Medellin Reports

Tonight was my first night in Medellin and I just wanted to have a look around first.

I went to Mayorista about 10pm. It felt really safe and no hassles. It is a cse of finding the diamond in the rough but it was comfortable and pretty cool place to have a few beers and watch the street scene.

Then I went to this place in Centro as described below:

Calle 53 (Av. De Grieff) Carrera 53, around Bar El Faro, near Parque Barrio Metro Station, El Centro.

Artisttyp posts: 'Stand in front of the Conejitas Strip Club, facing the plaza, turn right down Calle 53 (Av. De Greiff) and walk down two blocks, there you will see a whole other street / avenue of bars / hookers standing outside. You Must Be Careful some have Fake I'd'S, Lots of Jailbait! '

That area in my opinion is DANGEROUS. I got a pretty cool cab driver and he took me to all the streets in that area and man seriously it was like entering another world. It is like Zombie dawn of the dead down there. Having said that I thought the girls there were better looking (mainly in the area described above, not the other areas) , but you would need balls of steel to go walking around there alone at midnight (I was with my taxi driver when walking around).

Just curious from the experienced guys. Am I just being paranoid or is that area actually as dangerous as it looks? Mayorista seemed fine. By the way there was no police or security presence in that Centro area either, but there was at Mayorista.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1104770]Tonight was my first night in Medellin and I just wanted to have a look around first.

I went to Mayorista about 10pm. It felt really safe and no hassles. It is a cse of finding the diamond in the rough but it was comfortable and pretty cool place to have a few beers and watch the street scene.

Then I went to this place in Centro as described below:

Calle 53 (Av. De Grieff) Carrera 53, around Bar El Faro, near Parque Barrio Metro Station, El Centro.

Artisttyp posts: 'Stand in front of the Conejitas Strip Club, facing the plaza, turn right down Calle 53 (Av. De Greiff) and walk down two blocks, there you will see a whole other street / avenue of bars / hookers standing outside. You Must Be Careful some have Fake I'd'S, Lots of Jailbait! '

That area in my opinion is DANGEROUS. I got a pretty cool cab driver and he took me to all the streets in that area and man seriously it was like entering another world. It is like Zombie dawn of the dead down there. Having said that I thought the girls there were better looking (mainly in the area described above, not the other areas) , but you would need balls of steel to go walking around there alone at midnight (I was with my taxi driver when walking around).

Just curious from the experienced guys. Am I just being paranoid or is that area actually as dangerous as it looks? Mayorista seemed fine. By the way there was no police or security presence in that Centro area either, but there was at Mayorista. [/QUOTE]Bowerboy,

Regarding the street action on 53 in Centro or Degrief area:

Do not go at night. You put yourself at unnecessary risk. I have been there at night more than a few times and the appeal diminishes quickly. Going in late afternoon to dusk is alright though.

Mayorista on the other hand is different. Have to go at night for the full flavor. Although the girls / women there in the morning and afternoon can be quite scary (LOL).

Cheers,

Cubanut

Then I went to this place in Centro as described below:

Calle 53 (Av. De Grieff) Carrera 53, around Bar El Faro, near Parque Barrio Metro Station, El Centro.

Artisttyp posts: 'Stand in front of the Conejitas Strip Club, facing the plaza, turn right down Calle 53 (Av. De Greiff) and walk down two blocks, there you will see a whole other street / avenue of bars / hookers standing outside. You Must Be Careful some have Fake I'd'S, Lots of Jailbait! '

That area in my opinion is DANGEROUS. I got a pretty cool cab driver and he took me to all the streets in that area and man seriously it was like entering another world. It is like Zombie dawn of the dead down there. Having said that I thought the girls there were better looking (mainly in the area described above, not the other areas) , but you would need balls of steel to go walking around there alone at midnight (I was with my taxi driver when walking around).

Just curious from the experienced guys. Am I just being paranoid or is that area actually as dangerous as it looks? Mayorista seemed fine. By the way there was no police or security presence in that Centro area either, but there was at Mayorista. [/QUOTE]I've only been to Medellin twice, and on the last trip in Sept. We went to this area around 7-8pm on a Wednesday. It definitely was very sketchy, and kind of sad, seeing 7 or 8 year old kids out of their minds sniffing glue listening to music over the speakers of one of the many many bars with tons of available women in. Definitely the most amount of available women in any concentrated area than any where else I have seen in Medellin, including La Mayorista.

I was with my friend and our driver and I still felt more on edge there than anywhere I have been in Medellin. Even our driver seemed a little edgy but that could have just been me. I did pull a Super hot 18 year old for 25k pesos plus another 10k for the room, but with her it seemed there was a lot of upselling and be. S. That you don't get in a casa. Nonetheless, I would go back but not by myself and even then still be more alert than usual.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1104770]Tonight was my first night in Medellin and I just wanted to have a look around first.

I went to Mayorista about 10pm. It felt really safe and no hassles. It is a cse of finding the diamond in the rough but it was comfortable and pretty cool place to have a few beers and watch the street scene.

Then I went to this place in Centro as described below:

Calle 53 (Av. De Grieff) Carrera 53, around Bar El Faro, near Parque Barrio Metro Station, El Centro.

Artisttyp posts: 'Stand in front of the Conejitas Strip Club, facing the plaza, turn right down Calle 53 (Av. De Greiff) and walk down two blocks, there you will see a whole other street / avenue of bars / hookers standing outside. You Must Be Careful some have Fake I'd'S, Lots of Jailbait! '

That area in my opinion is DANGEROUS. I got a pretty cool cab driver and he took me to all the streets in that area and man seriously it was like entering another world. It is like Zombie dawn of the dead down there. Having said that I thought the girls there were better looking (mainly in the area described above, not the other areas) , but you would need balls of steel to go walking around there alone at midnight (I was with my taxi driver when walking around).

Just curious from the experienced guys. Am I just being paranoid or is that area actually as dangerous as it looks? Mayorista seemed fine. By the way there was no police or security presence in that Centro area either, but there was at Mayorista. [/QUOTE]I've only been to Medellin twice, and on the last trip in Sept. We went to this area around 7-8pm on a Wednesday. It definitely was very sketchy, and kind of sad, seeing 7 or 8 year old kids out of their minds sniffing glue listening to music over the speakers of one of the many many bars with tons of available women in. Definitely the most amount of available women in any concentrated area than any where else I have seen in Medellin, including La Mayorista.

I was with my friend and our driver and I still felt more on edge there than anywhere I have been in Medellin. Even our driver seemed a little edgy but that could have just been me. I did pull a Super hot 18 year old for 25k pesos plus another 10k for the room, but with her it seemed there was a lot of upselling and be. S. That you don't get in a casa. Nonetheless, I would go back but not by myself and even then still be more alert than usual.

I have read a lot of reports from you nice folks here and am very interested in going to Columbia. However, I have always heard of so much violence that occurred there in the past, and was wondering if the scene is still as such? Are none Columbians, be it whites, blacks, Asians in any danger, such as kidnappings, etc?

I hope this question does not seem too naive on my part. I was interested in going to Costa Rica before, but started reading that the best girls there are often from Columbia, so more and more started hobbyists started to monger in Columbia.

Any input from any of you gentlemen is greatly appreciated as it will help me determine whether or not I should go to Columbia, Philippines, Hong Kong / Macau, etc.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1104770]. Then I went to this place in Centro as described below:

Calle 53 (Av. De Grieff) Carrera 53, around Bar El Faro, near Parque Barrio Metro Station, El Centro.

That area in my opinion is DANGEROUS. I got a pretty cool cab driver and he took me to all the streets in that area and man seriously it was like entering another world. It is like Zombie dawn of the dead down there. Having said that I thought the girls there were better looking (mainly in the area described above, not the other areas) , but you would need balls of steel to go walking around there alone at midnight (I was with my taxi driver when walking around).

Just curious from the experienced guys. Am I just being paranoid or is that area actually as dangerous as it looks? Mayorista seemed fine. By the way there was no police or security presence in that Centro area either, but there was at Mayorista. [/QUOTE]Muy peligroso (pretty dangerous) at night, just like your instinct told you.

I've had policemen tell me I should leave the area as darkness was falling.

I remember also a time I hung around a little too long in a bad area out there, I got spotted as a gringo and was starting to get surrounded by some zombie types.

A street girl I had befriended earlier, grabbed me by the hand and led me quickly to a busier and better lit area nearby to escape and catch a cab.

Tenga cuidado.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1104770]That area in my opinion is DANGEROUS. I got a pretty cool cab driver and he took me to all the streets in that area and man seriously it was like entering another world. It is like Zombie dawn of the dead down there. Having said that I thought the girls there were better looking (mainly in the area described above, not the other areas) , but you would need balls of steel to go walking around there alone at midnight (I was with my taxi driver when walking around).

Just curious from the experienced guys. Am I just being paranoid or is that area actually as dangerous as it looks? [/QUOTE]Yes it is sketchy and I do not recommend any gringo-looking type to venture around there at night. Honestly speaking, if some Mansion-types should get bored of their sanitized environment and think to have a stroll there at night, it would be a suicide.

Me, I went there often at day and night, walking around alone for hours looking for my type of girl (patience is essential in this hobby, like for hunting) , not only after dark but also till 2am.

HOWEVER: I do not look gringo, I underdress, I do not wear a watch, I keep not much money with me, I look straight, I do not get lost (I know the streets) , I keep far from groups, I know a couple of cheap "hotels" where I am safe (6k por la piesa.)

Read this old report of mine:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=931904&viewfull=1#post931904[/url]
Or better this "Night street scenes in El Centro":
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=807816&viewfull=1#post807816[/url]

Please note that when I wrote those reports it was one of my first times in Medellin. Since then, I went various times to the cheap hotels of the street under the metro. Daytime, the small kiosks under the metro are good for a beer or a fruit juice. Night time, it's better to not stop but move quickly.

Black Page the scenes you describe are spot on! That is balsy walking there at midnight. I had nightmares about the plkace last night (seriously).

Actually from a cultural perspective it is interesting to see. The contrast with El Pablado area is almost too immense to imagine. I will try the casa's there today anyway. Daytime hours!

[quote=shogun420;1104791]that area in my opinion is dangerous. i got a pretty cool cab driver and he took me to all the streets in that area and man seriously it was like entering another world.... i was with my taxi driver when walking around... just curious from the experienced guys. am i just being paranoid or is that area actually as dangerous as it looks? by the way there was no police or security presence in that centro area either. ....even our driver seemed a little edgy but that could have just been me. ...... nonetheless, i would go back but not by myself and even then still be more alert than usual.[/quote]spent a great deal of time in centro. i'm a pretty "aware" kind of guy. i'm also a big guy, middle linebacker big. not too many people mess with me. i took the public transit there, walked everywhere, alone. i found a cool bar, don't remember the name but "america" was in it. i loved the place, felt at home. was like one of those really seedy tampa strip clubs with table dances for $5. there were all kinds of girls in there, most of which in my assessment were ****. i visited all of the casas on the "list", and the ones where someone handed me cards.

all of this, i looked around, saw the glue sniffers, the beggars, and the riff raff, but no one bothered me. i loved the huge number of casas and paisas there. until.

a couple days later, i got my driver to take me back to the "americana" bar and when he pulled in front and saw the name, he peeled out and got out of there. he told me never to go back in there and how dangerous it is, how lucky i am to escape, being american and alone. he then drove the path i walked before and showed me everything i missed when i was being "aware". it was downright frighteneing.

the bottom line here is. don't do it alone. being aware is not enough, it is commonplace for them to put a "mickey" in your drink and haul you off i am told. when you are in 2's or more, it's tougher to pull that off, but as a single, you buy a drink, you pass out, you wake up bait for ransom or worse.

however, i will say, in all of my walking and mongering in centro, i never really felt unsafe and i thought i was aware. but after dark, no way in hell i'd go there.

[quote=bobsthrobbinknob;1104872]spent a great deal of time in centro. i'm a pretty "aware" kind of guy. i'm also a big guy, middle linebacker big. not too many people mess with me. [/quote]wrong approach. your size does not count. there are no fist fights. criminals use a big knife or a gun here.

[quote=bobsthrobbinknob;1104872]i took the public transit there, walked everywhere, alone. i found a cool bar, don't remember the name but "america" was in it. i loved the place, felt at home. was like one of those really seedy tampa strip clubs with table dances for $5. there were all kinds of girls in there, most of which in my assessment were ****. [/quote]i can't believe it. i never saw a single evident teen in a bar here. police is a serious thing in medellin (no irony intended). **** girls stay on the street, not in bars.

[quote=bobsthrobbinknob;1104872]being american and alone. [/quote]i tend to agree. a "gringo" is perceived not only rather negatively, on the average, but also as likely carrying substantial money in the pockets. the two circumstances make the the guy quite attractive.

[quote=bobsthrobbinknob;1104872]the bottom line here is. don't do it alone. being aware is not enough, it is commonplace for them to put a "mickey" in your drink and haul you off i am told. [/quote]as a matter of fact, in all bars of this type, the bottles have been always opened in front of me. and i keep bottles always firm in my hand, even if i go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. the first thing to do, however, is to not display you have more than 50k with you. even better, do show you have 40-50k and no more. better leave all credit cards in the hotel.

I went to the "Medellin List" section of this forum and the information on there is truly awesome. Those guys should be given lifetime free membership and a members sponsored session at the Casa of their choice. Thanks for this guys, it is truly appreciated.

I visited the casa's Geishas and New Life today using the maps provided. Geishas only had two girls but both were doable. Then I walked from there to New Life. This place had about 10 to 12 girls (at 11am) and the quality was really very good. I picked a 20 year old called Duana. She was about 5 foot 10 inches and a fantastic body. Great service, nice place, very safe and comfortable. All inclusive price of 35, 000 pesos. That is less than $20!

After this I walked all through Centro including back to the same spot I was in last night. The risk during day time hours in these areas is manageable because there are a lot of other normal people going about their business and you stand out less and would be more hassle for someone to rob or attack you. However at night ALL og the normal / good people are gone and all you have left is the human detritis. This area in day and night and very very different indeed. Nightime is more or less a suicide mission, daytime is dodgy but manageable as there are a lot of people around. Nightime there are also a lot of people around but they are ALL bad and truly they either all have nthing to lose, are on drugs or are crazy.

I think in terms of pure value and simplicity and quality of the girls then the place to go is definitely the Casa's as described in the Medellin lists. The total cost is probably cheaper even then Mayorista when you consider all cost factors (transport, drinks etc) and the quality is much higher.

If I was here on a business trip and company was paying for flights, hotel, food and expnses then I may try the high end places but otherwise the Casa's are great. It has to be said though that I am not looking for long time, GFE, or building rapport. I just want to fuck pretty girls! Sorry to be so blunt.

Hope this helps any newcomers and thanks everyone for the awesome sharing of information. I will try some other casas tomorrow and let you know any relevant findings.

[QUOTE=John Gault;1104245]I always stay in Mayorista so I never use the love hotels there. It is a big advantage to be able to take your prey to your own place. You have your own drinks, music, etc. Anyway for guys who are not staying there your report on the hotels is just amazing. Keep up the good work and I hope most of the gentlemen on this board appreciate it[/QUOTE]Sound like a nice aerea for me. I would be intrested as you said John to stay in a nice hotel there. Walking distance to take the girls in the roomand not use this louse hourly hotels.

Can you recomend anything to stay there. Girlfriendly. Clean. What would be the price?

What do do in the Medellin during the day. I like sport or pool as well. Any good recommendations?

Thank you

that was my point exactly, in most places i go, it does, but not in centro. not by a long shot.

[quote=black page;1104902]i can't believe it. i never saw a single evident teen in a bar here. police is a serious thing in medellin (no irony intended). **** girls stay on the street, not in bars.[/quote]there were, the first 2 girls that came up i immediately asked them, both said 16 but "no problema". i declined faster than i could say "no".

[quote=black page;1104902]as a matter of fact, in all bars of this type, the bottles have been always opened in front of me. and i keep bottles always firm in my hand, even if i go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. the first thing to do, however, is to not display you have more than 50k with you. even better, do show you have 40-50k and no more. better leave all credit cards in the hotel.[/quote]same kind of mentality as a casino, only have on you what you are willing to lose.

Due to the still working status of my marriage, when I go to MDE, I live in El Centro. Before we got back I did not worry about anything and nothing happended to me.

Now, I have more concerns but I am still staying in the same area and my biggest concern is my wife finding me hitting one of the locals.

I am not saying it is dangerous but me, not being a middle linebacker, has felt OK all the time. I do not make the midnight walks I used to and even my wife gets nervous about going to ATMs but I guess I have been lucky (and I hope this pattern will continue).

Be save and be careful but remember this, even the locals are worried now so do not get yourself into anything you might not be able to get out of. Consider not drinking too much and keep alert of your area at all times.

[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob; 1104872]Spent a great deal of time in CENTRO.

For first timers, Frank Casio's "My Place" would be better. Upon second time, you will consider which you will like, Frank's aperment setting or a private room in a hotel.

[QUOTE=Unlimited; 1104977]Sound like a nice aerea for me. I would be intrested as you said John to stay in a nice hotel there. Walking distance to take the girls in the roomand not use this louse hourly hotels.

Can you recomend anything to stay there. Girlfriendly. Clean. What would be the price?

What do do in the Medellin during the day. I like sport or pool as well. Any good recommendations?

Thank you[/QUOTE]