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[QUOTE=JustTK;2752870]Don't you accept that some younger guys simply decided to opt out of the norm, the gender role that society places on us, and start paying for sex bcos it suited their values better? That's exactly what I did. I welcome you to sit me in a psycholgisits chair and try to confirm if I am telling the truth.[/QUOTE]I see you young guys too. Mostly scrawny nerds who can't compete for normal women in the first world.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2752871]I see you young guys too. Mostly scrawny nerds who can't compete for normal women in the first world.[/QUOTE]Various suggestions have been made of late for splitting this thread into separate forums. How about:
--One for sharing useful information and instructive or entertaining experiences in Paisa Pussyland;.
--and one (lets call it Ego-Tripping in Medellin) for making smug, snarky, judgmental comments about other Board Members.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2752841]You're double my age but I hope I don't become bitter like you when I can only get it up once a day.
I live in Colombia 6 months out of the year, and trust me, the girls who you spend just "110 k" for some baileys think you're a fool, and they talk about it after they pay 5 k for their own club Colombia when they're fucking their barrio boyfriend for free.
Trust me on this one dude.
And jjbee, to answer your question, yes, the daily wage matters, that's why girls 18-30 would rather make $150 on only fans or the streetwalker around college town makes 80-$100 in an hour instead of working $10 an hour in retail.
Paying any girl more than 100 k to fuck in Colombia is insanity. Just like paying any girl over $200 to fuck in the usa is insanity. Both double the daily wages.
I thought as you age you get wiser? A lot of old dudes here have no chill, no objectivity, and seem set in their ways.
That's why they're always the creepy ones in the flights and immigration lines, out of shape, balding / grey, but think they're badass because they fly to the third world and fuck some universitaria for 12 $ usd. With that creepy smile on their face as they're waiting to show their passports to the immigration officers.
And then you spend your life on these forums acting as some kind of authority, LOL. Congrats, great life.
And no offense to surfer, you're a legend.[/QUOTE]Jonny started it don't blame me for responding.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2752867]I doubt that many will be. Only the ones that have sponsors, and very small minority of others. Most spectators will be middle class Colombians and up. IMO.
By Top Tier. I assume you mean high price? Then your comment makes perfect sense. However, I met a absolutely georgeous webcam model in Walking Street 3 days ago. She was a little pricey but I overlooked that bcos she was so sexy - 40 k.[/QUOTE]Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.
You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.
And this is the point I make about different surroundings.
If you go to centro or use fb and pull girls from dirt poor neighborhoods you're going to see one thing.
Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.
I'm not here to judge anyones taste in women. As long as you're happy spending 40 mil or 4 million. It doesn't matter how one goes about their biz.
But it seems like the ones most stuck in their ways are the ones that think these girls shouldn't be paid etc etc. And meanwhile they are walking around with the newest iPhones and bags etc etc.
Higher price doesn't mean worst service.
And also when using the country's average income remember Colombia is a very very big country.
And while most parts are poor if you take only medellin and Bogota average income the number would probably be higher. I don't know exacts. But if you stay in poblado do you feel like you're in a third world country??
Bravo amigo. Well said.
[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2752841]You're double my age but I hope I don't become bitter like you when I can only get it up once a day.
I live in Colombia 6 months out of the year, and trust me, the girls who you spend just "110 k" for some baileys think you're a fool, and they talk about it after they pay 5 k for their own club Colombia when they're fucking their barrio boyfriend for free.
Trust me on this one dude.
And jjbee, to answer your question, yes, the daily wage matters, that's why girls 18-30 would rather make $150 on only fans or the streetwalker around college town makes 80-$100 in an hour instead of working $10 an hour in retail.
Paying any girl more than 100 k to fuck in Colombia is insanity. Just like paying any girl over $200 to fuck in the usa is insanity. Both double the daily wages.
I thought as you age you get wiser? A lot of old dudes here have no chill, no objectivity, and seem set in their ways.
That's why they're always the creepy ones in the flights and immigration lines, out of shape, balding / grey, but think they're badass because they fly to the third world and fuck some universitaria for 12 $ usd. With that creepy smile on their face as they're waiting to show their passports to the immigration officers.
And then you spend your life on these forums acting as some kind of authority, LOL. Congrats, great life.
And no offense to surfer, you're a legend.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2752862]What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.[/QUOTE]Completely agreed. Young guys who think their something special or gods gift to these women because they make more money compared to other Colombians. Hahahah.
But meanwhile they ain't shit here in the states.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2752880]Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.
You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.
[/QUOTE]Both fallacious.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2752880]
Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.
[/QUOTE]The only clear difference you can guarantee is the amount of money remaining in your bank account after the date.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2752880]
Higher price doesn't mean worst service.
[/QUOTE]Correct. On this we do agree. It simply means higher price. Nothing more, nothing less.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2752871]I see you young guys too. Mostly scrawny nerds who can't compete for normal women in the first world.[/QUOTE]I don't think you do. I didn't say I am young, I said I started young. I always could compete for women in the first world when I was younger. But I rejected it bcos I didn't want to play 'the game". I saw thru it all, how ridiculous it was. I didn't want a bitter and overweight wife, 2. 2 kids, a dog, an expensive car, and a mortgage, I refused to play that game anymore.
If you don't see that as a rational explanation, I pity you.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2752884]Both fallacious.
The only clear difference you can guarantee is the amount of money remaining in your bank account after the date.
Correct. On this we do agree. It simply means higher price. Nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]We have different views on what he consider attractive or hot.
But in MY eyes there's a clear difference from the average centro girl to the average high end girl.
And I'm sure centro has their diamonds but from my experiences it's like night and day.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2752888]I don't think you do. I didn't say I am young, I said I started young. I always could compete for women in the first world when I was younger. But I rejected it bcos I didn't want to play 'the game". I saw thru it all, how ridiculous it was. I didn't want a bitter and overweight wife, 2. 2 kids, a dog, an expensive car, and a mortgage, I refused to play that game anymore.
If you don't see that as a rational explanation, I pity you.[/QUOTE]I was responding to Johnny's out of the blue attack on old guys. Nothing to do with you unless the shoe fits. And don't pity me. I live a great life in San Diego CA USA and have 2 hot 22 year old sugar babies in Tijuana who like to spend the night with me for cheap. No condoms and I'm down there every week.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2752899] have 2 hot 22 year old sugar babies in Tijuana who like to spend the night with me for cheap. No condoms and I'm down there every week.[/QUOTE]How many Mexicans do they have, no condoms, on the other days of the week?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2752899]And don't pity me. I live a great life in San Diego CA USA and have 2 hot 22 year old sugar babies in Tijuana who like to spend the night with me for cheap.[/QUOTE]Then I pity you for not seeing the light until at least 50 years.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2752894]But in MY eyes there's a clear difference from the average centro girl to the average high end girl.
[/QUOTE]The only thing high or higher about your girls is the price. And where your mind is if you think it means anything else. Hehe.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2752880]Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.
You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.
And this is the point I make about different surroundings.
If you go to centro or use fb and pull girls from dirt poor neighborhoods you're going to see one thing.
Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.
I'm not here to judge anyones taste in women. As long as you're happy spending 40 mil or 4 million. It doesn't matter how one goes about their biz.
But it seems like the ones most stuck in their ways are the ones that think these girls shouldn't be paid etc etc. And meanwhile they are walking around with the newest iPhones and bags etc etc.
Higher price doesn't mean worst service.
And also when using the country's average income remember Colombia is a very very big country.
And while most parts are poor if you take only medellin and Bogota average income the number would probably be higher. I don't know exacts. But if you stay in poblado do you feel like you're in a third world country??[/QUOTE]I would like to have a link of a couple of those Instagram models you mentioned, I want to see the level we are talking about. Because I have over 400 contacts on Facebook and they are all Colombian girls and all from Medellin. I add them daily. Some are gorgeous, the whole package, big ass (some with implants) and fake tits, lips, all done. Now, that costs money, it's not that surgery is cheap.
I read the colleague paid 40 k but I doubt he paid for one of these girls, because they do sell their videos for 20 k and they make video calls for 40 k. I suppose they will ask more for a fuck. Since I didn't speak with any of these girls (yet), I would like to know how much they ask. And I am not talking about the average looking but the most beautifuls.
Between my contacts I even have a Colombian singer from Medellin. She posts a lot of stories on Facebook, and she must be famous because in her videos she has a lot of fans, mostly kids.
There is a girl in Brazil who has 2 millions followers on TikTok. When I was in Sao Paulo (she is from another city), I tried to contact her twice and she didn't bother to answer. I don't think she makes any money on TikTok, but I imagine there is a queue of people who want to fuck her. So I guess she ain't cheap.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2752894]We have different views on what he consider attractive or hot.
But in MY eyes there's a clear difference from the average centro girl to the average high end girl.
And I'm sure centro has their diamonds but from my experiences it's like night and day.[/QUOTE]It's doubtful that you've ever explored Centro based on what you've told us, as to the casas and strip clubs. You're stuck with the illusionary "high end" places like Gustos, Loutron, and La Isla, and maybe some Facebook. But these girls are all from the same handful of lower end barrios. Just ask them as most don't mind telling you. For your extra money you're sure to get more silicone overall but that's about it. There's plenty of great looking girls in the organized Centro venues if you take the time to explore, many of whom are fresh in from Venezuela.
P.S. If you want extra time, to chat and the like with a girl you have next to nothing in common with, or one that can prop up GFE fantasies you have going in your head, this can be had from girls who work in Centro casas and strip clubs. Just get their Whatapp and chat about an arrangement.