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[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2955651]Is this the 'school girl' that everyone always mentions? This isn't at the bts station tho so maybe not?[/QUOTE]God ole Sally.
Tidbit. She was evicted from that spot. As of last week she stood on the road next to a food cart a few feet away.
Went to Crazy House last night. Arriving early, there were just a few ladies on stage, but after an hour, both the stage and seating were crowded.
I noticed that Koreans were coming in larger numbers as it got later. Most just sat there, not interacting with the ladies.
I was with a Pattaya bar girl, and I told her to pick a dancer to buy a drink. The choice was a flat chested girl from Udon Thani. After some drinking the dancer said she would go to my hotel for just the barfine, since she wanted to fuck and go home. But I passed on the free fuck, since I already had a lady.
It was a good decision, she was horny as hell after Crazy House.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2955651]Is this the 'school girl' that everyone always mentions? This isn't at the bts station tho so maybe not?[/QUOTE]That is her. Watch her eyes.
[QUOTE=LuvChicas;2955510]I remember girls smoking cigarettes with their pussies: inhaling and exhaling smoke.[/QUOTE]It'the avoid lung cancer, maybe.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2955614]Look, I've got nothing against those who want to bang (or be banged by) ladyboys when in Bangkok. It's just not something I would ever voluntarily do. At Nana Plaza, there are several obvious ladyboy bars as well as bars with signs that say 100% real ladies. I also realize that some bars have both. Most ladyboys are pretty obvious. But I do worry about unwittingly getting a post-op ladyboy. As I understand it, some of them will identify as real ladies and no longer as ladyboys. Are these fairly common in the mostly girl bars?[/QUOTE]You have a direct decision to make and only you can make it. Either go out and have some fun, or stay paranoid and grow old being sad and lonely with regrets!
The only pickup bar that I know makes a very determined effort to keep it ladyboy free is Thermae (but they do all hang around outside heehee).
Anyhow, your gut will be right most of the time, for the rest just ask them out straight or ask to see their ID (ask about age), it will show their original gender.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2955614]Look, I've got nothing against those who want to bang (or be banged by) ladyboys when in Bangkok. It's just not something I would ever voluntarily do. At Nana Plaza, there are several obvious ladyboy bars as well as bars with signs that say 100% real ladies. I also realize that some bars have both. Most ladyboys are pretty obvious. But I do worry about unwittingly getting a post-op ladyboy. As I understand it, some of them will identify as real ladies and no longer as ladyboys. Are these fairly common in the mostly girl bars?[/QUOTE]Dude there are so many fabulous Post Ops in Nana, I would say probably 90% of the "girls" down there have had surgery. You just have to get your face down there and taste to tell for sure.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2955651]Is this the 'school girl' that everyone always mentions? This isn't at the bts station tho so maybe not?[/QUOTE]Yes that's her but I think they refer to her as the one in a school girl outfit. She's obviously not a school girl.
Had a few days of fun recently, and would like to share a few noteworthy incidents.
1. Seoul barber club: Do yourself a favour and go to this or a similar barber at least once (after some 420 if you're into that). It is nothing sexual, but you end up walking out feeling like a king for like 30-40 $.
2. Wonder massage: Since my last visit 3 months ago, place has gone downhill. Girl was sulky and not willing to please. She did all the steps like shower, massage etc. In the right order but her heart wasn't in it. Ended up unsatisfied. (not sure if it's with all girls or just the one I got. My regular from before has stopped working there).
3. H*ing h* outcall: set it up on line (quite straightforward) 2 hours. Ignored the photos because product rarely matches the ad in these services anyway. Discussed requirements with the admin, and masseuse arrived 1 hour later. Matched what I requested fairly closely physically (skinny, short, mature). After a 15 minute excuse of a massage, started talking. Made a deal and proceeded. She spent about 15 minutes in the shower first, but after that, became a trooper. Multiple positions all over the room, petite enough to carry. Shockingly, no baby damage. Good body shape to look at in doggy. Did not ask and was not offered BB anything. Rimming was voluntary. CIM + Spit was voluntary. Took a skull f* like a champ.
WIR: Yes, for convenience.
Damages: 1300 fees + 2 k agreed + 0. 5 k (voluntary tip).
Will add the rest in next post.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;2955664]God ole Sally.
Tidbit. She was evicted from that spot. As of last week she stood on the road next to a food cart a few feet away.[/QUOTE]I noticed that. She was wearing white the night I saw her by the food cart. Those eyes are so scary.
Patpong gogo: (the straight gogo near the gay gogo) Met an old party buddy for lunch and a drink and things snowballed from there as expected. Ended up at this gogo at 9:30 with a firm plan in mind. Walked in, bought drinks for ourselves + mamasan + 1 waitress. Had mamasan sit down and shoot the breeze. By the next round, we had conveyed to mamasan that we need two skinny hardcore party girls for takeaway. Got drinks for her shortlist, and finally decided on two. Not stunners, but not bad either, I would say solid 7 or 8's, but definitely looked like they like to party. By 11 4 of us were in my friend's fairly impressive condo with an equally impressive bar + jacuzzi. The girls were impressed. These things are unpredictable. After seeing such an apartment, either the girls will spend the rest of the night trying to extract money from you, or else they focus on enjoying themselves and serving you well. We turned out to be lucky (always keep the cheapest unopened sparkling wine you can buy around that comes with a cork for such situations). Next 4 hours were spent very pleasurably. They danced, drank, ate, went down on each other and put on a half decent lesbian show, and went into the bedroom for 1:1 from time to time (I think 2 M X 2 F X 2 shots each). We were spent and just chilling. Both girls were definitely above average providers, but one was in a league of her own when it came to partying and being a party ****. By 4:00 am the subpar one said she wants to go home. We paid her and sent her away. Now just the 3 of us were left. She turned out to be a thoroughbred and a trooper. We were thinking of calling a replacement for the departed, but within 30 minutes, this girl had us convinced we didn't need one. She ended up taking a proper spit roast for the next 4 hours. And she likes to party HARD. Same level as us back in the day. Basically didn't refuse anything (we always asked before doing something new). Took her line, but I am going to need a month to recover from this before calling her again. Haven't texted / heard from my friend since. I think that friendship is either dead now, or become a spit roast only kinda friendship, which is pretty cool TBH.
Damages: (total for 2 men): 10.5 K (definitely over spent 3-4 K, I think could have saved that and had same experience, but I like to reward good work, especially by women who don't mention baht every 10 minutes) 4 k at gogo (drinks + BF + 2-300 tip) + girl1 2 k (agreed) + 0. 5 k (tip, she did not ask) + girl2 2 k (agreed) + 2 k (tip, she did not demand, just said "tip me" in passing while she had 2 the*s inside her simultaneously. She was very happy) + party materials. IMO we got off very cheap, mainly because both girls fucked both guys (which they explicitly mentioned they won't while we were finalizing the deal at the gogo).
WIR: More about if the situation arises again. But yes, this kind of a night every few months or so is definitely a good idea.
Old contact / existing arrangement:
1. I had made a weird request on here earlier, which I now realize wasn't in line with this forum's etiquette, so apologies.
2. One member did reach out to me in private, and I did not reply, so apologies to them. Unfortunately, I could not make the time.
Having had my more depraved needs satisfied in the gogo girl session (and gaining some inspiration), I wanted to hit up my ongoing regular arrangement, because, why not. I have been teaching her to be more and more submissive over the past year or so, but she is a slow learner, and I am not able to dedicate enough time for classes. I do have a bunch of toys though, and she let's me use all of them on her, and is ok for A+. Anyway, agreed time and place with her. She's not open to MMF / MTF and couldn't be convinced. But she's learned a few things well. Great BJ, and can be skull Fed for a long time. Good at rimming. Tight entrances. Eventually convinced her to bring over an F friend. Friend was good at lesbo and both were welcoming for all holes. Took a while, but eventually it became a proper threesome. I used a couple of pills over those 2 days. Overall, satisfactory experience, but could be much better if they had more training. They are definitely eager to learn and please.
Looks. Girl1 - curvy MILF, flat undamaged tummy, white skin 35 yo; girl 2 -45 yo uggo (not fat) with some sparks of past beauty.
Damages -Total about 10 K for 48 hrs= Room (48 hrs) 2. 2 K + girl1 2. 5 k (48 hours) + 1 k tip (she did not ask) + girl 2 1 k ( 36 hours) + 0. 5 k tip (she did not ask) + food / drinks / smokes 2 k.
Have 2 more left, will add later.
1. The African girls are all over the place, 90% are dirty looking fat assed fuglies, however I saw one or two that looked doable. I talked to one though and she had a bit of an attitude, which is surprising when she is trying to peddle some black pussy is a hottie playground. But no mind, the Arab guys probably like that. My info from a British dude was that in addition to the fat asses, enormous feet, askew wigs, stained clothing and locker room odor, their pussiers are hairier than a gorilla, and no I didn't ask how he knew that.
2. The African guys are all over the place and I personally recall with great pleasure when Big Joke used to round them all up to check their papers. They are soooooo annoying. Go search my posts, I have complained of this before. No dude, you can't help me with anything so don't even talk to me when you see me again. By Monday, they had gotten the message but really, I'm walking down the street hitting my hitter and you think you can do anything for me? And I'm not your brother, you can call me sir. So annoying.
3. Indian dudes. You come here and biatch about the girls don't like you. Step one, the most important step: Bathe. Especially before you get on an Airplane. Or walk around Thermae wafting a cat food plant dumpster aroma behind you.
4. Watch sellers: Getting more and more aggressive, I literally had to tell one to get the fuck away from me in a command voice. The old mai Ow, Khrap, mai ow, Khrap, MAI OW KHRAP, Fuck off you dirty fucking see**t. They tend to understand British fuckoff better than the American fuckoff of scumbag motherfuckr.
Patpong gogo: (the straight gogo near the gay gogo) Met an old party buddy for lunch and a drink and things snowballed from there as expected. Ended up at this gogo at 9:30 with a firm plan in mind. Walked in, bought drinks for ourselves + mamasan + 1 waitress. Had mamasan sit down and shoot the breeze. By the next round, we had conveyed to mamasan that we need two skinny hardcore party girls for takeaway. Got drinks for her shortlist, and finally decided on two. Not stunners, but not bad either, I would say solid 7 or 8's, but definitely looked like they like to party. By 11 4 of us were in my friend's fairly impressive condo with an equally impressive bar + jacuzzi. The girls were impressed. These things are unpredictable. After seeing such an apartment, either the girls will spend the rest of the night trying to extract money from you, or else they focus on enjoying themselves and serving you well. We turned out to be lucky (always keep the cheapest unopened sparkling wine you can buy around that comes with a cork for such situations). Next 4 hours were spent very pleasurably. They danced, drank, ate, went down on each other and put on a half decent lesbian show, and went into the bedroom for 1:1 from time to time (I think 2 M X 2 F X 2 shots each). We were spent and just chilling. Both girls were definitely above average providers, but one was in a league of her own when it came to partying and being a party ****. By 4:00 am the subpar one said she wants to go home. We paid her and sent her away, with no ill feelings. Now just the 3 of us were left. She turned out to be a thoroughbred and a trooper. We were thinking of calling a replacement for the departed, but within 30 minutes, this girl had us convinced we didn't need one. She ended up taking a proper spit roast for the next 4 hours, and taking the lead. And she likes to party HARD. Same level as us back in the day. Basically didn't refuse anything (we always asked before doing something new). Took her line, but I am going to need a month to recover from this before calling her again. Haven't texted / heard from my friend since. I think that friendship is either dead now, or become a spit roast only kinda friendship, which would be pretty cool TBH.
Damages: (total for 2 men): 10.5 K (definitely over spent 3-4 K, I think could have saved that and had same experience, but I like to reward good work, especially by women who don't mention baht every 10 minutes) 4 k at gogo (drinks + BF + 2-300 tip) + girl1 2 k (agreed) + 0. 5 k (tip, she did not ask) + girl2 2 k (agreed) + 2 k (tip, she did not demand, just said "tip me" in passing while she had 2 the*s inside her simultaneously while she was suspended in air. She was very happy) + party materials. IMO we got off very cheap, mainly because both girls fucked both guys (which they explicitly mentioned they won't while we were finalizing the deal at the gogo).
WIR: More about if the situation arises again. But yes, this kind of a night every few months or so is definitely a good idea.
Old contact / existing arrangement:
1. I had made a weird request on here earlier, which I now realize wasn't in line with this forum's etiquette, so apologies.
2. One member did reach out to me in private, and I did not reply, so apologies to them. Unfortunately, I could not make the time.
Having had my more depraved needs satisfied in the gogo girl session (and gaining some inspiration), I wanted to hit up my ongoing regular arrangement, because, why not. I have been teaching her to be more and more submissive over the past year or so, but she is a slow learner, and I am not able to dedicate enough time for classes. I do have a bunch of toys though, and she let's me use all of them on her, and is ok for A+. Anyway, agreed time and place with her. She's not open to MMF / MTF and couldn't be convinced. But she's learned a few things well. Great BJ, and can be skull Fed for a long time. Good at rimming. Tight entrances. Eventually convinced her to bring over an F friend. Friend was good at lesbo and both were welcoming for all holes. Took a while, but eventually it became a proper threesome. I used a couple of pills over those 2 days. Overall, satisfactory experience, but could be much better if they had more training. They are definitely eager to learn and please.
Looks. Girl1 - curvy MILF, flat undamaged tummy, white skin 35 yo; girl 2 -45 yo uggo (not fat) with some sparks of past beauty.
Damages -Total about 10 K for 48 hrs= Room (48 hrs) 2. 2 K + girl1 2. 5 k (48 hours) + 1 k tip (she did not ask) + girl 2 1 k ( 36 hours) + 0. 5 k tip (she did not ask) + food / drinks / smokes 2 k.
Have 2 more left, will add later.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2955674]That is her. Watch her eyes.[/QUOTE]LOL. I remember someone saying she's fugly or something but body looks great. A bit of RBF from what I can see, would need better view of face. Last night here maybe I'll go see her in person hah.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2955614]But I do worry about unwittingly getting a post-op ladyboy. As I understand it, some of them will identify as real ladies and no longer as ladyboys. Are these fairly common in the mostly girl bars?[/QUOTE]Enter only the bars that are known to employ ladys only (Billboard, Geisha, Butterfly, Red Dragon, Spanky for example, I've never seen any LBs in these ones).
In a bar environment it is mostly easy to tell, but in case of doubt I would recommend you skip her and move to another bar.
Fiwfans: Tried 3 incalls. 1 was terrible, 1 was good, 1 was amazing.
1. Independent / no agency: had a 40 min option for 800 baht so got that one. Agreed place and time and arrived. Girl was 3 x the weight her pictures indicated, and quite unpleasant to look at. I have very low standards, but this wasn't going to work even for me. Had a quick BJ, bit rimming and left in 20 minutes.
2. An agency (can share in PM, not sure it is ok to reveal in post) - Shortest option was 70 minutes, but I went with 100 min because it made much more sense. Surprisingly, girl was same as picture, young, cute pretty face and eyes, big boobs. Though she had put on a bit of weight below her waist, but not in a bad way. She spoke English too, and was glad to practice. I extended it to 3 hrs total 15 minutes after arriving and I think it cost 3 K or thereabouts. Drank and chatted for the first hour, then she took the lead. Fairly standard process. Clean up, oral, riding. She was skilled and was acting like she was into it pretty well. BBFSCIP was available for +2 K, I declined. Enjoyed myself. WIR. Yes, not a bad option to have.
3. Same agency, other girl: Will keep it short. Smoked pot and drank 2 beers together. 2 hours =2 K + A level = +1 K. Decent looking (same as photo), excellent job skills and work ethic. Amazing. WIR: Yes, great for a no fuss all access quicky.
Fiwfans reflections: Basically a hit or miss so keep low expectations. But great VFM if you find a gem. Spend a lot of time browsing / translating / reading reviews. I'd rather strike out on one fiwfans, book another right after and go than find a girl at a Suk beer bar these days TBH.
Tded-99: Was curious reading the discussion here (Thanks for FR K'Everything Thai). Went alone (long term expat, but speak very little Thai). As luck would have it, my cheap grab car booking was fulfilled by a big black SUV so I received a VIP welcome right at the entrance (A blazer opened doors, and gave me a 10 min "tour" of the place, his 2 lackeys walking meekly behind us). I had no intention of ST / LT, but within 5 minutes of being here, I understood that revealing this information will lead to a very boring night, so didn't say anything. Got myself a private room (I think 150/ HR), ordered a premium whisky bottle (1300, incl mixers iirc) + some snacks for the table (about 500). Manager asked about girls, I said get drinks first. Had a couple of drinks with manager guy to get more info. Basically ST is the only way for the girls to make any substantial money as room + company / hour is dirt cheap and no lady drinks. I am doubtful about 2 things- 1. Not sure if there are 2 separate classes of private karaoke rooms or not 2. Not sure if stage girls and other girls are strictly segregated and each having different boundaries for what they can offer.
Anyway, eventually called 4 girls in. They were meek and shy at first, but opened up soon enough. I insinuated that I can have only 2ST so whoever proves themselves / seduces me gets to go. That got things going. Nothing special enough to write about. Positive or negative. Just a decent drinking experience with few decent looking WGs. Bit of hand / mouth action, lots of touching / showing etc. The stage girls would walk into the room once every 15-20 minutes offering lap dances for 100 baht. I didn't refuse a single one, mainly to get a closer look at the stage talent. I think I had 10-15. The dance itself is nothing special, but for 100 baht, its a no brainer. Full access and they will motorboat you / dry hump you for 3-5 minutes. Definitely at least 2 were stunners. Like local TV / billboard ad level hot. Others worth mentioning- 2 girls had glasses on, and were doing the whole nerdy girl / librarian vibe (as much as their skimpy bikiny would allow). 1 proper tomboy. 1 Asian babydoll, 1 BBW MILF. I don't care much for looks so I am not going to compare this to other gogo's, but definitely decent looking girls, and definitely younger than other places. In the common / stage area, I think the dancers entertain specific requests for 100 baht, like a specific pose / move you want them to do, lap dance, nude twerking close to your table etc.
Although, this place definitely isn't for everyone, and I fully understand reason for mixed reviews in past discussion. I think being well versed in local Thai bar / nightlife etiquette is a minimum requirement to have a good time here. They are trying to extract as much money as possible from you (as any other gogo) and being able to handle it in a Thai way (save both face + non confrontational + make it more of a joke + be firm and clear) is essential to have a good time.
STs do seem interesting here. The manager mentioned not all girls will go, but most would go, and rate is same for any girl for ST - 2500 all incl. I quite like this. Hate the bargaining with the girl in suk etc. Next time I will try this.
Damages: I spent Total 6 or 7 K: Drinks: 1500, Food: 700, Room: 450 (they discounted voluntarily 150 although I was 25 minutes over), Company: 900 (3 X3 X100), lapdances 1300 (100*13), Tips: 1500 (mainly because girls were visibly pissed / disappointed because I didn't ST so gave 400 each). Other 300 to waiter etc.
WIR: Maybe. My local Thai working class bar is much more fun for much cheaper. (taxi driver would be a high spender kind of bar).