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[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2971281]I have been asking TF girls for their LineIDs in order to contact them when I get to BKK in January. However, when I go to LineID, go to Add friends, click on Search and type in the girls LineID, I get a message that says "User not found. ".
Does anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's a known problem. See some posts of December 17 in the General Reports thread.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2971305]Yes, it's a known problem. See some posts of December 17 in the General Reports thread.[/QUOTE]They are not giving you their valid ID.
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[QUOTE=TConor;2971306]They are not giving you their valid ID.[/QUOTE]Well, that might happen occasionally, but when the same girl sends me her QR code, I can add her.
[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971166]I got fed up with mediocre girls asking for 3000 Baht in Sukhumvit. It took a few days to work out a strategy that would work for me. Compared to the girls in Laos, none of the girls on offer were worth 1000. Of course, I paid more than I wanted to because I was feeling desperate and having a GF hotel in the heart of the action helped.
Sometimes sex is about doing something different or risky. And whilst walking around near the Grand Palace, I found myself on Burana Sat Road, the opportunity presented itself nicely. Lots of ordinary ladies, ages 20 through to 60, all shapes and sizes. Most were really not worth it. The 35 year old with only one eye however was not bad looking (as long as kept that eye closed! Not overweight and had good boobs. Her staring price was 400 Baht and it didn't see right to barter her down. The room was 100 Baht. So at 12 was my cheapest punt. The sex was good BBBJ, BBFS with CIP, BB anal and DFK- and filming. I want back the next day to find her but she was probably still spending my 400 Baht!
Saw several other girls in the same area, going up to 600 Baht with BB and filming. I turned down one really rough sleeper who wanted 300 Baht. A man has to have standards.
On my last night I paid 2000 Baht for a threesome with 2 ordinary girls outside Nana Plaza. Covered but still great fun with lots of videoing and girl on girl action. Not something that I am likely to get at home.[/QUOTE]The last time I picked up a girl in that Burana Sat Road area you reported on here, near Khaosan Road too, was about 10 years ago when I lived in the general area for a while. You're right, there are all shapes, sizes and ages available, most really not worth it.
However, I would occasionally walk through that area back then and I did find a cute 19 year old gem there one afternoon.
She also quoted 400 Baht. Without flinching and, like you, I didn't feel right about negotiating her down from that, I agreed to that amount. However, I stipulated then and there it must be BBFSCIP, Finish Inside and include DFK. She lit up and agreed as though that 400 Baht deal was her best score of the month! Sweet girl. Very nice and satisfying session.
And, just like today for you, the Short Time room she took me to 10 years ago was 100 Baht! But it was without doubt the most rundown little shithole room I have ever successfully finished a fuck in.
So there has been zero inflation for the deed and the room in that area for at least 10 years. Good to know. However, it doesn't sound like we are exactly comparing apples to apples in terms of the age and attractiveness of the lady. But who knows, give or take a couple of years she claimed, maybe it was the same lady!
[QUOTE=StevieJ1;2971166]I got fed up with mediocre girls asking for 3000 Baht in Sukhumvit. It took a few days to work out a strategy that would work for me. Compared to the girls in Laos, none of the girls on offer were worth 1000. Of course, I paid more than I wanted to because I was feeling desperate and having a GF hotel in the heart of the action helped.
Sometimes sex is about doing something different or risky. And whilst walking around near the Grand Palace, I found myself on Burana Sat Road, the opportunity presented itself nicely. Lots of ordinary ladies, ages 20 through to 60, all shapes and sizes. Most were really not worth it. The 35 year old with only one eye however was not bad looking (as long as kept that eye closed! Not overweight and had good boobs. Her staring price was 400 Baht and it didn't see right to barter her down. The room was 100 Baht. So at 12 was my cheapest punt. The sex was good BBBJ, BBFS with CIP, BB anal and DFK- and filming. I want back the next day to find her but she was probably still spending my 400 Baht!
Saw several other girls in the same area, going up to 600 Baht with BB and filming. I turned down one really rough sleeper who wanted 300 Baht. A man has to have standards.
On my last night I paid 2000 Baht for a threesome with 2 ordinary girls outside Nana Plaza. Covered but still great fun with lots of videoing and girl on girl action. Not something that I am likely to get at home.[/QUOTE]Its been a long time since we had a report on Burana Sat. I'm glad to see its still there.
[QUOTE=Ksalter123;2971223]I've been in BKK for work and decided to try 3 new girls (technically 4). This was my first time with any working girls, let alone in Thailand. I unfortunately didn't do any research as I guess I'm stupid.
Girl 1: I got her off of an ad on Massage Republic and paid 13 k.
Girl 2 (my fav): I was walking by a massage parlor and just saw her and thought she was hot so I went for it. This was by far the cheapest at 3 k.
Girl 3 (and 4 because it was a duo): I was walking and this taxi driver approached me and showed me a bunch of ladies. He drove me to this hotel and I chose 2 girls and they bathed and then some. This costed me like 18 k total.
I feel like I got ripped off the first and 3rd time. Possibly even the 2nd time. I by far enjoyed the 2nd one the most but it's consistent as every time I walk by I swear I see different girls.[/QUOTE]You did not RTFF enough.
[QUOTE=Ksalter123;2971223]I've been in BKK for work and decided to try 3 new girls (technically 4). This was my first time with any working girls, let alone in Thailand. I unfortunately didn't do any research as I guess I'm stupid.
Girl 1: I got her off of an ad on Massage Republic and paid 13 k.
Girl 2 (my fav): I was walking by a massage parlor and just saw her and thought she was hot so I went for it. This was by far the cheapest at 3 k.
Girl 3 (and 4 because it was a duo): I was walking and this taxi driver approached me and showed me a bunch of ladies. He drove me to this hotel and I chose 2 girls and they bathed and then some. This costed me like 18 k total.
I feel like I got ripped off the first and 3rd time. Possibly even the 2nd time. I by far enjoyed the 2nd one the most but it's consistent as every time I walk by I swear I see different girls.[/QUOTE]OF COURSE you overpaid! OMG why would you even have to ask? Only a complete idiot pays those kinds of prices.
[QUOTE=Ksalter123;2971223]I've been in BKK for work and decided to try 3 new girls (technically 4). This was my first time with any working girls, let alone in Thailand. I unfortunately didn't do any research as I guess I'm stupid.
Girl 1: I got her off of an ad on Massage Republic and paid 13 k.
Girl 2 (my fav): I was walking by a massage parlor and just saw her and thought she was hot so I went for it. This was by far the cheapest at 3 k.
Girl 3 (and 4 because it was a duo): I was walking and this taxi driver approached me and showed me a bunch of ladies. He drove me to this hotel and I chose 2 girls and they bathed and then some. This costed me like 18 k total.
I feel like I got ripped off the first and 3rd time. Possibly even the 2nd time. I by far enjoyed the 2nd one the most but it's consistent as every time I walk by I swear I see different girls.[/QUOTE]In my experience, you definitely overpaid. I had good luck near the Phrom Phong BTS stop in front of Emporium. On Soi 22 on Sukhumvit Road, there's an alley filled with massage places. When I was there a couple of years ago, it was 2500 baht for MSOG for the hour. DATY, FS, DFK, etc. I did see a Filipina named Cristina from Massage Republic for 4 k. She had natural DDs. There are also some massage places on the other side of Sukhumvit Road near Emporium, though their names escape me. You should be able to have a good time for no more than 4 k baht per hour.
Lurked for a bit here to learn at least some of the BKK ropes. Much appreciated.
Trip was a last minute 3-day add-on to a week in Hanoi. Stayed at the NH Sukhumvit. Nice hotel. Girl friendly, but they keep the ID of the girl while she's in the room.
I hired tour guides for cultural and food tourism. FYI it's not possible to get the smell of curry crab off your fingers with anything less caustic than sulfuric acid. Lemon juice kinda works. All of the Thai street food and market food was fantastic and very inexpensive. I was expecting to pay more due to it being high season, but food cost was reasonable. The Ramen near Snow White massage was mediocre. Also, muy Thai fights are a lot of fun. Put that on your dance card.
First night after a food tour I went to Nana Plaza for the experience. Wasn't expecting to bar fine a girls, but I got there just after midnight and the mamasan was a matchmaker. 1. 0 bar fine and 2. 0ST. I don't recall the girl's name, but she was cute and willing, so off we went. BBBJ and BBFSCIP. Covers weren't discussed and I was sauced enough to let the little head make that call. Fun time.
Night 2 was Snow White. Dream was in the lineup. Cute girl (much prettier in person) with massive heavy bags. Started with the shower and blue toast. Decent makeout to begin but FK was limited. Massage was practically non existent and she started a very nice 10 minute or so BBBJ. Cover went on and she climbed on top. CG, RCG and she was flagging after about 5 minutes. I prefer to drive anyway so we switched and I played with those beautiful milkers in mish for a while. She must have enjoyed it because the kisses got much more involved and she made some interesting noises. Finished with CIM and went back in the shower together. Tried to repeat the next night but she was gone when I asked. 2. 3 for 90 minutes and 0. 4 tip.
Final night didn't pan out, but fun was had. Met the most beautiful woman I'd seen in BKK at a bar I can't remember the name of. Probably on Soi 6. No makeup and drop dead gorgeous. Talked to her for an hour and bought some lady drinks for her. Great conversation. Was about to enquire with the mamasan about bar fine and thought to ask if she was a ladyboy. Turned out she was. I found out right then just how hetero I am LOL. I laughed about it, she tried to close the deal. She wasn't successful, but I had a great time sitting and talking and I got a pretty good story out of it.
That's my report. Again, thanks gents for the tips. Would have been (more) lost without why'all.
You guys do realize KSalt's post was a troll post, right?
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In fact, one just left. Her photo looked really good. Asked her to send a selfie no filter. Selfie looked not really good, but still good. Showed up wearing a mask, which is a pretty big red flag these days, but thought maybe the gal was shy. Asked her to take off the mask while going up in the elevator, after the other passengers had exited. Didn't look like anyone I'd like to fuck. Showed her the photo and said she did not look like photo. She blah-blah-blah and demanded 1000 to go. Told her to fuck off and took her down in the elevator.
Next time I'll verify and abort the ordeal downstairs before going up in the elevator with her. Initially wanted to do that when I saw the mask, but so many people milling around I felt a bit shy. Next time though.
[/QUOTE]Based on another experience that fortunately did not go further than my phone, I'm thinking this is, at least in some cases, a bit more organized than just a random women photoshopping their photos, which is what I thought at first.
I think what's happening, at least in some cases, is that there are some scumbags that advertises photos of some decent looking women (nothing spectacular, just an average 7 or at best a weak 8), and then sends some random hag off to meet you at the agreed on place (your hotel / condo). At that time, depending on how sex-starved you are, you might, I assume, bang her anyway, or if you reject her, she will demand a hefty sum to leave. In my case, I had offered my usual 1500, which was accepted immediately or almost so (I'm not going to spend time more than 2-3 the messages to discuss the price. If they don't like my offer, better just move to the next one), and she demanded 1000 to leave.
I imagine the idea is that many guys will pay her the 1000 to leave rather than risk some spectacle, and then the scumbags organizing this will send her off to the next sucker.
In my one experience where I met her I would not say she was a complete leper, but rather than the expected 7, it was something I'd rate as 3. I was not even 100% sure it was not a ladyboy before she took of her mask, and when I asked for her ID, she mumbled something about being from Vietnam, and therefore did not have ID. She also insisted it was her photo that I showed her on the phone, "but maybe photoshop. I don't know". I'd not say conclusively it was not her, as I guess some of these annoying filters could make me look like a young Cindy Crawford, but as far I'm concerned it might as well have been a completely different person.
Probably the only way to avoid this, if you are vary of the confrontation, is to insist on a video call, though who knows how long it will be till the filters are good enough to fake that too (if not already).
I've had two similar experiences during my two weeks so far actually. One was the night I arrived, where it was indeed the same person, but via some filter her weight had been reduced by at least 30 kg. She said in her message before coming over that she was chubby, but the person who arrived looked like she had swallowed the chubby girl whole. I was not even sure if we would be able to both travel up in the same elevator without setting of some weight alarm. Too add further to my embarrassment, the "maid" who had just let me in to my airbnb was still downstairs, sitting on the sofa, but politely looking the other way as I welcomed this buffalo.
Her face was somewhat cute though, so I decided to just fuck her face till I came. I'm guessing she is used to it, as she took it well, gagging and gasping for air until I came deep down her throat and paid her the agreed 1500. Actually she took it so well that sometimes I wonder if I should repeat, as I kind of have a sick fetish, or something, for that.
That one reminded me of a normal girl who I met up north in Thailand once when I was young and handsome. I pulled up on my motorbike at some place near her place, and saw a rather large creature pull up on her motorbike, gesturing for me to follow her without getting of her bike. Pondered for a few seconds what to do, but ended up following her out of politeness. She was also 30 kg overweight I saw once she got of her bike, but followed her in to her room anyway, thinking I'll get a blowjob or something, then leave. Some guys standing outside her building looking at me a bit confused as I followed this elephant of a girl, no doubt thinking farang are crazy.
Well, after I came in her mouth and she swallowed it all I felt kind of bad about just leaving, so I, ugh, fucked her too. She contacted me a few times after that for a repeat, but I told her politely that I only did one night stands "to avoid any feelings" (lol), so could not. Not my proudest moment, but at least that time all my sex was still free without having to work much for it.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2963030]Below, I'll share some proven tips that have worked for me over the years. While no method is foolproof, these approaches can significantly improve your chances of achieving a mutually enjoyable encounter. [/QUOTE]I find it amusing that the guide can be basically summarized as "act like a decent human being". Who would've thought that treating a girl like a person–and not an object–would lead to higher quality interactions.
[QUOTE=TConor;2971306]They are not giving you their valid ID.[/QUOTE]TConor, you apparently did not read my post carefully. Your insulting reply to our comrade who paid top dollar for mediocre service makes me wonder why you bother to comment at all. These problems with Line occurred with multiple girls (about 10) and when the girl gave me a QR code, there was no problem. I have not tried asking for line numbers.
I am not alone with this type of problem, but the fix is to remove Line from my cell phone, come up with a new LineID name and reinstall the app. By doing that, I would lose all of my contacts that are currently in Line. That seems to be my only option to fix the problem. It is a shame the Thai girls haven't learned about WhatsApp, as that app is much more intuitive and reliable.
My response to Ksalter123's experience being price gouged is that he made very typical newbie mistakes. He is not just new to Bangkok, but new to mongering. Yes, he should have read the forum more carefully, but I remember some of the dumb shit I did when I was a newbie, including leaving $1000 USD out on a table when I left my Airbnb in Sto Domingo to go work out at a nearby gym. She was so GFE in bed, that I forgot that she wasn't actually my girlfriend. I could recount several other dumb errors I have made with young pretty girls, but overall I have still had a wonderful time of it. I doubt anything I ever did in the area of overpaying contributed to girl inflation.
Where are they now? I have memories of some Soi Cowboy bar personalities from decades ago. Just wondering if anybody knows their current station in life and what they might be doing these days. In no particular order:
Casey / Kacy / KC. Papasan / manager at Midnight after the upstairs part of the bar replaced the old Top Cat bar.
Sahn. Simultaneously, the owner of Toy Bar, Fanny Bar, Moonshine Joint, and Jungle Jim's. I first met her when she was 15 years old and working at the Toy Bar. No, she wasn't available for take out. The owner was very protective of her. The owner had previously owned a bar at Nana Plaza which later became Lucky Luke's.and, after selling the Toy Bar, opened another one off Soi 22 (Tina Bar).
"Hans", manager (and maybe a part owner) of Tilac when it was a DEA agent hangout. Every night, Hans would be sitting at the end of the bar along with "patrons" enjoying their customary seats that had their names fixed with small brass / bronze plates that noted that those four seats were "reserved".
Cactus John. The papasan / manager of Cactus Bar; an affable and interesting dude who, in my opinion, had the worst taste in music imaginable (LOL). He was a righteously degenerate and fun-loving guy who might've had the biggest drink tab every night if he didn't enjoy his position. 20-baht table dances were probably introduced by John, that featured bottomless dancers moving table-to-table and offering up "tacos" for those who were hungry. LOL (Even if you didn't eat them, you were able to inspect them from inches away from your nose.).
Any updates on the foregoing?
Sam.