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[QUOTE=Linga;1870697]I met a part Moroccan girl in Zurich at Club Globe who apparently also works at NRW GT. I don't know whether she is currently working there though.

But I must add that Dubai is the place for Moroccan, Iranian and Lebanese girls together with Syrian, Iraqi and many Central Asian women. Apparently, some two hundred nationalities live and work there. The working girls ply their trade in numerous pickup joints, however, mongering at the upper end venues has the potential to become very expensive in Dubai.

Nothing beats German FKK clubs for quality and value. Really concerned about the recent crackdown on Artemis and supposedly also on La Follie right after the French passed the law which prosecutes the procurers of services. Maybe the entire EU is going the way of the French. Hopefully, Switzerland will maintain the status quo.[/QUOTE]Globe=140 euro per 30 min.

GT=50 euro per 30 min LOL.

I love how price differ from nation to nation with same girl LOL.

At least, in globe there are service as promised, but as I reported earlier, same LU; And it is not exactly they collected stunners from Germany, it is same as German FKK, more price, better service, different location.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1870704]Money money money. And money.

HB.[/QUOTE]Obviously it is for money, and I understand that they do not get involve for hobby.

However, what is hard to understand is if they are not needed, why would FKK owner get affiliated with them?

LIke in Artemis, security guys are solid guys and they are not and they do not belong to HA. The head of security is former body building champion in Germany, he is solid legit guy and not biker.

And as far as I know, Kenan is not biker. Nor belong to gang, so what is the roll of HA? They may sending some girls in, but not all and I think FKK owners can collect girls themselves.

So why would FKK owners need HA to operate such clubs. I remember reading HA owning a club somewhere in NRW and it got busted by police, it was big roman empire looking club, so unless they own themselves, I do not see why FKK owners need gangs.

[QUOTE=Linga;1870697]I met a part Moroccan girl in Zurich at Club Globe who apparently also works at NRW GT. I don't know whether she is currently working there though.[/QUOTE]I've heard about this on the Zurich thread also. It leads me to think it's Michelle Moroccan (German National) that works at GT. As far as Persian girls, I'd say Artemis is the highest liklihood. For Turkish, few I've met around at GT, Aca, Mondial, Samya, and Magnum. They are quite the minority, so you'd have to look around to run into them. Most I've run into, and seen were at GT and Aca. As for Moroccans, even lower chances of running into them, and clubs I've run into them was at GT and Aca. Sometimes, you run into half Turkish-German girls at the NRW (at least I did in the past, more in the past). Ran into number of good looking half Turkish types, and they fit the type of optiks that I look for.

Basically, you'd have to club around since they are a minority like the other minority groups in De. For example, I've met a Iranian at YY one time, and even longer ago, at Oase. And Sharks, I've met Moroccan twice, but long times a part, so pretty rare. A Serbian and Bosnian long ago at Magnum. GT currently has Bosnian, Moroccan, and some of the brunettes people think are Germans(Megan, Sisi, etc.. that claim Spanish or Italian half) are probably Balkans immigrants.

I got to say, I like the look of the half Mid-Eastern and Western girls. I find them to have more spice to the looks. With Moroccans, I generally have a very high hit rate. Hehe.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1870430]I'm going to do a tour of the FKKs but want to go for one's with Middle Eastern girls if possible. Especially in the following FKKs if anyone can suggest beautiful girls with good service and no fake tits:

Oase.[/QUOTE]Luisa. Claims half Moroccoan / Spanish (probably raised in Germany). Above average BBBJ / DFK (if she is in the mood).

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1870430]I'm going to do a tour of the FKKs but want to go for one's with Middle Eastern girls if possible. Especially in the following FKKs:

Bernds.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Bernd's: Lily - part Iranian. Very good service. Bubbly personality. She looks partly middle-eastern too, unlike Luisa whose looks are somewhat indeterminate.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1870846]LIke in Artemis, security guys are solid guys and they are not and they do not belong to HA. [/QUOTE]You sure? How do you know?

HB.

Thanks for those replying about Middle Eastern girls. I don't mind if they are half-German at all. I've met and enjoyed a few in my yeas of mongering in Germany but for some reason feel in the mood to do so again now! There was Gulcan at Palace, and Emel also of Palace (both Turkish), I once met but didn't go with a Dutch girl of Iranian origin at Colosseum, Stella at Artemis and before that in Sakura (German-Turk), a Turkish girl in Frankfurt's RLD and I've seen another Turk called Leila at Paradise but she wasn't my type.

I was guessing that since Berlin and Cologne have a large Turkish immigrant population the FKKs around there might have them. I can also try Kaufmich but that's hit-and-miss. I did see a Moroccan girl at Artemis in my last visit but she disappeared before I could seal the deal!!

I'd love to go to Dubai but since its not legal there- even though it goes on- I'm always a bit scared of being the unlucky guy who gets caught! Ditto in Morocco. I would love to fuck some French 'burettes' again (I've been engaged with a Tunisian before) - they are stunning! (but France has just passed its stupid law although one way around it is to enter into a sugar-baby / sugar-daddy relationship but those are much more than FKKs.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1871222]You sure? How do you know?

HB.[/QUOTE]Yes for head of security, the German guy. How about you Mr HB? Are you sure about accuracy of information.

Perhaps, you may be right. It was McA's theory, but I was curious.

Anyway, it is not far fetched. In the early days of Las Vegas, much of the development was done by organized crime, which saw the city as a greenfield opportunity. They moved in from various places. Chicago, NYC etc, but it is generally accepted that they kept the city free of crime in order to attract visitors, which at that time was not yet developed.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1870550]You don't have to. There's no need for gangs to create a safe environment.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1871402]Perhaps, you may be right. It was McA's theory, but I was curious.

Anyway, it is not far fetched. In the early days of Las Vegas, much of the development was done by organized crime, which saw the city as a greenfield opportunity. They moved in from various places. Chicago, NYC etc, but it is generally accepted that they kept the city free of crime in order to attract visitors, which at that time was not yet developed.[/QUOTE]Yes organized crime started it and it turned out it was particularly inefficient. The only way to could make a profit was by rigging the tables, black-mail, prostitution, drugs, .

Litterally by killing their own market.

So much so that they all sold out to big companies (like MGM) and once the organized crime was gone, Laas Vegas became the success it is today. Part of that move was due to a former mayor of Las Vegas who used to be counsel to the mob and thus knew perfectly their weak spots.

Don't know where to put this, but I really like Kimi Raikkonen and I think I could manage to look like him in his young days with some heavy changes on my face, hair, losing weight, etc. Of course I still wouldn't be able to look like him, but I guess I would be somewhere close.

And we share some interests and I think I could manage to speak like him.

So do you think this would attract girls outside in P4P world? Remember the fact I still wouldn't be F1 champion or have lots of money or be able to move away from Finland yet.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1871342]Thanks for those replying about Middle Eastern girls. I don't mind if they are half-German at all. I've met and enjoyed a few in my yeas of mongering in Germany but for some reason feel in the mood to do so again now! There was Gulcan at Palace, and Emel also of Palace (both Turkish), I once met but didn't go with a Dutch girl of Iranian origin at Colosseum, Stella at Artemis and before that in Sakura (German-Turk), a Turkish girl in Frankfurt's RLD and I've seen another Turk called Leila at Paradise but she wasn't my type.

I was guessing that since Berlin and Cologne have a large Turkish immigrant population the FKKs around there might have them. I can also try Kaufmich but that's hit-and-miss. I did see a Moroccan girl at Artemis in my last visit but she disappeared before I could seal the deal!!

I'd love to go to Dubai but since its not legal there- even though it goes on- I'm always a bit scared of being the unlucky guy who gets caught! Ditto in Morocco. I would love to fuck some French 'burettes' again (I've been engaged with a Tunisian before) - they are stunning! (but France has just passed its stupid law although one way around it is to enter into a sugar-baby / sugar-daddy relationship but those are much more than FKKs.[/QUOTE]IMHO, Turks, Moroccans, Tunisians are not arabs or middle Eastern. Although the North Africans speak Arabic and most of them are muslim, they are not strictly arabs. The Arabs call them Maghrebis. And Turks are more Europeans than anything else certainly not arabs or middle eastern.

I can understand why people would be apprehensive about visiting Dubai for mongering. But it is a top destination for working girls from all over the world. P4P is huge, at industrial scale. As a Monger I wish to travel to cities like Rio De Janeiro, Medellin Colombia, Montreal, and Toronto one day and I am glad I ticked off Dubai.

BTW, you can definitely find a lot of french brunettes in Montreal judging from the reports in that forum.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1870457]Why there are such a high concentration of Romanian girls in brothels? Especially FKK.

I know that Romania is poor, but so are some other nations. Yet it is Romanians that we find most in brothels.

Like Greek girls are poor now, and they also are in EU, so they can come and work in brothel, but numbers are limited, so why Romanians? They are poor, but very organized or something?[/QUOTE]I've been wondering about that myself for many years and have asked around whenever I had an opportunity. Still, I don't have a good answer and I'd love to read what others think. In the meantime, here are a few additional observations I have accumulated:

- It's not just the girls, but also "support" personnel. For example, the last time I was at Oase, barman, cook and the person serving at the restaurant were all Romanian. I've also heard a receptionist at some other place speak Romanian with the girls.

- Romanians dominate not just German FKK clubs. Brothels all over Spain ("prostibulos") are also full of Romanian hookers. Same observation about support personnel as above applies.

- Romania is the only country among the former Eastern block countries with a romance language. As such, Romanians have a facility for West European languages, especially related ones like Italian, French, Spanish. They often learn them in school starting at a young age. But even English is heavily influenced by French (think 1066); as most of us know, not many of these girls speak German, but many speak surprisingly good English. And if you go to a place like La Jonquera at the French / Spanish border, you can hear the Romanian girls there juggle English, French and Spanish with little difficulty. In contrast, Hungarians have a much harder time with any Western languages, because their own language is not even Indo-European. I'm thinking of that tall skinny Hungarian girl at Oase--I couldn't communicate with her at all, so I gave up on trying the world's oldest language.

- Historically speaking, Romania has always had a cultural connection with Western Europe. Bucharest used to be called "little Paris" before WW1. During the Cold War, many Romanians fled their country and found refuge in Western Europe (like my friend with the unpleasant FKK experience I mentioned recently).

- There are plenty of Romanian (usually gypsy) beggars and opportunistic small-time crooks all over West European cities (e. G. Paris), probably within well-organized structures, so the "penetration" goes well beyond prostitution. There is a certain national stereotype about scamming ("Romanians are thieves" and like many stereotypes it contains a grain of truth. Also see my recent post about Romanian FKK girls avoiding Romanian customers, for that very same reason / stereotype according to some of them.

- Initially (when they were first allowed to travel freely into Western Europe), Romanian prostitutes quickly acquired a reputation as scammer, to the point that many of them were trying to pretend they were from other countries. Now it seems they do that to a much lesser degree- I would argue just because they are well-established and their reputation is in fact pretty good overall.

In any case, ultimately, none of what I know or have read or heard seems sufficient to fully explain the phenomenal dominance of Romanian women in West European prostitution. I find it stupefying, almost as if FKK clubs and Spanish brothels were official "representations" of Romania in Western Europe. Anyone know more, or have thoughts about underlying causes- other than economical ones already mentioned by Mr. Ho?

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1871342]
I was guessing that since Berlin and Cologne have a large Turkish immigrant population the FKKs around there might have them. I can also try Kaufmich but that's hit-and-miss. I did see a Moroccan girl at Artemis in my last visit but she disappeared before I could seal the deal!!

[/QUOTE]If you are visiting Berlin then here is a link for you:

[URL]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/Fatima/Setcard.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=Prurient6;1871584]I've been wondering about that myself for many years and have asked around whenever I had an opportunity. Still, I don't have a good answer and I'd love to read what others think. In the meantime, here are a few additional observations I have accumulated:

- It's not just the girls, but also "support" personnel. For example, the last time I was at Oase, barman, cook and the person serving at the restaurant were all Romanian. I've also heard a receptionist at some other place speak Romanian with the girls.

- Romanians dominate not just German FKK clubs. Brothels all over Spain ("prostibulos") are also full of Romanian hookers. Same observation about support personnel as above applies.

- Romania is the only country among the former Eastern block countries with a romance language. As such, Romanians have a facility for West European languages, especially related ones like Italian, French, Spanish. They often learn them in school starting at a young age. But even English is heavily influenced by French (think 1066); as most of us know, not many of these girls speak German, but many speak surprisingly good English. And if you go to a place like La Jonquera at the French / Spanish border, you can hear the Romanian girls there juggle English, French and Spanish with little difficulty. In contrast, Hungarians have a much harder time with any Western languages, because their own language is not even Indo-European. I'm thinking of that tall skinny Hungarian girl at Oase--I couldn't communicate with her at all, so I gave up on trying the world's oldest language...[/QUOTE]Well I do not want to put this very strongly, but I am aware that quite many girls in FKK are just walk in girls who are independent.

However, beside famous pimp crew, I also felt that there are some organizing format behind Romanian or other concentrated race in FKK, but Romanians are extreme in numbers and dominates LU all over.

Therefore, I always felt there are some organized format to support them coming, I am not necessarily pimps, but you know it is bit like refugees support who put them on boat, girls pay these organized group to work in FKK and they organize all, including local support. Well if this is call pimp or not in big question mark? LOL.

Anyways, it is better Romanian girls than Korean girl with my taste and some Romanian girls are really nice in room, but I must say they are not too extremely dirty, all my dirtiest girls in rooms are Germans and Polish. Does that come with the regional upbringing that they are willing to be dirty is another question mark, but I love their dirtiness LOL!