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[QUOTE=Breadman; 1307891]And what would the situation be if the guy who got BBFS went on and saw a favorite girl of yours? She just blew a guy who had BBFS only an hour or two before, what's the take on this? Reason I'm bringing this up here is my 'take' on the decline of the Bernds lineup. They used to have a nice mix of girls there, something for everyone. On my last visit (and from reports on this board) it seems the talent has declined significantly. I enjoy my trips to the clubs but really don't want to take home something extra to remember a girl if at all possible. If a club is known for AO then it seems guys who like that service tend to frequent those types of clubs. Its only logical to assume that more people in one club partaking in AO increase's the chance of someone carrying a disease and passing it along.

The question is this: you as a regualar hobbiest, would you still visit a club after learning that half the women performed AO (bareback full service)? Personally I don't doubt it happens in the larger clubs, have to believe its not as often as say Bernds.[/QUOTE]Here is an example how one, probably unvoluntarily, starts a "rumour".

Bernds, a club where half the girls offer AO? Any proof? Statistics?

I, for once, was offered AO in Palace, as well as Oase. Does it makee those clubs AO clubs?

Soon the whole of ISG will think of Bernds as an AO club. Unfair and untrue.

And with regards with quality of girls, Bernds has never been, and will never be an optofuck club, and that is fine to many of us. There is no recent decrease in quality, the quslity remains what it has always been, with a mix of young and MILfs most 6=7, providing constant outstanding services. I certainly understand that those wanting large numbers of 7 and above should go elsewhere. But to rubbish this club's reputation through the Ao fals rumour is not very nice.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1307988]Here is an example how one, probably unvoluntarily, starts a "rumour".

Bernds, a club where half the girls offer AO? Any proof? Statistics?

I, for once, was offered AO in Palace, as well as Oase. Does it makee those clubs AO clubs?

Soon the whole of ISG will think of Bernds as an AO club. Unfair and untrue.

And with regards with quality of girls, Bernds has never been, and will never be an optofuck club, and that is fine to many of us. There is no recent decrease in quality, the quslity remains what it has always been, with a mix of young and MILfs most 6=7, providing constant outstanding services. I certainly understand that those wanting large numbers of 7 and above should go elsewhere. But to rubbish this club's reputation through the Ao fals rumour is not very nice.[/QUOTE]The whole point is Bernds isn't an AO club yet. But its pretty obvious a good percentage of the girls offer this service (and not just to regulars) and the way you pay at the end of the night, management has to know its going on. Yes, AO happens at other clubs but as soon as management finds out, the girl is out the door. The clubs reputation is already tarnished by allowing this to continue.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1307891]And what would the situation be if the guy who got BBFS went on and saw a favorite girl of yours? She just blew a guy who had BBFS only an hour or two before, what's the take on this? Reason I'm bringing this up here is my 'take' on the decline of the Bernds lineup. They used to have a nice mix of girls there, something for everyone. On my last visit (and from reports on this board) it seems the talent has declined significantly. I enjoy my trips to the clubs but really don't want to take home something extra to remember a girl if at all possible. If a club is known for AO then it seems guys who like that service tend to frequent those types of clubs. Its only logical to assume that more people in one club partaking in AO increase's the chance of someone carrying a disease and passing it along.

The question is this: you as a regualar hobbiest, would you still visit a club after learning that half the women performed AO (bareback full service)? Personally I don't doubt it happens in the larger clubs, have to believe its not as often as say Bernds.[/QUOTE]Of course AO will be offered sporadically, it is human nature. As far as blowing a guy who had BBFS, the timing is not so much the issue as the kind of guy who goes for BBFS. AO without a doubt increases the chance of "take home gifts" and the people who would partake in that are of course higher risk in general. I don't condone it, but there is zero doubt in my mind that it is available at Fkk's and elsewhere. To answer your question, I would not go to a club where I knew AO was commonplace.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1307974]Germany's eonomy is export driven. So a weaker euro slows it down as German good get more expensive. But we don't export pussy. For now.

HB[/QUOTE]Don't mean to be pedantic or academic, but perhaps by accident or typo, this is backwards. Weaker Euro hugely beneficial to German exports as it makes them cheaper. In fact some feel weaker Euro might be key to sorting out the whole debt mess (see [url]http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/63848d68-d578-11e1-af40-00144feabdc0.html[/url]). The slight downside is it makes imports (e. G. Oil) more costly. It would increase sex tourism by Yanks and Brits to the Pussy (Vater) land.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1308168]Don't mean to be pedantic or academic. It would increase sex tourism by Yanks and Brits to the Pussy (Vater) land.[/QUOTE]LOL: Getting rid of some of the "Yanks" who insist it's okay to vastly overpay for DFK and other standard elements, like the correct session time, etc, might not be such a bad thing after all. :)

The Pussy (Vater) land: That's a superb phrase, bravo! But don't you really mean: the Pussy (Opa) land?

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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1307865]Admin told me anyone over 100 posts can't change name. Anyway my new name reminds me of the mars voyager but I am instead searching the globe for the hottest hotties and not old rocks![/QUOTE]Appologies StarletVoyager, I have obviously missed that particular restriction in the extensive FAQ section.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1307766]We've seen exchange rates from 0. 88 to 1. 58 US-$ for 1 EUR. Price for half an hour at a German FKK have been 50 EUR all the way through. Why should that depend on the exchange rate to the dollar? I get paid in EUR. I pay the girls in EUR. The take EUR back to their home countries, mostly EE.

HB[/QUOTE]Sorry. Didn't mean to imply that it was driven only by the dollar. My follow up post on this should have explained it. As long as the EE's currencies are underperforming the Euro. There's really no problem. But when (if) the EE's start to outperform the Euro. Then the girls will be taking less money home after they exchange for their local currencies. This isn't the case just yet. Since I checked yesterday and most EE's are still falling faster than Euro.

[QUOTE=Arctic;1308245]As long as the EE's currencies are underperforming the Euro. There's really no problem. But when (if) the EE's start to outperform the Euro. Then the girls will be taking less money home after they exchange for their local currencies.[/QUOTE]The EE exchange rate is irrelevant. An average office or shop worker in Romania is taking home €150 a month (according to an adorable Romi at Oase). She can make that in an hour on a good day. It will take them decades to get anywhere near the Euro or DM (should it return).

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1308168]Don't mean to be pedantic or academic, but perhaps by accident or typo, this is backwards. Weaker Euro hugely beneficial to German exports as it makes them cheaper. In fact some feel weaker Euro might be key to sorting out the whole debt mess (see.

[url]http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/63848d68-d578-11e1-af40-00144feabdc0.html[/url]

). The slight downside is it makes imports (e. G. Oil) more costly. It would increase sex tourism by Yanks and Brits to the Pussy (Vater) land.[/QUOTE]HB is a bit more correct.

You are right for a single currency for a single country, but the Euro is a single currency for multiple countries, all of which have varying levels of competitiveness. Right now Germany is a powerhouse and it's competitiveness is off the scale compared to the rest of the EU. Germany is saddled right now with an undervalued currency in the EU since it doesn't reflect the state of the German economy or productivity. The article you cite is pretty correct in many respects, German exports would go up and wages would go up also. However, if the EU devalues by 10 percent in a year and wages increase by 5%. Then you're still 5% in the hole on wages.

Here's another article arguing for Germany to leave the Euro. [url]http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/30/opinion/prestowitz-prout-germany-eurozone/index.html[/url]

If Germany reissued the DM. It would immediately appreciate and dwarf everything in Europe. And the US I think. You'd have no problems getting the prettiest EE women into the FKK's to earn those highly valued DM's. It would be a golden age for FKK.

[QUOTE=Macca 74;1308253]The EE exchange rate is irrelevant. An average office or shop worker in Romania is taking home €150 a month (according to an adorable Romi at Oase). She can make that in an hour on a good day. It will take them decades to get anywhere near the Euro or DM (should it return).[/QUOTE]It's not irrelevant. If the RON were to appreciably outperform the Euro. One could simply start opening FKK's in Romania and the girls would work for the higher currency there.

EDIT: That is ... if prostitution were legal in Romania - which it isn't yet.

[QUOTE=Arctic;1308256]It's not irrelevant. If the RON were to appreciably outperform the Euro. One could simply start opening FKK's in Romania and the girls would work for the higher currency there.[/QUOTE]It's totally irrelevant. It's practically a third world economy. Hardly any infrastructure or manufacturing. It will never be an economic super-power. The people there earn approximately 10 times less a month than the average German. Seriously, how much do you think the world's second largest currency will devalue? Does logic or common-sense come into it, at all?

Arctic, if you know there is going to be a massive oil or gold find in Romania in the very near future which will totally transform the economy, then I hope you will let your friends on here know.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1307891]And what would the situation be if the guy who got BBFS went on and saw a favorite girl of yours? She just blew a guy who had BBFS only an hour or two before, what's the take on this?

Yep, It Has Happened!

Here is an interesting story that fits in with the discussion about what HAS happened with bareback. My family physician at home in the states told me, this actually happened to a patient of his, after he had performed a vasectomy on a patient, years back.

The vasectomy had been done on this man and there had been enough time and testing to show that he was no longer producing any sperm. His wife, who was still fertile, turned up pregnant. She was absolutely adamant that she had never been unfaithful to him during their marriage. Of course, he disagreed.

It actually became a legal issue in the courts. It was proven, without a doubt, that the man was not producing any 'live bullets'. But, it was also proven that he regularly visited prostitutes, which he would normally do bareback. The courts eventually ruled, that he had had bareback sex with a prostitute that, in turn, had bareback with everybody else. He had then come home, with enough live sperm, from another man, in his urethra, and had sex with his wife, impregnating her. And, it is my understanding that she didn't much of a sense of humor about the whole thing! Remember that one next time you do bareback right before you meet your wife!

Horbate

[QUOTE=Horbate; 1308330][QUOTE=Breadman; 1307891]And what would the situation be if the guy who got BBFS went on and saw a favorite girl of yours? She just blew a guy who had BBFS only an hour or two before, what's the take on this?

Yep, It Has Happened!

Here is an interesting story that fits in with the discussion about what HAS happened with bareback. My family physician at home in the states told me, this actually happened to a patient of his, after he had performed a vasectomy on a patient, years back.

The vasectomy had been done on this man and there had been enough time and testing to show that he was no longer producing any sperm. His wife, who was still fertile, turned up pregnant. She was absolutely adamant that she had never been unfaithful to him during their marriage. Of course, he disagreed.

It actually became a legal issue in the courts. It was proven, without a doubt, that the man was not producing any 'live bullets'. But, it was also proven that he regularly visited prostitutes, which he would normally do bareback. The courts eventually ruled, that he had had bareback sex with a prostitute that, in turn, had bareback with everybody else. He had then come home, with enough live sperm, from another man, in his urethra, and had sex with his wife, impregnating her. And, it is my understanding that she didn't much of a sense of humor about the whole thing! Remember that one next time you do bareback right before you meet your wife!

Horbate[/QUOTE]Hehehe.

In US I guess.

Or did this happen anywhere else?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1308056]The whole point is Bernds isn't an AO club yet. But its pretty obvious a good percentage of the girls offer this service (and not just to regulars) and the way you pay at the end of the night, management has to know its going on. Yes, AO happens at other clubs but as soon as management finds out, the girl is out the door. The clubs reputation is already tarnished by allowing this to continue.[/QUOTE]The whole point is that people like you are tarnishing the reputation of this club without the beginning of a proof.

In one PM you wrote to me, about bernds, some time back:

Quote: "Bareback can be had for an extra 50 per half hour by half the girls (I'm told)." End of quote.

So you vere "told" and now you "tell "us, and it becomes reality? Have YOU been offered, without asking, AO by a Bernd's girl? Ah, well, you were TOLD.

My experience is that I have never been offered AO at Bernds, while I have several times been offered such practices in Oase and palace. And I promise they are not out of the door.". Does not mean, of course, that some girls at bernds would not do Ao, but that this is management policy, again, is pure diffamation.

Anyway, your fearmongering posts do not seem to affect frequentation, if iI rely on some recent posts talking about overcrowding at Bernds.

Finally, as much as I can fully understand why you would not like Bernds, I cannot understand this fixation of AO. Your problem, mate.