Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2975014]Whoa there, JLI; so you are telling us that there is new place now open in the building where Nataree used to be, and they have pretty girls? This is very interesting news. Tell us more like what is the setup there? Is it a bordello like Nataree was or a pickup bar like Thermae? In it's day, Nataree was a meat market, but was a great place because they had a ton of young, pretty, girls from the north before the authorities shut it down). It's location never deterred me from going, but then I used to go Kings Castle 1 & 2, Patpong at least once a week and I didn't care if I had to travel all the way from Thong Lo to get there. I will always go the extra mile for pretty girls and a little variety.[/QUOTE]Oh let me elaborate. I mean that entire area has a lot of pretty girls, easily at the level of Nana / Soi Cowboy. It's just kinda far to get there. I've seen some cute girls at Emanual and Poseidon and there was a ton at some place called Lords (which shut down) and Nataree (which shut down) but those girls didn't disappear they just jump to a nearby spot on that big street.

My mongering is limited to places where it is legal or defacto legal (Germany, Czech, Spain, Netherlands, and Australia). So it was organized so to speak. What are the best massage parlors in the Nana / Asok / Soi Cowboy area? Stupid question but in those countries, I could pay with credit card. Is that even possible in Thailand?

I see some reports of air quality and talent levels. I can confirm there were some rancid smells in BKK I've never experienced before and it was generally more dirty than Hong Kong. As to air quality, hard to judge as most cities have bad air quality, riding in the open taxi 3 wheelers you can def sense the bad air quality more because of the fumes. As for talent, I also was a bit disappointed, still mongerable, obviously, but they were fewer and far between than I had anticipated. But as many others have written, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

My first stop in Bangkok was Aya Massage, straight off the plane, shower, spritz, taxi. Interestingly this was one of my best experiences of the trip. The mama sans had an ipad menu LOL. But this place is reasonably priced 2000 baht, which I've realized is a fair going wage + a nice tip. The mamasan brought out all the girls. It's always a bit awkward when they put on this dog and pony show, but it is effective. I chose this tall one named, she was very cute and timid and was happy to be selected, which I've also realized is an important indicator of the experience. In the room I did not realize how much of a tank this Thai girl had, it was incredible. We skipped the massage and got right to it. I only purchased a happy ending but we boom boomed. Not sure if this is common, she was very complimentary of me, but you also got to throw some game on these situations, even if it's all body language and flirting. I tipped Alina 1000 baht. I think tipping is important for the general economy, we need to incentivize good service, because it's not always great. Keep reading.

The next place I went was Snow White. This place was a bit more grimey. But the lore here is that these girls are a bit more down for whatever. I had a couple beers at The Game before I cruised in, which I highly suggest BTW, just to take the edge off, and it allows you to put some mileage down. I went in about 6 pm, so there were only 3 girls working, but one was pretty cute, high cheek bones and big lips. This was also pretty enjoyable, because I took my time. I was so jacked up landing in BKK and turned on by the first girls tank I didn't use all my time, but I did go two rounds with her. At Snow White we had real sex and it was pretty good. Word for the streets, most girls are not into Greek, I've tried with a bunch, so you really got to be direct when you roll in that's what you want. Fee was 2000 baht and I tipped 1000.

One night I went to check out the real Nana Plaza. Fucking hell. This place is a zoo. I mean it's one of the most disgusting yet stimulating places on earth. Honestly these types of places are not my speed, this is Costco, I prefer boutique. But I had to do it, since I'the read about Billboard and Rainbows on here. This place is like an American strip mall, it's like 4 floors high, you shaped and you walk in through a security check. Each floor has various strip clubs. I went to Billboards, the music was blasting and there is a soapy bowl where topless women play with each other and the other side has a rotating platform, where girls wear bikinis and have numbers on them and you tell the Mamasan who you want and they come sit with you.

Word for the streets, bring low bills of cash everywhere, because ALL these bitches have their hands out for tips. I mean it got so fucking annoying in Phuket I just started telling people no tip straight to their face. I'm fine tipping the girls for sex, but everyone has their hands out at these super commercial joints, from the mamasan, to the waiter, to the cashier, it gets excessive.

Billboards was the most expensive and the most mid experience, this is where the pros are, no semi's, no friendies. It's like going to a fucking car dealership. 5000 baht and 1000 baht of that goes to the manasan, then you got to shell out drinks for the girls and tip the drunk ass waiters for bringing the drink. So if you have like 5 beers you are digging into your pockets constantly. They don't have rooms so you got to do the most gross walk of shame to a sex hotel down the street, which in Bangkok, just use your imagination on what that's like. Hotel is pretty cheap.

The sex was mid here, the girl was stoned af supposedly, her friend told me later, but she was really fun and flirty but the sex was lazy. I think she even gave me a look when I went to do doggy and forget anal, oh lord no. I guess I'm not as hard core as some of the mongers on here that lay out exactly what they want, I like to keep the experience a surprise.

The absolute worst experience of my fucking life was at I believe Addict Massage, I went to Mango first but the girls looked bad standing outside, so I walked down, to a red Chinese looking place. This was 2300 baht plus another 300 baht I think for the room. The mamasan asked who I wanted and these girls were not that sweet, but this lean tall girl with straight hair and a great rack, was walking out for her break or something and I chose her, thinking she'the be happy to get a customer, but wrong move, this ***** was the worst, had attitude, was so sexually mechanical and actually told me no doggy style, just laid supine the entire time. I was so shook by the bad service, I just finished as fast as I could and bounced.

I know there are some dawgs on here that get these girls to do all sorts of wild shit in the room. Idk how they do it because the language barrier is so steep and I don't like to be pushy.

Soi Cowboy was the last night and it was a pretty fun experience, less crazy than Nana plaza and hotter girls. I did have a little situation with the sans maybe it was the papasan. I had to check his ass. Note for all the beginner mongers, never never bring out a fucking credit card. Rule #1 always use cash and always have clothing with pockets that allows you to stash and retrieve cash quickly and discreetly.

My boy gave the san his card at some point when these girls were sitting on our laps and trying to get in our pockets. I didn't see it. Then the bill comes and it's like 10 k baht and we had like two beers. He's a rookie and not a monger, poor guy broke his cherry at Billboards of all places. Anyway I took the bill back to the sans and got them to lower it, they tried to argue but I was firm. I don't mind supporting this sex economy and overpaying here and there but I won't be shaken down. What's also so funny at these places is there is barely any security, LOL. In the US you wouldn't even get to set foot close to a boss at a strip club.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2974945]Exactly. This has been the rule for 40 plus years. The girls will respect you more if you are dressed in what they consider to be indicative of a higher social standing.

Flip flops or barefoot sandals are another class indicator. Folks that wear shoes in public are simply viewed to be higher class. Thais are very class conscious.

I don't make the rules, I just follow them. What Goatscrot says is absolutely correct.

ProTip: Nothing is more fun on your first mongering trip that getting your foot cut up and then infected. Make sure then you wear flip flops while walking drunk down Soi Nana. I have never worn open toed sandals of flip flops in SE Asia outside my home. Never in 40 years. I like my toes and I don't get free health care. Its a basic health measure.[/QUOTE]Yes, sandals / shoes are another class indicator. In fact the feet attire worn are probably more important than the shorts / long trousers; not just for the impression they give, but also for health and safety in this environment. I wear sandals (never flip flops) in and around my home, but always wear proper shoes if I'm going into town.

[QUOTE=FriendlyGuyHi;2974962]Before I begin my rant, let me just say that I've traveled to Thailand more than 12 times stretching back to my first trip back in '98. When I lived in Singapore in the mid-2000's, Thailand was a frequent destination for getaway weekends, etc. I recently got the DTV visa for the purpose of testing the waters for longer stays because in the past, I've really enjoyed Bangkok's cosmopolitan mix of dining, shopping, leisurely activities, cost of living, etc. My last trip was last year and I enjoyed myself.

What happened?

I haven't had a breath of fresh air since I arrived over a month ago. I've grown accustomed to the occasional wafting of future air from the canals or the sewer grates, But I thought I was quite a depth in knowing which areas to avoid and bypassing risky spots. But the air on this trip has been unbearable. Not a day has gone by where on multiple occasions, I haven't felt the urge to hurl the contents of my stomach due to the stench. My throat is raw due to the effects of air pollution that reminds me of India or Egypt. For the first time in my life, I've resorted to walking around with a mask on and even that is just borderline effective. On the 200 m walk back from the local restaurant to my Thonglor boutique hotel, Tears came to my eyes as I watched mothers walk their young ones out for a Sunday stroll, and the only thing I could think about was the irreparable damage they were doing to their young lungs.

I have traveled here in January and February before so I thought I was ready for what I knew was the bad season. But this is unreal. Am I overly sensitive or has anyone else noticed the severity?

I originally had the intention of staying here for three or four months, but now I'm looking for an escape. I tried going to Phuket. That was abysmal. My first mistake was going to Rawai which is a complete shit hole. Nai Harn beach smelled like raw sewage. I tried going swimming in Kata and Karon, but the sea lice in both had me running out of the water. I left Phuket five days before the end of my prepaid stay.

From a hobbyist perspective. It also seems to me that the quality of talent in Nana, Cowboy and Patpong has seriously gone downhill. As early as last year, I was getting great action from 7's, 8's and occasional 9's. This year, I've barely managed to locate an 8. Most are dark-skinned 6's that locals wouldn't even bother with. All the girls have decent quality seemed to have gone to the Japanese and Korean KTV's. Even T-Ded 99 seemed to have higher caliber girls than most of the go-go's in Nana.

I know I'm going to get flamed. Have at it. But as someone who's thoroughly enjoyed himself here over the years.

On a (hopefully) more positive note. Can anyone let me know if the air quality in KL or Singapore is markedly better than Bangkok? I remembered being so, but I know they also suffer some smog during this season.[/QUOTE]I think you're being a bit sensitive there chief. What you're describing doesn't sound like Bangkok at all. Last time I was there, it was fine. Next thing you'd be saying that Bangkok floods every now and then. Nothing bad happens in Paradise. And Bangkok is Paradise. Don't make it out to be bad just cause you're lucky enough to be there. I'd do anything to get back there. Sell my soul even but no takers so far.

Also, who swims in the waters off Phuket or Pattaya anyway? It's always been full of sewage and gross. That's like trying to swim in any of the canals of Bangkok. No one should do it. Everyone has known this for years now.

I do agree with you that Nana, Cowboy has gone downhill. But that's been the case for years, and it coincides with the increase of the bar fine prices too. Look, whoever you are bub, you're one lucky dude to be able to be in the Paradise on earth that's Thailand, just accept your good fortune, and don't feel bad about it. Think about the rest of us unlucky fucks that are stuck where it's ridiculously cold now. Here I am, trapped in a job where though I'm quite good at, my millennial colleagues hates me with a passion cause of my old ass ways. Trapped, wishing for death everyday.

But you, you're in paradise. And you're worried about a little smog? Dude, you're surrounded by hot pussy. And you're wasting time trying to swim in the dirty waters of Thailand? You got all your priorities wrong chief. Focus on the pussy. That's what Thailand is for. Pussy.

Geez man, talk about priorities. You have access to plenty of affordable, hot pussy and you're worried about the quality of air? Wow. Anyway, if you're headed to Singapore, you should know the best game in town is Geylang, but most of the chicks there are Thai anyway, so why even go to Singapore? I've been all over South East Asia, mongered all over the world, and Thailand is tough to beat when it comes to this hobby. It's got the best combination of everything. Price, chicks, food, safety. I know deep inside, you know that Thailand is it, and you're just going through this thing now where you wanna make excuses to leave Thailand, cause you're afraid to settle there. But ask yourself. Truly ask yourself. Is there anyplace better than Thailand? None. No better place.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2970969]Last night I, through no fault of my own, ended up having two girls coming, one after the other. One at 00:30 (a repeat with Miss 172 cm who I posted a photo of earlier), and the other one, my first african girl. A 22 year old who arrived at 01:30, and who looked so hooish, with a neon-green dress and high heels, that I felt slightly embarrassed as she stalked past the security guards and towards me. What would my mother think?

She said it was her third day in Thailand, from Kenya, and was a good fuck with a pleasant enough personality.
[/QUOTE]Common consensu here is mostly that what one guy pays does not affect the other guy. To show what I think is an example of the opposite: I repeated with miss Africa once in the early afternoon. That session was similarly good to the first one:

Arrived, showers, on to the bed, and then, after she rather too quickly had enough of sucking my dick IMO, gets on top of me.

Her: Where is condom? Me: In 7-11.
Her: You will go get it? Me: Maybe tomorrow.

[laughs and slides on top of my dick and we have a good session.]

A week or so later I ask her if she want's to come over again "now" (again early afternoon):
She: Ok, but today price is 2000
Me: sorry, cannot.
She: ok, bye

So I'm guessing she has enough customers paying her more (2000 and up), and so she'd rather twiddle her thumbs waiting for one of them than repeating with me for 1500, even while her pussy is idle.
Also I probably misheard her "today is three weeks" as "today is three days" the first time.

Thanks to all those that have replied to my dress code question. I'll wear long pants and some 'posh' sneakers.

I'm only in BK for two nights so it's not the end of the world.

I now have another random question!

My first time mongering in Thailand next week and it appears that a lot of the girls (young and old) have braces. I don't think I ever dated a girl with braces growing up so have no experience of them. A few questions please?

Is DFK a problem with them?

How about BBBJ?

Are they more likely to have bad breath?

Thank you for helping with my random questions!

This is not a report but rather a question. I have been in Bangkok about a week. I have gone to Thermae, nana and soi cowboy a couple of massage and blow job joints and have picked up at least one lady each day sometimes 2. That's on top of the broader pool of ladies that I do lady drink interviews with. Of all the ladies I spoken to and or brought back to my hotel for deeper conversation I noticed that more than 2/3 have come from the same province. Isan. I am curious if anyone knows why there are so many ladies available from this one place. Furthermore are there spots in Isan dudes are going to? Not only are there a lot of woman in the biz from Isan but they generally seem to be the hotest, at least for my taste. I. e. Darker. I'm already trying to work out how to come back and where to go besides Bangkok.

Looking for educated opinions as far as areas in which to stay. I am looking for university girls, either freelance or 'regular' girls to meet, sideline girls such as those available on fiwifans, mall trolling for dates, and onlines. Thinking about the Asok area near Terminal 21 but open to other areas where there are lots of students. Please don't say near Nana or near Soi Cowboy as I really don't have much interest in that scene. I've been to Bangkok many times before but not recently. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2975243]I think you're being a bit sensitive there chief. What you're describing doesn't sound like Bangkok at all. Last time I was there, it was fine. Next thing you'd be saying that Bangkok floods every now and then. Nothing bad happens in Paradise. And Bangkok is Paradise. Don't make it out to be bad just cause you're lucky enough to be there. I'd do anything to get back there. Sell my soul even but no takers so far.

Also, who swims in the waters off Phuket or Pattaya anyway? It's always been full of sewage and gross. That's like trying to swim in any of the canals of Bangkok. No one should do it. Everyone has known this for years now.

I do agree with you that Nana, Cowboy has gone downhill. But that's been the case for years, and it coincides with the increase of the bar fine prices too. Look, whoever you are bub, you're one lucky dude to be able to be in the Paradise on earth that's Thailand, just accept your good fortune, and don't feel bad about it. Think about the rest of us unlucky fucks that are stuck where it's ridiculously cold now. Here I am, trapped in a job where though I'm quite good at, my millennial colleagues hates me with a passion cause of my old ass ways. Trapped, wishing for death everyday.

But you, you're in paradise. And you're worried about a little smog? Dude, you're surrounded by hot pussy. And you're wasting time trying to swim in the dirty waters of Thailand? You got all your priorities wrong chief. Focus on the pussy. That's what Thailand is for. Pussy.

Geez man, talk about priorities. You have access to plenty of affordable, hot pussy and you're worried about the quality of air? Wow. Anyway, if you're headed to Singapore, you should know the best game in town is Geylang, but most of the chicks there are Thai anyway, so why even go to Singapore? I've been all over South East Asia, mongered all over the world, and Thailand is tough to beat when it comes to this hobby. It's got the best combination of everything. Price, chicks, food, safety. I know deep inside, you know that Thailand is it, and you're just going through this thing now where you wanna make excuses to leave Thailand, cause you're afraid to settle there. But ask yourself. Truly ask yourself. Is there anyplace better than Thailand? None. No better place.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. If one is worried about a little air pollution they didn't do their research and has no business being in Bangkok. Some people just refuse to be happy.

[QUOTE=Lumens;2975273]This is not a report but rather a question. I have been in Bangkok about a week. I have gone to Thermae, nana and soi cowboy a couple of massage and blow job joints and have picked up at least one lady each day sometimes 2. That's on top of the broader pool of ladies that I do lady drink interviews with. Of all the ladies I spoken to and or brought back to my hotel for deeper conversation I noticed that more than 2/3 have come from the same province. Isan. I am curious if anyone knows why there are so many ladies available from this one place. Furthermore are there spots in Isan dudes are going to? Not only are there a lot of woman in the biz from Isan but they generally seem to be the hotest, at least for my taste. I. e. Darker. I'm already trying to work out how to come back and where to go besides Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Isaan is not a province, it is the northeast region of Thailand. Several different provinces. Primarily poor farmers. The girls can earn the most money for families by going away and becoming prostitutes. Many times the girls tell family that they are going to Rayong or Chon Buri to work in factory, but the girls really go to Bangkok or Pattaya and become hookers. Many times the family knows exactly what the girls do for money. It is often an accepted career choice.

Often the bar girl has children and grandmother cares for children while girl sends her bar earned money to mother.

[QUOTE=Lumens;2975273]I noticed that more than 2/3 have come from the same province. Isan. I am curious if anyone knows why there are so many ladies available from this one place. Furthermore are there spots in Isan dudes are going to? Not only are there a lot of woman in the biz from Isan[/QUOTE]As someone else said Isan is an entire region. You have to tell them "where, Isan big" for them to give you a better idea of the province and city.

The chicks to my liking tend to be from Buriram or Surin. The chicks "in the biz" go to the tourist areas of Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket to be in the biz. They are back home farming, not hooring around.

I might take a short trip to BKK soon, and after searching and reading some reports over the past few months, I'm curious to try a gentleman's club in BKK. From what I understand, the main players are:

Tara Entertainment: Here, you can book a room starting from 3,500 THB for 2-3 hours, plus the cost of the lady. You can enjoy your time with her there, including food, drinks, and other activities. The cost for the ladies starts from 5,000 THB and goes up, and the quality is generally good.

T-ded-99: Similar to Tara but at a cheaper price. Rooms might cost around 1,000 THB for the same duration, and ladies start from 2,500 THB for "boom boom. " However, you'll need to go to an outside hotel.

Pimp: This is the luxury option, where rooms start at 8,000 THB, and "boom boom" is not guaranteed. If the lady agrees, you'll need to take her to an outside hotel, with additional costs starting from 8,000 THB.

Japanese Street, or Soi Taniya: This area is full of karaoke bars. Prices vary and can range from 2,000 to 3,000 THB for a room for a couple of hours, plus the cost of the lady and the hotel if she agrees to come.

To recap, for spending 2-3 hours with a lady and "boom boom," the cost would be around 10,000 THB at Tara, 4,000-5,000 THB at T-ded-99, and around 20,000 THB at Pimp. Japanese Street prices vary, starting from around 8,000 THB. Am I correct?

Additionally, while individual experiences may vary, the "customer experience" is likely the best at Pimp, followed by Tara in second place. T-ded-99 and Japanese Street seem to be at a similar level. I've read about other places like Black Caviar or LaBelle, but they seem less interesting to me.

Any comments? Thanks for your opinion.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2975282]Looking for educated opinions as far as areas in which to stay. I am looking for university girls, either freelance or 'regular' girls to meet, sideline girls such as those available on fiwifans, mall trolling for dates, and onlines. Thinking about the Asok area near Terminal 21 but open to other areas where there are lots of students. Please don't say near Nana or near Soi Cowboy as I really don't have much interest in that scene. I've been to Bangkok many times before but not recently. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]If you are serious about meeting regular university girls, not talking about bargirls, freelancers, Thermae part timers, fiwfans escapees, etc, away from the Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza scene, honest to goodness educated little hotties who might or might not have ever met a farang before or ever driven down Soi 4, not hustling for free drinks or hanging out in a bar at all then the hottest Thai social scene in Bangkok is on and around Banthat Thong Road between Rama 1 and Rama IV, about 5 km from Nana Plaza.

Every night of the week it is packed with university girls and, well, boys too, primarily from nearby Chulalongkorn University. Of course, it is packed the most on the weekends when they add a big night market area. Tons of mostly Asian eateries but a few western style restaurants too, pizza, burgers and so on.

If you really want to test your game with genuine, regular Bangkok university girls who are very, very likely not into the P4P scene, that would be the place right now.

There is no convenient Skytrain or Subway train to the area. So you will want to take a taxi West on Sukhumvit, which becomes Rama 1, past MBK and left at Stadium One, which is Banthat Thong Road. Tell the driver to drop you off at the corner of Chulalongkorn 14 Alley. The restaurant on that corner is Shall We Meet and Eat, which features steaks and pizza. You will then be in the heart of it. Explore around.

As I said, it is a popular regular, family-friendly hangout most any evening after 6 pm but especially packed shoulder-to-shoulder with university girls avoiding doing their homework on the weekends.

There are hotels in the area. I have never stayed in a hotel there but see several moderately priced ones online. Being only 5 km away from Nana Plaza I suppose staying there doesn't totally separate you from that option, too. Although taking a taxi the whole way at prime time would be a traffic nightmare going past all those big shopping malls. Going there I would probably ride the Skytrain from Nana to Siam, transfer at Siam to the National Stadium (MBK) station and then ride a taxi from there.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2975269]Thanks to all those that have replied to my dress code question. I'll wear long pants and some 'posh' sneakers.

I'm only in BK for two nights so it's not the end of the world.

I now have another random question!

My first time mongering in Thailand next week and it appears that a lot of the girls (young and old) have braces. I don't think I ever dated a girl with braces growing up so have no experience of them. A few questions please?

Is DFK a problem with them?

How about BBBJ?

Are they more likely to have bad breath?

Thank you for helping with my random questions![/QUOTE]This is a necessary question. It was very hard for me to find a 18-20 yr old without braces. It is like a bra. Everybody in this age group has one Many of these girls are just looking for some money to pay of them. DKF is out of question for me. BBBJ may be fine if they take it slow but there is risk of bruises and cuts which can be a gateway for STDs later on your trip. And yes bad breath is almost a certainly due to bacteria build up that is very hard to clean and these are very young girls so they are generally impatient. I had mine gargle mouthwash for a minute but still no luck. I also found these girls provide better discounts so there is that one bright spot.