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[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2761491]...They have no clue what real GFE is, and don't even want to try, because they are too lazy, insecure, etc.
...[/QUOTE]I can assure you that I know what GFE is, and I have experienced real GFE many times in my life.
However, at this stage in my life, I am not interested in a GFE relationship. I just want to bust a nut and have some fun. It is not that complicated.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2761677]I think Anthony Bourdain may have been a monger actually and just didn't mention it in his show for obvious reasons. I always thought it was strange that he did the episode on Kentucky Fried Buches in zona norte in Tijuana, I mean you literally have to walk right past the SWers to get to the place.[/QUOTE]Don't forget the show in Bangkok where he ended up drunk and kissing a ladyboy.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2761697]I couldn't have said it better. I tried hard but this is the post to read if what I wrote on the subject is confusing in any way.[/QUOTE]I feel like a Bartles and James ad. Thank you for your support.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2761802]Actually the site dropped the Arrangement part and is now only known as Seeking. I think that means you do not have to pay the chicks anymore.[/QUOTE]I thought it meant the girls are no longer just looking for guys to buy them flowers.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2761696]I'm not convinced he wasn't. There was chatter his Asia Argento thing was complicated by third parties.[/QUOTE]I was thinking about that story.
[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2761838]Just say you never had free sex, its easier to say that.[/QUOTE]I've had quite a bit of paid sex, where I was the one being paid. Only once was I paid with cash. Many years ago a local coke dealer gave me coke to get me to fuck her. Didn't much care for her, but $200 worth of coke, plus what we went through made it worth it to spend the night with her.
There were also a lot of women who would pick me up, take me home, feed me and fuck me, from overnight up to 3 days. Never spent a penny. But that's a younger man's game.
However, looking at it 1 way everyone always pays for sex. Time is valuable and you're spending it on pussy. The question is, are you getting your money's worth?
[QUOTE=QueRico;2761541]I agree but there's more to it, I'm not knocking anybody but there's a lot of people on here that don't see a value in mutual attraction for example if I go on dates in the states with a girl and I'm attracted to her and she's attracted to me when that moment comes she grabs my arm and pulls me in the bedroom she's hot for me and she wants to fuck and she's doing it to please herself you will never get that from a prostitute you will get a fake performance for me I can feel the energy the longer I'm in this game the less I want high mileage papa goes you know the ones that you negotiate with them they come in your apartment they don't smile they come in the bedroom they take their clothes off and they put a condom on you and do a fake BJ for three minutes then they climb on top of you and say give me the milk why are you taking so long they don't kiss they don't want you to give them oral and they're not there to have an orgasm some people don't understand this but there is a massive difference I mean a world of difference when a girl is hot for you it doesn't matter what she does or what her performances it's 100 times better than a Stone cold prostitute looking for milk and money.[/QUOTE]Can you tell these are from prostitutes? Just like Seeking, you still need to meet the right girls. Like others have said, treat them normally and make them comfortable around you. There is never a rush to have sex or finish. Sometimes I think it took too long because they are young and want to have fun.
You can see the girl lower her price for me. This girl does not really need money because she has a very wealthy SD so she always dressed very well. I can't write too much because the SD maybe reading. LOL.
There is also no way you can tell these girls are high mileage or not.
There are dramas as well. A girl accused me having another girl because I didn't confirm with her. An hour after appointment, she was mad at me but I was still waiting for her to show. when she thought I had another chick.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2761863]Can you tell these are from prostitutes [/QUOTE]I can definitely tell. Normal chicks don't keep saying amor and mi vida and cielo like hookers do.
Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?
[QUOTE=Rgr327;2761731]Yeah. But, no.
The entire stay-behind detail went to Pley Club and they all procured chicas.
Two of these fools inexplicably decided to pay the $60 jailbreak fee on 2 x chicas. They brought them back to the place where they were staying, Hotel Caribe (ONE of those fools either agreed to some retarded USD price thinking it was COP, or agreed to some price with the intention of stiffing the girl. Or the girl said, "This guy is so incredibly dumb, watch me take $800 from him. He's not going to completely burn down the USSS and lose his job- for less money than he made staying behind to close out the visit. I. e. Doing absolutely nothing and getting paid for a few days. That would be retarded."
He called her bluff, and proved that he was not in fact merely dumb, but truly retarded. And the rest is now part of American History.[/QUOTE]The secret service guy never gave an interview so we will never know the truth. We only have the girl's story and interviews with the other people involved. When I read that she said she told him that it was 800 US, that was really high to me so I thought she made that part up and did not tell him But was pulling one of those scams but telling the guy after the fact how much she expected and then there would be some negotiations and she would get something lower but still something like $300 US which is also high.
The article said he said I'm not paying you any money in an angry manner and then he tossed her out of the room. But the article also said he gave her $30 which puzzled me a little bit.
Based on this behavior, My guess was that She didn't tell him that she expected $800 but was trying to pull this stunt in the morning thinking that he would pay her to avoid a loud argument in the morning. Instead what happened that morning was a loud shouting match that led to the police being called which is never a good thing especially if you are working for the secret service on a detail to protect the president.
The fact that he was in his 40's and fit I think is a factor. My guess is that he thought he was picking up a girl and they were having fun like a normal date. Anyway I agree that his behavior in the morning to treat her then that manner was a big mistake and I'm not sure what he was thinking especially under those circumstances when he was working. It was interesting that the other secret service guys were trying to calm the situation and trying to resolve the matter by collecting money among the guys and giving her 250 US.
And in the end she was content with 250 and left but only after to please arrived.
The whole point of me retelling that story was that it was a cautionary tale that you should have an understanding with a girl as to whether she expects to get paid and if so, how much. At least for me, I don't want a situation where after the deed is done, and I give the girl what I think is reasonable, the girl tells me that I need to give her more money and we have an impasse and at the very least an awkward situation that needs to be resolved. But like I said when the services have already been rendered and now you are negotiating price, that puts you in an awkward situation.
I'm going to give you analogy that is not very good at all. You go into a restaurant you order a dish that you like and some wine without asking to see the menu. In your mind, they should cost a certain amount and the restaurant should be happy to receive that amount. So after you finish eating the meal, you leave that amount on the table. The waiter says to you Sir it is much more than that and you have to pay. You say I'm not going to pay anymore, but I've given you is reasonable and that is what I usually pay for a meal like that and you should accept it. Well, you have an impasse.
I know that some guys will say well I always do it like that and there's never any problem. That may be true but there may be a problem in the future. But I am not one to tell people what to do, I'm just saying what I have been doing after my first trip when I had a disagreement with a girl over money when we never discussed money and I thought we were just going out on a date. But that was my first trip to Medellin and I still had a lot to learn.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2761913]Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?[/QUOTE]Another question asked and answered 1000 times that could easily be figured out with a basic reading through the various Colombia and Medellin forums.
Stay at the Mansion. If you can't figure out what that means after reading through various discussion topics here. Traveling to Medellin is probably not a good idea for you.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2761868]I can definitely tell. Normal chicks don't keep saying amor and mi vida and cielo like hookers do.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Now I remember this has been talked about. I tried to make my question less confrontational so I deleted some words. My original post was "Can you tell these are [b]stone cold[/b] prostitutes?
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2761913]Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?[/QUOTE]Claim a refund on your travel insurance.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2761868]I can definitely tell. Normal chicks don't keep saying amor and mi vida and cielo like hookers do.[/QUOTE]Haha. While that's true for the majority, I don't think its bulletproof. Just as in english, some groups call everyone "love", so they do in spanish. So I don't think its so true of amor.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2761732]And just think if she was your GF and loved you it would be 1000 times better.
Stone cold prostitute? That is at such a level of BS that you should be banned for saying such stupidity here. You are talking about the women I love.[/QUOTE]Hehe, but is t that why you love them?