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[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2762427]Yeah I'm not sure if I would recommend taking selfies of these girls. Some of these girls want to be discreet and one should respect their privacy. I wouldn't want some girl I just met to be taking random pictures of me either. Talk about killing the mood. At least wait till she's several drinks in if you are going to try to be slick and do that. [/QUOTE]Huh? How do you think you are going to find the chick in the first place? You are going to see PICS of her online where guys go to look for hookers! Wait until she is several drinks in? What would that do? You realize these chicks are drugging guys as soon as they start drinking. They are not staying 2 hours to get cozy then deciding to drug and rob.
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[QUOTE=Tudman;2762404][URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/yumk3w/do_you_know_this_girl_3000000_cop_reward_she_was/[/URL]
Apparently she is a Chaturbate webcam girl: karol_bell1.
The grilla look is something those who have been in Colombia know real well. If you have never been, look at the girls who dressed and act like shanks in your city, that would be a start.
Look fellas, the peso lost a tonne of value within a year. Yes it's great for guys with USDs but it's a double edged sword for tourists who also want lady company. If the economy tanks in the richer countries, the western union boyfriends and webcam funds will dry up. Expect more brazen acts. This can be a positive for those who take the precautions as women will be more attainable, but they also may be up to no good and work in groups to rob.
I suggest all newbies if your goal is sex and you don't mind paying, go to the places that are licensed to do that stuff. Even if you decide to meet up with her afterwards, at least there is a trail. I am not sure about phone tracking software etc or if AirPods exist in other sizes. But even by then it could be too late.
I also suggest taking a few selfies with your dates. These grillas are always taking photos and do the grilla pose. Something between a lean back, moving their hips in a direction so their waist long hair can shine, shit like that. You guys have all seen certain poses these girls do. Send the photo to a buddy (es) and you're safer. I doubt these girls will refuse a selfie together. No selfie, be weary.[/QUOTE]I have been following the Reddit links about Paul from the night he disappeared on 70 and well before his lifeless body was found hours later. I must say I was super impressed how promptly and efficiently all the reddit sleuths went to work looking for the female person of interest. Thankfully Paul snapped an undercover pic of her when they met at the bar. It didn't take long for a few redditirs to run her image through a facial recognition app using AI technology. The search results yielded valuable information about the chica involved in his disappearance. Let's hope she gets picked up soon. Last time I checked there was a 10 k usd reward for her capture. That should entice one of her "friends" to spill the beans on her whereabouts.
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[QUOTE=ILikeButts;2762426]Sorry that happened to you and glad you ended up okay. 40 hours is a long time to be out so she must have given you a massive dose. This stuff scares me way more than the risk of getting mugged.
I stick to my belief. Agree to a price ahead of time and you lower your risk dramatically. Also, stay off tinder and if you want to vanilla date meet girls IRL, not online. Just my two bits.[/QUOTE]Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.
BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2762432]Do you have a theory about how you were drugged?[/QUOTE]I know how I was drugged, it was a shot of aguadiente. We'd already had some wine and one smaller shot, I was out on the balcony getting steaks off the grill, I come in and she says let's do another shot. She had pre poured, but I had bought the bottle earlier and she took her's first.
As soon as I took mine I knew something was odd. That noted, there was none of the zombiness or going numb for me. My legs gave out and I went straight to the floor. That shit, at least in the quantity I was given, is no joke. E.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;2762452]I know how I was drugged. I was out on the balcony getting steaks off the grill, I come in and she says let's do another shot.
My legs gave out and I went straight to the floor..[/QUOTE]Anyone in your apartment. FB, Seeking, Tinder, whatever. Seems the extra you pay for the convenience and to have a girl come to your place also has added risks. Must be these high end hookers on social media... Its not likely to happen in a 8 k hotel room in Centro. And even if it did, what are they going to steal, a spare condom, an extra sheet of lavatory paper?
Maybe that's good advice in itself. If your worried about this type of activity. Just take a street girl to a local hotel. Saves you money and lower risk.
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If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.
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Vice
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04[/URL]
Very good documentary for people who haven't watched it. Good info on how people use this drug and it's effects and what to look out for.
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This is good advice. Doormen and security cameras are your friends. My only quibble is it's a good practice to keep track of your drink whether or not you have a doorman. When in doubt or with previously unknown parties, don't consume anything.
[QUOTE=Combo;2762454]If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.[/QUOTE]
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OK, so the reason I asked the question was to help other guys avoid a similar fate. One of the ways I've stayed away from this sort of thing is I have a hard non negotiable rule in my apartment. I never allow any girl into my kitchen or near my food or drinks. Anything that is consumed in my place is prepared and served by me only. I don't remember every having to insist. In my experience it is unusual for local girls, especially local girls you don't know well, to volunteer to prepare or serve anything. I always offer whatever they may want and then I serve it to them. I don't even allow girls to wash dishes or bring used plates to the kitchen. They can't slip you anything by cleaning up but I like to keep it simple by maintaining a strict across the board off limits policy. I'm really sorry you had to go through this and I appreciate you sharing to help other guys avoid it.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2762452]I know how I was drugged, it was a shot of aguadiente. We'd already had some wine and one smaller shot, I was out on the balcony getting steaks off the grill, I come in and she says let's do another shot. She had pre poured, but I had bought the bottle earlier and she took her's first.
As soon as I took mine I knew something was odd. That noted, there was none of the zombiness or going numb for me. My legs gave out and I went straight to the floor. That shit, at least in the quantity I was given, is no joke. E.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2762427]Yeah I'm not sure if I would recommend taking selfies of these girls. Some of these girls want to be discreet and one should respect their privacy. I wouldn't want some girl I just met to be taking random pictures of me either. Talk about killing the mood. At least wait till she's several drinks in if you are going to try to be slick and do that. I'm going solo for the first time but I'm just going to use my common sense. You should be able to notice if something doesn't feel right. Also pay attention to things like how they are dressed. If a girl shows up to a date all covered up like the pic of the chick Paul was with, that to me would of been a red flag already not to mention she was on her phone. A girl should rarely be even looking at her phone if she's on a date with you. Just have to play it smart and I'm going to try to avoid letting a waiter / waitress bring me a beer or drink. I rather go up to the bar and grab it myself.[/QUOTE]If you're planning on using common sense, then being several drinks in with a girl should never happen.
Unfortunately, and this is a bigger problem the more you drink, people don't always pay attention when things don't feel right.
Girls spend a lot of time on their phones. Unless you're able to carry on at least a basic conversation in Spanish, she's likely to be on her phone.
Here are some signs that you might be in trouble:
1. The girl wants you to go to her choice of bar. Don't. Pick where you're going to go. If you're not certain about the girl, meet at a public place, like The Beer Store in Parque Lleras. Watch her arrive, see if anyone is following her. Shortly after she arrives move to a different bar.
2. The girl is insistent that you drink. Don't. If you suspect she has put something in your drink, don't drink it and order something else.
3. Once in your room the girl is hesitant to get naked and get busy. If she's stalling, trying to get you to drink or anything else, send her away.
Don't drink to excess. The more you drink the easier it is to drug you, and the greater risk you'll die from being drugged.
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[QUOTE=JustTK;2762451]Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.
BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?[/QUOTE]Your risk, based on the way you monger is essentially zero. The guys who monger strictly around Parque Lleras have a higher risk. Those who use Tinder have a higher risk. If they party hard, even more risk.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2762454]If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.[/QUOTE]And if you do have that, keep your eyes on your drink.
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[QUOTE=Chicago85;2762340]I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.
I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.[/QUOTE]Do you know what her name is do you have a photo because I have a friend of mine that's active on there he says it's the least dangerous site but apparently not these girls get away with anything I hope you filled out a police report 99.9% of people never do that's why they keep drugging people and never get caught.
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From videos I been watching about victims, it's best to avoid any woman who approaches you wherever you may be, especially if she's with a friend. I would even try to avoid having a conversation with anyone who comes up to you. Stick to women only you approach. Same goes for online.
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La isla
Hey, does any know what the cost of girl in La Isla and Faze dos is now?