Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2762979]I understand how you are feeling coming off of the incident, but it does not have to stop. If the chick is a real nonpro and not someone up to no good then it is easy to find this out by vetting her.

One of the first things I ask a chick is what she does for a living..... The don't have idle time to putz off.

Colombia is not like the Dominican Republic where chicks will sit on their ass for years staring at the sky without a job. Chicks that have jobs are not the ones out doing this kind of nefarious stuff.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right about due diligence, although I don't know that they all need a serious job. Many girls I'm with, and same with others, are students or 'influencers / sugar babbies'. What I will share is that someone on FB or Reddit mentioned that he won't go out with a girl that doesn't at least have IG. I'd say 95% of young Colombian women have it. I mean this is a country heavily focused on aesthetics and image. If she won't share then something is up. If you have that from them and some interaction I think you can weed out a good number of the bad ones.

[QUOTE=QueRico;2763329]Amigo, I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you thank God you're alive but I do want to steer you somewhere it wouldn't be a bad idea if you went to Facebook and joined the group Medellin hall of shame, that group focuses on prevention of getting drugged or robbed by the girls we date in Medellin also they post everybody's story it would be great if you could post your story there. You could possibly save somebody's life add yourself to the group and mention when you're trying to join that you had recently got scoped. Nobody in the group has ever been drugged since they joined it definitely helps.[/QUOTE]Thank you for that! I was invited to the Scolopamine group for Colombia. Is that the same one? There are 4,000 guys in that. Unfortunately this drugging is quite prevalent.

The Scolopamine group was also helpful to make connections with those that want to raise awareness of this and force the Medellin Mayor and Police to do a bit more about it. Who knows what might happen, but stay tuned.

Wait, WTAF, there is a scolopamine group that is 4,000 strong? My life has been a lie.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763350]Thank you for that! I was invited to the Scolopamine group for Colombia. Is that the same one? There are 4,000 guys in that. Unfortunately this drugging is quite prevalent.

The Scolopamine group was also helpful to make connections with those that want to raise awareness of this and force the Medellin Mayor and Police to do a bit more about it. Who knows what might happen, but stay tuned.[/QUOTE]

January through April and June through October are the least rainy periods in Medellin.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2763288]While I don't live there, I travel to Medellin monthly. So based on that, my answer is that, from a weather perspective, neither time is any better or worse than the other AT THE MOMENT. The weather in Medellin has been shit (with rare exceptions) for more than one year. And my ex-in-laws report to me that there's been a lot of rain in Bogota as well. Eventually La Nina will pass and Medellin will get back to being the City of Eternal Spring,. But not yet. So pick the time that works best for you or do both.

P.S. - to reiterate, it's currently not a "rain on and off" situation in Medellin. It's mostly rain on. My recollection is that you often get a few hours in the morning that are nice and if you are lucky it extends into the early afternoon, but after that expect there to be rain in the afternoon and evening. Sometimes all night. It's been kind of a bummer. Luckily the jacuzzi on the roof of the apartment where I stay has a roof over the top of it, so I can at least be in the jacuzzi when it rains, optimally with a chica.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2762925]Is there a scenario where they can drug you without you drinking? I've heard stories through the years of such but they all seem to be too far-fetch in my opinion.[/QUOTE]There are other possibilities as others have listed. But the easiest by far is in a drink. Which doesn't necessarily have to be alcoholic.

Watch your drink, whether it be booze or Diet Coke.

And they're less likely to do it in a public place because if you go unconscious in a restaurant or club, it might be hard to explain. Which doesn't mean it will never happen.

The drugging is much more of a concern for me than anything that could be stolen from me. I could replace everything in my apartment and dispute or pay off unauthorized credit card charges without a problem. You never know how you will react to a substance you haven't previously ingested. It's frightening to even think about it.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763347]I can only share my experience. I don't think these girls are smart enough to titrate the dose and I do believe I was given scolpamine vs ketamine or something else.

My dose was somewhat cloudy and I believe quite large, enough to knock me out quickly and completely for 2 days (scary stuff), but I survived as I'm 210 lbs. I'm making a leap, but Paul (kid who was killed) may have been given a similar dose and being smaller didn't make it.

One member asked about security, the girl, and girl's potential accomplice. Firstly, this building is in a nice Laureles neighborhood (Conquistadores) and did not have security / portero. I've been going to Medellin for 10 years and thought I was fine without it. Had stayed at this place 2 times prior. And liked the ease of a couple girls a day and more of my own place. While there is no security you do need a key to be let out of the building. None of my keys were taken so I'm still not completely sure how she got out or how she was smart enough to think of it. I do think she (and potential accomplice) could have been rummaging through my things for 2-3 hours while I was passed out though as the steaks were half eaten (bastards!) and they found a few things I'd hidden. At some point she / they recognized the need for door keys and found them in my main room.

I am guessing that she had an accomplice based upon the number of items taken (loaded into luggage which she also stole) and that I was in communication with her. Or whomever responded, afterwards and they noted discussions with their 'novio. ' I was trying to buy my items back, but it didn't work out. I also had / have decent cuts on my arms and hands although I'm not sure if they're from me defending myself or falling. They did use my face image to get into my phone and laptop, so I could have been trying to prevent that. It remains a mystery.

Also, for what it's worth, My credit cards were also used in the Manrique, Boston, and Bello areas while I was knocked out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763347]I can only share my experience. Also, for what it's worth, My credit cards were also used in the Manrique, , and Bello areas while I was knocked out.[/QUOTE]What your sharing is an eye opener, as nobody on this thread as I recall over the past five years has ever shared in such detail as to what happened to them after being drugged like you.

A heavy duty wake up call for sure.

I'm assuming there was no safety box in the apartment, or if there was, it had a physical key versus being electric?

And what about your Passport, did they leave that behind?

And again, thanks for sharing your story!

MDE comments.

I have not been to MDE in several years and only two times in the last dozen years or so and not an expert. But I remember my first time quite well. It was def going to be a mongering trip and I was also traveling solo. Through these pages, I met this middle age fellow from NYC area and we arranged to meet on my arrival. When the date finally arrived, I met this guy and his quite unattractive Colombian GF at a cafe in MDE. He was not a handsome guy, bald, overweight and did not seem very worldly either. Nevertheless, he did give me the lowdown at the time on how to pursue chicks in MDE and we parted friends shortly after.

I did not contact him again and went my own way. I found a small hotel to stay near Parque Lleras owned by an American guy named Tom who was a former Florida cop. From what I heard, he has long since fled the scene and returned to US. Another American I know called Dave F. Owned a bar at the time in Parque Lleras called The Alamo. I met him there on of my first nights in MDE and also met this Colombian girl. She was with some friends and a cousin from Florida. We all ended up at her friends condo where her buddy told me go ahead and bang her if you want, which I promptly did at his condo. She ended up being a bit needy so threw back in the pond but did also monger a bit at one of the clubs. Think I was at Fase1 or something similar. Had one hottie from there before I left town.

However, a few weeks after I left, I read that the guy I met off ISG was found dead in a short term hotel room. Don't think they ever solved it like so many others since then.

I visited another time because I met a nice woman and her Mom who were traveling in Peru and invited me for a visit. Though I never got laid, I did enjoy my time with as as they took me to their relatives finca out by the airport. Overall it was a good time but as on my first trip it rained constantly and it was the cold and hard version so for me coming for the weather does not make sense.

But it seems to me that MDE is much too dangerous to even consider coming again. Going through all the elaborate means to hide your phone, vet the chicas, and generally keep your wits about you does not a good holiday make.

Mr international made a great point. If these girls have no jobs and are "loosely" employed yellow flags should go up. See how she talks, especially in texting. If the slang is strong, probably not a university student either. Again, this is something guys who live there or visit would spot more easily who are the grillas, or the scope queens. It's actually quite easy to spot the non grillas. But these chicks are not so easy to crack and are not into p4 p perhaps especially if you are not in their social circle or know locals. The weekend warriors and mongers who visit sporadically I am assuming stick to the p4 p girls who happen to look more on the grilla side. Again, there are normal looking girls who may work on the side etc. Just takes time to find them.

I'm going to go off on a tangent as I want to share my experiences. I lived full time in medellin for 2 years several years back and visit every year for a few weeks since. When I first visited medellin I stayed in an Airbnb in laureles and a roommate said that he keeps his wallet in the fridge where the butter is kept. Yet I read in. A post here that the crooks actually took the butter too! I am certain they will ransack the apartment. What advice could I give you? Use a burner phone, old laptop and have a second credit card that has a max withdrawal rate per week or month etc. What's wrong with love motels? The locals use them. I read on here and shout out to the poster this particular motel has electronic locks on the doors. Nobody can leave without being escorted. Ok, let's say she is brazen and drugs you up in the motel and does a faux hysteric Latina berserk "show". Much like how Colombians use the phrase haciendo el show when children act out. Let's hope the motel staff keep her while the police are called. There are phone tracking apps where you can follow your phone. There are apps which can help you track other peoples phones. It's on the illegal side so I won't get into that part.

What's going to happen to these scopa gangs? My guess is that there will be more of them as the economy is not looking good anywhere. Ohhh saw a great documentary by vice on the synthetic drug tussi. Guys stay away from that crap. It got its name from 2 cb which was created in the 1970's but this new version even may have fentanyl. This version is not 2 cb. It's a concoction of drugs with pink food colouring. Any chick doing it in your apartment just be careful she does not die then you have a headache dealing with police etc. Even false accusations ohhh you gringo monster poisoned this angels from Manrique with the huge tattoo on her leg and her name is "Leidy Yanet Quintero Restrepo (made up name). Tussi is not 2 cb.

Told ya off on a tangent. Next address I hope to talk about more healthier stuff like 3 somes etc. Confession, that is still on my bucket list. To each his own. Guys be safe! Remember there are motels that are more secure than your building. They are quite affordable and safer IMHO.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2763350]Thank you for that! I was invited to the Scolopamine group for Colombia. Is that the same one? There are 4,000 guys in that. Unfortunately this drugging is quite prevalent.

The Scolopamine group was also helpful to make connections with those that want to raise awareness of this and force the Medellin Mayor and Police to do a bit more about it. Who knows what might happen, but stay tuned.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/mdehallofshame[/URL] they are posting about the girl.

Someone make a long list of SAFE Vs. RISKY ways of getting laid here. Put it into a post of distinction and save some lives. Elvis?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2763416][URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/mdehallofshame[/URL] they are posting about the girl.

Someone make a long list of SAFE Vs. RISKY ways of getting laid here. Put it into a post of distinction and save some lives. Elvis?[/QUOTE]The post needs to be posted elsewhere, then the link posted in links to posts of distinction. I'll work on it if I can finish before the drugs kick in.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2762948]Yes I've heard the stories.

1. They blow the power into your face. That's James Bond, not real life. It would require exceptional precision and timing, and you'd still be "what the fuck? Hey asshole what was that all about?

2. The girl puts it on her skin, so when you kiss her you get drugged. That's a lot of kissing and would require about 10 times the dosage. Plus Scopolamine can be absorbed through the skin so they are more likely to drug themselves.

3. They put it on doorknobs. That one came from a YouTube Medellin "expert. " Unless you're sucking doorknobs or immediately linking your hands after grabbing a doorknob, not much of a risk.

Occam's Razor. The easiest way is probably the right way. It's not difficult for a pretty girl to get a gringo to drink with her. It's not complicated for a pretty girl to distract a drunk gringo long enough to put something in his drink. If you're in a bar suggested by the girl, she can easily have accomplices drug your drink.[/QUOTE]According to the below article, you cannot be drugged through skin absorption or getting the drug blown into your face. It's definitely being administered through drinks. I'm visiting Medellin next month for the first time, but when I was in Bogota, I made sure to never leave my drink unattended (even when they were in my apartment) and didn't get drunk. If I took a drink from my fridge, I made sure it was sealed. I may have let one take a sip from my bottle, but still kept eyes on her.

[URL]https://amp.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2015/sep/02/devils-breath-aka-scopolamine-can-it-really-zombify-you[/URL]

I see Chicago85 is an experienced traveler and his story reminds me that having a front desk that scans all visitors' ID is important. You can't avoid all scammer, but having to provide their real names and photos can help keep you safe.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2763371]The drugging is much more of a concern for me than anything that could be stolen from me. I could replace everything in my apartment and dispute or pay off unauthorized credit card charges without a problem. You never know how you will react to a substance you haven't previously ingested. It's frightening to even think about it.[/QUOTE]Yes indeed, those doing the drugging aren't physicians, and you could easily die. If your going to be robbed, might as well be with a gun held to your head.

After all this discussion about drugging's, I am going to bring it back to why guys come to Colombia, the young attractive chicas and the good GFE experiences for a reasonable price.

I was in Medellin during the same week that Paul and. Was killed and a fellow board member was drugged and robbed. I already posed a short trip summary so you know that I had a good time and everything went well. There was no time when I felt in danger and I did not have any concerns about any of my girls. I stuck exclusively to Facebook and I chatted for a while with most of the girls who I decided to meet to come to my hotel room. My hotel copied the ID card of the girls.

I will describe my experience with MM and it was typical of all my sessions.

I had chatted with her a few weeks prior to my trip and we had pleasant small talk. She did the usual sweet talk about how excited she was to meet me and how handsome I was.

Then I contacted her when I was in Medellin and she said she wanted to meet me. I offered 200 mil for 2 hours plus transport and she accepted. I asked for sex without a condom and she said that would be fine. I was busy with other girls for a while but when I finally got back to her, she was eager to meet. She arrived within 30 minutes of the scheduled time which is acceptable to me in light of traffic in Medellin.

She is 24, slim, petite, small breasts, pretty face, no kids. She is a webcam model. She spoke some English but not a lot. I speak some basic Spanish but not a lot. Google Translate was very helpful.

She was very friendly and easy to chat with (using the translator).

I gave her a sensual massage to start and she said she really enjoyed it. I enjoyed putting my hands all over that beautiful body and I find that a massage puts a woman at ease.

She has smooth skin. She gave me a good blowjob, mixing up techniques and I was happy. Then she got on top, grabbed my cock and eased it in. Nothing like the first moment when your cock slips into a tight pussy bareback. It's very nice. She was very energetic and really got into it. Then we switched to doggy which is always great for the view and I pounded away. Finally, for the finish, we switched to missionary and I pumped away until I finished with a nice creampie. She was in no rush to get me off her.

It was a nice GFE session. We had some chit chat before and after the session and she did stay 2 hours. She told me she uses a dildo when she does webcam but she does not do anal with the dildo. During a webcam session recently, a guy had asked her to put it in her ass and she said no and said she would refunded his money instead. This is definitely a girl who tries to give you your money's worth and I felt that during the session. She is a good find and I would see her again.

Some guys have asked me for the contact info for the girls that I have seen. This is my take on it. I have put in the hours to set up a good Facebook profile, find FB girls, chatted with a large number of girls, engaged in a lot of chatting to find out more about them, tried to screen out the bad ones and find the good ones, and I think my efforts have been successful at finding good girls in MDE.

Now anonymous strangers want me to give them the names of these girls that I have seen after all this effort in exchange for absolutely nothing. It just doesn't seem like a good deal to me. There is definitely plenty of downside. The girls will get busier and perhaps raise their prices. And very little upside for me as far as I can see. Now I know that some of you may say, you should share for the good of the monger community, share and share alike. Well, for me, sharing means an exchange of information and, that is not what is happening here. Very few guys here are willing to share the contact info of their best girls for the reasons that I have mentioned or they have very little to share. There is also the fact that these FB girls are semi-pros and not openly advertising as escorts similar to Seeking girls.

I have actually shared contact info for agencies and online escorts with over 30 guys in my posting for Guadalajara so I think I already done my part in giving back.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2763375]What your sharing is an eye opener, as nobody on this thread as I recall over the past five years has ever shared in such detail as to what happened to them after being drugged like you.

A heavy duty wake up call for sure. I'm assuming there was no safety box in the apartment, or if there was, it had a physical key versus being electric?

And what about your Passport, did they leave that behind? And again, thanks for sharing your story![/QUOTE]I just want to help ensure everyone is safe and this goes beyond any concerns of personal embarrassment, at least for me. The success of those that drug is based on people not reporting and the cops doing nothing. The more that this is reported, the less successful they will be. And I agree with others that the attempts will become much more prevalent in the future given the economy unless the Medellin politicians and police are forced to do something (ie be tougher on those committing these crimes). Right now it's a slap on the wrist in Colombia whereas I believe date rape / drugging is a serious felony in the US. I mean, several individuals have died from it so you could also charge with attempted murder.

Getting to your questions. There were a series of filing cabinets with locks that I used to put my computer, money, CCs, and ID in. I then put the locks in 3 different places. Since I was out for a long period of time they found two of these keys and took items. Unfortunately these two areas had most of my stuff. I also hid some money and IDs in inserts for my shoes. This they did not find and is what I used to get back on my feed. Along with help from friends in Melling.

They did take the Passport, which is a pain in the ass to replace. I needed to fly to Bogota and get an Emergency Passport with the US Embassy. While I was there I met another guy (younger kid) who had also been drugged in Medellin and doing the same. The US Embassy was relatively efficient about it. I entered the Embassy at 9:30 am and had a Passport by 2:30 pm that day and flew out late that night. The thing that was frustrating is that they didn't seem to care much that I had been the victim of a serious crime (assault and battery). I asked to speak with an official there and they said they were aware of Paul's murder, and increasing crime, but there was not much they could do and that it was entirely up to me to follow up with the Medellin Police. I was not expecting a lott of hand holding, but the US has historically given Colombia a tremendous amount of aid annually ($500M to $1B) and accepted HUGE numbers of immigrants each year. I thought we'd have more influence.