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[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1119119]Definitely closed down for good. I do not believe they opened a new place. There are various posts on Gpguia as to where most of the girls went, but that was 6 months ago, hence most have probably drifted off further to where ever it is that working girls go to end their careers.[/QUOTE]Is that both locations? I know they had another office in Tijuca, but I never actually visited that one.
[QUOTE=Euro100;1118723]Yes, Rio has become horrendously expensive I spent a good $1, 000 on 4 days of sex. If one counts just the number of encounters I had, I could have done better price-wise even in the German FKK scene. But for the sheer emotional intensity Rio cannot be beat! It's still the best way on the planet to spend a short fuckation. I can't wait to be back.[/QUOTE]That about sums it up. With some investment in time and cash, and living here, you can bring the CPF (cost per fuck) down, but you pretty much nailed it.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1119119]Definitely closed down for good. I do not believe they opened a new place. There are various posts on Gpguia as to where most of the girls went, but that was 6 months ago, hence most have probably drifted off further to where ever it is that working girls go to end their careers.[/QUOTE]Flavia's Duda and Carla were reported at Rio Lux, RB 156 Sala 1526 as of a few months ago. This place is okay. 6 months ago they had a frequent fucker card system. Since then, who knows. Like you said. I just know I was never introduced to them at the time, but maybe they were busy.
On the other hand, some of these girls seem to stay forever at a casa so it's worth a try. Think of Duda and Betina at Bel Prazer. [Digressing to a review of her, since she's still there]I fucked Bel Prazer's Duda anal on the last trip and was surprised that her bud was aesthetically pleasing. Seems it would show the mileage. I'll go further and give you the straight story, her asshole looks much better than her face and she has a weird body shape. I think she needs to offer anal to stay employed there because its the only saving grace. I had come there specifically for anal, and selected her over Bianca (much better looking) especially because she is sure-fire anal. Bad mistake. I couldn't really stand to look at her face, turns me off. I didn't want to DFK or DATY, that's rare. We got doggy style and I fucked her anal until the stink was grossing me out. The room smelt like a dumpster. WTF. Maybe enema is overpriced in Brasil like coconuts and baby oil? Contrast this with Petra at Luomo who apparently does realize that she is a puta, and prepares accordingly by keeping her tail pipe clean. I did Petra anal for a long, long time and there was no stink whatsoever. Same with another girl in one of the other Rio Branco casas. No smell.
You're getting at the age old question. Where do the other girls disappear to? A puta doesn't wake up one day and decide to not be a puta anymore. If one casa closes, there are others, or there is VM. Frustrating. It seems to me like everytime I find a real GFE girl, that girl is always a short timer that vaporizes from the scene in less than a few months. Like Brenda at Flavia or Gabrielle at 22. The girls were new to the casas when I had them, within 2 months after my departures they quit and thats a bummer b/c I can't see them again on the next trip. Everytime it's like starting the search all over. But maybe it's a good thing. If I knew where to find that Gabrielle Bar 22 girl that I posted back in June, I might spend the next whole trip fucking her. All the turnover keeps us from becoming too monogamous in our mongering. I never even did repeats till 2010. Now on every trip I end up taking 2 or 3 a day and toward the end, at least one of those is a repeat. Mainly because there are only so many girls who are still willing to take the shot on goal naturally. 80% are either dodging or bagging it, which is not fun. The whole idea of sex is that the cum actually goes in the body somewhere, not in a rubber or on tits, her arm, the floor, etc.
But then I think *again* and wonder if the girls that I like (because they go sem camisinha) don't last at the casas very long because someone got them sick. It's overanalyzing, but hey this is my hobby and I like to understand what goes on behind the scenes...If they had a People magazine covering our favorite putas I'd read it. The Copa termas girls, at least, seem to live a lifestyle where they are celebrities, at least from casa opening time until some gringo kicks them out the next morning. :) Like Ingrid at Luomo...People fuck her and still talk about it 8 years later, and show pictures.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1119332]But maybe it's a good thing. If I knew where to find that Gabrielle girl from Bar 22 that I posted back in June, I might spend the next whole trip fucking her. All the turnover keeps us from becoming too monogamous in our mongering.[/QUOTE]And for further illustration of the point, I must add that there is a finders fee for anyone who can re-introduce me to Gabrielle, formerly of Bar 22, during the week after next. . The 3 of us meet at Bar 22 and I pay your cover + an hour session fee for your efforts, or equivalent compensation. So if anybody has skills to talk that mama at 22 into making the connection using that number that she probably still has in her cell phone, let me know. Once I reach agreement with that girl for quality time at standard Bar 22 rates + R50 Taxi money, you get your compensation as well. Yes, it's that good.
Pardon my poor etiquette in responding to my own post. The forum edit deadline timed out on me...
Finally, I touched down at GIG around 11AM for my 7th trip within the last 7 years. Sitting in front of the plane and with no check-in luggage, I was in out of there in literally 5 minutes. Had to wait about 1/2 hr. For the Onibus. R$8. 00 is very cheap but the bus took 1. 5 hrs. To get to Copacabana. Centro was incredibly busy on the way, with bus being so full that I had to stand with the Carry-on most of the way. Never had that before. Have to rethink about the Onibus next time. Check-in at Atlantico copacabana was a breeze. Anyone interested, I booked it at venere. Com at $110 per night. I think it is a great deal considering the free breakfast and location of the hotel. Went out to change the money and got 1. 68 for the US$. Ate lunch and now I was ready to go to my favorite Terma, Luomo.
i finally reached luomo at 4 pm. showered and off to boite. there were about 15 girls. some usual like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], natalie, bianca among others whom i know by face but not by name. it got busier later on but i still think the talent was on the lighter side. of course, quite a few girls recognized me and approached me but i couldn't decide right away. finally, i decided to go with this girl (sorry, no names). really friendly in the boite. dfk and lots of massage in the boite until i had enough. vamos to the cabine. even better in the cabine. came twice in those short 40 min. walked out with a big smile. this is why i choose rio over any other city. came back to boite, had another drink and decided to check out monte carlo. total damage r$284 including 5 drinks ans a session. not bad really. i checked the bill carefully. i wasnīt charged entrada.
reached monte carlo around 8 pm. met a fellow canadian jc at the reception, who lives like 15 min. from me. wow, it is a small world. we were both alone so decided to hang out together. now, i am not a big fan of monte carlo but last night, it was as good as i've ever seen. there must have been at least 40 girls and about 6 guys including us. we were approached by atleast 20 girls, if not more. by being approched, i don't mean just saying hello, all of them literally sat down with us for a good few minutes, until i politely asked them to leave. there were some good looking girls there. i liked it better than luomo for the first time ever. it was getting around midnight so we decided not to take a girl there and check out the balcony scene.
balcony was busier than ever. you couldn't even walk there. this is my 1st trip since help closed down, so i saw atleast 10 help garotas there among good 40-50 girls. food is not that good and cervajas are at inflated price so most people were just standing around taking to girls, taking their nos. we were approached by a couple of nice looking help garotas and i was quoted r$400 which i laughed off and countered with r$150 which seemed to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off. jc was interested in her friend and both agreed on r$200 but when i didnīt take my girl, he kicked her off and now they were both pissed. anyways, we were there for about 2 hrs. until we decided on a couple of girls. they asked for r$200 each but settled on r$150 each. jc took hers to a nearby motel called lido. i took mine to my hotel. just an ok session. sent her back to balcony for recirculation in less than 1 hr. i was tired with the long flight on previous night and there was on chemistry between us. thatīs why i like termas much better than independent girls.
finally, called it a night around 3 am, with plan to go to 4x4 tomorrow with jc. stay tuned...................
So, as per our plans, we met to go to 4x4 at around 1PM today. Took metro to Carioca station. There's a mall right at exit. We ate there and JC changed some money. Was given shitty 1. 65 to the dollar. I got 1. 68 yesterday in Copacabana. Anyways, by the time we got to 4x4, it was almost 3 Pm. It is pretty hot in Rio so we showered and changed and then to boite. It took us all of 5 minutes to find our girls. Both were very nice. Hung out for an hour before going to the cabine before 5PM. I would say that there were less girls there then my last trip but still some very doables. I had a good session. Nothing spectacular but certainly not bad. May be it's my luck but I've never had an amazing session at 4x4. On the other hand, I 've had several memorable experiences in Lúomo and Monte Carlo. Well, JC had an amazing time with his girl. We met back at boite, had another cerveja and decided to get to Luomo before 7 Pm to save half on entrada.
We made it to Lúomo about 5 minutes before 7. It was pretty busy. About 12-15 guys. I think that's a lot of guys for a small boite like in Lúomo. Most of the same girls. Few came over to greet but I decided to repeat my yesterday's girl. JC could not decide so he waited for me to come back from the session. Needless to say, it was even better than yesterday. Very intimate and real GFE. In the cabine, she asked for my phone no. and I said that I had a problem getting a SIM card. So, she promised to bring one for me tomorrow and said that tomorrow is her last day at work because she has a vacation of 6 days until next Friday and that she would like to hang out with me during those days. Now, I will have to think about hooking up with her during one of those days, may be go to the beach or go to some tourist places. Anyways, did I mention she knocked my socks off. Back to boite. JC still hadnīt decided so we hung around there more. There were a couple of small 1 song shows as usual. One girl had a birthday yesterday so she cut the cake and everybody cheered. Cake was pretty good actually. It tasted even better when my girl brought her plate over and fed me a couple of pieces. To anybody interested, Ingrid was there yesterday. Few guys left and a big group of Brazilian guys came in which made every girl to dance and show there skills. But as we all know, most of them, donīt take the girl in the cabine. JC was getting tired so he left around 11 for an hourīs rest and promised to meet in my hotelīs lobby at midnight to go to Balcony again. Of course, I stayed until 11:45 and chatted with a bunch of girls, attracting jealous looks from my girl. oh well, I am not a one woman man.
So we walked to Balcony and it was a zoo as usual. Today, I saw atleast 30-40 Help girls. I think Balcony has filled the void of Terracco Atlantico to some extent. Few good looking ones entered in Dolce Vita. I still havenīt been inside but I understand that it is very small place. Some of the previous ugly Help girls have even more attitude than before. I wasnīt looking to hook up with anybody but JC was eager to find one. He found one allright. We were talking to these 2 girls, very pretty nicely dressed, real pros who spoke good english and insisting to takeīem both at good price for a Festa. If any girl speaks english, Iīm usually not interested but they were both very pretty. While we were talking, one of the girlīs sister showed up and JC fell in love right then and there. She was 18 but looked no more than 14. Tall, skinny, Nice medium white skin curly brunette, Denim shorts. Better than the girls we were talking to. JC didnīt waste any time. Grabbed her hand, asked me to wait for 1 hr. and he was gone with her without even saying a word to her. So he returned after 1 hr. with a smile. Reported that she insisted on money first, although he usually doesnīt pay first, he did pay US$125 beforehand. At that price, she said that BJ will be covered and she asked for another US$ 50 for BBBJ, which JC didnīt wanna pay. But after that, he had one of the best sex experiences ever, with lots of pictures which he later showed me on his iphone. JC claimed her to be an animal which I believe after looking at the pictures. We hung out until 4 AM, chatted with a few girls and walked back.
Tomorrow will be a Centaurus day, followed by who knows where but definitely ending at Balcony. So keep reading guys and if anybody wants to meet up for a beer or ten, you are most welcome to. Just PM me.
I know this is the Rio forum, but, when I went to the appropriate thread for this, the last post was from March of last year. Anyway, I recently learned that Recife was the jump off point for Brazilians bound for Europe for sex work. Given this info, I was just wondering if this meant there were alot of girls available there for P4P. Any info?
Rodeo
I made my first trip to RIO in January 2011.
I had a lot of information from the forum. Thank you for posting your experiences. It helps a lot especially when it is your first time.
I had really a great time and I am still, few weeks after, under the charm of this city (country?).
Rio was not the top priority on my wish list. In South America, I was attracted by Buenos Aires and Argentina.
One of my best friend is working in Rio so we decided to visit him with another friend. I spent 5 days there and went also 4 days to Buenos Aires. And I really enjoyed Rio much more.
Day 1.
I arrived on early Saturday morning. Direction Ipanema where my friend is living. After beach, caipirinha and lunch we went to L'uomo. I was really impatient to have this first experience. I know well Fkk in Germany and appreciate them so I was quite convinced to have a good time in termas.
We went to L'uomo early, about 4PM. And it was great. About 20 girls (good looking in average) and only few guys. I had some drinks and found a very nice looking girl (white color, brunette and very nice face with lovely eyes, not tall when she removed her high heels. 27 years she told me). Had a chat with her (she speaks very good english) and choose 1 hour. Sorry no name because I have some difficulties in remembering the names! Let's called her Nathalie. I was happy with the quality of the room. And the session was really good. First experience which will stay in my memory. Maybe already in love (I fall in love easily).
After dinner and bar in Lapa we went to Balcony. I have been completely disappointed by Balcony. I completely agree with some posts comparing it to the bar scene from Star Wars. I went there 4 times in total to try to get a better picture and I have been always disappointed.
Girls are far from pretty. And guys. Forget it!
First night there was only one girl (Adrianna) who was tall, slim and nice face (despite bad teeth). She told me she had been strip dancer in US. Had a chat together, she gave me her number. But she was quite boring, complicated and I was tired by the flight. We left.
Day 2.
Sunday. I knew some termas were closed. So we went to Monte Carlo. Good experience also. I had a one hour session with a nice small blond girl. We had a nice room with a kind of Jacusi. The session was good and we finished with a bath and a massage. The girl was really lovely. When we went back to the bar she came back several times to kiss me, to dance with me. Again in love?
Then Balcony (again nothing) and dinner.
After dinner, my friend arranged a meeting with a girl he knows. She was looking for a party with 3 guys. We went to a motel in Leblon. Was not easy to find because first one did not allow us to enter as we were more than a couple. Finally find a real nice one. It was a dupleix with an internal swimming pool.
Had a nice and funny moment. We know each other since many years and it was terrific! The girl was incredible and really asking for sex. She did it just for fun and for free.
Day 3.
We went to Centro to test 4x4. I did not enjoyed. I know many of you recommend this termas. Maybe I was there not a the right time or day (Monday. 2-3 PM). There were not the 50 girls I have been told, but maybe 20 or 30. But mainly the quality was poor and I have not been convinced by the equipment of the termas. Went out, no session.
Back to Zona sul.
We went to Centaurus. I had read many comments on Centaurus about poor management and prices. But I wanted to see the quality of the girls. We went there about 5 PM.
Basically we always went early to the termas, as per some of your recommendations, to avoid the busy times and keep a complete evening.
When we arrived at Centaurus I was really on the defensive. I discussed with the guy at the entrance who asked me to pay entrance + 1 session. I asked him what about if I don't find a girl I like. And he told me : okay just pay the entrance and you will pay the session after (what he just refused to the guy before me!).
So we entered the Centaurus. I did not find many differences with other termas that can justify a different policy.
The girls were okay on average but not really above L'Uomo standards. But they are much pushy. That's what I did not like there. It was not a big pressure but constant. I finally had a chat with a Brunette girl (lebanese origin) speaking fluent english. Her name is Desiree. I just remember it now! We had a 40' session together which was correct (not great, she declined my anal offer but was lovely however).
I went back to the bar (it was maybe 7 PM) and then I noticed some new girls (2) which were really nice looking. The problem of Centaurus is that there is a room where the girls can have some rest. I discover it when I went to the room with Desiree and found one very nice girl there. I saw her later at bar. Except these 2 girls, the average quality of girls was close to L'uomo. But there are more girls at Centaurus and the bar is bigger.
Finally the experience was okay and I have not been pissed by tips requests which surprised me.
But I prefered L'uomo because the girls don't approach you if you don't ask them. That was the only termas with this policy (by Monte Carlo. 4x4 and Centaurus, girls are +- pushy).
Day 4.
I was alone this day. I decided to go to L'uomo, for the reasons I just explained. But also to see the girl I was in love (my first brasilian experience!). I entered L'uomo, went to bar. See "my" girl,"Nathalie". Kissed her. Still very nice. 30 eyes on you. Had some drinks. Offer a drink to her and back to a wonderful session. After this session I had the feeling to have discovered some of the charms of Brasil. The girl was really like my girl friend. She was really generous in sharing emotions. I never had such a session with a girl I paid before. I can hardly imagine such an experience in a other places I know.
We had a very open discussion after. I offered her to join me on Saturday night. She was okay first and then told me that it would be better not to do it. We understood together that we were beginning to share feelings difficult to manage. I was disappointed. But afterwards it would have been really difficult for me to leave the country!
Day 5 : I took a flight to Buenos Aires where I could visit some well known places (Black, Cocodrilo.). Really not the same fun as in Brasil even if girls are pretty.
I came back to Rio on Saturday but very late (midnight). Too late for L'uomo. Fuck! We went to Barbarella, just to have a look. Only few nice looking girls. Not really worth to my opinion. Back to Balcony to have a drink. Same conclusion on girls quality but it was even worse for the guys (really looking like gold diggers).
And that's all for this first experience. I am now back home and still have these souvenirs in my head. I can't wait to be back. Meantime I am listening brasilian musique, always keeping an eye on news on the forum. I try to learn some words in Portuguese. And I prepare my next trip! And I think it will be difficult for me to wait long.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112; 1119836]I know this is the Rio forum, but, when I went to the appropriate thread for this, the last post was from March of last year. Anyway, I recently learned that Recife was the jump off point for Brazilians bound for Europe for sex work. Given this info, I was just wondering if this meant there were alot of girls available there for P4P. Any info?
Rodeo[/QUOTE]I am not disputing what you say, just curious where you got the information. Do you mean girls from other parts of Brazil go through Recife? Most of the girls traveling from Rio fly Air France to Charles De Gaulle then to Spain and Italy.
Totos: "" I was in love (my first brasilian experience!). I entered L'uomo, went to bar. See "my" girl,"Nathalie".""
Yup, I know what you mean. She is a sweetie. From you report I understand that you were with Natalie last Friday, I. E. One week ago. Next day it was Spencer's turn, and then I plowed the same field on Sunday. As with many of the term girls, Natalie can be seriously habit-forming."Love"? Yes, perhaps in the wider sense.
Too bad you did not remember any other names besides Natalie's.
Seems you are having a good time in the termas, but not a great time. Yet. My advice would be to hit the termas later. 4*4 really gets going between 6 and 8 pm, and then the place can be wild :cool:. I now try to avoid going to the termas before 6, instead hitting privates before then.
[QUOTE=Sexmachine1;1119806]..decided to get to Luomo before 7 Pm to save half on entrada.[/QUOTE]Thanks for confirming that Luomo still has 1/2 off entrada before 7 pm. Is the full basic pricing still R315? R70 entrada plus R245 per 40 minutes?
4x4 waives it 100% before 5 pm, unless something has changed. I will confirm in <2 weeks.
Can anyone else comment on MC or Solarium discounts?
I find termas essential on Sundays and the last day in town. Sundays are a drag, all my favorite low end places are closed. I go to Luomo. On the last day in town, I need to check out long before the flight leaves. So I go eat, drink sucos and watch garotas go by, then walk to 4x4 and have fun until time to leave. A good lay and a shower before going to GIG makes leaving Rio a little easier. Keeps suadades at bay at least until the plane wheels go up. I remember one guy here getting to GIG and he couldn't do it, he turned right back around. Maybe he didn't stop in for one of the early bird specials before leaving? :)
Thanks for the posts Euro100, Sexmachine, and Totos!
[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1119949]Thanks for confirming that Luomo still has 1/2 off entrada before 7 pm. Is the full basic pricing still R315? R70 entrada plus R245 per 40 minutes?
4x4 waives it 100% before 5 pm, unless something has changed. I will confirm in <2 weeks.
Can anyone else comment on MC or Solarium discounts?
Thanks for the posts Euro100, Sexmachine, and Totos! [/QUOTE][B]Monte Carlo:[/B]
[url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/milhagem.shtml[/url] (700 Points. Free entrance with 40 minute program)
Sign up at physical location (also give e-mail to receptionist for other discounts)
[url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com.br/festainternet.shtml[/url]
Provide your e-mail and receive free entrance on Monday e-mails (used to be Tuesday)
In both cases you will receive e-mails about special events.
[B]Solarium:[/B]
[url]http://www.solarium.com.br/fidelidade.php[/url] (1000 points. Free entrance with 40 minute program)
You accumulate 1. 3 points for R$ spent.
[url]http://www.solarium.com.br/festadointernauta.php[/url]
As best as I can tell Solarium also offers an e-mail program for a free entrance on Monday.
Same deal. Give them an e-mail address either in person or online and you will receive e-mail notifications of special events.
At both locations when you sign up for the points program they will ask for your name and scan your forefinger. You do not have to give them your real name. When you return, they will ask to rescan your forefinger to credit your points.
[QUOTE=Euro100;1119892]Seems you are having a good time in the termas, but not a great time. Yet. My advice would be to hit the termas later. 4*4 really gets going between 6 and 8 pm, and then the place can be wild :cool:. I now try to avoid going to the termas before 6, instead hitting privates before then.[/QUOTE]In the case of 4x4 I try to get there early, select a girl, take her to the somewhat private bar (I know they remodeled but I think it is still there) , have a drink, chat a bit then go to the room. I prefer to be well on my way before the macho guys with their robes around their waists playing grab ass with the girls make it impossible to move or check out a girl's butt.