Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2762118]They were 100% street girls. They left no doubt about their intentions. I agree with you about the photo op. That is why I shot them in the back.[/QUOTE]Who has an opinion or better some insight or facts regarding "mongering: in Medellin like the people who peruse this list. VS. DIY tourists or guys that use the bachelor party websites (all inclusive type "high end" sex tourists? NOTE the city of Medellin is investing large sums of $ in a major face lift for Lleras and they have corporate backers building hotels like Marquee owned by Casacol. Tourism has more than doubled in the last year, beyond 2019 reported numbers. And still growing. What will the future look like?

I'm planning to follow your recommendations.

Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:

4. Go to New Life during the day.

5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.

6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.

What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?

Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?

Thanks for your suggestions.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2762063]1. Start learning Spanish. An hour a day in 10-15 minute sessions with a language app.

2. Stay at the Mansion. Search Google for Hotel M Medellin and you'll find the website.

3. Bring your own condoms.[/QUOTE]

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6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.

Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion?

[/QUOTE]I heard that the Mansion reception staff are now putting scop in the welcome drinks.

You could of course just go out for the day w 100.000 in your pocket, pick up a couple of street girls, and take them to a short time hotel. In the worst case scenario, all they could do is steal your taxi fare home. In the best case, you could have a lot of fun for USD 20.

[QUOTE=Combo;2762454]If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.[/QUOTE]I don't drink with my girls in my hotel room. I prefer to concentrate on the task at hand and alcohol affects my ability to perform. I let the girls drink beer but I just drink from a bottle of water with a cap. I can see that drinking with girls at your place can increase the risk. Something to think about is whether it is really necessary to drink alcohol with the girl when you are back in your place. Maybe it is a young monger's thing but when you are older, you need to be 100% ready to perform.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2762582]I'm planning to follow your recommendations.

Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:

4. Go to New Life during the day.

5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.

6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.

What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?

Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?

Thanks for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]Girls coming into the Mansion do have ID's checked & info written down before entering both hotel or bar. They can't enter if they have been banned from the Mansion (which occurs if they cause trouble). If you invite outside girls that are not normally Mansion girls, then you may not be as safe. Also some outside girls refuse to go to the Mansion.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2762475]... 1. The girl wants you to go to her choice of bar. Don't. Pick where you're going to go. ....[/QUOTE]And order you own car, don't take the car the girl ordered. minuto30.com reported that the victim was found in Robledo which is a long way from Poblado or Laureles. It also said the victim is the 26th killed this year in similar circumstance.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2762582]I'm planning to follow your recommendations...[/QUOTE]I think you can try to make friends with other mongers or make connections with girls while you are in Mansion to take advantage of it since it is not cheap to stay there. You maybe able to find like minded mongers to learn about Medellin or go out with.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2762594]I don't drink with my girls in my hotel room. I prefer to concentrate on the task at hand and alcohol affects my ability to perform. I let the girls drink beer but I just drink from a bottle of water with a cap. I can see that drinking with girls at your place can increase the risk. Something to think about is whether it is really necessary to drink alcohol with the girl when you are back in your place. Maybe it is a young monger's thing but when you are older, you need to be 100% ready to perform.[/QUOTE]Absolutely f*ing right. I follow exactly the same procedures including drinking water from a capped bottle. Of course my hotel checks on-line and records all the cedula information. I wouldn't say it is impossible to get scoped in this scenario but it is dramatically safer and I've never heard of anyone getting scoped in this hotel or the San Peter which follows similar procedures.

Another worthwhile alternative for those who are new and very concerned with safety. There is a short term hotel on Calle 33 called Thematic Luxury. Not only do both the male and female need to present identification when checking in (passport will work fellows) but the rooms are electronically locked after you enter. You have to call the front desk to get out and they send someone up to check the minibar before they buzz the door open. Also they speak to the guy before buzzing you out or sending someone up to check the room out. No girl is going to scope you when she can't get out of the room.

Rooms there run from 60-90 mil ($12-18) for 3 hours and the pricier rooms have a nice sized jacuzzi.

[QUOTE=DonMedellin;2762284]How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.[/QUOTE]Never been drugged, thank God.

#3 in my opinion is the best of that good list.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2762475]If you're planning on using common sense, then being several drinks in with a girl should never happen.

Unfortunately, and this is a bigger problem the more you drink, people don't always pay attention when things don't feel right.

Girls spend a lot of time on their phones. Unless you're able to carry on at least a basic conversation in Spanish, she's likely to be on her phone..[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure you could stand on la 10 for several days and not see a single person pass by who has been this sort of victim. The odds are against it but it does happen. For argument's sake let's say the 27 documented cases are a subset of 100 or more that includes unreported or unknown cases. It's still a small percentage of the total number of annual visitors. The pattern you see in the reports are inexperienced guys who did not recognize the warning signs. Let's none of us please be one of those guys.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2762451]Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.

BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2762541]Who has an opinion or better some insight or facts regarding "mongering: in Medellin like the people who peruse this list. VS. DIY tourists or guys that use the bachelor party websites (all inclusive type "high end" sex tourists? NOTE the city of Medellin is investing large sums of $ in a major face lift for Lleras and they have corporate backers building hotels like Marquee owned by Casacol. Tourism has more than doubled in the last year, beyond 2019 reported numbers. And still growing. What will the future look like?[/QUOTE]Well thru my lens, mongering in Medellin was much better prior to the Pandemic, yet the City as you mention is becoming a tourist and digital nomad mecca. Since the Pandemic, hordes of foreign mongers have arrived spoiling things not limited to just price and service as reported here. Albeit the foreign mongers with lots of experience in Medellin, and those that either live here or spend six months a year here, and have Spanish speaking skills won't be affected as much as the other mongers.

I plan to definitely connect with the other guys at the Mansion, and of course take advantage of the girls at the Mansion. I haven't seen any recent reports of the number and quality of girls at the Mansion bar. Hoping the pickings aren't so slim that I need to cast a wider net. Regardless of the price of the Mansion, for those of us short time visitors, it is much cheaper than ending up dead in a garbage bag in a ditch. I'll pay more for safety.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2762640]I think you can try to make friends with other mongers or make connections with girls while you are in Mansion to take advantage of it since it is not cheap to stay there. You maybe able to find like minded mongers to learn about Medellin or go out with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustTK;2762584]I heard that the Mansion reception staff are now putting scop in the welcome drinks.

You could of course just go out for the day w 100.000 in your pocket, pick up a couple of street girls, and take them to a short time hotel. In the worst case scenario, all they could do is steal your taxi fare home. In the best case, you could have a lot of fun for USD 20.[/QUOTE]That is in my plan although I figured that I would try the casas like New Life or Zandalay rather than street meat. One notch more expensive, but one notch safer, I assume. Regardless, I won't be bringing my Rolex and laptop and home stereo and gold bars walking around Centro. I can't imagine traveling in a strange city without the guidance of Google maps, however, so I assume all visitors carry a phone, but I'll try to bring a crappy one. How else do you find your way around and use Uber? Or do you use a paper map like in ancient times? If you don't use Uber, do you use a white taxi and have the casa call for one when you are ready to head back to your hotel? Or just pound pavement?

A couple drinks is fine as long as you watch your drink. Just don't get wasted. You make yourself a much easier target. And even if you're drinking water or Coke, you still need to watch your drink. Just keep in mind these girls aren't your friends. Though the good ones can make you feel like it.

The quality at the Mansion can vary a lot. One week might be great, the next week next to nothing. I've stayed dozens of times, but I always end up using other venues to complement what's available on site.