Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2761185]Dude with 2000+ posts one would think you're posting truthful info but you're not. If you hate SA / Seeking and not using it as you sound, why make a comment on something you don't know? Geesh why assuming and be dead wrong and be laughed at by the guys who use it?

No, men aren't bidding for pussy nor have we a price war in seeking lmao. Dude, majority of girls on seeking are non pros or semi pros.

The pros are the ONLY ones who want the price upfront before the meet. I'm in Bogota now and only 1 out of 10 appointments discussed price upfront cause she insisted.

.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2761366]Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?[/QUOTE]Take his post, and every other post praising something to the moon, with a grain of salt. Posts that condemn everything are also to be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.

Everyone has things they are passionate about. They tend to overlook the flaws and exaggerate the strengths. Their situation may also be much different from your situation. Those who regularly use SA (or Seeking) have often mentioned a long weeding out process, along with wasted meetings when expectations don't align.

As with every other online fishing hole, you will also find sharks in those waters. While it may be perfect for you, it might also be a waste of time. Don't dive in headfirst just because someone says it's fine. And definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2761332]It is not at all like that. Do a search on this forum for mansion and you will find lots of information.[/QUOTE]I believe he's talking about Loutron. I'm not really sure about 10's and 20's girls. I'm hoping he's not talking about ages.

This is one of the best picadas I have in Medellin. It only comes out during weekend frequently with long line so now I always look forward to Saturday morning. Old John in Sabaneta also has good picada and it was just meat and sousage. If you want good authentic Colombia food, you can find it there.

I passed by El Centro and grabbed the new Negra to have this for breakfast since I mentioned I would buy her breakfast the other day and this fulfills that promise. I also don't have any intention to session with her again, just to be clear about my motive. She told me sorry I don't like it once she saw the food. Haha, that is understandable. I did show her a picture before taking her.

I drink the local energy drink Vive. There are these wholesale guys kind of kill the small guys IMO. I discovered it by accident in the rain that 6 bottles was 10 mil, instead of 15 mil you get in the supermarket like Exito. The unit price is about the same whether you buy one or 6 based on my experience.

I agree that kissing and French kissing is reserved for more meaningful relationships. In fact, it's one of the rating categories we use on the Colombian version of this website that I follow. I've learned it is also a thing among Colombian men. A small percentage of the members there say they don't kiss. Most rate the girls according to whether they kiss and if they kiss deeply or just give pecks. Blowjobs on the other hand are as much the coin of the realm as vaginal and anal sex. There is a bit of back and forth about BBBJ vs covered but I think a session with a girl who withholds oral sex is generally considered a ripoff. Am I wrong?

[QUOTE=ContinentalF;2761205]Medellin girls view blowjobs and kissing as something very intimate. Having sex. No problem, there is no personal connection associated with it. Kissing or blowjobs. Usually reserved for those they care about or are interested in. Not saying it doesn't exist in other forms, but it's the nature of the culture here.[/QUOTE]

The Secret Service incident is a very good cautionary tale. The advantages of settling negotiations before the fact far outweigh the disadvantages (e. G. It takes the romance out of it or it kills the mood). In the end these are business transactions.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2761326]Meeting girls over 10's, all night bareback without discussion of price and thinking that they'll just take what you offer sounds great. Sign me up but for the average monger, it is a riskier approach. It is possible that your expectations on reasonable compensation and her expectations about proper conversation may not align. In that situation, it could turn ugly. Services have been rendered and now you are negotiating price after the fact. I'm not saying that you can't do this but I'm suggesting that it is a riskier approach.

It did make me go back and read the article about the secret service controversy. It happened in Cartagena and a secret service agent met a young attractive girl and they spent the night together and have fun. He was 40 and fit and thought that It was just a normal pickup and one night stand. She expected $800 US.

She told the authorities that she had told the guy this beforehand but I doubt it. In the morning she told him that he had to pay her and his response was I'm not paying you money ***** or something like that. He tossed her out the room and she was very upset. The article said he gave her $30 before he threw out of the room. She banged on the door where her friend was with another secret service agent. That agent collected money from the other agents and they gave her $250 US and she was fine with that and left.

But there was a lot of commotion and yelling and the police were called. Please told the secret service guys that they should pay the girl and that is why they collected the money.

Afterwards, the hotel informed the secret service agency about the incident and then the whole thing blew up.

So I'm not saying that this will happen to you but if you have an agreement as to price prior to the meeting it will not happen.

I have met a lot of girls on Facebook and we've chatted for quite some time and a number of them have not mentioned any money expected. But I am the one who brings it up and none have been offended. They have responded with a number or they have said what will you give me my love. And then the negotiation starts. Most except my initial offer but some do not and feel that it is too low or they laugh at it.

I just think it is good for the two parties to have an agreement prior to meeting so that there's no disagreement on money after the fact.

On my first trip, I had that exact same problem. I met a girl that we have been chatting for a while and she seemed very excited to meet me. We never discuss price. We spent some time together, had a good time, and at the end, She said we have to square the money my love. I gave her what I thought was reasonable and she said you have to give me more. So I gave her a little bit more and she said you have to give me more my love. At that point the mood soured and I asked her to leave the room. She's very quiet, and not happy but she did not raise a fuss. She quietly got her things and left but it was not a pleasant experience.

That was my first girl on my first trip in Medellin.

So I'm not telling anybody what they should do. I'm just giving my opinion and you can do what you want.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2761397]I agree that kissing and French kissing is reserved for more meaningful relationships. In fact, it's one of the rating categories we use on the Colombian version of this website that I follow. I've learned it is also a thing among Colombian men. A small percentage of the members there say they don't kiss. Most rate the girls according to whether they kiss and if they kiss deeply or just give pecks. Blowjobs on the other hand are as much the coin of the realm as vaginal and anal sex. There is a bit of back and forth about BBBJ vs covered but I think a session with a girl who withholds oral sex is generally considered a ripoff. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]I think that blowjobs need to be part of the deal. I have not yet met someone from Facebook who did not give a blowjob. My complaint is that the blowjob is relatively short, less than 5 minutes. In my visits to Guadalajara and my reports there, The escorts were giving very long blowjobs if requested and most permitted CIM. Blowjobs were very impressive. So far that has not been the case here but it is more because the blowjobs are short and meant as a prelude to the main event. But the girls in Medellin do good a decent short blowjob and then usually have sex for a long time or as long as you would like.

Like. No complaints about the sex in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2761366]Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?[/QUOTE]You want to know something funny! After I discovered SA and being in this hobby, at first I hesitated sharing intel w a bunch of horny and thirsty dudes on sites like this one so they don't go ruin it, but then I realize few others were on it and discussed it, yet sooooo many don't believe the reports and stay away from it. Meaning it's not for everyone, which is good.

Part of it is because it's not cheap, and also most guys prefer point and click environment and are lazy to actually take a girl on a date, or have small talk, etc. So now I don't mind sharing bc I know the losers will stay away. But if you're the guy who want to travel and want to diversity your time between casas / hardcore putas, and also go on actual dates with beautiful ladies, then it's for you.

So to answer your question, yes some will flake obviously but it's rare tbh. Remember majority of these ladies aren't considered "putas" or "working girls". Clearly lots of hardcore pros are on there, some not even pretending. Prob lke 10-20%. So most are normal chicas, low mileage LOL. For the guys who think it's dangerous to not set a price upfront, this I agree when it comes to most actual putas and pros, and the problem ones won't meet you anyway without a price.

There are clearly two different types of mongers, no offense of course: The 1st type failed in women, barely had any real dates or romance in his life, never married likely, so the concept of dating and being romantic is super foreign to him and mongering is by no choice. So this ain't for you. The 2nd type is the guy with a higher sex drive, marriage or real GF isn't enough, or got divorced, tired of entitled and feminazis / us cultured women, and now just want to be free, mongering by choice and for fun. This then maybe for you LOL.

Referring to another comment I read. I'm not sure why the idea of taking a woman on a date or just to grab lunch or drink without talking about price is dangerous lmao. We're talking about a normal girl w a job, a student, where many never fucked for money before. Also w exchange of messages how tf will she accuse of owing her anything? Remember the site is a dating site, not a puta site like mileroticos.

What I tell them is simple, let's meet for a drink, get to know each other a bit and see if we have chemistry, then we can discuss an arrangement that works for both of us. I do the same shit in the US on the site, most use it the same way. Even some hardcore pros agrees w this and I'm usually more impressed when a hardcore pro waste 3-4 hrs w me in a bar LOL, then go bang her for 300 k, and the 3-4 hrs is free time LOL. It's not so complicated. If you can do it w pros, you can do it w normal chics.

I would say to activate the paid membership 1-2 weeks before you land, it does require a few days of convo to find out which one you vibe with. Exchange whatsapp and only discuss pricing after you're in COL. Remember the site is US regulated and any biz discussion and pricing will be deemed illegal. Some profiles are fake, so due diligence like everything else, don't send money even if in Colombia, you could be sending to a john w a dick longer than yours. Other than that have fun!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2761385]Take his post, and every other post praising something to the moon, with a grain of salt. Posts that condemn everything are also to be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.

Everyone has things they are passionate about. They tend to overlook the flaws and exaggerate the strengths. Their situation may also be much different from your situation. Those who regularly use SA (or Seeking) have often mentioned a long weeding out process, along with wasted meetings when expectations don't align.

As with every other online fishing hole, you will also find sharks in those waters. While it may be perfect for you, it might also be a waste of time. Don't dive in headfirst just because someone says it's fine. And definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. Relatively speaking its not much for a month. I will be in MDE 3. 5 weeks, so clock is ticking.

Anthony Bourdain would be proud.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2761393]This is one of the best picadas I have in Medellin. It only comes out during weekend frequently with long line so now I always look forward to Saturday morning. Old John in Sabaneta also has good picada and it was just meat and sousage. If you want good authentic Colombia food, you can find it there.

I passed by El Centro and grabbed the new Negra to have this for breakfast since I mentioned I would buy her breakfast the other day and this fulfills that promise. I also don't have any intention to session with her again, just to be clear about my motive. She told me sorry I don't like it once she saw the food. Haha, that is understandable. I did show her a picture before taking her.

I drink the local energy drink Vive. There are these wholesale guys kind of kill the small guys IMO. I discovered it by accident in the rain that 6 bottles was 10 mil, instead of 15 mil you get in the supermarket like Exito. The unit price is about the same whether you buy one or 6 based on my experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2761458]Thanks for the advice. Relatively speaking its not much for a month. I will be in MDE 3. 5 weeks, so clock is ticking.[/QUOTE]That was very good advice by Jjbee62. I am not saying the original poster is lying, but your experience with Seeking is likely not to be as successful. I was on Seeking a couple of times not long ago and I am not going back. I found that even the average looking women are looking for higher payment, as they have all gravitated there because guys pay much more than on other sites. Had a talk with some of them, and they know this is where the rich older guys are. And, as has been said before on this site, paying more is absolutely no guarantee of better service, just more entitlement. Girls that wish to work in this field typically start on Facebook, then go to Cupid and finally, if they have enough interest from guys, go to Seeking and stay there. Guys are constantly flying them to Cancun for vacations and sending them money via Wester (what they call WU). Hence, if you don't come off as a wealthy guy when you chat, and on your profile, willing to spend, you are not likely to get a lot of interest from the girls there.

I found Seeking and Facebook to be similar in the number flakes after connecting, as well as the time investment (significant for both), only more expensive and poorer service with Seeking. Up to you, 520 K pesos can get you laid at least twice, the price of a monthly subscription on Seeking. Also, whatever you do, don't fly anyone you haven't spent time with to be with you. I have, and it was a mistake on each occasion. Spending 24 hours with someone is difficult, strong chemistry is needed, even in this hobby. Not to mention they may not even show up and you already spent on the airline ticket.

I 100% agree that chatting, video calls, and going on a date to talk before having sex are safer ways of doing things especially if money is not discussed upfront. I have a friend who does this with nonpros he meets on Tinder (if there is a way to do Tinder that is the way). I don't use Seeking but it's the approach I'm increasingly taking with nonpros I meet on Facebook. It also gives you a chance to break things off in a nice way if they are annoying, acting oddly or if they are uglier than in the photos. I prefer to avoid sex with women I'm not attracted to whether I'm paying or its free. I also like to talk with and learn from lots of different people and a meal is cheap in Medellin so I never feel like these encounters are a waste of time. Of course, I'd pick the venue to have the date at and pick a place I felt safe in like a mall or a restaurant I've been to before.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2761420] I'm not sure why the idea of taking a woman on a date or just to grab lunch or drink without talking about price is dangerous lmao. We're talking about a normal girl w a job, a student, where many never fucked for money before. Also w exchange of messages how tf will she accuse of owing her anything? Remember the site is a dating site, not a puta site like mileroticos.

What I tell them is simple, let's meet for a drink, get to know each other a bit and see if we have chemistry, then we can discuss an arrangement that works for both of us. I do the same shit in the US on the site, most use it the same way. Even some hardcore pros agrees w this and I'm usually more impressed when a hardcore pro waste 3-4 hrs w me in a bar LOL, then go bang her for 300 k, and the 3-4 hrs is free time LOL. It's not so complicated. If you can do it w pros, you can do it w normal chics.
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[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2761366]Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?[/QUOTE]Yes you can filter by city and country.

Plenty of catfish and scammers but many diamonds but needs some work and patience.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2761420]You want to know something funny! After I discovered SA and being in this hobby, at first I hesitated sharing intel w a bunch of horny and thirsty dudes on sites like this one so they don't go ruin it, but then I realize few others were on it and discussed it, yet sooooo many don't believe the reports and stay away from it. Meaning it's not for everyone, which is good.

Part of it is because it's not cheap, and also most guys prefer point and click environment and are lazy to actually take a girl on a date, or have small talk, etc. So now I don't mind sharing bc I know the losers will stay away. But if you're the guy who want to travel and want to diversity your time between casas / hardcore putas, and also go on actual dates with beautiful ladies, then it's for you.

So to answer your question, yes some will flake obviously but it's rare tbh. Remember majority of these ladies aren't considered "putas" or "working girls". Clearly lots of hardcore pros are on there, some not even pretending. Prob lke 10-20%. So most are normal chicas, low mileage LOL. For the guys who think it's dangerous to not set a price upfront, this I agree when it comes to most actual putas and pros, and the problem ones won't meet you anyway without a price.

There are clearly two different types of mongers, no offense of course: The 1st type failed in women, barely had any real dates or romance in his life, never married likely, so the concept of dating and being romantic is super foreign to him and mongering is by no choice. So this ain't for you. The 2nd type is the guy with a higher sex drive, marriage or real GF isn't enough, or got divorced, tired of entitled and feminazis / us cultured women, and now just want to be free, mongering by choice and for fun. This then maybe for you LOL.

Referring to another comment I read. I'm not sure why the idea of taking a woman on a date or just to grab lunch or drink without talking about price is dangerous lmao. We're talking about a normal girl w a job, a student, where many never fucked for money before. Also w exchange of messages how tf will she accuse of owing her anything? Remember the site is a dating site, not a puta site like mileroticos.

What I tell them is simple, let's meet for a drink, get to know each other a bit and see if we have chemistry, then we can discuss an arrangement that works for both of us. I do the same shit in the US on the site, most use it the same way. Even some hardcore pros agrees w this and I'm usually more impressed when a hardcore pro waste 3-4 hrs w me in a bar LOL, then go bang her for 300 k, and the 3-4 hrs is free time LOL. It's not so complicated. If you can do it w pros, you can do it w normal chics.

I would say to activate the paid membership 1-2 weeks before you land, it does require a few days of convo to find out which one you vibe with. Exchange whatsapp and only discuss pricing after you're in COL. Remember the site is US regulated and any biz discussion and pricing will be deemed illegal. Some profiles are fake, so due diligence like everything else, don't send money even if in Colombia, you could be sending to a john w a dick longer than yours. Other than that have fun![/QUOTE]I don't know Madtraveller from Adam but he got this right. If you want a real GFE. And I mean more than DFK and BBBJ — the real GFE, then Seeking rules. I did not use it in Medellin because I explored the face books scene. But I've seen (fucked) over forty girls on Seeking in US, London, Spain, and Buenos Aires (great SA girls there by the way). And now I have a girl I can see with guaranteed chemistry and likely bareback in 5 or so cities around the world. And my home girl that I found on SA has moved to full mistress status (pay her rent but everything else is just BFGF). High recommend.

See the dedicated thread under General / Dating Agencies / Seeking.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2761472][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements[/URL]

Most guys here have the curiosity but self identify as "Mongers" think of this as a "hobby" and are too cheap to have any meaningful relationships. STILL there are some that use it, try it and it can be life changing. Treat them with resect, do not expect them to want to hear about $ till they know who you are. Do not let them contact you. You contact them.[/QUOTE]This is not only about being cheap. It is their "pussy is pussy" mentality. They have no clue what real GFE is, and don't even want to try, because they are too lazy, insecure, etc. Most of the reports that I see here are so boring and bland. Went to casa X, paid X mil cop, shot 1 load, got out. Meh. Read Steve's reports in the Seeking thread just to compare, and see for yourself what a real girlfriend experience is.