Bogota trip report; first timer in Colombia- and a fair comparison to FKK
I don't think there is anything left about Bogota that has not been told here before. At the same time, I believe one of the benefits of the board is to hear various perspectives and experiences. We all come from a variety of backgrounds and may have different tastes and preferences. A girl that I may find to be a 9 or 10 might be a 5 or 6 in others' books. I wanted to make this review short and to the point, but it ended up being long. Never-the-less, I just hope it helps other like-minded members, specially first-timers to Colombia who are planning to arrange their trip.
I want also to thank everyone on the board that patiently answered all my questions, publicly and through PMs prior to my trip.
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-Background: This was my first trip to Colombia. My hobby land has mostly been Europe (specially Germany FKK clubs) and Canada.
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-Preferences: Even though short-lived and superficial, I like to build some sort of a connection with the girls. I like to know them a bit better and develop a bit of chemistry with them. That means I'm usually in seek of arrangements at least 1 HR in duration. Quickies and 20-30 min sessions do not cut it for me. I have done lots of short sessions though, to quench my urgent needs, but seldom they have created strong enough chemicals in my brain to engrave a pleasurable long-lasting memory. In my 15+ years of hobbying I have had many memorable sessions that I got to know the girl and after many years still thinking about them enables me to relive those moments. On the other hand, memories about the "wham-bam, thank you m'am" kind of sessions is just meh even though the sex was great at the time.
As for physical preferences, I'm a sucker for innocent, college girl type of look. Bodywise, slim. I'm a leg guy; boobs don't excite me much. I can't stand fake body parts, whether they are boobs, lips, butt or even nails. My ideal girl is all natural.
In my books DFK and foreplay are a must and I don't care about BJ at all. Girls have told me they have not met many guys who don't like BJ- so I'm an odd creature right there. Like many of you, I love DATY and is important part of any session for me. Sex comes in the second tier for me; If DKF and foreplay are right sex is just ice on the cake.
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-Now the trip:
Put everything in the context of me not speaking Spanish and I suck at negotiation. It probably would have been a totally different experience if I could speak the language. I used google translate app to communicate with the girls which went relatively ok for basic conversations. I probably got gringo prices a lot especially for drinks. My plan was to avoid using the rooms in the clubs and to take the girls back to my hotel, preferably for long sessions. As I mentioned above, 20-30 min sessions are not my thing.
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-Airport: Bogota has a relatively nice airport. Passport control line was insanely long upon arrival: took about 2 hrs to get through. For departure the line was probably a bit shorter; took about 30-40 minutes. Obviously, depends on your luck and what time of the day is your departure / arrival.
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-Local transportation: I had made prearrangement with a taxi. I had got his contact info through pm from one of the members here. I found the driver / wingman to be a really nice guy, honest, smart and very helpful. Rates were very reasonable for his services (a bit less than the standard rates that I have read here). He knew minimal English, but with google translation app it was super easy to communicate. If anyone interested to have his contact info pm me.
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-Hotel: I stayed at Viaggio Neuve Trez. Nice hotel in the northern zone in a very safe neighborhood. The hotel was very clean, with all the essentials. I had a room with 2 double beds, I kept one for myself and one to share with my guest (s)! Breakfast at the hotel was just ok and it was included in my room. It was a girl friendly hotel. The first night that I brought a guest the lady at the front desk told me it was 30 K extra. I reminded her that I had booked the room for 2. She then checked and apologized and said I was right. The first night that I brought a guest, I felt comfortable and the flow of registration of the guest seemed natural to me. All the subsequent nights that I was there the same lady was at the front desk. Even though she was really cool and nice with relatively good English I still felt a bit uneasy after the 3rd night coming back with a new guest every night. I guess the hotel staff are used to this, I was not. The same thing about the hotel bellman; the way he was looking at me and my guests, I bet he was thinking "you lucky bastard!"... I had read in one of the threads that the Wifi at Viaggio hotels blocks access to sex sites including this forum. I had no problem accessing them: I typically use VPN but I specially tried without my VPN and had not problem accessing these sites.
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-Club experience:
First night at Lido. Super cool and modern facility with nice lighting, excellent music and probably around 40-50 super hot girls with many of them 9-10 and model type. All nicely dressed. Really impressive. I don't think I had seen these many hot looking girls all in the same room in my entire life; the best way I can describe it is to imagine like a party before a pageant contest with all contestants flirting with you. But the good things ended right there. The quoted price was insane (with Colombia standards) like 600 to 900K per hour. Exit fee was 180 K plus 180 K of buying a drink (I bought a bottle to share with the girls so that I didn't have to buy them individually). That night, because I wanted longer arrangements which was really expensive with higher end girls, I settled with a 6 to take her to the hotel; gave her 600 K for 1 am to 6 am. She was just ok, we did not have a good chemistry and no DKF, just pecking on the lips.
The next night I went to Troya. Extremely loud which I hate. But the girls were nice looking; could spot at least a few 7-8's. One girl immediately caught my attention. She was an 8 in my books with innocent looks; exactly the way I like them. She seemed very sweet. Negotiated 300 K from 10 pm to 6 am. I was super excited. Large corona to share with girls and tip for the waiter added up to 60 K total. In the taxi she was all over me. We stopped somewhere to grab a bite. She was really acting like a real GF in the restaurant. Again, here was where the good things ended. When we arrived at the hotel she suddenly went into her shell; no DFK, said she is not used to it! Overall, she seemed uncomfortable. No more caressing and kissings that she was giving me in the taxi. It was really odd. We had a vanilla sex and then she started watching TV for the rest of the night. I was really pissed off and after a while I turned off the TV and expressed my discontent. She apologized, we snuggled a bit and then she fell asleep in my arms. Another round of vanilla sex in the morning. She broke two of her fake nails during the night. In the morning she asked me for 200 K for hair dresser, nails and taxi! I refused. She started to act up and started crying, etc. At that point I just wanted to get her out of there; gave her 50 k and sent her home.
Next day went to Atunes in the afternoon. The atmosphere looked like a cold and poorly decorated cafeteria, nothing exciting. But on the positive side the music was not too loud and it was not too dark. Another thing that I really liked about Atunes was that I felt no pressure to buy alcohol, and the girls were not pushy at all. Got a Corona, again probably at gringo price of 16 K. A total of 15-20 girls there, most of them 6 or 7's. No body caught my eyes so I went back to my hotel to come back to Fiebre later the same night. I did not like the atmosphere of Fiebre, crowded and loud. Most girls 6-7. Ended up negotiating with a 7, for 400 K including the exit fee, for around 10 pm to the morning. She was more of a party girl than my preferred innocent or cute looking, but was facially the best I could spot on that night. Bought a large Corona, cost me 60 K with the demanding tip from the waiter. She urged me to buy another bottle for her to take to the hotel. Again, grabbed some food on our way to the hotel. She was just ok at the hotel, nothing to remember. Another suboptimal all nighter for me.
The last night in Bogota I went to Juan Pablo, one of the Northern clubs which was walking distance to my hotel. The place was dead, I mean dead. It is advertised as open from 6 pm. I first went there at 6:30, there were no girls at all, and obviously no dudes. The owner said girls come around 7-7:30. Ok, went back to my hotel and I came back again around 8:30, still not a single girl. I gave up and headed to Lola and arrived there around 9 pm. There were 5 girls, and I was the only dude there. I immediately felt attracted to a cute girl. She turned out to be Venezuelan. The club owner / manager was staring at me the whole time I was talking to the girls which was really awkward. He then pushed me to buy a bottle of drink to share with the girls. Eventually negotiated with the Venezuelan girl. She was asking 900 k from 10 pm to 7 am; negotiated down to 600 k. The exit fee and an expensive bottle of whisky came to 700 K which really pissed me off, but I was happy to get the cute Venezuelan for the whole night. At the hotel, nice DFK and 2 rounds of sex (could not do DATY because of a bit of smell), but after that she fell deep asleep, like comatose, until the morning. In the morning when she woke up she was really cranky. Did not even allow me to touch or kiss her anymore. She wanted to stay for breakfast, but I was pissed off; I said no and sent her on her way.
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-Escort experience:
I had a plan to use escort services at least a few times during my trip, but for some reason it did not work out for me. Searching this forum, and from what I had heard from one of the members here, one of the best agencies is solitasparati, but I had no luck with them. I had registered on their website too. I sent a message through whatsapp, no response. I sent an email, no response, used their online form on their website, no response. Then I asked my driver to call them and asked for a specific girl. They said if they do not know you they will not give any information! Really odd. Other escort websites looked unreliable. I gave up on escorts.
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-Photoprepagos experience:
Hooked up with one girl, her apartment was about 20 min walking from my hotel. I found her to have a hot body with killer legs; being a leg guy I could stare at her legs for hours and hours, especially in her sexy black dress. That was first time I got some DFK from a girl in Bogota but the whole session felt a bit mechanical. Damage 200 K, 50 K extra for DATY. Overall, an ok experience.
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-SPA experience:
These were probably the best experience during my trip. Mainly because there was no push to buy drinks, and prices were straightforward. This was on the last day of my trip.
Diva: Facility was ok, relatively large and bright rooms, but only a small mattress on the floor. Line up of 5 girls, and they were 6-7s; went for one of the 7s who I thought was really cute with a bright smile and cute dimples. Again, turned out to be Venezuelan. Some lame DFK, but she got really excited during the main event and both of us came really hard. Asked extra for DATY which I declined. Otherwise, she had a nice personality. We chatted a bit (google translate) and I left happy and satisfied.
Sensity: nice facility, large and clean. Line up of only 3 girls, one of them was cute, maybe a 7. I took her for an hour, it was 190 K per hour. DFK and full service. It was nice. Shower, towel, everything was very clean.
Abadubai: this was probably the highlight of my trip. Again nice facility, line up of only 3 girls, but one of them was really cute with a nice smile, overall a 7 but later her looks grew on me to an 8! In the room a bit of chat through google translate and we clicked immediately. After half an hour of flirting and foreplay we were all over each other kissing and licking every inch of each other's body. Sex was out of this world. Where has she been all those days that I was in Bogota? I took her for 2 hours and it was great. My flight was the same evening, otherwise, I would have taken her back to my hotel the same night. I left with a huge smile on my face.
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-Summary and a fair comparison to my other hobby lands:
Bogota was a nice experience. I really enjoyed the trip. Nice country, nice city, nice people. I will probably repeat my trip once a year. Now I am more motivated than ever to learn Spanish. If I knew the language, probably I would have gained a lot more from my trip. Also, next time I will have more experience of where to look and what to expect.
Now comparison to Germany FKKs:
From where I live, the air tickets to Germany and Colombia is roughly the same price. I still prefer Germany FKKs to Colombia for more regular visits, for several reasons:
- It is easy to get by communicating in English both with Germans and most of the girls, who nowadays are 90% from Romania.
- I am pretty familiar with most of the clubs all across Germany now. I usually rent a car when I land in Germany and start my adventures from club to club.
- The atmosphere in most FKK clubs is just so relaxing. You can stay the whole day in the club, most of them with buffet style food that is included in the entrance fee (typically 50 to 75 Euros) and non-alcoholic drinks and very reasonable rate for alcoholic drinks. While in the club, enjoying the eye candy of naked girls walking around you is really relaxing. Nobody pushes you to buy anything or choose a girl. Specially the clubs that have a nice garden is a treat for warmer months. I usually go to the clubs around noon and stay there until after midnight, and on average get 3-5 sessions of 1 hour or longer. Shower, towels, etc, no limits and everything clean
-In my books, most Romanian girls have a killer body, but face wise, well probably just 20-30% of them are my cup of tea. Still large enough number to allow me to have lots of fun with girls that I find quite attractive both body and face wise. Girls from Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine and Russia are more palatable to my taste, but they are hard to find these days although not impossible if you know which clubs to look for them.
-Although I did not feel unsafe in Bogota, safety is not an issue at all in Germany.
-Hygiene of all girls working in FKK clubs is impeccable. I think they are regularly tested for infection, etc. In my many years of enjoying FKKs, I probably only met one girl who I could not do DATY on because of a weird smell.
-The price typically is 50 Euros for 1/2 hour and 100 Euros for 1 hour; which is comparable to Bogota if you consider the quality of the girls into account. Sometimes there are upselling for DKF, but that can be negotiated beforehand. Most of the time, if you take the girl for 1hr everything is included. But for longer / overnight arrangements, nothing beats the price in Colombia.
Again, thanks everyone for answering my questions. Hope this review helps the first timers with similar situation and taste to mine.
I would like to hear some suggestions about the resisting the club's push of buying expensive alcohol for my next trip. Or how to get better deals / choices. I have to mention I really don't drink myself.
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Areas where you find girls Prostitutes on the Street..
Following the insightful discussion that is going on in the latest posts I wanted to share this excerpt with everyone.
[B] Areas where you find girls Prostitutes on the Street of Bogota[/B]
Many streets in the Santa Fe neighborhood, in Bogota, are a classic meeting point for prostitutes, with girls of different ages and charms offering their services along the public thoroughfare.
There are also the "jailed girls" of Calle 19 , between Caracas and Carrera 13, offering their services and specialties from behind a fence, usually at cheaper prices; or on Avenida 1 de Mayo, between races 68 and 71.
According to the [URL=http://www.parces.org/]NGO Parces[/URL], which has an observatory for sex work, in addition to the Santa Fe neighborhood, other street areas where prostitution is practiced are the Plaza de la Mariposa, Terraza Pasteur and La Carrilera, in the center, and Chapinero, in the east, among others.
A study of the Chamber of Commerce conducted in 1990 on prostitution in Bogota indicates that in the central area of the capital there were at that time about 14,211 women exercising prostitution; among them, 3,282 worked in the street and the rest in 1,087 establishments. 3480 exercised in the same condition in the Chapinero area.
Over the years, these figures must have gone up a lot, adding also the recent arrival of [URL=https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota/venezolanas]Venezuelans prostitutes in the Colombian streets[/URL].
[B] The "Red Light District" of Bogota.[/B]
Saving the distances, as Amsterdam has its prestigious Red Light District, the city of Bogot has a large area dedicated to prostitution, whose main focus, at street level, is the so-called "zone of tolerance" in Santa Fe.
[URL=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY4_Bbxq08I]Video (spanish): Las calles del SANTA FE... La zona de TOLERANCIA[/URL]
The Santa Fe neighborhood is located between 25th and 19th streets, between Av Caracas and Carrera 24. Inside, the tolerance zone is located, located between 19th and 22nd streets, between Av Caracas and Carrera 17 .
The first officially declared tolerance zone is located in the Alameda sector, between the towns of Santa Fe and LOS Mrtires, including streets 19 to 24 and Caracas to carrera 17, where several sexual establishments have been operating for some time.
This was established by Decree 188 of 2002, including five areas of tolerance for the exercise of prostitution in Bogot, located in the center, west and north of the city.
In these areas you will find good prices and guaranteed sexual pleasure. Of course, it is not recommended to walk only these parts until late at night, although the area has enough police presence.
If you are looking for princesses or university girls offering sex for money, this place is not yours. But if you're wanting to empty the tank with a hot, big-boobed woman, here you'll feel at home.
In its dark corners and streets and even a little dark, you will get to see Colombian meat everywhere, from tall, fat, skinny, blonde, trans. What you imagine and more.
Those looking for even more accessible alternatives, on Calle 19, between Caracas and Carrera 13, are the so-called "lattices".
They are girls that you will not see walking or wandering the streets, as they provide their services from behind a fence, which can add an extra fee for the most morbid.
In addition to brothels or large whiskeys where girls offer their sexual services, in these streets that make up the zone of tolerance you can also find a lot of motels, which from the outside are like garages, where inside are the girls and the rooms.
On Caracas Avenue, between 55th and 63rd Street, there are several street prostitutes not very nice (as always, it depends on each palate and individual filter), elderly transvestites or even very young children offering their body.
[B] Avenida Primero de Mayo (First of May Avenue)[/B]
Rumba zone and nighttime entertainment, along Primero de Mayo Avenue, between Carrera 68 and Avenida de Cali, near Mc Donald's, you can also see many working girls and even trans hams.
This area is in the south of the city and welcomes several brothels, although some of them, at first glance, it is not known if they are discotheques, gay clubs, strip club or what. Just in case, ask before entering.
On Avenida Primero de Mayo between races 68 and 71 you can see young girls walking through the streets as if it were a catwalk, waiting between cigar and cigar.
Bogota casas or good quick incall
I'm going to Bogota this week alone but am staying with Inlaws, I got to be cool but I do speak some decent Spanish. About 15 years ago I went to a casa near Chapinero from the classifieds section. It was a lifeless fuck with stretchmsrked chica all covered for 15.
Not interested in abejitas, all mechanical hustlers there too imo. If anyone knows a quality incall near galleria's or Chapinero. Some member here posted a link to real escorts that looks good. My only requisite is I need BBBJ, I'm not 24 anymore do require real stimulation and the whole CBJ ruins it for me. Feel free to pm any info or digits.
Thank you, I'll be sure to make a report.