Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2826064]How does a chick go from prostitute to hardened prostitute? Is there an amount of time that she needs to put in? Are there certain skills that need to be learned before crossing the line from one to the other?

Where are these high-end 18 year old fresh cuties? News Flash: There are not any! You seriously think that an 18 year old has learned enough personality-wise from 0-18 to be able to relate to and entertain what are mostly older men? These so-called high end chicks are ones that have been at it a while. Whether they are hardened or not I guess would be left up to individual interpretation, but they damn sure are not new to the game or fresh 18 year old cuties.[/QUOTE]You missed my point. Nowadays a young girl who stands out can easily get into high end market without having to work the streets, casas and clubs and fucking for 50 k pesos. You are underestimating the power of internet and social media. Latinas start sex life very early, 14-16, and by the age of 18 she should normally have at least 2 years of non-p4 p experience with multiple BFs, which is more than enough to entertain a gringo sexually. By the age of 18 she could easily learn conversational English, on her own or taking classes, if she has a desire to learn. I agree that 18 yr old girl might be lacking some education, overall life experience, etc but they learn fast when they find the right gringo or a few gringos who can show them the world. By the age of 20, some girls have already been to countries and places that some mongers have never been to or even can't afford. At the age of 18 most of us, mongers, lived in a mom's basement or college dorm, never had been abroad, never had stayed at a luxury hotel and dined at a fine dining restaurant. The girls I'm talking about can experience all of the above early in their lives.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2826147]You missed my point. Nowadays a young girl who stands out can easily get into high end market without having to work the streets, casas and clubs and fucking for 50 k pesos. You are underestimating the power of internet and social media. Latinas start sex life very early, 14-16, and by the age of 18 she should normally have at least 2 years of non-p4 p experience with multiple BFs, which is more than enough to entertain a gringo sexually.[/QUOTE]With multiple boyfriends who are kids of the same age, not grown folks that have been out in the world and paying bills. Chick I talked about earlier has an 18 year old daughter. She looked like a total kid to me. I could not even believe she was 18. She put her little makeup on looking like a kid who had been playing in her mom's makeup. Her boyfriend came over and I gave them money to go out. I saw nothing sexual at all in this 18 year old, but she was very pretty. Guess I am just not into chicks just because they are legal. I am into grown women. Nope. Not one of these guys that have to look at the ID to be sure.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2826147]You missed my point. Nowadays a young girl who stands out can easily get into high end market without having to work the streets, casas and clubs and fucking for 50 k pesos. You are underestimating the power of internet and social media. Latinas start sex life very early, 14-16, and by the age of 18 she should normally have at least 2 years of non-p4 p experience with multiple BFs, which is more than enough to entertain a gringo sexually. By the age of 18 she could easily learn conversational English, on her own or taking classes, if she has a desire to learn. I agree that 18 yr old girl might be lacking some education, overall life experience, etc but they learn fast when they find the right gringo or a few gringos who can show them the world. By the age of 20, some girls have already been to countries and places that some mongers have never been to or even can't afford. At the age of 18 most of us, mongers, lived in a mom's basement or college dorm, never had been abroad, never had stayed at a luxury hotel and dined at a fine dining restaurant. The girls I'm talking about can experience all of the above early in their lives.[/QUOTE]MiamiBoy, this one of your best post ever, this is what these guys just do not get, the internet has changed everything. Example, 2 models I was dating during Covid in MTY, both took off for Europe as soon as flying restrictions were lifted. One is back in MTY, the other is traveling the world.

You can get lucky for a night, but especially if you are in the destinations where there is a lot of sex tourists, it is almost impossible to pick up anything above 7. 5 cheap, it just does not happen. Yes, these guys are lying there asses off.

Last week my yearly cupid membership expired. I just received an email saying they tried to automatically renew my membership, but the payment failed. No actually I turned the automatic renewal off a long time ago. They also said they did me a favor and left the same order in and I could get it for the same price if I act now and put in a new payment method.

So I looked at the price of my same gold membership. It is $150 for the year. Funny I have been a member for 18 years and do not ever remember paying that much before. Being the smart guy thay I am, I decide let me try to make a new account to see how much it is. Lo and behold, since I am currently in Colombia it gives me the Colombia prices. Making a new account from Colombia I will now pay 300,000 pesos for 1 year or $72. That is less than half I will pay for being a stupid gringo.

And you guys have the nerve to believe that because chicks are charging you 500,000 pesos that they charge everyone that and will not fuck a local guy for less. You keep dreaming. Price discrimination is real. But I guess my $150 gold membership is better, higher quality, and more in demand than my $72 gold membership. Pussy is pussy and gold membership is gold membership!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2826133]I fucked a few average chicks years ago and have been fucking 7's and above ever since.[/QUOTE]Based on what you wrote, my suggestion is to be more relaistic. Forget about the girls that exist only in your fantasies and that will only bring you frustration. Focus on the core values of your past. Average chicas.

8/9/10's. Jesus, most USAns have had sex with more aliens.

[QUOTE=Combo;2826139]I've dated lots of Latinas in the US over the years. Most told me similar stories - sex initiated by uncles and fathers when they were quite young. Pretty disturbing.[/QUOTE]Maybe its bcos of simps like MB pushing the prices up. The locals can't afford it so they have to FK their own.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2826147]You missed my point. Nowadays a young girl who stands out can easily get into high end market without having to work the streets, casas and clubs and fucking for 50 k pesos. You are underestimating the power of internet and social media. Latinas start sex life very early, 14-16, and by the age of 18 she should normally have at least 2 years of non-p4 p experience with multiple BFs, which is more than enough to entertain a gringo sexually. By the age of 18 she could easily learn conversational English, on her own or taking classes, if she has a desire to learn. I agree that 18 yr old girl might be lacking some education, overall life experience, etc but they learn fast when they find the right gringo or a few gringos who can show them the world. By the age of 20, some girls have already been to countries and places that some mongers have never been to or even can't afford. At the age of 18 most of us, mongers, lived in a mom's basement or college dorm, never had been abroad, never had stayed at a luxury hotel and dined at a fine dining restaurant. The girls I'm talking about can experience all of the above early in their lives.[/QUOTE]Yea it's really common sense. These girls all have the most up to date iPhones luxury items make up nails hair perfumes. All very expensive.

It's the way the world works. Man's got to bust his ass to buy the yacht while the girl simply waits for a dm on Instagram.

Guys bring up local rates and income etc etc.

The average monthly income in the USA is 4000 usd more or less.

Most sex workers strippers etc make that in a week.

So why is it any different in Colombia??

If the average salary in medellin is 3-4 million pesos there are plenty of girls who make that in a week. I'm not saying they average this but they have had plenty of weeks where they made it.

Just because you don't hang around this social circle doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Who cares what the locals pay? Cause these girls aren't targeting the locals. Who pays 300 usd per night for a hotel in Colombia? Only the gringos. Look on hotel Charlees website and see how much a room there is. But it's in Colombia right??

Too many of you guys are set in your ways and don't want to come out of your shell.

I have a fake IG acct that follows over 200 of these hookers. They're all being flown everywhere eating in the best restaurants etc.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2826133]I fucked a few average chicks years ago and have been fucking 7's and above ever since, dumbass. BTW, the 1-10 scale is not mine, I did not invent it, this scale is universally accepted and used across the globe. But if you want to reinvent the wheel feel free to do so. 1 to 7, or 1 to 3, who cares?[/QUOTE]It's not universally accepted. Even within the small community of ISG It's not accepted by all. Add to that, everyone who uses it has their own unique rating system. One guy hates tattoos. Any girl with tattoos can be no better than a 6. One guy loves tattoos. A girl without any is a complete waste to him. Right now there are fresh reviews in the Bogota thread using the 1-10 scale. Read them. Read the descriptions of the girls. Based upon the descriptions would you agree with the rating?

I could go on and on. Fake boobs and asses? Some love, some hate. Thick, thin, tall, or short, all get different ratings depending on the guy's preference. Hair color, hair style, skin color, the variations are endless and that's reflected by everyone who uses the 1-10 scale.

I don't use the scale. Except for sitting around drinking beer with friends and rating the girls we see, it's useless. And if you've ever had friends and engaged in that activity you would understand why. Bob likes big tits, while Tim likes them smaller. Bill is an ass man and Tony has a thing about blondes. About the only agreement will be whether or not everyone would fuck each girl (subject to change depending on number of beers consumed).

Your own recent posts prove how useless your version of the scale is. You stated that you've maybe had 1 who was a 9, along with maybe 4 or 5 who were 8 to 8. 5. Even you're uncertain whether the 9 was a 9 (the only other alternative is that you are uncertain whether or not you fucked her). Then you stated you've had hundreds in the 6-8 range, but now you're saying it was only a few 6's and hundreds of 7's. In simpler terms, of the hundreds of women you've fucked, almost all were in the "kinda pretty" range.

There was a game I played when I was living in Medellin. Whenever I was walking I'd count the girls who appeared to be within the age group I'm interested in, 18-32. Then I would figure out what percentage were at least a 7 (using your scale, you basically only fuck 7's, but would like to reach higher), meaning the women who I would happily fuck. Routinely, of the women who I estimated to be between 18 and 32,75% met my fuckable standards. For comparison, in the US that number runs below 20%. Fucking 7's in Medellin is an accomplishment on par with finding a coffee shop.

Yet for some reason, you try to make it seem like you are climbing Mt. Everest barefoot, while everyone else takes an elevator to go up 1 floor.

Why? Why obsess over who everyone else is fucking and try to claim you're doing it better, when your own words show that you're just scoring typical paisas who charge more? Is it because you're searching for girls who speak enough English to get you off Google Translate? You've mentioned that a few times. If that's the core of your criteria, that's great. It explains why they're in demand and why they charge more.

However, if all you're doing is fucking 7's, you can do it cheaper.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2826064]How does a chick go from prostitute to hardened prostitute? Is there an amount of time that she needs to put in? Are there certain skills that need to be learned before crossing the line from one to the other?

Where are these high-end 18 year old fresh cuties? News Flash: There are not any! You seriously think that an 18 year old has learned enough personality-wise from 0-18 to be able to relate to and entertain what are mostly older men? These so-called high end chicks are ones that have been at it a while. Whether they are hardened or not I guess would be left up to individual interpretation, but they damn sure are not new to the game or fresh 18 year old cuties.[/QUOTE]I was with a 18 year old in MV30 in Brazil. I don't know where she learned everything at such a young age but she was a professional already. Her body was a solid 9 and face a 7. Anal, Deep throat, pse all the way. Nothing fazed her. Maybe she was molested as a kid from what you guys posted which would explain things. I tried to get her to come to my hotel another night but she didn't do that. Never saw her there again. The turnover in the ho biz is huge.

[I]Simp is a slang insult for men who are seen as too attentive and submissive to women, especially out of a failed hope of winning some entitled sexual attention or activity from them.[/I]

How does that play into a transactional relationship. This is Ad Hominem attack central up in here. Can't anyone make a logical argument to make their point without attacking "the man"? What's up with all the passive aggressive girly man name calling?

Latin American culture is different that the culture I grew up in. I can't speak for Colombia because I have only been there a week. But I suspect things are pretty much the same as the culture I have learned by living in the Dominican Republic. And girls start early. And they they are often (no proof or knowledge of actual statistics) sexualized by close male relatives early in their lives. I was told by a Dominican Man that they don't worry about hot girls going with visitors to the country. He stated two factors: 1. By the time they get with the gringos most Dominican men that wanted them have had them. 2. A new group of Dominican girls become eligible everyday.

Worldwide there is a shortage of men for the number of girl available. With an abundance mindset every man can have as much pussy as they want. What they get caught up on is believing the hype of individuals who think it is more important to get "high quality pussy" (whatever the fuck that happens to mean to the person making the statement) instead of paying attention to the deal (when paying prostitutes) and the quality of sexual performance they get.

I keep a harem because I can and because there is not one girl that is available whenever I like that does ALL the things I like!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2826183]Yea it's really common sense. These girls all have the most up to date iPhones luxury items make up nails hair perfumes. All very expensive.[/QUOTE]Have you read the forum? These chicks are not buying these things themselves. The phones that are not knockoffs (don't know how you can tell by just looking at a picture and not the internals) some simp has bought for her. Every other post a guy wants to know what gift to bring to a hooker. I remember years ago a chick in Thailand having the most up to date iPhone. She said she did not even want it but some guy she was fucking for money forced it on her.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2826342]I was told by a Dominican Man that they don't worry about hot girls going with visitors to the country. He stated two factors: 1. By the time they get with the gringos most Dominican men that wanted them have had them. 2. A new group of Dominican girls become eligible everyday.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The local guy is through with it long before the high paying foreigner knows what to do with it. But these ethnocentric foreigners believe she is worth 500,000 or that local men are jealous because they come in and pay all this money to fuck the same women the locals have been fucking all their lives. Preposterous! But as the saying goes, one man's leftovers is another man's feast.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2826207]It's not universally accepted. Even within the small community of ISG It's not accepted by all. Add to that, everyone who uses it has their own unique rating system. One guy hates tattoos. Any girl with tattoos can be no better than a 6. One guy loves tattoos. A girl without any is a complete waste to him. Right now there are fresh reviews in the Bogota thread using the 1-10 scale. Read them. Read the descriptions of the girls. Based upon the descriptions would you agree with the rating?

I could go on and on. Fake boobs and asses? Some love, some hate. Thick, thin, tall, or short, all get different ratings depending on the guy's preference. Hair color, hair style, skin color, the variations are endless and that's reflected by everyone who uses the 1-10 scale.

I don't use the scale. Except for sitting around drinking beer with friends and rating the girls we see, it's useless. And if you've ever had friends and engaged in that activity you would understand why. Bob likes big tits, while Tim likes them smaller. Bill is an ass man and Tony has a thing about blondes. About the only agreement will be whether or not everyone would fuck each girl (subject to change depending on number of beers consumed).

Your own recent posts prove how useless your version of the scale is. You stated that you've maybe had 1 who was a 9, along with maybe 4 or 5 who were 8 to 8. 5. Even you're uncertain whether the 9 was a 9 (the only other alternative is that you are uncertain whether or not you fucked her). Then you stated you've had hundreds in the 6-8 range, but now you're saying it was only a few 6's and hundreds of 7's. In simpler terms, of the hundreds of women you've fucked, almost all were in the "kinda pretty" range.

There was a game I played when I was living in Medellin. Whenever I was walking I'd count the girls who appeared to be within the age group I'm interested in, 18-32. Then I would figure out what percentage were at least a 7 (using your scale, you basically only fuck 7's, but would like to reach higher), meaning the women who I would happily fuck. Routinely, of the women who I estimated to be between 18 and 32,75% met my fuckable standards. For comparison, in the US that number runs below 20%. Fucking 7's in Medellin is an accomplishment on par with finding a coffee shop.

Yet for some reason, you try to make it seem like you are climbing Mt. Everest barefoot, while everyone else takes an elevator to go up 1 floor.

Why? Why obsess over who everyone else is fucking and try to claim you're doing it better, when your own words show that you're just scoring typical paisas who charge more? Is it because you're searching for girls who speak enough English to get you off Google Translate? You've mentioned that a few times. If that's the core of your criteria, that's great. It explains why they're in demand and why they charge more.

However, if all you're doing is fucking 7's, you can do it cheaper.[/QUOTE]1. The 1-10 scale is not supposed to take into account your personal preferences or fetishes. Let me explain. Most guys on here who use the scale, don't know how to use it properly. If one doesn't like tattoos or hates blondes, and asked to rate a girl who has tattoos or is a blonde, but is objectively attractive nevertheless (all natural, proportionate body, white healthy teeth, etc) you know what happens? Instead of rating her an 8, for example, he rates her a 5, just because he is not his type or there is something about her that he hates, while all other dudes who are asked to rate the same girl, rate her fairly. Instead of taking off half a point because she has tattoos, he trashes the girl and now she is moved to the 5's category of unattractive women. Imagine you are judging a national or international beauty contest. Along with 10 other male judges of different age, preferences, etc. There is a lineup of 30 attractive girls of different backgrounds, races, professions, etc. All of the judges are supposed to use 1. 10 scale when rating. Imagine this a fair competition, and no judge is bribed, no judge fucks any of these women, there is no political stuff involved, etc. As a judge, would you trash a beautiful black lady, and rate her a 5, just because you don't like black people? Or would you rate her fairly regardless of your personal preference using some established metrics / criteria (height, facial proportions, hair, teeth / smile, body fat %, etc, Idk exactly what metrics they use but there has to be a number of them). And speaking of the above example, If I hate tattoos and absolutely can't have sex with any girl who has them, I will still rate a girl fairly if she is attractive, and she could easily exceed my minimum standard of 7+ even though I would not fuck her.

2. Speaking of the game you played. You are assuming with have similar standards, when in fact, we don't. You don't even use the scale in the first place. I do use the scale and my minimum standard is 7/10. You don't use it, so it is hard to tell what your minimum standard is, it could easily be a 5/10, or lower. If that's the case (and I'm sure it is), no wonder why you find 75% of all women to be fuckable or meet your minimum standards. If I played the very same game, my result would be 10%-15%, maybe 20% on a good day, depending where I go. This means only 1 to 2 girls out of every 10 I find doable. Last April me and my buddy went to El Centro because he wanted to check it out as it was his first time in MDE, do you know how many fuckable women both of us found? Zero. The other day we went to Loutron, the lineup was about 7-8 girls, only 1 of which met my minimum standards. Another night, I hit La Isla with a friend, out of maybe 30 girls or so, maybe 3-4 I would do. So clearly, finding and scoring a 7+ is not that easy as it seems to you, and also, we have different understanding of what a 7 is.

3. English language. Roughly 3 out of every 5 monger friends that I have, do speak fluent or intermediate Spanish. Do you think they pay less because of that? Nope. We pay almost the same, with maybe 5-10% variance, which is not always in their favor. We pay going rates and the ability to speak Spanish has literally zero effect on the price. But speaking Spanish can definitely improve one's overall experience, get better service, etc, because nobody enjoys having communication issues.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2826306]I was with a 18 year old in MV30 in Brazil. I don't know where she learned everything at such a young age but she was a professional already.....[/QUOTE]They can watch porn videos. They can have sex with friends too.

Maybe she fucks a lot and she fucks good and earns her money. It can be argued that mongers that are wage slaves earn their money by selling their time, mind and body (if you do a dangerous job that can get your killed) in order to have all of the top the line things in their lives. But when a girl does it the collective has an apoplectic fit over the issue. I don't get it.

And are we defining simp as being any man who does not think like you and does not do things according to your standards?