Istanbul

[QUOTE=TiSmoke;2770209]Hello folks,

I'm considering testing some independent girls or agencies from MR for incalls, and I want to know how safe those are. How can you tell a scam from a real one? I mean of course in addition to looking up their phone numbers and checking to see whether their photos are fake using search engines.

Also, do you guys have any numbers or know any that you tested?

If you don't recommend incalls, what do you recommend if I can't bring outcalls to my current hotel?

Appreciate your advices.[/QUOTE]Hi. The only risk of fake girls that some agencies provide unfortunately. In some hotels like Milord Hotel e. G. You have to pay 300 liras at reception and provide your ID. Firstly I was worried of that, but in fact that is normal practice so don't really worry. I tried two agencies. Brilliant and Pride. First one has only 3-4 girls usually, but at least you can be sure they are real. Their Zlata is the real porn star. Pride Agency. They had girls in Dedeman hotel, went there (no fee at reception, you go directly to the floor), but girl was fake. By what's up they started to apologize and tried me to go to another rooms. But if they provide you fake at once I don't deal with them anymore.

I was in Istanbul few days & I really enjoyed girls over there. I tried girls from different platform.

Encounter 1 - Contacted Ela Simsek via Facebook (Thanks to GuyPerson). She shared few profiles & selected one for 4 hours. I got PSE. Loved the session.

Encounter 2 - I wanted to meet some independent girls via SA. Contacted 10 girls, 80% of girls gave me their whatsapp number. Finally decided to meet a young turkish girl. I did video call before meeting to verify. When she arrived, she was better than pics. She was young & looks like model. Really had great time with her as well. She was little expensive, but her looks & service paid off.

Encounter 3 - Threesome with twitter girls Iş305;l & Mellissa. My first threesome & both girls made it memorable. They don't speak english. Mellissa speak very limited English. Used google translater while we were talking. But core action did not require any talking.

Can't wait to go back to Istanbul again. Loved the people & food there as well.

In the last week of Nov. , I was flying on Turkish airline and decided to take a stop-over in Istanbul for 4 days. This was my second visit to the city. In my first trip, I had a very good experience with Twitter girls.

This time I decided to try SA and messaged almost 10 girls 2 weeks before my trip. Many girls in Istanbul do not speak English so my response rate was low. Also I found out, some of the English speaking girls who responded are WGs and mostly from Eastern european countries. Also there are many WGs from Indonesia (I guess they have visa free entry to Turkey).

My observations for SA in Istanbul.

Many Iranian, Moroccan, Ukrainian and Russian WGs on SA, they speak english but charge by hour. I had met 2 girls (1 from Iran and 1 from Ukraine). They were great in bed but not true GFE.

Some Indonesian girls on SA are WGs. These are value for money. They speak English and provide very good service. (I also got 30 min massage from one Indonesian girl).

Many Turkish girls do not speak good English, but you can use Translator app and they provide very good service.

I also found some English speaking Turkish girls on SA and that was the best part of this trip.

Had a 3 some with 2 SA Turkish girls and was surprised to see how open the girls were.

Hotels were girl friendly but required to register girl at reception if they come by themselves. (3 out of 6 girls did not register at lobby when they entered with me).

Airport is the best place for Money exchange. "Global Exchange" has booths everywhere on the airport and they give best rate if you convert more than USD 1000. Also they provide buyback of Lira with the same rate of exchange. THey send email with purchase rate. You show them the email and they exchange back to USD with same rate.

On the airport, you can get free Wifi for 1 HR or buy for 24 hrs (I guess USD 7).

I met following SA girls in Istanbul.

GorgeousBae.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/da24601f-d78c-43f6-a787-fc33e0e3b386[/URL]

She is Indonesian. Cute, petit with a nice slim body. She also gave me 30 min massage before sex. BBBJ, all positions and DATY, no Anal. Typical asian service with a lot of fake moaning. But good value for money. Damage was around US $200. Not a clock watcher, but no repeat for me as I had enjoyed so many asians. She was a last minute choice as I messed up with another date for that day.

Emma1998.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4ff5c9cd-5891-4d8a-a4c5-7fd7cb8bc07c[/URL]

She is from Iran. Very hot, model type looks. We went to nice restaurant for dinner and then to hotel for more fun. BBBJ, all positions and DATY, maybe open for Anal, did not ask. She is great in bed, screams loud and enjoys sex, but did not find GFE. She maybe a pro. Expensive, US $ 400 for the evening. Not a clock watcher, but no repeat for me. Asks for money upfront.

Yana.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ede5b29-8fad-4a45-a29c-3a5090f26674[/URL]

She is from Ukraine and provided a very good service. Great, sloppy BBBJ, lot of moaning while DATY. She really enjoys sex and wants to make you happy. She said she is a escort. Asks for money upfront. Definitely a repeat for me.

Also talked to the following SA girls on WhatsApp but could not meet.

Hailey.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11265bd2-6bd1-4d58-9b67-deff576aaad9[/URL]

Ola-la.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/sent/09665cee-4d0f-47e7-8c18-fc491afa81bd[/URL]

Molka.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5e50b489-3585-4e87-9c3e-222aada303c4[/URL]

Also met 2 twitter girls. Both do not speak English, but I had very good time with them.

[URL]https://twitter.com/buse_piril[/URL]

Other Twitter account is not active now.

[QUOTE=InvincibleJohn;2770692]I was in Istanbul few days & I really enjoyed girls over there. I tried girls from different platform.

Encounter 1 - Contacted Ela Simsek via Facebook (Thanks to GuyPerson). She shared few profiles & selected one for 4 hours. I got PSE. Loved the session.

Encounter 2 - I wanted to meet some independent girls via SA. Contacted 10 girls, 80% of girls gave me their whatsapp number. Finally decided to meet a young turkish girl. I did video call before meeting to verify. When she arrived, she was better than pics. She was young & looks like model. Really had great time with her as well. She was little expensive, but her looks & service paid off.

Encounter 3 - Threesome with twitter girls Iş305;l & Mellissa. My first threesome & both girls made it memorable. They don't speak english. Mellissa speak very limited English. Used google translater while we were talking. But core action did not require any talking.

Can't wait to go back to Istanbul again. Loved the people & food there as well.[/QUOTE]Hello, I'm trying to get some GFI and maybe a girl to spend the whole week with me. Just want to know if the girls you contacted on SA are professional escort or someone more of girls want make side money? Any if you don't mind share more info about how much you paid? Appreciated.

[QUOTE=InvincibleJohn;2770692]I was in Istanbul few days & I really enjoyed girls over there. I tried girls from different platform.

Encounter 1 - Contacted Ela Simsek via Facebook (Thanks to GuyPerson). She shared few profiles & selected one for 4 hours. I got PSE. Loved the session.

Encounter 2 - I wanted to meet some independent girls via SA. Contacted 10 girls, 80% of girls gave me their whatsapp number. Finally decided to meet a young turkish girl. I did video call before meeting to verify. When she arrived, she was better than pics. She was young & looks like model. Really had great time with her as well. She was little expensive, but her looks & service paid off.

Encounter 3 - Threesome with twitter girls Iş305;l & Mellissa. My first threesome & both girls made it memorable. They don't speak english. Mellissa speak very limited English. Used google translater while we were talking. But core action did not require any talking.

Can't wait to go back to Istanbul again. Loved the people & food there as well.[/QUOTE]Hello, would you share more about the SA experience? Any amertur there? Any if you don't mind, how much to spend? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Pk099;2770740]In the last week of Nov. , I was flying on Turkish airline and decided to take a stop-over in Istanbul for 4 days. This was my second visit to the city. In my first trip, I had a very good experience with Twitter girls.

This time I decided to try SA and messaged almost 10 girls 2 weeks before my trip. Many girls in Istanbul do not speak English so my response rate was low. Also I found out, some of the English speaking girls who responded are WGs and mostly from Eastern european countries. Also there are many WGs from Indonesia (I guess they have visa free entry to Turkey).

My observations for SA in Istanbul.

Many Iranian, Moroccan, Ukrainian and Russian WGs on SA, they speak english but charge by hour. I had met 2 girls (1 from Iran and 1 from Ukraine). They were great in bed but not true GFE.

Some Indonesian girls on SA are WGs. These are value for money. They speak English and provide very good service. (I also got 30 min massage from one Indonesian girl).

Many Turkish girls do not speak good English, but you can use Translator app and they provide very good service.

I also found some English speaking Turkish girls on SA and that was the best part of this trip.

Had a 3 some with 2 SA Turkish girls and was surprised to see how open the girls were.

Hotels were girl friendly but required to register girl at reception if they come by themselves. (3 out of 6 girls did not register at lobby when they entered with me).

Airport is the best place for Money exchange. "Global Exchange" has booths everywhere on the airport and they give best rate if you convert more than USD 1000. Also they provide buyback of Lira with the same rate of exchange. THey send email with purchase rate. You show them the email and they exchange back to USD with same rate.

On the airport, you can get free Wifi for 1 HR or buy for 24 hrs (I guess USD 7).

I met following SA girls in Istanbul.

GorgeousBae.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/da24601f-d78c-43f6-a787-fc33e0e3b386[/URL]

She is Indonesian. Cute, petit with a nice slim body. She also gave me 30 min massage before sex. BBBJ, all positions and DATY, no Anal. Typical asian service with a lot of fake moaning. But good value for money. Damage was around US $200. Not a clock watcher, but no repeat for me as I had enjoyed so many asians. She was a last minute choice as I messed up with another date for that day.

Emma1998.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4ff5c9cd-5891-4d8a-a4c5-7fd7cb8bc07c[/URL]

She is from Iran. Very hot, model type looks. We went to nice restaurant for dinner and then to hotel for more fun. BBBJ, all positions and DATY, maybe open for Anal, did not ask. She is great in bed, screams loud and enjoys sex, but did not find GFE. She maybe a pro. Expensive, US $ 400 for the evening. Not a clock watcher, but no repeat for me. Asks for money upfront.

Yana.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ede5b29-8fad-4a45-a29c-3a5090f26674[/URL]

She is from Ukraine and provided a very good service. Great, sloppy BBBJ, lot of moaning while DATY. She really enjoys sex and wants to make you happy. She said she is a escort. Asks for money upfront. Definitely a repeat for me.

Also talked to the following SA girls on WhatsApp but could not meet.

Hailey.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11265bd2-6bd1-4d58-9b67-deff576aaad9[/URL]

Ola-la.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/sent/09665cee-4d0f-47e7-8c18-fc491afa81bd[/URL]

Molka.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5e50b489-3585-4e87-9c3e-222aada303c4[/URL]

Also met 2 twitter girls. Both do not speak English, but I had very good time with them.

[URL]https://twitter.com/buse_piril[/URL]

Other Twitter account is not active now.[/QUOTE]Is there contact info for Yana outside SA. Like WhatsApp?

A strong statement, I know. But her service has definitely declined post Covid.

Now I have been seeing Ela's girls for nearly a decade and pre-covid I would rate her girls and service the best in the world for the category of semi-pros (basically not full time working girls. Students / hairdressers etc). BUT, alas my post Covid experiences have not been good. By not good I mean quality of girls, quality of service: all have deteriorated. It is that bad now that I will not go to her anymore and will be pursuing the SB route.

Those of you that know Ela well, know that she can get a little stroppy & short sometimes when communicating, regardless we have maintained a good relationship for close to a decade, but my last trip to Istanbul really left a sour taste in my mouth.

She sent a girl called Merve (skinny with pic of her on motorbike) very cute student type - 4,000 TRY for 2 hrs. I got in a bottle of wine which we finished and had a nice chit chat for the first hour. Once we moved to the bedroom she started complaining about the alcohol taste in my mouth, to the level where she refused to kiss me! (she had the same wine as me! This put a real dampener on the evening, so I told her that if she would not kiss me she should leave and take half the money for 1 HR. I contacted Ela and asked her to find me another girl for that evening. Now she did not respond to me for around an hour, so I messaged her back, and told her I would contact one of my regular girls and not to bother sending anyone.

10 minutes later I get a knock at the door and its one of Ela's girls (looked like a junky street walker to me!) I gave her some taxi money and sent her packing telling her I did not receive confirmation or a pic! By this point I've spent a shit load of money and zero action! Anyway, Ela contacts me and starts arguing with me on messenger to the point where I told her where to go and basically after being a loyal customer for nearly 10 years she accused me of being untrustworthy! This is where our relationship ended. I told her I would not be using her again. A real shame because I visit Istanbul every month.

So my regular girl came (who is an actual ex-Ela girl!) and saved the evening!

Sadly the age of Ela is over, real shame! 2014 to 2020 were definitely her Golden years, and I really did have the best of times with her stable of girls back then. Oh well. All good things come to an end!

This is a summary of my research so far.

Platforms.

Tinder.

Google.

Google Maps.

Escort websites found via Google.

Twitter.

Instagram.

Keywords.

#instanbulgirl.

#istanbulescort.

#istanbuleskort.

Istanbul Escort.

Istanbul Massage.

Ethnicities.

Russian.

Ukrainian.

Belorussian.

Moldovan.

Thai.

Indonesian.

Turkish.

Iranian.

And other middle eastern cultures.

Price for 1 h outcall FS.

Turkish & Middle East_ 1000 - 1500, in rare cases 2000 Lira + Taxi.

Asian_ around $100 + Taxi.

East European_ $150 - $200 + Taxi, though I could negotiate $100 in some cases.

Findings.

- The recommended agencies, popular forums and mamasans in this forum seem to quote higher prices (3000 - 5000 TRY).

- Tinder and google yielded the best results, though Tinder seems more time intensive.

- Local girls and partly local agencies who also have a mix of east european girls and local girls quote cheaper, quoting 1000 - 1300 TRY on average + Taxi.

- obviously, the pictures look stunning, too good to be true, if true there is a real opportunity in Istanbul for ST FS outcalls.

- Current exchange rate 100 USD = 1877 TRY, with 1000 - 1300 TRY per h, that's 53 - 69 USD per pop.

- validation of these findings will happen over the next days and weeks, and will be reported here in the forum.

Process:

Tinder.

- just swipe within 5 miles in the center of the karaköwhy.

- at times you will see profiles with a number on the picture.

- take note of the number and name.

- look at the instructions below.

Google.

- use a VPN to set your location to turkey.

- use the domain [URL]google.com.tr[/URL].

- setup the location setting of your browser to be in turkey and show results in Turkish language (trust me, this will have the biggest impact).

- translate different keywords into Turkish with google translate (for instance "Istanbul escort"/ which is basically also just "Istanbul eskort", LOL).

- analyze the search results to find agencies or independent freelancers.

- extract the number and names, put them in a list.

- look at the instructions below.

When writing with the girls / agencies.

- install whatsapp business desktop app on your desktop.

- use the wa. Me / country-code+phone number URL to open chats automatically on your WhatsApp desktop app.

- use google translate to translate very charming English messages into Turkish.

- copy the Turkish message and translate it back into English to see if there are no translation issues.

- if there are any translation issues, try to rephase or simplify your message (a dot or comma can work wonders).

- a simple two-word message combo of "Hello Dear", "I would love to meet you today, do you have time?" can work wonders.

- they will probably ask for how long, so state the period they shall come around.

- they will most certainly ask about your address or hotel, before you give any personal information out, get them to send you the prices and the pictures, if they repeat that they need this information before they send the girl, tell them politely that you would like to see first which girls are available and at which price before you make a decision.

- if the prices are too high, you can tell them that's too much for you, but I found 1000 - 13000 for ST FS outcalls very competitive, in most cases they are willing to go down with the price (I even negotiated a Russian hottie from $200 down to $150 and then down to $100, on NYE).

- if you come across massage salons (I did search some via insta and google maps) and you just send them a message over whatsapp, they usually will let you know that they have "extra services".

- make sure you negotiate with the massage girl the concrete services before you agree that she can come, tell the mamasan you don't want to waste anyone's times (she may say that they can't discuss these things on messenger, so she will connect you directly with the girl.

That's espc the case with Asian massage places).

Please wait for my in-depth reports in the next days where I will validate my research.

Bonus Material:

Here are some responses from the agencies I got in touch with:

1.

Merhaba ben Buse.

2 arkadaş305;z.

22 23 yaş305;mız 🙂.

Yerim yok. Sadece eve otele geliyorum.

İki kişiyseniz 2 kişI geliriz.

Tek kişiyseniz hangimizi derseniz o gelir.

İSTANBUL the BENİM DIŞIMDA ORİJİNAL RESİM KULLANAN YOK DENECEK KADAR AZ 😇.

Saatlik bir göareüşme 1000 TL + taxi.

2 saat 2 bin + taxi.

3 saat 3 bin + taxi.

Anal yok condom şart hijyen öand planda.

Sevgili tadında.

Pazarlık gibi ucuz muhabbet yapanları direkt engelliyorum.

2.

🥰 Merhabalar Canım 🥰.

✅KONDOM ŞART.

✅ EV OTEL REZİDANS GELİYORUZ.

✅ ANAL seeİMCİF + YOK.

✅ SEVGİLİ TADINDA GÖareÜŞME.

✅ ÖDEME GELEN BAYANA ELDEN.

❌ BAYANLARIN KENDİ YERİ YOK ❌.

TÜM RESİMLER ORJİNALDİare KESİNLİKLE. SEÇTİ286;304;andİZ BAYAN HARİseeİ beİareİ GELMEZ ❗65039;10071;65039;.

🥰 Ş304;MDİDEN İwhyİ EĞLENCELER🥰.

-FİYAT LİSTESİ.

1 saat- 1000 TL + TAKSİ.

2 saat- 1500 TL+TAKSİ.

3 saat- 1900+ TAKSİ.

4 saat- 2100 +TAKSİ.

5 saat 2500+TAKSİ.

GECELİK- 2900+TAKSİ.

3.

❣65039;Merhaba sevgilim ❣65039;.

Yerim yok hayatim.

Ev otel ve residence göareüşmesi* kabul ediyoruz.

1 saat 1 seans 1000+ taksi.

2 saat 2 seans 1600+ taksi.

3 saat 3 seans 2000+ taksi.

4 saat 4 seans 2500+ taksi.

5 saat 5 seans 3500+ taksi.

Anal cimcif yok kondom sart aşkım.

VIP BAYANLAR.

1 saat 1 seans 2000+taksi.

2 saat 2 seans 3000+taksi.

3 saat 3 seans 4000+taksi.

4 saat 4 seans 4500+taksi.

5 saat 5 seans 5500+taksi.

Sevgili tadında göareüşmek istersen resim Için yazarsıand aşkım 🙈.

And the pictures they sent me about the girls (obviously they all say these are real pictures, but that remains to be validated).

If anyone has experience with such Escort agencies, please share them here.

I emphasize with you, I will publish some research which might help you in your predicament. A fresh breeze into the sleeping market of Istanbul. Looking forward to your feedback.

[QUOTE=JayXXX;2776832]A strong statement, I know. But her service has definitely declined post Covid.

Now I have been seeing Ela's girls for nearly a decade and pre-covid I would rate her girls and service the best in the world for the category of semi-pros (basically not full time working girls. Students / hairdressers etc). BUT, alas my post Covid experiences have not been good. By not good I mean quality of girls, quality of service: all have deteriorated. It is that bad now that I will not go to her anymore and will be pursuing the SB route.

Those of you that know Ela well, know that she can get a little stroppy & short sometimes when communicating, regardless we have maintained a good relationship for close to a decade, but my last trip to Istanbul really left a sour taste in my mouth.

She sent a girl called Merve (skinny with pic of her on motorbike) very cute student type - 4,000 TRY for 2 hrs. I got in a bottle of wine which we finished and had a nice chit chat for the first hour. Once we moved to the bedroom she started complaining about the alcohol taste in my mouth, to the level where she refused to kiss me! (she had the same wine as me!.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayXXX;2776832]

Sadly the age of Ela is over, real shame! 2014 to 2020 were definitely her Golden years, and I really did have the best of times with her stable of girls back then. Oh well. All good things come to an end![/QUOTE]I tried contacting Ela and got a couple replies and then nothing. I think I'll look elsewhere. Suggestions?

I had a 24 hour layover in IST on Friday. Contacted Ela and booked Tugce as I had read very good reviews about her in the forum. Wonderful girl. Pretty, great bod, and an engaging personality. Not a cock watcher. Super fun an satisfying and I'd most definitely repeat again. Though maybe I'd try one of the other girls on offer.

I suggest contacting Ela a bit ahead of time. She sent me the pics of 3 girls available about 24 hours before I got to IST.

Hope this info is useful!

Hello friends,

I'm visiting Istanbul next week. I'm visiting with some friends and won't able to host at my hotel.

I'm checking this thread and I see a lotta of discussion is girls coming to your hotel.

Do the girls in Istanbul offer incalls and and if they do how save is it going to their places.

I've checked the escornews site and see some of the girls ads saying they offer incalls but it's pricey.

How the girls on twitter and insta. Would like to know if they offer incalls as their prices seems more affordable than the escortnews site.

Which is easier / cheaper / faster / less hassle? Getting an online e-visa before arrival or just getting a visa on arrival when I get to IST?

Do taxis take cash only or will they take card only?

About how much is the taxi from IST into DT Istanbul?

I have not been to Istanbul in over 7 years.

Thanks.

MadVic.

Thank you for this post.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2777275]This is a summary of my research so far.

Platforms.

Tinder.

Google.

Google Maps.

Escort websites found via Google.

Twitter.

Instagram..[/QUOTE]

Anyone ever tried girls from EuroGirls site in Istanbul? If they look even half as good as the ad, that could be a fun destination.