[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2354140]Tangent: Women spend their money on the things they want, then come ask you for money for the things they need.[/QUOTE]Truest thing I have ever read about Asian girls.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2354140]Tangent: Women spend their money on the things they want, then come ask you for money for the things they need.[/QUOTE]Truest thing I have ever read about Asian girls.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2354604]It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.[/QUOTE]RK and GE mix in professional circles and come across well educated, highly westernised Filipinos. A good indicator on whether a girl can adapt to Western life is to see to what level her parents have been educated up to. If both parents speak fluent English and hold at least a bachelors degree, there is a good chance the girl will also be educated and will have a natural intellectual curiosity. That is, her conversation skills won't be limited to just talking about food and K-drama and she will see and appreciate the bigger picture.
The majority of mongers (me included) on this board won't have the opportunity to meet with the professional set, so their perception of people in this country will generally be low. The girls they deal with are usually pea-brained nincompoops who are tied to their families back in the provinces. Generally we don't care as long as they have big tits (D-Cups), their pussies don't smell (Sammon), they don't ask for money (Mr E.) and they are kind and affectionate (DG).
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2354604]It occurs to me that you run in the circles of expats who are in relationships with better-educated Filipinas. As I recall, your significant other has been professionally trained. Perhaps university study, especially when it is encouraged by the family, exposes the person to more cosmopolitan values and develops a sense of self-sufficiency that allows him or her to shed some of the yoke of traditional family obligations. I know you've also observed rural Philippine cultures in which subsistence is more hand-to-mouth, and people understand their survival as guided by fate rather than self-sufficiency. In those settings, the obligations of utang na loob persist. I suspect most of the short-visit warriors in this forum are exposed primarily to women from poorer backgrounds who are bound by more traditional values about family obligations.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're correct, and your conclusions are accurate. What's not mentioned however, or at least not typically mentioned on these pages, is the relative ease of meeting reasonably well-educated, bright, middle class women. I have been asked, as has, I'm sure RK, by many women in the latter class, whether I know of any "nice" Westerners to whom I might be able to introduce them. Leaving the subsistence-fed bargirl culture and aiming higher is not difficult for those who may choose to do so.
I have no problem with "point and click" encounters, and have enjoyed more than my fair share of them over the decades. My suggestion pertains only to those who are looking for a bit more than casual sex and who might value decent companionship and conversation in addition to sex.
GE.
You are all correct. I am looking for causal encounters with inexperienced 19-21 year olds. I love to open them up to a sexual awakening. Not that I am a great lover. Just the fact that they haven't been with a few others than a few slam bam quickie Filipino boys makes me a great lover, at the moment.
Most girls are real shy and I love it when they can't control it any longer and start breathing heavily and with soft moans along with bitting their lip.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2354641]What's not mentioned however, or at least not typically mentioned on these pages, is the relative ease of meeting reasonably well-educated, bright, middle class women. My suggestion pertains only to those who are looking for a bit more than casual sex and who might value decent companionship and conversation in addition to sex.[/QUOTE]Exactly. My chick that is a university dean, I met on Tinder. Her oldest sister has her own OB/GYN practice. Her brother is in law school. Her other sister works at the UN in New York.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2354663]Exactly. My chick that is a university dean, I met on Tinder. Her oldest sister has her own OB/GYN practice. Her brother is in law school. Her other sister works at the UN in New York.[/QUOTE]My squeeze's cousin is President of a provincial university in Bicol and claims two of her sisters were very close to Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Douchewitz, and Prince Andrew when they (the girls) were in their teens. Is that sort of the same thing?
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2354612]RK and GE mix in professional circles and come across well educated, highly westernised Filipinos. A good indicator on whether a girl can adapt to Western life is to see to what level her parents have been educated up to. If both parents speak fluent English and hold at least a bachelors degree, there is a good chance the girl will also be educated and will have a natural intellectual curiosity. That is, her conversation skills won't be limited to just talking about food and K-drama and she will see and appreciate the bigger picture.
The majority of mongers (me included) on this board won't have the opportunity to meet with the professional set, so their perception of people in this country will generally be low. The girls they deal with are usually pea-brained nincompoops who are tied to their families back in the provinces. Generally we don't care as long as they have big tits (D-Cups), their pussies don't smell (Sammon), they don't ask for money (Mr E.) and they are kind and affectionate (DG).[/QUOTE]LOL! I have met dated educated Pinays, too. Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.
[QUOTE=DCups;2354782]LOL! I have met dated educated Pinays, too. Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Some of our well-informed expats have suggested that there's a lot of variation in the quality of universities in the Philippines, but to some extent there is variability in the quality of programs in the states as well. I believe many schools in the Philippines do not have accreditation for their programs, but there's evidence that some programs in the states, especially for-profit online programs, are similarly unlikely to be nationally accredited. With some of those programs there's a question whether their principal goal is education or profit. For example, I read recently that the graduation rate for the University of Phoenix, a for-profit online university, is 15%. Yet the university apparently continues to thrive.
Three years? Given the considerable variation in quality in both countries, I'm wondering what evidence would support that sort of precise claim. Given your professional background, I'm guessing you might have access to that kind of evidence. Please share what you know.
In preparation for the post that's going to arrive soon that claims this discussion is irrelevant to a forum about fucking Filipinas, let me suggest that it is a useful dialogue about the nature of the pool of Filipinas who are available to fuck.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2354699]My squeeze's cousin is President of a provincial university in Bicol and claims two of her sisters were very close to Jeffrey Epstein, Alan Douchewitz, and Prince Andrew when they (the girls) were in their teens. Is that sort of the same thing?[/QUOTE]Sorry I can't compete. The last chick I fucked in the Philippines was a poorly educated prostitute originally from Samar. She was one of six kids in her family. Her aim in life was to earn enough money from opening her legs to own a sari sari store back in her province. Her sister was a not a college dean and her brother was not a UN bureaucrat, but she was clever enough to know that her relatives would buy rice on credit, never having to pay her back and thus would send her broke. I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2355037]I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.[/QUOTE]It's amazing how the girls put their intelligence to work in different areas.
I remember being in a Pattaya with a girl working well above her pay grade at a game of Connect 4 yet she could tell you where every vessel in the South Fleet was, their crew compliment and when they were returning for shore leave.
Remembering names is another area that they seem to excel.
Enjoy. G.
This is what happens when you say goodbye to a Filipina.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2355037]Sorry I can't compete. The last chick I fucked in the Philippines was a poorly educated prostitute originally from Samar. She was one of six kids in her family. Her aim in life was to earn enough money from opening her legs to own a sari sari store back in her province. Her sister was a not a college dean and her brother was not a UN bureaucrat, but she was clever enough to know that her relatives would buy rice on credit, never having to pay her back and thus would send her broke. I think coming up with that information required her pea sized brain to work at full capacity. But she was a good root, had good customer skills and didn't put me under any stress.[/QUOTE]No need to compete. Your story is probably the prevailing pattern, and what a great experience it is when they turn out to be a good root. Your story has a solid ring of truth; mine was, I am sorry to say, a total fabrication: a response to the story of another forum member who often posts stories from the loftiest of social circles in the Philippines, Thailand, and Latin America.
But, BTW, Jeffrey Epstein is a guy recently incarcerated for fucking and trafficking dozens of under-age girls. The Miami Herald recently ran an extensive investigative series on him, having drawn some of their information from women who had been trafficked during their teen years. Some of the women also allege having been with such upstanding men as Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump. My squeeze, her sisters, and her cousin probably have no idea who Epstein, Dershowitz and Prince Andrew are. But I do like your story.
[QUOTE=DCups;2354782]Just be aware their education system is probably three years behind ours E. G, a college graduate in PI is probably freshman equivalent in USA. Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2354920]
Three years? Given the considerable variation in quality in both countries, I'm wondering what evidence would support that sort of precise claim. Given your professional background, I'm guessing you might have access to that kind of evidence. Please share what you know.[/QUOTE]At DCups. With all due respect, I note you used "probably" twice in your sentence reproduced above but, like Soapy, I'd like to know how you arrived at that. I would certainly challenge that rather "supremacist" statement about US institutions as compared to Philippines higher education institutions (HEIs).
In my other life as an employer of graduates from various international institutions I can definitely say that the best graduates from many Philippines HEIs are at least equivalent to and often way more competent than other graduates from elsewhere. Three years is definitely a major overreach.
The bottom of the class in the USA, Australia and Philippines would be bottom of the class in any country, and unfortunately, most ST mongers use these poor lost souls as their benchmark because they frequently outnumber the so-called smarter ones in bars and on-line forums (I am using the word "smarter" here as defined by academic success).
This is MHO of course.
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In my other life as an employer of graduates from various international institutions I can definitely say that the best graduates from many Philippines HEIs are at least equivalent to and often way more competent than other graduates from elsewhere. Three years is definitely a major overreach.
[/QUOTE]RK, you've been telling us for a while now just how brilliant graduates from Philippines HEIs are. That being the case, why are they so under represented in senior management ranks of top companies in the US, Canada and Australia? There's two million of them in the States and nearly one million in Canada, yet, none rise to the top in corporate? Don't you think that says something about the quality of their education or their own intelligence and competency?
The ones I've seen in Australia are just junior management accountants, mid-level civil design engineers or just average IT dudes. None of them have any drive or motivation. It seems like they exhausted their quota of motivation and energy just by getting to Australia and now have no desire to go beyond that. All have degrees and qualifications a mile long from reputable universities in the Philippines I've never heard of.
I compare that with Indian graduates abroad. Many of them seem to rise quite quickly to the top of Fortune 500's, like Nadella, Pichai, Nooyi, Jain, Banga, Narayen et al.
I'm with D-Cups on this, but I will say their education standard is 5 years beyond their western counterparts. They never seem to lose that childish behaviour either, no matter how old they get. Their drive for success and propensity for hard work declines rapidly once they reach a mediocre level.
[QUOTE=SoapySmith;2355080]
But, BTW, Jeffrey Epstein is a guy recently incarcerated for fucking and trafficking dozens of under-age girls. The Miami Herald recently ran an extensive investigative series on him, having drawn some of their information from women who had been trafficked during their teen years. Some of the women also allege having been with such upstanding men as Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump. My squeeze, her sisters, and her cousin probably have no idea who Epstein, Dershowitz and Prince Andrew are. But I do like your story.[/QUOTE]LOL. The Clintons nearly added Epstein to their body count last week. What's the bet that he won't make it to the trial? Trump banned him from Mar o Lago 12 years ago.