Makati

[QUOTE=Forest;2231649]Roger: It is not that I do not believe you (I have been quite impressed with your posts over the last few years), nor do I doubt RedKilt either, but it's that I really do not understand. Am not certain how targeting FLs in Dillman would warrant a complaint if the young lady were really an FL. On the other hand, dating one's students might be a serious problem.
[/QUOTE]Something has been lost in translation here Forest.

My point was simply that there is a risk for any monger targeting non-BGs, because there can be uncertainty about whether a girl is a FL or whether she is simply waiting for a friend, Grab taxi etc. In an area where UP students outnumber others there is also a risk that you will approach someone who is grossly offended by an approach unless it is blatantly obvious that she is an FL. There are obviously different ways to approach girls but we have often discussed here the ham-fisted operators who assume, as WR said, that every filipina on the street will roll over for them.

If you get it wrong, a politically savvy girl can make life difficult for such dills.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2231684]......
These are just a few "what ifs". I think you get the drift. Hence the monger would want to remain non-committal (men in general fear / avoid commitment) till you have had the first pop. After that you can make up your mind for an extension, if things are in favor. Yeah?[/QUOTE]Just remember half the girls out there are below average in the sack.

I don't want to commit to a several day visit until I know that she is to standard there. Unless she has some other significant redeeming qualities, she has to be in the top 25% for a return visit.

So I went back after 2 weeks at home. And the second time was even better than the second. I have never had so much sex in my life. There are basically three shifts. You get someone to stay with you all night, then you can wake up and try massage girls that start at 5 am and will do an hour hand job starting at 1000 peso. You can bring one back to your room for the same price and she will get naked and rub your cock the whole time for as long as you want. Then then the bars open from 2 pm with 210 peso happy hour drinks. Happy hour ends at 7 pm in all of them except shampoo. The street girls come out from about 7 but peak at 10 pm on the dot on the corner near filling station. You can get a feral old freak brain damaged diseased probably with an average face to do it all for 750 peso but you would have to be crazy to take it. She will approach you as you walk down the street during the day. So I wanted just to give a few tips that may help someone. I spent a lot of time in the bars and got to know a lot of the girls so much so that I had to keep switching bars because the same one comes running every time you go back and it gets annoying. I want variety. Except when I don't. So shampoo and plan be and bourbon are the tamest of the bars. The girls will touch your cock but in the other places they will go a lot further. Get a girl to pull her panties aside and sit on your inserted finger in the other ones, or get them to lick your nipples and stomach and below in most of the others bars for the same few drinks and a tip of 1000 or 2000 for a couple of hour. S I think I pay too much because they all want me and know how much I'm paying. But they all talk so maybe I'm not anything special / every time you come in they will bring a Christmas jar and ask you to donate to their Christmas party. Just resist, say you gave yesterday, or drop 50 peso in. Always have spall notes for shit like this and keep them in a separate pocket so you don't pull out 200 and then have to put it back like a cheap charlie.

So I got talking to the bar girls in one place and after a few hours we were in a private room. These don't need to cost more so ask for privacy in one if you are going to be tipping 1000 or more and the girl will lick your body and touch your cock and let you put your finger in in privacy. They are not supposed to touch it or lick it unless you pay the bar so you should try to get into one of these rooms because you will definitely get more. If they start to chin your dick on some bars two or one other cover girls will cover over to hide the action from mamasan and you will be hit for a tip for these. So get the private room or tell them you don't need a fat chick to cover you. These chick add to your bill because they will want a drink and then expect a tip as well. So we were in this private room and we had to turn on the room light because it was all chill and we were talking about other stuff and mama was bring me free drinks and stuff because she was the coolest mama ever. But the bright lights were put on and I was a bit horrified at how all the girls looked. Their makeup and dark club makes them look OK but even they got annoyed that I was allowed to see them with the lights on. The know that they don't look that hot so try to light them up with your torch phone if you can. Or tell them to get their phone and ask to see facebook as a conversation thing and see what they look like. Some of them are truly horrible outside. One of them arranged to meet me outside after and I was shocked. I virtually ran from her when I saw her without the make up. Be careful.

I am not sure what the best value girl are. An hour naked with handjobs from the massage girls in your room or their shop, 2500-3500 for a short term with sex which will end up being 1 hour from the street girls. 8000 to bar fine a bar girl for possibly the night. Or 10,000 for a 24 hour live in girl- possibly 8000 or 7000. But you need to tell them that if they leave early the payment will be less. This is the only way to stop getting ripped off. Its working out at $25 an hour for whatever but if they leave after 1 instead of 3 its $75. When you tell them you will cut their fee they know you know what they are going to do and they will play fair because they still want the money. They are mostly good girls but they want a good deal just like we do. But I brought one in to be naked and just touch my cock for 2 hours while I worked on the laptop and that was good till I extended another 3 hours and it was 5000 I should have negotiated a cheaper deal for bulk hours. And we ordered food in the middle and the fat fuck ordered enough to take home. Wtf I'm sick of them doing this. And she slacked off for an hour ordering it and eating it and licking her chops afterward. Pissed me off a bit.

I've booked a 3 week trip to Philippines in December and plan to spend 1 week in Makati. Previously, I've stayed in Antel Suites but I'm thinking of booking a condo on Airbnb. Gramercy Residence seems to have some nice options but I've read that their security is kinda strict about letting "guests" who are not registered up to the rooms, especially for overnight stays.

Has anyone stayed there or any other condo near Makati and comment on the guest policy?

[QUOTE=CaliScorpio;2237663]I've booked a 3 week trip to Philippines in December and plan to spend 1 week in Makati. Previously, I've stayed in Antel Suites but I'm thinking of booking a condo on Airbnb. Gramercy Residence seems to have some nice options but I've read that their security is kinda strict about letting "guests" who are not registered up to the rooms, especially for overnight stays.

Has anyone stayed there or any other condo near Makati and comment on the guest policy?[/QUOTE]Read my report of my stay at Gramercy here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=2050615&viewfull=1#post2050615[/URL]

Consider Knightsbridge or Milano residences, both within walking distance of Century Mall and Gramercy.

Also, almost all of your (7) reports are questions. Please post us a solid Field Report (otherwise, you are taking without giving -- a lot like my ex).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2237753]Read my report of my stay at Gramercy here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=2050615&viewfull=1#post2050615[/URL]

Consider Knightsbridge or Milano residences, both within walking distance of Century Mall and Gramercy.

Also, almost all of your (7) reports are questions. Please post us a solid Field Report (otherwise, you are taking without giving -- a lot like my ex).[/QUOTE]Westy, this is indeed a very comprehensive report. However, it does not mention anything about guest friendliness. Is that a given? I presume so.

[QUOTE=CaliScorpio;2237663]I've booked a 3 week trip to Philippines in December and plan to spend 1 week in Makati. Previously, I've stayed in Antel Suites but I'm thinking of booking a condo on Airbnb. Gramercy Residence seems to have some nice options but I've read that their security is kinda strict about letting "guests" who are not registered up to the rooms, especially for overnight stays.

Has anyone stayed there or any other condo near Makati and comment on the guest policy?[/QUOTE]Cali S.

Can you PM me as there is a long list of them but like anything price, flavour, location etc all play a part.

Westie. Nice comment about ex LOL. His last post was 2009 also!

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2237768]Westy, this is indeed a very comprehensive report. However, it does not mention anything about guest friendliness. Is that a given? I presume so.[/QUOTE]Gramercy is a condotel and I have stayed in at least 5 different condos in Makati and never had problems with guests. If you owned a condo then why would the guards be the ones deciding who you take with you as guests.

Only once one of my girls was treated like a prostitute and asked for IDs and all kind of rudeness and when she questioned the policy she was told like "If you don't like the rules don't come here". Then the next day there was a different guard and the girl went to him and told about the case and asked the name of the guard last night and gave some feedback to be sent to that guard. Then starting from the next day the first guard didn't talk to my guest anymore and was smiling. He had received the feedback from the company and was scared about his job maybe. And it is not about asking ID, that can be fine if it is the policy but it is the way how you do it politely.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2237768]Westy, this is indeed a very comprehensive report. However, it does not mention anything about guest friendliness. Is that a given? I presume so.[/QUOTE]Girl-friendly, like almost any hotel or other condo. At times the concierges (sp?) heads must have been spinning from both the number and frequency of when I was walking them in / out of the place. However, I was *always* with the girl (inbound and outbound). The guards took the eye dee of every girl. After a girl had been with me in / out over several days and the guards grew used to her, sometimes they let the girl waltz past with me without asking for her eye dee. I saw many other women walking in / out without an eye dee request, but I assume they are long-time condo owners (or family of such). One burgos street girl with me did not have an eye dee upon entering and the 2 guards at the door would not allow her entry. She kept telling them that she had been into the condo before with other of her 'friends' without an eye dee, and it was OK as long as the guy she was with was OK with it. The guards were having nothing to do with that and refused her entry. It wasn't worth my hassle; see 'ya sweetie, and at least go get a fake eye dee, right?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2238094]Girl-friendly, like almost any hotel or other condo. At times the concierges (sp?) heads must have been spinning from both the number and frequency of when I was walking them in / out of the place. However, I was *always* with the girl (inbound and outbound). The guards took the eye dee of every girl. After a girl had been with me in / out over several days and the guards grew used to her, sometimes they let the girl waltz past with me without asking for her eye dee. I saw many other women walking in / out without an eye dee request, but I assume they are long-time condo owners (or family of such). One burgos street girl with me did not have an eye dee upon entering and the 2 guards at the door would not allow her entry. She kept telling them that she had been into the condo before with other of her 'friends' without an eye dee, and it was OK as long as the guy she was with was OK with it. The guards were having nothing to do with that and refused her entry. It wasn't worth my hassle; see 'ya sweetie, and at least go get a fake eye dee, right?[/QUOTE]Thank you. This nicely rounds up the review.

While the practice of collecting ID at the reception is pretty standard, it offers the monger some benefit only if the staff actually call back the monger in the room to check if everything is OK and it is fine to hand over the ID to the girl and send her on her way. Else, it is just a waste of time and a process with no outcome. Not uncommon in the Philippines. If you don't like it, don't come here. Standard response. Geez!

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;2238007]Gramercy is a condotel and I have stayed in at least 5 different condos in Makati and never had problems with guests. If you owned a condo then why would the guards be the ones deciding who you take with you as guests.

Only once one of my girls was treated like a prostitute and asked for IDs and all kind of rudeness and when she questioned the policy she was told like "If you don't like the rules don't come here". Then the next day there was a different guard and the girl went to him and told about the case and asked the name of the guard last night and gave some feedback to be sent to that guard. Then starting from the next day the first guard didn't talk to my guest anymore and was smiling. He had received the feedback from the company and was scared about his job maybe. And it is not about asking ID, that can be fine if it is the policy but it is the way how you do it politely.[/QUOTE]Somewhat different experience for me Pek. Gram, Knightsbridge, Milano, every girl I've entered with has surrendered an eye dee to the guard and gotten it back upon departure (like you, few if any problems, hence its girl-friendly). In many condos there is no phone contact between the concierge desk and the patrons in the room (there is no direct phone line or wall phone in the room). In a hotel, the security guard can always call your room directly to check on your safety if the girl tries to leave without your being present (he will not give her eye dee back until he speaks with you). In a condo without such direct communication with the unit occupant, taking the girl's eye dee becomes extra important. Note about Knightsbridge: several times I waltzed in with a new girl and no eye dee was requested. It felt OK at the time, but in hindsight I wish they had requested it.

I think these are not condotels. The concierge is not a 'front desk' like a hotel, with the ability to rent out vacant condo's. Gents, am I wrong about this? Only the condo unit owners can rent (sublet), and often do thru airbnb (or such). The unit owner or his representative meets you or has you pick up a key from the concierge. The condo / concierge is not responsible for the room being like a rent-able hotel room. If there is a problem with the unit, you contact the owner (or his rep) to fix it, not the concierge desk. OTOH, Birch Tower in Malate has several organizations (on different floors) that rent out rooms.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2238096]Somewhat different experience for me Pek. Gram, Knightsbridge, Milano, every girl I've entered with has surrendered an eye dee to the guard and gotten it back upon departure (like you, few if any problems, hence its girl-friendly). In many condos there is no phone contact between the concierge desk and the patrons in the room (there is no direct phone line or wall phone in the room). In a hotel, the security guard can always call your room directly to check on your safety if the girl tries to leave without your being present (he will not give her eye dee back until he speaks with you). In a condo without such direct communication with the unit occupant, taking the girl's eye dee becomes extra important. Note about Knightsbridge: several times I waltzed in with a new girl and no eye dee was requested. It felt OK at the time, but in hindsight I wish they had requested it.

I think these are not condotels. The concierge is not a 'front desk' like a hotel, with the ability to rent out vacant condo's. Gents, am I wrong about this? Only the condo unit owners can rent (sublet), and often do thru airbnb (or such). The unit owner or his representative meets you or has you pick up a key from the concierge. The condo / concierge is not responsible for the room being like a rent-able hotel room. If there is a problem with the unit, you contact the owner (or his rep) to fix it, not the concierge desk. OTOH, Birch Tower in Malate has several organizations (on different floors) that rent out rooms.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input gentlemen! Regarding my low # of posts on here, I was quite active on another board that was shut down earlier this year unfortunately. I try to travel to SEA once a year so will post more often.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2238095]Thank you. This nicely rounds up the review.

While the practice of collecting ID at the reception is pretty standard, it offers the monger some benefit only if the staff actually call back the monger in the room to check if everything is OK and it is fine to hand over the ID to the girl and send her on her way. Else, it is just a waste of time and a process with no outcome. Not uncommon in the Philippines. If you don't like it, don't come here. Standard response. Geez![/QUOTE]At one hotel in Surigao when I checked out of the hotel I was given the hotel photocopies of all the girls' ID cards. I didn't keep them.