Warsaw

Visited Polina last weekend again.

Same amazing experience as before: truly fantastic and deeply sensual massage, I'the call it high-end quality.

But please note: the rules remain the same. Read carefully, and if you're hoping for "extras", this is the wrong place.

There are a few updates:

1. First, she's changed location. The neighborhood is still the same, but the apartment is new.

(Downside: there's almost no parking available, so I had real problem with rented car, better take a taxi!

2. Cleanliness has always been one of her strong points, but now she's switched to disposable bed sheets something I haven't seen in any other place in Warsaw.

3. Also, she has a new ad with what I think are even more realistic to real experience and recent photos:

[URL]https://www.escort.club/personal-ads/167944.html[/URL]

Getting an appointment with her has become noticeably harder now.

She says herself: "I'm not a machine," so despite the promising availability in her ad, you should now expect to book at least 2 to 3 days in advance.

It seems she has more than enough clients, and a price increase is likely coming this summer as she told.

So guys, if you haven't yet experienced this true massage gem of Warsaw, now is the time 😁.

One last practical tip the building where her new salon is located has an ultra-modern elevator.

I stood there for several minutes trying to figure it out 🧐.

You need to select the floor from the touchscreen first or just call Polina if you get stuck.

I can confirm the reviews of all the noble dons about Polina.

[URL]https://www.escort.club/personal-ads/167944.html[/URL]

I can't say it was the best massage I've ever had, but the whole combination of factors (Polina herself, the way she behaved, the atmosphere) make her massage offer one of the best offers in Warsaw. I will definitely try to visit Polina on my next visit to Warsaw.

The elevator, of course, defeated me, but Polina helped.

Hola Amigo,

Glad that you enjoyed the time with her. I had another report where I repeated with her and session experience was different. So it is different on different days. But overall, it seems good as you have mentioned. .

[QUOTE=WinstonMayona;2995081][URL]https://touchmagic.pl/ALINA.html[/URL]

I've been trying to meet with Alina for quite some time. Based, both on positive reviews as well as the ecstatic feedback from Mexican lover. Unfortunately, they're quite busy and when I tried to contact them in the evenings, Alina is unavailable.

Since I had time in the evening earlier than usual, I messaged them in the afternoon and scheduled a meeting with Alina and was able to finally meet her. As mentioned by several others, she is talkative and friendly. Is good at customer relations and building a rapport.

Once inside she guides you, helps you take off your coat, gives you a towel, explains where things are, etc. Asks if you'd like water, coffee, or tea. Once I returned from my shower, she asked me to lay on the massage table facing down. She came back in a few minutes and started the massage. She asked if I wanted just the legs and back, or the whole body, and also how much pressure. I opted for the stronger massage, which was fine, not too much pressure honestly speaking.

She spent the bulk of the time massaging the calves and thighs. Next the neck and shoulders. The massage was okay, not a disaster, but not very memorable. Jula's massage at MD is much better. Also, most of the MT Imperium girls offer better massages. Simply put, Magia Dotyku is not recommended for massage.

After this she moved to some erotic touches between the legs, going a little deeper each time. Then, she asked me to roll over, while still on the massage bed. She continued massaging in some very erotic ways, which was quite arousing. She also advised that we could move to the bed at any point and asked me to let her know when I was ready. The technique was really good, so I stayed on the massage bed and let her continue for 5 minutes. While here, she was wearing a tiny black bra and panty, as well as stockings.

Once we moved to the bed, she took off the bra, put some oil on herself and started the body to body. After a few slides on top, she moved down, positioning herself for the blow job. She is very good with building slow eroticism. She did this both during the massage and before starting the blowjob, paying ample attention to the balls. The BJ was uncovered and the technique was very good, starting slow with the mixed-use of hand and mouth in different styles. It was sloppy and wet.

The experience was very good, and not rushed at all. I later asked her to come up, sucked her breasts, which were natural but small. She's clearly a butt girl, so if you're looking for a shapely firm ass, she'd be perfect. I asked if I could I take off her panties, which she readily agreed to, and then we went into some 69. Unfortunately, we were running low on time, so it was limited, and we had to wrap-up quickly. We finished with a blowjob, which she took mostly in her mouth, letting it drip out towards the end. She cleaned me, gave me a quick thigh massage, and then sent me off for a shower. Once back, I got dressed, paid her 300 PLN, plus a tip, and left.

Setup - 9/10.

Apartment 7/10.

Massage 6/10.

Erotic Element 9/10.

Atmosphere 8/10.

Would I return? Certainly. I plan to go back.[/QUOTE]

From my experience, I totally agree with you, WinstonMayona.

Fox Sex, it's a bet. For erotic massage, there are some great places that you've mentioned.

What I have done this time, I have selected only girls with WhatsApp contact and I have sent them a message a few days before travelling. Some, have not answered. Some have answered and I have set up the first meeting with WhatsApp. Quite all of them do not give their right address. They just confirmed the services and sometime the cost. They gave the right address a few hours before the meeting or the day before. After you need the Entrance code, the floor, the appartement number. I've got them a few minutes before the meeting when I was next the the address. With WhatsApp, it is easier than by phone if they don't speak English.

[QUOTE=WinstonMayona;2995078]Thanks for sharing all your reports Member #1998.

Warsaw is indeed tricky, and has a steep learning curve. Many of the ads are fake, there is neither English as advertised, nor the services mentioned. The photos are often not accurate either.

For the freelance full-service options, its always better to go with someone who has been reviewed. Else there is a high probability of a dud.

The established massage parlors are fairly reliable, and a safe bet. (Touch Magic, Sky Massage, Mystic Touch, MT (Imperium).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#1998;2997000]Quite all of them do not give their right address. They just confirmed the services and sometime the cost. They gave the right address a few hours before the meeting or the day before. After you need the Entrance code, the floor, the appartement number. I've got them a few minutes before the meeting when I was next the the address. With WhatsApp, it is easier than by phone if they don't speak English.[/QUOTE]Usually they give you the address near their building and when you go there you have to call them to receive the entrance code of the building. They are watching you from the window. If they don't like you, they do not answer.

[QUOTE=Savsiem;2997190]Usually they give you the address near their building and when you go there you have to call them to receive the entrance code of the building. They are watching you from the window. If they don't like you, they do not answer.[/QUOTE]And that is actually quite normal.

I am always wondering how brave they must be to work that way alone.

A good service is always a 2-way-street.

There are always bastards who think that with their 300 or 700 zlotes they can demand everything (no they can not! And a high level specialtist (massager or else) will just not accept them as client or kick them out if was not lucky enough to not accept them at first place at all). Good service provider can always and everytwhere choose clients. Lady offering some srvice is not a frie brigade, who MUST do something. No, they do not have any obligation to accept client and even less to accept clients demands what oppose what girl was / is offering in her ad.

As well there was always a girls who just cheat customers by stealing customers time (mostly I saw it in massage parlors) or not making what was offered.

And that is the point of this forum! To share both: good and bad experiences.

This is actually my first post here on Intl, been more of a lurker absorbing what info I can when I travel. I was in Warsaw at the start of the month for 7 days and had 6 good-to-great experiences that I wanted to share, but feel free to ask follow-ups here or via DM.

FWIW, All communication was done via Telegram. I had contacted everyone below except Tantric Paradise in advance of my arriving in Poland. I'll also be honest and say that my 52-year-old body doesn't always cooperate, and jet lag etc doesn't help so I indulged in more massages than straight up sex etc.

DAY ONE. Kira at TouchMagic.

I messaged Touch Magic when after I landed and I believe I had arranged to see Anita at 7. An hour or so before I was to go, they messaged saying that Anita had to leave early and of the 2 others working I went with Kira. I had seen the post (s) recently about TouchMagic and what stood out was that OWO was also included. Now I must say, finding the entry to the building on Sienna 86 was not the easiest, and the building and room etc was pretty run down (lots of dark hallways etc). Kira was alright, but it was my least favorite experience. She did not speak much English, but we managed to get by. She saw me in, had me shower alone down the hall, and then skipped the massage table and had me lay on my stomach on the mattress on the floor. The massage was decent but not great, and Kira may have been a few years older than the 30-year-old TM claims. A little heavier, too. What was weird was during the nuru massage, I would occasionally feel something scraping against me. She generally kept her top covered but I think it may have been one of her piercings. But the OWO was good. She couldn't get me to release a second time when she tried at the end, but two pops in even a couple of hours is generally not something I can do anymore.

PRICE: $70 EU.

RATING: 5 of 10.

DAY TWO. Bella at Tantric Paradise Spa.

I almost gave TM another shot since they were close, but I noticed another place that was also within 10 min of my hotel and I'm so glad I did. This place was really nice, the rooms had a great look, they all had showers in them (one had a sauna) and mirrors on the side walls and even the ceiling so you could get a really great view. Bella was 19 or so, I think, long brown hair, a few tattoos and a stellar body. She seemed a bit shy though and I wrote it off to her not knowing much English, but I learned from reception later in the week that they thought she was fluent so maybe it was just me. And on the note of reception, I'll add that the two women I saw there over the week were smoking hot as well and super helpful. Anyway, Bella had me shower and then get on my back and finished me off with her hand. I'm giving her a higher rating mostly for her amazing body. Oh and Tantric has a punch card where every 6th massage is 50% off.

PRICE: $100 EU ($20 tip to house in box up front).

RATING: 8 of 10.

DAY THREE. Maria Saint Love via EuroGirls.

This girl. Wow. I had booked her weeks out and even sent a deposit since I had trust that she was legit. Red head with a very Scarlett Johannsen vibe facially. She met me in my hotel lobby bar and we chatted a bit over wine before heading up stairs where she quickly initiated the fun. This was one of those perfect GFE experiences where the girl just makes you feel so comfortable and the way she made eye contact was straight out Oscar-worthy. If I asked her to do something she followed my instructions so well and incorporated it into the rest of our time together. There was a ton of kissing and mutual oral. I told her early on that my old man body doesn't always behave like I want it to and it wasn't her but actual intercourse might not happen, and I forget what she said exactly but it was so comforting and sexy. We did end up fucking with her riding me in cowgirl, but at the end of the day I threw a pillow down on the ground for her knees and she sucked me dry while maintaining eye contact and drooling sloppy saliva all over my cock. I wrote a bit more about her in the review I posted on EuroG if anyone is interested.

PRICE: $750 EU for 3 hrs.

RATING: 10 of 10.

DAY FOUR.

Dinner with co-workers, much wine and pierogi were had, and I needed a rest!

DAY FIVE Milena at Tantric Paradise Spa.

Wow, Milena. A bit of a sliding scale here but this girl was just so damn erotic and kinky. She showered me (Bella didn't on Day 2), but aside from the way she touched me what really got me going was how she basically dry humped me during nuru. Then when I flipped, she wrapped her hands around my throat, had me take her fingers down my throat, gave the ol' prostate a bit more attention then it was expecting. Spectacular and I wish I had the chance to see her again but she wasnt working the next couple of days while I was in town.

PRICE: $100 EU ($20 tip to house in box up front, and $20 directly to Milena).

RATING: 9. 5 of 10.

DAY SIX. Vanessa at Tantric Paradise Spa.

Where as Milena the night before was kinky and exotic, Vanessa was sensual and hypnotic. I don't know if anyone has ever had me in such a trance but something about her touch was just so intoxicating. She showered me both at the start and finish. My body was spent from cumming (3) times the day before but it was still waves of ecstasy.

PRICE: $100 EU ($20 tip to house, and I think I may have given Vanessa an extra $20 directly as well).

RATING: 9 of 10.

DAY SEVEN. Victoria via Poland Prestige.

Ok first of all. I love this agency. They communicate so well, and have a Telegram channel where they send updates on who is available every day, with pictures and info on what each girl does. Victoria was one of the ones that really stood out. 19 years old, petite brunette, OWO, etc. While they blur faces of the girls on the channel, after we confirmed details they sent an expiring message that showed her face. I've gotten the bait and switch where when the girl shows up she is clearly not who you wanted, or the pics are 10 yrs old, or Photoshopped to death. That wasn't the case here at all. Oh and there was no up-sell, which I also hate, as I've had experiences where the agency says the girls will do one thing but when they show they nickel and dime you for every little thing.

Anyway, I had relocated to a hotel adjacent to the airport for my last night in town as I had to be at the airport at 3 AM. She met me in the lobby and my fears of her not being as pictured were instantly alleviated. We had a lot of fun, she thought my massage of her was pro-level (Yes, I do travel with my own massage oil thank you very much), but it was one of those situations where you sacrifice someone acting like she is really into everything the two of you are doing in exchange for time with a beautiful 19 yo. It was the little things that I picked up on, like her eyes closed a lot or not really listening to some requests like eye contact and more spit during OWO. Or when they need a bit of a chaser of water after CIM compared to some (see Day Three) who were ravenous for every drop they could squeeze out of me. Like Day Three though, we finished with me in a chair and her on her knees. I'd 100% see her again but first would likely work through the others at Prestige that are more of the GFE experience, which to be fair her ad did not say she was.

PRICE: $650 EU for 2 hrs ($300 EU / hour plus $50 CIM add-on).

RATING: 9 of 10.

I had a lot of other massage places I had hoped to go to, as well as another agency, but in the end didn't need them as the above girls made me a very happy traveler.

One last thing. I think my mission in life is to find one magical GFE OWO CIM DATY goddess (preferably Brunette, preferably petite) in every city I frequent. I now have this in Poland with Maria, and have someone in Vancouver BC Canada and Stockholm, Sweden. I need this person in The Netherlands and Germany as those are two frequent stops for me, so if an mongers out there have any suggestions I'd love to hear them here or via DM.

We get the fact that you're loaded but you do not need to give these levels off ridiculous tips and spoil the market. This isn't America. Thank God.

[QUOTE=MaxEnigma;2999305]This is actually my first post here on Intl, been more of a lurker absorbing what info I can when I travel. I was in Warsaw at the start of the month for 7 days and had 6 good-to-great experiences that I wanted to share, but feel free to ask follow-ups here or via DM.

FWIW, All communication was done via Telegram. I had contacted everyone below except Tantric Paradise in advance of my arriving in Poland. I'll also be honest and say that my 52-year-old body doesn't always cooperate, and jet lag etc doesn't help so I indulged in more massages than straight up sex etc.

DAY ONE. Kira at TouchMagic.

I messaged Touch Magic when after I landed and I believe I had arranged to see Anita at 7. An hour or so before I was to go, they messaged saying that Anita had to leave early and of the 2 others working I went with Kira. I had seen the post (s) recently about TouchMagic and what stood out was that OWO was also included. Now I must say, finding the entry to the building on Sienna 86 was not the easiest, and the building and room etc was pretty run down (lots of dark hallways etc)..[/QUOTE]

Thank you, Max, for sharing this amazingly insightful and detailled report!!

One question. I was trying to find Victoria from Poalnd Prestige, but was not able to google the agency. Would you have any further detail? Many thanks!

[QUOTE=MaxEnigma;2999305]DAY SEVEN. Victoria via Poland Prestige.

Ok first of all. I love this agency. They communicate so well, and have a Telegram channel where they send updates on who is available every day, with pictures and info on what each girl does. Victoria was one of the ones that really stood out. 19 years old, petite brunette, OWO, etc. While they blur faces of the girls on the channel, after we confirmed details they sent an expiring message that showed her face. I've gotten the bait and switch where when the girl shows up she is clearly not who you wanted, or the pics are 10 yrs old, or Photoshopped to death. That wasn't the case here at all. Oh and there was no up-sell, which I also hate, as I've had experiences where the agency says the girls will do one thing but when they show they nickel and dime you for every little thing.

Anyway, I had relocated to a hotel adjacent to the airport for my last night in town as I had to be at the airport at 3 AM. She met me in the lobby and my fears of her not being as pictured were instantly alleviated. We had a lot of fun, she thought my massage of her was pro-level (Yes, I do travel with my own massage oil thank you very much), but it was one of those situations where you sacrifice someone acting like she is really into everything the two of you are doing in exchange for time with a beautiful 19 yo. It was the little things that I picked up on, like her eyes closed a lot or not really listening to some requests like eye contact and more spit during OWO. Or when they need a bit of a chaser of water after CIM compared to some (see Day Three) who were ravenous for every drop they could squeeze out of me. Like Day Three though, we finished with me in a chair and her on her knees. I'd 100% see her again but first would likely work through the others at Prestige that are more of the GFE experience, which to be fair her ad did not say she was.

PRICE: $650 EU for 2 hrs ($300 EU / hour plus $50 CIM add-on).

RATING: 9 of 10.
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[QUOTE=HotDog666;2999455]We get the fact that you're loaded but you do not need to give these levels off ridiculous tips and spoil the market. This isn't America. Thank God.[/QUOTE]Just curious: what's wrong with tipping a gorgeous and sexy masseuse whose service I was satisfied with?

Tipping a massage parlor (to house) seems silly to me too. None of the salons / parlors deserve any kind of tip at all by my opinion.

They pay girls less than half of what they get from their clients, I'm sure.

But to masseuse directly (as well as to freelancer) extra 50-200 zl (depending on actual agreed cost of session), why not?

Of course only and ONLY if I am satisified with the service agreed before and girl performed it. If service not provided as agreed and / or girl is not same good as promoted than, of course, nada.

P.S. I am not american.

[QUOTE=Jtcoppard;2980811]I was on a very brief trip to Warsaw recently, and was arriving downtown quite late. I searched Odloty ads for various English words and only found around 15 that were not all in Polish. I picked the top 8 or so and attempted to contact via WhatsApp. Two answered quickly saying they did not work late. Only one other answered, but in Polish. Weronika.

[URL]https://sexodloty.pl/de/warszawa/girls/girl-profile/weronika-6228.html[/URL]

I used Google translate and asked a few questions. She would not send a photo, claiming the posted shots are real. But she agreed to all my requests and confirmed her rate of 300 PLN + 100 PLN for taxi. Around 95 Euro for the hour. So I took a chance.

She texted again an hour before, asking me to pick up some Vodka. Not a great sign, but since I could grab a 200 ML bottle of decent quality at the corner store for cheap. Why not.

We met at the hotel elevators and she was nicely dressed and friendly. She is around 40 years old, but her body is still quite good. Not a twenty year old hardbody, but attractive. She has great eyes and a nice smile, and I immediately had the feeling I was with the girl (or MILF) next door. The photos are not real, or she is 10 years older. She would have been super hot in her 20's, and she still looks good.

We talked a bit and she drank quite a bit of the vodka, which gave me the sense this is a part time gig for her. But she seemed quite into our session, joking around, very playful, and very interactive. We showered together and had some fun, and then headed to the bed. She gave me a long and decent BBJ. Then DATY which she enjoyed, followed by sex in three positions. We finished standing in front of the full length mirror, and there was lots of eye contact. Overall a pleasant surprise and quite good value. If you want a young supermodel look elsewhere, but if you want a nice lady who provides a sexy session, I recommend her. I did reach out to a couple of girls on English sites, and they were asking 200-300 Euros! They may have been younger and hotter, but I think I made the right choice.[/QUOTE]Hi Jtcoppard, the link doesn't seem to be active anymore. Do you have any other contact info for this girl?

Perhaps a handler / agency, or maybe a different add?

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2999455]We get the fact that you're loaded but you do not need to give these levels off ridiculous tips and spoil the market. This isn't America. Thank God.[/QUOTE]I'll take the AlexSunt s side and say that I don't understand the strange attitude towards tips either. If you don't like tips as an idea. That's one thing (maybe you don't like tipping waiters either, for example), but if you think that the idea of ​8203;tipping masseuses is somehow "spoiled market" - then that surprises me greatly. I read on galsonera that some people think that "rich stupid foreigners overpay working girls", but where did you even get these "rich stupid foreigners"? There are some basic things (like inflation), there is an additional desire to thank a specific person and that's it. If a person doesn't like the service offered. He just turns around and leaves. If he likes it. He pays. No unknown rich people are breaking the market for you.

Well, so as not to get up twice, let me write you my top 3 masseuses in Warsaw that I've been to. There is no first, second and third place, this is not a competition, they are all different.

Polina ([URL]https://www.escort.club/personal-ads/167944.html[/URL]). The girl I wrote about a couple of posts ago, good massage, good attitude, good girl.

Lana from Aura Massage ([URL]https://auramassage.pl[/URL]). Not the most beautiful masseuse I've ever seen, but with a very good physique and training, how she just didn't twist on me, in every sense, the orgasm was so intense that I shot to the ceiling (not literally), and the non-erotic part of the massage was wonderful.

Martha fron Euphoria Massage ([URL]http://euphoria-massage.pl[/URL] and her personnal ad [URL]https://www.escort.club/personal-ads/167439.html[/URL]). Here I fell victim to my own bias, because in my opinion this girl is very beautiful and looks better and more interesting in real life than in the photo. The erotic part was very interesting with moans, breathing in the ears. The rest of the massage is so-so, but considering the above I liked it. And I like it when the face is not blurred in the advertisement.

Oh, and bonus points go to Amelia from Sky Massage ([URL]https://masaz-sky.pl/?page_id=86[/URL] they always have problems with the site LOL so it's better to go straight to Instagram or WhatsApp) - she allows a lot and does a lot (if you negotiate correctly). She also does outcalls. I don't really like the salon itself, but she pulls it out (and, perhaps, the twins, whom I won't write about this time).

As a final thought. Massage parlors in Warsaw are inferior to massage parlors in Prague in terms of quantity and quality of services, but both are ahead of Berlin and Budapest, for example. I have been to all these cities recently and was able to compare. So as a "rich foreigner" I will be flying to Warsaw (and Prague) more often for massages (in reality, I am an "average foreigner".

[QUOTE=AlexSunt;2999601]Just curious: what's wrong with tipping a gorgeous and sexy masseuse whose service I was satisfied with?

Tipping a massage parlor (to house) seems silly to me too. None of the salons / parlors deserve any kind of tip at all by my opinion.

They pay girls less than half of what they get from their clients, I'm sure.

But to masseuse directly (as well as to freelancer) extra 50-200 zl (depending on actual agreed cost of session), why not?

Of course only and ONLY if I am satisified with the service agreed before and girl performed it. If service not provided as agreed and / or girl is not same good as promoted than, of course, nada..[/QUOTE]Well, sure people can do what they want regarding tips, and I'm free to make my views on this too- and I would hope that these would be taken in a constructive manner in which they are delivered.

Yes, there's nothing wrong with tips per se for the purposes of incentivizing a superior service or as a means of a rewards for someone much poorer than you- none of which seem to apply in these circumstances. When you start delivering tips in a market unaccustomed to these, you do start to spoil the market.

Secondly, it's about the level of it- fine 10% or so is understandable but 66% That's what this guy gave to this Milena per his report. Eur 60 base plus 40 tips (50% to her and 50% to the house) Who the fuck thinks this is normal and acceptable? I am sorry but I don't.

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[QUOTE=HotDog666;2999672]Well, sure people can do what they want regarding tips, and I'm free to make my views on this too- and I would hope that these would be taken in a constructive manner in which they are delivered.

Yes, there's nothing wrong with tips per se for the purposes of incentivizing a superior service or as a means of a rewards for someone much poorer than you- none of which seem to apply in these circumstances. When you start delivering tips in a market unaccustomed to these, you do start to spoil the market.

Secondly, it's about the level of it- fine 10% or so is understandable but 66% That's what this guy gave to this Milena per his report. Eur 60 base plus 40 tips (50% to her and 50% to the house) Who the fuck thinks this is normal and acceptable? I am sorry but I don't.[/QUOTE]Yeah to each their own. I didn't tip the escorts or the girl from Touch Magic. Like Alex said, I figure the masseuse is only getting half of what I pay the house, if that. If service went above and beyond, the extra $20 EU / US isn't outrageous. Yeah I probably did tip Milena a bit much, but I was a bit delirious after my session with her. And honestly, the rates in Poland were so cheap compared to most other places I've been around the world, but particularly here in the US where you're going to pay the house $70 US or so and then the girls generally want another $70 for a he, $150 for OWO, $200 for FS, and depending on the city or place, that number can sometimes be much more.

As for tipping the house -- I did it the first night assuming it was split amongst who was working. The women at the front desk, aside from being dead sexy themselves, were very nice and helpful both at the location but also in advance via Telegram where they walked me through options of who was available with a bunch of pictures and such. Tantric was also pretty high class compared to Touch and the dark hallways I had to navigate down. This was more like going to a 5-star spa than a seedy massage parlor where the windows are blacked out and you need to use Google Translate to figure out what the other person is saying.