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Miari is obviously cheaper and you can get more out of the ladies there. For example, having sex twice for 70K. The ladies are mostly willing to deal with you, but some are quite mechanical. The skill varies too as does how these ladies look. Some looks decent, but others are just boring.

Itaewon is far more expensive, but from my experience, and people like Kimchi Warrior, if you establish loyalty and good relations, you can get more out of them. I used to see a couple of women on the Hill who I got to have sex with as many times as I could cram in an hour or so at the same price some men only paid for one pop (I'm not telling who though). Also the skill and appearance quality is better here.

I haven't been to Itaewon since I've been back, but it'll happen soon I'm sure. I want to see if my old favorites are there as the ones in Yongsan and Cheonyaggi are gone.

In short, if you're an average guy living here, go shop around in Miari, saying "Du-Bon" (two times) and get your money's worth. If you're a visitor for a couple of days, or have a birthday, go all out on Itaewon.

[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy;1152124]but I honestly feel like, if you're not Asian, Cheonyanggi SUCKS. There's no reason to go.[/QUOTE]I've seen this said all over the forum, and frankly I don't understand why so many people are having trouble. I'm a 6'0 tall hairy white American with very broken Korean. During my time in Seoul, I went to Cheonyanggi three times, and all three times it took less than 15 minutes of exploration to find a hot girl willing to have me a customer.

Yes, you will get shooed away by some of the girls, but at least a third of them tried to catch me eye each evening. With a selection like that, I was in freaking heaven. I didn't even bother going to Itaewon or Miari (though I'm certainly going to on my next trip).

In Hongdae.

There are alot of "Kiss Bangs" and "Thai Massages".

I assume in Kiss Bangs you only get to kiss and touch, and Thai Massages are basically a nude body to body massage right?

What places do FS in Hongdae? Any suggestions?

I actually tried a Thai Massage yesterday in Suwon and after asking if there was any 'service' that I can pay abit extra for I was given a repeated 'no' by the manager there.

But during my massage the thai lady (I think she was philipino not thai) kept brushing her hand against my johnson and giggling (I was wearing a gown, not nude) then after a few brushes she whispered in my ear if I wanted a HJ for what I assumed was 30000 won (3 fingers up) and I immediately said yes.

So she was giving me a HJ but I was extremely drunk at that time and no matter how much she tried I wouldn't come LOL. Was abit embarassing for me actually since I felt abit sorry for her and I don't think she was allowed to do these things technically since everytime she thought someone was going to come in the room, she would immediately put my pants back on and start massaging me. Then we would have to start from the beginning.

I was allowed to touch her breasts as much as I wanted but she wouldn't take off her bra so I was forced to get a feel from underneath. Again, it felt like it was very much a secret sort of thing and I don't think she would do it for anyone. I'm quite young and I got on with her quite well since I speak a little bit of malay and we joked around a little bit so definitely you won't normally get these kind of services unless you get along fairly well and there was no way to get anything else other than a HJ. I tried to get her to give me a BJ but she wouldn't go for it, let alone a FS.

And after an incredibly long HJ, she went to licking my nipples and biting my ears to get me abit more excited which kind of did work but yeh. I think it was at least a good 40 minutes before I finally came. Maybe more because I paid for a 2 hour session.

[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1152737]I actually tried a Thai Massage yesterday in Suwon.

But during my massage the thai lady (I think she was philipino not thai).

I'm quite young and I got on with her quite well since I speak a little bit of malay and we joked around a little bit. [/QUOTE]I'm a bit confused by your report. You were at a Thai massage shop in Korea, with a provider that you think was Filipino, but you joked with her by speaking Malay? In my limited experience, I have mistakenly assumed that some Thai girls were Filipino, and vice-versa. But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai. And they spoke more Korean than any other language except their own. Maybe the alcohol you had before the session caused more problems than the lack of ability to cum quickly. :D

HW

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1152747]But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai.[/QUOTE]Then the massage places are getting brave. It is very much illegal for a non-Korean to work in a massage parlour. I know because I tried to open up my own a few years ago (I am a licenced RMT back in Canada). The way the law is written, foreigners cannot work in nor own a massage business. The rationale being the gov't wants to prevent [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] of foreign women to staff the rub-and-tugs.

[QUOTE=Brian 3232;1152927]Can someone post some more HJ places like Cool and Belle? I know theres Angel right up the street, but how about in other areas besides the Bang Bang area? I heard theres tons in Seoul. Surprisingly only people talkin about cool and belle on this board. I don't go to belle anymore since the quality of girls went down.[/QUOTE]I'll just put these up here just in case anyone wants to feel like calling up these places and asking. Sorry but they don't have their specific locations, but maybe if your Korean is good enough you guys might get lucky. I was going to put an approximate location for one of my favorite places, but they seem to have been busted :/

[QUOTE=Brian 3232;1152927]Can someone post some more HJ places like Cool and Belle? I know theres Angel right up the street, but how about in other areas besides the Bang Bang area? I heard theres tons in Seoul. Surprisingly only people talkin about cool and belle on this board. I don't go to belle anymore since the quality of girls went down.[/QUOTE]I'm back in Seoul now and I just got back from the Sporex on the 8th floor of the Koreana hotel. It's been posted on here before, but that was over a year ago. The price for entrance to the sauna is 18K, and the massage with handjob cost me 110K. My masseuse was a little older than the ones I got the last time I was there (over a year ago) but she was still pretty cute and she gave a fantastic massage and really beat my dick good at the end. It's pricey, though.

I'll have to check out some spots in Gangnam sometime, but as you mentioned, the last time I went to Belle the quality was quite lower than before, so I stopped going too.

Forgot to mention I strolled up the Hill last night. Very little turnover from last year it seems. I noticed a couple bars no longer exist. Moulin Rouge is gone and in its place is either a travel agency or an Arab restaurant; I can't remember which. Anyone know which bar Nara works at now?

Another question, any info on the girl with tats at Moon Shine bar?

Oh how I hate it when I type a long report and I somehow time out. Arggh! I will try to recapture my six paragraphs of thoughts. But, as Sade says,"it's never as good as the first time."

Just got back from my second consecutive night at Belle. I made two visits there the last time I was in town too. This time, as was the case last time, I am batting 1 for 2. While. 500 would be amazing in baseball, the ratio should be better in this hobby. Last night I drew a cute spinner with an adorable face, braces, and pert B-cups. The service was standard and the cuddling, Kanglish, and mutual fondling lasted until the one-hour knock. Money well spent.

Tonight I tempted fate and did not ask for the same girl (she was working). I figured I might get someone even better, but alas I did not. She wasn't terrible, but her lack of English didn't allow for any chemistry. After the perfunctory massage and other activities, we still had half-an-hour left to speak gibberish at each other. Since she wasn't cuddling and I could only go through my list of favorite Korean foods and banal pocket dictionary phrases so many times, I hit the showers early.

I am wondering if any of you locals would PM me with the names of any girls at Belle or Cool (or Cleopatra or Ivy or VIP, etc.) or other big-white-guy friendly establishments of this ilk that speak enough English, or who have enough body language communication to make the full hour enjoyable? I don't always need FS, and I love the amenities like showers and 60 minute time-frame at these places when compared to the Hill or the barren RLD wasteland in Seoul. The lower price point isn't bad either! I just want to feel like the girl and I can connect on some basic level. She doesn't have to want me, but I'd at least like the illusion of some sort of connection, however superficial and fleeting. Oh, and if she is a busty gorgeous spinner, that would be okay too. Yeah, now I am dreaming. Sorry!

As always, more details available to seniors who PM. Thanks, all. I love this thread, even when I am at home!

[QUOTE=Coitus68;1152818]Then the massage places are getting brave. It is very much illegal for a non-Korean to work in a massage parlour. I know because I tried to open up my own a few years ago (I am a licenced RMT back in Canada). The way the law is written, foreigners cannot work in nor own a massage business. The rationale being the gov't wants to prevent [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] of foreign women to staff the rub-and-tugs.[/QUOTE]I believe you Coitus68. I know the massage shops I went to were owned by Koreans. I'm sure there had to be some sort of pay off going on between the owners and the authorities. These massage shops were in Daegu. Some of the girls told me that they would come to Korea for only 3 months at a time and return home. They also said there were many cities around Korea where they have worked, including Incheon and Seoul.

HW

[QUOTE=Gildo;1152999]I'll just put these up here just in case anyone wants to feel like calling up these places and asking. Sorry but they don't have their specific locations, but maybe if your Korean is good enough you guys might get lucky. I was going to put an approximate location for one of my favorite places, but they seem to have been busted :/[/QUOTE]Hey Gildo, thank you so much for posting that information. Do you think you can e-mail me those documents? I can't open the files since I don't have a membership and unfortunately can't sign up for one during the time I am here. I made an email account:

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Thank you so much again.

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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1153107]I'm sure there had to be some sort of pay off going on between the owners and the authorities.[/quote]Well, ALL of them have to hand out the payola. Yes, non-Koreans aren't allowed to work there by law, but neither are sighted Koreans: the only people LEGALLY allowed (technically speaking) to work in massage parlours are blind people.

[quote]Some of the girls told me that they would come to Korea for only 3 months at a time and return home.[/quote]Sure. Come over on a tourist visa, work for three months, and leave before the visa expires. Even if they pay their own ticket over, they can still bank enough money in three months to make the trip worthwhile.

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1152747]I'm a bit confused by your report. You were at a Thai massage shop in Korea, with a provider that you think was Filipino, but you joked with her by speaking Malay? In my limited experience, I have mistakenly assumed that some Thai girls were Filipino, and vice-versa. But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai. And they spoke more Korean than any other language except their own. Maybe the alcohol you had before the session caused more problems than the lack of ability to cum quickly. .

HW[/QUOTE]Haha sorry if my report confused you but I think what I reported is what happened? Or maybe I was too drunk hahaha. But yeh I'm pretty sure she told me she was Filipino but she was speaking what I'm pretty sure was thai to her friend who was massaging my friend in the same room. I lived in Malaysia for 4 years so I could speak the basics like greetings, saying thank you, counting from 1 to 10 and they loved it! Since Thailand is right next to Malaysia, I think both countries have at least a grasp of each other's languages. But yeh anyway she told me she was Filipino but she could have been anything. Anyway I apologise if my report is a little hazy, I just wrote down what I remember, which is pretty much close to nothing. Except for the fact that I couldn't come fast enough.

Had been to Seoul a few years back, and had some good (and not so good) times on the Hill in Itaewan. I remember a gal named Soo-ae at Peach Phuzz giving the most amazing AR. Does anyone know if she still works there (or anywhere else)? Can anyone provide details on any other notable talent on the hill? (AR / DT / BBJCIM specialists preferred)

I met a girl at the corner of the main intersection.

She was very talkative in the beginning but later kept negotiating.

A Ten Pro (super pretty) but Service was too fast and overcharged.

Girls seem to be After performing my maneuver there was a hotter girl in another room with another guy (damn!)

Looks: 8. 5.

Service 2 (too fast, waited at the window when we finished) but BBFS.

Repeat? Maybe not.

I will try Miari or Cheonho next time.