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I went on Karlas website and they advertise R120 for 2 hours. Has anybody used this website and can you tell me if there is additional negotiations once the GDP arrives? Sounds real good at R120. Maybe too good. I'm thinking maybe the R120 is for their two hours time and anything additional is extra as negotiated. Anyone on the board who can answer this?
MCruddy
[QUOTE=MCruddy; 1123307]I went on Karlas website and they advertise R120 for 2 hours. Has anybody used this website and can you tell me if there is additional negotiations once the GDP arrives? Sounds real good at R120. Maybe too good. I'm thinking maybe the R120 is for their two hours time and anything additional is extra as negotiated. Anyone on the board who can answer this?
MCruddy[/QUOTE]Karlas has been around for ages. They have 2 offices. 1 in Flemengo and 1 in Tijuca. The 2 hours is indeed R$120 but yiu must pay taxi for the girl both ways. From Tijuca to Copacabana the cab fare is around R$25 each way, hence a 2 hour ride will cost all up R$120 + R$50=R$170 From Flemengo it is probably R$12 cheaper each way. Anal is included in the price no extras there. The only extras I believe they charge is for a "switching fee". A switching fee is when the girl bangs more than 1 guy, normally in a party type of a deal. The switching fee is R$50.
Like any escort agency these days photoshop is heavily used, hence you may not get exactly what appears in the photos. Out of a dozen or so girls at the Tijuca office there are at least 2 very appealing girls. I am not going to say their names because some things you need to keep to yourself and I think I give more than my fair share of info to this board.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1123210]Here what transpired last night and this morning up to about 2 hours ago: like As mentioned before, I tend to hit Luomos on Sunday because most other things are dead tben. I left Centro and headed for Copa, arriving at Luomo at about 6:30. As discussed by others, if you get there before 7 the R70 entrada is halved. So 40 minutes in cabine then works out to 270+35= R315. I sat at to the bar for about an hour chilling, then was approached by Bella, one of the mullatas there. She told me that she had just come back to work at Luomo a week ago. I digged deeper because I always wonder what GP's do after they get off the program. She claims she quit Luomo to be a flight attendant, something about Toronto, etc. I'm not really buying it due to her poor English skills. So enoug with the talk, and we started making out at the bar. Then I then noticed that she has some funky stuff going on with her skin like localized bumpy rashes on her chest and wide swathes elsewhere. At this point I decided I didn't want eczema or whatever that was, so was getting ready to shake her. But then she calls over another mullata, who said her name was Mambu or something. Nice girl with a cute face. I'm not really into dark girls, but in Rio I end up doing a lot of them and this was going to be one. So I negotiated with her for the usual BBBJ, pics, etc. She claimed she would do BBBJ and I could fuck her anal, but said that pictures were prohibited at Luomo (huh?). I thought, whatever, I am a little sick of ruining moments to capture pics that I don't need anyway. So off we went.
We got to the cabine and were there about 10 minutes making out, until her pussy went from dry to nice and slippery. At this point I noticed her sneaking a condom off the table, and she swung around to sit on my face for 69. I understood that we was about to cheat on the BJ, so told her no condom for that. She didn't say anything, and I could tell she was doing the best possible get the thing on without me detecting it. Again I called her on it. But I did like her, so I decided to give it a spin. I got out from under and flipped her for mish, but I gave her a few pokes and then started remembering how in 2009 the same thing happened to me with the CBJ at Luomo, and how I'the sworn never to let that happen again at that price level. So I took the comdom off and layed down and asked for the BBBJ again, telling her that we had an agreeent in the boite. She said no, that's my friend Bella that does does that. Not happening. So I told her I needed another girl to do what she had promised to do, then put on my robe and went to the front desk. Just like I'the been advocating here before, we should politely not stand for these bait and switch acts at termas prices.
So I got to the front desk and told the girl the situation. She insisted on knowing specifically what didn't the girl do that I expected to her to do. So I told her the situation. Then she told me that BBBJ is prohibited, none of the girls do it, and that if the manager knew any girl was doing that, the girl would be fired. I told her that I am not new to termas and I know better than that, so she should just give me a girl that will provide, or charge half the price since I did half the session. At this point she called the manager out, the manager called the girl, then gave me the 2 following explanations for the broken agreeement, neither of which mentioned any prohibition on BBBJ in the casa.
1. I am an unsafe customer. I went down on her and that shows that I am unsafe. What? She sat on my face at one point.
2. She thinks something is the matter with my dick. I explained to the manager that it's a circumcision scar and if she would like to inspect she is welcome. I have paperwork to show that I am clean.
So all of this ended in me not popping at Luomo, but at least they only charged me for the time used. I was being polite but serious about ir, but apparently now I am a pariah at Luomo. . To be continued. [/QUOTE]Wow! To go that far for that type of BS.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1123210]So I got to the front desk and told the girl the situation. She insisted on knowing specifically what didn't the girl do that I expected to her to do. So I told her the situation. Then she told me that BBBJ is prohibited, none of the girls do it, and that if the manager knew any girl was doing that, the girl would be fired. I told her that I am not new to termas and I know better than that, so she should just give me a girl that will provide, or charge half the price since I did half the session. .[/QUOTE]WOW! There is no limit to the bullshit they will try to feed you! I am so glad you told her to cut the shit because you are a frequent visitor to Rio and you know damn well there is not prohibition on BBJs! Good Job! Thanks for standing up and complaining!
Thanks BB.
What I meant by dinner was going out to eat after the Termas has closed. I usually go to these places in the rut and on an empty stomach. I would like to try grabbing something to eat at a 24 hours place and then heading back to my room for some more loving. It could be fun. I will try to do what you said.
[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1123285]MC & Luomo are both open 7 days a week now. Cab fare from the Marriot is like R$8. 00 or so. Go to my bubba report section and print a map and walk it. Probably 10 minutes walk to MC, maybe 15 to Loumo.
Getting a girl to come over after her shift has ended is not that hard, just a matter of coming up with a number. I am thinking R$200 would be a maximum, probably get it for slightly less if there is some sort of chemistry.
Getting a girl to go out with you for dinner is more of a logistical challenge. Basically a terma girl must work at least 5 days a week, maybe 6. Hence on her day off she may have family plans or whatever. For her to take the day off from work she will have to pay a fine to the Terma. Fines can be expensive, hence unless you want to spend up big it doesn't make much sense to pay her fine and pay her as well, could be R$400 +. You might get lucky in that a girl you like just happens to be free the night you want her but I would look for better options. [/QUOTE]
Wow what bull shit! I planed on L'umo on Sunday but due to this I am going to pass! This is just pure bull shit!
[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1123210]Not happening. So I told her I needed another girl to do what she had promised to do, then put on my robe and went to the front desk. Just like I'the been advocating here before, we should politely not stand for these bait and switch acts at termas prices.
So I got to the front desk and told the girl the situation. She insisted on knowing specifically what didn't the girl do that I expected to her to do. So I told her the situation. Then she told me that BBBJ is prohibited, none of the girls do it, and that if the manager knew any girl was doing that, the girl would be fired. I told her that I am not new to termas and I know better than that, so she should just give me a girl that will provide, or charge half the price since I did half the session. At this point she called the manager out, the manager called the girl, then gave me the 2 following explanations for the broken agreeement, neither of which mentioned any prohibition on BBBJ in the casa.
1. I am an unsafe customer. I went down on her and that shows that I am unsafe. What? She sat on my face at one point.
2. She thinks something is the matter with my dick. I explained to the manager that it's a circumcision scar and if she would like to inspect she is welcome. I have paperwork to show that I am clean.
So all of this ended in me not popping at Luomo, but at least they only charged me for the time used. I was being polite but serious about ir, but apparently now I am a pariah at Luomo. . To be continued. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;1123398]WOW! There is no limit to the bullshit they will try to feed you! I am so glad you told her to cut the shit because you are a frequent visitor to Rio and you know damn well there is not prohibition on BBJs! Good Job! Thanks for standing up and complaining![/QUOTE]So now there will be no more BBBJs in Luomo! Thanks fellas!
[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1123486]So now there will be no more BBBJs in Luomo! Thanks fellas![/QUOTE]Clarify my statement. These termas should not be allowed to get away with poor service. The girls in these places are getting real ridiculous and spoiled. I think quality control has gone down the drain, by the termas hiring girls who will do anything to pull clients even lying about the agreed upon service. In particular, the way the girls sit around bored rather than greeting. Thanks for not letting the girl get away with her BS.
Here is some pricing info from an early December 2010 post. Can anyone comment as to tha accuracy of this post? It sounds like at Monte Carlo you have to pay a cabine fee. Is this included in the price listed? Any other hidden fees?
[QUOTE=Azn Safado; 1099266]I just got back from Rio this week. I was there in August and already the prices have risen yet again.
Here are the new prices for your basic 40 minute session:
Luomo: R$315.
Monte Carlo: R$320.
Solarium: R$350.
Possible discounts for a 40 minute session:
Luomo: R$315. R$35 = R$280 (Every day. As long as you enter before 7p)
Monte Carlo: R$320. R$70 = R$250 (Tuesdays. Coupon for discount offcabine)
Solarium: R$350. R$40 = R$310 (Mondays. Coupon for discount off cabine)
I think all these termas were R$310 in August. So Solarium had the biggest jump. It is now priced as much as what Centaurus was about 3 years ago. By the World Cup, I wouldn't be surprised to see Solarium at current Centaurus prices, which is R$450. Then Centaurus will probably around R$600.
I gather from reading other posts that Balcony girls are asking 300R but can be had for 150-100R and Barberella girls want 400R for the night and 250R for an hour. Do you think Barberlla girls could pass as your GF and sneak by the guards at the marriot?
I love the Garota's of Rio but these prices are not a bargin compared to the 65 Euro entry and 50 Euro per 1/2 hour session of the German FKKs. At the FKK's you can do three or 4 different girls.
I am seeing that 1USD = 1. 67 R (1 Euro = 2. 25 R) but I know at the airport I will get less. What is the best way to get the best exchange rate so I can maximize the # of Garota's I see.
Hi!
I'll be in Rio for the first time next week. Right now I'm thinking I'll hit L'Uomo on the 18th night and 4x4 on the 19th. If anyone would like to show a newbie around, drop me a line at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]
K
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For the price Termas charge now you really need to get a mind blowing experience to justify the cost. Really friggin mind blowing! As I have posted a number of times this year, there are tons of great little prives in Centro and beyond where you can bang a surprising attractive girl for as little as R$60. I went to Tigressas this week ([url]http://www.tigresastijucanas.com/[/url]) , R$60 for 40 minutes. The rooms are just as nice as Luomo's and there are some cute girls. I actually went the hour for R$80, being the big spender that I am, and banged Chris. Chris would be in the top 5 of girls at Lumo as far as looks goes. Her service was above average, not mind blowing though, I won't repeat. However for R$80, you really can't complain versus R$300 at luomo! I would rather do 5 Chris's now rather than 1 luomo chic. (5x R$60=R$300=40mins at Luomo).
I used to think Sperto was kind of cheap going to all these out of the way places down in Centro. Now I know exactly what his game is. You can get the same quality girls for less than R$100. Now I think that Sperto is the MAN!
[QUOTE=Ipanema Carioca;1123493]Clarify my statement. These termas should not be allowed to get away with poor service. The girls in these places are getting real ridiculous and spoiled. I think quality control has gone down the drain, by the termas hiring girls who will do anything to pull clients even lying about the agreed upon service. In particular, the way the girls sit around bored rather than greeting. Thanks for not letting the girl get away with her BS.[/QUOTE]I cringe whenever I have to go to a Copa termas. (Sundays) My first termas experiences were in Sao Paulo 6 years ago. Then, the exchange to USD was 2.75 and R100 got you an hour with a hottie and the following: BBBJ, rim, FS condom optional, and CIM. TLN with any girl for the price of a session, and it was real TLN until termas opening time the next day. Maybe Rio was never like that, I don't know. But I got to think it must have been even better and has just gone downhill even more. I'm in Rio now, and I'm still sticking with my previous recommendation that people go elsewhere for vacations. My flight here is free to me, if I had to pay for a flight it would be to SEA. Given the FKK Partytreffs in Germany, and the scene repoted in Barcelona, I hardly see why Europeans would come all the way to Rio for a P4P frenzy.
Here is the latest installment. When I left off I was leaving Copa at 6:30 AM Monday. I didn't get to bed until noon. Was sorted of bombed out and couldn't sleep then. I woke up at about 3 pm and hit Casa Behar Cambio, mentioned before in the currency thread, exchange rate is 1. 67 to the USD. Now having more cash, I hit Rua Ouvidor 130 sala 707 based on previous experiences there 6 months ago with Marcella, a tall loira who took CIM. The place is inside the 130 shopping center, right the left elevator to the 7th floor and go left. This time there were 6 girls. I took Mel, a mulata. It was R50 for 30 minutes. Good sex but everything is covered. No CIM finish was available, so I didn't pop, just warming up.
From there, I walked to Centro Lazer 13 (13 Praca Olavo Bilac) as recommended by others recently. It's posted R40/30m, R75 / hr and incremental pricing under and between these. There are 2 signs that say Praca Olavo Bilac, so watch for the numbers and you can't miss the sign. I sessioned with Natasha, who I interviewed to make sure I got BBBJ. The BBBJ was okay, but the girl acted sort of lame, for example it took her about a minute and a half to get the condom on. I suspect that most never use them outside of work. Then the sex wasn't so great because she would not DFK during sex. So I got bored and my sleepy little friend lost wood a couple times, so I had here suck it back hard again both times. BBBJ was better than the lay. But what's new, I find that the case 80% of the time. R40 30 minutes with BBBJ several times, it's a good deal.
I went back to the hotel and fell asleep until 11 pm. Then I went to Club Florida. What a sausage factory last night. Maybe 6 girls and 40 guys. I paid the R10, drank one R7 beer and left. Expensive beer. There have been a ton of young Chinese guys and Italian guys in the Praca Maua area this week. Perhaps off ships or something. Annoying bastards. Very giddy, patrolling around talking to all the girls and blocking the view of the dancers but never sessioning.
So I got out of there fast and walked to Rio Branco to catch a bus to Copa. Back to Balcony to see if I can pull any late night R100 TLN girls again. As usual, the place was packed with about 50:50 mongers to girls. I have to say that 80% of the guys mongering look like total dorks and rejects. It is almost as bad as San Jose, Costa Rica. The mullet is still in style in Copacabana, as is the hiked up shorts with white socks, braided belt, and tucked shirt. I contrast this with Centro where in even in the nastiest shacks, the mongers generally seem normal looking sometimes even classy. I begin to wonder if there is not something fundamentally wrong with this scene in Copa, where natural selection is totally turned on its head. There is a reason why good looking girls don't go for 60 year old guys with mullets, bermuda shorts and boat shoes unless money is involved. Personally, I'm glad that foreign mongers don't come into my neighborhood taking up all the decent looking easy girls, keeping them up all night, giving them disease, making them think that they are owed money for sex, etc. :)
So anyway, having already had 2 girls and not being in a rush to session again. I sat there for about 2 hours watching guys and GdPs on the perimeter. Very entertaining. Most of the guys are drunk and acting like kids in a candy store. Once I heard a 'Woo. Rio, baby yeah! ' GDP's are gathering in small groups and pointing at guys, suitable targets. Some Brasilian guys are trying to work game for low prices. I sat down in front of a girl who had taken up a place in the middle of the canopied area. Very nice looking girl, dark morena. 8/10, medium frame, perfect tits, beautiful face, looks very much like my favorite girl from the late great Flavia Masssagems circa 2009. She spoke no English, wasn't dressed like a ho (by Rio standards) , never patrolled, never drank anything the whole time. I wondered what was the matter with her, doesn't she want to sell? Only 1 guy came up to her in 2 hours. So at about 4 AM, I decided the time for high prices had passed and started making small talk. She claims she comes there twice per month. I guess I believe it, because she doesn't seem to understand that had she been walking around during that time, just smiling, some zealous tourist would have paid her R500 for ST. After talking for a while, she finally she got around to the sell, and said she wanted to go to Centro with me TLN for R100. Ok. No real detailed interview, I was ready to go and see what happens. So we walked to NS Copa and caught the 455 onibus to Presidente Vargas. Tried hailing a cab on Rio Branco at 4:30 AM. Not possible. I walked her all the way back to Praca Tiradentes. She didn't like Rua the Carioca and wanted to walk fast. I was wondering if she might get scared and bug out, but I don't think she really has no idea where she was at anyway. She lives in Bangu and says she doesn't know Centro, didn't even know where Carioca station was. So we got back to the hotel and got some drinks from the lobby, then upstairs for shower and a GFE fuck but with everything covered. Ended up shooting on her perfect tits. I found no tattoos on her. Amazing. Even the schoolmarms and other bland girls of Brasil are covered in graffiti now, so it was a surpise to me for a GDP not to have any. Anyway, she promised another round in the morning, but we never saw the rest of the morning. Her cell rang at 1 pm and woke us up. I heard her saying to someone that she had went with a guy and was in Centro, then explain why Centro and not Copacabana. Then she was in a hurry to go. Under the circumstances and hour, it was okay by me. R100, 1:15 pm, and she was out the door, no mention of a continuation by either of us. If I keep trying, I'll might find a keeper for repeats. But my service standards are high so it takes a lot of garotas to find the repeat.
Today I went back to Centro Lazer 13 (13 Praca Olavo Bilac) to see if I could find a girl that not only does BBBJ with the FS, but also takes CIM. I arrived at 1 pm. Total sausage factory. 2 girls and maybe 10 guys. So I left and went to 15 on the same street. This place is a dive. 6 girls, I interviewed the best looking one and she said CBJ. Beers are R5 for a half liter can and sessions are R42/30. I left there with my beer and went back to 13. Smoking is allowed in 13. At about 2 pm, garotas started to roll in. One was a 9/10 loira, but she says CBJ so I couldn't. I took another, Daniele. Not a looker. 6/10 at best but she says BBBJ will be provided with an hour session, R75. Marginal looks, like not really turning me on at all. But I went for the hell of it. The session was GFE with lots of ball work (cat bath) too. I've noticed that most girls on this trip are doing ball work. On past trips, I never really got much of that. I can take it or leave it, but it's a nice touch. Just remember that if you kiss one of these girls. 70% certainty that she had some guy's sweaty nutsack in her mouth 20 minutes before. So if you're queasy, know that before arriving here. I saw the mama's list there, and it showed the hot loira Mel had been fucked 4 times before 3 pm. In Centro casas, especially at the apartments, the girls often take back-to-back sessions. It might as well be a Partytreff. And some of these like Rua Ouvidor 130/707 have very spartan bathing facilities. Like a bidet hose and a sink. In these weather conditions, no a / see, sweaty as hell, some places are like herpes central. So although you can't often detect, at least try to check it before you wreck it.
Leaving there, I passed Club 520 at Sete de Setembro 520 and stopped in. I don't think it's been reported here. It's a small place. 6 girls, I'the give it a Sperto Grade C on the quality of the girls. 2 of the 6 were doable. 1 should have been put out to pasture. 1R / minute, you know what to expect. If you want quality, think R2 / min and up.
Then I went to Termas 502 on Tuesday night, around 8 pm. It was my first time there. I had plans to go there and check it out, then go to Bar 22 and session something and come back to 502 later. Based on a previous post, I thought there was no entrada, so I walked in and looked around. When I left there was a dispute because the mama insisted that I pay a R20 entrada that was posted on the wall. They let me walk in and never said anything, bastards, then gave me a hard time. R20 entrada is mandatory is walk in the boite and includes 3 beers. I disputed that because I was literally in the boite about 20 seconds. At that point I turned around to go out, but the bouncer blocked the door and they told me I had to pay R20 to leave. Fuck it. I got the tab card and went in to stay. There were about 12 girls for a good ratio to mongers. I don't think I've ever seen so many asses shaking, dancing, girls slapping their pussies, tugging their pussy lips at mongers and showing their assholes. You name it. Not even at high time at 4x4. The funk blasts so loud on the sound system, the bass makes your clothes shake on your body. Almost all blacks and mulatas. So I figured that I might as well go ahead and pick something and screw it. R120/40 mins. I picked a mulata that had a good attitude and seemed energetic, with lots of dancing. I took her back and it was outstanding, despite being all covered. GFE, cycling positions, deep throat, and dedication to multiple pops right up until the knock on the door. Not many girls fuck like that. Top 5 I think. I asked her about doing TLN later in the week and she said sure come in and let me know in advance, then meet me outside on the street. So we'll see.
[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1123738]The session was GFE with lots of ball work (cat bath) too. I've noticed that most girls on this trip are doing ball work. On past trips, I never really got much of that. I can take it or leave it, but it's a nice touch. Just remember that if you kiss one of these girls. 70% certainty that she had some guy's sweaty nutsack in her mouth 20 minutes before. So if you're queasy, know that before arriving here[/QUOTE]I like your reports. Well written. Just one thing, why would a ball sack being in their mouths be any different than having a cock in their mouths? 20 Minutes before you bang them they have probably had a lot of things in their mouths!
502. It definitely does have a cover. R$20 which is applied to your consumption. When they have "festas" there, it is a straight cover charge without any consumption applied to the bill. I believe they wave the cover before 5pm, the only problem, there is very few girls there at that time.
Check your PM before you go there again.