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[QUOTE=JonesLover;2760185]It sounds unbelievable but I swear it's true. The Tacloban girls all bought the same stopwatch. After several days of chatting, now everyone wants to come to me and I am in serious trouble. I began to tell someone to postpone a few days and she was offended by replying that I am already with another girl.

But I have around 10 girls who all want to come in 2-3 days. I do not know what to do. I'm afraid of ruining everything. Such a thing had never happened to me. I have clear ideas, indeed, very clear. I came to Leyte island to get some GF experence. It seems that I have succeeded, but unfortunately I am afraid of ruining everything in a few days, because they all piled up together in 2-3 days.[/QUOTE]Try to pair them, that reduces the workload and improves the girl / day ratio.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2760185]But I have around 10 girls who all want to come in 2-3 days. I do not know what to do. I'm afraid of ruining everything. Such a thing had never happened to me. I have clear ideas, indeed, very clear. I came to Leyte island to get some GF experence. It seems that I have succeeded, but unfortunately I am afraid of ruining everything in a few days, because they all piled up together in 2-3 days.[/QUOTE]Jones! Its been 10 days. Your last post indicates you were on the verge of a naughty breakthru. DD remains transfixed (if only my Johnson could remain that way). Did you ruin everything? Did you vaxx anyone? Someone small, and brown?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2762894]Jones! Its been 10 days. Your last post indicates you were on the verge of a naughty breakthru. DD remains transfixed (if only my Johnson could remain that way). Did you ruin everything? Did you vaxx anyone? Someone small, and brown?[/QUOTE]A lot of girls are writing to me and if I don't answer, they keep writing. I'm not rude because I don't answer, it's because I'm with a GF. A beautiful girl that I could choose from many girls. She is 22 years old and I have never in my life touched boobs so hard as stone. They stand straight forward like pinstripes. In the beginning she was very shy and now she has turned out to be a real poeca. Her father never lets her leave the house, so she made up her mind to go and see her sister, and so she'll stay with me for a week.

When she gets home, I've got another one ready right away. At the beginning I had to work a lot and I was anxious about not finding anyone. But now I have too many.

This trip has been good to me with applying the standard MO that has been described in these pages so many times.

Tonight however I think I just needed a break. Check that has popped up on my (fake) Facebook profile. I chatted her over a couple of days and tod her I was arriving her place later in the week. Meanwhile I was already in her town and fucking my way through the top of the Tinder hits. Even here it's possible to have new hits at 5 pm and meeting for dinner and sex later.

Well scheduled meetup for 6. Even at 5:30 earlier than she needed to be she was on her way by trike.

She arrived and gave me a brief hug. Up to the room she sat on the bed and then announced she was hungry let's go out for food. I know that if hunger is in play then nothing happens, so I agreed and we headed out on the bike. I took her past a few places which were popular with Filipino but they were not for her. It was obvious she had a place in mind but she wouldn't say, just giving me some rather late directions. SO communication was not a strong suit. Pleasant but hard work conversation. This wasn't going well.

Back in the room, over time I killed the lights, killed the wifi, got her into bed not before which she had put ON an extra coat to go to bed. I had a sunk cost so I went for a good night kiss to see if that would get anything underway. Zero. I said she should leave and in a spiteful way let her catch the multiple trikes home. Hopefully that might save a future monger from her.

Back in the room I sent a random message to my earlier Plan be that I had burned off when Plan A had confirmed her arrival. Plan be was still alive. Does indicate the scarcity of foreigners here. Plan be now included a friend whom would be tagging along for drinks. How bad can this be. So my girl was OK, average looks but Plan be's friend was super cute and finely proportioned. The girls liked the beer and a rhum each but in the end had a workplace curfew and triked home with delivering me a promise. It would have been so much easier one-on-one but the friend had to be considered.

Resigned back the room, had a random Tinder hit within a few kms. Some good banter which just petered out with a vague future promise.

Time for a rest day. Might uproot and move town. Maybe I have taken all the low hanging fruits from this place.

From the more recent Westy files. During mid-pandemic, small provincial cuteness was busy making another. . . Small provincial cuteness. A few weeks later she dropped a healthy baby girl.

Not sure if I posted this before. This took place several years ago. Something happened recently that reminded me of this event. A re-post if I posted it previously.

The front story. The first several months of lockdown in the province was pretty harsh. Everything closed, transportation was nearly non-existent, my local honies were afraid to leave their houses, and such. Not much happening. Then things lightened up. One of my regulars (short, age 24) started showing up and spending a good deal of time with me (the others were afraid to go outside their compounds). The regular started bringing a friend to my place (tall, age 29). The friend did not become a playmate, just friends. The girls would spend the entire day at my condo, enjoying the wifi and aircon, YT on the big screen TV, and of course Jolliebee chicken / rice. Over the course of several months, the two girls were probably at my place from 12-24 hours about twice a week. They routinely cooked and cleaned, or we ordered Food Panda or Grab food, or such, and we watched a lot of telenovelas (Halik, yuck). The friend, when spending the night, slept on the couch (or sometimes the floor, which she liked). All good.

The back story. After lockdown started, almost all the unattached foreigners high-tailed it back home. There were only a few foreingers left in my residence after a few months. We congregated in the lobby in the morning, as there was always a coffee pot going for guests. I struck up conversation a few times in the lobby with another foreigner. I remember him as tall, lean, always dressed well, dazling eyes, charming, and early 70's. I began looking forward to chatting with him in the lobby. He had come to the province to get away from his NCR pinay wife, which he said he did sometimes. He did not expect to get caught in a lockdown situation where he could not get back on an airplane or ferry.

Back to the front story. One day my regular and I went to the lobby to escort the inbound friend into the building. In the lobby at the elevator the three of us stepped inside, and before the elevator door closed the foreigner stepped into the elevator on one side, facing me on the other side. We exchanged pleasantries. The elevator stopped and he got off on his floor. As the doors closed and the machine continued up to my floor, both girls gushed and broke out laughing, kibbitzing, chica-chica, slapping at each other with their hands. Off the elevator and in the hallway they could barely stand up, laughing so hard. Ladies, WHAT has brought you to such joy, that does not involve my willy? Is my zipper down *again*? The friend barely composed herself and gushed: "I want to sex with him!" Bajesus ladies lets step into my unit first.

Once inside: Did I hear you correctly? The foreigner in the elevator? The friend: "Yes I want to f*ck him!" What! What! Have you seen him before? Do you know him? "No but I love his eyes. I seen his eyes!" Oh jeez. "There is more hahaha". What? My girl: "I want to f*ck him also". Both girls burst into peels of laughter. They fell on the bed laughing. Wait, you BOTH want to f*ck him? "Yes did you see him? Sooooo pogi he is". The friend: "I will have his baby!" This laughter and banter continued for several minutes. So, ladies, after just 30 seconds in an elevator with him, you want to have his baby?. Is that right? My girl: "I don't want to have his baby. But f*ck him yes". The friend: "Hahaha f*ck him and f*ck him and have his baby!" That's all it takes? Pretty eyes? Ladies he is over SEVENTY. "Foreigner guy also". So, pretty eyes and white skin and you melt down into one big pussy and womb? "Haha yes!" More peels of laughter.

OK, so I should tell him that you (the friend) will like to meet? A coffee and then back to his unit? "Yes!" Um, what of your boyfriend? Don't you have a boyfie? "We break. No sex until now. I was not seryoso to my boyfriend". But you are serious to f*cking a COMPLETE STRANGER? "Haaaa mucho gusto!" Check.

The next day I didn't see the foreigner, he missed morning lobby coffee. Also didn't see him in the lobby at all during the daytime. A few days later I was at the concierge desk for something and asked if they'd seen the him. "Then he left. Moved away. A few days ago. We got him a taxi". Hmmm, ok. How dare he not stick around long enough to have my pinay friend use him to f*ck herself preggers.

And with that, the foreigner was later probably stuck with his asawa again, and the friend didn't get a Phil / white baby. Who would have known that white skin and blue eyes would make pinay go weak in the knees. If my vaxxing clinic weren't going great guns, I might need to shed a KG or two, and get some of those fake blue contact lenses. . .

I will be in Boracay next week, would anyone of you like to share some information or tips?

Good vaxxin' in the province recently fellas. The road less traveled.

I have booked my flights and am now booking hotels (Penthouse in Angeles City and Garden City in Makati so far). Sabang is proving a bit of a challenge, I want casual but clean, near the beach and the "action". Price isn't a big deal, anything under $100 a night is okay (if nice) but I'm really not looking for fancy and don't mind saving money.

On the surface Big Apple Dive Resort looks great but reports both here and other places suggest that the management's been going down hill for a number of years now. And one report mentioned that there are no safes and he had $400 stolen (he assumed by housekeeping). That's a no go for me. Papa Fred's looks interesting, but they're sold out on the big sites and when I went to their website (from the link on their Facebook page) it installed Malware on my computer. BEWARE. Capt'and Greg's? Good reviews, a bit shabby looking, but I like the location. Only thing is they don't seem to have a pool and I'd really like a pool. Atlantis Dive Resort looks nice but too family oriented for a punter like me. Montani Resort looks like a possibility. Too far? Girl friendly?

Any thoughts greatly appreciated. I will write reports after my trip. Promise.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2793088]Any thoughts greatly appreciated. I will write reports after my trip. Promise.[/QUOTE]I would recommend Dream Hotel. It's on girlie bar alley. It has a room safe. Around $50 a night. Newer hotel on top of that new go-go bar. Comfortable beds. Mountainside rooms are less expensive and quiet. Beachview rooms are more expensive, with a balcony, but it gets noisy at night time. This hotel has no pool. But it does have a rooftop bar / restaurant with a pool table.

If you want a pool, Angelyn's Dive Resort is ok. Pool is small, but nice, right on the beach. Hotel is located on girlie bar alley. Prices are reasonable. But the rooms are basic, just ok, not plush.

These hotels are listed on Agoda.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2793097]I would recommend Dream Hotel. It's on girlie bar alley. It has a room safe. Around $50 a night. Newer hotel on top of that new go-go bar. Comfortable beds. [/QUOTE]Thanks so much. I saw Dream Hotel on Agoda (they seem to be pushing it) but didn't know anything about it. All sounds good except I'd like a pool. Angelyn's has a pool but some of the reviews are less than glowing. Guess I have to decide.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2793088]I have booked my flights and am now booking hotels (Penthouse in Angeles City and Garden City in Makati so far)..[/QUOTE]Given the number of options in Sabang and that you are undecided, I would just book a room for 2 nights then extend / move once you have arrived and seen everything in person. Many hotels really suffered during Covid so old reviews may be totally worthless. Remember that hotels and rooms in Big and Little LaLaguna, while not on blow row, are still only a couple of minutes walk away and much quieter.

The Big Apple is a dump but has character if you are looking for being close to the bars, access to freelancers, a big pool, good food and an accommodating attitude to err activities on site. The pool is often used for a lot more than dive training at 3 am. I never worried about security after taking the most basic precautions.

El Galleon is one of the more upmarket places, though it is starting to show its age in some areas. A nice pool, excellent food and a very professional dive centre. Get a room at pool level. Walking up the hill 20 times a day is a killer.

As I said, no one insists that you must book a room for your whole stay.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2793088]I have booked my flights and am now booking hotels (Penthouse in Angeles City and Garden City in Makati so far). Sabang is proving a bit of a challenge, I want casual but clean, near the beach and the "action". Price isn't a big deal, anything under $100 a night is okay (if nice) but I'm really not looking for fancy and don't mind saving money.
On the surface Big Apple Dive Resort looks great but reports both here and other places suggest that the management's been going down hill for a number of years now. And one report mentioned that there are no safes and he had $400 stolen (he assumed by housekeeping). That's a no go for me. Papa Fred's looks interesting, but they're sold out on the big sites and when I went to their website (from the link on their Facebook page) it installed Malware on my computer. BEWARE. Capt'and Greg's? Good reviews, a bit shabby looking, but I like the location. Only thing is they don't seem to have a pool and I'd really like a pool. Atlantis Dive Resort looks nice but too family oriented for a punter like me. Montani Resort looks like a possibility. Too far? Girl friendly?
Any thoughts greatly appreciated. I will write reports after my trip. Promise.[/QUOTE]Sabang went off my Phil list pre COVID. Prices are ridiculous and competing with one week Korean millionairres is a contest you are not going to win.

Re location everywhere is close. Meaning less than 5 min walk anywhere. Montani is good for accom & Jack Daniels for food. Esp ribs. To die fo, worth the walk up the short hill. .

Big Apple. Yeah a dump but straegically located and food is passable.

Best bar. CoCo Lips.

Also bit of a hassle getting there.

Agree with Gof- book room for 2 days hunt around- also walk in rates prob cheaper.

I took the advice and booked Montani Resort for the first two nights. Then we'll see.

This is my first trip to the PI and believe me I was nearly scared away by all the talk of the Koreans. I guess time will tell. I'm hoping that after ten days in AC and Manila I'll be ready to wind down a bit in Sabang anyway. But again, we shall see.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2793291]This is my first trip to the PI and believe me I was nearly scared away by all the talk of the Koreans. I guess time will tell. [/QUOTE]Don't worry about the Koreans too much. The girls that chase them are often the top of the top looks-wise but they are truely damaged goods after being consistently over paid for poor performance. You don't want them any way and there are plenty of others to choose from.

The one thing Sabang is famous for is that the Korean guys will arrive and literally empty out a bar 5 minutes after opening. Go early and if you see someone you like, don't procrastinate or she will be gone later. It's perfectly ok to pay a barfine, say that you will pick her up later and continue the bar crawl.

Enjoy. G.

Hi, I would like to visit General Santos in a few months. Has anyone been there and can you tell me anything?

I'm not looking for bars or discos, I'm just looking to rest in a nice rented apartment with some pretty regular girls that I'll get to know on social networks and get some GF experiences.

I would like to ask 2 questions:

Is GenSan a bit dangerous like in past years?

Is it easy to fuck some regular girl or is it more complicated than other Filipino places like Davao?

Thanks for some info.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2796415]Hi, I would like to visit General Santos in a few months. Has anyone been there and can you tell me anything?

I'm not looking for bars or discos, I'm just looking to rest in a nice rented apartment with some pretty regular girls that I'll get to know on social networks and get some GF experiences.

I would like to ask 2 questions:

Is GenSan a bit dangerous like in past years?

Is it easy to fuck some regular girl or is it more complicated than other Filipino places like Davao?

Thanks for some info.[/QUOTE]I had a g / f there in Gen san for a few years so I went there often, The Plaza is nice for walking and Tuna Park is ok as well. Swimming is nice at Gen San View and there is a nice beach in Sarangani.

They have some good malls as well. 3 different ones. Taxies are not available so be prepared to ride Trikes or jeepneys. I never felt threatened while I was there but my g / f said we will never go to the province areas, so best to stay in town. Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2796639]They have some good malls as well. 3 different ones. Taxies are not available so be prepared to ride Trikes or jeepneys. I never felt threatened while I was there but my g / f said we will never go to the province areas, so best to stay in town. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your interesting reply. Could you suggest a good area near a mall (walking distance)? I'd like to rent an apartment there. Thank you again.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2796791]Thank you for your interesting reply. Could you suggest a good area near a mall (walking distance)? I'd like to rent an apartment there. Thank you again.[/QUOTE]I always stayed at the nice hotel across from the Plaza park. Can't recall the name now. Its close to the Catholic church. Has a free western breakfast that's tasty. Not the cheapest hotel in gen san upscale and clean and worth it.

[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2796907]I always stayed at the nice hotel across from the Plaza park. Can't recall the name now. Its close to the Catholic church. Has a free western breakfast that's tasty. Not the cheapest hotel in gen san upscale and clean and worth it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't need a hotel. I never book a hotel. I need to know a good area near a Supermarket. Close to Plaza park is there a Supermarket?

[QUOTE=Gern;2759859]Did you stay in the area, Carlos Danger, or in downtown Bacolod. It appears that Goldenfield is about 3 km from downtown. Is it relatively easy to move from Goldenfield to downtown hotels or would you recommend staying in Goldenfield?[/QUOTE]Sorry for the delay in answering, haven't been there yet but planning a trip there this year. Wanted to get some info to make things easier and not waste time trying to figure stuff out once there.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2793118]Sabang went off my Phil list pre COVID. Prices are ridiculous and competing with one week Korean millionairres is a contest you are not going to win.

Re location everywhere is close. Meaning less than 5 min walk anywhere. Montani is good for accom & Jack Daniels for food. Esp ribs. To die fo, worth the walk up the short hill. .

Big Apple. Yeah a dump but straegically located and food is passable.

Best bar. CoCo Lips.

Also bit of a hassle getting there.

Agree with Gof- book room for 2 days hunt around- also walk in rates prob cheaper.[/QUOTE]I am in Sabang, met some pimp boys and the lowest price offered is 2500 pesos. I told him, I am paying 2500 pesos in Dubai for nice looking pinays for 1 hours 2 shot and I and used to get availability report every weekend. Then why should I pay same in the Philippines?

[QUOTE=Gajith;2802285]I am in Sabang, met some pimp boys and the lowest price offered is 2500 pesos. I told him, I am paying 2500 pesos in Dubai for nice looking pinays for 1 hours 2 shot and I and used to get availability report every weekend. Then why should I pay same in the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Why are you dealing with pimps? There are bargirls walking the street all day and most are available for some overtime. The best vantage point is a stool overlooking the pathway at BigApple.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2802321]Why are you dealing with pimps? There are bargirls walking the street all day and most are available for some overtime. The best vantage point is a stool overlooking the pathway at BigApple.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Philippines is probably the last place on Earth where you'd need to use the services of a pimp.

[QUOTE=Gajith;2802285]I am in Sabang, met some pimp boys and the lowest price offered is 2500 pesos. I told him, I am paying 2500 pesos in Dubai for nice looking pinays for 1 hours 2 shot and I and used to get availability report every weekend. Then why should I pay same in the Philippines?[/QUOTE]Is it really that cheap in Dubai? I always had the impression Dubai was expensive for everything.

[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2796639]. <Snip> I never felt threatened while I was there but my g / f said we will never go to the province areas, so best to stay in town. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Gensan is not a dangerous place, and I've been to a lot of the provinces outside of there including Glan, and way up in the mountains around Lake Sebu. Locals, like your girlfriend tend to exaggerator danger all over the Philippines I've noticed. In Davao they'll tell you don't go down to the Boulevard because it's too dangerous. But I think there's more petty crime like theft. I remember getting something stolen but I don't remember what it was. And you'll see the tricycles parked overnight are inside bamboo cages. That's the only place I've seen that.

You're right about the malls, they are clustered in one small area, and that's the center of the universe. But I think there's around five altogether, maybe six.

You don't really see swarms of hot girls but there are some scattered around. You'll get allot more looks from them than you will in Davao. People are super friendly, you still get a lot of hey Joe. There is an occasional foreigner but not many. That being said, hence the food sucks. What restaurants?

And that also means there aren't apartments and condos like you see in Davao. You're not going to see Avida Towers, Magallanes Residence and places like that. It's pretty much a Filipino city for Filipinos. But it's a good place imo, and yes, you can get in the water. It's not a stunning white sand beach, but there's sand and you can get wet. Better than Davao beach anyway. Oh yeah, and it's generally warmer if you like that. It can get hot.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;2796415]Hi, I would like to visit General Santos in a few months. Has anyone been there and can you tell me anything?

I'm not looking for bars or discos, I'm just looking to rest in a nice rented apartment with some pretty regular girls that I'll get to know on social networks and get some GF experiences.

I would like to ask 2 questions:

Is GenSan a bit dangerous like in past years?

Is it easy to fuck some regular girl or is it more complicated than other Filipino places like Davao?

Thanks for some info.[/QUOTE]Just returned from P. I. Spent 4 nights in GenSan. If this is your first time, I recommend the Greenleaf Hotel. 5 star. A little expensive, but walk across the street and you are in SM mall. Plenty of "fine dining" mall food, shopping, movies, etc. Get with a local girl and take a trike to Robinson's, which has a hotel, the Summit, across the street from the store, and KCC mall, which is the locals favorite. Book the Greenleaf online, or call them to make reservations. Lorraine works the check-in and is very friendly. They have a good breakfast w / most rooms, a pool, and inhouse massage and a few exercise machines. Just check the website.

Some people say that Boracay is a place where you take girls and many do but I say "why take sand to the beach?" I recently traveled to Boracay solo (May 2023). There are plenty of available girls there along the beach heading up towards Station 2. Kind of reminds me of a miniature Beach Road like Pattaya. They will approach you if you are walking along or in a group of guys. The action starts around Nigi Nigi Nu Noos. Some girls are sitting alone at the bar and some outside along the beach. It's best to go out around 10 pm. One shorty at the bar with a butterfly tattoo on her chest was quoting outrageous rates. She was cute but not worth that. She was at the bar chatting up guys every night that I went there. Other pickup spots are Exit, Epic Manila, OmBar, Galaxy Bar, MEGA, V Hub and Summer Place. Plenty of available women. They can be negotiated down to 2000 PHP.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2818421]Some people say that Boracay is a place where you take girls and many do but I say "why take sand to the beach?" I recently traveled to Boracay solo (May 2023). There are plenty of available girls there along the beach heading up towards Station 2. Kind of reminds me of a miniature Beach Road like Pattaya. They will approach you if you are walking along or in a group of guys. The action starts around Nigi Nigi Nu Noos. Some girls are sitting alone at the bar and some outside along the beach. It's best to go out around 10 pm. One shorty at the bar with a butterfly tattoo on her chest was quoting outrageous rates. She was cute but not worth that. She was at the bar chatting up guys every night that I went there. Other pickup spots are Exit, Epic Manila, OmBar, Galaxy Bar, MEGA, V Hub and Summer Place. Plenty of available women. They can be negotiated down to 2000 PHP.[/QUOTE]Ac thread mentions quality of girls now, Pattaya thread says its low season so only old and fugly. How was the quality there in Boracay.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2818421]Some people say that Boracay is a place where you take girls and many do but I say "why take sand to the beach?" I recently traveled to Boracay solo (May 2023). There are plenty of available girls there along the beach heading up towards Station 2. Kind of reminds me of a miniature Beach Road like Pattaya. They will approach you if you are walking along or in a group of guys. The action starts around Nigi Nigi Nu Noos. Some girls are sitting alone at the bar and some outside along the beach. It's best to go out around 10 pm. One shorty at the bar with a butterfly tattoo on her chest was quoting outrageous rates. She was cute but not worth that. She was at the bar chatting up guys every night that I went there. Other pickup spots are Exit, Epic Manila, OmBar, Galaxy Bar, MEGA, V Hub and Summer Place. Plenty of available women. They can be negotiated down to 2000 PHP.[/QUOTE]Great report and locations of pick up spots.

I personally still like to bring my own proven performers as I only stay 3 days. I like to relax and enjoy 3 sessions a day without going out on the hunt and perhaps getting disappointed. The ones I bring have been known and proven to me. I generally give them 5 k a day.

To each their own.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2818692]Great report and locations of pick up spots.

I personally still like to bring my own proven performers as I only stay 3 days. I like to relax and enjoy 3 sessions a day without going out on the hunt and perhaps getting disappointed. The ones I bring have been known and proven to me. I generally give them 5 k a day.

To each their own.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of places around the Phils where you can bring the same paid girl to be stuck with but Boracay was not one of those places for me. I enjoy the hunt and variety. But hey, to each their own.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2818580]Ac thread mentions quality of girls now, Pattaya thread says its low season so only old and fugly. How was the quality there in Boracay.[/QUOTE]I was in Pattaya recently just before my trip to the Phils. If you believe that there are only fat and ugly chick's in Pattaya right now because of a low season then you have never been to Pattaya regardless of the time of year. The fun doesn't stop in Pattaya, ever!

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2818580]How was the quality there in Boracay.
[/QUOTE]The talent in Boracay is ok. A lot of the descent girls will quote high rates. Most of them hang around the bars or just outside of the hotspots. Most of the average girls hang along the beach and they will pop out and approach you. They can also be aggressive with their marketing campaign. Most of the guys in Boracay bring a girl with them but if you are not with a girl you can be approached or called out to. P4P is available in Boracay. By the way, the beaches there are absolutely stunning.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2818770]I was in Pattaya recently just before my trip to the Phils. If you believe that there are only fat and ugly chick's in Pattaya right now because of a low season then you have never been to Pattaya regardless of the time of year. The fun doesn't stop in Pattaya, ever![/QUOTE]WTF read the thread.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2818878]They can also be aggressive with their marketing campaign. [/QUOTE]The majority of the aggressive ones are lady boys. If they are actually girls and aggressive it usually means she is going to give horrible service so you pay and kick her out for doing nothing or she is looking to steal from you. This is usually the case no matter what country you are in.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere;2819107] If they are actually girls and aggressive it usually means she is going to give horrible service so you pay and kick her out for doing nothing or she is looking to steal from you. This is usually the case no matter what country you are in.[/QUOTE]Yes and that's why we share information to let others know about the environment. Aggressiveness is a sign of desperation and bad service. That's an international problem. LadyBoys are prevalent throughout Southeast Asia and Latin America. Spotting and finding out is a no brainer. Have some due diligence and don't be quick to take something before you're sure. It should be common knowledge that one might encounter / see a LadyBoy or two or more.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2818936]WTF read the thread.[/QUOTE]Have you read that thread lately? LOL Pattaya will always have good younger options anytime of the year. There is no old fugly season. Some guys don't know to move around Pattaya to get what they want. There's countless options of all taste. Best thing to do is see for yourself.

Any escort options in Panglao / Bohol?

HeyPlzHeplMe has a whopping 8 posts over the past 2 years, almost all questions like this one, and only one mildly descriptive field report. Feed the troll if you like, but he has no intention of providing any feedback later.

[I]Any escort options in Panglao / Bohol?

Does anyone know if Cindy from bangkokgoldenescorts still works anywhere?

What exactly are the best options for outcall to your hotel? From looking through this thread, it looks like Smooci and maybe Thaifriendly are the main options?

Sorry of this isn't the place to ask, but is it still a good time to head to Bangkok & Pattaya for mongering during the rainy season this month?

Is Mileroticos the best place for girls in Oaxaca? If anyone has any Oaxaca girls on Twitter point them my way because I haven't found any yet.

Do people usually use their personal phone numbers for WhatsApp or to contact girls? Or do you guys generally use a second number?[/I]

Hi Mr West.

Its amazing how you are able to keep track of all this traffic and provide info and umderstated superlatives.

I'm any case, bravo!

Victor.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2830889]HeyPlzHeplMe has a whopping 8 posts over the past 2 years, almost all questions like this one, and only one mildly descriptive field report. Feed the troll if you like, but he has no intention of providing any feedback later.

[I]Any escort options in Panglao / Bohol?

Does anyone know if Cindy from bangkokgoldenescorts still works anywhere?

What exactly are the best options for outcall to your hotel? From looking through this thread, it looks like Smooci and maybe Thaifriendly are the main options?

Sorry of this isn't the place to ask, but is it still a good time to head to Bangkok & Pattaya for mongering during the rainy season this month?

Is Mileroticos the best place for girls in Oaxaca? If anyone has any Oaxaca girls on Twitter point them my way because I haven't found any yet.

Do people usually use their personal phone numbers for WhatsApp or to contact girls? Or do you guys generally use a second number?[/I][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VictorHugo999;2832456]Hi Mr West.

Its amazing how you are able to keep track of all this traffic and provide info and umderstated superlatives.

I'm any case, bravo!

Victor.[/QUOTE]Click on HeyPlzHeplMe's (or anyone's) username. Click on 'View Forum Posts'. Get an instant look at the first few lines of all of his posts going backwards in chronological order. Takes 30 seconds. It takes longer to write / type out a reply to answer his question. Also the username itself (HeyPlzHeplMe) seems geared towards asking infantile questions, designed to waste our time, questions that might be better off Googled.

I will be goig to puerto princess on Sunday and will be travelling to el nido / coron in palawan area for next 10 days.

Anyone there during thsi time? Any pointers on where to find action and / or tips etc.

Thanks in advance.

I had a fantasy about hooking up with a pregnant woman. I'm happy to say I was able to fulfill this fantasy.

After searching on FB for messages I kept exploring the links until I found a post by a 20-year-old woman who was pregnant. I contacted her on messenger and we set up a time to meet. We agreed to meet outside a local department store and then we went next door to an hourly motel.

When got our room we each took a quick shower. We started with some foreplay. Sadly she did not do any type of BJ. I knew this in advance and was fine with it because I simply wanted to experience sex with a pregnant woman. So, after the fore play on went the condom and she hopped on top. We also went into missionary positions.

She was about 8 months pregnant and she felt nice, wet, and tight. After I finished we relaxed for a while and then went for round two.

It was not my favorite experience overall. Still, I'm glad to have the experience.

Total cost of 4 k php.

I was able to go back to Sabang for the first time since 2019. From Manila to Batangas, there's a bus every hour from the JAM Liner bus terminal in Buendia and the trip takes about 2 hours. From Batangas, you can take a RORO ferry for 428 php (2 hours) or a fast boat for about 600+ php (45 minutes). I recommend trying to time it so you can get a fast boat. The 3 companies were Galerian, Montengro, and Island Water. I was able to get a trike from Balatero to Sabang for 200 php but on the return I could only find a tuktuk for 250 php. Just a note on the return trip, try to go early in the morning or later in the afternoon. I took the 1:00 pm RORO and when I got to Batangas at 3:30 pm the bus wouldn't leave because there were so few passengers and we had to wait another 1. 5 hours (until 5 pm) for the next ferry to come in. It also seems like the Ceres Liner buses also stop in PITX (the new Paranque terminal), which adds more time to the journey.

Here are some bar that I saw (going east to west):

Sabang Disco. Went in at 7 pm and there were like 5-10 girls. 1 girl would dance on the stage at a time. Bar fine 4. 5 k.

Sabang Sky (the old Philippine Village Disco) - took a quick look. Saw a bunch of girls dancing on the stage in those shiny evening gowns.

District. Looked open but did not go in.

Boss Club. Went in at 7 pm and they had about 15 girls. None were dancing; they were all just sitting by stage. Bar fine 5 k.

Coco Lipz. Stopped by at 7 pm but only waitresses inside (looked like they were still setting up).

Sugarkiss. Did not look to be open.

Club Erotica. Did not go in.

I was very surprised about how empty it seemed especially compared to the pre-pandemic times. There weren't a lot of girls working. They told me they needed a license now so maybe that is it. But there were also not many other customers so maybe the girls moved on to do other things. For the hour between 7 pm and 8 pm, maybe like 5 groups of customers that could come in. Also if you did pay the barfine, the girl could not leave until 9 pm. This was not a problem because you can just come back at 9 pm and collect your girl. I guess this would help against the old problem where at 7 pm a bunch of girls would get barfined out and the bar would look empty. If met someone you wanted to go with again the next day, you could just give her the barfine and she would go with you whenever. There actually seems to be less runners now. In the past sometimes the girl would want to leave after the deed was done; that's fine by me (I sleep better alone). But this time all the girls would stay until morning.

Conclusion: The quality of the girls were OK. Didn't really see any knockouts but easy enough to find someone slim with a decent face and not old. There wasn't really much other competition so you really do have your pick.

[QUOTE=KingSquared;2836413]I was able to go back to Sabang for the first time since 2019.

Conclusion: The quality of the girls were OK. Didn't really see any knockouts but easy enough to find someone slim with a decent face and not old. There wasn't really much other competition so you really do have your pick.[/QUOTE]Everyone talkes about Angeles' fall from grace. However, I think Sabang has had an even greater fall. I can remember when it was quiet, off the well worn mongerring track and populated by repeat visitors and fun girls. 1+1 k got you a bubbly girl who would stay until after the 3rd dive for the day and then basically have to be told it was time to go.

Many many great memories from Sabang. I did go back once to try to relive things but unfortunately reality fell well short. I know many foreigner residents and working girls who have moved out to greener pastures.

Went to Puerto Galera and somewhat disappoointing Makati. Many Makati bars were rather empty and not too good quality. Plan be, Dimples and Lips were the only bars I did not turn away from the door. 3. 9 k + 5 k consistent asking price and all the drinks on top.

Sabang Beach was a very pleasant surprise. A massive new place called Quantum on the second floor of the girl bar alley reminded me of the best of Angeles 10+ years ago. Probably around 100 girls with quality far exceeding any bar in Makati. 4. 5 k barfine for ST / LT paid to the girl afterwards + tip. Policy is that the girl can only leave the bar at 9 pm (Quantum opens at 6:30) and the girl cannot leave together with the customer. Fair amount of Koreans but it was either the quantity of the girls vs customers (the place had more girls than customers in rainy season) or the new policy that made it quite pleasant to observe unlike before when Koreans barfined all the girls 1 minute after opening. Also, it worked nicely so that one could go in, find a girl and ask her to come to the hotel at 9 and leave. Quantum alternates with the bar downstairs, which used to exist ten years ago but has been renovated I. E. Just either one is open, but both have the same girls and the same staff. I cannot remember the drink prices but they too were far less than Makati. Most girls were rather passive and some clearly had Korean preference. Most but not all: With a small effort or mama-san support girls were very easy to get for an interview. Hats off to the German bloke who has set up this operation. Looking at the reports from Angeles this may well be the best that all of Philippines has to offer: a truly great place with half the price. Barfined multiple 8's and 9's.

Other bars were quite rough and somewhat empty. Coco Lips had a handful of girls with one looker who appeared extremely pissed off at life. Club Erotica had a fair number of girls, but the looker that I bought an expensive drink for took off before even finishing the drink so I left and never went there again. Other bars had few girls and really quite a variance in quality, but the girls came at you more with suggestions for threesome etc. I did not barfine anyone but from Quantum.

Sabang itself is also much nicer nowadays with the new beach boulevard. The only downside is that boat from Batangas arrives to Balatero port, which is like twenty minutes on a sidecar. Si-kat bus from Citystate Tower, Ermita, is still the way to travel, 1. 4 k one way. Private transfer (private boat&car) quoted at 8 k one way.

[QUOTE=NukePasa;2836768]Went to Puerto Galera and somewhat disappoointing Makati...

Sabang itself is also much nicer nowadays with the new beach boulevard. The only downside is that boat from Batangas arrives to Balatero port, which is like twenty minutes on a sidecar. Si-kat bus from Citystate Tower, Ermita, is still the way to travel, 1. 4 k one way. Private transfer (private boat&car) quoted at 8 k one way.[/QUOTE]Looks like I may have spoken too soon. It's great to read that you had a good time.

It's a shame the direct ferry's never restarted. Just an FYI, there were two seaplane operators that flew direct MNL to PG stopping in the bay between PG and Sabang. It escapes all the traffic and was priced less than the private car / boat option for a painless 30 minute flight. One company didn't survive C19 but I think Air Juan is still going. Certainly worth a Google for any prospective visitor.

Cheers. G.

Get out there, to the provinces. Grab on to something important, don't let go.

So much opportunity. Get in there.

Hi Mr WC.

Thanks again for encouragement.

Looking forward to contributing after my upcoming dive trip. Too bad I will be skipping Negros and "headed" Subic.

Keep up the good work.

Victor.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2837766]Get out there, to the provinces. Grab on to something important, don't let go.

So much opportunity. Get in there.[/QUOTE]

Hi friends,

Am in Batangas for diving.

Started texting and checking on Tinder, Tan Tan, DIA.

Got zero returns.

Decided to just concentrate on diving and allow the passion of the ocean to diffuse other passions.

Shortened trip. Return to Manila.

Victor.

[QUOTE=KingSquared;2836413]I was able to go back to Sabang for the first time since 2019. From Manila to Batangas, there's a bus every hour from the JAM Liner bus terminal in Buendia and the trip takes about 2 hours. From Batangas, you can take a RORO ferry for 428 php (2 hours) or a fast boat for about 600+ php (45 minutes). I recommend trying to time it so you can get a fast boat. The 3 companies were Galerian, Montengro, and Island Water. I was able to get a trike from Balatero to Sabang for 200 php but on the return I could only find a tuktuk for 250 php. Just a note on the return trip, try to go early in the morning or later in the afternoon. I took the 1:00 pm RORO and when I got to Batangas at 3:30 pm the bus wouldn't leave because there were so few passengers and we had to wait another 1. 5 hours (until 5 pm) for the next ferry to come in. It also seems like the Ceres Liner buses also stop in PITX (the new Paranque terminal), which adds more time to the journey.

Here are some bar that I saw (going east to west):

Sabang Disco. Went in at 7 pm and there were like 5-10 girls. 1 girl would dance on the stage at a time. Bar fine 4. 5 k.

Sabang Sky (the old Philippine Village Disco) - took a quick look. Saw a bunch of girls dancing on the stage in those shiny evening gowns.

District. Looked open but did not go in.

Boss Club. Went in at 7 pm and they had about 15 girls. None were dancing; they were all just sitting by stage. Bar fine 5 k.

Coco Lipz. Stopped by at 7 pm but only waitresses inside (looked like they were still setting up).

Sugarkiss. Did not look to be open.

Club Erotica. Did not go in.

I was very surprised about how empty it seemed especially compared to the pre-pandemic times. There weren't a lot of girls working. They told me they needed a license now so maybe that is it. But there were also not many other customers so maybe the girls moved on to do other things. For the hour between 7 pm and 8 pm, maybe like 5 groups of customers that could come in. Also if you did pay the barfine, the girl could not leave until 9 pm. This was not a problem because you can just come back at 9 pm and collect your girl. I guess this would help against the old problem where at 7 pm a bunch of girls would get barfined out and the bar would look empty. If met someone you wanted to go with again the next day, you could just give her the barfine and she would go with you whenever. There actually seems to be less runners now. In the past sometimes the girl would want to leave after the deed was done; that's fine by me (I sleep better alone). But this time all the girls would stay until morning.

Conclusion: The quality of the girls were OK. Didn't really see any knockouts but easy enough to find someone slim with a decent face and not old. There wasn't really much other competition so you really do have your pick.[/QUOTE]Just returned from Sabang and concur with your findings.

Korean customers dominated even more than AC.

Not much to do there besides diving and bar hopping. No beach at Sabang.

Disappointed in the quality of girls working there in the clubs really young as compared to AC however someones 10 is another man's 1.

White beach was very disappointing in the beach itself, many rocks on the beach and in the. Water. Recommend going to Boracay instead.

Gents: Get in there and get some. Its random nekked picture day. Post one of your own and lets have more like this.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2851732]Gents: Get in there and get some. Its random nekked picture day. Post one of your own and lets have more like this.[/QUOTE]OK here's a naked pic or 2.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2851861]OK here's a naked pic or 2.[/QUOTE]Incredible find, GD. Great figure. One more for the (far flung) road.

[QUOTE=NukePasa;2836768]Went to Puerto Galera and somewhat disappoointing Makati. Many Makati bars were rather empty and not too good quality. Plan be, Dimples and Lips were the only bars I did not turn away from the door. 3. 9 k + 5 k consistent asking price and all the drinks on top.

Sabang Beach was a very pleasant surprise. A massive new place called Quantum on the second floor of the girl bar alley reminded me of the best of Angeles 10+ years ago. Probably around 100 girls with quality far exceeding any bar in Makati. 4. 5 k barfine for ST / LT paid to the girl afterwards + tip. Policy is that the girl can only leave the bar at 9 pm (Quantum opens at 6:30) and the girl cannot leave together with the customer. Fair amount of Koreans but it was either the quantity of the girls vs customers (the place had more girls than customers in rainy season) or the new policy that made it quite pleasant to observe unlike before when Koreans barfined all the girls 1 minute after opening. Also, it worked nicely so that one could go in, find a girl and ask her to come to the hotel at 9 and leave. Quantum alternates with the bar downstairs, which used to exist ten years ago but has been renovated I. E. Just either one is open, but both have the same girls and the same staff. I cannot remember the drink prices but they too were far less than Makati. Most girls were rather passive and some clearly had Korean preference. Most but not all: With a small effort or mama-san support girls were very easy to get for an interview. Hats off to the German bloke who has set up this operation. Looking at the reports from Angeles this may well be the best that all of Philippines has to offer: a truly great place with half the price. Barfined multiple 8's and 9's.

Other bars were quite rough and somewhat empty. Coco Lips had a handful of girls with one looker who appeared extremely pissed off at life. Club Erotica had a fair number of girls, but the looker that I bought an expensive drink for took off before even finishing the drink so I left and never went there again. Other bars had few girls and really quite a variance in quality, but the girls came at you more with suggestions for threesome etc. I did not barfine anyone but from Quantum.

Sabang itself is also much nicer nowadays with the new beach boulevard. The only downside is that boat from Batangas arrives to Balatero port, which is like twenty minutes on a sidecar. Si-kat bus from Citystate Tower, Ermita, is still the way to travel, 1. 4 k one way. Private transfer (private boat&car) quoted at 8 k one way.[/QUOTE]Quantum sounds like a game changer to little ole Sabang. Alone (Quantum) would make a return visit worthwhile for me. I had scuba dive concentric visits 2016 and 2017 and liked having the bar girl option in the evenings. I certainly had some good finds, but the venues were not impressive and it took more effort and luck on any given night out than I was accustomed to (Pats and Bangkok spoil you). That there anything approaching 100 girls on site is a gold miine. Has anyone been there in the recent months? I don't remember what early / mid November weather is like but I could add that to an asian itinerary I am already on.

Stayed for 5 nights at Henann Palm Resort. Was told via email they are NOT girl friendly. But when I checked in, found the opposite was true. Since I had booked for 2 (just in case), I was told all I had to do was bring her to the front desk to collect her ID.

I was working 7 pm-3 am online to synch with my job in the USA. So I didn't have much time to explore the nightlife. Spent "lunch" breaks walking north on the beach walk and got approached every 50 yards! More often that not. Lady Boys. But plenty of girls too. Did not go into a club. So no info on what might be inside. Probably better quality?

But from Nigi Nigi's to Epic there are plenty of girls in the shadows. Got s few numbers for WhatsApp. Didn't use them. But did break down and grabbed 2 girls for 2 k each one night. But when I went to register they wanted me to pay another 1. 5 k to take 2nd girl to my room. This actually gave me an excuse to pick the cuter of the two and tell they other one "sorry"! (I actually gave her 1 k and she waited in the lobby for her friend.) Told my girl all I wanted was a BJ and to come in her mouth! She said "Oh no. I can't do that. I never do that! But of course she did. For an extract 1 k! And based on how much she gagged and washed her mouth out. I'm betting she was NOT a cum swallower after all!

Any way. The bottom line is there are plenty of girls to get your rocks off in Boracay! And that's with NO EFFORT beyond walking down the beach!

BTW. I probably wouldn't return to Boracay. IMO it's very overrated. But that's just me!

Back on the provincial road. Taller, long-waisted statuesque critter, busts off her leash for some Westy time. Get in there, and give her a special part of you.

[QUOTE=Trvllvr58;2868173]Stayed for 5 nights at Henann Palm Resort. Was told via email they are NOT girl friendly. But when I checked in, found the opposite was true. Since I had booked for 2 (just in case), I was told all I had to do was bring her to the front desk to collect her ID.

I was working 7 pm-3 am online to synch with my job in the USA. So I didn't have much time to explore the nightlife. Spent "lunch" breaks walking north on the beach walk and got approached every 50 yards! More often that not. Lady Boys. But plenty of girls too. Did not go into a club. So no info on what might be inside. Probably better quality?

But from Nigi Nigi's to Epic there are plenty of girls in the shadows. Got s few numbers for WhatsApp. Didn't use them. But did break down and grabbed 2 girls for 2 k each one night. But when I went to register they wanted me to pay another 1. 5 k to take 2nd girl to my room. This actually gave me an excuse to pick the cuter of the two and tell they other one "sorry"! (I actually gave her 1 k and she waited in the lobby for her friend.) Told my girl all I wanted was a BJ and to come in her mouth! She said "Oh no. I can't do that. I never do that! But of course she did. For an extract 1 k! And based on how much she gagged and washed her mouth out. I'm betting she was NOT a cum swallower after all!

Any way. The bottom line is there are plenty of girls to get your rocks off in Boracay! And that's with NO EFFORT beyond walking down the beach!

BTW. I probably wouldn't return to Boracay. IMO it's very overrated. But that's just me![/QUOTE]Hey this is a good input to me and thanks for sharing. I have been planning a trip to Boracay from Manila and was really undecided on whether I should try and get a companion from Manila to travel with me (getting that companion too is proving a bit difficult as I have been trying only through Tinder) - but basis this it seems like I should be able to get some traction directly at Boracay. Mine is a subscribed account and hence DM is open; in case you feel like helping a bud, please do share any of your recommendations there. Will be happy to reciprocate once I have traction here in the Ph as well. Or in case you are planning any of the other spots like Batangas, Cebu etc ping me and I would be happy to be the Wingman and share costs.

I'm in Cebu now. Posted in the 2022 Cebu thread but no action there. I'm pursuing some girls on S. A. But wondering if there are other suggestions? Bars / clubs? Currently staying at the Bayfront Hotel next to SM City Mall, but not sure it was the right choice. All input appreciated.

I'll post about some obscure other places tomorrow.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2874618]I'm in Cebu now. Posted in the 2022 Cebu thread but no action there. I'm pursuing some girls on S. A. But wondering if there are other suggestions? Bars / clubs? Currently staying at the Bayfront Hotel next to SM City Mall, but not sure it was the right choice. All input appreciated.

I'll post about some obscure other places tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Check your PMs and there is actin in Cebu and there is a separate thread for Cebu also.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2874648]Check your PMs and there is actin in Cebu and there is a separate thread for Cebu also.[/QUOTE]I posted on the Cebu 2022 thread. When I tried the link to the separate Cebu area, it didn't work. I'm out in the far end of Mactan island.

2 hours travel time last time we left Ayala to come back to my place.

I went down to Mango. So sad compared to what was before (which was small compared to Angeles & Pattaya).

I visited Viking, had a good time but the selection was old tired and mediocre. It was right after a 3 day weekend & that may explain.

Girls can go online & get a better deal.

Bars as they were may be obsolete- like horse drawn buggies. One of many businesses crushed by the internet revolution- typewriters, the Music business etc.

I'll try to file a fuller report later when I get time.

I missed sending in $ for a membership before I left the USA so I can't PM.

[QUOTE=DonRoberts;2874790]I posted on the Cebu 2022 thread. When I tried the link to the separate Cebu area, it didn't work. I'm out in the far end of Mactan island.

2 hours travel time last time we left Ayala to come back to my place.[/QUOTE]DR: If you don't mind my asking, why are you out in the far end of Mactan? Seems an odd location to monger, given its remoteness from the well-traveled goodfella areas.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2874848]DR: If you don't mind my asking, why are you out in the far end of Mactan? Seems an odd location to monger, given its remoteness from the well-traveled goodfella areas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for asking-.

I've been coming to Cebu 18 or 19 years. 25 to Philippines. I have 2 kids here. I don't live with the moms.

We have a place out here in Mactan & also in Camotes in my daughters name (she's dual USA / Philippine citizen).

It used to be less congested out here in Mactan. I'm 15 minutes from the airport.

Camotes was a nice place for raising the kid.

Before covid I was pretty well set up- driver, housekeeper 4 or 5 Suzuki multicabs etc. Some nice relationships etc.

Driver is gone cars rusted out junk etc. Old girlfriends married, pregnant etc.

I've had a good life here but I really prefer California.

I'm really tired of dealing with the disfunction here.

I wish I'd upgraded to paid membership but got too rushed.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2874618]I'm in Cebu now. Posted in the 2022 Cebu thread but no action there. I'm pursuing some girls on S. A. But wondering if there are other suggestions? Bars / clubs? Currently staying at the Bayfront Hotel next to SM City Mall, but not sure it was the right choice. All input appreciated.

I'll post about some obscure other places tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonRoberts;2874790]I posted on the Cebu 2022 thread. When I tried the link to the separate Cebu area, it didn't work. I'm out in the far end of Mactan island.

2 hours travel time last time we left Ayala to come back to my place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2874848]DR: If you don't mind my asking, why are you out in the far end of Mactan? Seems an odd location to monger, given its remoteness from the well-traveled goodfella areas.[/QUOTE]I'd agree. Describing Cebu as a "shithole" based only upon Mactan seems a little unfair. IT Park / Ayala may not be BGC but it's very comfortable there and appealing to the girls: lots of places to eat, drink and party and the Jeepney station is literally at the bottom of the Mall so very easy for the girls to find. No more trying to explain exactly which of 27 7/11's you want to meet her at in the 'burbs. For the guys, plenty of decent hotels and Airbnbs within walking distance.

I gave up on Cebu gogo bars years ago and never went back. I also haven't been to any of the mega clubs in town either but I have had some fun with a couple of the dancers and promos girls from them. No idea why but they all proved my hotness vs attitude theory completely wrong and were great performers.

I've always said the Cebu is the online capital of the Philippines. Everything available from part time students to stunning models. Seeking is for those prepared to throw money and caution to the wind for a short term stay. Pina Love, Filippine Cupid and even Tinder have girls with much more realistic expectations.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2874883]I'd agree. Describing Cebu as a "shithole" based only upon Mactan seems a little unfair. [/QUOTE]Ya don't do that. Only Go and myself can do that.

[QUOTE=DonRoberts;2874882]I'm really tired of dealing with the disfunction here.[/QUOTE]Phall in line, phella.

[QUOTE=DonRoberts;2874882]I wish I'd upgraded to paid membership but got too rushed.[/QUOTE]Its never too late.

This is the link to the Cebu forum:

"Posts: 2691.

Link to Cebu Forum.

Greetings everyone,

I have created a seperate forum for Cebu in which all Forum Members are welcome to participate.

The Cebu forum is located at.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ilippi[/URL]nes-Cebu".

This seems incomplete; click on the link& I get:

"HTTP Status: 404 (not found)".

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2874903]Ya don't do that. Only Go and myself can do that.

Phall in line, phella.

Its never too late.[/QUOTE]Not sure how to subscribe from Cebu- can't use credit card.

I know zilch about bitcoin.

In USA I'd just put a $20 in an envelope & send it off- In fact somewhere in my messy pile of papers is an envelope with $20 & etc. Misplaced.

Can't do that with Philippine post office.

Regards to all.

Don are.

[QUOTE=DonRoberts;2875123]Link to Cebu Forum.

Greetings everyone,

I have created a seperate forum for Cebu in which all Forum Members are welcome to participate.

The Cebu forum is located at.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ilippi[/URL]nes-Cebu".

This seems incomplete; click on the link& I get:

"HTTP Status: 404 (not found)".[/QUOTE]Having the same difficulty.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/URL]

See pic.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2875135]Having the same difficulty.


[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/URL]

See pic.[/QUOTE]The original post is over 10 years old so I'm guessing it's changed. The link to the Cebu forum being used most currently is.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4315-Cebu-2022[/URL]

A cutie from few years back.

[QUOTE=Spitfire;2875139]The original post is over 10 years old so I'm guessing it's changed. The link to the Cebu forum being used most currently is.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4315-Cebu-2022[/URL][/QUOTE]The The Philippines. Cebu is still there. It's not used a lot but there is a post from yesterday.

The link doesn't work for me either. However, the forum can be accessed manually by clicking on Forum, then Asia, then The Philippines. Cebu. It's directly below the main The Philippines forum.

The Cebu 2022 is a sub forum of the main The Philippines forum. It's actually a User blog at the bottom of the page.

All as clear as mud, I know, but there was a push years ago to peel out Cebu from the Philippines forum because it was so popular at the time.

Seems a bit wasteful and confusing now that Cebu doesn't get many posts (despite the fun that can be had online there).

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=CanoMonger;2875140]A cutie from few years back.[/QUOTE]CM: Home run. Nice work.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2875150]The The Philippines. Cebu is still there. It's not used a lot but there is a post from yesterday.

The link doesn't work for me either. However, the forum can be accessed manually by clicking on Forum, then Asia, then The Philippines. Cebu. It's directly below the main The Philippines forum.

The Cebu 2022 is a sub forum of the main The Philippines forum. It's actually a User blog at the bottom of the page.

All as clear as mud, I know, but there was a push years ago to peel out Cebu from the Philippines forum because it was so popular at the time.

Seems a bit wasteful and confusing now that Cebu doesn't get many posts (despite the fun that can be had online there).

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I see it now like a separate country listing. Weird. Thanks for the backstory.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/URL]

Thanks WestCoast.

I'm sure everyone has some to share.

[QUOTE=KittyDoctor;2836134]I had a fantasy about hooking up with a pregnant woman. I'm happy to say I was able to fulfill this fantasy.

After searching on FB for messages I kept exploring the links until I found a post by a 20-year-old woman who was pregnant. I contacted her on messenger and we set up a time to meet. We agreed to meet outside a local department store and then we went next door to an hourly motel.

When got our room we each took a quick shower. We started with some foreplay. Sadly she did not do any type of BJ. I knew this in advance and was fine with it because I simply wanted to experience sex with a pregnant woman. So, after the fore play on went the condom and she hopped on top. We also went into missionary positions.

She was about 8 months pregnant and she felt nice, wet, and tight. After I finished we relaxed for a while and then went for round two.

It was not my favorite experience overall. Still, I'm glad to have the experience.

Total cost of 4 k php.[/QUOTE]You put on a condom with a pregnant girl?? The whole point of banging a pregnant girl is to give her a creampie. LOL.

Get out there off the beaten path. Never know what you're going to find. Woof!

In Puerto Galera, do the bars have rooms or do you pretty much have to bring the girl to your hotel?

[QUOTE=MonteChristo;2884373]In Puerto Galera, do the bars have rooms or do you pretty much have to bring the girl to your hotel?[/QUOTE]I assume you mean Sabang. All the bars there can get handsy inside but none have individual rooms.

The one exception could be Coco Lips. Their upstairs room has gone through many reincarnations over the years including pool hall, change rooms, storage etc. For a short time it had very basic fuck-me facilities. It may be worth checking when you are in town.

Otherwise the girls are happy to duck out for a shortime.

Note that the massage places do not offer extras to tourists.

Enjoy. G.

- Many of the girlie bars have changed names. All the girlie bars are along the main alleyway.

- There are 11 girlie bars. Many of them were mostly empty around 9 pm.

- Best one is probably the one below Dream hotel. Observed around 40 girls on Sunday at 7 pm. On Monday, maybe half that number. There were a few decent girls. Most of the girls were average to slightly above average (that's on my personal scale).

- Kind of funny scene at the 7 pm opening time. There's a mad rush. The Koreans would walk between all the bars, trying to find their date for the night. Interesting is that usually, the Koreans would walk in, not order any drinks, and look at the girls. Sometimes they would barfine the girl without ordering a lady's drink. It seems there is no mandatory lady's drink. Bars are not enforcing any mandatory drinks for the customers.

- Higher percentage of East Asians to Westerners than Angeles.

- It seems CocoLipz and Kiss "something" are the 2 girlie bars that Westerners hang out at.

- Barfine at Melodie (the original Venus from 2007) was 5000 pesos. At another bar, observed a customer ask and get a 2500 barfine; this is where you pay half to the bar, and then give the other half to the girl when you are done.

- Beers prices are same or more than Angeles; between 140 to 160. Around 2007, the beer prices were way lower than Angeles. The food is horrible. I can't believe I miss the food from Angeles.

- Sabang doesn't seem that busy. I thought January was high season.

- They mostly finished the concrete boardwalk. Some places are closed; they're building more hotels. Not sure if this place can support all the dive hotels and girlie bars.

- I miss the Sabang scene from 2007; way better.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2885793]

- I miss the Sabang scene from 2007; way better.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Sabang is another one to relegate to the 'good old days' list.

It was once very popular with western tourist due to its ease of access for SG, HK etc expats and its one of the few places that has both good diving and girls on tap. The yellow invasion and online opportunities elsewhere have made huge impacts now.

A few comments in your points:

You always had to be an early starter at the bars. As you said, Koreans do a sweep as doors open and most guys are diving the next day anyway so aren't looking for all night drinking sessions.

Half now, half in the morning has always been in place. Girls and bars would try with full payment before leaving on new guys but it's not required. Obviously, prepayment doesn't bode well for service levels, runners and attitude. The 2. 5+2. 5 k should be full payment but over time girls have started to get use to extra tips on top as well.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2886009]Unfortunately, Sabang is another one to relegate to the 'good old days' list.

It was once very popular with western tourist due to its ease of access for SG, HK etc expats and its one of the few places that has both good diving and girls on tap. The yellow invasion and online opportunities elsewhere have made huge impacts now.

A few comments in your points:

You always had to be an early starter at the bars. As you said, Koreans do a sweep as doors open and most guys are diving the next day anyway so aren't looking for all night drinking sessions.

Half now, half in the morning has always been in place. Girls and bars would try with full payment before leaving on new guys but it's not required. Obviously, prepayment doesn't bode well for service levels, runners and attitude. The 2. 5+2. 5 k should be full payment but over time girls have started to get use to extra tips on top as well.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Last I went to Sabang was 2018. Bar scene was the same as you describe, but worse than Korean punters were Chinese divers. Never seen a bigger bunch of untrained careless group of idiots under water. Couldn't keep buoyancy, picked up marine life, kicked the coral and would kick you in the face and knock your mask off. Hopefully Covid has at least ended that nightmare.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2886108]Last I went to Sabang was 2018. Bar scene was the same as you describe, but worse than Korean punters were Chinese divers. Never seen a bigger bunch of untrained careless group of idiots under water. Couldn't keep buoyancy, picked up marine life, kicked the coral and would kick you in the face and knock your mask off. Hopefully Covid has at least ended that nightmare.[/QUOTE]I take it you never dived with Russians. 😁.

This isn't the Dive Channel so, to be fair, many of the female Korean dive masters were super hot. I don't know any white guys who got far with them though as their male compatriots didn't want to see them infected with white dicks so were major cock blockers if they noticed any attempts being made.

It's a shame as Sabang was a great place to spend a week or two. Most of my best memories of fun girls came from there.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2886183]I take it you never dived with Russians. 😁.

This isn't the Dive Channel so, to be fair, many of the female Korean dive masters were super hot. I don't know any white guys who got far with them though as their male compatriots didn't want to see them infected with white dicks so were major cock blockers if they noticed any attempts being made.

It's a shame as Sabang was a great place to spend a week or two. Most of my best memories of fun girls came from there.[/QUOTE]Bang bang Sabang has had its day I feel too.

Last time soon got pissed with arrogant Chinese and Korean 4 day millionaires and their tactics. Once again Asian tourists have driven the price up and service levels down - 5 k for ST in Phil BS.

Found Coco lips as best Western bar too where girls were more than happy to treat non Asians to a good time. Great for diving now but that's all.

Seems like even Boracay is not what it once was too. Anybody know of decent swim / dive beach with adequate supply of girls in Phil?

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2886213]Anybody know of decent swim / dive beach with adequate supply of girls in Phil?

NI.[/QUOTE]Subic has bars. Moalboal has an active online scene or you can import / byo from Cebu. It's only 3 hours away.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2886307]Subic has bars. Moalboal has an active online scene or you can import / byo from Cebu. It's only 3 hours away.
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Yeah been to Subic but hardly swim able -yuk. Been to Cebu too. Never got to Moalboal & whale sharks. Possibility maybe, Thanks.

NI.

Gentemen,

On my next trip I like to take a side trip to Mindinao. Possibly with a Mindinao bg back to her province if it is a day trip from the hotel. I have never been to Mindinao.

I would like suggestions on nice hotels with western standards. I would most likely be flying in from Manila and staying in the airport city.

Thank you gents in advance.

Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2886764]Gentemen,

On my next trip I like to take a side trip to Mindinao. Possibly with a Mindinao bg back to her province if it is a day trip from the hotel. I have never been to Mindinao.

I would like suggestions on nice hotels with western standards. I would most likely be flying in from Manila and staying in the airport city.

Thank you gents in advance.[/QUOTE]Bit confusing. DG you are looking for hotels in Surigao? Or Butuan? CDO?

[QUOTE=Pez612;2897497]Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.[/QUOTE]Been to Sabang 3 times. Each time prices were higher and higher- Koreans and other Asians pay ridiculous prices and girls have to do little work to service them. Many girls esp the better looking ones won't even look at you unless you are Korean etc. Many of us crossed Sabang off the list a long time ago. My advice get the boat back to Batangas and head back to Manilla.

Found the same in Angeles. If you are stuck the best club I found was CoCo Lips, Best Hotel. Montani and you got to try the ribs at Jack Daniels.

[QUOTE=Pez612;2897497]Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.[/QUOTE]Sabang barfines are a 50/50 split so of 5000 the girl is only getting 2500. You can use this to guide the freelancer pricing. It was along time ago, but I always just paid the same as a bargirl's tip.

You don't say if you were looking for ST or LT. Your 3 k seems fair for a looker ST or a 7 LT. Maybe they are just trying their luck with a new face in town.

I'd agree with NI: unfortunately, Sabang's best days are well and truely over.

You do realise that there is a large college campus across the water in Batangas?? 😍.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2886764]Gentemen,

On my next trip I like to take a side trip to Mindinao. Possibly with a Mindinao bg back to her province if it is a day trip from the hotel. I have never been to Mindinao.

I would like suggestions on nice hotels with western standards. I would most likely be flying in from Manila and staying in the airport city.

Thank you gents in advance.[/QUOTE]Taking a BG back to her hometown is a sure fire way to be a walking ATM for the duration. There is no need to guess who will be paying for all the family dinners, tours, sick grandma's etc. Not to mention that they will always be around, cutting into the fuckability time.

I'd much prefer taking a Mindanao girl to neutral territory say Davao with a few days in Samal or Siargao etc.

In Davao, the Peoples Park area is close to everything. You have Apo View Hotel or numerous condos in Avida. The airport is close so minimal travel time. The downside is that daytime traffic is getting crazy.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2897672]Sabang barfines are a 50/50 split so of 5000 the girl is only getting 2500. You can use this to guide the freelancer pricing. It was along time ago, but I always just paid the same as a bargirl's tip.
You don't say if you were looking for ST or LT. Your 3 k seems fair for a looker ST or a 7 LT. Maybe they are just trying their luck with a new face in town.
I'd agree with NI: unfortunately, Sabang's best days are well and truely over.
You do realise that there is a large college campus across the water in Batangas?? 😍.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Hey Gof any nice beaches in Batangas. Places where you can swim and play?

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2898459]Hey Gof any nice beaches in Batangas. Places where you can swim and play?

NI.[/QUOTE]Anilao.

Just out of Battangas.

[QUOTE=Pez612;2897497]Hi all. I've been in Sabang for a day and made contact with a few girls for ST fun. Can anyone help with price for ST? I getvthe feeling prices are higher here. I was thinking 3000 at most, but some ask 4000. Any advice appreciated. Please note these are not girls requiring barfine, but girls I'm meeting online who are nearby. TIA.[/QUOTE]Hi Pez,

I'd go 3000 tops in this situation. You can even get away with a lot less. Obviously these girls up their prices to get the best they can. If you pay a lower price and look after them they'll still appreciate the cash that otherwise would not be forthcoming.

Hi Guys,

Just reporting on a recent trip to Boracay.

I was apprehensive at first but everything worked out okay.

Okay, so the place is 'talked up' to be one of the 7 most beautiful places on the planet.

On the van ride from the port to my hotel I asked myself, "When is this place going to look beautiful?

Put simply, the interior seems to be like anywhere else in the Phils, but once you get beachside, it is quite nice.

To be honest, if you want a beautiful island (and no sex) go to Fiji or Bantayan.

Prior research revealed there was little or no action there with the working girls, however all it took was to do a few walks past some of the nightclubs around Station 2 and before I knew it, the offers came along. Yes, a few lady boys to dismiss, but there was a number of cuties to invite back to the room and at the same price you'd find in AC or Makati.

Did Boracay live up to expectations? Probably not as it didn't live up to the hype and no, I don't want a f*cking massage!

Was there action there? . Definitely.

Would I go back? . Probably not. Having said that, it would be an ideal place to take your new Filipina GF for a week or so of sun and fun.

Quality of freelancers? . 6-8.

Just my opinion and hope it helps.

Phil.

Following Thailand, I arrived in the Philippines. I don't have much to report in the way of mongering, as I have a girlfriend and friends in Leyte and I spent almost all my time with them.

I traveled to Tacloban through Manila, which I knew was going to be a mistake (and it was) but it was the only connecting route for my schedule. Needless to say I didn't make there in one day and ended up having to spend the night in the shithole that is Manila. I will strongly advise anyone traveling to or through the Philippines to avoid the Manila Airport if at all possible. Some of you already know why and some of you will find out soon enough.

My Filipina girlfriend still lives with her parents and they don't know about me, so she goes home to sleep every night. That means I am able to wander around freely at night. I usually spend that time singing at the karaoke bar with my friends, all of whom would be finalists on American Idol in the USA But can't even make first row in the church choir in the Philippines.

My Filipina girlfriend is by far the most sexually insatiable woman in my life. The answer to the question of "how much sex?" is always more, and she's always ready to go unless it's that time of the month. We do plenty of other activities but we burn a lot of calories in the bedroom. I have never slept with another Filipina, and there is a simple reason for that. My body simply can't handle any more sex when she is around. She is a rare beauty with a pure heart and I thank my lucky stars she has chosen to be in my life. She is also the only woman who knows I have other girlfriends in the Western Hemisphere and she accepts that. The one lover I can be halfways honest with about my complicated love life, and I respect her immensely for her maturity. I offer her the same liberty, although she swears she isn't interested in anyone else.

One would think all that would keep me on my best behavior while I am alone in her city, but my boredom and curiosity got the better of me on Saturday night. I went out to explore the nightlife scene. I took a tricycle to Paro Paro, a quaint little gentlemen's club in Palo. I had been there once before, and I greeted one of the mamasans, Alma, who I had made friends with on my last visit. It is a nice place to relax, and open 24/7, but the lineup left a lot to be desired that night. I had a drink and then headed out to explore new horizons.

The next stop was at a gentlemen's club very close to the Oriental Leyte Hotel. I do not remember the name, but it is located on one of the little side streets off Manlurip Road, a few blocks south of the hotel. Like most places there, it does not show up on Google. However, any tricycle driver around there will know where it is if you tell them you are looking for the club where the ladies dance.

My expectations were low when my driver turned down the little side street, but I was pleased with what I saw. A dozen gorgeous 20-25 year old Filipinas were lined up in a row in front of the establishment wearing identical cute little plaid skirts and halter tops. They whistled and waved as we pulled up. Clearly I had stumbled upon a hidden treasure.

My driver and I went inside. The place was like a small auditorium. In the back middle was one large stage elevated about five feet off the ground with a pole in the center. There were several L and you shaped benches for seating with coffee tables in the middle that could accommodate anywhere from 4-8 people. There was also an upstairs balcony area with railing, which I was told was the "VIP Section".

The cost to sit in the VIP Section was 2,500 pesos. A beer costs 100 pesos. When a girl comes and sits with a customer, the customer is apparently required to buy her a "lady drink" which costs 200 pesos.

My driver and I and sat in the lower area and I got beers for both of us. In a few minutes, two beautiful girls sat down beside us. They were cousins from Mindinao and looked enough alike that they could have been sisters. One was 24 and the other was 21. I would say the older one was an 8 and the younger one was a 7. Both extremely cute, light-skinned and with ample natural cleavage. Unfortunately, it was hard to have a decent conversation with them because the music was so loud. But I did enjoy rubbing my hands over their backs and sides while they giggled and we tried to converse.

I am a pretty simple guy when it comes to these types of places. Good music and pretty women dancing is all I need to enjoy myself. So this club was right up my alley. The girls came up on stage one at a time and danced for two full songs that they had specifically chosen. The dances were good too, not the laughable halfhearted gyrations you see in a Thai club or many USA Clubs.

The girls were stunningly beautiful and all of them seemed happy to be working there. Out of the twelve or so I saw, I would have bar fined at least eight of them in Thailand. The thing is, this was the most innocent club that I had ever wandered into. There was no nudity whatsoever. All the girls kept their tops and skirts on while they danced. And the dances were sensual but not raunchy or overly provocative. None of the girls ran their hands over their breasts or pubic regions while they danced. They essentially danced like their uncle was sitting in the audience. Which actually may have been the case for some of them.

I was the only white person in the club. I believe there was one guy who looked like he was from China, Japan or Korea, but everyone else seemed to be a native. And the place was fairly packed, as one would expect on a Saturday Night.

After being in the hedonistic conclave of Bangkok, this little club in Leyte was a breath of fresh air. I actually enjoyed the pure innocence of the atmosphere, where beauty and elegance were cherished for their own sake and not just an enticement for cheap sex. My natural reflex was to ask for the numbers of the girls I sat with, but I knew what it would probably lead to and had neither the time nor desire to spoil their innocence. I can't say if I would have had any success tempting one of those beauties into my bed, either for free or for a price. But I would warn any foreigner who visits the club that doing so is not likely to be easy, and to not be surpised if any lewd proposals are met with harsh rejection. My impression was that these were genuinely pure hearted women who enjoyed their night time jobs and would take offense to being asked to have sex for money.

After an hour or so, the girls who sat with us had to go up on stage to dance. I was hoping that other girls would come and replace them, but they seemed to be spread pretty thin that night with all the customers. If I ever go back there, I would pay for seating in the VIP Section, as there seemed to be a much higher girl-to-customer ratio up there from what I could see. I tried to ask what the "perks" were of sitting in the VIP, but no one could ever hear me over the music.

A short while later, we left and drove down to check out the discotec in downtown Tacloban. My driver waited outside while I went in. It was a 400 peso cover (which includes one free drink), extremely crowded and cramped, and I was again the only white person in there. There were several girls who tried to dance close to me and some were staring at me like a lioness at a T-Bone steak. But being there all alone, I felt uncomfortable, out of place and it wasn't my scene. So I left after one drink and went back to the hotel.

After a couple more days with my special lady and friends, it was time to head home. But there was one last quick stop along the way: Taiwan.

Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the Wild Orchid Hotel in Subic?

I've stayed at the Angeles property and have never had a problem, but most of the reviews I've read about the Subic hotel aren't great.

I assume it's relatively close to the action and it's also under different management than the Angeles hotel by the same name.

There just doesn't seem to be many other options in town when I plan to stop by.

Thanks in advance.

Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2905730]Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the Wild Orchid Hotel in Subic?

I've stayed at the Angeles property and have never had a problem, but most of the reviews I've read about the Subic hotel aren't great.

I assume it's relatively close to the action and it's also under different management than the Angeles hotel by the same name.

There just doesn't seem to be many other options in town when I plan to stop by..[/QUOTE]Sorry guys. Just realized this should have been a Subic post.

Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2905730]Hi Guys,
Just wondering if anyone could give some feedback on the Wild Orchid Hotel in Subic?
I've stayed at the Angeles property and have never had a problem, but most of the reviews I've read about the Subic hotel aren't great.
I assume it's relatively close to the action and it's also under different management than the Angeles hotel by the same name.
There just doesn't seem to be many other options in town when I plan to stop by.
Thanks in advance.Phil.[/QUOTE]True there is a better suited section, but FYI, as far as feedback, I think there are better options in the area for the same or better money. If you and your company like the pool, and will be using the pool, then the wild orchid has the best pool set up. The main complex is located on the mountain side of the road, and across the road are the beach rooms. I do prefer the beach rooms over the main rooms mostly because there is a bar and dining area just outside of the rooms. "Close" is relative, but for me, no its not close to the action. Orchid is located on / in baloy beach while the action is on the main road in barretto. Yes it is close as you can easily walk it, but I always trike it, so it is not close for me. Not exactly sure you would want to be walking that trek in the dark anyway. More middle of the action would probably central park (never stayed there, but I have heard about it).

[QUOTE=Transporter;2906249]True there is a better suited section, but FYI, as far as feedback, I think there are better options in the area for the same or better money. If you and your company like the pool, and will be using the pool, then the wild orchid has the best pool set up. The main complex is located on the mountain side of the road, and across the road are the beach rooms. I do prefer the beach rooms over the main rooms mostly because there is a bar and dining area just outside of the rooms. "Close" is relative, but for me, no its not close to the action. Orchid is located on / in baloy beach while the action is on the main road in barretto. Yes it is close as you can easily walk it, but I always trike it, so it is not close for me. Not exactly sure you would want to be walking that trek in the dark anyway. More middle of the action would probably central park (never stayed there, but I have heard about it).[/QUOTE]Thanks so much Transporter.

I really appreciate the advice offered in this forum.

I'll check out some other options but they seem limited when I'll be travelling.

I've done many places in the Philippines but the only time I stayed in Subic was in the Freeport Zone with work years ago.

I'll be staying at the Wild Orchid in Angeles later this year for a few nights between work commitments.

Phil.

Hi all,

Heading back to Sabang soon, only because it's fairly easy to get to from Manila and near some water.

Just wondering if anyone's been there recently and what the scene's like now?

It's over a year since my last visit.

Also wondering if anyone's had any luck with any of the girls in the bar out the front of The Big Apple?

For some strange reason I think they refer to it as a cafe. The pole by the bar suggests otherwise.

On one previous visit for a beer towards the end of the bar alley, the manager seemed like a *****, but the girls looked nice.

They tried to hit me up for lady drinks at the time but there was never any mention of 'extras'.

Thanks in advance Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2908004]

Also wondering if anyone's had any luck with any of the girls in the bar out the front of The Big Apple?

For some strange reason I think they refer to it as a cafe. The pole by the bar suggests otherwise.

On one previous visit for a beer towards the end of the bar alley, the manager seemed like a *****, but the girls looked nice.

[/QUOTE]Do you mean the night time freelancers or the daytime foot traffic? Freelancers ebb and flow: numbers build until they become too much competition for the bribe paying bars who then have them cleared out. The cycle repeats it's self. Most are ex bar workers and there is often a reason why they no longer can work in the bar. Daytime foot traffic includes many bargirls just walking around doing their daily chores. Many are open to a overtime. The stools at the front of Big Apple make a great vantage point to watch or make a selection.

Are you talking about the small eatery between the Big Apple and the water? It was extremely popular with the girls due to cheap and well cooked local dishes. See above for enticing girls.

There has always been a colourful group associated with the ownership and management of the Big Apple. Some have been great guys but, yes, some have been "different". The same can be said for it's customers: everything from mom, dad and the kids to dead bodies have occupied the rooms.

Enjoy your stay but I'm afraid Sabang saw it's best days years ago.

G.

Getting out of the city can be a net gain. Picture time once again. Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2908079]Do you mean the night time freelancers or the daytime foot traffic? Freelancers ebb and flow: numbers build until they become too much competition for the bribe paying bars who then have them cleared out. The cycle repeats it's self. Most are ex bar workers and there is often a reason why they no longer can work in the bar. Daytime foot traffic includes many bargirls just walking around doing their daily chores. Many are open to a overtime. The stools at the front of Big Apple make a great vantage point to watch or make a selection.

Are you talking about the small eatery between the Big Apple and the water? It was extremely popular with the girls due to cheap and well cooked local dishes. See above for enticing girls.

There has always been a colourful group associated with the ownership and management of the Big Apple. Some have been great guys but, yes, some have been "different". The same can be said for it's customers: everything from mom, dad and the kids to dead bodies have occupied the rooms..[/QUOTE]Hi G and thanks for the feedback.

No I was referring to the bar at the front of Big Apple in the alley. They refer to as a cafe. For some reason. I don't think they do coffee judging by the pole beside the bar.

They ask for lady drinks, but it's obviously not that sort of place. Just a regular bar from the look of things on my last visit. Was just wondering if anyone has had any luck with any of the girls in there.

Phil.

Anything at all here? Lots of massage parlors! Any action in those?

[QUOTE=MikeStud;2910512]Anything at all here? Lots of massage parlors! Any action in those?[/QUOTE]Hi Mike. Unsure. But let us know how you went. Always looking for new places to check out after getting the business out of the way in Manila. Cheers Phil.

[QUOTE=MikeStud;2910512]Anything at all here? Lots of massage parlors! Any action in those?[/QUOTE]Philippines Red Cat website (nightlife-and-filipina-girls-in-palawan) lists a few places where it states there is some action. I'm a massage parlor kinda guy myself so hoping there is some massage happy endings.

[QUOTE=Pez612;2912686]Philippines Red Cat website (nightlife-and-filipina-girls-in-palawan) lists a few places where it states there is some action. [/QUOTE]I've found Philippines Red Cat to be handy on a couple of occasions Pez. Then again, the helpful hints from guys on forums like this are great too. It's also good to know you can get very recent info and opinions, especially when travelling to, or are in places in The Philippines you haven't been to before_ Phil.

I'm planning a trip across northern Mindanao: fly into Surigao, overland to Butuan and CDO, then either west to Illigan and Ozamis or south to Davao and Gensan.

If anyone has been to any of these and has some must do's / not do's, please let me know.

I'll be mostly operating online but, similarly, if there are good places to meet and greet, pass them on too.

Obviously, any residents who would like to meet over a beer and swap stories, just PM me.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2913623]I'm planning a trip across northern Mindanao: fly into Surigao, overland to Butuan and CDO, then either west to Illigan and Ozamis or south to Davao and Gensan.

If anyone has been to any of these and has some must do's / not do's, please let me know.

I'll be mostly operating online but, similarly, if there are good places to meet and greet, pass them on too.

Obviously, any residents who would like to meet over a beer and swap stories, just PM me.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I have been to all those places in my 56 Phil trips and with the exception of Ozamis they were all fun and enjoyable. Not much going on in Ozamiz as its very small. I would say CDO, Davao are the best But I picked up girls or chatmates in Gen San at tuna park and the Plaza in the evening hours. Many years ago CDO had night cafe where they closed the downtown city streets on Friday and Saturday nights, and had live bands and food and drink vendors. It was very nice but the new mayor closed it down Why I have no idea. Iligan has some nice waterfalls and Butuan a good museum.

I would say the best Mindanao city is Davao. Peoples Park is a nice place to stroll any time of day and chat up the girls that come there to walk or jog or hang out. Malls are exceptionally nice. I like ecoland SM myself but there are many others. Its probably the cleanest city and safest because Duterte was Mayor years ago and ruled with an iron fist. I believe his son is the nayor now there and his daughter was mayor after her pappa got the be Presedent. Have fun and I know you will.

[QUOTE=Nightrider1;2913690]I have been to all those places in my 56 Phil trips and with the exception of Ozamis they were all fun and enjoyable. Not much going on in Ozamiz as its very small. I would say CDO, Davao are the best But I picked up girls or chatmates in Gen San at tuna park and the Plaza in the evening hours. [/QUOTE]Thanks for that. Yes, I've been to Davao / Samal several times and have always enjoyed them. CDO and Gensan also have come with good reputations and online research of Ozamis shows some willing and gorgeous girls. Of course, reality is sometimes different once boots on the ground but we'll see.

I'm still undecided about turning west or south after CDO but I'll make that decision when I'm there.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2913623]I'm planning a trip across northern Mindanao: fly into Surigao, overland to Butuan and CDO, then either west to Illigan and Ozamis or south to Davao and Gensan.
If anyone has been to any of these and has some must do's / not do's, please let me know.
I'll be mostly operating online but, similarly, if there are good places to meet and greet, pass them on too.
Obviously, any residents who would like to meet over a beer and swap stories, just PM me..[/QUOTE]Let us know how you go G. I'm always looking for new spots to visit for a few weeks between work in Manila and flying home. I've yet to do Mindanao, or indeed Davao. Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2914735]Let us know how you go G. I'm always looking for new spots to visit for a few weeks between work in Manila and flying home. I've yet to do Mindanao, or indeed Davao. Phil.[/QUOTE]Will do. I can definitely recommend Davao for those with some time. It takes a few days to find ones feet and build up some contacts on the first visit but the girls are often gorgeous with great attitudes. Everything you hear about the city being super safe and relatively well organised is very true.

More to come in the other cities when I visit.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2914754]Will do. I can definitely recommend Davao for those with some time. It takes a few days to find ones feet and build up some contacts on the first visit but the girls are often gorgeous with great attitudes. Everything you hear about the city being super safe and relatively well organised is very true. Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Great to hear G. I'd never really considered Davao and it sounds very promising. I always like to check out new places in the PH on all my work trips. Always good to combine work with play. Phil.

Hi guys, just wondering if anyone's done Puerto Princesa on Palawan? I don't know if I'll have the time to head up to El Nido. Cheers in advance _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2914911]Hi guys, just wondering if anyone's done Puerto Princesa on Palawan? I don't know if I'll have the time to head up to El Nido. Cheers in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Yes there are 3 girlie bars there, I forgot the names, maybe phoenix, or something similar. Just tell a trike driver what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2914911]Hi guys, just wondering if anyone's done Puerto Princesa on Palawan? I don't know if I'll have the time to head up to El Nido. Cheers in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]PP is a bit of a one horse town, not much there really. Unless you've got business there I don't think there's much reason to go. I was only there a couple of days though as I was travelling to el Nido.

Tiki bar was a lively place and if lucky you could find girls in here.

But I was only passing through so I'm no expert.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2916137]PP is a bit of a one horse town, not much there really. Unless you've got business there I don't think there's much reason to go. I was only there a couple of days though as I was travelling to el Nido.

Tiki bar was a lively place and if lucky you could find girls in here.

But I was only passing through so I'm no expert.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jingo. Yeah I might have some business lined up there and mightn't have the time to travel further. A bit of a fly in, fly out mission for a few days. I'll report back if I find any good options. Phil.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2916102]Yes there are 3 girlie bars there, I forgot the names, maybe phoenix, or something similar. Just tell a trike driver what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]Thanks Old and Ugly. That's handy to know there are some options there. Agreed, the trike drivers or hotel staff usually point you in the right direction in most cities. Phil.

Of interest, see pic. Found on social media. Apparently, effective June 1, if you want to visit Bucas Grande island (near Siargao) you must register at the municipal tourism office when you arrive, as per Municipal Ordinance.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2917325] if you want to visit Bucas Grande island (near Siargao) you must register at the municipal tourism office when you arrive, as per Municipal Ordinance.[/QUOTE]Great info Westie. Always looking for new places to visit during business trips. Any action there that you know of? Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2918407]Great info Westie. Always looking for new places to visit during business trips. Any action there that you know of? Phil.[/QUOTE]None. BG and Siargao are off-the-beaten-path islands an hour or two by boat from provincial Surigao city (far north-east corner of Mindanao). Cuties exist, but its not a mongering spot. BYOGirl.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2918429]None. BG and Siargao are off-the-beaten-path islands an hour or two by boat from provincial Surigao city (far north-east corner of Mindanao). Cuties exist, but its not a mongering spot. BYOGirl.[/QUOTE]Cheers Westie. BYO's always cheaper at a restaurant and it is in The Philippines too. Phil.

Hi guys,

Just wondering if there's any action on Mactan Island without having to go into Cebu City?

I have a one, maybe two night stop-over there on a business trip and it's obviously where the airport is.

Regards in advance. Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2919447]Hi guys,

Just wondering if there's any action on Mactan Island without having to go into Cebu City?

I have a one, maybe two night stop-over there on a business trip and it's obviously where the airport is.

Regards in advance. Phil.[/QUOTE]Lots.

Use the FB walking groups as many advertise there, also the bars, malls are full of cuties as well as use the dating sites.

If based ion Mactan I would not go Cebu as the journey can be slow and painful etc.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2918642]Cheers Westie. BYO's always cheaper at a restaurant and it is in The Philippines too. Phil.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but if we are talking like for like, I've got to disagree. It's much better to pay the tourist tax and buy locally. Here's the math*:

[QUOTE=Goferring;1972066]"I want to save money and not pay repeated bar fines and / or inflated service charges at remote or tourist areas". I spent 10 k per week for her, 14 k on airfares to two destinations and probably 2 k per day on her trips, trinkets and food. Surprisingly, food in tourist destinations was not a trivial cost. It literally cost more to feed her than fuck her. Do the math over 14 days and the exercise cost 60 k. In hindsight, this could have paid a lot of tourist mark ups for local short timers, a hell of a catch up blow out upon return to civilization or even an extension to the holiday.[/QUOTE]Now, if you talking taking a good city giro away for the weekend for the price of a bikini, turn that's different.

An all expenses paid trip for a hooker? Never again. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

* Yes, old number but it would only get worse with today's figures.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2919447]
... it's obviously where the airport is....
[/QUOTE]It's been a very long time since I went to cebu but Waterfront used to be "the" place to get lookers in lapu-lapu but that was quite a while ago. Google "Aurora Entertainment & Restaurant".

Their are also a be bars on the road to the 2nd bridge after the gaisano mall turn left instead of right onto that road. That pic is from "Gurls Friend KTV Bar" not my picture found it was dated Nov. 2023 , was called something else when I used to hang out in lapu-lapu would like to know if this area is still active if you do get to these places shoot us an update. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2919632]Sorry, but if we are talking like for like, I've got to disagree. It's much better to pay the tourist tax and buy locally. Here's the math*: Now, if you talking taking a good city giro away for the weekend for the price of a bikini, turn that's different. An all expenses paid trip for a hooker? Never again. 😁..[/QUOTE]You took a hooker away on a dream, a fantasy and you paid extra for that. We have all been there in one form or another. Big parts of this and the wider leisure industry run on it, glamorous escorts, seeking arrangements, the Olympics and the like.

Paying for Disneyland is fine but the real quesiton is when do we get off the carasel and leave Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and the rest of them to others.

Case in point: I am thinking of bringing my sweetie to her home place, a bamboo shack in nowhereseville for her week off work. It won't break the bank (I hope) but do I really want to be eaten alive by mosquitoes and wonder if my money and papers will get nicked, and if her family will continue to make predictable comments about my relative advanced years? I also know she is talking to other guys and maybe more, I don't mind that, as she is human with her own ambitions but should we pay extra in time, money and hassle for their dreams?

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2919536]Lots.

Use the FB walking groups as many advertise there, also the bars, malls are full of cuties as well as use the dating sites.

If based ion Mactan I would not go Cebu as the journey can be slow and painful etc.[/QUOTE]Thanks Roger, Yes I've done the hike into Cebu City in the past and this time will be a business trip with a night, maybe two, staying near the airport. I'll do my research on the bars. Never knew about FB walking groups. Never-the-less, I've always found a way in the PH _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2919632]Sorry, but if we are talking like for like, I've got to disagree. It's much better to pay the tourist tax and buy locally. Here's the math*:

Now, if you talking taking a good city giro away for the weekend for the price of a bikini, turn that's different.

An all expenses paid trip for a hooker? Never again. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

* Yes, old number but it would only get worse with today's figures.[/QUOTE]Thanks G, I suppose all situations are different.

From my previous experience it worked out well. No airfares required, just a cheap bus and fastcat ride, hotel was previously booked by me for two (which was just the same price for one) and I basically had her available for sex on tap without having to deal with the daily negotiations and bar fines.

Sure, she liked to eat but it was no different to taking a Western girl out to dinner every night on vacation. Only difference was, I knew I'd get some action afterwards when we went back to our room.

And I felt comfortable knowing all my cash went in her pocket and not the mama or a dodgy bar owner.

And, she still performs her tricks for me freelance if we're in the right place at the right time whenever I return.

(Disclosure: I still look for other talent though) _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2919653]You took a hooker away on a dream, a fantasy and you paid extra for that....[/QUOTE]True. My post was an editted reply to Phil purely about the $$ In my case, based purely upon that criteria, it didn't add up. Have a look at the original post in full and I list many other criteria. Some were a disaster, some ok and some great.

I'm not totally against BYO. Just need to select the right girl, location, duration and activities.

Enjoy. G.

I have an issue with my lady friend. She gets one week off around new Year, including scheduled days off, new year and holidays. I had offered to bring her wherever she wants. She wants to go back visit home in the outback, which is fine only 1. I don't fancy the mosquitos or the bamboo shack or the hassle of early morning flights etc and be. I want to shop around, as does she.

She is a nice woman with some personal, wholesome objectives I don't even want to hint at. But she works really hard and is exhausted. That is her life and I respect her.

But I don't eant to fly half way round the world for a week of mosquitoes and some months tinkering around, waiting for her day off, which she has to use to recuperate. I had planned to work at a separate project as well, which is dear to me.

Much dearer than she is, if truth be told.

I am not planning to travel until nearer the end of the year but here is my proposed solution. Sling her a few hundred $$ to allow her go home and then paddle my own canoe. There is the added complication that we are both well known at the hotel as it adjoins her place of work but that is not a major issue if I dodge her.

Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?

[QUOTE=Jarango;2919900]Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?[/QUOTE]There are several remittance services similar to WU. You make an account on one of them (such as Remitly or World Remit), and on that account you link your credit card or bank ATM card. Then you can send money from your CC or bank account to the girl for cash pickup at any number of locations (for a fee), such as Cebuana, LBC, or BDO. When you send the money thru Remitly, you enter her full name as it is on her ID. Remitly gives you a reference number. You copy / past the reference number to your girl, and she can go pick it up.

Once in Phils, get a Smart or Globe SIM card, register it, and get a verified GC account. That way, when you are in your home country, you can GC directly to your girl's GC in Phils. Keep in mind that when sending GC, the girl will lose 2% (or more) of the money she picks up as a cash-out fee (some sari stores will cash-out for GC, and might charge as much as 10% fee). Hence when sending to her, she may request that you add 2% extra so that she can pick up the full amount.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2919923]There are several remittance services similar to WU. t.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I have some of those apps and I think my confusion arose with some BS about her ID. I think I want to pay her off but let her down gently with redundancy pay.

As I am researching fllights (see below) and hookers, she sent me a link to some midde aged Pinay tending to a washed up Brit. Though I see where she is coming from, I don't intend finishing my days like that.

On the subject of planes, skyscanner and kayak give great deals until you click through on them. Booking through the airline, rather than the scrapers seems to be the surest.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2919900]I have an issue with my lady friend. She gets one week off around new Year, including scheduled days off, new year and holidays. I had offered to bring her wherever she wants. She wants to go back visit home in the outback, which is fine only 1. I don't fancy the mosquitos or the bamboo shack or the hassle of early morning flights etc and be. I want to shop around, as does she.

She is a nice woman with some personal, wholesome objectives I don't even want to hint at. But she works really hard and is exhausted. That is her life and I respect her.

But I don't eant to fly half way round the world for a week of mosquitoes and some months tinkering around, waiting for her day off, which she has to use to recuperate. I had planned to work at a separate project as well, which is dear to me.

Much dearer than she is, if truth be told.

I am not planning to travel until nearer the end of the year but here is my proposed solution. Sling her a few hundred $$ to allow her go home and then paddle my own canoe. There is the added complication that we are both well known at the hotel as it adjoins her place of work but that is not a major issue if I dodge her.

Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?[/QUOTE]Shit it looks like you're in a bit of a spot there Jarango. From what you've told us, I'd go for the one who is 'much dearer' (assuming closer to you, as opposed to more expensive). No need to send through cash if you're planning to cut ties and go elsewhere. Just call it quits if you have to.

Obviously everyone has emotional connections to certain girls, but over many years I've discovered we're all 'playing the game'.

Their intentions are no different to ours. Play the game and enjoy yourself. I've never sent any girls money despite numerous requests after bedding them, so I'll leave it with some more senior members to advise how to compensate her. Just my experience. Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2919933]Their intentions are no different to ours. Play the game and enjoy yourself. I've never sent any girls money despite numerous requests after bedding them, so I'll leave it with some more senior members to advise how to compensate her. Just my experience. Phil.[/QUOTE]I will be off somewhere else in late summer, after which I will contact here and sling her a few hundred $$, so she can go back home for her break and not eat into her savings. She is not a hooker but it is hard to stay straight in Angeles which is a one trick town. That gives me a clean break. She sent me a video tonght of some Brit guy with a stroke being tended to by his Pinay GF. She probably sees that future with me but I don't. She sees it nto in a bad way but that is the scope of her vision.

I need to go on with my life and not just have a conversation about "how was your day", 6 pm in Manila -= 12 noon in Amsterdam every day.

I could go to India and pick up with some chick on a dirt track, whose life consists of eating, sleeping and shitting on that dirt track and using cow paddies to stay warm. There are many things to admire avout working class Pinays but there life is not our life. The gulf is too big and it is a fantasy to beeive we can cross it.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2919989]I will be off somewhere else in late summer, after which I will contact here and sling her a few hundred $$, so she can go back home for her break and not eat into her savings. She is not a hooker but it is hard to stay straight in Angeles which is a one trick town. That gives me a clean break.[/QUOTE]Hi J. I see Westie has given you some great advice re: slinging her some cash.

Way more than half of the girls I have in 'my little black book' are not hookers. However (and this probably applies more so to inquisitive newcomers to this forum) I'm wise enough to know that those girls most probably have another five of 'me' lined up as soon as I head back home. It's basic Filipina economics and I get it. They're providing a service and there's guys prepared to pay for it.

There's probably two or three I know which could be potentially keepers, but I have a business based an eight hour flight away and whilst I'm absent from the PH, I know they could be getting up to anything. It's easier for me to just have a great time whenever I return on multiple occasions for business every year and play the field.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2919900]Also, whqt is the best way for a non Gcash guy (me) to sling her some $$ (not WU) wehn she does not have a bank account?[/QUOTE]You can select mobile money with Remitly and send to GCash.

Hello everyone,

Visiting Cavite Philippines next week specifically General trias area. Any recommendations for massage with extra / escorts and where can I find them? Also does grab work around cavite all the time? Please help a brother out.

Thanks.

Today (Sunday) I decided to make the one hour drive to Butuan City to buy supplies at the SM mall. During my numerous weekly visits over the past two years, I've made eye contact with several girls but just attributed it to the novelty of being a somewhat rare foreign man walking without a wife or girlfriend.

But today it hit me that there is at least one group of mall-walking hookers hanging out there. Upon arriving at 10:30 am, I headed into the SM department store. As I was checking out the insulated flasks, a young lady stops by and begins eyeing the merchandise. Our eyes met and I smiled, then she walks over and asks if I have a wife.

Negative, I replied. At that time a salesgirl stops by to assist me. The young gal left, but apparently was stalking me as I did not notice her as she stepped beside me on the escalator. She then asked if she could give me her phone number, but I replied that I'd left my mobile in the car.

When we reached the top, she nervously jetted off in another direction. As luck would have it, after 10 minutes I spotted her again and we exchanged numerous glances while walking on the first floor.

My interest was piqued, and my senses were heightened, so I decided to take the initiative. We started walking together and when we got to a quiet area, I came right out and asked if she did "short time", and she replied affirmatively.

I then asked her age and price and she said, "18 but running 19, and payment is up to you". As I wasn't super horny, I offered P1500, which she accepted. Then I mentioned I needed to stop by Watsons to purchase some condoms, and she replied "why?". Nah, after a case of Chlamydia a few years ago, I always play it safe.

Tall for a Filipina, I'd guess she was 5' 5". Solid but not chubby body with big knockers, long hair, cute smile, and a fairly pretty face. Very nice personality but somewhat shy, which made her quite endearing.

No need to go into much detail about "the deed", but she was compliant and sweet. No BJ but she rubbed "it" for around 15 minutes as we kissed. Her box was extremely tight, and I had a hard time inserting my little buddy. But all's well that ends well.

She and two friends often walk SM looking for foreigner customers. Another girl gets the most action within the trio, and after viewing her pic I can see why. Short, petite, dark skin, long straight hair, and a killer face. Exactly what most Caucasian guys seem to be looking for. I hope we cross paths the next time I go.

By the way, I've visited Butuan's Gaisano and Robinson's malls on hundreds of occasions and never been approached by a working girl. Guess I need to stop at SM more often.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2921253]
Negative, I replied. At that time a salesgirl stops by to assist me. The young gal left, but apparently was stalking me as I did not notice her as she stepped beside me on the escalator. She then asked if she could give me her phone number, but I replied that I'd left my mobile in the car.
[/QUOTE]Great report Joe. I bought a cheap phone in a store on Macatan Cebu on one of my very first visits and the girl selling it set up everything for me. Within half an hour, I got a text from 'the sales lady' asking if I wanted to meet up after she finished work. The PH is always full of wonderful surprises _ Phil.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2921253]No need to go into much detail about "the deed", but she was compliant and sweet. No BJ but she rubbed "it" for around 15 minutes as we kissed. Her box was extremely tight, and I had a hard time inserting my little buddy. But all's well that ends well.

She and two friends often walk SM looking for foreigner customers. Another girl gets the most action within the trio, and after viewing her pic I can see why. Short, petite, dark skin, long straight hair, and a killer face. Exactly what most Caucasian guys seem to be looking for. I hope we cross paths the next time I go.[/QUOTE]KIJ: Good province report. Will PM you.

The unusual can happen in the province. A few years back I was in a city near this one. I had a regular there for about a year. One day she showed up with this 19 yo in tow, Gina. Gina is tiny and was wanting to earn money to buy a cell phone. We came to terms for the afternoon's 2-pop session and had a lovely time. Gina would become a semi-regular for a number of years. Phils is like a box of chocolates: Never know what you're going to get.

Just heard from one of my Sabang girls that Marti's Bar in the alley is up for sale with a 12 year lease for 7,000,000 Pesos (USD 119,000).

A bar with three rooms above for accommodation or short term visits.

Personally, and after working in the alcohol industry, if I bought a bar in the PH, I'd have a heart attack within a year after 'interviewing' protentional staff.

And it's a long trike / boat / bus / car ride to the nearest decent hospital from Sabang.

I'll be back there in August and if it hasn't been snapped up by then, I'll check it out and give you an update.

Just assuming the Koreans will move in on it in the mean time.

Phil.

Good morning gents. An example of what can be tap when you get out of the big city. This one was brought to me by a regular girl. All part of the 'Friends & Family' tradition.

Will be returning to the PH and want to do some beach tourist stuff, like visiting El Nido. Not much info on the place, except few bars. But my experience is the bars are never the same as the ones in AC. Any suggestions on where to find girls in El Nido. Not really info BYO girl, but have a pinalove account. Even on there, the number of girls are scares and it's hard to tell if they live far away. Nothing sucks more than setting up meetings for weeks and months and then she doesn't show. I like to find my treasures at the destination, so info on where to go. Or info on the search would be helpful.

Suggestions on the number to nights in El Nido to do the touristy stuff. Place to visit, eat, etc. Are all helpful. Last time I went to Moalboal Cebu, and found maybe one or two girls who were looking for friends, but none of them were of interest to me. Pinalove doesn't have too many girls in the area either.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2929571]Will be returning to the PH and want to do some beach tourist stuff, like visiting El Nido. Not much info on the place, except few bars. But my experience is the bars are never the same as the ones in AC. Any suggestions on where to find girls in El Nido. Not really info BYO girl, but have a pinalove account. Even on there, the number of girls are scares and it's hard to tell if they live far away. Nothing sucks more than setting up meetings for weeks and months and then she doesn't show. I like to find my treasures at the destination, so info on where to go. Or info on the search would be helpful.

Suggestions on the number to nights in El Nido to do the touristy stuff. Place to visit, eat, etc. Are all helpful. Last time I went to Moalboal Cebu, and found maybe one or two girls who were looking for friends, but none of them were of interest to me. Pinalove doesn't have too many girls in the area either.[/QUOTE]M: Can you show us a link to your previous Moalboal trip report? You asked questions of us back in 2019, but you never filed any descriptive field reports of your visit.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2929571] Any suggestions on where to find girls in El Nido. Not really info BYO girl, but have a pinalove account. Even on there, the number of girls are scares and it's hard to tell if they live far away. Nothing sucks more than setting up meetings for weeks and months and then she doesn't show..[/QUOTE]You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show. It is like that parakeet in The Sopranis who coments on a guy getting a facelift beofre being sent to the can.

Hookers are not going to wait for tire kickers.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2929581]You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show....[/QUOTE]I've never understood why guys insist on this.

Option 1: I'm in Hotel X. Want to come over and blow me?

Option 2: I'm in mom's basement in Nebraska. If I save up some money; if I get my holidays approved; if I can find some discount airfares; if I decide not to go to Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia, or any of 1000 other monger destinations; if I don't fall in love in Manila and actually make it to El Nido; if I don't meet someone else on the beach first; if I don't lose your phone number; if I don't throw a hissy fit at your overpricing, will you come to my hotel and blow me? I should arrive in November or December.

Which is going to be more successful? 😔.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2929581]You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show. It is like that parakeet in The Sopranis who coments on a guy getting a facelift beofre being sent to the can.

Hookers are not going to wait for tire kickers.[/QUOTE]Best way is to just go there. Wear a sandwich board and walk around. Write on the sandwich board with some heart signs. "Looking for love short time is ok".

Don't waste your time weeks or months in advance.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2929571]\ Last time I went to Moalboal Cebu, and found maybe one or two girls who were looking for friends, but none of them were of interest to me. Pinalove doesn't have too many girls in the area either.[/QUOTE]Mate, from a lot of experience, a beautiful beach and action experience isn't easy to find in the Phils. As you'd know, Moalboal is only good for checking out sardines. Great to witness, but apart from that, it left a lot of time for reading a book. The best results I've had was in Boracay with freelancers, but although the place is nice, it's not world class as it's promoted. I've also asked the question here about El Nido and the response has been it's basically tricky to find some action. If you want to waste a lot of time on dating sites, go for it. Just ask the locals or the hotel staff at a quality beach location in the Phils and you'll generally get pointed in the right direction. Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2929655]I've never understood why guys insist on this.

Option 1: I'm in Hotel X. Want to come over and blow me?

Option 2: I'm in mom's basement in Nebraska. If I save up some money; if I get my holidays approved; if I can find some discount airfares; if I decide not to go to Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia, or any of 1000 other monger destinations; if I don't fall in love in Manila and actually make it to El Nido; if I don't meet someone else on the beach first; if I don't lose your phone number; if I don't throw a hissy fit at your overpricing, will you come to my hotel and blow me? I should arrive in November or December..[/QUOTE]I'm thinking you've completely 'nailed it' there G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2929580]M: Can you show us a link to your previous Moalboal trip report? You asked questions of us back in 2019, but you never filed any descriptive field reports of your visit.[/QUOTE]Report. No girls whatsoever. All tourist. There was a thick girl playing pool that may have been a freelancer. And so what if I had asked questions. I have posted stuff here and there. Are you the international sẽ guide police now, chill out. If you don't want to provide advice, then don't. You took it out of your time to go and.

Investigate for nothing. Get a life.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2929581]You chat with some hooker for weeks and months znd then no show. It is like that parakeet in The Sopranis who coments on a guy getting a facelift beofre being sent to the can.

Hookers are not going to wait for tire kickers.[/QUOTE]Girls. Hookers. Whatever you want to call them. Just the scarcity of girls on pina is indicative of the experience to be found. Hoping there is more there than I can find but I doubt that's the case.

I don't really understand the sorpranos reference so sure.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2929655]I've never understood why guys insist on this.

Option 1: I'm in Hotel X. Want to come over and blow me?

Option 2: I'm in mom's basement in Nebraska. If I save up some money; if I get my holidays approved; if I can find some discount airfares; if I decide not to go to Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia, or any of 1000 other monger destinations; if I don't fall in love in Manila and actually make it to El Nido; if I don't meet someone else on the beach first; if I don't lose your phone number; if I don't throw a hissy fit at your overpricing, will you come to my hotel and blow me? I should arrive in November or December.

Which is going to be more successful? 😔.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I've chat with girls from dating sites and have met them when I get to town. So the two opinions you wrote aren't necessary the only way things happen. Not everyone is looking for quick fucks and can tell when their grandmas aren't sick. You've been in the Philippines too long where you think girls are after you social security check, they are. But sorry you did read my post wrong, as the question is, hey are ther girls there? I've looked on pina and it doenst instill the abundance found elsewhwre.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2929758]Best way is to just go there. Wear a sandwich board and walk around. Write on the sandwich board with some heart signs. "Looking for love short time is ok".

Don't waste your time weeks or months in advance.[/QUOTE]Yep, seems like the reaction is not very positive. I enjoy chatting one line but won't count on that avenue to meet girls.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2929780]Mate, from a lot of experience, a beautiful beach and action experience isn't easy to find in the Phils. As you'd know, Moalboal is only good for checking out sardines. Great to witness, but apart from that, it left a lot of time for reading a book. The best results I've had was in Boracay with freelancers, but although the place is nice, it's not world class as it's promoted. I've also asked the question here about El Nido and the response has been it's basically tricky to find some action. If you want to waste a lot of time on dating sites, go for it. Just ask the locals or the hotel staff at a quality beach location in the Phils and you'll generally get pointed in the right direction. Phil.[/QUOTE]You got it right. Even boracay had few girls in the same group. Moabal was a busy. And even Cebu wasnt as what the "internet" says. LOL if it was that easy I would not be asking here. Since the info is a bit sparse I asked the forums. Would love to find some company while I vacation but the place sounds like a byob, bring your own be**ches, spot. That's cool, thanks for the confirmation. From videos the downtown area looks promising for partying, so will take a crack at that and maybe make new friends. Will have to fly back to AC to seek fulfillment.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2930217]Report. No girls whatsoever. All tourist. There was a thick girl playing pool that may have been a freelancer. And so what if I had asked questions. I have posted stuff here and there. Are you the international sẽ guide police now, chill out. If you don't want to provide advice, then don't. You took it out of your time to go and.

Investigate for nothing. Get a life.[/QUOTE]Got one.

Sorry my good man, but its not that simple. You ask questions, we expect you to provide some feedback. It would be nice to know that if we provide you with intel, that you will provide something back this time. Neither your previous posting history, nor your current attitude indicates such. "I should have posted some reports before, I'll do better", is much better than "give me your lunch money and buzz off".

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2930303]Got one.

Sorry my good man, but its not that simple. You ask questions, we expect you to provide some feedback. It would be nice to know that if we provide you with intel, that you will provide something back this time. Neither your previous posting history, nor your current attitude indicates such. "I should have posted some reports before, I'll do better", is much better than "give me your lunch money and buzz off".[/QUOTE]I have shared many details and replies here through out the years. I don't post every single trip nor details. If you don't want to give advice bc you think I am not sharing your welcome not to. It is offensive when you pick one instance and try to make a big deal. How do people get senior status. By posting, and by sharing.

Hi guys,

I've been to White Beach many years ago on Bohol and did okay with a few locals and it was basically another diving location. I was just wondering if anyone has had any luck in Tagbilaran? I might be there for a few days for work. Thanks in advance. Phil.

I recently drove to Butuan City to attend an early-evening get-together with friends. After departing, I made a couple of passes around the city's streetwalker area, more out of curiosity than horniness.

It is located along the streets bounded by Montilla Street, "are" Calo Street, Villanueva Street, and Montilla Boulevard around the Saint Joseph Institute of Technology (called S-Jet by the locals).

FYI: ISG's goofy and unchangeable autocorrect function turns the solitary letter in the alphabet between Q and S into the word "are". So "are" Calo is correct phonetically. You guys are smart, so you'll figure it out.

Don't expect any bargains because all the girls are pimped and are expected to pay between P300-500 to the "manager" who runs that particular street corner. So, they normally ask P1500 from Joe the Foreigner, a price I know is inflated because they try to charge the foreigner tax on this seasoned local. As I have other options, I rarely draw a girl from this area anymore, but it's fun to cruise around.

By the way, the only naughty videokes (three) in the city are in the same area, on the short stretch of Montilla Street between "are" Calo and San Francisco Streets. The Black Cat and Love City strip clubs are nearby, too. Ask any local trike driver for directions.

On one dimly lit corner I spottled a long-time female manager and her three girls. I've dealt with her a few previous times, and she knows what I like in a girl, plus over the years she's heard the word that I'm clean, honest, and unconfrontational.

She flagged me down on my second pass, so I stopped and lowered my window. She says, "Joe, I have a new girl, first night, needs to money to pay for school supplies, one thousand pesos".

Ahhh yes, this is the weekend that all Filipino parents of school-aged kids dread. Public school classes start next Monday, and the kiddies all need supplies and uniforms. A huge budget-eater for well over 50% of Butuanons, and I could imagine the sense of desperation inside this newbie.

I'm a fairly generous guy and I don't mind helping those in need. Yet, I've previously been the "first customer" of several streetwalking Filipinas and have found their service quality to be disappointing. Not only am I their first "trick", but also usually the first foreigner they've ever talked to, much less been intimate with. They are a bit scared, shy, and inhibited and simply hoping they survive the event.

So, in a moment of weak generosity, I said yes. The pimp gave the girl a 10 second speech in the Visayan language, then she got into my car.

30 years old with a 10-year-old daughter. Pretty face, big boobs, but a blobby body. Yeah, for the sake of charity I lowered my standards quite a bit, and I can't imagine she's going to get too many customers because usually there are some pretty cute and young gals out there who are more appealing.

We got a 3-hour air-conditioned room at a local lodge (P250) and spent about 20 minutes there. After taking separate showers, we did it "Filipino style", which means minimal foreplay. Kissed for a couple of minutes, jerked my little buddy for a minute, slapped on the condom, then let me pound her for a couple of minutes. Nothing special, but it got the job done.

Before leaving the room, I generously gave her an extra P300 to cover the anticipated pimp fee, then drove her back to her street corner.

I've learned through the years that it takes a minimum of P3000 to outfit a kid for the start of the school year, so the P1000 profit she earned makes a big difference for her. On the drive home, I basked in the glow of not only a satisfying ejaculation but also knowing my payment was going toward a worthy cause. I'm such a humanitarian.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2932706]. ... the first foreigner they've ever talked to, much less been intimate with. They are a bit scared, shy, and inhibited and simply hoping they survive the event[/QUOTE]Man, you nailed it!

After my last visit to the PH in March I can't wait to go back.

I was wondering how is the nightlife and girlie action on Palawan Island? I want to spend most of my time there but could use some company.

Thanks for the help.

For a start Sabang is quiet at the moment.

It's my third visit here where I have established a number of contacts previously. I've never been here in August though and during the low season when it's hot and humid as fuck, but still better than a winter alternative.

I arrived on Sunday and after delays and a bit of a long haul getting here, I decided not to hit the ground running. I took a walk down the infamous alley and had a few quiet beers at Marti's Bar, which is directly opposite Coco Lips. I could see whenever the doorman dragged the curtain open, there were a number of girls inside and hardly any customers.

Now being quiet can be a good thing depending how you look at it. Good, because the usually present Koreans haven't snapped up all the good lookers early on in the night and with a lack of customers in town, you're offered a good selection of choice. Not to mention cheaper hotel prices.

Night two, I decided to have a few beers in the Big Apple Cafe which is a separate bar to the hotel / restaurant and is located in the alley along from the night clubs. I'm told they don't refer to it as a bar, so it doesn't get labelled as a go-go, although there is a pole by the bar. I'd also read previously online that the girls working there are hookers. This isn't the case, as I now know a number of them. The bar generally profits from lady drinks, although the girls never openly offer their services, or does the older female manager try and hook you up with them. And although it seems a bit dodgy buying lady drinks when there's no guarantee of getting laid, at least the girls drink beers with you and not watered down liquor or fruit juice.

I hadn't seen one of the girls since my first visit to Sabang. I'd hooked up with her back then and kept in touch via messenger afterwards, but had basically dismissed her after her relentless requests for cash and sending though fake photo's of her supposedly sick kids.

She was now working there and within minutes was all over me. Deciding to keep my options open early on, I asked her for her WhatsApp details and decided to move on.

To cut a long post short, she was in my room at 1 pm this afternoon and her clothes stayed on for about five minutes. She is a little bit older than your average girl but with a hot little body and a tiny, tight, sweet pussy. She just loves it when you go down on her. All in all, it was a pretty hot two hour session under the aircon.

As she was leaving I placed 1500 p in her hand and told her to go and buy herself a present. There was no complaint about the price and the WhatsApp's been pinging since.

(I was originally going to hand her 2000 k but then thought I'd drop the offer and see what happens, as I know if it becomes a regular arrangement over the next week, she'd expect the same each time. So it is possible to set your own price).

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2938797]For a start Sabang is quiet at the moment.[/QUOTE]Are the direct bancas from Batangas back or is it still ferry to Muelle then trike mafia to Sabang?

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2938807]Are the direct bancas from Batangas back or is it still ferry to Muelle then trike mafia to Sabang?

G.[/QUOTE]Hi G,

It's still a fastcat / RoRo and then a trike ride.

There are number of 'private' craft showing up to Sabang's new pier, but what I've been told by locals is, they're generally hired by Korean dive groups and they're quite expensive if you want to make the trip solo as you'll have to hope there are other like minded people willing to make the trip and split the costs.

The trike I got the other day was 250 p and although the fastcat was delayed getting here, all wasn't too bad. Probably wouldn't want to do a trike ride in ten years though.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2931772]Hi guys,

I've been to White Beach many years ago on Bohol and did okay with a few locals and it was basically another diving location. I was just wondering if anyone has had any luck in Tagbilaran? I might be there for a few days for work. Thanks in advance. Phil.[/QUOTE]I assume you mean White beach down by Puerto Galera, so mamy beaches there may be more than one. Not really a monger question more of a destination info. Got a regular in Manila ID like to take down for a few days next month on my visit, looks fairly east to get there with just a ferry ride. Feel a bit guilty as we always just party and screw, plus I'd like to get away from Manila for a change. Is this place as good as it looks on the internet, any tips, recommendation's would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2938791]After my last visit to the PH in March I can't wait to go back.

I was wondering how is the nightlife and girlie action on Palawan Island? I want to spend most of my time there but could use some company.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Probably you will have to be more specific about where on the Palawan Island are you going to seek action, it's a huge place.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2939034]I assume you mean White beach down by Puerto Galera, so mamy beaches there may be more than one. Not really a monger question more of a destination info. Got a regular in Manila ID like to take down for a few days next month on my visit, looks fairly east to get there with just a ferry ride. Feel a bit guilty as we always just party and screw, plus I'd like to get away from Manila for a change. Is this place as good as it looks on the internet, any tips, recommendation's would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Phil nominated that he was speaking about White Beach Bohol. It's easy to mix them up as there are beaches with the same name everywhere.

To answer your question, yes, Mindoro's White Beach is quite nice. Much more of a couple's or family destination than nearby fuckfest Sabang. Taking a good girl to Sabang would likely be uncomfortable for her and truly taking coal to Newcastle.

I'm not sure how well you know the area but, despite everyone labelling the general district as Puerto Galera, there really is nothing in the true township of PG. Stick with whatever beach fits your needs.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2939034]I assume you mean White beach down by Puerto Galera, so mamy beaches there may be more than one. Not really a monger question more of a destination info. Got a regular in Manila ID like to take down for a few days next month on my visit, looks fairly east to get there with just a ferry ride. Feel a bit guilty as we always just party and screw, plus I'd like to get away from Manila for a change. Is this place as good as it looks on the internet, any tips, recommendation's would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hi G and Loca.

Yes my initial post that was quoted was referring to Bohol and its White Beach and if there was any action in Tagbilaran as I might be there for work.

I'm currently in Sabang, and as G mentions, White Beach close to here in Mindoro is basically a local's destination and not really special to tell the truth.

And yes, Sabang has been a fuckfest for me. I've stuck with my contact and she's been amazing. I have picked up the details of a few new girls and swapped WhatsApp numbers for future reference.

As for a destination close to Manila, go for it. You'll be by the (unpolluted) water and it's very laid back and a reason I return to get out of Manila and have a good time. I took a bus down to Batangas from Manila for about 300 p and then the fastcat to Puerto Galera. A 250 p trike ride will then get you to Sabang.

Now, there's only basically a few things to do here. Diving, drinking and fucking. I have chosen the latter two choices and have been successful at both.

Just an update: Half of the bars in the alley closed before midnight here tonight. There's just not the customers around in low season. So if you want to pay bar fines and grab a hottie, it's a good time to be in Sabang as the Koreans aren't here to snap them up early in the night.

The other thing is, once the bars close due to lack of business, suddenly you have a number of cute freelancers on the prowl for half the price and definitely negotiable.

Just my observation _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2939271]Hi G and Loca.

Yes my initial post that was quoted was referring to Bohol and its White Beach and if there was any action in Tagbilaran as I might be there for work.

I'm currently in Sabang, and as G mentions, White Beach close to here in Mindoro is basically a local's destination and not really special to tell the truth.

And yes, Sabang has been a fuckfest for me. I've stuck with my contact and she's been amazing. I have picked up the details of a few new girls and swapped WhatsApp numbers for future reference.

As for a destination close to Manila, go for it. You'll be by the (unpolluted) water and it's very laid back and a reason I return to get out of Manila and have a good time. I took a bus down to Batangas from Manila for about 300 p and then the fastcat to Puerto Galera. A 250 p trike ride will then get you to Sabang.

Now, there's only basically a few things to do here. Diving, drinking and fucking. I have chosen the latter two choices and have been successful at both.

Just an update: Half of the bars in the alley closed before midnight here tonight. There's just not the customers around in low season. So if you want to pay bar fines and grab a hottie, it's a good time to be in Sabang as the Koreans aren't here to snap them up early in the night.

The other thing is, once the bars close due to lack of business, suddenly you have a number of cute freelancers on the prowl for half the price and definitely negotiable.




Just my observation _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. Ill have a cutie in tow so early closing bars not a issue. Sounds like nice quite beach, a few drinking bars and fucking the rest of the time. Perfect. Just what I was looking for and not too far or expensive vs dragging her to Boracay or some other farther destination.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2939303]Thanks for the tips. Ill have a cutie in tow so early closing bars not a issue. Sounds like nice quite beach, a few drinking bars and fucking the rest of the time. Perfect. Just what I was looking for and not too far or expensive vs dragging her to Boracay or some other farther destination.[/QUOTE]Hi Loca,

It's really only quiet because it's low season. Once the Korean divers hit the place in high season you're better off bringing your own talent. It's a holiday / long weekend now, so there's more feet on the ground today, but mainly folk from Manila. As for a beach, Sabang no longer has one since they've taken a few years to make the oceanfront a boardwalk of sorts. The good news is you can easily walk around to Big La Laguna beach which is relaxed and great for lying on the sand or swimming _ Phil.

Hi Guys,

Just letting you know, I had a Filipina for lunch today and she was very tasty indeed.

On a serious note, the contact I've hooked up with this week has saved me the hassle, price and negations of the girly bars here. I 'tipped' her 2000 p today (and a few bottles of water) for a three hour service. I've found that once you have contacts, it's also a more personal experience for both.

Now for a bit of info for you all. She was a former Mamasan at Coco Lips. She said it wasn't worth the hassle in the end. Now she just recommends other girls if guys hit on her and she just takes 500 p commission and the girls negotiate on their own.

She did say that if a girl resigns from one bar within six months, they can't work in any other bars and there's obviously a bit of a 'mafia' going on, which is common worldwide in the sex industry. Girls who don't want to be 'owned' by one bar in particular and then decide to leave, commonly become freelancers apparently. The price then drops fairly dramatically.

She said the current barefine price in Sabang is 5000 p in which the girl gets half and the 'house' gets the split.

On the whole, Sabang has served me well. Laid back as usual, great views and one more lunch tomorrow before I head north _ Phil.

Hello.

I would plan to go to Sabang and Manila. My easy time in next Summer. I saw you was in Augost. I would ask how is the clima.

Alwasy raining? Very hot? Or is ok?

Is still possible to swim?

Ok, I would came for girls, but I cannot stay with them all the day long. :-the.

Thanks in advance.

Giovanni.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2939471]Hi Guys,

She said the current barefine price in Sabang is 5000 p in which the girl gets half and the 'house' gets the split.

On the whole, Sabang has served me well. Laid back as usual, great views and one more lunch tomorrow before I head north _ Phil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2942209]Hello.

I would plan to go to Sabang and Manila. My easy time in next Summer. I saw you was in Augost. I would ask how is the clima.

Alwasy raining? Very hot? Or is ok?

Is still possible to swim?

Ok, I would came for girls, but I cannot stay with them all the day long. :-the.

Thanks in advance.

Giovanni.[/QUOTE]In se asia the summer is the raining season, and when the taifuns are happening, choose wisely.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2942210]In se asia the summer is the raining season, and when the taifuns are happening, choose wisely.[/QUOTE]Last year I was in Vietnam and Thailand.

Have Philippine worster raining season than Vietnam?

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2942209]Hello.

I would plan to go to Sabang and Manila. My easy time in next Summer. I saw you was in Augost. I would ask how is the clima.

Alwasy raining? Very hot? Or is ok?

Is still possible to swim?

Ok, I would came for girls, but I cannot stay with them all the day long. :-the.

Thanks in advance.

Giovanni.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2942210]In se asia the summer is the raining season, and when the taifuns are happening, choose wisely.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2942215]Last year I was in Vietnam and Thailand.

Have Philippine worster raining season than Vietnam?[/QUOTE]I've never found the traditional weather seasons to be a deal breaker for me. However, I no longer travel Jan to April. Technically, it should be no problem but I've been caught out multiple times and trapped on islands during this period:

Trapped in Sabang due to typhoon and cancelled bancas.

Sabang again. Typhoon wiped out power and therefore ATMs. Couldn't get cash to pay my room / hotel to leave.

Trapped on Malapascua. High winds cancelled bancas.

Cebu earthquake (not strictly weather related but just added to the bad juju vibes).

All of these could have been avoided by better planning and earlier responses on my part but I just decided to go in friendlier dates.

Maybe I'm just superstitious and YMMV.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. Sabang isn't really a swimming beach. More diving and some snorkelling. There are swimming sites a Day-boat tour or an hours walk away.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2942215]Last year I was in Vietnam and Thailand.

Have Philippine worster raining season than Vietnam?[/QUOTE]I'm not a weather expert, but I would be inclined to say yes, due to the geographical location, all surrounded by water vs Thailand and Vietnam that are on "land". It also depends on how lucky you are, but if you're only coming for a short visit I would chose the October to April period. For example, by living here, I do it on reverse: I do my traveling to US and EU during June to September when the weather is nicer there and bad here.

Thanks for your reply. I do not want so many problem for getting girls. .

You wrote "I no longer travel Jan to April".

But this was not the better time to go?

I have the most of holiday in July and Augost, and that's the problem.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2942236]I've never found the traditional weather seasons to be a deal breaker for me. However, I no longer travel Jan to April. Technically, it should be no problem but I've been caught out multiple times and trapped on islands during this period:

Trapped in Sabang due to typhoon and cancelled bancas.

Sabang again. Typhoon wiped out power and therefore ATMs. Couldn't get cash to pay my room / hotel to leave.

Trapped on Malapascua. High winds cancelled bancas.

[/QUOTE]

Thank You.

I have the most of my work holiday in July and Augost and I am planning next Summer.

But if this isthe situation, I could go in April if I can get more holiday (not sure), or directly a couple of week in December 2025 (I already book December 2024).

After your informations, I think to look outside Philippine for Summer holiday.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2942298]I'm not a weather expert, but I would be inclined to say yes, due to the geographical location, all surrounded by water vs Thailand and Vietnam that are on "land". It also depends on how lucky you are, but if you're only coming for a short visit I would chose the October to April period. For example, by living here, I do it on reverse: I do my traveling to US and EU during June to September when the weather is nicer there and bad here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2942366]Thank You.

I have the most of my work holiday in July and Augost and I am planning next Summer.

But if this isthe situation, I could go in April if I can get more holiday (not sure), or directly a couple of week in December 2025 (I already book December 2024).

After your informations, I think to look outside Philippine for Summer holiday.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]From the philippines airlines website, for example:

"Advisory.

As of 02 September 2024,02:00 PM.

For the safety of our passengers, PAL has cancelled the following flights on September 2, 3 and 4, due to Tropical Storm Enteng (international name "YAGI") and the enhanced Southwest Monsoon. ".

And a wole list of cancelled flights follows. During the summer season there are 3-4 announcements like this every month. The weather may be nice where you are but bad all around you, and no flights or boats are operating. And when the rain starts, usually there is a nasty flooding mixed with sewage.

Thanks. Finally I will go to Cambogia and Thailand next Summer.

About Philippine, I would see if I can get holiday in from middle of April till beginning of May.

Otherwise I can go at the end of December, till beginning of January.

It would be less days of holiday than the ones I can get on Summer, but would I be safe? .

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2942438]From the philippines airlines website, for example:

"Advisory.

As of 02 September 2024,02:00 PM.

For the safety of our passengers, PAL has cancelled the following flights on September 2, 3 and 4, due to Tropical Storm Enteng (international name "YAGI") and the enhanced Southwest Monsoon. ".

And a wole list of cancelled flights follows. During the summer season there are 3-4 announcements like this every month. The weather may be nice where you are but bad all around you, and no flights or boats are operating. And when the rain starts, usually there is a nasty flooding mixed with sewage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2942735]Thanks. Finally I will go to Cambogia and Thailand next Summer.

About Philippine, I would see if I can get holiday in from middle of April till beginning of May.

Otherwise I can go at the end of December, till beginning of January.

It would be less days of holiday than the ones I can get on Summer, but would I be safe? .[/QUOTE]Stay off dark streets, leave your CC and passport in the room safe, and keep some extra money in your shoe and you should be fine. Oh Yeah, carry an Umbrella.

Make sure to wear shoes with laces otherwise they might take it them off along with your money, pun intended.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2942746]Stay off dark streets, leave your CC and passport in the room safe, and keep some extra money in your shoe and you should be fine. Oh Yeah, carry an Umbrella.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2942735]Thanks. Finally I will go to Cambogia and Thailand next Summer.

About Philippine, I would see if I can get holiday in from middle of April till beginning of May.

Otherwise I can go at the end of December, till beginning of January.

It would be less days of holiday than the ones I can get on Summer, but would I be safe? .[/QUOTE]Stay in tourist areas, and you will be safe, anyway there is nothing for you in other places. If you need to move in-between places thru manila or cebu, use taxis, don't walk.

Recently spent 7 days up in Tuguegarao for my cousin's wedding to a Filipina girl. She was born in the US but they got married in her ancestral hometown and it was only the 2nd time she's been to the Philippines.

It was hard to monger as lots of family were with us but I managed to get out a bit.

Stayed in the Holiday Plaza Inn in the city. The receptionists were all drop dead GORGEOUS and all under 20 years old. One was very flirty with me but didn't take it any further as my family were all in the hotel. Their Facebook has a video of the receptionsists dancing for Tiktok: [URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1926318441135523[/URL].

Hard to do research online as there's not much info but I befriended a local chap in a bar who showed me the places to go.

There's one road leading out of the city that turns into a line of Karaoke bars / thinly-disguised brothels from 6 pm onwards.

Don't expect much comfort though, dirty mattresses, no AC, curtains to separate the booths.

1000 peso for an hour with the girl. All happy for OWO but no BBFS. One promised me CIM but then puked when I unloaded a large load into her mouth, don't think she was expecting so much!

Met a few stunners but there were also some older, ugly ones working. A couple of chubby MILFs and one pregnant lady if that's your thing.

Was also recommended a Thai spa in the city. Masseuers all Filipino though, no connection to Thailand at all. Had a very nice sensual massage and blowjob there but no full sex.

I was told that if you head up even further north, you can get a girl for as cheap as 500 peso / hour in some of the small-town brothels.

Has any one been to Siargao Island, off Surigao?? Yes I know they get confusing.

Conventional wisdom is that it's byo but a local Surigao slutlet showed me a video of her on the dance floor on the island and it was packed with babes. No idea if they were for hire or girlfriends. Lots of white surfer dudes with them so I'm thinking the later. No skanky hoes hanging off grandpa's evident so I don't like my chances.

I'd like to pad my cover story but not if I'm sitting around watching a bunch of bros and their girlfriends.

Anyone got first hand experience?

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944349]Has any one been to Siargao Island, off Surigao?? Yes I know they get confusing.

Conventional wisdom is that it's byo but a local Surigao slutlet showed me a video of her on the dance floor on the island and it was packed with babes. No idea if they were for hire or girlfriends. Lots of white surfer dudes with them so I'm thinking the later. No skanky hoes hanging off grandpa's evident so I don't like my chances.

I'd like to pad my cover story but not if I'm sitting around watching a bunch of bros and their girlfriends.

Anyone got first hand experience?

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Been there, it's exactly how you imagine it, young crowd partying among themselves. Most likely the girls were not local.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2944478]Been there, it's exactly how you imagine it, young crowd partying among themselves. Most likely the girls were not local.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm going to pass.

Doesn't help that it's blowing 40 knots now too. Don't feel like going and not being able to get back.

I have had an offer from an Airbnb cleaner, so there is some options for those prepared to put in the ground work, but I'll move on

After three years clean and sober I've relapsed and my addiction to Mindanao girls is back with a vengance.

I arrived in Surigao on Fiesta week so the place was packed. Trike loads of 19 yo goddesses everywhere. Surigao Tourist Inn was full when I arrived in the afternoon so they kindly upgraded me to a larger Executive room. It's a passable hotel with helpful staff. If I was to stay again, I would stay closer to the Boulevard and centre of town.

Online searching proved immediately successful with many girls, 18 to 28, happy to meet up. "You're here? Here in town? You're here in town, now?" That was until I confessed my situation back home. Confessing being married repeatedly put an instant hard stop on any intentions to meet let alone do the hokie pokie. This was a first as I'm always very upfront and the usual reply is 'its good that you're honest' or 'but we can still be friends' as girls are on their way over to suck me dry. Not in Surigao. Didn't matter that wifie is not a Pina. Didn't matter that wifie is at home in a different continent. It ain't happening. Fuck.

I spent two days looking around town and burning up my pre-booked 3 night stay and then made plans to move on. Lunch time the last day I get a Ping. "I've never met a foreigner before. We can have a meal but can I bring my friend? Lunch was a 189 p pizza and then it was time to go back to the hotel to relax. Some light chit chat and everyone is getting on well. Then she babbles to the friend in Bisaya. I think she's telling her it's time to go but no: "Do you want a threesome? Well. Cough. Ummm. Errr. Maybe I could fit that into my schedule. The original target then proceeds to give a great BBBJ. I'm talking absolute skull fucking with full penetration and endless stamina. I have to stop her as I don't want the party to end too soon. Friend then provides a change out and gobbles away before climbing on top to grind away while the other is sucking and biting my nipples. Don't blow yet. Don't blow yet. Ok, note to self. One is a champion sucker and the other is a champion fucker. Bounce between the two without stopping and no complaints until seeds are spilt with a big smile.

They tidy up and hang around chatting but can't stay the night. "But I like to wake up to sex in the morning". Nope, sorry. Got to get back to the family. I'm thinking husbands and not arguing. "But we can come back 8 am tomorrow and stay the day".

Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.

Sure enough they come again and it's on for young and old. The damage? 1500 a piece.

Welcome to the Province.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944643]After three years clean and sober I've relapsed and my addiction to Mindanao girls is back with a vengance. I arrived in Surigao on Fiesta week so the place was packed. Trike loads of 19 yo goddesses everywhere. [/QUOTE]No! Stop! You are giving away the gold mine!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944643]Online searching proved immediately successful with many girls, 18 to 28, happy to meet up. "You're here? Here in town? You're here in town, now?" That was until I confessed my situation back home. Confessing being married repeatedly put an instant hard stop on any intentions to meet let alone do the hokie pokie. This was a first as I'm always very upfront and the usual reply is 'its good that you're honest' or 'but we can still be friends' as girls are on their way over to suck me dry. Not in Surigao. Didn't matter that wifie is not a Pina. Didn't matter that wifie is at home in a different continent. It ain't happening. Fuck.[/QUOTE]Silence is golden.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944643]Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.[/QUOTE]Mindanao girls. Can't imagine you'd find anything there. Nothing to see there in Mindanao, folks. Move along, move along.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944643]

Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.

Sure enough they come again and it's on for young and old. The damage? 1500 a piece.

Welcome to the Province.

G.[/QUOTE]Outstanding! Got to get my ass there!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944643]

Well it looks like I may not be leaving town tomorrow after all. Extend the hotel stay. Forget about the bus ticket.

Sure enough they come again and it's on for young and old. The damage? 1500 a piece.

Welcome to the Province.

G.[/QUOTE]Got to love the damage G.

I generally reward all my contacts 1500 - 2000 and it's always long time and way better bed action than anything you'd find with paying LD and a bar fine.

Had one tonight contact me via video chat on WhatsApp and I won't be seeing her until next year.

She knows she's going to get 10,000 next time I see her over five days and that's pretty huge for her.

We're also pretty good friends now due to this 'agreement' over the past few years. Her English and my Tagalog isn't fantastic, but the provincial girls fuck as well as any others IMO _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2944886]

She knows she's going to get 10,000 next time I see her over five days and that's pretty huge for her.

[/QUOTE]My standard rate for XLT has always been the equivalent of a ST per day. This sounds pretty close to what you are doing. I'd agree that this can be a serious help to her finances for a few days if her time. I've certainly never had anyone complain or refuse a repeat.

G.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=DCups;2944766]Outstanding! Got to get my ass there![/QUOTE]I did notice that the girls around town were often very cute but not the normal body type that I'm use to for Mindanao. More the petite cuties than the more statuesque girls down south. The 'more than a mouthfuls' were certainly enough for me but may not be the udders that you prefer.

To be brutally frank, the stunners were there but would not touch me for the reason given in my original report. The threesome weren't ugly but the Manila girl was definitely better looking. As is pretty normal, they definitely had other skills that compensated.

As I move around, I be sure to report on the predominant body type that I see.

Cheers. G.

So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2945495]So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.[/QUOTE]Subic to Manila to Batangas to Puerto Galera to Sabang by road and ferry doesn't look much on the map but in reality it's an epic over land trek. Expect it to take a full day at least.

By far the easiest way I have done that trip is to catch the Air Juan Sea Plane. It did run direct Subic to Sabang a couple times a week. I'm not sure if it still does but call to find out. If you are doing the above by private charter the seaplane works out cheaper let alone saving time and hassle.

Even flying via their little dock in manila would be much preferred.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2945495]So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you go pee in the men's bathroom in night moves, the add for the daily minivan to subic will stare you in the face. I think they offer also transportation + 1 night hotel package for about 1500 p, I never paid much attention to it, I don't know if that's the right price, but I remember that it appear to be cheap.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2945495]the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack[/QUOTE]You are going to have to backtrack to either Angeles or San Fernando.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2945495]Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.[/QUOTE]My guess is that it's going to cost a lot more. My hotel charges about 8 K for the hotel taxi from Angeles to Batangas (tollway included).

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2945495]I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.[/QUOTE]The cheapest way will be the public bus.

Take the bus from Olangopo to Dau (Angeles). I've never done that route. Should be easy. Or to San Fernando. San Fernando should save a few minutes, but not that much.

I've taken the public bus from Batangas to Dau (Angeles) many times. I've never taken it from Dau to Batangas, but it should be similar / easy.

From Batangas, you take the bus to Cubao (in Manila). Then you get off, and ask the staff where to take the bus to Dau. They are always helpful. So from Dau (Angeles), you just go in the opposite direction.

Note: if you take the public bus, it will hit traffic in Manila. Hotel taxi takes less than 4 hours from Angeles to Batangas (since it will take the skyway in Manila).

If you take the public bus, you will need to go very early to catch the last boat to Sabang (actually, the new pier between the town and White Beach).

I am assuming you can go via San Fernando, but I've never taken the bus from there.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2945495]So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.
I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.
Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.
As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.[/QUOTE]Been there done that in 2016. Seemed simple at the time. Cost me half my trip. Lesson learned. Just pay the money for a taxi from Subic to Batangas or better break trip up into Subic to Manila and then 2nd trip Manila to Sabang. In 2016 pulled a hammy chasing bus who still had my bags underneath and took off then had some dodgy water that was sold on the bus. End result got to Subic and sat in the shower all night. Both ends of the intestine going. Felt llike sh*t. Was so bad booked return flight home. Lesson learnt. Pay for the comfort of a taxi.

NI.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2945883]Subic to Manila to Batangas to Puerto Galera to Sabang by road and ferry doesn't look much on the map but in reality it's an epic over land trek. Expect it to take a full day at least.

By far the easiest way I have done that trip is to catch the Air Juan Sea Plane. It did run direct Subic to Sabang a couple times a week. I'm not sure if it still does but call to find out. If you are doing the above by private charter the seaplane works out cheaper let alone saving time and hassle.

Even flying via their little dock in manila would be much preferred.

Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]My bad. Looks like Juan Air didn't survive Covid.

Air Teav does land in PG though.

F.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2945886]If you go pee in the men's bathroom in night moves, the add for the daily minivan to subic will stare you in the face. I think they offer also transportation + 1 night hotel package for about 1500 p, I never paid much attention to it, I don't know if that's the right price, but I remember that it appear to be cheap.[/QUOTE]My bad, I thought you're starting in angeles city, but the same shuttle service is returning daily from subic to angeles. Maybe someone can go for a beer to night moves and take a look at the ad, or ask for details, I'm not in angeles right now.

I did the trip to puerto galera once with the minivan from royal amsterdam, but I don't remember how much it was.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944961]My standard rate for XLT has always been the equivalent of a ST per day. This sounds pretty close to what you are doing. I'd agree that this can be a serious help to her finances for a few days if her time. I've certainly never had anyone complain or refuse a repeat.

G.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Agree G.

One thing you learn over time is the negotiation process.

I don't mean to sound mean considering the poverty in many places, but the girls do try and hit up the rate to that of a gogo including the barfine.

My most successful trick has been offering them 500 p every time I cum (sorry to be blunt).

It's worked wonders for me as I've probably got a maximum of 3 shots in a session, sometimes two.

And the best thing is, they're usually back the next day and on repeat.

As someone mentioned on the forum recently, they might get 500 p in a regular job a day.

Taking this approach, everyone's a winner.

(As usual, all my contacts follow up afterwards asking for huge amounts of money due to the typhoon, sick kids and other dramas).

I tell them I will only 'reward' them while I'm with them and say _ "If I have to give every Filipina money who asks, I'd be broke".

They always come back for more.

Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2945950]Agree G.

One thing you learn over time is the negotiation process.

I don't mean to sound mean considering the poverty in many places, but the girls do try and hit up the rate to that of a gogo including the barfine.

----

They always come back for more.

Phil.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's mean especially when we are talking about XLT ie multiple days. A one off payment of 10 or 20 k is often the largest lump sum that these girls have ever seen. It's certainly a very substantial injection to their finances.

There's the true test there.

Cheers. G.

You disgusting, filthy, immoral, beautiful, amazing comrades in debauchery; thank you so much for the info. I hope it goes without saying that I'll gladly buy any of you a beer if and when we cross paths. I'll be asking a few questions in response in order to refine my schemes.

At GreenBud. I'm having difficulty finding any listing for the public bus (though I'm probably going to skip it; I'd like to discover the knowledge and keep it as a backup plan). Is there somewhere that the info is posted?

At Geoffering. What's Air Teav? Google search didn't come up with anything. Also, I'm assuming they take off from Subic / Olongapo?

At OldAndUgly. Actually, I am starting in Angeles heh. :3 I'm planning on flying into Clark and maybe just staying the night before heading out to Subic and hanging out there for some time. I enjoy the prospect of doing some diving in between banging girls (the important part) LOL! So this is the real trouble I'm having with trying to plan this out. I've tried to look up some schedules and bookings on the Victory Liner and Philtranco websites to get from Angeles City (either Clark or Dau) to Subic / Olongapo; and every search regardless of day comes up with zero. Are the buses currently not running because of the off season or something?

At PhilJoy. I like the idea of paying a Pinay 500 PHP per nut; that's hilarious. The best strategy would be to get a 3 some going and watch the girls fight over getting CIP and CIM.

But seriously guys, you rock. Thanks so much for all the input. Every little iota of info puts us one step closer to a great trip. . . And one hell of a report!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944961]My standard rate for XLT has always been the equivalent of a ST per day. This sounds pretty close to what you are doing. I'd agree that this can be a serious help to her finances for a few days if her time. I've certainly never had anyone complain or refuse a repeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2945950]I don't mean to sound mean considering the poverty in many places, but the girls do try and hit up the rate to that of a gogo including the barfine.

My most successful trick has been offering them 500 p every time I cum (sorry to be blunt).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2946059]I don't think it's mean especially when we are talking about XLT ie multiple days. A one off payment of 10 or 20 k is often the largest lump sum that these girls have ever seen. It's certainly a very substantial injection to their finances.

There's the true test there.[/QUOTE]Well put, all of the above. As this is the Other Areas forum, I'm talking about provincial girls here.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2945950]As someone mentioned on the forum recently, they might get 500 p in a regular job a day.[/QUOTE]The p500 for a day's work minimum wage might be, in reality, technically correct. But many people here work for less, in non-standard jobs (ie, washing clothes for a neighbor who has a home laundry biz). Pay might be 300 for a grueling day's work. Additionally most girls don't have any work, nor do they have access to it. Selling the slit might be an only opportunity, and selling it locally might be impossible as so many girls are giving it away. Hence, selling to a foreigner for 500 or 1000ST might be a good idea in her mind. The idea that a foreigner might toss her p7 k or p10 k for 5 days / nights with him might blow her mind (and might make a new foreigner think he's stealing it from her).

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2945950]They always come back for more.[/QUOTE]This is one of the true tests. If you think someone is paying to little, that would be impossible if the girl returns regularly, willingly.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2945495]So I'm trying to figure out how to get from Subic Bay (Olongapo) to Batangas Ferry Pier in order to get to Sabang. I've been RTFF, and I've found some conflicting information. For example, the Victory Liner (while I'm sure it exists) doesn't list any departures from Olongapo back to Angeles. Besides, that's quite a backtrack. Taking a taxi from Olongapo to Batangas is likely to cost 5 k PHP, and while that itself won't break the bank if there's a better way I'm sure you reprobates know what it is.

I've already managed to find the ferry schedule from Batangas to Puerto Galera. Sabang looks like a blast. I'm just not sure of the best way to get there from Subic Bay.

Also I've tried to look up the minibus schedule for door to door service from Angeles to Subic Bay; seems like a steal at 650 PHP. However, I can't find any listing for it online.

As always, any nudge in the right direction would be helpful and appreciated.[/QUOTE]I tried to go from Angeles to Sabang in one day and ended up stuck in Calapan overnight. Thing is, the last ferry to Sabang was at 1 pm. That was in 2023, they might have later ones now, but check the schedule before you go. The guys at the information booth at the ferry terminal recommended I go to Calapan and then take a jeepney to Sabang, but I arrived in Calapan too late. Fortunately a local I met on the ferry had his brother take me to a decent hotel and then they came back in the morning and took me to the minivan terminal.

I highly recommend breaking it up into two days and spending the night in Manila. Subic to Manila one day, then go to Sabang the next morning.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946065]At GreenBud. I'm having difficulty finding any listing for the public bus (though I'm probably going to skip it; I'd like to discover the knowledge and keep it as a backup plan). Is there somewhere that the info is posted?[/QUOTE]I guess "public bus" was an incorrect term. I meant bus companies like Victory Liner, etc.

If you go to the Victory Liner website, and if you want to go from Olongapo to Angeles, you have to select Olongapo to Dau. Dau is the bus station that serves Angeles. Cubao is the bus station that you need to go to if you want to go from Dau to Batangas (via Cubao).

BTW, Royal Amsterdam hotel in Angeles charges 7200 pesos for a car from Angeles to Batangas. 7900 for a crossover. If my memory serves me, it took about 3. 5 hours.

Also, when you get off in Batangas, be warned about touts around there. Some will want to rip you off. One had a BS story, and he said I should buy a ticket in one of those shack offices in front. Be careful about any Pinoy that wants to help you. Just go inside to the new big terminal and buy your ticket.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946065]I've tried to look up some schedules and bookings on the Victory Liner and Philtranco websites to get from Angeles City (either Clark or Dau) to Subic / Olongapo; and every search regardless of day comes up with zero. Are the buses currently not running because of the off season or something?[/QUOTE]

It comes up.

https://www.victoryliner.com/TerminalGuide.aspx

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2946118]Also, when you get off in Batangas, be warned about touts around there. Some will want to rip you off. One had a BS story, and he said I should buy a ticket in one of those shack offices in front. Be careful about any Pinoy that wants to help you. Just go inside to the new big terminal and buy your ticket.
[/QUOTE]Do not let those Aholes anywhere near you. Do not let them help you carry your bags. Do not talk or even look at them. Almost all are POS. Somehow they were able to steal my POS Nokia from me. This was 11 years ago and the phone was cheapest possible but the numbers on it cost me a lot.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946065]

At Geoffering. What's Air Teav? Google search didn't come up with anything. Also, I'm assuming they take off from Subic / Olongapo?
[/QUOTE]Sorry. Typo. I'll get this right in a minute. It's Air Trav. It exists but I can't comment on reliability etc. I've never used it. Air Juan was great.

G.

So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: [URL]https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines[/URL].

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946065]
At OldAndUgly. Actually, I am starting in Angeles heh. :3 I'm planning on flying into Clark and maybe just staying the night before heading out to Subic and hanging out there for some time. I enjoy the prospect of doing some diving in between banging girls (the important part) LOL! So this is the real trouble I'm having with trying to plan this out. I've tried to look up some schedules and bookings on the Victory Liner and Philtranco websites to get from Angeles City (either Clark or Dau) to Subic / Olongapo; and every search regardless of day comes up with zero. Are the buses currently not running because of the off season or something?[/QUOTE]Everything is kind of "fluid" in the ph, if you want to use the buses, first you have to find out from what terminal they are leaving in the direction that you want to travel, then just go there and ask from what bay the bus leaves then ask the driver or his helper for the schedule, don't trust websites or posted schedules, may be outdated. You may have to waste one hour doing this, but is better to do it in advance, without luggage instead of running around aimlessly carrying suitcases, and finding out that there is no bus. At first glance everything appears to be chaotic in the terminal, and the answers that you're going to get will make you wander if they know what they are talking about, or if they pay attention to you. Better be there earlier when you're leaving because you may end up with no seat, traveling standing in between the rows.

Also it is possible that the genesis bus coming from naia with a stop at the sm mall in ac, goes further to subic, I'm not sure, and I never asked, but it goes somewhere because some passengers remain on board.

After the Surigao threesome it was time to move on. Siargao lsland was a wash out due to wind cancelling the ferries. The mainland weather was turning worse by the day so I decided to head south. I wanted to go direct to Butuan and then to CDO but was correctly told that the eastern coast via Tandag was very scenic. I stayed just south of Tandag for two nights. Lovely place and on the beach but middle of nowhere and no girls to be seen.

From there it was the bus to Butuan. One thing I didn't realise was that the route took us past about a 1000 little schools, colleges and universities so there was just a constant stream of beautiful girls getting on and off. Forget watching a bored single mum strut around a chrome pole. For eye candy, this definitely took 1st prize.

The first day in Butuan was a non event. Alicia Guest House is new, clean and functional. Plenty of girls online and organised one to come over after work. Unfortunately at 10:30 pm we started the prepayment games so I just left it at that.

The next morning, I latched on to a gorgeous girl: tall, lean with massive jugs. 1500 per day for as long as I wanted. She even mentioned weeks which was a tad excessive.

She was an hour away in Cabadbaran. Of course, she didn't have busfare so asked for transport money. I GCashed 1000 p to her for the 200 p bus each way. The split second the transaction goes through, immediate radio silence and everything stays unread. Shit, I'm such an idiot. 'You there? Silence. Money gone, I latched onto another closer to home and she's on the way. Sure enough, another message 'sorry I was in the shower. I'm coming'. Cabadbaran girl is way more attractive than the local girl but I can't stop the moving train. Tell her that I thought she had cancelled and I'm going to see friends. Let's delay arrival to after lunch. She's ok with that. Crisis avoided.

Butuan girl arrives and she's a 3/10 drop vs the pics. Initial deal was 1500 for two shots at my leisure. However, getting old sucks and I don't want to waste a shot that could be put to better use after lunch. To be fair, she did put the effort in. One shot and I beg off tired. Give her the full 1500 because I'm a nice guy and wait for the bus to arrive. 3 pm, no arrival. 5 pm, no arrival. I message Cabadbaran but radio silence again. Looks like I've been taken. Idiot!! That evening, the Butuan girl is happy to return for fun and games including breakfast.

Mid morning I get a Ping and it's Cabadbaran. 'I'm at the station, sorry I missed yesterday, I had a fever". Sound like things are looking good. "I'm hungry can you send just 300 for breakfast". I sent you 1000 yesterday. " Mom needed rice". Clearly an attempt at milking more money, I ignored it and hit the apps again. It wasn't hard to find a replacement and she dropped around for a relaxed session.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2946302] " Mom needed rice". [/QUOTE]Great report G and thanks for the other areas info.

Over the years I've also found it a very strategic game with the girls.

I've got one at the moment that's hammering me for money, yet she was probably one of the worst performers I've had.

On the other hand, there's another I'm seeing in November for two weeks, and the deal is, I'll pay her food and 500 p per shot which she's perfectly fine with. I do know her and she's not an online pick up.

The chase can be an interesting challenge at times, but well worth it, if not for the knowledge _ Phil.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946269]So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: [URL]https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines[/URL].

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.[/QUOTE]Travel time is accurate.

Price will be impossible to get (even if you pay the tolls).

Angeles hotel taxis will charge you around 3900 (tollways included) from the airport to Angeles. Maybe you can negotiate a slightly lower price with a normal taxi. But you still have to account for the Subic to Angeles / San Fernando and the Manila to Batangas portions. And most taxis will need to account for the return trip.

I hope I'm wrong and you can get those prices.

For an inexpensive vacation after you land in Clark, do the following:

1) spend a night or 2 in Angeles.
2) take a trike or Grab to Dau bus station.
3) take the bus to Olongapo. From around there you can take that large jeepney bus or trike to the Bario Baretto bar area.
4) party on.
5) take jeepney bus or trike to Olongapo bus station. Get bus to Dau.
6) spend a night in Angeles.
7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
9) get off and take the bus to Bantagas pier.
10) get ticket to Puerto Galera (the new pier); you can't go to Sabang no more.
11) get a trike to Sabang. Previously in front, they ask for 250. Walk halfway up the street and get it for 200.
12) party and have fun.
13) get trike (was 250; you can't negotiate with the trike mafia) and ferry back to Bantagas.
14) after leaving the ferry, take the bus to Cubao. The buses should be just to the left after you leave the terminal.
15) get off and hop on a bus to Dau.

In Bantagas and Cubao, you just get onto the correct bus, and you pay the conductor in the bus. Ask the staff at the bus stations. They have always been very helpful. Plus there's a sign on the windshield stating where they are going to.

You can skip the second leg of staying in Angeles if you leave really early from Olongapo. Maybe go to San Fernando, but I haven't done that.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946269]So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: [URL]https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines[/URL].

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.[/QUOTE]Greenbud is right, 3 K is way too low, I would say if you take a taxi all the way, it will cost you around 10 k or more because the taxi will have to take the trip back empty. There is almost no travel time difference between the taxi and the bus on direct routes, they both go as fast as possible, and I think the bus is safer in case of an accident. If you're not comfortable doing the bus exchange in manila where is kind of a wild jungle, then do only angeles to batangas by taxi, or the hotel shuttle. And never plan your trip schedule too tight, in philippines nothing works according to the plan. Stay a night in angeles before going to batangas, so you can leave early in the morning because is not good to arrive late in batangas, there may be no more ferries for the day.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2946463]Travel time is accurate.

Price will be impossible to get (even if you pay the tolls).

Angeles hotel taxis will charge you around 3900 (tollways included) from the airport to Angeles. Maybe you can negotiate a slightly lower price with a normal taxi. But you still have to account for the Subic to Angeles / San Fernando and the Manila to Batangas portions. And most taxis will need to account for the return trip.

I hope I'm wrong and you can get those prices.

For an inexpensive vacation after you land in Clark, do the following:

1) spend a night or 2 in Angeles.
2) take a trike or Grab to Dau bus station.
3) take the bus to Olongapo. From around there you can take that large jeepney bus or trike to the Bario Baretto bar area.
4) party on.
5) take jeepney bus or trike to Olongapo bus station. Get bus to Dau.
6) spend a night in Angeles.
7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
9) get off and take the bus to Bantagas pier.
10) get ticket to Puerto Galera (the new pier); you can't go to Sabang no more.
11) get a trike to Sabang. Previously in front, they ask for 250. Walk halfway up the street and get it for 200.
12) party and have fun.
13) get trike (was 250; you can't negotiate with the trike mafia) and ferry back to Bantagas.
14) after leaving the ferry, take the bus to Cubao. The buses should be just to the left after you leave the terminal.
15) get off and hop on a bus to Dau.

In Bantagas and Cubao, you just get onto the correct bus, and you pay the conductor in the bus. Ask the staff at the bus stations. They have always been very helpful. Plus there's a sign on the windshield stating where they are going to.

You can skip the second leg of staying in Angeles if you leave really early from Olongapo. Maybe go to San Fernando, but I haven't done that.[/QUOTE]The more I try to plan the more I think an itinerary more along these lines is smarter. Angeles City isn't at the top of my list, but spending a couple nights there should be pretty fun. Also, not rushing and accounting for the terrible traffic is the only successful strategy for navigating a country like the Philippines. Like sitting in Bangkok rush hour. Thankfully at least they have trains that aren't subject to traffic.

OldAndUgly. You are correct. Fortunately, I'm comfortable navigating bus stations. This should be fine. Plus I'll get a couple more days in AC to fuck around.

So I had a fun an interesting thought about what to do after Sabang. If I can take a bus from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao, I could catch the ferry to Caticlan and go to Boracay next. There are several Roro Bus terminals on Mindoro, but I keep running into the same issue about finding a bus schedule. Thus, I have no idea if there's even a bus that goes there. I guess I could just take the ferry back to Batangas and then take a ferry to Caticlan Boracay if that doesn't seem feasible. Or take the ferry back to Batangas and then catch a flight from Manila to Caticlan.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2946463]Travel time is accurate.

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7) take a trike or grab early in the morning to Dau bus station.
8) get on the bus to Cubao bus station.
......[/QUOTE]There are an alternate route for interested one. From Dau to Taft ave MRT station, manila, by Genesis Bus liner. A little ride to Buendia LRT station. Hop in Jam Liner for Batangas. Jam Liner is the cheapest ride for Batangas.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946549]I could catch the ferry to Caticlan and go to Boracay next. There are several Roro Bus terminals on Mindoro, but I keep running into the same issue about finding a bus schedule. Thus, I have no idea if there's even a bus that goes there.[/QUOTE]Hey Kenji _ Basically anything you search for online regarding bus schedules is outdated or unpredictable.

All you have to do is get yourself to a terminal where they depart from and go from there. They'll be cheap and get your arse / ass on the right bus by asking the locals or the driver and conductor waiting there to depart.

As for Boracay, you're better off flying from Manila. Cebu Pacific always has cheap options and you won't be losing heaps of time on the water.

Once there, you'll find quite a lot of sexy freelancers hanging around the beach at Station 2 near the nightclubs.

I generally offer them 1500 p to stay the night with me and a bonus of 500 p a shot.

They can take it or leave it and one will always accept the offer.

Additionally, you're setting the price and not them.

It's always a good opportunity to add one to your contact list so you've got one lined up for your next visit.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2946731]Hey Kenji _ Basically anything you search for online regarding bus schedules is outdated or unpredictable.

All you have to do is get yourself to a terminal where they depart from and go from there. They'll be cheap and get your arse / ass on the right bus by asking the locals or the driver and conductor waiting there to depart.

As for Boracay, you're better off flying from Manila. Cebu Pacific always has cheap options and you won't be losing heaps of time on the water.

Once there, you'll find quite a lot of sexy freelancers hanging around the beach at Station 2 near the nightclubs.

I generally offer them 1500 p to stay the night with me and a bonus of 500 p a shot.

They can take it or leave it and one will always accept the offer.

Additionally, you're setting the price and not them.

It's always a good opportunity to add one to your contact list so you've got one lined up for your next visit.

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I had been pondering the amount of travel time lost as I could be potentially spending it with hotties. Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. Plus this means I won't have to frantically be looking for buses or vans to try to get from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao in time to catch an afternoon ferry.

So my question then is this. Is Boracay worth it? My modus operandi has always been to look for "nice" girls (*cough* as if there was such a thing as a nice Pinay LOL!) to fuck for free and then maybe use professionals as a backup. I've literally never barfined a girl before in any country, and I usually do well enough. My understanding is that Boracay is more densely populated with pros than civilians when it comes to Pinays, but there are a good mess of tourists I could try my luck with.

P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946761]I had been pondering the amount of travel time lost as I could be potentially spending it with hotties. Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. Plus this means I won't have to frantically be looking for buses or vans to try to get from Puerto Galera to Roxas or Bulalacao in time to catch an afternoon ferry.

So my question then is this. Is Boracay worth it? My modus operandi has always been to look for "nice" girls (*cough* as if there was such a thing as a nice Pinay LOL!) to fuck for free and then maybe use professionals as a backup. I've literally never barfined a girl before in any country, and I usually do well enough. My understanding is that Boracay is more densely populated with pros than civilians when it comes to Pinays, but there are a good mess of tourists I could try my luck with.

P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.[/QUOTE]You got it wrong, boracay has only few pros, and lots of civilians, not the other way around. In the nearby past, there were no pros at all, only ladyboys. Last year I've been there 3 times, and I didn't see any pros hanging around anywhere.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946761]Taking a domestic flight means I can hit the domestic terminal outside NAIA also if I'm not mistaken, and therefore I could avoid that hellhole altogether. If I can not set foot in NAIA this trip, I think I'll be much better off. [/QUOTE]I might have misunderstood this. All four terminals are located on the same grounds. They are far enough apart that you must go outside and take a taxi or a shuttle bus from one terminal to the other. If you land in Manila, you are landing here (pic, approximate terminal locations).

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946761]P.S. I really like this mercenary 500 p / nut strategy, Phil. Talk about getting a LBFM horny for your nut. I find the idea of explaining to a girl on the beach that if she can make me CIM or CIP 5 times that she can get 4 k particularly funny, like asking your cat to solve the square root of something LOL! I can just see a girl in a bikini with her sunglasses on whipping out her phone to use the calculator app. XD.[/QUOTE]Have used similar strategies. Depending on location, you could start with a base pay of p500-1000, plus p500 for each pop. In the big city that might be p2000 (or more) + p500/ pop. Or similar. For example, she wants 3000 for ST, and you'd like to get at least 2 pops in for that much. You might tell her p2000 + 500 per pop. You might get lucky and find her trying to wring 3 pops out of you. The next day the hotel maid finds you crumpled on the CR floor, dead, a dried-out husk of the man you used to be. IF you were lucky.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2946269]So I came across this grab taxi fare calculator: [URL]https://www.taxifarefinder.com/main.php?city=GrabCar-Manila-Philippines[/URL].

It seems to think that getting a taxi from Subic to the Batangas Ferry Terminal is under 3 k PHP and takes something like 4. 5 hours.

Can this be accurate? The route seems to take the Manila Skyway so traffic reporting may actually be effectively predicting the travel time.[/QUOTE]The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

[URL]https://www.sikatferrybus.com/[/URL]

I used to take Air Juan regularly till they decided to fuck their business up by taking payments from passengers online but then selling the same seats to Chinese passengers who turned up on the day for a higher price, and of course in true Filipino way the refund got lost somewhere in the ether. A potentially revolutionary service destroyed by greed and ineptitude. Covid hit them hard but the customer base they betrayed hit them even harder by not coming back once the country reopened.

Air Trav seems to be more of a corporate card (or private charter) service. I can't think of anyone who would be dumb enough to pay 10's of thousands of pesos (think 50 k+) on a one leg flight from Manila to PG out of pocket. As of now there's no reliably scheduled seaplane service I know of in PH that had the quality, scope and range that Air Juan had from 2017-2019.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2946902]You got it wrong, boracay has only few pros, and lots of civilians, not the other way around.[/QUOTE]OK. I agree with the above write-up from my experience during my 1 trip in 2022.

Along the beach boardwalk in Station 2, there is one club (outdoors; in front of the boardwalk; can't remember the name; you can't miss it around 8 or 9 pm) where there are a lot of tourist, free live music, and FLs along the boardwalk. It seems none of the FLs are in the club. I couldn't find any other areas; but I didn't look since I BYOG.

Are there anywhere else? It seems none has been reported on this board.

IMO, the only thing "good" about Borocay is the beach. There isn't much else.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2946921]The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

[URL]https://www.sikatferrybus.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Is it up and running? I guess so since the site is updated since it says Balatero Pier (in Sabang / Puerto Galaera).

I took that a few times.

One problem is that it is leaves Ermita (at City State Tower Hotel) in the morning. So you can't really get there if you leave from Angeles. Also, that bus (several years before Covid) was uncomfortable. It seems they never changed the shocks.

But if you want to visit LA Cafe (sketchy area) and go to Sabang/Puerto Galera, staying at City State Tower Hotel is good; it is walking distance from LA Cafe and the Ski Kat bus starts right in front of the hotel.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2946931]Is it up and running? I guess so since the site is updated since it says Balatero Pier (in Sabang / Puerto Galaera).

I took that a few times.

One problem is that it is leaves Ermita (at City State Tower Hotel) in the morning. So you can't really get there if you leave from Angeles. Also, that bus (several years before Covid) was uncomfortable. It seems they never changed the shocks.

But if you want to visit LA Cafe and go to Sabang/Puerto Galera, staying at City State Tower Hotel is good; it is walking distance from LA Cafe and the Ski Kata bus starts right in front of the hotel.[/QUOTE]Yep. Up and running. Used it earlier this year.

It's fairly easy to get to the departure point from angeles. Hop on Genesis bus to NAIA from SM Clark (first bus is like 5 am and new bus ever hour after that), 90 min to 2 HR journey, then grab to Ermita. Total cost about 600 pesos. The sikat bus seemed fine to me.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2946922]OK. I agree with the above write-up from my experience during my 1 trip in 2022.

Along the beach boardwalk in Station 2, there is one club (outdoors; in front of the boardwalk; can't remember the name; you can't miss it around 8 or 9 pm) where there are a lot of tourist, free live music, and FLs along the boardwalk. It seems none of the FLs are in the club. I couldn't find any other areas; but I didn't look since I BYOG.

Are there anywhere else? It seems none has been reported on this board.

IMO, the only thing "good" about Borocay is the beach. There isn't much else.[/QUOTE]Right before covid was all dry, and there was a PR guy nicknamed "Bob Marley" hanging around 7/11, solving small problems for a few peso, he took me to one house located half way on the road to the other side of the island, there were 10-15 girls all in red dresses and a mamasan, all good looking. I took one to my hotel for 1. 5 k and by the smirk on the mamasan's face I realized that I was getting overcharged, but actually was a bargain for me. I don't know if that place still exists, but since they were servicing locals only, there should be something similar in existence since there is a demand and a supply. Last year when I went back there I observed the surroundings by default, but I didn't specifically look hard for any pros, because every time I had girls with me, first time two, second time one, and third time 3 of them which was too much. Now I live in a small place similar to Boracay and I know how things work, therefore if there are any FL around the night club, probably they are not locals, but girls coming there from a big city to make some money, therefore the lack of constant supply, I encountered the same situation in Malapasqua, girls from Cebu doing the weekend hook up tour.

I arrived in CDO with a couple of buddies. There must have been a big function on somewhere as many hotels were full and could only give us one nights accommodation. I stayed at the Red Doors for one night then a condo in Centrio Towers for the rest of the stay. All well located, well priced and walking distance to everything I needed.

We asked around for where to go for entertainment and were directed to Corrales Ave. It's essentially a street of clubs and bars, all within walking distance of each other. It's makes a good area for a pub crawl. Jakals had a good live band and crowd. However all tables were groups of friends partying together. No roaming freelancers and it's not a pick up joint. Lots of eye candy but that's it. Most of the other bars in the street were much quieter, surprising for late on a Saturday night. An exception was FT Nightlife, a hole in the wall bar diagonally across the road from Jakals. Much busier than the other places, again with a friendly vibe but not a pickup joint.

Online with PinaLove proved a surprise with much fewer girls logged on at one time than I expected for a college town the size of CDO. It wasn't rare to only see a couple of girls online. Of those girls, there was the complete range of types. Some stunners milking sponsors for little return, some girls doing very short quickies between class and before mom finds out, some girls simply bored and chatting forever.

I met two of the shyest girls I have ever come across in my life. I'm not talking a little reserved. I'm talking voices so quiet that I had to lean 3/4 across the table just to be able to hear them. Obviously the first time that they had been anywhere near a foreigner. That went went nowhere, clearly far too uncomfortable to follow me back to the room. Other girls didn't work out for a few different reasons: 'buy me and the table of my friends drinks' girl; a 10 k a night girl; a girl who could only squeeze in a rushed quickly before running back to school.

All up, CDO was a good place for a night out but, for me, a mongering wash out. I'm sure more time spent here would deliver returns but it's time for me to move on.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947074]All up, CDO was a good place for a night out but, for me, a mongering wash out. I'm sure more time spent here would deliver returns but it's time for me to move on.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I wrote a similar report a decade ago about CDO. Same experience. I was in town for a week. My first two days I spent at Starbucks, meeting girls for coffee dates that I'd lined up from DIA prior to arrival. All of them either blatantly said they'd come to my hotel after a coffee, or coyly said it. None of them followed through. I struck out with more than a dozen girls in just two days. Bunches of beauties walking around, but none available due to shyness. What provincial girls say in online chat prior to arrival often has nothing to do with their actual behavior.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2947094]I wrote a similar report a decade ago about CDO. Same experience. I was in town for a week. My first two days I spent at Starbucks, meeting girls for coffee dates that I'd lined up from DIA prior to arrival. All of them either blatantly said they'd come to my hotel after a coffee, or coyly said it. None of them followed through. I struck out with more than a dozen girls in just two days. Bunches of beauties walking around, but none available due to shyness. What provincial girls say in online chat prior to arrival often has nothing to do with their actual behavior.[/QUOTE]To be fair, I was my worst enemy. I put in minimal effort and received minimal rewards:

I was in a college town but didn't do much to put myself in college girls' pathway. Walked everywhere, ate a high end malls, basically kept to myself etc. If I had eaten at Gaisano, jumped on Jeeps, struck up conversations etc it certainly wouldn't of hurt. I should have invested time into finding the boarding houses and surrounding cheap eateries.

CDO is full of students but many are far from broke students. One I met was doing her Medical internship at the local teaching hospital. Another was doing some sort of MBA lite. I didn't see or speak to anyone studying some bullshit tourism & catering certificate on how to fold napkins.

I also mistakenly brought my Cebu game to CDO which is essentially hit the internet and wait for the pussy to flow. Big mistake. BIG. CDO is very much meet and greet. Strike up conversations face to face and seek out the friends of friends. Obviously this takes time. Unfortunately my personality is that once I'm over a place, I move on even if logic says that more time would deliver rewards.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2946921]The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

[URL]https://www.sikatferrybus.com/[/URL]

I used to take Air Juan regularly till they decided to fuck their business up by taking payments from passengers online but then selling the same seats to Chinese passengers who turned up on the day for a higher price, and of course in true Filipino way the refund got lost somewhere in the ether. A potentially revolutionary service destroyed by greed and ineptitude. Covid hit them hard but the customer base they betrayed hit them even harder by not coming back once the country reopened.

Air Trav seems to be more of a corporate card (or private charter) service. I can't think of anyone who would be dumb enough to pay 10's of thousands of pesos (think 50 k+) on a one leg flight from Manila to PG out of pocket. As of now there's no reliably scheduled seaplane service I know of in PH that had the quality, scope and range that Air Juan had from 2017-2019.[/QUOTE]This is some very useful info. I think this is the missing piece to the puzzle.

GreenBud. Good to know about City State Tower Hotel. I wasn't planning on hitting LA Cafe, but I might just for the amusement now. Speaking of which, what is the likelihood I can find a nice civvie out in Boracay then? Tinder and PL work at all out there you think?

OldAndUgly. Same question as above about scoring civvies in Boracay. Is it possible to online game it up before my arrival there? Or am I looking at what they call OSP in the military (on-site procurement)? I'm not planning on BYOG anywhere this trip, especially not to party for 2 weeks in Boracay.

Geoffering. Sorry you struck out in CdO. The MO I was planning on employing in CdO was going to be similar. Glad you pointed this out as a potential mistake before I wasted 2 weeks there. Good lookin out.

Disrupting this discussion of how to get off the beaten path, to bring you something small, and tight, 24, and off the beaten path.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2946921]The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.[/QUOTE]Hi RM & Kenji.

I usually grab a cheap white cab from my hotel and get a Jam Liner bus from Buendia Bus Terminal to Batangas port for under 500 p. From there you can get a fast cat through to PG and then a trike to Sabang. I use the Si-Kat service to get back to Manila as there's a small little store in Sabang that organizes everything for you.

As for Boracay, I've done well there. Yes, there's FL action around station 2 on the beach, however my old trick of getting friendly with hotel staff has worked the best. I usually approach the security guys (after tipping them 50 p every time I arrive back at the hotel to build rapport) I just ask if they know where I can find a pretty girl and usually I'll have a hot friend or relative in my room within an hour for about 2000 p.

If you think outside the box, there's always a way and without spending all your time on dating sites _ A complete waste of time for me.

I'll be back in Boracay next year, but I'm taking a Sabang contact with me. I know I'll have to feed her, but she fucks like a demon and I give her 1500 p a day in 'spending money'.

Agreed RM, Boracay doesn't live up to the hype, but a decent beach location and sex on tap is a nice option compared to the smell of sewage and a hectic Manila.

Just my opinion _ Phil.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2946921]The most efficient and cost effective way to get to PG is via SiKat bus and ferry service. One way 1500 pesos inclusive of bus and ferry fee.

[URL]https://www.sikatferrybus.com/[/URL]

I used to take Air Juan regularly till they decided to fuck their business up by taking payments from passengers online but then selling the same seats to Chinese passengers who turned up on the day for a higher price, and of course in true Filipino way the refund got lost somewhere in the ether. A potentially revolutionary service destroyed by greed and ineptitude. Covid hit them hard but the customer base they betrayed hit them even harder by not coming back once the country reopened.

Air Trav seems to be more of a corporate card (or private charter) service. I can't think of anyone who would be dumb enough to pay 10's of thousands of pesos (think 50 k+) on a one leg flight from Manila to PG out of pocket. As of now there's no reliably scheduled seaplane service I know of in PH that had the quality, scope and range that Air Juan had from 2017-2019.[/QUOTE]Go to PITX to take a bus to batangas then buy the ferry ticket to PG. I think this combination is cheaper and more flexible schedule.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2947161]GreenBud. Good to know about City State Tower Hotel. I wasn't planning on hitting LA Cafe, but I might just for the amusement now. Speaking of which, what is the likelihood I can find a nice civvie out in Boracay then? Tinder and PL work at all out there you think?[/QUOTE]There's a lot of Pinays in Borocay. But they will be there with their friends. I am assuming you can hit on them if you have game. For me, I don't want a relationship, nor do I want to give them that false impression. I think that is unethical. I would rather pay for it.

Never done online stuff in Asia. From what I'm reading, it seems I should.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2947161]This is some very useful info. I think this is the missing piece to the puzzle.

GreenBud. Good to know about City State Tower Hotel. I wasn't planning on hitting LA Cafe, but I might just for the amusement now. Speaking of which, what is the likelihood I can find a nice civvie out in Boracay then? Tinder and PL work at all out there you think?

OldAndUgly. Same question as above about scoring civvies in Boracay. Is it possible to online game it up before my arrival there? Or am I looking at what they call OSP in the military (on-site procurement)? I'm not planning on BYOG anywhere this trip, especially not to party for 2 weeks in Boracay.

Geoffering. Sorry you struck out in CdO. The MO I was planning on employing in CdO was going to be similar. Glad you pointed this out as a potential mistake before I wasted 2 weeks there. Good lookin out.[/QUOTE]I was there 3 times last year, but I was accompanied. I didn't see no pros, but some members reported some sightings next to station 2, the truth is I wasn't really looking for action, just observing. At one time I saw 3 of them sitting at a bar, I did recognize the specific eye contact protocol, but I wasn't sure if they were ladyboys or girls.

The civilians usually come in packs, never alone, but is possible to detach one from the group after some convincing work. I'm saying this because the first time there last year (actually was in December 22) I took with me my two regular gfs that I had back then, and sometimes they were hunting fresh new meat for us and we had 4 somes, (the gfs really like it, I guess they felt empowered, negotiating in my behalf) - while we were swimming, they started talking to this beautiful girl roaming around in a cristal kaiak, and they convinced her to come with us, and she did, but nothing really happened because while we were having a drink at the bar before the deed at the villa camilla where we were staying the pack came by and took the girl with them. So there you have it, with a little convincing you may get lucky with a civilian even if she's not alone, just take her away from her friends.

About the dating apps, I used them a lot in the past, but 50% are fakes and ladyboys, 25% scams and 25% real ones. Of the 25% real ones 20% are pros and about 5% real girls trying their luck online. But I don't suggest contacting any before you get there, you may waste your time. For me using the dating app and getting results was always a bonus. If the pics are sexy then you may ask directly how much because she's a pro guaranteed.

Two weeks may become a little boring in boracay, not much there beside the beautiful beach, restaurants, couples watching the stunning sunsets, and a few thousand koreans. (some windsurfing going on on the other side of the island also).

Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere. Jumped online and the inbox quickly filled with opportunities. Sure 95% are going to flake, have to brush their cat's teeth or be otherwise unavailable but odds are still looking good.

A couple of minor hiccups but not insurmountable:

Stepped off the bus to find my inbox pinging with 'can I come over?' offers. FROM GIRLS BACK IN CDO!! Fuck!! Looks like I did leave too soon.

An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.

I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.

Enjoy. G.

To DC,

Buddy, not my usual target profile but I'm taking one for the team just for you.

Pray for me. 😜.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947349]Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere..[/QUOTE]Please disregard the above post. I was drunk and it is full of typos and factual errors.

There are no girls in Davao. Anywhere. It's a pussy waste land. Last week I begged for a BJ from a 87 yo grandma. She just laughed at me. It's that bad. Avoid the place at all costs.

Mindanao is incredibly dangerous. I was stabbed and beheaded 27 times yesterday walking to 7/11.

I will stay to spread The Word but you don't need to come. Tell your friends to stay away too.

I'll do it all myself

Apologies. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947353]Please disregard the above post. I was drunk and it is full of typos and factual errors.

There are no girls in Davao. Anywhere. It's a pussy waste land. Last week I begged for a BJ from a 87 yo grandma. She just laughed at me. It's that bad. Avoid the place at all costs.

Mindanao is incredibly dangerous. I was stabbed and beheaded 27 times yesterday walking to 7/11.

I will stay to spread The Word but you don't need to come. Tell your friends to stay away too.

I'll do it all myself

Apologies. G.[/QUOTE]In all seriousness, most people don't realize how safe Mindanao is. All they remember is hearing about Muslim rebels and natives that would kill you on sight. This may have been partly true 30 years ago, but it is super safe now, for the most part. There are still isolated areas with NPA, just like everywhere else in the Philippines, but that is pretty much it. I was in Gensan and then up in the mountains way off the beaten path (if you can call what we took to get there a road even), and it was probably the safest place I have ever been in my entire life. Just keep uour nose in your own business, and you will be fine.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947349]Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere. Jumped online and the inbox quickly filled with opportunities. Sure 95% are going to flake, have to brush their cat's teeth or be otherwise unavailable but odds are still looking good.

A couple of minor hiccups but not insurmountable:

Stepped off the bus to find my inbox pinging with 'can I come over?' offers. FROM GIRLS BACK IN CDO!! Fuck!! Looks like I did leave too soon.

An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.

I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]So it may not be readily apparent just how valuable this information is, but this is really some gold here. If you're just now getting offers from chicks back in CdO, then the environment there is such that it takes a significant amount of time to work up the market to bed worthwhile girls. If you're only going to stay there for a couple of weeks, it's not good. If you're planning on staying there for months or having a home there you can stay at part of the time, that's another thing. I liken this to going to Colombia. Chicks there will run game on you all day long, and you have to weather some stormy seas to get good repeat sex with the real hotties there. That of course takes time. I for one don't like to spend lots of time chasing chicks. I'd prefer to go someplace where the options are mine to explore, and bitches don't play games like that. Sure in the PI 95% of the girls are just going to ghost you at the last minute, but that 5% is still a pretty plentiful font of pussy.

Also fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB. They've become increasingly bad over the last several years. I had one asshole host try to charge me like $1 kUSD for smoking in a unit that I didn't smoke in. Yes, you read that right.

Thus the question becomes: is finding girl friendly places in Davao an issue? I was more under the impression that in the PI people expect other people to have guests of the opposite sex for their own personal business. I guess this isn't as universal in southern Mindanao? I can only imagine what it's like in GenSan then.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2947423]In all seriousness, most people don't realize how safe Mindanao is. [/QUOTE]Really really depends on what area.

Roughly 11 years ago I took a bus from General Santos (few street girls) to Illigan (many street girls). I decided to stop in Cotabato City which was mid way. 1 pm and their bus stations was scary. No buses, 3 small portable vendors, no people, nothing there. Why because nobody goes there. Never seen anything like that before in the Philippines. Had to take the only trike left who had his buddy with him. They tried to take a short cut to avoid traffic. I told him to take the straight path. Dropped me off at McDonalds with the police station a block away. He tried to say it was extra because blah blah blah. I gave him a small tip told him the police station is right there and I will be inside eating. The town shuts down at 8 pm. My hotel shut their main metal garage door in front and there is a security guard outside. You are not expected to go out at night.

Found a street girl. Did her at some ST hotel. It was ok. Wanted to try another and in the ST room she was aggressive and in a rush and felt it was time to go. No clothes taken off yet. She grabbed my junk and my back pocket at the same time like a pro and got the 150 pisos in my back pocket. Ran out the door.

My spider senses were tingling in that town as soon as I got off the bus there. First time that ever happened. I knew something bad was going to happen. I left the next morning at 9 am. Two years later that city had a mini civil war in town or something.

This is from 2 years ago. Nothing has changed in that city that I visited years ago.

[URL]https://www.philstar.com/nation/2022/10/08/2215221/tension-troubled-cotabato-town-worsening[/URL]

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2947423]In all seriousness, most people don't realize how safe Mindanao is. All they remember is hearing about Muslim rebels and natives that would kill you on sight. This may have been partly true 30 years ago, but it is super safe now, for the most part. There are still isolated areas with NPA, just like everywhere else in the Philippines, but that is pretty much it. I was in Gensan and then up in the mountains way off the beaten path (if you can call what we took to get there a road even), and it was probably the safest place I have ever been in my entire life. Just keep uour nose in your own business, and you will be fine.[/QUOTE]One of my exes was from Marawi City, and she said I should stay away from everything west of there, don't trust the stories about how safe it is for foreigners. Anyway there is enough to explore in the rest of the Philippines, but somehow I feel the itch to go there and go island hopping all the way to Malaysia.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2947433]So it may not be readily apparent just how valuable this information is, but this is really some gold here. If you're just now getting offers from chicks back in CdO, then the environment there is such that it takes a significant amount of time to work up the market to bed worthwhile girls. If you're only going to stay there for a couple of weeks, it's not good. If you're planning on staying there for months or having a home there you can stay at part of the time, that's another thing......

Also fuck Avida and fuck AirBnB. They've become increasingly bad over the last several years. I had one asshole host try to charge me like $1 kUSD for smoking in a unit that I didn't smoke in. Yes, you read that right.

Thus the question becomes: is finding girl friendly places in Davao an issue? I was more under the impression that in the PI people expect other people to have guests of the opposite sex for their own personal business. I guess this isn't as universal in southern Mindanao? I can only imagine what it's like in GenSan then.[/QUOTE]If we are talking specifically of CDO, my stay was days not weeks or months so, yes, you are correct. The only reason for a first visit to be for a week or less is to be doing something else and try your luck on the side. It's simply not worth it as a mongering trip. However, if you have considerably more time or are making return trip (s) then that changes totally. I'm trying to work out how to make my Mindanao exit via a few days return to the north

Fuck Avida and fuck Airbnb has nothing to do with being girl friendly. The same rules would apply to your 87 yo grandfather. I just happened to want to bring in girls not grandparents.

I did see girls going in and a online girl said that she just walks in without lodging IDs etc to a friend's condo so the rules are clearly totally different for owner occupiers and private leases. I don't know the details as I wasn't staying long enough to find out. 18 hours and I was out of there.

I've never had a hotel in Davao reject my guest. I think you would have to look hard to find one.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947468]If we are talking specifically of CDO, my stay was days not weeks or months so, yes, you are correct. The only reason for a first visit to be for a week or less is to be doing something else and try your luck on the side. It's simply not worth it as a mongering trip. However, if you have considerably more time or are making return trip (s) then that changes totally. I'm trying to work out how to make my Mindanao exit via a few days return to the north

Fuck Avida and fuck Airbnb has nothing to do with being girl friendly. The same rules would apply to your 87 yo grandfather. I just happened to want to bring in girls not grandparents.

I did see girls going in and a online girl said that she just walks in without lodging IDs etc to a friend's condo so the rules are clearly totally different for owner occupiers and private leases. I don't know the details as I wasn't staying long enough to find out. 18 hours and I was out of there.

I've never had a hotel in Davao reject my guest. I think you would have to look hard to find one.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]This has happened to me even in Manila Airbnb's. A quick call to the owner and the uptight security guard suddenly lost face and had to accept every single one of my non-registered guests. These days I always make sure to let the owner know before booking that I will sometimes have friends visiting or staying over, no more than 2 at a time. No owner has said no so far, but I've seen some airbnb hosts say in their listings they won't accept unmarried couples to book LOL.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2947477]This has happened to me even in Manila Airbnb's. A quick call to the owner and the uptight security guard suddenly lost face and had to accept every single one of my non-registered guests. These days I always make sure to let the owner know before booking that I will sometimes have friends visiting or staying over, no more than 2 at a time. No owner has said no so far, but I've seen some airbnb hosts say in their listings they won't accept unmarried couples to book LOL.[/QUOTE]During the dying part of Covid, when the country should have called it quits on the covid rules (probably 2022), I ran into similar issues with pinoy owners. Probably due to superstition and general fear of covid, unit owners and hosts in the airbnb umbrella started making odd (and technically wrong) decisions regarding who could be in their unit. In a year's time in the 2022-23 timeframe, I ran into half a dozen owners who surprised me (after moving in) with their own even stricter rules on guests. All of which violates airbnb's owners terms. I would rent the place for 2 people, and register only myself. The first owner was in Knightsbridge, and after showing me the router password and how to operate the TV, said to me upon departure: "Oh. And of course no guests. You registered just yourself". Whoa, toots! I just register guests with the guard. I won't have more than 1 guest at at time. "No. Not so. I am the owner. No guests". Does it say that in your airbnb description? "No. And I don't care. You can leave if you don't want to stay here. No refund"! OK. I sent a quick msg to airbnb after she left, and later the same evening came angry txts from the lady. She then knocked on the door. "OK. Have your guests! And I will change my description". She came all the way over from wherever she lived to say that. I went downstairs to ask the guards the procedure. "Like before Westy. Have the girl give her ID and sign in. That's it". The owner had made up her own rule even stricter than KB.

Another owner in a nearby condo pulled the same prank. Good sir, is that the admin policy of this residence? "Of course it is. This is covid". Can we walk downstairs and check with admin? "No. I don't care what admin says". He departed, and I checked with admin. "No, you can bring in guests. Sign in with the guard. We stopped doing that". I brought my guests in, and notified airbnb anyway.

OTOH, when the hotel or residence admin had rules against guest visits, nobody budged on that. One owner buffaloed me rather well. I rented airbnb. When I showed up he had me meet him at a store nearby. He drove me to the residence, and past the guard shack and into the parking structure. As we got near the shack he had me lay down in the rear seat. "Don't let the guard see you". Why not? "No new rentals. You aren't registered here". What! "It will be ok". WTF? "Stay inside the unit. Try not to go outside much. Use Food Panda. NO GUESTS". F*ck! None of that is in your airbnb description, nor in our multiple airbnb messages. "Its covid. You are lucky to be here". He is not pinoy. I msg'd airbnb asking a 50% refund, as my guests could not come in, and other complaints, and finally I received a 40% refund.

Since mid-2023, no problems of any kind. Go's is the first I've heard of.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2947477]This has happened to me even in Manila Airbnb's. A quick call to the owner and the uptight security guard suddenly lost face and had to accept every single one of my non-registered guests. ....[/QUOTE]Just for clarity my "rules" were from the owners' agent. They managed about 100 units with the same conditions.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947350]To DC,

Buddy, not my usual target profile but I'm taking one for the team just for you.

Pray for me.[/QUOTE]Attaboy, G!

Perhaps the wrong forum, but since we are discussing airbnb here, an oddity. Since I got my SRRV, I have been rejected by several different condo owners / hosts, for showing my SRRV ID in the airbnb messages. Always when I've rented airbnb, after paying for the unit, the owner will ask for some form of ID. Previous to getting my Phil's drivers license, I sent my PP page, and that was enough. Then I sent my drivers license pic (front and back), and a pic of me holding the driver's license one day (during covid). The owner asked me to send my PP. Instead, I sent my SRRV ID. The owner then requested both my PP picture page and the page of the last entry stamp. I asked why he needed so many ID's. Without explaining, he asked to see my most recent visa extension. I explained that I hadn't extended in many months as I was now SRRV, and extensions were no longer required. "Never seen this srrv thing before. I think its not real. Send your most recent visa extension". I sent it (more than 6 months expired). He informed me that he would not rent to me, that he would send this information to the BI, and that I would be deported. "I don't rent to overstayer". I asked him to both contact the BI, and to google the SRRV to see that its real. He refused. To add injury to insult, you may have to file a complaint with airbnb to get your rental money back (took about 4 weeks).

The morning was a taken up with dealing with the agent and checking out of Avida. I then walked the 100 yards to the new hotel. Very Red Dorz-esque, I had a PhilJoy moment and worried that such a basic room would deter girls. Of course, this was incorrect as the room, although basic, is 50 x better than what they have at home.

Mid-morning I met an online girl who had agreed to meet for a coffee before sealing the deal. Unfortunately, she was a major drop from her filtered pics but still doable. A Jollie meal and she was in the taxi back to the room but she made murmurs about not wanting to go with a married man. I wasn't terribly worried due to her looks and only 179 peso invested. I jumped out at the hotel and she went on her separate way. Half an hour later I received frantic messages that, surprise surprise, she had dropped her pocket book, it had 2 k in it, desperately needed for her rent no less. I just ignored her.

At 4 pm I met the 20 yo hottie in my other post.

At 9 pm met another that was going to come up to the Avida. In person she definitely was not fuckable. A light snack to be polite and she mentioned that her phone has broken. You can imagine my surprise. It's getting late and after the hottie debacle, I just couldn't be bothered. 'how about a BJ for 1000? Oh the shock: How could I think of her that way; She would never do such a thing; Can I make it 2 k? No I can't. She is in a taxi back home from the cafe. I've dodged a bullet enabling the next meet up.

1 am 31 yo mentioned in my other post.

Quite an eventful day.

G.

Battle of the generations.

This is an abridged version of yesterday. A full version will come next in another post.

WARNING: NOT FOR THE WEAK STOMACHED.

At 4 pm I organised a cutie to come over from Pina Love. In person she was actually far cuter than her pics: 21 yo; as tall as me in her heels; full and firm CC cups; a cute smile and; full of apologies that her drum tight body had blown out to 47 kgs /105 lbs. There wasn't an ounce of fat in that 105 due to being on the swim team and a regular at the gym.

The deal was no rush and plenty of fun until she needed to go home at 9 pm. Fees weren't mentioned but it was a given that she wouldn't go home empty handed.

Polite and cheerful conversation preceded getting naked and the fun starting. I cannot overstate how gorgeous her body was in the flesh. Fun sized tits that were firm and playsized. Chocolate brown skin that was tight and undamaged by kids. And, of course a pussy that was tight and inviting.

Private G was as hard as a rock and ready to play. Her body was thoroughly enjoyed in numerous positions. However, it soon became apparent that the little man was up for the journey but couldn't reach the destination. Despite the enjoyment, despite the beauty despite the best of intentions, this journey was not going to finish. No point in dragging it on forever, we had a break. Some light fondling, a rest and let things calm down a little. Little G was soon up and ready for action again so the fun restarted. Again, I was hard as a rock, everyone had the best of intentions and was doing their best but things were starting to drag on too long. Her feelings moved from 'this could be fun' to 'this can finish when ever you want'. Even I was thinking 'I'm here for enjoyment not just chopping wood'.

I was a mixture of disappointment and frankly embarrassment. Of all the times to go south, why with this beauty?? She was polite, didn't say anything negative but it's definitely not going into her book of most memorable sessions.

We called it quits after 90 minutes, I paid her 2 k, she showered and went home.

Much later in the night, I was bored and surfing Pina Love and someone tagged me. At 31, she was outside my age range anyway and I would have never even seen her otherwise. Older, but not too hard on the eyes, we struck up a conversation and ended up with 'would you be angry if I asked you to come over now? It was nearly 1 am. 20 minutes later she was in the room. 31 years old, she had clearly looked after herself. However, did she have 21 yo looks? No. Did she have drum tight abs? No, a 3 year old daughter ended that. Did she have a hurdler's ass? No. But she did have a devil streak in her eyes. When I said that we can just rest, have some fun tonight and I'll cum in the morning, she just smirked at me. She literally laughed. As if to say there won't be any of that sillyness here tonight. If I fuck you, you are going to cum.

Let me say, she fucked me in every position imaginable, in every square inch of the room, bathroom and toilet alternating between slow and steady and furious passion. When the time came, I blew so hard I though my head was imploding.

Half way through the night I wake up hard and we go at it again. Clearly the ex babydaddy was a bit freaky as she saw the bottle of lube on the bedside cabinet and looked at me inquisitively, silently asking 'should we? I'm thinking either she's dry or it's time for some anal and nod. Well, I was wrong. Within seconds she has a big glob in her hand and is then pegging me with the bottle while I'm fucking her. Now I'm not gay but having random items stuffed up your ass rapidly focusses the attention. She's writhing wildly, I'm fucking her as hard as I can go while getting pegged with every stroke. Another mind altering climax and I just collapse a shivering wreck. Another shower and comatose sleep.

Late morning we are both drifting in and out of sleep. I notice she has my dick in her hand and is slowly rubbing her Bush. I'm soon rock hard again and, you guessed it, we are at it. Much more sedate this time, she ends up lying beneath me legs closed, totally prone. This tightened everything up and definitely enhanced the sense of feeling. A true champ, she managed to get blood from a stone a third time.

I get up for a shower and there is bedding, clothes and a collapsed wardrobe everywhere. Christ what a mess. The sheets are utterly destroyed. I have a shower to wake up and when I return from the bathroom, it hits me. The pungent smell of raw sex everywhere. It's a stew of every bodily fluid imaginable radiating throughout the room. Sweat, cum, pussy juices, probably drops of blood and shit as well.

She has a quick shower, dresses as a grade school librarian, politely accepts 2 k and leaves as if nothing unusual happened.

I guess mama really showed the cool kids how it's done.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947705]
At 31, she was outside my age range anyway and I would have never even seen her otherwise. Older, but not too hard on the eyes, we struck up a conversation and ended up with 'would you be angry if I asked you to come over now? It was nearly 1 am. 20 minutes later she was in the room. When I said that we can just rest, have some fun tonight and I'll cum in the morning, she just smirked at me. She literally laughed. As if to say there won't be any of that sillyness here tonight. If I fuck you, you are going to cu

I guess mama really showed the cool kids how it's done.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Awesome report G.

I have a pretty 44 year old contact in Sabang close to my age group with an amazing little body and tits, a stunning pussy and she's actually become a good friend. Not to mention, she's probably one of the best bedroom gymnasts I've ever been with in the Phils.

I tip her 1500 - 2000 a day, or if I'm in Sabang for a while, 500 for each time I cum, and boy, does she go to work with that incentive!

Absolutely agree. The cool kids don't really know how to 'put out' like their experienced mamas.

The older girls are professionals and value repeat 'customers' who will return over time. The young ones just try and grab the cash and run. And honestly, they can be lazy and provide a disappointing 'service' in the process compared to some of the older girls.

The older girls can be amazing in the sack.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947349]Just arrived in Davao and let me tell you Daddy is home!! Pussy everywhere. Jumped online and the inbox quickly filled with opportunities. Sure 95% are going to flake, have to brush their cat's teeth or be otherwise unavailable but odds are still looking good.

A couple of minor hiccups but not insurmountable:

Stepped off the bus to find my inbox pinging with 'can I come over?' offers. FROM GIRLS BACK IN CDO!! Fuck!! Looks like I did leave too soon.

An epic rant in how fucked up staying at Avida is. I thought a nice place, in a good location, impress the good girls. Played it safe booking double occupancy. WRONG!! No visitors allowed. None! Not only after 10 pm. Never! Only people included on the Guest Register are allowed. Forget any 11th hour hookups online. Ain't going to happen. Only one Guest Register. Can't add strays. Special rules for Airbnb.

I'm walking away from my booking and checking out tomorrow morning. Fuck Airbnb and fuck Avida.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947705]Battle of the generations.

Private G was as hard as a rock and ready to play. Her body was thoroughly enjoyed in numerous positions. However, it soon became apparent that the little man was up for the journey but couldn't reach the destination. Despite the enjoyment, despite the beauty despite the best of intentions, this journey was not going to finish. No point in dragging it on forever, we had a break. Some light fondling, a rest and let things calm down a little. Little G was soon up and ready for action again so the fun restarted. Again, I was hard as a rock, everyone had the best of intentions and was doing their best but things were starting to drag on too long. Her feelings moved from 'this could be fun' to 'this can finish when ever you want'. Even I was thinking 'I'm here for enjoyment not just chopping wood'.

I was a mixture of disappointment and frankly embarrassment. Of all the times to go south, why with this beauty?? She was polite, didn't say anything negative but it's definitely not going into her book of most memorable sessions.

We called it quits after 90 minutes, I paid her 2 k, she showered and went home.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]It happens to us all from time to time. Even those most experienced among us get a little choked up when we find something we really like. I dare say you either found something you really wanted to repeat with many times over, or she said something to you that made you like her as a person. Just remember the one rule: don't catch feelings for a *****, especially if you're paying her for pussy.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2947837]So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?[/QUOTE]I would like to add the airbnbs in angeles city gave me no issues LOL.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2947837].....Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?[/QUOTE]Clearly, because I'm an idiot. Trust me it will never happen again.

G.

P.S. I too have a history of successful Airbnb bookings but it was years ago and definitely pre Covid.

G.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2947844]...Just remember the one rule: don't catch feelings for a *****, especially if you're paying her for pussy.[/QUOTE]I'm lucky that I'm pretty in tune with my feelings there.

I don't fall in love but I have definitely been kunt struck in the past. Luckily, I do know the difference.

G.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2947837]So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?[/QUOTE]I think it would depend greatly on when you were visiting. Pre-covid, there were virtually no restrictions on guests, either from the residence or the owner. During covid, obviously everything changed. From covid-start of early 2020, thru 2021, you were going to be shut down on guests almost anywhere, and that included many hotels. Some hotels even went to 1 guest per room policies, so if you showed up with your wife, she had to have a separate room. Some of this continued into 2022, and there is even some holdover today (see Avida). In Go's case, its the particular Avida residence' policy, as I have a mate in an Avida Tower in another city that has not had any problems for well over a year. Also there is no clear dividing time when the country dropped its rules. Various residences started quietly dropping their covid restrictions at different times. Does your upcoming trip residence still adhere to such silliness? Calling the Admin is the only way to find out for sure.

Some of the shit I have to put up with on tour:

Lucy Samal Dvo: Have you try threesome or gangbang?

Gofering: Why? Do you want to try?

Gofering: You are a girl, yes??

Lucy Samal Dvo: Yes I am.

Lucy Samal Dvo: I want.

Gofering: I'm. Ok with that.

Do you mean you and many guys or me and many girls?

Lucy Samal Dvo: Guys.

Gofering: Aaah. That might be difficult to organise. All my friends are married and their wives are here. They would kill them if they found out😳.

Gofering: You understand how a gangbang works, right? You would have a dick everywhere. In your pussy, mouth and ass. At the same time. You ok to try that?

Lucy Samal Dvo: Sure.

Lucy Samal Dvo: But with who?

Gofering: You want guys or toys?

Gofering: That's the difficult one. Lots will promise but very very few actually do it.

Lucy Samal Dvo: Up to you.

Gofering: What's up to me??

Lucy Samal Dvo: You & Toys.

Gofering: Ok. If it's just me, then I'm happy to fuck you everywhere with toys.

Gofering: If I can organise friends we will gangbang. But I can't promise. Actually very unlikely to actually happen.

Lucy Samal Dvo: Your friends is married hehe.

Gofering: Of course. That's the problem.

Lucy Samal Dvo: Why you tell your friends if they all married.

Gofering: I can ask if they want to. But I don't think they will do it in Davao.

Lucy Samal Dvo: Hahah I see.

Lucy Samal Dvo: I don't want to get trouble.

Lucy Samal Dvo: Ask your some friends then let me know.

Lucy Samal Dvo: I don't want to get trouble.

Lucy Samal Dvo: do you have a friend naughty like you?

Gofering: Ok. I'll ask guys whose wife is not in davao.

Gofering: Guys are not the problem. All will fuck you, no worries.

Problem is if the wife is from here she will find out.

Lucy Samal Dvo: Ah better you fuck me haha.

Gofering: Need to find friend whose wife is not davaoena.

Gofering: I'll ask but you are probably right.

Gofering: If you want to be fucked all holes, I can bring toys.

Lucy Samal Dvo: Then toys hehe.

Gofering: Ok. I'm fine with that.

Guys, don't worry about me. It's ok. I'll battle through.

Enjoy. G

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2947345]I was there 3 times last year, but I was accompanied. I didn't see no pros, but some members reported some sightings next to station 2, the truth is I wasn't really looking for action, just observing. At one time I saw 3 of them sitting at a bar, I did recognize the specific eye contact protocol, but I wasn't sure if they were ladyboys or girls.

The civilians usually come in packs, never alone, but is possible to detach one from the group after some convincing work. I'm saying this because the first time there last year (actually was in December 22) I took with me my two regular gfs that I had back then, and sometimes they were hunting fresh new meat for us and we had 4 somes, (the gfs really like it, I guess they felt empowered, negotiating in my behalf) - while we were swimming, they started talking to this beautiful girl roaming around in a cristal kaiak, and they convinced her to come with us, and she did, but nothing really happened because while we were having a drink at the bar before the deed at the villa camilla where we were staying the pack came by and took the girl with them. So there you have it, with a little convincing you may get lucky with a civilian even if she's not alone, just take her away from her friends..[/QUOTE]It looks like PH girls not only indulge in BB but are quite open and ready to3- or 4-somes than other Asian nationalities.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2947998]It looks like PH girls not only indulge in BB but are quite open and ready to3- or 4-somes than other Asian nationalities.[/QUOTE]Hi Bionic, I'm not too sure about that from personal experience.

It's the old three's a crowd thing when you can have the alternative of one-on-one action with a great girl.

Although the thought of bedding multiple girls at once is pretty hot, I've just found they spread the workload and the effort diminishes. Basically they're working for each other and I've found they collude to get the most cash out of you as a team and try to sell the whole threesome thing as a five star event.

And as soon as one pulls out their cell phone to take a message, the other one / s will too. And then you know they're not devoted to the paying customer _ You.

The girls are experts in sales and good luck to them. But if you're paying for services in the Phils and it turns out to be shit, there's no option to leave a one star Google review.

Keep in mind, that's just been my experience on quite a few occasions, but it depends on the the situation.

Personally, I wouldn't barfine multiple girls in case it turns to shit. But if you know a girl outside of the bar scene and she offers to invite a friend for some extra cash, take the chance and see where it takes you.

Those occasions have been very rewarding and at a good rate of 1500 per girl.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2947998]It looks like PH girls not only indulge in BB but are quite open and ready to3- or 4-somes than other Asian nationalities.[/QUOTE]Moresomes would easily be the most over promised and under delivered activity in the Philippines. It doesn't matter if that is in bars, on line or privately.

Guys need to be 100% upfront with their precise definition of a 3 some and be prepared to bail at the slightest chance of false promises.

To improve the odds: guy picks a girl known to do 3 somes; full and frank discussion on who will be fucking who and how; she recommends a partner which he accepts or declines.

Even then the odds are not good.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948031]Moresomes would easily be the most over promised and under delivered activity in the Philippines. It doesn't matter if that is in bars, on line or privately.

Guys need to be 100% upfront with their precise definition of a 3 some and be prepared to bail at the slightest chance of false promises.

To improve the odds: guy picks a girl known to do 3 somes; full and frank discussion on who will be fucking who and how; she recommends a partner which he accepts or declines.

Even then the odds are not good.[/QUOTE]Concur. The ideal 3-some situation for a guy is that he can go back and forth, sexing each girl at will, all in one session (ala porn). However in Phils, the girls will not be into any of that. They will not allow you to put your uncovered schwanztooga back / forth into their poonana and the other girl's poonana. And no Poon-2-Mouth swapping either. You will end up effing girl #1 to completion, while girl #2 hides in the bathroom (too shy to watch). After you shower and rest, you get to bang #2, while #1 hides in the bathroom. If they don't hide in the CR, the unencumbered girl will sit in a chair facing away from the action, buried in FB. Its quite different than what most guys envision it in their head.

Of all the 3 somes I've done in PH, only a handful have been the proper PSE ones. Most 3 somes as others have said were what I like to coin the Angeles 3 some (one girl hides in the bathroom or sits on the sofa while the other one gets porked). Once I figured out my system though, it hasn't failed me so far.

It's fairly easy to suss out girls promising 3 somes in order to get them and their friend barfined. All you have to do is ask them to kiss each other in exchange for LD, that first step alone will eliminate 80% of the bullshitters. The ones brave enough to follow through are then subjected to test level 2, fondle each other (including hands in pants) while kissing, this time in exchange for 2 LD each. At this point the remaining 20% bow out. This method has not failed me since 2018 in the bars.

For girls outside the bar, only the ones I've met with multiple times and have good rapport with can even begin to maybe generate my interest in the possibility of a 3 some these days, with an explicitly stated promise from me I'll stop seeing her if she ends up roping me into an angeles 3 some. Hasn't failed me so far.

Best chance is to find 2 bi-sexual chicks that are dating each other but willing to let you join them. You guys keep trying to add the girl. You need to try adding yourself to what already exists between them.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2948054]Concur. The ideal 3-some situation for a guy is that he can go back and forth, sexing each girl at will, all in one session (ala porn). However in Phils, the girls will not be into any of that. They will not allow you to put your uncovered schwanztooga back / forth into their poonana and the other girl's poonana. And no Poon-2-Mouth swapping either. You will end up effing girl #1 to completion, while girl #2 hides in the bathroom (too shy to watch). After you shower and rest, you get to bang #2, while #1 hides in the bathroom. If they don't hide in the CR, the unencumbered girl will sit in a chair facing away from the action, buried in FB. Its quite different than what most guys envision it in their head.[/QUOTE]Yes, long time ago it happened to me too, and not only in the Philippines, but I learned my lesson, and worked out the kinks.

I'm going to share with all, this old's pervert method. First of all, there are no cell phones allowed, and there is a clear explanation of what's going to happen once you're in the room.

The first girl you pick and agrees to the terms will have to pick the second one, one that you both like, and talk to her about the deed, sometimes will be one from the same bar, sometimes from another bar where she's not known, depending on her approach. Maybe you'll have to spend on few lady drinks for few different girls if the interview with the second one doesn't go well.

Here is a guide step by step to my 99% success rate method:

Once started you have to make it fun, and take it easy, no rushing into it, also some alcohol helps, but not too much otherwise they will fall asleep, also the upfront promise of a nice tip afterwards if all goes well, is highly indicated.

1. Start with some kissing, one, and the other one, then a short kiss between the two of them, then all 3 tongues out touching, that will induce giggles and laughter, maybe some nipple kisses too.

2. Have them do a shared blowjob, and some short each other kisses, then together side by side blowjob.

3. Have both on their backs, so they can't move away too much, then alternate licking their pussies and light hand play to the one that's in waiting, start also kissing them from time to time, suck the tits, then you go from one's pussy to the other one's mouth few times, and after that you announce them what they didn't realized yet, that they just kissed each other pussies indirectly. While you do all this complicated maneuvers, you have to add one more complication, for their confusion, take their hands and have them play with each other pussies and tits.

4. Have them suck each other tits, sometimes together with you, continue with the licking sucking the tits and kissing allover the place, then bring one's face on the other one's belly, and then go directly from the other pussy to her mouth few times, try and see if she will lick the pussy together with you, or at least give it a short kiss, after some in-between tits sucking and kissing, do the same maneuver with the other one, don't go directly for it, take it easy. I would say if you go slow 50% of the time they will lick the pussy.

5. Both still on their backs (fantasy positions will come later). Start fucking one, while keeping the other one busy with hand pussy play, then take your dick out out and play on the clit, put it back in, kiss them both, suck the tits, create confusion. Start licking the other one's pussy, then put your dick in, at this moment you just did the unacknowledged half of the pussy to pussy dick insertion. Do the same with the first one, then do it few more times, more often and more obviously, until you get them to the famous pussy swapping positions with the pussies on top of each other or side by side.

6. If step 4 was a success and they are pussy lickers, stop reading, you know what to do further, if not lay on your back, have one riding your dick, and the other one sitting on your face, then take the dick out an have her perform a blowjob, get the other one sitting on your face to join her, then exchange the fucking one with the face sitting one, and do the same thing. With the one sitting on your face facing away from the action, take your dick out, and have the one sitting on your face do a blowjob, repeat with the other one. After this blurry pussy to mouth maneuver fuck only one, and have the other one go for the blowjob directly, and vice versa.

If you completed all the 6 steps successfully, unleash your fantasy, and if the girls had an outstanding performance, tip them well, and keep in touch, next time if you don't enjoy the extended forplay you can skip it now, also you may branch out together with one or both of them. I ended up at some point with 4 of them that already have been together in diverse combinations, visiting me together, or bringing newbies. 3 or 4 is interesting and fun, but not very often, and it becomes also expensive, 2 is just right. I don't like, and I don't do anal, in this situation that will only complicate things.

From my "take it slow, don't rush it" experience I can say that "unbroken" filipinas will do more often pussy to mouth then direct pussy licking, the ones that lick pussy seem to really enjoy it, like they wanted to do it, and were just waiting for the occasion to arise. Works better with young inexperienced new comers.

Keep a bottle of tequila, calamansis and salt, in your room, just in case they need to take the edge off, and maybe a bottle of rose (not the wine, is some sweet tequila concoction, they all seem to like).

I hope this helps.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2948080]Of all the 3 somes I've done in PH, only a handful have been the proper PSE ones. Most 3 somes as others have said were what I like to coin the Angeles 3 some (one girl hides in the bathroom or sits on the sofa while the other one gets porked). Once I figured out my system though, it hasn't failed me so far.

It's fairly easy to suss out girls promising 3 somes in order to get them and their friend barfined. All you have to do is ask them to kiss each other in exchange for LD, that first step alone will eliminate 80% of the bullshitters. The ones brave enough to follow through are then subjected to test level 2, fondle each other (including hands in pants) while kissing, this time in exchange for 2 LD each. At this point the remaining 20% bow out. This method has not failed me since 2018 in the bars.

For girls outside the bar, only the ones I've met with multiple times and have good rapport with can even begin to maybe generate my interest in the possibility of a 3 some these days, with an explicitly stated promise from me I'll stop seeing her if she ends up roping me into an angeles 3 some. Hasn't failed me so far.[/QUOTE]I forgot to add something similar to my previous set of instructions. It always works for the initial triage.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2948022]Hi Bionic, I'm not too sure about that from personal experience.

It's the old three's a crowd thing when you can have the alternative of one-on-one action with a great girl.


Keep in mind, that's just been my experience on quite a few occasions, but it depends on the the situation.

Personally, I wouldn't barfine multiple girls in case it turns to shit. But if you know a girl outside of the bar scene and she offers to invite a friend for some extra cash, take the chance and see where it takes you.

Those occasions have been very rewarding and at a good rate of 1500 per girl.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Understand and agreeing, you pay for two and get serviced 50% by each. Not a fan of threesomes here too. My observation is that, compared to LOS in PH they are more keen for 3+ even if for monetary reasons.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2947837]So the first time I was in Manila I must've really lucked out I chose an airbnb without a strict guest policy at all. I would've brought in anyone I wanted. I learned that's def not always the case when I got hit with so many rules and restrictions for my second visit. Practically all the places I looked up / checked in had a no guest policy. Never using airbnb again. Why did you even consider airbnb / avida?[/QUOTE]Most likely the rule is the same everywhere but one certainly notices (and is affected) when renting in a mongering location where you plan to take a girl (or more) back everyday (or night). You go yo a tourist only city (Paris, LOS Angeles, Berlin, wherever) and no plan of barfine etc, so you don't't check and are subject to those restrictions.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2948054]Concur. The ideal 3-some situation for a guy is that he can go back and forth, sexing each girl at will, all in one session (ala porn). However in Phils, the girls will not be into any of that. They will not allow you to put your uncovered schwanztooga back / forth into their poonana and the other girl's poonana. [/QUOTE]'Dem Surigao girls sure forgot to read that part of the Manual. 😜.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948118]'Dem Surigao girls sure forgot to read that part of the Manual. 😜.[/QUOTE]The beauty of Surigaoanas: Never were known for their reading skils! 😜.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2948107]Most likely the rule is the same everywhere but one certainly notices (and is affected) when renting in a mongering location where you plan to take a girl (or more) back everyday (or night). You go yo a tourist only city (Paris, LOS Angeles, Berlin, wherever) and no plan of barfine etc, so you don't't check and are subject to those restrictions.[/QUOTE]Must say that even given my negative posts here regarding residence or owner's bad-boy guest policies, especially during covid, that I am still an airbnb fan. I have had mostly good success since the lifting of restrictions.

You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist. Find a bi-sexual girl who has a girlfriend meaning she is mostly lesbian. Then ask if her girlfriend is bi-sexual and open to be with guys. The answer is "yes"? Now ask for a picture of her GF. Is her GF acceptable looking? Let her negotiate. Her negotiations to get the 3-some will be far better than yours. Why try to create a lesbian connection when you can find one that already exists. Maybe take the GF intended target for a breakfast with the first girl to get her comfortable with you before negotiations or to verify chemistry beforehand to be sure she will not be a dud.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2948191]You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist. Find a bi-sexual girl who has a girlfriend meaning she is mostly lesbian. Then ask if her girlfriend is bi-sexual and open to be with guys. The answer is "yes"? Now ask for a picture of her GF. Is her GF acceptable looking? Let her negotiate. Her negotiations to get the 3-some will be far better than yours. Why try to create a lesbian connection when you can find one that already exists. Maybe take the GF intended target for a breakfast with the first girl to get her comfortable with you before negotiations or to verify chemistry beforehand to be sure she will not be a dud.[/QUOTE]It's for the thrill of hunting!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2948191]You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist. Find a bi-sexual girl who has a girlfriend meaning she is mostly lesbian. Then ask if her girlfriend is bi-sexual and open to be with guys. The answer is "yes"? Now ask for a picture of her GF. Is her GF acceptable looking? Let her negotiate. Her negotiations to get the 3-some will be far better than yours. Why try to create a lesbian connection when you can find one that already exists. Maybe take the GF intended target for a breakfast with the first girl to get her comfortable with you before negotiations or to verify chemistry beforehand to be sure she will not be a dud.[/QUOTE]Mate, can you tell us your success rate with this approach?

It just sounds like a lot of fucking around to find a couple of existing dykes when the cash incentive of getting a couple of straight girls in the bed has worked every time for me.

Just my experience _ Phil.

Too much talk, not enough pictures. Thinkin' of ya, DC.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2948280]Mate, can you tell us your success rate with this approach?

It just sounds like a lot of fucking around to find a couple of existing dykes when the cash incentive of getting a couple of straight girls in the bed has worked every time for me.

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]You might get straight girls in bed for a 3-some but not the passionate girl on girl with 3-way swapping like porn movies. Maybe some kissing and sucking of boobs and such, but not hard core eating out and real deep tongue in mouth between the girls. I do not see it as being a more difficult approach.

No experience. Only did 3-some once and bored me to death watching others play. Only interested in me, me, and me. Waste of money for me. I always read about no chemistry between the girls so my thought is find that chemistry first then weasle your way into it. I am a 1 on 1 numbers guy.

Davao cintinued.

After the hottie debacle followed by mama's marathon sessions, I felt that a day or two rest to recharge the batteries was well in order. I also decided to admit defeat, recognise that I'm getting older and seek out some vitamin see.

Most of the afternoon was a search for prescription free 10 MG Cialis. Mercury #1 said very sternly that nothing can be given without a prescription. Mercury #2 said that I needed a prescription but she woukd supply 1 tab until I can get it. No 10 MG available so one 20 MG was 958 peso /$17. Walking home, I passed a hole in the wall pharmacy who said I could have as much generic Viagra as I wanted but they didn't have any Cialis, real or copy. Immediately before my hotel, there was Mercury #3 who would give me a box of tabs. Again, no 10 MG available so a box of 20 MG was 1916 peso. I thought that a box would be several cards of blister packs but, no, it was two tabs only. Dr Google identified 10 MG per day as the typical dose. With no 10's available I just split a 20 in half. Online searches were conflicting about this being ok or not. What are others' practical experience with halving Cialis tabs. Does this change the effectiveness? I've settled on 20 MG every second day now.

The following day was purely practical things.

The next proved PhilJoys point:

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2947781]

The older girls are professionals and value repeat 'customers' who will return over time. The young ones just try and grab the cash and run. And honestly, they can be lazy and provide a disappointing 'service' in the process compared to some of the older girls.

The older girls can be amazing in the sack.

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I thought I would try a second shot at the 20 yo cutie but amazingly her mens had arrived three weeks early. I know, a shocker. I guess she didn't like the thought of having to work for the money.

I called Mama and she said had also started to spot lightly. That's wasnt going to stop her. 'No problems you can fuck me in the shower'. Very resourceful. Decided to give that a pass and call back in a few days.

A quick online session soon brought up a candidate. The girls never fail to surprise. Somehow she forgot that she was 4 months pregnant. It didn't stop her putting in a stellar performance and she spent the night for the usual 2000.

Enjoy G.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2948330]You might get straight girls in bed for a 3-some but not the passionate girl on girl with 3-way swapping like porn movies. Maybe some kissing and sucking of boobs and such, but not hard core eating out and real deep tongue in mouth between the girls. I do not see it as being a more difficult approach.

No experience. Only did 3-some once and bored me to death watching others play. Only interested in me, me, and me. Waste of money for me. I always read about no chemistry between the girls so my thought is find that chemistry first then weasle your way into it. I am a 1 on 1 numbers guy.[/QUOTE]You will be surprised by how many first timers will have a passionate 3 some, if treated the right way.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948371]Davao cintinued.

After the hottie debacle followed by mama's marathon sessions, I felt that a day or two rest to recharge the batteries was well in order. I also decided to admit defeat, recognise that I'm getting older and seek out some vitamin see.

Most of the afternoon was a search for prescription free 10 MG Cialis. Mercury #1 said very sternly that nothing can be given without a prescription. Mercury #2 said that I needed a prescription but she woukd supply 1 tab until I can get it. No 10 MG available so one 20 MG was 958 peso /$17. Walking home, I passed a hole in the wall pharmacy who said I could have as much generic Viagra as I wanted but they didn't have any Cialis, real or copy. Immediately before my hotel, there was Mercury #3 who would give me a box of tabs. Again, no 10 MG available so a box of 20 MG was 1916 peso. I thought that a box would be several cards of blister packs but, no, it was two tabs only. Dr Google identified 10 MG per day as the typical dose. With no 10's available I just split a 20 in half. Online searches were conflicting about this being ok or not. What are others' practical experience with halving Cialis tabs. Does this change the effectiveness? I've settled on 20 MG every second day now.[/QUOTE]I don't use it, but I bought some for a friend back home, and I remember that the price was around 2 $ for 1 pill, 17 $ seems way overpriced. This was last year in AC, but I don't think the price changed that much in one year. I bought it in the pharmacy at the entrance to Rock 69 bar, I don't remember the exact details, but it was something similar to your situation, and I asked if was ok to cut it in half, and the answer was yes, you can do it, there is no special coating on it.

Like this?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2948635]You will be surprised by how many first timers will have a passionate 3 some, if treated the right way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2948191]You guys are always trying to add another girl. Try adding another guy (you) to the two girls that already exist..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2948280]Mate, can you tell us your success rate with this approach?

It just sounds like a lot of fucking around to find a couple of existing dykes when the cash incentive of getting a couple of straight girls in the bed has worked every time for me.

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]This is where everyone's definition of a threesome is different.

For guys who want to watch and interact with two girl fucking then LoveIt's method is the best. Unfortunately, these girls are exceedingly rare and false promises are rife.

For greedy guys, like myself, who want two girls to fuck him / me then Phil's method works and is far more available. Many girls are slightly gay for pay.

If we are talking success rates, I've had exactly one true gay girl pair who were straight for pay. One wasn't a Tom but she was definitely the dominant of the two. The other was alwaya the previous girl friend. Don't ask me why but the current girl friend was always off limits to guys and she would only work with the previous girlfriend. Some were pretty average but some were very cute.

I've had many sessions of girls teaming up to fuck me together, maybe with some light interaction between them, but never full PSE. I'd agree that the more comfortable and familiar they were with each other, the better they fucked me. This also gave less interruptions and requirements: fuck one then the other; no moving between girls; swapping condoms; the list goes on.

Add to this many times more false promises or girls just faking eating each other or etc.

Enjoy. G.

Davao Continues II.

After me saying that there are no spinners in Davao, about 1 pm I took a slim cutie to Jollie Bees for an Interview. 21 yo, about 5'6" and 100 lb with pert little AB cups. Plenty for a mouthful. She passed the interview and we headed back. To be honest I was a little perplexed as to why she was sucking old dick at all. She was well dressed, could hold a conversation and was generally nice to be with. She even pulled 300 p out of her purse when I didn't have any small notes to pay the taxi.

She was good fun back in the room. No need for a blow by blow description as they all merge together after a while. But I was definitely impressed by her body: long and slim and toned. What more could a guy ask for? Multiple sessions without complaints or dramas. I made excuses for her to leave at 11 am so 2000 seemed like a pretty good deal to me for nearly 24 hours.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=AgentOrange;2948675]Like this?[/QUOTE]Yes, like that, and more. In your first pick you can tell that the girl being sucked really enjoys it.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2948121]The beauty of Surigaoanas: Never were known for their reading skils! 😜.[/QUOTE]Here are two "Luzoanas", where the user manual is a bit different, and they read it well. There is a third one, a dark Surigaoana not in the POV that was sucking me from time to time and otherwise licking the blonde's clit while I was doing the blonde doggy style.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948689]This is where everyone's definition of a threesome is different.

For guys who want to watch and interact with two girl fucking then LoveIt's method is the best. Unfortunately, these girls are exceedingly rare and false promises are rife.

For greedy guys, like myself, who want two girls to fuck him / me then Phil's method works and is far more available. Many girls are slightly gay for pay.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree G.

Generally the sales pitch is "You want two girls?

My experiences haven't been via your traditional girly bars, but other bars where I've gained a rapport with the staff.

In Sabang I've had between two to five in my room at a time through the day just enjoying the aircon and a TV.

Things often got interesting after a few Anotov Vodka's.

The trip before last was a RORO experience with two of them.

I just asked the question, 'Can you show me how to lick a pussy?" and I was provided with the perfect demo.

I had / have a really good rapport with both of them, so we all felt comfortable and had a pretty good time.

Their cash incentive was about 1500 p each and some money for dinner before they went to work in the bar at 6 pm.

Got to love The Phils _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2948802]

My experiences haven't been via your traditional girly bars, but other bars where I've gained a rapport with the staff.

In Sabang I've had between two to five in my room at a time through the day just enjoying the aircon and a TV.

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Their cash incentive was about 1500 p each and some money for dinner before they went to work in the bar at 6 pm.

Got to love The Phils _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I don't understand. You mean that you can actually talk to girls beyond the stripper clubs in AC?? Is that even allowed? A real conversation?? With normal girls who aren't paid to suck dick night after night? Do they really exist??

Measure twice cut once. For purely scientific research I identified that Sabang beds cater for four with some space to move. Five works but someone is sleeping east west at the foot of the bed. Best to not get too greedy.

It's amazing how much direct service fees can be reduced by treating people like human beings. I've yet to calculate the return on a 127 peso yumi burger meal but it's got to be well above investment grade.

Enjoy. G.

Davao Continues III.

After Ms. Long and Lean, I assessed my options for my last night in town. Offers were starting to pour in to meet up for introductions. My spidey sense was saying that a number of them would be converts. However, I don't have a good history of thinking that the grass is always greener so I called up Ms Hot Mommy and asked the 31 yo to drop around again. After work at 7 pm was agreed.

Between the two girls, I wwmt to the massage mentioned elsewhere here.

She arrived, chatted for a while when we turned in early to allow for an early start tomorrow. Numerous sessions followed throughout the night and early morning. Thankfully less manic than the last session but still great fun. Everything was catered for except A+ which was firmly off limits. In the morning I handed her another 2 k and her surprising reply was to ask why I was paying her everyday.

As an aside, I didn't progress sourcing the Cialis. It gave me bad indigestion and heart burn for little benefit. Erections were hard, but they were before too, but I didn't notice any change in ejaculation timing or frequency. All pain with no gain, I didn't see the point in continuing.

Enjoy. G.

Unfortunately, after four weeks of fun, I was due for the wheels to fall off. Arrived in Butuan and called over a new 19 yo of PL. No fees mentioned but she agreed to stay the night. Arrives and immediately the pussy hurts, it's too big yada yada yada. Cut my losses and she's out the door after about 45 minutes with 1 k. I get an abusive call from the lobby: 1 k is not enough; I need 500 for the taxi (it's 80 at best); how am I going to feed my old grandma; on and on. Tell some one who cares.

Change hotels as the Red Doorz uncharacteristically sucked. Bummed around in the morning then the flood gates opened. Previous conquest called and wants to drop around, "ST, LT doesn't matter, just fuck me", another that I missed out on last trip has time after work; another who wants to say thanks for a platonic meal; mega tits in the photo to DCups finishes class soon. What to do? I'm not really a mega tits guy but I felt like something different so went with option DD's. Well, fuck me, 3 hours of drama organising trikes, taxis etc and she arrives; and she's a yapper, talking non stop. Shut up woman!! Its time for bed and. She decides we should only be friends. I literally cancelled three others girls for this. 🤬.

Fuck!!

I guess it had to happen. I was on a good role there for a while.

A couple of hours later, DD girl finally decided to be more than friends. Not fat but certainly bigger framed, she's about 5'5" and two 80 lb spinners, the tits make it worth while. Literally the size of a human head each but, at 23 and no kids, still firm. Very num-num-numable and built for motor boating. She knew how to use her pussy too which was a bonus. I'm only a small guy so she was a bit too big to throw around the room but it was something different.

So I guess that didn't end too badly after all. She's a nutter though. Famous last words but not sure if I'll repeat. Massive tits aren't really my thing but we'll see. She does have a hot dormate / cousin so that might be an incentive. Oh and 'guys are always asking me for sexy photos. I never send them. Well there was this one guy that I really liked' then she shows me folders and folders of nudes. But just that one guy you understand. 😉.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2948285]Too much talk, not enough pictures. Thinkin' of ya, DC.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Man!

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2948640]I don't use it, but I bought some for a friend back home, and I remember that the price was around 2 $ for 1 pill, 17 $ seems way overpriced. This was last year in AC, but I don't think the price changed that much in one year. I bought it in the pharmacy at the entrance to Rock 69 bar, I don't remember the exact details, but it was something similar to your situation, and I asked if was ok to cut it in half, and the answer was yes, you can do it, there is no special coating on it.[/QUOTE]10 MG tadadafil (generic Cialis) at Costco pharmacy in US is $12 for 60. So $17 for 2 20 MG is very high. But you are in Phil not USa so YMMV.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948918]I don't understand. You mean that you can actually talk to girls beyond the stripper clubs in AC?? Is that even allowed? A real conversation?? With normal girls who aren't paid to suck dick night after night? Do they really exist??

Measure twice cut once. For purely scientific research I identified that Sabang beds cater for four with some space to move. Five works but someone is sleeping east west at the foot of the bed. Best to not get too greedy.

It's amazing how much direct service fees can be reduced by treating people like human beings. I've yet to calculate the return on a 127 peso yumi burger meal but it's got to be well above investment grade.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha, Love your work G.

Yes, sometimes buying them a decent feed can do the trick. Just as long as I get a taste of something sweet too!

As for bed numbers, the little things can adapt to any position on a decent mattress, as opposed to sleeping on the floor in the province _ Phil.

I collapsed and died for a day with the flu. Numerous girls messaged to see if we could go out / hook up but leaving the room just wasn't a priority. One of the girls that I rejected to see Ms DDs offered to run some medicine out to me during her lunch break. As I felt like absolute shit, this was gladly accepted. She arrived and I downed pills like a strung out junky. She mentioned several times that she had to be back at work by 2 pm so it was obvious that she intended a lot more than medical relief and time was of the essence. To be honest, a 3 yr old daughter had taken its toll but she made up for it with enthusiasm. Suddenly I was feeling much better. It's amazing what a good BJ will do to one's spirits. No cash exchanged but she did leave with the 1500 p of dobuts and chocolates that we Maximed in. I'd call that a fair trade. I was feeling pretty happy with the situation until she messaged later that some how she forgot that she had an urgent need for 3000 p. I made some lame excuse and said that we can work out someway in the future for her to earn it. I'll see, As I said, the body had taken some damage but she did have a lot of enthusiasm. Maybe keep her in the interchange bench. ??

This was yet another example of the total lack of girls' knowledge of sexual health. She was very sceptical that I had a vasectomy and pregnancy wasn't a risk. She was adamant that a V stopped libido and performance.

Enjoy. G.

Finished off the day with a surprise. It's a quiet day so I'm back and forth with a girl all day. We're chatting but she's an hour away and got a million reasons not to see me let alone fuck me. Then the fateful statement: she's just left school "because of financial". Gotcha. If we have some fun for the afternoon, then I'm happy to help you out. A deal is stamped at 1500 for unlimited fun until 5 pm She's on the way.

Of course, it takes her three hours to make the journey. She gets lost a couple of times but finally arrives. And wow!! She is way better in person than the pics or even the video chat. 21 yo, no kids, 5'6" maybe 100 with nice BS. Slim but some curves in all the right places. A pretty face also helps. The only thing is that between my heavy accent and her non existent english, she can't understand a word I'm saying. Oh well. We fail miserably at polite conversation then get down to business.

The tits are spilled out of the spaghetti dress and they are lovely play things. Another shy one, all the lights go off and she dives under the bed sheet. We progress on but hit a road block. The dress must stay on. WTF?? It can come down to suck her tits. It can go up to get to her panties but there is no way it's coming off. Something's not right here and alarm bells start ringing. Either she's got a dick, massive stretch marks or something else isn't kosher. The finger test proves all's good down there. Her skin's as smooth as silk and super firm so no concerns there either. Who knows??

Her legs are splayed so we go for penetration but she recoils away. Shit, I don't need this sore pussy BS again. What's wrong?? "I'm a virgin". Are you serious?? We agreed on having sex for a few hours. You knew that.

Sure enough, there are spots of blood on the sheet and I'm in two minds if she's on the rags and it's a BS cover story or if she is actually a virgin. We progress on and after a few attempts we get full penetration and the deed is done. She called out a few times "I'm done" and I think it's a bad faked climax. What her bad english really meant was "get the fuck off me". Luckily at no stage was I slamming away.

So what happened??

Do I think she was a true virgin? No, I don't. I've known a couple of 21 yo virgins so don't think it's impossible but things were a little too easy and lubricated. Also, a girl that attractive is going to have local guys hitting on her 24/7. To this you can add asking for a Red Horse when she arrived and makeup a little too on point for sometime who doesn't get out.

Do I think she was a total BS artist who wanted to get the money and run? No, she had ample opportunity to bail with the money early but stayed the full time, paid for her own transport, didn't ask for any extras and I got a shot away as promised.

One wierd one I have seen before is that girls that grow up in a heavily religious household, where everything to do with sex is bad and unspoken, can have the occasional hook up then convince themselves that it wasn't a major indiscretion and that they are still a virgin. If you ask them, they will swear black and blue that they are still virgins simply because of the peer pressure places upon not being one. This would also explain her being incredibly awkward interacting with another body: legs, arms and sheets were constantly getting tangled up; if she laid on your chest, it hurt, she didn't snuggle into, she laid on top of, a few times she leant forward with her forearm straight across my throat. She definitely wasn't terribly familiar with being in close quarters with another person.

Who knows and who cares for that matter.

Definitely one of the better bodies I've been with this trip. But some side issues to say the least.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950207] She definitely wasn't terribly familiar with being in close quarters with another person.

Who knows and who cares for that matter.

Definitely one of the better bodies I've been with this trip. But some side issues to say the least.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Great reports G and familiar territory.

By that I mean, some of the chance hook-ups I've had definitely throw some curve balls at you when you get them in the sack.

Always memorable to reflect on though. And another to add to the scoreboard.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2950248]Great reports G and familiar territory.

By that I mean, some of the chance hook-ups I've had definitely throw some curve balls at you when you get them in the sack.

Always memorable to reflect on though. And another to add to the scoreboard.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks Phil. I have to admit that I'm not totally against a girl having a little craziness. It definitely adds some spice to life.

You're right: lots of stories along the same vane.

Enjoy. G.

Butuan III.

Long term readers would have noticed that I'm not really into taking nor sharing mid session photos. However, for whatever reason, I've become fixated on getting as many of Ms DD's home made photo albums as possible. Polite messages reminding her that she said she would send them to me have gone unactioned.

Plan Bravo is to call her back for another session (not an altogether unpleasant experience) and get them in person. During the day yesterday, I invited her over. She was on the way, but had to cancel at the last minute as I still felt like shit. Let's just say that, after an hour's hair and makeup, she was less than impressed. I promised all would be good tomorrow, ie today, and sure enough, 6 pm she's actually in the taxi. She arrives and, I swear, she starts yapping again straight away. She continued talking right where she ended last time. Jeezus, I hate yappers.

The plan is all night so there is no hurry. We both have separate showers and I'm reminded that she's a big boned girl but this tits are truely massive. We start mild foreplay. As I said, there is no rush so this is interspersed with chatting, light kissing and generally mucking about. One tit is set fee and sucked. A second tit follows. Then a finger goes exploring and is inserted. During a lull, she looks over at her phone then suddenly grabs it. "Turn the lights on my mom is going to call". Lights go on and she runs to the other bed and faced directly to me so I'm out of camera view. This isn't my first rodeo so I know to just wait, be quiet and the fun will continue soon. Sure enough, mom calls and they start babbling away in Bisaya. Obviously, I understand zero of this.

A little back story would be good here. Apparently DDs was essentially abandoned to Aunty at 8 while Mom travelled the world selling pussy to feed the family. She very rarely has seen mom since then and isn't at all close to her but, at the end of the day, she pays the bills so DDs plays along as required and they pretend to be a happy family on the few occasions that mom returns. She had been busy sucking dick in Germany when the call came through.

So, the chatting continued. I don't know the details of what was said but you could tell it was getting strained. I just laid there, on the other side of the room and waited my turn. Then, DDs turned to get something out of her handbag and I just knew instinctively that I came into frame of the camera. Sure enough, the tone changed straight away. I heard "classmate" mentioned several times in succession and what sounded a lot like my room trying to pass for Lia's. The conversation became more animated by the moment. Then DDs must have paused the call, yelled at me that she needs a taxi now!! She needs to go home, now!! She reconnects the call and I hear her trying to explain the break as a data "hang" a few times. She even dives outside wearing nothing but a nighty to continue the conversation with tits falling everywhere. I push the door closed because nobody needs to see me totally naked inside. A few moments later she returns definitely shaken and full of apologies. "Sorry, but I've got to go home now. My mom knows. ".

I order her a grab taxi and six minutes later she's off.

So, another interesting night in the province. I finally feel healthy but no pussy, no sexy selfies. But I did get some smelly fingers!!

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950854]"Sorry, but I've got to go home now. My mom knows. ".

I order her a grab taxi and six minutes later she's off.

So, another interesting night in the province. I finally feel healthy but no pussy, no sexy selfies. But I did get some smelly fingers!!

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Pr*ck in one stinky hand, camera in the other!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2950987]Pr*ck in one stinky hand, camera in the other!

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee![/QUOTE]You know the crazy thing? I don't even like big tits. 🤦

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950854]Butuan III.

Long term readers would have noticed that I'm not really into taking nor sharing mid session photos. However, for whatever reason, I've become fixated on getting as many of Ms DD's home made photo albums as possible. Polite messages reminding her that she said she would send them to me have gone unactioned.

Plan Bravo is to call her back for another session (not an altogether unpleasant experience) and get them in person. During the day yesterday, I invited her over. She was on the way, but had to cancel at the last minute as I still felt like shit. Let's just say that, after an hour's hair and makeup, she was less than impressed. I promised all would be good tomorrow, ie today, and sure enough, 6 pm she's actually in the taxi. She arrives and, I swear, she starts yapping again straight away. She continued talking right where she ended last time. Jeezus, I hate yappers.

The plan is all night so there is no hurry. We both have separate showers and I'm reminded that she's a big boned girl but this tits are truely massive. We start mild foreplay. As I said, there is no rush so this is interspersed with chatting, light kissing and generally mucking about. One tit is set fee and sucked. A second tit follows. Then a finger goes exploring and is inserted. During a lull, she looks over at her phone then suddenly grabs it. "Turn the lights on my mom is going to call". Lights go on and she runs to the other bed and faced directly to me so I'm out of camera view. This isn't my first rodeo so I know to just wait, be quiet and the fun will continue soon. Sure enough, mom calls and they start babbling away in Bisaya. Obviously, I understand zero of this.

A little back story would be good here. Apparently DDs was essentially abandoned to Aunty at 8 while Mom travelled the world selling pussy to feed the family. She very rarely has seen mom since then and isn't at all close to her but, at the end of the day, she pays the bills so DDs plays along as required and they pretend to be a happy family on the few occasions that mom returns. She had been busy sucking dick in Germany when the call came through.

So, the chatting continued. I don't know the details of what was said but you could tell it was getting strained. I just laid there, on the other side of the room and waited my turn. Then, DDs turned to get something out of her handbag and I just knew instinctively that I came into frame of the camera. Sure enough, the tone changed straight away. I heard "classmate" mentioned several times in succession and what sounded a lot like my room trying to pass for Lia's. The conversation became more animated by the moment. Then DDs must have paused the call, yelled at me that she needs a taxi now!! She needs to go home, now!! She reconnects the call and I hear her trying to explain the break as a data "hang" a few times. She even dives outside wearing nothing but a nighty to continue the conversation with tits falling everywhere. I push the door closed because nobody needs to see me totally naked inside. A few moments later she returns definitely shaken and full of apologies. "Sorry, but I've got to go home now. My mom knows. ".

I order her a grab taxi and six minutes later she's off.

So, another interesting night in the province. I finally feel healthy but no pussy, no sexy selfies. But I did get some smelly fingers!!

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]You have writing skills, I enjoy reading your stuff. Sailor jack was also one of my favorites, I don't know what happened to him, I hope he's ok.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950854]Butuan III.
ngers!!

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Glad to see her mother, the globe trotting harlot, was peeved with her loose ways. Family values. Fancy marrying into al lthat messby accident or design. No offence to hte. It makes a great yarn here but in real life.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2951186]Glad to see her mother, the globe trotting harlot, was peeved with her loose ways. Family values. Fancy marrying into al lthat messby accident or design. No offence to hte. It makes a great yarn here but in real life.[/QUOTE]She, DD's, is definitely a few screws short of a hardware shop. I've seen it a few times with people who ramble on endlessly but about nothing of consequence. Sometimes I think it's to avoid talking about important or deeper topics closer to the heart. She adores her aunt but has no time at all for her mother.

Her past life and how she was abandoned must have contributed in some way. It can't have been a positive.

I'm not out to save anyone but I've often said before that we all have our fun but there is often a dark underbelly to the hobby.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2951183]You have writing skills, I enjoy reading your stuff. Sailor jack was also one of my favorites, I don't know what happened to him, I hope he's ok.[/QUOTE]Thanks. You're very kind. I try to make it more than "I spent the same amount as everyone else, in the same bars as everyone else to get a clone of the same girl as everyone else".

There is always a back story. Suzy Q Citizen doesn't just wake up one day and start selling pussy to grandpa

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2951183]Sailor jack was also one of my favorites, I don't know what happened to him, I hope he's ok.[/QUOTE]Ya he had good stories and pics.

Now, get in there and clean up your act.

DD's and I getting busted by mom coincided with the end of my hotel booking so I decided it was a good time to make myself scarce. Everything was probably fine. However, I've seen several incidents where girls need to quickly prove to the family that they were not at fault and wild accusations start being thrown whities way. Soon he's being accused of graping the pure and chaste young girl. It was best that I was out of sight, out of mind until things blew over.

Returning to Surigao was a short and uneventful bus ride. There was data available the whole way so time on the apps was productive. A cheap hotel was also booked. A busy schedule was booked to allow some to flake, no show or be not as described.

That afternoom saw the typical 2/10 drop vs pictures and video. Looks were ok. Performance was ok. Attitude was ok. However, nothing really felt worth repeating. Especially as there was a nice 18 yo scheduled to come later in the evening. I didn't worry about keeping her to the agreed timing and didn't complain when she hinted that her goldfish needed feeding earlier than planned.

In a few hours a little cutie was scheduled to arrive. Only 18 and quite pretty. She seemed very shy but mustered up some courage as she was living away from home and flat broke. Unfortunately, she kept the chatting online up but in person, she was a no show. I went to bed alone.

Another target was someone who had just broken up with a an American boyfriend in town. Spoke great english and had clearly been riding the expat circuit. Unfortunately, Uncle Sam must have been a bit of a simp as she was use to getting her own way and issuing demands which she expected to be followed. It came as a shock to her that I don't play that game and missed appointments and orders on when and where to eat didn't bother me at all. After a day she stopped playing and dropped around. A really pretty face but the body was destroyed by two kids early on. She knew how to use it but recommendations to go to the beach and have a fuck fest the next day weren't accepted. I'm not big on quickies but when she made comments about needing to get home straight after the deed, I paid 1 k base rates and she was off.

I thought it would be rude to be in Surigao and not catch up with the threesome girls. They answered the WhatsApp message in seconds. Sure. We are on our way. One arrived first and claimed she was hungry. It was lunchtime but I wasn't heading out in the heat of the day so suggested Food Panda. She phoned the other that we weren't meeting at McDo's but to come to the hotel room. She did so WITH HER KID IN TOW. Woah! I intercepted them before they get through the door. Sorry. Definitely no minors allowed into a foreigner's hotel room. The girls babble back and forth. Everyone is hungry. No one is available to babysit the kid. Girls want to come in to earn some cash. None of these are my problems so tell them to go back home and come back when they are ready. An hour later one returns alone. The other isn't coming as she has no one to watch junior. Bugger so no threesome. No biggy. Down to business with the last one standing. A great BBBJ followed by BBFSCIP. Then she too has to go early. Another 1 k and she's gone back home to do what ever.

On the last day I received some selfies from DDs so looks as if the coast is clear to return.

More to follow.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2951623]
The girls babble back and forth. Everyone is hungry. No one is available to babysit the kid. Girls want to come in to earn some cash. None of these are my problems so tell them to go back home and come back when they are ready. An hour later one returns alone. The other isn't coming as she has no one to watch junior. Bugger so no threesome. No biggy. Down to business with the last one standing. A great BBBJ followed by BBFSCIP. Then she too has to go early. Another 1 k and she's gone back home to do what ever[/QUOTE]Great reports G.

Yes, there are always hurdles to jump before you get to the finish line.

1 K sounds like a win to me.

I think back to my first visit to The Phils maybe 20 years ago and to now, with multiple visits a year.

Back then I would have been taken for 'a ride' in the name of getting laid.

Now, it's more or less playing the game and coming out on top, so to speak.

(I'm slowly educating these girls that customer service is paramount and will result in returned business).

Enjoy!

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2951211]Her past life and how she was abandoned must have contributed in some way. It can't have been a positive.
I'm not out to save anyone but I've often said before that we all have our fun but there is often a dark underbelly to the hobby.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree G.

I've become quite close to a few of my long term contacts and their backstory isn't great.

(And these aren't your typical young AC bar girls just looking for a cash and run job).

They know I'll only reward them when I see them and not expect to receive cash from me when I'm back at home.

Yes, there's a dark underbelly to 'the hobby' but some, and hopefully most of us, realize there's a personal interaction that's real with the right girl and not just a bar fling for cash.

Every second day I chat with a 44 year old contact in Sabang on WhatsApp and she happens to be super fit and is still one of the best that I return to time and time again.

We've become real friends with benefits. Yes there's a mutual feeling there, but we know where we both stand.

In these cases, the underbelly is dissolved, although Filipinas can have some very jealous ex-husbands.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2951691]Absolutely agree G.

I've become quite close to a few of my long term contacts and their backstory isn't great.

(And these aren't your typical young AC bar girls just looking for a cash and run job).

They know I'll only reward them when I see them and not expect to receive cash from me when I'm back at home.

Yes, there's a dark underbelly to 'the hobby' but some, and hopefully most of us, realize there's a personal interaction that's real with the right girl and not just a bar fling for cash.

Every second day I chat with a 44 year old contact in Sabang on WhatsApp and she happens to be super fit and is still one of the best that I return to time and time again.

We've become real friends with benefits. Yes there's a mutual feeling there, but we know where we both stand.

In these cases, the underbelly is dissolved, although Filipinas can have some very jealous ex-husbands.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]In general, the common thread I have found is that almost every girl has a low-life man as part of her story. Maybe it's the pinoy BF, husband, or even father that drinks and gambles all of their money away and sends her out to sell pussy for money. Maybe it's the ex-BF who got her pregnant and then dumped her, often because he had another family already and kept it a secret. Or maybe the ex BF or husband was controlling or abusive and she had to flee.

In my experience of mongering, I've met only one provider that apparently doesn't have some horrible backstory. She just genuinely enjoys what she does and the money it brings. And, like Phil said, it's because I've become good friends with her over several years. I've met most of the people important in her life, including her children. I haven't seen her a a client for years, and she has given me far more money as a friend than I ever gave her as a client. But she is Thai and not Filipina 😅.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2951737]In my experience of mongering, I've met only one provider that apparently doesn't have some horrible backstory. She just genuinely enjoys what she does and the money it brings. And, like Phil said, it's because I've become good friends with her over several years. I've met most of the people important in her life, including her children. I haven't seen her a a client for years, and she has given me far more money as a friend than I ever gave her as a client. But she is Thai and not Filipina 😅.[/QUOTE]Every one of them is crewed in the head. That is the price.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2951781]Every one of them is crewed in the head. That is the price.[/QUOTE]Is that a bad thing?? The best fucks in my life have all been batshit crazy women.

G.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2951737]In general, the common thread I have found is that almost every girl has a low-life man as part of her story. [/QUOTE]True and traditionally the closer that bond should be, the more damage done when it's broken. Father's selling daughters to pay alcohol and gambling debts and especially mothers tricking out daughters jumps to mind. Can't be good for the soul.

G.

Hi Guys,

As I generally visit Sabang on every trip to the Phils see my regular hottie, I just thought I'd share some useful updated info for the assistance of of others. If you're after an alternative to Angeles and actually have some fun in a place with a decent view surrounded by water, I'd recommend checking it out. It's pretty close to Manila and the girls don't seem to be as aggressive in their approach as they are AC and definitely not like those in Makati from experience.

Getting there:

Bus it to Batangas Port.

Yes you can hire a private van or taxi and I've done it once, but not worth the cash in my opinion, especially after you pay all the tolls along the way, or get stuck with an annoying driver.

The trick is to get a bus down there out of Manila on a weekend. You'll arrive at the port in approx two hours and you'll have a few options.

I generally get myself to the Buendia bus terminal and get the Jam Liner bus for under 500 p. Aim to get there about 830-9 am. The busses are supposed to depart on the hour, but it is The Phils, so they can take off at any time. Just get on one and it'll take off at some stage. The advantage of the Jam Liner service is they head down there all day, so if you miss one, there'll be another.

The other option is the Si-Kat Bus service. Si-Kat offers a combined tourist bus and boat service daily from Manila to Puerto Galera and back.

9:30 AM Si-KAT Bus departs at City State Tower, Mabini St. , Ermita, Manila.

11:30 AM Arrival at Batangas Pier.

1:00 PM Ferry Departure.

2:30 PM Ferry Arrival at Balatero Pier, Puerto Galera.

The advantage of this service is the whole trip is on one ticket, however the Jam Liner option works out cheaper and more flexible.

Batangas Port:

This is where your bus will pull up. They used to stop right by the terminal entrance but now offload a block up the road. There's a fairly large 7-11 on the corner where you can stock up on beer, snacks and water for the trip ahead. Just follow the crowd down past all the vendors and you'll be heading in the right direction. You'll encounter a swarm of guys trying to 'help' you with your luggage. Just tell them to fuck off in the nicest possible way. You'll go through a security check at the port entrance and be prepared to have your cigarette lighter confiscated (I still wonder where they all end up in the land of lighter confiscation).

The Batangas terminal is actually quite modern with some fairly decent food options and really clean CRs. If you've travelled by Si-Kat, you'll already have a fastcat ticket. If you've done the Jam Liner hike, you'll need to buy a ticket for your aqua trip. You'll also have to pay a port tax in a separate line which will only cost 30 p. All the ticket booths are clearly sign-posted regarding the destinations and if you can't find the right one, just ask someone. There is an option to take the slower and cheaper RORO (roll on roll off ferry) option. It's cheaper though much slower than a fastcat. On average the fastcat trip will take you about 1. 5 hours to get to to Puerto Galera.

Hint: The Puerto Galera Yacht Club has always had the most up-to-date ferry schedules listed on their website: [URL]https://www.pgyc.org/ferry-sched.php[/URL].

Puerto Galera:

Well, there's not much there but it's not a bad spot. Upon arrival you'll be hit with a modest visitor tax and then you'll be greeted by the trike mafia outside the terminal. Expect to pay about 300 p to get to Sabang by trike but it's quite a scenic ride in parts. It takes around 20 minutes and you'll be dropped right in the action of Sabang or depending where your hotel is, they might be able to drop you at the door now the new boardwalk is finished.

Sabang:

Well there's plenty of info online about the girly action, but a lot is outdated. Basically there's a long alley (you can't miss it) that comes alive at night with many established gogo bars and those that come and go. Sorry, I can't give you prices as I've never really done the barfine and LD drink option and prefer bedding non bar girls who aren't as profit driven and I prefer all my rewards go to the girls.

I visit Sabang regularly to see a girlfriend who happens to be the fuck of the century (and before you ask again, you can't have her WhatsApp details buddy. Go and find your own pussy)!

All I know, and have been told by locals is, it's cheaper than AC and Makati. Oh, and it's predominately a diving destination. It doesn't matter if you don't dive, you'll still have fun. But I've just observed that in high season, there's the old issue of Korean divers hunting in packs and cleaning the bars out of talent early in the evening. You'll generally have a better choice of talent when the place is a bit quieter.

Although there's no beach in the heart of Sabang, especially now the new boardwalk is complete, it offers a nice outlook right on the water with ships passing by and some pretty things walking by that are very pleasing to the eye. There's a really decent little supermarket right in the heart of it at the start of the alley. There's also some good food options in town. If you want a decent beach, it's a fairly short walk around to Big Laguna. You could also get a trike with your girl and take a trip to White Beach. It's relatively nice, though more geared to Pinoys making the short trip for a Manila getaway. You'll still probably get asked if you want a girl though.

Getting Back to Manila:

I've always used the Si-Kat bus / fastcat option. And once again, on a weekend if I can to avoid the heavy weekday Manila traffic. You can buy a ticket in a small store just a few minutes up the road from the supermarket. It's best to buy it at least three days before your departure in case seats are sold out (peak season). They can arrange a trike to get you back to the port as well. The trike will stop at a small ticket office prior to the port where they give you the port tax in coins as it's included in the ticket price.

Puerto Galera to Manila schedule:

11:00 AM Ferry Departure from Balatero Pier, Puerto Galera to Manila.

12:30 PM Arrival at Batangas Pier.

12:30 PM Si-KAT Bus Departure for Manila.

3:30 PM Estimated Arrival in Mabini St. , Ermita, Manila.

Once in Manila:

Prior to the bus getting to Manila, they will have one decent rest stop on the way. If you want to go to the airport, Makati or Angeles, have a word to the lady on the bus and they'll stop to drop you off at their stop before Ermita. From there you can get a Grab or a taxi to the Pasay bus station if your heading to Dau (Angeles) or a Grab or taxi to the airport or to Makati for about 300-400 p.

Well, I hope this may be of assistance. I've just found a lot of schedules and info online about travelling to Sabang is outdated or incorrect. I first went to Sabang once everything opened up post covid and have always had a great time there. I just find it a more scenic option to AC and have always lived by the water, so it suits me. It's also relatively close to Manila. Plus, I met an amazing girl there on my first visit and she never fails to disappoint.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2951898]Hi Guys,

As I generally visit Sabang on every trip to the Phils see my regular hottie, I just thought I'd share some useful updated info for the assistance of of others. If you're after an alternative to Angeles and actually have some fun in a place with a decent view surrounded by water, I'd recommend checking it out. It's pretty close to Manila and the girls don't seem to be as aggressive in their approach as they are AC and definitely not like those in Makati from experience......

_Phil.[/QUOTE]Good 'ol Sabang. It holds some of my best memories for nights out and fun girls. A long time ago but I had some mind altering nights there and have very fond memories of girls that I would repeatedly barfine for weeks at a time.

I'd agree that it has its own tone. Getting there is still relatively easy and quick so it was and is very popular with the foreign expat set. Anyone could finish work on Friday, catch a red eye to Manila and be in Sabang in time for the first dive boats on Saturday morning. That may be a stretch now that the direct boats have stopped but it's still pretty convenient.

The upside of this is that Sabang sees a lot of repeat business rather than a constant flow of gullible tourists. This means that the businesses and girls soon learn the benefit of providing good service to keep guys coming back. Add to this this system of paying 50% bar fine upfront but then the girls portion is at risk and not paid until the morning before she leaves. I assume this is still the case??

One shot runners are becoming more prevalent, like everywhere. However, the normal timeline was a 6 pm start at the bars to secure a hotty, home relatively early for the first shot, a second midnight shot, leave her to sleep in in the morning while the first dive boat goes out, return for a third and final shot, then she goes home early afternoon to start the whole process over.

One of the things that may have been lost to time is that Sabang also had some very good floor shows. Pole dancers were a definite favourite of mine. Certainly much better than the bored shuffle we got elsewhere.

Sabang is definitely a place that should be on the radar of guys looking for mixed diving and girls. Strangely enough, there aren't a lot of them around the Philippines.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2952164] I'd agree that it has its own tone. Getting there is still relatively easy and quick so it was and is very popular with the foreign expat set. Anyone could finish work on Friday, catch a red eye to Manila and be in Sabang in time for the first dive boats on Saturday morning. That may be a stretch now that the direct boats have stopped but it's still pretty convenient.

The upside of this is that Sabang sees a lot of repeat business rather than a constant flow of gullible tourists. This means that the businesses and girls soon learn the benefit of providing good service to keep guys coming back. Add to this this system of paying 50% bar fine upfront but then the girls portion is at risk and not paid until the morning before she leaves. I assume this is still the case??

One of the things that may have been lost to time is that Sabang also had some very good floor shows. Pole dancers were a definite favourite of mine. Certainly much better than the bored shuffle we got elsewhere.

Sabang is definitely a place that should be on the radar of guys looking for mixed diving and girls. Strangely enough, there aren't a lot of them around the Philippines.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I have to agree G.

It's relatively close to Manila and in my opinion, a lot nicer than AC and Manila primarily because you're by the water in a place a lot nicer than Subic.

I've always had good service there but I do things a little differently in my approach avoiding the bar fines etc. For example, my current girl arrangement is a reward of 1500 p per day. But she knows she's basically guaranteed that pay packet every day I'm there and on a daily basis.

The current Sabang GF was a pole dancer, but gave it away as her teenage kids started to walk down the alley and spot her through the doors of the clubs. She's now just a regular waitress in a 'normal' bar but has still got all the moves.

I've been there enough times now to meet and befriend a lot of locals and business owners, and when prompted about her, they've basically backed up everything she's told me about herself. Having said that, I'm not naive. I realize she's probably got another four of me on the go.

I just find a huge advantage is learning and using some Tagalog when in The Phils. Locals are generally apprehensive to talk about you with other locals or girls while you're present, as they're unsure what you can actually understand.

I enjoy playing the game and Sabang is a nice part of the puzzle and has left me with some very fond memories every time _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2952330]I have to agree G.

It's relatively close to Manila and in my opinion, a lot nicer than AC and Manila primarily because you're by the water in a place a lot nicer than Subic.

I've always had good service there but I do things a little differently in my approach avoiding the bar fines etc. For example, my current girl arrangement is a reward of 1500 p per day. But she knows she's basically guaranteed that pay packet every day I'm there and on a daily basis.

The current Sabang GF was a pole dancer, but gave it away as her teenage kids started to walk down the alley and spot her through the doors of the clubs. She's now just a regular waitress in a 'normal' bar but has still got all the moves.

I've been there enough times now to meet and befriend a lot of locals and business owners, and when prompted about her, they've basically backed up everything she's told me about herself. Having said that, I'm not naive. I realize she's probably got another four of me on the go.

I just find a huge advantage is learning and using some Tagalog when in The Phils. Locals are generally apprehensive to talk about you with other locals or girls while you're present, as they're unsure what you can actually understand.

I enjoy playing the game and Sabang is a nice part of the puzzle and has left me with some very fond memories every time _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I concur about learning some Tagalog. If you're there regularly, it is really a must. You get treated differently when they see you are at least trying to learn. They aren't just apprehensive to talk about you, but they actually appreciate it. I tend to get "locals" pricing on everything, even as a foreigner.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2952330]

The current Sabang GF was a pole dancer, but gave it away as her teenage kids started to walk down the alley and spot her through the doors of the clubs. She's now just a regular waitress in a 'normal' bar but has still got all the moves.

.[/QUOTE]You're making me jealous. I have many, many great memories of Sabang pole dancers. I'll admit that I was totally kunt struck over several of them for a long time. A couple were completely crazy and had to go after a short but torrid affair. However, the majority were simply great fun, with magnificent toned bodies and fantastic in the sack.

Depending on when she retired, probabaly best you don't give me too many identifying clues about her. LOL.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2952330]Having said that, I'm not naive. I realize she's probably got another four of me on the go.

[/QUOTE]I had a special girl in Sabang years ago. I would always fly in and keep her for my whole stay. This happened several times a year and continued for several years. We got on really well, always had a great time and developed a special bond. She was special to me and I was special to her. Then:

Me: Baby, I'm coming back to Sabang. Are you going to be in town after XXXX??

Her: Sure. Sorry who is this? I lost all my contacts.

Me: It's G. I'll be staying at ZZZZ hotel again.

Her: Which G??

Ouch.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2952393]

Me: Baby, I'm coming back to Sabang. Are you going to be in town after XXXX??

Her: Sure. Sorry who is this? I lost all my contacts.

Me: It's G. I'll be staying at ZZZZ hotel again.

Her: Which G??.[/QUOTE]So she has a minimum of 2 guys named Goferring that stay at the same hotel. Possibly more Goferrings that stay at other hotels. I am in tears and pain from learning this. Seriously my tummy hurts and so many tears from laughing so hard.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2952391]You're making me jealous. I have many, many great memories of Sabang pole dancers. I'll admit that I was totally kunt struck over several of them for a long time. A couple were completely crazy and had to go after a short but torrid affair. However, the majority were simply great fun, with magnificent toned bodies and fantastic in the sack.

Depending on when she retired, probabaly best you don't give me too many identifying clues about her. LOL.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Yes G, It's probably best if we don't go there.

What I will say is, a few of the older ones really know how to work 'the pole' compared to the young, greedy things.

(No time wasted on their phones or watching TV in the aircon. Just great bedroom action and they know they'll get rewarded for it and get repeat business).

My phone pings about three times a a day, cause she knows next month, she's basically guaranteed 1500 p a day when I'm back in Sabang.

I travel to The Phils for business and if only some of the companies I deal with were as efficient with their communication as the girls, it would make things a whole lot easier.

-Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2952393]I had a special girl in Sabang years ago. I would always fly in and keep her for my whole stay. This happened several times a year and continued for several years. We got on really well, always had a great time and developed a special bond. She was special to me and I was special to her. Then:

Me: Baby, I'm coming back to Sabang. Are you going to be in town after XXXX??

Her: Sure. Sorry who is this? I lost all my contacts.

Me: It's G. I'll be staying at ZZZZ hotel again.

Her: Which G??

Ouch.[/QUOTE]Either A) she's deliberately trying to hurt your feelings, or B) she has no idea how to play the game.

Either way, that's one stupid *****.

Butuan IV.

The coast is clear so I bus back to Butuan unannounced only to find that DD's is leaving to go to the province for the weekend. Does she want to come over tonight? Sure. But she has to be on the 9 pm bus. It's already 7 so I reply thanks but I'm not in to quickies. Arrive, pump and run does nothing for me. When exactly am I leaving Butuan? Monday. Why? She's won't be back until Monday and can I stay until after that? I guess I could if she makes it worthwhile for me to change my plans? She asks if all day and night with these is worth extending for??

See images.

I cancel the Monday departure and extend the hotel stay.

I had been chatting with, and had a dinner as ground work for, another prospect. This one is totally out of my normal target group. 28, single, no kids, a meaningful degree and impressive work history. Has a very real job in the corporate world. Excellent English and a sensible head on her shoulders. She clearly has some bucks behind her. Just organising dinner was a minefield competing with work commitments and being dog tired after a big day at the office. The second dinner at a nice restaurant goes well. She orders a light meal rather than the most expensive steak or food for 18. She's dressed modestly but can't hide some nice cans. Conversation is flowing. We make each other laugh. Tonight might be the night. Then "have you had dinner with any other girls in Butuan". Just one, I lie. I'm such a fucking idiot: Instant shut down and lock out. Talk about a rookie mistake. I'm sent straight to the Friend Zone. The conversation is still polite. She is still talkative but the tone has changed noticeably. She's now too tired to go find a follow on coffee. Does she want to come back to my place is met with a curt no. I've totally fucked up this one. It's a shame as she is great company and I definitely want to see more of her, both clothed and unclothed. Idiot!!

The next couple of days are a jumble of false starts and trying resurect Corporate Girl. I basically decide on the direct approach and just lay the cards on the table: I enjoy her company but I'm too old for playing Friend Zone games forever. Turns out there are three problems: she's not getting caught going into a 1000 peso hotel for an hour with a foreigner; she's not going to jump into bed with someone after two dates and; she's not going to be a home wrecker or 'the other woman'. Problems 1 & 2 are easily fixed: a night at a Airbnb away from prying eyes; we sleep together and I stop when ever she feels uncomfortable. Problem 3 is a non event because I make it perfectly clear that I'm not looking for a girlfriend and promise this will not be an ongoing affair. She's ok with these so everything is booked for two days later.

I've got a day to wait for the AirBnB and the flood gates open. Some are flakes but some pan out.

Virgin girl messages out of the blue. She's at home doing nothing and her 'bleeding' has stopped. I don't ask or expand on exactly what the bleeding was. A few more chats then: want to come over again? And. Silence. 🤦.

A couple of other girls similarly fade away, busy with work or some other excuse.

Another who came over earlier in the trip doesn't hate me any more. She's also doing nothing at home, with no classes today. I promise the usual deal: two unrushed pops for 1 k. 20 minutes later she knocking on the door. She's not the prettiest but she puts in the effort. 3 full and one aborted pops and a fair attempt at anal later, I'm spent and exhausted. WhatsApp buzzes that another girl is on the way so I reply that I'm out but will call when I'm back in the room. Girlie gets a raise to 1500 for the extra effort and I say it's time for her to leave 'becaise I'm tired'. She actually questioned why I paid her extra.

The girl who brought me the meds a couple of weeks back called earlier and said she wants to meet up before I go. She'll drop around later after lunch. By 3 pm I thought she was a no show so I told the girl above to drop around. As always, she messages that she's on the way at the most inopportune time. One girl goes as one is arriving. Luckily, this is one of those girls who can get blood from a stone. Again, not the prettiest but she delivers in an emergency. An A-grade BBBJ certainly helps. I manage (or she drags out of me) one pop and a fakie. She wants to go eat / buy some lotion / insert random funding request. I have no interest in a shopping trip so beg off saying that I'll just give her the money and she can get what ever she wants. I over pay 2 k for going above and beyond and everyone is happy.

I was worried that DDs is due back today and wants to come over to express her thanks for staying until she returned from the province. There is no way I can muster up the energy to preform for the 24 HR thank you session that she promised. Early evening she messages me. She's back in Butuan but, thankfully, she's got a fever. Is it a fever, a boyfriend, mom's gone nuts, who knows?? But it saves my bacon and she promises to defer to another day before I leave. I'm rapidly running out of days but this will be a priority.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2952938]Either A) she's deliberately trying to hurt your feelings, or B) she has no idea how to play the game.

Either way, that's one stupid *****.[/QUOTE]I read it as humorous.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2953019]Butuan IV..[/QUOTE]Damn those are nice, G. Drooling.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2953051]I read it as humorous.[/QUOTE]That's also how I received it. Many of us guys can get an over inflated sense of worth to the girls.

G.

I was in out in a province town that was a decent size. Got bored and searched online for outcall hotel massage. Got 2 good looking 19&20 yo girls for 600 per hour per girl. One girl would only do HJ for 1. 5 k and the other one would do full service for 7 k. Problem was the 7 k girl keep negotiating for more. Finally settled at 5 k. And other girl would hide in the CR.

Before her clothes go off 5 k girl starts to asked for more and rules now. Pretty hard to maintain a hard one at this point as you guys know. I got a little angry with her and told her to forget it and kicked them both out! LOL. Sometimes kicking them to the curb is better than having a lousy session!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2953857]Before her clothes go off 5 k girl starts to asked for more and rules now. Pretty hard to maintain a hard one at this point as you guys know. I got a little angry with her and told her to forget it and kicked them both out! LOL. Sometimes kicking them to the curb is better than having a lousy session![/QUOTE]Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.

* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954146]Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.

* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.[/QUOTE]Update on that.

2 days later I booked the 19 yo again. I just couldn't resist that young tight body. I only had P600 at risk for the hour. She came in and asked massage sir? I said later after full service for 5 k? She smiled and agreed. Mind blowing session! She was a young flower ready to bloom. Bloomed she did. She said she was shy the other day with the other girl around. I found out why, she was a moaner. Which I love!

Later on she referred me to a 20 yo, slightly chubby from the spa. The spa tried to up sell me on 2 girls. I learned my lesson. Only the one ma'am. Miss chub was fantastic and horny as hell. Another province bloomer. Had to extend the session to 2 hours for 2 pops with her. These country bumpkins are amazing.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954146]Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.

* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.[/QUOTE]I do exactly the same, I gladly give a good tip for a good performance, but if there is any attempt to renegotiate what we agreed for, that's the end of it, it spoils the mood, she will have to go, after that sometimes they try to down sell it, but I'm not interested any more.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2954159]Had to extend the session to 2 hours for 2 pops with her. These country bumpkins are amazing.[/QUOTE]The province is Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Wildly pleasant things happen. And also the opposite. Don't let one bad experience (or town) stop you from exploring when you have more time on your hands. If you come to a country known as the wild west of sex, expect to kiss some frogs and rock some skinnies.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954146]Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.

* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.[/QUOTE]I sort of agree. Depends on the circumstances. Of course, anyone trying to scam or hold out for more money is straight out the door. However some girls just don't know what is required of them and / or are testing boundaries. I've found that explosive arguments rarely fix anything. Rather, explaining he who has the money makes the rules often does. If that fails, I've also explained to girls that they are welcome to sit around all night on their phone but don't get upset when I don't need to pay them in the morning.

For those that can't be seen as naughty, it's just a game: platonic first dinners are often more than compensated for on the second night. As are offers to come up "to see the room". There are a million of them and I just find it easiest to just play along.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954146]Any girl who causes Sir Westy Junior to dip-the-angle once the clothes come off* gets a quick boot with fare only, or +200 for some foods given her travel time.

* Alternately, even if the angle-of-the-dangle does not drop, any girl who attempts to renegotiate gets the same boot. Its an attempted scam every time. If you say yes to her new and increased peso request, you know you are being ripped off. If you say no and she agrees to stay for the original price, you get a crappy session. No last-minute profiteering.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with Westcoast. I had a girl show up the other day who was a friend of a friend from PinaLove and we had agreed to no condom for 3 k pesos before she arrived.

The she arrived and wanted a condom or more money.

I kicked her out and I didn't even give her fare money. I already felt ripped off that I had paid for her first joyride fare good thing it was only 76 pesos.

Not sure how she got back to where she came from and I really don't care.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954381]The province is Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Wildly pleasant things happen. And also the opposite. Don't let one bad experience (or town) stop you from exploring when you have more time on your hands. If you come to a country known as the wild west of sex, expect to kiss some frogs and rock some skinnies.[/QUOTE]Don't forget that no means no except when it means try again. 😁.

Butuan V.

I finally got the corporate girl to relent for an Airbnb. She still won't fuck me so I've got lock jaw from sucking her ample tits and eating her out all night. I've never been so tired from NOT getting laid. No cash involved and she taxis to work at 06:30. As crazy as it sounds, this is way more fun than to hit and run some brainless 19 yo.

I get the feeling it's all a matter of time. Just waiting to flick the 'I'm shy'ride me hard' switch. I've already seen that when she is comfortable, the wild child comes out. She pulled some Conor McGregor shit last night: jumped on top, held my wrists down on the bed, pinned my shoulders and upper body with her forehead and rode me into the ground. I could not move while she was grinding away. Never had that before. But 'I'm shy'. Bullshit!! 😜.

The same two girls cross paths again. This time one is leaving while the other is waiting in the lobby. Yeah, it was close. The first girl gave a good session before I made up another excuse why it was time to go early. I must be over paying because she seemed truely confused why she was still getting the full 1 k after only one shot. The original deal before the log jam was two shots plus anal over a few hours for 1 k. I think local guys are probably giving her a handshake and that's about all. Luckily the second girl gets sick of waiting and leaves. After a tense few WhatsApp mesages she agrees to return after work. This time she wants some fake nails. Again, my excuse is that I'm not spending all day shopping for nails and makeup so here's 2 k and you can get them yourself. I think I may have set a precedence for over paying but what's an extra $8. The next day, I ignore messages showing her bike in pieces at the mechanic because she doesn't have 1500 for repairs.

I spend a day or two trying to lockdown corporate girl for a dirty weekend. She's great fun to be with but finding gaps in her work, family and social schedule is an absolute nightmare. I'm more use to calling up girls with meaningless jobs and they can talk anytime, often for a couple of hours, while allegedly working. Nails / motorbike girl even dropped around for her sessions during the workday and no-one even missed her for 3 hours. Real jobs and real responsibilities are new to me and truely suck. I'm sure a few will admonish me for simping but with so much pussy on tap it's great to actually spend some time with someone with some brains and life experiences. After a while, time to nutt becomes a meaningless measuring stick.

The dirty weekend is finally a goer. After work on Friday to Monday morning. A not too sleezy Airbnb is booked and I transfer lodgings at 2 pm. I message said girlie and she's all systems go. However, at 8 pm I'm still sitting in the condo. Clearly she's flaked. So now I'm stuck with an apartment I don't want in a area miles form anywhere for the whole weekend. A few moments later, whatsapp rings and she's outside. There was a going away party for someone at work. As predicted she's a good girl for the first three hours. No, she's not ready for sex. We just met. Yada Yada Yada. So I'm resigned to more titty sucking and eating her out. Sitting on my back being waterboarded with pussy juice is a particular favourite. I do have to say, it is some sweet tasting pussy so I didn't object. Shortly after she's stradling me, slowly rocking away, when she leans forward at just the right angle and I'm now slipping inside. Purely by accident of course. She's worried this shouldn't be happening. What is going on?? We shouldn't be doing this!! Meanwhile, she's still grinding away until I'm fully inside. After that, there was no more pretending and the wild child is indeed released.

Many girls tell the story that they haven't had sex for years but their pussy looks like an over stuffed suitcase and they are like fucking a bowl of water. She is the opposite: tight enough that it's a struggle to get a finger in and nothing looks like it's been through a meet grinder.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954627]Butuan V.

I finally got the corporate girl to relent for an Airbnb. She still won't fuck me so I've got lock jaw from sucking her ample tits and eating her out all night. I've never been so tired from NOT getting laid. No cash involved and she taxis to work at 06:30. As crazy as it sounds, this is way more fun than to hit and run some brainless 19 yo................................................... She's worried this shouldn't be happening. What is going on?? We shouldn't be doing this!! Meanwhile, she's still grinding away until I'm fully inside. After that, there was no more pretending and the wild child is indeed released.

Many girls tell the story that they haven't had sex for years but their pussy looks like an over stuffed suitcase and they are like fucking a bowl of water. She is the opposite: tight enough that it's a struggle to get a finger in and nothing looks like it's been through a meet grinder.[/QUOTE]It looks like was worth the wait. I worked on my GF for about a month until it happened, same deal univ graduate, high moral grounds, etc. For me was like a new game (I was still getting some on the side) and was, and still is, extremely rewarding.

Couldn't resist calling the 19 yo again. Had another good session with her. This time she is using her nails into my back while moaning softly. Extremely hard not to cum with this response but I was holding on, for another minute!

Later on I called for 20 yo Ms. Chub but she wasn't available. Send me a new one po. Slim 24 yo arrives. Nice body with 2 kids. No body damage. Sexually mature and knows how to softly stroke junior and lightly touch and squeeze the balls.

20 yo Ms. Chub for another day.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2954929]Couldn't resist calling the 19 yo again. Had another good session with her. This time she is using her nails into my back while moaning softly. Extremely hard not to cum with this response but I was holding on, for another minute!

Later on I called for 20 yo Ms. Chub but she wasn't available. Send me a new one po. Slim 24 yo arrives. Nice body with 2 kids. No body damage. Sexually mature and knows how to softly stroke junior and lightly touch and squeeze the balls.

20 yo Ms. Chub for another day.[/QUOTE]Shame what you seem to be suffering thru.

There's talk that the provincial girls can be delightful man-pleasers. Probably just a rumor.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954971]Shame what you seem to be suffering thru.

There's talk that the provincial girls can be delightful man-pleasers. Probably just a rumor.[/QUOTE]Yes, I had to suffer on. Last day I saw a FB page of a new masseuse 22 yo spinner. Came to the room and was very professional and gave a good massage. Wasn't sure if any extras were available but I asked her. Long pause and what did you have in mind sir? Full service of course. Long pause again then just happens my mother had called and we need food. She has 6 young siblings and she is the bread winner. Her father passed away a few years ago. Normally she makes about 12 k a month and it is enough to feed the family but business has been real slow.

I said glad to help! All I can said is when these province girls let loose they let loose.

Butuan VI.

The dirty weekend with Corporate Girl went really well. She became noticeable more comfortable and inhibitions started to fall. At the end of the weekend, I extended the Airbnb booking and she essentially moved in. Conditions remain the same: no cash payment, I pay her transport to / from work and meet the living expenses. I did agree to fund her brother going to her house daily to check in things, feed her dogs etc. That was a generous 2 k for my entire stay but I'm not arguing. She provides unlimited access and sex is now on tap. My stamina is now the limiting factor, not her concerns or shyness. That's plenty for me so I'm not getting any casual infills during the day or while she is at work. After a long warm up period, the good girl games have fallen away and now she's down for pretty much anything I ask for.

We did another weekend, this time out of town. She was far more relaxed away from the threat of being seen by family and especially workmates. It's was good to be with someone who dressed and acted appropriately. I've travelled with girls before who screamed hooker for hire. They were great fun in bed but out in public they caused non stop stares and commotion. I would often meet regular people during the day, who would happily chat. However, once the hooker arrived, wearing an ounce of clothing and glued to her phone, all conversation ceased. That definitely wasn't the case with corporate girl. She as an individual and we as a couple were accepted everywhere. I did notice that we were pounced upon far more by beggars, porters, guides and others looking for "tips" than when I was by myself. I'm not sure why.

I have noticed a few differences with her from girls who routinely work the foreigner or expat circuit.

Like any pina, you take any assurances of limited past boyfriends and experience with a grain of salt. However, it's obvious that she hasnt spent much time with a foreigner. Long relaxed sessions are totally foreign to her. Short but furious sessions are the norm obviously driven by the lack of privacy and alone time in any Philippines house. Also, despite adamant denials, I'm sure that a lot of her training and experience has come from porn rather than another human being. Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half or released entirely. If only I had another 6" to stay in like the stars. 😜.

I also had to explain to her the differences between Asian and foreign guys' preferences. She felt a need to appear innocent and inexperienced. It was as if immediately showing any skills in the bedroom identified her as a slutt. I let her know that western guys appreciate experience and enjoy a good time rather than focus on conquering an inexperienced girl. An example would be her initial reluctance to give a BBBJ. This was despite me regularly going down on her on She always seemed to have an excuse: she didn't like it; she didn't know how; she wasn't ready etc. After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2956566]Butuan VI.

The dirty weekend with Corporate Girl went really well. She became noticeable more comfortable and inhibitions started to fall. At the end of the weekend, I extended the Airbnb booking and she essentially moved in. Conditions remain the same: no cash payment, I pay her transport to / from work and meet the living expenses. I did agree to fund her brother going to her house daily to check in things, feed her dogs etc. That was a generous 2 k for my entire stay but I'm not arguing. She provides unlimited access and sex is now on tap. My stamina is now the limiting factor, not her concerns or shyness. That's plenty for me so I'm not getting any casual infills during the day or while she is at work. After a long warm up period, the good girl games have fallen away and now she's down for pretty much anything I ask for.

We did another weekend, this time out of town. She was far more relaxed away from the threat of being seen by family and especially workmates. It's was good to be with someone who dressed and acted appropriately. I've travelled with girls before who screamed hooker for hire. They were great fun in bed but out in public they caused non stop stares and commotion. I would often meet regular people during the day, who would happily chat. However, once the hooker arrived, wearing an ounce of clothing and glued to her phone, all conversation ceased. That definitely wasn't the case with corporate girl. She as an individual and we as a couple were accepted everywhere. I did notice that we were pounced upon far more by beggars, porters, guides and others looking for "tips" than when I was by myself. I'm not sure why.

I have noticed a few differences with her from girls who routinely work the foreigner or expat circuit.

Like any pina, you take any assurances of limited past boyfriends and experience with a grain of salt. However, it's obvious that she hasnt spent much time with a foreigner. Long relaxed sessions are totally foreign to her. Short but furious sessions are the norm obviously driven by the lack of privacy and alone time in any Philippines house. Also, despite adamant denials, I'm sure that a lot of her training and experience has come from porn rather than another human being. Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half or released entirely. If only I had another 6" to stay in like the stars. 😜.

I also had to explain to her the differences between Asian and foreign guys' preferences. She felt a need to appear innocent and inexperienced. It was as if immediately showing any skills in the bedroom identified her as a slutt. I let her know that western guys appreciate experience and enjoy a good time rather than focus on conquering an inexperienced girl. An example would be her initial reluctance to give a BBBJ. This was despite me regularly going down on her on She always seemed to have an excuse: she didn't like it; she didn't know how; she wasn't ready etc. After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I've noticed, too, that I get accosted by beggars, porters, etc. , more often when I am with a partner. I think it has to do with culture. Filipinos are, in general, more likely to share with anyone else, even a total stranger. Sharing with those less fortunate is impressive to many women there. Beggars and others know that and will come to you, thinking you will give them (more) to make sure the woman sees it.

As for giving a blow job, I'm thinking that isn't as prevalent there as in the west. Is this true? Personally, it is take it or leave it for me. Other things turn me on a lot more. One partner was eager to try it because, later, she told me she saw it in porn all the time and she thought it's what Americans liked. I told her I enjoy, but not that much. She still will sometimes. My other partner was reluctant, but surprised me one day and tried it. I'm sure it was her first time because of how she did it! When I asked her about it, she said her tradition didn't do that, so she had never done it before. So, it it someone there among Filipinos? I don't know hehehe.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2956578]

As for giving a blow job, I'm thinking that isn't as prevalent there as in the west. Is this true? [/QUOTE]I've met two types of girls: those that give the minimum amount of head possible to stop their guy complaining and those that truely get off on it themselves and do it whenever possible. I've never met a girl in between.

This tour of the provinces, I've come across more girls who haven't met a lot of foreigners. I'd agree that the fewer foreigners she has met the less likely she is to give head. That's a general statement. Of course there are always outliers in both directions. My very unscientific explanation is that most pinas don't have the time or privacy to do it much and the guys tend to concentrate on hopping on and getting off.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2956566]Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half. [/QUOTE]GFE. The horror!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2956566]After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.[/QUOTE]Seems you and DG are soldiering on in the province. This thread has become a good alternative to the AC thread.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2956566]Butuan VI.

The dirty weekend with Corporate Girl went really well. She became noticeable more comfortable and inhibitions started to fall. At the end of the weekend, I extended the Airbnb booking and she essentially moved in. Conditions remain the same: no cash payment, I pay her transport to / from work and meet the living expenses. I did agree to fund her brother going to her house daily to check in things, feed her dogs etc. That was a generous 2 k for my entire stay but I'm not arguing. She provides unlimited access and sex is now on tap. My stamina is now the limiting factor, not her concerns or shyness. That's plenty for me so I'm not getting any casual infills during the day or while she is at work. After a long warm up period, the good girl games have fallen away and now she's down for pretty much anything I ask for.

We did another weekend, this time out of town. She was far more relaxed away from the threat of being seen by family and especially workmates. It's was good to be with someone who dressed and acted appropriately. I've travelled with girls before who screamed hooker for hire. They were great fun in bed but out in public they caused non stop stares and commotion. I would often meet regular people during the day, who would happily chat. However, once the hooker arrived, wearing an ounce of clothing and glued to her phone, all conversation ceased. That definitely wasn't the case with corporate girl. She as an individual and we as a couple were accepted everywhere. I did notice that we were pounced upon far more by beggars, porters, guides and others looking for "tips" than when I was by myself. I'm not sure why.

I have noticed a few differences with her from girls who routinely work the foreigner or expat circuit.

Like any pina, you take any assurances of limited past boyfriends and experience with a grain of salt. However, it's obvious that she hasnt spent much time with a foreigner. Long relaxed sessions are totally foreign to her. Short but furious sessions are the norm obviously driven by the lack of privacy and alone time in any Philippines house. Also, despite adamant denials, I'm sure that a lot of her training and experience has come from porn rather than another human being. Positions are the porn favourites. She's extremely active in bed. However, even these mimic a porn show in aggression and exaggerated movements. Several times I've almost been snapped in half or released entirely. If only I had another 6" to stay in like the stars. 😜.

I also had to explain to her the differences between Asian and foreign guys' preferences. She felt a need to appear innocent and inexperienced. It was as if immediately showing any skills in the bedroom identified her as a slutt. I let her know that western guys appreciate experience and enjoy a good time rather than focus on conquering an inexperienced girl. An example would be her initial reluctance to give a BBBJ. This was despite me regularly going down on her on She always seemed to have an excuse: she didn't like it; she didn't know how; she wasn't ready etc. After I complained that it was time to even up the score, that night she gave me an absolute knee trembler. It definitely wasn't her first and she knew exactly what she was doing. However, as I said, she felt the need to plead and show her "inexperience" first.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I'm not good at writing, but this is an accurate description of what I went thru about a year ago, including the porn star positions, the initial shyness, and especially the public appearance (we are still working on that one), and this is the reason for our multiple visits to AC, where she's not inhibited at all, and brings to life all her fantasies (for my delight). The only difference is that it took me way longer, more than one month of secret rendez-vous and public games like in the spy movies, acting like strangers, before we did it.

Butuan VII & The End.

Unfortunately, all good things need to come to an end. Funwise, there isn't much to add to the last report. Corporate Girl and I returned from the weekend away and she continued to stay every day in my AirBnB. Sex was great, on tap and only slowed down the very last days of my stay when her period rolled in. Even then, she still compensated with BBBJs and even a HJ so there was no need to change her out just for a day or two. Actually the HJ was a relaxing end to a pretty frantic few weeks.

I won't update my "free" sex posts as it also remained the same: no direct cash payments, just living and transport expenses. Towards the end I was in a quandary about how to handle the parting "gift". I felt I should give something but knew a payment for services would not be well received. I've had a couple of good girls in the past go absolutely nuts after I've paid them too much. The best solution I could come up with was to round up the grocery / shopping money. I probably "accidentally" over spent 1 or 2 k when she went to grab things at SM. I actually gave her more but she always seemed to spend the change on trinkets and food for me rather than keeping it as I intended.

A few standout positives for the trip.

59 days gave plenty of time to go slow, put in ground work where required and see plenty of people and places. It also allowed a quick lap of where I was going first, only stopping a few days at each place to decide on what's good and then a second, much slower, lap already knowing where to stay, what to do and where to go.

Bus transport was great as it allowed so much flexibility and spontaneity.

I met the whole range of girls: starting with the typical 19 yo airheads and young single mom's; progressing to repeating with skilled favourites and; finally settling with a sensible but skilled good girl. I even branched out to a few outside the norm: a set of mega tits, a plane Jane mom who did her best to kill me and a preggo to name a few.

I thoroughly enjoyed getting away from the typical monger haunts. Girls were much fresher, better attitudes and simply more fun too. Costs were rediculously low compared to $200 barfines and lady drinks.

Would I do it again / recommend a similar tour to others? For those who are self sufficient and have the time, sure.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957527]Butuan VII & The End.

Unfortunately, all good things need to come to an end. Funwise, there isn't much to add to the last report. Corporate Girl and I returned from the weekend away and she continued to stay every day in my AirBnB. Sex was great, on tap and only slowed down the very last days of my stay when her period rolled in. Even then, she still compensated with BBBJs and even a HJ so there was no need to change her out just for a day or two. Actually the HJ was a relaxing end to a pretty frantic few weeks.

I won't update my "free" sex posts as it also remained the same: no direct cash payments, just living and transport expenses. Towards the end I was in a quandary about how to handle the parting "gift". I felt I should give something but knew a payment for services would not be well received. I've had a couple of good girls in the past go absolutely nuts after I've paid them too much. The best solution I could come up with was to round up the grocery / shopping money. I probably "accidentally" over spent 1 or 2 k when she went to grab things at SM. I actually gave her more but she always seemed to spend the change on trinkets and food for me rather than keeping it as I intended.

A few standout positives for the trip.

59 days gave plenty of time to go slow, put in ground work where required and see plenty of people and places. It also allowed a quick lap of where I was going first, only stopping a few days at each place to decide on what's good and then a second, much slower, lap already knowing where to stay, what to do and where to go.

Bus transport was great as it allowed so much flexibility and spontaneity.

I met the whole range of girls: starting with the typical 19 yo airheads and young single mom's; progressing to repeating with skilled favourites and; finally settling with a sensible but skilled good girl. I even branched out to a few outside the norm: a set of mega tits, a plane Jane mom who did her best to kill me and a preggo to name a few.

I thoroughly enjoyed getting away from the typical monger haunts. Girls were much fresher, better attitudes and simply more fun too. Costs were rediculously low compared to $200 barfines and lady drinks.

Would I do it again / recommend a similar tour to others? For those who are self sufficient and have the time, sure.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I enjoyed reading about your provincial adventure! I have had technically good sex from working girls in Manila, but nothing matches the energy and sincerity that the girls in the provinces have. It isn't about cost. It's just that the experience is beyond compare. And, I know this is a mongering forum, but your chance of finding a Filipina that wants something real and that will take you to meet her family and see how she really lives is a real possibility. And I'm not talking about someone who wants a meal ticket, but something real. I'm lucky enough to have done it twice. The best month of my life was spent with a Filipina living in a bamboo house, cooking with firewood, limited electricity, and drinking filtered spring water. And the sex was very inexperienced, but the most passionately uninhibited that I have ever experienced. And I'm crazy enough to say that I’d prefer that to Manila any day!

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2957671]I enjoyed reading about your provincial adventure! I have had technically good sex from working girls in Manila, but nothing matches the energy and sincerity that the girls in the provinces have. [/QUOTE]Thanks. I'd agree that provincial girls take a lot of work but pay dividends to those who make the investment.

G.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2957671]The best month of my life was spent with a Filipina living in a bamboo house, cooking with firewood, limited electricity, and drinking filtered spring water. And the sex was very inexperienced, but the most passionately uninhibited that I have ever experienced. And I'm crazy enough to say that Id prefer that to Manila any day![/QUOTE]Girls who are happy with a simple life, sing while they prepare food, smile a lot, and ooze sex. Compare / contrast that with western women.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2957714]Girls who are happy with a simple life, sing while they prepare food, smile a lot, and ooze sex. Compare / contrast that with western women.[/QUOTE]Or a girl singing while she's squatting and cutting the hotel grass with a pair of scissors and within half an hour, she's squatting on you in your hotel room on an island off Cebu _ Oh, the memories _ got to love the Phils _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957527]I thoroughly enjoyed getting away from the typical monger haunts. Girls were much fresher, better attitudes and simply more fun too. Costs were rediculously low compared to $200 barfines and lady drinks.

Would I do it again / recommend a similar tour to others? For those who are self sufficient and have the time, sure.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Great reports and great reading G.

As my business restricts me to 3-4 business trips a year it makes it difficult to delve deep into the provinces at length. However, I generally try to venture somewhere else each time on a side trip. It makes it so worthwhile to try alternatives other than the typical monger haunts, bar fines, lady drinks etc.

My next trip is in about three weeks, and although Sabang has your typical bar scene, I'm heading down there again to see my little horizontal gymnast as it's an easy trip from Manila once the business stuff is out of the way.

I've always found that once you get out of the big cities (and that can be anywhere in the world) you get a better experience. It might take a bit more work, but very worthwhile and another contact to put in your book for future visits _ Phil.

Trip summary for my own benefit. Search Term Mindanao.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2943702]Makati.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944643]Surigao.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2946302]Butuan[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947074]I arrived in CDO[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947349]Just arrived in Davao[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947703]Davao.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947705]Battle of the generations.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948371]Davao cintinued.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948718]Davao Continues II.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948931]Davao Continues III.Spinner[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2949475]Butuan I. DDs arrives[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950103]Butuan II[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950207]Butuan II(b). Almost a Vorgin[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950854]Butuan III. DDs busted by mom[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2951623]Surigao II[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2953019]Butuan IV. Corporate Girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954627]Butuan V.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2956566]Butuan VI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957527]Butuan VII & The End.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2957719]

My next trip is in about three weeks, and although Sabang has your typical bar scene, I'm heading down there again to see my little horizontal gymnast as it's an easy trip from Manila once the business stuff is out of the way.

[/QUOTE]I'm just wondering out loud if you have ever gone further afield in Mindoro or even taken your girl sight seeing?? Calapan, White Beach, even Puerto Galera proper?

I know a few guys who have ridden around the island several times. Obviously not a mongering trip but they always spoke highly of the areas outside Sabang as well.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957886]I'm just wondering out loud if you have ever gone further afield in Mindoro or even taken your girl sight seeing?? Calapan, White Beach, even Puerto Galera proper?

I know a few guys who have ridden around the island several times. Obviously not a mongering trip but they always spoke highly of the areas outside Sabang as well.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Beautiful scenery, beautiful girls, lots of buffaloes, water falls, some beaches, dirt roads, friendly locals, few expats, and of course right in the middle of nowhere, up in the mountains, accessible only by kalabaw drawn carts or motorbike: koreans.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2957893]Beautiful scenery, beautiful girls, lots of buffaloes, water falls, some beaches, dirt roads, friendly locals, few expats, and of course right in the middle of nowhere, up in the mountains, accessible only by kalabaw drawn carts or motorbike: koreans.[/QUOTE]True I've been out in the sticks a few times and yes there are some beauties out there. Problem is for the 2 week warrior these places take time. In retirement these will be on my list for exploration.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957886]I'm just wondering out loud if you have ever gone further afield in Mindoro or even taken your girl sight seeing?? Calapan, White Beach, even Puerto Galera proper?

I know a few guys who have ridden around the island several times. Obviously not a mongering trip but they always spoke highly of the areas outside Sabang as well.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Hi G,

Yes I've gone for a ride with a few girls and seen a bit more other than Sabang.

White Beach is a bit sleepy in comparison, but worth a trip and it's really close.

It's more geared to those locals fleeing Manila for an escape. The hotels all seem to be old and dated and the beach is average, and nothing like the islands off Cebu like Bantayan.

The place gets packed during Phils holidays so there looked to be a chance to pick up a Manila tourist, but that can be slightly difficult when you have your own girl hanging off your arm. However, the first time I went there for a look I was solo and it was 11 am and I had guys approaching me asking if I was interested in a local girl.

Puerto Galera proper is worth a look, but not much happens there apart from everyday business for the locals.

I've also had a few side trips with a few girls and taken them out to lunch at places like small secluded beaches along the Western Nautical Highway.

Apart from that, I'm fairly restricted to my time when in Mindoro, so I haven't seen as much as I'd like to.

I'll see what else I can discover during my next visit later this month.

The Sabang GF does 'the business' with me during daylight hours and works in a non-girly bar at night, so I'll see if I'm prepared to forgo some daylight fun to explore the local landscape when I return.

_ Phil.

Looks like you have found the unicorn. Those to Pau de Acucar definitely gives out some serious ray of hope.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2953019]Butuan IV.

The coast is clear so I bus back to Butuan unannounced only to find that DD's is leaving to go to the province for the weekend. Does she want to come over tonight? Sure. But she has to be on the 9 pm bus. It's already 7 so I reply thanks but I'm not in to quickies. Arrive, pump and run does nothing for me. When exactly am I leaving Butuan? Monday. Why? She's won't be back until Monday and can I stay until after that? I guess I could if she makes it worthwhile for me to change my plans? She asks if all day and night with these is worth extending for??

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I cancel the Monday departure and extend the hotel stay.

I had been chatting with, and had a dinner as ground work for, another prospect. This one is totally out of my normal target group. 28, single, no kids, a meaningful degree and impressive work history. Has a very real job in the corporate world. Excellent English and a sensible head on her shoulders. She clearly has some bucks behind her. Just organising dinner was a minefield competing with work commitments and being dog tired after a big day at the office. The second dinner at a nice restaurant goes well. She orders a light meal rather than the most expensive steak or food for 18. She's dressed modestly but can't hide some nice cans. Conversation is flowing. We make each other laugh. Tonight might be the night. Then "have you had dinner with any other girls in Butuan". Just one, I lie. I'm such a fucking idiot: Instant shut down and lock out. Talk about a rookie mistake. I'm sent straight to the Friend Zone. The conversation is still polite. She is still talkative but the tone has changed noticeably. She's now too tired to go find a follow on coffee. Does she want to come back to my place is met with a curt no. I've totally fucked up this one. It's a shame as she is great company and I definitely want to see more of her, both clothed and unclothed. Idiot!!

The next couple of days are a jumble of false starts and trying resurect Corporate Girl. I basically decide on the direct approach and just lay the cards on the table: I enjoy her company but I'm too old for playing Friend Zone games forever. Turns out there are three problems: she's not getting caught going into a 1000 peso hotel for an hour with a foreigner; she's not going to jump into bed with someone after two dates and; she's not going to be a home wrecker or 'the other woman'. Problems 1 & 2 are easily fixed: a night at a Airbnb away from prying eyes; we sleep together and I stop when ever she feels uncomfortable. Problem 3 is a non event because I make it perfectly clear that I'm not looking for a girlfriend and promise this will not be an ongoing affair. She's ok with these so everything is booked for two days later.

I've got a day to wait for the AirBnB and the flood gates open. Some are flakes but some pan out.

Virgin girl messages out of the blue. She's at home doing nothing and her 'bleeding' has stopped. I don't ask or expand on exactly what the bleeding was. A few more chats then: want to come over again? And. Silence. 🤦.

A couple of other girls similarly fade away, busy with work or some other excuse.

Another who came over earlier in the trip doesn't hate me any more. She's also doing nothing at home, with no classes today. I promise the usual deal: two unrushed pops for 1 k. 20 minutes later she knocking on the door. She's not the prettiest but she puts in the effort. 3 full and one aborted pops and a fair attempt at anal later, I'm spent and exhausted. WhatsApp buzzes that another girl is on the way so I reply that I'm out but will call when I'm back in the room. Girlie gets a raise to 1500 for the extra effort and I say it's time for her to leave 'becaise I'm tired'. She actually questioned why I paid her extra.

The girl who brought me the meds a couple of weeks back called earlier and said she wants to meet up before I go. She'll drop around later after lunch. By 3 pm I thought she was a no show so I told the girl above to drop around. As always, she messages that she's on the way at the most inopportune time. One girl goes as one is arriving. Luckily, this is one of those girls who can get blood from a stone. Again, not the prettiest but she delivers in an emergency. An A-grade BBBJ certainly helps. I manage (or she drags out of me) one pop and a fakie. She wants to go eat / buy some lotion / insert random funding request. I have no interest in a shopping trip so beg off saying that I'll just give her the money and she can get what ever she wants. I over pay 2 k for going above and beyond and everyone is happy.

I was worried that DDs is due back today and wants to come over to express her thanks for staying until she returned from the province. There is no way I can muster up the energy to preform for the 24 HR thank you session that she promised. Early evening she messages me. She's back in Butuan but, thankfully, she's got a fever. Is it a fever, a boyfriend, mom's gone nuts, who knows?? But it saves my bacon and she promises to defer to another day before I leave. I'm rapidly running out of days but this will be a priority.[/QUOTE]

G.

I was going through your Mindanao Sexpedition, pretty fascinating to see your action. Bravo!

On a side note, I live for big boobs, should send to my way, LOL.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950999]You know the crazy thing? I don't even like big tits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2959570]G.

I was going through your Mindanao Sexpedition, pretty fascinating to see your action. Bravo!

On a side note, I live for big boobs, should send to my way, LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

Join the queue. 😜.

Unfortunately I don't give out contact details but big tits are very common in Mindanao. For a first visit, I'd start in Davao and go from there.

Enjoy. G.

Thanks for the tip on Mindanao G. I'm mostly checking Davao and surrounding areas. Any other places that I should look into?

How many more on the Que ahead of me, LMAO. It was more of a figurative expression instead of asking for contact. I prefer to hunt my own meat, LOL.

After our last conversation I had managed to find one form Iligan but ended up losing her to an old man with cylinder, LOL. It's on my Manila trip report which kinda ended in Disaster but it is what it is.

I was telling myself never again to Philippines but here I am, searching and reading and radiating, LOL. Not sure what's wrong with me.

Quite question G, Besides Pina Love and FnF, any other sources that I should explore? I don't do GoGo or Bar girls anymore.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2959644]Thanks.

Join the queue. 😜.

Unfortunately I don't give out contact details but big tits are very common in Mindanao. For a first visit, I'd start in Davao and go from there..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2959723]Thanks for the tip on Mindanao G. I'm mostly checking Davao and surrounding areas. Any other places that I should look into?

How many more on the Que ahead of me?

After our last conversation I had managed to find one form Iligan

I was telling myself never again to Philippines but here I am, searching and reading and radiating, LOL. Not sure what's wrong with me.

Quite question G, Besides Pina Love and FnF, any other sources that I should explore? I don't do GoGo or Bar girls anymore.[/QUOTE]Davao is definitely the best place to start as it's the largest city, has the most girls, is the safest and its easy to find ones way around. Stay Downtown near Peoples Park so that it's easy for the girls to find you and there is lots for you to see and do during off times. I'm yet to go but many speak highly of Gensan girls so it's on my radar for next trip.

The queue is long enough that I actually asked her if I can give her number to some friends who like big tits. The answer was a hard no. Apparently she loves only me and is waiting at home with her legs crossed for the day that I return. We all know the real story but it sounds good.

Just be a little cautious how far south west you do go. Research the safe and unsafe areas as there are some areas that should be avoided.

Famous last words: last time to go to the Philippines.

Last trip I was 100% pinalove. Filipino Cupid is slightly more up market and has better search options. Don't rule out starting a conversation in a mall or walking around. Girls are amazingly approachable but may need some ground work before doing the deed. If you are there long enough, a friend's and family program works wonders.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2959739]Davao is definitely the best place to start as it's the largest city, has the most girls, is the safest and its easy to find ones way around. Stay Downtown near Peoples Park so that it's easy for the girls to find you and there is lots for you to see and do during off times. I'm yet to go but many speak highly of Gensan girls so it's on my radar for next trip.

The queue is long enough that I actually asked her if I can give her number to some friends who like big tits. The answer was a hard no. Apparently she loves only me and is waiting at home with her legs crossed for the day that I return. We all know the real story but it sounds good.

Just be a little cautious how far south west you do go. Research the safe and unsafe areas as there are some areas that should be avoided.

Famous last words: last time to go to the Philippines.

Last trip I was 100% pinalove. Filipino Cupid is slightly more up market and has better search options. Don't rule out starting a conversation in a mall or walking around. Girls are amazingly approachable but may need some ground work before doing the deed. If you are there long enough, a friend's and family program works wonders.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]In my experience, the Philippines is quite safe if you are with a trusted local and if you use your head. First rule is mind your own business. If you see something you shouldn't, leave. Go somewhere else for a while. Stay with your girl. And not one you met online two days ago. Meet in the city, spend some time, then go exploring in the province with her. If you do the above, and use common sense, the worst you should encounter is petty theft.

Mindanao was home to a Muslim insurgency for a long time, but that has been over for quite a while. The NPA insurgency is ongoing in many provincial areas. And not just in Mindanao. Locals know what is going on. Listen to them. My partner and I had planned on going to Lake Holon, but we got word NPA was camped out and the Philippine army was going after them. We stayed away, and there was a big firefight the next day. That being said, in south Luzon, I've had encounters with NPA waayyyy out in the province where my wife is from. It is a real concern, but stay near the smaller cities and you will be okay.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2959768]In my experience, the Philippines is quite safe if you are with a trusted local and if you use your head....[/QUOTE]I'd agree. When things go bad there is always a backstory: jealous husband; greedy relatives; slighted business partners; lots of others.

Keep a sensible head and anyone can have a lot of fun and meet many many kind people.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2959883]I'd agree. When things go bad there is always a backstory: jealous husband; greedy relatives; slighted business partners; lots of others.

Keep a sensible head and anyone can have a lot of fun and meet many many kind people.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I did get out of some possible sticky situations a few times.

I remember one time in my travels I met a girl on a deserted beach, we talked, we ate in a local carinderia, took her to a makeshift karaoke joint, and we ended up in my room in a bungalow that I was renting. Beautiful girl, lovely, killer body, and she came back next day for a repeat, no money involved, on the third day we texted, then called, and she said that I have to go to the next village where she was living to pick her up because she doesn't have any means of transportation, while she was trying to explain where I have to meet her, I heard 2 male voices in the background giving her instructions in tagalog (I didn't understood), I didn't say nothing, and I played along, but I told her that I will go only the next day because there was something wrong with my motorbike, and is getting fixed, and it may not be done until late. Maybe was some sort of trap, maybe not, but I didn't take any chances, I packed my backpack and took the last bus out of town. Anyway my stay there was long enough, and nothing else happened beside this beautiful encounter, which I wish would have lasted a few weeks longer, but I remembered that I was alone in the middle of nowhere, yes my friends back home knew where I was, but what can they do anyway, from thousands of miles away if I go dark?

Another time in AC I BF a beautiful girl from one of the perimeter bars 8-9, looked like the singer Sade, we agreed on LT, she was ok, not spectacular in bed. Later in the evening we ate something in the korean restaurant across from Paradise. She subjected me to the standard interrogation, and something from my answers did lit up a bulb in her head, she started texting someone, then a phone call, with a male voice at the other end, I asked who, and she said that it was her husband, but no problem he knows what she's doing. After going back to the room, I was staying in Royal Amsterdam, she fucked my brains out, like a wild beast, and made sure that I CIP, soon after another phone call to he husband, reporting that the deed was done, both sounded very happy. At this moment a child support scam scenario started to assemble in my head, and I started to give out more personal info than necessary, but leading in the wrong direction. I never keep them overnight, even if I pay LT, so I let her go, with the promise that I will go BF her next day also, and I will take her shopping, then back to the hotel. Of course I didn't set foot in any of the perimeter bars for a long time, and if she came back to the hotel asking for the name I gave her was non existing. Again, I don't know if I have a vivid imagination, or was real, the feeling about what was going on, but, better be safe than sorry.

I have many more stories like these taking place in different countries. I did take many much more stupid risks in my life, and I never landed in any real trouble, but sometimes, I just go with the gut feeling, and avoid what may become a bad situation.

[QUOTE=GuyReynolds;2798356]Sorry for the delay in answering, haven't been there yet but planning a trip there this year. Wanted to get some info to make things easier and not waste time trying to figure stuff out once there.[/QUOTE]I just saw your message about Bacolod, did you ended up going there?

I stayed there many months during COVID (2020 to 2023), I loved Bacolod! After Cebu City and Boracay, Bacolod is third on my list of cities to retired in Philippines, I know alot of expats like Duma better but for me Bacolod is better, less foreigners so is more easier to hook-up with regular Filipinas, dating apps doesn't help much compared to other cities, but I still hook-up with some girls from Pinalove, FilipinoCupid and Tinder. In Bacolod is better to meet girls in the street, like in bars / nightclubs: MO2 Ice Bar, Cista, La Jefa, MO2 Wave, the bars around Lacson Street, or in the malls SM Bacolod, Ayala, and Robinson, even in the Plaza or the big church (Cathedral) you can meet girls, also you can meet callcenter girls in the Lagoon or in NGC (New Government Center), you can bring your dates in Marketplace (beside NGC) where there are alot of bars with live bands and karaoke, it gets busy at night time. In Goldenfields, there are a couple of girly bars but I can not say if they are good or not since I never went inside (girly bars is not my thing), but there are 2-3 nice normal bars there, my favourite one close down after COVID, the other one (Chicken Alley) has live bands and is nice to chillout with friends and dates. Goldenfields is popular for short hotels, also another short hotel in Alijis close to Goldenfields, another one close to the Lagoon, and another one in Bata. Those 4 short hotels were my favourite ones for 2-3 hours I think they were 300 php back then. Like I said you can easily meet girls in all those places I mention, or you can meet them for your first date. The 3 nightclubs I mention: MO2 Ice Bar, Cista and La Jefa, lots of young crowd, like late teens and early 20's, specially in Cista. Is possible to meet young girls and hookup with them (just make sure they are 18+), you just need to join their group because the girls there are mostly in groups of friends, I mostly got their number and hookup another day, only once I hookup the night I met them and party with them, their friends are very protective so they won't let you take them to your place when they are drunk and young.

I really miss Bacolod, but I doubt I will go back there any time soon since I'm not planning to go back to Philippines for another 2-3 years.

P.S. Another way to meet girls is by becoming friends on Facebook and start adding their friends and start chatting with them, try to have 2 accounts so your friend won't notice that you are chatting with her friends and she won't get jealous or mention that you already hookup, remember, the hotter the girl is the hotter her friends will be.

Hi Guys,

Just letting you know I'll be back in Sabang in about a week.

I'll be spending most of my time with my local contact.

She used to work as a Mama but now works as a waitress in a non-gogo bar.

I'm sure she'll be able to share some tips on the best bars happening there at the moment.

I'll share whatever info I can _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2961088]Hi Guys,

Just letting you know I'll be back in Sabang in about a week.

I'll be spending most of my time with my local contact.

She used to work as a Mama but now works as a waitress in a non-gogo bar.

I'm sure she'll be able to share some tips on the best bars happening there at the moment.

I'll share whatever info I can _ Phil.[/QUOTE]There was a German bar manager who took over decrepit bars and transformed them. He ran a tight ship, had his shit together and his bars were always a fun night. A little K focused but whites were still welcome and many girls would still show us a good time. He rebuilt the old Vegas into Midnight and the upstairs disco into Quantum. I fell madly in love with several of his pole dancers. When I stopped going (years ago) there was talk of him taking over a third bar. ID be interested to hear if this happened and how his bars are going now.

Unfortunately, the other old bars couldn't compete for atmosphere. They hadn't seen a coat of paint in maybe 20 years and aircons barely worked if at all.

Sabang's saving grace always was that the bar fine was half down (paid at the bar) and half paid in the morning. This prevented runners and the number of repeat visitors meant that girls were keen to keep repeat business. I understand that the girls attitudes may have dropped off a little but hopefully the half down is still in place.

Strangely enough, some of the wildest nights were when the bar doors were shut. Coco Lips often held private parties which were invite only. When the doors were locked the girls were free to really let their hair down and some of those nights were legendary.

Enjoy. I had many great nights and memories in Sabang.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2961691]There was a German bar manager who took over decrepit bars and transformed them. He ran a tight ship, had his shit together and his bars were always a fun night. A little K focused but whites were still welcome and many girls would still show us a good time. He rebuilt the old Vegas into Midnight and the upstairs disco into Quantum. I fell madly in love with several of his pole dancers. When I stopped going (years ago) there was talk of him taking over a third bar. ID be interested to hear if this happened and how his bars are going now.

Unfortunately, the other old bars couldn't compete for atmosphere. They hadn't seen a coat of paint in maybe 20 years and aircons barely worked if at all.

Sabang's saving grace always was that the bar fine was half down (paid at the bar) and half paid in the morning. This prevented runners and the number of repeat visitors meant that girls were keen to keep repeat business. I understand that the girls attitudes may have dropped off a little but hopefully the half down is still in place.

Strangely enough, some of the wildest nights were when the bar doors were shut. Coco Lips often held private parties which were invite only. When the doors were locked the girls were free to really let their hair down and some of those nights were legendary.Enjoy. I had many great nights and memories in Sabang.

G.[/QUOTE]Hi G,

I'll see what 'intelligence' I can can up with.

I've been previously told by the locals that most of the gogos change hands frequently or have been snapped up by the Koreans.

(There's a new Korean restaurant / business popping up every time I return).

I'll try and sneak the Sabang GF into a few clubs, if and when, she gets a night off work from her normal bar duties. We see each other through the day.

As mentioned previously and for the benefit of new members, I line up my talent by avoiding the whole gogo scene and compensate the girls accordingly. At less than half the price.

IE: Avoiding bar fines, lady drinks etc.

The only way to go as an experienced visitor.

_ Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2961860]

I'll try and sneak the Sabang GF into a few clubs, if and when, she gets a night off work from her normal bar duties. We see each other through the day.[/QUOTE]Tread carefully. Girlfriends are welcome in Sabang bars. (I could tell several stories of couples barfining girls only for hubby to be locked out when they returned back to the room). However, if she is an ex worker, check that she left on good terms with no unpaid debts etc. The bars there have a 'bar out' fee where a girl's suitor has to pay for her to permanently leave the bar. If this is not paid, then she becomes a persona non grata and isn't welcome anywhere.

No need to be paranoid but if she's reluctant to go into the bars, I wouldn't push the matter.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2961933]Tread carefully. Girlfriends are welcome in Sabang bars. (I could tell several stories of couples barfining girls only for hubby to be locked out when they returned back to the room). However, if she is an ex worker, check that she left on good terms with no unpaid debts etc. The bars there have a 'bar out' fee where a girl's suitor has to pay for her to permanently leave the bar. If this is not paid, then she becomes a persona non grata and isn't welcome anywhere.

No need to be paranoid but if she's reluctant to go into the bars, I wouldn't push the matter.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]You have all this down to a tee. I loo forward to buying your bestseller.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2961975]You have all this down to a tee. I loo forward to buying your bestseller.[/QUOTE]Thanks. All jokes aside, if you're looking for a good read about life as a monger expat search for the 'Hardship Posting' series. From memory, three of four volumes of hilarious short stories that no Joe Q Citizen back home would ever believe could happen.

They are pretty old now but likely still available on Amazon.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2961933]Tread carefully. Girlfriends are welcome in Sabang bars. (I could tell several stories of couples barfining girls only for hubby to be locked out when they returned back to the room). However, if she is an ex worker, check that she left on good terms with no unpaid debts etc. The bars there have a 'bar out' fee where a girl's suitor has to pay for her to permanently leave the bar. If this is not paid, then she becomes a persona non grata and isn't welcome anywhere.

No need to be paranoid but if she's reluctant to go into the bars, I wouldn't push the matter.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]No need to worry G.

The GF knows the ropes. She's a mature local (everyone knows her) and has worked at many bars as a mama in the past.

And if I did visit the bars with her, it would only be for research purposes.

In addition to being an amazing horizontal performer, she's a great source of knowledge when it comes to the local bar scene.

In a relatively small stretch of bars along a little alley in Sabang, everyone involved in making money have their eyes wide open.

I'll do my best to share further info when I return next week.

_ Phil.

Hi guys.

Hoping some of you seasoned Ph vets can assist. I've never been to Ph but am hoping to get there in January.

My background is that I'm married and have no legitimate business in Ph. I'll be in India on business and then hope to fly to Ph. Because of my marital status I need a cover story wherever I go or I'll get endless questions.

As a result it's very difficult to just stay in Manila for a week because wife knows I get bored of virtually any city within 48 hours. However if there is sea, snorkeling, diving or something else worth seeing I can use that as cover for mongering. Somewhere like AC is completely out because there is absolutely nothing else to do there other than monger.

So I'm looking for suggestions for places that have a nice beach, water based activities etc (or something else touristy) AND decent mongering options.

Just to make things a bit more complicated the Mrs knows that I wouldn't normally stay anywhere other than a 5 star hotel, so if I'm suddenly staying in a three star out in the wilderness somewhere she'll know something is up (hope this doesn't come across as snobbish, its not how it was meant).

I'm happy to take a flight from Manila to anywhere in Ph. In terms of girls I'm not a 9 or 10 hunter. I much prefer a 6 who gives good GFE and I like chubby girls and milfs LOL.

Any guidance greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2962371]As a result it's very difficult to just stay in Manila for a week because wife knows I get bored of virtually any city within 48 hours. However if there is sea, snorkeling, diving or something else worth seeing I can use that as cover for mongering. Somewhere like AC is completely out because there is absolutely nothing else to do there other than monger.

So I'm looking for suggestions for places that have a nice beach, water based activities etc (or something else touristy) AND decent mongering options.

Just to make things a bit more complicated the Mrs knows that I wouldn't normally stay anywhere other than a 5 star hotel, so if I'm suddenly staying in a three star out in the wilderness somewhere she'll know something is up (hope this doesn't come across as snobbish, its not how it was meant)...[/QUOTE]If girls are the priority you have Sabang and Cebu. Both have some very nice accommodation options and girls on tap. For Cebu you want to stay in town, near Ayala, so that the girls can find you, rather than one of the remote resorts. For Sabang, _Phil has given detailed transport methods or any good hotel will provide door to door transport options. Note that the diving is great there but snorkeling is very limited and Jan has the coldest water temps.

Dumaguete is another option. It has great day and boat trips so you will get some very plausible pics and IG posts for back home. You can even stay on the water front at Dauin. Girls are available but it's more work than the other two due to the number of foreigners in town.

Sabang has a very active bar scene. Cebu is the online dating capital of the Philippines with literally '00's of girls online at any one time. Duma has WhyNot bar and a small online scene. In all cases I probably wouldn't fall in love in Manila and BYO. I'm not aware of any having outcall escort options like you were asking about Manila Courtesans.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2962371]Hi guys.

Hoping some of you seasoned Ph vets can assist. I've never been to Ph but am hoping to get there in January.

My background is that I'm married and have no legitimate business in Ph. I'll be in India on business and then hope to fly to Ph. Because of my marital status I need a cover story wherever I go or I'll get endless questions.

As a result it's very difficult to just stay in Manila for a week because wife knows I get bored of virtually any city within 48 hours. However if there is sea, snorkeling, diving or something else worth seeing I can use that as cover for mongering. Somewhere like AC is completely out because there is absolutely nothing else to do there other than monger.

So I'm looking for suggestions for places that have a nice beach, water based activities etc (or something else touristy) AND decent mongering options.

Just to make things a bit more complicated the Mrs knows that I wouldn't normally stay anywhere other than a 5 star hotel, so if I'm suddenly staying in a three star out in the wilderness somewhere she'll know something is up (hope this doesn't come across as snobbish, its not how it was meant).

I'm happy to take a flight from Manila to anywhere in Ph. In terms of girls I'm not a 9 or 10 hunter. I much prefer a 6 who gives good GFE and I like chubby girls and milfs LOL.

Any guidance greatly appreciated.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]To put it in simple words: something like that doesn't exist in the Philippines.

Sabang or Subic are the only two places that have water and mongering, but don't expect Caribbean blue, or more than a 2 stars look for the hotel.

Since you mentioned that you're staying in 5 stars accommodations usually, that means that you have extra funds available to play around a bit, make it so that your international flight lands in AC, and you have to stay there overnight as a layover, do not forget to mention to your wife how pissed off you are for this inconvenience.

Get a girl or two, test them out, Barfine them for a few days give them some money for the babysitters in case it's need, and take them to Boracay. Problem solved, Nice beach, five-star hotel, and mongering. You'll just have to move really fast because of the plane tickets for the girls, also make sure they have national IDs that are accepted for flying. Alternatively, you can do the same thing in Manila, but it's going to cost you a lot more and Manila girls are a little bit more tricky.

Wow, thanks for the great responses guys, I was expecting to be told to piss of and RTFF LOL.

Lots of suggestions for me to read up about. I'll do that before I ask anymore questions.

Thanks again, really appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2962412]Wow, thanks for the great responses guys, I was expecting to be told to piss of and RTFF LOL.

Lots of suggestions for me to read up about. I'll do that before I ask anymore questions.

Thanks again, really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Thinking outside the box, why not combine Ugly and my suggestions and get a tour guide++. 48 hours in Manila would be plenty of time to road test a few then suggest a trip out of town to whomever you mesh the best with. You could then agree on exactly what extra services can be provided. It's best to do this after selection. Don't offer a week in Boracay upfront lest she be on her best behaviour just to win the prize.

Others may differ but I'm not a fan of travelling with hookers: don't expect conversation to be a strong suit so what are you going to do for the other 22 hours of the day and; you will be in your own as no other civilians in bars, on dive boats etc will want to talk to you with a hooker at the table.

[URL]https://www.showaround.com/locals/ann-manila-philippines-9885624[/URL]

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2962392]If girls are the priority you have Sabang and Cebu. Both have some very nice accommodation options and girls on tap. For Cebu you want to stay in town, near Ayala, so that the girls can find you, rather than one of the remote resorts. For Sabang, _Phil has given detailed transport methods or any good hotel will provide door to door transport options. Note that the diving is great there but snorkeling is very limited and Jan has the coldest water temps.

Dumaguete is another option. It has great day and boat trips so you will get some very plausible pics and IG posts for back home. You can even stay on the water front at Dauin. Girls are available but it's more work than the other two due to the number of foreigners in town.

Sabang has a very active bar scene. Cebu is the online dating capital of the Philippines with literally '00's of girls online at any one time. Duma has WhyNot bar and a small online scene. In all cases I probably wouldn't fall in love in Manila and BYO. I'm not aware of any having outcall escort options like you were asking about Manila Courtesans.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

Sabang looks great and excellent cover story as Palawan is the sort of place I would have headed with family as well, however having done a quick search there doesn't seem to be any major hotels there, it's all guest house type set ups and 2/3 stars. Or did you mean stay somewhere else in a nice hotel on Palawan and travel into Sabang for the girls?

Cebu seems a good one as well and I had already been looking into it.

Where to stay is the confusing part. You've mentioned Ayala and there are also good hotels in Cebu City I think but my wife knows that I would always head to beachside type hotels if I had the choice.

There's a strip of hotels (as per the pic attached) on / close to beach that are the right kind. Do you think I could stay there and still be involved in the Cebu scene? I'd like to check out the bar scene (assuming there is one) if possible.

How about somewhere like Boracay? This would be excellent cover story. I've been googling and getting the impression that there is a P4 P bar scene and FLs but would need some decent feedback before I commit.

Re; tour guide ++. This did cross my mind as well but I can't be sure that any of those girls would provide services. I'm sure they probably would if the benefits offered were good enough but I don't want to play games and have to try and seduce someone. I'll only be in Ph for max 7 days, I don't want to waste a couple of days of that trying to figure out if the girl will sleep with me.

Thanks for all your help, really appreciate it.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2962395]To put it in simple words: something like that doesn't exist in the Philippines.

Sabang or Subic are the only two places that have water and mongering, but don't expect Caribbean blue, or more than a 2 stars look for the hotel.

Since you mentioned that you're staying in 5 stars accommodations usually, that means that you have extra funds available to play around a bit, make it so that your international flight lands in AC, and you have to stay there overnight as a layover, do not forget to mention to your wife how pissed off you are for this inconvenience.

Get a girl or two, test them out, Barfine them for a few days give them some money for the babysitters in case it's need, and take them to Boracay. Problem solved, Nice beach, five-star hotel, and mongering. You'll just have to move really fast because of the plane tickets for the girls, also make sure they have national IDs that are accepted for flying. Alternatively, you can do the same thing in Manila, but it's going to cost you a lot more and Manila girls are a little bit more tricky.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

Finding a hot girl that I gel with in Manila / AC and then flying her to Boracay for a week of fantastic sex, sea and sand is the dream!

However I suspect the reality will be very different. I'm there for maximum 7 days, it could be short as 5. Getting all that sorted in such a short space of time will be very difficult and probably stressful.

I once did something like that in another country and because I rushed the decision (again due to short stay) I picked the wrong girl and had an absolutely awful time. A very expensive awful time.

If I were there for a minimum of two weeks I would definitely try what you're suggesting.

If at all possible I'd like to spend 24/48 hrs in Manila mongering and then the remainder somewhere else where I can just pick up P4 P that I like. If I gel with any in the second location I can always ask them to join me in my hotel for a few days.

Thank you very much for helping.

Say your company needed you to look into possibly opening an office or meet with a prospective client in Manila. Grab a random guy and tell him you need some pictures of you two together to show your wife. Most guys will happily do that for you. Say it did not work out and too expensive to get a last minute return ticket so decided to relax at a beach because you met an expat who took you to Boracay. You need some preapproval stuff to get on the island. Explain Manila is ugly and no way you were going to spend a week there when one of the top 10 beaches on the planet is right next door. Boracay has a freelancer scene. Just walk down the path after 8 pm. Should be around 9 girls available. If you are staying at 3+ star hotels and depending on how much you are paying that number of girls just doubled or tripled because they have friends. Just say sorry you are not my type. I will pay you a finders fee. I am looking for X, why, and Z. The ladyboys will approach you and the girls will be behind them. Station 2 on the walking path. Also, just ask guys working at the hotels or e-trike drivers on the main road. Girls from Manila and other areas come here to hunt. Do not be shy. Ask the girls working at the hotels and bars for their friends to play with. They always have a friendly friend to play with. But this requires you giving out your phone number or Facebook. Some have Whatsapp now. Taking a girl there I believe would be a pain in the at # Go to the discos and ask the guys working there. That is a 100% slam dunk to find pay for play girls. You do not have to take the girls they point out. Just use those girls to give your their hotter younger friends and give them a tip for their assistance.

If you go to somewhere like Subic just take some pictures outside their zoo, zipline, or the dolphin-seal enclosure in the background and leave. Many girlie bars but beaches suck. Hard sell to the wife why you went there.

Sabang has girlie bars and freelancers that come and go depending on when the police run them off. Not a damn thing to do there unless you Scuba dive. Not recommended for your situation because hard sell to your wife and even your friends at that location.

Bohol, Siquijor, Palawan, and Camiguin or good bets too. There is no freelancer scene or bar scene here. If you have money you can find. Just ask any hotel or bar employees or trike drivers to give you a contact and give them a tip.

If your wife thinks you were going to cheat on her then explain that big cities like Manila have tons of working girls while beaches do not.

Your answer is Boracay. Take a few pictures of the white sugar sand, baby blue water, and the sunset and she will understand why why why.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2962518]Thank you.

Sabang looks great and excellent cover story as Palawan is the sort of place I would have headed with family as well, however having done a quick search there doesn't seem to be any major hotels there, it's all guest house type set ups and 2/3 stars. Or did you mean stay somewhere else in a nice hotel on Palawan and travel into Sabang for the girls?

Cebu seems a good one as well and I had already been looking into it.

Where to stay is the confusing part. You've mentioned Ayala and there are also good hotels in Cebu City I think but my wife knows that I would always head to beachside type hotels if I had the choice.

There's a strip of hotels (as per the pic attached) on / close to beach that are the right kind. Do you think I could stay there and still be involved in the Cebu scene? I'd like to check out the bar scene (assuming there is one) if possible.

How about somewhere like Boracay? This would be excellent cover story. I've been googling and getting the impression that there is a P4 P bar scene and FLs but would need some decent feedback before I commit.

Re; tour guide ++. This did cross my mind as well but I can't be sure that any of those girls would provide services. I'm sure they probably would if the benefits offered were good enough but I don't want to play games and have to try and seduce someone. I'll only be in Ph for max 7 days, I don't want to waste a couple of days of that trying to figure out if the girl will sleep with me.

Thanks for all your help, really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]That's the wrong Sabang. Everyone is recommending Sabang on Mindoro not Palawan. It's about 2 hours south of Manila. There are no hotel chains but does have some nice accommodation and girls on tap. Definitely no need to BYO girl.

The Shangrila is a very nice place but it and the other Mactan Hotels are probably 2+ hours from Ayala and where most of the girls are. There are some small bars etc nearby but you will have to search for them and they aren't exactly point and shoot, newbie friendly. Much better to stay in Cebu city itself and do day tours out.

Boracay is the best cover story. You have the choice of byo if you find the right girl in Manila or try your luck with freelancers in town.

No need to play games with prospective tour guides. Just ask them. No need to be insulting but it won't be the first time that they will have been asked about hotel or sleeping arrangements. This is especially true for any that have bikini shots and tits out photo angles in their profiles. It wouldn't be too hard to organise a few test tours around Manila in your first 48 hours and then make a choice.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2962526]Say your company needed you to look into possibly opening an office or meet with a prospective client in Manila. Grab a random guy and tell him you need some pictures of you two together to show your wife. Most guys will happily do that for you. Say it did not work out and too expensive to get a last minute return ticket so decided to relax at a beach because you met an expat who took you to Boracay. You need some preapproval stuff to get on the island. Explain Manila is ugly and no way you were going to spend a week there when one of the top 10 beaches on the planet is right next door. Boracay has a freelancer scene. Just walk down the path after 8 pm. Should be around 9 girls available. If you are staying at 3+ star hotels and depending on how much you are paying that number of girls just doubled or tripled because they have friends. Just say sorry you are not my type. I will pay you a finders fee. I am looking for X, why, and Z. The ladyboys will approach you and the girls will be behind them. Station 2 on the walking path. Also, just ask guys working at the hotels or e-trike drivers on the main road. Girls from Manila and other areas come here to hunt. Do not be shy. Ask the girls working at the hotels and bars for their friends to play with. They always have a friendly friend to play with. But this requires you giving out your phone number or Facebook. Some have Whatsapp now. Taking a girl there I believe would be a pain in the at # Go to the discos and ask the guys working there. That is a 100% slam dunk to find pay for play girls. You do not have to take the girls they point out. Just use those girls to give your their hotter younger friends and give them a tip for their assistance.

If you go to somewhere like Subic just take some pictures outside their zoo, zipline, or the dolphin-seal enclosure in the background and leave. Many girlie bars but beaches suck. Hard sell to the wife why you went there.

Sabang has girlie bars and freelancers that come and go depending on when the police run them off. Not a damn thing to do there unless you Scuba dive. Not recommended for your situation because hard sell to your wife and even your friends at that location..[/QUOTE]Thank you my friend!

The office thing in Manila won't work for me because of the nature of my work, but I will bank that excellent idea for another location where it would work.

But getting to Boracay shouldn't be a problem. My legitimate business in India has been engineered to conclude quickly and I will then say I fancy doing some diving somewhere nice as I'm already halfway across the world. As Boracay is a renowned dive destination and I've been a keen diver for many years its actually the perfect cover.

Once in Boracay I may not even actually dive. It's quite hard work being up half the night drinking / partying and then diving all day. At my age anyway. But I'll find an excuse for that, that's not a problem.

May I ask, in terms of Boracay are you speaking from experience? Have you mongered there yourself?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2962544]That's the wrong Sabang. Everyone is recommending Sabang on Mindoro not Palawan. It's about 2 hours south of Manila. There are no hotel chains but does have some nice accommodation and girls on tap. Definitely no need to BYO girl.

The Shangrila is a very nice place but it and the other Mactan Hotels are probably 2+ hours from Ayala and where most of the girls are. There are some small bars etc nearby but you will have to search for them and they aren't exactly point and shoot, newbie friendly. Much better to stay in Cebu city itself and do day tours out.

Boracay is the best cover story. You have the choice of byo if you find the right girl in Manila or try your luck with freelancers in town.

No need to play games with prospective tour guides. Just ask them. No need to be insulting but it won't be the first time that they will have been asked about hotel or sleeping arrangements. This is especially true for any that have bikini shots and tits out photo angles in their profiles. It wouldn't be too hard to organise a few test tours around Manila in your first 48 hours and then make a choice.

Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

The Cebu thing won't work then unfortunately. Family knows that I would never spend a week in a city centre if there were beaches / sea etc a couple of hours away.

I'll look up the proper Sabang but going by what you and LoveItHere69 have said its looking like Boracay is the answer to my problem!

Thanks again for all your help.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2962412]Wow, thanks for the great responses guys, I was expecting to be told to piss of and RTFF LOL.

Lots of suggestions for me to read up about. I'll do that before I ask anymore questions.

Thanks again, really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Hi Alex _ G and Ugly have offered some excellent suggestions.

For a really decent beachside location, Boracay can be worth it with Ugly's input at scoring freelancers. I had no trouble at all and didn't have to BYO.

Having said that, in March next year I'm taking a friend there for a week who has never travelled from Mindoro apart from a trip to Manila. She's just shit scared of flying for the first time, but we'll get over that with some Tanduay.

Sabang has worked for me. It's an easy trip from Manila and if you go around to Big Laguna beach (a quick 20 minute walk) you'll be able to get some vacation pics to send back to the Mrs. I just have quite a few contacts there now and I've never been one for the bar scene when you can meet locals and compensate them accordingly.

But that takes time to establish.

I just prefer it to Angeles and Manila as it's in a good location with water views and it's not a shit hole.

There will be no five star hotel options by a decent beach in the Phils generaly, but you'll have a good time if you're prepared to find it. And if you're on a five star budget, you'll have no trouble grabbing a hottie out of one of the girly bars in the alley.

Then there's always AI technology these days that can place you in an environment that's wife friendly for pics.

(Not that I have a wife).

Just my experience, Phil.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2962596]May I ask, in terms of Boracay are you speaking from experience? Have you mongered there yourself?[/QUOTE]I went 10 years and 6 years ago. But am sure nothing has changed. At most the girls moved a 5 minute walk from their old location along the beach path. Even back then several guys said there were no girls available but there they were each time I went. I never do the online scene but I would check that out just for starters. Someone before stated this: In decreasing order of girl quality it's Instagram, Tinder, Filipino Cupid, DIA, PinaLove. Simply ask the e-trike guys and the guys working the disco and guys and gals working bars and hotels.

For a comparison earlier this month I was in the city of Bangued in the province of ABRA in the north of Luzon Island. I found a bar and some freelancers by asking the guy that owned the house I was renting a room with bathroom in. If I can find sex there you sure as hell can it in Boracay. The nicer hotel you stay at and the more money you are willing to spend the more girls you have available. I prefer this because if I like the girl I can spend every day with her and send her home for half the day when I need a break for alone time. If not keep finding another one. It will be cheaper than bringing your own and so many flake at the last minute.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bangued[/URL]

I have mongered in many cities in the past. Asking certain people (trike, hotel, disco) for sexual contacts is as common and normal as asking if they have baby formula at a drug store or eggs at a grocery store. They may offer you an ugly girl. Just say "Not what I am looking for or not my type. Do you have any friends available that look like XYZ? Once you get started it is like dominoes. You will be sad to see all the girls that come out of the woodwork once they know you. And that will be right when you have to leave. That is when the sexiest one of them all appears but you have no time left. Small warning. The girl you are with for one night will usually not give you to her friends because she will want you to take her every night and not share you.

Do not be shy!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2962614]I went 10 years and 6 years ago. But am sure nothing has changed. At most the girls moved a 5 minute walk from their old location along the beach path. Even back then several guys said there were no girls available but there they were each time I went. I never do the online scene but I would check that out just for starters. Someone before stated this: In decreasing order of girl quality it's Instagram, Tinder, Filipino Cupid, DIA, PinaLove. Simply ask the e-trike guys and the guys working the disco and guys and gals working bars and hotels.

For a comparison earlier this month I was in the city of Bangued in the province of ABRA in the north of Luzon Island. I found a bar and some freelancers by asking the guy that owned the house I was renting a room with bathroom in. If I can find sex there you sure as hell can it in Boracay. The nicer hotel you stay at and the more money you are willing to spend the more girls you have available. I prefer this because if I like the girl I can spend every day with her and send her home for half the day when I need a break for alone time. If not keep finding another one. It will be cheaper than bringing your own and so many flake at the last minute.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

I really don't want to be flying some bird out there, it's too much headache when the trip is as short as mine.

I've never done online either but will give it a go this time just to see what happens.

I have a decent budget and so can grease some palms and I'll be staying at one of the better hotels. This is a once in a lifetime trip for me, I may not get the opportunity again, so I'm happy to spend. I've been to parts of SEA many times with family and just gawped at the beautiful women but never been able to partake.

This time I want to taste them. And I won't let money stand in the way LOL.

Really appreciate all the advice given by you kind gents on this forum.

I just remembered something weird (in a good way) :

About 2 years ago I was thinking to stay in El Nido for few months, and I was looking for a decent place to rent in Corong. I came across this lady that was working in a restaurant there, and she offered a bungalow in her backyard, that came with a built in 19 year old, all you can fuck, bed companion. Later upon further inquiries I figured out that the girl was her live in baby sitter, and she was living in the bungalow, later she send me pics with her, nice body but ugly face. Anyway I didn't take the offer because I decided to move further north to Busuanga, where I ended up with a photomodel all fucked up in the head, with drinking problems, and I forgot all about the babysitter.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2962929]... I decided to move further north to Busuanga, where I ended up with a photomodel all fucked up in the head, with drinking problems, and I forgot all about the babysitter.[/QUOTE]What is it with addicted, whacked in the head stunners that makes them such good fucks?? I can tell the same story about a Sabang pole dancer from years ago: absolutely gorgeous, super toned and came complete with slashed up forearms from low grade shabu use. But man could she fuck. I lost track of her when she was run out of town for causing too much shit. How I didn't end up with a slashed throat or major disease, I'll never know.

The things we do when we are young and stoppid.

G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2962601]Hi Alex _ G and Ugly have offered some excellent suggestions.

For a really decent beachside location, Boracay can be worth it with Ugly's input at scoring freelancers. I had no trouble at all and didn't have to BYO.

Having said that, in March next year I'm taking a friend there for a week who has never travelled from Mindoro apart from a trip to Manila. She's just shit scared of flying for the first time, but we'll get over that with some Tanduay.

Sabang has worked for me. It's an easy trip from Manila and if you go around to Big Laguna beach (a quick 20 minute walk) you'll be able to get some vacation pics to send back to the Mrs. I just have quite a few contacts there now and I've never been one for the bar scene when you can meet locals and compensate them accordingly.

But that takes time to establish..[/QUOTE]Sorry Phil, somehow I missed your post the first time around.

Thank you for great advice, much appreciated.

Guys, I know this isn't the correct forum but it seems to have well seasoned and helpful adventurers here and I've already explained my situation so I will ask.

Thailand would actually be a much easier destination for me as there are direct flights from India (where I will be on business for a few days).

I have been with family to Thailand many times, including many of the Islands.

More than 24 hours in BKK and any trip at all to Pattaya would be a complete no no.

Any thoughts about potential destinations in Thailand (preferably mainland) that fulfill the same kind of criteria that I mentioned for the Philippines? Ie somewhere that has touristy stuff to use as cover, has 5 star hotels and a decent mongering scene?

Somewhere like Chang Mai, Chang Rai would have been perfect; I could have just said I want to get away and unwind amongst the beautiful landscapes and also could have perhaps taken a quick trip into Laos.

However having done some research it seems those areas are fairly dead for mongering with the exception of massage parlours (which I'm not really into).

Thanks in advance and have a great weekend.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2963022]

Any thoughts about potential destinations in Thailand (preferably mainland) that fulfill the same kind of criteria that I mentioned for the Philippines? Ie somewhere that has touristy stuff to use as cover, has 5 star hotels and a decent mongering scene?

Somewhere like Chang Mai, Chang Rai would have been perfect; I could have just said I want to get away and unwind amongst the beautiful landscapes and also could have perhaps taken a quick trip into Laos.

However having done some research it seems those areas are fairly dead for mongering with the exception of massage parlours (which I'm not really into).

Thanks in advance and have a great weekend.[/QUOTE]Phuket would have to be top of the list. Sounds like you're happy to spend up so the high prices won't bother you, the high prices and gullible tourists draw the hottest girls and there are resorts / attractions / photo ops right there to keep mom happy

I'd have to check but you might even get direct flights from India. TH is extremely popular with Indian tourists and mongers now.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963047]Phuket would have to be top of the list. Sounds like you're happy to spend up so the high prices won't bother you, the high prices and gullible tourists draw the hottest girls and there are resorts / attractions / photo ops right there to keep mom happy

I'd have to check but you might even get direct flights from India. TH is extremely popular with Indian tourists and mongers now..[/QUOTE]Hi mate.

I did take a look into Phuket and if what I've read is true then the prices being asked are crazy. I have a healthy budget for the trip but I still value my hard earned money and there is the principle that I refuse to be ripped off.

Perhaps prices are more reasonable away from the main strips and via online mechanisms like Thai Friendly, I shall do some more digging.

There is an area called Khao Lak about 1. 5 hours from Phuket and it has nice hotels and beaches. I'm wondering if mongering might be a bit more reasonable there. The hottest girls will probably be working in Phuket but I'm not chasing 9's and 10's, I actually prefer the pretty / well kept next door type as opposed to surgically enhanced model types.

Thanks for your input, I will continue to research. Mongering research can take up so much time LOL.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2963083]Thanks for your input, I will continue to research. Mongering research can take up so much time LOL.[/QUOTE]No problems. Happy to help. With respect, you seem to be suffering from analysis paralysis and finding reasons why every location won't work. Remember that there is pussy everywhere in SEAsia. Especially so if you're not insisting on the hottest 10's. The best times that I have had have all been surprises while trips planned to the nth degree have never gone as expected.

I'd suggest you settle on the location with the best fit, rather than seek the perfect solution, then turn up with a full wallet and stiff dick. Ask around and the rest will take care of it's self.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2962934]What is it with addicted, whacked in the head stunners that makes them such good fucks?? I can tell the same story about a Sabang pole dancer from years ago: absolutely gorgeous, super toned and came complete with slashed up forearms from low grade shabu use. But man could she fuck. I lost track of her when she was run out of town for causing too much shit. How I didn't end up with a slashed throat or major disease, I'll never know.

The things we do when we are young and stoppid.

G.[/QUOTE]I was going to stay with her for few months, maybe more, but it lasted about 2 weeks. She was a heavy drinker, and she was only drinking white wine, weird choice for a filipina, but since I was paying for it when going out, and there are no grapes growing in the PH, it started to become kind of expensive at 25 $/ bottle, mostly being imported from California.

She drank a whole bottle with every meal, and if not stopped, would drink more.

Because we were staying at her villa, and going out with her car, she was driving back intoxicated, recklessly thru the small coast villages, full of people, kids, and dogs, miraculously not hitting anyone.

It all ended one day after she came back from a photoshoot, and acted very very weird, not as her usual drunkennes, I asked and she told me at the afterparty there was cocaine, that night she was all paranoid, wanting more, and trying to get more, making phone calls, etc. I ended up locking her out of her own house, screams, and bangs, luckily no close up neighbors to call the police, she made her way in thru an upstairs balcony, I have no idea how she claimed up there, and there was a lot of yelling then crying once she was in, of course I didn't close one eye all night long, I booked a flight, and in the morning before she wake up I was gone, couldn't do it earlier, because in that remote corner of the island close to Turda city there are no trikes or motorbikes roaming around at night. That was the final drop that made me leave, beside the 50 $/ day for her wine, I didn't mind the food and occasional expenses.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963134]I was going to stay with her for few months, maybe more, but it lasted about 2 weeks. She was a heavy drinker, and she was only drinking white wine, weird choice for a filipina, but since I was paying for it when going out, and there are no grapes growing in the PH, it started to become kind of expensive at 25 $/ bottle, mostly being imported from California.

She drank a whole bottle with every meal, and if not stopped, would drink more.

Because we were staying at her villa, and going out with her car, she was driving back intoxicated, recklessly thru the small coast villages, full of people, kids, and dogs, miraculously not hitting anyone.

It all ended one day after she came back from a photoshoot, and acted very very weird, not as her usual drunkennes, I asked and she told me at the afterparty there was cocaine, that night she was all paranoid, wanting more, and trying to get more, making phone calls, etc. I ended up locking her out of her own house, screams, and bangs, luckily no close up neighbors to call the police, she made her way in thru an upstairs balcony, I have no idea how she claimed up there, and there was a lot of yelling then crying once she was in, of course I didn't close one eye all night long, I booked a flight, and in the morning before she wake up I was gone, couldn't do it earlier, because in that remote corner of the island close to Turda city there are no trikes or motorbikes roaming around at night. That was the final drop that made me leave, beside the 50 $/ day for her wine, I didn't mind the food and occasional expenses.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this is a common story. I've lost count of the times I've seen a strung out street junkie and local girls have told me that she was once the prettiest and busiest girl in town.

Similar stories:

A long term BF / GF enjoyed the party circuit and go out clubbing for the night. Back at home, she pops some pixy dust while he's in the CR and decides that she can fly off the 17th storey balcony. She flew ok but the landing wasn't pretty. Idiot even complained that it cost him $7 k to make the problem go away.

I took a girl home who was known to be a wild child. She goes into the bathroom and pops some helpers. Next thing she is literally running laps around the room on top of the furniture. I had to crash tackle her before she destroyed the place. The fuck was so bad that it was comical.

Remember kiddies, Just Say No.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963117]No problems. Happy to help. With respect, you seem to be suffering from analysis paralysis and finding reasons why every location won't work. Remember that there is pussy everywhere in SEAsia. Especially so if you're not insisting on the hottest 10's. The best times that I have had have all been surprises while trips planned to the nth degree have never gone as expected.

I'd suggest you settle on the location with the best fit, rather than seek the perfect solution, then turn up with a full wallet and stiff dick. Ask around and the rest will take care of it's self.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Analysis Paralysis! You've hit the nail on the head.

I'm over planning and it's something I have a habit of doing.

Usually at some point (hopefully quite soon) I get exhausted by the whole thing and then just take a punt on one of the options.

You're a good judge of character LOL.

The Davao forum is dead, I need intel, not the mongering kind.

Last Night I took the decision, that I stayed for too long in one place, and it's time to explore new places, I ditched my 1 peso airplane tickets for BKK, (the flight is today), canceled the hotel in the last moment, and started looking on the map.

I've been to Mindanao but only in the norther part to Siargao, Surigao, and Butuan, this time I want to fly into Davao, stay there for a month if is nice, then crawl slowly north for a few months. I will do this with my GF, and she will hunt for us, bringing in fresh meat if available and good looking.

What's the good, the bad, and the ugly about Davao? In what area should I look for a rental? What places to avoid? And what is there to do from a non mongering perspective?

I know that because being a mongering addict, probably I will visit the Rizzal st area at some point, but that's not the main objective for this trip.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963223]

I've been to Mindanao but only in the norther part to Siargao, Surigao, and Butuan, this time I want to fly into Davao, stay there for a month if is nice, then crawl slowly north for a few months. I will do this with my GF, and she will hunt for us, bringing in fresh meat if available and good looking.

What's the good, the bad, and the ugly about Davao? In what area should I look for a rental? What places to avoid? And what is there to do from a non mongering perspective?

I know that because being a mongering addict, probably I will visit the Rizzal st area at some point, but that's not the main objective for this trip.[/QUOTE]I just did this exact trip and posted near daily reports. Just search my username. I didn't post on civilian things to do but I did include convenient places to stay, a few accommodation disasters and of course girl reports.

I didn't do Hotlegs and the bars because I couldn't keep up with the online options. To be honest I haven't heard a single good report about the DVO Gogos but YMMV.

My only regrets from the trip was that I didn't go to Gensan and surprise surprise the stay was too short.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963231]I just did this exact trip and posted near daily reports. Just search my username. I didn't post on civilian things to do but I did include convenient places to stay, a few accommodation disasters and of course girl reports.

I didn't do Hotlegs and the bars because I couldn't keep up with the online options. To be honest I haven't heard a single good report about the DVO Gogos but YMMV.

My only regrets from the trip was that I didn't go to Gensan and surprise surprise the stay was too short.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I remember reading it, but didn't remember much from it, now when I need it, I can't really find it, I just browsed thru 12 pages of posts. Please post a link to it.

I rented an apt in matina aplaya, I hope the area is ok.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963277]I remember reading it, but didn't remember much from it, now when I need it, I can't really find it, I just browsed thru 12 pages of posts. Please post a link to it.[/QUOTE]You can see his entire multiple reports summary (page 4), and click on any one city that you like, here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2957790&viewfull=1#post2957790[/URL]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2963303]You can see his entire multiple reports summary (page 4), and click on any one city that you like, here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2957790&viewfull=1#post2957790[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. This makes it a lot easier.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2963303]You can see his entire multiple reports summary (page 4), and click on any one city that you like, here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2957790&viewfull=1#post2957790[/URL][/QUOTE]I read all of them again, and I enjoyed, just like the first time I read it, great reports, but that's not the info I was looking for. Just need basic info on touristy stuff, transportation, things to do (I'll be staying there for a month), and what to avoid.

The occasional mongering will be arranged by my GF, when she finds someone suitable for her taste.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963334]The occasional mongering will be arranged by my GF, when she finds someone suitable for her taste.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure your girl will be able to find you a provincial goodie (or several). Thin, long-wasted, flat-tummied things with cute faces and big eyes. Well, that's what I heard.

Looking forward to the report.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2963423]Thin, long-wasted, flat-tummied things with cute faces and big eyes. Well, that's what I heard.[/QUOTE]I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.

Hi Guys,

Just a report on the ground from Sabang.

We'll I got here without trouble yesterday (see my previous report on how get to Sabang and back from Manila). I think the only thing that has changed is it seems to be cheaper. Jam Liner bus from Buendia MNL to Batangas 260 p, Fastcat from Batangas to Puerto Galera 650 p and a tuk tuk from the port to Sabang only 250 p!

It wasn't long before I checked into my usual waterfront hotel (with an upgrade to a brand new room as a return customer). Many would note I prefer Sabang as a mongering destination as it's actually has a nice water view and isn't a shithole like some other options. Many would also note I don't do the typical gogo scene, preferring to filter the money saved on LD's and Barfines in other directions.

It wasn't long before I had my Sabang GF in the room. Early forties, the slim brown body of a twenty year old (pre the Jollibee fat), petite small boobs with massive brown nipples and the smoothest skin. Adding to this, the tidiest little pussy I've seen in all my 50 odd years and the fact that she fucks like a little gymnast, is amazing. Yes it was a damn fine welcome back. See, it helps to keep in touch with the contacts you make along the way. I'll disclose I gift her 2000 p a day plus some food and drinks.

I've spoken of her in the past, as we met on my first visit here over two years ago (if my memory serves me correct). She works in a regular bar. They get paid 395 p for an eight hour shift plus 100 p for each LD they manage to soak out of a customer, who are not allowed to touch the waitresses and are basically only paying extra for a chat. Well kind of.

There are a few girls there who will go with a customer after work. It seems to depend on how cash needy they are at the time and their personal situation. And it's quite hush-hush. One girl will fuck anyone and another has broken a few times for the cash, but being a single mum / mom doesn't want to run the risk of bringing up a foreigner's kid after a one-night payout.

Anyway, girlfriend "F" has been a Mama in one of the bars in the past but got tired of all the hassles. She now works freelance as a Mama lining up girls only for people she knows and definitely not wasted strangers. She has given me a great update on the sex scene in Sabang that I thought I'd share.

Okay, Sabang is nearly predominately, if not completely run by Koreans. Don't see it as a big issue and your chances dashed. There are basically no Westerner's here. I've only seen a few Americans and the odd German since I've arrived. She informed me that not all girls are after the Korean cock and cash. Having said that, she advised that Westerners have a particular reputation of being wasted all the time, however a lot more friendly, so behave yourself and you might be rewarded.

One of the main reasons she gave up being a Mama in the bars was because of the workload dealing with the girls when things turned to shit. In Sabang the general barfine is 5000 p, but half is given to the bar and the customer is expected to reward the balance to the girl personally. So many guys have been paying the bar and then ripping off the girls. This is one reason she cites rising barfines.

Club Exoticta is full of Bakla (Ladyboys). If that's your thing, then good on you. But beware, their plan is to get you as wasted as possible and then rob the shit out you when you pass out in your room. In Exotica, there are not barefines so to speak for Bakla, and it's totally freelance if you're into that sort of thing.

She's had problems with her girls sleeping with Korean guys. Okay, so they have a reputation for having smallish cocks. Not a problem, I wasn't born like a donkey, but I've never had an issue. However, the Koreans have a liking for wearing cock rings to compensate and they're causing a lot of issues when it comes to vaginal bleeding. She had one guy reported to the barangay / police because he was so sexually aggressive with his girl. All of a sudden it wasn't consent. When the cops asked him to see his cock for damage he refused. It took a lot of money / compensation to get him out of that situation. So avoid cock rings and stick to the trusty vitamin V.

Over the next week I'll try and post some more info and the GF said we'd try and visit a few of her old bars so I can share some info. Just depends on if she can get out of work.

In wrapping up for now, I still highly rate Sabang. Really nice location for mongering compared to the alternatives in The Phils and you'll get what you want if you know how to go about it. And don't tell too many Westerners, as there'll be too much competition for the girls who are sick of being dictated to by the Koreans.

Just my observations _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2963479]Hi Guys,

Just a report on the ground from Sabang..[/QUOTE]I like these anthropological reports much better than ones on some anonymous hooker or other.

1. Why are the Koreans concerned about the size of their cocks? It is not like they get into measuring contests.

2. Good observation on wasted Westerners. I will be back in a few days time and I am dreading that type staying in the same hotel as me.

3. Why are there so many ladyboys? Surely they would be spread out to where the pickings are best. It also seems odd they hang around waiting for westeners to get wasted. I bet plenty of the Korean cock ring wearers like it up the Khyber Pass as well.

Anyway, a very good report, as was GoFerrings about minimum wage and minimum education I reckon the rich have the Philippines rightly by the balls and they have no intention of stopping squeezing. I see the VP has taken a contract out on the President. Real fkked up shit that.

I suppose one other tihng: last time, I hung out with ordinary women ando ne or two hookers as they had lunch. The ordianry women thought I ws a good guy andaksed me to get them overseas boyfriends, They tell me they get saturated with morons sending them dick pics. Lots of males are really screwed up, but so too is the Philippines.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2963423]Pretty sure your girl will be able to find you a provincial goodie (or several). Thin, long-wasted, flat-tummied things with cute faces and big eyes. Well, that's what I heard.

Looking forward to the report.[/QUOTE]Is not going to happen every day, but she does it once or sometimes twice a week. First we'll stop in Cebu at one of her best GF from college for 3 days, she made the arrangements in advance already, and the other girl is very shy, but eager to try it.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963455]I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.[/QUOTE]Why are you posting a picture of Christina Lucci who is from New Jersey and not Mindanao? She is not even a Filipina.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2963479]Hi Guys,

Just a report on the ground from Sabang.
............... I'll disclose I gift her 2000 p a day plus some food and drinks.

..................[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I used to do long time ago when I was still married, and could not get a GF for obvious reasons: paid 2 k / day for a few days, or if was a keeper for longer term 20 K / month, even if I wasn't staying for a month. Always got them lined up in advance on Pinalove as paid guides with benefits, and discussed everything in advance, it took some work, and filtering. Better than BF and a lot cheaper, also you can have a conversation, because usually the ones advertising as guides, are educated, teachers or travel industry related degrees, but unemployed.

I don't have nothing against BFs, and I still do it sometimes while in AC, because I feel like a kid in a candy store while shopping for pussy in bars.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2963479] So many guys have been paying the bar and then ripping off the girls.

She's had problems with her girls sleeping with Korean guys. Okay, so they have a reputation for having smallish cocks. Not a problem, I wasn't born like a donkey, but I've never had an issue. However, the Koreans have a liking for wearing cock rings to compensate and they're causing a lot of issues when it comes to vaginal bleeding. She had one guy reported to the barangay / police because he was so sexually aggressive with his girl. All of a sudden it wasn't consent. When the cops asked him to see his cock for damage he refused. It took a lot of money / compensation to get him out of that situation.[/QUOTE]Curious about the percentage of westerners versus Koreans doing the not paying the girls. Of course the numbers will be higher for the Koreans because they are a much larger group there. So the percentage would be more helpful.

I had a Korean buddy I hung out with in the past. They are bossy to the girls and all the hotel and restaurant staff. Basically a-holes complaining about anything and everything.

Cock ring story was interesting. Even a little aggressive wearing that could easily be considered rape since it can quickly and easily hurt the girls.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2963484]3. Why are there so many ladyboys? Surely they would be spread out to where the pickings are best. It also seems odd they hang around waiting for westeners to get wasted. I bet plenty of the Korean cock ring wearers like it up the Khyber Pass as well.[/QUOTE]In the past it was to get drunk foreigners and still is a little bit. Obviously things have changed or they would not be out in force by 7 pm. It is because older guys 'line in the sand' keeps moving. More precisely keeps dropping. Service starts to trump looks. This is slowly happening to me. I will take less looks and a little older but rarely ever go above age 27. PhilJoy below is already lowered himself into the low 40's. Also, guys start running out of money. So guys start dating older and older women who are cheaper and more into sex because they are not getting it like the younger girls. Not even close. The older ladies are married so they are the ones that hit it and quit it making it easy for the foreigner. So the foreigner keeps taking older and older ladies with not as much hugging, kissing, licking, sucking, etc. Basically just insert the rod until the shot is fired. In time her mouth or pussy just becomes a hole to insert and cum like a glory hole. Now the foreigner gets to the point where he can get his dick sucked by an old ugly woman or someone younger and prettier to get sucked off by not caring as much as to who is doing the job, even if it is a guy. Kinda like sticking your dick in a glory hole and not caring who sucks it as long as he can get a load off. Once the foreigner gets used to that, the Ladyboy bends over and the foreigner says to himself a hole is a hole and this one's tighter.

You can say "No! No! No!" to a ladyboy and they will still follow you for a good distance. The fastest way I get them to stop on a dime and go away is to tell them "You are ugly!" or "You look like a guy! Your preference.

Standards keep dropping for so many people. Look at the picture posted of a non-Filipina that was supposedly found in Mindanao. Sad really.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2963479]

In wrapping up for now, I still highly rate Sabang. Really nice location for mongering compared to the alternatives in The Phils and you'll get what you want if you know how to go about it. And don't tell too many Westerners, as there'll be too much competition for the girls who are sick of being dictated to by the Koreans.

Just my observations _ Phil.[/QUOTE]An interesting thought. I was blasted as a BS'er previously for suggesting that resident divemasters were getting stunning K girls for pennies on the dollar. Some were whenever the girls had an itch to scratch and others were when unexpected bills rolled in.

Perhaps your thesis explains why the girls were happy with 1000 from Dave the dive master. The guys involved were always nice, happy go lucky and popular whenever they walked in the bars for beer o'clock.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963583]An interesting thought. I was blasted as a BS'er previously for suggesting that resident divemasters were getting stunning K girls for pennies on the dollar. Some were whenever the girls had an itch to scratch and others were when unexpected bills rolled in.

Perhaps your thesis explains why the girls were happy with 1000 from Dave the dive master. The guys involved were always nice, happy go lucky and popular whenever they walked in the bars for beer o'clock.[/QUOTE]I wander if they get girls from K also, or who does the unaccompanied ones vacationing in the PH alone? I'm too old to try to get them, but I'm sure they are curious about testing some foreign dick.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963648]I wander if they get girls from K also, or who does the unaccompanied ones vacationing in the PH alone?.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure who the "they" are that you are referring to. For clarity the DMs were scoring the stunning bargirls who would typically only be barfined by Koreans. At the time, barfines were 4 k and my friends were paying 1 k for an afternoon.

I've never met unaccompanied Korean girl groups so I can't comment. I do know that male Korean instructors etc working in town are massive cock blockers should anyone try their luck with the Korean female employees. The Korean girls were very cute but I and my friends never got anywhere with them.

There was talk of some "Russian" guys opening a bar with *stan girls but I don't think that ever eventuated. I've never seen anything but Philippina girls working in Sabang bars. Certainly no Koreans. This may have changed. Phil would be the best for recent intel.

Hope this answers your questions.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963653]I'm not sure who the "they" are that you are referring to. For clarity the DMs were scoring the stunning bargirls who would typically only be barfined by Koreans. At the time, barfines were 4 k and my friends were paying 1 k for an afternoon.

I've never met unaccompanied Korean girl groups so I can't comment. I do know that male Korean instructors etc working in town are massive cock blockers should anyone try their luck with the Korean female employees. The Korean girls were very cute but I and my friends never got anywhere with them.

There was talk of some "Russian" guys opening a bar with *stan girls but I don't think that ever eventuated. I've never seen anything but Philippina girls working in Sabang bars. Certainly no Koreans. This may have changed. Phil would be the best for recent intel.

Hope this answers your questions.

G.[/QUOTE]"They" was in the context of the filipino DM.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963669]"They" was in the context of the filipino DM.[/QUOTE]Aaah. I think it's fair to say that 99.99% of the bargirls have a pinoy boyfriend or hubby stashed away somewhere. They tend to receive money from the girls, not pay them for pussy regardless of how good they look.

The friends that I was talking about were / are all foreign.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963455]I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.[/QUOTE]So how exactly did you meet Christina Lucci, a non-Filipina, from New Jersey worth an estimated $2 million USD?

[URL]https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=christina[/URL]+lucci+flat+Florida+shirt&ID=6 E4 BE7 FF047 C1606 C1 E1 B7 EA91131 F8 C0045 DC7 E&form=IQFRBA&first=1&disoverlay=1.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963751]Aaah. I think it's fair to say that 99.99% of the bargirls have a pinoy boyfriend or hubby stashed away somewhere. Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]They still need "love" and the guys need their Red Horse money. Plus, with the 5/6 system so many are spongers. Woman / man goes to the Gulf, works hard, useless relatives squander it all.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963455]I found that not everything in Mindanao is flat.[/QUOTE]She doesn't look like she's from mindanao! Hahaha. I remember her. Brings back a lot of memories from my younger days.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2963795]She doesn't look like she's from mindanao! Hahaha. I remember her. Brings back a lot of memories from my younger days.[/QUOTE]I'll be honest, I have no idea who she is. I was more making the point that many Mindanao girls also have big cans.

Lots of guys seem to know her and even a few were hugely offended. Was she famous? From a specific area??

My apologies if I've insulted someone's teenage masterbatory fantasy. 😁.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963816]I'll be honest, I have no idea who she is. I was more making the point that many Mindanao girls also have big cans.
.[/QUOTE]Really? Why could you not post a real picture of a Filipina of your own even if it was from another island or from the past years ago? Your post was bragging as if you had met her. But you got caught.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2963754]So how exactly did you meet Christina Lucci, a non-Filipina, from New Jersey worth an estimated $2 million USD?

[URL]https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=christina[/URL]+lucci+flat+Florida+shirt&ID=6 E4 BE7 FF047 C1606 C1 E1 B7 EA91131 F8 C0045 DC7 E&form=IQFRBA&first=1&disoverlay=1.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2963834]Really? Why could you not post a real picture of a Filipina of your own even if it was from another island or from the past years ago? Your post was bragging as if you had met her. But you got caught.[/QUOTE]Not sure he 'got caught'. Nor was he trying to pass off miss Lucci as Filipina. Her shirt clearly says Florida on it. He was simply using it as an example of boobage. Most of us understood that it was analogous, not literal.

In addition, he did post such a real picture of a Filipina of similar proportions during his recent Mindanao travels:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2953019&viewfull=1#post2953019[/URL]

Instead of praising pic posters, haters gonna hate.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2963881]Not sure he 'got caught'. Nor was he trying to pass off miss Lucci as Filipina. Her shirt clearly says Florida on it. He was simply using it as an example of boobage. Most of us understood that it was analogous, not literal.

In addition, he did post such a real picture of a Filipina of similar proportions during his recent Mindanao travels:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2953019&viewfull=1#post2953019[/URL]

Instead of praising pic posters, haters gonna hate.[/QUOTE]Here are not one, but 2 sets of mindanao boobs.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2963834]Really? Why could you not post a real picture of a Filipina of your own even if it was from another island or from the past years ago?

Your post was bragging as if you had met her. But you got caught.[/QUOTE]I won't repost Westies link so here's your requested one from from years ago. This time Davao. Open the link for photos. As I said large tits are pretty generic across Mindanao.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2148861]I came across this flat chested lass in Davao.

Swore that she was the smallest of her sisters.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what part of me saying I didn't even know who she is / was she a bragging but if you say so, then fine, you caught me. I've been busted. The same as when you busted me for not including step by step instructions on how to catch a bus. Luckily you did follow up with a very incitful post on how to do the same.

Ill go back to reporting on broader issues in the Philippines. You know, things like finding, meeting and fucking girls. Feel free to continue to police others' reports of doing said activities. We wait with bated breath.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2963539]PhilJoy below is already lowered himself into the low 40's. Also, guys start running out of money. So guys start dating older and older women who are cheaper and more into sex because they are not getting it like the younger girls. Not even close. The older ladies are married so they are the ones that hit it and quit it making it easy for the foreigner. So the foreigner keeps taking older and older ladies with not as much hugging, kissing, licking, sucking, etc. Basically just insert the rod until the shot is fired.[/QUOTE]Mate, nothing could be further from the truth if you've just had the last four days I've encountered, and there's a few more to come too!

I'll admit, there's some really hot young things about Sabang, but to tell the truth, they all look terribly unhappy getting dragged along by their Korean clients.

I haven't exactly "Lowered myself into the 40's".

I just prefer to spend my time here with a friend I've known for some years now, who always 'performs' every day like a champion between the sheets, has the body of a girl in her twenties and will come and spend two to three hours every afternoon on the balcony chatting with me about all sorts of shit, most often un-sex related. It's a friendship with amazing sex included.

I suppose when it comes to generalizing situations, we may have all been guilty of it at one point.

Sure I'm avoiding expensive barfines and LD's, but I have a girl 'on-tap' and I know that the 2000 p I gift her every day is going straight to her and her family. And she's extremely appreciative of that.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2963932]I just prefer to spend my time here with a friend I've known for some years now, who always 'performs' every day like a champion between the sheets, has the body of a girl in her twenties and will come and spend two to three hours every afternoon on the balcony chatting with me about all sorts of shit, most often un-sex related. It's a friendship with amazing sex included.
l.[/QUOTE]P.

I'm with ya there. I do when the opportunity presents itself choose to spend time with some ladies in their 30's and 1 in her 40's. They are spectacular women and I enjoy them very much. They are super awesome in bed, and a pleasure to spend time with everywhere else. Granted I met and enjoyed them when they were teenagers and in their twenties also. If I had to rate them now on pure enjoyment scale, handsdown the older self is much more skilled and enjoyable.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2963932]

I'll admit, there's some really hot young things about Sabang, but to tell the truth, they all look terribly unhappy getting dragged along by their Korean clients.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]We all enjoy having a hottie on our arm but I'm yet to see a direct correlation between the the hottest girls giving the best performance. If anything it's the reverse because they know they have a million suitors and do not have to impress anyone to seal a deal.

Next we will be arguing that guys are lowering themselves by not paying the most or going to the most popular bars. It's ridiculous.

Enjoy. G.

I have lowered my standards. Little bit older and older as time goes by and not staying up all night to find the hottest one. Just one hot enough to get me to blow my load. Also, fewer girls per week. Mentally harder to get turned on. Some days my one a day seems to much. But also the choices available are also getting older and older. The bar girls and street girl ages keep rising.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2964029]I have lowered my standards. Little bit older and older as time goes by and not staying up all night to find the hottest one. Just one hot enough to get me to blow my load. Also, fewer girls per week. Mentally harder to get turned on. Some days my one a day seems to much. But also the choices available are also getting older and older. The bar girls and street girl ages keep rising.[/QUOTE]Pretty soon it will get to the point where you will be like those guys you described where a hole is a hole LOL.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2964029]I have lowered my standards. Little bit older and older as time goes by and not staying up all night to find the hottest one. Just one hot enough to get me to blow my load. Also, fewer girls per week. Mentally harder to get turned on. Some days my one a day seems to much. But also the choices available are also getting older and older. The bar girls and street girl ages keep rising.[/QUOTE]I'm in two minds here. No disrespect to Phil, he's welcome to prefer, pay for and fuck whomever he wants. However, I'm not flying half way around the world to fuck 40 year olds (again, famous last words 😜 ). As a boss said to me once, hot 20 yos can type too.

At the same time, I've seen many 40+ yo Pinas who hold their age very well. Sure their not tight 19 yos but they certainly have retained their looks and they definitely know how to please a guy in and out of the bedroom, no training required. All would be fought over back home.

I'll split the difference and continue to tap out with early 30 yos and call on air head 19yos to spice things up.

Enjoy. G.

I'm looking for somewhere new.

Anyone have experience with Gensan to Cotabato, Iligan and CDO? I'm thinking a few days at each hitting the internet. Not stopping at Marawi seems wise but the others appear ok.

Thoughts and experiences?

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2964251]I'm looking for somewhere new.

Anyone have experience with Gensan to Cotabato, Iligan and CDO? I'm thinking a few days at each hitting the internet. Not stopping at Marawi seems wise but the others appear ok.

Thoughts and experiences?[/QUOTE]This was 15 years ago but I doubt much has changed and mostly based off street girls. No online.

Did not like Davao. Most guys find it to be like Cebu. They have a nice beach on the big island next door but never went. 4 days and I left. Little street scene. I would check it out again and spend a few days on the big island.

Did not like GenSan. Little street scene and not a pretty city so stayed 5 days.

Cotobato. Muslim town. Got off the bus and nobody was there. Nobody selling stuff and nobody waiting for a bus and took the last trike out of there who wanted to take the faster scenic route and I said no. Very few steet girls like 5. Did one that was so-so and wanted another because I did not want to stay in that city. That 2nd girl was aggressive, grabbed my junk quickly forcing me to bend over pushing my ass back while at the same time she pickpocketed me and got 200 p and I kicked her out. Hotels shut their doors at 8 pm but the security guard will let yo in at any time. You are not expected to go out at night. Spider senses kicked in all over that town. Arrived 1 pm and was gone 9 am the next morning.

Iligan was not a pretty town and boring because so small but had so many street girls at the time that I stayed 13 days and wanted to stay 3 more but had to leave. Iligan City Public Plaza (Park) has bands on the weekends and free if not in the sit down / chair area. You can meet all kinds of people there if you are just a little bit social and want to talk to a girl and hand her your number for later. Fun relaxing open vibe with food stalls all around.

Cagayan de Oro I liked. They had 9 days worth of street girls for me. Vincente de Lara Park (McArthur Park when I was there) actually has lots of trees and has lights up in the trees so is relaxing to visit at night. Plaza Divisoria is one long park broken up by streets into several smaller parks. Weekends they always have something going on. I think they also have a band of sorts every Fri / Sat night.

If you want to pickup everyday girls doing everday stuff who are working, walking past, shopping at the mall I would rate them like this. Friendly and open: Iligan, CDO, Davao, GenSan, Cotabato (avoid like the plague).

Go now with all the Christmas decorations up and girls needing spending money. Many things are happening at those parks during the Christmas season so many girls that normally do not go out are now out.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2964294]This was 15 years ago but I doubt much has changed and mostly based off street girls. No online.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm pretty familiar with Davao. Being like cebu is a good analogy. It's definitely the online capital of Mindanao and takes a lot of effort not to get laid while in town.

I'm not finding a lot online in Iligan or Catabato but there are a few leads. There are numerous FB groups that I'll investigate later.

It's still seems like the area is worth a visit if I keep bookings flexible so that I can stay or live in depending what I find. Last time I made the mistake of leaving CDO too early.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2964294]This was 15 years ago but I doubt much has changed and mostly based off street girls. No online.

Did not like Davao. Most guys find it to be like Cebu. They have a nice beach on the big island next door but never went. 4 days and I left. Little street scene. I would check it out again and spend a few days on the big island.

Did not like GenSan. Little street scene and not a pretty city so stayed 5 days.

Cotobato. Muslim town. Got off the bus and nobody was there. Nobody selling stuff and nobody waiting for a bus and took the last trike out of there who wanted to take the faster scenic route and I said no. Very few steet girls like 5. Did one that was so-so and wanted another because I did not want to stay in that city. That 2nd girl was aggressive, grabbed my junk quickly forcing me to bend over pushing my ass back while at the same time she pickpocketed me and got 200 p and I kicked her out. Hotels shut their doors at 8 pm but the security guard will let yo in at any time. You are not expected to go out at night. Spider senses kicked in all over that town. Arrived 1 pm and was gone 9 am the next morning.

Iligan was not a pretty town and boring because so small but had so many street girls at the time that I stayed 13 days and wanted to stay 3 more but had to leave. Iligan City Public Plaza (Park) has bands on the weekends and free if not in the sit down / chair area. You can meet all kinds of people there if you are just a little bit social and want to talk to a girl and hand her your number for later. Fun relaxing open vibe with food stalls all around.

Cagayan de Oro I liked. They had 9 days worth of street girls for me. Vincente de Lara Park (McArthur Park when I was there) actually has lots of trees and has lights up in the trees so is relaxing to visit at night. Plaza Divisoria is one long park broken up by streets into several smaller parks. Weekends they always have something going on. I think they also have a band of sorts every Fri / Sat night.

If you want to pickup everyday girls doing everday stuff who are working, walking past, shopping at the mall I would rate them like this. Friendly and open: Iligan, CDO, Davao, GenSan, Cotabato (avoid like the plague).

Go now with all the Christmas decorations up and girls needing spending money. Many things are happening at those parks during the Christmas season so many girls that normally do not go out are now out.[/QUOTE]Excellent, thank you for the report, that's exactly the kind of info I was looking for.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2964248]I'm in two minds here. No disrespect to Phil, he's welcome to prefer, pay for and fuck whomever he wants. However, I'm not flying half way around the world to fuck 40 year olds (again, famous last words 😜 ). As a boss said to me once, hot 20 yos can type too.

At the same time, I've seen many 40+ yo Pinas who hold their age very well. Sure their not tight 19 yos but they certainly have retained their looks and they definitely know how to please a guy in and out of the bedroom, no training required. All would be fought over back home.

I'll split the difference and continue to tap out with early 30 yos and call on air head 19yos to spice things up.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Hi G,

Absolutely no disrespect taken.

It's just the circumstances I've found myself in at the time.

I didn't fly this far to focus on the one older contact. I always leave my options open and it's just panned out this way on this particular trip.

However, this girl has provided everything and more during my latest visit.

I think if any of us are getting what we want, so be it.

Congrats to all for getting some of the sweetest pussy on the planet.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2964251]I'm looking for somewhere new.

Anyone have experience with Gensan to Cotabato, Iligan and CDO? I'm thinking a few days at each hitting the internet. Not stopping at Marawi seems wise but the others appear ok.

Thoughts and experiences?

G.[/QUOTE]My experience is of a different sort. I spent three weeks in Mindanao this past summer visiting my partner who lives in the mountains NW of Gensan. That trip was for time with her, and I wasn't looking for an opportunity to step out. We stayed near Gensan for several days, and spent a lot of time in that city, Polomulok, Koronadal / Marbel, and Surallah. Gensan has plenty of foreigners in the usual areas around the resorts, in the mall, etc. There are much fewer as you go past Koronadal. I would probably suggest not going too far off that path without a trusted Filipina or friend. Not because it is not safe, but because it really isn't a mongering area and it's pretty awkward to be alone. If you're not looking for a relationship, you have no business there. The girls will not meet foreigners for dates or paid encounters near where their family and friends live.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2963539]In the past it was to get drunk foreigners and still is a little bit. Obviously things have changed or they would not be out in force by 7 pm. It is because older guys 'line in the sand' keeps moving. More precisely keeps dropping. Service starts to trump looks. This is slowly happening to me. I will take less looks and a little older but rarely ever go above age 27. PhilJoy below is already lowered himself into the low 40's. Also, guys start running out of money. So guys start dating older and older women who are cheaper and more into sex because they are not getting it like the younger girls. Not even close. The older ladies are married so they are the ones that hit it and quit it making it easy for the foreigner. So the foreigner keeps taking older and older ladies with not as much hugging, kissing, licking, sucking, etc. Basically just insert the rod until the shot is fired. In time her mouth or pussy just becomes a hole to insert and cum like a glory hole. Now the foreigner gets to the point where he can get his dick sucked by an old ugly woman or someone younger and prettier to get sucked off by not caring as much as to who is doing the job, even if it is a guy. Kinda like sticking your dick in a glory hole and not caring who sucks it as long as he can get a load off. Once the foreigner gets used to that, the Ladyboy bends over and the foreigner says to himself a hole is a hole and this one's tighter.

You can say "No! No! No!" to a ladyboy and they will still follow you for a good distance. The fastest way I get them to stop on a dime and go away is to tell them "You are ugly!" or "You look like a guy! Your preference.

Standards keep dropping for so many people. Look at the picture posted of a non-Filipina that was supposedly found in Mindanao. Sad really.[/QUOTE]Don't criticize too much for going the older route. This new breed of bar girl the affection and interest is on the low side. Very friendly and flirty in the bar but once in the room its all business. Basically foreigner dude stick it in and lets get this over with. Lately I've had younger ones lets say under 27,yeah they perform, cowgirl, doggy, missionary and blowjob but when the deed is up they wash off and watch TV. The affection or pillow talk so to speak or GFE seems to be disappearing, and spending the night was a big no no. Maybe my last trip was just bad luck but I've noticed this behavior more and more. Nothing wrong with just a screw sometimes, pay up and out the door but not every time. Over 30 it seems the GFE is a given at least in my experience. Don't get me wrong a young beauty is nice to look at but the human connection from the past seems to be disappearing. After my last trip in September I should have stuck with my regulars, the few new ones I tried were not worth the time or money.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2966124]Don't get me wrong a young beauty is nice to look at but the human connection from the past seems to be disappearing. After my last trip in September I should have stuck with my regulars, the few new ones I tried were not worth the time or money.[/QUOTE]Hi Loca, I have to agree.

My recent interaction with an 'older' contact was amazing. Weighed in at just 42 kilograms, had an amazing little body and still held her looks. Unlike many western women.

And she knew how to perform night after night.

It was a GF experience because we have known each other for a few years now.

In these circumstances, it's nice to know you're basically guaranteed a great time, at half the price and without the effort of 'hunting' a potential younger lame experience.

Having said that, I always keep my eyes open for opportunities.

_ Phil.

I had to take a quick trip to Germany. I enjoyed the beautiful weather for a week, when you look out the window in the middle of the day, you don't know if is day or night, you're getting out of bed, or you're going to sleep!?

Never again!

I don't have to tell you about how happy everybody looks.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2963083]Hi mate.

I did take a look into Phuket and if what I've read is true then the prices being asked are crazy. I have a healthy budget for the trip but I still value my hard earned money and there is the principle that I refuse to be ripped off.

Perhaps prices are more reasonable away from the main strips and via online mechanisms like Thai Friendly, I shall do some more digging.

There is an area called Khao Lak about 1. 5 hours from Phuket and it has nice hotels and beaches. I'm wondering if mongering might be a bit more reasonable there. The hottest girls will probably be working in Phuket but I'm not chasing 9's and 10's, I actually prefer the pretty / well kept next door type as opposed to surgically enhanced model types.

Thanks for your input, I will continue to research. Mongering research can take up so much time LOL.[/QUOTE]Totally skip Khao Lak Alexandra as there is very very little mongering there, and nothing of even reasonable quality at all.

Heading there for a month long DM course, and firstly I'd like to thank everyone in here for so much information already. I think I've went back about 3 years just to feel up to date!

Second, I just had a few questions about the surrounding areas. I've already bookmarked a few girls for when I'm there, but I know I'll have one or maybe two days off a week when I'm there from the divemaster course. I was curious about the scene in Calapan and Batangas. First, Calapan looks to be a decent town, university there and all that. I'll be doing some prework if possible but if not, has anyone had good info about meets or love hotels there?

Second is batangas, I'll likely be meeting a girl or two there coming from Manila (since I definitely don't want them to stay long term with me in Sabang) so again, any short term hotels or clean hotels you can recommend? Also, there are a few malls there (Bay City and SM City), both near the university. Any recommendations on a better pickup spot? Or any other info would be appreciated.

A little about me, late 30's, white, attached but looking anyways (which is why a long term stay with me arrangement isn't ideal). Not my first time mongering, and not my first time in the Philippines either, though first time in this area. I've never gone to a girly bar, but met a few online through craigslist and tinder / etc before. I did get extorted once in Manila by a tinder date, so I'm definitely cautious LOL.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=JoeS82;2967938]Heading there for a month long DM course, and firstly I'd like to thank everyone in here for so much information already. I think I've went back about 3 years just to feel up to date!

Second, I just had a few questions about the surrounding areas. I've already bookmarked a few girls for when I'm there, but I know I'll have one or maybe two days off a week when I'm there from the divemaster course. I was curious about the scene in Calapan and Batangas. First, Calapan looks to be a decent town, university there and all that. I'll be doing some prework if possible but if not, has anyone had good info about meets or love hotels there?

Second is batangas, I'll likely be meeting a girl or two there coming from Manila (since I definitely don't want them to stay long term with me in Sabang) so again, any short term hotels or clean hotels you can recommend? Also, there are a few malls there (Bay City and SM City), both near the university. Any recommendations on a better pickup spot? Or any other info would be appreciated.

A little about me, late 30's, white, attached but looking anyways (which is why a long term stay with me arrangement isn't ideal). Not my first time mongering, and not my first time in the Philippines either, though first time in this area. I've never gone to a girly bar, but met a few online through craigslist and tinder / etc before. I did get extorted once in Manila by a tinder date, so I'm definitely cautious LOL.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You got it backwards, the girls are the ones that won't stay with you long term, only if extraordinary arrangements are made, so no need to worry about that part.

[QUOTE=JoeS82;2967938]Heading there for a month long DM course, and firstly I'd like to thank everyone in here for so much information already. I think I've went back about 3 years just to feel up to date!

Second, I just had a few questions about the surrounding areas. I've already bookmarked a few girls for when I'm there, but I know I'll have one or maybe two days off a week when I'm there from the divemaster course. I was curious about the scene in Calapan and Batangas. First, Calapan looks to be a decent town, university there and all that. I'll be doing some prework if possible but if not, has anyone had good info about meets or love hotels there?

Second is batangas, I'll likely be meeting a girl or two there coming from Manila (since I definitely don't want them to stay long term with me in Sabang) so again, any short term hotels or clean hotels you can recommend? Also, there are a few malls there (Bay City and SM City), both near the university. Any recommendations on a better pickup spot? Or any other info would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Hi Mate, Sabang is a great spot for diving and there's some lovely girls there.

Only problem is the Korean dive resorts and bars have basically taken over, but you will find some good options.

My Sabang GF informs me that Calapan is basically the capital of Mindoro and isn't geared for foreigners. Online pick-ups may be the way to go, but she said any foreigner will get noticed and you're sure to score. It's just the quality of girl can't really be guaranteed.

Batangas is much the same and the boat / fast cat trip there from Sabang will probably be quicker than going to Calapan by road.

My advice is to learn some simple Tagalog phrases ie: Salamat / kumasta ka. It's surprising how much of a conversation starter it can be, especially in stores with pretty young sales ladies. On numerous occasions in the past I've managed to get dates and contacts that way. It's also a good way of subtly making it known that you're single, available and looking for some local companionship. Everyone has a sister, cousin, friend who could do with a little reward in exchange for some horizontal folk dancing.

Sabang's a small place and everyone will know who you're with, when you're with them and what your business is.

Don't let that put you off.

I've had a great time there on every single visit and I haven't needed to visit a girly bar to do so.

You will find a few decent hotels in both cites but it's nothing like the big city options, and once again, Batangas is basically a port and commercial center not really set up for tourism. If you can persuade girls to ride the min. Two hour bus trip from Manila and back to see you, they probably won't care where they stay with you. Ideally you'd be best lining up some local talent in Batangas. Even in Sabang, the locals know everyone's movements. As opposed to getting seen heading by road to Calapan, once you're on the boat, you're out of mind, out of sight.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2968428]

You will find a few decent hotels in both cites but it's nothing like the big city options, and once again, Batangas is basically a port and commercial center not really set up for tourism. If you can persuade girls to ride the min. Two hour bus trip from Manila and back to see you, they probably won't care where they stay with you. Ideally you'd be best lining up some local talent in Batangas. Even in Sabang, the locals know everyone's movements. As opposed to getting seen heading by road to Calapan, once you're on the boat, you're out of mind, out of sight.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Don't forget that many sabang girls keep a residence in Batangas and go there frequently to visit kids, family etc. If the OP is there for months, then it shouldn't be hard to meet someone either side of the channel.

There is also a college there with many broke students.

Some Batangas girls will meet in manila but they need to be confident that the guy is actually there and it's not a scam. It's a longish bus ride just to arrive and find John is a no show.

Enjoy. G.

That is good to know. Broke college students hopefully should be an easy pickup.

I'll be in sabang for a month but once a week I might want to take a trip to nearby cities and see what I can find there. I've used DIA and tinder there with success in the past (and one terrible experience in Manila) but I have a feeling if those come up empty I should be able to game in a mall near the colleges. There are a few Manila girls I've been communicating with that I'd rather meet up with but I'm not going all the way there and back just for the same quality I can find locally. But if they'll meet me in batangas then it's worth the ferry.

I appreciate the help and tips. First time in the area.

[QUOTE=JoeS82;2968551]I'll be in sabang for a month but once a week I might want to take a trip to nearby cities and see what I can find there.
I appreciate the help and tips. First time in the area.[/QUOTE]Hi Joe, if you're not into the girly bars, like myself, just think outside the box and you're sure to score in towns within reach of Sabang.

A few years ago I started using a simple Tagalog phrase and it's always worked for me: Pwede bang magtanong? - Can I ask you a question?

The girl generally says yes or ano yun. What's that?

Just say, "Why are you so beautiful?

You'll either be greeted by giggles or it will generate banter with her friends.

Either way, you've broken the ice and WhatsApp details can be exchanged.

G's also correct in pointing out a lot of Sabang girls have family in Batangas and go back there regularly.

My friend in Sabang has family all over Mindoro and is on the road a fair bit visiting them.

Nearly all the girls working the bars in Sabang are from the provinces or elsewhere.

One of the girls who works with my Sabang GF takes three days to get back home to see her babies that her mother's raising so she can earn 600 p a shift in Sabang and suck cock on the side to pay the bills.

It might be an idea to spend two or three days in Batangas to line up some action before you head to Sabang.

I've even been approached at the ferry terminal on my past two visits by Batangas girls working for the boat companies looking for a foreign boyfriend.

So very tempting, but I declined their advances as I was on my way to catch up with my fuck of the century.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=JoeS82;2968551]That is good to know. Broke college students hopefully should be an easy pickup.

I'll be in sabang for a month but once a week I might want to take a trip to nearby cities and see what I can find there. I've used DIA and tinder there with success in the past (and one terrible experience in Manila) but I have a feeling if those come up empty I should be able to game in a mall near the colleges. There are a few Manila girls I've been communicating with that I'd rather meet up with but I'm not going all the way there and back just for the same quality I can find locally. But if they'll meet me in batangas then it's worth the ferry..[/QUOTE]A few words of warning about private ferries from Batangas to Sabang. Outside the Batangas ferry building you will get lots of offers for private ferries. There was one time I missed the last ferry from Batangas to Puerto Galera and decided to give the private speedboat ferry a try. I don't remember the price, but it seemed reasonable (maybe 1000 or 2000 pesos). I got in a private car with a shady looking guy and his son. His son was missing his front teeth and for some reason I started to get the impression that his dad knocked them out. Maybe it wasn't his dad, but the point is I was nervous and thankful for the traffic in Batangas because after being in this car for less than five minutes we were still in town and all sorts of nasty scenarios started going through my head. I ended up giving them 500 pesos as I opened the door and told them I will walk back to the ferry building. Inside the ferry building the tourist information guys told me to go to Calapan and then they said I would have multiple options to get to Sabang on the same night. They were wrong. I got to Calapan after dark (10 pm?) and the town was totally dead with no taxis, no busses, no jeepneys, nothing at all at the ferry terminal. And no way to get to Sabang that night. Grab does not work in Mindoro Island (at least it didn't work then). I ended up getting a decent cheap motel and taking a van to Sabang the next morning, but the point is, I would have been better off spending the night in Batangas and taking a ferry to Puerto Galera the next morning.

Later in Sabang I had a hotel owner tell me that if I had allowed the private car to take me to the private speedboat ferry then they would have charged me 10,000 pesos or some ridiculous amount to get to Sabang. The deal is they might quote you 1,000 pesos and if there are other tourists to split the bill you might get a decent deal, but if you are the only tourist then the whole cost falls on you, and if you don't want to pay, then the private car / taxi will charge you some ridiculous amount to take you back to the main ferry building in Batangas. So, not as bad as the scenarios that were going through my head when I decided to get out of the car and walk back to the ferry building (I thought I was going to get robbed at gunpoint, but the hotel owner assured me that would not have happened), but still happy I listened to that little voice in my head and did not try the private ferry.

For the girly bars in Sabang, District (just 10 meters from Castillo Mini Mart) and Coco Lips (a bit farther down the same alley, underneath the Dream Hotel) are two bars aimed at American tourists. There was one Saturday when some of the other bars were closed because Koreans came and barfined literally all the girls in the other Korean bars, but Coco Lips and District still had lots of hotties. In general, yes, there are a lot of Koreans, but there are still a lot of Americans and Europeans too and lots of beautiful freelancers on the promenade. The way they remodeled the promenade / boardwalk in 2023 is really nice. Anyone who has not been there this year (2024) would not recognize the waterfront. It is actually really classy.

[QUOTE=MrPalmerAcc;2968969]A few words of warning about private ferries from Batangas to Sabang. [/QUOTE]Sabang private ferries always were expensive. When you think about it, it's a long way to take one or two people esp if the return trip is empty. The banca also need to be a decent size regardless of the number of people because the conditions in the channel can get pretty rough. When the float planes were running, they were actually cheaper than a private van / ferry combo.

I don't know about now but years ago they left from a area away from the regular port and yes, it was legit but looked sketchy as fuck.

I see a lot of hotels and resorts no longer even advertised a direct or private transfer option anymore. Probably because the public ferry option is pretty easy and tim efficient.

Cheers. G.

Sabang has eight or nine bars, all but one are grouped together on the west side of the alley. Flowers is the other direction on the alley. Bars open around 7 pm, closing seems to depend on the whim of the manager. Melodie, Monro and Flowers have the same owner and arguably the hottest but snootiest girls. Monro in particular puts on big shows (including drag queens if that's your thing). The other bars are a bit more run down, although I found Sugarkiss pretty nice. Most bars have 5-10 girls but you might find 30 girls in a few.

The talent varies both by location and night to night. Drinks are p150-p180 while LDs are p410-p450. There is a big hustle for LDs in all the bars, but it doesn't seem to get you much action in the bar. Standard barfine is p5000 but some girls will ask for tips on top. Most of the girls are not getting barfined. The standard MO is for one dancer at a time on stage in a sexy but not too revealing outfit. While most of the girls sit together ignoring the men -unless it's a group of young Koreans. Not all of the girls dance, and in the fancier clubs the non-dancers might wear unrevealing evening wear.

Due to health issues I'm not pulling girls like I used to. The first two nights I bought a bunch of lady drinks, sometimes for two at a time. It was fun but expensive for no action. Night two I was ready to take a stunning 19 yo from Flowers (sort of tribal looks, but all in proportion, very pretty face). But then she said she had her "pains". Her friend said she only goes with Pinoys. Who knows? Moral, beware the young shy ones (her English was not very good).

Last night I decided to BF at Sugarkiss which has some cuties without being too over the top on the Korean style. Lisa is a 25 yo Manila girl full of energy and bubbly smiles. Cute, a 7 in my book. My brain told me to take her but my dick lead me to Saphire, again a bit tribal with a stunning face. Her body was an 8 in her clothes but a 6 at best out of them. One of the problems with these overdressed bar girls. Her attitude in the room was a 3. I would avoid.

There are freelancers around town, but I was warned that some are underage, so be careful. Hotels here don't check ID.

Since my last visit about two years ago the town has become even more Korean oriented and stratified. There are only a few non-Korean food restaurants left. If it's just girls and sex you want I would go to AC, but if you want to dive or explore PG beyond Sabang there are girls to be had here. There is now a direct speedboat transport between Sabang and Berberade Port outside Batangas. Much more convenient than the big ferries between Batangas Port and Baletero. Speedboat is p2000.

Hope this helps.

I appreciate this information from last year, but is anyone able to provide additional information? I am sorry for my naive questions, but I have never been to GenSan.

I know there is nothing like the Walking Streets in AC or Makati, but since I will be there in a month, I am wondering if there are any bars like in CDO, Dumaguete or Davao where local talent can be seen and evaluated in an environment where one can assume that a gentle proposition will not be met with a slap to the face? I assume there are not bikini clubs, but are there any bars with drinking girls?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Sam14;2802452]Gensan is not a dangerous place, and I've been to a lot of the provinces outside of there including Glan, and way up in the mountains around Lake Sebu. Locals, like your girlfriend tend to exaggerator danger all over the Philippines I've noticed. In Davao they'll tell you don't go down to the Boulevard because it's too dangerous. But I think there's more petty crime like theft. I remember getting something stolen but I don't remember what it was. And you'll see the tricycles parked overnight are inside bamboo cages. That's the only place I've seen that.

You're right about the malls, they are clustered in one small area, and that's the center of the universe. But I think there's around five altogether, maybe six.

You don't really see swarms of hot girls but there are some scattered around. You'll get allot more looks from them than you will in Davao. People are super friendly, you still get a lot of hey Joe. There is an occasional foreigner but not many. That being said, hence the food sucks. What restaurants?

And that also means there aren't apartments and condos like you see in Davao. You're not going to see Avida Towers, Magallanes Residence and places like that. It's pretty much a Filipino city for Filipinos. But it's a good place imo, and yes, you can get in the water. It's not a stunning white sand beach, but there's sand and you can get wet. Better than Davao beach anyway. Oh yeah, and it's generally warmer if you like that. It can get hot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2969021]The banca also need to be a decent size regardless of the number of people because the conditions in the channel can get pretty rough.
I see a lot of hotels and resorts no longer even advertised a direct or private transfer option anymore. Probably because the public ferry option is pretty easy and tim efficient.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Hi G,

I think the bankas are a thing of the past in Sabang when travelling to and from Batangas. Errol mentioned a speedboat service that is now available. I saw a few signs for this service outside a few hotels earlier this month but it seemed to be a limited service ie: one or two a day. You do see groups of Korean divers arriving and departing all day though. I assume it's part of their accom package. Like most transport options in The Phils, online research prior can be conflicting and out of date. I still get the tuk tuk back to the port with the GF and she does a bit of shopping in PG on the way back home to Sabang after I take the Island Water fast cat (45 minutes) back to Batangas.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2969036]One of the problems with these overdressed bar girls. Her attitude in the room was a 3. I would avoid.
There are freelancers around town, but I was warned that some are underage, so be careful. Hotels here don't check ID.
Since my last visit about two years ago the town has become even more Korean oriented and stratified. There are only a few non-Korean food restaurants left. If it's just girls and sex you want I would go to AC, but if you want to dive or explore PG beyond Sabang there are girls to be had here. There is now a direct speedboat transport between Sabang and Berberade Port outside Batangas. Much more convenient than the big ferries between Batangas Port and Baletero. Speedboat is p2000.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Hi Errol,

Great info for those interested in visiting.

I've got quite a few friends in Sabang now, so I don't rely on the girly bars.

I can see your point about if you just want girls and sex, that AC would be a better option. Obviously there's a lot more choice there, but at least Sabang is a fairly decent spot by the water with a decent view. Unlike AC.

Yes, some of the freelancers have a bad rep around town. Not so sure about underage, but there a few that are notorious for ripping off drunk foreigners.

As for food options, yes, it looks like it's all geared towards the Koreans, but if you dig a little deeper, there are quite a number of good other options. It's just a matter of asking a local where you can get a good meal that's not Korean.

I basically head to Sabang on every other trip to The Phils when on business in Manila, so I've got to know the scene and a number of local girls and have found one in particular that ticks all the boxes every time. The local knowledge has been invaluable.

Not all hotels bypass asking for the girl's ID. Well not where I stay anyway. They know the GF so it's not a problem, but with a night shift change and new staff, you never know, so it's best to check in advance.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2969189]Hi G,

Errol mentioned a speedboat service that is now available. I saw a few signs for this service outside a few hotels earlier this month but it seemed to be a limited service ie: one or two a day. You do see groups of Korean divers arriving and departing all day though. I assume it's part of their accom package. Like most transport options in The Phils, online research prior can be conflicting and out of date. I still get the tuk tuk back to the port with the GF and she does a bit of shopping in PG on the way back home to Sabang after I take the Island Water fast cat (45 minutes) back to Batangas.



Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]To expand about the speedboats, there are a few running, but they are not non-stop. To take one to Sabang I think you'd need a connection on the Island to set it up / confirm time (Hotel could probably do this). I took one back from Sabang, booked it in a dive shop the day before. Departure time was 12:30 pm (they ask you to be there 15 minutes before but 5 minutes would probably suffice). Given that most hotels have noon checkout this time works pretty well, just checkout and wheel your bag down to the pier, have a coffee if you're early. Trip across takes about 30 minutes. Boat seats about 20 people although there were only 4 passengers on my boat (plus some Pinoys I think were hitchhiking). Really a hassle free way to get back from Sabang. Worth the coin in my book. There were trikes available in Berberabe Port although I had arranged a car.

I'm no expert on PG, although I love the area. I'm sure there are ways to find girls beyond the bars, but the bars are the obvious thing. On the other hand, I had more fun on my previous trip, when I brought a girl with me.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2969189]Hi G,

I think the bankas are a thing of the past in Sabang when travelling to and from Batangas. Errol mentioned a speedboat service that is now available

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. It wouldn't surprise me. The powers that be wanted to redirect traffic to the areas that they controlled.

The bancas were are pretty hairy trip sometimes even the big public ones. Several went down to join Neptune so it would take a braver man than me to do the trip in a normal speed boat. Also, if it's not door to door, what's the point??

Cheers. G.

Walking thru the archives / Christmas is coming. From a smaller town, moved to the big city, then back to the province. Happy and booby. Is there a better combination? May her flag(s) forever wave.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2969316]Thanks for the update. It wouldn't surprise me. The powers that be wanted to redirect traffic to the areas that they controlled.
The bancas were are pretty hairy trip sometimes even the big public ones. Several went down to join Neptune so it would take a braver man than me to do the trip in a normal speed boat. Also, if it's not door to door, what's the point??
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks G,

Did bankas in Bohol years ago and it was an experience.

These days to get from Sabang to Manila I usually do the Sikat option for about 1500 p.

It's in a big fastcat boat (you don't notice too much movement) and then you scramble for the bus once you hit Batangas to get to Manila.

Not door to door but works every time.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2969315] I'm no expert on PG, although I love the area. I'm sure there are ways to find girls beyond the bars, but the bars are the obvious thing. On the other hand, I had more fun on my previous trip, when I brought a girl with me.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]It sure helps Errol.

Any info we can offer to those that are curious about the area can only help.

I love PG also. Mainly because I have some really good friends in PG now and it's a nice coastal spot within easy reach of Manila.

Like any place, it takes experience to know how everything works.

We have some really good contributors on this forum who offer some great advice about travelling all over the The Phils.

Happy days _ Phil.

Hi Guys,

Just letting you know the Batangas port upgrade has gone ahead and is now quite impressive.

You no longer have to deal with all the vendors and touts before entering the port gates.

Once you're inside, you're free from hassles.

As soon as you get off a bus, or out of your transport upon arriving there, you still may have someone wanting to help you with your bags, but it's nothing like it used to be.

Just tell them to fuck off in the nicest possible way.

There's also a 7/11 opposite the port entry, so I usually stock up on stuff there for the wait and the trip to Puerto Galera and beyond.

_ Phil.

Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own. I will spend the first 3 days at the north end of the island just to vegetate to get away from people, noise, and grim after being in Jakarta.

Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970717]Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own. I will spend the first 3 days at the north end of the island just to vegetate to get away from people, noise, and grim after being in Jakarta.

Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.[/QUOTE]Nope, no islands, nice, or ugly, nearby, but Boracay itself, it supposed to be the nicest place in the PH. So why go there if you want to get away from it? The only other islands are actually close to the Caticlan, and are overrun with tour boats, because there is no other place to take the tourist's money for the island hoping scam, nothing memorable beside a cave with few hundred koreans taking pics inside.

There is a lovely beach at the north end of the island called Puka Beach, but it becomes crowded at the times when the tour boats are stopping by.

If you book any of the expensive hotels in the NW of the island you will get your peace and quiet, they are mostly deserted, and they have their own beach, because people don't want to stay too far away from the restaurants, bars, shops, and everything else that brings them to Boracay.

About the street girls: people keep writing about them here, but I didn't see any, just ladyboys lurking in the shadows. I was there 3 times last year, maybe it changed since.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970717]Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own. I will spend the first 3 days at the north end of the island just to vegetate to get away from people, noise, and grim after being in Jakarta.

Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.[/QUOTE]If you want to get away from it all go to Tablas (1. 5 hrs from Caticlan by Bangka boat) there you will find deserted white sand beaches. There are FLs on Boracay. Some on the beach, some in big hotel bars. But they have to be discrete and they aren't plentiful. Best bet might be to chat up a shop girl in the'Mall if you have some game. I've been to Boracay twice in the last year but always brought my own pussy. Grab a girl in Cebu is my suggestion.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970717]Where are the street girls standing on the beach path?[/QUOTE]Info from couple of years ago.

There's a few (not that many) on the boardwalk in Station 2. They hang out in front of that bar that has live music. It was the only bar that was crowded (it's not that big) with Fhilipinos and tourist every night. Logically, the freelancers would hang out in front of the only bar that is crowded with tourist. I walked along all 3 stations during the late evening time; that bar was the only thing happening I observed. Quality and quantity were very poor. I never went to the nightclubs.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970717]Any nice islands nearby to check out with white beach and baby blue water? Corona is too far and for a possible future trip.[/QUOTE]Nice? I would say no, but there are at least 2 islands nearby. I rented a private banca and did a tour. As you face the ocean from station 2, there is a lagoon / bay to the right of you. Then to the left of you on the other side, there are 2 islands. One island has some caves where you can pay extra and tour. You can look at Maps, and google for the info. The problem with Boracay is that the beach is the only thing that is nice.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2970773] About the street girls: people keep writing about them here, but I didn't see any, just ladyboys lurking in the shadows. I was there 3 times last year, maybe it changed since.[/QUOTE]Hi OAU. Have to agree there are many chicks with dicks, and anywhere in the Phils.

You get quite a lot around the Station 2 bars, but there's other talent lurking behind the palm trees checking you out, as I have experienced.

In Boracay, I have still relied on my trusty approach in The Phils of asking the hotel security, the chick behind the desk, the tuk tuk driver etc etc where can I find a pretty girl? Admittedly, results have been mixed, but I've always got one way or the other and had a good night.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970717]Where are the street girls standing on the beach path? I can find them once I get there but that does me no good when I need to know now to find a hotel at least semi-close to where they are. Please name 2 businesses nearby so I can at least find one on google maps. I was there twice before covid so I know they are there. Just worried what the quality, quantity, and price are now. But no way will I bring my own.[/QUOTE]Mate, you need to stay around Station 2.

Just google accommodation Boracay Station 2.

Just get friendly with a few locals and let them know what your intentions are and you'll probably get sorted. It's not as if you can walk into a bar in Boracay and make a choice.

So yes, there are still options on the beach path. Have the right friendly attitude because I've seen them dismiss obnoxious, drunk arseholes _ Phil.

I said I have been there twice before. I won't ask any more questions. I have not been there for 5+ years and still know more than you guys. From my memory it is south of d'Mall down to around OM Bar. If you see lady boys then the real girls usually stand behind them. Why? The LBs are aggressive with us and them. You do not see the girls because you are trying to fend of the POS LBs. The real girls are hard to tell that they are real girls because it is dark and you need to be up close and personal in order to tell. I will know in my first night passing by once or twice. Usually there are 2 locations with a few girls. The island is more and more family oriented so many girls keep moving and just make eye contact as they pass by. Simple. Also, just ask a few local guys. Very simple.

Two pictures but neither showing a white beach or baby blue water that I asked for.

You ask "get away from it" which I said people, noise, and grim in Jakarta. It is worse than Manila and I have been here 2 months. Being around a lot of people on a beautiful beach with perfect sunsets with a sea breeze is vastly better than smog, endless traffic, and noise from Muslim chants every night all over the city at 4:00 am for 15 minutes. I need three nights at the north end before dealing with the people bugging with tours and LBs.

Tablas Island is about 300 times larger than Boracay. No beach listed. How exactly does that help me? I can find a quiet island. FYI the Philippines has over 7000 of them.

The point was I needed someone who has been to Boracay AND to a similar white sandy beach and baby blue water. Pictures on the web are so photo shopped it is getting more and more useless.

I said I do not want to bring my own but you guys feel the need to tell me that you bring your own. I do not care what you do.

All I wanted was:

Sugar Ass Island (Magic Beach).

FL near XYZ Pizza or ABC Hotel.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971225]I said I have been there twice before. I won't ask any more questions. [/QUOTE]Promises made.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971225]I have not been there for 5+ years and still know more than you guys. [/QUOTE]We hereby crown thee [I][b]ISG Boracay King[/b][/I].

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971225]All I wanted was:

Sugar Ass Island (Magic Beach).

FL near XYZ Pizza or ABC Hotel.[/QUOTE]If only you'd been more specific. You may have been requesting information that does not exist amongst the reporting fellas. Alas this place is not a database of information, its a collection of experiences. Wading thru the rocks to find a gem is who we are. Post up some of your experiences after your trip there, and help us peons.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971225]The point was I needed someone who has been to Boracay AND to a similar white sandy beach and baby blue water. Pictures on the web are so photo shopped it is getting more and more useless.[/QUOTE]And of course, post us up some of the pics you took, not those crappy pics taken from websites.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971225]...

Two pictures but neither showing a white beach or baby blue water that I asked for.

...[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I wanted to show you, what's on the other 2 islands much closer to Caticlan than to Boracay: nothing, no white beaches, just a cave with 1000 koreans, just as I described.

Tablas Island doesn't have nothing to do with Boracay, therefore nobody here knows about it, is like a 2-3 hours boat ride away, if there is any boat willing to take you there, more likely you have to try doing that from Caticlan.
Don't be so arrogant telling everybody that you know more from 5 years ago than they do, in case you didn't figured out by now, after the scamdemic, everything has changed, in better or worst, businesses, gathering places, people habits, prices, etc. lots of previous info is obsolete or irrelevant. Yes, about 5 years ago, when everybody was saying that there is no action on Boracay, I did find a place with about 10-15 girls for rent, 1-1.5k each, on the road going to the E side, but is not here anymore, maybe it disappeared, maybe it moved, who knows. Go to 7/11 close to where the tour guides are gathering and ask for "Bob Marley" if he still around he'll point you in the right direction for a few hundert peso
The name of the bar that you're looking for is Nigi-Nigi, they have rooms, but nothing special, and very noisy.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2971298]And of course, post us up some of the pics you took, not those crappy pics taken from websites.[/QUOTE]And speaking of home-grown pics. Get out there and make someone happy.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971225]I said I have been there twice before. I won't ask any more questions. I have not been there for 5+ years and still know more than you guys.
[/QUOTE]Mate, with your experience I'd just go there and sort it out for yourself.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2971310]
The name of the bar that you're looking for is Nigi-Nigi, they have rooms, but nothing special, and very noisy.[/QUOTE]Hi OAU, I stayed at Nigi's last year and the rooms were really good and no need to screen your freelancers on the way back to your room. Yes, I agree. It's a really noisy bar on the beach with nice rooms out the back and a regular, average, loud band playing every night. I personally wouldn't classify it as a pick-up joint. Old mate will work it out. Some people want all the work done for them.

I'll be back in Boracay in March and will report tips and hints for those interested _ Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2971298]Promises made.

We hereby crown thee [I][b]ISG Boracay King[/b][/I].

If only you'd been more specific. You may have been requesting information that does not exist amongst the reporting fellas. Alas this place is not a database of information, its a collection of experiences. Wading thru the rocks to find a gem is who we are. Post up some of your experiences after your trip there, and help us peons.

And of course, post us up some of the pics you took, not those crappy pics taken from websites.[/QUOTE]You all basically did the Filipino thing that you all yourselves complain about. You go to the store asking for leather sandals. They do not have that but still waste your time by showing you the soccer shirts they do have.

I never asked for your experiences or what you you thought. Only a name of an island and the name of a beach like White Beach on Boracay Island. Also, closest businesses to where the street girls stand. Obviously not so simple.

I ask for a hamburger place in Angeles and get the names of pizza places in Subic. Thanks so much.

FYI: no questions asked.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971472]You all basically did the Filipino thing that you all yourselves complain about. You go to the store asking for leather sandals. They do not have that but still waste your time by showing you the soccer shirts they do have.

I never asked for your experiences or what you you thought. Only a name of an island and the name of a beach like White Beach on Boracay Island. Also, closest businesses to where the street girls stand. Obviously not so simple.

I ask for a hamburger place in Angeles and get the names of pizza places in Subic. Thanks so much.

FYI: no questions asked.[/QUOTE]I gave you the exact answers, no running around, probably you may not like them, but I repeat them just in case:

No nice Islands, the bar with the live band with lots of people outside is Nigi-Nigi, the peace and quiet beaches are in NW, most of the shadow crawlers are LBs, Tablas Island is very far. What can be more clearer than that?

I may be wrong? Yes, but not off topic.

Years ago when I went to Boracay, I believe it was a disco and not just a bar. It was on the main road in the center of the island. Never read any comments about it so maybe it was just a bar. I was across the street and the music was so F-ing loud there was no way I could even enter that place or even stand outside the place.

See you there PhilJoy. I will be there March 19 to roughly April 1 or 2.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2971645]Years ago when I went to Boracay, I believe it was a disco and not just a bar. It was on the main road in the center of the island. Never read any comments about it so maybe it was just a bar. I was across the street and the music was so F-ing loud there was no way I could even enter that place or even stand outside the place.

See you there PhilJoy. I will be there March 19 to roughly April 1 or 2.[/QUOTE]Yes there were 2 discos, open air ones, but they are gone, now is only one indoor, with big screens and much louder music. The thing is that is so loud, and so crowded, that you can really talk to anybody, or see anything inside. Also you'll have to pay before, to be able to see what's inside, no peeking. Mostly groups going in there. Some people gather outside, but not like it used to be at the former ones 5 years ago. The biggest crowd I saw was outside Nigi-Nigi.

I am joining a group of mostly guys scuba diving in Puerto Galera / Sabang in March. I wouldn't be surprised if others end up having late night adventures in town, but we aren't planning or discussing this ahead. I should have my own room.

Are all the hotels "Girl Friendly"? How do I find out? I can't exactly ask the hotel what their rules are on prostitutes and don't want to bar-fine a girl and then have trouble sneaking her in.

Do I have any options other than to bar fine a girl and take her back to the resort for the night? Do any of the clubs have private rooms or that sort of thing? Any hourly hotels?

I've been hearing bar fine prices around 5000 php. Does this typically include the cost of service? Or is this only money for the bar and the girl gets paid separately? If I am paying a girl separately, what is a fair price? From what I've read, most of the action is in the clubs. Should I consider street walkers?

[QUOTE=SRob0;2974657]I am joining a group of mostly guys scuba diving in Puerto Galera / Sabang in March. I wouldn't be surprised if others end up having late night adventures in town, but we aren't planning or discussing this ahead. I should have my own room.

Are all the hotels "Girl Friendly"? How do I find out? I can't exactly ask the hotel what their rules are on prostitutes and don't want to bar-fine a girl and then have trouble sneaking her in.

Do I have any options other than to bar fine a girl and take her back to the resort for the night? Do any of the clubs have private rooms or that sort of thing? Any hourly hotels?

I've been hearing bar fine prices around 5000 php. Does this typically include the cost of service? Or is this only money for the bar and the girl gets paid separately? If I am paying a girl separately, what is a fair price? From what I've read, most of the action is in the clubs. Should I consider street walkers?[/QUOTE]I have been going to Puerto Galera / Sabang for a number of years for diving which is the main reason for going there and also enjoying the nightlife. There are a number of girl bars / clubs which should keep you entertained. But Sabang is not Angeles City, as it is much smaller and therefore less choice of bars and girls. In answer to your questions:

1. You should have no trouble with the main hotels / diving resorts in bringing a girl back for the night. As far as I know, there are no hourly-rate hotels in Sabang.

2. The clubs in Sabang don't have private rooms, so its all take-out.

3. You are right the main action is in the bars. In Sabang, unlike Makati, the bar fine (5000 php) includes the service of the girl for LT. I advise you check with the girl's mamasan that the girl is all night (LT) and what's included e. G. BJ, BBBJ. To avoid any disappoint. If the girl does a good job then you can give her a tip (500 php) as she only gets half the bar fine (2500 php) and the bar keeps the rest.

4. There are street-walkers later at night along the recently built sea wall road. If you get one, take care to lock away your valuables in your room. Remember some street girls are there because the bars do not hire them as they caused trouble in the past, don't have ID, or only fake ID. So you are safer getting a girl from the bar if you are a first-timer in Sabang.

I hope this helps. I will be going to Sabang / Puerto Galera in February, so I will file a FR on the bars as things do change there.

[QUOTE=SRob0;2974657]I am joining a group of mostly guys scuba diving in Puerto Galera / Sabang in March. I wouldn't be surprised if others end up having late night adventures in town, but we aren't planning or discussing this ahead. I should have my own room.

Are all the hotels "Girl Friendly"? How do I find out? I can't exactly ask the hotel what their rules are on prostitutes and don't want to bar-fine a girl and then have trouble sneaking her in.

Do I have any options other than to bar fine a girl and take her back to the resort for the night? Do any of the clubs have private rooms or that sort of thing? Any hourly hotels?

I've been hearing bar fine prices around 5000 php. Does this typically include the cost of service? Or is this only money for the bar and the girl gets paid separately? If I am paying a girl separately, what is a fair price? From what I've read, most of the action is in the clubs. Should I consider street walkers?[/QUOTE]Hi Mate,

If you book your room for two (which shouldn't cost any more) you shouldn't have an issue. You'll just have to check her in as your partner and she'll need to show them her ID.

But then again, I can't guarantee what the hotel staff will assume on the night. Best to tip the security guy 500 p when you first get there to help you out with unlimited access.

Other than bar fines, you'd probably have to know local girls in advance.

There are freelancers on the new boardwalk, but be wary of them. Some work in teams offering a two girl experience. From reports, while you're fucking one, the other will be stealing all your stuff.

There are a pack of Lady Boys that hang out after a few beers at Izakaya Palm bar and restaurant. Don't go near them. My Sabang GF knows some of them and their plan is to get any foreigner wasted and then steal what they can.

Bar fines: You pay the mama and then pay the girl.

Don't rip them off.

Although I don't bar fine and have my regular girls in Sabang, I hear what the going rates are and 5000 sounds right.

My tip is, get to know a few locals when you're there, keep in touch, and then on your next visit, deal directly with them and eliminate the bar fines and Lady Drinks. To an extent.

Despite the somewhat negative feedback, I've always had a great time in Sabang _ Phil.

Hello everybody.

I am coming in Philippine from Friday 18th of April till Saturday 3rd of May.

I know is not the best time to look for girls, but these are my holydays. .

I know FIlippine girls live town during that time.

In your wiew in Makati there are someones living that remain and keep working? (obvioulsy Esatern day exclude).

And, more important question, around when a right quantity of girls be back to work in Sabang? Around 25th of April or when?

Thanks in advance for any useful reply. When girls are not here I will go to some island for the sea (Boracay or Palawan).

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2974779]Hi Mate,

If you book your room for two (which shouldn't cost any more) you shouldn't have an issue. You'll just have to check her in as your partner and she'll need to show them her ID.

But then again, I can't guarantee what the hotel staff will assume on the night. Best to tip the security guy 500 p when you first get there to help you out with unlimited access.

Other than bar fines, you'd probably have to know local girls in advance.

There are freelancers on the new boardwalk, but be wary of them. Some work in teams offering a two girl experience. From reports, while you're fucking one, the other will be stealing all your stuff.

There are a pack of Lady Boys that hang out after a few beers at Izakaya Palm bar and restaurant. Don't go near them. My Sabang GF knows some of them and their plan is to get any foreigner wasted and then steal what they can.

Bar fines: You pay the mama and then pay the girl.

Don't rip them off.

Although I don't bar fine and have my regular girls in Sabang, I hear what the going rates are and 5000 sounds right.

My tip is, get to know a few locals when you're there, keep in touch, and then on your next visit, deal directly with them and eliminate the bar fines and Lady Drinks. To an extent.

Despite the somewhat negative feedback, I've always had a great time in Sabang _ Phil.[/QUOTE]You are saying on my first trip, I have to go without sex? Or that the 500 security guard tip should work for someone I pick up after the first night?

Are you saying I need 10,000 php per night? 5000 for the lady + 5000 for the bar? I don't want to rip anyone off, but that seems expensive.

How did you meet your regular girls? Were they dancing in a bar and you bar fined them?

[QUOTE=SRob0;2974856]You are saying on my first trip, I have to go without sex? Or that the 500 security guard tip should work for someone I pick up after the first night?

Are you saying I need 10,000 php per night? 5000 for the lady + 5000 for the bar? I don't want to rip anyone off, but that seems expensive.

How did you meet your regular girls? Were they dancing in a bar and you bar fined them?[/QUOTE]It is 5000 in total, as I said in my post. 2500 bar and 2500 girl. Some bars you pay the 5000 upfront and then tip the girl if she is good at the end, other bars have different rules Talk to the Mamasan and make sure the arrangement is all agreed with the girl to avoid any confusion. Depending on where you stay you may not need to tip security. FYI, if you are in Makati (P. Burgos Street bars) then the Barfine is usually 4 k plus what you agree to pay the girl ST or LT (4 k to 8 k), so its cheaper in Sabang.

[QUOTE=SRob0;2974856]You are saying on my first trip, I have to go without sex? Or that the 500 security guard tip should work for someone I pick up after the first night?

Are you saying I need 10,000 php per night? 5000 for the lady + 5000 for the bar? I don't want to rip anyone off, but that seems expensive.

How did you meet your regular girls? Were they dancing in a bar and you bar fined them?[/QUOTE]Hi Mate,

No, you'll get sex!

The girl bars will see to that.

I tip the security guys in many Phils hotels because then they look after you. Quite often, and on many occasions, they've lined up girls for me. Just make sure the room you book is for two people.

And no, it won't be 10,000.

In Sabang, you pay the bar a percentage and then pay the girl the rest when you're with her.

When it comes to bar girls in the Phils, Sabang is one of the cheaper options.

In many other places in The Phil's you pay everything to the bar, but the girls will usually ask for a tip. Or whatever money they can get out of you.

My regular girls haven't been bar fines. I don't really bar fine girls when I don't have to.

They're local girls who work in regular bars or restaurants.

I've just got to know them really well over the years and don't have to worry about paying for it. Until you factor in meals, drinks, the odd hairstyling appointment etc.

Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2975037]

In Sabang, you pay the bar a percentage and then pay the girl the rest when you're with her.

When it comes to bar girls in the Phils, Sabang is one of the cheaper options.

In many other places in The Phil's you pay everything to the bar, but the girls will usually ask for a tip. Or whatever money they can get out of you.

[/QUOTE]It should be half, ie 2500, paid in the bar before she leaves then the remaining 2500 in the morning. Having said that, girls are getting more mercenary so a / those with NEWBIE stamped prominently on their forehead will be asked to pay 100% up front and, be / sadly, one shot runners are becoming more common (previously it was unheard of).

Expect the usual Korean tricks of emptying a bar of the best lookers 2 minutes after opening time and grossly over paying for under performance.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2974854]Hello everybody.

I am coming in Philippine from Friday 18th of April till Saturday 3rd of May.

I know is not the best time to look for girls, but these are my holydays. .

I know FIlippine girls live town during that time.

In your wiew in Makati there are someones living that remain and keep working? (obvioulsy Esatern day exclude).

And, more important question, around when a right quantity of girls be back to work in Sabang? Around 25th of April or when?

Thanks in advance for any useful reply. When girls are not here I will go to some island for the sea (Boracay or Palawan).[/QUOTE]Manila is a very big city, there will be no shortage of girls needing money. Most will be on sies such as Tan Tan or Pina love.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2975068]It should be half, ie 2500, paid in the bar before she leaves then the remaining 2500 in the morning. Having said that, girls are getting more mercenary so a / those with NEWBIE stamped prominently on their forehead will be asked to pay 100% up front and, be / sadly, one shot runners are becoming more common (previously it was unheard of).

Expect the usual Korean tricks of emptying a bar of the best lookers 2 minutes after opening time and grossly over paying for under performance.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the elaboration G.

You've pretty much 'nailed' the situation.

_ Phil.

Itty bitty sub-5' thang needs a pee-nanshal for her upcoming school needs. Guess who was there to slip something into her. . . . purse. . .

I normally visit one of Butuan City's music clubs, videokes, or strip clubs 1-2 times per week and casually make a pass driving around the downtown streetwalker corners prior to arrival and after leaving for home.

On Thursday afternoon, I passed an old acquaintance while walking on a downtown Butuan City sidewalk who sometimes operates as a "bugaw", or pimp of street girls. They operate in the late evenings on the streets behind the Saint Joseph Institute of Technology (SJIT) and also on the north side of Guingona Park, known informally as "The Plaza". As an inquisitive and friendly guy, I invited her to lunch at a nearby small eatery so I could pump her for information.

Since I've returned from my "Escape the Philippines' Christmas Season Insanity" trip in late December, I've noticed the SJIT area has been mostly deserted. Also, I haven't seen any obvious street-standers at the plaza for several months.

She says that about a week before Christmas, local law enforcement conducted a large SWAT sweep of the SJIT area. 8 pimps were arrested and illegal drugs were found on many, while 13 girls were "rescued" and told to stay away. Purveyors have been slow to return. A similar sweep was conducted at the plaza a couple of months ago, and late-night patrols have frequently been operating to prevent restarts.

Thursday night, I left one of the area's hostess videoke bars at 1 am. While driving down the mostly deserted (R.) Calo Street toward the highway, I stopped to talk to a short, thin, and dark-skinned girl standing in the shadows under a building overhang with no pimp nearby. 24 years old and fairly pretty to the eyes of this semi-drunk old guy. Definitely hesitant and wary of dealing with a foreigner, but financially desperate enough to take a chance on a late rainy night.

Her price was P700, which is well under the normal P1000-1500 prices of the pimped girls (of which P300-500 is typically paid to the overseer). I showed her my condom and promised nothing bad would happen to her, so she agreed to go with me to a nearby P250 lodge. Service was "meh", but it got the job done.

Yeah, I could make better "arrangements" if I went online and hunted for providers or exchanged numbers with previous conquests. But I hate having my phone continuously blown up with requests and I'm a bit of a spontaneous guy who only wants to "get it out, get it up, get it in, then get away". Oh well, I'm assuming things will revert back to normal soon.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2978193]

Her price was P700, which is well under the normal P1000-1500 prices of the pimped girls (of which P300-500 is typically paid to the overseer). I showed her my condom and promised nothing bad would happen to her, so she agreed to go with me to a nearby P250 lodge. Service was "meh", but it got the job done.

[/QUOTE]Prices away from the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously low. I definitely got the impression that girls frequently take what ever they are given by local guys and sometimes that's nothing at all. I had a couple that were stunned when, through no fault of their own, I asked them to leave early with full pay or even tipped them after a job well done.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2978193]I normally visit one of Butuan City's music clubs, videokes, or strip clubs 1-2 times per week and casually make a pass driving around the downtown streetwalker corners prior to arrival and after leaving for home.[/QUOTE]KEJ: Clean out thy In Box.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2978232]KEJ: Clean out thy In Box.[/QUOTE]Inbox is cleaned and sanitized, certified cootie-free. Never knew there was a message limit, thanks for the nudge.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2978214]Prices away from the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously low. I definitely got the impression that girls frequently take what ever they are given by local guys and sometimes that's nothing at all. I had a couple that were stunned when, through no fault of their own, I asked them to leave early with full pay or even tipped them after a job well done.[/QUOTE]I concur. But as someone who lives in "the province", my perspective is that prices in the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously high.

I support the free-market system where a bar and / or a girl can charge whatever prices they wish. And I support the denial system where a man can decline to pay said prices and either negotiate a lower fare or conduct research online to search for places where they can potentially find a better deal.

Burgos Street bars in Makati? Nah, I'm a retired guy who's not paying those prices when all I'm looking for is fast relief.

P3000 for short time at the Midnight Haven bar (formerly LA Cafe) in the Ermita district of Manila? I can always wait until the next morning / afternoon when I can ride the LRT to the Carriedo Station and find a decent looking P1000 streetwalker along Rizal Avenue. Or I can walk further and choose a young and fairly cute sidewalk stander in front of the Isetan Store on Recto Avenue and go to a Sogo Hotel after stopping at 7-11 for condoms.

If you want Filipino prices, you have to go where there are only Filipino customers.

I've sat and had in-depth chats with plenty of local bar girls, not only in Butuan but also the cities of Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Tagum, and Surigao. It's amazing how few have worked in bars outside of Mindanao and are not very "worldly". Most have very little experience dealing with foreign men, so they haven't been exposed to the free-spending "two week millionaires" that invade the Angeles City and Makati clubs.

Foreigners are comparatively scarce and considered a bit exotic in Mindanao. It attracts a much higher percentage of men in or looking for committed relationships rather than the touristy horndogs. Therefore, I most often receive exemplary service from both freelancer girls and the dancers I barfine.

I'm an old guy. I never have difficulty developing an erection but sometimes I am unable to "pull the trigger". Mindanao girls tend to feel like it's their fault that I'm not able to climax. They will continue to do everything in their power to finish the job. After assuring them the fault lies with me and not with them, they will continue to ask, "Are you sure, sir?".

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2978421]I concur. But as someone who lives in "the province", my perspective is that prices in the foreigner haunts can get ridiculously high.

Burgos Street bars in Makati? Nah, I'm a retired guy who's not paying those prices when all I'm looking for is fast relief.

If you want Filipino prices, you have to go where there are only Filipino customers.

Foreigners are comparatively scarce and considered a bit exotic in Mindanao. It attracts a much higher percentage of men in or looking for committed relationships rather than the touristy horndogs. Therefore, I most often receive exemplary service from both freelancer girls and the dancers I barfine.

I'm an old guy. I never have difficulty developing an erection but sometimes I am unable to "pull the trigger". Mindanao girls tend to feel like it's their fault that I'm not able to climax. They will continue to do everything in their power to finish the job. After assuring them the fault lies with me and not with them, they will continue to ask, "Are you sure, sir?".[/QUOTE]Joe,

You have raised some valid and interesting points:

Are provincial girls cheap or are city girls expensive? Previously, when girls' next best alternative was 200 p a day taking in laundry, it was the latter. Now, with IG and LDR Romeo's, high barfines are required just to keep girls turning up for work. I know several girls who dropped out of the bar scene as it was literally costing them money.

Horses for courses. Burgos was never intended as a cheap pump and run destination. Much more a foreigner friendly place for businessmen or weekend millionaires where time and dependability are much higher drivers than unit cost. Yes, times are changing there too but Burgos bars and girls offer a lot more than an average overpass hooker.

Definitely. We all know that the best way to tell if a pina is lying is to check if her lips are moving but I'm sure that I was the only foreigner many of my last trip's girls had met or slept with. Trust me, that's not because of my ravishing good looks or magnetic charm but because I was going to places away from the regular monger trail, where girls outnumbered white guys by a big margin. Note though that there were a couple of times where being a whitie actually scared girls away rather than attracted them.

Again, I totally agree. I have a few girls who specialise in getting the job done regardless of how old and tired I may be. I often swing by towards the end of a trip. They come in very handy.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2978441]Joe,

You have raised some valid and interesting points:

Are provincial girls cheap or are city girls expensive? Previously, when girls' next best alternative was 200 p a day taking in laundry, it was the latter. Now, with IG and LDR Romeo's, high barfines are required just to keep girls turning up for work. I know several girls who dropped out of the bar scene as it was literally costing them money.

Horses for courses. Burgos was never intended as a cheap pump and run destination. Much more a foreigner friendly place for businessmen or weekend millionaires where time and dependability are much higher drivers than unit cost. Yes, times are changing there too but Burgos bars and girls offer a lot more than an average overpass hooker.

Definitely. We all know that the best way to tell if a pina is lying is to check if her lips are moving but I'm sure that I was the only foreigner many of my last trip's girls had met or slept with. Trust me, that's not because of my ravishing good looks or magnetic charm but because I was going to places away from the regular monger trail, where girls outnumbered white guys by a big margin. Note though that there were a couple of times where being a whitie actually scared girls away rather than attracted them.

Again, I totally agree. I have a few girls who specialise in getting the job done regardless of how old and tired I may be. I often swing by towards the end of a trip. They come in very handy.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I could write a dissertation on this interesting subject, but I'll refrain.

In Philippine girlie clubs, there are three pricing components: Customer drinks, ladies' drinks (LD's), and the Early Release Fee (bar fine).

Last week I returned from a first-time trip to Angeles City, where an old buddy took me to several of his "old retired white man girlie clubs" on Perimeter Road.

I was impressed by the low prices for beverages. A mere P75 for customer beers and P200-250 for ladies' drinks. Bargains compared to the higher prices in Mindanao strip clubs (P120-200 customer drinks and P300-500 for ladies' drinks). Prices for LD's are even higher at the Hot Legs club in Davao City, at P600. Two years ago, I was quoted P750 at one of the Divisoria clubs in Cagayan de Oro!

But I was unprepared for the not-so-subtle pressure exerted by several AC girls to take them out for either short-time or long-time bar-fine outings, at P3500 and up.

I surmise that girls in AC apparently receive the bulk of their earnings through bar fines, while girls in Mindanao clubs secure it through increased commissions from higher LD prices.

Why the difference in bar fine attitudes? Because customers in Mindanao bars are generally not interested in bar-fining and the dancers are generally not interested in being bar-fined.

Why? Plenty of reasons, the biggest of which is the customers are almost exclusively Filipino. Conversations indicate that many Filipino clients don't treat them with respect and fear potential abuse. I'm guessing foreigner men generally behave pretty well because none of us want to be accused and end up incarcerated.

Also, neither the men nor the women want to be spotted by someone who will spread the word to people in their hometowns via the Coconut Telegraph. Most of the Mindanao dancers hail from other places within the island. There are few imports from Luzon or the Visayas region. Being seen and reported on is a real fear among them.

It's rare to see a solitary Pinoy sitting at a Mindanao strip club. The guys always arrive in groups (called the Barkada). Strip clubs for them are as much a social event as an erotic one. They hang out with their buds and sometimes will buy a drink or two for a couple of the gals as they chat at the table and receive their customary over-the-pants cock or thigh rubbing.

If a Pinoy wants to meet up and "interact" with a dancer, they usually ask for and receive her phone number and go to a short-time hotel off the clock, or they pay for use of the club's "VIP room", the price of which ranges between P2000-2500 and includes a certain number of customer and ladies' drinks. Added tips for added services, of course.

So how does this factor into an urban versus rural divide in girl pricing? I'm not sure if it's more of a geographical thing as it is a venue setting thing.

We all rank a woman's looks on a scale of 1-10. Butuan City streetwalkers (who I would rank between 2-6) normally cost P1,000-1,500 (including pimp charges).

Last week, I chatted with two daytime streetwalkers in the Cubao section of Quezon City (QC), standing along EDSA in front of the Farmer's Plaza Mall. I'd give one a 3 and the other a 5. Each wanted P1,000 for their services. Same pricing over in the Carriedo section of Manila.

When you factor in that the daily minimum wage in Butuan is around P400/ day and in QC is around P600/ day, Metro Manila's middling streetwalkers are value-priced compared to similar gals in Butuan City.

As far as pricing for high quality women in Makati clubs and in online venues? Quality ain't cheap anymore. Thanks to the WWW, attractive women who are media-savvy know their worth and there's plenty of money being thrown at them by local and foreign men in an increasingly wealthy country (at least for the upper 20% of earners).

The advantage of living in farflung areas is there are still fairly attractive women who are too lazy or not interested in electronically engaging the outside world to find financial sponsorships. But they are getting increasingly harder to find down here.

After our fun time in A. See. We headed off to Boracay. So many mixed reviews of this place I had to see for myself. My buddy and myself had a great time there even though we didn't pull anything. Plenty of opportunities but after having the young hotties in A. See. It was had to adjust to the girls of Boracay. I felt like this was a true paradise. I think the hotel we stayed at contributed to that feeling. We were treated very well at the hotel and just about everywhere we went. Restaurants were all good and this would be a good romantic getaway with a girlfriend or someone special.

As far as talent, just about everytime we came out of a restaurant there would be a girl or lb eyeing us and giving us a smile. This was just walking on the main strip. The only regret I had was not stopping to talk to them about price or if they had a younger friend to keep us entertained. So on that front I failed this board. The location of our hotel was zone 2 or whatever they call it.

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2978463]
Last week, I chatted with two daytime streetwalkers in the Cubao section of Quezon City (QC), standing along EDSA in front of the Farmer's Plaza Mall. I'd give one a 3 and the other a 5. Each wanted P1,000 for their services. Same pricing over in the Carriedo section of Manila.

[/QUOTE]I will be soon the first time in the Philies and in Makati: Are there places with streetwalkers with these prices, away from Burgos St, in Makati?

[QUOTE=KeenEyeJoe1;2978463]
Also, neither the men nor the women want to be spotted by someone who will spread the word to people in their hometowns via the Coconut Telegraph. Most of the Mindanao dancers hail from other places within the island. There are few imports from Luzon or the Visayas region. Being seen and reported on is a real fear among them.
[/QUOTE]In my visit to Surigao City I separately had two university girls that preferred to come directly to my hotel rather than meet at a coffee shop. Both girls absolute stunners that were worried about being seen. After this first visit they were happy to go around together to malls and foods.

Provincial girls in their home towns are naturally going to be more cautious.

Isn't it fun!

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2979237]Plenty of opportunities but after having the young hotties in A. See. It was had to adjust to the girls of Boracay. I felt like this was a true paradise. Restaurants were all good and this would be a good romantic getaway with a girlfriend or someone special.

As far as talent, just about every time we came out of a restaurant there would be a girl or lb eyeing us and giving us a smile. This was just walking on the main strip.[/QUOTE]Good observation Quack.

And it's not all laid on for you in Boracay. You have to do your own groundwork to score something decent, but I've never walked away from there without some action.

For me it's a bit of an escape from Manila and the big cities between business stuff and it's a great place to take your BYO girl.

Although it's hyped up to be one of the most beautiful islands in the world, there's a lot of better options out there on this earth, if a beautiful island is all you want. But if you want some local action, there's a better chance of finding it here as opposed to other islands at the top of the list.

Putting it simply, if you're beachside, yes it's lovely. However Boracay's not pretty in parts.

Having said that, I'll still be going there to break up my next business trip in March.

The plan is to get some good local contact details this time around.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=ShaggerAu;2979494]In my visit to Surigao City I separately had two university girls that preferred to come directly to my hotel rather than meet at a coffee shop. Both girls absolute stunners that were worried about being seen. After this first visit they were happy to go around together to malls and foods.

Provincial girls in their home towns are naturally going to be more cautious.

Isn't it fun![/QUOTE]Did you meet them online or strike up a conversation face to face?

I'd agree many college girls in the Jollie Bee, Greenwich Pizza or McDo areas were gorgeous. However none wanted to have anything to do with me when they found out I wasn't single back home.

Well done. G.

Hi Guys,

Hope everyone is having a good time. I know I will be in about two weeks from now.

Just wondering if any of our well travelled friends have done Leyte or Panay?

Obviously not for your typical bar action etc.

I may have the option of travelling there mid year for work options.

I'll try and do some research when I'm back in The Phils next month, but any info from those that have been on 'the ground' there previously would be appreciated _ Phil.

Hi Folks,

First time to Phils and could use some advice. We are a group of 4 friends that meet up once a year to get together and get some mongering in while we are at it. All of us come from large cities around the world so we usually enjoy laid back beach town scenarios more than city nightlife. We fly into Manila late March and will be there for 6 days 5 nights. I'm thinking we spend a couple of days in Manila and 3 in a beach town. The two that I came up with are Sabang / white beach and Boracay. Any advice on which would be best for a combo relaxation / get together / mongering destination? We've been to Pattaya and Phuket several times and always have a good time. We don't mind putting some work in. I'll get tinder and PL going and start getting out there. We all prefer multiple short time action over long time since main point is us catching up with each other. Could some of you wise folks please advice in which will be most efficient given our limited time. Appreciate your help and happy mongering. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Wadesi;2984966]Hi Folks,

First time to Phils and could use some advice. We are a group of 4 friends that meet up once a year to get together and get some mongering in while we are at it. All of us come from large cities around the world so we usually enjoy laid back beach town scenarios more than city nightlife. We fly into Manila late March and will be there for 6 days 5 nights. I'm thinking we spend a couple of days in Manila and 3 in a beach town.[/QUOTE]Hi Wadesi,

If you're in The Phils for a short time and mongering is your plan, go for Sabang.

It's close to Manila and fairly easy to get to.

Sure, Boracay's a better beachside location, but Sabang is where the sex is at, between the two options.

You'll see many previous observations in this thread detailing the two.

Basically Sabang is a diving destination without a beach as such, but it does have a lively pay for play scene. It's waterfront and the new boardwalk around the bay has enhanced it compared to a few years ago.

White Beach in the Sabang area is mainly geared for local Filipinos out of Manila for a get-away location without the naughtiness of Sabang. And on my last visit was pretty tired looking.

Although it doesn't live up to the scenic hype online as being one of the most beautiful islands in the world, Boracay is very nice and has a party atmosphere at night.

You'll basically need to hit the nightclubs and hope for the best, or, hope that the freelancers hanging out on the beach don't have a pair of testicles pre-op.

Whilst both locations are quite scenic, Sabang is about sex after dark. Just get in before the Koreans.

(I'll report more on Boracay soon as I'm returning for a few days on my next visit to The Phils in March).

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2985068]Hi Wadesi,

If you're in The Phils for a short time and mongering is your plan, go for Sabang.

It's close to Manila and fairly easy to get to.

Sure, Boracay's a better beachside location, but Sabang is where the sex is at, between the two options.

You'll see many previous observations in this thread detailing the two.

Basically Sabang is a diving destination without a beach as such, but it does have a lively pay for play scene. It's waterfront and the new boardwalk around the bay has enhanced it compared to a few years ago.

White Beach in the Sabang area is mainly geared for local Filipinos out of Manila for a get-away location without the naughtiness of Sabang. And on my last visit was pretty tired looking.

Although it doesn't live up to the scenic hype online as being one of the most beautiful islands in the world, Boracay is very nice and has a party atmosphere at night.

You'll basically need to hit the nightclubs and hope for the best, or, hope that the freelancers hanging out on the beach don't have a pair of testicles pre-op.

Whilst both locations are quite scenic, Sabang is about sex after dark. Just get in before the Koreans.

(I'll report more on Boracay soon as I'm returning for a few days on my next visit to The Phils in March).

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Wow, Great information! Appreciate the insight. Looks like Sabang would be a good place to chill along the water and relax with a few drinks then get naughty afterwards. From what I've been reading we can prob wait until a few weeks out to finalize. Look forward to hearing your report on Boracay. Cheers!

Hey, can you recommend some cheap guste-friendly hotels in el nido and boracay?

Thanks.

Hi guys,

So as I mentioned a while back, I was heading to Subic but would be 'stationed' in the Freeport Zone due to work commitments, and as it turns out, some unexpected emergency dental procedure tomorrow.

Well, I landed in MNL last night and rode the Victory Liner here today from Pasay without any issues.

It's 20 years since I'd been here, but I've still yet ventured to the scene at Barretto, which I hope to take a look at later this week.

As for now I'm pretty much confined to the Freeport Zone. And it really hasn't changed too much over the years. Old buildings that should have been flattened a long time ago, a shitty beachfront compared to others, but it does seem to be more lively these days.

And without any expectations on the action front, this evening I went to the flash mall to stock up on supplies (and a fair bit of Tanduay from a 7-11 in case a tooth is removed tomorrow) and subtly asked my friendly taxi driver if there were any nice girls in the Freeport Zone?

So within an hour, I had a friend of his niece in the room and sharing the first glass of rhum. And then quite a bit more.

Don't you just love it when a girl that was at mass earlier today asking for her sins to be forgiven, was now asking you if you'd like to throw it up her arse / ass?

I declined the back door action. My three month wait for some Filipina pussy was at the forefront of my mind.

The cost involved: About 500 p in rhum and coke and 2000 p for about two hours play plus a 500 p tip for the girl and the taxi driver.

The reward: The two hours play (three shots) and I now have her as a contact in Whatsapp for future sessions.

The moral: You never know where it's going to come from, but it helps to think outside the box and ask a few questions.

Just my (very recent) experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2986827]

It's 20 years since I'd been here, but I've still yet ventured to the scene at Barretto, which I hope to take a look at later this week.[/QUOTE]Phil's back at it, redefining the friends and family program. 😁.

Barretto can be fun. I guess you know it's a looooong walk from one end to the other. Probably similar in length to Fields and Perimeter combined. Best to concentrate in one end one night then the other the next. The sidewalks can be brutal so be careful or you may be back to the doc for a second visit. Lots of fun girls but I've heard that, like everywhere recently, the prices have taken a jump.

I'm sure you will enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2986827]As for now I'm pretty much confined to the Freeport Zone.
[/QUOTE]Don't you just love it when the situation makes it much more challenging. I will assume that you can easily get into Olongapo town and play there.

Hi Guys,

I know I may have asked this before, but I think I was asking about freelancers before in Barretto.

Anyway I've searched my old posts without an answer. Forgive me if I have missed something.

Does anyone know if there's any daytime action there, or what time the bars kick-off?

Work's a pain in the ass / arse, as I have these early 830 meetings in the Freeport Zone where I'm staying, and I don't want to drag a girl back here for the night and party if I have to kick her out super early and actually be in some shape looking professional.

If checked available hotels in Barretto and The Pub and a few others are really cheap and have a few rooms available this week, so I may as well pay the daily rate for a room, have some fun and get back to the Freeport Zone before midnight.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, followed up by a report back _ Phil.

P.S. The dental work's been postponed until Wednesday, so I'm playing in the mean time.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2987030]Hi Guys,
I know I may have asked this before, but I think I was asking about freelancers before in Barretto.
[/QUOTE]Oh shit.

Sorry guys, just realized I'd posted all the latest in the 'Other Areas' thread rather than the Subic specific thread.

No wonder I was looking in the wrong places for some previous info and posts.

When you're on the 'hunt' sometimes it's matter over mind.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=Adriano888;2986032]Hey, can you recommend some cheap guste-friendly hotels in el nido and boracay?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hi Adriano,

There's quite a few about in Boracay but you may have to elaborate.

What is your idea of cheap?

And how do you plan to find your 'guest' whilst there?

It can be quite tricky, but definitely not impossible.

Or are you taking your own guest there?

The first step is always to book a room for two adults.

It generally never costs anymore as you're basically booking the room.

The girl, or stray Bakla you hook up with unexpectedly and unknowingly after vast amounts of who knows what, will almost always have to present ID and check in, no matter the time of night.

Basically, if they're 'known' to hotel security and staff and have caused issues in the past, you'll be shit out of luck and will be sleeping alone.

Hope this helps_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2987030]

Does anyone know if there's any daytime action there, or what time the bars kick-off?

[/QUOTE]While there aren't a lot of streetwalker freelancers, you can definitely get laid during the day. Lots of online activity or you could do your usual friends of friends. Not a lot of daytime activity in the bars.

The Pub is very basic but clean, friendly and a good base for the far end of town. The super budget rooms don't have aircon

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2987030]Hi Guys,

I know I may have asked this before, but I think I was asking about freelancers before in Barretto.

Anyway I've searched my old posts without an answer. Forgive me if I have missed something.

Does anyone know if there's any daytime action there, or what time the bars kick-off?

Work's a pain in the ass / arse, as I have these early 830 meetings in the Freeport Zone where I'm staying, and I don't want to drag a girl back here for the night and party if I have to kick her out super early and actually be in some shape looking professional.

If checked available hotels in Barretto and The Pub and a few others are really cheap and have a few rooms available this week, so I may as well pay the daily rate for a room, have some fun and get back to the Freeport Zone before midnight.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, followed up by a report back _ Phil.

P.S. The dental work's been postponed until Wednesday, so I'm playing in the mean time.[/QUOTE]A good bang for the buck is the Rooftop Hotel above the Coffee Shop. 1,395 PHP for the standard room with good aircon and free water dispensers on all floors. Easy in and out for guests plus the food there is great.

As for daytime action the girls show up at the Arizona at 2 PM, the Gentlemans bar around 2 PM, everywhere else around 6 to 7 PM. Freelancers are very few in Barretto. Cheapest ST is 3 K BF. Most places now allow the girl to et her own rate and they pay a standard BF usually 1,500 to the bar.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2987218]Most places now allow the girl to et her own rate and they pay a standard BF usually 1,500 to the bar.[/QUOTE]The worst idea ever*. Subic was set barfine then a modest tip in the morning to say thanks and for a Jeepney. The day after decide your own fees every girl decided she was worth a million dollars. A few also decided they only do ST too.

The Arizona is indeed a good watering hole. Giros aren't the prettiest but there may be diamond in the rough and they know how to please.

Enjoy. G.

*I mean the change to the girls deciding their own BF, not Beavis' suggestion. 😁.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2987218]A good bang for the buck is the Rooftop Hotel above the Coffee Shop. 1,395 PHP for the standard room with good aircon and free water dispensers on all floors. Easy in and out for guests plus the food there is great. As for daytime action the girls show up at the Arizona at 2 PM, the Gentlemans bar around 2 PM, everywhere else around 6 to 7 PM. Freelancers are very few in Barretto. Cheapest ST is 3 K BF. Most places now allow the girl to et her own rate and they pay a standard BF usually 1,500 to the bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2987110]While there aren't a lot of streetwalker freelancers, you can definitely get laid during the day. Lots of online activity or you could do your usual friends of friends. Not a lot of daytime activity in the bars. The Pub is very basic but clean, friendly and a good base for the far end of town. The super budget rooms don't have aircon[/QUOTE]Thanks Beavis & G, really appreciate the info but I headed off to Barretto before your info came in. I'll keep it up my sleeve for next time.

Okay, so I'm getting a tooth ripped out tomorrow, and although I wasn't in the mood for much today, I decided to check out the Barretto scene for the first time never-the-less.

I booked a really cheap room online at The Pub, only because I didn't know what would happen, and for a back-up plan for a day trip. And you're right G, but I can see how the place can serve a purpose. I normally pay everything in cash but decided to put this on a card as I wanted to save any cash for any potential girls. The girl behind the desk got pissed when I asked why she wasn't doing the card transaction in front of me, but behind a printer and then told me the card was declined. Warning signs?

Anyway, I decided to go to the first available bar close by to have a beer at 2 pm to numb some pain. Johansson's Swedish bar a few doors down did the trick. It was a perfect way to spend the afternoon people watching and the bar girl was lovely. While there, I also hooked onto Pina Love for the first time. I don't know how you guys do it. The fucking phone hasn't stopped pinging ever since. I'm not too sure I'd have the time to devote to it, with girls messaging you from the ass end of islands I've never heard of and others instantly hitting you up for cash because they can't breathe properly.

Anyway once daylight subsided, the place came alive. I decided I just wasn't up to playing the game tonight, but thought I've have a good look around anyway before heading back to the Freeport Zone.

I can really see how Subic can appeal, as opposed to Angeles and Makati. And as you'd know, I'm not a typical bar guy, but I never say never. I like that everything's not so concentrated in one relatively small strip as opposed to Walking Street or Burgos. Subic seems to be one long strip of chaos where the options are spread out. If you're into sex with a decent sea view, then Sabang has always been my go to, but it is very limited compared to the rest. And it gets somewhat problematic, when I'm doing local contacts there and they are a very tight community.

So although I didn't dip the wick there today, at least I got a taste of it. If I was stuck in the Freeport Zone again with work, I'd definitely base myself in Barretto and pay the 150 p (say 200 p with tip) taxi fare back and forth and try and behave myself or play up early in the night before work tomorrow. The hardest part out 'Subic' appears to be crossing the fucking highway to get to the other side.

Okay, hope that helps someone. I'm about to hit the Tanduay to kill some more pain and might be a little quiet for a few days.

Good news is, I've got a WhatsApp contact that a Makati hotel security guy set me up with a few years ago, nursing me back to good health on Friday night _ Phil.

Hi Guys,

Well I landed in Boracay yesterday and although I mentioned a few days ago, as a first time user, that Pina Love seemed like a pain in the arse / ass, it's worked wonders on the first full day here.

Not being a mongering destination per se, Boracay has always been a bit tricky.

The vast majority of the freelancers that pop out from beneath coconut palms late at night are nearly all bakla.

The good thing about Pina Love is it tracks your location, so you're mostly getting requests from girls in the area you're currently in.

I've found that the ones to go for, are the ones who want to chat via WhatsApp instead. That way you can negotiate your deal off app and they pretty much know you want a Daffy Duck. And if they don't suggest hooking up for a naughty after about ten minutes, just give them the flick and move on.

(Apologies for my negotiating skills in advance on the pics supplied).

But it worked.

So Karen turned out to be hot little 23 year old who accepted 5 k (plus a 500 p tip) for a couple of hours of great action.

And I supplied the lady drinks so I saved a fortune.

She'll definitely get some repeat action.

Now it's time for a Tanduay _ Phil.

So yes, Pina Love has definitely worked.

But tonight was a surprise.

I was going to have a night off.

As I was putting out the trash around midnight, a girl approached me in the hotel and said she needed some cash to get home and would it be possible if she could give me a BBBJ.

"Okay, if you have to".

Riza has now left and it's about 130 am.

An older girl but a few shots later I'm ready to hit the sack.

1500 p plus half of a bottle of Tanduay between the both of us.

Got to love The Phils.

_ Phil.

Hi Guys,

This pic's from a g-cash transaction for another online find the other night.

We went for a drink afterwards and she wanted to send the cash straight home to her folks, so I asked how they processed it over the counter and took a pic.

Now there's a couple of interesting things to come out of this.

A. Her name doesn't really appear to be Jessikah. A little unfortunate that I'll now always remember her as AN_AL.

Be. And secondly, I didn't negotiate such a low price.

(Admittedly she was on the lower side of the scale looks wise, but she managed to lighten the load and that's all she asked for).

_Phil.

Hi guys and Admin.

Is there any chance of having a Cebu thread on here, rather than a blog buried at the bottom of everything?

It is the second largest city in The Phils.

I'm back there in July for work.

Would be happy to contribute when I'm there.

_Phil.

Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone's done Leyte?

I'll be in Cebu for work in July and looking for new adventures close by.

Over the past few weeks in The Phils I've met a few stunners who originally came from Leyte and I've noticed there's lots of girls on Pina Love from there.

I realize you can fly into Tacloban, but I'd probably travel from the north of Cebu on the water.

Only problem is July is rainy season.

It doesn't worry me too much if the rain's hitting the roof and you have a great girl in the sack.

Any advice would be appreciated.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2990980]Hi guys,

Just wondering if anyone's done Leyte?

I'll be in Cebu for work in July and looking for new adventures close by.

Over the past few weeks in The Phils I've met a few stunners who originally came from Leyte and I've noticed there's lots of girls on Pina Love from there.

I realize you can fly into Tacloban, but I'd probably travel from the north of Cebu on the water.

Only problem is July is rainy season.

It doesn't worry me too much if the rain's hitting the roof and you have a great girl in the sack.

Any advice would be appreciated.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]I did that few years back, as part of the grand filipines tour, it was kind of dead. I was lucky because the girl that sat next to me in the airplane did not have any transportation home late at night, to the biliran island, and came with me to share the bed in the hotel, a teacher from some town on the island, I forgot which. She ended up staying longer with me until I left, than later wanted to join me on the camotes islands, no money involved (photo). The only decent hotel is xyz. They have a robinsons mall, but not much traffic there. There was a criminology student that I was talking to on DIA, but she answered willing to meet after I left already.

I don't think the rainy season starts until end of April.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2990993]I was lucky because the girl that sat next to me in the airplane did not have any transportation home late at night, to the biliran island, and came with me to share the bed in the hotel, a teacher from some town on the island, I forgot which. She ended up staying longer with me until I left, than later wanted to join me on the camotes islands, no money involved [/QUOTE]Thanks Ugly,

I have a habit of finding myself in similar situations.

I just prefer to discover a few new places along the journey and not necessarily in your typical mongering spots. And preferably with some water nearby and some bed talent.

I've got a few months to work everything out.

Yes I'm looking at July so it will be during the rainy season.

_ Phil.

Does anybody have any recent intel on Baguio? I'm taking a few days trip there at the end of the week. Been there before, but I had 2 in tow from AC.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2971444]Mate, with your experience I'd just go there and sort it out for yourself.[/QUOTE]That is what I always have to do.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2971298]Promises made.

We hereby crown thee [I][b]ISG Boracay King[/b][/I].

If only you'd been more specific. You may have been requesting information that does not exist amongst the reporting fellas. Alas this place is not a database of information, its a collection of experiences. Wading thru the rocks to find a gem is who we are. Post up some of your experiences after your trip there, and help us peons.

And of course, post us up some of the pics you took, not those crappy pics taken from websites.[/QUOTE]I went on my third and last trip for 10 days end of March. Last time was about 5 years ago. Not much to find then and nothing now. On day 3 a lady in her 40's past by holding hands with 2 younger girls (18-25). But there was a cop in the background and never ran into a situation like that on the island which points me to trouble so did not stop. Never saw them again. Most girls came just after 11:00 pm after their hotel or restaurant shift ended. Older and not pretty. I only checked out the scene 3 nights and gave up. 10 days no sex but pretty much was expecting that. But thought I should find at least one I would be interested in. Roughly 15 ladyboys and 10 girls for a huge total of 25. The LBs were out nearly every single night. The girls were not always out so 5-10 every night. But I gave up at 11:40. Too late to be hunting that late and having to deal with endless LBs bothering the hell out of me. Maybe more girls out later but no longer interested that late at night.

Beach girls in a line start at Nigi Nigi Nu Noos at the ATM to the left side (they hide in that walkway on the side of the bar going to the hotel to negotiate), side street entrance next to Wave bar, OM bar, Kentucky Fried Chicken entrance, Summer Place bar, Epic bar, and ends at Red Coconut bar.

Club Galaxy is a disco on the other side of the island with free entrance and a free shuttle. I assume the free shuttle starts across from the'Mall across the lake where you can see a large banner hanging on the building so you know it is big. Never went. Just not my thing and only packed for 9 days in a backpack so nothing fancy enough in my mind to enter even though there is no dress code.

Only thing I really wanted was a pair of indentical twins I saw on my first night but was so tired after the overnight flight that I lost them on the beach walking path. Looked hard for 3 days for them but never found. Then walking on my 4th day left (6 down) I saw one and spoke with her and got her Facebook. I had to rush the pleasantries. She had small boobs, thin, short, age 23, and rate only a 6. 5. But I have not had idential twins for 9 years. She knew I only wanted her and her sister for sex. She replied to my FB texts but would not meet. I offered 500 p ($9) to talk with me on the beach (2 minute walk from her location) for 15 minutes. She can bring her sister with her and I would pay her 500 p also.

It is so hard to post pictures with the resizing and the site timing me out and the site down a lot that I will not even try posting pix. Fking nightmare!

WestCoast's King Comment. I would love for anybody to meet with me and teach me anything about street gir scenes in the Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, or Jakarta. I would pee my pants if you knew something I do not know. Would also love to meet someone who knows Madagascar or Brazil. I am in Jakarta until May 19. Patong Phuket May 20 - June 2 but may extend. Then Bali for 1-2 weeks after Phuket. Bring me my crown.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2995824]

It is so hard to post pictures with the resizing and the site timing me out and the site down a lot that I will not even try posting pix. Fking nightmare!
.............. Would also love to meet someone who knows Madagascar or Brazil. I am in Jakarta until May 19. Patong Phuket May 20 - June 2 but may extend. Then Bali for 1-2 weeks after Phuket. Bring me my crown.[/QUOTE]I figured out the easy way of resizing pics on the phone: just take a screenshot of the pic, and there you have the resized pic.

Rio de Janeiro used to be my favorite mongering destination 100 years ago, before they closed Help Disco, and transformed the place into a stupid museum that nobody ever visits. ' oh the cariocas.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2996138]I figured out the easy way of resizing pics on the phone: just take a screenshot of the pic, and there you have the resized pic.

Rio de Janeiro used to be my favorite mongering destination 100 years ago, before they closed Help Disco, and transformed the place into a stupid museum that nobody ever visits. ' oh the cariocas.[/QUOTE]Resizing is not a problem. It is their site. Always down for maintenance, can't download pix, timed out, lost posts, postings taking up to 30 hours to appear, can't correct wrong information (known as being arguementative).

FYI Just go to the AC bus station and there will be a seat available to Baguio unless holiday season or peak times. I went last year to Baguio and been there years ago. I think all buses are direct. I took a bus from San Fernando (northwest of Baguio) to AC and it was the wrong one. Damn thing was the local one stopping everywhere. Nightmare. You may want to check on that.

Every post about Rio's Help is the same. All the guys crying about it. Sadly, the good times are fading and I missed that boat. I feel sorry for the online hunters never knowing what the real world is. You just can not have the memories that places like Help or the old AC like HiSo could offer.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996266]Always down for maintenance, [/QUOTE]Having this issue lately also, sometimes more than once a day.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996266]lost posts, postings taking up to 30 hours to appear, can't correct wrong information (known as being arguementative). [/QUOTE]By chance, are you moderated?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2996309]Having this issue lately also, sometimes more than once a day.

By chance, are you moderated?[/QUOTE]"This Site Can't Be Reached" nearly every day and usually multiple times each day for hours. Using a my VPN should not effect anything.

I have no idea if I am moderated. I never received a notice of any type. But I get accused of being argumentative because I corrected a lot of wrong info and down right lies. I post information mostly. But the admins and many losers on this site prefer literotica like women like romance novels. I do not care that you licked her P lips for hours. Just tell me what bar she works at. I will not share the one twin location I know of on Boracay because I have some Game and if I could not get her to chat with me for 15 minutes for 500 p then I doubt others will be much more successful than I was. Plus, I would hate to have a steady stream of guys going to her work during the next few months stalking her.

That stupid trip made me suicidally depressed. So many unique girls I wanted. I am 80% sure I saw another set of twins but they were walking past with their mother all holding hands so I could tell that they were tourists and not living there. Plus, in the brief view I had of them, the girls were too young even though very tall. Lastly, I saw a midget (proportional body). Cute face and be cup boobs. I rate her a 7 out of 10. Just one small problem. I was standing in line to get my stuff scanned at the airport as I was leaving and she just arrived with her 4 family members quickly passing by. Life is so unfair.

Anyone that has a twin or midget fetish then the Philippines is the place to find it. I fulfilled both fetishes there years ago but would love to repeat.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2996309]By chance, are you moderated?[/QUOTE]My bad. Yes I am moderated. They need to look over my posts and thus delay my response by 12-24 hours.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2995824]I went on my third and last trip for 10 days end of March. Last time was about 5 years ago. Not much to find then and nothing now.[/QUOTE]Mate, although Boracay isn't your typical mongering location, I wouldn't dismiss the opportunities.

You just have to take a different approach, as opposed to roaming the beach at night with the LB's.

(See my earlier reports from early March).

Although the place isn't 'one of the most beautiful islands in the world' as it's often reported to be, it's an easy get-away from Manila with a flight under an hour and the beach is quite nice.

Having said that, I wouldn't be going there for ten days hoping to sniff out a 'Daffy Duck' unless you took your own talent there.

I hope you found that beach you were looking for.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996367] "This Site Can't Be Reached" nearly every day and usually multiple times each day for hours. [/QUOTE]I have been having the same issues. I change my VPN to a different city and get the same error message. I turn off the VPN and get the message. I wait 6 hours, try again, and get the message. Its hit-or-miss.

Changing VPN cities, or turning off the VPN, doesn't help. Getting this error multiple times daily (similar to about 8 months ago).

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996367]Using a my VPN should not effect anything.[/QUOTE]Depends on the website. Some sites, especially banking or government servers, do not allow VPN use. Last month I sent myself a remit from my home country bank to my GC, in the normal way on the remit company site, as I have done dozens of times. This time the transfer was blocked, and a message said such as: "Your account has been locked. You must call the toll free number to unlock your account". Crap. No stated reason why. I emailed their support, and the email reply said: "You must call the number to unlock your account". More crap. I called their phone number and the agent said something like: "I see your account is locked. You are wanting your account unlocked?" Yes. "I just unlocked it. Your transfer is complete". Why was it locked? "Because you used a VPN. For your safety and your bank's safety we locked your account". I can't use my VPN? "Its not allowed. Thanks for calling today". Thanks!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970725]It finally happened. I met a girl at the 11th bar I visited this week. I am an Alpha++ Big Dog (WOOF! I approached her and told her she was so damn sexy that I wanted to get between her legs and rub my face all over her pussy until my face looked like a glazed donut. Then let it dry, peel it off my face, and then eat it like a Fruit Roll-Up. [b]Surprisingly that did not work.[/b] [/QUOTE]Can NOT believe that didn't work.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996367]I have no idea if I am moderated. I never received a notice of any type. But I get accused of being argumentative because I corrected a lot of wrong info and down right lies. I post information mostly. But the admins and [b]many losers[/b] on this site prefer literotica like women like romance novels. [/QUOTE]Many losers. Boy that's not derogatory.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996368]My bad. Yes I am moderated. They need to look over my posts and thus delay my response by 12-24 hours.[/QUOTE]Possibly a good idea.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996368]I have some Game and if I could not get her to chat with me for 15 minutes for 500 p then I doubt others will be much more successful than I was. [/QUOTE]Sounds alpha. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but being overly-testosteroned publicly and on moderation might conceivably go hand in hand.

Here is one of your Admin-deleted posts:

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970722][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was redacted or deleted to remove sections of the report that were [u]largely argumentative[/u]. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. [i]Thank You![/i][/blue][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996368]I do not care that you licked her P lips for hours. Just tell me what bar she works at. [/QUOTE]Its a collection of experiences and opinions, not necessarily an encyclopedia of the country. You (the reader) 'get what you get', not necessarily what you want. Its a bit like shopping in any grocery store or Jollibee in Phils: you get what they have in stock, not what they advertise on the menu, or what they usually have, or what you wanted. Its possible the original poster didn't post the girl's bar name or location on purpose. Its something you might be able to acquire in PM.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2996368]That stupid trip made me suicidally depressed. So many unique girls I wanted. I am 80% sure I saw another set of twins but they were walking past with their mother all holding hands so I could tell that they were tourists and not living there. Plus, in the brief view I had of them, the girls were too young even though very tall. Lastly, I saw a midget (proportional body). Cute face and be cup boobs. I rate her a 7 out of 10. Just one small problem. I was standing in line to get my stuff scanned at the airport as I was leaving and she just arrived with her 4 family members quickly passing by. Life is so unfair.[/QUOTE]Its not all bad news: A number of us expats here will have a shot with them. Fairly possible some Aussie is seeding one of those twins at this very moment. Horny down-under-f*ckers. Go team!

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2996600]Mate, although Boracay isn't your typical mongering location, I wouldn't dismiss the opportunities.

You just have to take a different approach, as opposed to roaming the beach at night with the LB's.

Although the place isn't 'one of the most beautiful islands in the world' as it's often reported to be, it's an easy get-away from Manila with a flight under an hour and the beach is quite nice.

Having said that, I wouldn't be going there for ten days hoping to sniff out a 'Daffy Duck' unless you took your own talent there.

I hope you found that beach you were looking for.[/QUOTE]I had prior experience there. I have personally seen how AC, Cebu, and Dumaguette street scenes had died (before and after) so I was not expecting anything at all and did not really care. If I really wanted to get a piece I could have tried the disco or asked around. I had two guys ask me on the path of I wanted girls but said "no". One of the female hotel staff asked me if I needed anything and I said, "Sure, I need a girl for company". She said she had a friend but I never pursued it. I was not expecting to see 2 pairs of identical twins or a pretty midget. But unique girls turn me on. But only had a chance for the one set of indentical twins, which I did hunt for 3 days, gave up and then ran into just walking around, but no luck. I only talked to one lady on the path my first night who was around age 33 to ask how much and she quoted 3000 p. To me she was a 5. Just information for later IF I ran into something of interest. I had a girl everyday for 50 days and needed a break. 10 days break. Now a girl everyday for 11 days and counting.

My little bit of research (because I forgot) said dry season was the best time for the beaches. Wrong! Water was all green with algae. But saw Cujo's Keyhole this time. Also, walked further up White Beach to Mushroom Rock, West Cove Ruins, and ending at the north end of Balinghai Beach. Long walk. Dangerous in some spots. But you can walk the whole distance along the beach. West Cove Ruins I walked across to the third one during my past trip, but this time the bridge had fallen.

WestCoast1.

It finally happened. I met a girl at the 11th bar I visited this week. I am an Alpha++ Big Dog (WOOF! I approached her and told her she was so damn sexy that I wanted to get between her legs and rub my face all over her pussy until my face looked like a glazed donut. Then let it dry, peel it off my face, and then eat it like a Fruit Roll-Up. Surprisingly that did not work.

WTF! That was a joke. That entire post was. I also said I ran into Santa Claus at the Dollar Store.

I am 50+. Not in the bestest of shape. Gravity challenged. I know where I am in the pecking order. I am not 30, tall, and in shape. But I do know the street scene but that really does not exist anywhere in the Philippines now in an decent amount of quantity or quality like 10 years ago so I stopped.

As for the twin I spoke with. I only had 3 night left (inluding that night) and had no choice but to be blunt about what I wanted. I did not say, "I want to FU". I asked her if she wanted to visit me at my hotel which is easy to figure out.

Yes, there are a ton of losers (liars) on this site. It is fairly easy for me to spot them when they talk about playing in my sandbox and give detailed reports such as names, prices, brothel room details. But most of the liars get their info from other posts and off Youtube and repeat but add their own little sexual story (literotica). Real details like I can give, give them away as living in a basement.

I was on another site years ago. This guy posted contstantly in the Cebu thread. All the idiots thought he was the King of Cebu. I knew he was full of sh*t and posted so on the site and I was the bad guy (like here). Finally went to Cebu and met him for 3 hours. Yup. BS radar went crazy. About a year later this happened:

[URL]https://www.ijm.org/news/australian-national-convicted-in-the-philippines-sentenced-to-life-in-prison[/URL]

Another guy talked about his college GF in Cebu and at the time that was my sandbox and I knew he was full of sh*t. Finally he got mad enough at me and posted a picture of her and within hours several guys did a photo search of his pix. Guess I was right AGAIN. He posted pix of a Japanese porn star as his Cebu college GF. But why would he lie? Because so many guys are losers with no real life. But I am not allowed to correct info or point out the liars here.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2996646]I have been having the same issues. I change my VPN to a different city and get the same error message. I turn off the VPN and get the message. I wait 6 hours, try again, and get the message. Its hit-or-miss.

Changing VPN cities, or turning off the VPN, doesn't help. Getting this error multiple times daily (similar to about 8 months ago).

Depends on the website. Some sites, especially banking or government servers, do not allow VPN use. Last month I sent myself a remit from my home country bank to my GC, in the normal way on the remit company site, as I have done dozens of times. This time the transfer was blocked, and a message said such as: "Your account has been locked. You must call the toll free number to unlock your account". Crap. No stated reason why. I emailed their support, and the email reply said: "You must call the number to unlock your account". More crap. I called their phone number and the agent said something like: "I see your account is locked. You are wanting your account unlocked?" Yes. "I just unlocked it. Your transfer is complete". Why was it locked? "Because you used a VPN. For your safety and your bank's safety we locked your account". I can't use my VPN? "Its not allowed. Thanks for calling today". Thanks!

Can NOT believe that didn't work.

Many losers. Boy that's not derogatory.

Possibly a good idea.

Sounds alpha. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but being overly-testosteroned publicly and on moderation might conceivably go hand in hand.

Here is one of your Admin-deleted posts:



Its a collection of experiences and opinions, not necessarily an encyclopedia of the country. You (the reader) 'get what you get', not necessarily what you want. Its a bit like shopping in any grocery store or Jollibee in Phils: you get what they have in stock, not what they advertise on the menu, or what they usually have, or what you wanted. Its possible the original poster didn't post the girl's bar name or location on purpose. Its something you might be able to acquire in PM.

Its not all bad news: A number of us expats here will have a shot with them. Fairly possible some Aussie is seeding one of those twins at this very moment. Horny down-under-f*ckers. Go team![/QUOTE]Banking in the Philippines can be a double whammy. Some home banks don't accept VPNs at all and others prohibit or restrict transactions while there. It's not totally without cause as the Philippines isn't signatory to a major anti money laundering agreement so many times any transactions routed through there are treated as laundering by default. Their banks have also been used several times to hide or cash out ill gotten gains in high dollars scams.

[URL]https://youtu.be/Usu9z0feHug?si=OHBVK1g77Icq6B2S[/URL]

Lifelong moderation is a PITA on this site. Many times moderated posts won't appear for several days and by then they are buried a few pages back so that it becomes difficult to follow conversations or trading info amongst several posters. There is certainly a benefit to having some members moderated but having the default being multiple day delays forever is counter productive. Some form of three strikes would be better. 1st breach of the forum rules and I get moderated for 3 months. If I'm a good boy, then I go back to real time posting. If I'm still naughty, then moderation continues for 12 months. Then the same: either return to contributing real time or lifting moderation. The result would be a much more flowing forum and save a shit tonne of work for the admins.

There are all the different types of personalities on the board, just like real life. Some I follow intently, others I listen to 5% and discard the rest.

Each to their own but I've often seen being an Alpha counterproductive in Asia. The guys stress themselves out because nothing is ever perfect or how they demand it and locals quickly tire of constant confrontation. Of course, creating chaos is often seen as part of the game by them so they may see this as a positive.

Remember kiddos, it's never your girl, just your turn. Many of us revel in being the side dick. Let the big boys buy her the new phones and pay the rent in the hope that he will be first in line for the week or two that he is actually in country. Meanwhile, she's available for pennies on the dollar to guys who are in town and treat her decently. Who knows, she may even hand out an occasional freebie.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2996676]
There are all the different types of personalities on the board, just like real life. Some I follow intently, others I listen to 5% and discard the rest. Remember kiddos, it's never your girl, just your turn. Many of us revel in being the side dick. Let the big boys buy her the new phones and pay the rent in the hope that he will be first in line for the week or two that he is actually in country. Meanwhile, she's available for pennies on the dollar to guys who are in town and treat her decently. Who knows, she may even hand out an occasional freebie. Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]So very, very true G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2997521]It's amazing how little of the proceeds the girls can actually take home: room and board; hair and makeup; food; repaying transport. They all add up. Throw in low season and missed quotas and girls can end up owing money at the end of the month.

It's not surprising that freelancing or after hours hook ups at half rates are attractive.[/QUOTE]Moved to Other Areas as an addendum. Add to this list the girl's near-constant emergencies. Province girl's lifestyles can be an endless list of needs. Cut electric. Cut water supply. Sari store owners on her parent's for back-payment (food is cut). School fees (and not just for herself, but for her siblings). Need birthday cake* (not for herself, but for her boyfie, or nephew). AND SO ON.

When such emergency exists, they are at times willing to go the full mile, and for pennies on the dollar.

* Never quite understood this Bday cake emergency. Every single time the girl will contact me the day before, or even the morning of, the birthday of, say, her niece. Didn't anyone in the family plan to save a few hundred pesos from the most recent sweldo for this? Why does this always pop up within 24 hours of what will later appear to be an elaborately planned party for the 2 year old? "Honey, we got a pig, noodles, pasta salad, potato salad, humba, leche flan, spaghetti, breads, party favors, coffee, a Happy Birthday tarpaulin, Red Horse, Empirador, Coke, and gifts. Did we miss something?" Yes, you missed the most important part: The cake!

A friend of mine told me that there are small private islands in the Philipines where a small boat loaded w / young girls stops by twice a month to offer girls to stay overnigh. Includes washing, cooking & sex. Have you heard of this? If so, can you share details?

[QUOTE=Tommylove;2998239]A friend of mine told me that there are small private islands in the Philipines where a small boat loaded w / young girls stops by twice a month to offer girls to stay overnigh. Includes washing, cooking & sex. Have you heard of this? If so, can you share details?[/QUOTE]With enough money and contacts anything can be organised. However, I don't know of any islands that have semi permanent structures in place like those that you speak of.

I'm guessing your friend has muddled / exaggerated the habit of the filthy rich of hiring groups of girls to act as eye candy or 'Pretties' at parties, events etc. Some of these girls will blur the line between model and hooker for the right price. Of course, groups of hard core hookers can also be brought in.

Most experienced guys are aware that it's not wise to multitask wives, girl friends, hookers and household help. Keep them very distinct.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. The only other thing I can think of is the boat loads of hookers that row out to ships on anchor at the major ports.

G.

The next morning, I had a few spare hours due to my delayed flight so I was determined to get the whole Sim card situation sorted. After all, how hard could it really be. Turns out that while the app was a dead loss, the dot com site allowed a work around. I just keyed in any bogus info that was nearly correct and it worked. My permanent address was my hotel street address. Barangay etc was just a random selection from the drop down box. Proof of residency was a photo of my Agoda check-in slip. Departure date was a random flight pdf I had saved. I think as long as all questions are answered, it works, regardless of the accuracy of the actual answers.

The drive to the airport, on the holiday Friday, was a ghost town. 15 minutes and we were there. I went straight to Immigration, said that I arrived last night when the office was closed, and could I extend my visa today. No one was terribly concerned about me being a day late. 5 minutes and P3170 later, I had a 59 day visa. Not sure why but it's gone up from P3050 that I was charged last time. Perhaps the P120 was a holiday surcharge or a price rise. I don't know and don't care. Another change is that not only do you get the paper copy extension but it's also physically stamped into the passport. I'm now a firm convert to extending visas at the airport vs at regional or head offices. It's just so easy.

The flight to Gensan was packed but uneventful. As mentioned in the other post, Grab upon arrival was a total loss but P500 found a hire car direct to the Red Doorz KCC. Here the rooms are tiny but everything works and it's a good location. That night, I hit Facebook for Walkers groups but I still had 'Newbie' firmly stamped on my forehead and I'm not good at begging chicks to allow me to pay them to fuck me so to bed alone again.

The next morning, I hit the old faithful: PinaLove. Lots of girls online due to the holidays but it always takes time to find your feet when new in town. Quite a few nibbles but no one was heading to my room. I wasn't terribly concerned as it's always feast follows famine. Sure enough, after lunch I had a three way log jam: one was coming after Sunday Mass; another had to come now before returning to work at 5 pm as a domestic slave; and another who had to come between mom arriving and other family leaving that evening. A lot is said of girls flaking and being late or of working around their job, study and family commitments. However, the flip side of that is that when they have free time, they want to come, NOW, right NOW!! The maid was a one day a week opportunity so I gave her first pick. An absolute tiny thing, 24, no kids, pert little tits and shrink wrapped brown skin. The deal was P1500 until she had to return at 5. I deferred one girl until after then and the other for a few days. She had no idea how to do a BJ but evertything else was best efforts. Between the other girl coming in a couple of hours and getting old sucks, I called it quits after one shot. I paid her in full anyway for a tight little body and a great attitude. It always makes me laugh when provincial girls see short sessions and full payment as a personal insult as if they have done something wrong or should be trying harder. No sweety, I'm just getting old. I promise to stay in touch and, yes, I will fuck you several times, all day, next Sunday. See, it's in my Calendar.

Next up, that evening, was the girl who escaped her family 'to come and eat pizza'. Unfortunately, filters and a 6 yo kid conspired to seriously drop the fuckability rating. The deed was done but there was no talk to extend or stay the night and she was out the door with minimum payment. I really should have kept the pocket rocket from earlier.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Tommylove;2998239]A friend of mine told me that there are small private islands in the Philipines where a small boat loaded w / young girls stops by twice a month to offer girls to stay overnigh. Includes washing, cooking & sex. Have you heard of this? If so, can you share details?[/QUOTE]Are you sure it was in the Philippines? I know / have experienced that in China but have not heard of anything like that in the PI. Of course there are over a thousand islands there, so its very possible its happening somewhere.

[QUOTE=Tommylove;2998239]A friend of mine told me that there are small private islands in the Philipines where a small boat loaded w / young girls stops by twice a month to offer girls to stay overnigh. Includes washing, cooking & sex. Have you heard of this? If so, can you share details?[/QUOTE]Maybe Epstein's Island, but that's in the Caribbean somewhere. Just returned from some small islands, and there were lots of single girls vacationing there from their call center jobs, and it seemed that they already worked there for a few years since they were all good fed whales with golden membership at Jolly Bee.

But yes, if anybody has knowledge about the small boat in question, I'm also interested to hear the details, or if anybody starts such a business, sign me up for the next trip.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2997548]

* Never quite understood this Bday cake emergency. Every single time the girl will contact me the day before, or even the morning of, the birthday of, say, her niece. Didn't anyone in the family plan to save a few hundred pesos from the most recent sweldo for this? Why does this always pop up within 24 hours of what will later appear to be an elaborately planned party for the 2 year old? "Honey, we got a pig, noodles, pasta salad, potato salad, humba, leche flan, spaghetti, breads, party favors, coffee, a Happy Birthday tarpaulin, Red Horse, Empirador, Coke, and gifts. Did we miss something?" Yes, you missed the most important part: The cake![/QUOTE]I love this Westie and had a good laugh.

Primarily because it's so true.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=Tommylove;2998239]A friend of mine told me that there are small private islands in the Philipines where a small boat loaded w / young girls stops by twice a month to offer girls to stay overnigh. Includes washing, cooking & sex. Have you heard of this? If so, can you share details?[/QUOTE]You, as a foreigner do not want to get involved in any of that. HT laws in Philippines are not to be toyed with and all it takes is one person to report to authorities before the entire thing blows up. There are people still languishing in prison from the IJM raids in angeles of the early 2010's who were charged and convicted of HT. If it's locals doing this to service other locals, then the chances of them being safe are almost 100%, but once Johnny Westerner gets involved, good luck.

I spent a lot of time on FB Walker pages. I do mean A LOT. Lots of lookers giving the prices and attitudes mentioned earlier. A few broke local girls too but the language and their timidity towards foreigners was a real obstacle. I struggled to understand the abbreviations, slang, spanglish, etc and 99% of those that I managed to persist with wanted nothing at all to do with me when it was obvious I was a foreigner.

The next morning, I managed to crack the code. Scammers must be very real for these girls because 1000 questions and photo proofs later an agreement was set. 2 shots for 3 k. Yes, I over paid but I wanted to see how the whole Walker thing worked. Negotiations took forever but once agreed she arrived in a few minutes. Definitely a stranger to foreigners, she literally stood in the corner until activities commenced. Against my better judgement, it was money down before pants down and then straight to business. She was tall and a nice body but her skin was scarred and marked as you see on many provincial girls. Two whirl wind sessions and she was gone. I wouldn't call it clock watching but she is definitely use to getting the guy off and being shown the door. All the boxes were ticked but it was very functional rather than good fun.

I'll give the Walker groups another try for a few days but, given the amount of work involved, I may end up sticking to my usual civilians and PIna Love.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2998262]The maid was a one day a week opportunity so I gave her first pick. An absolute tiny thing, 24, no kids, pert little tits and shrink wrapped brown skin. The deal was P1500 until she had to return at 5.[/QUOTE]Hi G,

Love reading reports about other areas.

Can I ask why Gensan in particular?

I'm always looking for other places to visit on my frequent trips for work.

P.S. The maid seemed like a great deal.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2998749]Hi G,

Love reading reports about other areas.

Can I ask why Gensan in particular?

I'm always looking for other places to visit on my frequent trips for work.

P.S. The maid seemed like a great deal.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks Phil.

Basically just to try somewhere new. My last trip I covered the north and east pretty well so I thought I would head further south.

Gensan has been good to see but to be honest, I'm going to bail soon. It's good to have seen but no need to return or make a special detour to get to'.

Another post to come but, in short, I haven't found Gensan terribly interesting and the fishing is much better elsewhere.

People complain about the work and fuck around to use apps but my FB Walker trial is on a whole new level. Maybe someone with a lot more patience and language skills would fare better but the effort vs reward vs cost for me was pretty low.

Cheers. G.