Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464379]I once ate some fish soup at one of the restaurants and couldn't leave bed for 2 weeks and was hospitalized for 2 weeks once I got back to the states. Go right ahead and drink the water from the sink if you are brave. I have been in Medellin for 4 months and somehow I have managed to withdraw a total of $10,000 usd how do I know, the banking system remitly showed me how much money I have withdrew and reminded me that if I withdraw another $8,000 usd within 60 days I will be barred from withdrawing money until my 180 days are up. I won't even go into how much my mortgage in the US is, but how in the hell can you be blooming economy when you can't withdraw $18,000 usd in 6 months?

My rent is cheap, food is cheap, nearly everything is cheap here except new cars and new bikes over 400 CC. My dental surgery costed me $14,000 usd. I even showed the people at the local bank and I showed remitly. But I guess it is a law that you cannot withdraw more than $18,000 usd in 180 days. This blew my mind, because one of main reasons that I was withdrawing large amounts of cash was because me and the dentist had a deal that if I paid him in Colombian cash the amount was only $38,000,000 pesos. But if I paid him in american cash the amount would be $14,500 usd. Since I could cleary see that the dollar had become strong, I was removing pesos to pay the doctor at a discounted rate of about $10,200 usd. Now when I enter a certain bank in Colombia, they sit me down and ask me 2 million questions, about why would I like to remove so many pesos, and I am still denied the chance to obtain cash pesos.[/QUOTE]Wow, what the actual fuck did I just read. Have you been to India, Cambodia, Egypt or Kenya?

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2464411]Pollo Negro,

You may be the master at having all the finest women from El Centro over at a low price, including the one with the external hemorrhoid (she sounded lovely), but $14 k USD for dental surgery, in Colombia? Your dentist took you for a ride.[/QUOTE]Finest women? I still haven't seen one I would have over for free.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464379]... My rent is cheap, food is cheap, nearly everything is cheap here except new cars and new bikes over 400 CC. My dental surgery costed me $14,000 usd. I even showed the people at the local bank and I showed remitly. But I guess it is a law that you cannot withdraw more than $18,000 usd in 180 days. ...[/QUOTE]I think the limit is set by the transfer company. On Xoom, the limit in tier one is $9,999 in 180 days. In tier two, it is $30,000 in 180 days. In XE's FAQ, they say you can send up to $500,000. I haven't looked at XE in more detail because you have to set up an account to see the details. At RIA, it says the maximum amount is $7,999 in 30 days. It appears there is a wide range of maximum amounts.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464379]My rent is cheap, food is cheap, nearly everything is cheap here except new cars and new bikes over 400 CC. My dental surgery costed me $14,000 usd. I even showed the people at the local bank and I showed remitly. But I guess it is a law that you cannot withdraw more than $18,000 usd in 180 days. This blew my mind, because one of main reasons that I was withdrawing large amounts of cash was because me and the dentist had a deal that if I paid him in Colombian cash the amount was only $38,000,000 pesos. But if I paid him in american cash the amount would be $14,500 usd. Since I could cleary see that the dollar had become strong, I was removing pesos to pay the doctor at a discounted rate of about $10,200 usd. Now when I enter a certain bank in Colombia, they sit me down and ask me 2 million questions, about why would I like to remove so many pesos, and I am still denied the chance to obtain cash pesos.[/QUOTE]Interesting. PN, if you used a credit card, you would not have gotten the discount but would not have had to deal with the bank nazis, right? Then there is the bitcoin option. Have you tried that?

When I was in Mexico and the rate was 25 pesos to the dollar, I could barely get 20. I sent myself money via Western Union and got 23 pesos to the dollar. Have you ever tried doing that?

Unless you are buying all food from sidewalk vendors I don't see what prevents anyone using a credit card to eliminate the need for that amount of cash transfers. There are plenty of card issuers that don't charge foreign transaction fees and all but a very few match the published exchange rates. Once I was in the infamous La Castellana prepago building in Laureles and realized I didn't have enough cash for a session. After they offered the option to pay by credit card I was very surprised they only asked for an additional 5 K pesos to cover the transaction fee on top of the 60 K session. The USD total was less than $18. Of course, that is not a good way to go for guys who are married or are otherwise subject to credit card statement review because the charge appeared as "Eros Spa". LOL!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2464548]Interesting. PN, if you used a credit card, you would not have gotten the discount but would not have had to deal with the bank nazis, right? Then there is the bitcoin option. Have you tried that?

When I was in Mexico and the rate was 25 pesos to the dollar, I could barely get 20. I sent myself money via Western Union and got 23 pesos to the dollar. Have you ever tried doing that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2464411]Pollo Negro,

You may be the master at having all the finest women from El Centro over at a low price, including the one with the external hemorrhoid (she sounded lovely), but $14 k USD for dental surgery, in Colombia? Your dentist took you for a ride.[/QUOTE]Was $75,000 k. Have you ever priced dental implants? Well I had a complete reconstruction, very satisfied with the work that my dentist provided. I have not one complaint, and honestly I have yet to earn less than $20,000 k usd since arriving in Medellin, in great part due to my dental surgery!

Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2464536]Finest women? I still haven't seen one I would have over for free.[/QUOTE]Meaning we have different taste, I walk my own dog, we don't have pet sitters like you. Long story short, different strokes for different folks! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2464411]Pollo Negro,

You may be the master at having all the finest women from El Centro over at a low price, including the one with the external hemorrhoid (she sounded lovely), but $14 k USD for dental surgery, in Colombia? Your dentist took you for a ride.[/QUOTE]What was the nature of his dental surgery?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2464548]Interesting. PN, if you used a credit card, you would not have gotten the discount but would not have had to deal with the bank nazis, right? Then there is the bitcoin option. Have you tried that?

When I was in Mexico and the rate was 25 pesos to the dollar, I could barely get 20. I sent myself money via Western Union and got 23 pesos to the dollar. Have you ever tried doing that?[/QUOTE]A few times last year & they barred me from sending money to myself. Others can send me money, but western union will not allow me to send money to myself. I am actually trying to find a way to find another bankthat will allow me to remove some cash. Maybe its me but I'm finding it strange to remove more than $2-$3 million pesos at any given time during this quarantine. But I still have plenty of pesos on hand. Just always like to have a backup just in case! Pollo negro is out!

You can always tell when something is personal, individuals will make it known in the most outrageous way.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2464536]Finest women? I still haven't seen one I would have over for free.[/QUOTE]I have never asked you to help me decide on the chica I was going to bang, and never have I spoke on the chica's that you have banged. What I will tell you is this, many of the same chica's that you did bang and speak so highly of, are banging me for a fraction of the fee. But you wouldn't believe that now would you? You paid them so well they would never bang me near centro for a $125,000 cop? Not only would I not say that I would not bang any of the chics that you banged, I will honestly say, that I would never pay them as much as you paid them. Pollo negro is out!

Something that I have yet to understand, if you talk about money on this board then you're broke. If you pay $14 Kusd for dental surgery, then you were took for a ride, but if you are paying $1500.00 in Poblado then you are wise beyond your means. Some of have to make up your mind because a lot of your analogies are extremely confusing to me.

Every dental implant commercial in America tell you straight up, "We have financing available!" meaning that surgery isn't cheap. So if I had to spend $14 Kusd to fix my teeth, I feel like it was a steal after obtaining American quotes. I can never understand when someone says if you pay $500,000 cop for sex if you enjoyed it then it was worth it, but if someone pays a certain amount for surgery then he or she was taken for a ride. All I'm asking is to find me a Dentist in the USA that will do a complete restoration of your teeth with veneers and implants with a 18 year guarantee for $14 k or less then I will reconsider. Then again, maybe some of us do not know the cost of having dental surgery or a perfect smile.

Anyways, let me get up, get out and bang something! I am still in love with Medellin. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2464568]What was the nature of his dental surgery?[/QUOTE]I have seen PN new mouth, one look and you would understand the perfect smile, literally the perfect smile, he looks like a movie actor now, hehehehe.

Back in California I have paid $2,000 USD for one tooth! I need some work done and plan on the end of this year.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2464548]Interesting. PN, if you used a credit card, you would not have gotten the discount but would not have had to deal with the bank nazis, right? Then there is the bitcoin option. Have you tried that?

When I was in Mexico and the rate was 25 pesos to the dollar, I could barely get 20. I sent myself money via Western Union and got 23 pesos to the dollar. Have you ever tried doing that?[/QUOTE]There must be a catch and no he did not want to use the credit cards, but he always gave me receipts for payments which I can use on my taxes back in America. Because I am working while I am here and I have receipts for everything, I will write all of this off on my taxes. Trust me there are ways to recoup all that I am spending while I am here. Pollo Negro is out!!

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2464546]I think the limit is set by the transfer company. On Xoom, the limit in tier one is $9,999 in 180 days. In tier two, it is $30,000 in 180 days. In XE's FAQ, they say you can send up to $500,000. I haven't looked at XE in more detail because you have to set up an account to see the details. At RIA, it says the maximum amount is $7,999 in 30 days. It appears there is a wide range of maximum amounts.[/QUOTE]I can't believe what I have been reading here about people's money woe's getting money into the Country. The easiest way to get money into the Country that I am aware of is to use your ATM cards. At least that is what I have done in the past and have been able to pull upwards of $ 1,500 a day out between two cards.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2464441]I have been into just about every hotel and motel around centro at some time or another. My go-to place in centro is Palmetto hotel but today just wanted a relatively quick and easy one hour with a chica so why not try the Premier Plaza Suites (WTF I met my gal no father than 20 meters away so very convenient).

I know some of you have tried it and must say that I was quite impressed with the cleanliness and price.

Paid 17 mil and after a very thorough check in process, review of my passport, photos taken of it, registered all my info in the hotel register journal, they take this very serious, got into our room and had a fully operational TV, radio, bathroom with HOT water in the shower, room had a Jacuzzi but was not interested this visit. All told I was impressed given the dive hotels at the back side of the Vera.

Plenty of pussy out today even given a Monday. My girl a 23 yo paisa took my deep pounding like a champ, she must weight 85 pounds soaking wet and will repeat with her on a future date.

Here are the business cards.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I can't believe your just discovering this place. It's my favorite Hotel in the Veracruz area, and I have spent months there. What's nice is the outdoor balcony in front directly over ground zero. I have sat on that balcony, seen a prospect I'm interested in directly below, and have them join me on the balcony. It's kind of like a fishing pier, and if your an obvious gringo sitting up there, there will be schools of hookers giving you the google eye 12 feet below you wanting to be reeled in!

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2464411]Pollo Negro,

You may be the master at having all the finest women from El Centro over at a low price, including the one with the external hemorrhoid (she sounded lovely), but $14 k USD for dental surgery, in Colombia? Your dentist took you for a ride.[/QUOTE]I was thinking along the same lines, but I don't want to jump to conclusions. I don't know the extent of all he had done.

Yesterday one of mine had 2 wisdom teeth removed for 220 k and will later get the other 2 removed for 240 k. Of course today she looks like a very cute chipmunk.

[URL]https://youtu.be/SQwic0ObBxc[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2464555]One of the reasons nobody believed Covid was real was that it devolved into the typical partisan war. In fact, one writer called it the Trump virus. So this virus, which came from China and whom Biden thinks is not a threat BTW, was divided into people who care about it and people who do not.

Covid is VERY fucking real, and HCQ was studied for Corona Viruses treatment and found to be an effective treatment for said viruses way before Trump got into office. Now of course, HCQ, which is a cheap drug, is the most dangerous drug on the planet. In reality, it has been so safe that it has been around for 70 years and used for prophyaxis for Malaria and to prevent exacerbations of people having Lupus.

I made fun of someone who blamed Trump for his not being able to get laid in Colombia. Now TDS has reached that point again, having sex with hooker one time in Colombia, a literal one in a million chance of getting Covid, is near certain death as is using an incredibly safe drug..[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Hydroxy does more harm than good with respect to Covid.

Trump screwed this all up--just look at America compared to the rest of the world.

Medellin is smart for locking down.

Even the leaders of Sweden adit they screwed up.

Its incredible to read s much mis-information from people who are convinced they are right and smart. Its why we are all in this mess.

But, what do I know: I've only been studying and getting paid to study disease and demography around the globe for 30+ years.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2464582]I wasn't asking for advice about the efficacy of the drug. I merely wished to know if Hydroxychloroquine is available over the counter in Medellin. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes Lou, it is legally available. The hard part may be finding it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2464641]Yes Lou, it is legally available. The hard part may be finding it.[/QUOTE]OK. I understand.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464567]Meaning we have different taste, I walk my own dog, we don't have pet sitters like you. Long story short, different strokes for different folks! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE] If I am in Colombia, how am I going to walk my dog? Obviously I do that when I am here.

BTW, I love the Arecibo area.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464586]You can always tell when something is personal, individuals will make it known in the most outrageous way.

I have never asked you to help me decide on the chica I was going to bang, and never have I spoke on the chica's that you have banged. What I will tell you is this, many of the same chica's that you did bang and speak so highly of, are banging me for a fraction of the fee. But you wouldn't believe that now would you? You paid them so well they would never bang me near centro for a $125,000 cop? Not only would I not say that I would not bang any of the chics that you banged, I will honestly say, that I would never pay them as much as you paid them. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]I would certainly believe you if you paid half but you talk a huge game that you're getting dimes for 50 k, so far the pics you post suggest otherwise.

The reality is that I want what I want when I want it and if I have to pay 250 k for a stunner for the night, the $30 difference for an entire night of fun is meaningless. I don't like waiting a week until the chick is hungry, I want her to come over now. I spent less in Medellin having chicas over everyday than I do in PR doing nothing. I actually couldn't believe how inexpensive of a city it is. If you're making $1500 a day, I don't know why you're so concerned over the price. Get the best.

Suegmf, you know this is an old and unending subject. Yes, ATMs are a very good combination of convenience and competitive exchange rate. For reasons I may never understand, it is one of the things like accepting the 18 year old provider legal limit that guys go to all sorts of lengths to make more complicated than necessary. In any case it's wise to have more than one way to access cash and it's wise to know how much cash you can access per business day. Credit cards can be helpful also.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2464614]I can't believe what I have been reading here about people's money woe's getting money into the Country. The easiest way to get money into the Country that I am aware of is to use your ATM cards. At least that is what I have done in the past and have been able to pull upwards of $ 1,500 a day out between two cards.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2464673]I would certainly believe you if you paid half but you talk a huge game that you're getting dimes for 50 k, so far the pics you post suggest otherwise.

The reality is that I want what I want when I want it and if I have to pay 250 k for a stunner for the night, the $30 difference for an entire night of fun is meaningless. I don't like waiting a week until the chick is hungry, I want her to come over now. I spent less in Medellin having chicas over everyday than I do in PR doing nothing. I actually couldn't believe how inexpensive of a city it is. If you're making $1500 a day, I don't know why you're so concerned over the price. Get the best.[/QUOTE]The girls you were banging were the best in Medellin? The arrogance of the over confident judgmental Poblado secluded monger. Don't make me laugh! Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2464597]I have seen PN new mouth, one look and you would understand the perfect smile, literally the perfect smile, he looks like a movie actor now, hehehehe.

Back in California I have paid $2,000 USD for one tooth! I need some work done and plan on the end of this year.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]BMs act like they are giving away free dental services in the US. Try a root canal with a crown and post and see don't that run you about $2800 usd if you don't have insurance. Pollo Negro is out!

Any new casa openings? Thinking about doing a casa run tomorrow.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2464597]I have seen PN new mouth, one look and you would understand the perfect smile, literally the perfect smile, he looks like a movie actor now, hehehehe.

Back in California I have paid $2,000 USD for one tooth! I need some work done and plan on the end of this year.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]$ 14,000 for a new smile is a lot of money in Colombia, you can buy an apartment for that.

However, if he had some gold teeth put in and perhaps some diamonds like Kayne West, than that may explain things, and he may have gotten a hell of a deal.

[QUOTE=Lou32;2464318]I've purchased blood pressure meds OTC. Have you tried to buy Hydroxychloroquine OTC?[/QUOTE]Today out walking around I made a few small detours.

I stopped by a big drug store and the answer: NO.

I stopped by a small drug store and the answer: YES.

For a finders fee or tip I am sure most small drug stores will help you. If they carry it.

Wow this place is hopping! Barranquilla had a lock down Saturday, Sunday, and Monday for 2 weeks in a row. The next weekend I think was also locked down. Not sure because moved to a more residential area with people out and Monday was a holiday so everything closed and the past weekend I was not there. Appears as if Medellin is 85% open. Barranquilla was only 30% open. Very nice to eat out versus delivery only.

Was in Medellin for a month a year ago. Feels almost the exact same except police running off people at times at Centro telling them to move along to stop grouping up.

I see the out every day regular groups of girls, and surely the weekend only types, and only here once or twice to buy a birthday present or special needs girls. Only been here 4 days and see no head person running the show. So either that person is gone or it was BS. Pollonegro, if this guy running the girls is still there be sure to PM me. Then I will give you my Whatsapp. You text me and I will come running just to see this in action. You do not even have to meet me. Just send a picture of the guy and tell me where he normally can be found. I should be able to tell by the picture. Thanks.

No change, check out the carrera 81 building in La Castellana if you want to try something different. 60 K and there are usually 10 to 15 girls. I was at Luna's Los Colores apt over the weekend. There are a couple of new girls there. It makes me think they they are rotating the girls between their two apartments. They opened the other one a couple of weeks ago behind the nightclub.

On a separate note I'm getting messages from some of my favorite restaurants that they plan to reopen their dining rooms within a week. Mistura and La Causa are among them.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2464709]Any new casa openings? Thinking about doing a casa run tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2464673]I would certainly believe you if you paid half but you talk a huge game that you're getting dimes for 50 k, so far the pics you post suggest otherwise.

The reality is that I want what I want when I want it and if I have to pay 250 k for a stunner for the night, the $30 difference for an entire night of fun is meaningless. I don't like waiting a week until the chick is hungry, I want her to come over now. I spent less in Medellin having chicas over everyday than I do in PR doing nothing. I actually couldn't believe how inexpensive of a city it is. If you're making $1500 a day, I don't know why you're so concerned over the price. Get the best.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, I know several guys who are financially very well off, and can easily afford to stay in luxury digs, pull as an example "Gusto girls" nightly, yet they choose not to as this is just not their style to do so. Yes, sometimes we have posters that are so cheap it doesn't make any sense at all, and others that seem to just throw their money into the wind. But really, does it matter how one guy rolls versus another?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2464733]Today out walking around I made a few small detours.

I stopped by a big drug store and the answer: NO.

I stopped by a small drug store and the answer: YES.

For a finders fee or tip I am sure most small drug stores will help you. If they carry it.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Great answer!

There will be overnight curfews for all the long weekends until further notice. I'm not sure that will hold up once more restaurants with bars are back open beginning next week. The weekend ban on alcohol sales is pretty meaningless. Just like during elections I expect places to quietly sell booze in paper cups. Most of us just stock up by Friday anyway. I'm watching the news about national flights closely because it will be an early indicator of how solid the September 1 target is.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2464738]Wow this place is hopping! Barranquilla had a lock down Saturday, Sunday, and Monday for 2 weeks in a row. The next weekend I think was also locked down. Not sure because moved to a more residential area with people out and Monday was a holiday so everything closed and the past weekend I was not there. Appears as if Medellin is 85% open. Barranquilla was only 30% open. Very nice to eat out versus delivery only.

Was in Medellin for a month a year ago. Feels almost the exact same except police running off people at times at Centro telling them to move along to stop grouping up.

I see the out every day regular groups of girls, and surely the weekend only types, and only here once or twice to buy a birthday present or special needs girls. Only been here 4 days and see no head person running the show. So either that person is gone or it was BS. Pollonegro, if this guy running the girls is still there be sure to PM me. Then I will give you my Whatsapp. You text me and I will come running just to see this in action. You do not even have to meet me. Just send a picture of the guy and tell me where he normally can be found. I should be able to tell by the picture. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2464866]For what it's worth, I know several guys who are financially very well off, and can easily afford to stay in luxury digs, pull as an example "Gusto girls" nightly, yet they choose not to as this is just not their style to do so. Yes, sometimes we have posters that are so cheap it doesn't make any sense at all, and others that seem to just throw their money into the wind. But really, does it matter how one guy rolls versus another?[/QUOTE]I remember sitting in my favorite little dive bar in Point Loma, San Diego one Saturday morning. Back before it was gentrified. Back when it was where the sailors from the sub base would hang out. Bartender-owner was a good guy.

Saw this guy passed out on the bar. Looked like he was homeless. I asked the bartender if he was running a flophouse now and why hadn't he tossed the guy out.

Told me the guy came in a few times a year. Lived on a boat. Whenever he moored in Point Loma he'd hit the bar and start drinking. Always bought rounds for the bar, always paid in $100 bills and always told him to keep the change. Eventually he would pass out for a few hours, before stumbling back to his boat.

He was doing what made him happy, or at least was living his life the way he chose.

I've known others who spend the year running up credit card balances trying to look like they've got money and then hope to get a big enough tax refund to get caught up. After 7-8 years, they're filing for bankruptcy and struggling to get back up to where they can pretend to be doing great.

You only get one life. Find a way to make it a good one.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2464741]No change, check out the carrera 81 building in La Castellana if you want to try something different. 60 K and there are usually 10 to 15 girls. [/QUOTE]Haven't tried them yet, but I wasn't too impressed with the pics they sent me. Any recommendations?

I already made a recommendation in the post you responded to. All the casas send pics so go with whichever impress you enough.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2464909]Haven't tried them yet, but I wasn't too impressed with the pics they sent me. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]

That I agree especially when obviously they have money but like you said different strokes for different folks.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2464866]Yes, sometimes we have posters that are so cheap it doesn't make any sense at all, and others that seem to just throw their money into the wind. But really, does it matter how one guy rolls versus another?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2464866]For what it's worth, I know several guys who are financially very well off, and can easily afford to stay in luxury digs, pull as an example "Gusto girls" nightly, yet they choose not to as this is just not their style to do so. Yes, sometimes we have posters that are so cheap it doesn't make any sense at all, and others that seem to just throw their money into the wind. But really, does it matter how one guy rolls versus another?[/QUOTE]No, it doesn't matter at all. I was responding to being told that anyone paying over 200 k is overpaying. PN comes here and says he is banging 4-8 chicas a day every day for 4 months and they are the best in Medellin. And he knows because he's slept with them all. And he never pays more than 50 k. Then he posts 4-5 pics of the same 4-5 girls for months on end and tells people its a waste to spend more because he is getting the same chicas for less.

At that point, I need to say something because its just not true. He is getting chicas on the cheap, cool, that's his style, I'm all good with that. But he's not getting the same chicas for those prices but he keeps claiming he does. His photos prove otherwise.

I do agree that some guys are paying the same chica off FB 200 k and some are paying her $200 on the weekend from Gusto's, but I wasn't responding to that. The claim he makes is that he is getting the same chicas that are legit 9's for 50-70 k and that anyone paying 200 k is overpaying.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2464673]I would certainly believe you if you paid half but you talk a huge game that you're getting dimes for 50 k, so far the pics you post suggest otherwise.[/QUOTE]I get where you are coming from. You are going to get the same Pollo Negro when you meet him in person. He does not judge "hotness" by picture alone. He is not talking differently online and in person but one probably will understand him better in person.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2464921]
I do agree that some guys are paying the same chica off FB 200 k and some are paying her $200 on the weekend from Gusto's, but I wasn't responding to that. The claim he makes is that he is getting the same chicas that are legit 9's for 50-70 k and that anyone paying 200 k is overpaying.[/QUOTE]This I can chime in. I paid a lot sometimes for chicks. PN look at the picture and he told me I can get the same in El Centro. And he knows I am quite familiar with El Centro. I know him so I know what he said from his perspective is true. He is true to his words and he is not going to sugar coat it because he knows me. I think one can argue about the semantics but IMO that is missing the point.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2464738]I see the out every day regular groups of girls, and surely the weekend only types, and only here once or twice to buy a birthday present or special needs girls. Only been here 4 days and see no head person running the show. So either that person is gone or it was BS. Pollonegro, if this guy running the girls is still there be sure to PM me. Then I will give you my Whatsapp. You text me and I will come running just to see this in action. You do not even have to meet me. Just send a picture of the guy and tell me where he normally can be found. I should be able to tell by the picture. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Medellin! I look forward to your reports.

I've asked about 20 chicas in Botero if there's somebody who runs the show as PN describes, if there's someone who the girls report to. Some of these girls I session with, chat with, am familiar with, am friends with. The answer from every single one of them is an immediate and clear No.

I took my 18 yo Paisa Paisa to the mall again two days ago. Bought her a few items at Forever 21 and came back to the apartment and she fucked my brains out. Things get better and better each time with her. She is an open minded girl and down for anything. I'm having a very fun time with this one.

Question for the group: Is there a love motel in or close to El Poblado that you can recommend?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464900]I remember sitting in my favorite little dive bar in Point Loma, San Diego one Saturday morning. Back before it was gentrified. Back when it was where the sailors from the sub base would hang out.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about The Body Shop, then one of those sailors was me! Coming from Atlanta, I thought that was the worst strip club on the planet.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2464946]If you are talking about The Body Shop, then one of those sailors was me! Coming from Atlanta, I thought that was the worst strip club on the planet.[/QUOTE]Wrong end of Point Loma. If you continued down Rosecrans past all the houses, there was a small business area that used to be tiny strip clubs and dive bars. They began closing the strip clubs down in 1985, but the dive bars were still around into the early 90's. Port o Call was one. Can't remember the rest.

And yes, the Body Shop sucked.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2464943]Welcome to Medellin! I look forward to your reports.

I've asked about 20 chicas in Botero if there's somebody who runs the show as PN describes, if there's someone who the girls report to. Some of these girls I session with, chat with, am familiar with, am friends with. The answer from every single one of them is an immediate and clear No.

I took my 18 yo Paisa Paisa to the mall again two days ago. Bought her a few items at Forever 21 and came back to the apartment and she fucked my brains out. Things get better and better each time with her. She is an open minded girl and down for anything. I'm having a very fun time with this one.

Question for the group: Is there a love motel in or close to El Poblado that you can recommend?[/QUOTE]Arguably the best is Motel Ibiza. It's about 8 k taxi ride from the Lleras area. I am not certain they are open. Closer, in the Manila neighborhood is Las Cabanas. Both have websites which should have info on whether they are open.

All Motel Ibiza rooms have a jacuzzi tub, rainfall shower, stripper pole, love chair, couch, WiFi, TV with porn channels, mood lighting a sound system, and a well stocked mini bar. Full bar and restaurant on site and a catalog of available sex toys, costumes or whatever you need to get freaky. Basic rate is about 85 k for 6 hours. Extremely clean.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2464925]I get where you are coming from. You are going to get the same Pollo Negro when you meet him in person. He does not judge "hotness" by picture alone. He is not talking differently online and in person but one probably will understand him better in person.[/QUOTE]That's a good point. On the board and in person vary from Monger to Monger. I've met guys who went from fluent in Spanish to a 300 word vocabulary. I've met guys who say they know a little about Medellin who get stopped every 2 minutes by some local they know.

We all are attached to our methods. It often seems strange that others don't do things the way we do. But everyone needs to find their niche.

First monger I met in Medellin, was on his first trip. If I remember correctly, just divorced from his Colombian wife and decided to go to the source. When he was asking for advice, several guys told him El Centro was the only place to be. I suggested he start at the Mansion.

He spent one night at his room in El Centro and was lucky to get a room at the Mansion. Bought me some beer and thanked me, because El Centro was one big panic attack to him. He was loving it at the Mansion.

I'm like minded when it comes to rating the girls I'm with. I rate them 3 ways: face, body and performance. I'm willing to overlook flaws in the first two if the performance is off the charts. The most incredible face and body can't make up for a starfish performance. A pornstar performance can definitely make up for a few stretch marks.

85 K for a love motel. That is Poblado for sure.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464958]Arguably the best is Motel Ibiza. It's about 8 k taxi ride from the Lleras area. I am not certain they are open. Closer, in the Manila neighborhood is Las Cabanas. Both have websites which should have info on whether they are open.

All Motel Ibiza rooms have a jacuzzi tub, rainfall shower, stripper pole, love chair, couch, WiFi, TV with porn channels, mood lighting a sound system, and a well stocked mini bar. Full bar and restaurant on site and a catalog of available sex toys, costumes or whatever you need to get freaky. Basic rate is about 85 k for 6 hours. Extremely clean.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2464968]85 K for a love motel. That is Poblado for sure.[/QUOTE]Or Itagui. The website says 99 K but perhaps 85 K if they can be persuaded to drop the IVA for a tourist?

[URL]https://motelibiza.com/tarifas[/URL]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2464921]No, it doesn't matter at all. I was responding to being told that anyone paying over 200 k is overpaying. PN comes here and says he is banging 4-8 chicas a day every day for 4 months and they are the best in Medellin. And he knows because he's slept with them all. And he never pays more than 50 k. Then he posts 4-5 pics of the same 4-5 girls for months on end and tells people its a waste to spend more because he is getting the same chicas for less..[/QUOTE]Are you upset that there are people from the board who knows me personal, or are you more upset that I can still get a hard on to bang 4-6 chicas everyday. You left 4 months ago, imagine how many of them high priced Poblado chics are missing your money. Do you think that they are turning down a guaranteed $60-$80,000 pesos every day? Dude don't kid yourself.

I can show you over 200 hundred different chicas that I have sessioned with, and can show you more than 120 chicas on this trip. You can best believe that 95% of every chic that I have sessioned with, have allowed me to video. That's just my thing, I have certain things I like to do with each chic that I really like. Stop fooling yourself that these chics are low mileage and innocent. These chics have swallowed more of my kids than I care to remember. Pretty good chance if they don't allow photos, then I only session with them once.

I am not the type of monger to recommend girls who I have not photo'the myself or video'the myself. I don't want you to get the made up chic on a photo and then she show up as plain jain then you are wondering who the hell is this girl Pollo Negro sent, she looks nothing like her pics. I will not recommend a girl who does not do everything that I tell you she will do. I don't build these girls up to help them with dates for free sex. If I like them and build a report then I tell them that I will share their number with my friends and maybe they will call. I have no need to save these chics all to myself. I am happy to share information, if the girl catches your eye and you are in Medellin and want to date the girl. The only thing I will not do is set her price, she willl tell you what her price is.

I will always be thankful to Nounce for watching him do something that I wanted to do but did not know how to at the time that I met him. He was working remotely and at the time I had a job that I had to report to and actually clock in, I returned to America with a plan to find a way to work remotely. Not only do I work remotely, I own the company and I work remotely earning more than I ever did working on a job where I clock in. It has to be something about the things I write or the way that I write that rubs you the wrong way. Truth is, if you saw me do what I do in person, maybe then it would make you a believer and only then you would see how wasteful you were being with money you could have saved for extra dates. Paying more doesn't mean you're getting the best, it just means you settled and paid what the chic was asking for, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2464943]Welcome to Medellin! I look forward to your reports.

I've asked about 20 chicas in Botero if there's somebody who runs the show as PN describes, if there's someone who the girls report to. Some of these girls I session with, chat with, am familiar with, am friends with. The answer from every single one of them is an immediate and clear No.?[/QUOTE]Do you think they would tell you yes, these guys are extorting me and smile about it? Trust me, I met these good for nothing crooks in the park and I paid them not one penny. They'd have to kill me before I would give them a penny, I have too much man in me to be extorted or give another man money out of fear, it was never taught to me and will never be in me. Tell that, Just pay them and leave $hit to guys who are fearful. I can guarantee you if you ask anyone in Botero Park do they know Peter, I guarantee you they will reply yes and will ask are you a friend. No one wants to admit that they are being pimped out, but many of the girls in the park are doing just that, its the life that they know and they know no other way.

One thing I can tell you is this, the guys in the park knew that robbing me was not going to be a piece of cake, because they had the numbers and they had the right environment. It was dark, there were about 13 of them, and I still left unharmed. As long as it is day time and there are tourist police visible you are pretty safe, if the tourist police are taking a break and the Gringos are in few numbers, these people are willing to try anything to survive, I have given my little rant for today. Pollo Negro is out!

Steam rooms, satellite TV with several porn channels, a la carte restaurant 24 hrs (Between $2 to $15 per item), and all rooms are air conditioned. Definitely the best value for the amount of amenities that they have available.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464958]Arguably the best is Motel Ibiza. It's about 8 k taxi ride from the Lleras area. I am not certain they are open. Closer, in the Manila neighborhood is Las Cabanas. Both have websites which should have info on whether they are open.

All Motel Ibiza rooms have a jacuzzi tub, rainfall shower, stripper pole, love chair, couch, WiFi, TV with porn channels, mood lighting a sound system, and a well stocked mini bar. Full bar and restaurant on site and a catalog of available sex toys, costumes or whatever you need to get freaky. Basic rate is about 85 k for 6 hours. Extremely clean.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464958]Arguably the best is Motel Ibiza. It's about 8 k taxi ride from the Lleras area. I am not certain they are open. Closer, in the Manila neighborhood is Las Cabanas. Both have websites which should have info on whether they are open.

All Motel Ibiza rooms have a jacuzzi tub, rainfall shower, stripper pole, love chair, couch, WiFi, TV with porn channels, mood lighting a sound system, and a well stocked mini bar. Full bar and restaurant on site and a catalog of available sex toys, costumes or whatever you need to get freaky. Basic rate is about 85 k for 6 hours. Extremely clean.[/QUOTE]Thank you. That's exactly the info I needed. I called both and unfortunately no answer at either; I'll follow up and post here what I learn.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2464968]85 K for a love motel. That is Poblado for sure.[/QUOTE]What's your point? These places seem magnitudes nicer than the motels we know in El Centro, right?

I'd be sad if Motel Ibiza is gone. That place is fantastic. Absolutely worth the money.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464958]Arguably the best is Motel Ibiza. It's about 8 k taxi ride from the Lleras area. I am not certain they are open. Closer, in the Manila neighborhood is Las Cabanas. Both have websites which should have info on whether they are open.

All Motel Ibiza rooms have a jacuzzi tub, rainfall shower, stripper pole, love chair, couch, WiFi, TV with porn channels, mood lighting a sound system, and a well stocked mini bar. Full bar and restaurant on site and a catalog of available sex toys, costumes or whatever you need to get freaky. Basic rate is about 85 k for 6 hours. Extremely clean.[/QUOTE]Ibiza is the best, it's next to club fahrenheit, an after hour club full of 18-21 year olds. During the pre-covid days, you can take a girl dancing in Fahrenheit, check into Ibiza to fuck for a few hours and go back to dancing again. In the morning, you can take her back to your Airbnb, hop in a hot tub and fuck a bit more, before sending her home and call up the next two 18 year olds. I hate this fucking virus, now I'm just sitting at home watching my youth fades away.

I paid 100 k for a few hours in Ibiza, I knew about 5 words of Spanish, so they likely over charged me, but it's still worth the money. One word of waning, the taxi waiting downstairs at Ibiza typically will over charge you, especially at night time.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464975]Do you think they would tell you yes, these guys are extorting me and smile about it? Trust me, I met these good for nothing crooks in the park and I paid them not one penny. They'd have to kill me before I would give them a penny, I have too much man in me to be extorted or give another man money out of fear, it was never taught to me and will never be in me. Tell that, Just pay them and leave $hit to guys who are fearful. I can guarantee you if you ask anyone in Botero Park do they know Peter, I guarantee you they will reply yes and will ask are you a friend. No one wants to admit that they are being pimped out, but many of the girls in the park are doing just that, its the life that they know and they know no other way.
[/QUOTE]What and how are these guys extorting you?

For your phone, girls, etc?

I've been going to el Centro de Medellin for about 20 years now.

I've heard girls talk about guys that run Veracruz, but never all of Botero.

I just don't get that involved.

Never been extorted.

I'm always there in the daytime, hardly ever at night and if so I'm on full battle alert, LOL.

I remember walking the streets near Show San Diego, that used to be the best place for street girls, years ago.

And the Mayorista, before the city of Itagui clamped down on the area, just rocked.

Anyway, good luck PN, you're an interesting guy.

So I decided to do my little casa run today. I meant to check out a few spots but it was near rush hour and threatening rain so I decided to hit Aiffe since I didn't partake the last time I was there. There were only about 6 chicas there, but it didn't matter because one of the chicas I had my eye on from before was there.

When I picked my chica, she led me to the room and then left for a few minutes. When she came back, I was already butt naked on the bed. She came in and I asked her about BBBJ. She said it would be a 20 mil propina. No problem. I asked her if work was busy and she told me "suave. " Great, this is what I like to hear. The chicas are hungry.

She gave excellent head. She had big full lips and knows how to use them. She went right to work and was slurping all over my cock. She was watching herself suck me in the mirror like she was enjoying the view and I was enjoying watching her admiring herself and her technique.

After about 15 minutes, I asked if she wanted me to butt in her mouth. She said no then asked me if she should continue. I told her to continue and I would tell her when to stop. The head was so good I started to think about random things so I wouldn't bust. Finally, couldn't take it anymore so I told her to put the condom on so I could smash.

She started off on top which was good because I was able to suck her tits while she rode me. The pus felt nice and tight. After a good 10 minutes we switched up to doggie style. This position felt incredibly good as she had a big ass which was like cushion all over my ball sack as I pounded away. She kept looking up at me in the mirror as she was moaning and the bed was levitating. Pus felt like it was made for my cock and I eventually busted a wad. I kept stroking for about another 10 minutes after I busted because the pus felt so good my cock stayed hard enough to continue stroking.

When we finished up we had some good small talk. This chica was neutral beforehand but a freak behind closed doors and had the sweetest personality. We had some nice convo, embraced and I left. It was very relaxing and the vibe was very laid back like we could have hung out and chilled for hours.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2464968]85 K for a love motel. That is Poblado for sure.[/QUOTE]Actually Itagui. Just a quick walk from Club Fahrenheit on the autopista.

It's all relative. 10-15 k for 1 hour in an El Centro room with only a bed and a shower. Hot water not guaranteed. Or 6 hours for 85 k in a large luxurious room.

Obviously not taking a 30 k girl to Ibiza, but take 2 Facebook girls there and usually they will stay as long as you want.

Is anyone else getting swamped with Facebook friend requests? I had been getting 1 a week. I've probably had 20 today. I don't know if I hit critical mass and suddenly I'm popping up everywhere, or if there's a Facebook feeding frenzy going on. Or maybe I got on a list somewhere.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464958]Arguably the best is Motel Ibiza. It's about 8 k taxi ride from the Lleras area. I am not certain they are open. Closer, in the Manila neighborhood is Las Cabanas. Both have websites which should have info on whether they are open.

All Motel Ibiza rooms have a jacuzzi tub, rainfall shower, stripper pole, love chair, couch, WiFi, TV with porn channels, mood lighting a sound system, and a well stocked mini bar. Full bar and restaurant on site and a catalog of available sex toys, costumes or whatever you need to get freaky. Basic rate is about 85 k for 6 hours. Extremely clean.[/QUOTE]I looked at the Ibiza website. On amenities icons, there are cars and motor bikes. What do they mean? Parking maybe?

I think I know which girl it was. Dark hair, slightly older than the others, excellent head game and overall skills. Good choice.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2465026]So I decided to do my little casa run today. I meant to check out a few spots but it was near rush hour and threatening rain so I decided to hit Aiffe since I didn't partake the last time I was there. There were only about 6 chicas there, but it didn't matter because one of the chicas I had my eye on from before was there.

When I picked my chica, she led me to the room and then left for a few minutes. When she came back, I was already butt naked on the bed. She came in and I asked her about BBBJ. She said it would be a 20 mil propina. No problem. I asked her if work was busy and she told me "suave. " Great, this is what I like to hear. The chicas are hungry.

She gave excellent head. She had big full lips and knows how to use them. She went right to work and was slurping all over my cock. She was watching herself suck me in the mirror like she was enjoying the view and I was enjoying watching her admiring herself and her technique.

After about 15 minutes, I asked if she wanted me to butt in her mouth. She said no then asked me if she should continue. I told her to continue and I would tell her when to stop. The head was so good I started to think about random things so I wouldn't bust. Finally, couldn't take it anymore so I told her to put the condom on so I could smash.[/QUOTE]

Yes, they are much nicer than short time places in Centro.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2464987]What's your point? These places seem magnitudes nicer than the motels we know in El Centro, right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2464958]Arguably the best is Motel Ibiza.
All Motel Ibiza rooms have a jacuzzi tub, rainfall shower, stripper pole, love chair, couch, WiFi, TV with porn channels, mood lighting a sound system, and a well stocked mini bar. Full bar and restaurant on site and a catalog of available sex toys, costumes or whatever you need to get freaky. Basic rate is about 85 k for 6 hours. Extremely clean[/QUOTE]Motel Ibiza is an Institution in Medellin and has the well-deserved reputation to be the best motel in Medellin. Highy recommended:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1775320&viewfull=1#post1775320[/URL]

Prices are ridiculous for what they provide. It offers nearly EVERYTHING, including rooms with two king size beds (understood?) steam bath for 6 (yes! 6 persons!!) and I heard about a jakuzzi for 8 (I saw the jakuzzi for 4). From the web site:
[I]Todas nuestras habitaciones cuentan con servicio de:
Internet Wi-Fi.
Televisores LED 42″ (55″ suite presidencial, 70″ Masion).
Todas las habitaciones tienen discoteca why barra de pole dance.
Algunas cuentan con jacuzzi why turco.
Suite Presidencial es para 4 personas (ideal para ocupaciand mltiple), persona adicional tiene precio extra. [/I]

If one wants to stay in Centro, one can also treat himself and do not necessarily limit options to 10 k rooms. Years ago I recommended the Motel Lafayette (pronounce "Lafajette" if you want to ask a taxi driver to take you there). [I]QUE CHIMBA!l[/I] my girl shouted, once we got in front of the big jacuzzi.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1547921&viewfull=1#post1547921[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1548014&viewfull=1#post1548014[/URL]

1 block from Metro Prado. Cr 50 #56-37. In 2014, I took the best room, large, round bed, love seat, jacuzzi, music, large LCD TV: only 37k for 5 hours!!
Photo posted in the report linked above.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2465092]Motel Ibiza is an Institution in Medellin and has the well-deserved reputation to be the best motel in Medellin. Highy recommended:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1775320&viewfull=1#post1775320[/URL]

Prices are ridiculous for what they provide. It offers nearly EVERYTHING, including rooms with two king size beds (understood?) steam bath for 6 (yes! 6 persons!!) and I heard about a jakuzzi for 8 (I saw the jakuzzi for 4). From the web site:
[I]Todas nuestras habitaciones cuentan con servicio de:
Internet Wi-Fi.
Televisores LED 42″ (55″ suite presidencial, 70″ Masion).
Todas las habitaciones tienen discoteca why barra de pole dance.
Algunas cuentan con jacuzzi why turco.
Suite Presidencial es para 4 personas (ideal para ocupaciand mltiple), persona adicional tiene precio extra. [/I]

If one wants to stay in Centro, one can also treat himself and do not necessarily limit options to 10 k rooms. Years ago I recommended the Motel Lafayette (pronounce "Lafajette" if you want to ask a taxi driver to take you there). [I]QUE CHIMBA!l[/I] my girl shouted, once we got in front of the big jacuzzi..[/QUOTE]The standard Motel Ibiza room has a jacuzzi that can hold 3 people. They also have a room called the Mansion which I believe can be rented for up to 40 people. Not sure how big the jacuzzi is in that one.

It can obviously get expensive. There's an extra charge for any extra persons, the minibar can add a big charge too. But it's not built for a quick session with a hooker.

[QUOTE]I looked at the Ibiza website. On amenities icons, there are cars and motor bikes. What do they mean? Parking maybe?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2350606]There are 2 ways in to Motel Ibiza. There's a walk in door and a vehicle gate. The walk-in door is for pedestrians and I assume motos. Taxis and personal cars use the gate. Personal cars get a 2nd floor room with a garage. People in taxis get a 3rd floor room. Driving around the hotel you'll see garage door, regular door, garage door, regular door. These are all controlled from the office. You can close them, once you park, or walk in, but you can't open them until you pay the bill.

I assume there are some smaller rooms located through the pedestrian entry.

There are 2 basic types of rooms: rooms with only a jacuzzi and rooms with a Jacuzzi and sauna. Sauna rooms are more expensive. All rooms have stripper pole, sex chair, shower, sound system and TV with porn channels.

The basic charge is for 2 people. Additional person charge is if you bring 2 girls.

Refrigerator is stocked with drinks, snacks, sex toys, condoms, bubble bath, lube, etc. There's also a sex toy and lingerie catalog along with a full menu, if you need something more. Refrigerator items are reasonably priced.[/QUOTE]I thought it was a good idea to requote this helpful post from last year.

I had that happen a few weeks ago. Not sure why. I speculate that I somehow triggered something that got me featured on the "friend suggestion" list for a lot of chicas. It seems to happen on occasion.

Interesting thing about "friend suggestions" - I look at them regularly. Sometimes I will see a girl on the list and she never re-appears. Other times a particularly will show up for days. I am not quite sure how Facebook has designed that feature to work.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2465047]Is anyone else getting swamped with Facebook friend requests? I had been getting 1 a week. I've probably had 20 today. I don't know if I hit critical mass and suddenly I'm popping up everywhere, or if there's a Facebook feeding frenzy going on. Or maybe I got on a list somewhere.[/QUOTE]

That would be parking yes. I use my apartment for amenities. I think 6 hour stays in Ibiza or other places like it are not that common but a higher end place is clearly more inviting for naps and lounging between rolls in the hay.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2465063]I looked at the Ibiza website. On amenities icons, there are cars and motor bikes. What do they mean? Parking maybe?[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464973]Are you upset that there are people from the board who knows me personal, or are you more upset that I can still get a hard on to bang 4-6 chicas everyday. You left 4 months ago, imagine how many of them high priced Poblado chics are missing your money. Do you think that they are turning down a guaranteed $60-$80,000 pesos every day? Dude don't kid yourself.

I can show you over 200 hundred different chicas that I have sessioned with, and can show you more than 120 chicas on this trip. You can best believe that 95% of every chic that I have sessioned with, have allowed me to video. That's just my thing, I have certain things I like to do with each chic that I really like. Stop fooling yourself that these chics are low mileage and innocent. These chics have swallowed more of my kids than I care to remember. Pretty good chance if they don't allow photos, then I only session with them once.

I am not the type of monger to recommend girls who I have not photo'the myself or video'the myself. I don't want you to get the made up chic on a photo and then she show up as plain jain then you are wondering who the hell is this girl Pollo Negro sent, she looks nothing like her pics. I will not recommend a girl who does not do everything that I tell you she will do. I don't build these girls up to help them with dates for free sex. If I like them and build a report then I tell them that I will share their number with my friends and maybe they will call. I have no need to save these chics all to myself. I am happy to share information, if the girl catches your eye and you are in Medellin and want to date the girl. The only thing I will not do is set her price, she willl tell you what her price is.[/QUOTE]My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO.

Now all understand that there are cameras in and around botero, the police are watching everything that goes on.

Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.

Now lets go get some new fresh pussy.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2465047]Is anyone else getting swamped with Facebook friend requests? I had been getting 1 a week. I've probably had 20 today. I don't know if I hit critical mass and suddenly I'm popping up everywhere, or if there's a Facebook feeding frenzy going on. Or maybe I got on a list somewhere.[/QUOTE]I am not a FB kind of guy as simply don't need it as I only have one dick that needs loving about every other day so can't even see the number of chicas who are in my regular rotation however I too get many FB friend requests but just don't have the time to follow through.

Now my best Colombian buddy who over the course of the past 3 or 4 years is my wing man has literally thousands of chicas in his FB and since he is paisa and cheap as hell he gets the same chicas that many of you do for a third of the costs, he typically pays about a 100 mil for some real cuties, why? Because he loves to play the drama shit game with them and talks with them and builds up a friendship / confidence with some over the course of a year or more and so when they need some help wham he is there "Johnny on the spot" hehehehe.

At times I am tempted to get a taste of some of his paisa girls, the same beauties that you all see and could have access to, as he wants to share them with me, after all "Sharing is caring" right, hehehhe what are friends for.

Now my Tinder has lighted up in the past month, have received over a hundred likes and am corresponding with a handful, possibly for a future visit, but just a lots of hoes on Tinder who only want pesos, these girls need to sell their pussy down in centro to see what life is really like.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO..[/QUOTE]The only area I can chime in on with confidence is the webcam girls. This is definitely a YMMV area. I'll give you one example.

I was called in to meet with a new model and her husband because I was going to be her monitor. Imagine Natalie Portman at 22, a few inches taller and with a high dollar boob job. I was initially blown away. This woman and her husband clearly didn't come from the bottom of the economic ladder. One of the reasons I was being put to work with her was because she would be working outside the studio. They already had all their own equipment, lights, laptop and webcam, plus a $3,000 DLSR 35 mm Nikon which they wanted to use. They had already had a fiber line run to their apartment (467 k per month) and both spoke excellent English.

She had recently finished schooling and was a dentist. He had a job as an accountant. Both came from estrato 6 families, they owned 2 cars and lived in a nice Hi-rise in Sabaneta. However, as a new dentist, the best she could get to work at another practice was under 2 million COP monthly. She wanted to go back to school to become an orthodontist, but didn't want her family to have to pay. So they decided on webcam modeling for her.

She did quite well until a family member stumbled onto her webcam show. He got some screenshots and took them to her parents.

We met once a week to go over her progress, show ideas and to keep track of whether or not it was causing problems with her marriage. She confessed to me that in college she was very outspoken against webcam and had always equated it to prostitution. However, she had come to see it in a different light.

She has her own practice now, walking distance from Parque Lleras, although she isn't doing dentistry. She's doing beauty treatments and she says business is good.

Many of the Webcam models get started with some pimp boyfriend, or someone like me, pays them to fuck and then talks them into webcam. Many of them continue taking citas, or go back to hooking when it doesn't work out. However, the ones who go the farthest are the ones who were brought up with a good work ethic. Those are the ones who have or will never go the direct P4P route.

I could have used my roommate as another example. If you impressed her and caught her in the right mood, she would fuck you senseless (based on the noises I occasionally heard from her room, not personal experience) and then buy you breakfast, but if you offered her money you would feel like you just jumped into the lion cage at the zoo.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465187]I am not a FB kind of guy as simply don't need it as I only have one dick that needs loving about every other day so can't even see the number of chicas who are in my regular rotation however I too get many FB friend requests but just don't have the time to follow through.

Now my best Colombian buddy who over the course of the past 3 or 4 years is my wing man has literally thousands of chicas in his FB and since he is paisa and cheap as hell he gets the same chicas that many of you do for a third of the costs, he typically pays about a 100 mil for some real cuties, why? Because he loves to play the drama shit game with them and talks with them and builds up a friendship / confidence with some over the course of a year or more and so when they need some help wham he is there "Johnny on the spot" hehehehe..[/QUOTE]It's all good. As long as you're getting it, you get it.

My non-pro harem has been in turmoil. The cheerleader is pissed because someone told her that I was chatting with her best friend and that her best friend was sending me videos. Which is true, but nobody can prove it. Her sister is still friendly with me, even though 3 of the sister's friends are sending me videos in exchange for a bit of support for their livestream shows and the latest chapter of the porn story I'm writing. And the cheerleader's mother friended me on Facebook.

The cheerleader's best friend and her sister's best friend are the current interesting ones. Both of them, just last week said there was no way they would send any nude videos. Let's call them Cathy (cheerleader's BFF) and Mary (sister's BFF). Important background information: The story I'm writing is aimed at submissive women, which both have admitted fantasizing about.

Mary reluctantly agreed to break out a nipple and did, but then went back to Disney stuff. It took about 10 minutes to convince her to reconsider the G-Rated approach. The next day she said she would try, but she's never done anything like that before. That was Sunday. I just received about 20 minutes worth that I haven't seen yet, but apparently a banana and her vibrator are both involved, plus a cameo of her mother walking in unannounced. The screenshot is her current feeling about making porn for me.

Cathy let me add a condition to her videos in exchange for my stories. I get to add a challenge to each one. That also began Sunday. She's not as far along as Mary, but is down to just panties and today starts playing with herself. She's a bit tougher than Mary. Once I opened Mary's eyes, she jumped in headfirst. Cathy has been dipping her toe in the water, but each time she goes a bit deeper.

Got to do something to fill my downtime. Might as well corrupt the college girls of Colombia.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?

I am only 5% serious here because I have a warped sense of humor and the idea that we are sharing photos of our grocery carts feels like theater of the absurd. Anyway, I will first throw some shade. Pollo you throw around words like "healthy" and "fresh" but I see the sliced American cheese individually plastic wrapped and full of artificial dye along with gallons of Coca-Cola. Now for some empty bragging: Look at my cart, it's smaller but healthier. LOL!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2465199]Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]

Is it the police who are watching or the street girl union leaders and the crime syndicate capos of Botero Plaza mentioned here in past weeks? But seriously, there is plenty of surveillance by camera, tourism police, national police, military, and plainclothes police. Including the family welfare and adolescent brigade. In Plaza Botero and throughout Medellin. Getting back to cameras it is not against the law to speak with or even enter buildings with anyone of any age. It is highly illegal to engage in certain activities with people who can't legally consent to it. So, once again for anyone who needs it, the best advice is to avoid it at all times.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2465210]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2465209]All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

How do you know this first hand?[/QUOTE]No they do not have face recognition, yet anyway, but that is not far off and could happen within the next few years.

Just step back for a moment and look at the transformation with all the public improvements they are making in this area, new streets, sidewalks, landscaping, seating, re-pavement with new signage and striping, the new walkway improvements along the the walking street Carabobo (Cr 52) and Calle 51 along with behind the vera on the whole stretch of Cundinamarca (Cr 53) etc. , etc. And the money being spent in the area, could they be planning to turn this area from a small bar street walking prostitution to a revived tourist zone? Just saying.

Look at the glass covered exhibit on CL 51 next to the vera! Any other time and place anywhere in Colombia and this would have been demolished and back-filled and covered with gravel and pavement, but no they even have it lighted to view at night, and what is it? An old sewer pipe system.

Next you ask about the security camera system and who is watching, you may think that it is a small room with maybe a cop haphazardly looking from time to time at a small screen! HUH they have a fully staffed and professionally equipment command center with multiple big screens, tracking camera systems, recording devices for all cameras, this rivals what you would find in a system in the USA. I have seen it.

How do I know that they know all us gringos who frequent Botero? Been told point blank by the sergeant in a conversation I had with him about 2 weeks ago as me and my Colombian buddy were standing in ground cento Vennie x-streets.

Was standing with my buddy and had an UNSOLICITED young Vennie simply walk up to us, withing 10 seconds two police magically showed up, beeline straight over to us, and spoke to us why we were speaking to a "known prostitute who's age is unclear and can not be verified". Yes after a few minutes they explained to us that we are being watched as they know us as the 2 gringos and that we should take their advice and leave the area and don't return that day.

Well after about 10 minutes my buddy and I thought it best to leave so we walked over to my car parked in the parqadero behind the museum and guess what? Yes we were followed by 2 other policemen and they kept their eyes on us, walked 20 meters behind us from ground zero over and into the parking spot until we drove out and left.

Of course we are known by the police, we stand out, I am recognizable from 3 blocks away and they have a memory like an elephant.

So I have factual first hand experience and my ONLY reason for posting this is so others can be mindful and just a bit careful when around this area.

Love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

Saw this vid gives a little glimpse of Centro now [URL]https://youtu.be/0JuDuIZxKWg[/URL].

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2465199]Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Soda on the bottom, cookies on the top. 'healthy food' LOL.

I am thankful people like PN and the Tall Man share their info. I happen to think they seem pretty straight up with only the usual embellishing everyone naturally does based on our biases perspectives imaginatioin ego and realty.

Hopefully I can create work for me there and in a 1 year or 2 I can move full time (or at least half the year to transition) to Medellin. I am trying to work on things now to make that reality happen and have already lived outside the US for the last decade--my point s--the posts here from some of the regulars are not only entertaining, they are motivating. The new MDE coming out of Covid will be interesting to watch and hopefully be a part of.

I wonder if the strip clubs will all open up or if there will be new ones or how that will change. Fase Dos, La Isla, Luna Lunera etc. They will always have a supply of girls and the locations are already there and built so I imagine it mostly picks up as usual come 2022 when the therapeutics and pseudo-vaccines actually get spread through enough of the market (if still needed).

This is absolutely true and I'm not sure why some here refuse to acknowledge it. Girls charge significantly different prices depending on where they are. I'd witnessed all sorts of permutations on this. For those that remember Geraldine from way back, she was charging 150 k at the Mansion and was available for 25 k at Mayorista. I've seen Fase 2 girls hanging around downtown available at a fraction of what they'd cost at the club. I've seen "Mansion girls" working at casas fucking guys for a fraction of what they'd get from a guest at the house.

My last trip in February, I met a very hot looking girl at a casa during the day. After the session, I got her number and later asked her to visit me in Poblado. We agreed on 150k + taxi for her to visit me. But she said if I got a motel downtown, 50 K was fine. After we fucked again (downtown), I asked her why she wanted three times as much to visit me. She said that she didn't feel like traveling to Poblado. It doesn't make sense, but she apparently had a comfort zone.

Of course every prepago doesn't do this. But a hell of a lot of them do.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465184]My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO.

Now all understand that there are cameras in and around botero, the police are watching everything that goes on.

Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.

Now lets go get some new fresh pussy.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2465221]I am only 5% serious here because I have a warped sense of humor and the idea that we are sharing photos of our grocery carts feels like theater of the absurd. Anyway, I will first throw some shade. Pollo you throw around words like "healthy" and "fresh" but I see the sliced American cheese individually plastic wrapped and full of artificial dye along with gallons of Coca-Cola. Now for some empty bragging: Look at my cart, it's smaller but healthier. LOL![/QUOTE]Lets say I have a house full of visitors, which I do, many who have never ate American style hamburgers. I would hate to try and show them what hamburgers look like and taste like without american cheese and coca cola. Anyway you get the point, you're not buying a buggy full of groceries in the USA for $100 USD. It has to be my delivery that makes BMs point out every little thing that I type and run with it. Hamburgers are unhealthy but that's what I plan on cooking tonight, along with a big glass of coca cola. LOL, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2465239]Saw this vid gives a little glimpse of Centro now [URL]https://youtu.be/0JuDuIZxKWg[/URL].[/QUOTE]Two disgraceful, repulsive foreigners (gringos?) at 2'57" I saw them today as I walked to my bus after shopping for glasses and phone accessories downtown. They, and a couple of others look as bad or worse than the homeless Colombians with untreated mental illness in my neighborhood. In the army they'd surely get the sheep sheers and wire brush clean-up treatment.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465236]No they do not have face recognition, yet anyway, but that is not far off and could happen within the next few years.

Just step back for a moment and look at the transformation with all the public improvements they are making in this area, new streets, sidewalks, landscaping, seating, re-pavement with new signage and striping, the new walkway improvements along the the walking street Carabobo (Cr 52) and Calle 51 along with behind the vera on the whole stretch of Cundinamarca (Cr 53) etc. , etc. And the money being spent in the area, could they be planning to turn this area from a small bar street walking prostitution to a revived tourist zone? Just saying.

Look at the glass covered exhibit on CL 51 next to the vera! Any other time and place anywhere in Colombia and this would have been demolished and back-filled and covered with gravel and pavement, but no they even have it lighted to view at night, and what is it? An old sewer pipe system.

Next you ask about the security camera system and who is watching, you may think that it is a small room with maybe a cop haphazardly looking from time to time at a small screen! HUH they have a fully staffed and professionally equipment command center with multiple big screens, tracking camera systems, recording devices for all cameras, this rivals what you would find in a system in the USA. I have seen it.[/QUOTE]Interesting as a friend of mine who is an obvious gringo had a similar experience with a cop who came over and told him he was talking with a prostitute and to warn him. So really what is happening, it's not that they are watching for gringos specifically on their video system, but are also watching in person, and when they see an obvious gringo (s) they may intervene. So if you stick out like a sore thumb as you mentioned, you are going to get a lot of attention. Fortunately I pass as a Colombian and have been told so by other Colombians so I pretty much am under the radar until I open my mouth, however can totally relate to what you have experienced.

When I was India it was much more intense there being a foreigner than anywhere else in the world. Kind of like fly's on shit, everybody and your brother is checking you out, and when you think about it, there are a lot of places on this planet where people have never seen people of different races. I have a friend from South Korea who visits Medellin a lot, and he get's lot's of attention, more so than a gringo, and it rubs both ways, with the good way being all of the girls were checking him out.

Personally, I like flying under the radar, and the information you've provided is good for others to be aware of, and a reminder to always use caution, especially if you don't fit in.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2465242]Soda on the bottom, cookies on the top. 'healthy food' LOL.

I am thankful people like PN and the Tall Man share their info. I happen to think they seem pretty straight up with only the usual embellishing everyone naturally does based on our biases perspectives imaginatioin ego and realty.

Hopefully I can create work for me there and in a 1 year or 2 I can move full time (or at least half the year to transition) to Medellin. I am trying to work on things now to make that reality happen and have already lived outside the US for the last decade--my point s--the posts here from some of the regulars are not only entertaining, they are motivating. The new MDE coming out of Covid will be interesting to watch and hopefully be a part of.

I wonder if the strip clubs will all open up or if there will be new ones or how that will change. Fase Dos, La Isla, Luna Lunera etc. They will always have a supply of girls and the locations are already there and built so I imagine it mostly picks up as usual come 2022 when the therapeutics and pseudo-vaccines actually get spread through enough of the market (if still needed).[/QUOTE]From what several people have told me, most Colombian building owners have no problem letting a building or apartment sit empty. There isn't the urgency to get something rented or leased that you find in the US.

I imagine the strip clubs will all be back eventually.

Wifey has been gone for a couple days. Period, eyelashes appointment, braces appointment, checking in at home, etc. She's heading back now.

However, I was messaging a few girls from SA, yesterday. I had a good vibe with one of them. She offered to come over at 6 p. I asked for 8 p, because I was just cleaning and refilling the jacuzzi around 1 p. We settled on 7 p. I had to bring up the cost. She asked what I wanted to give her. I said 200 k for a few hours, condom ok but BBBJ and no other rules, no clock watching. She said 500 k. How that didn't kill the conversation is beyond me. She said I wouldn't regret it. I told her if I had a peso for every time I heard that line. Well, we agreed on 300 k.

24 yo mulatta, tight body, one tattoo under the armpit, scar on her side from surgery, long black hair, small natural tits, but almost a handful. Cute smile, great energy, good conversation. We had dinner and split a bottle of red wine. That alone made up for the 300 k price tag, as it compares to a night with Pinky & Wifey, slugging half-Smirnoffs all night and hoovering tussi. Anyway, we got in the jacuzzi, had some music on, and she was incredibly sexual and sensual. It was a nice change of pace from Wifey who gives me the Heisman if I accidentally touch her when we're in bed, sleeping. So, she looks about 20 yo, and doesn't have an ounce of fat on her. We go at it in the jacuzzi. Great kisser, very passionate, I had to go down on her. I'm certain she could hold a 500 peso moneda in there without it falling out. She returned the favor and she knows what the fuck she is doing. It was really nice. A couple positions in the jacuzzi, back and forth, and I busted in the condom. She begged to go into the bedroom.

So, off we went. I go back down on her, and she is convulsing. I forgot to mention that, in the first part. She orgasmed easily and hard. I don't know if she always does, or not. It was pretty passionate, and I could tell she was into it. She said she liked watching in the mirror. Rounds 2 and 3 were in the bed, and she kept pulling out new tricks. It was truly impressive. Positions, techniques, just wow. Deep-throating, face-fucking, spitting, hand use, ass play. No photos, but I got a few before we got in the jacuzzi, and another later when she was in bed. Anyway, it was a great few hours. I was dripping sweat and the end of Rounds 2 and 3. She tells me to come relax in bed, and she's massaging me, cuddling, all good. She had told me she wanted to come over early because she had work today. We're lying in bed and I told her she could stay if she wanted. She kind of looked me up and down, took her time, and said yes. I think we went to bed around 1130p. My balls hurt from pounding her all night.

So, I woke up at 7 a, and at 9 a, she's pulling me off the computer for Round 4. Oh, BTW, Rounds 3 & 4 were sin condon. So, around 10-11 a, she says she's leaving. She asked if I could get her an Uber, and I said no. Idk why, kind of a dick move, but I just felt like 300 k is a decent amount, and fuck an up-charge. She lives way up by Bello. She looked amazing, today. High heels, tight black pants, little red zip-up blouse. So, she leaves and we're messaging throughout the day. She asks if I have a girlfriend. We had talked about Wifey, but only that she lived here for awhile during quarantine and we had some parties, etc. I told her I don't have a girlfriend, but I have a special amiga that stays here. She said ok and said we should hook up again, this weekend. I asked about a threesome, and she asked for photos. I forgot to send them, but whatever. So, she then says that next time, I don't have to pay her. Well, if I could pay her taxis, that would be nice. I asked her why she wasn't working, today, and she said because it was an amazing night, she's sore, and she's tired.

So, 300 k well-spent, if you ask me. I think a threesome with her and Wifey would be amazing. Wifey would have her cumming in 30 seconds. She would also, hopefully, teach Wifey a thing or two about head game and fucking, and maybe even sensuality. We'll see...

Pinky asked me to help her with 400 k for rent, a week ago. I blew her off. Wifey also deleted her from WhatsApp, then Pinky reached out yesterday to ask if Wifey could help her find a job. I do feel bad, but fuck. I bought her a cell phone and a week later she's asking for 400 k. That's one TLN with some gringo, in my book. In my mind, I have 4-5 freebies from her, still.

Cheers.

Many of the casa girls live north of Centro. To schlep to Poblado they have to get through traffic jams in both directions and get home hours later than usual. Some of them have to pay child care, care for elderly relatives, and often prepare evening meals. Worst of all, it is risky because stick up boys target taxis coming out of Poblado at night, especially around San Diego. So don't take it personally, it's about the travel.

[QUOTE=Combo;2465257]This is absolutely true and I'm not sure why some here refuse to acknowledge it. Girls charge significantly different prices depending on where they are. I'd witnessed all sorts of permutations on this. For those that remember Geraldine from way back, she was charging 150 k at the Mansion and was available for 25 k at Mayorista. I've seen Fase 2 girls hanging around downtown available at a fraction of what they'd cost at the club. I've seen "Mansion girls" working at casas fucking guys for a fraction of what they'd get from a guest at the house.

My last trip in February, I met a very hot looking girl at a casa during the day. After the session, I got her number and later asked her to visit me in Poblado. We agreed on 150k + taxi for her to visit me. But she said if I got a motel downtown, 50 K was fine. After we fucked again (downtown), I asked her why she wanted three times as much to visit me. She said that she didn't feel like traveling to Poblado. It doesn't make sense, but she apparently had a comfort zone.

Of course every prepago doesn't do this. But a hell of a lot of them do..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2465271]Two disgraceful, repulsive foreigners (gringos?) at 2'57" I saw them today as I walked to my bus after shopping for glasses and phone accessories downtown. They, and a couple of others look as bad or worse than the homeless Colombians with untreated mental illness in my neighborhood. In the army they'd surely get the sheep sheers and wire brush clean-up treatment.[/QUOTE]Damn you got good eyes and see stuff, impressive as I watched the whole 5 minute video earlier today and observed if I could see myself as I knew that I was walking botero and the vera on July 3rd, but no sightings of The Tall Man on the video.

Your right about those 2 gringos, my god what an embarrassment to any gringo anywhere, but to each his own.

The Tall Man.

LOL! Those guys are regulars in the plaza.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2465271]Two disgraceful, repulsive foreigners (gringos?) at 2'57" I saw them today as I walked to my bus after shopping for glasses and phone accessories downtown. They, and a couple of others look as bad or worse than the homeless Colombians with untreated mental illness in my neighborhood. In the army they'd surely get the sheep sheers and wire brush clean-up treatment.[/QUOTE]

The ATM offered withdrawal selections of 1,540,000 and 2,000,000 COP. In the past the max was always 400,000 in Medellin, Cucuta, Bogota, Cartagena, and my first month in Barranquilla. This is a huge jump. I chose 400,000 but had a bad feeling so jerked out my card. Received a TRANSACTION ERROR and a print out ticket saying error no money paid. But money was deducted from my Schwab account. Schwab denied the claim even though tI sent picture of receipt with none payment. I called and explained this is a slam dunk. Look at your own description. All my withdrawals have format of:

Calle 53 No 46-192, Bar be / QUILL.

Carrera 51 # 50-26 MEDELLI.

Calle 28 No. 13 A - 17 Bogota.

Except this one that ripped me off:

Davivienda Davi be / QUILL 0800100 be / QUIL.

I thought it was a skimmer or something because it was during the weekend. Weeks later I tried again. Same high amount. Went to 3 banks and all the same high amounts offered. Fine I selected my regular 400,000. During processing (counting) (but no noise) I receive the Error screen and no money. Same description on my Schwab account. Schwab finally paid both.

Arrive at Medellin bus station I try again and the same high amounts offered so I walked away. Never use Davivienda again! Now use BBVA with no fees. Highest withdrawal is 600,000.

The picture of 2,000,000 withdrawal selection.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464587]with a 18 year guarantee [/QUOTE]Sorry but really an 18 year quote guarantee there in Colombia?? Even in USA Dental companies come and go but man you are in Colombia and even dentists in USA Have implants fail then have to fight them literally tooth and nails.

FYI. Knowledge and PolloNegro. The Admins will be kicking you off this site. No food porn! That only belongs in the darkest furthest corner of the Dark Web.

Saw a girl with a T-shirt that read hotter than wasabi. Of course it was on a fat ugly girl. It should be illegal to to sell T-shirt such as that or PHAT (pretty hot and tempting) to ugly or fat girls. A line needs to be drawn. Be outraged!

Strange no ARA markets here. Only Justo and Bueno and D1. Hate D1. Their fruit juice have less juice content than the other stores and they had the worst cola I have ever tasted. Petty yes. But petty I am. This is highly valuable information that needs to get out there. Rant over.

I feel horrible about all guys not here and I wanted to do a dedication to as many of you as I can. So this is what I came up with. I finish doggie style. When the time is right I say, "I am cumming. I am cumming". Then she screams out loud what I have written on the piece of paper in front of her.

OMG! Frank, Sammy, Bart. You are the best!

There are a lot of you so have to do 3 names at a time. You are welcome.

So ashamed. Jumped the gun. First girl in Medellin suckered me. Took her shirt off and her small boobs got even smaller. Like half. Hate that! But later that day I saw a girl with a nice rack walking toward me. But as she past by where I was sitting I could see her bra sticking out many inches from her boobs. She was 3 sizes smaller than here bra. We should be able to sue women for false advertising because it is emotionally devastating! Let me say that again devastating! What? You are asking could it get worse? Of course. She looked 5 years older when she took off the face mask. But she was pretty good lay. But I believe in balance in the world so I promptly compensated with this fake boob girl.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2465271]Two disgraceful, repulsive foreigners (gringos?) at 2'57" I saw them today as I walked to my bus after shopping for glasses and phone accessories downtown. They, and a couple of others look as bad or worse than the homeless Colombians with untreated mental illness in my neighborhood. In the army they'd surely get the sheep sheers and wire brush clean-up treatment.[/QUOTE]LOL WTF!! Are they talking to SWs in that video? Is it disrespectful to hang out like that in Medellin. I have seen many begpackers like that in Medellin. Locals don't seem to mind that much though.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465236]
Next you ask about the security camera system and who is watching, you may think that it is a small room with maybe a cop haphazardly looking from time to time at a small screen! HUH they have a fully staffed and professionally equipment command center with multiple big screens, tracking camera systems, recording devices for all cameras, this rivals what you would find in a system in the USA. I have seen it.
[/QUOTE]I hope that this system will protect us from being mugged, because others have said that as soon as the tourist police disappear, any gringo is very vulnerable to gangs with knives.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2465332]Sorry but really an 18 year quote guarantee there in Colombia?? Even in USA Dental companies come and go but man you are in Colombia and even dentists in USA Have implants fail then have to fight them literally tooth and nails.[/QUOTE]Lasted 31 years, it just did not agree with the status Quo, so here I am, making the necessary changes to meet the Status Quo! Glad I only live 3 hours away from Colombia and I have to problem flying back down if I have any problems with my teeth, currently 1 year later, and I am more than happy with the service that I have been provided. Pollo Negro is out!

The withdrawal limits maybe lower, however, their ATM's used to be Citibank's; they bought them off before they left Colombia. It's a Canadian bank and they have been 100%, (no issues from them or Citibank in over 15 years of travel) in any city that I've visited in Colombia and other countries.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2465327]The ATM offered withdrawal selections of 1,540,000 and 2,000,000 COP. In the past the max was always 400,000 in Medellin, Cucuta, Bogota, Cartagena, and my first month in Barranquilla. This is a huge jump. I chose 400,000 but had a bad feeling so jerked out my card. Received a TRANSACTION ERROR and a print out ticket saying error no money paid. But money was deducted from my Schwab account. Schwab denied the claim even though tI sent picture of receipt with none payment. I called and explained this is a slam dunk. Look at your own description. All my withdrawals have format of:

Calle 53 No 46-192, Bar be / QUILL.

Carrera 51 # 50-26 MEDELLI.

Calle 28 No. 13 A - 17 Bogota.

Except this one that ripped me off:

Davivienda Davi be / QUILL 0800100 be / QUIL.

I thought it was a skimmer or something because it was during the weekend. Weeks later I tried again. Same high amount. Went to 3 banks and all the same high amounts offered. Fine I selected my regular 400,000. During processing (counting) (but no noise) I receive the Error screen and no money. Same description on my Schwab account. Schwab finally paid both.

Arrive at Medellin bus station I try again and the same high amounts offered so I walked away. Never use Davivienda again! Now use BBVA with no fees. Highest withdrawal is 600,000.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2465327]The ATM offered withdrawal selections of 1,540,000 and 2,000,000 COP. In the past the max was always 400,000 in Medellin, Cucuta, Bogota, Cartagena, and my first month in Barranquilla. This is a huge jump. I chose 400,000 but had a bad feeling so jerked out my card. Received a TRANSACTION ERROR and a print out ticket saying error no money paid. But money was deducted from my Schwab account. Schwab denied the claim even though tI sent picture of receipt with none payment. I called and explained this is a slam dunk. Look at your own description. All my withdrawals have format of:

Calle 53 No 46-192, Bar be / QUILL.

Carrera 51 # 50-26 MEDELLI.

Calle 28 No. 13 A - 17 Bogota.

Except this one that ripped me off:

Davivienda Davi be / QUILL 0800100 be / QUIL.

I thought it was a skimmer or something because it was during the weekend. Weeks later I tried again. Same high amount. Went to 3 banks and all the same high amounts offered. Fine I selected my regular 400,000. During processing (counting) (but no noise) I receive the Error screen and no money. Same description on my Schwab account. Schwab finally paid both.

Arrive at Medellin bus station I try again and the same high amounts offered so I walked away. Never use Davivienda again! Now use BBVA with no fees. Highest withdrawal is 600,000.[/QUOTE]Davivienda offers up to 2 million per withdrawal, depending on your bank. I think it's 2,020,000. Had another guy tell me he didn't like Davivienda because he could only pull 400 k. We went to the same ATM. He was offered a maxif 400 k, I was offered up to 2 million.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2465443]The withdrawal limits maybe lower, however, their ATM's used to be Citibank's; they bought them off before they left Colombia. It's a Canadian bank and they have been 100%, (no issues from them or Citibank in over 15 years of travel) in any city that I've visited in Colombia and other countries.[/QUOTE]Good advice and you a can make three withdrawals a day of 600,000 Pesos for a total 1,800,000 Pesos per ATM card per day, and their exchange rate is higher than Bancolombia as well.

In March I was withdrawing 3,600,000 COP a day with two of my ATM cards when the COP exchange rate was over 4,000 COP to and depositing into my Bancolombia account.

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2465332]Sorry but really an 18 year quote guarantee there in Colombia?? Even in USA Dental companies come and go but man you are in Colombia and even dentists in USA Have implants fail then have to fight them literally tooth and nails.[/QUOTE]Or toothless and nails.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2465334]FYI. Knowledge and PolloNegro. The Admins will be kicking you off this site. No food porn! That only belongs in the darkest furthest corner of the Dark Web.

Saw a girl with a T-shirt that read hotter than wasabi. Of course it was on a fat ugly girl. It should be illegal to to sell T-shirt such as that or PHAT (pretty hot and tempting) to ugly or fat girls. A line needs to be drawn. Be outraged!

Strange no ARA markets here. Only Justo and Bueno and D1. Hate D1. Their fruit juice have less juice content than the other stores and they had the worst cola I have ever tasted. Petty yes. But petty I am. This is highly valuable information that needs to get out there. Rant over.

I feel horrible about all guys not here and I wanted to do a dedication to as many of you as I can. So this is what I came up with. I finish doggie style. When the time is right I say, "I am cumming. I am cumming". Then she screams out loud what I have written on the piece of paper in front of her.

OMG! Frank, Sammy, Bart. You are the best!

There are a lot of you so have to do 3 names at a time. You are welcome.[/QUOTE]Try Euro or Olimpico for markets.

That is a little unfair to backpackers. Those guys are neither in that general age range nor do they appear to as concerned with personal care. Bless their scruffy souls.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2465356]LOL WTF!! Are they talking to SWs in that video? Is it disrespectful to hang out like that in Medellin. I have seen many begpackers like that in Medellin. Locals don't seem to mind that much though.[/QUOTE]

Here's a way to avoid similar problems: always select Spanish / espanol as language. Sometimes the UI programmers don't translate well or they fat finger numerical table values. Substantially fewer users operate the ATMs using the English language option so errors (and they are usually configuration errors not fraud) take longer to be reported and repaired. Of course when that sort of thing happens in the Spanish language menus it gets put right much sooner. It's not very different from badly translated restaurant menus. I've seen some doozies on which pork, poultry, and beef are used interchangeably.

The amounts don't look realistic because they are not rounded. For that reason alone I would not have selected them. Sorry this happened to you.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2465328]The picture of 2,000,000 withdrawal selection.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2465327]The ATM offered withdrawal selections of 1,540,000 and 2,000,000 COP. In the past the max was always 400,000 in Medellin, Cucuta, Bogota, Cartagena, and my first month in Barranquilla. This is a huge jump. I chose 400,000 but had a bad feeling so jerked out my card. Received a TRANSACTION ERROR and a print out ticket saying error no money paid. But money was deducted from my Schwab account. Schwab denied the claim even though tI sent picture of receipt with none payment. I called and explained this is a slam dunk. Look at your own description. All my withdrawals have format of:

Calle 53 No 46-192, Bar be / QUILL.

Carrera 51 # 50-26 MEDELLI.

Calle 28 No. 13 A - 17 Bogota.

Except this one that ripped me off:

Davivienda Davi be / QUILL 0800100 be / QUIL.

I thought it was a skimmer or something because it was during the weekend. Weeks later I tried again. Same high amount. Went to 3 banks and all the same high amounts offered. Fine I selected my regular 400,000. During processing (counting) (but no noise) I receive the Error screen and no money. Same description on my Schwab account. Schwab finally paid both.

Arrive at Medellin bus station I try again and the same high amounts offered so I walked away. Never use Davivienda again! Now use BBVA with no fees. Highest withdrawal is 600,000.[/QUOTE]Denied? Did you have them file a chargeback? US banks are required to give you provisional credit until they get proof the funds dispensed from the merchant bank, via a journal entry from the ATM in question. I'd them call them again.

Ok, I call bullshit, BUT.

This is clearly making the rounds on FB / WhatsApp, if Wifey is sending it to me.

32-page federal decree (listed as Decreto 990), stating July 16 - August 1 isolation lock-down for all citizens.

I attached screenshots of the first and last couple of pages, along with the line simplifying it.

I hope this is fake, but who knows. I'll let some of you other guys do the investigation, and you just let me know how much I need to get at Carulla, next time I go!

[QUOTE=Combo;2465257]This is absolutely true and I'm not sure why some here refuse to acknowledge it. Girls charge significantly different prices depending on where they are. I'd witnessed all sorts of permutations on this. For those that remember Geraldine from way back, she was charging 150 k at the Mansion and was available for 25 k at Mayorista. I've seen Fase 2 girls hanging around downtown available at a fraction of what they'd cost at the club. I've seen "Mansion girls" working at casas fucking guys for a fraction of what they'd get from a guest at the house.

My last trip in February, I met a very hot looking girl at a casa during the day. After the session, I got her number and later asked her to visit me in Poblado. We agreed on 150k + taxi for her to visit me. But she said if I got a motel downtown, 50 K was fine. After we fucked again (downtown), I asked her why she wanted three times as much to visit me. She said that she didn't feel like traveling to Poblado. It doesn't make sense, but she apparently had a comfort zone.

Of course every prepago doesn't do this. But a hell of a lot of them do.

.[/QUOTE]I remember years back when Mayorista was a great place to hunt.

I met some Mansion guys who when they found out I was staying at Franks Place they wanted to check it out. After I gave them the tour as we were walking down the strip they said look there is Demi Moore (Geraldine). I had heard about her but never met her. While they started to talk to her I said I better not let this slip by. In a break in the conversation I asked her { tu trabajando } she said si.

I asked her how much and she said 30 K. Off to the room and she stayed till the next morning. I gave her 50 K for that amount of time even though we had agreed on 30 K. I think she stayed so long because I let her use my laptop and fed her breakfast and lunch. It sure was not me being a great lover. Funny after that we became friends and I one time sent her a guy who paid 150 K to meet her in Polblado. I took her one other time but this time she did not stay. I guess she did not like my cooking.

Those were the days. Back in the day, the Mansion did not have chicas at night. No bar. So it was an afternoon affair and chicas were gone by 6 pm So if you did not have an appointment, you had to find your own fun. And one of those places as Mayorista. Most of the girls would "hide" back against the wall, so it was not always easy to see them. You would have to call them over to get a good look at them and also gauge if they were legal. There were plenty of UA chicas there back then. You could find some real gems. I remember a bubble butt little spinner I saw a few times. Great performance for peanuts (although the exchange rate was not as good back then. Around 2200). I even got to know the guy who ran one of the ST love motels.

It was crazy back then. I went with two gringos once and they were a little crazy. I was drinking a bear and the next thing you know the two guys were standing by the street snorting what they hoped was cocaine off a cardboard box that some street walker was holding. Cops did not care.

I also remember a group of chicas harassing me to take their friend. She was cute and was dressed up in mini-mouse clothes and a mini-mouse hat that you'd get at Disney. She was quite a spinner, but to me she was clearly jail bait, so I passed. When I passed those girls kept making fun of me. Basically telling me I was a chicken! Jajajaj. Better a chicken than in jail.

Overall, more ups than downs there. I miss those days to some extent. It was something different.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2465541]I remember years back when Mayorista was a great place to hunt.

I met some Mansion guys who when they found out I was staying at Franks Place they wanted to check it out. After I gave them the tour as we were walking down the strip they said look there is Demi Moore (Geraldine). I had heard about her but never met her. While they started to talk to her I said I better not let this slip by. In a break in the conversation I asked her { tu trabajando } she said si.

I asked her how much and she said 30 K. Off to the room and she stayed till the next morning. I gave her 50 K for that amount of time even though we had agreed on 30 K. I think she stayed so long because I let her use my laptop and fed her breakfast and lunch. It sure was not me being a great lover. Funny after that we became friends and I one time sent her a guy who paid 150 K to meet her in Polblado. I took her one other time but this time she did not stay. I guess she did not like my cooking.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2465334]FYI. Knowledge and PolloNegro. The Admins will be kicking you off this site. No food porn! That only belongs in the darkest furthest corner of the Dark Web.

But I believe in balance in the world so I promptly compensated with this fake boob girl.[/QUOTE]Seems like you're having a better time already.

The fake boob lady looks good! Any more details? Where did you meet her?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2465540]Ok, I call bullshit, BUT.

This is clearly making the rounds on FB / WhatsApp, if Wifey is sending it to me.

32-page federal decree (listed as Decreto 990), stating July 16 - August 1 isolation lock-down for all citizens.

I attached screenshots of the first and last couple of pages, along with the line simplifying it.

I hope this is fake, but who knows. I'll let some of you other guys do the investigation, and you just let me know how much I need to get at Carulla, next time I go![/QUOTE]Good God. I better get to work finding a live-in, love-in Maid.

Presidential decree number 990 is real however you described its provisions very inaccurately. The decree extends the government's emergency powers to August. More importantly, it also established control measures based on the level of infections in each municipality. The measures are not new. Among them are pico why cedula, genero etc, lockdown of people 70 and older and all the others that have been around since March. In cities where the infection rate is judged to be sufficiently low, there will be fewer restrictions and more new permissions such as church services, restaurants, and the end of curfews. In cities or departments where the rate is judged to be too high (I. E. Parts of Bogota, Cordoba, Atlantico, Amazonas etc.) the restrictions will be maintained or hardened. Up to and including 24/7 lockdown.

Earlier this morning Mayor Daniel Quintero knocked down a rumor that discotecas would be allowed to open. He sent out a tweet that said it's not going to happen and neither will there be a pilot program. I haven't checked this evening but I did not see anything new from the Mayor's office as of late this afternoon. I know it's tedious but we are all better off reading the decrees or at least reputable news sources because many Colombians don't sweat the details but enjoy spreading rumors. It is why pyramid schemes and other scams are so rampant here. Just to be clear, when I say "reputable news source" I am not referring to facebook.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2465540]Ok, I call bullshit, BUT.

This is clearly making the rounds on FB / WhatsApp, if Wifey is sending it to me.

32-page federal decree (listed as Decreto 990), stating July 16 - August 1 isolation lock-down for all citizens.

I attached screenshots of the first and last couple of pages, along with the line simplifying it.

I hope this is fake, but who knows. I'll let some of you other guys do the investigation, and you just let me know how much I need to get at Carulla, next time I go![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2465540]Ok, I call bullshit, BUT.

This is clearly making the rounds on FB / WhatsApp, if Wifey is sending it to me.

32-page federal decree (listed as Decreto 990), stating July 16 - August 1 isolation lock-down for all citizens.

I attached screenshots of the first and last couple of pages, along with the line simplifying it.

I hope this is fake, but who knows. I'll let some of you other guys do the investigation, and you just let me know how much I need to get at Carulla, next time I go![/QUOTE]What? I just brought a one way ticket to Medellin on 9/1 today. I will be extremely pissed if they fucking extend border closure beyond September 1st.

Hey guys,

Just saying Hello, been reading the board the last few days and trying to get the lay of the land for Medellin. I am hoping to get down there which I guess is probably in 2021 at this point. I am very well versed in the US Strip Club scene from NC to FL and having fun and extras. I have never been out of the US really but have wanted to go to Colombia among other places in Latin America. I work with a guy who went there last year and he has been everywhere and said it was one of his favorite places, though he is not a hobbyist as far as I know.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2465284]So, 300 k well-spent, if you ask me. I think a threesome with her and Wifey would be amazing. Wifey would have her cumming in 30 seconds. She would also, hopefully, teach Wifey a thing or two about head game and fucking, and maybe even sensuality. We'll see...
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Great report. I think she's got a banging body, nice find!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2465478]That is a little unfair to backpackers. Those guys are neither in that general age range nor do they appear to as concerned with personal care. Bless their scruffy souls.[/QUOTE]I don't know, I saw a very scruffy Euro looking hippy couple with backpacks actually sleeping in a doorway in Centro, I assume they woke up dead or missing everything. LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2465541]I remember years back when Mayorista was a great place to hunt.

I met some Mansion guys who when they found out I was staying at Franks Place they wanted to check it out. After I gave them the tour as we were walking down the strip they said look there is Demi Moore (Geraldine). I had heard about her but never met her. While they started to talk to her I said I better not let this slip by. In a break in the conversation I asked her { tu trabajando } she said si.

I asked her how much and she said 30 K. Off to the room and she stayed till the next morning. I gave her 50 K for that amount of time even though we had agreed on 30 K. I think she stayed so long because I let her use my laptop and fed her breakfast and lunch. It sure was not me being a great lover. Funny after that we became friends and I one time sent her a guy who paid 150 K to meet her in Polblado. I took her one other time but this time she did not stay. I guess she did not like my cooking.[/QUOTE]Oh I too have a few Mayorista stories that I could share. My first visit there was about 2004 and did not partake then but in subsequent years probably have picked up about 10 chicas but over a course of about 4 years so I don't frequent the place but when I do it can be fruitful.

I was last there before the CV this was back in mid January and hope it returns / opens up in earnest again. Always like to sit at a table with my Colombian buddy and have a beer and check out the scene.

Now this afternoon I spent 4 hours in Botero / Vera area, yes saw those 2 grungy sloppy gringos as discussed in the video link posted below, shaking my head why they are there every day as I never see them picking up any chicas.

As I walked by them I payed particular attention to their faces and my gawd up close they both look like they have been 5 pack a day smokers for 50 years and alcoholic blood stained eyes, their skin looks like they have lived a hard life yes you can almost mistaken them for a homeless drug addict that lives under a bridge matter-of-fact I have seen cleaner and better groomed homeless drug addicts than these 2, hehehehe.

I am no spring chicken either but I care for my dress, grooming, mindful of my diet and weight and am clean cut always with great smelling cologne.

So in Botero and the Vera today being a Friday there was a good selection of chicas, some new faces that I have never seen before including the 18 yo paisa that I scopued up in the side street to the vera, took my car to the Palmetto hotel 2 blocks north and spent and hour plus in the room for some good pounding. Just wanted something new and she fit the bill so all in all was good, not great but good, don't know if I would repeat as there are others that I have my eye on.

Thanks god it's Friday!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2465541]I remember years back when Mayorista was a great place to hunt.

I met some Mansion guys who when they found out I was staying at Franks Place they wanted to check it out. After I gave them the tour as we were walking down the strip they said look there is Demi Moore (Geraldine). I had heard about her but never met her. While they started to talk to her I said I better not let this slip by. In a break in the conversation I asked her { tu trabajando } she said si.

I asked her how much and she said 30 K. Off to the room and she stayed till the next morning. I gave her 50 K for that amount of time even though we had agreed on 30 K. I think she stayed so long because I let her use my laptop and fed her breakfast and lunch. It sure was not me being a great lover. Funny after that we became friends and I one time sent her a guy who paid 150 K to meet her in Polblado. I took her one other time but this time she did not stay. I guess she did not like my cooking.[/QUOTE]No argument from me. I've got a current Mayorista girl in my Facebook. I've also got at least one El Centro girl.

Let me tell you upfront that I am no expert compared to the other experienced members of the board. Based on my limited experience, I think the chicas quote and accept different prices.

My experience from couple of years ago when I first came to Medellin. I didn't know anything, no Spanish, didn't hear of this board, basically zero. I was on SA, so I was messaging some girls on there to see if I can find someone to hook up. My limiting criteria was that they speak English.

Chica 1, was a psychology student, part-time bar waitresses. I asked her to stay with me for 7 days. I quoted 500 USD. She said she will stay with me for 5 days, but my leave for a few hours during the day for classes etc. I said fine. Then she comes back and says, how much if I stay seven days. I said it is still the same amount, as that's my budget. So we agreed for 7 days 500 USD. This was about two weeks before I left for Medellin. Then she asked me to send her some money upfront to buy some things. I sent her 100 USD, thinking I would just deduct that from the money I was going to give her in Medellin. Anyway, I arrive in Medellin and get checked into the Airbnb and the chica shows up in the evening. We go out to dinner, buy booze and drink in the apartment, she basically wifed up. After about 3 days she was going out to class and asked me for some money, and I gave her 300 mil cop. Then after 5 days when she was leaving, I gave her another 200 mil cop. I probably paid about another 50 mil for taxies etc. Total for 5 days 870 mil cop at the prevailing exchange rate. So the rate went down by 50% almost, without even talking about it. I know it is still a bit high based my current knowledge, but I think I did pretty well for my level of experience back then.

I was also talking to another SA girl before I left for Medellin. She is an Instagram model, was a civil engineering student, and worked in tech support call center. My pre arrival rate she quoted was 300 USD per day, but she wouldn't spend the night. That was too much for me so I didn't commit to her. Just been messaging her on and off. After the first chica left after 5 days, I saw a message from this Instagram chica and messaged her in the morning about 10 am to see if she wanted to meet up. She said she could come at 11,30 am and can stay till 4 pm. I asked her how much, and she now quoted 300 mil cop. I said 200 mil cop and she agreed. This chicks was hotter than the other one, had better firm shapely see cup boobs, great ass, nice make up etc. But it was a struggle to do her. Initially she wouldn't kiss, gave me a hard time getting her naked etc. Wouldn't suck dick, wouldn't let me do oral etc. Finally got her naked, on the bed, lifted and pushed her legs back up, and fucked her standing at the edge of the bed. I think I was frustrated with her and basically grudge fucked her, without nutting for a long time. I think her body I would give a 9, but attitude and technique less than 1.

So, wild swing in the prices, by the same chicas, different days and, being in Medellin vs USA. So not sure what goes into their pricing decisions, but there is variance.

The first chick face with makeup a 8, and without makeup a 6. The Instagram model face with makeup is a 9 but without makeup a 3. So there is that. LOL.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2465145]I had that happen a few weeks ago. Not sure why. I speculate that I somehow triggered something that got me featured on the "friend suggestion" list for a lot of chicas. It seems to happen on occasion.

Interesting thing about "friend suggestions" - I look at them regularly. Sometimes I will see a girl on the list and she never re-appears. Other times a particularly will show up for days. I am not quite sure how Facebook has designed that feature to work.[/QUOTE]Not knowing how it works is frightening because I want to avoid Facebook suggesting my mongering profile to my family and friends.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2465664]Not knowing how it works is frightening because I want to avoid Facebook suggesting my mongering profile to my family and friends.[/QUOTE]LOL you would def. Want to make a burner / fake FB account for your naughty shit. Hope you're not stupid enough to mix family, friends, and "Business" on FB.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2465327]The ATM offered withdrawal selections of 1,540,000 and 2,000,000 COP. In the past the max was always 400,000 in Medellin, Cucuta, Bogota, Cartagena, and my first month in Barranquilla. This is a huge jump. I chose 400,000 but had a bad feeling so jerked out my card. Received a TRANSACTION ERROR and a print out ticket saying error no money paid. But money was deducted from my Schwab account. Schwab denied the claim even though tI sent picture of receipt with none payment. I called and explained this is a slam dunk. Look at your own description. All my withdrawals have format of:

Calle 53 No 46-192, Bar be / QUILL.

Carrera 51 # 50-26 MEDELLI.

Calle 28 No. 13 A - 17 Bogota.

Except this one that ripped me off:

Davivienda Davi be / QUILL 0800100 be / QUIL.

I thought it was a skimmer or something because it was during the weekend. Weeks later I tried again. Same high amount. Went to 3 banks and all the same high amounts offered. Fine I selected my regular 400,000. During processing (counting) (but no noise) I receive the Error screen and no money. Same description on my Schwab account. Schwab finally paid both.

Arrive at Medellin bus station I try again and the same high amounts offered so I walked away. Never use Davivienda again! Now use BBVA with no fees. Highest withdrawal is 600,000.[/QUOTE]Had a similar thing happen to me in Colombia.

I was in Barranquilla and went to the ATM around the corner from the 4-Points Marriott. It was a bank of three from Bancolombia. First time it didn't give me cash and errored out. I didn't see anything like the 1,400,000. I usually use an amount like 290,000 because the 90 k comes out in small bills instead of three 100 k notes. Sometimes the machine is out of the small notes and I don't get the cash. So I tried again with 300 k. That didn't work. So I tried the one next to it for 300 k and that didn't work.

I get notifiications on my watch and phone on for all my Schwab ATM transactions. And alas, I got three for those. I went down the street to another one.

I had a similar thing with Bancolomia a few years ago, and the non-honored transactions all reversed themselves. So I waited a week or so, and when that didn't happen, I called Schwab and got the cash back for all three. It was quite confusing for them because they thought it was only one transaction because all three looked so much the same. Reminds me I need to check if all three came back. If it was a skimmer, they sure work fast. Also, never use BanColombia!

Two months later, after hearing reports of skimmers, I decided to only use ATMs inside minimarts. Used one, and somehow forgot to take my card. 30 minutes later I get a notifcation on my watch about a $300 VISA transaction with my Schwab card. FUCK! Look in my wallet, no Schwab card. Call immediately, and while I'm on the phone, another $200 transaction. Got all that money back. Love the banks! .

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2465541]I remember years back when Mayorista was a great place to hunt.

I met some Mansion guys who when they found out I was staying at Franks Place they wanted to check it out. After I gave them the tour as we were walking down the strip they said look there is Demi Moore (Geraldine). I had heard about her but never met her. While they started to talk to her I said I better not let this slip by. In a break in the conversation I asked her { tu trabajando } she said si.

I asked her how much and she said 30 K. Off to the room and she stayed till the next morning. I gave her 50 K for that amount of time even though we had agreed on 30 K. I think she stayed so long because I let her use my laptop and fed her breakfast and lunch. It sure was not me being a great lover. Funny after that we became friends and I one time sent her a guy who paid 150 K to meet her in Polblado. I took her one other time but this time she did not stay. I guess she did not like my cooking.[/QUOTE]Geraldine in Mayortista? Talk about a trip down memory lane. When did you have this encounter, 2007?

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2465605]I don't know, I saw a very scruffy Euro looking hippy couple with backpacks actually sleeping in a doorway in Centro, I assume they woke up dead or missing everything. LOL.[/QUOTE]Some years ago I saw a hippy couple sleeping on a sidewalk in El Centro using their backpacks as pillows. I have nothing but love for those people.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2465633]Let me tell you upfront that I am no expert compared to the other experienced members of the board. Based on my limited experience, I think the chicas quote and accept different prices.

My experience from couple of years ago when I first came to Medellin. I didn't know anything, no Spanish, didn't hear of this board, basically zero. I was on SA, so I was messaging some girls on there to see if I can find someone to hook up. My limiting criteria was that they speak English.

Chica 1, was a psychology student, part-time bar waitresses. I asked her to stay with me for 7 days. I quoted 500 USD. She said she will stay with me for 5 days, but my leave for a few hours during the day for classes etc. I said fine. Then she comes back and says, how much if I stay seven days. I said it is still the same amount, as that's my budget. So we agreed for 7 days 500 USD. This was about two weeks before I left for Medellin. Then she asked me to send her some money upfront to buy some things. I sent her 100 USD, thinking I would just deduct that from the money I was going to give her in Medellin. Anyway, I arrive in Medellin and get checked into the Airbnb and the chica shows up in the evening. We go out to dinner, buy booze and drink in the apartment, she basically wifed up. After about 3 days she was going out to class and asked me for some money, and I gave her 300 mil cop. Then after 5 days when she was leaving, I gave her another 200 mil cop. I probably paid about another 50 mil for taxies etc. Total for 5 days 870 mil cop at the prevailing exchange rate. So the rate went down by 50% almost, without even talking about it. I know it is still a bit high based my current knowledge, but I think I did pretty well for my level of experience back then.[/QUOTE]Prices May Vary.

I've had a chica who told me she would never take less than 250 k, do a friend for 150 k and then several weeks later do me for 90 k.

If a Veracruz girl gets pulled to Gusto with a friend, she'll be asking $200 all night. If a Gusto girl gets pulled to Veracruz by a friend she'll be taking 50 k all day.

If you catch either girl on the metro and talk them up, you can get them for whatever price you want.

In the end, you find what you want, where you want, when you want, for the price you want and don't worry if someone else is paying more or less for the same thing.

I just saw last night they gov of Bogota ordered a strict quarentine in Bogota until Aug 23. IMO this means that there is no way they are going to open up their borders for international flights on Sept 1st. I am super sad since I want to see my 27 yo friend in Bogota ASAP or meet her someplace.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465574]What? I just brought a one way ticket to Medellin on 9/1 today. I will be extremely pissed if they fucking extend border closure beyond September 1st.[/QUOTE]Sept 1 was always tenuous. They don't have control of the virus and we certainly don't in the states. And of course the fact that the airlines will take your money means nothing. But the Dominican Republic is open to US tourists right now, and with no quarantines. That of course might change.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2465769]I just saw last night they gov of Bogota ordered a strict quarentine in Bogota until Aug 23. IMO this means that there is no way they are going to open up their borders for international flights on Sept 1st. I am super sad since I want to see my 27 yo friend in Bogota ASAP or meet her someplace.[/QUOTE]You say you are sad. I am sure you are bored. Soon you will be depressed. Not suicidal but many people have different breaking points with far more serious problems that they are facing. Thank you for backing up my "beliefs" with no studies done. Common scene? I bet your head hurts now. You just made my day. Thank you much.

OK, thanks for your opinion and I'm sorry you are sad. What are the guys in the Bogota thread saying about your Bogota opinion? Do you have any views about Medellin? It also receives international flights.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2465769]I just saw last night they gov of Bogota ordered a strict quarentine in Bogota until Aug 23. IMO this means that there is no way they are going to open up their borders for international flights on Sept 1st. I am super sad since I want to see my 27 yo friend in Bogota ASAP or meet her someplace.[/QUOTE]

We've seen many Venezuelan families "sleeping rough" the past few years. More recently than ever because of the quarantine. San Diego has become a bit of a Little Caracas because of the ultra low cost housing on Arteria and next to no enforcement of construction and occupancy codes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2465729]Some years ago I saw a hippy couple sleeping on a sidewalk in El Centro using their backpacks as pillows. I have nothing but love for those people.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2465769]I just saw last night they gov of Bogota ordered a strict quarentine in Bogota until Aug 23. IMO this means that there is no way they are going to open up their borders for international flights on Sept 1st. I am super sad since I want to see my 27 yo friend in Bogota ASAP or meet her someplace.[/QUOTE]There may not be mass tourism here for awhile. The DR and other places are open now for tourism.

It could happen. The situation is evolving. So far there is no change to plans to resume international flights. There has been progress with preparations to resume national flights. Stand by and keep an eye on the government web sites but beware of rumors and misinterpreted second hand reports.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465574]What? I just brought a one way ticket to Medellin on 9/1 today. I will be extremely pissed if they fucking extend border closure beyond September 1st.[/QUOTE]

Wifey was gone all day, with her mom, as they were taking her little brother for standard tests & a check-up. She was coming off her period, and told me she was very horny. She had messaged some chica on Instagram that I showed her, who I had sessioned with a couple years back. Flaquita, gear head, typical Paisa prepago type, speaks a little English. Caught me off-guard, but you have to admire the effort. Anyway, I also proposed the chica from the other night, the 24 yo who offered free service mas taxis.

So, this is the breakdown after an hour of conversation: IG chica isn't discussed at all, Bailarina finally responds and says even though she had a great time with us, 300 k is not much for her. Bueno entendido. She apparently told Wifey the same thing. Freebie says we didn't discuss a trio, although we kind of had, and that it's free if it's just the two of us, but would cost me for a trio. She wants to just spend time with me. She also said she had work from 7a - 3p today, and until 8p last night. She offered to come over last night but it would be late after going home to organize herself, and she'd need to bring her laptop to work today. So, she said tonight would be better. She wanted to know immediately. It was kind of a strange Paisa thing. I kept delaying, and then once the trio part came up, the conversation quickly fizzled. Thus, Wifey did her thing, showed me a cute blonde, and that was that. She arrived about 9p for the 830p cita. Skinny, pretty good looking, even though I don't normally like blondes.

Jacuzzi, drinks, etc. We eventually go to the bedroom and this chick is tripping off the tussi. She is opening this cabinet that has all the modem, router, etc. She is playing with some access point thing because it has a red light. She's asking about the lights on the ceiling, about the blinds, about everything. Super weird. She wants to go downstairs. So, we finally just go downstairs. She then doesn't want to go to the bedroom, she wants to stay on the couch in the living room, and says she doesn't like enclosed spaces. This couch is just the 3-seater straight leather couch. Terrible place for a threesome. She finally snaps out of it and I suggest let's hit the reset and go to the jacuzzi.

Round 2 is great. Her body is like liquid. I was calling her serpiente. She can get into all these amazing positions, effortlessly. I asked her if she could put her leg behind her head and bam, yep. So, I am banging her from behind, and she is going down on Wifey. She is bent and curved in all the right ways and angles. It was great. Eventually, condom off and I'm banging Wifey as she's returning the favor. I decided to pull out and cum on serpentiente's face. When I went to go get a wet wipe for her, I look and she has a HUGE load all over her mouth, chin, and chest. I was shocked. I guess it had been a few days. Wow, I've never seen a load like this. I did just re-stock on some vitamins & supplements from the stand outside Exito Wow, but damn.

Round 3 was also nice.

She left around 3a. 200 k + taxis (Robledo).

I believe I mentioned it, but for those that like to give gifts, or guys that plan to rent a place with a jacuzzi, I highly-recommend this local company. You can find them on Instagram at dluchiswimwear. Some sexy little bikinis that the girls love. I just found out about it when the Bailarina wore one and then Wifey used it for the next trio. I bought 3 bikinis for Wifey for a total of 142 k, I believe. She LOVES them, and they are sexy. You message on Instagram, then chat on WhatsApp, they deliver same-day. I get nothing from this. Just a recommendation. I usually buy a cheap bikini or two before I leave the US, to have on-hand as a gift, or for the odd pull that doesn't have a bikini and it becomes an issue. Wifey was looking delicious in one of her's, last night.

Cheers.

I've seen those guys pick up girls in the plaza.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465609]Oh I too have a few Mayorista stories that I could share. My first visit there was about 2004 and did not partake then but in subsequent years probably have picked up about 10 chicas but over a course of about 4 years so I don't frequent the place but when I do it can be fruitful.

I was last there before the CV this was back in mid January and hope it returns / opens up in earnest again. Always like to sit at a table with my Colombian buddy and have a beer and check out the scene.

Now this afternoon I spent 4 hours in Botero / Vera area, yes saw those 2 grungy sloppy gringos as discussed in the video link posted below, shaking my head why they are there every day as I never see them picking up any chicas.

As I walked by them I payed particular attention to their faces and my gawd up close they both look like they have been 5 pack a day smokers for 50 years and alcoholic blood stained eyes, their skin looks like they have lived a hard life yes you can almost mistaken them for a homeless drug addict that lives under a bridge matter-of-fact I have seen cleaner and better groomed homeless drug addicts than these 2, hehehehe.

I am no spring chicken either but I care for my dress, grooming, mindful of my diet and weight and am clean cut always with great smelling cologne..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2465571]Presidential decree number 990 is real however you described its provisions very inaccurately. The decree extends the government's emergency powers to August. More importantly, it also established control measures based on the level of infections in each municipality. The measures are not new. Among them are pico why cedula, genero etc, lockdown of people 70 and older and all the others that have been around since March. In cities where the infection rate is judged to be sufficiently low, there will be fewer restrictions and more new permissions such as church services, restaurants, and the end of curfews. In cities or departments where the rate is judged to be too high (I. E. Parts of Bogota, Cordoba, Atlantico, Amazonas etc.) the restrictions will be maintained or hardened. Up to and including 24/7 lockdown.

Earlier this morning Mayor Daniel Quintero knocked down a rumor that discotecas would be allowed to open. He sent out a tweet that said it's not going to happen and neither will there be a pilot program. I haven't checked this evening but I did not see anything new from the Mayor's office as of late this afternoon. I know it's tedious but we are all better off reading the decrees or at least reputable news sources because many Colombians don't sweat the details but enjoy spreading rumors. It is why pyramid schemes and other scams are so rampant here. Just to be clear, when I say "reputable news source" I am not referring to facebook.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Knowledge, I knew you'd come through LOL.

I have a quick add-on for the ATM discussion, and I don't mean ass-to-mouth. I like using the ScotiaBank ATM upstairs outside Exito Wow in Poblado. It dispenses up to 900 k. I had my BofA CC blocked, the other day. Meanwhile, my BofA debit worked like a charm. I was trying to pull out 1. 800.000 to have on-hand, just for whatever reason. Who knows. Maybe for a corona test, maybe for 3 chicks, maybe for the portero to pull a chica out of the hot tub. BofA gives me some bullshit lecture about swiping the card, and that because of fraud, etc. , I should try to refrain from swiping it. It's a fucking ATM and my debit card (also from Visa / BofA) just worked 30 seconds earlier. IDK. I reminded them I'm traveling, and just went on with my day. I'll see if there's an issue next time.

Oh, blondie / serpiente might be on SA, based on what Wifey said. I don't know if I've seen her on there.

[QUOTE=Balimassage;2465693]LOL you would def. Want to make a burner / fake FB account for your naughty shit. Hope you're not stupid enough to mix family, friends, and "Business" on FB.[/QUOTE]Making a fake / burner Facebook account isn't as easy as it used to be.

[QUOTE=Combo;2465816]Making a fake / burner Facebook account isn't as easy as it used to be.[/QUOTE]You can message back and forth with anyone on Facebook without actually friending them. No need to add them to your friends list at all. Just message with them on facebook messenger if they don't have whatsapp.

It is not very difficult but it is not nearly as effective as it used to be. Facebook mines your e-mail and mobile phone contacts and use them to feed friend "suggestions" to you and all your contacts on any account you access regularly from the same devices. The result is your friends and family will slowly but steadily begin receiving information on their facebook timelines about people and places associated with the so-called burner account. Facebook also sends you friend requests and updates you could mistakenly click when you wrongly assume you are seeing them because you are logged into the burner account. If you pay close attention amd take extra precautions you can avoid undesirable results. Everybody has to decide how useful or valuable the Facebook scene is for themselves.

[QUOTE=Combo;2465816]Making a fake / burner Facebook account isn't as easy as it used to be.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2465816]Making a fake / burner Facebook account isn't as easy as it used to be.[/QUOTE]That's true, and apparently that they use location / device / Wifi to match accounts, which could lead to them suggesting the wrong account to friends / family.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2465769]I just saw last night they gov of Bogota ordered a strict quarentine in Bogota until Aug 23. IMO this means that there is no way they are going to open up their borders for international flights on Sept 1st. I am super sad since I want to see my 27 yo friend in Bogota ASAP or meet her someplace.[/QUOTE]Man, this is very depressing. Many of my friends in both the US and Colombia believe that Columbia can not afford to remain shutdown beyond September. Costa Rica will open in August while the cases there are on the raise, I think Costa Rica's reopening will foreshadow Colombia.

I'm just curious, I have brought September 1st flight ticket to Medellin from the US, the very first flight out of the country. If the government extends the border closure, does that mean the flight is automatically canceled or will they still fly me to Medellin and then give me a denied entry. I'm wondering if I get to the border custom, what are the chances of negotiating with the border officer at the airport to convince them to let me through, I'm willing to offer something to make it worth their well.

I'm not trolling here, I have bribed custom officers in Kenya and was asked money by officials in Russia and India. In some part of the world, if you missed a few required vaccinations to enter the country, 40-100 dollars will do the trick, what's the bribing culture like in Medellin?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]I'm not trolling here, I have bribed custom officers in Kenya and was asked money by officials in Russia and India. In some part of the world, if you missed a few required vaccinations to enter the country, 40-100 dollars will do the trick, what's the bribing culture like in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Ahem! Best be very careful! If policeman solicits a bribe; you have your chance, but if you get told you don't have the right documentation or the right prerequisites and YOU Solicit the bribe. You might get lucky and you might spend a bit of time in a cell. Some policemen are very proud and would no more take a bribe than a priest would make a bargain for his soul.

A couple of hours ago Mayor Quintero imposed a 14 day 24/7 quarantine on Centro that will begin July 13. He justified it by stating Medellin is "approaching the infection peak" and officials have to be careful. Approaching the peak means whatever he wants it to mean since he and other local officials have emergency powers authorized by the President. Quintero went on to say the quarantine will be like the one in March. You can all read my posts for details about what that was like. Along with anything that is not a supermarket or pharmacy all the casas will have to shut down and give employees a two week unpaid vacation. This will kill businesses that were barely holding on. It will be a bonus for the Laureles apartments.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2465802]Thank you, Knowledge, I knew you'd come through LOL.

I have a quick add-on for the ATM discussion, and I don't mean ass-to-mouth. I like using the ScotiaBank ATM upstairs outside Exito Wow in Poblado. It dispenses up to 900 k. I had my BofA CC blocked, the other day. Meanwhile, my BofA debit worked like a charm. I was trying to pull out 1. 800.000 to have on-hand, just for whatever reason. Who knows. Maybe for a corona test, maybe for 3 chicks, maybe for the portero to pull a chica out of the hot tub. BofA gives me some bullshit lecture about swiping the card, and that because of fraud, etc. , I should try to refrain from swiping it. It's a fucking ATM and my debit card (also from Visa / BofA) just worked 30 seconds earlier. IDK. I reminded them I'm traveling, and just went on with my day. I'll see if there's an issue next time.

Oh, blondie / serpiente might be on SA, based on what Wifey said. I don't know if I've seen her on there.[/QUOTE]

Apparently the mayor of Medellin announced today a lock-down of sorts beginning on July 13 in El Centro for fifteen days, along with other parts of town. Pharmacies, banks, and other essential businesses will be open. So with exception of the pharmacy near the Veracruz Church, I don't know what will happen regarding the Love hotels in the area.

If the "ground zero" area is closed, and the lock down is enforced, it will be slim pickings.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2465780]Sept 1 was always tenuous. They don't have control of the virus and we certainly don't in the states. And of course the fact that the airlines will take your money means nothing. But the Dominican Republic is open to US tourists right now, and with no quarantines. That of course might change.[/QUOTE]I always wanted to visit the DR, If Medellin remain closed after 9/1 DR seems like a good option. In terms of mongering, Costa Rica is no match compare to Medellin. But judging from the DR thread, it seems comparable to Medellin.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]Man, this is very depressing. Many of my friends in both the US and Colombia believe that Columbia can not afford to remain shutdown beyond September. Costa Rica will open in August while the cases there are on the raise, I think Costa Rica's reopening will foreshadow Colombia.

I'm just curious, I have brought September 1st flight ticket to Medellin from the US, the very first flight out of the country. If the government extends the border closure, does that mean the flight is automatically canceled or will they still fly me to Medellin and then give me a denied entry. I'm wondering if I get to the border custom, what are the chances of negotiating with the border officer at the airport to convince them to let me through, I'm willing to offer something to make it worth their well.

I'm not trolling here, I have bribed custom officers in Kenya and was asked money by officials in Russia and India. In some part of the world, if you missed a few required vaccinations to enter the country, 40-100 dollars will do the trick, what's the bribing culture like in Medellin?[/QUOTE]You don't need to worry about attempting to bribe an immigration official, as there will be no airlines boarding passengers who will be denied entry upon arrival.

You really should step back and take a bigger look at the picture. If Colombia does open back up on September 1, I highly doubt people from the USA will be allowed in. Right now a USA Passport is pretty much useless for travel around the World. I could go on and on and on, on this one but will stay away from it.

As far as trying to bribe a Colombian immigration official, well you won't be having the opportunity to do so, and the thought of it is very foolish.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]Man, this is very depressing. Many of my friends in both the US and Colombia believe that Columbia can not afford to remain shutdown beyond September. Costa Rica will open in August while the cases there are on the raise, I think Costa Rica's reopening will foreshadow Colombia.

I'm just curious, I have brought September 1st flight ticket to Medellin from the US, the very first flight out of the country. If the government extends the border closure, does that mean the flight is automatically canceled or will they still fly me to Medellin and then give me a denied entry. I'm wondering if I get to the border custom, what are the chances of negotiating with the border officer at the airport to convince them to let me through, I'm willing to offer something to make it worth their well.

I'm not trolling here, I have bribed custom officers in Kenya and was asked money by officials in Russia and India. In some part of the world, if you missed a few required vaccinations to enter the country, 40-100 dollars will do the trick, what's the bribing culture like in Medellin?[/QUOTE]If Colombia is not allowing foreigners in, they will cancel the flight.

You should maybe look into trying to get to San Andreas island.

They used to have a direct flight from Canada, or maybe from Panama or another Central American city.

Then from there do your bribing to get in.

It's Colombian territory, however, they speak primarily english.

From there, if you can get in, it's a domestic hop to Colombia.

Just a thought off the top of my head.

I accept no liability, LOL.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]Man, this is very depressing. Many of my friends in both the US and Colombia believe that Columbia can not afford to remain shutdown beyond September. Costa Rica will open in August while the cases there are on the raise, I think Costa Rica's reopening will foreshadow Colombia.

I'm just curious, I have brought September 1st flight ticket to Medellin from the US, the very first flight out of the country. If the government extends the border closure, does that mean the flight is automatically canceled or will they still fly me to Medellin and then give me a denied entry. I'm wondering if I get to the border custom, what are the chances of negotiating with the border officer at the airport to convince them to let me through, I'm willing to offer something to make it worth their well.

I'm not trolling here, I have bribed custom officers in Kenya and was asked money by officials in Russia and India. In some part of the world, if you missed a few required vaccinations to enter the country, 40-100 dollars will do the trick, what's the bribing culture like in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I had a flight through spirit to leave September 1 and they canceled my flight. Unfortunately not looking good for September arrival.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]
I'm just curious, I have brought September 1st flight ticket to Medellin from the US, the very first flight out of the country. If the government extends the border closure, does that mean the flight is automatically canceled or will they still fly me to Medellin and then give me a denied entry. I'm wondering if I get to the border custom, what are the chances of negotiating with the border officer at the airport to convince them to let me through, I'm willing to offer something to make it worth their well.
[/QUOTE]If you think about it, there is really no good reason to close the border for so long. There are countries that with 0 or very few cases have their borders open to some visitors. The key is to require strict self quarantine for 14 days, and maybe require insurance so visitor do not become a burden to the country. This actually can spawn a whole new industry to help the economy. Quarantine doesn't work well if it is not strictly enforced. I think they are unable to enforce it so they keep adding extension.

Others may disagree, but I do not consider the DR to be anything like Colombia. Costa Rica was much better than it is now that things got more expensive. And, of course, when it was better (than current CR), it was mostly because of the Colombians and Nicas. The only thing better than Colombia now is Colombia 10-15 years ago when you had hardly any gringos and all the chicas you could want.

All that said, if I can't go to MDE, then I would go to CR or DR to get some pussy.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465873]I always wanted to visit the DR, If Medellin remain closed after 9/1 DR seems like a good option. In terms of mongering, Costa Rica is no match compare to Medellin. But judging from the DR thread, it seems comparable to Medellin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2465870]Apparently the mayor of Medellin announced today a lock-down of sorts beginning on July 13 in El Centro for fifteen days, along with other parts of town. Pharmacies, banks, and other essential businesses will be open. So with exception of the pharmacy near the Veracruz Church, I don't know what will happen regarding the Love hotels in the area.

If the "ground zero" area is closed, and the lock down is enforced, it will be slim pickings.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Knowledge;2465868]A couple of hours ago Mayor Quintero imposed a 14 day 24/7 quarantine on Centro that will begin July 13. He justified it by stating Medellin is "approaching the infection peak" and officials have to be careful. Approaching the peak means whatever he wants it to mean since he and other local officials have emergency powers authorized by the President. Quintero went on to say the quarantine will be like the one in March. You can all read my posts for details about what that was like. Along with anything that is not a supermarket or pharmacy all the casas will have to shut down and give employees a two week unpaid vacation. This will kill businesses that were barely holding on. It will be a bonus for the Laureles apartments.[/QUOTE]Damn I just read about this shut down starting Monday, this will affect everything just like it was in March through May, centro visits are gone for the next 2 weeks but potentially for another month or two. Glad I took advantage of the botero and vera pussy in the past month and as recently as yesterday and got some numbers of new chicas.

Tomorrow I will do some shopping and stock up again.

Guess I need to count my blessings as I always have my 18 yo Vennie who is still staying with me, hehehehe what started off as a 2 or maximum 3 weeks stay during the quarantine back in March has turned into almost 4 months already. She has a sweet pussy, perfect honest Bee cups, white soft skin, a perfect smile and when I catch her right she is a great lover, hehehehe.

So all just sit down and buckle up and hold on as this will not be over anytime soon.

The Tall Man.

In the case of Candelaria (El Centro) quarantine will be like March, total restriction on movement from this Monday and for two weeks, closure of trade (except supplies, pharmacies and essential items).

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]

I'm just curious, I have brought September 1st flight ticket to Medellin from the US, the very first flight out of the country. If the government extends the border closure, does that mean the flight is automatically canceled or will they still fly me to Medellin and then give me a denied entry. I'm wondering if I get to the border custom, what are the chances of negotiating with the border officer at the airport to convince them to let me through, I'm willing to offer something to make it worth their well.
[/QUOTE]Your airline would probably let you know if the border was still closed to commercial flights and / or tourism.

[QUOTE=UncleMonger;2465900]I had a flight through spirit to leave September 1 and they canceled my flight. Unfortunately not looking good for September arrival.[/QUOTE]I have a flight to the USA in September to do some shopping and visit some family there. My flight hasn't been canceled yet, so we shall see. I'm not planning to leave Colombia unless I am guaranteed a return flight either a commercial flight or a humanitarian flight back home.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2465908]Others may disagree, but I do not consider the DR to be anything like Colombia. [/QUOTE]I love the DR. One of the beauties of traveling is that destinations are different. Brazil, Thailand, Tijuana, Cuba, etc. All have something different.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465873]I always wanted to visit the DR, If Medellin remain closed after 9/1 DR seems like a good option. In terms of mongering, Costa Rica is no match compare to Medellin. But judging from the DR thread, it seems comparable to Medellin.[/QUOTE]I've had some great times in the DR, but it is very different from Medellin. If you stay in Santo Domingo, you might go crazy from all the street hustlers (though if you're willing to put up with the abuse, it's an excellent city for our hobby). Sosua is a nice little beach town, but it's well. Little. I think you'd find it very limited.

For a big spender like you, some of the organized sex vacation places would be a good bet.

[QUOTE=UncleMonger;2465900]I had a flight through spirit to leave September 1 and they canceled my flight. Unfortunately not looking good for September arrival.[/QUOTE]Hmm. That's odd, I just brought my spirit ticket from the US to Medellin yesterday, the departure time is very early morning on 9/1. I don't give a shit about the cost of the ticket, they are so cheap right now, it's not even worth the trouble to ask for a refund if the flight gets canceled, I just want to get back to Medellin and never come back to this hell hole called California.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2465878]You don't need to worry about attempting to bribe an immigration official, as there will be no airlines boarding passengers who will be denied entry upon arrival.

You really should step back and take a bigger look at the picture. If Colombia does open back up on September 1, I highly doubt people from the USA will be allowed in. Right now a USA Passport is pretty much useless for travel around the World. I could go on and on and on, on this one but will stay away from it.

As far as trying to bribe a Colombian immigration official, well you won't be having the opportunity to do so, and the thought of it is very foolish.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, repeatedly describing how dire and hopeless the current situation is for Americans is also foolish. When I run my company, I always encourage my employees to think outside of the box when facing a difficult problem, in challenging times, an outranges idea is better than a sad depiction of how things cannot be done.

The way I see it, if I can make it to the border of Colombia, I have a chance of getting in, regardless how I get there. If the US flight is canceled but the Canadian flight is open, I will hop to Canada is a heart beat. If I can manage to get on a plane to Medellin that only carries Colombia nationals on 9/1, I will do it. I don't need a fake passport to do it, I just need to be in the same boarding terminal and observe if there is an opportunity to sneak in, it must to a direct flight though, so I might have to go to Florida first. If the first attempt at the airport didn't work, I will take notes and analyze the situation, it's up to me to create the solution.

Everyday there are a ton of people sneaking in and out of the border regardless of the virus or trump's wall. Factually, we know this is a problem that is easier than landing a man on mars or inventing the time machine. I'm sure people can think of a million ways how I can fail, but I only need a single working approach. The world is overflowing with discouraging news, a little creative thinking won't do us much harm.

I went to Santo Domingo quite a while back. A street hustle named Mikey latched on to me. He was OK. He did find me some chicas, including chicas who worked in stores on the walking street. But he also found me this girl who was from somewhere else in my DR and she arrived with her suitcase! The sad thing was that the hotel eventually kicked her out later that day, so I had to go get her suitcase from my room. I did not know it, but the suitcase was not latched. That suitcase flew open in my room. And when it did, I was shocked at how little it carried. It was pretty sad. Too bad, she was a nice, sweet flaca. I would have kept her longer if I could have.

[QUOTE=Combo;2465924]I've had some great times in the DR, but it is very different from Medellin. If you stay in Santo Domingo, you might go crazy from all the street hustlers (though if you're willing to put up with the abuse, it's an excellent city for our hobby). Sosua is a nice little beach town, but it's well. Little. I think you'd find it very limited.

For a big spender like you, some of the organized sex vacation places would be a good bet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465873]But judging from the DR thread, it seems comparable to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Not in the least bit, but beggars can't be choosers (don't know why they can't). What in the DR thread makes them seem similar? There is nothing about one that reminds me of the other; not even the language, and it is supposedly the same. Medellin = New York, USA. DR = Pueblita, Mexico. Night and day. Medellin is a big ass city and has 38,059 posts here. Sosua is a small town that you can walk everywhere and has 2 traffic lights on the main highway and has 32,015 posts here; while the capital and biggest city Santo Domingo has not even half as many posts.

Airlines conduct document checks before they allow passengers to board international flights. Along with the normal passport and visa control, airlines will verify coronavirus nationality restriction.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2465916]Your airline would probably let you know if the border was still closed to commercial flights and / or tourism.[/QUOTE]

Spirit has daily flights between Ft. Lauderdale and Medellin beginning September 1. What is it that was cancelled for you and what information if any do you have about international flight authorization?

[QUOTE=UncleMonger;2465900]I had a flight through spirit to leave September 1 and they canceled my flight. Unfortunately not looking good for September arrival.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2465953]Not in the least bit, but beggars can't be choosers (don't know why they can't). What in the DR thread makes them seem similar? There is nothing about one that reminds me of the other; not even the language, and it is supposedly the same. Medellin = New York, USA. DR = Pueblita, Mexico. Night and day. Medellin is a big ass city and has 38,059 posts here. Sosua is a small town that you can walk everywhere and has 2 traffic lights on the main highway and has 32,015 posts here; while the capital and biggest city Santo Domingo has not even half as many posts.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the insight. I just gave a quick glance on the DR thread and did a roughly comparison of the number of posts there. Good to know that it is night and day difference compare to Medellin. I have been to Costa Rica many times, I don't consider the mongering scene in Costa Rica anywhere near Medellin. I guess I will focus my energy on how to make it through that damn border if it doesn't open in September.

I can help clear this up. In March the love hotels remained open. There were fewer girls. See my posts from March for photos and descriptions of what went on. I have doubts about whether the genie can be put back in the bottle for two weeks in Centro. It's gotten to the point that there is no rhyme or reason to the revolving restrictions. Ley seca, quarantine, curfew, pico why cedula odd and even, pico why cedula two numbers per day, curfew three day holiday weekends, it's a political show based on nothing more than test result projections. This is a minor inconvenience for punters but girls and small business owners are going to suffer greatly during the next couple of weeks. Restaurant owners were making final preparations to participate in reopening trials. Many of them borrowed big to fund changes they had to make to comply with the Health Ministry's new rules. With no warning they are now under orders to change course and stick to take out and delivery only. Meanwhile they have to keep paying rent and salaries. It will make it hard for some of these businesses to survive.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2465870]Apparently the mayor of Medellin announced today a lock-down of sorts beginning on July 13 in El Centro for fifteen days, along with other parts of town. Pharmacies, banks, and other essential businesses will be open. So with exception of the pharmacy near the Veracruz Church, I don't know what will happen regarding the Love hotels in the area.

If the "ground zero" area is closed, and the lock down is enforced, it will be slim pickings.[/QUOTE]

Haven't checked the board much due to lock down. If I can't fly there why tease myself. I read the last 10 pages though. So I'll get on with it. Let's suppose Medellin rely opens up flights again in September. From what I'm reading all the bars and clubs will be closed still. As a tourist, that sucks! I have hundreds if chicas there but enjoy "finding" new ones in a relaxed drinking environment. Does that even go on anymore or is that shipped sailed until God knows when. Whats the new environment shaping up to be like upon flights opening? And the million dollar question, if Colombia will take a year to recover and its not worth the trip immediately, where do you think will be the next city or country to take the reigns. I'm not into Asian women or 18 hour+ flights. Coming from Ohio. Any recommendations baring an American lock down.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]I'm wondering if I get to the border custom, what are the chances of negotiating with the border officer at the airport to convince them to let me through, I'm willing to offer something to make it worth their well.[/QUOTE]Man, my guess is that you would have very high chance to end up in prison if you try to bribe. Colombia is not the same as 30 years ago. What's more, you are speaking about the immigration officers at a major international airport, not a lonely post in the jungle between Colombia and Peru. I am trying to imagine the scenery at Medellin immigration with a "gringo" hinting he can pay a big amount of money to be let in, the face of the officer, and the next steps of the adventure.
I hope you will not want to try to demonstrate I am wrong.
By the way, when countries open the borders, the last country to be allowed will be USA. It is totally out of control there, and unfortunately things will not improve in a short time, unless very tight measures will be taken there. My guess is that it will not happen before hospitals will go over capacity and more people will have to suffer lack of assistance. Reality comes to knock at the door even to those who build a virtual personal world.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2465861]Ahem! Best be very careful! If policeman solicits a bribe; you have your chance, but if you get told you don't have the right documentation or the right prerequisites and YOU Solicit the bribe. You might get lucky and you might spend a bit of time in a cell. Some policemen are very proud and would no more take a bribe than a priest would make a bargain for his soul.[/QUOTE]I would add that attempting a bribe at the airport, at this time, might be a long shot anyway.

When they're letting everyone in and you're trying to get them to overlook something, the agent at the kiosk probably has the authority to make the call.

However, if nobody is allowed in, I doubt if the guy directing everyone to the isolation area, where they have to wait until the next outbound flight, has the authority to let one guy in. It would be rather obvious.

You've (SJobs) got the money to try another approach. Figure out what you need to either set up a co-location office for your company in Medellin, or to buy a party penthouse in Medellin. Either one and you can qualify for visa which after 5 years you can turn into a resident visa.

Once you've got your plan on paper, go to a Colombian Consulate. Explain why you need a special travel permit (without mentioning 18 year old pussy) and mention you understand you'll probably have to pay extra for the permit, pay for extra testing and quarantine.

I would think that's something you would want anyway. There are probably a few people who are looking to sell the penthouses that have sat empty for the past 4 months. You're obviously dedicated to spending as much time as possible in Medellin. Getting a 1 year visa and renewing it every year eliminates the risk you'll exceed your 180 day annual limit and be denied entry.

And when you're not using the Penthouse, you can rent it to Slapshot.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2466008]Man, my guess is that you would have very high chance to end up in prison if you try to bribe. Colombia is not the same as 30 years ago. What's more, you are speaking about the immigration officers at a major international airport, not a lonely post in the jungle between Colombia and Peru. I am trying to imagine the scenery at Medellin immigration with a "gringo" hinting he can pay a big amount of money to be let in, the face of the officer, and the next steps of the adventure.
I hope you will not want to try to demonstrate I am wrong.
By the way, when countries open the borders, the last country to be allowed will be USA. It is totally out of control there, and unfortunately things will not improve in a short time, unless very tight measures will be taken there. My guess is that it will not happen before hospitals will go over capacity and more people will have to suffer lack of assistance. Reality comes to knock at the door even to those who build a virtual personal world.[/QUOTE]Yes there are a lot of cases in the USA. The problem is that the USA does a lot more testing then most other countrys so of course there is more cases I think what is most important is the number of deaths. Then again even that is not that great of a way to figure out what is really going on as there have been reports of false claims concerning deaths due to financial concerns.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2465953]Not in the least bit, but beggars can't be choosers (don't know why they can't). What in the DR thread makes them seem similar? There is nothing about one that reminds me of the other; not even the language, and it is supposedly the same. Medellin = New York, USA. DR = Pueblita, Mexico. Night and day. Medellin is a big ass city and has 38,059 posts here. Sosua is a small town that you can walk everywhere and has 2 traffic lights on the main highway and has 32,015 posts here; while the capital and biggest city Santo Domingo has not even half as many posts.[/QUOTE]I don't know what the scene for high roller mongering would be like in the DR. Maybe in Santiago you could, with some local assistance, setup in a penthouse and cycle through a few different girls every night. It wouldn't be the same as Medellin, but might work.

As a direct comparison, it's Hunts Point vs Las Vegas.

As someone else suggested, if the sex vacation services in the DR are open for business, they might be an option. The only one I recall from my research was Club Fantasy Island in Boca Chica. If it's still in business I'd start there.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465850]I'm not trolling here, I have bribed custom officers in Kenya and was asked money by officials in Russia and India. In some part of the world, if you missed a few required vaccinations to enter the country, 40-100 dollars will do the trick, what's the bribing culture like in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I have low esteem and do not make friends easily. If you visit then I will know exactly where to find you for the next 6 months to 2 years. Please come soon!

If you are basing Colombia and the Dominican Republic based on number of posts. All I can say is "WOW! If you basing it on what you read then all I can say is "WOW! Again. Truly amazing you are.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2465915]In the case of Candelaria (El Centro) quarantine will be like March, total restriction on movement from this Monday and for two weeks, closure of trade (except supplies, pharmacies and essential items).[/QUOTE]Joy to the world I get to experience a lock down in Barranquilla and now Medellin. Just what I was hoping for. I like to try different food, places, and women. Not different ways to imprison me.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465942]With all due respect, repeatedly describing how dire and hopeless the current situation is for Americans is also foolish. When I run my company, I always encourage my employees to think outside of the box when facing a difficult problem, in challenging times, an outranges idea is better than a sad depiction of how things cannot be done.

The way I see it, if I can make it to the border of Colombia, I have a chance of getting in, regardless how I get there. If the US flight is canceled but the Canadian flight is open, I will hop to Canada is a heart beat. If I can manage to get on a plane to Medellin that only carries Colombia nationals on 9/1, I will do it. I don't need a fake passport to do it, I just need to be in the same boarding terminal and observe if there is an opportunity to sneak in, it must to a direct flight though, so I might have to go to Florida first. If the first attempt at the airport didn't work, I will take notes and analyze the situation, it's up to me to create the solution.

Everyday there are a ton of people sneaking in and out of the border regardless of the virus or trump's wall. Factually, we know this is a problem that is easier than landing a man on mars or inventing the time machine. I'm sure people can think of a million ways how I can fail, but I only need a single working approach. The world is overflowing with discouraging news, a little creative thinking won't do us much harm.[/QUOTE]You obviously sound successful, however sneaking into Countries is not in your wheelhouse unless you work for the CIA, and fraught with peril if attempted. I think you have a snowballs chance in hell in pulling this off.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2466056]

If you are basing Colombia and the Dominican Republic based on number of posts. All I can say is "WOW! [/QUOTE]I've lived in both countries for multiple years. I don't compare the 2 because they are different but one can have a great time in both.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2466036]I would add that attempting a bribe at the airport, at this time, might be a long shot anyway.

When they're letting everyone in and you're trying to get them to overlook something, the agent at the kiosk probably has the authority to make the call.

However, if nobody is allowed in, I doubt if the guy directing everyone to the isolation area, where they have to wait until the next outbound flight, has the authority to let one guy in. It would be rather obvious.

You've (SJobs) got the money to try another approach. Figure out what you need to either set up a co-location office for your company in Medellin, or to buy a party penthouse in Medellin. Either one and you can qualify for visa which after 5 years you can turn into a resident visa.

Once you've got your plan on paper, go to a Colombian Consulate. Explain why you need a special travel permit (without mentioning 18 year old pussy) and mention you understand you'll probably have to pay extra for the permit, pay for extra testing and quarantine..[/QUOTE]Technically speaking what your proposing is possible but might require a different approach to get him back to Medellin, I believe SJobs could obtain a resident's visa while in the United States which would probably allow him to enter the Country, however it would be complicated to do from the USA, and might take several months. He would not have to wait five years to obtain residency but would receive it immediately upon issuance, however he would need to make an investment, such as buying a Penthouse, it has to be at least 650 times the Colombian minimum wage to qualify or approximately $ 160,000 USD. He would also need to get this money into the Country, which is not a simple procedure as the money would need to be transferred thru a third party and documented with the Colombian government to obtain the residency permit. He would also need a Colombian attorney to prepare all the paperwork and also act as an escrow company for the real estate transaction as they don't exist in Colombia. The only glitch might be obtaining the Cedula, I don't know if Colombian embassy's issue those in the USA, as there is a requirement that it is obtained within a few weeks of obtaining the residency permit and is processed in Bogota.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2465995]Haven't checked the board much due to lock down. If I can't fly there why tease myself. I read the last 10 pages though. So I'll get on with it. Let's suppose Medellin rely opens up flights again in September. From what I'm reading all the bars and clubs will be closed still. As a tourist, that sucks! I have hundreds if chicas there but enjoy "finding" new ones in a relaxed drinking environment. Does that even go on anymore or is that shipped sailed until God knows when. Whats the new environment shaping up to be like upon flights opening? And the million dollar question, if Colombia will take a year to recover and its not worth the trip immediately, where do you think will be the next city or country to take the reigns. I'm not into Asian women or 18 hour+ flights. Coming from Ohio. Any recommendations baring an American lock down.[/QUOTE]Not sure what the border immigration situation is but the FKK clubs In Switzerland are open now. Not Medellin prices at a heart stopping USD $140/ half hour. But guaranteed slim pretty girls with guaranteed service including DFK and BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2466094]Not sure what the border immigration situation is but the FKK clubs In Switzerland are open now. Not Medellin prices at a heart stopping USD $140/ half hour. But guaranteed slim pretty girls with guaranteed service including DFK and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]I was in Zurich and spent 4 X as much at McDonalds. Everything there is expensive but people make good money.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2465963]Appreciate the insight. I just gave a quick glance on the DR thread and did a roughly comparison of the number of posts there. Good to know that it is night and day difference compare to Medellin. I have been to Costa Rica many times, I don't consider the mongering scene in Costa Rica anywhere near Medellin. I guess I will focus my energy on how to make it through that damn border if it doesn't open in September.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Orgasmico;2466088]I've lived in both countries for multiple years. I don't compare the 2 because they are different but one can have a great time in both.[/QUOTE]For reference I live in Medellin for 3 years but have made one 2 week trip to the DR both in the Sue and SD about 3 years ago, enjoyed my time in the DR but all in all it is different.

The biggest difference is the chicas, in the DR the vast majority are blacks, wait a moment The Tall Man loves black women and even here in Colombia will at times travel to other areas to get a taste of the black Colombians, so lots of love for them, here in Medellin you have such a range of color which makes it interesting for a guy like me.

Just know that in the DR the majority of mongers are in fact black gringos from the US, just my experience, in my hotel in the Sue it was about 80% black mongers, BUT they treated me this Tall White guy really cool, danced and partied side by side my gringo brothers, all in good fun and respect.

So as Orgasmico states yes you can have a good time in either location just subtle differences.

Now this being Sunday July the 12th and with the new restrictions being implemented for Colombia tomorrow I need to get my sorry-ass down to centro and get some numbers and see what I can find before the new restriction are imposed.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

Wifey got all excited, yesterday, as she got a message from a girl that ignored and blocked her, weeks ago. I guess her girlfriend took her phone and deleted everything. So, she agrees to come over, and shows up at 9 p. REALLY REALLY cute. Spinner, nose ring, tongue ring, nipple ring, tight little body, long long dark hair.

It was an overall fantastic night, with both chicas all over each other, sopping wet, orgasming non-stop. We had a lot of fun. Condom with the special friend, but I popped 3 x, and tried for a 4th. I had already banged Wifey in the afternoon, so there wasn't much left in the tank after Friday night and a pre-pop.

300 k and she we here from about 9p-2a. I went to bed, and when I woke up early this morning, Wifey comes walking down the hallway. She usually can't sleep and ends up cleaning or doing whatever to occupy the time. Well, she says the girl got in a fight with her girlfriend and came back. I had kind of been telling Wifey to be careful because I don't want to leave in September and read a story about how she got killed by some jealous ex-girlfriend. Wifey has had her eye on this girl for 10 months, since they met at a mutual friend's house, and vice versa. So, it made for an amazing night, but I'm hoping we can avoid the drama. Anyway, they're upstairs sleeping, as I type this. I have to imagine they went at it late into the morning, as I was sleeping.

So, any info on the lockdown? Will it be back to pico y cedula? Should I stock-up on groceries, today?

Pico and schedule never went away. It hasn't been enforced since late March but it likely will be again starting tomorrow. Rappi will still bring you anything you need but you would need to stock up on anything you must bring to the house personally. It is scheduled to last 2 weeks and applies to Centro only. I doubt you will notice it.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2466132]Wifey got all excited, yesterday, as she got a message from a girl that ignored and blocked her, weeks ago. I guess her girlfriend took her phone and deleted everything. So, she agrees to come over, and shows up at 9 p. REALLY REALLY cute. Spinner, nose ring, tongue ring, nipple ring, tight little body, long long dark hair.

It was an overall fantastic night, with both chicas all over each other, sopping wet, orgasming non-stop. We had a lot of fun. Condom with the special friend, but I popped 3 x, and tried for a 4th. I had already banged Wifey in the afternoon, so there wasn't much left in the tank after Friday night and a pre-pop.

300 k and she we here from about 9p-2a. I went to bed, and when I woke up early this morning, Wifey comes walking down the hallway. She usually can't sleep and ends up cleaning or doing whatever to occupy the time. Well, she says the girl got in a fight with her girlfriend and came back. I had kind of been telling Wifey to be careful because I don't want to leave in September and read a story about how she got killed by some jealous ex-girlfriend. Wifey has had her eye on this girl for 10 months, since they met at a mutual friend's house, and vice versa. So, it made for an amazing night, but I'm hoping we can avoid the drama.[/QUOTE]

Hi Tall man,

Based on your assessment it sounds like most of you Dominican experience is in Santo Domingo and Sosua. Am I wrong? You would find quite a bit more diversity among Dominicans and foreigners than what you described in places like San Jose de Ocoa, Constanza (large Japanese-Dominican community), Salcedo, Azua.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2466101]For reference I live in Medellin for 3 years but have made one 2 week trip to the DR both in the Sue and SD about 3 years ago, enjoyed my time in the DR but all in all it is different.

The biggest difference is the chicas, in the DR the vast majority are blacks, wait a moment The Tall Man loves black women and even here in Colombia will at times travel to other areas to get a taste of the black Colombians, so lots of love for them, here in Medellin you have such a range of color which makes it interesting for a guy like me.

Just know that in the DR the majority of mongers are in fact black gringos from the US, just my experience, in my hotel in the Sue it was about 80% black mongers, BUT they treated me this Tall White guy really cool, danced and partied side by side my gringo brothers, all in good fun and respect.

So as Orgasmico states yes you can have a good time in either location just subtle differences..[/QUOTE]

I say a lot of very ridiculous things on this site but wow, this discussion of bribing an immigration agent to get into Colombia is about as silly as it gets. The chance of even reaching a border which you are not authorized to cross is slim.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2466036]I would add that attempting a bribe at the airport, at this time, might be a long shot anyway.

When they're letting everyone in and you're trying to get them to overlook something, the agent at the kiosk probably has the authority to make the call.

However, if nobody is allowed in, I doubt if the guy directing everyone to the isolation area, where they have to wait until the next outbound flight, has the authority to let one guy in. It would be rather obvious.

You've (SJobs) got the money to try another approach. Figure out what you need to either set up a co-location office for your company in Medellin, or to buy a party penthouse in Medellin. Either one and you can qualify for visa which after 5 years you can turn into a resident visa.

Once you've got your plan on paper, go to a Colombian Consulate. Explain why you need a special travel permit (without mentioning 18 year old pussy) and mention you understand you'll probably have to pay extra for the permit, pay for extra testing and quarantine.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2466037]Yes there are a lot of cases in the USA. The problem is that the USA does a lot more testing then most other countrys so of course there is more cases I think what is most important is the number of deaths. Then again even that is not that great of a way to figure out what is really going on as there have been reports of false claims concerning deaths due to financial concerns.[/QUOTE]I'm going to disagree on these 2 points.

If testing was 100% random you would need to test roughly 30% of the population before you could have an increase in number of positive results due solely to the number of tests. Even then, the increase would be small.

Start with a control group of 100.33 are infected. For every 3 tests, you should average one positive. These are all completely random. As your pool of untested shrinks, sometimes you're finding more than 1 of every 3, sometimes less. So once you've got about a third tested, you've established a reasonable idea of what more tests will show. Assuming no new infections. Whether you test 15 or all 100 you'll get about the same answer.

However, testing isn't completely random. First priority, people with symptoms. Now let's go back to the 100.18 have symptoms, they get tested and with 18 tests you've found 18 of the 33.7 others have symptoms, but are negative. With 25 tests, you have 18 positive results, indicating 72 infected people. Another 15 get tested, because they've been around someone who was infected. You get 7 more positive results. Now you've identified 25 positive results with 40 tests, still giving you a potential 72 (72.5) infected people. Add in more testing and the numbers keep dropping, until, after 100 tests, you find only 33.

Testing more people, won't find more cases, unless there are more cases to be found.

As for the financial incentive, can someone please show me the money? I understand there have been claims that there's extra financial compensation for hospitals who are willing to claim every death is COVID-19, but I haven't seen anyone showing the money. If someone is paying huge bounties for falsifying death certificates, it should show up somewhere. And I say huge, because what happens when someone proves their family member didn't die from COVID-19? Not only is there a significant payout, but it opens the floodgates. Every COVID-19 death becomes a potential million dollar settlement. That's an enormous risk.

Where does the money come from? Of course the easily debunked conspiracy theory is that Medicare and Medicaid are paying it. There are 2 significant problems with that source. First, those payments would only apply to people who are on Medicare it Medicaid. It would be rather suspicious if every person on Medicare suddenly started dying from COVID-19.

The other, more significant problem is that means Trump's own people are, apparently with Trump's approval, spending money in order to make Trump look bad. I have trouble believing that.

Now to the debunking.

Back when COVID-19 started causing problems, the Kaiser Family Foundation was asked to estimate the cost of the disease. They went back through Medicare records to determine the average cost for treatment of diseases requiring similar treatment. What was the final bill? How much for ICU? How much for a ventilator? Then they published their findings.

On April 8, on the Fox News show "The Ingraham Angle", Sen. Scott Jensen (R-MN) was interviewed and made the claim of extra payments, using the KFF numbers. However, those aren't extra payments. Those are the estimated costs.

In addition, Medicare doesn't pay hospitals extra for deaths. "Patient didn't survive? Here's another $10,000 for your trouble. "

The number of positive cases can't double from increased random testing, unless the number of positive people has also doubled. The number of deaths is not because the Trump administration is trying to make the Trump administration look bad.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2466132]So, any info on the lockdown? Will it be back to pico y cedula? Should I stock-up on groceries, today?[/QUOTE]One of my chicas goes to school in Medellin but lives in another part of Antioquia. Where she is, there has been a shutdown of all nonessential business until July 31 and a restriction on all nonessential movement. I do not know if that covers all of Antioquia. She told me that there has been an outbreak of Corona (I think she may have been hit by the virus herself) and there are no hospital beds open in her area.

Whether this covers Medellin, I do not know. I am just passing it along.

Now she just said the president extended the lockdown until July 31.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466091]Technically speaking what your proposing is possible but might require a different approach to get him back to Medellin, I believe SJobs could obtain a resident's visa while in the United States which would probably allow him to enter the Country, however it would be complicated to do from the USA, and might take several months. He would not have to wait five years to obtain residency but would receive it immediately upon issuance, however he would need to make an investment, such as buying a Penthouse, it has to be at least 650 times the Colombian minimum wage to qualify or approximately $ 160,000 USD. He would also need to get this money into the Country, which is not a simple procedure as the money would need to be transferred thru a third party and documented with the Colombian government to obtain the residency permit. He would also need a Colombian attorney to prepare all the paperwork and also act as an escrow company for the real estate transaction as they don't exist in Colombia. The only glitch might be obtaining the Cedula, I don't know if Colombian embassy's issue those in the USA, as there is a requirement that it is obtained within a few weeks of obtaining the residency permit and is processed in Bogota.[/QUOTE]You have to get the cedula in Colombia, which can be done at any immigration office. Visas, other than extending the tourist visa require a trip to Bogota unless you get them at a Consulate.

Naturally, he's going to need to make the connections, bring in the lawyers and provide the money.

As far as the visas go, there are 2 distinct classes and several different types. The classes are Temporary and Permanent. To get a Permanent visa you have to hold a Temporary visa, without any breaks of more than 6 months for a period of 5 years. There might be some types of visa which only require 3 years. A permanent visa gives you the option of applying for citizenship. At least that's what I picked up when I was researching all of this.

A Temporary resident visa wouldn't qualify him for a repatriation flight, hence he would need to finagle a special travel permit. Most problems of this type can be overcome if you're willing to spend the money, and you have enough.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2466132]

So, any info on the lockdown? Will it be back to pico y cedula? Should I stock-up on groceries, today?[/QUOTE]Here is the new schedule.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2466037]I think what is most important is the number of deaths. Then again even that is not that great of a way to figure out what is really going on as there have been reports of false claims concerning deaths due to financial concerns.[/QUOTE]Just compare total number of deaths regardless if causes against historical data should yield a good estimate.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2466036]Getting a 1 year visa and renewing it every year eliminates the risk you'll exceed your 180 day annual limit and be denied entry.
[/QUOTE]The 180 day limit is mostly due to income tax. I would not stay at any countries for more than 180 days if I don't want to pay income tax in two countries with residency or not.

US citizens pay income tax regardless where they live. The only way to avoid paying is to stay out of US the whole tax year then you get some exemption and it depends on the source of income.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2465964] it's a political show based on nothing more than test result projections.[/QUOTE]I see that the number of deaths reported by Medellin Guru has increased many folds from just a couple of months ago and it is accelerating.

One way to look at it is that the government is guessing the future. Things probably won't change until the numbers gets better.

Always check Medellin gurus's sources. In the case I don't doubt it but it is a marketing web site that heavily motivated by revenue generation.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2466168]I see that the number of deaths reported by Medellin Guru has increased many folds from just a couple of months ago and it is accelerating.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2466152]You have to get the cedula in Colombia, which can be done at any immigration office. Visas, other than extending the tourist visa require a trip to Bogota unless you get them at a Consulate.

Naturally, he's going to need to make the connections, bring in the lawyers and provide the money.

As far as the visas go, there are 2 distinct classes and several different types. The classes are Temporary and Permanent. To get a Permanent visa you have to hold a Temporary visa, without any breaks of more than 6 months for a period of 5 years. There might be some types of visa which only require 3 years. A permanent visa gives you the option of applying for citizenship. At least that's what I picked up when I was researching all of this.

A Temporary resident visa wouldn't qualify him for a repatriation flight, hence he would need to finagle a special travel permit. Most problems of this type can be overcome if you're willing to spend the money, and you have enough.[/QUOTE]My post was about obtaining an "investors visa" which qualifies you for residency, and is good for five years and obtaining this type of visa does not require obtaining a temporary visa first, but making an investment. And to obtain the Cedula, your Passport needs to be sent to Bogota to obtain the Visa that they paste into your Passport (and you don't need to appear in person to do this), and with the visa than in your Passport you can obtain a Cedula at any immigration office.

As far as buying real estate in Colombia it's tricky, kind of like the wild west with no escrow or title companies, and lots of gringos get burned and duped in the process.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2466142]I say a lot of very ridiculous things on this site but wow, this discussion of bribing an immigration agent to get into Colombia is about as silly as it gets. The chance of even reaching a border which you are not authorized to cross is slim.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the Medellin Board, anything goes here, and it's all entertaining to say the least!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2466159]The 180 day limit is mostly due to income tax. I would not stay at any countries for more than 180 days if I don't want to pay income tax in two countries with residency or not.

US citizens pay income tax regardless where they live. The only way to avoid paying is to stay out of US the whole tax year then you get some exemption and it depends on the source of income.[/QUOTE]Regardless of the type of visa someone has in Colombia for a period greater than six months like a student visa, investor visa, retiree visa, if that person is in the Country more than 180 days they are considered a "tax resident" and are required to file in Colombia, albeit that doesn't mean they will owe any taxes. Lots of gringos living in Medellin don't file as they should, and the Colombian IRS which is DIAN are getting more sophisticated, and will eventually catch up to them with possible fines and non-renewal of their visas.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2466094]Not sure what the border immigration situation is but the FKK clubs In Switzerland are open now. Not Medellin prices at a heart stopping USD $140/ half hour. But guaranteed slim pretty girls with guaranteed service including DFK and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Man,

I miss the globe so much. I had so many amazing times there; in my opinion, the girls in the globe is hotter than Medellin. The cost there can reach ridiculous level, depending on how you like to party. Every girl will offer you coke for 100 dollars per gram, CIM is another 100, lesbian show is another 100 dollars. Two girls with a bit of coke, doing lesbian show and cum swapping for one hour ran my bill to 1100 dollars once. Probably the most I have ever paid for one hour, but that is still cheap compared the price I have been quoted in San Francisco for similar level of girls.

In Medellin, for 1100 dollars, I can get four 18 year olds to party for 2 full days in a penthouse with a jacuzzi over looking the beautiful landscape of Antioquia. If I absolutely cannot go back to Medellin, I will just hop over to Canada and fly to Zürich from there.

I don't usually do this, but am doing a favor. I have been friends with Enlly Florez for years. According to her, she's not been with anyone since the virus in March. She's hurting for money and is looking for an appointment with someone who has been safe. Many of you know her. If interested, here is her number. You can message her on Whatsapp. 57-310 8980691. Her body is still solid. Her pussy is very tight. When she wants, she can be very good. Just negotiate what you want in advance. Just passing info along at her request.

Might be good for someone like Slapshot. Not for Blakman (given that he only wants to spend 40 mil!

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Enllym.florez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mas261291[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/enllym.florez.5[/URL]

What does the "PP" after her name on one of those profiles mean? I have a theory but I don't want to offend anyone.

Enlly Florez (P P) is on Facebook.

To connect with Enlly, sign up for Facebook today.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2466219]I don't usually do this, but am doing a favor. I have been friends with Enlly Florez for years. According to her, she's not been with anyone since the virus in March. She's hurting for money and is looking for an appointment with someone who has been safe. Many of you know her. If interested, here is her number. You can message her on Whatsapp. 57-310 8980691. Her body is still solid. Her pussy is very tight. When she wants, she can be very good. Just negotiate what you want in advance. Just passing info along at her request.

Might be good for someone like Slapshot. Not for Blakman (given that he only wants to spend 40 mil!

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Enllym.florez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mas261291[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/enllym.florez.5[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2466170]Always check Medellin gurus's sources. In the case I don't doubt it but it is a marketing web site that heavily motivated by revenue generation.[/QUOTE]I know. They cited a government source but it does not really concern me now so I do not bother. Medellin have not been able to stamp out the virus when the number is in low double digits. Not sure how they can do better with the same approach now.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2466037]Yes there are a lot of cases in the USA. The problem is that the USA does a lot more testing then most other countrys so of course there is more cases I think what is most important is the number of deaths.[/QUOTE]Hello JG. JjBee62 has already discussed the relation between the number of tests and the number of positive detected. The higher number of detected positive in country cannot be ascribed to the higher number of tests. This is difficult to explain to academics, imagine to Trump.

What you say makes really sense, but it needs to be completed. Unfortunately the number of deaths are just an element of the picture. The curve of "deaths" follows with say 2-3 weeks delay the curve of "conclamated sick", which in turn follows the curve of "infected" by other 1-2 weeks. This means that when we count deaths today, in the increasing phase of curves in USA, we are looking at the conclusion of something happened at least 1 month before.

We will be able to discuss the impact of COVID in terms of deaths in USA, as in any other country, only months after the peak.

The destructive impact of this COVID, contrary to any other flue or more contagious disease that we have seen in the last decades, is its capacity to spread silently to a large portion of population, before people starts to be worried because 1) hospitals are getting full 2) the number of deaths is so high that it starts affecting the personal experience of more and more people. At that point, one is noticing the iceberg emerging, but with a delay of weeks. What happens in the next weeks is on the way and cannot be changed. A lockdown is the only effective measure, but its effect appears after several weeks.

There is NO FLUE that could make all hospitals in Houston full (just Houston?), exhaust capacity for patients who need intensive care or simply hospital care, and leave no room for "regular patients". There are towns in my country, which in March were so heavily impacted, that all night and day the only sound was the ambulance siren. Every family had someone sick at home or at hospital, and everyone had some close friend or family member dead. Hospitals were rejecting patients because full. I know some people there, and they are all still shocked and traumatized.

There is another thing that makes this COVID nasty, yet all to discover. Some of those who recover keep lungs and veins damaged. The damage seems not reversible. Imagine one who recovers after the COVID flue, does not need to go to hospital, just few days of fever and cough because young and fit, but keeps his ventilation power lowered. No more jogging as before, and better to avoid high places as Bogota.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2466219]I don't usually do this, but am doing a favor. I have been friends with Enlly Florez for years. According to her, she's not been with anyone since the virus in March. She's hurting for money and is looking for an appointment with someone who has been safe. Many of you know her. If interested, here is her number. You can message her on Whatsapp. 57-310 8980691. Her body is still solid. Her pussy is very tight. When she wants, she can be very good. Just negotiate what you want in advance. Just passing info along at her request.

Might be good for someone like Slapshot. Not for Blakman (given that he only wants to spend 40 mil!

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Enllym.florez[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/mas261291[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/enllym.florez.5[/URL][/QUOTE]


If she would ever come off her FB price point...

I was with her right before the quarantine, but I just can't justify the 250 k + taxis for 1 pop w condom. She's cool and sexy, but there's a reason she's in this position. I hope her well, but I won't be the one chipping in.

I would recommend her, price aside.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2466139]Pico and schedule never went away. It hasn't been enforced since late March but it likely will be again starting tomorrow. Rappi will still bring you anything you need but you would need to stock up on anything you must bring to the house personally. It is scheduled to last 2 weeks and applies to Centro only. I doubt you will notice it.[/QUOTE]He will notice that he now has one pico why cedula day.

One option that may be viable is to fly to Lima, Peru and then travel by land to the Ecuador / Colombia border. Don't know about the bus situation at the moment. Perhaps buy a cheap car or motorcycle. The Ecuador / Colombia border is a bridge. Immigration offices were on either side. My information isn't up to date, but in December, there was a Immigration officer on the bridge that would ask pedestrians for documentation. However, Taxi's and motorcycles were able to cross the bridge to the other side without stopping. The border may be closed, but you can probably cross under the bridge into Colombia.

Spoke to a Venezuelan friend recently, she entered into Cucuta, Colombia from Venezuela last week without any problems and is now in Bogota. They have a "trocha" system over there, where a guide will escort you to the other side. It's risky, as people are sometimes stopped and their belongings searched / robbed. Another girl said there is a small boat that is safer. Anyhow, Venezuelans are still sneaking into Colombia.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2466233]There is another thing that makes this COVID nasty, yet all to discover. Some of those who recover keep lungs and veins damaged. The damage seems not reversible. Imagine one who recovers after the COVID flue, does not need to go to hospital, just few days of fever and cough because young and fit, but keeps his ventilation power lowered. No more jogging as before, and better to avoid high places as Bogota.[/QUOTE]And there are also many more like me.

Had the virus, and though it wasn't fun, didn't affect my lungs at all.
Don't feel any after effects at all.

Mid 50's, pretty good shape.

I realize it's highly contagious and sadly, deadly to some.

Like most though, it hits you like the Flu.

Just like with me.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2466235]If she would ever come off her FB price point...

I was with her right before the quarantine, but I just can't justify the 250 k + taxis for 1 pop w condom. She's cool and sexy, but there's a reason she's in this position. I hope her well, but I won't be the one chipping in.

I would recommend her, price aside.[/QUOTE]I followed Enelly on FB for some years. Never took a turn. "Unfollowed" (its not a word, you dweebs at facebook) her a while ago. Anyone who posts that many photos and videos of themselves is too narcissistic for me. She often featured her abs. I didn't consider her remarkably pretty either. She's older now too. She and her companion just seem like mush-brained cartoons. But if others think she is worth a shot, I might reconsider. Tight is good, but yes she would have to come into the 150 k & under zone, as well as other concessions. Probably not worth the effort. A lot of these girls have screwed themselves by having no ambition or skills development. I suspect she may be one. Another Mansion girl has been pursuing me on W-App. She made a lot of concessions, I gave her a try. Talking to her, there is nothing there. Doesn't cook, clean, or have any ambitions and interests that I could tell. And, a "thick" phony exterior. Too much mileage in the biz. She is still asking to return. Not going to happen. Frankly, I don't like having people like that in my home. Meeting sweet ,kind chicas organically around town, through friends and contacts, is much better. Even a rare gem, new from a sala or apartment biz can be far better than these FB / lleras girls who are always waiting 'at the docks". Well the docks are closed indefinitely.

I do not care either way, but maybe you can get her to lower her price. Last February was a long time ago. Lots has changed. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2466235]If she would ever come off her FB price point...

I was with her right before the quarantine, but I just can't justify the 250 k + taxis for 1 pop w condom. She's cool and sexy, but there's a reason she's in this position. I hope her well, but I won't be the one chipping in.

I would recommend her, price aside.[/QUOTE]

Well, you never know the truth with these girls. But her parrots are named Pepe and Pepita and she claims the P P is for them. It could mean many other interesting things also. Someone should ask her to see if her explanation jives with what she told me. But in the long run, who really cares.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2466224]What does the "PP" after her name on one of those profiles mean? I have a theory but I don't want to offend anyone.

Enlly Florez (P P) is on Facebook.

To connect with Enlly, sign up for Facebook today.[/QUOTE]

OK, now I can say this without poisoning your response. I assumed, perhaps wrongly, that the PP means "prepago". I thought so because I saw a second profile without it. Full disclosure, I am not an authoritative source for this kind of information because I don't spend much time on facebook.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2466263]Well, you never know the truth with these girls. But her parrots are named Pepe and Pepita and she claims the P P is for them. It could mean many other interesting things also. Someone should ask her to see if her explanation jives with what she told me. But in the long run, who really cares.[/QUOTE]

Most of these putas are narcissistic / vain. But they are also lack a lot of self-confidence and are actually very fragile when you know them better. It is funny that we talk about 22 as being "older" yet for a girl like her who has been fucking men for money since she was 15, she is "old" in that regard. She is not remarkably pretty. Yet many of the others are not either. Make-up and filters change a lot. For example, Leidy Baron once made the mistake of posting a foto with no make-up and no filter. Wow what a difference.

Yet so many of these girls refuse to lower their price, despite the market. I've tried to explain this to Enlly and a few others, even in simple terms, but they do not get it or want to get it. And some of them are not as stupid as we think otherwise.

I concur that too many of these girls watch cartoons all of the time. They may be hookers, but they are also like big children in a lot of ways.

And I will reiterate. She not my cup of tea. No chemistry. But I've heard others rave about her and some of her friends. To each his own.

I have found new life with non-pros and chicas who only work on occasion for extra money. I much prefer them for multiple reasons. Now only if I could get back to Medellin to pay some attention to them!

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2466255]I followed Enelly on FB for some years. Never took a turn. "Unfollowed" (its not a word, you dweebs at facebook) her a while ago. Anyone who posts that many photos and videos of themselves is too narcissistic for me. She often featured her abs. I didn't consider her remarkably pretty either. She's older now too. She and her companion just seem like mush-brained cartoons. But if others think she is worth a shot, I might reconsider. Tight is good, but yes she would have to come into the 150 k & under zone, as well as other concessions. Probably not worth the effort. A lot of these girls have screwed themselves by having no ambition or skills development. I suspect she may be one. Another Mansion girl has been pursuing me on W-App. She made a lot of concessions, I gave her a try. Talking to her, there is nothing there. Doesn't cook, clean, or have any ambitions and interests that I could tell. And, a "thick" phony exterior. Too much mileage in the biz. She is still asking to return. Not going to happen. Frankly, I don't like having people like that in my home. Meeting sweet ,kind chicas organically around town, through friends and contacts, is much better. Even a rare gem, new from a sala or apartment biz can be far better than these FB / lleras girls who are always waiting 'at the docks". Well the docks are closed indefinitely.[/QUOTE]

Impromptu ISG member's meet up today, July 12th, at Botero park / La Vera.

So The Tall Man spent most of this afternoon meeting up with Pollo Negro and another member #3 on this board (did not specifically ask his permission to use member #3 name) at Botero and walked the whole area and shared stories and experiences, all in good fun.

Being a Late Sunday afternoon and early evening there was a deffinate reduced number of chicas in Botero and Vera and other adjoining areas. After a few hours member #3 and myself took a drive to San Diego to check out the street scene then over to Mayorista to see what was out, absolutely nothing out at Mayorista, it was ghost town.

So I got a new side kick with member #3 as he lives about 15 minutes from me and we share the same endless enthusiasm for sweet tasting fresh pussy.

Good time guys and lets do it again.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2465199]Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Hey man,

I enjoy your reports so don't take offense but I laughed my ass off that on the top of your cart of healthy food appear to be American cheese (which isn't really cheese) and hotdogs. I'm sure it's just an anomaly and that the remaining items in your cart are healthy ones.

Sunday July 12,2020.

I saw that the Tall Man was going to hang out in Centro so I decided I would call and see if I could tag along. Very good outing, we walked Botero Park and it was my first time there in 2 months. Very good guy to socilaize with and we shared some great techniques about our different styles of approaching girls. We had another gringo with us and my girlfriend's brother, so it was a good way to walk the park and see what was going on for the day.

Just as I had stated in the previous posts the bosses are still in the park and they were much more visible today than I had ever seen before. Maybe because I actually know who they are and know how they function, I was able to point them out to the Tall Man and others who were with us. For those of you who were visiting the park recently, you are absolutely correct about new faces and many of the new faces looking young. I saw a few and asked my girlfriend's brother how old were they and he assured me that the one's that I saw were in the age range of 20-21, to me they looked younger. I was there to socialize and not hunt, so it did not make much of a difference to me.

I really did notice that the park had very limited tourist police and for nearly 40 minute to an hour as me and the Tall Man spoke, It was weird that they did not leave from in front of the Museum the Antioquia. This was very new to me, because if you were up by Tostoa and Premiere Plaza, it would have been extremely easy for a group of Vennie's to rob you and no one would be there to aid you. Pre-quarantine, the entire park was crawling with tourist police so I have on idea why there are so few in the park nowadays.

I also pointed out to the Tall Man, that it was about 2 to 300 chics in the park, but there were probably only 10 clients in the park. So go figure, at what the girls are willing to charge for a date when the competition to find a date is so overwhelming, it is definitely a buyers market right now. No matter how nice the girls look and no matter how many girls were in the park, you saw very limited movement from the girls as in pre-quarantine you would see girls and clients going and coming from the short term hotels.

I did see "Mimi" the female boss and her group of minions and they were steady giving me the eye and everyone who was with us. The other gringo who was with us told us that he had dated Mimi recently as 3 weeks ago and she was sweet with him. So that goes to show you that YMMV? Personally, she will never get a date from me and has never received a date from me and I saw with my own two eyes at how dangerous she can be when she stabbed the other Vennie in the park last year.

We walked over to Park Berrios and just took in the sight seeing as the other gringo had no idea that girls work in that park as well. I personally have never had a date from Park Berrios, but I have had girls to whistle at me when I walk near the area. We scoped out Berrios for about 30 minutes and decided to take another tour of Park Botero and my girlfriend began to call worried that something had happened to me in the park, so I decided that it would be best if I returned home to relieve her stress about me being out of the house for more than 2 hours.

I absolutely enjoyed the socializing with the Tall Man on Sunday and currently the park is still full of girls so who knows how well the girls will behave when everything returns to normal. On Monday, July 13,2020 the strict quarantine is back in effect and I am sure the park will be closed as they were harassing people after 6 pm today. I have no idea about flights scheduled for September and really doubt that Colombia will open its borders to foreigners any time soon, but who knows. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2466265]Most of these putas are narcissistic / vain. But they are also lack a lot of self-confidence and are actually very fragile when you know them better. It is funny that we talk about 22 as being "older" yet for a girl like her who has been fucking men for money since she was 15, she is "old" in that regard. She is not remarkably pretty. Yet many of the others are not either. Make-up and filters change a lot. For example, Leidy Baron once made the mistake of posting a foto with no make-up and no filter. Wow what a difference.
[/QUOTE]How much did you pay for Leidy Baron? I matched with her on Tinder once. She would be a good test case of being able to get these woman for 50 k since almost everyone has her on Instagram. When you see her in pictures with a man, the man always appears to be in his twenties or thirties. She must be thirty herself now.

Another chica on Instagram I paid $100 USD but was referred to her by a taxi driver so he got his cut. She was only 19 at the time. Now she must be 24 or 25. Another poster said he paid her $200 k pesos. She is hard to schedule. She is always out and about in Medellin.

Never banged Leidy Baron. 1) I assume she wants much more than I would pay, for what I assume would be average service. Just looking at her fotos and how she promotes herself suggests this to me. 2) After seeing the foto of her without make-up, the idea of seeing her as a one-time trophy fuck lost its allure.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2466414]How much did you pay for Leidy Baron? I matched with her on Tinder once. She would be a good test case of being able to get these woman for 50 k since almost everyone has her on Instagram. When you see her in pictures with a man, the man always appears to be in his twenties or thirties. She must be thirty herself now.

Another chica on Instagram I paid $100 USD but was referred to her by a taxi driver so he got his cut. She was only 19 at the time. Now she must be 24 or 25. Another poster said he paid her $200 k pesos. She is hard to schedule. She is always out and about in Medellin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2466237]He will notice that he now has one pico why cedula day.[/QUOTE]Legally-speaking, yes. I don't want to open the can of worms like SJobs trying to get into the country, illegally, but I currently have a passport and two other forms of ID. I've been using whichever one applies to the day I want to go out, for 4 months. I have not been stopped by police, at a time when I wasn't carrying my passport. However, I think when I barely carry cash, and explain there's no way I'm bringing my passport out in public when embassies are closed or slowed, and I need to return home soon. That much more discussion would be had. I would just spat my actual passport number rapidly with a corresponding last digit, and see what happens. If I get fined, I get fined. Anything more would be terrible, but I just can't see that happening over me going to Carulla or walking through Botero (which I won't be doing until August, if at all).

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2466262]I do not care either way, but maybe you can get her to lower her price. Last February was a long time ago. Lots has changed. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Maybe so. I just don't like the rushed, regulated, and half-attentive routine. Thus, she could say 150 k and I'd probably pass. We had a couple good times, but there is always cheaper, newer, and in some cases, hotter. Not to mention, the other issues previously stated. I think her and others like her are decent for Medellin first-timers, but don't be fooled into bringing her friend.

I panicked, yesterday afternoon, when It popped into my mind that the barber shops might be closed, starting today. I messaged mine and he said they are business as usual, until notified otherwise. That might be different for places in centro or other parts that have more strict changes.

Anyone (Knowledge) know the law about staying more than 180 days in a year. Is that a calendar year, or any 365-day period? Obviously, this year, I would think they disregard it upon departure or future arrival, but I'm not 100%.

I do not disagree with what you say about "rushed, regulated, and half-attentive. " And I agree about bringing friends. And goes for all of the girls, unless there is a pre-negotiated trio.

As for visa stay, my understanding is that Colombia changed from 180 days in a calendar year to 180 days in a rolling 1 year period. So in other words, you cannot do July 1-December 31,20 xx followed by January 1 - June 30,20 xy.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2466434]...Maybe so. I just don't like the rushed, regulated, and half-attentive routine. Thus, she could say 150 k and I'd probably pass. We had a couple good times, but there is always cheaper, newer, and in some cases, hotter. Not to mention, the other issues previously stated. I think her and others like her are decent for Medellin first-timers, but don't be fooled into bringing her friend.


Anyone (Knowledge) know the law about staying more than 180 days in a year. Is that a calendar year, or any 365-day period? Obviously, this year, I would think they disregard it upon departure or future arrival, but I'm not 100%.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2466282]Impromptu ISG member's meet up today, July 12th, at Botero park / La Vera.

So The Tall Man spent most of this afternoon meeting up with Pollo Negro and another member #3 on this board (did not specifically ask his permission to use member #3 name) at Botero and walked the whole area and shared stories and experiences, all in good fun.

Being a Late Sunday afternoon and early evening there was a deffinate reduced number of chicas in Botero and Vera and other adjoining areas. After a few hours member #3 and myself took a drive to San Diego to check out the street scene then over to Mayorista to see what was out, absolutely nothing out at Mayorista, it was ghost town.

So I got a new side kick with member #3 as he lives about 15 minutes from me and we share the same endless enthusiasm for sweet tasting fresh pussy.

Good time guys and lets do it again.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PolloNegro;2466316]Sunday July 12,2020.

I saw that the Tall Man was going to hang out in Centro so I decided I would call and see if I could tag along. Very good outing, we walked Botero Park and it was my first time there in 2 months. Very good guy to socilaize with and we shared some great techniques about our different styles of approaching girls. We had another gringo with us and my girlfriend's brother, so it was a good way to walk the park and see what was going on for the day.

Just as I had stated in the previous posts the bosses are still in the park and they were much more visible today than I had ever seen before. Maybe because I actually know who they are and know how they function, I was able to point them out to the Tall Man and others who were with us. For those of you who were visiting the park recently, you are absolutely correct about new faces and many of the new faces looking young. I saw a few and asked my girlfriend's brother how old were they and he assured me that the one's that I saw were in the age range of 20-21, to me they looked younger. I was there to socialize and not hunt, so it did not make much of a difference to me.

I really did notice that the park had very limited tourist police and for nearly 40 minute to an hour as me and the Tall Man spoke, It was weird that they did not leave from in front of the Museum the Antioquia. This was very new to me, because if you were up by Tostoa and Premiere Plaza, it would have been extremely easy for a group of Vennie's to rob you and no one would be there to aid you. Pre-quarantine, the entire park was crawling with tourist police so I have on idea why there are so few in the park nowadays.

I also pointed out to the Tall Man, that it was about 2 to 300 chics in the park, but there were probably only 10 clients in the park. So go figure, at what the girls are willing to charge for a date when the competition to find a date is so overwhelming, it is definitely a buyers market right now. No matter how nice the girls look and no matter how many girls were in the park, you saw very limited movement from the girls as in pre-quarantine you would see girls and clients going and coming from the short term hotels..[/QUOTE]PN what a good detailed and accurate review of our time spent in the area yesterday. Despite the chicas and masks and all lots of good laughs and a sharing our our purpose in life, Pussy! The good, the bad and the ugly! Hehehehe.

When we (member #3 and myself) departed last night we did some shopping at Jumbo San Juan as it was still early, then after a few hours and after dark we headed over to just observe the street scene SW in and around San Diego area, as it was still somewhat early only a few chicas out on the street (IE +/- 12) we decided to head south over to Mayorista as we both have not been there since pre-covid days back in January, it was a ghost town, nothing at all, absolutely dead so we headed back over to San Diego street and saw more chicas out and a few looking good, hehehehe.

We did not partake rather called it a night and I drove member #3 home then returned to my home.

Today and this week moving forward will tell how this re-newed quarantine lock-down in el centro will affect the chicas. Don't hold your breath anyone.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2466419]Never banged Leidy Baron. 1) I assume she wants much more than I would pay, for what I assume would be average service. Just looking at her fotos and how she promotes herself suggests this to me. 2) After seeing the foto of her without make-up, the idea of seeing her as a one-time trophy fuck lost its allure.[/QUOTE]I was still one week away when we matched on Tinder. I asked on the Board that if I offered her 200 USD to meet me at Ibiza in two hours if they thought she would do it. I received two comments with the answers being in the negative so I never pursued it when I arrived. But would we agree that there is at least one chica located in Provenza that you could not find in Centro for a cheaper price? I, for one, would be interested in how she started. Was she a Mansion chica? What would be the tactic to get her to do a meetup? I know 3 or 4 guys that have her on Instagram but no one who has done the deed. I am just bored in sex prison. Carl Anthony is probably the guy who could pull this one off. Maybe Steve Jobs.

I wish you would have offered. I can't imagine any girl in MDE who is serious about her "job" that would turn down 700 mil! I would not pay that for her. Even for TLN. I can't think of anyone I'd pay 700 mil for TLN, but that's just me. And if she wants 200 USD or more, then I highly suspect the performance would be disappointing, based on general past experiences where price is not equal to performance.

I would be interested in her background also. Given her "associates" I think she's basically a ghetto girl who makes the most of social media, make-up, and camera filters. If she was a Mansion chica, it was during a period I was not there a long while ago. Anyone know?

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2466463]I was still one week away when we matched on Tinder. I asked on the Board that if I offered her 200 USD to meet me at Ibiza in two hours if they thought she would do it. I received two comments with the answers being in the negative so I never pursued it when I arrived. But would we agree that there is at least one chica located in Provenza that you could not find in Centro for a cheaper price? I, for one, would be interested in how she started. Was she a Mansion chica? What would be the tactic to get her to do a meetup? I know 3 or 4 guys that have her on Instagram but no one who has done the deed. I am just bored in sex prison. Carl Anthony is probably the guy who could pull this one off. Maybe Steve Jobs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JonSnow1;2466246]One option that may be viable is to fly to Lima, Peru and then travel by land to the Ecuador / Colombia border. Don't know about the bus situation at the moment. Perhaps buy a cheap car or motorcycle. The Ecuador / Colombia border is a bridge. Immigration offices were on either side. My information isn't up to date, but in December, there was a Immigration officer on the bridge that would ask pedestrians for documentation. However, Taxi's and motorcycles were able to cross the bridge to the other side without stopping. The border may be closed, but you can probably cross under the bridge into Colombia.

Spoke to a Venezuelan friend recently, she entered into Cucuta, Colombia from Venezuela last week without any problems and is now in Bogota. They have a "trocha" system over there, where a guide will escort you to the other side. It's risky, as people are sometimes stopped and their belongings searched / robbed. Another girl said there is a small boat that is safer. Anyhow, Venezuelans are still sneaking into Colombia.[/QUOTE]Can this work? I'm sure if I can get to the border there will be ways to get in. The worst border is at the airport. Is Peru open? I love Lima, and I have some good friends there, I can try to ask them to help me to the border. How can I get from the Colombia and Peru border to Medellin? I guess without any Spanish speaking skill, it might be difficult.

Immigration rules are suspended until commercial flights resume. It was announced a few weeks ago that you can now extend most visas electronically. I would not spend the time or money with any of that until flights resume. It was way back in April that there will be a one month amnesty period to legalize immigration status beginning the day the border reopens. Leaving the country is one way to legalize immigration status; visa re-validation is another.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2466434]Legally-speaking, yes. I don't want to open the can of worms like SJobs trying to get into the country, illegally, but I currently have a passport and two other forms of ID. I've been using whichever one applies to the day I want to go out, for 4 months. I have not been stopped by police, at a time when I wasn't carrying my passport. However, I think when I barely carry cash, and explain there's no way I'm bringing my passport out in public when embassies are closed or slowed, and I need to return home soon. That much more discussion would be had. I would just spat my actual passport number rapidly with a corresponding last digit, and see what happens. If I get fined, I get fined. Anything more would be terrible, but I just can't see that happening over me going to Carulla or walking through Botero (which I won't be doing until August, if at all).

Maybe so. I just don't like the rushed, regulated, and half-attentive routine. Thus, she could say 150 k and I'd probably pass. We had a couple good times, but there is always cheaper, newer, and in some cases, hotter. Not to mention, the other issues previously stated. I think her and others like her are decent for Medellin first-timers, but don't be fooled into bringing her friend.

I panicked, yesterday afternoon, when It popped into my mind that the barber shops might be closed, starting today. I messaged mine and he said they are business as usual, until notified otherwise. That might be different for places in centro or other parts that have more strict changes..[/QUOTE]

I am not holding my breath but I can report Aiffe and Amigas Sexxy were open for business today. They announced it on their whatsapp stories. I suspect puntocom did not open but I can't confirm that. Remember that is is Centro that is re-quarantined for the next two weeks. Laureles is not affected and there are several good options there. I haven't heard about the 3 day weekend curfew and the every weekend ley seca Mayor Quintero announced earlier this month before he announced the quarantine by sector last weekend. It's hard to keep track of it all.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2466444]PN what a good detailed and accurate review of our time spent in the area yesterday. Despite the chicas and masks and all lots of good laughs and a sharing our our purpose in life, Pussy! The good, the bad and the ugly! Hehehehe.

When we (member #3 and myself) departed last night we did some shopping at Jumbo San Juan as it was still early, then after a few hours and after dark we headed over to just observe the street scene SW in and around San Diego area, as it was still somewhat early only a few chicas out on the street (IE +/- 12) we decided to head south over to Mayorista as we both have not been there since pre-covid days back in January, it was a ghost town, nothing at all, absolutely dead so we headed back over to San Diego street and saw more chicas out and a few looking good, hehehehe.

We did not partake rather called it a night and I drove member #3 home then returned to my home.

Today and this week moving forward will tell how this re-newed quarantine lock-down in el centro will affect the chicas. Don't hold your breath anyone.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2466463]I was still one week away when we matched on Tinder. I asked on the Board that if I offered her 200 USD to meet me at Ibiza in two hours if they thought she would do it. I received two comments with the answers being in the negative so I never pursued it when I arrived. But would we agree that there is at least one chica located in Provenza that you could not find in Centro for a cheaper price? I, for one, would be interested in how she started. Was she a Mansion chica? What would be the tactic to get her to do a meetup? I know 3 or 4 guys that have her on Instagram but no one who has done the deed. I am just bored in sex prison. Carl Anthony is probably the guy who could pull this one off. Maybe Steve Jobs.[/QUOTE]I got in touch with her friend and then later got in touch with Leidy. They both told me $200 USD for Leidy. I offered 300 k 2 pops and she declined. I didn't respond beyond that. I agree with ColombiaLover though, I'm happy it worked out that way after seeing her post without makeup and filter. I had a feeling the service would suck, when she dances, she just looks super stiff. I think she looks good from certain angles and its more of an illusion than anything.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466527]Can this work? I'm sure if I can get to the border there will be ways to get in. The worst border is at the airport. Is Peru open? I love Lima, and I have some good friends there, I can try to ask them to help me to the border. How can I get from the Colombia and Peru border to Medellin? I guess without any Spanish speaking skill, it might be difficult.[/QUOTE]I think you need to seek a addiction support group. You sound like a hardcore junkie that will do anything for "just one more 18 year old chica man" It's cracking me up but I'm also concerned because you sound serious.

Dude, seriously?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466527]Can this work? I'm sure if I can get to the border there will be ways to get in. The worst border is at the airport. Is Peru open? I love Lima, and I have some good friends there, I can try to ask them to help me to the border. How can I get from the Colombia and Peru border to Medellin? I guess without any Spanish speaking skill, it might be difficult.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2466536]I think you need to seek a addiction support group. You sound like a hardcore junkie that will do anything for "just one more 18 year old chica man" It's cracking me up but I'm also concerned because you sound serious.[/QUOTE]Dude,

I run an addiction support group in Medellin for smoking hot 18-21 year olds who are addicted to fucking 30 year old dudes in a penthouse for money. I'm willing to do anything to get back into the country so I can offer support for my group members.

People are suffering everywhere, I got to step up to take some extreme measures. I'm sure some of my friends who crossed the border from Mexico to the US illegally shared the same feeling I have right now, their desire for American dollar is as strong as my desire to have foursomes with 18-year-olds.

All jokes aside, I do have a business need to go to Medellin, I have consulted lawyers in both the US and Colombia, they all told me that in the short term, there is no way to get in while the travel ban is in place. S. Plus, I much rather talk about something interesting and potentially fruitful than shopping charts and ATM fees.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2466536]I think you need to seek a addiction support group. You sound like a hardcore junkie that will do anything for "just one more 18 year old chica man" It's cracking me up but I'm also concerned because you sound serious.[/QUOTE]It sounds like an adventure to me. I would tag alone if not for Covid!

I am sure the experienced folks already know this, but I think it is best always to negotiate with chicas in COP.

One chica quoted USD 125 to set me up with her friend and her referral fee. I told her that was too steep and I can't do that. She said that is normal, because the girl gets 200 COP + 20 COP for taxi, and she gets 30 COP as referral fee. I agreed to that.

Based on that day's exchange rate, I think it came out to USD 70. Not sure what kind of conversion they do. LOL.

Also, some of the chicas travel to Mexico to work, to touristy places. I think they get the USD 100 from there, which appears to be the norm.

I told them, I am not paying Mexican prices in Medellin. LOL.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2466316]Sunday July 12,2020.
I saw that the Tall Man was going to hang out in Centro so I decided I would call and see if I could tag along.

I saw a few and asked my girlfriend's brother how old were they and he assured me that the ones that I saw were in the age range of 20-21, to me they looked younger.

Just as I had stated in the previous posts the bosses are still in the park and they were much more visible today than I had ever seen before. Maybe because I actually know who they are and know how they function.

I also pointed out to the Tall Man, that it was about 2 to 300 chics in the park, but there were probably only 10 clients in the park. So go figure, at what the girls are willing to charge for a date when the competition to find a date is so overwhelming, it is definitely a buyers market right now. No matter how nice the girls look and no matter how many girls were in the park, you saw very limited movement from the girls as in pre-quarantine you would see girls and clients going and coming from the short term hotels.

We walked over to Park Berrios and just took in the sight seeing as the other gringo had no idea that girls work in that park as well. I personally have never had a date from Park Berrios.[/QUOTE]I guess I did not make the "cool kids" criteria. I thought you were going to text me next time you were visiting Centro.

Some customers where I work at that I have meet 15+ times are 2 years "below sea level". There is this Amazon girl who is 6 foot with see cups with a baby face but if she talked you would know immediately her age. The next two could easily pass for 25 with a little makeup and some nice clothes. These two carry themselves very well and can hold a conversation. One of them understands my dry read between the lines humor which is very impressive. So many girls you can not tell their age from looking at them in the USA. Yet you think when you enter another country that the locals can magically guess correct ages? Seriously, that would be magic!

First there was a boss now it is bosses. You make it sound like this underworld mafia out to get people. It is a bunch of cliques like high school. There is the older girls group, the Venies, newbies, glue huffers, blacks, the weekenders only crowd, and so on.

What you are seeing is a girl out with her friends working with a boyfriend or two on the side that is playing bouncer if need be (poor guys trying to get a cheap deal) but mostly trying to get a cut because he if a worthless piece of that brown smelly stuff.

Next example, is the girl too old and / or ugly who can not get a customer. She sees a newbie and approaches her trying to "help" her by giving her advice. What she is trying to do is use the newbie to borrow money or buy her a snack or lunch because they are now friends. The ugly / old girl will push the pretty newbie to try to get threesomes so the unwanted one can make money.

This one is pretty slick. Older ugly girl standing and chatting with new girl. They both notice a customer looking their direction and maybe walking toward them. The old ugly girl runs up to the customer as if she personally knows him but has never seen him in her life. But the new girl assumes they are friends. Old ugly girl introduces them to one another and demands a commission. Customer takes new pretty girl. Ugly old girl after demands her cut.

That older ugly girl is not the mom or aunt. They say that because that explains why they are together with their age differences. That lady will set both of you up if given the chance. I always avoid the girl with a lady old enough to be her mother.

The locals pick up the girls real quick and are off and running. Foreigners wander around looking around taking inventory. I saw many girls getting taken. Nothing like before the virus. Stand in front of some love hotels and watch the couples come and go. Better head count that way. Not as bad as you are saying but nothing like before.

Park Berrios. Never seen so many tinto / coffee sells in such a small area. I can not remember the last time I read anyone on this board pulling a girl from there. Last year and this visit I am yet to see someone take one of the coffee sellers. Those girls flirt with the old guys with smiling and winking but I am yet to see any of the hot girls I wanted ever leaving with anyone. The girls I see that look available for sale I do not want.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2464973]I can show you over 200 hundred different chicas that I have sessioned with, and can show you more than 120 chicas on this trip. You can best believe that 95% of every chic that I have sessioned with, have allowed me to video.[/QUOTE]Nope. Wrong. I have asked 3 girls for a picture after sex when they are fully clothed and standing next to a blank wall with nothing else (bed) in the picture. 1 out of 3 said yes. Same results in the Philippines. The hotter they are the less your chances are. You can offer a small tip or a large tip and increase your chances. Some girls will not allow pictures at any price and forget video. My buddy had 3 hidden cameras so the girls do not know it. Maybe that is what you are doing. But your 95% is 100% BS in any country.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2466529]I am not holding my breath but I can report Aiffe and Amigas Sexxy were open for business today. [/QUOTE]Are those casas in Comuna 10?

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2466535]I got in touch with her friend and then later got in touch with Leidy. They both told me $200 USD for Leidy. I offered 300 k 2 pops and she declined. I didn't respond beyond that. I agree with ColombiaLover though, I'm happy it worked out that way after seeing her post without makeup and filter. I had a feeling the service would suck, when she dances, she just looks super stiff. I think she looks good from certain angles and its more of an illusion than anything.[/QUOTE]That is impossible. She can not turn you down. PolloNegro says that the girls are all desperate and would not even turn down 80,000 COP.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466527]Can this work? I'm sure if I can get to the border there will be ways to get in. The worst border is at the airport. Is Peru open? I love Lima, and I have some good friends there, I can try to ask them to help me to the border. How can I get from the Colombia and Peru border to Medellin? I guess without any Spanish speaking skill, it might be difficult.[/QUOTE]You must be really fiending to be thinking up these hair-brained schemes and posting about it. Let's say you do sneak in, how do you intend to sneak out?

You are talking about Lima, so of course you would have to fly from there to Iquitos. From there you would have to take a 13 hour boat ride through the Amazon Jungle to Leticia, the Colombian part of the Amazon Jungle. Then you would have to take one flight to Bogota and then another flight to Medellin. Don't know how you would take said flights if your passport has not been scanned into the country by immigration. But I guess you would also have to worry about sneaking into Peru before any of the other steps mentioned since it is closed too.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2466603]You must be really fiending to be thinking up these hair-brained schemes and posting about it. Let's say you do sneak in, how do you intend to sneak out?.[/QUOTE]The biggest regret in my life so far is leaving Medellin 2 fucking weeks before this fucking quarantine. Why would I ever want to sneak out if I'm ready in heaven. Don't people pray for a lifetime so they can get to heaven and never have to leave?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2466145]I'm going to disagree on these 2 points.

If testing was 100% random you would need to test roughly 30% of the population before you could have an increase in number of positive results due solely to the number of tests. Even then, the increase would be small.

Start with a control group of 100.33 are infected. For every 3 tests, you should average one positive. These are all completely random. As your pool of untested shrinks, sometimes you're finding more than 1 of every 3, sometimes less. So once you've got about a third tested, you've established a reasonable idea of what more tests will show. Assuming no new infections. Whether you test 15 or all 100 you'll get about the same answer.

However, testing isn't completely random. First priority, people with symptoms. Now let's go back to the 100.18 have symptoms, they get tested and with 18 tests you've found 18 of the 33.7 others have symptoms, but are negative. With 25 tests, you have 18 positive results, indicating 72 infected people. Another 15 get tested, because they've been around someone who was infected. You get 7 more positive results. Now you've identified 25 positive results with 40 tests, still giving you a potential 72 (72.5) infected people. Add in more testing and the numbers keep dropping, until, after 100 tests, you find only 33.

Testing more people, won't find more cases, unless there are more cases to be found.

As for the financial incentive, can someone please show me the money? I understand there have been claims that there's extra financial compensation for hospitals who are willing to claim every death is COVID-19, but I haven't seen anyone showing the money. If someone is paying huge bounties for falsifying death certificates, it should show up somewhere. And I say huge, because what happens when someone proves their family member didn't die from COVID-19? Not only is there a significant payout, but it opens the floodgates. Every COVID-19 death becomes a potential million dollar settlement. That's an enormous risk.

Where does the money come from? Of course the easily debunked conspiracy theory is that Medicare and Medicaid are paying it. There are 2 significant problems with that source. First, those payments would only apply to people who are on Medicare it Medicaid. It would be rather suspicious if every person on Medicare suddenly started dying from COVID-19.

The other, more significant problem is that means Trump's own people are, apparently with Trump's approval, spending money in order to make Trump look bad. I have trouble believing that.

Now to the debunking.

Back when COVID-19 started causing problems, the Kaiser Family Foundation was asked to estimate the cost of the disease. They went back through Medicare records to determine the average cost for treatment of diseases requiring similar treatment. What was the final bill? How much for ICU? How much for a ventilator? Then they published their findings.

On April 8, on the Fox News show "The Ingraham Angle", Sen. Scott Jensen (R-MN) was interviewed and made the claim of extra payments, using the KFF numbers. However, those aren't extra payments. Those are the estimated costs.

In addition, Medicare doesn't pay hospitals extra for deaths. "Patient didn't survive? Here's another $10,000 for your trouble. "

The number of positive cases can't double from increased random testing, unless the number of positive people has also doubled. The number of deaths is not because the Trump administration is trying to make the Trump administration look bad.[/QUOTE]According to data from Johns Hopkins University, Chile has recorded more than 317,000 cases since the beginning of pandemic, which puts its on the sixth place in the world by the number of registered cases.

To put things in perspective, the USA Population is roughly 331 million while Chile population is just 19 million. This means that about 1% of the USA Population has tested positive for the virus while in Chile about 1. 7% of population were registered as infected at some point. I also assume that the USA Is doing more tests due to its technological and financial advantage over Chile. So, while the USA Gets all the press, the situation in Chile is likely much worse.

Saw the posse (The Tallman, PolloNegro, and 3rd guy) around 10:00 am. But only as they past by when I turned my head. It was Sunday with less chicks. I needed to get laid and get some numbers before lock down. They may start kicking people out early like 3 pm. Never know.

Saw The Tallman and the 3rd guy a few hours later in front of Museum. The Tallman you were just waving that phone around like you just don't care (haha. That if a verse in a song I can not remember). You were on a video call holding that phone at arms length away. You were talking to the 3rd guy, the person on the phone, all while trying to video the surroundings and yourselves. Not paying any attention to who or what was happening around you while holding your phone so far away from your body. Shocking.

About 40 minutes later pass by The Tallman and the 3rd guy near front of Premier Plaza Suite still on video call. So much time on the phone I think maybe you are a girl.

Is the 3rd guy equal meaning close buddies with the guy you were video conferencing? Hard to tell by just passing by and he does not strike me as a big talker. If the 3rd guy hardly knows the guy you were on video with, then you owe him an apology for being a jerk and ignoring him.

General social priority goes to the friend live and in person first, second to the phone call, and lastly to a text or email. Maybe I am wrong but appeared that the 3rd guy was not at the same level of friendship thus meaning you took the video call as a priority over him. Not cool.

I've met him. Floyd Mayweather talks a lot of shit but he's real right? Same principle here. Look forward to seeing you again brother, and the steaks and maragaritas are on me.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466545]All jokes aside, I do have a business need to go to Medellin, I have consulted lawyers in both the US and Colombia, they all told me that in the short term, there is no way to get in while the travel ban is in place. S. Plus, I much rather talk about something interesting and potentially fruitful than shopping charts and ATM fees.[/QUOTE]What has been talked about in how you might return to Colombia (bribing officials, boat / motorcycle travel, and hitchhiking across different Countries) has been interesting for sure in that it has been so absurd, and yes is more fun reading about than the posts about ATM's.

The only way I can think of you getting back to Medellin quickly short of everything to date mentioned is that you would have to assume the identity of either a Colombian Citizen or perhaps a Colombian resident somewhere in the world who can return on a humanitarian flight approved by Colombian immigration. I am clueless as how you might go about doing this short of enlisting a CIA operative to assist you, and you might have to get a phony face like something out of a Tom Cruise movie.

I will say this, when you do return, I am looking forward to your posts when you finally pull off some good foursomes. I think when you left you had the threesomes perfected, but were still working on the foursomes.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466176]My post was about obtaining an "investors visa" which qualifies you for residency, and is good for five years and obtaining this type of visa does not require obtaining a temporary visa first, but making an investment. And to obtain the Cedula, your Passport needs to be sent to Bogota to obtain the Visa that they paste into your Passport (and you don't need to appear in person to do this), and with the visa than in your Passport you can obtain a Cedula at any immigration office.

As far as buying real estate in Colombia it's tricky, kind of like the wild west with no escrow or title companies, and lots of gringos get burned and duped in the process.[/QUOTE]My Colombian visa was put in my passport at the Colombian consulate in Boston, Massachusetts. I then had 90 days to get my ass to Colombia and get my cedula which I obtained at the immigration office in Manizales.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2466748]My Colombian visa was put in my passport at the Colombian consulate in Boston, Massachusetts. I then had 90 days to get my ass to Colombia and get my cedula which I obtained at the immigration office in Manizales.[/QUOTE]That's good, I was in Colombia when obtaining my visa and they required it be sent to Bogota, so being able to renew in a Colombian consulate is good news, thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2466559]I am sure the experienced folks already know this, but I think it is best always to negotiate with chicas in COP.

One chica quoted USD 125 to set me up with her friend and her referral fee. I told her that was too steep and I can't do that. She said that is normal, because the girl gets 200 COP + 20 COP for taxi, and she gets 30 COP as referral fee. I agreed to that.

Based on that day's exchange rate, I think it came out to USD 70. Not sure what kind of conversion they do. LOL.

Also, some of the chicas travel to Mexico to work, to touristy places. I think they get the USD 100 from there, which appears to be the norm.

I told them, I am not paying Mexican prices in Medellin. LOL.[/QUOTE]Much love and respect but if a Colombian woman would even hint of payment terms of USD I would drop that ***** and run. I could care less where they get the idea from, be it traveling to Mexico to sell their pussy or if they learned it from their university degree in economics (I am being sarcastic) these types of putas are hard core and not worth even my time communicating with. IMHO.

I have been mongering in Medellin for 10 years now, living here for the past 3 years, and also have more than a decade traveling to other areas and cities of Colombia and during this, kid you not, one thousand situations maybe had a total of 3 quote me in USD.

So run Forest run!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2466726]Saw the posse (The Tallman, PolloNegro, and 3rd guy) around 10:00 am. But only as they past by when I turned my head. It was Sunday with less chicks. I needed to get laid and get some numbers before lock down. They may start kicking people out early like 3 pm. Never know.

Saw The Tallman and the 3rd guy a few hours later in front of Museum. The Tallman you were just waving that phone around like you just don't care (haha. That if a verse in a song I can not remember). You were on a video call holding that phone at arms length away. You were talking to the 3rd guy, the person on the phone, all while trying to video the surroundings and yourselves. Not paying any attention to who or what was happening around you while holding your phone so far away from your body. Shocking.

About 40 minutes later pass by The Tallman and the 3rd guy near front of Premier Plaza Suite still on video call. So much time on the phone I think maybe you are a girl.

Is the 3rd guy equal meaning close buddies with the guy you were video conferencing? Hard to tell by just passing by and he does not strike me as a big talker. If the 3rd guy hardly knows the guy you were on video with, then you owe him an apology for being a jerk and ignoring him..[/QUOTE]Yes I observed you too, I have superb peripheral vision, like superman x-ray vision, and always aware of everyone around me.

You were the small older dude wearing shorts looking at us like a maricon wanting to get into our pants, hehehehe you need to check out the transvestite area next to the vera for that, were you lost trying to get your bearings?

Oh sounds like your a gringo with short man's syndrome with no confidence to come up and say Hi rather pick apart my conversations and friendship that you know nothing of. Pussy with short mans syndrome and can't make friends like a normal person.

You owe me an apology punk.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2466561]First there was a boss now it is bosses. You make it sound like this underworld mafia out to get people. It is a bunch of cliques like high school. There is the older girls group, the Venies, newbies, glue huffers, blacks, the weekenders only crowd, and so on.

What you are seeing is a girl out with her friends working with a boyfriend or two on the side that is playing bouncer if need be (poor guys trying to get a cheap deal) but mostly trying to get a cut because he if a worthless piece of that brown smelly stuff..[/QUOTE]I think your assessment of what is going on in Parque Botero and the surrounding area makes sense compared to what else has been posted.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2466654]According to data from Johns Hopkins University, Chile has recorded more than 317,000 cases since the beginning of pandemic, which puts its on the sixth place in the world by the number of registered cases.

To put things in perspective, the USA Population is roughly 331 million while Chile population is just 19 million. This means that about 1% of the USA Population has tested positive for the virus while in Chile about 1. 7% of population were registered as infected at some point. I also assume that the USA Is doing more tests due to its technological and financial advantage over Chile. So, while the USA Gets all the press, the situation in Chile is likely much worse.[/QUOTE]I get all gooey inside when someone uses math and gets it right.

Whether or not Chile has had it worse would depend upon the case distribution over time. At this point, and we should have confirmation by Friday, it appears the US is in a worse position. I'd really love to be wrong on this one.

The glue sniffers are the best. Look for my Cartagena hat on one of them.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466774]I think your assessment of what is going on in Parque Botero and the surrounding area makes sense compared to what else has been posted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kafka;2466794]The glue sniffers are the best. Look for my Cartagena hat on one of them.[/QUOTE]Prior to the invasion of the Venezuelans, and about five years ago all of the glue sniffers known as Sacaleros used to line up along side of the Museum where the pedestrian walkway is and there were some pretty cute ones indeed. I used to refer to this area as 'glue sniffer alley' technically though it's not a Cahuilla.

As far as the Sacaleros there's a couple of issues. The first is the stench that comes out of their pores, imagine a heavy smoker that has that nicotine odor coming from them, but even more disgusting. The second is some of them are like Zombies. There pretty easy to spot, look for a plastic bag they put the glue into and sniff out of. Also, a lot of the Sacaleros are very thin as a result of sniffing glue. I tried a few of them because I was curious, and if you wanted to you could do anything you wanted with them because they can be so spaced out. I doubt very few posters on this board would do them, but I am sure some of the regulars on this board whether they are willing to admit it or not have tried them.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2466535]I got in touch with her friend and then later got in touch with Leidy. They both told me $200 USD for Leidy. I offered 300 k 2 pops and she declined. I didn't respond beyond that. I agree with ColombiaLover though, I'm happy it worked out that way after seeing her post without makeup and filter. I had a feeling the service would suck, when she dances, she just looks super stiff. I think she looks good from certain angles and its more of an illusion than anything.[/QUOTE]She looks pretty close to a 10 in my book with her makeup, don't care what she looks like without it as I am sure she would show up in her warpaint. $200 maybe if that includes some dinner / dancing etc before going back to the hotel.

Never did a glue sniffer from centro. But I did know a FB girl who got into sniffing glue. Her name was Marilyn. Can't remember the last name. She was a cute spinner, but with an odd personality. She was great except when you tried to kiss her. I found out the hard way when we were kissing and I smelled the glue. She eventually got off the glue (I could tell when I saw her, because she did not smell any more), but lost touch with her.

The point is that if they sniff glue, you will know it when you get near them, even if they are not doing it at the time.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466801]

As far as the Sacaleros there's a couple of issues. The first is the stench that comes out of their pores, imagine a heavy smoker that has that nicotine odor coming from them, but even more disgusting.

I doubt very few posters on this board would do them, but I am sure some of the regulars on this board whether they are willing to admit it or not have tried them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466607]The biggest regret in my life so far is leaving Medellin 2 fucking weeks before this fucking quarantine. Why would I ever want to sneak out if I'm ready in heaven. Don't people pray for a lifetime so they can get to heaven and never have to leave?[/QUOTE]I just looked at the map. I think you can get to Quito and it is closer to Medellin than going thru Peru.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2466767]Much love and respect but if a Colombian woman would even hint of payment terms of USD I would drop that ***** and run. I could care less where they get the idea from, be it traveling to Mexico to sell their pussy or if they learned it from their university degree in economics (I am being sarcastic) these types of putas are hard core and not worth even my time communicating with. IMHO.

I have been mongering in Medellin for 10 years now, living here for the past 3 years, and also have more than a decade traveling to other areas and cities of Colombia and during this, kid you not, one thousand situations maybe had a total of 3 quote me in USD.

So run Forest run!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]LOL, the way you put it. I agreed with you, but want to add that, some of the inexperienced chicas, based on tutoring from their experienced sisters or just thinking it is cool may negotiate in USD. I think due to the smaller numerical value of USD, they may quote higher. Also, they probably won't get the exchange rate we get.

Being lazy and trying to avoid a discussion on the arbitrage of currencies (I am kidding), I just tell them, I don't have dollars, only pesos. That takes care of it. Also, these chicas are not very organized. I doubt they remember what they quoted. I had one chica who quoted 200 cop in messages. After arriving and being fed, and drinking and partying, when she was getting ready to leave, I asked her, how much I owed her, and she said 150 cop. So was thinking WTF. I gave her 200 cop and told her, the rest was for taxis and tip. She was very happy.

I don't like the hardcore professional ones, who specify duration, activities, leches etc. I don't engage with them, and I definitely don't repeat with them.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2466808]She looks pretty close to a 10 in my book with her makeup, don't care what she looks like without it as I am sure she would show up in her warpaint. $200 maybe if that includes some dinner / dancing etc before going back to the hotel.[/QUOTE]To each their own but The Tall Man wouldn't fuck her even with your dick as the expression goes. All fake and plastic and makeup, with a stare that gives you a peak into her soul which is nothing is happening much like looking at Joe Biden, hehehehe the lights are on but nobody is home. , nothing of substance.

Serious question. Are those big implants really attractive to you guys?

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466607]The biggest regret in my life so far is leaving Medellin 2 fucking weeks before this fucking quarantine. Why would I ever want to sneak out if I'm ready in heaven. Don't people pray for a lifetime so they can get to heaven and never have to leave?[/QUOTE]Man,

I was there in January, and planned on going back next week, but that trip's dead with the border still closed. There girls there were some of the best I've seen, so cheap too. There was one little chick at the Mansion, Angie, who I wanted to see again. She was some of the best pussy I ever had. I was hoping to hit raw next time I saw her too!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466741]The only way I can think of you getting back to Medellin quickly short of everything to date mentioned is that you would have to assume the identity of either a Colombian Citizen or perhaps a Colombian resident somewhere in the world who can return on a humanitarian flight approved by Colombian immigration. I am clueless as how you might go about doing this short of enlisting a CIA operative to assist you, and you might have to get a phony face like something out of a Tom Cruise movie. [/QUOTE]Wow, what a coincidence, one of my friend and I was just discussing the possibility of getting back to Medellin last night, we both think the best way is to buy a passport from a Colombian who lives in California and looks like me. I will mail the passport back to him as soon as I get into Medellin, it's an easy 5000 dollars for him.

Anyways, I will not divulge any more details about my plans here, in case the immigration officer in Medellin is reading this. All I know is that extreme measures must be taken if the September 1st date gets push back further.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466741]I will say this, when you do return, I am looking forward to your posts when you finally pull off some good foursomes. I think when you left you had the threesomes perfected, but were still working on the foursomes.[/QUOTE]I have three perfect 18 year olds who loves party with me for days, one of them turned 19 already, just 3 years away from retirement. The world is full of sad news right now.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2466726]Is the 3rd guy equal meaning close buddies with the guy you were video conferencing? Hard to tell by just passing by and he does not strike me as a big talker. If the 3rd guy hardly knows the guy you were on video with, then you owe him an apology for being a jerk and ignoring him.

General social priority goes to the friend live and in person first, second to the phone call, and lastly to a text or email. Maybe I am wrong but appeared that the 3rd guy was not at the same level of friendship thus meaning you took the video call as a priority over him. Not cool.[/QUOTE]Why do you care about all that?

Odd that you would comment about a guy and his phone conversation and how he treated his buddy Imo.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466754]That's good, I was in Colombia when obtaining my visa and they required it be sent to Bogota, so being able to renew in a Colombian consulate is good news, thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Yes. In Colombia, only in Bogota, except for extending the tourist visa, which can be handled at any immigration office. Outside of Colombia, at any Consulate or Embassy.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466852]Wow, what a coincidence, one of my friend and I was just discussing the possibility of getting back to Medellin last night, we both think the best way is to buy a passport from a Colombian who lives in California and looks like me. I will mail the passport back to him as soon as I get into Medellin, it's an easy 5000 dollars for him.[/QUOTE]Seems like you could find a ton of hots babes on Eros in Calif working with $5,000?

[URL]https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/sections/los_angeles_escorts.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2466844]Serious question. Are those big implants really attractive to you guys?
[/QUOTE]I don't consider hers big for her size frame, looks like very good work also. I like everything from be cup natural like Estrella from Fase II to full on Jessica Rabbit like Diana from Radual corner. If they are going to be big I prefer aftermarket, they don't disappear into the armpit when they lay down or sag.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2466844]To each their own but The Tall Man wouldn't fuck her even with your dick as the expression goes. All fake and plastic and makeup, with a stare that gives you a peak into her soul which is nothing is happening much like looking at Joe Biden, hehehehe the lights are on but nobody is home. , nothing of substance.

Serious question. Are those big implants really attractive to you guys?

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I had some similar thoughts, too perfect, with no imperfections, and just imagine all the rules!

However, and I say however, if she had no rules, was a total Nympho, wet and silky, totally into it, tight as a drum, and you could bare-back her along with blowing a load in her, would you re-consider?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466852]Wow, what a coincidence, one of my friend and I was just discussing the possibility of getting back to Medellin last night, we both think the best way is to buy a passport from a Colombian who lives in California and looks like me. I will mail the passport back to him as soon as I get into Medellin, it's an easy 5000 dollars for him.

Anyways, I will not divulge any more details about my plans here, in case the immigration officer in Medellin is reading this. All I know is that extreme measures must be taken if the September 1st date gets push back further.

I have three perfect 18 year olds who loves party with me for days, one of them turned 19 already, just 3 years away from retirement. The world is full of sad news right now.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a plan, but begs a couple of questions, like how will you be getting out of the Country without a Passport, or will you figure that out when you get there. Also, how are you going to handle answering any questions if asked by immigration unless you speak Colombian Spanish.

I'm beginning to believe you have been pulling the wool over everyone's eye's (at least mine) with all these wacky ideas as how to get back to Medellin. I believed your posts when you where there, but these of lately don't seem to add up being so far fetched as the logistics and details don't seem to be thought thru. Regardless, maybe shortly you will magically appear out of the blue in Medellin, and make a believer out of those who think your nuts in this quest like me.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2466726]Saw the posse (The Tallman, PolloNegro, and 3rd guy) around 10:00 am. But only as they past by when I turned my head. It was Sunday with less chicks. I needed to get laid and get some numbers before lock down. They may start kicking people out early like 3 pm. Never know.

Saw The Tallman and the 3rd guy a few hours later in front of Museum. The Tallman you were just waving that phone around like you just don't care (haha. That if a verse in a song I can not remember). You were on a video call holding that phone at arms length away. You were talking to the 3rd guy, the person on the phone, all while trying to video the surroundings and yourselves. Not paying any attention to who or what was happening around you while holding your phone so far away from your body. Shocking.

About 40 minutes later pass by The Tallman and the 3rd guy near front of Premier Plaza Suite still on video call. So much time on the phone I think maybe you are a girl.

Is the 3rd guy equal meaning close buddies with the guy you were video conferencing? Hard to tell by just passing by and he does not strike me as a big talker. If the 3rd guy hardly knows the guy you were on video with, then you owe him an apology for being a jerk and ignoring him.

General social priority goes to the friend live and in person first, second to the phone call, and lastly to a text or email. Maybe I am wrong but appeared that the 3rd guy was not at the same level of friendship thus meaning you took the video call as a priority over him. Not cool.[/QUOTE]This is one of the weirdest, creepiest posts I have seen here or elsewhere in a long time. What the hell? You deserve the lashing T. M. responded with.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2466890]This is one of the weirdest, creepiest posts I have seen here or elsewhere in a long time. What the hell? You deserve the lashing T. M. responded with.[/QUOTE]And now that TM has chopped him down and put him in his place, he's going to need an umbrella so that when the ants take a piss he won't get wet.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466852]Wow, what a coincidence, one of my friend and I was just discussing the possibility of getting back to Medellin last night, we both think the best way is to buy a passport from a Colombian who lives in California and looks like me. I will mail the passport back to him as soon as I get into Medellin, it's an easy 5000 dollars for him.

Anyways, I will not divulge any more details about my plans here, in case the immigration officer in Medellin is reading this. All I know is that extreme measures must be taken if the September 1st date gets push back further.

I have three perfect 18 year olds who loves party with me for days, one of them turned 19 already, just 3 years away from retirement. The world is full of sad news right now.[/QUOTE]Wow. And get caught in Colombia in that scam and you will never be seen again. They will know you are not him. And since they don't know and don't care who you really are you will no longer exist.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2466890]This is one of the weirdest, creepiest posts I have seen here or elsewhere in a long time. What the hell? You deserve the lashing T. M. responded with.[/QUOTE]Can't be sure but I think it's a joke.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466852]Wow, what a coincidence, one of my friend and I was just discussing the possibility of getting back to Medellin last night, we both think the best way is to buy a passport from a Colombian who lives in California and looks like me. I will mail the passport back to him as soon as I get into Medellin, it's an easy 5000 dollars for him.

Anyways, I will not divulge any more details about my plans here, in case the immigration officer in Medellin is reading this. All I know is that extreme measures must be taken if the September 1st date gets push back further.

I have three perfect 18 year olds who loves party with me for days, one of them turned 19 already, just 3 years away from retirement. The world is full of sad news right now.[/QUOTE]Please get a grip on reality. Maybe you're just playing out made-for -TV movie script in your head. But if it's that crucial to your existence in the short term, you can find 18 year olds in Mexico. And I suppose, college freshman types on seeking arrangements, ashley madison, or even tinder.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2466903]Wow. And get caught in Colombia in that scam and you will never be seen again. They will know you are not him. And since they don't know and don't care who you really are you will no longer exist.[/QUOTE]What are the chances of a Colombian immigration agent figuring out the guy with a Colombian passport, who can't speak Spanish, isn't a native?

Probably won't disappear, although 2 years in a Colombian prison is probably worse. A lifetime ban from ever entering Colombia again probably won't be fun either.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2466903]Wow. And get caught in Colombia in that scam and you will never be seen again. They will know you are not him. And since they don't know and don't care who you really are you will no longer exist.[/QUOTE]I'm too sober nowadays for philosophical arguments. Your definition of existence seems a bit superficial. I don't know where you found the confidence to conclude that my endeavor will end in a certain failure, but do us a favor, use that same oracle to tell us when will the border open or what's tomorrow's lottery number.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2466910]Please get a grip on reality. Maybe you're just playing out made-for -TV movie script in your head. But if it's that crucial to your existence in the short term, you can find 18 year olds in Mexico. And I suppose, college freshman types on seeking arrangements, ashley Madison, or even tinder.[/QUOTE]It's crucial to my existence to reunite with my 12 girl friends in Medellin. It's hard to find 12 18-year-olds to have foursomes or fivesome 24/7 for weeks at a time. I've invested a ton of precious time and tens of thousands of dollars to build up the relationship. The experience is unparalleled and as far as I know, I can't find it easily anywhere on earth.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2466824]I just looked at the map. I think you can get to Quito and it is closer to Medellin than going thru Peru.[/QUOTE]Thanks for looking this up and supporting my endeavor. Is Eduardo open for flights from the US? I have been googling the path from Quito to the Colombian border, trying plan out a scenic route. It's easier to sneak across by land. I will bring two passports, one purchased authentic Colombian passport with a photo that look like me, and my US passport, just in case my existence become questionable. I will put 500 dollars in each of them for the border officer to find, I will observe their reaction when they discover the money and adopt to the situation.

I have only met with FB chicas who have accepted my friend requests. I know we can message them without being friended. Does that work to setup a cita with them? What is the response rate like?

Also, I want to meet some semi pros or non pros, like students, workers etc. What are good places to meet them, either in person or online.

Anyone, had success with airline or airport employees? I generally see some fine ones there but usually in a hurry to strike a conversation.

I am hoping for the bordes reopening just so the level of thirst gets back to a realistic zone. It is starting to spiral I to some troubling places. Guys need to be careful about doing anything reckless in theor home countries that can get you a criminal record.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2466910]Please get a grip on reality. Maybe you're just playing out made-for -TV movie script in your head. But if it's that crucial to your existence in the short term, you can find 18 year olds in Mexico. And I suppose, college freshman types on seeking arrangements, ashley madison, or even tinder.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2466844]To each their own but The Tall Man wouldn't fuck her even with your dick as the expression goes. All fake and plastic and makeup, with a stare that gives you a peak into her soul which is nothing is happening much like looking at Joe Biden, hehehehe the lights are on but nobody is home. , nothing of substance.

Serious question. Are those big implants really attractive to you guys?

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I have seen a few boob jobs that turned out incredible. I've seen several that turned out pretty good. Unfortunately, there are plenty that didn't turn out so well.

I prefer natural and firm, although a bit of sag is understandable for the larger ones. If the nipples are staring at the floor, count me out. Mostly, I'll stick with medium to small breasts, although a firm tetona is a nice change of pace.

What I don't like are the ones with fucked up nipples, obvious scars or that look as if they're about to explode. I remember way back, a dancer at Pacers in San Diego. Gorgeous face. Started out as a Be cup. Her third implants took her to DD and she wanted to go bigger. Looked like someone crossed Jessica Rabbit with the bride of Frankenstein.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2466930]I have only met with FB chicas who have accepted my friend requests. I know we can message them without being friended. Does that work to setup a cita with them? What is the response rate like?

Also, I want to meet some semi pros or non pros, like students, workers etc. What are good places to meet them, either in person or online.

Anyone, had success with airline or airport employees? I generally see some fine ones there but usually in a hurry to strike a conversation.[/QUOTE]Why would it make a difference if you are friends with them? They want your money. That's all. Just message them and they will message you back. After a couple of messages switch to whatsapp or not--but there is ZERO need to be friends wit them. I don't know why people 'friend' these girls when everything can be handled via private messages and all of their pictures are usually public anyway.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466920]Thanks for looking this up and supporting my endeavor. Is Eduardo open for flights from the US? I have been googling the path from Quito to the Colombian border, trying plan out a scenic route. It's easier to sneak across by land. I will bring two passports, one purchased authentic Colombian passport with a photo that look like me, and my US passport, just in case my existence become questionable. I will put 500 dollars in each of them for the border officer to find, I will observe their reaction when they discover the money and adopt to the situation.[/QUOTE]OK you aren't looking for any advice unless it confirms what you want to do. I get it. Let me just ask you a few questions. Let's say you were successful (I rate the chances as very close to -0-) and you try to use the Colombian passport. When they scan the passport they will immediately see that it was used to enter the United States BUT there is no entry for exiting the US. What? They will immediately realize something is effed up and will call you in to discuss it. How is your Spanish? Are you super fluent and if so is it with a Colombian accent? They are going to make you as an imposter within 30 seconds.

OK let's say somehow unlikely though it may be, that your bribe works (I doubt it will) and they let you in. What next? You mail the passport back to the owner right? But that passport will have an entry into Colombia but no entry into the US. When your "friend" tries to use his passport in the future it will set off warning bells at the immigration desk when he tries to enter Colombia and the stamp shows he already entered but never left. Likewise my friend, if you ever try to use your US passport to go back home after you have had your fill of tail and you don't get caught in Colombia, when you enter the US your passport will show that you left the US but never had an entry stamp anywhere (you used the Colombian passport to get in) and now you are trying to reenter after having gone nowhere for some huge amount of time. You're going to end up in jail. Maybe a Colombian jail, or if you get really lucky, a US jail.

I hope this helps. I know it isn't what you want to hear but hey, I can't read your posts if you are incarcerated.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2466879]I don't consider hers big for her size frame, looks like very good work also. I like everything from be cup natural like Estrella from Fase II to full on Jessica Rabbit like Diana from Radual corner. If they are going to be big I prefer aftermarket, they don't disappear into the armpit when they lay down or sag.[/QUOTE]Much love and respect to all as we all have a different taste for what floats our boat, mine is the all natural with no plastic nor other surgery's, none to just a few tasteful tattoos, no smoking, great youthful smile with a zeal for life.

Such is the case as my girl from bello shown here. This is what I see when we wake up in the morning. Met her through a friend 3 plus years ago when she was not quite 18 so yes did wait but wow what a birthday celebration it was.

I am still in contact with her to this day and see her much less than before for no other reason is that she is the type of girl you can get feelings for.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466880]I had some similar thoughts, too perfect, with no imperfections, and just imagine all the rules!

However, and I say however, if she had no rules, was a total Nympho, wet and silky, totally into it, tight as a drum, and you could bare-back her along with blowing a load in her, would you re-consider?[/QUOTE]Mummmm very interesting question, if the price was reasonable and if you caught me in the mood yes could be just to pump and dump and be on my way. Yes I have done this before in past years at places like Fase Dos, not often, I could probably count on one hand how many and yet never repeated with any of them.

The Tall Man.

I've said this before. I can work around a good job but I prefer natural. I think everyone prefers natural. When it comes to any kind of ass augmentation I am out with a capital O. It's instant boner killer.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467106]I have seen a few boob jobs that turned out incredible. I've seen several that turned out pretty good. Unfortunately, there are plenty that didn't turn out so well.

I prefer natural and firm, although a bit of sag is understandable for the larger ones. If the nipples are staring at the floor, count me out. Mostly, I'll stick with medium to small breasts, although a firm tetona is a nice change of pace.

What I don't like are the ones with fucked up nipples, obvious scars or that look as if they're about to explode. I remember way back, a dancer at Pacers in San Diego. Gorgeous face. Started out as a Be cup. Her third implants took her to DD and she wanted to go bigger. Looked like someone crossed Jessica Rabbit with the bride of Frankenstein.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466920]Thanks for looking this up and supporting my endeavor. Is Eduardo open for flights from the US? I have been googling the path from Quito to the Colombian border, trying plan out a scenic route. It's easier to sneak across by land. I will bring two passports, one purchased authentic Colombian passport with a photo that look like me, and my US passport, just in case my existence become questionable. I will put 500 dollars in each of them for the border officer to find, I will observe their reaction when they discover the money and adopt to the situation.[/QUOTE]From google search, Ecuador is open but you need to take a test and quarantine. It is not clear if there are any other conditions. You need to double check.

I am rooting for you but this latest passport idea is reckless.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2467125]OK you aren't looking for any advice unless it confirms what you want to do. I get it. Let me just ask you a few questions. Let's say you were successful (I rate the chances as very close to -0-) and you try to use the Colombian passport. When they scan the passport they will immediately see that it was used to enter the United States BUT there is no entry for exiting the US. What? They will immediately realize something is effed up and will call you in to discuss it. How is your Spanish? Are you super fluent and if so is it with a Colombian accent? They are going to make you as an imposter within 30 seconds.

OK let's say somehow unlikely though it may be, that your bribe works (I doubt it will) and they let you in. What next? You mail the passport back to the owner right? But that passport will have an entry into Colombia but no entry into the US. When your "friend" tries to use his passport in the future it will set off warning bells at the immigration desk when he tries to enter Colombia and the stamp shows he already entered but never left. Likewise my friend, if you ever try to use your US passport to go back home after you have had your fill of tail and you don't get caught in Colombia, when you enter the US your passport will show that you left the US but never had an entry stamp anywhere (you used the Colombian passport to get in) and now you are trying to reenter after having gone nowhere for some huge amount of time..[/QUOTE]I am not encouraging breaking the law etc. This is purely a thought exercise.

As far as I know, US only does entry stamps and not exit stamps, for non US passport holders. Not sure if they do entry stamps for US passport holders. With global entry they don't stamp anything while entering the country for US passports.

Many countries including Colombia do entry and exit stamps for foreigners. Not sure how closely they match them up, but they are usually stamped close by.

Also, there is the situation with dual citizenship / passport holders. Say US and Colombian passports. Usually, the standard operating procedure for this scenario is to enter and exit each country with its own passport. So the stamps don't match up, unless both the passports are examined together.

As far as I know, US will admit it's citizens, as long as they prove citizenship. I don't think they really care how you left the country. Not sure what Colombian policy is on admitting it's citizens.

So there may be enough loopholes to pull it off, but getting caught could cause serious trouble.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466920]Thanks for looking this up and supporting my endeavor. Is Eduardo open for flights from the US? I have been googling the path from Quito to the Colombian border, trying plan out a scenic route. It's easier to sneak across by land. I will bring two passports, one purchased authentic Colombian passport with a photo that look like me, and my US passport, just in case my existence become questionable. I will put 500 dollars in each of them for the border officer to find, I will observe their reaction when they discover the money and adopt to the situation.[/QUOTE]Do most people with Colombian passports speak Spanish? Lol.

I feel your angst and desire to get to Colombia brotha Jobs, but tranquilzate man hehe.

I wish you luck if you really decide to act on these schemes, however foolish they may seem.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2466910]Please get a grip on reality. Maybe you're just playing out made-for -TV movie script in your head. But if it's that crucial to your existence in the short term, you can find 18 year olds in Mexico. And I suppose, college freshman types on seeking arrangements, ashley madison, or even tinder.[/QUOTE]Seriously. Spending $5 k on a passport and risking jail time for pp. Could easily get latinas in Mexico or Costa Rica (both open to intl flights) if money isn't a problem.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2467128]Much love and respect to all as we all have a different taste for what floats our boat, mine is the all natural with no plastic nor other surgery's, none to just a few tasteful tattoos, no smoking, great youthful smile with a zeal for life.

Such is the case as my girl from bello shown here. This is what I see when we wake up in the morning. Met her through a friend 3 plus years ago when she was not quite 18 so yes did wait but wow what a birthday celebration it was.

I am still in contact with her to this day and see her much less than before for no other reason is that she is the type of girl you can get feelings for.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]That booty is below avg for a Colombian right? If you like spinners, tons in SE asia.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2467132]I've said this before. I can work around a good job but I prefer natural. I think everyone prefers natural. When it comes to any kind of ass augmentation I am out with a capital O. It's instant boner killer.[/QUOTE]The fake ass looks great in photos, but way too big for my liking when smashing. Some of them overdo it with the breast and ass implants that it looks ridiculous.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2466838]LOL, the way you put it. I agreed with you, but want to add that, some of the inexperienced chicas, based on tutoring from their experienced sisters or just thinking it is cool may negotiate in USD. I think due to the smaller numerical value of USD, they may quote higher. Also, they probably won't get the exchange rate we get.

Being lazy and trying to avoid a discussion on the arbitrage of currencies (I am kidding), I just tell them, I don't have dollars, only pesos. That takes care of it. Also, these chicas are not very organized. I doubt they remember what they quoted. I had one chica who quoted 200 cop in messages. After arriving and being fed, and drinking and partying, when she was getting ready to leave, I asked her, how much I owed her, and she said 150 cop. So was thinking WTF. I gave her 200 cop and told her, the rest was for taxis and tip. She was very happy.
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I had a couple girls in Gusto's, just prior to quarantine, quote me in USD. At the time, the value was sky-rocketing, and their quotes were not in-line with what they thought. For instance, a quote of $200 USD was around 650-700k, in her mind, but in reality, was about 800k. So, if a girl is targeting Gringos at $200, she is likely not adjusting her price, accordingly. I always ask the Dollar-Quoters how much in pesos, just to see how their conversion rate is compared to reality.

For all those interested in the SJobs Mission Impossible remake. I would imagine that if you're bribing immigration officials to enter the country, that NOT STAMPING THE PASSPORT, might also be an option.

Why have we not considered sky jumping out of an agriculture / cargo plane, and then just sneaking back into Peru whenever (if ever) you want to leave Colombia? What kind of suitcase do you use? You could carry a pre-translated / printed letter, explaining you want to get to Medellin for $500 USD. I'd like to see some one poke holes in this idea!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467185]

For all those interested in the SJobs Mission Impossible remake. I would imagine that if you're bribing immigration officials to enter the country, that NOT STAMPING THE PASSPORT, might also be an option.

Why have we not considered sky jumping out of an agriculture / cargo plane, and then just sneaking back into Peru whenever (if ever) you want to leave Colombia? What kind of suitcase do you use? You could carry a pre-translated / printed letter, explaining you want to get to Medellin for $500 USD. I'd like to see some one poke holes in this idea![/QUOTE]Not stamping the Passport doesn't matter as upon entry the arrival date is recorded in their system so whether their is a stamp or not, it will be in their system. So if the Passport is not stamped and the immigration officer doesn't swipe and log the arrival in the system, exiting the Country will be a problem. It should be noted that Colombia does have an automated entry system into the Country similar to Global Entry in the USA that if your signed up for it you don't even see an immigration officer upon entry, you just go to a kiosk and I think they have a bio-metric scanning system.

Getting back on topic, as far as the next Mission Impossible movie or Amazing Race show, another member commented to me that he thinks that these posts about returning to Colombia, like I do, are total fiction.

Several months back we had a similar poster who was a very creative writer with plausible stories, yet in the end everyone got fed up with the posts and that poster departed. The posts were entertaining at the beginning and somewhat believable, yet as they went on, they become more and more ludicrous, and started to piss every one off.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467106]What I don't like are the ones with fucked up nipples, obvious scars or that look as if they're about to explode. I remember way back, a dancer at Pacers in San Diego. Gorgeous face. Started out as a Be cup. Her third implants took her to DD and she wanted to go bigger. Looked like someone crossed Jessica Rabbit with the bride of Frankenstein.[/QUOTE]I'm not a boob reconstruction expert yet since you know more than I in this department, are nipples also reconstructed as well? And if so what do they do to them.

The reason I ask is because I love tootsie roll nipples on women, yet very few have them. The biggest I ever encountered were on a woman in Cambodia, and they were great to suck on!

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2467160]Seriously. Spending $5 k on a passport and risking jail time for pp. Could easily get latinas in Mexico or Costa Rica (both open to intl flights) if money isn't a problem.[/QUOTE]Costa Rica will open in August. I thought about going there. I know Costa Rica well, I can't find comparable experience in Costa Rica compare to Medellin. 5 k for a passport is not an issue, jail time bothers me a bit, but life is all taking risk.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2467156]I am not encouraging breaking the law etc. This is purely a thought exercise.

As far as I know, US only does entry stamps and not exit stamps, for non US passport holders. Not sure if they do entry stamps for US passport holders. With global entry they don't stamp anything while entering the country for US passports.

Many countries including Colombia do entry and exit stamps for foreigners. Not sure how closely they match them up, but they are usually stamped close by.

Also, there is the situation with dual citizenship / passport holders. Say US and Colombian passports. Usually, the standard operating procedure for this scenario is to enter and exit each country with its own passport. So the stamps don't match up, unless both the passports are examined together.

As far as I know, US will admit it's citizens, as long as they prove citizenship. I don't think they really care how you left the country. Not sure what Colombian policy is on admitting it's citizens.

So there may be enough loopholes to pull it off, but getting caught could cause serious trouble.[/QUOTE]All the entries are scanned in. The system will immediately light up that entries and exits aren't in agreement and that is where the problems start.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467185]For all those interested in the SJobs Mission Impossible remake. I would imagine that if you're bribing immigration officials to enter the country, that NOT STAMPING THE PASSPORT, might also be an option.[/QUOTE]I'm enjoying the discussion about illicit entry into Colombia. If we entertain the never-corroborated stories about a single shot-caller at Botero, then this scenario is also possible.

I wanted to add that I've crossed by foot from El Paso into Mexico, two times with the entry station closed and not getting stamped. I did have to obtain the stamp at CDMX airport both times. So land entry into counties without a stamp is possible. And I'd imagine it's definitely possible at the Venezuela / Colombia border.

I travel on two passports. I always leave the states on my USA passport and travel on my other passport. Thus, when I return to the states and present my USA passport that does not have any stamps in it, I've never been so much as questioned about it.

I'm rooting for you, SJobs.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2467055]I am hoping for the bordes reopening just so the level of thirst gets back to a realistic zone. It is starting to spiral I to some troubling places. Guys need to be careful about doing anything reckless in theor home countries that can get you a criminal record.[/QUOTE]And be careful about doing anything in Colombia which will get you forever removed from Colombia as well.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2466930]I have only met with FB chicas who have accepted my friend requests. I know we can message them without being friended. Does that work to setup a cita with them? What is the response rate like?

Also, I want to meet some semi pros or non pros, like students, workers etc. What are good places to meet them, either in person or online.

Anyone, had success with airline or airport employees? I generally see some fine ones there but usually in a hurry to strike a conversation.[/QUOTE]If they've added you on Facebook, chances are they are open to setup a cita. After a few exchanges I'll just say "Quiero verte. " That's usually all it takes.

I don't know if there is a bad place to find semi pros. Anywhere you see one you're interested in, give her a smile and start talking. Can't guarantee success, but if you keep it classy she'll at least listen to you.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2466915]I'm too sober nowadays for philosophical arguments. Your definition of existence seems a bit superficial. I don't know where you found the confidence to conclude that my endeavor will end in a certain failure, but do us a favor, use that same oracle to tell us when will the border open or what's tomorrow's lottery number.[/QUOTE]Nothing is certain. But some things are high probability, with bad consequences, and some things are low probability with good consequences. I think your schemes are at best wishful thinking. The countries you are referring to have a history of all kinds of criminal travel and substance transport for years. And they are well equipped to spot things, and deal with things. And the gifts you refer to in another post lack a couple of zeros, at least, to be in the league they are used to dealing in.

Fine to have a fantasy, but leave it at that. Or go ahead and do it and post how well it worked. It will be great reading. Although my guess is that we will never see the last chapter. But, whatever floats your boat man.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2466902]he's going to need an umbrella so that when the ants take a piss he won't get wet.[/QUOTE]I don't know what this means but the image it presents is quite funny. How did you come up with this?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2467193]Costa Rica will open in August. I thought about going there. I know Costa Rica well, I can't find comparable experience in Costa Rica compare to Medellin. 5 k for a passport is not an issue, jail time bothers me a bit, but life is all taking risk.[/QUOTE]The 5 K for the passport could be used to spend on the pussy in Costa Rica. That would cover a lot of the price difference. Not been to Costa Rica in a few years, but I am sure, with shut down etc, the Chicas there are ready to lower the rates. Even Costa Rica has gringo pricing, but I am sure the supply and demand will lower it. Plus there were a tonne of Colombian and Nicaraguan working girls in Costa Rica. Some times we have to make do, LOL.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467185]I had a couple girls in Gusto's, just prior to quarantine, quote me in USD. At the time, the value was sky-rocketing, and their quotes were not in-line with what they thought. For instance, a quote of $200 USD was around 650-700k, in her mind, but in reality, was about 800k. So, if a girl is targeting Gringos at $200, she is likely not adjusting her price, accordingly. I always ask the Dollar-Quoters how much in pesos, just to see how their conversion rate is compared to reality.

For all those interested in the SJobs Mission Impossible remake. I would imagine that if you're bribing immigration officials to enter the country, that NOT STAMPING THE PASSPORT, might also be an option.

Why have we not considered sky jumping out of an agriculture / cargo plane, and then just sneaking back into Peru whenever (if ever) you want to leave Colombia? What kind of suitcase do you use? You could carry a pre-translated / printed letter, explaining you want to get to Medellin for $500 USD. I'd like to see some one poke holes in this idea![/QUOTE]Jumping from planes may not be feasible, unless they had previous paratrooper training, but I think the easiest way to get into Colombia might be on a cargo ship. There is no ban on shipping into and out of the country. Bribe a ship captain to be a crew member of the ship. Once you get to Colombia, fake some illness to get off the ship and into a hospital. "Recover" from your illness for however long it takes you. Once you are done, leave normally if international travel is opened, or get on a humanitarian flight.

No need for fake passport, bribing immigration officials etc. All you need to manage are the ship captain and a Colombian doctor. You can say you had extreme food poisoning and you need to rest and recuperate for a few days. You will get all your proper entry and exit stamps etc. Everything is perfectly legal. There is no diagnostic test for food poisoning, so no evidence once you recover. No need to cross shady territory with unsavory characters.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2467160]Seriously. Spending $5 k on a passport and risking jail time for pp. Could easily get latinas in Mexico or Costa Rica (both open to intl flights) if money isn't a problem.[/QUOTE]Actually Costa Rica is not open. And probably won't be open to US tourists after Aug 1, the next potential opening date.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2467190]I'm not a boob reconstruction expert yet since you know more than I in this department, are nipples also reconstructed as well? And if so what do they do to them.

The reason I ask is because I love tootsie roll nipples on women, yet very few have them. The biggest I ever encountered were on a woman in Cambodia, and they were great to suck on![/QUOTE]There's nothing they can do with nipples that I know of. I don't know about today, but with breast cancer, if the nipple must be removed they give an option of tattooing nipples during the reconstruction.

I've most often found the nipples you seek on Asian women.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2467193]Costa Rica will open in August. I thought about going there. I know Costa Rica well, I can't find comparable experience in Costa Rica compare to Medellin. 5 k for a passport is not an issue, jail time bothers me a bit, but life is all taking risk.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking you don't understand the Colombian Justice system.

In Colombia they don't arrest you, set bail and let you out until the trial. They arrest you and send you to jail. Shortly thereafter they send you to prison to wait until they have finished building their case against you. There is no time limit. From what I've heard, 1 to 2 years is expected. If they decide you aren't worth prosecuting, they'll check with the prison to find out if you're still alive. If you are, you'll be taken to the airport and sent out with a do not return notice. If they decide to prosecute you, they'll go through the motions, convict you and decide how much longer you get to stay in the prison. When you're released, to the airport, get out, don't come back.

Before you take the risk, head down to Tijuana. Do something to get arrested. It used to be pretty easy. Just get drunk and look for a police officer. Spend a few days in the Tijuana jail before asking if you can pay a fine and go home. At least then you'll have a tiny glimmer of an idea about spending a few years in a Colombian prison.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2467121]Why would it make a difference if you are friends with them? They want your money. That's all. Just message them and they will message you back. After a couple of messages switch to whatsapp or not--but there is ZERO need to be friends wit them. I don't know why people 'friend' these girls when everything can be handled via private messages and all of their pictures are usually public anyway.[/QUOTE]Why does it make a difference?

First the practical aspect. It's 9:30 am. I just popped open Messenger and saw that I've got 29 chica friends who are currently active on Facebook. That means I've got 29 options who will probably respond to a message right now. This is quite useful when your 11 pm chica cancels or turns out to not be up to your standards. At any time, day or night, if I'm looking, I don't need to send 30 messages and hope one answers. I can send 5 and know at least 3 will answer.

It's also useful for finding new options. Chica posts a picture and some other chica comments, check her out. Friends with a prepago. Has photos like a prepago. Might be a prepago.

Then there are the chica groups. Add the right 3 or 4 girls, have a cita with a couple of them, and the next day you've got 10 more wanting to talk to you about a cita.

It's also useful if you're looking for certain things. Want a girl who will bring you weed or tussi? You'll quickly figure out which ones have what you want. Want to know which one doesn't have the tacky tattoos? Or which one doesn't have kids? It will all scroll past every day. You'll learn which one is always whining and which one is always smiling.

For aesthetic purposes, you'll also see several dozen nice photos and videos every day, ranging from photos with mama to nearly full nude (Colombia Facebook censors aren't very strict). Which gives you a chance to spot the fake boobs and fake asses.

On the fake ass subject, I'm 100% on that Knowledge. Fake asses make me wilt like 10 day old lettuce.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2467199]I'm enjoying the discussion about illicit entry into Colombia. If we entertain the never-corroborated stories about a single shot-caller at Botero, then this scenario is also possible.
[/QUOTE]Anytime you have any doubts about any of my post, we can always sit down as men and confirm and call up any of the girls who you have doubts about. I can not corroborate that you walked into and out of Mexico, but I won't throw shade and critique your post. Are you afraid that I might be able to prove everything that I have posted. You want to corroborate my stories, we have to meet like men and go out and test your theory, then again, these computer geniuses want to be heard and not seen. Good day Lugnut, know, anytime you'd like to meet in Medellin, just PM an address or a location and I will show up without delay. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2467236]Jumping from planes may not be feasible[/QUOTE]Let me respectfully disagree on this. I have seen it done by Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando without even crumpling his jacket.
I think he too was supposed to enter some country in Latin America without regular passport.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2467187]Not stamping the Passport doesn't matter as upon entry the arrival date is recorded in their system so whether their is a stamp or not, it will be in their system. So if the Passport is not stamped and the immigration officer doesn't swipe and log the arrival in the system, exiting the Country will be a problem. It should be noted that Colombia does have an automated entry system into the Country similar to Global Entry in the USA that if your signed up for it you don't even see an immigration officer upon entry, you just go to a kiosk and I think they have a bio-metric scanning system.

Getting back on topic, as far as the next Mission Impossible movie or Amazing Race show, another member commented to me that he thinks that these posts about returning to Colombia, like I do, are total fiction.

Several months back we had a similar poster who was a very creative writer with plausible stories, yet in the end everyone got fed up with the posts and that poster departed. The posts were entertaining at the beginning and somewhat believable, yet as they went on, they become more and more ludicrous, and started to piss every one off.[/QUOTE]My point was not having the entry processed, whatsoever. If an officer is willing to be bribed for entry, why not for untraceable entry?

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2467236]Jumping from planes may not be feasible, unless they had previous paratrooper training, but I think the easiest way to get into Colombia might be on a cargo ship. There is no ban on shipping into and out of the country. Bribe a ship captain to be a crew member of the ship. Once you get to Colombia, fake some illness to get off the ship and into a hospital. "Recover" from your illness for however long it takes you. Once you are done, leave normally if international travel is opened, or get on a humanitarian flight.

No need for fake passport, bribing immigration officials etc. All you need to manage are the ship captain and a Colombian doctor. You can say you had extreme food poisoning and you need to rest and recuperate for a few days. You will get all your proper entry and exit stamps etc. Everything is perfectly legal. There is no diagnostic test for food poisoning, so no evidence once you recover. No need to cross shady territory with unsavory characters.[/QUOTE]This is everything. Aside from forgetting the part where the script is written, this is what 2020 needs. More MMHikeus!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467437]My point was not having the entry processed, whatsoever. If an officer is willing to be bribed for entry, why not for untraceable entry?[/QUOTE]And once you get stopped by immigration while out in the city (as I have reported on happening to me before), and they want to see the stamp in your passport, then what?

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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467297]I'm thinking you don't understand the Colombian Justice system.

In Colombia they don't arrest you, set bail and let you out until the trial. They arrest you and send you to jail. Shortly thereafter they send you to prison to wait until they have finished building their case against you. There is no time limit. From what I've heard, 1 to 2 years is expected. If they decide you aren't worth prosecuting, they'll check with the prison to find out if you're still alive. If you are, you'll be taken to the airport and sent out with a do not return notice. If they decide to prosecute you, they'll go through the motions, convict you and decide how much longer you get to stay in the prison. When you're released, to the airport, get out, don't come back.

Before you take the risk, head down to Tijuana. Do something to get arrested. It used to be pretty easy. Just get drunk and look for a police officer. Spend a few days in the Tijuana jail before asking if you can pay a fine and go home. At least then you'll have a tiny glimmer of an idea about spending a few years in a Colombian prison.[/QUOTE]The fellow should read your post and then get his silly notions out of his head. We all in sex prison are hurting but I for one will not kid myself with pipe dreams. It will open up when the powers to be say so. If I want to speculate I will go to the casino or the horse track. I will not waste my time trying to figure when those in power will allow me to get my dick wet.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2467453]And once you get stopped by immigration while out in the city (as I have reported on happening to me before), and they want to see the stamp in your passport, then what?[/QUOTE]You kidding, right? Always have some dollars in you pocket to bribe the cops, this is rule number one when rolling in a developing country.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2467483]The fellow should read your post and then get his silly notions out of his head. We all in sex prison are hurting but I for one will not kid myself with pipe dreams. It will open up when the powers to be say so. If I want to speculate I will go to the casino or the horse track. I will not waste my time trying to figure when those in power will allow me to get my dick wet.[/QUOTE]Agree with everything you said, except that no one is in "sex prision. " That common monger board proclamation is only of self-pity. Money talks. I've been getting laid all week, American girls. No one has any trouble here unless they are broke.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467297]Before you take the risk, head down to Tijuana. Do something to get arrested. It used to be pretty easy. Just get drunk and look for a police officer. Spend a few days in the Tijuana jail before asking if you can pay a fine and go home. At least then you'll have a tiny glimmer of an idea about spending a few years in a Colombian prison.[/QUOTE]Interesting you bring this up, because if he did head down to Tijuana, he could instead of getting thrown in the slammer, actually hit up one of the main clubs / bars which are currently open that include Adelitas, Hong Kong, and Chicago Club, or do one of the street girls in the alley or along Constitution Ave in Zona Norte.

I was there a few weeks ago and pussy is to be had, albeit not even close to what Medellin has to offer, but you can't beat the food.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2467453]And once you get stopped by immigration while out in the city (as I have reported on happening to me before), and they want to see the stamp in your passport, then what?[/QUOTE]Then, my friend, then, we have our book deal!

Well, you never know, maybe one of our members is really Jason Bourne.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2467483]The fellow should read your post and then get his silly notions out of his head. We all in sex prison are hurting but I for one will not kid myself with pipe dreams. It will open up when the powers to be say so. If I want to speculate I will go to the casino or the horse track. I will not waste my time trying to figure when those in power will allow me to get my dick wet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467437]This is everything. Aside from forgetting the part where the script is written, this is what 2020 needs. More MMHikeus![/QUOTE]LOL. Not sure if your comment is appreciative of critical. I am just spitballing here out of sheer boredom. I just want let it be known that I have no expertise in this, and these are just my ideas watching TV and Movies. Please use at your own risk. I don't want to be responsible for anyone getting into trouble.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467297]I'm thinking you don't understand the Colombian Justice system.

In Colombia they don't arrest you, set bail and let you out until the trial. They arrest you and send you to jail. Shortly thereafter they send you to prison to wait until they have finished building their case against you. There is no time limit. From what I've heard, 1 to 2 years is expected. If they decide you aren't worth prosecuting, they'll check with the prison to find out if you're still alive. If you are, you'll be taken to the airport and sent out with a do not return notice. If they decide to prosecute you, they'll go through the motions, convict you and decide how much longer you get to stay in the prison. When you're released, to the airport, get out, don't come back.

Before you take the risk, head down to Tijuana. Do something to get arrested. It used to be pretty easy. Just get drunk and look for a police officer. Spend a few days in the Tijuana jail before asking if you can pay a fine and go home. At least then you'll have a tiny glimmer of an idea about spending a few years in a Colombian prison.[/QUOTE]I remember years ago I used to read posts on this Medellin thread by a guy who actually ended up in a Colombian jail. It did not end well for him.

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2467199]

I wanted to add that I've crossed by foot from El Paso into Mexico, two times with the entry station closed and not getting stamped. [/QUOTE]My experience going to Tijuana is that sometimes there are so many people returning to Mexico side, the agents just wave everyone thru, no stamp at all.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2467453]And once you get stopped by immigration while out in the city (as I have reported on happening to me before), and they want to see the stamp in your passport, then what?[/QUOTE]Another $500?

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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467379]Why does it make a difference?

First the practical aspect. It's 9:30 am. I just popped open Messenger and saw that I've got 29 chica friends who are currently active on Facebook. That means I've got 29 options who will probably respond to a message right now. This is quite useful when your 11 pm chica cancels or turns out to not be up to your standards. At any time, day or night, if I'm looking, I don't need to send 30 messages and hope one answers. I can send 5 and know at least 3 will answer.

It's also useful for finding new options. Chica posts a picture and some other chica comments, check her out. Friends with a prepago. Has photos like a prepago. Might be a prepago.

Then there are the chica groups. Add the right 3 or 4 girls, have a cita with a couple of them, and the next day you've got 10 more wanting to talk to you about a cita.

It's also useful if you're looking for certain things. Want a girl who will bring you weed or tussi? You'll quickly figure out which ones have what you want. Want to know which one doesn't have the tacky tattoos? Or which one doesn't have kids? It will all scroll past every day. You'll learn which one is always whining and which one is always smiling..[/QUOTE]Almost all of that happens even if you don't friend them LOL. You can see their photos (they pretty much all keep everything public and not just friends). Yu can still scrool through their profiles and their walls and barely miss a thing--there is basically no difference for most of them if you are friends or not. Messenger will tell you if they are onlineagain you don't need to be friends with them.

Almost all the advantages you list are the same friends or not.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2467515]Colombia Jake used to be on this board. He was sort of the JjBee62 of that time. [/QUOTE]I think you got your comparisons off of these two individuals, and will be hearing from J2 Bee shortly.

You may get a lashing compared to the one administered by Tall Man the other day, so you better get an umbrella, because when he get's done with you, you will have been chopped down so low you will need an umbrella so the ants don't get you wet when they take a piss.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2467515]Colombia Jake used to be on this board. He was sort of the JjBee62 of that time. Someone who professed to know everything about Colombia. I think it will never be known if he was guilty of what he was charged with, but the fact he committed suicide while in jail tends to favor guilt.[/QUOTE]I knew Jake. I wouldn't say he professed to know everything about Colombia. Quite the country, he was wholly ignorant of language and culture and didn't care. He had fearless determination in finding new girls all over the city and countryside to date himself, or put to work for him. I can't say that I liked him much. But, I gained useful knowledge about living here from observing him. He was remarkably reckless, arrogant, and disrespectful. His guilt or innocence is beyond a shadow of a doubt with me. I won't say which. But, he was in Colombian prison for likely a very long time. Probably an almost unimaginable place for a pure Gringo, when at normal capacity. I read they are filled to about 300% intended capacity. So pure misery 24-7. His only deliverance would be to a Federal US prison. I know there was some evidence that he planned to off himself as escape plan if and when things unravelled for him. Don't be like Jake.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2467531]I knew Jake. I wouldn't say he professed to know everything about Colombia. Quite the country, he was wholly ignorant of language and culture and didn't care. ...[/QUOTE]My only knowledge of him was reading his posts on this board. To me, he came across as an arrogant know-it-all. My remembrance is that he often told others they were wrong and then told them how it should be done. That is the basis of my impression of him thinking he knew everything.

[QUOTE=MMHikeus;2467156]I am not encouraging breaking the law etc. This is purely a thought exercise.

As far as I know, US only does entry stamps and not exit stamps, for non US passport holders. Not sure if they do entry stamps for US passport holders. With global entry they don't stamp anything while entering the country for US passports.

Many countries including Colombia do entry and exit stamps for foreigners. Not sure how closely they match them up, but they are usually stamped close by.

Also, there is the situation with dual citizenship / passport holders. Say US and Colombian passports. Usually, the standard operating procedure for this scenario is to enter and exit each country with its own passport. So the stamps don't match up, unless both the passports are examined together.

As far as I know, US will admit it's citizens, as long as they prove citizenship. I don't think they really care how you left the country. Not sure what Colombian policy is on admitting it's citizens.

So there may be enough loopholes to pull it off, but getting caught could cause serious trouble.[/QUOTE]You cannot be denied entry to the USA, under any circumstances, with a valid USA passport. Everything is electronically scanned now in air "ports of entry"(USA) No stamping. I think you all know this.

Hello everyone,

First post here. I would like to thank all of you for sharing your valuable knowledge about Medellin. I am planning on going there for my first time next June and staying at the Mansion for a few weeks. I have been working on building up my Facebook chica list. Would any of you be willing to share some Facebook chica contacts that sell their videos and provide sessions in Medellin?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2467485]You kidding, right? Always have some dollars in you pocket to bribe the cops, this is rule number one when rolling in a developing country.[/QUOTE]You are kidding right? There were like 10 of them. They were doing some kind of operation. You will see the pictures I posted if you do a search. I have never found a need to bribe anyone even when I have been asked, because I don't commit offenses where I would need to.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2467536]You cannot be denied entry to the USA, under any circumstances, with a valid USA passport. Everything is electronically scanned now in air "ports of entry"(USA) No stamping. I think you all know this.[/QUOTE]No you can not be denied entry, but you can also be escorted directly to jail once you have been allowed entry.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2467546]You are kidding right? There were like 10 of them. They were doing some kind of operation. You will see the pictures I posted if you do a search. I have never found a need to bribe anyone even when I have been asked, because I don't commit offenses where I would need to.[/QUOTE]Well, what can I say, live a little bro. What's the point of go through life just to obey all the fucking rules laid down by antiquity. Imagine if Einstein just obeyed the Newtonian notation of Physics, or Picasso just followed the path of Monet, or Beethoven scummed to Mozartian style. We will not have relativity, cubism and the 9th symphony.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2467487]Agree with everything you said, except that no one is in "sex prision. " That common monger board proclamation is only of self-pity. Money talks. I've been getting laid all week, American girls. No one has any trouble here unless they are broke.[/QUOTE]In San Francisco, to have a fivesome with four smoking hot 18-year-olds for three full days, where I can do absolutely everything I want, in a Penthouse that has a huge Jacuzzi on a Balcony with retractable roof-top will host about 50 k-100 k, if you can afford to spend 50 k-100 k to get laid for 3 days, then good for you, you belong in different league. For me, spend a grand to fuck 4 different women in their late twenties each week is an insult to my dick, but I still do it, I fuck about four different girls a week, all in their mid to late 20's, and I'm about to fucking kill myself because this is pretty much hell for me. In Medellin, I can fuck 12 different girls all 18 every three days for less than 5 grand. Dear god, what did I do to deserve this punishment?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2467547]No you can not be denied entry, but you can also be escorted directly to jail once you have been allowed entry.[/QUOTE]Yes, men in dark suits and dark glasses, or pretty Federal Marshall uniforms may be waiting to greet you. And, listen attentively and inquisitively to all your travel adventure stories.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2467508]My experience going to Tijuana is that sometimes there are so many people returning to Mexico side, the agents just wave everyone thru, no stamp at all.[/QUOTE]Yep. Good ole days. Pre TSA, quick flight to San Diego, or drive down if in LOS Angeles. Train to the border. Walk across, short taxi ride. Eat good and cheap, party with impunity. Go home and snicker at the uppity gringas until the next trip. I was no ugly guy in those days either.

Wifey packed up all her shit and left, around 6p, yesterday. No explanation, which isn't surprising, as she's a proud Paisa and Leo, and 18yo. She had asked for rent money via WhatsApp on the 15th, when she was at her aunt's house. We never really followed up on it. Not sure if it had something to do with that. We don't have the best communication, especially when it's in a heated moment or when it's about something serious and she doesn't make an effort to confirm I understood clearly. Anyway, I immediately spent the next 2 hours multi-tasking with WhatsApp, Seeking, & Tinder.

I talked to Pinky, who said she is going to move back home with her mom, because she can't find a job, and doesn't want to be a hardcore prepago. I talked to a variety of noobies who I had marinating, repeats, civilians, etc. After a couple freebies said not tonight, I messaged a girl that Wifey had brought over. Going back a few weeks or a month in the forum - tight body, 20yo, white bikini. So, she is shocked to hear from me, because it's been awhile and I never messaged her. She put her number in my phone while Wifey was in the bathroom. At about 730-745p, she says she can be over at 9p and she already had dinner. Perfect! I finish a workout, shower, make dinner, and order her an Uber. Typical Paisa bullshit. The dickwad Uber driver ends up one block away from the address submitted. She is waiting in her apartment and can see the location. He messages that he is happy to wait for me to walk to him. Of course, he doesn't know it's a 20yo, 42kg girl but still. I send him her number and tell him to call. He calls me. He eventually cancels the ride. I get charged a fee (2.500) for canceling. Uber refunds it per my request. I have probably only done that 3-4 times, and have used Uber all over the world, where available, so it's a fairly pain-free, quick process.

So, I order another Uber, 5 mins away. She has literally no fucking clue about her surroundings. Imagine one of you dipshits having a friend order you an Uber, send you a screenshot of said Uber, including map. You live off 104th St. The Uber is at 101st St. You have no idea where he is or how long it should take. Just wild! So, fast forward to arrival, around 9:40p. My phone rings from a Colombian number. I can see the Uber has arrived on the app. It's her, she's yapping about God knows what. I tell her just tell the Portero, "Apto ____ and come up. I was in a towel, and finishing dinner. As previously stated, I never go down to welcome a girl. I don't want to be pinned as the Gringo with all the girls coming over. So, the Uber driver gets on the phone, and he fucking calls me TONTO! Hahaha fuck, amazing. I phone down to the portero, cool young guy, tell him what's going on. He handles it. She goes to the wrong floor, and runs into a female resident, who explains to her it must be floor X because there is no unit X on floor Y. So, chalk up one resident who knows the schtick.

We have a nice relaxing night. Beers in the jacuzzi. She gets so fucking wet and so into the sex, it's unbelievable. First round was in the jacuzzi with a condom. Second round was jacuzzi and outdoor couch, sin condon. Third round was in the jacuzzi, sin condon, but a dud. Fourth round was in bed. She is on some app I've never heard of, that sounds like a PG version of Chaturbate. She was showing me some hot chicks that just sing, dance, talk, idk. She said she does it about 50 hours a month. Anyway, she spent the night. She left around 830 a this morning. Total - 30k for roundtrip Uber. Will repeat. She's very cariosa, very sexual. She talks super fast and with a bit of a lazy barrio-girl twang where she cuts her words. Super tight body. She has a shitload of Instagram followers, maybe 70k or something, and looks gorgeous in many of her photos. No kids, and the only critique I have is hair extensions but I didn't even know she fucking had them until she said something. I truly wish I could show you unblurred photos of her face and body, but...

Great night to start another fake lockdown!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467675]As previously stated, I never go down to welcome a girl. I don't want to be pinned as the Gringo with all the girls coming over. So, the Uber driver gets on the phone, and he fucking calls me TONTO! Hahaha fuck, amazing. I phone down to the portero, cool young guy, tell him what's going on. He handles it. She goes to the wrong floor, and runs into a female resident, who explains to her it must be floor X because there is no unit X on floor Y. So, chalk up one resident who knows the schtick.[/QUOTE]Your very smart in never going downstairs to meet your girls, and I'm sure you yuk it up and grease the skids with the Portero's so they work with you, and at times for you, versus against you.

As you recall, there have been some other members who have had issues at times with the Portero's who report directly to the building administrator. In my building there are forty eight apartments, and three Portero's, besides a daily grounds / building lady who have worked there for several years. They know the comings and goings of all the residents, and literally know who's fucking who, and gossip a lot with the residents as a lot of times people are waiting in the lobby and shoot the breeze with the Portero's. One of the Portero's in my building gave me the "snake eye" once when one of my Chicas was showing off a bit of clevage.

Regardless, I grease the skids with them, and no problems, yet your naive if you think only one resident in the building knows what your up to as when there's a gringo in the building, word get's out, and if your not careful, it can become problematic, however you obviously have had things under control.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467675]Wifey packed up all her shit and left, around 6p, yesterday. No explanation, which isn't surprising, as she's a proud Paisa and Leo, and 18yo. She had asked for rent money via WhatsApp on the 15th, when she was at her aunt's house. We never really followed up on it. Not sure if it had something to do with that. We don't have the best communication, especially when it's in a heated moment or when it's about something serious and she doesn't make an effort to confirm I understood clearly. Anyway, I immediately spent the next 2 hours multi-tasking with WhatsApp, Seeking, & Tinder.

I talked to Pinky, who said she is going to move back home with her mom, because she can't find a job, and doesn't want to be a hardcore prepago. I talked to a variety of noobies who I had marinating, repeats, civilians, etc. After a couple freebies said not tonight, I messaged a girl that Wifey had brought over. Going back a few weeks or a month in the forum - tight body, 20yo, white bikini. So, she is shocked to hear from me, because it's been awhile and I never messaged her. She put her number in my phone while Wifey was in the bathroom. At about 730-745p, she says she can be over at 9p and she already had dinner. Perfect! I finish a workout, shower, make dinner, and order her an Uber. Typical Paisa bullshit. The dickwad Uber driver ends up one block away from the address submitted. She is waiting in her apartment and can see the location. He messages that he is happy to wait for me to walk to him. Of course, he doesn't know it's a 20yo, 42kg girl but still. I send him her number and tell him to call. He calls me. He eventually cancels the ride. I get charged a fee (2.500) for canceling. Uber refunds it per my request. I have probably only done that 3-4 times, and have used Uber all over the world, where available, so it's a fairly pain-free, quick process.[/QUOTE]She was probably showing you Bigo. It's currently the hottest thing in Colombia. You can find everything from Veracruz hookers to top models on there. I was able to pull about 30 Whatsapp contacts from there.

There's another livestream app called Tango that's popular with the Venezuelans.

Sure if a girls has perfect natural ones like my 18 yo literally a Cheerleader US Sugar Baby has (see photo, the blond), then yes I prefer them, that being said I also love a large aftermarket set like Instagram girls like Chloe Khan or Yvonne Bar has, have trouble believing someone would kick them out of bed.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467675]End of An Era[/QUOTE]I think you may have spoken too quick. Didn't it end at least once before？ So was Blakman with his 8.

The app maybe tik tok. The other day a girl (not in Colombia) quoted me almost US $1000. She asked what did I think, I said I was shocked. She then told me she is famous, and has a huge following on tik tok.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2467728]Sure if a girls has perfect natural ones like my 18 yo literally a Cheerleader US Sugar Baby has (see photo, the blond), then yes I prefer them, that being said I also love a large aftermarket set like Instagram girls like Chloe Khan or Yvonne Bar has, have trouble believing someone would kick them out of bed.[/QUOTE]Have you met those two in person? I don't think they will look as good in person.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2467734]Have you met those two in person? I don't think they will look as good in person.[/QUOTE]No I have not, but have seen enough of their video footage to know they are pretty hot in my book.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2467710]Your very smart in never going downstairs to meet your girls, and I'm sure you yuk it up and grease the skids with the Portero's so they work with you, and at times for you, versus against you.

As you recall, there have been some other members who have had issues at times with the Portero's who report directly to the building administrator. In my building there are forty eight apartments, and three Portero's, besides a daily grounds / building lady who have worked there for several years. They know the comings and goings of all the residents, and literally know who's fucking who, and gossip a lot with the residents as a lot of times people are waiting in the lobby and shoot the breeze with the Portero's. One of the Portero's in my building gave me the "snake eye" once when one of my Chicas was showing off a bit of clevage.

Regardless, I grease the skids with them, and no problems, yet your naive if you think only one resident in the building knows what your up to as when there's a gringo in the building, word get's out, and if your not careful, it can become problematic, however you obviously have had things under control.[/QUOTE]I'm not that dumb, but there's about 40 units here, and I've only had a conversation with one resident. They can know what's going on, or think they know, but as long as they can't put a face to a puta to an apartment, or something, then I feel a bit more comfortable. My concern was that the resident knew two things: 1) a lost puta in the building 2) apartment number. I'm as off the radar as you can be for some one that constantly has girls going in and out, in my opinion. The tonto part was about not coming downstairs, I think. As much as some like to pre-approve their girls outside their building, I prefer to not include myself in an awkward hug outside the taxi, then inevitable payment of said taxi, insincere Hello, and thank you to the portero, etc. If I think a chick is an 8, and a 5 shows up, I typically suck it up and try to determine why I thought she was an 8, and improve my search skills.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2467731]I think you may have spoken too quick. Didn't it end at least once before？ So was Blakman with his 8.

The app maybe tik tok. The other day a girl (not in Colombia) quoted me almost US $1000. She asked what did I think, I said I was shocked. She then told me she is famous, and has a huge following on tik tok.[/QUOTE]Ya, maybe so, but who knows. I'm good, either way. She's probably better off, if she goes for citas instead of pissing me off for not picking up her shit. I think it's a good time to mix things up.

The app is not Tik Tok, it's something I'd never heard of. Bigo Live, I believe. She said the guys tipping are rich introverts that don't know how to pick up girls. Sounds about right.

I had the urge to hit Centro, this afternoon, then remembered that's a no-go. I think I'm going to try to get one of the other two freebies over, but it's proving to be somewhat difficult. One of them is at a friend's house, and planning to stay the night. The other is just being non-committal. I put in an hour or so on SA, yesterday, and today I have a ton of activity. SA has really been a game-changer, for me, this trip.

When I was last in Colombia I had various Airbnbs and the door man definitely made me feel either cool or uncomfortable about bring chicas up.

The best Airbnb was just two blocks of of Park Lleras which was an apartment with no door man, I would just pull hot girls from the street, it was the best thing ever.

So do yall really think theyll let Americans in sometime in September? Because I really want to go, haha, its been a while.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467750]I'm not that dumb, but there's about 40 units here, and I've only had a conversation with one resident. They can know what's going on, or think they know, but as long as they can't put a face to a puta to an apartment, or something, then I feel a bit more comfortable. My concern was that the resident knew two things: 1) a lost puta in the building 2) apartment number. I'm as off the radar as you can be for some one that constantly has girls going in and out, in my opinion. .[/QUOTE]Nobody ever said your dumb, but like I said, the Portero's know what goes on in their buildings, and they talk with the residents, and some residents like to gossip.

You said that there was one resident who knew there was a lost Puta in the building, how do you know that this resident knew it was a Puta, maybe she didn't think that at all if she has never physically seen you before. It's a bit different if a resident knew there was an old Gringo in the building and saw and knew a hot thing was headed up there, so maybe it's nothing to be concerned about. Given the length of time you've been in your apartment, it's amazing you haven't interacted with more of the residents which helps to keep you out of sight and out of mind, basically physically under the radar.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2467710]your naive if you think only one resident in the building knows what your up to[/QUOTE]Foreigners are funny. Some hood rat stranger is in the building and nobody knows who she is there to see? Maybe if she was dressed in a business suit with a briefcase this would be true. I am going to file this one with don't wear shorts or a ballcap and everyone will think you are from there and 60 year old guy at restaurant with 18 year old chick and nobody suspects she is a hooker because it is totally normal. That is like if you stay completely still the bear can't see you. The things we trick ourselves into believing.

If some stranger leaves this building in the morning everyone knows she was here with me. When we had a security guy and some random chick popped up over here looking confused he knew who to call and say lady here for you. I never had to give a chick my room number.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2467728]Sure if a girls has perfect natural ones like my 18 yo literally a Cheerleader US Sugar Baby has (see photo, the blond),[/QUOTE]I don't care how 18 year old, cheerleadery and blond a chick is; if that broad likes to live in filth then I am completely turned off. If she won't keep her house clean then surely she is not keeping her pussy clean.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2467734]Have you met those two in person? I don't think they will look as good in person.[/QUOTE]In person? They scare the shit out of me on a computer screen. Why do those chicks look creepy as fuck like that? I would run from them thinking some aliens were trying to get me. They have overdone it on the makeup and the plastic surgery. Small head and small nose with big ass lips and a ton of makeup. Small body with hot air balloon titties. Looks weird like when guys put a lift kit and huge tires on their cars to make them as tall as a truck. Really out of place.

King of all time your girl selection is awesome beautiful pretty cute.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467675]Wifey packed up all her shit and left, around 6p, yesterday. No explanation, which isn't surprising, as she's a proud Paisa and Leo, and 18yo. She had asked for rent money via WhatsApp on the 15th, when she was at her aunt's house. We never really followed up on it. Not sure if it had something to do with that. We don't have the best communication, especially when it's in a heated moment or when it's about something serious and she doesn't make an effort to confirm I understood clearly. Anyway, I immediately spent the next 2 hours multi-tasking with WhatsApp, Seeking, & Tinder.

I talked to Pinky, who said she is going to move back home with her mom, because she can't find a job, and doesn't want to be a hardcore prepago. I talked to a variety of noobies who I had marinating, repeats, civilians, etc. After a couple freebies said not tonight, I messaged a girl that Wifey had brought over. Going back a few weeks or a month in the forum - tight body, 20yo, white bikini. So, she is shocked to hear from me, because it's been awhile and I never messaged her. She put her number in my phone while Wifey was in the bathroom. At about 730-745p, she says she can be over at 9p and she already had dinner. Perfect! I finish a workout, shower, make dinner, and order her an Uber. Typical Paisa bullshit. The dickwad Uber driver ends up one block away from the address submitted. She is waiting in her apartment and can see the location. He messages that he is happy to wait for me to walk to him. Of course, he doesn't know it's a 20yo, 42kg girl but still. I send him her number and tell him to call. He calls me. He eventually cancels the ride. I get charged a fee (2.500) for canceling. Uber refunds it per my request. I have probably only done that 3-4 times, and have used Uber all over the world, where available, so it's a fairly pain-free, quick process.

So, I order another Uber, 5 mins away. She has literally no fucking clue about her surroundings. Imagine one of you dipshits having a friend order you an Uber, send you a screenshot of said Uber, including map. You live off 104th St. The Uber is at 101st St. You have no idea where he is or how long it should take. Just wild! So, fast forward to arrival, around 9:40p. My phone rings from a Colombian number. I can see the Uber has arrived on the app. It's her, she's yapping about God knows what. I tell her just tell the Portero, "Apto ____ and come up. I was in a towel, and finishing dinner. As previously stated, I never go down to welcome a girl. I don't want to be pinned as the Gringo with all the girls coming over. So, the Uber driver gets on the phone, and he fucking calls me TONTO! Hahaha fuck, amazing. I phone down to the portero, cool young guy, tell him what's going on. He handles it. She goes to the wrong floor, and runs into a female resident, who explains to her it must be floor X because there is no unit X on floor Y. So, chalk up one resident who knows the schtick.

We have a nice relaxing night. Beers in the jacuzzi. She gets so fucking wet and so into the sex, it's unbelievable. First round was in the jacuzzi with a condom. Second round was jacuzzi and outdoor couch, sin condon. Third round was in the jacuzzi, sin condon, but a dud. Fourth round was in bed. She is on some app I've never heard of, that sounds like a PG version of Chaturbate. She was showing me some hot chicks that just sing, dance, talk, idk. She said she does it about 50 hours a month. Anyway, she spent the night. She left around 830 a this morning. Total - 30k for roundtrip Uber. Will repeat. She's very cariosa, very sexual. She talks super fast and with a bit of a lazy barrio-girl twang where she cuts her words. Super tight body. She has a shitload of Instagram followers, maybe 70k or something, and looks gorgeous in many of her photos. No kids, and the only critique I have is hair extensions but I didn't even know she fucking had them until she said something. I truly wish I could show you unblurred photos of her face and body, but...

Great night to start another fake lockdown![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467724]She was probably showing you Bigo. It's currently the hottest thing in Colombia. You can find everything from Veracruz hookers to top models on there. I was able to pull about 30 Whatsapp contacts from there.

There's another livestream app called Tango that's popular with the Venezuelans.[/QUOTE]How do you use Bigo? Is there a way to limit yourself to just streams from Medellin?

I tried it for the first time last night and was immediately messaged by several women who were a really aggressive in looking for romance. I exchanged whatsapp numbers with one and talked for a bit. I grew more suspicious when she tried to steer the conversation towards if I could "take care" of her. I reverse image searched the photo she sent me and sure enough, a popular instagram model. Every platform has its hustlers running romance scams!

[QUOTE=Talon;2467871]How do you use Bigo? Is there a way to limit yourself to just streams from Medellin?
[/QUOTE]Good question, I would also like to know if it is possible to block all the guys playing Fortnite.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2467487]Agree with everything you said, except that no one is in "sex prision. " That common monger board proclamation is only of self-pity. Money talks. I've been getting laid all week, American girls. No one has any trouble here unless they are broke.[/QUOTE]The term is by way of comparison. If the US is not a sex prison then why is it that the vast majority of men who travel to third world countries for sex are Americans?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467750]I'm not that dumb, but there's about 40 units here, and I've only had a conversation with one resident. They can know what's going on, or think they know, but as long as they can't put a face to a puta to an apartment, or something, then I feel a bit more comfortable. My concern was that the resident knew two things: 1) a lost puta in the building 2) apartment number. I'm as off the radar as you can be for some one that constantly has girls going in and out, in my opinion..[/QUOTE]How many penthouses in the building? Is it possible that it is used frequently used by mongers?

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2467736]No I have not, but have seen enough of their video footage to know they are pretty hot in my book.[/QUOTE]I have to look up to find who Chloe Khan is, then have to find the year when the picture is taken. She is messed up. I think the picture that you have shown is from an angle that makes her look much better. I have been checking out apartments to rent. There is a way to make apartment look better and larger. I was going to rent one with large refrigerator until someone reminded me the image is taken in a way to make it look much larger. She reminds me of a blue eye blonde with huge ass I saw many times in Bogota. I actually did not feel her ass was that big until one day I saw her came to work with regular clothing and tennis shoes, her ass looked huge without high heel.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467750]They can know what's going on, or think they know, but as long as they can't put a face to a puta to an apartment, or something, then I feel a bit more comfortable. My concern was that the resident knew two things: 1) a lost puta in the building 2) apartment number. I'm as off the radar as you can be for some one that constantly has girls going in and out, in my opinion. The tonto part was about not coming downstairs, I think. As much as some like to pre-approve their girls outside their building,[/QUOTE]Within 2 weeks half the building will know but few will care. I prefer meeting outside. If she is ugly or fat I can send her back in the taxi that brought her. If she is drunk or high I do not want her in the building let alone my room. Also, on the way out I walk her out so the doorman knows everything is OK. I was not drugged asleep or she snuck out with valuables when I am showering or toilet. He does not have to call me for approval for her to leave. But the biggest reason for me is that the doorman will try to be chatty with the hot girls coming and going. Maybe give inside information about what is inside my apartment. Maybe the doorman gets jealous or does not like call girls and tells them how many girls you have and screws it up between me and my best girl. The girls are not bright and might tell the doorman that the two of you do drugs. He offers to get her some if she needs. Then the doorman does a setup with police. I want my inside information more protected than my outside information. No perfect answer just different routes.

[QUOTE=Joem1000;2467538]Hello everyone,

First post here. I would like to thank all of you for sharing your valuable knowledge about Medellin. I am planning on going there for my first time next June and staying at the Mansion for a few weeks. I have been working on building up my Facebook chica list. Would any of you be willing to share some Facebook chica contacts that sell their videos and provide sessions in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Stay at the Mansion for a few days, then somewhere else. No need to be there for 'weeks'.

Don't bother with any Facebook research until a few days before you go on your trip. You are just wasting time now. Half those profiles won't exist, half will have different names. None of it matters until you are there in MDE anyway. Nobody will remember you or care a thing about you from 2020.

Between mansion girls, tinder, stops at strip clubs and casas, SA, Badoo and just a couple of Facebook chicas you can have a stable at the ready in minutes. Throw in massage places and on the ground in town networking and everyone who has been to MDE can tell you to just read through the forum here and save the silly questions for the week before your trip is actually happening. LOL.

I get being horny and lonely at home -fantasizing about hotties in MDE but, really, trying to build a facebook list a year ahead of time is just silly talk.

Besides, read through the forum there is so much info here already its ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Talon;2467871]How do you use Bigo? Is there a way to limit yourself to just streams from Medellin?

I tried it for the first time last night and was immediately messaged by several women who were a really aggressive in looking for romance. I exchanged whatsapp numbers with one and talked for a bit. I grew more suspicious when she tried to steer the conversation towards if I could "take care" of her. I reverse image searched the photo she sent me and sure enough, a popular instagram model. Every platform has its hustlers running romance scams![/QUOTE]You'll get that. If someone messages you, look at their profile. They'll almost always be level 1, there will be a hot pic and usually the name is a mix of a man's and a woman's name, like Sarah Nick. Those are all scammers. I chatted with one once. Can't remember where in the US they claimed to be from, but it became obvious they had no idea. Next time get them all excited and offer to send $500, but first you need to do a video call with them. Under no circumstances send them money.

You can limit to viewing only people from Colombia. Click on the planet at the bottom of the screen. Click on "more" under Countries and regions, then find and select Colombia. You'll have to check each one out to see where they are from.

Look at the number of "beans" they have. If it's over 2,000 just scroll on. Ideally you'll find one with under 10 beans. Chat nice with them. Let them know you're familiar with Medellin. Maybe mention some restaurants or night clubs. Give some gifts, enough to get their attention. Send them a private message. You can do that by clicking on their name, then click on chat. Say a few nice things, throw out your WhatsApp in case they want to talk. You may have to chat more before they'll move to WhatsApp.

Once you have their WhatsApp, it's up to you to figure out if they're a pro or non-pro.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2467899]How many penthouses in the building? Is it possible that it is used frequently used by mongers?[/QUOTE]4 penthouses, and I really think there are only 2 rentals in the building. Mine and the penthouse across from me.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2467905]Within 2 weeks half the building will know but few will care. I prefer meeting outside. If she is ugly or fat I can send her back in the taxi that brought her. If she is drunk or high I do not want her in the building let alone my room. Also, on the way out I walk her out so the doorman knows everything is OK. I was not drugged asleep or she snuck out with valuables when I am showering or toilet. He does not have to call me for approval for her to leave. But the biggest reason for me is that the doorman will try to be chatty with the hot girls coming and going. Maybe give inside information about what is inside my apartment. Maybe the doorman gets jealous or does not like call girls and tells them how many girls you have and screws it up between me and my best girl. The girls are not bright and might tell the doorman that the two of you do drugs. He offers to get her some if she needs. Then the doorman does a setup with police. I want my inside information more protected than my outside information. No perfect answer just different routes.[/QUOTE]My one-month rental in Nov / Dec was at a nice place where the porteros were super cool. I actually walked over there a couple weeks ago to say Hi. They would always call when the girls left, to check on me. In those days, I was going out 6 nights a week. Always in and out. So, it was a very different feel. I was more visible, but at the same time, it was a fairly slow and private feel at the building. Now, I am leaving maybe once a week for groceries. Girls are in and out all the time, but I would imagine more than 50% of the residents have never seen me. Of those that have, maybe half have seen me only with a mask on. Only two residents (one renter), the porteros, and the handyman know which unit I am in. Of course, "the gringo in ____ could be a common conversation, but I doubt more than a couple residents could pick me out of a lineup of gringos. The porteros here call when a girl arrives, I say ok, she comes up. Nothing when she leaves. As of now, that's been nice to have some privacy. Of course, those feelings could change if a chick robbed me, or worse. I do have some sort of comfort because she checks-in on camera, the portero gets a good look, etc.



I had a freebie, last night. We hadn't talked in a long time, because she's always nervous about the quarantine. I got her an Uber for less than $2, she lives close, and then told her to run fast if she sees the cops. I was surprised she took the bait. She must just be sick of the lockdown. She works at one of the local sports bars. Dinner, drinks, convo, jacuzzi, music, sex con condon, BBBJ, drinks, jacuzzi, music, bed, sex con condon, then she made breakfast. She's still here, and to be honest, I kind of wish she would leave, without having to make it awkward. Although, I can understand it's probably liberating to be out of her apartment, and just relax on a Saturday. I have another freebie, this one a repeat (the one with the twin sister that I couldn't manage to hook), that wants to come over tonight. I think I'll tell her yes, and over the next few hours try to get this one out. I'll probably repeat, at some point, because she's passionate, mature, and good conversation / energy. She's put on a few pounds during quarantine, handful-sized boobs, morena/mulatta, slim-thick type. She wouldn't be the one you're drooling over at the sports bar, but she'd be the one you chat with and start to think she's a good combination of looks and personality. Breakfast was good!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2467893]The term is by way of comparison. If the US is not a sex prison then why is it that the vast majority of men who travel to third world countries for sex are Americans?[/QUOTE]The majority only in the Western Hemisphere. Which makes sense given that US residents can much easier afford to travel south for pussy than vice versa.

I used to scoff at the sex prison references. But in this pandemic, every country is a sex prison for a single guy. My married friends used to envy me for how much I got laid (and they don't even know about the prepagos in South America). Nowadays, I envy them for their sex lives (at least the ones with attractive wives).

[QUOTE=Combo;2467956]The majority only in the Western Hemisphere. Which makes sense given that US residents can much easier afford to travel south for pussy than vice versa.

I used to scoff at the sex prison references. But in this pandemic, every country is a sex prison for a single guy. My married friends used to envy me for how much I got laid (and they don't even know about the prepagos in South America). Nowadays, I envy them for their sex lives (at least the ones with attractive wives).[/QUOTE]I'm in Florida, luckily not south Florida, more virus, more GPS syndrome.

I've been pretty lucky actually where I'm at.

Got a few girls from Secret Benefits site that have become regulars, a couple from the WG boards that have become kissing friends for low donation, a sweet Russian girl from the local strip club hehe.

I still miss SA, however, the pussy is still a Go here! Lol.

Envy the married guys, hmmm, me, no way Lol.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2467906]Stay at the Mansion for a few days, then somewhere else. No need to be there for 'weeks'.

Don't bother with any Facebook research until a few days before you go on your trip. You are just wasting time now. Half those profiles won't exist, half will have different names. None of it matters until you are there in MDE anyway. Nobody will remember you or care a thing about you from 2020..[/QUOTE]People still use Badoo?

Staying at the Mansion the whole time isn't what I would do, but it might be the right thing for him. Everyone has to figure out their comfort level. If he decides after a few days that he wants to stay the whole time at the Mansion, he might be out of luck. Worst case he spends longer there than needed and is more prepared to go solo on his next trip.

While there's no benefit to trying to set up dates a year in advance, there's no harm to building a list now. Just remember that their problems aren't your problems.

But he's looking for something more, girls selling videos, who will also see him when he arrives. I understand, a lot of guys don't have any interest in videos. Some do. Here's the ones I would add if interested in videos:

Yadna Usaga. She has a good camera, understands the importance of lighting and gives a reasonable value. She also has a bunch of friends she will refer to you. The friends vary. In my opinion, Yadna looks pretty good.

Diana Garcia, also known as Cristina Maldonado. Her camera and lighting aren't as good, but she does try to give good value. She also has a lot of friends she'll send your way. She tries to make sure her friends give good value.

Laura Loaiza. She's another one with a few friends. She gives decent value.

Unless you go for lots of random tattoos, you might want to avoid Yesika Reguillo. She's got a nice face, but the tattoos are a distraction. I didn't find her quality or quantity to be up to my standards.

Melissa Munoz. Haven't bought anything off of her, but she's alright. Hung out and talked with her a few times in Medellin. If you're looking for tits, you'll want to avoid her. She's a member of the itty bitty titty club.

There are plenty more. That's enough to get anyone started.

I can't take the risks you're taking. I've got an 85 year old Mother whom I visit regularly (observing distancing). If I unknowingly pick up the virus from a "kissing friend" and visit my Mom. That probably wouldn't be good.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2467959]I'm in Florida, luckily not south Florida, more virus, more GPS syndrome.

I've been pretty lucky actually where I'm at.

Got a few girls from Secret Benefits site that have become regulars, a couple from the WG boards that have become kissing friends for low donation, a sweet Russian girl from the local strip club hehe.

I still miss SA, however, the pussy is still a Go here! Lol.

Envy the married guys, hmmm, me, no way Lol.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2467784]I don't care how 18 year old, cheerleadery and blond a chick is; if that broad likes to live in filth then I am completely turned off. If she won't keep her house clean then surely she is not keeping her pussy clean..[/QUOTE]That wasn't her place, and I've know a few strippers who kept messy houses but were very clean personally. The two aren't always related.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467750]I'm not that dumb, but there's about 40 units here, and I've only had a conversation with one resident. They can know what's going on, or think they know, but as long as they can't put a face to a puta to an apartment, or something, then I feel a bit more comfortable. My concern was that the resident knew two things: 1) a lost puta in the building 2) apartment number. I'm as off the radar as you can be for some one that constantly has girls going in and out, in my opinion. The tonto part was about not coming downstairs, I think. As much as some like to pre-approve their girls outside their building, I prefer to not include myself in an awkward hug outside the taxi, then inevitable payment of said taxi, insincere Hello, and thank you to the portero, etc. If I think a chick is an 8, and a 5 shows up, I typically suck it up and try to determine why I thought she was an 8, and improve my search skills.[/QUOTE]
yeah, these are often uncomfortable, albeit very minor irritations within the ritual. I think its cultural. Gringos more uncomfortable than is probably called for locally. Also, its the way they dress. As been discussed here before.


[QUOTE]The app is not Tik Tok, it's something I'd never heard of. Bigo Live, I believe. She said the guys tipping are rich introverts that don't know how to pick up girls. Sounds about right.

I had the urge to hit Centro, this afternoon, then remembered that's a no-go. I think I'm going to try to get one of the other two freebies over, but it's proving to be somewhat difficult. One of them is at a friend's house, and planning to stay the night. The other is just being non-committal. I put in an hour or so on SA, yesterday, and today I have a ton of activity. SA has really been a game-changer, for me, this trip.[/QUOTE]I know a wonderful girl from Cartgena. She and her sister are on an app called "WHO". It doesn't work well on my particular phones.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2467959]I'm in Florida, luckily not south Florida, more virus, more GPS syndrome.

I've been pretty lucky actually where I'm at.

Got a few girls from Secret Benefits site that have become regulars, a couple from the WG boards that have become kissing friends for low donation, a sweet Russian girl from the local strip club hehe.

I still miss SA, however, the pussy is still a Go here! Lol.

Envy the married guys, hmmm, me, no way Lol.[/QUOTE]Whats the going rate for pleasant company and sex from these sites in the US? I always suspected it was just matter of time before sex would be a lot easier to get in the US than it was for a very long time. Now, thanks to apps (and a rapid moral decay) it may be here. Web pages with ads like Craigslist, backpage, and independentgirls get shut down. But these apps and networking sites may have more staying power.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2467989]
I know a wonderful girl from Cartgena. She and her sister are on an app called "WHO". It doesn't work well on my particular phones.[/QUOTE]Interesting. On Tiktok and Bigo it's free to watch people's content for hours.

I am just looking at WHO and it seems to have a different business model, that you pay coins to speak directly to the chica. Not sure how much they make from it, probably less than half what the coins cost the guy.

Hi gentlemen,

I've been in Medellin since March 15th. How long can I avoid going back to the US?

It's understood that the offices which handled extending the "tourist visa" are not doing anything for a while.

But my 6 month anniversary is in a month. If the airports re-open by September 1st, I would have no legitimate reason to prolong my stay.

It might be safe to just get back to the States and wait for next year so that my 180 days renews.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Loki.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2467901]I have to look up to find who Chloe Khan is, then have to find the year when the picture is taken. She is messed up. I think the picture that you have shown is from an angle that makes her look much better.[/QUOTE]The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.

IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.

Jessica Rabbit.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2468005]The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.

IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.[/QUOTE]

I don't have any thoughts but the fact as announced by the government (Migracion Colombia) is there is a 30 day deadline beginning the date international departures resume. In other words, if September 1 is the date of the first scheduled commercial flights then you will have to have your immigration status legalized (visa extension, visa application approved, etc.) or leave Colombian territory by October 1. There is a school of thought that discounts the possibility of international departures and arrivals would resume before 2021 but I don't have any thoughts because I stick to facts.

[QUOTE=Loki;2468000]Hi gentlemen,

I've been in Medellin since March 15th. How long can I avoid going back to the US?

It's understood that the offices which handled extending the "tourist visa" are not doing anything for a while.

But my 6 month anniversary is in a month. If the airports re-open by September 1st, I would have no legitimate reason to prolong my stay.

It might be safe to just get back to the States and wait for next year so that my 180 days renews.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Loki.[/QUOTE]

It is free to watch people's content on tiktok and bigo to the extent your personal data privacy has no value. Tiktok especially has recently come to be known as one of China's most aggressive MaaS ("malware as a service) exploits. Look it up if you are interested. It makes google look like a responsible privacy advocate by comparison.

[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2467999]Interesting. On Tiktok and Bigo it's free to watch people's content for hours.

I am just looking at WHO and it seems to have a different business model, that you pay coins to speak directly to the chica. Not sure how much they make from it, probably less than half what the coins cost the guy.[/QUOTE]

By now most here know I am not a fan of El Poblado. A major advantage it offers however is there is noticeably (at least to me) more tolerance toward foreigners from Colombians. There is much less potential for blowback from a slapshot lifestyle in the Poblado towers than there is in even the most upscale barrio towers.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2467941]4 penthouses, and I really think there are only 2 rentals in the building. Mine and the penthouse across from me.

My one-month rental in Nov / Dec was at a nice place where the porteros were super cool. I actually walked over there a couple weeks ago to say Hi. They would always call when the girls left, to check on me. In those days, I was going out 6 nights a week. Always in and out. So, it was a very different feel. I was more visible, but at the same time, it was a fairly slow and private feel at the building. Now, I am leaving maybe once a week for groceries. Girls are in and out all the time, but I would imagine more than 50% of the residents have never seen me. Of those that have, maybe half have seen me only with a mask on. Only two residents (one renter), the porteros, and the handyman know which unit I am in. Of course, "the gringo in ____ could be a common conversation, but I doubt more than a couple residents could pick me out of a lineup of gringos. The porteros here call when a girl arrives, I say ok, she comes up. Nothing when she leaves. As of now, that's been nice to have some privacy. Of course, those feelings could change if a chick robbed me, or worse. I do have some sort of comfort because she checks-in on camera, the portero gets a good look, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2468005]The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.

IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I think we don't disagree on the beauty part. The difference is that you think she looks like her picture in person while I don't. When I googled her name, the first picture came up was from X something which was many years ago. It's weird to see the transition from that to the pictures in your post despite that I know they are taken many years apart.

I met Leidy when she was 19, so now she is likely 24 (max 25). A few pages ago her Instagram was mentioned.

Being in the game for a long time has clearly changed / damaged her. Back when I first met her she was stunning, already had a nose job and implants, but she was a sight to be seen.

I said I would pay for her taxi, because I thought she lived in Bello.

She pulls up to hotel with her 19 year old Colombian guy friend and I knew he was going to try to scam me for 20 k.

I walked up to his car and called his b S, and said I knew he wasn't a taxi driver.

I paid him because whatever, anyways, once she was chilling in my hotel she admitted that she had her own apartment next to my hotel in el Poblado.

I deleted her number because even though she was a stunner, there's tons more just like her to be found.

As users like TTM, PN and others have explained.

[QUOTE=Loki;2468000]I've been in Medellin since March 15th. How long can I avoid going back to the US? It's understood that the offices which handled extending the "tourist visa" are not doing anything for a while. But my 6 month anniversary is in a month. If the airports re-open by September 1st, I would have no legitimate reason to prolong my stay. It might be safe to just get back to the States and wait for next year so that my 180 days renews. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]No thoughts needed. You only need to go by what the Colombian government tells you they will allow. Keep your eyes open for information from them. These are not normal times. They will probably give you some kind of amnesty period. Just because the airport is open, does not mean there will be flights to where are from. They understand this.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2468032]I think we don't disagree on the beauty part. The difference is that you think she looks like her picture in person while I don't. When I googled her name, the first picture came up was from X something which was many years ago. It's weird to see the transition from that to the pictures in your post despite that I know they are taken many years apart.[/QUOTE]You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468060]You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr E. That is the one. Particularly, it is her waist that looks unreal to me in Wolf's pictures.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2467121]Why would it make a difference if you are friends with them? They want your money. That's all. Just message them and they will message you back. After a couple of messages switch to whatsapp or not--but there is ZERO need to be friends wit them. I don't know why people 'friend' these girls when everything can be handled via private messages and all of their pictures are usually public anyway.[/QUOTE]Well, let me put my two cents here, I like my FB friend list, I can choose the girls, it's like a catalog, if you don't friend them you might miss a good one.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2467128]Much love and respect to all as we all have a different taste for what floats our boat, mine is the all natural with no plastic nor other surgery's, none to just a few tasteful tattoos, no smoking, great youthful smile with a zeal for life.

Such is the case as my girl from bello shown here. This is what I see when we wake up in the morning. Met her through a friend 3 plus years ago when she was not quite 18 so yes did wait but wow what a birthday celebration it was.

I am still in contact with her to this day and see her much less than before for no other reason is that she is the type of girl you can get feelings for.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Can I get her number??

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2467671]Yep. Good ole days. Pre TSA, quick flight to San Diego, or drive down if in LOS Angeles. Train to the border. Walk across, short taxi ride. Eat good and cheap, party with impunity. Go home and snicker at the uppity gringas until the next trip. I was no ugly guy in those days either.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I miss the 90's before 911, deam terrorists!

Doesn't seem like Spirit will be leaving or arriving in Medellin in Sept, I just looked and the entire month of Sept is already booked, but lets see, they haven't cancelled my flight in Sept as of yet, then again its only July 18, 2020. Let's see how this turns out. Pollo Negro is Out!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2467901]I have to look up to find who Chloe Khan is, then have to find the year when the picture is taken. She is messed up. I think the picture that you have shown is from an angle that makes her look much better. I have been checking out apartments to rent. There is a way to make apartment look better and larger. I was going to rent one with large refrigerator until someone reminded me the image is taken in a way to make it look much larger. She reminds me of a blue eye blonde with huge ass I saw many times in Bogota. I actually did not feel her ass was that big until one day I saw her came to work with regular clothing and tennis shoes, her ass looked huge without high heel.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wolf662;2468005]The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.

IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.[/QUOTE]This is exactly the plastic and surgical woman that I would not fuck even if you paid me, seriously what a disgrace to do this to a woman's body, lips, face, no thank you.

Offer me a choice between this woman and a blow up doll with a hard plastic edged slit cut into the middle of the plastic legs and I would take it instead.

Much love and respect but just getting real here.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Combo;2467956]The majority only in the Western Hemisphere. Which makes sense given that US residents can much easier afford to travel south for pussy than vice versa.

I used to scoff at the sex prison references. But in this pandemic, every country is a sex prison for a single guy. My married friends used to envy me for how much I got laid (and they don't even know about the prepagos in South America). Nowadays, I envy them for their sex lives (at least the ones with attractive wives).[/QUOTE]Some 15 years ago I met an ex-girlfriend of mine who was married for 10 years at the time. I inquired of her sex life and she told me it consists of her stooping under the computer desk sucking her husbands dick while he watches porn and empties the contents of his testicles into her mouth.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468058]No thoughts needed. You only need to go by what the Colombian government tells you they will allow. Keep your eyes open for information from them. These are not normal times. They will probably give you some kind of amnesty period. Just because the airport is open, does not mean there will be flights to where are from. They understand this.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr E.

I bought a SPIRIT ticket back in late May. I have just been re-scheduling it for later dates as flights become available.

I am in NO rush whatsoever to leave the country. I just worry about the repercussions of of overstaying.

Eventually, I know I have to go back and face the reality of reality back home, but for now, I'm grateful for my time here.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2468005]The angle of that picture was straight on, which really is the absence of angle.

IMO she looks good though from any angle. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Honestly, she looks like a blow up doll, so perfect!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2468070]Thanks Mr E. That is the one. Particularly, it is her waist that looks unreal to me in Wolf's pictures.[/QUOTE]It's actually similar to this "Chatty Cathy" blow up doll from the Barbie Collection available on line.

[QUOTE=Loki;2468000]Hi gentlemen,

I've been in Medellin since March 15th. How long can I avoid going back to the US?

It's understood that the offices which handled extending the "tourist visa" are not doing anything for a while.

But my 6 month anniversary is in a month. If the airports re-open by September 1st, I would have no legitimate reason to prolong my stay.

It might be safe to just get back to the States and wait for next year so that my 180 days renews.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Loki.[/QUOTE]OK you arrived on March 15. Normally (we are NOT in normal) you get a 90 day term for your visit (the stamp in your passport) at the end of 90 days you should be leaving the country. You do have the option to extend for another 90 days by going to Migration Colombia offices and requesting an extension and paying whatever they charge (it's not a lot) and they give you a second 90 day stamp. You are NOT allowed to stay in country for.

More than 180 days during a calendar year. The fines are substantial and they will hold you up at the airport until you pay them.

OK that was the normal procedure.

Migration Colombia offices have been closed during the quarantine. There was a general announcement. Your 90 day tourist visa (the arrival stamp in your passport) was suspended when the quarantine started and.

Until the quarantine officially ends the clock is suspended. I. e. You March 15th entry means you only used 10 days (I don't remember the exact start date of the quarantine but it was around March 25th) it has been extended several times. So until it ends the clock is shut down. You obviously can stay through the rest of this year. And then in 2021 you get a new 180 days.

As to the international airport opening on September 1st. Well that was the announcement from the Minister of Transportation but clearly the steep increase in case count will almost certainly alter that schedule.

You'll see. If you are registered with the US State Department you will get notices for humanitarian flights from Medellin if you really want to get back to the US.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468060]You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version.[/QUOTE]If I am not marrying them I don't care how they got hot, gym, plastic surgeon, genetics, fairy-godmother whatever. As long as they are currently hot why should I care?

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2468021]Jessica Rabbit.[/QUOTE]Yes, that would be nice.

Afraid to go out with this lock down. I see police pass by the end of the street or past me about every 25 minutes which turn into every 15 minutes if I am walking around. Standing outside my hotel watching the people. Just a few people out going to the mini convenience store or drug store at the end of the block and the homeless people. I did not have a girl so I gave my money to a girl selling suckers. She was around 23. Her leg was horribly burned. I had to give her the $55,000 ($15 USD) in my pocket. She got to me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468060]You mean the transformation from this original one to the build-a-bich one that Wolf is in love with? Remember Wolf, your kids are going to come out looking like the 2010 version.[/QUOTE]"Build-a-bich".

Reminds me of an idea I had for spoof: "The Six Billion Peso Prepago. ".

"We can rebuild her.

We have the technology.

We have the ability to make the first bionic prepago.

We can make her better than she was before.

Better. Stronger. Faster. ".

[QUOTE=Turgid;2468168]Some 15 years ago I met an ex-girlfriend of mine who was married for 10 years at the time. I inquired of her sex life and she told me it consists of her stooping under the computer desk sucking her husbands dick while he watches porn and empties the contents of his testicles into her mouth.[/QUOTE]Now that's a devoted wife.

Anyone else using Seeking?

I have been having some annoying issues. Sometimes when I click back, it logs out. Sometimes when I click a profile, it says there is no profile, but if I click enter in the address bar, it works. It doesn't load or update the search / message lists properly.

I think I had an issue months ago because I was using a VPN, then wasn't, or vice versa. Not sure what is going on now.

A girl that was in Medellin my last trip just returned from her city, yesterday. She had fallen in love with me in December (take that with a grain of salt, obviously), but I wasn't paying, and we stayed in contact after I left. She ended up in Cartagena for a bit, and as usual, I kind of just stopped talking to her. Anyway, she recently dyed her hair from blonde to dark brown, and wow! I will be spending the afternoon waiting for her to wake up so I can try to convince her to come over despite the law. A little sin condon action, and being the beneficiary of her newfound twerking tricks, might make for a nice little Sunday Funday.

[QUOTE=Combo;2468234]Now that's a devoted wife.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a submissive wife living in the town of Stepford in Fairfield County, Connecticut who has been brainwashed into submission.

[QUOTE=Combo;2468234]Now that's a devoted wife.[/QUOTE]Now if you were only to hear his version of the story. 😂.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2467915]Look at the number of "beans" they have. If it's over 2,000 just scroll on. Ideally you'll find one with under 10 beans. Chat nice with them. Let them know you're familiar with Medellin. Maybe mention some restaurants or night clubs. Give some gifts, enough to get their attention. Send them a private message. You can do that by clicking on their name, then click on chat. Say a few nice things, throw out your WhatsApp in case they want to talk. You may have to chat more before they'll move to WhatsApp.

Once you have their WhatsApp, it's up to you to figure out if they're a pro or non-pro.[/QUOTE]Maybe it was different when you did it but after a half hour of just blindly scrolling I only saw two girls who fit your criteria. Compared to the ease of assembling a facebook list of amigas Bigo seems like 50 times the effort for a fraction of the results.

And if I can get my old man rant on, is this what people like to watch? Girls swaying their bodies to popular tunes while a cacophony of annoying chimes and animated gifs get vomited all over the screen?

Villainy, thanks for going out of your way to leave this reply. I appreciate it a lot.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2468189]OK you arrived on March 15. Normally (we are NOT in normal) you get a 90 day term for your visit (the stamp in your passport) at the end of 90 days you should be leaving the country. You do have the option to extend for another 90 days by going to Migration Colombia offices and requesting an extension and paying whatever they charge (it's not a lot) and they give you a second 90 day stamp. You are NOT allowed to stay in country for.

More than 180 days during a calendar year. The fines are substantial and they will hold you up at the airport until you pay them.

OK that was the normal procedure.

Migration Colombia offices have been closed during the quarantine. There was a general announcement. Your 90 day tourist visa (the arrival stamp in your passport) was suspended when the quarantine started and.

Until the quarantine officially ends the clock is suspended. I. e. You March 15th entry means you only used 10 days (I don't remember the exact start date of the quarantine but it was around March 25th) it has been extended several times. So until it ends the clock is shut down. You obviously can stay through the rest of this year. And then in 2021 you get a new 180 days..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joem1000;2467538]Hello everyone,

First post here. I would like to thank all of you for sharing your valuable knowledge about Medellin. I am planning on going there for my first time next June and staying at the Mansion for a few weeks. I have been working on building up my Facebook chica list. Would any of you be willing to share some Facebook chica contacts that sell their videos and provide sessions in Medellin?[/QUOTE]There is a search function on the thread. In the grey area just above where it says "This forum thread is moderated by Admin" and to the right. It says search thread. Enter the word facebook and go back and read every thread, there is a lot of advice and directions to be found. I noticed that you went through the effort to get a membership so you have private message capability. Check your messages, I am sending you some tips.

[QUOTE=Talon;2468315]Maybe it was different when you did it but after a half hour of just blindly scrolling I only saw two girls who fit your criteria. Compared to the ease of assembling a facebook list of amigas Bigo seems like 50 times the effort for a fraction of the results.

And if I can get my old man rant on, is this what people like to watch? Girls swaying their bodies to popular tunes while a cacophony of annoying chimes and animated gifs get vomited all over the screen?[/QUOTE]Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.

Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.

The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2468241]Anyone else using Seeking?

I have been having some annoying issues. Sometimes when I click back, it logs out. Sometimes when I click a profile, it says there is no profile, but if I click enter in the address bar, it works. It doesn't load or update the search / message lists properly.[/QUOTE]Recently I have the log out issue frequently. I think there is a bug in the search function but I don't know if we experience the same thing. I have not experience the fake block problem you have.

Thanks Mojo! I checked the PM's you sent. Thank you for the info!

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2468338]There is a search function on the thread. In the grey area just above where it says "This forum thread is moderated by Admin" and to the right. It says search thread. Enter the word facebook and go back and read every thread, there is a lot of advice and directions to be found. I noticed that you went through the effort to get a membership so you have private message capability. Check your messages, I am sending you some tips.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Talon;2468315]Maybe it was different when you did it but after a half hour of just blindly scrolling I only saw two girls who fit your criteria. Compared to the ease of assembling a facebook list of amigas Bigo seems like 50 times the effort for a fraction of the results.

And if I can get my old man rant on, is this what people like to watch? Girls swaying their bodies to popular tunes while a cacophony of annoying chimes and animated gifs get vomited all over the screen?[/QUOTE]I never said it was better than Facebook. Facebook is easy and absolutely free. Anyone looking for working girls on Bigo is wasting time. You can find them, but you are much better off with Facebook.

My focus has been non-pros and I've been successful. I've got 5, all friends, all university students, all 19+22, all middle class. There's a sixth one, but she tried to scam me. Of the 5, 3 have sent me full nude videos, 2 have sent masturbation videos and 1 of the holdouts is supposed to do a lesbian video with her best friend this week. Two of them are hooked.

I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.

My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.

You do not need to be walking around Medellin to get service. You have the casas. You have the facebook girls who come to you. Some of the prepago web sites have chicas who will come to you. The truth is that I cannot remember the last time I banged a chica outside of my apartment bed.

[QUOTE=StarMariner;2468427]I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.

My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StarMariner;2468427]I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.

My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hell no your not to late to Monger at 73!

I have a friend older than you who up until a few months ago was banging hoes in the Plaza Botero / Veracruz area daily. When things open back up get your ass down there.

Stay in Poblado like before in nice digs, and taxi to El Centro. Even if your body is weaker, no problem, as plenty of girls will service you without you having to do anything except lay there if you want. You actually won't recognize the place in terms of girls, there's hundreds of them with the invasion of the Venezuelans.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2468213]Afraid to go out with this lock down. I see police pass by the end of the street or past me about every 25 minutes which turn into every 15 minutes if I am walking around. Standing outside my hotel watching the people. Just a few people out going to the mini convenience store or drug store at the end of the block and the homeless people. I did not have a girl so I gave my money to a girl selling suckers. She was around 23. Her leg was horribly burned. I had to give her the $55,000 ($15 USD) in my pocket. She got to me.[/QUOTE]How is helping another human in clear distress and struggle "caving" ? Man, you've got issues.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2468340]Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.

Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.

The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.

You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.

Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.

If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.

Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy.

A lot of the working girls are trying it right now. They don't have customers and they need the money. The ones who get up to 5 million a month and more aren't likely to want to handle old gringo dick for 50 k.

You don't need to embrace the latest technology, but it helps to be aware of it.

[QUOTE=StarMariner;2468427]I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.

My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Consider staying in Laureles to avoid the hills of Poblado. There are many sources of girls who are more than happy to come to you. If the desire is still there, you're not too old.

[QUOTE=StarMariner;2468427]I have, in my time, mongered throughout the world principally in Asia and South America. I still have fond memories of Medellin, staying in Poblado but mongering in Mayorista and occasionally around Plaza Botero / Vera Cruz.

My question is am I too late at 73 to monger in Medellin. Libido is high but body is weaker. Any insight would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You say your body is weak. Well if possible get in shape. Losing weight gives you so much more energy. In the last three years I went from 220 lbs to I'm now at 158 lbs. If you are over weight it is the worst when it comes to what you want to do.

You say you were a fan of Mayorista. I bet I saw you there years ago. I would spend most of my time there 10 years ago. It was a picnic then. Not anymore sadly.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2468340]Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.

Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.

The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I totally agree that between the quarantine and the addiction of being glued to a screen, people are turning into zombies that forget simple life pleasures and the importance of getting outside.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2468375]My focus has been non-pros and I've been successful. I've got 5, all friends, all university students, all 19+22, all middle class. There's a sixth one, but she tried to scam me. Of the 5, 3 have sent me full nude videos, 2 have sent masturbation videos and 1 of the holdouts is supposed to do a lesbian video with her best friend this week. Two of them are hooked.[/QUOTE]That sounds great.

I'm curious, what the scam attempt was? Want to make sure I miss it myself.

Am I reading this correctly? You give beans to girls but it is not nudity or sexual? What for? I can see girls on Instagram or Twitter for free? Is it like a video call? But without nudity seems pointless. I guess I need to download and learn more about it, but I can also go to Camsoda and be a cheapskate and not tip and watch many colombian girls for free.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2468535]Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.

You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.

Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.

If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.

Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy.

A lot of the working girls are trying it right now. They don't have customers and they need the money. The ones who get up to 5 million a month and more aren't likely to want to handle old gringo dick for 50 k.

You don't need to embrace the latest technology, but it helps to be aware of it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2468535]Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.

You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.

Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.

If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.

Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy..[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jbj64;2468574]Am I reading this correctly? You give beans to girls but it is not nudity or sexual? What for? I can see girls on Instagram or Twitter for free? Is it like a video call? But without nudity seems pointless. I guess I need to download and learn more about it, but I can also go to Camsoda and be a cheapskate and not tip and watch many colombian girls for free.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jbj64 for the info. How much do the Beans cost to hand out? Is this just me that this sounds like a whole lot of hassle and effort to search a Bingo chica to have a date with.

Just saying.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2468574]Am I reading this correctly? You give beans to girls but it is not nudity or sexual? What for? I can see girls on Instagram or Twitter for free? Is it like a video call? But without nudity seems pointless. I guess I need to download and learn more about it, but I can also go to Camsoda and be a cheapskate and not tip and watch many colombian girls for free.[/QUOTE]You don't have to do anything. You don't have to give anyone anything. There's nobody suggesting you should go there. It's simply a currently popular app.

At some point in the not too distant future guys are going to start getting messages from the girls they used to see asking them to check out their Bigo, or whichever other livestream app they are using.

The world is changing every day. Whether or not you keep up with it is entirely up to you.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2468340]Yes they are all into creating, editing, watching these stupid time wasting apps like tictoc and bigo and about a dozen others, what a waste of a life.

Case in point is my 18 yo Vennie who I accepted in to my apartment to help her out in mid March when the quarantine was to last for 3 weeks, it seams like a lifetime ago, well now over 4 months later and she is, I shit you not, on those apps at least 15 hours each day, every day, I just shrug my head, she is literally zoned into that shit, lost like a zombie in another world.

The total is all stupid stuff with lip syncing to a song or just blable blable blable, yes it can be very irritating when she has the volume up just a bit. Then she will spend 6 to 8 hours making her own 15 second clip, then another, and another, never ending.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I'm waiting to hear that besides what you described, she like's watching the Simpsons, but that might be before her time.

It's sad that so many of these young women have no intellectual capacity or desire to learn something or study. So I can see it's frustrating for you having a live-in that's spaced out all day. So that's the bad part of the arrangement.

However the good part is when you have morning wood, or "ganas" any time of day, you don't have to go far. So I would think this would outweigh your frustrations with her if she doesn't cost anything to have around except feeding her, and you can come and go as you please and bang other Chicas with no drama.

[QUOTE=DrPorn;2468551]I totally agree that between the quarantine and the addiction of being glued to a screen, people are turning into zombies that forget simple life pleasures and the importance of getting outside.[/QUOTE]Zombies is one way to put it. I've been traveling to Colombia since 2014. And one of my friends, who moved to MDE permanently would always say the women in Colombia had pea brains.

I don't disagree with his term pea brain LOL.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2468375]My focus has been non-pros and I've been successful. I've got 5, all friends, all university students, all 19+22, all middle class. There's a sixth one, but she tried to scam me.[/QUOTE]They may not be pros, but it appears that some of them are cons.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2468658]They may not be pros, but it appears that some of them are cons.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct. But there's an advantage to dealing with middle class non-pros. They go completely into panic mode when their reputation is at stake. She seems to have had a change of heart.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2468591]Thanks Jbj64 for the info. How much do the Beans cost to hand out? Is this just me that this sounds like a whole lot of hassle and effort to search a Bingo chica to have a date with.

Just saying.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. I'm not suggesting anyone drop everything and go rush off to the livestreams and hope to score. For almost everyone it will be a waste of time and money.

However, millions of people are using the livestream apps. There are dozens out there and more every day. Some people enjoy it. If they're going to try, my method may help.

There are guys who think making 5 laps around El Centro looking for a date is a waste of time. There are guys who think visiting 3 strip clubs or 5 casas looking for a date is a waste of time. There are guys who think Facebook is a waste of time. No matter what, someone is going to tell you it's a waste of time.

Geeze, you've got a girl living at your expense who's spending 15 hours a day on Tik Tok and you want to talk about wasting time?

What is the consensus of when we can plan on returning? The airport reopening and unrestricted (I. E. No 14 day quarantines) visits?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2468761]What is the consensus of when we can plan on returning? The airport reopening and unrestricted (I. E. No 14 day quarantines) visits?[/QUOTE]When the President of Colombia says so.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2468761]What is the consensus of when we can plan on returning? The airport reopening and unrestricted (I. E. No 14 day quarantines) visits?[/QUOTE]Supposedly they will begin allowing international flights again on Sept 1, but they've already moved the date back several times now and even if it's correct this time there's no guarantee they'll permit flights from the US, due to its current status as a viral hotzone. I definitely wouldn't be booking hotels and making travel arrangements until it's absolutely certain.

[QUOTE=DrPorn;2468551]I totally agree that between the quarantine and the addiction of being glued to a screen, people are turning into zombies that forget simple life pleasures and the importance of getting outside.[/QUOTE]The simple pleasures of life are now to be found on the screen.

[QUOTE=Talon;2468767]Supposedly they will begin allowing international flights again on Sept 1, but they've already moved the date back several times now and even if it's correct this time there's no guarantee they'll permit flights from the US, due to its current status as a viral hotzone. I definitely wouldn't be booking hotels and making travel arrangements until it's absolutely certain.[/QUOTE]If they act as seriously as Singapore, I wouldn't check news compulsively every day hoping to find that things have changed:
[URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/leisure-travel-may-not-be-possible-this-year-wong[/URL]
We all need to exercise patience. I would sign a paper to commit, if I could be guaranteed to be able to have holidays in Colombia in Spring 2021. Any less month is a gift from the Sky, and it is an optimistic target.

Unless you are comparing it to maybe North Korea, how is whatever is happening in Singapore in any way relevant, indicative, germane, or otherwise related to Colombia? That was a rhetorical question, never mind. The real question is why did you bring it up?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2468787]If they act as seriously as Singapore, I wouldn't check news compulsively every day hoping to find that things have changed:
[URL]https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/leisure-travel-may-not-be-possible-this-year-wong[/URL]
We all need to exercise patience. I would sign a paper to commit, if I could be guaranteed to be able to have holidays in Colombia in Spring 2021. Any less month is a gift from the Sky, and it is an optimistic target.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2468825]Unless you are comparing it to maybe North Korea, how is whatever is happening in Singapore in any way relevant, indicative, germane, or otherwise related to Colombia? That was a rhetorical question, never mind. The real question is why did you bring it up?[/QUOTE]I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2468861]I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.[/QUOTE]Not sure if it is USD, It is $2000/14 days quarantine, plus test for $200. The round trip total is $4400 but if you are in US, your cost will only be one way. All the quarantines are done in isolation, some in government facilities or are monitored so don't dream about you can get chica to come while in quarantine. On top of that, you have to wear mask while flying and you may even choose to wear goggle which may make you not wanting to fly again. In quarantine's term, 14 days is actually 14+1 so you lost about of 30 days if you can't work remotely or you don't work.

I think it asks the citizens not to travel may not be the best advice. If you are able to get into the countries with 0 case you can travel freely once you are in it so why not if you have the means to do it?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2468876]Not sure if it is USD, It is $2000/14 days quarantine, plus test for $200. The round trip total is $4400 but if you are in US, your cost will only be one way. All the quarantines are done in isolation, some in government facilities or are monitored so don't dream about you can get chica to come while in quarantine. On top of that, you have to wear mask while flying and you may even choose to wear goggle which may make you not wanting to fly again. In quarantine's term, 14 days is actually 14+1 so you lost about of 30 days if you can't work remotely or you don't work.

I think it asks the citizens not to travel may not be the best advice. If you are able to get into the countries with 0 case you can travel freely once you are in it so why not if you have the means to do it?[/QUOTE]I have suggested similar things to the lawyer I have been talking to. I asked him if I can get a special visa where I pay a premium on the humanitarian flight, once I get there I will pay whatever they ask to stay at whichever place they require for 14 days, I will even pay official guards assigned by the government to secure the place where I stay.

My lawyer said it's better to wait until 9/1st, they are likely to require self quarantine anyway. Business visa won't work while the quarantine is in place, I tried. I even naively asked if I can get some special treatment given that I'm employing a team of people (including a few phds) in Medellin, and I'm trying to bring advanced technology to the country. Etc, the lawyer looked at me funny, in a gentle way, he said that do you think any politician will sign a special treatment for a gringo to travel to Medellin just because he runs a company here, especially when all the local businesses are closed? He has a point.

My true motivation / desperation of going back to Medellin is, beyond a doubt, the reunification with my 12 girlfriends (10 now, 2 of them turned 22 already). I'm optimistic about 9/1, I don't believe nature can be this cruel.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2468876]Not sure if it is USD, It is $2000/14 days quarantine, plus test for $200. The round trip total is $4400 but if you are in US, your cost will only be one way. All the quarantines are done in isolation, some in government facilities or are monitored so don't dream about you can get chica to come while in quarantine. On top of that, you have to wear mask while flying and you may even choose to wear goggle which may make you not wanting to fly again. In quarantine's term, 14 days is actually 14+1 so you lost about of 30 days if you can't work remotely or you don't work.

I think it asks the citizens not to travel may not be the best advice. If you are able to get into the countries with 0 case you can travel freely once you are in it so why not if you have the means to do it?[/QUOTE]What you just described is going to be the worst case scenario for entry into a Country which would mean testing and quarantine to get into a Country (15 days) , and depending on where your returning to another possible 15 days. I see very few board members having the means to do this. Hopefully some Countries will come up with a test a few days before arrival, then quarantine for few days with another test, and then you get released. I think there are a few Countries doing something like this now, and when you add the fact that Countries are blackballing other Countries from entering it's an ever evolving situation. Additionally, some members might not want to visit a Country with serious COVID problems like what is happening in the USA and starting to happen in Colombia now.

Long story short, I have almost resigned myself that until there's a vaccine, I most probably won't be getting on a flight going Overseas. But I am very tempted to do so as the DR has opened up and I talked with a guy who landed in Santo Domingo about a week ago who filled out a form upon arrival and was released, no tests, no quarantine.

Unfortunately, it's too fucking hot and humid there this time of year but an option.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2468535]Bigo and Tik Tok aren't really comparable. Tik Tok is a video sharing app. Bigo is a livestreaming app. Both are entertainment services, but not really the same thing.

You should be interested in these apps, because they are changing things. Tik Tok is being used to coordinate political activism, and because it's mostly kids, it's flying under the radar. With it's popularity it may well become a major factor in world politics.

Bigo is a money making opportunity for a lot of young women and it is currently ridiculously popular in Colombia. There are many different agencies recruiting girls to work on Bigo. They have an advantage over the webcam apps. No special equipment is required. There's no nudity, so there's no risk to the reputation. One of the girls recently sent me her pay schedule. The models collect "beans" (I don't know why beans, instead of coins or diamonds). Each "gift" has a bean value.

If she collects 30,000 beans in a month she receives 1. 5 million pesos. 60,000 = 3 million pesos. 100,000 = 5 million pesos.

Earning 30,000 the first month is hard. Earning 60,000 the 2nd month is hard. However, if she sticks with it 3 months 100,000 becomes fairly easy.

A lot of the working girls are trying it right now. They don't have customers and they need the money. The ones who get up to 5 million a month and more aren't likely to want to handle old gringo dick for 50 k.

You don't need to embrace the latest technology, but it helps to be aware of it.[/QUOTE]This is interesting. I wonder if and how this impacts the availability of P4 P post pandemic.

The world is a big place with a lot of sex starved men. Medellin for all its bounty of available pussy.

Is a much smaller place with a finite resource. When it is just the adventurous gringos it is one thing.

But if the online hordes arrive and throw even a few pennies a piece, those paisas will be making decent.

Money. That's a legitimate concern. It certainly could affect the quality.

So full disclosure I only ever been to Singapore for business trips. I think four or five times. I can't think of anything that reminds me of the Americas about Singapore, not even the Americans I've met there. But fair enough, it is as valid to guess how closely Colombia will follow Singapore's policy as any other country's policies. So in that spirit, does someone want to touch on Brazil, Russia, Spain or the Dominican Republic? If the goal is to highlight countries with restrictive policies then as I mentioned North Korea would be the gold standard (no, I've never been there LOL!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2468861]I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2468861]I believe he brought Singapore up to illustrate what might be the requirements for entry into Colombia when they do open back up, therefore it would be germane to some of the questions posted by others.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Thank you for explaining correctly. Very germane.

I brought Singapore as an example because I believe that several seem too optimistic about getting back to normal soon, like if the virus does not exist anymore. Instead, I am afraid we are still far from the tunnel exit.
Singapore is not Colombia, is not USA, and this explains why the number of cases in Singapore has been always small and limited to few circles (mainly dormitories for foreign workers). They will NOT open the borders to tourists for a long time (imagine how depressed I am for this: I was used to go KL, Singapore and Batam at least 3 times a year, with 6 border crossings each time).
By the way, I hope Mr. K is familiar with Singapore enough to know that mentioning North Korea is out of context. Singapore is one of the most open countries in the world. Nearly anyone can enter without visa for tourism. Singapore economy is largely based on free circulation of foreign people.

I doubt either Colombia or USA will be ever so serious and strict as Singapore, but this also means that things there will be out of control for much longer. Keeping borders closed at least from red countries, for a country as Colombia, is the minimum they can do to limit damage.

Work has been keeping me busy more than usual. I just came out of a none-stop 72-hour work marathon. Attempting to escape the reality that this will be another 100 hour work week, I put on some Mozart and poured a glass of the most beautiful Japanese Whiskey. During these trying times, the only thing that relaxes me is my memories of the FKK globe, the beaches of Rio de Janeiro and Costa Rica, and especially my time in Medellin.

I have been pondering an obvious question, what made ISG so appealing to me? [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] My conclusion is that because its content brings back my best memories. When a person experienced something as divine as mongering in Medellin, he will look for any opportunity to relive about that experience.

I can confidently say every frequent poster on this thread loves Medellin deeply; it is beyond just the mongering experience. There is something about the culture, the aesthetics of the city, the proud spirit of the people, the down-to-earth humanness, the naivete and tenderness of the paisas that deeply attract us. On the surface, we challenge each other's view, fight over Gusto v. S. Streetwalkers, Poblado v. S. El Centro, Casas v. S. The mansion. But deep down, we are here often because we all love Medellin.

I don't have anything new to contribute because I'm stuck in this hell hole called California. But I can share one of the many remarkable experiences I had in Medellin.

It was a regular workday in November 2019. I was living in a penthouse apartment in Medellin, I had lots of work to finish up that night, so I didn't go out. One of my favorite girl at Gusto texted me all night, for the most part, I ignored her. She texted me again at 2 am, right after Gusto closed, asking me to go to Paradise, where we first met. I wanted to work for a few more hours, so I ask her to come to my place instead of going to Paradise, she quickly agreed. Around 2:45 am, she rolled up at my apartment, driven by one of the taxi drivers that I usually use at Gusto.

Upon arrival, the cab driver immediately tried to sell me tussi, for 100 k per gram, he knows that on a typical Friday night at Gusto, I will burn through more than one gram, and I buy from him all the time. However, on that night, I still had work to finish, and I have lots of important meetings in the morning. I told him to fuck off, but he kept on saying, "the lady needs to tussi", and my girl tried to push for the sale. I was way too sober at that time to fall into this trap, I immediately told both of them to fuck off, and ran back into my gated apartment building.

After returning to my apartment, I continued to work, until at 3:30 am, the Gusto girl texted me again using some cryptic Spanish that even confused google translate. I don't remember what we talked about, but she agreed to come back to my apartment at 4:20 am, without the Gusto driver. 4:20 am on the dot, she showed up, and I decided to stop working.

Upon entering my apartment, she acted a little sad, as if I had betrayed her, I was still sober and hadn't had a drop of alcohol for the entire day, I tried to Google Translate my reason to her. She started to feeding me Whiskey, and some tussi she brought over, after about 20 minutes, I'm entirely in my party mode. I turned off my phone and started to makeout with her.

We kissed for a good 5 minutes. After that, I was utterly turned on. She put on some Latin dance music, and we started dancing in front of a full-length mirror in my living room. We kissed passionately while moving in front of our reflections. Slowly, she stripped down to her panties; black eyes will never escape my memory. My cock was rock hard and pressed aggressively against her panties; I can feel she was soaking wet.

We danced through many sounds while admiring our naked body movement. When the music's tempo increased, I pushed her against the mirror, pulled her panties aside, and slid my dick into her pussy. I fucked her voraciously until the music slowed down, I snored a line of tussi on her neck before pulling my cock out of her pussy and resuming grinding her over her panties.

After dancing and fucking in front of my living mirror for some time, we grabbed two beers headed to the balcony, we both wanted to dance under the last bit of moonlight before the sun takes over. On my balcony, we pressed our naked body tightly against each other, moved along with the music, and savored the kaleidoscope of lights on the mountains of Antioquia. From time to time, she looked at me with an innocent smile that god only reserved for 18-21 year-olds, and said "baby, I like" and then pointed to the view. I smiled at her for a few seconds, and then we started kissing. (I wish I knew some Spanish back then, I would love to say "Yo tambien, Yo Creo que eres más hermoso que la luz de la luna".

As the 6 am morning air starts to creep in, Medellin blissed me with a melanic rain. We moved back inside of my living room, we cuddled together to enjoy this early morning rain. Watching the raindrops landing on my balcony aimlessly while witnessing the colorful mountain lights disappearing under the gray sky, a feeling of melancholy and romanticism secretly united us.

Sitting on my couch, we started kissing ferociously, before I knew it, she commenced a blowjob as her life depends on it. From time to time, she will stare deep into my eyes while sucking me, the rawness of that stare conveys a mysterious desire of anger, love, and emptiness. Listening to the symphony of raindrops and watching the reddish sunlight attempting to break the dark cloud while receiving a passionate blowjob from a smoking hot 21-year-old Paisa, got be one of the best things in life. Having Mozart's concerto 21 and the first movement of Bach's concerto for two violins playing in my had solidified this instance as one of the most memorable moments in my life.

During this earth-shattering blowjob, when she felt that my cock is hard enough to fuck she will hop on and try to rid me like no tomorrow. If she feels I have gotten soft, she will switch back to sucking my cock. This heavenly experience marched to an end when the sun finally won its battle against the rainy cloud.

When the sunlight-filled my living room, we moved to the master bedroom, where we fucked like this was the last time we will ever fuck, her sweat and body warmth only enhanced my desire to penetrate her harder. I don't remember if I cum in her mouth or inside her pussy, I have fucked enough women to know that I have already gotten the most out of the night. I remember waking up 3 hours later, hurry to call into my first meeting while she is sleeping in my bed. I remember I give her the standard 600 k that I usually give to all my Gusto favorites.

I don't know about other people's situations, but for me, the experience I described is nearly impossible to find in Northern California. In Medellin, I can have it every night; in fact, this experience doesn't even make it to my top 10 in Medellin. God, I miss Medellin. I'm confident that Medellin will open in September, I have already decided to move there for at least six months. I will have new reports to share by then.

Yes this China virus is the shits but after this past long 4 day weekend under very strict quarantine here in Medellin got out today and spent about 4 hours in Botero and the Vera, plenty of pussy out and about, plenty of police too but not hassling anyone.

I dare to say that other than the vast majority of shops being closed the area was a buzz of activity. My buddy and I got a few numbers, saw and said Hi to some familiar faces and in the end I met up with my old ATF and felt in the giving mood so took her for a romp in the hay at one of those 5 mil room hotels in the Vera. Left satisfied as always with her as she is a sweetie.

If nothing else it was good just to be out and walk around and the weather was perfect which made for a pleasant afternoon.

Much love and respect.

The Tall Man.

From Avianca today:

The most complicated times are about to pass, and our commitment is stronger than ever. The time to spread our wings and fly again is near, and we want to tell you about the new facilities to achieve a better Elite status, to be able to enjoy better benefits on your LifeMiles program.

We lowered the qualification requirements for the 2020 period, this way all our loyal travelers will have a greater chance to achieve a better Elite status.

Your new Elite level will be valid until January 31st, 2022.

The goals for 2020 were reduced in a 50% for all levels:

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2468934]This is interesting. I wonder if and how this impacts the availability of P4 P post pandemic.

The world is a big place with a lot of sex starved men. Medellin for all its bounty of available pussy.

Is a much smaller place with a finite resource. When it is just the adventurous gringos it is one thing.

But if the online hordes arrive and throw even a few pennies a piece, those paisas will be making decent.

Money. That's a legitimate concern. It certainly could affect the quality.[/QUOTE]It doesn't. Not significantly. Most of the working girls are as attached to their ways as most of the mongers. They'll try it for a few weeks, won't see immediate success and will go back to begging guys to send them money.

Most of the girls (and many of the guys) are incredibly short-sighted. They have no concept of trying to establish anything, whether it's a reputation for good, prompt service, or whether to save money for the future.

One of the girls I bought videos from hits me up every 7-10 days, desperate and hungry, needing anything I can send her. Meanwhile, 6 times a day, every day, she updates her WhatsApp status with videos of her partying with her friends. She can't see that she's hurting her cause, because she can't think beyond "right now. ".

So I wouldn't worry too much about major changes. Most things will remain the same.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2469025]Yes this China virus is the shits but after this past long 4 day weekend under very strict quarantine here in Medellin got out today and spent about 4 hours in Botero and the Vera, plenty of pussy out and about, plenty of police too but not hassling anyone.

I dare to say that other than the vast majority of shops being closed the area was a buzz of activity. My buddy and I got a few numbers, saw and said Hi to some familiar faces and in the end I met up with my old ATF and felt in the giving mood so took her for a romp in the hay at one of those 5 mil room hotels in the Vera. Left satisfied as always with her as she is a sweetie.

If nothing else it was good just to be out and walk around and the weather was perfect which made for a pleasant afternoon.

Much love and respect.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reconnaissance. There was one down there I tried to find to get a number before the el centro lockdown 2 weekends ago. She wasn't there that Sunday evening. Maybe I'll try this week again.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2469080]From Avianca today:

The most complicated times are about to pass, and our commitment is stronger than ever. The time to spread our wings and fly again is near, and we want to tell you about the new facilities to achieve a better Elite status, to be able to enjoy better benefits on your LifeMiles program.

We lowered the qualification requirements for the 2020 period, this way all our loyal travelers will have a greater chance to achieve a better Elite status.

Your new Elite level will be valid until January 31st, 2022.

The goals for 2020 were reduced in a 50% for all levels:[/QUOTE]I'm glad to see the reports of Avianca bankruptcy and failure are, so far, false. Its a superior experience to the discount flyers from Ft. Lauderdale. Worth the train ride to Miami Intl.

My recollection is that Avianca did file for bankruptcy in USA Court. But of course, bankruptcy does not need to end in liquidation. I assume they will be in reorganization, just like about every other USA Airlines has done in the past.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2469181]I'm glad to see the reports of Avianca bankruptcy and failure are, so far, false. Its a superior experience to the discount flyers from Ft. Lauderdale. Worth the train ride to Miami Intl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2469221]My recollection is that Avianca did file for bankruptcy in USA Court. But of course, bankruptcy does not need to end in liquidation. I assume they will be in reorganization, just like about every other USA Airlines has done in the past.[/QUOTE]Exactly: Chapter 11. They issued an official statement months ago.

Colombians like to speak bad about Avianca and their poor service, as it happens in many other countries, but I love Avianca. I love their aircrafts, the smile of their employees, the unique uniform of the hostess, the service on board, the cleanness, even their Colombia Tourism spots projected on TV screens onboard.

I am Platinum Flying Blue and I was really disappointed when they moved to Star Alliance, but probably they did it right.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2469144]
One of the girls I bought videos from hits me up every 7-10 days, desperate and hungry, needing anything I can send her. Meanwhile, 6 times a day, every day, she updates her WhatsApp status with videos of her partying with her friends. She can't see that she's hurting her cause, because she can't think beyond "right now. "[/QUOTE]That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.

However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.

By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less!

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2469309]Exactly: Chapter 11. They issued an official statement months ago.

Colombians like to speak bad about Avianca and their poor service, as it happens in many other countries, but I love Avianca. I love their aircrafts, the smile of their employees, the unique uniform of the hostess, the service on board, the cleanness, even their Colombia Tourism spots projected on TV screens onboard.

I am Platinum Flying Blue and I was really disappointed when they moved to Star Alliance, but probably they did it right.[/QUOTE]I to prefer Avianca over COPA because of their planes and always fly Business Class, however their on-board food is terrible compared to COPA's, yet COPA's lounges suck compared to Avianca's, and yes, you can't beat the beauty of the flight attendants. As far as being on time, well AVIANCA is notorious for being delayed where as COPA I think had the best on-time record in the Industry. I always fly out of LOS Angeles to Medellin, so sometimes it's a pain in the ass in Bogota with the lines, etc. Whereas flying on COPA it's a breeze in Panama City, yet they don't have sleeper beds on any of their planes.

And both airlines are Star Alliance members, and that's perfect for me. I log all my miles onto my United account which never expire like AVIANC'A's and COPA's and because they are both Star Alliance members, I get use of the Star Alliance lounge at LAX which is very nice. Since all of the AVIANCA and COPA flights leave in the evening I hit the lounge before the flight, have some great beverages and food thinking about how by the middle of the next day I will be in paradise!

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469019] I don't know about other people's situations, but for me, the experience I described is nearly impossible to find in Northern California. In Medellin, I can have it every night; in fact, this experience doesn't even make it to my top 10 in Medellin. God, I miss Medellin. I'm confident that Medellin will open in September, I have already decided to move there for at least six months. I will have new reports to share by then.[/QUOTE]Hang in there man, your younger versus a lot of other members on this board so you will have many more years to enjoy Medellin. When I talk to my kids about things, not what we do, but what's going on in the World today, I explain to them that when they are older, this will all of just been a speed bump in their lives. Try to imagine the guys over sixty like myself, we've crossed third base and are headed to the finish line, whereas guys like yourself haven't even made it to second base. Try to think of how frustrating this is for the older guys having their wings clipped and being grounded, whereas you have many more years of fun ahead of you so your just going to need to be patient, and yes, I too have memories of the incredible experiences I have had in Medellin, which are etched in my head, like yours, to savior and help pass the time until things open back up.

[QUOTE=Talon;2469348]That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.

However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.

By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less![/QUOTE]Yes, I too noticed that they want the same amount or more for videos than they charged for sex. I guess they have no concept of supply and demand, and feel entitled to replace their lost income, regardless of the value of their products or services. I politely decline.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2469144]It doesn't. Not significantly. Most of the working girls are as attached to their ways as most of the mongers. They'll try it for a few weeks, won't see immediate success and will go back to begging guys to send them money.

Most of the girls (and many of the guys) are incredibly short-sighted. They have no concept of trying to establish anything, whether it's a reputation for good, prompt service, or whether to save money for the future.

One of the girls I bought videos from hits me up every 7-10 days, desperate and hungry, needing anything I can send her. Meanwhile, 6 times a day, every day, she updates her WhatsApp status with videos of her partying with her friends. She can't see that she's hurting her cause, because she can't think beyond "right now. ".

So I wouldn't worry too much about major changes. Most things will remain the same.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Talon;2469348]That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.

However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.

By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less![/QUOTE]All true words as I have seen, experienced this being this played out here in Medellin and has gotten much worse in the past 3 years now (been around Medellin for 10 years now).

They are simply stupid minded putas, even educated ones think this way not limited to the barrio putas (who can be a lot of fun). I too have seen them post photos of a big music and drinking party they were just at, with their old boyfriends drinking till 4 AM, proclaiming their love of life and everything is chimba then, guess what! Within 2 days they are pleading with me that they have nothing to eat for her and her baby, no diapers and they are sooooo sad, jajajaja.

Much love and respect!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Talon;2469348]That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.

However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.

By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less![/QUOTE]These Chicas are very short term and won't remember what you did for them when you get there. You may still have good reasons you want to do it, but the gratitude etc lasts a few days at most.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2469413]These Chicas are very short term and won't remember what you did for them when you get there. You may still have good reasons you want to do it, but the gratitude etc lasts a few days at most.[/QUOTE]*shrug* we'll see. I only helped out those I've fucked multiple times over multiple trips so if they ghost or start acting entitled I'll just move on. That's the beauty of Medellin--if one chica doesn't work out there's literally hundreds to take their place.

Yes, these girls definitely have short memories about the time you "help" them. Not saying they may not appreciate it at the time, but in some ways they come to expect it because, after all, you are a gringo and must be rich. Once you do it, some will see that as weakness and try to come back to the well again and again. Others will be happy you helped and not push it.

The reality is that if it makes you feel good helping one of them you know well. And it financially is not a problem for you. Then do it. If you ever get anything in return, consider it a bonus, but don't expect it. On occasion, I have helped girls I have known for a while. Only in small amounts I know I'll never see again. Sometimes I felt good about it and later regretted it and other times I felt good about it. But never sent enough money to where it hurt. The cost of a lunch these days.

[QUOTE=Talon;2469425]*shrug* we'll see. I only helped out those I've fucked multiple times over multiple trips so if they ghost or start acting entitled I'll just move on. That's the beauty of Medellin--if one chica doesn't work out there's literally hundreds to take their place.[/QUOTE]

Monday

My short-time Nov-Dec trip love interest came over. It was nice to see her. She moved in with a friend, and I'm sure she'll be doing citas soon. Not sure how else she intends to pay rent. We did the standard: dinner, drinks, jacuzzi, music, fuck. She stayed the night and left in the afternoon. Todo sin condon. I think it was once at night, once in the morning, but maybe twice that night. Uber / Didi cost 23.000 & 18.000. When she was leaving, the Uber was 18mins away. She told me to cancel because it's too far away. I explained, it's not like I chose the far one, and there are five siting in the parking lot. So, I end up canceling and the next one is 15mins. All good! Even though it took 3mins to do and should have cost me money to cancel.

She messaged me saying she'll come back whenever I want, if she can find a way to make some money. I might see her again, might not.


Wednesday

I started messaging in the evening. Wifey wanted to come back, but I was already down the rabbit hole. I genuinely don't know if I'll see her for more than 1-2 more threesomes, assuming that option is on the table. Anyway, I had a few that said not last night. I connected with a girl I had chatted with before, around 11 p. She was ready within about 30 mins. Typical fucking Paisa bullshit, this girl sends me an address that doesn't come up on Uber or Didi, so I have to use an address that is near. Didi arrives, she can't find him. I tell her where he is, I tell him to find her address. Communication is spotty, throughout. I ask her if she can pay and I'll pay her back. She says she has no money. Miraculously, she is able to borrow money, and finds her own taxi. So, I have to cancel the Didi ride. They get stopped by police, but no problems.

She messaged me that it hurts when she has sex, and can I not be rough. I had arranged 2 pops, no rules. I told her we could do the jacuzzi, etc, but that I was tired and didn't want to be up all night. I told her I'd unlock the door, and to come to the bedroom when she arrives. Within 30 seconds her clothes are off, and a surprise clit ring is visible. Tight tight body, small but firm and perky tits. Cute and great energy. She is 18 yo and had her braces removed since we first exchanged photos. We're kissing and groping, then she's sucking. She gets on top and just slides it in, sin condon. It is the tightest pussy I have in my terrible memory bank. She was squirming away from me, cat and mouse. It was really amazing. Her on top, then her on top squatting, then spooning, then doggy, then finished missionary with her legs up. She asked for it on her body / chest, and I obliged. We clean up and she starts getting dressed. She asks when we will see each other again. I explain I told her 2 times. She says, let's do 3 next time, same price, but with dinner, jacuzzi, drinks, etc. Works for me. I didn't want to wait around for the re-charge, anyway. After how tight that pussy was, I wasn't about to argue over another round that I didn't even really care about.

She asks for taxi money. The taxi turns out to be her friend that drives Uber, and is waiting downstairs. Everything is starting to add up. She asks for 40 k. 20 each way. I explain to her that it's 11 k on Didi. So, I gave her 30 k. She said the driver told her 40 k. I said, I understand that. It is because she is with a gringo, but I'm only a gringo, not a bobo gringo. So, she leaves understanding and with no complaint. I am already looking forward to having a long, long night with her in the very near future. If she blocks me and I never see her again, it was worth the 230 k. It was like ordering Rappi.

A girl from a pueblo on the outskirts, really good looking light skinned strawberry blonde, asked about coming over today. I was trying to get her over last night. She quoted me 900k. I told here we're not even close, and that was the second-highest number I've heard in Medellin. It's not, but at the time, I was only thinking of this trip. I got her down to 400k + taxis (I offered 400k for TLN no rules). I doubt I'll take her up on anything, but she does have a very unique look. Actually, she said taxis are 90k each way, so I'm definitely not going to pay 180k for transportation, when I can have Pinky & Wifey, together, for less than that.


Tonight

I have a freebie from SA coming over for the normal routine. She asked if she can come at 2 p. I said whoa whoa whoa, I work. We agreed on 6 p. 4 p I had a quick workout then walked to Carulla. Back by 530 p to unload and get ready. She says she's going to be late. 18 yo, cute, we'll see how it goes. Lots of laughing on WhatsApp. Seems like a good connection. Zero discussion of money, at this point.

I messaged a 18 yo smoking hot Paisa on Instagram, and she responded (not very common, for me, at least). She said the standard procedure sounds great, and when. I said I can't tonight, and then she said well the lockdown starts tomorrow. Kind of regretting losing out on that opportunity. I might not get another. Oh, and for those with Instagram, check out @spaebronzemedellin. Looks like a new hot spot for some of the influencer types, and they have some very nice photos! Looks like if you had the balls and desire, you could go for a tan or massage, and be surrounded by beauties, on the right day. (Talking to you, SJobs).

So, in short, WHY THE FUCK DO PAISAS HAVE NO FUCKING SENSE OF DIRECTION?!!?! It's incredibly annoying. I prefer to use UBER / DiDi because you can insert your address, and you know they shouldn't have any issues once they begin the trip. But holy fucking fuck starting the trip is a coin flip, at best. Why would these girls not know this? Why do they not use a street corner address, a local store, something, anything. Fuck!

[QUOTE=Talon;2469348]That's one of the main reasons I never send money--too many girls who bemoan they have a sick grandma or that they can't put food on the table when their social media accounts constantly show them boozing it up with their amigas.

However since the quarantine I've found myself with a surplus of disposable income that I would normally be spending on travel and chicas and have broken my cardinal rule a few times. Only because of these special times and only for my favorite girls. The amounts I sent are ultimately a trivial fraction of my wealth but for them represent being able to pay the utility bill or stave off eviction for a month. Many have been moved to tears in gratitude and promise to make it up to me the next time we meet, so really I think of it more as making a long-term investment in my sex life. I just have to be careful they don't fall TOO head over heals in love with me, hehe.

By they way, what are you paying per video? So far every girl who suggested doing that wanted something absurd, like 200 to 300 mil per video! They refuse to budge from their numbers even when I point out that we've had sex together for less![/QUOTE]It varies greatly. I started out with an experiment. I told each of them I would send 200 mil. Then they would send me what they thought was fair. It worked out like I expected. Some of them sent me a bunch of videos and some didn't send many. The ones that sent a bunch then got a second chance for $15-$30.

When you figure what you can get for free, there's no good price. I look at it like you. I build a bit of goodwill, I get referred to a bunch of friends and maybe it gets a slightly more enthusiastic session some day.

On the dying grandma, sick cat subject.

There was 1 girl who I regularly sent money to. Started out as 200 k about every 6 weeks. Eventually it had grown to 400 k per month. Then once the quarantine hit, she started asking for more. Around the first week of June she kept pushing her upcoming birthday, so I sent some extra. Just before her birthday I sent 700 k, more than enough for her birthday and groceries. She acted offended and immediately got blocked. Haven't talked to her since.

Now the funny part. She was always laying the "te amo" crap on me and telling me that she was saving herself for me. No dates, no other guys. Yeah right. Two weeks after I blocked her, her mother messages me to tell me she is pregnant.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2469395]All true words as I have seen, experienced this being this played out here in Medellin and has gotten much worse in the past 3 years now (been around Medellin for 10 years now).

They are simply stupid minded putas, even educated ones think this way not limited to the barrio putas (who can be a lot of fun). I too have seen them post photos of a big music and drinking party they were just at, with their old boyfriends drinking till 4 AM, proclaiming their love of life and everything is chimba then, guess what! Within 2 days they are pleading with me that they have nothing to eat for her and her baby, no diapers and they are sooooo sad, jajajaja.

Much love and respect!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]On the flip side, although it's rare, there are a few who almost never ask for anything, except advice. I've got one of those. I did send her 80 k to buy a dress for her graduation (She got pregnant at 15 and dropped out, then went back and finished). Then for her birthday I bought her a nice vibrator and some lingerie. That was also a congratulations for finding a job. Now she's trying to find a way to make more money and to start saving some.

Greetings to MDE board,

Reporting my March MDE trip which took place just as intl travel ceased, I'm recent active member from Tijuana HK poster of #10382 (Jan 2020) awarded monger of the year award by some, Tijuana Zone norte was 1st hobbyist trip in Oct 2019,19 girls in 6 day / 5 night report, here's my MDE report that I hope is award worthy:

As I looked up CR, DR & Panama research & RTFF, MDE won out. The situation in China / Europe was evolving & everything was normal in March in US when I left LAX to MDE (layover PTY, Panama in COPA airlines) on 3/11,arrived MDE 3/12 11 am, exchanged few USD to COP, met my airport taxi pickup sent by hotel (wellknown gringofriendly spot in Poblado). Travel was light around this time, airports fairly busy, much more the return flight. I immediately felt Paisa hositality along w / smooth weather as I took 30+min ride to hotel. Settled in, rested bit as & unpacked, quickly headed to Oviedo Mall ctr (big green apple w / leaves you can't miss it in Poblado), got USD exchanged to COP (didn't deal w / ATMS, didn't in Tijuana & was sticking to same plan). Went to Oviedo ctr few times for exchanges & also Sr. Wok Chinese food (4-5 usd combo plate) & smallshops for water bottles (. 40-50 cents avg) etc. Pharmacy had antibiotic AZT 2 usd.

1-2. Came back to hotel 3-4 pm after 1st experience walking in Colombia (cross street with others to make it easier) in Poblado was out of breath from uphill trek common there, but I managed (fit early 30's latin), place I stayed had chicas in lobby by reception & decided to arrange something before I entered my room so I took 2 beautiful chicas along my rm to kickoff my trip, 4 chicas in total were sitting in lobby & said Hi to 2 hottest,1 was A. Stunner 8 near 9 petite olive light complexion 20 yo nice silicone chest, nice butt 5 ft akin to Giselle Montes adultstar,2 was M. Ebony complexion high 7 slim tall all natural cute face early 20's,long legs hot Rihanna look, ea. 220 k for 1 HR, no rush,1 pop ea. ,multiple positions, finished 1 first then 2,both paisas from MDE, I found this to be common (in Tijuana most were from allover MX). Later did repeat A. 2nd time as shared later in this report.

3.5 pm-6 pm ordered bandeja paisa for 20 k (5 usd), rappi app good for food, ate & rested,& medicated some 420,went to hotel bar opened 6 p got there 8 p,saw few ladies in bar (9-12), hottest 9 chica was on phone & waved me off so since I was getting hang of what was what / how it works, I checked others around & greeted next hottest, a solid 8 almost 9, J. Creamy light complexion beautiful shaped eyes, deep blk hair, spinner bod, nice silicone chest, good ass, Kristina Rose adultstar look. Got J. Ficha at bar (5 usd drink) & told her if she wanted to finish drink in my rm lets go, went to rm, gave me 420 cigar since I told her my hotel wasn't that OK w / smoking so I kept it for next chica. J was eye candy in missionary & multiple positions, chest was perfect, passionate sesh & friendly,220 k 1 HR 1 pop, no rush vibe, she was into tussi nose candy as well. I didn't partake, encountered this "being a thing" 1st here.

4. 10-11 pm, as usual got some rest & ate bit, water etc, then headed back to hotel bar 1-2 HR after, less chicas now as it was 12-1 am so got different chica, L. Was mid 20,5 ft, petite, silicone chest, tan medium skin, blk hair chica average 7. Good face & chest is what attracted me most, got her ficha at bar & didn't spend much time, did usual ask name, age, if they have kids etc quick interview & to my rm we went, avg sesh,1 pop, decent, 250 k said she needed taxi fare. It was near 1 am now, was my 1st night so I made plan to have L. Go with me to Parque Lleras, took cigar #3 gave me & enjoyed it outside by tree before taxi to Lleras, got to Lleras & seemed like news & covid stuff was already making nitelife slimmer, Lleras was crowded but not much this Th night, we went to LaMorena bar (most places were closing since 2 am many stop letting people in) enjoyed water bottle for me+beer for chica L. I decided I was going to see scene & said Hi to next chica, but before that gave L. Few pesos for fare on top of 250 k from prior. She gave some drama but I quickly firmly said I gave her enough & that I was going with nxt #5 A. A hot Venezuelan alongside as I left L. In Lleras.

5. Now 2-3 am, A. Was a hot 20 yo body like Jasmine Byrne adultstar, she was Venezuelan all natural body, bubble butt, wearing white dress as I saw her near taxi, nice legs, once I said bye to L. #4 I said Hi to A #5. ,she quoted 200 k 1 HR in Lleras, & I asked near taxi if he was avail, we went to my hotel in poblado, A. Took out 420 j in taxi & lit up as we rode to my place. My place didn't accept her ID / cedula, so taxi took us nearby short time hotel Caban'as 100 k /3 HR place allowed her in rm, enjoyed more 420 & got greek backdoor action 200 k agreed, no upsell or upcharge, I even skipped vag since that A looked good, solid high 7 or 8 in terms of hotness. This sesh was uber hot, A. Was not into grk so she took my lengthy sesh like a champ, not exactly smiling on her part, but was legit good grk action, face down on her belly,200 k I liked this short time grk sesh. 1st Vene chica met. It was my 1st night coming to end, 5 chicas, finished this day at 5 am, already MDE was giving Tijuana steep competition, hotness factor tied for most part but Tijuana HK quality bit higher, value going to MDE.

6. Got up early rested 5 hrs,10 am got comp'd breakfast, had notes ready for trip with locations / places, decided to go early & head to NewL. Fe in centro, hailed taxi with DiDi app & off I went made my 1st trek into dtown MDE. I found dtown definitely similar to Tijuana la Zona, SW scene almost copy & paste in terms of feel / quality. Using address made it to NL massage casa, here was my 1st visit to casa, staff had hand sanitizer ready as you entered, they quickly notified me before chicas came by to say Hi (they do in turns as they come out) that hallucinogen use prohibited, chicas came by to say Hi, picked tallest one, slim mid20's medium tan blk hair, all natural body, name L, session was 75 k for 45 m,got her ficha & enjoyed sesh, which was good decent, FS multiple positions,1 pop. At that 75 k I consider this sesh great for value in terms of convenience (casa location was good, setup straight fwd).

7. My Poblado hotel had been unable to book me on this Fri. 3/13 so I had decided on slumming it at dtwon MDE, often mentioned Hotel be. Tro near behind Hotel Nutibarra this Fri to feelout the places & plzaBtro and vercruz scenes. 1 pm got Didi app taxi to my centro hotel & later headed to Yakusas which is located just behind my hotel and behind Nuti. Yakusas is small location, bar type setup with service similar to casas, around 3-5 chicas when I went 1-2 pm most near 3 to 5 in looks, I took hottest one, high 6 in looks, good body just avg face, but at 50 k + ficha rate I was more than OK with it, finished sesh in small rooms literally nxt to where 2-3 places to sit with girls and drink are, small space but clean and decent in my opinion. Sesh was decent,1 pop no major rules, zero attitude from chica. Less passionate than higher scale girls I had before, but at 50 k rate it was great. 2 casas in one morning / afternoon, it was good 2nd day in MDE.

8. 4-5 pm I decided to go outside & explore dtown el centro my 1st time, got few empanadas (2 k ea, less than 1 usd), binuelos (300-500 pesos, 15-20 cents) to go, walked back to hotel which was located behind Hotel Nutib. On way back walked some streets full of commerce, food stands, shoes / clothes sold, very crowded full of people, was interesting, took in the scene, I took some turns into side streets near Bolivar / clle Peru area where Sn Felip.

9. 7-8 pm was back in my centro hotel, got some downtime & cleaned up, ate bit & the usual, relaxed, decided to contact a FB chica E. I lined up week prior to my arrival in MDE,19-20 yo paisa chica petite slim flat stomach, pretty face, light complexion, young tender look, solid high 7,8 in terms of face / cuteness, E. Had flat chest all natural, slim body. Likely since I met her on FB and had her coming to centro location, she quoted 300 k for 1 HR, arranged her to come by after 9 near 10,she came early shortly after 9 pm to my surprise. Said her mom was waiting on her (likely since she was watching her kid) etc, but sesh was the full hour, very slow paced long pumps, passionate like session with this young spinner cutie. Music playing & was nice, her pink colored vag lips were nice to pump, when I finished she let out slow long breath, I gave her a workout, 40 m atleast. She even tried getting on top, but I liked being in control so switched positions where I was doing the pumps, but she was eager. Liked chica E. Since she reminded me of cute hs sweethearts of times past.

10.11-12 am, I relaxed & rested along with eating bit, then catched taxi to Face2 around 12-1 am, arrived in San Diego area in MDE where face2 is, cover was 10 k,inside very similar to HK in Tijuana main areas, only smaller but stage area / nearby booths / chairs and bar similar to HK in aesthethic, girls were on par as well. Lots groups dispersed drinking, tipping 2 k bills to stage chicas that came by (get 2 k bills in change from 50 k bill, helps here). I spent little time looking around & somewhat was too quick (there were hotter girls) & selected a normal 7 named F. Body like Luscious Lopez, mid20's paisa chica with medium tan, had hair died light color, was decent FS multiple positions for the base 45 m 210 k face2 rate, got my 1 pop & had decent time, average sesh but she was down to earth. Went back to club main stage after chica and myself returned to stage area.

11.2 am nearing 3 am now, was enjoying vibe in face2,got eye of a super hot light skin mulatto redbone chica, tall slender body all natural, she was busy on stage & I spent time waiting for her to come by, even talked up a hot girl named see. I got her number for later in report, ficha'd her & kept waiting for stunner to comenby, didn't happen so as I was back to seeing action a petite sexy 7 came by me I gave in, there were hotter chicas around, but I wasn't sure if all were good to go (next time just go up to them), went up with #11 A. As the girl #10 F. Was going with another monger so was somewhat LOL moment. So A. Looked hot enough to choose, had black small secretary type skirt, dressed nicely, caramel skin akin to Cassandra Cruz adultstar look, mid 20's,5 ft allnnatural body, not toned but fit. Session was on par with last chica,210 k decent sesh, but had to give effort towards my pop since place was closing 3 am & my room had received buzz on phone to finish, had success & chica said she was off to Faisanclub till 6 a. Called it night & headed back to hotel, Taxi back shared intel on San Diego area right by face2, lots SW action.

12. Now Saturday, headed back from centro hotel to my Poblado hotel to check back in there to stay my remaining trip there (going back & forth to centro hotel) 1 pm / noon, taxi time & commute took much of my noon / early day, begun action after 6-7 pm this Sat night in MDE, went to hotel bar around 7-8 p & met and ficha'd sexy high 7,if you like petite bodies body an 8,brown skinned, style like Harmony Wonder adultstar, all natural petite small chest slender cutie chica, early 20's, went to my rm & had good sesh 250 k since she said she needed taxi fair, 1 HR 1 pop, no rush, good to talk to. Got ready we where going to Lleras, however she was inviting her friend, likely would result in me having to spend 200 k+ on ea for drinks so I skipped & let her out but told her sesh was good. Later did repeat A. With her friend in trio as later mentioned in report.

13.10 p now washed up, rested few minutes, then headed back to hotel bar, met J. Early 20's high 6 in terms of looks, medium tan, all natural, had some baby damage in stomach so that's why I say 6,everything else was on par higher, managed a good sesh for usual 220 k, multiple positions, enjoying rubbing up on the nice cheeks with my rod like most chicas allowed me, fun times no complaints. HK chicas in Tijuana were rarely a 6 however, so girl next door all natural types were more common in MDE, offering more slow paced relaxed GFE-like sessions however, so makes up for difference. #13 was likely on the lower quality of this trip but session was good,1 pop & number went into my whatsapp as the routine up to now.

14.11 p-12 a, now charged again, rested went back to bar & spent few minutes talking to chicas in bar, chica named the. Spoke decent English & gave good convo small talk along with 2 nearby chicas sitting, I would choose her later this night, but this instance I was swept off feet by charm and allure of A. A early 20's hottie 8 in looks, body like Jynx Maze with silicone nice chest, hair was died light brwn / blonde, sexy classy tight blue dress, coke shaped body petite. Was a sight to behold in missionary, 220 k 1 pop, no rush, multiple positions, offered to massage me after we were done, nice and among best attitudes of chicas so far, right up there with hot HK talent in Tijuana & face2 chicas.

15.12 a-1 a went back to hotel bar, saw chica which was cute and got her ficha, hotness level 7, ebony girl named A. First and only coastal / costen'a chica I saw (Cali) in MDE, super chill no rush attitude, body not on the slim / petite side but more like Georgia Peach adult star in her prime or Beyonce in terms of body size / thickness / fit level. Bubble butt was amazing as cushion in her face down on belly position, all natural body, decent sized chest, had fun view of me pumping in mirror view, hot sight to behold, body looked hot. 220 k, 1 pop, she even said she had never been to Lleras so she was relatively new to MDE or the scene from what I gaged. Since she was new to area I didn't act on getting her number, should have since she was good in sack. Only saw 1 blk chica while in Tijuana HK, in MDE I already had sessioned with 2 & was enjoying it. At this point Tijuana & MDE were tie in terms of hotness to fun / value ratio.

16.1 a near 2 am, hotel-bar was closing soon & I popped back in with good energy, saw the the. Chica that spoke decent English in #14 chica, the. She asked for bottle of gin / Agua ardiente / whiskey on the pricier side from bar but I treated her to it (75 k, pricey ficha), the. Was late 20's,oldest chica in my opinion so far, slim body all natural, chest on small side, tan like Jynx Maze blk hair but more slender, long legs, sexy physique. Amazing look dolled up with eye mascara & makeup, pretty almond shaped eyes that were amazing to look at during long deep pumps, girl kept high heels on by my request. No rush session, passionate, deep french kissing, no holding back GFE all the way this one. 1 pop, GFE, DFK 1 HR 220 k. Gave her whiskey bottle as gift when she left to her pleasure, all smiles. Later did repeat with the. As shared moreover in this report.

17. Sunday now, I recall night before, after finishing with #16 I tried to get to Luna Lunera (well known stripclub / brothel) but they were closing as I got there between around 3 am, I figured it was open but it may have been operating less with the oncoming covid news from what I recall. Also not 100% sure if I did this attempt trek to LL Sat night or Mon night but it was near 2 h wasted from time I hailed taxi to getting bk (since I talked a bit with taxi and drove around looking for food to no avail since didn't find any interesting at time), whatever happened I begun day with chica action in El centro,[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

18. Went back to Poblado near evening,5-6 pm, went to hotel bar around 7 pm, and saw Laura 19 yo youthful spinner pocahontas sexy petite beauty with blk hair, native look, ala Jasmine Byrne / Harmony Wonder, less than 5 ft small frame, definite high 7 looks, girl next door all natural with small bubble butt and small see chest. Was super chill, ficha'd her at bar and off we went to my rm with her drink, was no rush, allowed DFK, didn't press me on how much just said "whatever you want to give", gave her 200 k 1 HR 1 pop. Didn't last long with this one, hot young spinner had me finish quick, was satisfied said bye to her after thanking her for good time.

19. Now it was 2 am bar was closing, only 1 chica was to be found, she was waiting on bartender to finish as she was leaving with her to their respective places dtown, it was buyers market since just me and her, so I chatted her up, J. A solid 6, maybe 7 body since she had coke shaped proportinate body (think Beyonce, but light complexion), looks like Luscious Lopez adultstar, but I pressed her if she had baby damage and confirmed when she was in my rm after I ficha'd her. If she was slightly more fit she would be high 7,but surprisingly the fact I chatted her more than most before, the session was slightly better, warm vag and fun session,1 pop 200 k 1 HR, no rush, near GFE. Passionate in way Tijuana girls weren't, she even tried moving her body even though I told her I wanted full control, we went thru this few times (me telling her to stop moving so I maintained my rhythm), liked her that she decided to try befriend me, as we finished she said she was giving her bartender friend ride to their places in dtown centro, I said I wanted to be be back dtown to wake up there in my hotel there, so we made plan, me trusting her a working girl to drive me thru dtown at 3-4 am, I hesitated at first but took the chance and said ok. No regrets, sesh below #20 is a repeat of this same J.

20.5 am now on Sun night / Mon. Morning and I am back in my dtown centro hotel after dropped off around 4 am, J. From #19 went to eat briefly with her bartender friend and said if I wanted her to text her etc, so I did via whatsapp, she came by and I let her in, told her I wasn't ready to go to sleep so wanted some company in the mean time & was unsure if I wanted FS but seeing as we had not planned this late repeat I would give her less if I could have at it, settled on 100 k for another round of her staying 1 HR. Enjoyed warm pink vag again for HR, long pumps, mostly missionary and some on top, her face down on her belly position, looked great in mirror, nice pumps in the shapely nice rump. Finished 1 pop, vibe was GFE style, no attitude whatsoever, no rush. Enjoyed 420 as she left, she showered and left me to rest near 6 am. Very interesting experience, didn't regret trusting this chica by far, hidden gem with high amount of fun, hospitality with this chica no doubt. Centro girls offer alot love I found out, she even offered to drive me around if I ever needed but didn't take her up on it due to schedule constraints.

21. Monday its now 3/16, began my day in centro, earlier a miscommunication in possible needed rm change in my poblado hotel had me commute from centro to poblado early noon however it was to no avail since my poblado hotel said I didn't have to change rooms, so seeing I wasted 1 HR in centro to poblado commute I went back to centro dtown hotel to continue adventures. Around 4-5 pm headed out centro near Bolivar / clle peru TS chicas area, & said Hi to TS chica the. 19 yo to 20's 7 in looks Jynx maze body tanner, petite brown skin body slender long legs liked her legs and body very feminine I saw it fit to go, off we went 45 min quote regular 50 k 1 pop, short time rm was 10 k 1 HR, got her ficha, good grk session, nice pear shaped small ample butt, nice view from top of cheeks spread as I pumped hardest I wanted to. All good fun, was amazed how feminine & GFE in attitude these TS chicas were. Again I was completely new to it.

22-23. Was now 6-7 p headed to Poblado hotel since I had prior texted J. From #3 & A. From #12 to have some 420 for me and I would chill with them at bar. Got there and A. Was waiting, took her to my rm for repeat session after ficha'd her at bar, before we started the fun with FS, I asked if she had hot friend and she showed me few pics of some chicas, I asked her I wanted slim girl with boobs, she to my surprise showed me J. From #3, I agreed since I liked her prior so she came in less than 20 minutes, so it was now a threesome session planned. J. brought tussi and both chicas shared it, we got in jacuzzi, I enjoyed their bodies, oogled & sucked on J. 's perfect silicone knockers in the warm hot tub. Was turned on tons when J. Chit chatted to A. How big my rod was, we then moved action to bed. I wasted no time & went at it with J. Her being the hottest of the two (a high 8 near 9 in hotness scale), amazed how this chica got me off so good, amazing eyes to stare at & perfect chest. 1 pop ea, even during my pop for A. I kept looking over at J. Since it got me off so good, both chicas near GFE like, no rush, 250 k to A. For getting her friend over for trio,& 200 k for J. 2nd trio in MDE, giving Tijuana steep competition in major ways at this point.

24-25. Tuesday action for 3/17 began shortly after noon, in dtown centro in plzbtro near statu3's,mus3 um & wasn't sure how to checkout or approach chicas posted nearby areas. Went to 2 ebony chicas I saw, had prospects with 1 only, but as I inquired if they were available in spanish they responded yes & I pressed how much & if they knew good short time rm they would be let in that's nice inside, we went to near short time room & she brought her chica friend along for trio, both 19 yo ebony girls, one J. Mocha lightskin complexion said was from Itagui, other said from Cauca & was more chocolate complexion, both solid 7's in looks, great bodies, nice legs, pretty faces, all natural girl next door look. Rm was 10-20 k got ea. Drinks (beer) & went to rm,1 pop ea. 50 k ea. , had bit under 50 k in bills for 2nd chica but she accepted the 40 ish k I gave her. No rush session, super relaxed, enjoyed myself, very pretty chicas both for 90 k + beers & rm (20 k). Was blown away right after this, wanted to explore more of dtown.

26. After I had gone back to my dtown hotel and rested, got downtime and ate, I trekked to the Bolivar / clle peru TS chicas area 5-6 pm, saw early 20's /19 yo high 6 or 7 TS chica, look of slim slender waist & shapely hips / butt got me & the. Took this TS chica to short time room as usual, 50 k grk session 1 pop, feminine style and great attitude. Other previous TS chicas A. And the. Were hotter by one number above but the grk was good here as well. No shame in the fun and new experiences had, always used protection.

27. Now it was past 7 pm, I may have gone back to my hotel to cleanup, get some minor downtime, relaxation, eating & went back to ground zero plzaBtro, spotted by the bronze tourist statu3's was a 19 yo shy chica forgot name, chica was very timid compared to other chicas, pretty, slim, slender, small chest, Harmony Wonder type body, bronze skin, Indian-Arab bit look, brown eyes,5 ft, blk hair. Solid 7 in looks allnatural. 30 k 30 min sesh in short time room, 1 pop, had negotiated for 2 pops at 50 k but place had understood I wanted 30 min instead of HR. So they knocked during my 2nd pop attempt, ruined my rhythm and I decided that was it, went to ask place why my 1 HR was not honored but dropped the issue & said bye to chica & we went seperate ways. Ok session but not best short time room, room was in Vracruz area, busy place, for 30 k 1 pop it was worth it.

28. Had told chicas from #22-23 to have some 420 for me when I arrived in poblado, J. And A. Were waiting for me as I got to my poblado hotel around 8 pm, smoked outside bar, 2 girls invited a new girl V. Petite slim brunette cutie with blk hair, pretty face, small chest, flat slender build, she came to enjoy 420 with us, so me and 3 hot paisa chicas sharing a doobie. Nice small talk and good vibes, afterwards I took J. From 22-23 for 3rd repeat, that perfect sight of her silicone chest & super sexy body and face, creamy skin & Kristina Rose look and bod had me had great session,200 k 1 pop GFE, passion filled fun, she enjoyed her tussi & was great fun. Was amazed I repeated not twice but 3 times with her.

29.11-12 am now, went back with J. To bar & chatted with A. And new chica V. , who turned out lives with J. And is best friends. Did on the spot quick interview (how many kids do you have, what age are you etc) before getting V. Ficha, but settled on her for taking to my rm, V. Was a hot near 8 in sexy body, overall high 7,slim body like Harmony Wonder light complexion blk hair. If she had perfect face or silicone chests she would have easily been 8-9. Very warm vag, tighter than previous chicas, some minor odor down there as I pumped but it didn't bother me much, pumped harder and more passionately and odor got stronger but it felt very warm, so overall didn't cramp on my style, popped and enjoyed sesh. Chica V. Was a bit more reserved, more mechanical in demeanor but I had less time knowing her than her 2 friends I knew so understandable, she was wearing tight blk dress, her slim slender look was appealing, long blk hair, olive tan skin, creamy complexion, 200 k 1 HR unrushed.

30. MDE was officially in another league in some aspects vs. Tijuana, and I was starting my last day / night of my trip, people were noticeably more on edge now (3/18), more facemasks worn public, taxis mentioning it more, chicas showing concern / worried more, all this happened fast while I was there, situation evolved quickly among public. People in dtown asking pharmacies when facemasks were arriving, shortage was already happening there while in the US more relaxed. I begun this day relatively early around 1-2 pm in dtown centro Vracrz area, went by food shop in corner & greeted very beautiful 19 yo chica which was 2 other chicas, both asked me to grab them some food or asked me for something I didn't per say listen to, asked if the chica I liked was with them & she spoke up, chose her, the. Was a Jynx Maze lookalike, Colombian Latina sweetheart stunner, prettiest so far, super hot high 8 or 9. 30 k for short time sesh, got room nearby for 10-20 k, chica asked for tips & I pressed her for DFK & she delivered, steamy passion filled but brief session 1 pop, warmest vag & hottest body yet, all natural. With tips for DFK around total 50 k. This chica was as hot as the slim 20 yo in my Tijuana HK report, just as tight & overall similar quality.

32. Still in Vracrz I walked side streets & locale lightly doing rounds,& came by hotel doorway where few chicas were,1 was decent 6 in looks, I wasn't looking for stunners & settled on her,30 k for 30 min sesh 1 pop was agreed & up the st room we went. Didn't get this one's name but she was only chica from Bogota I encountered, only "rolo / rola" chica met in MDE. Once in room I saw bigger stomach plus baby dmg than was visible initially, kind of bummed me out, but I got good look of her rump when she bared all & I decided I was going to get my pleasures worth, asked for grk action & she upsold for additional 50 k,so 80 k total, I went with it & got the 1 pop nonstop grk action to my delight, finished & off to the races I was. Was all smiles, grk short time at 80 k was decent.

33. Went back to my hotel in dtown, now it was 5-6 pm, trekked back to ground zero area after resting & usual downtime prep, and assessed the busy area, lots people, saw tall foreigner speaking Spanish to chica near musu3 m,she didn't go with him therefore I decided to go & take her up on an offer,30 k for this stunner petite straight hot 9 chica, only a 9 I say because she had perfect face, perfect slender body, legs, light creamy skin, natural brown / light hair, very cute 19 yo. Had issues going to short time room since one place didn't let her in but other place was no issue,20 k for short room, agreed to 2 pops for 50 k,with a go at it with grk action. Very warm vag, session was great, no rush, ate her rim & kitty cat smilingly,1 pop was mish vag, greek was attempted but too tight (she may have been applying squeeze / tightening on purpose on her sphincter who knows), so got 2nd pop vag again, good feeling, chica was friendly gave her wrigleys chewing gum as tip. 50 k 2 pops.

34.33 was my last play in ground zero in dtown, headed back to Poblado to enjoy last night in MDE, all bars and restaurants were now CLOSED, my hotel bar was closed, girls in dating apps were less wanting to go out, even had a lined up badoo app chica negotiations go sour since over whatsapp text she said she didn't want to go out, only indoors. Saw things were going to be slim, challenging, a sign of what was to come, MDE scene had now gone downhill. Lleras, all clubs, bars closed. Never made it to Isla Club, or Luna Lunera or Conejitas Bar Show, all closed now. No dining places, only delivery available. Changed fast. I contacted A. From #1 for a repeat session, she was among hottest chicas this whole trip, near 9 level chica, good silicone chest & near perfect face / body. Solid repeat session 200 k 1 HR, brought me 420 as well as requested. Sent her off & thanked her for coming to me when some girls wouldn't,was 9 pm when we finished. Concerns were in the air now, chicas expressing worries & some eerie pandemic vibes creeping in MDE. I wasn't paranoid however, still was downplaying it like most in the USA were then.

35. I noticed things were slow and nitelife was dead in such quick time,2 days prior it was in full swing but over past 2 days things had changed fast. The situation when I trekked to Luna Lunera and found it closed that weekend or Monday prior was beginning of the downturn. I decided to try some numbers I had lined up, one of chica met in face2 that I only talked to but didn't try out during my time there Friday night when I saw #10 & #11 respectively, so I chatted her via whatsapp, she apparently was unaware of face2 being closed she had notified me around 7-8 p to go see her at the club, but after I had finished with #33 I saw her txt in regards to face2 being closed, so she would come over for 300 k 1 HR, considering 210 k is her face2 rate, I knew it was more but out of options obliged, she came over. Well this was a starfish, silicone chest, fake butt, looked good but she was reserved way too much, prohibited me touching her boobs or butt, even scoffed at idea of me wanting to spread it,"hand off" type attitude, insane if you ask me but I guess she valued her implants more than letting me fondle them and move them. This irked me but I went forward gave 300 k for 1 HR to follow. Problems continued, many trivial games, complained for me to keep washing hands when I barely touched my body or near shaft, germaphobe mode activated on her part, became annoying, on way to put on rubber it didn't stop. She wanted all lights off, I said I wanted to have look of how hot she was to get off, she was divisive on this decision to the point it ruined mood. It was my room but she kept making issue of it, even turning half of lights was not good enough. I noticed we had burned thru near 30 min with BS,& I was seriously wanting to enjoy my full hour, so I offered 100 k more to ease her or if she would please my desires more. It backfired, covid & foreigner fatigue entered discussion, making it divisive even more since she wanted her way, all while no action begun. I got angry & told her I no longer cared for session with her and if she wasn't going to get F out my room and leave hotel I was going to tell reception she didn't want to leave. It was going no where and I soon learned when you outcall stripclub girls its a gamble, better to see them where they session best and earn less. No effort to please on her part. Sadly this session represents the time I burned out in MDE, akin to my #19 chica in my Tijuana HK report. Sent this chica packing. 400 k lost to BS chica.

36. Now it was my last chance at finishing my last night in MDE, all venues & spots were closed, now 1-2 am. Finished 420 chica had brought me earlier outside around 1 am chilling outside by trees, then remembered the. From #16 the chica who was ecstatic when I ficha'd her a gin / whiskey bottle, txted her on whatsapp & she said she would come to me, it was 2 am, she came before 3 am. This was the finale and farewell session, & I tried to do my best, had music going and was not tired per say, but I couldn't get it up like all other sessions. Maybe the BS I put up with the failed face2 outcall drama hampered my composure, couldn't relax. I tried for near 30 min no avail, settled on letting me get rock hard rubbing up barebck on her bare ass, no penetration but liberal rubbing up basically no rules skin to skin, it got me hard & surprisingly spent near full 10 min enjoying this, I needed something new and thrilling & this was enough, busted without rubber on her rump & cleaned it off as I busted. Happy camper I was, was lame not being able to pump like all other sessions, but 30+ chicas in 1st time experience in MDE was one of a kind. Hopefully MDE and COL returns to its former glory.

MDE: 9 out 10 in my experience.

Tijuana: 8.5 out of 10.

Can't wait to come back. 2020/21 in sight.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2469369]Hang in there man, your younger versus a lot of other members on this board so you will have many more years to enjoy Medellin. When I talk to my kids about things, not what we do, but what's going on in the World today, I explain to them that when they are older, this will all of just been a speed bump in their lives. Try to imagine the guys over sixty like myself, we've crossed third base and are headed to the finish line, whereas guys like yourself haven't even made it to second base. Try to think of how frustrating this is for the older guys having their wings clipped and being grounded, whereas you have many more years of fun ahead of you so your just going to need to be patient, and yes, I too have memories of the incredible experiences I have had in Medellin, which are etched in my head, like yours, to savior and help pass the time until things open back up.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the emotional support! We all belong to this specific era of Medellin; its beauty is unique to our time. The only upside I can see from this quarantine is that it made me appreciate what I had in Medellin more than before.

Costa Rica just announced it would open for international travelers on 8/1 but restricted to the EU, UK, and Canada, passengers must show a negative COVID test result within 48 hours before boarding the plane. ([URL]https://www.ministeriodesalud.go.cr/index.php/centro-de-prensa/noticias/741-noticias-2020/1813-apertura-de-vuelos-comerciales-al-pais-inicia-el-01-de-agosto-con-trayectos-limitados-desde-europa[/URL]) The specific language they used did not mention passports; as long as the flight is originated from Canada, they will let you in. I'm speculating Medellin will apply similar measures. I looked up the requirement for US citizen travel to Canada; it says that we can travel to Canada for essential purposes only. ([URL]https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/travel-restrictions-exemptions.html[/URL]). I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2469476]Monday

My short-time Nov-Dec trip love interest came over. It was nice to see her. She moved in with a friend, and I'm sure she'll be doing citas soon. Not sure how else she intends to pay rent. We did the standard: dinner, drinks, jacuzzi, music, fuck. She stayed the night and left in the afternoon. Todo sin condon. I think it was once at night, once in the morning, but maybe twice that night. Uber / Didi cost 23.000 & 18.000. When she was leaving, the Uber was 18mins away. She told me to cancel because it's too far away. I explained, it's not like I chose the far one, and there are five siting in the parking lot. So, I end up canceling and the next one is 15mins. All good! Even though it took 3mins to do and should have cost me money to cancel.

She messaged me saying she'll come back whenever I want, if she can find a way to make some money. I might see her again, might not.


Wednesday

I started messaging in the evening. Wifey wanted to come back, but I was already down the rabbit hole. I genuinely don't know if I'll see her for more than 1-2 more threesomes, assuming that option is on the table. Anyway, I had a few that said not last night. I connected with a girl I had chatted with before, around 11 p. She was ready within about 30 mins. Typical fucking Paisa bullshit, this girl sends me an address that doesn't come up on Uber or Didi, so I have to use an address that is near. Didi arrives, she can't find him. I tell her where he is, I tell him to find her address. Communication is spotty, throughout. I ask her if she can pay and I'll pay her back. She says she has no money. Miraculously, she is able to borrow money, and finds her own taxi. So, I have to cancel the Didi ride. They get stopped by police, but no problems..[/QUOTE]Bro,

Reading your reports is the definition of "bitter and sweet. " You are in heaven, and I'm in hell, I wish I'm in a position to complain about 18-year-old Paisa's lack of directionality.

I can easily recall numerous occasions when I turned down a smoking-hot Paisa because of her lack of directionality. One of my favorite 19-year-old had a massive fight with me because I think she took too long to get cigarettes. I lived deep inside Provenza, 30 seconds walk from OCIs, it will take her some time to get to a store to buy cigarettes. Because I had so many 18-year-olds to choose from every night while I was in Medellin, I was very picky. I told a smoking hot 19-year-old (whom I have been fucking since she was 18) to fuck off because she took an extra 10 minutes to get her cigarettes. She would do a TLN for 300 K (pesos, roughly 100 dollars) and bring over 5 grams of tussi for 200 k pesos (she will snore 4 out of the 5 grams for sure, but I love a tussi infused Fxxx -- I can disclose her real name, but it starts with an F). Man, talk about regret, my fucking dinner tonight costed 115 dollars! In my current situation, I'm willing to pay 1000 dollars for a night with a 19-year-old like Fxxxx in San Francisco, too bad it will cost me close to 10,000 dollars here, which is beyond my budget.

Sincerely, bro, cherish what you have right now, from a by standard's perspective, you are extremely fortunate. This fucking lockdown made me regret many things I have done while I was in Medellin, you don't want to end up with similar regrets one day.

More importantly, Please keep fucking them paisas for all of us.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2469476]A girl from a pueblo on the outskirts, really good looking light skinned strawberry blonde, asked about coming over today. I was trying to get her over last night. She quoted me 900k. I told here we're not even close, and that was the second-highest number I've heard in Medellin. It's not, but at the time, I was only thinking of this trip. I got her down to 400k + taxis (I offered 400k for TLN no rules). I doubt I'll take her up on anything, but she does have a very unique look. Actually, she said taxis are 90k each way, so I'm definitely not going to pay 180k for transportation, when I can have Pinky & Wifey, together, for less than that.[/QUOTE]Much love and respect and always enjoy reading your experiences but if any chica in Medellin would throw out a cost of 900 mil I would not waste even a second on them, no negotiating, no response other than a thanks but no thanks and move on.

And she is from a pueblo, WTF! Who teaches them that gringos would pay even half this amount for a TLN? Someone really has spoiled this ***** and it will be an uphill battle for every grigo that follows.

Just my take and reaction. Good thing and thank you for moving on and not playing or I should say paying into this shit.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2469484]On the dying grandma, sick cat subject.

There was 1 girl who I regularly sent money to. Started out as 200 k about every 6 weeks. Eventually it had grown to 400 k per month. Then once the quarantine hit, she started asking for more. Around the first week of June she kept pushing her upcoming birthday, so I sent some extra. Just before her birthday I sent 700 k, more than enough for her birthday and groceries. She acted offended and immediately got blocked. Haven't talked to her since.

Now the funny part. She was always laying the "te amo" crap on me and telling me that she was saving herself for me. No dates, no other guys. Yeah right. Two weeks after I blocked her, her mother messages me to tell me she is pregnant.[/QUOTE]This "te amo" crap your relating hit a nerve with me, so true.

Just in the past 2 years 2 of whom I would have considered as decent paisa chicas whom both I had befriended and been with a number of times well both of them would swear on a room filled stack of bibles of their undeniable and everlasting love and devotion to me, they are mine and mine only (right, hehehehe) anyway both got pregnant from either their barrio ladrones or ex-boyfriends and they can't understand why I can't overlook their "situation" and forgive them and continue on like it was before.

You can't make this shit up. They expect me to be responsible for their "situation" and "help them out". Ah no thanks!

They are all putas, don't kid yourself if you think anything otherwise.

The Tall Man.

Just keeping things real and on topic for the Botero and the Vera centro lovers.

With total lock-down imminent from Friday through midnight Sunday (3 days) in Medellin (was 4 days last weekend) wanted to see what was out in the plaza and surrounding areas of centro so spent about 4 hours with boots on the ground yesterday Thursday July 23rd.

My wing man was able to join me a few hours into my afternoon centro visit and when he did we made a number of walking tours around the area, got some new contact numbers and eventually found 2 new girls that neither one of us had session-ed with before.

After some brief negotiations we settled in on a price and took them both to my wing mans apartment outside of Medellin. Had a mini party with some drinks, food, snacks, dancing, listening to music and just enjoying the company of a couple of great friendly attitude laden chicas.

After a few hours of conversation and music we paired off and what a surprise and treat when I experienced my chicas lactating breast milk into my mouth, a treat indeed as just to suck on those large milk filled fun bags was worth the price of admission, hehehehehe.

I always keep my expectations in check when I play with a new girl and let me say that I was blown away, my girl was off the charts with her sexuality and passion, she loves dick and I was the chosen one to smash her pussy every which way, after about 45 minutes I wanted to nut in her mouth which she welcomed, a real trooper which I will repeat.

The agreed upon price of 120 mil + taxi for 3 hours plus was paid and my girl was worth every peso of it. You just never know.

Now today through Monday it will be like a ghost town in centro but I for one am satisfied that we were able to get out yesterday.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469585] I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?[/QUOTE]My essential purpose to go to Mexico was to shack up with a Chica and bang the krap out of her in a luxury hotel Suite with a Jacuzzi and room service.

As far as crossing the border it was a joke, the only question they asked was how many days are you staying, and then a temperature check. However they have recently been requiring foreigners to pay approximately $ 20 USD for a visa which is good for multiple crossings over a six month period. This way the Mexican Government is making some money. As far as your question, I have the business card of a dentist in Tijuana I know. I was going to tell them I have a dental appointment to get a crown if asked. The most shocking part upon crossing the border though was that there was no signage before entering Mexico saying that travel was only limited to "essential travel", and you know what that means in my book.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469585]I'm speculating Medellin will apply similar measures. I looked up the requirement for US citizen travel to Canada; it says that we can travel to Canada for essential purposes only. (https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...xemptions.html). I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?[/QUOTE]Entry ban usually ban origin, not nationality. I think Costa Rica is missing some requirements. Usually there will be a condition that the incoming visitors can't be in some countries 14 days before. Maybe they think the test will cover it but then why ban visitors from US? The other issue is that they do not require a test after arrival. This presents a gap which will be a problem.

I think Colombia must have thought the virus would be gone by September so they allow international flight without conditions. Now they know the virus won't go away so the old plan would need to be revised.

If they want to do it right, they need to be able to monitor incoming visitors after arrival and during quarantine. Nothing like that are in place. If they could track and control people movement like that, Medellin would have zero case now. The other issue with quarantine is there may not be enough facilities for quarantine purpose. They will need to prioritize and the limit the number of visitors in that case.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469597]

I'm willing to pay 1000 dollars for a night with a 19-year-old like Fxxxx in San Francisco, too bad it will cost me close to 10,000 dollars here, which is beyond my budget.
[/QUOTE]100% you can get some gorgeous young chicks on SA to smash for $1000 a night in SF. Even $500 a night, ask me how I know. LOL.

I try to avoid saying shit on here that will lead to bad blood. This is why I stay away from "send me money" threads. The other reason I keep it brief on this subject is all but the most inexperienced newbies know they have nothing to gain by doing it, so there is no point beating a dead horse. Also, I am a strong believer that we have the right to spend our money however we choose that does not infringe on anyone's dignity or human rights. I can't hold my tongue however when I read illogical rationalizations and excuses. We need to be honest with ourselves or we risk going over to the dark side of romance scams and other weirdness.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2469645]Much love and respect and always enjoy reading your experiences but if any chica in Medellin would throw out a cost of 900 mil I would not waste even a second on them, no negotiating, no response other than a thanks but no thanks and move on.

And she is from a pueblo, WTF! Who teaches them that gringos would pay even half this amount for a TLN? Someone really has spoiled this ***** and it will be an uphill battle for every grigo that follows.

Just my take and reaction. Good thing and thank you for moving on and not playing or I should say paying into this shit.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2469709]Entry ban usually ban origin, not nationality. I think Costa Rica is missing some requirements. Usually there will be a condition that the incoming visitors can't be in some countries 14 days before. Maybe they think the test will cover it but then why ban visitors from US? The other issue is that they do not require a test after arrival. This presents a gap which will be a problem.

I think Colombia must have thought the virus would be gone by September so they allow international flight without conditions. Now they know the virus won't go away so the old plan would need to be revised.

If they want to do it right, they need to be able to monitor incoming visitors after arrival and during quarantine. Nothing like that are in place. If they could track and control people movement like that, Medellin would have zero case now. The other issue with quarantine is there may not be enough facilities for quarantine purpose. They will need to prioritize and the limit the number of visitors in that case.[/QUOTE]The test must be within 48 hours of entry to Costa Rica. There is a gap, yes, but minimal. They make you fill out some forms and declarations. Who knows what those are, but probably at least a recent history of travel. And the ban is based on passport, nationality, not where the flight originated. As far as tracking and monitoring. I don't know. But Costa Rica is a basket case of increasing infections right now. Hence they require health insurance and extended stay insurance.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2469725]And the ban is based on passport, nationality, not where the flight originated. As far as tracking and monitoring. I don't know. But Costa Rica is a basket case of increasing infections right now. Hence they require health insurance and extended stay insurance.[/QUOTE]Does ban nationality makes sense to you? I don't know about Costa Rica. The other countries I know only ban flight origin.

For example, here it says it will allow flights originated from Canada. It does not mention passport.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2469725]Tambin se autorizan viajes originados en el Reino Unido y Canad en los prximos meses.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2469711]100% you can get some gorgeous young chicks on SA to smash for $1000 a night in SF. Even $500 a night, ask me how I know. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:

Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.

10 k a night is definitely within the right range if I want a Medellin like experience. Furthermore, I'm talking about paying for one girl only, in Medellin I rarely have one girl at a time, I do about 5-6 threesome and 2 foursomes a week, and it costs less than half of one night in San Francisco for a smoking-hot 21 year old with no rules.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469597]Bro,

Sincerely, bro, cherish what you have right now, from a by standard's perspective, you are extremely fortunate. This fucking lockdown made me regret many things I have done while I was in Medellin, you don't want to end up with similar regrets one day.

More importantly, Please keep fucking them paisas for all of us.[/QUOTE]I got lucky. I ended up in Medellin for what was, by far, my longest trip (one month) in November. Then, I was itching to come back so bad. I don't know if I had a premonition or what, but when the virus talk started, I booked a flight. Things were changing and shutting down, right as I was supposed to leave. 4.5 months later, and I will never forget (ok, I've already forgotten about 50%) my time here. I genuinely think I will live here, some day. That is, unless a new Medellin comes about, and it has a beach.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2469645]Much love and respect and always enjoy reading your experiences but if any chica in Medellin would throw out a cost of 900 mil I would not waste even a second on them, no negotiating, no response other than a thanks but no thanks and move on.

And she is from a pueblo, WTF! Who teaches them that gringos would pay even half this amount for a TLN? Someone really has spoiled this ***** and it will be an uphill battle for every grigo that follows.

Just my take and reaction. Good thing and thank you for moving on and not playing or I should say paying into this shit.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I played along because I didn't have anything lined up, but I wouldn't have paid 400, let alone + 180 for taxis. I was just laughing as I was reading your post, because I had already forgot about her, and your post reminded me she sent me a video on WhatsApp about an hour ago, as I was banging the coin slot. I just watched it. Some sexy dancing in a bikini. Not going to cut it, but if any of you video guys sitting at home want her contact, PM me.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2469721]I try to avoid saying shit on here that will lead to bad blood. This is why I stay away from "send me money" threads. The other reason I keep it brief on this subject is all but the most inexperienced newbies know they have nothing to gain by doing it, so there is no point beating a dead horse. Also, I am a strong believer that we have the right to spend our money however we choose that does not infringe on anyone's dignity or human rights. I can't hold my tongue however when I read illogical rationalizations and excuses. We need to be honest with ourselves or we risk going over to the dark side of romance scams and other weirdness.[/QUOTE]I don't know if you clicked reply on the wrong post, but I didn't understand how this related. Valid point, nonetheless.

Last night, SA 18 yo, cute face, on-time, petite. Her photos in SA are all my type. She sent new photos, so it wasn't a surprise that her hair was pinkish-blonde. It would appear to me that a lot of Paisas got bored during quarantine and either gave themselves bangs, or dyed their hair some strange color. I made dinner. She didn't drink. So, I stuck to Ron Zacapa. Lots of laughing. A great genuine connection. She isn't a stunner, but a typical cute 18 yo girl with a killer personality and a closet freak! She didn't bring a bikini. So, it was game on once we got in the jacuzzi. I had her standing over me as I was sitting on the bench seat, and I ate her out before we ever shared a kiss. She asked for a condom and I said they're downstairs. So, no condom. Standard routine, but you would have never ever ever expected this girl to be a nympho, based on appearance or conversation. We had round two later, and she stayed for hours. We had plenty of inside jokes by the time she left. She was extremely helpful with my Spanish, which was refreshing. She swallowed for round 2. All-in-all, a one-way Uber fee of 13.200 COP. Not sure if I'll repeat, but I think it's likely. She's one of those girls that's perfect for a mid-week relaxing night.

I was planning on Pinky coming over, tonight. But, the newly-named Coin Slot, from Thursday, wanted to come over. I told Pink tomorrow, and Coin Slot said 30mins to get ready. The fucking Uber took 1h15m to get her here, and she lives less than 2 miles away. Chalk up another transportation nightmare story. So, the plan is 200 for a few hours, but her mom wants her home by 6p. She comes over in a body suit and overcoat, no panties, no bra. I give her some chips, she says nothing to drink, but I convince her to have a Smirnoff Ice. Jacuzzi, it's pouring rain. Another no bikini episode. She didn't want to borrow the one the bailarina left. She's so fucking tight we can't get it in, in the jacuzzi, and she doesn't want to be propped up because she thinks everyone is watching from the surrounding buildings. We head inside for round 1. I'm so torn between how much I enjoy how tight she is, fucking her, and her squirming away, and on the flip side, her discomfort. Todo sin condon. Round 2 is downstairs in my bed. We start by me going down on her, and she tells me just how she likes it. As if I was feeding on a tit. I banged her for a while. Her mom called 4-5 times, as 6p was approaching. I was sweating and we finally gave up. I could tell she was distracted, and I couldn't give her a good enough pounding to pop, without feeling bad. Gave her 240 and I'm sure we'll repeat. She showed me pictures of her hot 21yo sister who apparently gives Spanish lessons. I might look into that.

So, I think Pinky tomorrow, and maybe I'll catch up on SA over the next couple days, to arrange something for Sunday. Anyone experiencing any hesitation to travel by the chicas? Today's was nervous. I told her the police don't want to be out standing in the rain giving fines. She made it back and forth, no problem.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2469729]Does ban nationality makes sense to you? I don't know about Costa Rica. The other countries I know only ban flight origin.

For example, here it says it will allow flights originated from Canada. It does not mention passport.[/QUOTE]May be right. I'm not sure. But it makes no sense to allow Americans to fly into Toronto, for example, and then on to Costa Rica.

And the current flights available are all US airlines flying from the US. Only Americans aren't allowed to fly to Costa Rica on them. So I guess I assumed that this would be the same sort of deal.

The only flights I can get from Canada right now are connections through the US. So yes, my flight originates in Canada. But I change planes in the US.

Anyway. Needs more clarification for sure. As far as I can find there are nor will be any direct flights from Canada to CR any time soon.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2469760]May be right. I'm not sure. But it makes no sense to allow Americans to fly into Toronto, for example, and then on to Costa Rica.

And the current flights available are all US airlines flying from the US. Only Americans aren't allowed to fly to Costa Rica on them. So I guess I assumed that this would be the same sort of deal.

The only flights I can get from Canada right now are connections through the US. So yes, my flight originates in Canada. But I change planes in the US.

Anyway. Needs more clarification for sure. As far as I can find there are nor will be any direct flights from Canada to CR any time soon.[/QUOTE]I went and looked again. Still not totally clear. All of the news prior to the announcement focused on the nationalities of people that would be allowed in. I. e. European, British, Canadian.

But the actual announcement seemed to focus more on flights. Which is odd, since the current commercial flights are US companies flying in with people that are allowed to enter. Costa Rican citizens, diplomats, etc.

My interpretation of all of it is that citizens of those countries can fly in on whatever flights are available, and will be allowed into the country providing they follow the rules as laid out. And that eventually there will be direct flights from those places. And that citizens of countries not allowed in will not be allowed to board those planes, whether they originate in the US, or wherever (same as is currently the case).

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to say Hi and that I have RTFF (went back 600 pages) took me a few weeks but hate to ask annoying questions that can be found by reading. I do have a few posts on the Argentina Private forum but was looking to switching gears to Colombia. Looking forward to getting to Colombia when all international travel is permitted but realize that it might not be until 2021. Any way, just saying Hi and hope everyone is staying safe and hope I can share some experiences when I get there, I'm sure I'll have questions but this is enough for an intro post.

Lumi.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469731]I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:

Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.

10 k a night is definitely within the right range if I want a Medellin like experience. Furthermore, I'm talking about paying for one girl only, in Medellin I rarely have one girl at a time, I do about 5-6 threesome and 2 foursomes a week, and it costs less than half of one night in San Francisco for a smoking-hot 21 year old with no rules.[/QUOTE]Yes, I lived there for 5 years recently. You're quoting agency rates. Go on seeking arrangement and find independent chicks. I'm assuring you that you can get an all night situation with a college chick for $500, and probably less as you repeat.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2469763]My interpretation of all of it is that citizens of those countries can fly in on whatever flights are available, and will be allowed into the country providing they follow the rules as laid out. And that eventually there will be direct flights from those places. And that citizens of countries not allowed in will not be allowed to board those planes, whether they originate in the US, or wherever (same as is currently the case).[/QUOTE]It makes very little sense to ban US citizens who are living in Canada from boarding the plane, on the other hand, if the intent is to ban people who are living in the US, then what prevents a Canadian, who has been living in the US for the entire duration of covid, to go in.

I think banning flights from the US and require a covid test before boarding the plane make the most sense. Not all Americans who are sick want to fly to Canada so they can go to Costa Rica or Medellin to infect the people there.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2469777]Yes, I lived there for 5 years recently. You're quoting agency rates. Go on seeking arrangement and find independent chicks. I'm assuring you that you can get an all night situation with a college chick for $500, and probably less as you repeat.[/QUOTE]I also live in the Bay Area, and I have been mongering there for the past 30 years. I agree with you that one can find poon at reasonable rate, if one takes the time to look for it. I had FS with a chick at O'farrell Theater, for $200, in the early 2000. She was young and eye candy.

[QUOTE=AdventureSeekr;2469777]Yes, I lived there for 5 years recently. You're quoting agency rates. Go on seeking arrangement and find independent chicks. I'm assuring you that you can get an all night situation with a college chick for $500, and probably less as you repeat.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, I will give SA a try. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2469784]I also live in the Bay Area, and I have been mongering there for the past 30 years. I agree with you that one can find poon at reasonable rate, if one takes the time to look for it. I had FS with a chick at O'farrell Theater, for $200, in the early 2000. She was young and eye candy.[/QUOTE]Ofarrel use to be my favorite place when I was in my early 20's, it was 2006-7. I use to go there every Thursday for a CBJ for 200 dollars from a super tall blonde, in those small damn rooms, a FS will not be enjoyable for me. A typical FS there is fully covered and you are out of there in less than 40 minutes. Once I discovered the FKKs in Europe, Brazil and Thailand, I never went back there again. For me, spending 200 dollars for a fully covered 30 minute FS with an eye candy who is overt 21, is no where nearly to anything I can find in Medellin.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469783]It makes very little sense to ban US citizens who are living in Canada from boarding the plane, on the other hand, if the intent is to ban people who are living in the US, then what prevents a Canadian, who has been living in the US for the entire duration of covid, to go in.

I think banning flights from the US and require a covid test before boarding the plane make the most sense. Not all Americans who are sick want to fly to Canada so they can go to Costa Rica or Medellin to infect the people there.[/QUOTE]You can take a look at the first paragraph of "Entry to Hong Kong". This is how Asian countries are implementing it. If you are in a low risk country, it is easier for you to move around between countries. Passport is only significant when you are a citizen and they must allow you in so some countries wave the
test requirement.

[URL]https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong/entry-requirements[/URL]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469585]Thanks for the emotional support! We all belong to this specific era of Medellin; its beauty is unique to our time. The only upside I can see from this quarantine is that it made me appreciate what I had in Medellin more than before.

Costa Rica just announced it would open for international travelers on 8/1 but restricted to the EU, UK, and Canada, passengers must show a negative COVID test result within 48 hours before boarding the plane. ([URL]https://www.ministeriodesalud.go.cr/index.php/centro-de-prensa/noticias/741-noticias-2020/1813-apertura-de-vuelos-comerciales-al-pais-inicia-el-01-de-agosto-con-trayectos-limitados-desde-europa[/URL]) The specific language they used did not mention passports; as long as the flight is originated from Canada, they will let you in. I'm speculating Medellin will apply similar measures. I looked up the requirement for US citizen travel to Canada; it says that we can travel to Canada for essential purposes only. ([URL]https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/coronavirus-covid19/travel-restrictions-exemptions.html[/URL]). I remember reading one of your posts about going to Mexico for the essential purpose of seeing a "dentist," did you have to present any official documentation for the "dentist" visit?[/QUOTE]I cross the border into and out of Canada twice each week. Except for all the other trucks, almost nobody is crossing. Yesterday was the first time I've seen more than 1 car crossing and I saw 7. Normally entering Canada is quick and painless, but the cars were taking 5 minutes and up to clear the booth.

My paperwork makes it simple for me. I'm crossing on essential business. I'm assuming you would need something official to get across. Canada is pretty laid-back, but they aren't quite as open as Mexico.

Does anyone have their visa? I'm wondering if living there is worth the tax hit. Thanks!

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2469877]Does anyone have their visa? I'm wondering if living there is worth the tax hit. Thanks![/QUOTE]The answer to your question depends on your income, technically anyone with a visa who is in Colombia more than six months a year is considered a "tax resident" and must file with DIAN which is Colombia's IRS. Whether you will owe taxes seems to change from time to time and they have a weird formula based on your personal wealth and what is considered in the calculation. I believe retirement accounts such as 401 K's, pensions, etc are not used in the equation. At the end of the day, if you have a good accountant you will pay the difference between what you would of paid in Colombia versus what you actually paid in the USA. So for guys living on a pension with most of their monies in retirement accounts they might not be paying much of anything. Again, you need a good Colombian accountant, and the filing is a joke in that only a one page form is submitted with no back-up and although DIAN and the USA have what I believe is a tax treaty, DIAN is limited in how much information they can actually verify when a foreigner files a tax return in Colombia. And they are very happy when a foreigner pays taxes to them!

Every persons situation is different, and for a person contemplating living in Medellin, they should get with an accountant. Also, DIAN is becoming more and more sophisticated, and there are a lot of foreigners living in Medellin who do not file a tax return when required to, and may have issues in the future renewing their visas.

Perhaps some of the other half dozen members who live in Colombia can better explain and correct what I have said. Again you need to get with a Colombian accountant on this because everybody's situation is different.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469783]It makes very little sense to ban US citizens who are living in Canada from boarding the plane, on the other hand, if the intent is to ban people who are living in the US, then what prevents a Canadian, who has been living in the US for the entire duration of covid, to go in.

I think banning flights from the US and require a covid test before boarding the plane make the most sense. Not all Americans who are sick want to fly to Canada so they can go to Costa Rica or Medellin to infect the people there.[/QUOTE]All the statements prior to Friday made by officials in Costa Rica (as reported in the various news outlets) were about citizens from certain countries being allowed in. I'm assuming that would be citizens and legal residents. Then, when the announcement was made it talked about flights. There are no direct flights from Canada at the moment so this is meaningless in that sense (as far as Canada or Canadians).

All in all I think the intent is about allowing or not allowing people from various countries come in. Whether I like it or not. But I agree, there needs to be a much clearer statement from the CR authorities.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469785]Sounds good, I will give SA a try. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You'll want this for your next trip to Medellin. Set your location to Medellin. I have been killing it with SA, this trip, and I never used it on my prior trips, aside from Nov / Dec. I believe I have Premium, and there is a higher level. I don't remember why I have Premium, compared to a standard account. There must be some added features that are worth the payment. Anyway, I have a Search parameter set up to filter my types. I also enjoy using the Search function set to Newest, to try to find some new hotties that might be dipping their toes into this new world, at the ripe age of 18-19. Maybe get them before they have 75 k Instagram followers and a new price point.

I've never used it in the US, so I can't comment on that. I have a fairly private photo, and then normal photos which you can approve access to.

Just stumbled across this.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/nacional/puede-empezar-a-hacer-planes-revelan-a-partir-de-cuando-podrian-volver-los-vuelos-internacionales/1090753/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2469877]Does anyone have their visa? I'm wondering if living there is worth the tax hit. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have a Migrant Visa. You need to see an accountant about your particular situation if you are a tax resident.

Looks like the earliest date for tourism is November. We'll see how that goes.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/nacional/puede-empezar-a-hacer-planes-revelan-a-partir-de-cuando-podrian-volver-los-vuelos-internacionales/1090753/?fbclid=IwAR0L0gficro14gnbbYQ1su3ute0_r2HqNPFY39cmy4mqo7jrbQi8isHQSKo[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2469915]Looks like the earliest date for tourism is November. We'll see how that goes.

[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/nacional/puede-empezar-a-hacer-planes-revelan-a-partir-de-cuando-podrian-volver-los-vuelos-internacionales/1090753/?fbclid=IwAR0L0gficro14gnbbYQ1su3ute0_r2HqNPFY39cmy4mqo7jrbQi8isHQSKo[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting this timely information. How official is this source? It says: "Septiembre 2020: ejecución planes piloto de corredores sanitarios seguros y apertura de aviación general y de negocios" it loosely translate to: " September 2020: execution of pilot plans for safe sanitary corridors and opening of general and business aviation" I wonder what does general and business aviation mean?

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469931]Thanks for posting this timely information. How official is this source? It says: "Septiembre 2020: ejecucin planes piloto de corredores sanitarios seguros y apertura de aviacin general y de negocios" it loosely translate to: " September 2020: execution of pilot plans for safe sanitary corridors and opening of general and business aviation" I wonder what does general and business aviation mean?[/QUOTE]It is all conjecture at this point. Keep in mind, Medellin is currently under a strict quarantine on the weekends and alcohol sales are limited. The Covid peak is projected to be in August. Who knows how long the State of Emergency / Quarantine will actually last?

Domestic air travel is just now being piloted. If they allow outsiders in during September, it would likely be Colombians and certain visa holders. Tourist visas aren't expected to be available until at least November. November seems like the best case scenario at this point. I can't get into speculation about freight or any other type of air travel that may occur in September.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469931]Thanks for posting this timely information. How official is this source? It says: "Septiembre 2020: ejecucin planes piloto de corredores sanitarios seguros y apertura de aviacin general y de negocios" it loosely translate to: " September 2020: execution of pilot plans for safe sanitary corridors and opening of general and business aviation" I wonder what does general and business aviation mean?[/QUOTE]In response to your question, per one official definition, "General Aviation is all civilian flying except Scheduled passenger airline service" and, as such, would seem to include business flights as well. Perhaps an opening here for the monger well-heeled (and horny) enough to spring for a private charter flight from abroad back to the Promised (Pussy) Land (after what seems to have been 40 biblical years in the desert).

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2469892]All the statements prior to Friday made by officials in Costa Rica (as reported in the various news outlets) were about citizens from certain countries being allowed in. I'm assuming that would be citizens and legal residents. Then, when the announcement was made it talked about flights. There are no direct flights from Canada at the moment so this is meaningless in that sense (as far as Canada or Canadians).

All in all I think the intent is about allowing or not allowing people from various countries come in. Whether I like it or not. But I agree, there needs to be a much clearer statement from the CR authorities.[/QUOTE]This link has no ambiguity. This is pretty much the standard way to set restriction, same thing in the HK link I posted earlier. There is no ban that I have read is based solely on nationality unless I misunderstand the meaning.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-other-countries.html[/URL]

All the articles I have read, including the one in Spanish posted earlier have not mentioned passport or nationality requirement. Most of them say "tourists from" or something similar.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-costa-rica/costa-rica-to-reopen-two-airports-to-tourists-idUSKCN24P00C[/URL]

[URL]https://ticotimes.net/2020/07/23/costa-rica-reopening-for-tourists-from-eu-uk-and-canada[/URL]

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469731]I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:

Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.

10 k a night is definitely within the right range if I want a Medellin like experience. Furthermore, I'm talking about paying for one girl only, in Medellin I rarely have one girl at a time, I do about 5-6 threesome and 2 foursomes a week, and it costs less than half of one night in San Francisco for a smoking-hot 21 year old with no rules.[/QUOTE]My experience about price is similar to yours. One can get fresh college girls for as low as $250/ HR when backpage and other review sites were still available. The price will go up once the girl has some experience, and will eventually settle on $300 or $350. Some hot ones will double the price but it is not difficult to negotiate to reduce the price by $100 or so. During weekend one can even pick up street girls from out of town, some college girls too. The better quality ones charged almost the same amount. There were hotel/motel that were just like casas once you were aware of what's going on. I was so surprised once in Marriott that young prostitutes just running around in the lobby and going from room to room to chat with friends.

Based on my own SA experience, the standard rate is $500 per meet, you also pay for hotel if you need it, so it is not necessary cheaper. The length of the meet I think will depend on both parties and situation. It is cheaper if you make a monthly arrangement. There are a lot of scammers so it is going to take time.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2469895]You'll want this for your next trip to Medellin. Set your location to Medellin. I have been killing it with SA, this trip, and I never used it on my prior trips, aside from Nov / Dec. I believe I have Premium, and there is a higher level. I don't remember why I have Premium, compared to a standard account. There must be some added features that are worth the payment. Anyway, I have a Search parameter set up to filter my types. I also enjoy using the Search function set to Newest, to try to find some new hotties that might be dipping their toes into this new world, at the ripe age of 18-19. Maybe get them before they have 75 k Instagram followers and a new price point.
[/QUOTE]I am in a situation that is opposite to yours. There are many tourists and prostitutes who can't go back to their own countries at where I am now. They are stranded and need income. The SB price is reasonable but still not cheap. The prostitutes always start with a very high price but not much negotiation is needed before they drop their price to as low as 1/3 of the original price. Just today, one of them asked me for some money for food.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2469951]It is all conjecture at this point. Keep in mind, Medellin is currently under a strict quarantine on the weekends and alcohol sales are limited. The Covid peak is projected to be in August. Who knows how long the State of Emergency / Quarantine will actually last?

Domestic air travel is just now being piloted. If they allow outsiders in during September, it would likely be Colombians and certain visa holders. Tourist visas aren't expected to be available until at least November. November seems like the best case scenario at this point. I can't get into speculation about freight or any other type of air travel that may occur in September.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I have spoken to my lawyer in Medellin last months, he said the following about business visa. I'm quoting him verbatim:

1) The visa processes are currently on a halt due to COVID, the only way to request a Business Visa is if you were currently in Colombia / or when the embassies abroad re-open. 2) The international flights will be closed until August 31st (the government could change this), so even with a business visa, you will not be allowed to travel here. 3) The business visa is similar to the tourist visa in that you can only stay in Colombia for a maximum period of 180 continuous or discontinuous non-extendable days in each 365 days of visa use.

The lawyer mentioned he doesn't think it would be necessary for me to get a Business Visa. He said, in general, the process to get a business visa is fairly simple once the immigration services re-open. I'll call him on Monday to start the application process. It's likely a business visa holder can go in from Canada in September.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2469961]This link has no ambiguity. This is pretty much the standard way to set restriction, same thing in the HK link I posted earlier. There is no ban that I have read is based solely on nationality unless I misunderstand the meaning.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-other-countries.html[/URL]

All the articles I have read, including the one in Spanish posted earlier have not mentioned passport or nationality requirement. Most of them say "tourists from" or something similar.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-costa-rica/costa-rica-to-reopen-two-airports-to-tourists-idUSKCN24P00C[/URL]

[URL]https://ticotimes.net/2020/07/23/costa-rica-reopening-for-tourists-from-eu-uk-and-canada[/URL][/QUOTE]I believe the EU restrictions are based on country of residence. That being. Where you are a legal resident (citizen, landed immigrant, work visa holder, etc.) Canadians can go to Europe now, at least parts of it, while US residents cannot. In that case it has nothing to do with what flight you come in on. Either passport or document supporting residence.

When I flew out of Colombia there were a lot of people with boarding passes that were turned away at the gate as they did not have a Canadian or US passport or documents supporting Canadian or US residence. That was in March. So perhaps I'm assuming Costa Rica is basing it on country of residence. But I could be wrong. In which case Americans would have no problem going there by merely booking through Canada or Europe. But the 48 hour test result window will be a problem for everyone to hit if you have connecting flights, so this is probably a non issue.

The airlines will have it cleared up soon I would expect. They should have a warning if it is based on residence. Which they had in Colombia when I left, but a lot of people ignored it and booked online, got their boarding passes, and got turned away at the gate.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2469784]I also live in the Bay Area, and I have been mongering there for the past 30 years. I agree with you that one can find poon at reasonable rate, if one takes the time to look for it. I had FS with a chick at O'farrell Theater, for $200, in the early 2000. She was young and eye candy.[/QUOTE]That was 20 years ago. Prices haven't gone up?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2469895]You'll want this for your next trip to Medellin. Set your location to Medellin. I have been killing it with SA, this trip, and I never used it on my prior trips, aside from Nov / Dec. I believe I have Premium, and there is a higher level. I don't remember why I have Premium, compared to a standard account. There must be some added features that are worth the payment. Anyway, I have a Search parameter set up to filter my types. I also enjoy using the Search function set to Newest, to try to find some new hotties that might be dipping their toes into this new world, at the ripe age of 18-19. Maybe get them before they have 75 k Instagram followers and a new price point.

I've never used it in the US, so I can't comment on that. I have a fairly private photo, and then normal photos which you can approve access to.[/QUOTE]Great, thanks for the advice. I will sign up as soon as I finalize my plan to get back into Medellin. How reliable are the age of the girls on SA, in the case of Facebook, I have to do a lot of work to screen out girls who are using fake Ids. I would so pay for a service that can help me screen out under age girls.

[QUOTE=Luminous;2470018]That was 20 years ago. Prices haven't gone up?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I did not mean to imply that prices have held steady. Indeed, they have gone up along with prices in general.

However, there was an evolution. For example, in the early 2000's, Korean nationals were granted special status similar to Japanese nationals and EU nationals. Hence, a person with a Korean passport could enter the US without a visa and get a 90-day stay from the day they enter the US. Soon after, there were plane load after plane load of Korean WGs. I discovered them in 2008 and I have not attempted to look for a white girl ever since. The Asian WGs charge a lot less and are so much nicer. That allowed prices to plateau a bit for those who were satisfied with Asians.

As for white girls, I switched to FKKs in Germany, where a session used to cost 50 Euros for half an hour. This was in 2006 and the official cost of a session at the FKKs is still 50 Euros today. A lot of eye candy was lost as a result.

Because of Covid, I was looking at places and flights for 07 Feb 2021 to 16 Mar 2021 as I figured that would probably be realistic to get to MDE.

With the news of Possibly Nov 2020 for tourists I looked at 15 Nov 2020 to 14 Dec 2020 and the prices for the same flights and the same airbnb are higher for the 2020 trip as opposed to the 2021 trip. $825 mil COP more for flights and $687.5 mil COP more for the airbnb, and for a week less compared to a week more in 2021.

I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.

This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.

Any thoughts on the price differences for Nov-Dec2020 vs. Feb-Mar2021?

On a side note I am a paid member and was wondering how many posts I need to not be moderated. I know, wrong thread but it's the most active!

[blue] • A member for more than 6 months,

• A minimum of 25 reports in the forum.

• And not have any infraction.[/blue]

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2470010]I believe the EU restrictions are based on country of residence. That being. Where you are a legal resident (citizen, landed immigrant, work visa holder, etc.) Canadians can go to Europe now, at least parts of it, while US residents cannot. In that case it has nothing to do with what flight you come in on. Either passport or document supporting residence.[/QUOTE]I understand it is confusing and I am not here to argue. I only want to share what I know. I know US citizen can travel to Germany from other countries. I read their restrictions and it is similar to US restrictions. It specifically mentions it is not based on nationality.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2470087]I understand it is confusing and I am not here to argue. I only want to share what I know. I know US citizen can travel to Germany from other countries. I read their restrictions and it is similar to US restrictions. It specifically mentions it is not based on nationality.[/QUOTE]It's not based on nationality, some of my friends confirmed it by personal experience. If a country has any sense they will realize how unreasonable and ineffective it is to ban travelers base on their nationalities.

I don't know what effect to ratcheting up of the quarantine has had on the short time rooms and motels in El Centro. I know that Motel Ibiza and many of the other, more expensive motels are currently closed.

There are some Motels in San Antonio de Prado, which is located south of Itagui off the Autopista. At least one of them was open as of last Thursday and the rooms look pretty good, big jacuzzi, clean. Rooms were available by the hour, versus for 6 hours like Motel Ibiza and several others, so price should be pretty good.

If you're looking for a motel, that might be an option. Here are a few of the ones a quick search turned up:

Motel LOS Dos. [URL]Http://motellosdos.com.co[/URL].

Motel SolYLuna. [URL]https://m.facebook.com/solylunalaestrella/[/URL].

Motel Motivos. [URL]https://es-la.facebook.com/motelmotivos/[/URL].

Motel El Bosque. [URL]https://www.motelelbosque.com.co/[/URL].

Motel Aries. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/paquetesromanticosyocasioales/[/URL].

[QUOTE=SJobs;2469731]I have been mongering in Northern California for more than 15 years. The best deal and service I can get is the following:

Hourly rate 220-250 dollars for Asians, hourly rate 350-500 dollars for caucasians, hourly rate 300-400 to Brazilian and Latina. The rates I'm quoting are for acceptable girls, all in their mid 20's to early 30's. Younger and hotter girls with reliable reviews goes up to 500-800 per hour. One night will cost 2000-5000+. If you want extra service such as bareback+, it will cost more, some will insist on using a condom for everything, the Korean girls are a bit more lenient. If I rent a penthouse apartment in San Francisco, it cost about 7-10 k per months. (My one bedroom apartment cost 4200 a month). To give you a reference point, a 3-minute lap dance in a half decent strip joint with no touching costs 25-35 dollars.[/QUOTE]The whole reason I went into SA and the sugar baby thing is that I thought the sex was better when it was not a pure cash for sex transaction. I had some dummy on another forum go off on this and called all women on SA working girls. I am so tired of that. There is a huge distinction between a woman who will fuck anyone for cash and a woman who looks at money as part of the reason for sleeping with one individual man.

One guy said if there is any expectation of payment on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. Well then practically every woman I know then is a working girl including my mother. My mother told me that it is a man's responsibility to support his family, and I agree with that and always have. For guys spouting that working girl bullshit, I hope they have an 18 year old daughter wanting to marry a 25 year old unemployed druggie out of "love".

To me, it has always been a richer experience when it is not just sex for money, a component for sure, but not the whole thing.

The reason I brought that up is that I thought it was ridiculous to be paying women to sleep. The 2000 to 5000 dollar nightly prostitute rates bothered me as did spending hundreds of dollars taking a woman to dinner. I like the sugar baby concept of giving women a gift far more than paying her a wage. Besides the legal premise that gift giving is legal while paying a wage is not, there is also the self-esteem of the woman. No one wants to think of themselves as a working girl. Quite frankly, I don't think many women can hide that distinction so easily. Other people notice quite quickly if women are acting working girl like. People are constantly judging working girl like behavior especially with pretty women.

SJobs, I have noticed similar pricing structure to you but it is less in my area because I live in a place where living expenses are lower. The reason California is more expensive than other parts of the country IMO is because living expenses are so high. The question then becomes what is your time worth and can you achieve time flexibility to visit women other lower cost parts of the world so you do not have to pay the high California prices.

Recently, I have quit the SB thing in the USA. It was not the expense as much as the legal issues. The male sex drive has been too demonized in the USA, and that is what the crackdown on human trafficking is, a way for law enforcement to steal money from those in the P4P game. The legal situation has also IMO inflated P4P costs in the USA.

The irony about Colombia is that I found the women to be much LESS greedy than women in the USA It may be that the women are much less experienced but also I think that there is something to be said about just meeting an American man. The best experiences I had were when no price was mentioned. The most I paid for an evening in Colombia was $140, and the average was $100 with no by the hour crap.

For all I have knocked Covid, honestly, I have been taking more advantage of the disruption than anyone I know. Covid has allowed remote access to work more possible than ever before. While most people are scared of flying, I have taken advantage of cut rate prices and empty resorts in Mexico. Officially, you are supposed to travel to Mexico for essential purposes. In reality, no one asks you anything. I have been cementing relationships with the 10's I have met in Mexico City, and the traffic here is blissfully way down.

By getting myself a job with great time flexibility, I have been able to travel to Mexico often. I took a Mexican beauty to a resort where I paid half price and spent 3 days with her. The total I paid her was $600 for all three days.

I was at her place yesterday. The most upscale neighborhood in Mexico City is Polanco, and she lives there because it is safe. Quite frankly, it was refreshing to see this beauty be so happy with so little possessions and a tiny place. Thing is she is paying only $450 a month for her place. I have seen furnished places in almost as nice parts of town for $600, and I am thinking of moving her there and flying into Mexico City, only a 2 hour flight, to get my sexual needs met. She was excited at the idea. And this girl is so hot that when she was walking down the ramp to meet me in Cancun all the Mexican cab drivers were hooting and hollering at her.

Thing is that it is not just her. I have three others I am working on. I may do this one and another woman and with the others just do PPM action. There are a ton of hot women here from Venezuela and Colombia, and there is a smattering of Europeans as well. One Vennie I met has done bikini modeling all over the Americas. She is a good actress to boot. She is a 10 in terms of looks, personality, and performance.

I am not sure this will last. All the women I met lost their jobs due to Covid. Anyway, I think the notion of paying $2000 to $5000 a night now is batshit crazy. I am hoping once Colombia opens up that I will be able to settle on the best women there. I can keep Colombia for 5 to 7 day adventures and Mexico for weekend excursions. From a pussy point of view, although Colombia is off limits, Covid for me has been a godsend.

Sunday July 26,2020.

I have been having $100 mil 3 some every day for the 2 -3 weeks. Trust me, the Medellin that you may have known before March 15,2020 is not the same Medellin that it is today. People are starving, businesses are suffering and Bogota has stated that it's healthcare. I cannot tell you the benefit of having a list of girls that you want to bang. Everyone knows that my girls of choice usually come from Centro, Parque Botero or Parque Berrios.

Maybe there are BM's who are not ready to admit it, but the Colombian economy is going down the drain and going down the drain rapidly. I have given up hope of leaving Colombia in September, so I began to look for an apartment for the long haul. Many agencies told me that I could not rent an apartment without a cedula extranjero, so I had kind of given up hope and decided that I would stay where I was for the remainder of the time in Colombia.

My girlfriend finally got a call from an apartment complex and I had already viewed many apartments and was only set up for failure when they found out that I was a gringo and she was from Venezuela. Well we found an apartment, a brand new apartment in Buenos Aires with 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, living room and sitting room for an incredible price. After looking over the paperwork once we viewed the apartment, the deal was a no brainer. So now I am prepared to be here in Medellin at least until August of 2021. (Apartment is unfurnished, but with the price of furniture and other items, each month I will buy a set of furniture piece by piece). My apartment came with utilities, cable and WiFi included for the year, that was one of my demands.

Girls are calling everyday trying to get me to have a date with them and no one has asked for more than $50 mil. I can tell you from the reports and things that I have seen with my own eyes, this Pandemic is not going to let up. I have gone from paying $150 mil per date down to nearly $40 mil per date.

Clearly no one on the board is addressing the fact that there are no new clients coming in or going out, the situation is this, you must find a way to earn a date with the clients who are here or you starve and clearly many of them are starving. As the devil's advocate, let me say this, you also must be extremely careful when dating any of these girls during these times as desperate times cause for desperate measures. I stick to the girls who have not tried to rob me and the ones who give great performances. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2470183]So now I am prepared to be here in Medellin at least until August of 2021. I stick to the girls who have not tried to rob me and the ones who give great performances. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]

Regal idea seeing the girls that don't rob you, PN. On a serious note, can you elaborate on your dates/plan, as it pertains to visa/permit, etc. ? Are you planning to apply for an extension? Do you have a visa? Thanks!

Pinky came over last night. Her hair is all natural, now. Body as good as always. We brought a tv up to the jacuzzi and were in there for hours upon hours. I must have had 14 Aguila Lights. Only one pop, but it was a good one. Got her Ubers each way, maybe 25 k total. She stayed the night. We discussed her moving in, as she's living in a dorm setup, with a 5-bedroom place that is only occupied by her and her brother. Her brother is always with his girlfriend, and she doesn't have money for rent. She's sweet, and fun, and a bit more mature than wifey. Also, she's hotter. I love her body. She was showing her T&A to my buddies on video chat, all night. We'll see. I'm not 100% committed to the idea, but it could work for both of us. She's also open to threesomes. Oh, on that note, I also received a WhatsApp message from the Bailarina. BEBE. She was asking if she could "rent" my extra room. I asked her why she thought I would want that, and why I get out of it. I explained there's no way I would expect her to pay half the rent, so why would I want to have to tip toe through her room to go workout, to go enjoy some fresh air, to use the jacuzzi, etc. She's one of those addicted to social media types, and I haven't had her one-on-one, so I don't even know about the chemistry. I think Pinky would genuinely be very thankful and gracious for my hospitality.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2470180]The whole reason I went into SA and the sugar baby thing is that I thought the sex was better when it was not a pure cash for sex transaction. I had some dummy on another forum go off on this and called all women on SA working girls. I am so tired of that. There is a huge distinction between a woman who will fuck anyone for cash and a woman who looks at money as part of the reason for sleeping with one individual man.

One guy said if there is any expectation of payment on the part of the woman, she is a working girl. Well then practically every woman I know then is a working girl including my mother. My mother told me that it is a man's responsibility to support his family, and I agree with that and always have. For guys spouting that working girl bullshit, I hope they have an 18 year old daughter wanting to marry a 25 year old unemployed druggie out of "love".

To me, it has always been a richer experience when it is not just sex for money, a component for sure, but not the whole thing.

The reason I brought that up is that I thought it was ridiculous to be paying women to sleep. The 2000 to 5000 dollar nightly prostitute rates bothered me as did spending hundreds of dollars taking a woman to dinner. I like the sugar baby concept of giving women a gift far more than paying her a wage. Besides the legal premise that gift giving is legal while paying a wage is not, there is also the self-esteem of the woman. No one wants to think of themselves as a working girl. Quite frankly, I don't think many women can hide that distinction so easily. Other people notice quite quickly if women are acting working girl like. People are constantly judging working girl like behavior especially with pretty women..[/QUOTE]What website did you use to meet the 10/10 Mexicans?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470175]I don't know what effect to ratcheting up of the quarantine has had on the short time rooms and motels in El Centro. I know that Motel Ibiza and many of the other, more expensive motels are currently closed.

There are some Motels in San Antonio de Prado, which is located south of Itagui off the Autopista. At least one of them was open as of last Thursday and the rooms look pretty good, big jacuzzi, clean. Rooms were available by the hour, versus for 6 hours like Motel Ibiza and several others, so price should be pretty good.

If you're looking for a motel, that might be an option. Here are a few of the ones a quick search turned up:

Motel LOS Dos. [URL]Http://motellosdos.com.co[/URL].

Motel SolYLuna. [URL]https://m.facebook.com/solylunalaestrella/[/URL].

Motel Motivos. [URL]https://es-la.facebook.com/motelmotivos/[/URL].

Motel El Bosque. [URL]https://www.motelelbosque.com.co/[/URL].

Motel Aries. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/paquetesromanticosyocasioales/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thank you. I am very overdue for a 3-on-1 or 4-on1 in a jacuzzi room. Listo!

[QUOTE=Luminus;2470049]
This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.
[/QUOTE]I would get in when I could and not worry about the price.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2470049]

I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.
[/QUOTE]There is another effect of this is that I personally just ignore it. You should list the actual price so people can help you better. If you own an Airbnb, and it is empty next week, what would you do vs it is empty 2 months from now.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2470051]On a side note I am a paid member and was wondering how many posts I need to not be moderated. I know, wrong thread but it's the most active!

[blue] A member for more than 6 months,

A minimum of 25 reports in the forum.

And not have any infraction.[/blue][/QUOTE]I think it is when you become a senior member.

Thanks for the great reports PN, SlapShot, etc. We are living vicariously through you.

For those in MDE right now, how would you compare the scene in this recent Bogota SW'er video to what's happening in MDE?

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gVVeoMjEkCA[/URL]

I see a lot less auto traffic in the video for example, and am trying to figure out if that is the case in MDE also.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2470049]Because of Covid, I was looking at places and flights for 07 Feb 2021 to 16 Mar 2021 as I figured that would probably be realistic to get to MDE.

With the news of Possibly Nov 2020 for tourists I looked at 15 Nov 2020 to 14 Dec 2020 and the prices for the same flights and the same airbnb are higher for the 2020 trip as opposed to the 2021 trip. $825 mil COP more for flights and $687.5 mil COP more for the airbnb, and for a week less compared to a week more in 2021.

I prefer the monetary units be in COP so that everyone from all countries can be on the same page, not everyone here is from the USA.

This cuts into my monger budget! Although I may not be as cheap as Blakman was (hope he returns with more stories) I don't have the means of Sjobs and like to hunt for "Cheapie Charlie" pu*sy.

Any thoughts on the price differences for Nov-Dec2020 vs. Feb-Mar2021?[/QUOTE]In my opinion, November might be overly optimistic. I hope to be wrong.

If you're on a budget, I'd do 2 things. First try to find ways to cut current spending and put more aside for your trip. Then I would push the trip back to a point where your budget will be less strained. You can also play around with your travel dates. Sometimes it's cheaper to stay a day longer, or to fly the next day.

There are plenty of ways to cut your costs while in Medellin. Some of them depend on your comfort zone and mongering style. Some, almost anyone can use.

1. Don't stay in Poblado. You can find suitable places for much less. Laureles is popular. You can also find places in Envigado and Sabaneta that will save you money. If you're comfortable in a very urban setting, you can save a lot by staying in El Centro. It's not for everyone, but there are some nice places for 300 k per week.

2. Use public transportation. If you're hitting the casas in El Centro, you can save 20 k per day or more by using the Metro or the buses. Sometimes, especially at night, a taxi or Uber is necessary, but for daytime excursions I almost always use buses or Metro.

3. Menu del DIA. You can go to a nice restaurant and spend 20-50 k on a meal, or you can go to a basic Colombian restaurant and order the menu of the day. Cost is from 8-15 k, depending on where you're at. Meal usually includes your choice of meat, soup or beans, a small salad with avocado, rice, potatoes and or yuca, a fried plantain and drink. You can find breakfast for 5-12 k at similar restaurants. If you're not comfortable walking around the neighborhoods looking for restaurants, try a mall. The food courts have lots of options. Mitos is very good. Macondos is pretty good and a bit cheaper.

4. Visit some casas. About 50 k gets you 30 minutes. If you do a casa during the day, it'll free up some money for having a girl come over at night.

5. If you're renting a full apartment with kitchen, buy some basic groceries to eat at least once a day in the apartment. Fruits, vegetables, milk, rice, eggs and chicken are all inexpensive.

I think you nailed it right there and that will be my mindset going forward. Thanks.

Lumi.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2470278]I would get in when I could and not worry about the price.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Nounce, I'm working on it haha.

Lumi.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2470281]I think it is when you become a senior member.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2470236]Regal idea seeing the girls that don't rob you, PN. On a serious note, can you elaborate on your dates/plan, as it pertains to visa/permit, etc. ? Are you planning to apply for an extension? Do you have a visa? Thanks!

Pinky came over last night. Her hair is all natural, now. Body as good as always. We brought a tv up to the jacuzzi and were in there for hours upon hours. I must have had 14 Aguila Lights. Only one pop, but it was a good one. Got her Ubers each way, maybe 25 k total. She stayed the night. We discussed her moving in, as she's living in a dorm setup, with a 5-bedroom place that is only occupied by her and her brother. Her brother is always with his girlfriend, and she doesn't have money for rent. She's sweet, and fun, and a bit more mature than wifey. Also, she's hotter. I love her body. She was showing her T&A to my buddies on video chat, all night. We'll see. I'm not 100% committed to the idea, but it could work for both of us. She's also open to threesomes. Oh, on that note, I also received a WhatsApp message from the Bailarina. BEBE. She was asking if she could "rent" my extra room. I asked her why she thought I would want that, and why I get out of it. I explained there's no way I would expect her to pay half the rent, so why would I want to have to tip toe through her room to go workout, to go enjoy some fresh air, to use the jacuzzi, etc. She's one of those addicted to social media types, and I haven't had her one-on-one, so I don't even know about the chemistry. I think Pinky would genuinely be very thankful and gracious for my hospitality.[/QUOTE]1000% would have Pinky move in over Bailarina. Bailarina is on IG and whatsapp 23 hours a day and has crazy eyes. You can just tell she would be a problem. Plus I think Pinky is way hotter.

[QUOTE=Bill1963;2470256]What website did you use to meet the 10/10 Mexicans?[/QUOTE][URL]Seeking.com[/URL] or seeking arrangement, but it is going to take time to find them.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2470094]It's not based on nationality, some of my friends confirmed it by personal experience. If a country has any sense they will realize how unreasonable and ineffective it is to ban travelers base on their nationalities.[/QUOTE]But many countries have it based on where you live, that is residency. Which can be different than nationality for sure. When I left Bogota this was the case. Unless you could prove residency in the destination countries you were not allowed to get on the plane. And as I read the EU restrictions it says that it is based on where you live. Ie. Residency. With exceptions of course for diplomats, family members, etc. Etc.

In the case of Costa Rica it is not yet clear as there are statements making it sound both ways. I expect they will clarify this in their own good time.

I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.

I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.

I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.

I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.

I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.[/QUOTE]That's a hell of a price point! I rarely can make anything happen at that rate. But, it does happen. Carry on.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.

I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.

I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.[/QUOTE]Nice to see you having recovered from your near death experience and having a blast in retirement.

Kudos to you for researching finding and then getting what you want. Cost of living is lower in Belen than other parts more frequented by mongers. One of the interesting things I observed on my 2nd trip to Medellin this year before the lockdown is the variation in price points across the city. A restaurant meal of similar quality and quantity can be easily 3 x in price. 5-10 k to 30 k or more. Most gringos hit up Poblado Laureles or Centro and say they saw Medellin. Yeah some areas are dangerous but many more are just ordinary middle class suburban neighborhoods.

Do you speak Spanish? For me that has been my biggest barrier and something I continue to work on. Hard to develop good relations getting just the hit and run sessions without it. But I must say even there the paisa ladies can be accommodative if you put in some effort. They appreciate the other dimensions of sexuality beyond just the language. The dancing/courting, the touching etc.

Did you just meet these women there or via social media or how exactly did you come across them / proposition them. I have sessioned with a couple of Chicas from Belen and they were both good sessions. We all know the Bello beauties but I do not have the balls to venture up there, and the ones that have taxied have come with Pimp, BF or other company which for me is a buzz kill and also tends to shorten the time etc and gets/feels a lot more transactional.

Anyway welcome to the board and thanks for sharing your experiences. I am sure a couple of the older mongers wondering if their time is up will feel rejuvenated.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.

I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.

I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.[/QUOTE]This is a refreshing post to read as some of our other posters, lets just say I will call them the "young bucks" have a hard time imagining the older farts like guy's over 65 banging Chica's that are 50 years younger then they are. Imagine banging someone five decades or 1/2 a century younger than you. I can see it being hard to fathom for some, while the one's doing it giggling about it.

And living in Bellen, it's a very large barrio, about as middle class as you can get, and they have a great sports complex there, "Unidad Deportes" with an Olympic pool, tennis courts, workout areas, soccer fields, etc which I have enjoyed frequently.

Please keep posting, your experiences will be valuable to others.

When I first moved to Medellin, I lived in Hotel Botero for 10 months. My oldest chica worked across the street in Yakusa. We hit it off on one-hour trips to my hotel room.

Other chicas I found at downtown casas. I sampled girls daily but only ran into lasting chemistry a few times. I know a smattering of Spanish, so I translated a little teaser with my phone number and handed out slips of paper liberally. One or two out of 10 working girls would contact me on WhatsApp later.

Before the quarantine, I used to ride the bus to El Centro weekly for a walk around. Now I put more effort into Facebook and online prepagos sites. I've found a few girls and a nearby casa that way.

Word of mouth works too. A new girl told a friend and now they both are visiting me.

I tell the girls I will pay 100 mil but I need two hours because I'm old. They don't have any problem staying longer once they've come a time or two.

First, thanks for taking the time to respond to a newbie.

I agree with you and I am not booking anything yet, it's still a wait and see kinda situation.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470297]In my opinion, November might be overly optimistic. I hope to be wrong.[/QUOTE]When I say I'm on a budget, I mean it relative to some posters I have read about. My budget for my 4 week trip is right around 14,000,000 COP for everything except flights and accommodations. This includes chicas, food, drink, tours, sights and maybe a little dancing with some non pro's to see if I have any game left.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470297]If you're on a budget, I'd do 2 things. First try to find ways to cut current spending and put more aside for your trip. Then I would push the trip back to a point where your budget will be less strained. You can also play around with your travel dates. Sometimes it's cheaper to stay a day longer, or to fly the next day.[/QUOTE]From my RTFF and for my tastes, Poblado is not for me, might visit the area but it doesn't seem like the spot I want to stay. I have found a great Airbnb in Laureles on Circular 4 between Car 71 and 70,14th floor, 24 HR portero with call up service for visitors, 1 king bed, 1 bath but no Jacuzzi which is the only thing that would be nice but that is based of of Slapshots reports (loved all the Jacuzzi pics). Also thinking of getting a place in El Centro but more on that later.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470297]There are plenty of ways to cut your costs while in Medellin. Some of them depend on your comfort zone and mongering style. Some, almost anyone can use.

1. Don't stay in Poblado. You can find suitable places for much less. Laureles is popular. You can also find places in Envigado and Sabaneta that will save you money. If you're comfortable in a very urban setting, you can save a lot by staying in El Centro. It's not for everyone, but there are some nice places for 300 k per week.[/QUOTE]I am planning on using the metro for daytime travel and taxi, uber, didi, cabify, etc for night time travels.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470297]2. Use public transportation. If you're hitting the casas in El Centro, you can save 20 k per day or more by using the Metro or the buses. Sometimes, especially at night, a taxi or Uber is necessary, but for daytime excursions I almost always use buses or Metro.[/QUOTE]I have read about the menu del DIA and plan to go that route unless I'm craving something specific. I am also a great cook (tooting own horn) and plan to prepare some meals at my place but a monger on the go has to refuel when and where he can!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470297]3. Menu del DIA. You can go to a nice restaurant and spend 20-50 k on a meal, or you can go to a basic Colombian restaurant and order the menu of the day. Cost is from 8-15 k, depending on where you're at. Meal usually includes your choice of meat, soup or beans, a small salad with avocado, rice, potatoes and or yuca, a fried plantain and drink. You can find breakfast for 5-12 k at similar restaurants. If you're not comfortable walking around the neighborhoods looking for restaurants, try a mall. The food courts have lots of options. Mitos is very good. Macondos is pretty good and a bit cheaper.[/QUOTE]The casa or strip club scene, from what I have read is definitely in my wheelhouse and I have in my budget a casa trip per day, along with a Centro girl and probably a FB girl in the evening, depending on my desires of course.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470297]4. Visit some casas. About 50 k gets you 30 minutes. If you do a casa during the day, it'll free up some money for having a girl come over at night.[/QUOTE]Same as point 3 above.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470297]5. If you're renting a full apartment with kitchen, buy some basic groceries to eat at least once a day in the apartment. Fruits, vegetables, milk, rice, eggs and chicken are all inexpensive.[/QUOTE]

And is how I wish the rest of my like to be!

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2470473]But many countries have it based on where you live, that is residency. Which can be different than nationality for sure. When I left Bogota this was the case. Unless you could prove residency in the destination countries you were not allowed to get on the plane. And as I read the EU restrictions it says that it is based on where you live. Ie. Residency. With exceptions of course for diplomats, family members, etc. Etc.

In the case of Costa Rica it is not yet clear as there are statements making it sound both ways. I expect they will clarify this in their own good time.[/QUOTE]I know this is a moot point now, but I want to put forward some of my logical reasoning. It seems like we all agree that banning nationality is not practical; now, the next concern is to restrict residency. Here is a hypothetical to consider, I am a German citizen who lived in China or America during the entire time of COVID, and I took a humanitarian flight back to Germany using my German passport. I immediately try to board a flight to Costa Rica on the same day I arrived in Germany. Is the immigration officer at the German airport or in Costa Rica going to ask a German citizen to show proof of residency in Germany? Don't you think it is ironic? To complicate the matter further, many people have duo citizenship; they hold a passport in one of the E. You. Countries and the USA. Is Costa Rica's custom going to start an FBI like investigation on every tourist to trace down their whereabouts in the last three months?

Let's get back to Medellin; after all, the people here could care less about Costa Rica, we all want to get back to heaven, a. K. a Medellin. I think Colombia must open its border in September. Here is my reasoning:

Colombia has been implementing one of the strictest border restrictions in the world, certainly the most rigorous in South America. President Duque has covered his ass already. No one can blame him for not trying to put Colombian life first. He has every reason to come out and say, "Hey guys, I have tried the hardest in the world to protect our country, but we can't afford to let our economy deteriorate any further. We need to resume foreign investment and tourism."

On the other hand, if he chooses to extend the border closure beyond September 1st, he will be setting a precedent of COVID induced border closure. Political, it is hard to justify and risky, especially if Sweden or Brazil achieve herd immunity or countries like Costa Rica that have open their borders manage to keep their COVID case under control. I think the question is how will Colombia reopen in September, which country will be in the first wave and how can we get into those countries for the USA.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.

I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.

I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.[/QUOTE]Bravo Tomcat! I will soon be retiring in Philippines (next year) and hope to continue mongering in Colombia and Dominican Republic. Yes, it is amazing to have passionate sex with sexy, beautiful late teens and twenty-somethings! Aside from the pussy how do you like living in Medellin? I have only been there once (last year) but had a great time!

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.[/QUOTE]Incidentally: only 4 posts on ISG, zero BS and so much to teach!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470554]This is a refreshing post to read as some of our other posters, lets just say I will call them the "young bucks" have a hard time imagining the older farts like guy's over 65 banging Chica's that are 50 years younger then they are. Imagine banging someone five decades or 1/2 a century younger than you. I can see it being hard to fathom for some, while the one's doing it giggling about it.[/QUOTE]It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. But this is normal in South America where prostitution has always been legal. Americans may be "giggling" about it but no one there is.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.

I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.

I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.[/QUOTE]I too love your energy and zest for life. As your about a decade older than me your look on life gives me hope for what is in store for me.

And yes I happened to be in Belen yesterday, drove there to help a friend in need. Decent area for sure and don't get me started on the young pussy that is available all around. When I was dropping off my friend, within one fricken block in belen, I counted no less than 3 teenage and early 20's paisas who left my head spinning, damn cuties all around.

Just a quick example was last night after some shopping in Jumbo San Juan I headed over to the calf area in San Diego, its about 8:15 PM and as soon as I enter the area my gawd found a newly fresh 18 yo whom I had picked up months ago. She rocked my world, so enthusiastic, so giving, so much energy, all for 60 mil. Heck back when I lived in LA & OC California I would gladly pay $200 plus USD for this teen and now living in Medellin for over 3 years, visiting Medellin for the past 10 before that, these are almost common experiences.

Keep going!

The Tall Man.

That is a normal price point. Granted the Parque Lleras crew, facebook pros, and seeking arrangement mercenaries won't accept it but it is a very rare civilian who we see regularly who would turn down this fair deal when it includes uber / didi / taxi.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470519]That's a hell of a price point! I rarely can make anything happen at that rate. But, it does happen. Carry on.[/QUOTE]

Impressive statistics.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2470689]Incidentally: only 4 posts on ISG, zero BS and so much to teach![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470506]I am a retired newspaperman from Nebraska who moved to Medellin 2 1/2 years ago. I read ISG before I came and it helped immensely.

I was new to the monger game. In USA, I'd been married once and had long-term girlfriends thereafter. But in 2016, I suffered a brain bleed which made me re-think my priorities. My first international travel came soon after, to Costa Rica. I had great time with prostitutes at Sportsmen's Lodge. Internet helped me zero in on Medellin.

I rent an apartment in Belen. Chicas I know visit me despite the quarantine. The problem is finding enough time and energy to accommodate them all. I pay 50,000 pesos an hour and taxis. Today one of my favorites stayed 4 hours. I got 69, BJs, mish and spoon to exhaustion (forgot doggie). I gave her four orgasms licking her pussy. She gave me a rare orgasm fucking me enthusiastically.

I never had this much sex in my life! I am 70 and my chicas range from 19 to 41.[/QUOTE]Love your post, especially because it made me feel there is hope for good sex even at 70

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2470690]It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. But this is normal in South America where prostitution has always been legal. Americans may be "giggling" about it but no one there is.[/QUOTE]I think you missed my point. The part being hard to fathom is not being able to obtain anything, that's a given as money talks regardless of age. My point was for the younger mongers to imagine banging someone over fifty years younger than themselves, and many of the mongers on this board are under fifty. That's what I was referring to.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2470454][URL]Seeking.com[/URL] or seeking arrangement, but it is going to take time to find them.[/QUOTE]I have used this site to bang some spectacular women and a few long term relationships with young girls here in Canada.

I currently have 3 sugar babies here 18 to 19 yrs old.

I know about the time and money it takes to weed through the girls to get a gem.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470586]When I first moved to Medellin, I lived in Hotel Botero for 10 months. My oldest chica worked across the street in Yakusa. We hit it off on one-hour trips to my hotel room.

Other chicas I found at downtown casas. I sampled girls daily but only ran into lasting chemistry a few times. I know a smattering of Spanish, so I translated a little teaser with my phone number and handed out slips of paper liberally. One or two out of 10 working girls would contact me on WhatsApp later.

Before the quarantine, I used to ride the bus to El Centro weekly for a walk around. Now I put more effort into Facebook and online prepagos sites. I've found a few girls and a nearby casa that way.

Word of mouth works too. A new girl told a friend and now they both are visiting me.

I tell the girls I will pay 100 mil but I need two hours because I'm old. They don't have any problem staying longer once they've come a time or two.[/QUOTE]I have a friend who up until the Pandemic would visit Medellin frequently and basically employed the same technique you used in the casa's with slips of paper. However he had business cards printed up with his name and contact information on them and some dollar signs as well printed on the cards. He would walk around El Centro and when he saw a girl he liked that was alone, he would chat her up and hand her his card, and tell them to call him if they weren't available on the spot. Granted you have to have a fair amount of Spanish speaking skills to pull this off, but it worked for him.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470717]I think you missed my point. The part being hard to fathom is not being able to obtain anything, that's a given as money talks regardless of age. My point was for the younger mongers to imagine banging someone over fifty years younger than themselves, and many of the mongers on this board are under fifty. That's what I was referring to.[/QUOTE]If they can "fathom" themselves having a few bucks in their pocket at age 70 plus a plane ticket to Colombia, then they should be able to fathom banging someone 50 years younger. That's if they think ahead. If so then "fathoming" should be no problem at all. LOL.

One of the reasons I moved to Medellin was the pleasant year-round climate. In Nebraska, it's either freezing in winter or muggy hot in summer.

The cost of living is about one-third here.

Prostitution is legal. Women never seem to make an issue of my age. I am fairly fit for my age, except 50+ years of smoking have stolen my wind.

I don't experience much culture shock because I am basically a loner and an introvert. I read a lot, just like I did in Nebraska. There, I used to play computer games a lot. Now I play house with young women. We manage to talk as much as we want with translators.

My only regret is not figuring this out 10 or 20 years ago.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2470727]If they can "fathom" themselves having a few bucks in their pocket at age 70 plus a plane ticket to Colombia, then they should be able to fathom banging someone 50 years younger. That's if they think ahead. If so then "fathoming" should be no problem at all. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yep, you got it, lot's of younger guys, and there have been multiple posts by them, have a hard time envision mongering in their seventies, yet this board thru various posters illustrates differently.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2470690]It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. But this is normal in South America where prostitution has always been legal. Americans may be "giggling" about it but no one there is.[/QUOTE]I am older than 70 and have never been turned down for a pay deal. I have been told many times that the girls like a older guy. Of course it may be BS on their part but nice words from a young girl are always good to hear.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2470751]I am older than 70 and have never been turned down for a pay deal. I have been told many times that the girls like a older guy. Of course it may be BS on their part but nice words from a young girl are always good to hear.[/QUOTE]Older guys are overall easier to handle, pay well and don't want to jackhammer their pussies for hours. They also tend to respect the arrangement without falling in love.

If you go to casas then you may have been screened out and not know it. At most places they can get a peek at you before "presenting. " This is made the easier if they start from behind a curtain. They can also screen out their Facebook dates. They typically want to see a photo in advance if yours isn't included in your profile. The stomach remark was just the facts of life. Humans don't look better as they age. There's nothing attractive about the process of dying, though many can overlook this for practical considerations.

[QUOTE=Tomcat88;2470728]One of the reasons I moved to Medellin was the pleasant year-round climate. In Nebraska, it's either freezing in winter or muggy hot in summer.

The cost of living is about one-third here.

Prostitution is legal. Women never seem to make an issue of my age. I am fairly fit for my age, except 50+ years of smoking have stolen my wind.

I don't experience much culture shock because I am basically a loner and an introvert. I read a lot, just like I did in Nebraska. There, I used to play computer games a lot. Now I play house with young women. We manage to talk as much as we want with translators.

My only regret is not figuring this out 10 or 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]How do you support yourself? I'm in my 30's and would love to move to a warmer and cheaper place.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2470628] I think Colombia must open its border in September. Here is my reasoning:[/QUOTE]Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. Pollo Negro is out!

Can't envision themselves buying a hooker after age 70? Somehow I missed those posts. It would be perfectly normal for guys who pay for sex to continue to do so, if only occasionally for as long as they have wood and can get around. I think the problem here is that you thought you had a point when you really didn't. Is nothing hard to fathom about old guys having sex with young hookers, especially in Colombia where it's perfectly normal. It's no big deal and certainly nothing to "giggle" about. On to the next topic. LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470741]Yep, you got it, lot's of younger guys, and there have been multiple posts by them, have a hard time envision mongering in their seventies, yet this board thru various posters illustrates differently.[/QUOTE]

Just got back from El Centro. Pretty crazy again. Don't think I've seen this many chicas out there. I guess the quarantine on the weekends brings them all out during there week now. Something for everybody.

Not sure if this a reputable news source or not. The link and the translation for those that don't want to click.

[URL]https://diariolalibertad.com/sitio/2020/07/gobierno-ampliara-un-mes-mas-la-cuarentena-por-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0cUZ-ElKhompbCpH3z8FAUPlSrnSDxv7u5Y9CRnrqaQdRskH2lVHFD_fQ[/URL]

This Tuesday, July 28, President Ivand Duque would announce the extension of mandatory preventive isolation for one more month, starting on August 1. The measure seeks to cover with the necessary restrictions to withstand the peak of the pandemic in cities such as Bogot, Medellin and others that have raised their epidemiological indicators.

Parallel to this measure, new sectors of the economy would be opened in regions with a low incidence of coronavirus.

The announcement would take place during the daily 'Prevention and Action' program, where the president would extend the mandatory preventive isolation, in the same current format, maintaining the schedules to go out for fresh air and making progress in the reactivation of productive life.

Also, the verification of compliance with biosafety protocols by companies will continue, in relation to teleworking in as many positions as possible and with all biosafety protocols.

The government also expects that the opening activity by municipalities with a low incidence of Covid-19 will continue, according to the Interior Ministry report, in addition to the fact that local leaders continue to request the application of the pilot plans in different economic sectors.

For those of you buying videos, and those who are pulling girls from Facebook, here's one you'll want to avoid. Valeria Gomez, photo attached. Uses PayPal listed as Juan Carlos Cordoba Cabrera.

Agreed on a price along with quantity and length of videos. Nothing sent, except 2 extremely short clips. Keeps complaining, wanting more money and coming up with excuses. Looks good in the pictures, but definitely not worth the bullshit.

I'm considering this a win. I'd already decided to stop buying videos the first time I got cheated. Now I will inform anyone selling videos who they can blame if nobody wants to buy their videos.

Check those dates for flights to Fort Lauderdale.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2470765]Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2470709]That is a normal price point. Granted the Parque Lleras crew, facebook pros, and seeking arrangement mercenaries won't accept it but it is a very rare civilian who we see regularly who would turn down this fair deal when it includes uber / didi / taxi.[/QUOTE]It's normal if you live there or have a few months on the ground. Guys that show up for a week will generally have a hard time getting hot-looking paisas for 50 k. These guys typically are not going to have the patience to befriend girls that aren't the popular Facebook / Mansion / Strip club girls.

Social distancing measures have been extended to August 30,2020.

[QUOTE]Let's get back to Medellin; after all, the people here could care less about Costa Rica, we all want to get back to heaven, a. K. a Medellin. I think Colombia must open its border in September. Here is my reasoning:


Colombia has been implementing one of the strictest border restrictions in the world, certainly the most rigorous in South America. President Duque has covered his ass already. No one can blame him for not trying to put Colombian life first. He has every reason to come out and say, "Hey guys, I have tried the hardest in the world to protect our country, but we can't afford to let our economy deteriorate any further. We need to resume foreign investment and tourism."

On the other hand, if he chooses to extend the border closure beyond September 1st, he will be setting a precedent of COVID induced border closure. Political, it is hard to justify and risky, especially if Sweden or Brazil achieve herd immunity or countries like Costa Rica that have open their borders manage to keep their COVID case under control. I think the question is how will Colombia reopen in September, which country will be in the first wave and how can we get into those countries for the USA.[/QUOTE]Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.

Yesterday I turned down a great job offer in the US. I'm worried I may regret doing so.

Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349[/URL]

Those are fair points.

[QUOTE=Combo;2470776]It's normal if you live there or have a few months on the ground. Guys that show up for a week will generally have a hard time getting hot-looking paisas for 50 k. These guys typically are not going to have the patience to befriend girls that aren't the popular Facebook / Mansion / Strip club girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2470183]Sunday July 26,2020.
(Apartment is unfurnished, but with the price of furniture and other items, each month I will buy a set of furniture piece by piece).
Clearly no one on the board is addressing the fact that there are no new clients coming in or going out, the situation is this, you must find a way to earn a date with the clients who are here or you starve and clearly many of them are starving. [/QUOTE]Four months ago you were bragging about making $10,000+ a month with your new business. But now you have to fill up the apartment piece by piece? (Things that make you you go Hmmm.).

Starving huh? Most girls asking 30-40 for half an hour. Gave a girl my number but no text. Three days later I saw her and was ready to go right then. She asked for 50. I countered 40. She said no so I shrugged and walked away. Paying that is no problem but it told me already how much fun it was not going to be. She was kinda thin. Maybe she was starving.

Two of my girls just had their nails done. Here are the pictures. Maybe they are going to eat their nails. I have seen several of the girls I have had go with several guys.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2470765]Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. [/QUOTE]Your proof is that your direct flights to Tampa has been canceled 4 times and you can not get home? You need to do some serious research. Go to the travel section and read mine or others posts about STEP. Or go to [URL]Spirit.com[/URL] monthly view for flights from MDE to FLL (their home base). Then fly from Fort Lauderdale to Tampa.

MDE will be locked down Fri, Sat, Sun this week and next week. Bogota and Baranquilla have it worse.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2470768]Just got back from El Centro. Pretty crazy again. Don't think I've seen this many chicas out there. I guess the quarantine on the weekends brings them all out during the week now. [/QUOTE]You forgot to mention the front and side of the church and the front of the museum are fenced off so everyone is forced into an area half the size now.

It is true. It was announced by the President himself during his daily briefing this evening.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2470771]Not sure if this a reputable news source or not. The link and the translation for those that don't want to click.

[URL]https://diariolalibertad.com/sitio/2020/07/gobierno-ampliara-un-mes-mas-la-cuarentena-por-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0cUZ-ElKhompbCpH3z8FAUPlSrnSDxv7u5Y9CRnrqaQdRskH2lVHFD_fQ[/URL]

This Tuesday, July 28, President Ivand Duque would announce the extension of mandatory preventive isolation for one more month, starting on August 1. The measure seeks to cover with the necessary restrictions to withstand the peak of the pandemic in cities such as Bogot, Medellin and others that have raised their epidemiological indicators.

Parallel to this measure, new sectors of the economy would be opened in regions with a low incidence of coronavirus.

The announcement would take place during the daily 'Prevention and Action' program, where the president would extend the mandatory preventive isolation, in the same current format, maintaining the schedules to go out for fresh air and making progress in the reactivation of productive life..[/QUOTE]

Yes, I agree. She friended me and then quickly sent some clothed fotos and asked for $10-$20. She's been bugging me periodically since, even calling me. Time to block her. I like flacas, but she's really too skinny even for me. I agree. Stay clear of her.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470772]For those of you buying videos, and those who are pulling girls from Facebook, here's one you'll want to avoid. Valeria Gomez, photo attached. Uses PayPal listed as Juan Carlos Cordoba Cabrera.

Agreed on a price along with quantity and length of videos. Nothing sent, except 2 extremely short clips. Keeps complaining, wanting more money and coming up with excuses. Looks good in the pictures, but definitely not worth the bullshit.

I'm considering this a win. I'd already decided to stop buying videos the first time I got cheated. Now I will inform anyone selling videos who they can blame if nobody wants to buy their videos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luminus;2470771]Not sure if this a reputable news source or not. The link and the translation for those that don't want to click.

[URL]https://diariolalibertad.com/sitio/2020/07/gobierno-ampliara-un-mes-mas-la-cuarentena-por-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR0cUZ-ElKhompbCpH3z8FAUPlSrnSDxv7u5Y9CRnrqaQdRskH2lVHFD_fQ[/URL]

This Tuesday, July 28, President Ivand Duque would announce the extension of mandatory preventive isolation for one more month, starting on August 1. The measure seeks to cover with the necessary restrictions to withstand the peak of the pandemic in cities such as Bogot, Medellin and others that have raised their epidemiological indicators.

Parallel to this measure, new sectors of the economy would be opened in regions with a low incidence of coronavirus.

The announcement would take place during the daily 'Prevention and Action' program, where the president would extend the mandatory preventive isolation, in the same current format, maintaining the schedules to go out for fresh air and making progress in the reactivation of productive life.

Also, the verification of compliance with biosafety protocols by companies will continue, in relation to teleworking in as many positions as possible and with all biosafety protocols..[/QUOTE]Thanks for this information. I hope they flatten this damn curve. Costa Rica still opened while the number of cases is on the raise, they announced today that you. S citizens can go in through the you. K after a 14-days of self-quarantine, it is official now, no further debate needed ([URL]http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150[/URL]). We can still legally go to the you. K ([URL]https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html[/URL]) which opens the door for the EU, as long as Medellin opens in September, regardless how restrictive, we have a chance to go in.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2470473]But many countries have it based on where you live, that is residency. Which can be different than nationality for sure. When I left Bogota this was the case. Unless you could prove residency in the destination countries you were not allowed to get on the plane. And as I read the EU restrictions it says that it is based on where you live. Ie. Residency. With exceptions of course for diplomats, family members, etc. Etc.

In the case of Costa Rica it is not yet clear as there are statements making it sound both ways. I expect they will clarify this in their own good time.[/QUOTE]Its official now, you. S citizens can go into Costa Rica through the you. K, which we can still legally go, after 14 days of self-quarantine, no need to show residency. [URL]http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150.[/URL] Fingers crossed that Colombia adopts similar measure on September.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470780]Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry to find out that guys like P. And. And Slapshot can use the same resources you have to make a heaven out of it while you seem pretty depressed. As much as I hate to see you in pain, I also selflessly hope your inability extends to your predictability.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470780]Yesterday I turned down a great job offer in the US. I'm worried I may regret doing so.[/QUOTE]Why go through an interview to receive a "great offer" and turn it down, and then turn around to worry about having regrets, and then share this information with us here. The amount of logic inconsistency of your situation hurts me as I type out this sentence. However, I am extremely pleased to receive a sentence full of paradox from a person who predicts Medellin will remain shut down until next year; it confirms your relationship with logic reasoning. Amen.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470780]Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. I appreciate it. I'm hopelessly in love with Medellin, and I will try everything in my power to go back there. For better or for worse, I'm not known as a person who gives up on love quickly.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2470765]Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year. I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Your sentences evoke some profound wonderment I always have about the human mind. How does our mind search for logical satisfaction? I'm fascinated to learn how a person could be satisfied with the logical underpinning expressed in this sentence: "Your reasoning is mute, let me show you why I rented an apartment for a year."

While soaking in this wonderful fascination, these seemingly unconnected statements, "I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public, at least not in September, Maybe in January 2021. Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March" urge me to make sense of reality. You magically quantified "Never" (I doubt that Colombia will be open to the public) to "More than one month" (at least not September) and then further solidified to "six months" (Maybe in January 2021). Since we are throwing out numbers without grounds, why not throw a better figure, such as ten days, to offer some encouragement for the people in hell. I fuck mainly Gusto and FB girls for 500-700 k a night in my Poblado penthouse, having me in Medellin will not destroy your way of life.

As for "Good luck with your reasoning, I have had 4 flights cancelled since March". I need to try hard to search for the area of inadequacy within me that prevents me from seeing any logic embedded in this sentence.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470717]I think you missed my point. The part being hard to fathom is not being able to obtain anything, that's a given as money talks regardless of age. My point was for the younger mongers to imagine banging someone over fifty years younger than themselves, and many of the mongers on this board are under fifty. That's what I was referring to.[/QUOTE]I'm in my 30's, I can't imagine what it would be like when I'm in my 70's and still banging 18-year-olds, but it is pretty awesome to know that 40 years later I can still have foursomes with three 18-year-olds. I know an older monger in Medellin who fucks two different 18-year-olds a night, good for him, but I don't ever want to picture him naked. What's interesting is that will I still keep in touch with the 18-year-olds that I'm fucking now, 40 years later they will be in their late 60's.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2470775]Check those dates for flights to Fort Lauderdale.[/QUOTE]Spirit airlines ought to be very ashamed. They attempted to allow me to book the same seat from MDE to FLL that I have booked on the same day. That's weird, to get to TPA you must pass through FLL, all dates are blacked out to TPA, but FLL is allowing you to book flights. Spirit does not return money, they try and give you credit for flights later on that are valid a year from the date you purchase this ticket. I would not try and book a flight if you do not want your finances tied up for a least 14 days before being returned. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470780]Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors. [URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349[/URL][/QUOTE]You've touched upon something a lot of the board members who currently aren't in Medellin don't realize, don't want to acknowledge, or perhaps want to ignore, and hope it ain't so.

Things aren't like they were before the Pandemic with places being closed, lock-down's, and restrictions. So for those aching to get back while all this "madness" is going on, it's not the paradise it was as you have painfully pointed out and know this is a bitter pill to swallow for some. I could of stayed in Medellin if I elected to back in March but elected to leave. I would not be doing well there being locked down, albeit I would have pussy, but everything else I like to do there would be a bust. I can see how it kind of sucks as you mention, and others not currently in Medellin dying to return need to be cognizant of this and be patient until there's some normalcy whatever that may be.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470772]For those of you buying videos, and those who are pulling girls from Facebook, here's one you'll want to avoid. Valeria Gomez, photo attached.........[/QUOTE]She is an example of the sort of chica that you could have found in Energy 12 years ago.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470780]Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.

Yesterday I turned down a great job offer in the US. I'm worried I may regret doing so.

Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.

[URL]https://www.elcolombiano.com/colombia/duque-extiende-nuevamente-el-aislamiento-en-colombia-KJ13384349[/URL][/QUOTE]As both yourself and PN state I too have come to the conclusion that international flights into Colombia will not resume until at least November or December and more likely only after the New Year 2021.

Since April I get a call from my best buddy in the US a few times each week asking "what's new, when are the flights open" and always my same response "wait till the first quarter 2021 and should it happen any sooner consider it a gift". What is that old saying "a watched kettle never boils" hehehehehe so true.

In the meantime I receive daily messages fro a half dozen of really great fun chicas here in Medellin all wanting to know when we can meet up. I also get personal naked videos sent unsolicited from a few of these special girls in my stable. All good fun.

Much respect and love to all.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2470690]It should be very easy to fathom. Just as a 70 year old can go in a restaurant and order a meal, the same can order up a prostitute. Some won't do Santas over 65, but most will, all comes down to their stomach. ...........[/QUOTE]I can't recall ever having been refused in Latin America. I judge from facial expression and body language to avoid an embarrassing situation so when an Asian girl looks away or crumples her face I don't approach. I also have had some European girls avoid eye contact and I take that as a cue. I often wonder whether it is because of my age or my girth but will not ask. Fortunately they are in the minority.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470780]Find something else to ponder, find a hobby.[/QUOTE]Reading and posting on the ISG MDE thread...

Happy to hear it is in the minority, I'm working on it, 30 lbs down, 30 more to go to get back into fighting shape, errrrr f*cking shape!!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2470909]I often wonder whether it is because of my age or my girth but will not ask. Fortunately they are in the minority.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Combo;2470776]It's normal if you live there or have a few months on the ground. Guys that show up for a week will generally have a hard time getting hot-looking paisas for 50 k. These guys typically are not going to have the patience to befriend girls that aren't the popular Facebook / Mansion / Strip club girls.[/QUOTE]It's the Vegas syndrome.

People who go to Las Vegas for a long weekend gravitate towards the strip, they pay more for hotels and meals (and girls too). They gamble more and lose more too.

The people who live there successfully only go to the strip to show it to their friends who come to visit. They have learned where they can get food that's as good or better for half the price (and girls too).

[QUOTE=SJobs;2470852]Thanks for this information. I hope they flatten this damn curve. Costa Rica still opened while the number of cases is on the raise, they announced today that you. S citizens can go in through the you. K after a 14-days of self-quarantine, it is official now, no further debate needed ([URL]http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150[/URL]). We can still legally go to the you. K ([URL]https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html[/URL]) which opens the door for the EU, as long as Medellin opens in September, regardless how restrictive, we have a chance to go in.[/QUOTE]I suggested getting out of the US 6 weeks ago, for anyone with the means to work remotely, or who doesn't need to work. Get anywhere else that's got a better handle on things, do your quarantine, then get to an even better place, quarantine and wait. That's likely to be the quickest route back to Colombia.

Direct from the US to Colombia isn't happening September 1. Unless things change drastically it's not happening before January 1 and I'm not the least bit optimistic about that.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2470780]Guy, LET GO of your obsession of coming to Medellin this year. Its not going to happen. Its not some kind of paradise anyway. Yes there are available women, low cost of living, and steadily pleasant weather. But it kind of sucks. You can't walk 20 meters without getting panhandled aggressively. You can't sit down and eat in a restaurant. Police are becoming more visible and invasive. I had wait in a slow line to LEAVE Homecenter today. Meeting girls casually and organically in the community is done for now. People walking around shell-shocked by dictatorial actions of a president and of mayors.[/QUOTE]Where are you walking? Except for sitting at The Beer Store in Parque Lleras, and once sitting at Thaico, I never had to deal with aggressive panhandlers. Maybe 1 or 2 along La 70 on evenings when there was a big game, but nothing like the touts in the DR.

Can't sit down and eat in a restaurant is still the case in much of the US. Canada too. My options between where I'm at right now and the US border are Burger King, Wendy's, Tim Hortons and Denny's, all of them take out only.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2470853]Its official now, you. S citizens can go into Costa Rica through the you. K, which we can still legally go, after 14 days of self-quarantine, no need to show residency. [URL]http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150.[/URL] Fingers crossed that Colombia adopts similar measure on September.[/QUOTE]Right. Just saw the article from CR. There are two categories basically. Canadian (residents of Canada) and British, Europeans, can go directly to CR as long as they meet the requirements (Covid test before, etc). People from other countries (including the USA) can choose to go to Canada, or the UK, or to Europe, quarantine there for 14 days, and then get on the flights coming from those places to Costa Rica. So this combines the residency / nationality requirement, with the flight origination location.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2470628]On the other hand, if he chooses to extend the border closure beyond September 1st, he will be setting a precedent of COVID induced border closure. Political, it is hard to justify and risky, especially if Sweden or Brazil achieve herd immunity [/QUOTE]Maybe not you, but some people seem to miss some basic math here.

The so-called "herd immunity" is claimed to be reached when, say, 70% of population has got immunity after infection of a new epidemic disease. Besides the fact that it has been not understood yet, for the moment, whether getting out of COVID gives immunity, what level of immunity, and for how long (forever? for years? for months?), numbers say that:

- total population: Brazil 210M, USA 330M.
- 70% infected at "herd immunity"? => Brazil 147M, USA 231M
- maybe 3% need hospitalization? => Brazil 4.4M, USA 6.9M
- 1% infected die? => Brazil 1.5M, USA 2.3M death toll. (Note: as of today, today deaths /1M pop is 417 in Brazil and 460 in USA)

I am not sure that herd immunity is really a goal to aim at. It means a mass death! However, when every family has someone seriously sick or dead, economy gets blocked even without a President who imposes a lockdown. It's hard reality that knocks at the door and becomes self-evident also to the eyes who was was skeptical.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470937]I suggested getting out of the US 6 weeks ago, for anyone with the means to work remotely, or who doesn't need to work. Get anywhere else that's got a better handle on things, do your quarantine, then get to an even better place, quarantine and wait. That's likely to be the quickest route back to Colombia.

Direct from the US to Colombia isn't happening September 1. Unless things change drastically it's not happening before January 1 and I'm not the least bit optimistic about that.[/QUOTE]I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470940]Where are you walking? Except for sitting at The Beer Store in Parque Lleras, and once sitting at Thaico, I never had to deal with aggressive panhandlers. Maybe 1 or 2 along La 70 on evenings when there was a big game, but nothing like the touts in the DR.

Can't sit down and eat in a restaurant is still the case in much of the US. Canada too. My options between where I'm at right now and the US border are Burger King, Wendy's, Tim Hortons and Denny's, all of them take out only.[/QUOTE]There actually are a lot more hustler's and pan handlers out on the streets including Poblado then before the Pandemic.

As far as dining in restaurants, here in Southern California and in a lot of other States, places have taken over parking spaces and have moved dining outdoors along with the bars. If Parque Lleras was in Southern California, every single restaurant with open air dining would be open here. This illustrates how serious and tough Medellin has been compared to the US.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2470950]Canadian (residents of Canada) and British, Europeans, can go directly to CR as long as they meet the requirements (Covid test before, etc)[/QUOTE]Do you mean a Canadian who is in US on Saturday can drive to Canada and be on a flight to fly to CR on Sunday, the next day?

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2470951]Maybe not you, but some people seem to miss some basic math here.[/QUOTE]I think this math guy explains it the best.

[URL]https://twitter.com/tatereeves/status/1282783825219682304[/URL]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2470933]It's the Vegas syndrome.

People who go to Las Vegas for a long weekend gravitate towards the strip, they pay more for hotels and meals (and girls too). They gamble more and lose more too.

The people who live there successfully only go to the strip to show it to their friends who come to visit. They have learned where they can get food that's as good or better for half the price (and girls too).[/QUOTE]Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2470998]Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.[/QUOTE]Since JBee was responding to my post, I'll venture in. I was stating that guys visiting for a short period of time aren't likely to get many hot-looking girls for 50 K like the original poster who lives there. If one lives in Medellin (or Las Vegas or wherever), they have all the time in the World to find and befriend local talent that a short-term visitor just won't have the time or patience to do. There are indeed newer, fresher girls that can be gotten for very low prices. But it generally takes time to find them. And they generally aren't in Poblado. They're in a comuna/neighborhood where they don't see lots of Gringos.

Of course, eventually, some of these girls will be "discovered" by the Gringo hoard, they'll starting hanging out in Poblado and their fees will go up. Then the guy that lives there will just move on to the next batch of less-spoiled fresh talent.

FWIW, I have nothing against Poblado. It's a nice neighborhood to stay in. It's just that everything is way more expensive than in other areas of the city.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470960]It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.[/QUOTE]Surfer, I agree. There is not one speck of recent data supporting a September 1 reopening, and the political situation is even worse than I imagined. If the president reopens the country too soon, and there is a surge of cases, and I am sure they would be, then he is going to get crucified.

The virus is not behaving like it did in Asia and Europe.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2470982]Do you mean a Canadian who is in US on Saturday can drive to Canada and be on a flight to fly to CR on Sunday, the next day?[/QUOTE]Don't worry. Not likely to happen. Cross border non-necessary travel is not permitted between Canada and US. Either way. You could fly I suppose. But why would anyone want to?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2470998]Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.[/QUOTE]Not like Vegas. It's more affluent and trendy. Hipster coffee shops. Think San Francisco.

Very stylish. And if course that's more expensive. Other areas are much more what you would expect from a middle class neighborhood in South America. It's a matter of taste and expense. I personally like the beach and left after one day. Cities are not my thing but the women are beautiful in Medellin. Stunning and Lleras Park has a lot of action although certainly pricey. If you just want girls they are all over and certainly cheaper elsewhere. I found a really nice 21 year old early in the evening and she treated me very well...

[QUOTE=Nounce;2470998]Do you mean El Poblado is similar to Las Vegas? I ask because it appears to me mongers who live / stay there pay MUCH more for everything.[/QUOTE]My comparison would be between all of Medellin and Las Vegas.

The bulk of the tourists stay along the Vegas strip, or in Poblado. The more experienced tourists move off the strip, some to Fremont Street, in Medellin they go to Laureles. The budget tourists go to even cheaper areas of Vegas, El Centro in Medellin. Each one is able to find and do the same things at different price points.

But the people who move to Vegas, or Medellin, soon find their own level. They don't need to be right in the middle of the action. They know where to go, or who to call, for whatever they want, without the tourist markup.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2471016]Don't worry. Not likely to happen. Cross border non-necessary travel is not permitted between Canada and US. Either way. You could fly I suppose. But why would anyone want to?[/QUOTE]Got a spare room? I'll be back tomorrow night.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2471016]Don't worry. Not likely to happen. Cross border non-necessary travel is not permitted between Canada and US. Either way. You could fly I suppose. But why would anyone want to?[/QUOTE]I am somewhat surprised with your response on this entire topic. You can actually say Canadian will be treated like everyone else who enter from US need to be quarantined for 14 days. On the surface, it does not make a lot of sense to deny entry of a citizen at the border, essential or not.

If you want a refund dispute the charge with your credit card company. You will receive credit right away. By act of Congress Spirit can't keep your money. Spirit will stall and offer vouchers but they have to give it up.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2470889]Spirit airlines ought to be very ashamed. They attempted to allow me to book the same seat from MDE to FLL that I have booked on the same day. That's weird, to get to TPA you must pass through FLL, all dates are blacked out to TPA, but FLL is allowing you to book flights. Spirit does not return money, they try and give you credit for flights later on that are valid a year from the date you purchase this ticket. I would not try and book a flight if you do not want your finances tied up for a least 14 days before being returned. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]

Anybody else make it to El Centro today? Saw less talent than yesterday, but still were a lot of chicas out today. Saw some incredible talent around town. Today was a monger day so I picked up a nice, pretty, thick chica with a caramel complexion. BBBJ was fantastic. No rush and sucked for as long as I wanted. I think she was actually enjoying it. Smashed in several different positions. Very sweet and soft is how I would describe her. Let me go balls deep. Really great and satisfying time. Definitely plan to repeat in the future.

It really is an economic question that the president needs to deal with. The country could re-open if it wanted. And just require a COVID 19 negative test upon entry.

The question I have is "who really wants to go to Colombia right now with COVID 19 out of control there"? I would go, but I would hole up in my apartment, enjoy the jacuzzi, read, order domocilio, and, of course, have my chicas visit. But for the average guy who likes to go and party, not much there for you right now. Further, I love going into the barrios, but I won't be going for a while now. Given the economic situation, things are more dangerous as people are more desperate. The average gringo needs to think about that as well.

We'll see. Everyone has an opinion, but none of us really know. I'm just holding on to my reservations. I can always change them.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2471015]Surfer, I agree. There is not one speck of recent data supporting a September 1 reopening, and the political situation is even worse than I imagined. If the president reopens the country too soon, and there is a surge of cases, and I am sure they would be, then he is going to get crucified.

The virus is not behaving like it did in Asia and Europe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2470236]
Pinky came over last night. Her hair is all natural, now. Body as good as always. We brought a tv up to the jacuzzi and were in there for hours upon hours. I must have had 14 Aguila Lights. Only one pop, but it was a good one. [/QUOTE]Nice pics bro. Glad to see folks here enjoying the summer.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470960]I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.[/QUOTE]Just the sates of California and Florida have about the same numbers. By that argument, Colombia is faring better as a country than these states!!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2471015]Surfer, I agree. There is not one speck of recent data supporting a September 1 reopening, and the political situation is even worse than I imagined. If the president reopens the country too soon, and there is a surge of cases, and I am sure they would be, then he is going to get crucified.

The virus is not behaving like it did in Asia and Europe.[/QUOTE]Hopefully this won't start another argument.

The virus has behaved the same everywhere. The difference is how the people behave.

Every time any disease is making the rounds Asia puts on masks. No arguments, no protests, they mask up until it goes away.

Europe has a better educated population. Depending on the country, they've been more aggressive at identification, isolation and contact tracing.

Colombia had the right idea, but too many people just went about business as usual. When the numbers kept going up they didn't or couldn't get the people to comply.

I think it would be of interest to see a breakdown of cases by estrato. I expect the early burden was in estrato 5 and 6 areas. Now I suspect it's spreading faster in the lower estrato barrios.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470960]I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.[/QUOTE]But as has been stated time and again here "lockdown" is a mere word without compliance. Non-compliance is the norm in much of Colombia, especially Bogota. Then we have the reports here of "business as usual" in El Centro Medellin.

It's often the same here in Florida. Bars are supposed to be closed but there's the restaurant / serves food loophole. Many have been opening while setting out snacks or ordering food from nearby restaurants. No, they do not have restaurant licenses but enforcement is scant at best.

Masks are a requirement indoors in my locale but it often doesn't happen. No employee wants to be the one to kick someone out of a store, especially with plenty of loose cannons roaming around. By all reports the major strip clubs here are packed with little mask wearing, none with the girls, and all is normal with the VIP room lapdances. Lockdowns, masks, social distancing, etc. Are just concepts without implementation. And of course enforcement is difficult as it strains LEO resources.

[QUOTE=Combo;2471013]But it generally takes time to find them. [/QUOTE]That is the point but I think you don't need to live in Medellin to find them. I found some that don't want money, or just ponder about it. One put it this way: "si el dinero suge mucho mejor!. I am not saying I can get them for free but I have no doubt many others like Elvis can if he wants to.

Sometimes I wonder if I want to continue to invest in these relationships because it takes far more time than a simpler p4 p when you have to deal with more than one of them. It's like I have to eat all 3 daily meals multiple times a day.

If one wants to have sex quick or with more variety, he likely has to pay more because it is a trade off between money and time. For someone living here but getting paid in US, he can spend the time to make money instead of finding chicas. He will end up with more money in his bank account by paying more.

If I find a very hot chica cheap, I am going to make her an offer to to live with me. If I find two, I will make an offer so each one come every other day. I think I can afford a few, LOL.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471043]It really is an economic question that the president needs to deal with. [/QUOTE]I think it is a political one as well. The government set the date without a plan or restrictions so now it is stuck.

I've got a few questions about the Medellin Quarantine for tourists.

1. How strict is it?

2. Do tourists have to install an app on their phones to track where they go / contact with?

3. Can tourists go outside every day or only certain days based on your passport number (or another identifier like Colombians with their cedula)?

4. Gyms are closed, right? What about the free, public outdoor gyms?

5. Do you have to stay inside your hotel from Friday to Sunday every weekend?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2471035]Anybody else make it to El Centro today? Saw less talent than yesterday, but still were a lot of chicas out today. Saw some incredible talent around town. [b]Today was a monger day[/b][/QUOTE]Are there specific days in which you can do monger? I take it weekends no one goes outside.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2470906]She is an example of the sort of chica that you could have found in Energy 12 years ago.[/QUOTE]Well definitely not nowadays that is for aure. Been twice on two separate trips and wasn't impressed either time. Loutron has the chica quality but its too restrictive and although I do reccomend it once for the novelty, I would not go again. If you can do the legwork and build your roster of chicas, you are aorted everytime.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2471102]Well definitely not nowadays that is for aure. Been twice on two separate trips and wasn't impressed either time. Loutron has the chica quality but its too restrictive and although I do reccomend it once for the novelty, I would not go again. If you can do the legwork and build your roster of chicas, you are aorted everytime.[/QUOTE]Man you should have seen the quality at Loutrons 12 years ago, the hottest hookers on the planet. Correction, the hottest women on the planet. I always try to get in a visit there when I'm in Medellin, nevertheless, I always get a sort of queasy feeling when I'm there more so in the latest location than before.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2470960]I unfortunately agree with you that getting back to Colombia before the end of the year might be a stretch. Things are not going well regarding the virus there, and it appears that all they are able to do is throttle things with the lock-downs so their health care system can keep up, yet cases keep rising, there's no flattening of the infection rate, with over 270,000 infections thus far. It's sad that the Country hasn't been able to slow things down, even with the lockdowns.[/QUOTE]Amazingly though, Brazil is opening up in August if you can show you have health insurance valid in Brazil for the time of your stay, 90 days or less duration.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2470853]Its official now, you. S citizens can go into Costa Rica through the you. K, which we can still legally go, after 14 days of self-quarantine, no need to show residency. [URL]http://costarica-embassy.org/index.php?q=node/150.[/URL] Fingers crossed that Colombia adopts similar measure on September.[/QUOTE]Check out Brazil, brotha Jobs.

Looks like she's opening up in August.

Some sort of health insurance will be required, you can find the details.

As you know, Brazil is just as good, if not better than Colombia for the good times.

[QUOTE=TopoChico571;2471090]

Are there specific days in which you can do monger? I take it weekends no one goes outside.[/QUOTE]Not specific days in general. I monger according to my schedule since I have a GF and a couple of girls I hang with from time to time. I squeeze in the mongering when I have time.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2471228]Check out Brazil, brotha Jobs.

Looks like she's opening up in August.

Some sort of health insurance will be required, you can find the details.

As you know, Brazil is just as good, if not better than Colombia for the good times.[/QUOTE]I'll be returning to my beloved Brasil this winter. I'm just wondering. Can you just show them your insurance card or what? That seems like almost too easy of a requirement.

And of course what will be the deal returning to the US.

I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?

It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2471285]I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?

It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.[/QUOTE]I've never encountered any Colombian that seems uptight talking about stratas. Though it's never occurred to me to ask them about it. The few times it's come up in conversations, it was brought up by them.

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[QUOTE=Luminus;2471285]I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?

It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.[/QUOTE]I've talked with Colombian friends about estrato s, but it was an issue within the subject we were discussing, rather than the main subject. Personally it's not a subject I would ever bring up. Here's my rationalization:

About 30 years ago I had a friend who was a lead carpenter. His wife also had a good job, so they were doing okay. However, they lived in a modest subdivision in Santee. A big contractor in San Diego wanted to hire him, and it would have been an excellent hire. My friend not only had the skills, he had the personality. People were happy to work with him, they were more productive and did better work.

The contractor took my buddy and his wife out to dinner, then headed back to his house for drinks and to talk business. He lived on the bluff overlooking Old Town San Diego with a great view of Mission Bay. While they were all sitting in the jacuzzi, drinking champagne and enjoying the view, the contractor said something like "I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight?" My friend said "I don't know about the rest of them, but 2 of us are sitting in your jacuzzi drinking your champagne."

That one remark completely ended his chance of hiring my friend.

I doubt if very many of us can relate to the estrato 1 and 2 girls who we're spending time with. Things we take for granted are luxuries to them. Things like drywall and hot water. I feel there's too many opportunities to say something insensitive or offensive, which might take away from the session.

Stick with compliments and safe subjects.

Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. I see a fair few people walking around in my neighbourhood, and also a fair amount of traffic and police as well.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2471285]I was wondering about estrato's in Medellin. I believe that they go from 1 being the low income, up to 6 being the high income. My question is, are estrato's talked about in normal conversations or is it best not to ask people about such things?

It's probably better to just ask what area of the city they live and work but that's my North American brain working and I'm just trying to learn about Colombia and her people.[/QUOTE]To answer your question, class-ism, if that is a word, exists in Colombia and is similar to racism. May sound odd, but lots of upper class Colombians (Estrato 6) look down on the the poorer living in the barrios that are Estrata 1 and 2. When you sign up with Claro for cable, they have a tiered payment schedule with the same for EPM for utilities. A few years back I looked at property to buy located in Poblado and the real estate agent brought an attorney and when I asked him about something in Bellen, he made a reference that they were a bunch of low life's living there. And a few years back when I was with one of my Chicas in Provenza, I was introduced to a Colombian couple. And when they asked where my Chica lived and she told them in a barrio called Paris they gave her the cold shoulder. What I experienced was an eye opener for me but not surprising. So unless your good friends with a Colombian, I wouldn't be asking much about it, but typically where they live in the City will be a good indicator. Basically the wealthy are helping to subsidize the poor in Colombia based on their Estrata system.

The insurance will have to be some type of travel / medical ins that would also cover your flight back home. I am pretty sure your insurance won't cover you in a foreign country.

[QUOTE=Combo;2471284]I'll be returning to my beloved Brasil this winter. I'm just wondering. Can you just show them your insurance card or what? That seems like almost too easy of a requirement.

And of course what will be the deal returning to the US.[/QUOTE]

I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2471309]The insurance will have to be some type of travel / medical ins that would also cover your flight back home. I am pretty sure your insurance won't cover you in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471329]I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.[/QUOTE]In the past I have purchased travel insurance with Geo-Blue which cost about $ 250 a year for stays up to 60 days outside of the USA. The policy included evacuation benefit's, but better yet, if you go to one of the Hospitals they are associated with, and there are like three of them in Medellin, you don't need to pay and then be reimbursed, there only is a $ 50 deductible. As far as travel insurance for COVID, I have no idea whether travel insurance covers that.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471329]I always buy travel / medical insurance, primarily for the medical evacuation benefits. When I got ill in Medellin a few years ago, I was in the hospital for 5 days. My primary insurer (United Healthcare) covered most of it, with the medical insurance, as secondary, paying the rest. Only catch is that I had to pay with my credit card and get reimbursed. Check with your insurance company.[/QUOTE]That's good to know. My regular health insurance does cover me outside the country, but, like you, I have to pay first then turn in a claim. However, I doubt medical evacuation is covered. So specific travel medical insurance would be necessary.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471295]I doubt if very many of us can relate to the estrato 1 and 2 girls who we're spending time with. Things we take for granted are luxuries to them. Things like drywall and hot water. I feel there's too many opportunities to say something insensitive or offensive, which might take away from the session..[/QUOTE]There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. Also Colombians don't like Air Conditioning so they wouldn't consider that a luxury either, Aa least this has been my experience with the Estrato 1/2 girls I have been with.

As far as things that we take for granted which are luxuries for Estrato 1/2 girls, getting to go swimming in a pool or playing in a Jacuzzi is huge.

I remember taking one of my El Centro sweethearts up to San Geronimo for a few days, the Hotel had a huge pool with water cannons, and she went nuts like she was on another planet playing in the water. They also had what's called a Turco (sauna) at the Hotel and she had never been in one before. What a trip that was, especially when our clothes came off in the Turco.

[QUOTE=SeanWilkds;2471301]Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. I see a fair few people walking around in my neighbourhood, and also a fair amount of traffic and police as well.[/QUOTE]I got stopped by police twice in Barranquilla. Both times in the Centro (bad area). No problems in the nicer areas when odd number IDs can shop this day and even number IDs shop that day. But the times I got caught was during the strict lock down times.

First time was during the third week when this all started so around the first week of April. It was a semi strict lock down period when you could only got out on certain days and for a reason. Very few places were open. I was in a short time hotel with this girl I was taking for the second time that week. On the way out of the room the guy at the hotel started to chat me in English. I was bored so I thought I would be friendly and chat a bit which I normally never do. I never make friends with the local guys. Always problems. Just a matter of time. After 10 minutes the cops arrive. Wanting to know where I was from, where staying, why am I was there. So the hotel guy says he will take care of it and asks how much money I have on me. I show him 40,000. I paid the girl and was going to grab a bite to eat somewhere so had little money. He says give it to him and he will give to the police so the restaurant employees next door do not see because the police were talking to them too. I gave to him and left. Saw the girl a block away and she looked curious as to what happened but I walked away quickly.

The hotel guy had one of his buddies walk to the park to get the police which was one block away and has a police sub-station. I do not think the police got any of the money. I was chatting with the hotel guy far down the hallway far from the entrance so could not say I was simply passing by to eat at the restaurant next door. I had eaten there 3 days earlier after I had the girl the first time so they knew me as "the foreigner guy". The police do not go door to door checking things out. It was the short time hotel cashier guy!

Second time was during strict lock down that they brought back in Baranquilla for Friday, Saturday, Sunday during last three weeks in June. The ATM did not pay me on Thursday but showed online that it had so I wrote a note and slid it in the mail slot at the bank. As I left 2 motorcycle police saw me as they were passing and stopped me. Told me to follow them behind a mini shopping stall (1.5 x 1.5 meter box). Said it was lock down and they will arrest me. Checked my pockets. Had my phone, 90,000, knife, mace. The knife and mace are no problem. It could be if they said I pulled the knife on them or tried to mace them. They asked for 200,000 then 100,000. I gave them 70,000. I just did not want to lose my phone. It was a holiday that Monday but also a lock down day. I pointed to the 5 people sitting at the corner across from us doing nothing. Like why not go after them? I just had to be wearing new shoes and a polo shirt versus sandals and a regular T-shirt. Plus, I forgot my bag.

I am a bit afraid so the furthest I went was to a restaurant 1 block away last weekend.

My advice. Do not go more than 1 kilometer /.5 mile away. Carry a bag with something in it like you had to have something. Not chips and soda. Emergency stuff like tooth paste, diarrhea medicine, tampons. Tampons would be best. They will probably laugh at you being your GF's * I mean Go-For.

I was 5 blocks north of Botero for the 4 day lock down. Street people of course are not bothered. Always seemed to me 7 locals out going to a hole in the wall convenience store or bakery or drug store even though most were closed. Police passing by every 10 minutes.

Now 5 blocks south and east of Botero (4 blocks east of San Antonio Station). Again homeless people and 7 locals in eye sight getting little items nearby. Police passing by every 7 minutes (police station 3 blocks away). If I was to walk around then there would be police every 4-5 minutes passing me.

If you were in Laureles I think you will be fine because less police I am sure. But have a purpose and a destination.

Change of topic:

Saw a new face at Botero. She just got there and stood 2 meters away. I just watched. She knew I was checking her out because I have a drooling issue. Not real hot but pretty face. Four guys approached her in 45 minutes or less. All shot down. Maybe she was waiting for me. So I took my turn. She texted condom and 35,000. OK let's go. We did the deed. I only need my 3 positions not even a BJ. Very vanilla. After I asked her why she shot down the 4 guys. She told me they wanted things she did not to do. Funny thing is I never told her what I wanted. Guess she was just going to say no to whatever I tried and she did not want to do.

This one is not starving either Pollonegro.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471339]There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. [/QUOTE]Most of the world does not have drywall. It is kind of a modern, cheapskate, quick way of building the interior of a place. Like the 3 little pigs: straw, wood, bricks.

Funny how we think others should want what we see as being better or luxurious in our eyes. I bought a bunch of modern day gadgets for my ex-girlfriend's house in Cali. She did not go near them. That included the hot water I had installed in the shower.

My Russian girl's crib is way better than mine and she is confused why I do not like to stay there often. I like being home in my own shit. Pool or no pool. Many mongers write reports thinking a chick will want to stay at their luxurious hotel. Nah. The chick wants to go home to where she is most at ease, regardless of plush linens and shit. I understand that feeling. That is why I have no problem getting basic digs when I am in Colombia. Those chicks do not need to be impressed and I don't either.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2471079]I think it is a political one as well. The government set the date without a plan or restrictions so now it is stuck.[/QUOTE]Nounce, the government has been changing dates all the time. Thing is that there is a political rivalry between the president and mayor of Bogota like the Republicans and Dems here. The Bogota mayor will hammer the president if he opens up the country and there is a sharp increase in case numbers and given that all the numbers are rising, the only reason for optimism is that he said September 1 was the planned reopen date.

Thing is that he has changed things before. He opened things up; cases got worse, and then closed them back down.

I think the travel ban was a huge mistake, and the president has stupidly painted himself into a corner.

Nothing would make me happier than to see the number of cases plummet and the September 1 reopen date be a reality. It is just there is nothing in the data, and I mean nothing, that is cause for optimism. The numbers just flat out suck right now.

[QUOTE=SeanWilkds;2471301]Looks like this weekend and next weekend are going to be compulsory quarantine again from Friday-Monday. So far have been following that strictly and just going out during the week, just curious if people are going out at all. [/QUOTE]People are allowed to walk their dogs during the weekend quarantine. I know 2 chicas that have dogs and live close enough to come over with their dogs. I have one coming over on Saturday. She will even stop by the tienda and pick up something for me, if I need it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471064]Hopefully this won't start another argument.

The virus has behaved the same everywhere. The difference is how the people behave.
[/QUOTE]So the USA has the most cases in the world, and it is not Trump's fault then because the USA has the most non-compliant population in the world?

JJBee, this is not personal against you because you are not the only person who has said it, but it is asinine.

Look at the travel ban alone. The UK did practically nothing with regards to a travel ban, yet its case numbers are plummeting. The USA, Mexico, and Brazil have had partial travel bans, yet their numbers are surging. Is that because they didn't totally ban travel? If so, then what about Peru and Colombia? There was not a compliance problem with international travel, yet cases in those two countries are surging.

I read one blowhard who said that international travel was the issue with the virus spreading, and no doubt early on it was, but what do you do now? What is the perfect policy right now with regards to international travel and how much is it contributing to the spread of Covid around the world?

The answer is nobody fucking knows! I don't buy this compliance bullshit. Colombia and Peru were totally compliant when it came to restricting international travel.

If we all knew what the perfect policy with regards to international travel was, there would be no debate about when Colombia would open up.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471357]Most of the world does not have drywall. It is kind of a modern, cheapskate, quick way of building the interior of a place. Like the 3 little pigs: straw, wood, bricks.

Funny how we think others should want what we see as being better or luxurious in our eyes. I bought a bunch of modern day gadgets for my ex-girlfriend's house in Cali. She did not go near them. That included the hot water I had installed in the shower.

My Russian girl's crib is way better than mine and she is confused why I do not like to stay there often. I like being home in my own shit. Pool or no pool. Many mongers write reports thinking a chick will want to stay at their luxurious hotel. Nah. The chick wants to go home to where she is most at ease, regardless of plush linens and shit. I understand that feeling. That is why I have no problem getting basic digs when I am in Colombia. Those chicks do not need to be impressed and I don't either.[/QUOTE]I agree to some degree. When I first came to Medellin, some girls would want to leave as soon as we finished fucking, despite my modern penthouse, jacuzzi, unlimited booze, and me being relatively young, tall, respectful, and in good shape. Those chicas were not very comfortable with me, a person from a different cultural background who can't speak Spanish. This is especially true with 18-year-olds; for them, the concept of building a strong reputation as a hooker doesn't exist. They just want to quickly fuck a foreigner to make a few quick bucks, and go party on a farm.

You have to work with those girls and learn their taste in music, drug, food, and alcohol. Repeat with them a few times, show them you can dance well, make them cum while fucking them, and, more importantly, make them feel at home. Soon they will become addicted to the unlimited booze, tussi, food, surround sound speakers in every room, the jacuzzi, the panoramic view of Medellin on your balcony, and the daily maid service. Next thing you know, they will start to bring their friends over (I believe the girls who bring over her friends are taking a cut of what I give her friends). I had many outstanding threesomes and foursomes with girls brought over by my favorites. Most of my favorites girls were clock watchers initially, but once I made them feel that they are entitled to the Provenza penthouse luxury, then the hard thing is to convince them to leave. When I was in Medellin, every night, I have girls who want to come over for free to sleep with me; I guess for them the free booze, jacuzzi, and tussi are worth it, they also know how generous I am, they probably deduced that I would tip them at least 300 k anyway. But I know better; the most expensive sex is free sex, I either turn them down or insisting on paying.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2471228]Check out Brazil, brotha Jobs.

Looks like she's opening up in August.

Some sort of health insurance will be required, you can find the details.

As you know, Brazil is just as good, if not better than Colombia for the good times.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information brotha Balboa; I appreciate it. In my heart, Brazil is forever the number one place for mongering. It is so good to know that Brazil will re-open soon. I miss my time in Brazil.

However, I have invested too much in Medellin; I need to go back there. I have already put in 6 months of private Spanish lessons. I've spent easily 40,000 dollars on developing relationships with Chicas in Medellin from October last year until the end of February 2020. I have established solid relationships with 12 chicas all between 18-21; they will give me the most divine threesomes and foursomes, quarantine, or no quarantine.

I'm in the talks about renting / buying my favorite three level Penthouse apartment in Provenza; all my girls love the love-nest jacuzzi on the roof-top. I'm convinced the moment I make it cross that border, I will be in heaven, the quarantine situation in Medellin will only enhance my experiences, I might be able to pull a five or six-some with my favorite girls. I can imagine having six 18-year-olds living with me 24/7; I can fuck any of them in any way I like, at any time I want. I would be working until 3 am and go in my spare bedroom to fuck three girls together, completely bare, they will share cock like their lives depend on it. Then I will go to sleep with three different girls in the master bedroom. I would wake up in at 10 am get a double blowjob in the jacuzzi before calling into my first meeting, and this is only a typical weekday, it is the tip of the ice-burg, my weekend routine is too insane to put in writing.

If I have spent 40 k in relationship development Brazil, I'm sure I will have a better experience in a penthouse in Ipanema, but this is the price we have to pay with capital investment. It is not easy to change cou.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471295]I've talked with Colombian friends about estrato s, but it was an issue within the subject we were discussing, rather than the main subject. Personally it's not a subject I would ever bring up. Here's my rationalization:

About 30 years ago I had a friend who was a lead carpenter. His wife also had a good job, so they were doing okay. However, they lived in a modest subdivision in Santee. A big contractor in San Diego wanted to hire him, and it would have been an excellent hire. My friend not only had the skills, he had the personality. People were happy to work with him, they were more productive and did better work.

The contractor took my buddy and his wife out to dinner, then headed back to his house for drinks and to talk business. He lived on the bluff overlooking Old Town San Diego with a great view of Mission Bay. While they were all sitting in the jacuzzi, drinking champagne and enjoying the view, the contractor said something like "I wonder what the poor people are doing tonight?" My friend said "I don't know about the rest of them, but 2 of us are sitting in your jacuzzi drinking your champagne."

That one remark completely ended his chance of hiring my friend.[/QUOTE]I agree. I hired a few very talented PhDs and a bunch of people with Master's degrees in Medellin. I don't know what estrato they are in, but they all own apartments in Poblado, I assume it will cost them 200 k to 400 k in dollars for an excellent three-bedroom apartment near the Santa Fe mall. In where I live in California, you can't even buy a bathroom with 400 k. A typical person with their education and work experience in California would easily make 300-400 k a year; it hurts me to even think about how much I'm paying them.

I never mention money, social status, and my housing arrangement when I'm in Medellin. I just talk about salsa, art, science, and insisting on buying everyone aguardiente throughout the night. I can't bend reality, but I treat all my friends (chicas included) in Medellin with the utmost respect, and they all know it.

Just curious, what are some of the telltale signs of chicas from estrato 1 or 2. One of my gusto girls actually threw back the 500 k I give her because she thinks it is too little and walked out on me. Of course, I went to Paradise, on the same night, use the 500 k found an excellent girl to fuck all night, is this a sign of a girl from a relatively higher estrato?

Now that sounds like some great advice, thank you.

Lumi.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471295]

Stick with compliments and safe subjects.[/QUOTE]

This type of system is wide spread across the globe, even in North America you see it. Some wealthy treating the poor, well, poorly!

Lumi.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471308]To answer your question, class-ism, if that is a word, exists in Colombia and is similar to racism. May sound odd, but lots of upper class Colombians (Estrato 6) look down on the the poorer living in the barrios that are Estrata 1 and 2. When you sign up with Claro for cable, they have a tiered payment schedule with the same for EPM for utilities. [/QUOTE]

This is great information. There is one chicka I have been in contact with that has told me she has never been to see the ocean. I am planning my first Colombia trip for 4-5 weeks and I was thinking that if I get bored maybe a 2-3 day stay in San Andres with said chicka might be nice. Airfare seems to be around 160 mil Cop each + hotel, might be a nice way to spend a weekend!

Lumi.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471339]As far as things that we take for granted which are luxuries for Estrato 1/2 girls, getting to go swimming in a pool or playing in a Jacuzzi is huge.

I remember taking one of my El Centro sweethearts up to San Geronimo for a few days, the Hotel had a huge pool with water cannons, and she went nuts like she was on another planet playing in the water. They also had what's called a Turco (sauna) at the Hotel and she had never been in one before. What a trip that was, especially when our clothes came off in the Turco.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471339]There's not much drywall used in Colombia, as most walls are made of block with the exception of ceilings in high rise apartments, so "drywall" won't really register with them as a luxury. Hot water though is a different matter, most of the Estrato 1/2 level girls are used to showering with cold water and prefer it, so they wouldn't consider it a luxury. Also Colombians don't like Air Conditioning so they wouldn't consider that a luxury either, Aa least this has been my experience with the Estrato 1/2 girls I have been with.

As far as things that we take for granted which are luxuries for Estrato 1/2 girls, getting to go swimming in a pool or playing in a Jacuzzi is huge.

I remember taking one of my El Centro sweethearts up to San Geronimo for a few days, the Hotel had a huge pool with water cannons, and she went nuts like she was on another planet playing in the water. They also had what's called a Turco (sauna) at the Hotel and she had never been in one before. What a trip that was, especially when our clothes came off in the Turco.[/QUOTE]I too love to see the reaction of a chica experiencing something that they never would have dreamed of like the two paisas I took on a road trip with me to see the coast, stay in a hotel on the sand, wow just seeing their facing when they walked onto the beach for the first time in their life and dug their feet into the sand, priceless.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2471390]I'm in the talks about renting / buying my favorite three level Penthouse apartment in Provenza; all my girls love the love-nest jacuzzi on the roof-top. I'm convinced the moment I make it cross that border, I will be in heaven, the quarantine situation in Medellin will only enhance my experiences, I might be able to pull a five or six-some with my favorite girls. I can imagine having six 18-year-olds living with me 24/7; I can fuck any of them in any way I like, at any time I want. I would be working until 3 am and go in my spare bedroom to fuck three girls together, completely bare, they will share cock like their lives depend on it. Then I will go to sleep with three different girls in the master bedroom. I would wake up in at 10 am get a double blowjob in the jacuzzi before calling into my first meeting, and this is only a typical weekday, it is the tip of the ice-burg, my weekend routine is too insane to put in writing..[/QUOTE]Have you recently woke up in the middle of the night and discovered you came while sleeping, as this sounds like a dream you had.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2471371]
The answer is nobody fucking knows! I don't buy this compliance bullshit. Colombia and Peru were totally compliant when it came to restricting international travel.[/QUOTE]I think the issue is more than compliance. It is easier to reduce the infection if everyone get tested. In Korea, they find and test everyone that come in contact with the person found with the virus. Not so in the countries that are doing badly. In many cities, you won't get a test unless you show symptom and you probably learn about it a few weeks later from the news and probably no one is making effort to find and inform you. Virus has opportunity to infect more people between the time gap.

I don't think Colombia and Peru are totally compliant. In US we can do grocery shopping once a week, but many in Latin America have to go out for food often for the simple reason they don't have refrigerator.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2471371]
If we all knew what the perfect policy with regards to international travel was, there would be no debate about when Colombia would open up.[/QUOTE]I think someone can find one but Colombia may not be able to execute the plan. Almost all more advanced Asian nations like Korea have not completely shutdown the border and they are doing much better. The one thing I notice is that the citizens are more cooperative and they have peer pressure to follow the rules. They don't waste so much time arguing endlessly while the virus breeds. Now their lives are back to normal.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2471371]So the USA has the most cases in the world, and it is not Trump's fault then because the USA has the most non-compliant population in the world?

JJBee, this is not personal against you because you are not the only person who has said it, but it is asinine.

Look at the travel ban alone. The UK did practically nothing with regards to a travel ban, yet its case numbers are plummeting. The USA, Mexico, and Brazil have had partial travel bans, yet their numbers are surging. Is that because they didn't totally ban travel? If so, then what about Peru and Colombia? There was not a compliance problem with international travel, yet cases in those two countries are surging.

I read one blowhard who said that international travel was the issue with the virus spreading, and no doubt early on it was, but what do you do now? What is the perfect policy right now with regards to international travel and how much is it contributing to the spread of Covid around the world?

The answer is nobody fucking knows! I don't buy this compliance bullshit. Colombia and Peru were totally compliant when it came to restricting international travel.

If we all knew what the perfect policy with regards to international travel was, there would be no debate about when Colombia would open up.[/QUOTE]Travel, and international travel are only pieces of it. The big part of stopping the spread of it is keeping people apart. Masks can help, but the number one thing is not having people within 6 feet of each other. We have almost no cases where I am and the new cases in the whole country are in the low hundreds. Everyone is tested and contact traced, when someone is found with it. And there is free testing available for anyone who thinks they might have a symptom. Testing is turning up less than 1% cases even where people think they may have been exposed or think they may have a symptom.

Anyway. The thing can be beat, there are several countries that have. Not to say there won't be flare ups again. But once the numbers get low the contact tracing and extensive testing can stop it from becoming major outbreaks. Basically stop the community transmission. And certainly countries that have it under control don't want to import cases. Hence strict quarantine rules for anyone entering the country.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2471541]Travel, and international travel are only pieces of it. The big part of stopping the spread of it is keeping people apart. Masks can help, but the number one thing is not having people within 6 feet of each other. We have almost no cases where I am and the new cases in the whole country are in the low hundreds. Everyone is tested and contact traced, when someone is found with it. And there is free testing available for anyone who thinks they might have a symptom. Testing is turning up less than 1% cases even where people think they may have been exposed or think they may have a symptom.

Anyway. The thing can be beat, there are several countries that have. Not to say there won't be flare ups again. But once the numbers get low the contact tracing and extensive testing can stop it from becoming major outbreaks. Basically stop the community transmission. And certainly countries that have it under control don't want to import cases. Hence strict quarantine rules for anyone entering the country.[/QUOTE]What Country are you in?

SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.

1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.

2) Often have shoddy tatoos.

3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.

4) Can drink most of us under the table.

5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).

6) Can be very loud.

7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.

Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2471393]

Just curious, what are some of the telltale signs of chicas from estrato 1 or 2. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471550]SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.

1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.

2) Often have shoddy tatoos.

3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.

4) Can drink most of us under the table.

5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).

6) Can be very loud.

7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.

Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.[/QUOTE]Thanks, by this description, most the girls in gusto are not in this category. I don't know Spanish, so I can't tell whether my girls are using slangs or not, almost all the girls I see in Medellin has some tattoos. I can drink a lot, haven't found any girls who can out drink me yet. A girl did stole a new bottle of whiskey from me once.

I wonder if there is any correlation between Estrato and the level of services they provide. It seems like the best service is unlikely to come from the highest and the lowest estrato.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2471393]is this a sign of a girl from a relatively higher estrato?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471550]SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.

1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.

2) Often have shoddy tatoos.

3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.

4) Can drink most of us under the table.

5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).

6) Can be very loud.

7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.

Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.[/QUOTE]ColombiaLover, you saved me some time, but knocked it out of the park. My list would have been short and sweet, but I 100% agree. I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471545]What Country are you in?[/QUOTE]From and in Canada.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2471371]So the USA has the most cases in the world, and it is not Trump's fault then because the USA has the most non-compliant population in the world?

JJBee, this is not personal against you because you are not the only person who has said it, but it is asinine.

Look at the travel ban alone. The UK did practically nothing with regards to a travel ban, yet its case numbers are plummeting. The USA, Mexico, and Brazil have had partial travel bans, yet their numbers are surging. Is that because they didn't totally ban travel? If so, then what about Peru and Colombia? There was not a compliance problem with international travel, yet cases in those two countries are surging.

I read one blowhard who said that international travel was the issue with the virus spreading, and no doubt early on it was, but what do you do now? What is the perfect policy right now with regards to international travel and how much is it contributing to the spread of Covid around the world?.[/QUOTE]Why do you do this every single time? You write an entire rebuttal on a subject I haven't mentioned. It's as if you're responding to a completely different post.

A thorough lockdown on International travel, combined with aggressive testing and contact tracing, could have prevented the pandemic, if it had been done in early January. That window has closed. International travel bans now are to reduce the strain on local resources while countries attempt to get their infection rate under control.

Getting the infection rate under control is a three step process. First is to minimize the possibility of infection. Social distancing, masks, cancelling large gatherings, shutdowns. All these things work to reduce the spread. We know they work, we've seen the results.

Next step is identification. Until you get a handle on the infection rate, identification is a waste of money. Of course if you jump on identification at the first sign, you have a possibility to avoid the shutdown step It's simple, you test every suspect. Anyone positive you test all their contacts and you keep tracing contacts until you identify every infected person.

Then you isolate them. If this is all carried out diligently, most things can return to normal after about 12 weeks. Which is what we've seen in several countries. However, if you don't stay the course, you either just say "fuck it" and let it run its course, or you have to start over with a 12 week shutdown.

Everyone wants to make it political. Viruses are apolitical. They behave exactly the same regardless of geography, politics or religion. Until we start treating it like a disease instead of a way to score points, nothing is going to change.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2471390]Thanks for the information brotha Balboa; I appreciate it. In my heart, Brazil is forever the number one place for mongering. It is so good to know that Brazil will re-open soon. I miss my time in Brazil.

If I have spent 40 k in relationship development Brazil, I'm sure I will have a better experience in a penthouse in Ipanema, but this is the price we have to pay with capital investment. It is not easy to change cou.[/QUOTE]How would the experience be better in Brazil? I haven't been there.

I am glad you mentioned the booze. I totally forgot about that. They are intrigued by names and the look of the bottle. They don't know the difference in taste. Better to put Popov in a Tito's bottle.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2471561]ColombiaLover, you saved me some time, but knocked it out of the park. My list would have been short and sweet, but I 100% agree. I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471510]Have you recently woke up in the middle of the night and discovered you came while sleeping, as this sounds like a dream you had.[/QUOTE]Without getting into Freud's theory too much. I wish I am only dreaming, I can really get what I'm describing in Medellin, which explains why I'm in so much pain right now.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2471561]ColombiaLover, you saved me some time, but knocked it out of the park. My list would have been short and sweet, but I 100% agree. I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.[/QUOTE]No offense bro. The 20 years younger version of me would totally do the same. But as a person who is pushing 40, the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. The merely thought of one day when I'm in my 40's sitting in a bar talking / thinking about how I have gotten a better blowjob because I put some johnny walker red label into a blue label bottle kills me. I know everyone rolls differently, I don't mean to judge, this is my own opinion.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2471561]I also think it's funny how the girls get a taste of something they've never had in 18+ years, couldn't pick it out of a blind taste test, yet it becomes they're go-to normal. So, no need to buy they most expensive liquor, unless it's upon request. I've learned several times. You might as well buy a bottle of the most expensive, and fill it with the bottom shelf version, later.[/QUOTE]They can also taste something they have had before and not know the difference. No need to be a big shot when you can just play the big shot role and get the same results.

Years ago I went on a cruise with my friends. I brought a bottle of Bacardi Black Cherry. Of course I had to put it in a water bottle to sneak it on the boat. Why was I able to trick these chicks into believing I had Promethazine? Of course Pro-M is purple and mine was clear, but I told them I knew chemistry and was able to take the color out so I would not get busted. They thought they were getting high and we were fucking before I knew it.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2471599]No offense bro. The 20 years younger version of me would totally do the same. But as a person who is pushing 40, the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. The merely thought of one day when I'm in my 40's sitting in a bar talking / thinking about how I have gotten a better blowjob because I put some johnny walker red label into a blue label bottle kills me. I know everyone rolls differently, I don't mean to judge, this is my own opinion.[/QUOTE]

I've never done this, and it was a little tongue-in-cheek, but for our Cheap Charlies, this is easily something you could do. Imagine Blakman pouring a glass of "Ron Zacapa" with his snacks tray. I base this off many, many experiences of providing girls with alcohol they have never tasted before. For instance, when I first introduced Wifey to Tito's, no no no no no Smirnoff for me. Why? Probably because some gringo introduced her to Smirnoff, or that's what she has at her barrio DJ parties. I begged her to try Tito's. Before you know it, she's a fucking sales rep. She's telling all her friends that Tito's is so much better. They're leaving glasses of Tito's & juice or soda all over the fucking apartment. I could easily put Smirnoff in there and they'd have zero clue. I'm no liquor connoisseur, but the same can be said about wine. I forget who has reported several times about buying wine from D1. I could substitute that for my $30 bottle from Carulla, no problem. I've also had girls come over and ask for just random shit. Can I get you a drink? Ya, do you have Bailey's? WHAT? You think this is a fucking bar, or what? It reminds me of the scene in Narcos where the guy stationed in NYC brings back a bottle of Jack Daniels for one of the heads of the Cali Cartel. It could have been Evan Williams or Old Fitzgerald, with the same intended result. Remember, we're talking about low-estrato barrio girls. In short, they don't fucking know the difference between a Tito's Jell-O shot or a white vinegar Jell-O shot.

I had a repeat on Wednesday night with one of Wifey's pulls. Good times. She has a tight little body, cute face, enjoys being here, but is the same kind of leave chips and candy wrappers in the bed type. She makes masculine sounds when she's really into the sex, which is a turn-off, but otherwise it's good. Cost was about 30 k roundtrip Uber. Thursday I had a repeat of the SA girl that is just amazing, sexually. She is much more refined than the average paisa that I spend time with. We, again, enjoyed a bottle of wine and more in-depth, normal conversation. She had said she didn't want to come over because she can tell she's going to be stupid and fall for me. No jacuzzi, just steaks, wine, music, and fucking. She is the best I've had in Medellin, I think. For Round 2, she went into the bathroom and put on some sexy black lingerie. She gives amazing head, she fucks like crazy, and she has good rhythm. Some girls will over-do it and kill the rhythm. She gets wild sometimes, but she has a good sense of submission, as well. She's incredibly passionate, with a large appetite for cock. I had her face-down on the bed, hands on the floor trying not to fall off, screaming. She orgasmed from oral and sex, several times. She had to work in the morning so she was over from about 730 p to 1130 p. The only downside with her is no photos. Cost was 80 k roundtrip for taxi here, Uber back.

I'm seeing about a 50/50 as far as girls willing to go out during the weekend lockdowns. I might have Pinky come over for a couple days, starting tonight. I'm just glad I can watch some sports, this weekend.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2471550]SJobs, I imagine you know this answer, but for those who don't.

1) Often use ghetto slang Spanish.

2) Often have shoddy tatoos.

3) Often like to wear fake Gucci, Prado, Luis Vitton, etc. To make themselves feel special.

4) Can drink most of us under the table.

5) Often have not learned proper manners, including when eating (not their fault. Product of the environment).

6) Can be very loud.

7) Not necessarily well-educated, but usually very street smart and know how to take advantage of the environment, which puts most gringos at a huge disadvantage.

Obviously not all girls from strata 1 and 2 are like this, but many of them are. Meeting at least most of these criteria. This is why they stick out so bad if you were to take them to Lleras to eat or party.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SJobs;2471557]Thanks, by this description, most the girls in gusto are not in this category. I don't know Spanish, so I can't tell whether my girls are using slangs or not, almost all the girls I see in Medellin has some tattoos. I can drink a lot, haven't found any girls who can out drink me yet. A girl did stole a new bottle of whiskey from me once.

I wonder if there is any correlation between Estrato and the level of services they provide. It seems like the best service is unlikely to come from the highest and the lowest estrato.[/QUOTE]True all this about these barrio girls but every so often I find one that can be so much fun for a few hours but then don't ever think about taking one to my man cave as these girls, especially some when they get high, will become a problem as they want to continue to party and can be very annoying and even embarrassing if you brought her to your apartment.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2471687]I've never done this, and it was a little tongue-in-cheek, but for our Cheap Charlies, this is easily something you could do. Imagine Blakman pouring a glass of "Ron Zacapa" with his snacks tray. I base this off many, many experiences of providing girls with alcohol they have never tasted before. For instance, when I first introduced Wifey to Tito's, no no no no no Smirnoff for me. Why? Probably because some gringo introduced her to Smirnoff, or that's what she has at her barrio DJ parties. I begged her to try Tito's. Before you know it, she's a fucking sales rep. She's telling all her friends that Tito's is so much better. They're leaving glasses of Tito's & juice or soda all over the fucking apartment. I could easily put Smirnoff in there and they'd have zero clue. I'm no liquor connoisseur, but the same can be said about wine. I forget who has reported several times about buying wine from D1. I could substitute that for my $30 bottle from Carulla, no problem. I've also had girls come over and ask for just random shit. Can I get you a drink? Ya, do you have Bailey's? WHAT? You think this is a fucking bar, or what? It reminds me of the scene in Narcos where the guy stationed in NYC brings back a bottle of Jack Daniels for one of the heads of the Cali Cartel. It could have been Evan Williams or Old Fitzgerald, with the same intended result. Remember, we're talking about low-estrato barrio girls. In short, they don't fucking know the difference between a Tito's Jell-O shot or a white vinegar Jell-O shot.[/QUOTE]Bailey's. Now there's a flashback. One of my former regulars wanted me to get some rum for a trio. I didn't go all out, but went higher quality than necessary. I honestly don't think she had ever tasted rum before. Next time she asked for Bailey's. That's something she definitely had never tasted before.

I can tell you this, I just rented a brand new apartment in Buenos Aires area of Medellin. Three bedroom, 2 bath, and I furnished the apartment off and paid the entire rent for the full year with utilities included for under $6,000 usd. I have finally reached the bottom of what I need to live here in Medellin on a minimum income. Yesterday was the first time that I actually saw that having $50,000 pesos daily, is more than enough money to get you through 2-3 days. When I first arrived 3 years ago and I knew that I would only be here for 14 days at the most, I had no limit on the amount of silver that I would spend. Now that I do not know how long I will be here, it is a nice feeling to know that your bills are paid for an entire year and no one can ask you for anything outside the range of $100,000 pesos for maybe shoes or clothes.

Once you know, you know and there is no turning back. When these girls receive $200,000 pesos for a date, if they receive all $200,000 pesos, they have easily received enough money for the week. No one has to tell me this, because I clearly see it myself. If you have food and a place to stay, your outlook is unlimited, especially if you're earning American Money while living here in Medellin. I have decided that I will now budget around $600-$750,000 pesos a month for my living expense and that's with 3 people eating and that's 3 meals a day. It took some time to find my place but once I found it and got everything put in writing, it was a no brainer for me. I no longer have to budget for rent or anything extra. So if you are living at home with your parents and you are earning $200,000 pesos twice weekly, you are doing very well here in Medellin.

I have learned that there are many good furniture stores and glass stores in and near Prado. The Furniture is good, but rarely does anyone sell everything that you need so you really have to piece everything together from store to store. For example, example, you may have one person who sells beds, but they don't sell living room sets, they may sell living room sets, but the glass table isn't long enough to support your TV so you have to buy a customized glass top from the glass store, all in all, everything that you need to fill a 3 bedroom apartment can be found in Prado Centro. If you travel to the region about Vera Cruz near Parque Botero you can find any curtains, bed spreads, and comforter set that you need. In Centro and Carrera Junin, you can find anything you need for plates and eating utensils. I now have a real peace of mind and there is no need for my girlfriend to bug me about an apartment anymore.

I can now concentrate on who I want to bang, I get messages everyday asking for citas, but I just did not have the time to entertain anyone until I got my living arrangements satisfied. So now I can decide who I really want to bang and who can arrive on time. I really have no more than an hour or two to be away from the apartment. You live and you learn, had I known that I would be able to get an apartment for so cheap there is no way I would have wasted the amount of money I did on the first 5 months here. I am learning from the board and other resources, no matter what barrios these chicas live in, if you are in Medellin at the time and you have a minimum of $200,000 pesos to blow, you can have almost anyone of the girls you want. So it's not being a cheap charlie, it's more about knowing your surroundings and how to function within those surroundings. Everyone stay safe and bang more chicas! Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=Lugnut;2471581]How would the experience be better in Brazil? I haven't been there.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, the mongering culture in Brazil is, in general, better than anywhere on earth. I'm a frequent visitor to Rio, for me, Rio is more beautiful than Medellin, it has one of the most gorgeous landscape in the world. Girls in Brazil are hotter, crazier and the average service is better. I have yet found a girl in Brazil who doesn't offer DFK, 80% of the girls I encountered in Rio offer and enjoy anal. The termas in Rio is like the FKKs in Germany, the facility is a bit subpar compare to its German counterparts, but the passions of the girls there more than makeup for it. You can make out with a girl for hours in the club before taking her to a room. There are free lancer pick up bars and clubs on the beach, they open until 6-9 am, I love to party all night, for me, a real party should start at 2 am.

I normally spend my first week in Brazil collecting numbers from girls in termas and at mab (the go to late night pick up place in copacabana). In the second week, the party moves to my apartment, I had some amazing threesomes in Brazil. Mongering in Brazil is a bit more costly compare to Medellin, but the difference become almost invisible when compared against San Francisco. Once you establish a solid list of girls, and treating them well, the price will come down to near Medellin level (well, I should say near Poblado level). The combination of the sexiness of Brazilian Portuguese, wild and super hot girls, well established mongering venues, a beautiful beach, and the top tier international city infrastructure make Rio one of the best place on earth for me.

Medellin on the other hand, is smaller, cuter, and has the best weather on earth. You don't get the variety of girls like what you can find in Brazil, for example, in Brazil I can easily find blondes with green eyes and brunettes with blue eyes, where as in Medellin it would be a rare find. The aesthetics of Medellin as a city attracts me, I love the afternoon rain, the humbleness of the people and their good taste in music. I long for the magical feeling I get while strolling down the street in Medellin. If one spend enough time searching and building relationships with the chicas in Medellin, one can enjoy Brazil level mongering experience in this boutique and mysteriously beautiful city.

Hey,

I hope everything is fine for you there. Are you enjoying your stay? It has been quite a long time now.

I just reviewed your message and I wanted to ask:

Are you sure renting a place 6000 USD (even for the year) is a great deal? I mean, to me, it actually looks seriously expensive, send us a few photos from the appto, would'nt you mind?

Not trying to get into any inconvenient detail but, I was wondering, do you plan to stay there an entire year? I mean, even if they do open the border, I don't know, in 6 months let us say?

I would not bother re-filling bottles either. But I know the point I was making (and that I assume he was making) is that these girls do not know the difference between good liquor, wine, or beer and shit. Since I rarely drink any more (perhaps unless I go out), I don't bother buying high-end stuff for the apartment. I might get some rum and some Aguila Light. If I bring anything from the states, it's not high-end, but they don't know that. I wouldn't mind paying for something good if I thought they really could tell and appreciate the difference. For them, it's free booze, so they really don't care in the end.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2471599]No offense bro. The 20 years younger version of me would totally do the same. But as a person who is pushing 40, the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. The merely thought of one day when I'm in my 40's sitting in a bar talking / thinking about how I have gotten a better blowjob because I put some johnny walker red label into a blue label bottle kills me. I know everyone rolls differently, I don't mean to judge, this is my own opinion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471695] I honestly don't think she had ever tasted rum before. .[/QUOTE]Come on... And Ron Medellin?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2471732]I furnished the apartment off and paid the entire rent for the full year[/QUOTE]PN, apologies if you already responded, but sometimes I miss things when the delayed-approval messages start sliding into the thread. Anyway, do you already have a visa? Are you planning to apply for an extension in September?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2471802]PN, apologies if you already responded, but sometimes I miss things when the delayed-approval messages start sliding into the thread. Anyway, do you already have a visa? Are you planning to apply for an extension in September?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Interesting that he would pay for an apartment for a year in advance, and unless he already has a visa, not a tourist visa, if that's what he entered the Country on, he may have a problem getting an extension and forced to leave the Country. One thing for sure is he will be considered a "tax resident" once the clock is re-set by immigration and he has been in the Country over six months, and will be required to file with DIAN, albeit he may not owe anything. Perhaps he will explain how he is addressing all this because it sounds odd, unless he has something other then a tourist visa that he got upon arrival.

[QUOTE=SJobs;2471599], the mental burden of trying to pass cheap liquor as something more expensive is totally not worth the price differential. [/QUOTE]Well the beauty of it is that cheap liquor to us is still expensive liquor to them. So they are impressed at any price point.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471815]Interesting that he would pay for an apartment for a year in advance, and unless he already has a visa, not a tourist visa, if that's what he entered the Country on, he may have a problem getting an extension and forced to leave the Country. Perhaps he will explain how he is addressing all this because it sounds odd, unless he has something other then a tourist visa that he got upon arrival.[/QUOTE]There is nothing odd about it at all. It is the same thing that me and other friends do in Thailand. It is the same thing that my buddy has done for years in Medellin. We do not have any special visas, only tourist visas. Things are so cheap that if you travel to a place often you fare better getting an apartment on a long term lease. Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.

Because you get a place is not saying you have to stay there 8 months straight. But what I spend for a 1 year lease ($1700), some people will come drop that on a hotel for 2 weeks. My buddy's place in Prado Centro for 1 month ($250) is probably what guys come spend to stay at the Mansion for 3 or 4 days. Then he does not have to worry about lugging all kind of shit back and forth either.

[QUOTE=JohnDarkSmith;2471761]Are you sure renting a place 6000 USD (even for the year) is a great deal? I mean, to me, it actually looks seriously expensive, send us a few photos from the appto, would'nt you mind?[/QUOTE]He said the $6000 included utilities and him furnishing the place. Next year he will not have to buy furniture again and will be paying way less.

I tried renting the normal way & was told this, then I found the apartment for a year & furnished off! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471831]Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.[/QUOTE]A good Poblado penthouse with one to two bedroom, panoramic view of the city, and a jacuzzi cost about 3000 dollars per month, that is still a steal compare to California. The good ones are almost never available. A upside of the covid situation is that a lot of good penthouses are available now, for me, it make sense to sign a year lease, when I'm not in Medellin, I can very easily Airbnb it out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471831]There is nothing odd about it at all. It is the same thing that me and other friends do in Thailand. It is the same thing that my buddy has done for years in Medellin. We do not have any special visas, only tourist visas. Things are so cheap that if you travel to a place often you fare better getting an apartment on a long term lease. Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.

Because you get a place is not saying you have to stay there 8 months straight. But what I spend for a 1 year lease ($1700), some people will come drop that on a hotel for 2 weeks. My buddy's place in Prado Centro for 1 month ($250) is probably what guys come spend to stay at the Mansion for 3 or 4 days. Then he does not have to worry about lugging all kind of shit back and forth either.

He said the $6000 included utilities and him furnishing the place. Next year he will not have to buy furniture again and will be paying way less.[/QUOTE]No need to travel with luggage for a year, plus I put myself in a position to work stress free for the next 3 months. My girl knows the rent is paid for the next year, and Friday alone, I recovered more than 80% of the $6000 that I spent. For some the Quarantine has been disastrous, for me it has been a financial blessing. Pollo negro is out!

What I miss, what I miss. Anybody know the real scoop between slapshot and technically ex wifey. Most 18 year olds don't give up living in a penthouse, free gourmet dinner, top shelve liquor, tussi. You think she found out the Tito's was really smirnoff. Gimmie the scoop yall.

Blakman always blessed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471831]There is nothing odd about it at all. It is the same thing that me and other friends do in Thailand. It is the same thing that my buddy has done for years in Medellin. We do not have any special visas, only tourist visas. Things are so cheap that if you travel to a place often you fare better getting an apartment on a long term lease. Now for guys that have to have the Poblado penthouses this does not work out so well. But for guys that can stomach normal local living it works out great.

Because you get a place is not saying you have to stay there 8 months straight. But what I spend for a 1 year lease ($1700), some people will come drop that on a hotel for 2 weeks. My buddy's place in Prado Centro for 1 month ($250) is probably what guys come spend to stay at the Mansion for 3 or 4 days. Then he does not have to worry about lugging all kind of shit back and forth either.

He said the $6000 included utilities and him furnishing the place. Next year he will not have to buy furniture again and will be paying way less.[/QUOTE]Every Country's visa requirements are different, and in Colombia, you will not be allowed to stay in the Country for more than six months a year on a tourist visa, so your saying that you would rent a place year round yet plan on using it only six months a year. Makes sense for budget digs if all the utilities and cable are included, because if not, you need a Cedula to obtain service. Most guys probably aren't going to want to stay in Prado living as a local, yet for the Poblado Penthouse guys, myself included, it would seem odd to pay for something I could only be able to use six months a year, yet have to pay for a year.

I always wonder doe these events only happen to me, because many BM's seem shocked when I state what I have done and why I did it. 3 weeks ago everyone in Medellin was telling me that because I was a gringo and my girlfriend was a Vennie, we would not be allowed to rent an apartment, that I would continue to have to rent the airbnb where I am currently staying. Nothing is wrong with the place I stay now, it is just too small to accommodate everything that I was trying to do. Rumor has it, that most gringo's abuse these women and return to America then the once girlfriend has to fend for herself.

I promised my girl that I would make sure that she was good for the next year and when I am able to leave, I would return throughout the year to visit. A few facts, I have had this woman living with me since late April and I have not been poisoned, I have not been sick, I have not had any item stolen from my place and I have not contracted any STDs. So in a 4 month span, if someone cooks, cleans, wash clothes, and has sex with me when I want and how I want, out of respect, I make sure that they are financially stable for the accommodations that they have provided. Given my history with chics in Medellin, even myself, I am very surprised no one has robbed me or poisoned me because over a 3 year span, I have learned a lot about the women of Medellin.

People are people and they have many strange ideas about Americans and many Colombians and Venezuelans have a deep rooted hatred for Americans, trust me I found this out the hard way. Many of these working girls have shown me that they are just as opportunistic as people growing up in the Ghettos of America. I grew up in the Ghettos of america and I know what it is like to live hand to mouth. Many have confided in me and told me, that they all think gringos are stupid, rich, and wasteful with money. I can easily see why they think that after spending 3 years here mongering.

One of the harsh realities of being Afro-Latino is the fact that many Colombians and Venezuelans have never see wealthy Americans of color, especially if they are not actors or athletes. It doesn't make it easier if you are an American without a foreign cedula and your girlfriend is Afro-Latina Vennie without the proper documents. Colombia exploit Vennies without papers, just as America exploits blacks without education. My girlfriend and I looked for about a month before we found someone who was serious about renting us an apartment. After the paperwork was notarized and presented to me and some reliable Colombian friends of mine, the guy who the agency sent to complete the deal was so nervous when I gave him $9,000,000 pesos cash, that it was only then that these people have never seen people of color who really have money at their disposal. I told the guy that no one was going to harm him and that he was safe and we walked him to his car parked downstairs, but it was hard to realize that many of these people have never been around $3000 usd cash. It is what is though.

As a business man, I have worked in the same profession for the past 27 years, 22 of those years, I built my career and over the last 5 years, I have been at the top of my professional career. I have owned my own businesses since 2013 and I know how business works and numbers work. I came to Medellin for a Medical procedure and every penny that I have spent since I have been here will be added to that medical expense, so this all works in my favor. No matter what I spend here in Medellin, it will be contributed to my medical expense and it will probably get me my biggest income tax return ever. While living here in Medellin, I have ways to receive payment for services without it ever affecting my business numbers, so as far as income; it appears that I stopped working back in March. I have an accountant to help me with things like this. So if Colombia wants me to pay income tax on the money I earned up until March, no problem.

I am still amazed that many people act as though the world has not changed since the quarantine, it has and those of us who were ready are truly capitalizing by working from home. I work for myself from home so no one tracks my income, because I can have payments re-routed to other accounts that have nothing to do with my business or me. It has always been the American way, it has never been about how much income you make in America, it has always been about how much income they can prove you made in America. As far as Colombia goes, it looks like I only spend money in Colombia, it does not look like I earn a penny when I am here. As far as the Colombian government is concerned, I am here to have my teeth fixed and that is my original reason for coming to Colombia in March. As a good faith gesture to show many who know me from Park Botero, I want them to see, that all Americans are not here to mistreat chicas who work the streets and even when we leave and return to America it does not mean we will make every chic that we have banged suffer until we return again. I have always been the kind of guy to treat people the way that they treat me. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=JohnDarkSmith;2471761]

Are you sure renting a place 6000 USD (even for the year) is a great deal? I mean, to me, it actually looks seriously expensive, send us a few photos from the appto, would'nt you mind?[/QUOTE]That is $500 a month for a brand new 3 bedroom apartment. My HOA fee in US is more than that. Why do you think it is seriously expensive?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2471840]I tried renting the normal way & was told this, then I found the apartment for a year & furnished off! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]If you paid for the year up front you can get around a lot of the crap. If I understand correctly, the rental agent is responsible for the rent if the renter doesn't pay. Since the rental terms are usually 12 months, if a gringo signs a lease and bails after 1 month the agent is stuck paying the owner. That's why most gringos have to get a Colombian to co-sign.

Strata of the area will influence the cost of an apartment dramatically, let's say when it drops from predominantly 6 to 3; Spanish version of wiki posts all barrios and stratas (socio-economic development) and distribution within an area.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2471859]Every Country's visa requirements are different, and in Colombia, you will not be allowed to stay in the Country for more than six months a year on a tourist visa, so your saying that you would rent a place year round yet plan on using it only six months a year. Makes sense for budget digs if all the utilities and cable are included, because if not, you need a Cedula to obtain service. Most guys probably aren't going to want to stay in Prado living as a local, yet for the Poblado Penthouse guys, myself included, it would seem odd to pay for something I could only be able to use six months a year, yet have to pay for a year.[/QUOTE]But you end up paying less over time with the 1 year lease than you are paying with a month to month or day to day. For example the apartment I stay in in Thailand you can rent by the day for $16 ($480/mo). Because I have a 1 year lease I end up paying less than $5/day at $140/mo. So by having a lease, I pay the same for 1 year as I would pay for 3.5 months not having a lease. So it makes no difference if I am not here for 6 months, because at 3.5 months I have already gotten my money's worth compared with a day-to-day or month-to-month stay.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2419370]headed over to my buddy's apartment in Prado Centro. He pays US$250/month for this place. 3BR 2BA. He said the utilities are in his name except for the cable. You need a cedula for the cable because they do a credit check. He found someone with good credit and gave them 150K to put it in their name. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2471868]That is $500 a month for a brand new 3 bedroom apartment. My HOA fee in US is more than that. Why do you think it is seriously expensive?[/QUOTE]Well, to me (and this is the key here) when I put everything on balance, it looks seriously expensive, partly because I made the comparison with what I pay close to Paris (500 $ USD a month after conversion), my apartment certainly being a bit smaller, but I would still expect to pay less if I was to rent in Colombia. I realize that it depends on each person needs, and approach of the activity.

For example, if I can only stay there 6 months, then it is 6000/6 = 1000 $ a month.

I personally (also?) pay more than I would if I was trying to restrain to the minimum.

Hey, actually I was trying to figure out the reason why 6000 $ a year was a great deal, now I think I have a clearer view, I have just had a small discussion with PN who shared a few details with me.

Have a nice day guys, and please post reports!

Within sections of medellin the estrata can vary. As for example, Envigado has approximately 20% in Estrada 5 and 20% in Estrada 2. All depends on the location of the building. Like anywhere else the price of real estate is dependent on location and location and location. I was interested in getting a lease just before the pandemic but obviously now I have to wait. The real estate agent that I normally go thru for short time apartments was going to work with me on that. At the time 550 USD per month was doable in laureles. Everyone has different requirements. For me it is a quiet area near a gym and parks. AC is a must and strong reliable Wi-Fi. Above all safety. I stay in residential areas where I walk out at night to eat or watch a movie with a girlfriend. Never had any issues or felt unsafe. If I can not go out at night in the section I am in, I don't want it. In order to determine if a place is a good deal or not you need to know the exact location.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2471868]That is $500 a month for a brand new 3 bedroom apartment. My HOA fee in US is more than that. Why do you think it is seriously expensive?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2471906]But you end up paying less over time with the 1 year lease than you are paying with a month to month or day to day. For example the apartment I stay in in Thailand you can rent by the day for $16 ($480/mo). Because I have a 1 year lease I end up paying less than $5/day at $140/mo. So by having a lease, I pay the same for 1 year as I would pay for 3.5 months not having a lease. So it makes no difference if I am not here for 6 months, because at 3.5 months I have already gotten my money's worth compared with a day-to-day or month-to-month stay.[/QUOTE]Perfect logic, I agree, but Thailand isn't Colombia, and for higher end rentals in Medellin, you will not be getting a nice apartment in either Poblado or Laueles at 33% of the daily rate if you rent by the year. To further compound things, unless someone living in a rented apartment has a Colombian Cedula, they will not be able to get utilities. Anyone in Colombia who does not have a Cedula, meaning a foreigner, will be in the Country on a tourist visa, so they will have to find an apartment that includes utilities and cable and that will drive the monthly cost up. I don't know how things work in Thailand, but I'm guessing that you pay for your utilities separately as I know you need AC there.

Right now in Medellin due to the Pandemic, there are luxury Penthouses renting as low as 50 to 60 % of the pre-pandemic rates, but none of the owners are renting at 1/3 of the pre-pandemic rates. Owners of apartments have monthly association or management fees if there are Portero's, along with cable and electrical services, and property taxes. So renting at 1/3 might be a viable option to just cover operating costs, but it's unlikely you will find an owner who used to get $ 3,000 a month for a Penthouse dropping his price to a $ 1,000 a month for a years lease.

Now when it comes to apartments in the lower strata neighborhoods of Medellin, apartments without AC and basic TIGO cable, and no building administrators, I can see the rates being 1/3 for a years lease as you have described, so no argument that you can save money leasing for a year when it comes to living like a local in a lower strata neighborhood.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2471980]Within sections of medellin the estrata can vary. As for example, Envigado has approximately 20% in Estrada 5 and 20% in Estrada 2. All depends on the location of the building. Like anywhere else the price of real estate is dependent on location and location and location. I was interested in getting a lease just before the pandemic but obviously now I have to wait. The real estate agent that I normally go thru for short time apartments was going to work with me on that. At the time 550 USD per month was doable in laureles. Everyone has different requirements. For me it is a quiet area near a gym and parks. AC is a must and strong reliable Wi-Fi. Above all safety. I stay in residential areas where I walk out at night to eat or watch a movie with a girlfriend. Never had any issues or felt unsafe. If I can not go out at night in the section I am in, I don't want it. In order to determine if a place is a good deal or not you need to know the exact location.[/QUOTE]Very true and somewhat perplexing as to how they determine Estrata levels in Medellin. I don't know the percentages, but in the Manila barrio in Poblado, there are apartments that are Estrata 4, and the same applies in the Patio Bonito barrio in Poblado where there is a mix of Estrata 5 and 6 apartments. Besides location as you mentioned I also believe the age of the building is a factor that is used as well.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2471779]Come on... And Ron Medellin?[/QUOTE]J2 bee knows all Colombians have tried rum, perhaps he was having a rum and coke when writing his post, and mean't to say gin or something else, but I don't think rum.

Does anyone know about or have first hand experience of having 2 passports and living abroad?

For example, I have a USA Passport and am a citizen of a second country in Europe (so 2 passports total).

Therefore, has anyone done this before to live in Colombia for a year?

For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.

Cheers.

Not sure if any of this is new and different from WT's lists but found this on a local Medellin forum so thought I'd share. The links did not copy / paste so, sorry for that!!

Dating Houses, Reserved in Medellin.

Club de Amigas Sexy.

Address: Carrera 45 the, between streets 57 and 58.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS), 10 AM to 4 PM (DO-FE).

Rates: $ 50,000 (30 minutes), $ 80,000 (1 hour).

Go to Sexy Friends Page in.

New Life.

Directory Address: Calle 56, between races 43 and 44.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Rates: $ 50,000 (30 minutes), $ 80,000 (1 hour).

Go to New Life Page in.

Zandaly Directory.

Address: Carrera 47, between 57 A and 58 streets.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Rates: $ 35,000 (30 minutes), $ 65,000 (1 hour).

Go toPage Zandaly Directory.

Aiffe.

Address: Calle 57, between races 43 and 44.

Hours: 10 am to 7 pm (LS).

Fees: $ 40,000 (30 minutes), $ 70,000 (1 hour).

Safari (ex Andromeda).

Address: Carrera 46 (Av. Oriental), at curve 57 A (it is a building).

Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Turcos Paradise.

Address: Calle 54, between races 42 and 43, Downtown.

Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Chicas Punto Com.

Address: Calle 54 (Caracas), between streets 49 and 50,2nd floor.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Pamela's (ex-Paisa Relax).

Address: Carrera 45 (El Palo), # 57-71.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Casa Barcelona.

Address: Calle 59, # 50-12 (behind CES Clinic).

Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (MS).

Club Iris.

Address: Calle 65, # 52-73.

Hours: 10 PM to 2 AM (JS).

Info: they are ladies who come from others reserved.

Fantasias Energy.

Address: Carrera 74, between 49th and 50th streets, Barrio Estadio.

Hours: 10 AM to 9 PM (LS).

Rates: $ 130,000 (30 minutes), $ 160,000 (1 hour).

Go to Fantasias Energy Directory Page.

Ardientes Gatitas.

Address: Carrera 80 with calle 32 the (it is a building).

Hours: 1 PM to 7 PM (MS).

Abydos.

Address: Avenida 33, entre Carrera 64 and 65, Conquistadores.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Rates: $ 60,000 (30 minutes), $ 120,000 (1 hour).

Manos de Seda.

Address: Calle 30, between Carrera 72 and 73, Beland.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (LS).

Rates: $ 50,000 (30 minutes), $ 80,000 (1 hour).

Girls Club.

Address: Carrera 70, between 25th and 26th streets (near the Airport).

Hours: 24 hours (LS).

Loutron Club.

Address: Calle 16 A Sur, # 9 e-500, LOS Balsos.

Hours: 10 AM to 11 PM (LJ).

Rates: $ 160,000 (30 minutes), $ 220,000 (1 hour).

Bars, Whiskerias, Night Clubs in Medellin.

Nightclub San Diego Show.

Address: Carrera 43 A, # 36-35, Local 104.

Hours: 10 PM to 3 AM (MS).

Go to Page of San Diego Show in Directory.

Disco Fase 2.

Address: Carrera 44, # 30-15, Barrio Colombia.

Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (MS).

Go to Phase 2 Page in.

Club El Faizand.

Directory Address: Calle 36, # 46-08,2nd floor.

Hours: 3 AM to 6 AM (JS).

Info: they are ladies who come from other bars, they open late.

Apotheosis Nightclub.

Address: Calle 44 (San Juan), 73-58.

Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (JS).

Nightclub Luna Lunera.

Address: Avenida 33, # 63 be-215, Conquistadores.

Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (MS).

La Barra Ejecutiva.

Address: Calle 53, # 49-70, Centro.

Hours: 11 AM to 11 PM (MS).

Maracaibo Bar Show.

Address: Calle 53, # 49-82, Centro.

Hours: 11 AM to 11 PM (MS).

Conejitas Bar Show.

Address: Calle 53, # 51-41, Centro.

Hours: 6 PM to 1 AM (MS).

Grill Occidental.

Address: Carrera 52, # 53-158, Centro.

Hours: 6 PM to 2 AM (MS).

Taberna Victoria.

Address: Calle 53, # 52 A-26, Centro.

Hours: 7 PM to 2 AM (MS).

Bar Taberna Montijo.

Address: Diagonal 50, # 49-15, Centro.

Hours: 2 PM to 1 AM (LS).

Grill Nueva Avenida.

Address: Calle 53, # 51-18, Centro.

Hours: 6 PM to 2 AM (MS).

Boulevard del Norte (ex La Pega).

Address: Carrera 64 see, # 74-68.

Hours: 6 PM to 1 AM (MS).

La Isla Club.

Address: Carrera 28, # 19 A-97 (Km 5, Via Las Palmas).

Hours: 8 PM to 3 AM (MS).

Massage Centers, Spas in Medellin.

Oriental Spa Medellin.

Address: Calle 49 be, between races 77 A and 77 be, Stadium.

Hours: 11 AM to 8 PM (LS).

Go to Oriental Spa Page in Directory.

Tantra Spa Where my King.

Address: Carrera 80 with 44 be, La Amrica.

Hours: 11 AM to 10 PM (MS).

Mandalay Spa.

Address: Carrera 81 see, between Calle 49 F and 50, Calasanz.

Hours: 2 PM to 7 PM (MS).

Phone: 3024502139.

Sala Rostros.

Address: Street 43, between races 68 A and 69, San Joaquin.

Hours: 11 AM to 7 PM (MS).

Kaori Spa.

Address: Carrera 79, between 48 be and 49 streets, Estadio.

Hours: 10 AM to 6 PM (MS).

Spa Angels Men's.

Address: Carrera 80 near Exito, Laureles.

Hours: 10 AM to 7 PM (MS).

The Secret Spa.

Address: Carrera 70 A, between 43 and 44 streets. Laureles.

Hours: 11 AM to 8 PM (MS).

Sala Imperio Erotico VIP.

Address: 32 F Street, between races 65 see and 65 the.

Hours: 10:30 AM to 7 PM (LS), 12 M to 6 PM (DO).

Rates: Ask.

Erotic Spa.

Address: Carrera 29 the with 7 A street, Poblado.

Hours: 2 PM to 6 PM (JS).

Jade Palace.

Address: Carrera 38, between 10th and 10th streets, Poblado.

Hours: 11 AM to 8 PM (MS).

Swingers Clubs in Medellin.

Swinger Club La Piscina.

Address: Calle 52, # 73-46, Cuarta Brigada.

Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).

Casa del Guru Swinger Club.

Address: Avenida 80 with calle 43, Laureles Lorena.

Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (JS).

Open Mind Club Swinger.

Address: Calle 30, # 55-153, Conquistadores.

Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).

Lili Club Swinger.

Address: Carrera 44, # 25-45, Barrio Colombia.

Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).

Dreams Swinger Club.

Address: Carrera 44, # 26-02, Barrio Colombia.

Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).

Elite Swinger Club.

Address: Diagonal 74 be, # 32 the-15, Laureles.

Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (MS).

Swinger Bello Club.

Address: Carrera 52, # 32-36,4th floor, Beautiful.

Hours: 7 PM to 12 PM (JS).

Street *s in Medellin.

Callejeras CC San Diego.

Address: Carrera 45 with calle 34, sides of CC San Diego.

Hours: usually after 10 PM.

Callejeras Parque Bolivar.

Address: Surroundings of Bolivar Park.

Hours: usually between 10 AM to 10 PM.

Callejeras Parque San Antonio.

Address: Surroundings from San Antonio park.

Hours: usually between 5 PM to 10 PM.

Callejeros Parque de Berrio.

Address: Around Berrio park.

Hours: usually between 10 AM to 10 PM.

Callejeras Metro Prado Station.

Address: Around Prado Station Metro.

Hours: usually between 5 PM at 11 PM.

Callejeros El Raudal.

Address: Calle 53 (Avenida De Greiff) with Carrera 54.

Hours: usually after 8 AM.

Callejeros Parque Lleras.

Address: Carrera 40 between 9th and 10th streets.

Hours: Usually after 8 PM (JS).

Sala Villanueva Cine Erotico.

Address: Carrera 51, # 54-4, Centro.

Hours: 1 PM to 8 PM (LS).

Admission fee: $ 6,000.

Sinfonia Sala Erotico Cinema.

Address: Carrera 47, # 53-29, Centro.

Hours: 1 PM to 8 PM (LS).

Admission fee: $ 6,000.

Callejeras Carrera 52.

Address: Carrera 52, from calle 51 to 54.

Hours: usually between 8 AM to 11 PM.

Callejeras Carrera 53.

Address: Carrera 53, from Calle 51 to 54.

Hours: usually between 8 AM to 11 PM.

Callejeras Calle 54.

Address: Calle 54, from Carrera 47 to 51.

Hours: Usually between 10 AM to 11 PM.

Callejeras Parque de las Luces.

Address: Calle 44 (Avenida San Juan) in front of Alcaldia de Medelland.

Hours: usually between 10 AM to 10 PM.

Callejeras Mayorista Itagui.

Address: Calle 85, from Carrera 48 to 52 the.

Hours: usually after 10 PM (JS).

Callejeras Plaza Minorista.

Address: Carrera 57 between streets 57 and 58.

Hours: usually after 8 PM (JS).

Info: it is a care area.

Hotels, Motels in Medellin.

Executive Motel la 33.

Address: Avenida 33 # 63 be-201, Conquistadores.

Motel Thematic Luxury.

Address: Calle 34, # 64-57, Conquistadores.

Hotel Colonial.

Address: Carrera 81, # 34 A- 128.

Hotel Lobby.

Address: Carrera 81, # 34 A-96.

Hotel Temtico San Juan.

Address: Calle 44 (Avenida San Juan), # 80-47.

Motel Thematic Suites.

Address: Calle 51, # 67 be-27.

Motel 3 the Suites.

Address: Calle 51, # 69-47.

Motel LOS Colores.

Address: Carrera 51, # 72 A-13.

Motel Jardand del Amor.

Address: Carrera 51, # 73-90.

Hotel San Juan 70.

Address: Calle 44 (Av. San Juan), # 70-137.

Hotel the'Lusso.

Address: Calle 50 (Av. Colombia), # 68-38.

Hotel Gran Colombia.

Address: Calle 50, # 76-115, Estadio.

Eros Hotel.

Address: Calle 54, # 54-31, Centro.

Noches Divinas Hotel.

Address: Carrera 53, # 50-50, Centro.

Exotic Hotel.

Address: Calle 55, # 52-48 , Center.

Hotel Gold.

Address: Carrera 45, # 50-23, Centro.

Hotel Momentos Plaza.

Address: Calle 49, # 43-62, Centro.

Hotel Mansiand.

Address: Carrera 43, # 53-38, Centro.

Motel Penthouse.

Address: Calle 63, # 115-51, San Cristobal.

Motel Las Cabaas.

Address: Calle 14, # 43 F-65, Poblado.

Hotel Central Plaza.

Address: Carrera 50 A, # 81 A-15, Itagui.

Motel Ibiza Lounge.

Address: Carrera 42, # 79-39, Itagui.

Motel Invegas.

Address: Calle 52 Sur, # 43 A-95, Sabaneta.

Motel La Suite.

Address: Carrera 55 with calle 87 Sur, La Estrella.

Motel Los Dos.

Address: Carrera 55,80 sur- 206, La Estrella.

Motel 40 Grados.

Address: Carrera 50, # 88 a Sur-145, La Estrella.

Motel LOS Chalets.

Address: Calle 80 Sur, # 55-71, La Estrella.

Motel El Bosque.

Address: Calle 80 Sur, # 55-115, La Estrella.

Motel Monaco.

Address: Carrera 50, # 91 Sur-45, Itagui.

Motel Aries.

Address: Carrera 50, # 79 see Sur 43, La Estrella.

Motel Princess.

Address: Calle 46, # 69-67, Copacabana.

Motel Paraso.

Address: Diagonal 53, # 14-66 , Bello.

Motel Eclipse.

Address: Diagonal 53, # 14-20, Bello.

Hotel Habibi.

Address: Carrera 50, # 32-13, Bello.

Motel Complicidades.

Address: Diagonal 52, # 12-43, Bello.

Motel El Descanso del Amor.

Address: Autopista Medelland-Bogot, Km. 4.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471576]A thorough lockdown on International travel, combined with aggressive testing and contact tracing, could have prevented the pandemic, if it had been done in early January. That window has closed. International travel bans now are to reduce the strain on local resources while countries attempt to get their infection rate under control.

Getting the infection rate under control is a three step process. First is to minimize the possibility of infection. Social distancing, masks, cancelling large gatherings, shutdowns. All these things work to reduce the spread. We know they work, we've seen the results.

Next step is identification. Until you get a handle on the infection rate, identification is a waste of money. Of course if you jump on identification at the first sign, you have a possibility to avoid the shutdown step It's simple, you test every suspect. Anyone positive you test all their contacts and you keep tracing contacts until you identify every infected person.

Then you isolate them. If this is all carried out diligently, most things can return to normal after about 12 weeks. Which is what we've seen in several countries. However, if you don't stay the course, you either just say "fuck it" and let it run its course, or you have to start over with a 12 week shutdown.

Everyone wants to make it political. Viruses are apolitical. They behave exactly the same regardless of geography, politics or religion. Until we start treating it like a disease instead of a way to score points, nothing is going to change.[/QUOTE]Finally someone else says something sensible about this on ISG! Those of us who live outside the US are generally amazed at how idiotic Americans-especially the federal government leaders are being with all this.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2471848]What I miss, what I miss. Anybody know the real scoop between slapshot and technically ex wifey. Most 18 year olds don't give up living in a penthouse, free gourmet dinner, top shelve liquor, tussi. You think she found out the Tito's was really smirnoff. Gimmie the scoop yall.

Blakman always blessed.[/QUOTE]Hahahahaaaaaa he's BACK! No way you RTFF since your departure! How's life in the US? I think we just reached a point where I was annoyed telling her to do the same shit, she was annoyed not getting paid and getting my grief. I don't know. Probably for the best. I'm pretty sure she'd come over if I asked. I don't pay attention to zodiac signs, but we're the same, and sometimes it shows. Stubborn and will leave without a moment's notice.

Pinky came over last night. I made dinner for myself, because she ate before coming, and then was watching sports on tv. She had messaged her friend asking what she was up to. The friend responded around 1-2 a. At that point, we had been in the jacuzzi for hours, and had finished Round 1. She asked if her friend could stop by. I didn't really want her to, but I thought whatever, I can always just go to bed if I want. So, her friend arrives at 3 a. They change the music vibe, and the friend is dancing in the jacuzzi. Pinky found a bikini that I told her was left here and holy fuck she looked good. So, the dancing turns into lap dancing, and that turns into slipping the bikini bottoms to the side. I couldn't get it in the friend, though. She's petite, tomboy, but cute dimples, and little athlete type body. She goes to use the bathroom, and Pinky hops on for a ride. We decide to go to the bedroom. The friend tries to jump right on in cowgirl, but I tell her to suck it first. As she does, Pinky joins and sits on my face. Then, the friend gets on top, no condom. She was riding much better than I expected. Pinky orgasmed and then laid next to us. I had the friend squat over me so I could pound her, then flipped her over, and finished on her back. We all went to bed about an hour later. I got them an Uber, and paid Pinky's rent for the month (300 k). Pinky brought over a gram of tussi (70 k), so all-in-all I paid about 330 k for the bareback threesome, 2 pops, and a free bag. Smirnoff ices consumed makes it a wash.

Pinky had said she was bored, so she invited her friend. I asked he what she'd be doing if she was at home, and she said the same. Playing on her phone. I guess, you mix in a jacuzzi and some free drinks, and you can more easily changed boredom to a little fiesta. A good night, and I was very happily surprised by the friend's performance. I'll leave a couple Pinky photos so you understand what I mean about her bikini rental.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2471885]If you paid for the year up front you can get around a lot of the crap. If I understand correctly, the rental agent is responsible for the rent if the renter doesn't pay. Since the rental terms are usually 12 months, if a gringo signs a lease and bails after 1 month the agent is stuck paying the owner. That's why most gringos have to get a Colombian to co-sign.[/QUOTE]No owner or agent will get burnt by a gringo or co-signer entering a 12 month lease as they will require a security deposit, and will require to be paid in advance for the rent at least a couple of months ahead or if not in full like our other poster, versus the rent being paid monthly, hence if a gringo departs early, they won't be out of pocket any money. One of the issues for a gringo though will be getting utilities in their name if they don't have a Cedula, thus requiring a Colombian to do so for them if the utilities are not included which typically is not the case with long term rentals. So if a gringo has a Colombian sign up for utilities with EPM and either CLARO or TIGO and bails not paying the bills, guess what, the Colombian won't be able to get service in their name in the future until the bills are paid by them.

[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2472011]Does anyone know about or have first hand experience of having 2 passports and living abroad?

For example, I have a USA Passport and am a citizen of a second country in Europe (so 2 passports total).

Therefore, has anyone done this before to live in Colombia for a year?

For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Theoretically this should work, albeit I don't have any personal experience with it, however you won't be issued a visa for 180 days upon arrival but for 90 days and will need to extend it while in Country and then do this again upon departing and returning using your other Passport. However, I don't know what kind of information is in Colombia's immigration databases, meaning perhaps when an American Passport # is entered in the system whether it is noted whether the individual is a dual Citizen with another Country. Hopefully there's another member who knows the answer to your question.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2472032]

Pinky came over last night. [/QUOTE]Nice report! Good to a meaningful post amongst all the BS.

[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2472011]Does anyone know about or have first hand experience of having 2 passports and living abroad?

For example, I have a USA Passport and am a citizen of a second country in Europe (so 2 passports total).

Therefore, has anyone done this before to live in Colombia for a year?

For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I was also wondering this! I have a dual citizenship and would be stoked if this gave me the opportunity to easily get more time in Colombia.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2472110]I was also wondering this! I have a dual citizenship and would be stoked if this gave me the opportunity to easily get more time in Colombia.[/QUOTE]It is easier to file the correct paperwork and be in the country legally, rather than try and go around loops. Doing it right the first time saves money and embarrassment. I stood in line for 3 hours to buy a $30,000 pesos runt. The runt allows you to buy a car or motorcycle, without it, you'll have to put it in someone else's name. Buy a Motorcycle and it's in your name, and someone has access to it while you are in the US and they get a ticket, when you arrive to Colombia you go straight to the slammer until the fine has been resolved. Going around the Bush in Colombia may not what you want to do. It takes about 60 days to get a driver's license in Colombia, so, take the time to read the paperwork and file for a foreign ID and the correct kind of visa and you can come and go as you please. 2 passports may work, but having a Colombian ID and permission to be here will be so much easier. Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2472032]Hahahahaaaaaa he's BACK! No way you RTFF since your departure! How's life in the US? I think we just reached a point where I was annoyed telling her to do the same shit, she was annoyed not getting paid and getting my grief. I don't know. Probably for the best. I'm pretty sure she'd come over if I asked. I don't pay attention to zodiac signs, but we're the same, and sometimes it shows. Stubborn and will leave without a moment's notice.

Pinky came over last night. I made dinner for myself, because she ate before coming, and then was watching sports on tv. She had messaged her friend asking what she was up to. The friend responded around 1-2 a. At that point, we had been in the jacuzzi for hours, and had finished Round 1. She asked if her friend could stop by. I didn't really want her to, but I thought whatever, I can always just go to bed if I want. So, her friend arrives at 3 a. They change the music vibe, and the friend is dancing in the jacuzzi. Pinky found a bikini that I told her was left here and holy fuck she looked good. So, the dancing turns into lap dancing, and that turns into slipping the bikini bottoms to the side. I couldn't get it in the friend, though. She's petite, tomboy, but cute dimples, and little athlete type body. She goes to use the bathroom, and Pinky hops on for a ride. We decide to go to the bedroom. The friend tries to jump right on in cowgirl, but I tell her to suck it first. As she does, Pinky joins and sits on my face. Then, the friend gets on top, no condom. She was riding much better than I expected. [/QUOTE]Hats-off to you with trying to keep all the opinions about the virus and political nonsense on point, which is pussy!

The guys who spend so much time debating must have to much time on their hands and must not be here in Medellin.

Like the cutie in your photos, now that's on point and now understand why so much talk is all about nothing as when us Medellin based guys have things like this to play with at anytime we want all the other stuff is simply noise.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2472017]Not sure if any of this is new and different from WT's lists but found this on a local Medellin forum so thought I'd share. The links did not copy / paste so, sorry for that!!
[/QUOTE]There is a Medellin List here has the up to date info. Based on some of the out of date prices, I think the list you have is quite old.

[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2472011]For example, enter with one passport (stay for 180 days), leave next door for a day (I. E. Ecuador, etc.); and then return to Colombia with your second passport and stay another 180 days.[/QUOTE]I thought something like that before. I am from Georgia and my best friend is from Texas. One school break we went down to his house and I got a Texas drivers license. From then on when I got pulled over in Georgia I would use my Texas license and never pay the tickets. Finally I went legit. 5 years later I got pulled over and used my Georgia license. Well I thought the system went by license numbers, but it went by name. I had a bench warrant out for my arrest due to unpaid tickets from way back when. So I was hauled off to jail. These days there is even face recognition software, so trying something like that in immigration is less likely to work than it may have been before.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2472053]One of the issues for a gringo though will be getting utilities in their name if they don't have a Cedula, thus requiring a Colombian to do so for them if the utilities are not included which typically is not the case with long term rentals. [/QUOTE]I posted before that the only utility my buddy was not able to get in his name was the cable due to him not having a Colombian ID, because they do a credit check. He found someone with good credit and gave them 150K to put his cable in their name. Everything else you don't need the Colombian ID for.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2472156]I posted before that the only utility my buddy was not able to get in his name was the cable due to him not having a Colombian ID, because they do a credit check. He found someone with good credit and gave them 150 K to put his cable in their name. Everything else you don't need the Colombian ID for.[/QUOTE]Actually to have a credit check done on you in Colombia, not only do you need to have a Colombian ID, a cedula, but you also have to register with Experian in Colombia so that they can track you and develop a credit score for you as the Cedula is used for tracking. I know it sounds odd, but this is how it works in Colombia. As an example, if a Colombian doesn't pay a utility company, it will show up on the database for the Cedula. A Colombian Cedula not only is an ID, but also is like a social security number for citizens and others.

And as far as not needing a Colombian ID, well EPM the utility provider requires one and will not accept a foreign Passport, at least that has been my experience, and others I know in Medellin. So perhaps utilities are included in your buddy's apartment which typically is the case in the lower budget apartments because the units are not typically separately metered.

Basically, without a Cedula in Colombia you are very limited as to what you can do such as opening a bank account, obtaining a Colombian credit card, among other things. The other board members living in Medellin not stuck there because of the Pandemic can attest to what I am saying.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2456702]I feel you. I agree. I love the Sosua vibe as far as the atmosphere / environment and the talent age. I love the ocean and things to do around the beach.

[/QUOTE]Heading down to El Centro today. Thinking about hitting Sosua in October for some beach time and a change of pace.

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