Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2938056]I have a question if you don't mind. You say that with Fiw fans you are never sure what you are going to get. So, I am just curious why you prefer it say maybe over the TF FLs or a go go lady or a massage lady or beer bar ladies in BKK. Don't say it's the price because in both instances in your post, you paid over 1000 Baht for a BJ and a massage and an inflated rate for a Fiw fans girl that you may or may not get BBFS with. Makes no sense. Do you like playing in the Thai pond for a thrill? Do you think these girls are better looking? Do you think the prices are lower really even after you paid these prices?

If I was you, I would check out T-Ded 99 as you will find it easy to get BBFS, the girls are hot and the prices are good. You can also see what you are getting in real life without photo shopped images.

Maybe I can see why you do it now? I bet it's because you just like the adventure and the thrill of Fiw Fans. Never knowing what you will actually get.

For me, I always get BBFS on Fiw Fans. Why? Because I negotiate for it in Thai language. This goes a long way. Even google translate is not the same as you speaking Thai in the eyes of the The girl. They just feel more comfortable with you when you speak Thai.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I have no doubt things would be immensely easier if I could really speak Thai, rather than just being able to fake it for 10 seconds. One fiwfans girl mentioned I could pay an extra 1000 while we were doing it, which I was ok with, but she said I could not CIP and I declined (I've had a vasectomy, so I don't need to worry about getting anyone pregnant anymore, though I of course understand anyone could say that and a girl does not have a reason to believe every random schmuck who says it). I've offered a tip to one or two others as we were doing it, but they both refused it. Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.

As to why fiwfans: the evening before I arrived at Nana plaza at what I thought would be a quite early time,11 pm, and went through the 4-5 bars recommended by someone here, without seeing anyone I thought was pretty. A bit later I did the same at Cowboy, with the same result.
Admittedly you are right in that I do feel some thrill in not knowing exactly who will open the door, but honestly I would much prefer it to be the girl in the photos than whatever thrill there is. Though, with more experience in reading the reviews I have gotten fewer bad surprises. This year they have all been decent looking (7 or up).

As for paying an inflated price for the fiwfans girl, I don't feel I did that, except the big dick charge which was a bit annoying, but fortunately I don't get that ofen (only once before, where the girl outright refused as I mentioned).

Neither for the massage/BJ. I don't think you will get a BJ for less than 1000 on the thong lo - nana stretch in a massage shop, at least not without having luck and trying hard, so not sure what you mean about that. That I could instead get up and go somewhere else and pay a similar price, or a bit more for FS? Yeah, I could, but it's nice to just lay down and have a massage for an hour or two, and finish with a BJ (or FS if she is good looking) there and then, rather than get up and go somewhere else.

1600 for 60 minutes with the fiwfans girl, + 300-400 for CIM, as is often listed. And if I add in the "big dick" surcharge from yesterdays girl (linly is her listed name, BTW), a total of 2300 for a 20 yo girl I'd rate as an 8, though normally it would be less than 2000, as I'm not exactly hung like John Holmes.

On the other hand, I simply do not see anyone looking anything close to that in nana or soi cowboy. Maybe they are there, somewhere, but there is a limit to the glasses of orange juice I can drink in each bar while looking for her. And even after spending an hour or two doing that, if I can find her, I'd have to pay 1000 + 3000 to take her out. I much prefer to arrange things so that I bts / mrt out somewhere and bang a fiwfans girl while on the way to / from something else in the daytime.

T-Ded 99 sounds interesting and possibly I'll check it out on a weekend.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938149]
T-Ded 99 sounds interesting and possibly I'll check it out on a weekend.[/QUOTE]Please report back after you do.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2938070]Does T-Ded 99 have ST rooms on-site?[/QUOTE]No, but the owner of the bar owns a hotel opposite and when you pay the 2500 it includes the room in that hotel.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2938070]Does T-Ded 99 have ST rooms on-site?[/QUOTE]No, opposite is a hotel, price included. Just scroll 1 page back. It is all written here.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2938185]No, but the owner of the bar owns a hotel opposite and when you pay the 2500 it includes the room in that hotel.[/QUOTE]Is there a reason I would want to go to this place and pay 2500? Just because it's cheaper than Nana. But still more expensive than Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938149] Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.[/QUOTE]I build a rapport with the ladies by speaking Thai. I call them in line or direct on the phone. I tell the booker I will give them a tip if they let me speak to the lady. Some ladies don't have an admin so then it makes things even easier. Many admins know me in Fiw Fans. Then I do the following:

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2937987]Now for me, I will just get this out of the way now so we never need to think about it again. I am an over-payer. Yes, thats right. When I see a girl I like, I make an offer she cant refuse for the services I want, end of story. Other girls know this about me and often will even go with me without even discussing price or services. Why ? Because they know I will take care of them, but only if they give me what I want with no drama. It has worked for me for the last 25 years in Asia. This ensures me of a great night. This no nonsense style of mongering in Pattaya and Bangkok has served me well.[/QUOTE]I practice this is all the mongering I do in Asia.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938149]Yes, I have no doubt things would be immensely easier if I could really speak Thai, rather than just being able to fake it for 10 seconds. One fiwfans girl mentioned I could pay an extra 1000 while we were doing it, which I was ok with, but she said I could not CIP and I declined (I've had a vasectomy, so I don't need to worry about getting anyone pregnant anymore, though I of course understand anyone could say that and a girl does not have a reason to believe every random schmuck who says it). I've offered a tip to one or two others as we were doing it, but they both refused it. Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.

As to why fiwfans: the evening before I arrived at Nana plaza at what I thought would be a quite early time,11 pm, and went through the 4-5 bars recommended by someone here, without seeing anyone I thought was pretty. A bit later I did the same at Cowboy, with the same result.
Admittedly you are right in that I do feel some thrill in not knowing exactly who will open the door, but honestly I would much prefer it to be the girl in the photos than whatever thrill there is. Though, with more experience in reading the reviews I have gotten fewer bad surprises. This year they have all been decent looking (7 or up).

As for paying an inflated price for the fiwfans girl, I don't feel I did that, except the big dick charge which was a bit annoying, but fortunately I don't get that ofen (only once before, where the girl outright refused as I mentioned).

Neither for the massage/BJ. I don't think you will get a BJ for less than 1000 on the thong lo - nana stretch in a massage shop, at least not without having luck and trying hard, so not sure what you mean about that. That I could instead get up and go somewhere else and pay a similar price, or a bit more for FS? Yeah, I could, but it's nice to just lay down and have a massage for an hour or two, and finish with a BJ (or FS if she is good looking) there and then, rather than get up and go somewhere else.

1600 for 60 minutes with the fiwfans girl, + 300-400 for CIM, as is often listed. And if I add in the "big dick" surcharge from yesterdays girl (linly is her listed name, BTW), a total of 2300 for a 20 yo girl I'd rate as an 8, though normally it would be less than 2000, as I'm not exactly hung like John Holmes.

On the other hand, I simply do not see anyone looking anything close to that in nana or soi cowboy. Maybe they are there, somewhere, but there is a limit to the glasses of orange juice I can drink in each bar while looking for her. And even after spending an hour or two doing that, if I can find her, I'd have to pay 1000 + 3000 to take her out. I much prefer to arrange things so that I bts / mrt out somewhere and bang a fiwfans girl while on the way to / from something else in the daytime.

T-Ded 99 sounds interesting and possibly I'll check it out on a weekend.[/QUOTE]11 pm Nana Plaza only Dregs of Nana are left. Get your aZZ in at 930 pm.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2938196]I build a rapport with the ladies by speaking Thai. I call them in line or direct on the phone. I tell the booker I will give them a tip if they let me speak to the lady. Some ladies don't have an admin so then it makes things even easier. Many admins know me in Fiw Fans. Then I do the following:

I practice this is all the mongering I do in Asia.[/QUOTE]Thank for the honest answer, but sorry: you say I paid an inflated price for the fiwfans girl (1600 + 300 + 400), but then say your own modus operandi is to overpay, and you make it sound like you overpay greatly? Seems slightly contradictory.

I guess you have some charm and other things you are able to convey over the phone (did you work in sales or something similar?), so you make talking beforehand work to your benefit. It's an interesting approach that I had not even thought of, but in any case the opposite is sadly the case for me: have I met a non-p4p girl online or outside, hard earned experience has taught me that the last thing *I* should do is call her before I've banged her. If anything, my babble on the phone will kill any desire they had to meet me / meet me again. Of course, I don't speak Thai well enough to converse on the phone anyway, so the point is moot here.

I BTW saw another fiwfan girl in the afternoon today. Inspired by your success I broached the topic of fucking her without condom. She first told me I could fuck her without condom for a tip of 5 thousand, though it was obvious she didn't believe I was going to pay that and she was laughing herself when she said it. I responded with 1000. She said for 2000 ok. Had she been considerably prettier (a "solid" 21-22 year old 6, I'd say she was) I might have considered it, even though it would have more than doubled the total price, but at that time it did not seem worth it, even though my dick was partly inside her already. Asked her again after she seemingly orgasmed while I was banging her with a condom, but still only for 2,000 extra. Do I understand you correctly in that you would have gladly paid that? No disrespect intended if so. We all have our money and spend it how we best see fit.

Something I've not tried much of is seeing if visiting the same fiwfans girl again a few times will improve service to the point of bareback. I think there are only two fiwfans girl I've met more than once. With the first one (one year ago), service was worse the second time. With the second one (some weeks ago) service was about the same, though she had developed a tiny bit of an "ok, this guy likes me, that's why he's back, so I don't need to make as big of an effort this time" attitude. Not much, but I could sense it.

There are however three-four other girls I've recently had good experience with, two of which are somewhat hot. One yesterday, another one a week ago, and one or two older than that. I prefer to see new girls, but might try and go back to some of these for a second or even third serving. At that time this Thailand trip will be ending for me though, so that will also be somewhat of a moot point. Will be mainly out of curiosity I guess.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938285]Thank for the honest answer, but sorry: you say I paid an inflated price for the fiwfans girl (1600 + 300 + 400), but then say your own modus operandi is to overpay, and you make it sound like you overpay greatly? Seems slightly contradictory. [/QUOTE]I said that because I thought you were using Fiw Fans because it was cheaper. So, I didn't understand that concept if you ended up paying more anyways plus paying too much for a BJ when FS is not too much more depending on where you go.

Speaking Thai goes a long way and that's all I think that needs to be said.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938036]In the early afternoon I ventured out to Sutthisan to try a (for me) new fiwfan girl. * * * Service was good, and she did not (like most other fiwfans girls) interrupt the romance by informing me of the extra surcharge for CIM beforehand. Some more joking / GFE from her side, and I left a happy camper. * * * Worked out a bit and then had a massage next to Marriott on Sukhumvit 22, where I was going to have dinner. * * * Then overate as usual at Marriot's Goji restaurant buffet (booked via eatigo for a discount), before booking a grab motorbike back to my airbnb.[/QUOTE]Excellent report. Informative and well written. Kudos for taking the time to post.

[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;2938223]11 pm Nana Plaza only Dregs of Nana are left. Get your aZZ in at 930 pm.[/QUOTE]That is the best time.

[QUOTE=Rollox;2936473]Is this the Nut you are referring to?[/QUOTE]If that is indeed her, someone has applied some very heavy whitening filter to her, plus possibly other things, in this photo. I saw her some hours ago and can't really recognize her from this photo.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2938469]If that is indeed her, someone has applied some very heavy whitening filter to her, plus possibly other things, in this photo. I saw her some hours ago and can't really recognize her from this photo.[/QUOTE]It's def her but I agree heavily filtered. Massive skin whitening because she's a dark girl. I guess that's the Asian aesthetic but not mine at all. While she looks good in the photo I think she's much prettier in person.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2938508]It's def her but I agree heavily filtered. Massive skin whitening because she's a dark girl. I guess that's the Asian aesthetic but not mine at all. While she looks good in the photo I think she's much prettier in person.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, and will add that while I went with Nut as she really looks, I'd probably not go with her if she looked like in the photo. Not sure what's wrong with that photo, but more than just whitening has been applied. Whoever created it should take some lessons from the fiwfans guys on how to make girl look more beautiful, rather than more ugly.

[QUOTE=Bunky;2938352]Excellent report. Informative and well written. Kudos for taking the time to post.[/QUOTE]Thank you Bunky. I have enjoyed many posts from you during the years, so I'm happy to hear that from you.