Medellin Reports

Maybe he resisted at one point or another, or he might have died from an adverse reaction to the drug that they used.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2763192]Terrible that they felt they needed to kill him after drugging him.[/QUOTE]

I just noticed the report that the visit to Medellin was his first trip outside the United States. I was surprised to see that because I saw an earlier report that described him as an avid traveler.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2763192]Terrible that they felt they needed to kill him after drugging him.[/QUOTE]

It seems a bit excessive but I'm glad it works for you.

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2763077]A small supplement to JjBee's useful advice, which captures my own cell phone security practice, except for the following additional precaution which some might find useful.

My every sojourn in Medellin, I intend to get a SIM card for a burner phone, but never get around to doing so, and instead end up carrying my "irreplaceable" iPhone with me most everywhere. However, especially in sketchy neighborhoods or at night, as an added theft-prevention measure, instead of carrying my phone in a front pocket, I'll tuck it under my shirt and belt and halfway into my underpants It always has felt quite secure lodged in there, albeit my happening to sport jockey shorts rather than boxer briefs may provide a little extra protection against the phone slipping unnoticed down a pants leg. I still find it quite easy to extract the phone when stepping into a doorway to check a text or google maps. Been doing this for five years now when mongering in Colombia and never have misplaced a phone or had one ripped off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2763192]Terrible that they felt they needed to kill him after drugging him.[/QUOTE]Often it is because of dosage of the drug. The "homemade" version is very likely unpredictable as far as strength.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2763213]Often it is because of dosage of the drug. The "homemade" version is very likely unpredictable as far as strength.[/QUOTE]Also they got to work very quick. Its not like they are going to carry a spatula around with them and measure it out.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2762950]... will the victim be in a state of mind where they would open a security box in their apartment knowingly while intoxicated / drugged, etc. ....[/QUOTE]There is a guy who rides a BMW Adventure was drugged by a Tinder date and hold for several days to empty his bank account. Search robbery in Colombia on youtube and look at the incidents reported this year and you will get an idea about safety in Colombia. Several bloggers were robbed and most of them consider themselves experienced traveler.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2763067]Excellent info! Thanks![/QUOTE]You don't need to take out your phone if you have a Bluetooth headset and use it to listen the the instruction from the map.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2762950]This whole topic raises a question that perhaps you and / or others can answer. [/QUOTE]It also raises another question. What happened to the steaks he was cooking?

While I don't live there, I travel to Medellin monthly. So based on that, my answer is that, from a weather perspective, neither time is any better or worse than the other AT THE MOMENT. The weather in Medellin has been shit (with rare exceptions) for more than one year. And my ex-in-laws report to me that there's been a lot of rain in Bogota as well. Eventually La Nina will pass and Medellin will get back to being the City of Eternal Spring,. But not yet. So pick the time that works best for you or do both.

P.S. - to reiterate, it's currently not a "rain on and off" situation in Medellin. It's mostly rain on. My recollection is that you often get a few hours in the morning that are nice and if you are lucky it extends into the early afternoon, but after that expect there to be rain in the afternoon and evening. Sometimes all night. It's been kind of a bummer. Luckily the jacuzzi on the roof of the apartment where I stay has a roof over the top of it, so I can at least be in the jacuzzi when it rains, optimally with a chica.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2763151]I have been in Medellin & Bogota 5 times. Only the last time it rained so much I left early (after 10 weeks) trying to shoot pictures of waterfalls with a drone was a disaster. Rainy day women are fun but even they get tiring. So I have a 3 week trip planned / booked to arrive next week, Thanksgiving. OR I can cancel that and come for 3 weeks starting February 15. Who has an opinion I know it will be cold in Bogota, doesn't bother me. I know it will rain on and off in Medellin. I hate High humidly with the heat in Cartagena (OK never been there as yet) Which time of the year would you guys recommend. Now or February?

Side note: it will be sunny and 72 F in Tijuana / Ensenada / San Diego all winter. Bullets flying. (not raining bullets on me I hope) been there far too many times.[/QUOTE]

Is the Hotel Nutibara guest friendly? I stayed there in Jan 2019 and they did not allow guests after 6 PM. I wonder what is the policy now.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2763294]Is the Hotel Nutibara guest friendly? I stayed there in Jan 2019 and they did not allow guests after 6 PM. I wonder what is the policy now.[/QUOTE]For me they are chica friendly, but I follow rules: real ID req and left with reception, and only short time 1-2 hour conjugal visits. Also being a frequent client helps! Luvchicas.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2763294]Is the Hotel Nutibara guest friendly? I stayed there in Jan 2019 and they did not allow guests after 6 PM. I wonder what is the policy now.[/QUOTE]I was just there in August / Sept and didn't have any issues.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2762930]Yes, it was slipped in a shot / trago of aguadiente.

To be honest, I rarely drink hard liquor anymore, but I had bought it to take to a Paisa friends place later in the week for a small get together. When the girl arrived we had some red wine first. Then she saw the aguadiente and asked if I liked it, which I affirmed. She said she did too (which should have been a sign as most girls don't! I opened it and poured small shots first as she only looked like 110 lbs.

I then put some steaks on the balcony grill and continued chatting with her through the doorway (I speak conversational spanish). I wrap up steaks and go back inside where she has larger pre poured shots suggests we do another one. I say ok if you do yours first. She does, gives me a wink, and says your turn. I do mine next and as I did it I could see it was cloudy, but it was too late. Hit me like a ton of bricks and 'big tree, fell hard'.

Other reports talk about a 'Zombie' state. I didn't experience that, but it may have just been due to my dosage. My experience was more akin to what people say when they've been date raped.[/QUOTE]Amigo, I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you thank God you're alive but I do want to steer you somewhere it wouldn't be a bad idea if you went to Facebook and joined the group Medellin hall of shame, that group focuses on prevention of getting drugged or robbed by the girls we date in Medellin also they post everybody's story it would be great if you could post your story there. You could possibly save somebody's life add yourself to the group and mention when you're trying to join that you had recently got scoped. Nobody in the group has ever been drugged since they joined it definitely helps.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2762948]Yes I've heard the stories.

1. They blow the power into your face. That's James Bond, not real life. It would require exceptional precision and timing, and you'd still be "what the fuck? Hey asshole what was that all about?

2. The girl puts it on her skin, so when you kiss her you get drugged. That's a lot of kissing and would require about 10 times the dosage. Plus Scopolamine can be absorbed through the skin so they are more likely to drug themselves.

3. They put it on doorknobs. That one came from a YouTube Medellin "expert. " Unless you're sucking doorknobs or immediately linking your hands after grabbing a doorknob, not much of a risk.

Occam's Razor. The easiest way is probably the right way. It's not difficult for a pretty girl to get a gringo to drink with her. It's not complicated for a pretty girl to distract a drunk gringo long enough to put something in his drink. If you're in a bar suggested by the girl, she can easily have accomplices drug your drink.[/QUOTE]Any day of the week I would rather be paranoid than drugged and robbed. Is it possible new drugs and methods can emerge? IDK, but bottom line, know the rules of the game before you roll the dice. More rules you know, greater the chances of winning. Any game where the loser ends up drugged / robbed / maybe even dead- is a game I want my odds as high as possible. To each their own though.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2762950]This whole topic raises a question that perhaps you and / or others can answer. Whatever the drugs are that get used, will the victim be in a state of mind where they would open a security box in their apartment knowingly while intoxicated / drugged, etc. I know guys with a gun to their head would do so, but it sounds like in a lot of cases the guys just pass out and then get robbed. And your to be commended for sharing your experience, you can never let your guard down because when you least expect it, you can jacked up.[/QUOTE]I can only share my experience. I don't think these girls are smart enough to titrate the dose and I do believe I was given scolpamine vs ketamine or something else.

My dose was somewhat cloudy and I believe quite large, enough to knock me out quickly and completely for 2 days (scary stuff), but I survived as I'm 210 lbs. I'm making a leap, but Paul (kid who was killed) may have been given a similar dose and being smaller didn't make it.

One member asked about security, the girl, and girl's potential accomplice. Firstly, this building is in a nice Laureles neighborhood (Conquistadores) and did not have security / portero. I've been going to Medellin for 10 years and thought I was fine without it. Had stayed at this place 2 times prior. And liked the ease of a couple girls a day and more of my own place. While there is no security you do need a key to be let out of the building. None of my keys were taken so I'm still not completely sure how she got out or how she was smart enough to think of it. I do think she (and potential accomplice) could have been rummaging through my things for 2-3 hours while I was passed out though as the steaks were half eaten (bastards!) and they found a few things I'd hidden. At some point she / they recognized the need for door keys and found them in my main room.

I am guessing that she had an accomplice based upon the number of items taken (loaded into luggage which she also stole) and that I was in communication with her. Or whomever responded, afterwards and they noted discussions with their 'novio. ' I was trying to buy my items back, but it didn't work out. I also had / have decent cuts on my arms and hands although I'm not sure if they're from me defending myself or falling. They did use my face image to get into my phone and laptop, so I could have been trying to prevent that. It remains a mystery.

Also, for what it's worth, My credit cards were also used in the Manrique, Boston, and Bello areas while I was knocked out.