Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Escort4Us;1726764]All I know, is that I'd be happy spending some quality time in a warm jaccuzi, with some warm wimmin. .

ID buy that steak. .[/QUOTE]Better you go to a love motel than.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1726776]Better you go to a love motel than.[/QUOTE]My remote control will be "Press A for food, Press be for wimminz".

[QUOTE=Escort4Us;1726426]That's not low standards.

That's good economics.

Its a hobby after all, not a 30 yr mortgage. .[/QUOTE]This is not the question. The question is that those who have their steaks at McDonald think that they are better (and wiser) than those who are eating AAA steaks because at the end they are paying less. You'll never see people coming to this board and mocking the hobbyists that are paying lower end garotas de programa. But on the other hand there is a score of guys barking at hobbyists that are paying the big bucks for female companionship. As I said, I am not one of these guys but I respect their choice.

I receive a lot of PM asking me for high end garota de programa and most of them asking for this type of hobbying are motivated by the desire to share their time with a sophisticated (I. E. Habitually with an university degree, speaking several languages, well dressed with fine lingeries, well mannered, well traveled, working in a classy and well decorated venue, etc). For the ones looking for high end garota the sex in itself is only a part of the whole session while for those who are looking for low end garota (working habitually in sleazy and crowded places) are probably motivated by the desire to f. You. . see. K. As many garota de programa as they can in a day or in a week. High end hobbyists have other goals. To each is own.

This is a free market: if there are people who want to pay more money and spend their evening (or night) in a nicer environment you must remember that it is their choice. They are not these otário (idiots or suckers) than necessarily end up in tourist traps. In fact, astute high end hobbyist don't even visit tourist traps. They know the underground madams in São Paulo. [Please don't ask me the name of these madams: it is a kind private club or society. Personally I don't know all of them. I only know that this underground network exists. I know a couple of garotas that are working in those places that's all. And as I'm not a cafetao (pimp) (taking money in exchange for information or facilitating a contact with any freelance garota, prive, club or boate) don't ask me intel on these places because you must be introduced by a member which is already familiar with highend garotas (and as I said this is not my cup of tea. And it is beyond my budget).

Since the time I'm hobbying in Sao Paulo (2005) I am still following the advice from my mentor Gringo Aposentado: (don't spend more than are $200 on a session! Well it was ten years ago. Now I can go up to are $300/ are $400. (Keep in mind that nowadays I don't hobby anymore alone. I have a regular GF and we book together garota for a (ménage à trois) (threesome) or we visit swing clubs.

[QUOTE=SuiGeneris;1726894]This is not the question. The question is that those who have their steaks at McDonald think that they are better (and wiser) than those who are eating AAA steaks because at the end they are paying less. You'll never see people coming to this board and mocking the hobbyists that are paying lower end garotas de programa. But on the other hand there is a score of guys barking at hobbyists that are paying the big bucks for female companionship. As I said, I am not one of these guys but I respect their choice.
[/QUOTE]This is my last word on the matter. I've been living in Brazil for 5 years and visiting for 10. My point is that (obviously in my opinion) you can find 10 girls at Miruna (example) who if you put them in nicer dresses would be among the hottest at Cafe Foto.

You think you're getting better steak at Cafe Foto but you're not. You're getting the equivalent of a Big Mac in fancy wrapping paper. I keep trying to share this info so you don't *have* to pay BRL 900 plus BRL 200 entrada. But keep on doing it if you want.

Since obviously my comment will convince none of you, I'm done trying to help.

-Cartman.

I didn't realise my post on Cafe Photo was going to spark this debate. To be clear, I don't see Eric Cartman's post as "bashing", but good advice, which I appreciate. I don't regret going to Cafe Photo, and I still don't feel that I overpaid, but my takeaway is that Sao Paulo has much more to offer, and that you need to take the time if you want to get the best of it. Next trip I will be sure to try some of the Termas. If I haven't decided to marry Carolina instead.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1726915]This is my last word on the matter. I've been living in Brazil for 5 years and visiting for 10. My point is that (obviously in my opinion) you can find 10 girls at Miruna (example) who if you put them in nicer dresses would be among the hottest at Cafe Foto.

You think you're getting better steak at Cafe Foto but you're not. You're getting the equivalent of a Big Mac in fancy wrapping paper. I keep trying to share this info so you don't *have* to pay BRL 900 plus BRL 200 entrada. But keep on doing it if you want.

Since obviously my comment will convince none of you, I'm done trying to help.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]Amigos, like Cartman, I make reports and give advice.

From experience.

To help, not to harass.

If a guy heeds the advice, great. If not, that's Okay too.

I could really care less what a guy pays a garota for service, afterall, it's his money right.

Doesn't affect one bit what I pay.

One a side note.

I've befriended girls that work at Cafe Foto, that also work at Casarao, and believe it or not, that also work at some of the low end trash places.

To each their own, we all have our process.

Have fun!

I visited both Rio and Sao Paulo recently. I hooked up with ABG to help me navigate the scene. I normally travel solo and it was nice to have a wingman. Even more so someone who speaks the language and can give me recommendations on quality of service. From my brief experience, Sao Paulo is a much better spot than Rio, at better cost, in my limited experience. I had best service at Miruna and Enjoy. Many thanks to ABG for his support, and I now call him a friend. For those who want to have a local help them around, I highly recommend ABG.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1726915]This is my last word on the matter. I've been living in Brazil for 5 years and visiting for 10. My point is that (obviously in my opinion) you can find 10 girls at Miruna (example) who if you put them in nicer dresses would be among the hottest at Cafe Foto.

You think you're getting better steak at Cafe Foto but you're not. You're getting the equivalent of a Big Mac in fancy wrapping paper. I keep trying to share this info so you don't *have* to pay BRL 900 plus BRL 200 entrada. But keep on doing it if you want.

Since obviously my comment will convince none of you, I'm done trying to help.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]Cartman I'm 100 % with you, I'm a native Paulistano, 40 years of mongering in this town and I know from experience that going to those places is a complete waste of time and money.

If you think you are eating a filet mignon you are wrong, you are eating the same BigMac wrapped in fancier wrappings. I now many girls from the clinicas who go there once a week just to catch some "rookie fish" at Café Photo.

If you want really a special girl you must be in the "ficha rosa " circuit of models, but this is another story.

That's my last word on this issue.

ABG.

Bruna Carioca is going to be at Enjoy SPA today, tomorrow she travels to Rio de Janeiro.

ABG.

Can you please give me the address for Miruna's and Enjoy SPA?

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1727079]Bruna Carioca is going to be at Enjoy SPA today, tomorrow she travels to Rio de Janeiro.

ABG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1727079]Bruna Carioca is going to be at Enjoy SPA today, tomorrow she travels to Rio de Janeiro.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Bruna is going to be in Sao Paulo during this weekend, she will be at Enjoy SPA all days except Sunday, where she will be at MIRUNA.

ABG.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1727079]Bruna Carioca is going to be at Enjoy SPA today, tomorrow she travels to Rio de Janeiro.

ABG.[/QUOTE]Just came back from Enjoy SPA. Six girls on the late night shift.

Beatriz and Mirela, two new girls at Enjoy SPA started today.

ABG.

Adriana, gorgeous big mulata XXXL boobs, XXXL bunda, nice looking 100% Bahiana.

Very GFE, DFK, DATY, ANAL, one of best BBBJ / CIM.

Very well recomended!

My friend went with Grazzie, the small russian girl.

ABG.

[QUOTE=JasonWang;1727095]Can you please give me the address for Miruna's and Enjoy SPA?[/QUOTE]Enjoy Spa. Are. Condessa do Pinhal, 279 - Campo Belo - (11) 3569-5250 - 3569-5250 / are $ 210.

Normal: are $ 210,00 (in cash) or are $ 220,00 (credit card).

Discount for regulars of the house: are $ 180,00 in cash) or are $ 190,00 (with a credit card).

CLínica Miruna's. Avenida Miruna, 644 - Moema. Tel. : (11) 5041-9023 / (11) 3569-1059 - 11 5041-9023 / are $ 210.

Are $ 150 1/2 h; are $ 210 h.

[QUOTE=SuiGeneris;1727290]Enjoy Spa. Are. Condessa do Pinhal, 279 - Campo Belo - (11) 3569-5250 - 3569-5250 / are $ 210.

Normal: are $ 210,00 (in cash) or are $ 220,00 (credit card).

Discount for regulars of the house: are $ 180,00 in cash) or are $ 190,00 (with a credit card).

CLnica Miruna's. Avenida Miruna, 644 - Moema. Tel. : (11) 5041-9023 / (11) 3569-1059 - 11 5041-9023 / are $ 210.

Are $ 150 1/2 h; are $ 210 h.[/QUOTE]Yesterday late shift at Enjoy:

Paty.

Mirella.

Beatriz.

Suzy.

Alice.

Lorena.

Lara.

Ellen.

Lilian.

Vanessa (Miruna).