[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970499]And here a prime example of the opposite, generated some minutes ago. Good luck I've started to request a selfie without filter before confirming the booking.[/QUOTE]That is not even the same person.
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[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970499]And here a prime example of the opposite, generated some minutes ago. Good luck I've started to request a selfie without filter before confirming the booking.[/QUOTE]That is not even the same person.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970273]I don't venture to Pattaya, but I thought the rate there was still 1000? Would have to check some of Mr. E's recent reports to verify what the baseline is.
Many here in Bangkok have quoted me 2,000 or even 3,000 the past week (one even asked for 8,000 some days ago), but most come down to 1500 quickly enough, though not all. [/QUOTE]There is no baseline. Some guys like XXL will hit a girl up and immediately offer 2000. Some guys will ask how much and consider that some type of going rate. Like you, I will ask them how much and talk them down. In Pattaya I pay 1200 for overnight. I have things to do during the day, but before bed around 10 pm I may get a chick to come stay over until I am ready to leave at 8 or 9 in the morning. I rarely do ST, but I do not mind giving them 1000 for ST the times that I do.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2970460]How about "I give you tip; no condom." Or accept the girl's position on barebacking and go with the flow. For example, I never negotiate Bareback anywhere and yet approximately 25% of my Thai hooker pickups (Go Go girls and FL's) leads to BBFS on the 1st night with the percentages going up significantly on repeat visits. This is my experience in LOS for over 20 years. If you don't like these stats try a different country. As I am sure you know, Thailand has neighbors where the bareback percentages are much higher.[/QUOTE]My holidays are usually only two weeks, occasionally three, so I can only fuck a limited amount of girls, with only a few repeats (if any). If I would go with the flow and get the same results as you do, it would mean I do not get BBFS with every girl, every time. And that is unacceptable, because I simply hate condoms and cannot keep it up and cum when I use them. So that's why I always negotiate BBFS beforehand.
In countries like Cambodia, Laos, and the Philippines, I sometimes take the risk and do not negotiate it beforehand. But I haven't been there for a long time.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970499]And here a prime example of the opposite, generated some minutes ago. Good luck I've started to request a selfie without filter before confirming the booking.[/QUOTE]Its bad enough when that busty hardbody tosses her tits on the chair with her bra, I really do not favour selecting my smash on line.
[QUOTE=Sma202;2970650]I've been suggested this place for this very reason. Do they let you take vids?[/QUOTE]There's no place that advertises "video included". You have to ask the woman and offer her whatever extra she wants for it.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2970882]Its bad enough when that busty hardbody tosses her tits on the chair with her bra, I really do not favour selecting my smash on line.[/QUOTE]I don't know why, but I've become too lazy to go out in the evening, wandering from place to place looking. I will drop by a place or two on the way to / from my other daily activities (gym, dinner), but in the evening I much prefer they come to me.
In fact, one just left. Her photo looked really good. Asked her to send a selfie no filter. Selfie looked not really good, but still good. Showed up wearing a mask, which is a pretty big red flag these days, but thought maybe the gal was shy. Asked her to take off the mask while going up in the elevator, after the other passengers had exited. Didn't look like anyone I'd like to fuck. Showed her the photo and said she did not look like photo. She blah-blah-blah and demanded 1000 to go. Told her to fuck off and took her down in the elevator.
Next time I'll verify and abort the ordeal downstairs before going up in the elevator with her. Initially wanted to do that when I saw the mask, but so many people milling around I felt a bit shy. Next time though.
Only reason I can think of for why these disgusting women are pulling this shit is that there are guys who pay them "enough" to leave, after figuring out they are about to get scammed, making it worth it for them. If nobody were paying them, they'd stop that shit soon enough. Maybe guys think throwing 500 baht at them is worth it to avoid a spectacle, but that's more than enough money to make it worthwhile for them to continue doing this annoying shit.
On a more positive note, my Thai massage earlier today ended better. After sucking my dick till completion, she for some reason continued sucking. Last night I, through no fault of my own, ended up having two girls coming, one after the other. One at 00:30 (a repeat with Miss 172 cm who I posted a photo of earlier), and the other one, my first african girl. A 22 year old who arrived at 01:30, and who looked so hooish, with a neon-green dress and high heels, that I felt slightly embarrassed as she stalked past the security guards and towards me. What would my mother think?
She said it was her third day in Thailand, from Kenya, and was a good fuck with a pleasant enough personality. Anyway, as the massage woman today, a plump woman around 30, chosen for her cute face and pleasant demeanor, was continuing sucking my dick, I pondered. Could it be my balls were so empty from last night's double course that it was possible she had not noticed I was done? Could it be so? No, surely not, but for some reason she was still sucking my dick.
I was laying there thinking, "why is she still sucking my dick, and what happened to my semen?" After she had continued sucking for a few minutes more, and my brain had failed to come up with any good answer as to why, I, and may god forgive me, in the end I had to stop her, as I'm a bit sensitive after finishing. Apparently she also swallowed my little gift, whatever there was, which is not a frequent occurrence for me with p4p girls.
I then paid her the agreed 1000, plus an extra 100 as tip for the massage when exiting downstairs.
Shop was on soi 22 should anyone care. One of the 3-4 shops directly after the Marriot hotel, though I don't remember the name. As far as I am concerned, this, and to a much lesser extent soi 33, are the only sois on Sukhumvit where you can with some probability find decent looking girls / woman in some regular massage shops sitting outside, so you can see and choose. Have to walk the whole stretch up and back sometimes though.
Miss Africa:
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970969]Last night I, through no fault of my own, ended up having two girls coming, one after the other. One at 00:30 (a repeat with Miss 172 cm who I posted a photo of earlier), and the other one, my first african girl. A 22 year old who arrived at 01:30, and who looked so hooish, with a neon-green dress and high heels, that I felt slightly embarrassed as she stalked past the security guards and towards me. What would my mother think?[/QUOTE]They say that men like women who look like their mother, so I think she would be thrilled LOL.
Date & time of session: December 2024.
Location: Mango Massage (Sukhumvit 24).
Name: Yumi.
Age: 21.
Face: 3. 5/5 (if you like young slim girls with Jap / Korea style it may be 4-5).
Body: 4/5 (slim and young).
Skill: 1/5 (she can do a bit of French Kiss but very short and then move her head away. Can actually repeat the process but feels very forced. BBBJ was nice but it lasted less than 30 secs before she reached for a condom).
Service: 1/5 (she tried to waste as much time as possible with chitchat).
GFE: 3/5 (She try to be funny and talk but more in a friend style than GF and mostly to cut off as much time as possible).
PSE: 1/5.
Price & Session Length: 2200 b 1 hour.
Repeat: No.
To give some context to the mostly negative marks, my main preferences are young & very slim girls who also can do deep tongue kissing for most of the time during the session. BBBJ with CIM is a second option if the kissing isn't that good (I usually prefer cum while kissing).
Other than that, I don't care too much about the sex itself and keep it kinda short at the end of the session after 30+ minutes of foreplay.
Yumi allow for tongue kissing but not really that deep or into it. She try to move away after just few seconds. After a couple of times it feels too much forced to be any pleasant for me.
BBBJ was nice for the 30 secs or so it lasted before she reached for a condom. I tried to extend it but after another 30 secs or so she went for a condom again.
I tried to lick her pussy but she didn't allow it (I didn't really force it anyway).
The sex itself was actually decent, she didn't complain or hurried me up (but I lose interest in plain sex after changing 2-3 positions if the girl isn't into kissing, so I don't think it was more than 15 mins). She looks nice with her legs in the air.
In the end, it may be worth it if you don't care about any kind of foreplay and kissing and you just want sex with a young slim cute looking girl.
That said, as she wastes a lot of time at least go for the 40 mins option. (in that case maybe she will not waste too much time).
I got fed up with mediocre girls asking for 3000 Baht in Sukhumvit. It took a few days to work out a strategy that would work for me. Compared to the girls in Laos, none of the girls on offer were worth 1000. Of course, I paid more than I wanted to because I was feeling desperate and having a GF hotel in the heart of the action helped.
Sometimes sex is about doing something different or risky. And whilst walking around near the Grand Palace, I found myself on Burana Sat Road, the opportunity presented itself nicely. Lots of ordinary ladies, ages 20 through to 60, all shapes and sizes. Most were really not worth it. The 35 year old with only one eye however was not bad looking (as long as kept that eye closed! Not overweight and had good boobs. Her staring price was 400 Baht and it didn't see right to barter her down. The room was 100 Baht. So at £12 was my cheapest punt. The sex was good BBBJ, BBFS with CIP, BB anal and DFK- and filming. I want back the next day to find her but she was probably still spending my 400 Baht!
Saw several other girls in the same area, going up to 600 Baht with BB and filming. I turned down one really rough sleeper who wanted 300 Baht. A man has to have standards.
On my last night I paid 2000 Baht for a threesome with 2 ordinary girls outside Nana Plaza. Covered but still great fun with lots of videoing and girl on girl action. Not something that I am likely to get at home.
I've been in BKK for work and decided to try 3 new girls (technically 4). This was my first time with any working girls, let alone in Thailand. I unfortunately didn't do any research as I guess I'm stupid.
Girl 1: I got her off of an ad on Massage Republic and paid 13 k.
Girl 2 (my fav): I was walking by a massage parlor and just saw her and thought she was hot so I went for it. This was by far the cheapest at 3 k.
Girl 3 (and 4 because it was a duo): I was walking and this taxi driver approached me and showed me a bunch of ladies. He drove me to this hotel and I chose 2 girls and they bathed and then some. This costed me like 18 k total.
I feel like I got ripped off the first and 3rd time. Possibly even the 2nd time. I by far enjoyed the 2nd one the most but it's consistent as every time I walk by I swear I see different girls.
[QUOTE=Ksalter123;2971223]I've been in BKK for work and decided to try 3 new girls (technically 4). This was my first time with any working girls, let alone in Thailand. I unfortunately didn't do any research as I guess I'm stupid.
Girl 1: I got her off of an ad on Massage Republic and paid 13 k.
Girl 2 (my fav): I was walking by a massage parlor and just saw her and thought she was hot so I went for it. This was by far the cheapest at 3 k.
Girl 3 (and 4 because it was a duo): I was walking and this taxi driver approached me and showed me a bunch of ladies. He drove me to this hotel and I chose 2 girls and they bathed and then some. This costed me like 18 k total.
I feel like I got ripped off the first and 3rd time. Possibly even the 2nd time. I by far enjoyed the 2nd one the most but it's consistent as every time I walk by I swear I see different girls.[/QUOTE]2) sounds like a normal massage shop price for one of the more expensive options. Massage shops have fixed prices and except some girls may give so poor service it may seem like a rip-off sometimes, going there is mostly safe as far as getting ripped of is concerned.
For both 1) and 3) you probably vastly overpaid, unless the taxi driver took you to one of the really posh places that do exist here, in which case it could cost something like that, yes. You'd notice if it was, because you'd think "wow, this place is really posh. Completely different from 2)". Better read this forum better first next time, to get an estimate over what you should pay.
I have been asking TF girls for their LineIDs in order to contact them when I get to BKK in January. However, when I go to LineID, go to Add friends, click on Search and type in the girls LineID, I get a message that says "User not found. ".
Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution?
THANKS.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2971281]I have been asking TF girls for their LineIDs in order to contact them when I get to BKK in January. However, when I go to LineID, go to Add friends, click on Search and type in the girls LineID, I get a message that says "User not found. ".
Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution?
THANKS.[/QUOTE]This has happened with multiple LineIDs (I am typing in the correct LineID! But QR codes work fine.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2971281]I have been asking TF girls for their LineIDs in order to contact them when I get to BKK in January. However, when I go to LineID, go to Add friends, click on Search and type in the girls LineID, I get a message that says "User not found. ".
Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution?
THANKS.[/QUOTE]If the girl gives you a number, make sure you search phone number and not line ID.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2971269]2) sounds like a normal massage shop price for one of the more expensive options. Massage shops have fixed prices and except some girls may give so poor service it may seem like a rip-off sometimes, going there is mostly safe as far as getting ripped of is concerned.
For both 1) and 3) you probably vastly overpaid, unless the taxi driver took you to one of the really posh places that do exist here, in which case it could cost something like that, yes. You'd notice if it was, because you'd think "wow, this place is really posh. Completely different from 2)". Better read this forum better first next time, to get an estimate over what you should pay.[/QUOTE]Are you taking advice from EverythingThai. Hahaha. Hahaha.
Are you not reading posts on pricing. I don't go to Republic and I'm sure 13 k is over the Top.
Are you not weary of Taxi and Touts?
Are you Indian. Hahaha.