Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]
An interesting thing in Thailand, however, is that there are a lot of girls that actually have their own preferences and will participate actively in the choosing process. Especially (it seemed to me) in Pattaya (in the discos). Therefore, if you are young and handsome you might naturally be able to pay less for a better looking girl than an older guy would. On the other hand, if you are an older guy (assuming average looking), you might be able to get any girl you want by offering a relatively small premium while the younger guys jerk her around over 500 or 1000 baht.

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Very true! Also, you mention the "choosing process" which suggests that some of the girls are in control. They are!

Too much money is being sloshed around in Pattaya and the better girls get to choose what they want.

Oversupply of punters with cash in their hand and few stunners. Outcome=higher prices for the good stuff!

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]

There are about half a dozen girls in Bangkok that send me emails and text messages when I'm in China. When I land in Bangkok they will come right away, on demand.

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What do you pay these girls for ST? Do you buy them food and pay for there taxi, also?

Reality check, gentlemen!

No one is disputing that some punters pay more, way more, than others do for the girls' services. The point is: it doesn't ruin the market or drive up prices. The posts below prove that point. If punters who chose to pay "peanuts" can still get the girls they want, how can the market have been ruined for anyone?

Evil

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather]I have no problem getting my 500 Baht pussy, because I'm in my 30s and I'm a handsome man. I get stunners for my 500 Baht. And I fucked also many stunners without paying any money in many different countries. (All right, that's all advertisement from me).

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[QUOTE=Tom Mabuhay]Just go ahead and overpay like many other rather 'stupid' guys. I just have a nice girl, who is getting huge amounts of money sent every month by a young crazy US-guy, got a new car (she is driving me around. Hehe) and soon a new house. (after staying with her just 2 weeks! ). She is even talking on the phone wtih him when she is staying in my bed. Laughing about the 'dingdong-guy'. I am 15 years older than him and she is staying with me for 'peanuts'.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]

Some visitors to Pattaya spend 300 baht a night on a hotel room, other spend 3,000 a night and a few, a very few, spend 30,000 a night (that's what the Presidential Suite at the Marriott costs and it is often occupied). Some will have a 50-baht bowl of noodles from a street stall for supper, some spend 500 baht for farang food in sit-down restaurant and others splurge on steak and lobster for 5,000 baht. Some punters outfit themselves with T-shirts and shorts for 500 baht from a sidewalk vendor, others will buy three or four brand-name shirts at Robinson for 5,000 baht and a handful will spend 50,000 for a bespoke suit from a Zegna-certified tailor. Nobody comments, nobody cares.

So why the hell is there so much concern about what a few guys spend on the girls?

Evil[/QUOTE]

They pay more for superior quality or taste or image, which does not mean they are overpaying. Overpaying is paying more than other for the same quality (and too often overpaying for lower quality). Would you go to a shop and pay double price than other customers for the same shirt? I have paid up to 3500 THB for a girl in Thailand, but the girl was really worth this price.

In every place, there is a standard market price, in Pattaya it's 1000 LT except gogos, in Phuket it's 1500 LT. Phuket is a good example of how overpaying can ruin the market. So many regular tourists who don't know price and quality have created a ridiculous situation where all second-class girls are now asking for 2000 Bath or more (mot of them don't get it still...).

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Paying more CAN (not always does, but can) create, for lack of a better word, loyalty or preferential treatment.[/QUOTE]Very true. And just to expand this beyond all this tedious discussion about price, being a bit generous with money seems to me part of a whole type of behavior that some guys just don't seem to get. Yes, they're working girls, but if you're relaxed and funny with them, show a bit of consideration (you know, like treating them like people rather than sexual appliances), and don't spend all your time trying to bargain prices and demand services x, y, and z . . . well, you might be surprised at the service you get, and the kind of priority you receive when you want to see them again.

[QUOTE=El Frances]In every place, there is a standard market price, in Pattaya it's 1000 LT except gogos, in Phuket it's 1500 LT. Phuket is a good example of how overpaying can ruin the market. So many regular tourists who don't know price and quality have created a ridiculous situation where all second-class girls are now asking for 2000 Bath or more (mot of them don't get it still...).[/QUOTE]Guys, if possible, for your own karma sake, keep price for hooking up as random as possible.

When we explicitly define prices for hooking say 1000B, all sorts of third party comes in, the reason sex trafficking, child exploitation, pimping is increasing is due to the fact that people know there is a fixed price to be had for sex.

With this comes the business industry, big hotels, big bars and in 10 years, the same 1000B becomes 2000B and we complain the old days were better and cheaper, it was never about inflation it was about fixed prices and third party involvement and because of it inflation came in prices of hooking.

Ask any old expat in THB and he will always say the old times were golden, not knowing he would have contributed to the ignorant fact of "fixed pricing" which has ruined and exploited thousand of lives by third party hungry money grabbers.

One might say, what can one man can do to change the whole system of fixed pricing....that is the beauty of karma, if only the west was educated on laws of karma....you keep on doing your karma and you get the same reward....if you do your karma right...the world will change eventually.

let the hooking be between a man and a women, lets not define prices outright, lets keep it natural, if we do this now, the prices for ever would be same for hooking as long as we keep the third party pimps, bar owners, hotels away...now the third party is the king while the women who give service to us suffers.

Lets some pay 1000, some pay 500 and some pay 1500, it does not matter if it is low or high, the point is, we should keep it as random as possible to keep the third party and women exploiters away, as when they know the price always fluctuates, there wouldn't be any business opportunity nor any full time profession to exploit women..every body wins in this game.

We all are winners in the laws of karma, its ok if you f**ck, but do it the right way. :D

This topic has become almost unreadable. Pages and pages of arguments about overpaying with very little info on having fun in Pattaya.

Maybe the Mod could kindly clean it up a bit?

[QUOTE=El Frances]In every place, there is a standard market price, in Pattaya it's 1000 LT except gogos, in Phuket it's 1500 LT. Phuket is a good example of how overpaying can ruin the market. So many regular tourists who don't know price and quality have created a ridiculous situation where all second-class girls are now asking for 2000 Bath or more (mot of them don't get it still...).[/QUOTE]I don't agree that there is a "Standard Market Price" in each marketplace, whether it's eggs, shirts, suits, or women for hire. You don't just buy "a dozen eggs", you buy a dozen large eggs, or a dozen extra large eggs, or a dozen jumbo eggs, or a dozen organic eggs, ad nauseum. Obviously the price will vary depending on the quality.

You don't just buy a shirt; you buy a Polo shirt or a Lacoste shirt or an Armani shirt or a Turnbull and Asser shirt. Is it polyester? Silk? Double stitched? Egyptian cotton? Exact sleeve length or average? Custom made or off the rack? Again the price is dependant on the quality.

I think the same pricing structure applies to women of the night. No two are alike, and since there is such a wide range of quality, and certainly no uniform grading scale, the price will depend on the quality. And since no two punters rate women the same way, these discussions are pretty meaningless.

They are just a rough guide on where the negotiations for an average looking woman delivering an average experience might end up. Expect to pay extra for good grooming, good looks, sex appeal, language abilities, and an attractive complete package. Likewise, expect to pay extra for any service beyond what is considered "normal" here.

It seems that some fellows are more focused on the price than the service, and I think a lot of fellows get off on claiming to have gotten the biggest bargain. You paid 600 baht???? HaHa...I only paid 550.

It reminds me of the discussions we had in high school when comparing how much sex we got from a date compared to how little we spent on that date. You had to take Jane to dinner and a movie to cop a feel? HaHa....I got a feel while watching a movie in my parents rec room while spending nothing!

A year from now, will you remember if you paid 1000 baht or 1200 baht for a night of pleasure? Or will you remember a beautiful lady that delivered a memorable experience?

"A year from now, will you remember if you paid 1000 baht or 1200 baht for a night of pleasure? Or will you remember a beautiful lady that delivered a memorable experience?"

Nicely said.

I agree with you Dave.

[QUOTE=David 2] Obviously the price will vary depending on the quality.
I think the same pricing structure applies to women of the night. No two are alike, and since there is such a wide range of quality, and certainly no uniform grading scale, the price will depend on the quality. And since no two punters rate women the same way, these discussions are pretty meaningless.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know how the grading scale works at soapies? Is there one manager who chooses what category a girl will be in? Like David 2 said there is no uniform grading scale from person to person, so how is this done in an establishment that has price differentiation/discrimination? Of course I had read before about the soapies in BKK where the sideliners cost more than the fishbowl, etc. However I did not witness it first hand until I went to PP Massage in Pattaya where girls with a red tag would cost about 600 baht more than the girls with the blue tag. To my mongering eyes many of the cheaper girls looked better than the more expensive ones, so I could not understand how one would be able to distinguish between the two had they not worn different-colored tags. And what kind of self-esteem does this leave the girls with? I can just imagine one going in for the interview and the manager telling her, "well, we are going to put you in the 'bottom of the barrel' category."

[QUOTE=David 2]I don't agree that there is a "Standard Market Price" in each marketplace, whether it's eggs, shirts, suits, or women for hire.
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In some markets there is a standard price for all products (e.g. movie tickets), but it might change depending on the venue.

Women for hire generally do seem to have a standard price (or price range) based on the venue. I once went with a freelancer on Sukhumwit for 1500 LT who asks for and gets 5000 ST in Novotel disco (have seen her there as well). At the lower end, on beach road in Pattaya 99% of the girls take 500 baht ST, regardless if they're an old used up hag or a hot 19-y.o. part-timer.

Before completing the deed (or seeing the movie), there is no way to gauge how much it is worth (that beautiful lady could be a starfish, or just not click with you).

[QUOTE=David 2]A year from now, will you remember if you paid 1000 baht or 1200 baht for a night of pleasure? Or will you remember a beautiful lady that delivered a memorable experience?[/QUOTE]

If you have limited resources, it is a difference between 4 or 5 nights of pleasure... and then paying more does not make it likely that your experience will be better.

I kept track over the years, and there is no correlation at all between service quality and price. There is minimal correlation between looks and price, but that could well be because I don't mind going with an average-looking girl if the price is OK, but wouldn't for a higher price. I'd rather pay a good tip afterwards for good service, than overpromise ahead of time and hope.

All said and done, this price discussion is entirely academic and personal. Realistically there is no way we'll affect the market conditions no matter what we do. In Thailand, the market is too big, varied and resilient -- and that's a good thing.

[QUOTE=David 2]I don't agree that there is a "Standard Market Price" in each marketplace, whether it's eggs, shirts, suits, or women for hire. You don't just buy "a dozen eggs", you buy a dozen large eggs, or a dozen extra large eggs, or a dozen jumbo eggs, or a dozen organic eggs, ad nauseum. Obviously the price will vary depending on the quality.

You don't just buy a shirt; you buy a Polo shirt or a Lacoste shirt or an Armani shirt or a Turnbull and Asser shirt. Is it polyester? Silk? Double stitched? Egyptian cotton? Exact sleeve length or average? Custom made or off the rack? Again the price is dependant on the quality.

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I agree and don't agree with you. As I wrote overpaying is paying more than others for the same girl. Of course, some girls are more pretty or offer better service and generate more demand and can often get more money. However, there tend to be a standard price +/- X% in each city (I pay cheaper in Pattaya or Chiang Mai than in Phuket), in each venue (I pay more in thermae for japanese oriented girls than in Biergarden). Broadly speaking it works.

Additionally, about this price question. The issue is not to show off by paying less than others, as was written. The issue is that many unexperienced readers are reading our threads trying to make out what should be the decent price to pay (not overpaying, not cheap charley either). Maybe they don't know that Pattaya is cheaper than Phuket or Bangkok, maybe they've never mongered in Thailand!

It is the role of this forum to provide this information among others, and not overpaid prices, and I'm very happy to find it when i go to places which are unknown to me.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]In some markets there is a standard price for all products (e.g. movie tickets), but it might change depending on the venue.

Women for hire generally do seem to have a standard price (or price range) based on the venue. I once went with a freelancer on Sukhumwit for 1500 LT who asks for and gets 5000 ST in Novotel disco (have seen her there as well). At the lower end, on beach road in Pattaya 99% of the girls take 500 baht ST, regardless if they're an old used up hag or a hot 19-y.o. part-timer.

Before completing the deed (or seeing the movie), there is no way to gauge how much it is worth (that beautiful lady could be a starfish, or just not click with you).
[/QUOTE]Very true. These 2k-3k Pattaya gogo girls can be had for 500 baht when they are "off-duty"

Exactly the same performance.

If I pay the old woman on the corner 30 baht for noodles and another monger comes along and pays 150 baht. It ain't going to make the noodles taste any better.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Does anyone know how the grading scale works at soapies? Is there one manager who chooses what category a girl will be in? [/QUOTE]

At the soapies which cater to Asian customers, the tint of the girl's skin and her height will largely determine her "grade." I agree that it is sometimes difficult to see much difference between girls of various "grades," while in other cases, a girl from the fishbowl will look better in my eyes than a sideliner or model.

I've also heard it said that a girl's willingnes to pay kick backs to the mama- or papasans will influence which "grade" she holds. Never forget that the soapies are very much Thai turf. Their turf, their rules. The girls are quite used to being classified according to one scale or another, formal or informal, since their preschool days. They don't worry too much about it.

Evil

[QUOTE=Spider916]This topic has become almost unreadable. Pages and pages of arguments about overpaying with very little info on having fun in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Agreed - I'll see if I can change topic a bit after I go out tonight - single! Had a big party night last night with some Arab and Russian guys and girls at their seafood restaurant - I couldn't keep up with their vodka shots - my head still hurts! Going for a good long body scrub massage (two girls) now to rejuvenate, then probably off to Pattaya Central and see what happens.

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Last night I waved down a scooter to taxi me to Walking street - turned out it was a girl riding her own scooter, but she stopped and offered me a ride anyway. When she asked where I was going, and I said Walking Street, she said with a big smile "No need go Walking Street. Come to my house please - very near". She asked me a few times during the 5-minute ride. I was slightly tempted, but the night was young, and she wasn't really my type - too pale, skinny and Chinese-looking. I prefer darker and a bit more shapely.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Last night I waved down a scooter to taxi me to Walking street - turned out it was a girl riding her own scooter, but she stopped and offered me a ride anyway. When she asked where I was going, and I said Walking Street, she said with a big smile "No need go Walking Street. Come to my house please - very near". She asked me a few times during the 5-minute ride. I was slightly tempted, but the night was young, and she wan't really my type - too pale, skinny and Chinese-looking. I prefer darker and a bit more shapely.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great experience! I might try to wave down hot girls 'thinking' they are taxis.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Agreed. I'll see if I can change topic a bit after I go out tonight. Single! Had a big party night last night with some Arab and Russian guys and girls at their seafood restaurant. I couldn't keep up with their vodka shots. My head still hurts! Going for a good long body scrub massage (two girls) now to rejuvenate, then probably off to Pattaya Central and see what happens.

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Last night I waved down a scooter to taxi me to Walking street. Turned out it was a girl riding her own scooter, but she stopped and offered me a ride anyway. When she asked where I was going, and I said Walking Street, she said with a big smile "No need go Walking Street.come to my house please. Very near". She asked me a few times during the 5-minute ride. I was slightly tempted, but the night was young, and she wan't really my type. Too pale, skinny and Chinese-looking. I prefer darker and a bit more shapely.[/QUOTE]Piper,

Where in Pattaya can I go get a body scrub massage without FS and the cost for single girl and two girl.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Piper1]Agreed - I'll see if I can change topic a bit after I go out tonight - single!
scooter girl.[/QUOTE]


Good someone is back on message. The scooter chicks are common in Chiang Mai but I have also been picked up on Second Road a few times. It seems a little pushy for me because the chick has more control. I like it when they have little or none.

These days, I have been playing the dating sites and have struck plenty of gold. So far, I have a nurse who fist fucks, a dominatrix I (mostly) dominated and two government employees who like to tag team before the end of month check comes in. I recommend it.

Keep up the good work Piper1. And thanks again for breaking new ground in the old stomping ground of Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Betong]Very true. And just to expand this beyond all this tedious discussion about price, being a bit generous with money seems to me part of a whole type of behavior that some guys just don't seem to get. Yes, they're working girls, but if you're relaxed and funny with them, show a bit of consideration (you know, like treating them like people rather than sexual appliances), and don't spend all your time trying to bargain prices and demand services x, y, and z . . . well, you might be surprised at the service you get, and the kind of priority you receive when you want to see them again.[/QUOTE]Some. Too many!. Guys seem to be so desperate that they pay any price the girl is asking for. Even for rather ugly girls. I know quite a few of those cases. Walk aroung in Pattaya and you would agree. Sometimes one can be ashamed to be a 'farang'. But not only for this reason.

[QUOTE=West Coast]"A year from now, will you remember if you paid 1000 baht or 1200 baht for a night of pleasure? Or will you remember a beautiful lady that delivered a memorable experience?"

Nicely said.

I agree with you Dave.[/QUOTE]

I don't know it's nicely said or not: Any way... a year from now, will you remember if you paid 1000 baht or 1200 baht for a night of pleasure, when almost all ladies in Pattaya will demand 2000 baht or more for ShortTime.

These are my last words about overpaying. As you can hear many places in Pattaya: "It's up to you", my friend!

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather]

These are my last words about overpaying. As you can hear many places in Pattaya: "It's up to you", my friend![/QUOTE]
"It's up to you" AKA= "Sucker"

[QUOTE=The Scout]Sounds like a great experience! I might try to wave down hot girls 'thinking' they are taxis.[/QUOTE]
ah ah ..."thinking they are taxis", but surely hoping they are not taxis!:))

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Piper,

Where in Pattaya can I go get a body scrub massage without FS and the cost for single girl and two girl.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]It's called "Don Massage" - same street leading down to Pattaya Park Beach Resort, halfway from Pattaya to Jomtien - 5 mins by scooter from Walking Street. I'll look up the full address tomorrow. Great full-body scrub massage, lots of dick-teasing, nice handjob ending. 400Baht/1 Hour. Great body scrub with exfoliating cream. But girls not so good looking.

Later I went to Walking Street and Second Street and walked around and watched a few bands. Had another long massage in a Walking Street parlour (aloe vera gel massage - 1 hour plus 15 mins free; 400Baht). Great massage, but no teasing or handjob.

Tomorrow I'll try Yellow House in Jomtien and see if the famous Chompoo blows as good as they say - I wanted to go there tonight, but they close at midnight. That's usually when I get started.

I came across this great video diary on another site, it's informative and fun to watch for a "beginner" to the ways of Thailand (that would be me :). I'll post the link here and hopefully Jackson won't mind. Enjoy.

Mrsoulo

[url]http://www.youhot.com/video/22847/the-nightlife-in-pattaya-thailand[/url]

I haven't added a report for a while, so here goes. For consistently good looking girls day in and day out, month in and month out as well as year end and year out the two best Go-Go bars on walking street are Happy a Go-GO and Super Girls.

Happy a Go Go is probably the most popular bar on walking street. Well, no probably about it, it defiantly is. I start most of my nights there with a few draft beers for 55 Baht that are always cold. The girls at Happy's are always super slim with cute faces. Not too many there with nice real boobs, but quite a few fake ones are starting to show up.

Quite a few Asian tourist go here and a large percentage of the girls seem to prefer them, for the obvious reason. By the way, if you don't know what that is, just ask one of the girls and they will tell you there standard joke.

It is rare that I take a girl from Happy's, I am a tit man.

Super Girls on the other hand, probably has about 70% of the girls as Happy's, but the chances of finding a very high quality girl is much better. These are the two best paying bars on the street, but for what ever reason Super Girls seems to have the same super cute girls, but quite a few have real nice sets of natural tits and much better bodies.

Another big plus of Super Girls is that is only has 25% of the customers that Happy's does. So all in all, I would have to say Super Girls is the best Go Go bar on walking street. I am sure there are others would disagree with me, and that’s your prerogative.

That being said, you can walk into the dumpiest bar in the entire city on any given day and find the hottest girl in Thailand. In fact, just a few doors down from Super Girls is a little bar that can't be more than 20 feet wide that has two of the best looking girls on walking street. So, don't limit yourself to only the most popular bars. If you don't find something you like at any bar, just move on until you do.

One is very pretty, she says she is 18, but I would say 21 or 22 with a set of 35" that stick out straight and she loves showing them off. She NEVER puts her shirt on when she is on stage or off stage, which is great to just watch her parade all over the bar with those beautiful things showing. She is great in the sack too.

There is another one that just came into town, you can tell because she is still shy. She is about 5'-6", which is tall for a Thai girl, as beautiful as they get, with a set of 36DD's that stick out straight. She is not that good in bed, but I am doing my best to help her improve her technique. Somebody had to volunteer to be her teacher and for the greater good of womanhood everywhere I did. She is getting better, thanks to my helping hand and if you ever happen to find here, you owe me a beer for all of my HARD work. (Don't PM me asking what bar she is in, I am not telling.)

For those of you on a budget, or for those of you that don't find what you want at a bar, you can do what a great deal of us do that live here. There are plenty of great GO-GO bars that have 55 Baht draft beer now. Just go to a few of those and you will have a nice buzz on after a while and should be in the mood for a little action.

Then head out to walking street and see what walks by. There are literally thousands of free lancers that walk up and down the street all night long. Many girls come down from Bangkok when the universities are out or the have some free time from work for extra money.

Some go to the discos, some just walk. You can get just as good a girl on walking street as you can at any Go-Go bar at half the price, or even less. The price depends on the girl of course, but it should be between 500 to 1,000 Baht.

I have seen quite a bit of discussion about prices recently, so let me add my 2 cents and give you the real deal.

At beer and short time bars the price is 300 Baht bar fine and 500 Baht for the girl. Some girls might ask for 700, if they are super nice and you like them then pay it. Also, if it is early in the day or evening, they might want a double bar fine if you want to take a girl for a long time, that is standard and if you like her then pay it. Of course the girl's fee will also be double.

The Go-Go bars bar fine is 600 Baht and the girl will want 1,500 Baht for short time and between 2,500 and 3,000 for long time. The same methodology applies at the Go-Go bars, if you take them early in the evening for a long time the bar fine will almost assuredly be double.

A few tips to help you enjoy you stay more.

1) Try to find a girl that likes you, they all won't or don't.
2) The better they dance, the better they are in bed.
3) If you thinking about taking a girl always buy her a drink first to get to know her a little. This hard and fast rule can help you avoid disappointing evenings.
4) Don't negotiate; I gave you the prices above. The amount of fun you are going to have is directly related to the girl. If she is un-happy you will be too. If they ask for a higher price than is standard, and many do, just say something like this, "I heard the price was 1,500 Baht."

That is all you have to do and if they want to go with you they will and they will drop the price fast. Don't feel bad if they don't drop the price either, most of the time they have some alternative reason they won't tell you. Such as, another regular customer is coming by later, they are going home tomorrow and have to get up early for the bus, it is there special time of the month, etc.

Here's a funny side note, the other night I tried to bar fine a girl from Happy's and the manager came over to tell me I couldn't, she told me "Her pussy no good." She was on her period, but the girl would not tell me.

5) Get a mobile phone the first day you are here. You can buy one at Tuk.Com, which is a six story building a mile from Walking Street where you can buy a used one for 1,000 to 2,000 Baht and sell it back for half that amount when you leave.

Then make sure you get every girls number that you take out that you like. They all have mobile phones; in fact the one I took last night slept with it under her pillow. In the afternoon, when you resting in you hotel room give your favorites a call and some of them will come over. Best of all, no bar fine and the Go-Go bar girls will often take only a 1,000 Baht for a little afternoon action.

6) Buy the girls some cheap gifts from back home before you arrive and then give it too them as soon as you enter the hotel room. This is the best investment you will ever make, the girls just love them and they then love you for giving it to them. I used to but tee-shirts or cheap perfume from the flea markets.

7) If your in a bar and they are pushing drinks; like in the form of shooters, get out of there. That bars business is all about drinks and not bar fines. I am all about bar fines personally.

8) If a girl walks up to shake you hand, wants to sit down or ask you to buy them a drink and you have you eye on somebody else, then politely get out of it. Just say you waiting for somebody else, or you want somebody else or you have to leave, whatever. Just do it nicely and you will have no problem. But, once you buy a girl a drink, you will have a very hard time getting the real girl you want. The girl you want will not want to infringe on her friends business and more than likely will stay away from you.

It has been pretty slow in Pattaya for the last year or so due to the world wide economic meltdown. Too bad for the girls, but too good for me. I am 52 now and I have lived here for 6 years and there pretty much is not a time when I leave my condo that I am not hit on, smiled at or have some kind of conversation started by some stunning 25 Thai lady.

In fact, just two days ago I was walking back from Tut.Com to 2nd road because there is a big fruit and vegetable market on the way where a many of the girls go to buy something to eat and I got lucky. I meet a 5'-6" real stunner, I mean she was really hot for some 500 Baht early afternoon action. It was her idea, what could I do say no. Of course not, I would worry if she had anything to eat the rest of the day, so I did my part.

Life is a ***** here; I am more than well aware of that fact. But, somebody has to do there part to help out the third world economies by supporting college education funds of some of there finest citizens (And I do mean FINEST) and I have decide to devote my life to this worth while endeavor.

[QUOTE=Spider916]This topic has become almost unreadable. Pages and pages of arguments about overpaying with very little info on having fun in Pattaya.

Maybe the Mod could kindly clean it up a bit?[/QUOTE]
best post in more than a week.

sad...........

[QUOTE=1Ball]best post in more than a week.

sad...........[/QUOTE]
Really???

And I was thinking that the Mod should have cleaned that one up.

I can't stand guys who like to tell others what not to talk about.

[QUOTE=Spider916]This topic has become almost unreadable. Pages and pages of arguments about overpaying with very little info on having fun in Pattaya.

Maybe the Mod could kindly clean it up a bit?[/QUOTE]
best post in 2 weeks.

extremely sad, dad.

:eek:

[QUOTE=1Ball]best post in 2 weeks.

extremely sad, dad.

:eek:[/QUOTE]
Actually, ADONIS, I think the following are much better examples of posts within the last 2 weeks which best exemplify the noble purposes of the forum:

[QUOTE=1Ball]Venerable Father, I fear the betel nut has gone to your head again.

Adonis was quite the stud. Not being homophobic in the least, I take the PMs from wise seniors as a testament to their admiration. Thank you boys, but please, no more adulation. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120153[/url] [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=1Ball]Actually Froggie, Piper kept taking more and more pics, he was so impressed. And judging by the PMs I have received, it appreas I should change my handle to [b]"ADONIS"[/b]. :D

Piper, tell the truth, when I went to your room next day to say goodbye, you had printed a dozen or so of those pics and stuck them on the wall, so you could admire them. :eek:[/QUOTE]
There are many more exactly like the above, but you get the idea.

I’m surprised no one has nominated them to Reports of Distinction.

:eek:

Ordinarily, 07, I might continue this, but after perusing a few of your own latest posts, I decided you are just not worth it. Notice, if you can, I never suggested what people whould think. Just making an observation.

buuuuuhhh bye.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Ordinarily, 07, I might continue this, but after perusing a few of your own latest posts, I decided you are just not worth it. Notice, if you can, I never suggested what people whould think. Just making an observation.

buuuuuhhh bye.[/QUOTE]
Oh, now don't get your panties into a bunch, Adonis ...

I was only teasing. :D

Cheers,
Daddy

we need some moderation here. its not so interessting if u guys pays 500, 1000 or 5000 for your pussy, like i really dont care if its 800 or 1000 for a taxi to airport - even the 5 bath/ 10 bath for sangtaew i have seen here!

we need reports about hot girls/places! not all that cheapcharlie crap. price for pussy is 500 bath and up. accept that - and accept if a girl can get more- its her goddamm duty to try!

positive reports mongers! lion in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] gives a superbj if u dont mind a little older and fat!

come on - who, where and how - no more 5 and 10$ discussions!

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]
Super Girls on the other hand, probably has about 70% of the girls as Happy's, but the chances of finding a very high quality girl is much better. [/QUOTE]
High quality in looks yes but performance may be another story. Super Girl and Super baby do have some of the best looking girls but I'm always hesitant to take girls from these places because the girls always appear so distant and dis-interested. Might be a precursor of their performance but the girls are more interested in the Asian Clientele.

[QUOTE=Piper1]It's called "Don Massage" - same street leading down to Pattaya Park Beach Resort, halfway from Pattaya to Jomtien - 5 mins by scooter from Walking Street. I'll look up the full address tomorrow. Great full-body scrub massage, lots of dick-teasing, nice handjob ending. 400Baht/1 Hour. Great body scrub with exfoliating cream. But girls not so good looking.[/QUOTE]What is an acceptable tip for the girl for this service?

[QUOTE=Run Mann]High quality in looks yes but performance may be another story. Super Girl and Super baby do have some of the best looking girls but I'm always hesitant to take girls from these places because the girls always appear so distant and dis-interested. Might be a precursor of their performance but the girls are more interested in the Asian Clientele.[/QUOTE]


That burst my bubble! I being Asian thought they were interested in me because of being a handsome man! Now I'm going to have to use Rule #2 which is overpay even though I can't!

LBM

Just finished a very good session at Yellow House with the cute Pun - one hour lotion massage with Tiger Balm massage on neck and shoulders. Of course, a very happy ending with prostrate massage, half-way through the session.

As for the famous Chompoo - I could swear she was one of the girls sitting outside the shop, but when I asked the Chompoo look-alike her name, she hesitated and said "Om". When I asked if Chompoo was available, they said she doesn't work there anymore. My guess is that she was there, but they want other girls to get some business too. I have photos of all the girls sitting outside, so I'll compare my photos to Chompo's photo later.

Anyway, Pun gave a great service - studying English, sweet and funny with a great giggle. 300 to house and "up to you" tip for Pun - I gave her 300. Let's hope I don't feed the "overpaying" debate.

10:30pm now - the night is young - off to Walking Street!

I have to agree that Super Baby does have good looking girls (my opinion) and a lot are busty. A Gik I use to have (no more) worked there and got the low down on many of the girls there. Performance wise, including the Gik, was so-so. And I disliked the pay up front to the Mamasan bit.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]High quality in looks yes but performance may be another story. Super Girl and Super baby do have some of the best looking girls but I'm always hesitant to take girls from these places because the girls always appear so distant and dis-interested. Might be a precursor of their performance but the girls are more interested in the Asian Clientele.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]That burst my bubble! I being Asian thought they were interested in me because of being a handsome man! Now I'm going to have to use Rule #2 which is overpay even though I can't!

LBM[/QUOTE]
No need to over pay them...just tip them a lot! LOL

[quote=klask]we need some moderation here. its not so interessting if u guys pays 500, 1000 or 5000 for your pussy, like i really dont care if its 800 or 1000 for a taxi to airport - even the 5 bath/ 10 bath for sangtaew i have seen here!

we need reports about hot girls/places! not all that cheapcharlie crap. price for pussy is 500 bath and up. accept that - and accept if a girl can get more- its her goddamm duty to try!

positive reports mongers! lion in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] gives a superbj if u dont mind a little older and fat!

come on - who, where and how - no more 5 and 10$ discussions![/quote]

you're just another irritating guy who doesn't contribute to the forum, but only ask questions and complain! you send just 3 posts. and none of them includes any information at all!

in your first post (from april 2009) you wrote following: "will come next week, so i hope some of you have some tips to me, who is still looking for the best bj ever!"

as we say in danish: you have to contribute, before you can enjoy! but you don't contribute at all. english is not my mother language, but i guess a word like "parasite" could be used in that context.

[quote=klask]we need some moderation here. its not so interessting if u guys pays 500, 1000 or 5000 for your pussy, like i really dont care if its 800 or 1000 for a taxi to airport - even the 5 bath/ 10 bath for sangtaew i have seen here!

we need reports about hot girls/places! not all that cheapcharlie crap. price for pussy is 500 bath and up. accept that - and accept if a girl can get more- its her goddamm duty to try!

positive reports mongers! lion in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] gives a superbj if u dont mind a little older and fat!

come on - who, where and how - no more 5 and 10$ discussions![/quote]you can't discredit all talk about pricing because without knowing the fair market value people can easily try to underpay which will result in upset girls and a terrible experience or overpay and help drive up the price. same with the taxi price... without knowing this info a person could be fooled by a driver asking for 2-3 times the normal amount.

[QUOTE=Kim Wheather]English is not my mother language, but I guess a word like "parasite" could be used in that context.[/QUOTE]

Kim Wheather...............

Touche'

ES

I checked out Super Girl last night after reading Bill Miami's excellent report.

Yes, there are lots of pretty young girls there, and some magnificant tits too.
One young lady in particular with dark wavy hair stands around nude in the Jacuzzi displaying a beautiful set of naturals. They are large and seem to hang perfectly with their pair of lovely nipples pointing upward and outward. Quite a feast for the eyes.

This old farang man (me) got lots of smiles from the friendly girls as well, so they don't appear to be stuck up.

One drawback is that they don't serve draft beer; there is no "happy hour" specials; and a simple shot of Thai whisky on the rocks is 120 baht. Happy a-go-go, Bill's other favorite, has 55 baht drinks during happy hour from 8-9:30pm, and the same drink is 105 baht afterward.

(Oops ... hope I didn't offend anyone by mentioning price) :)

Arrived in Pattaya today, i had to wait for my room at the Queen Vic so decided to take a stroll down the Beach rd not with the intention of having any fun and draining my balls, deprived man i am. Anyhow, happend across a few honeys and eventually this took it`s toll on me. Met Boo, 32, from Isaan and calfless. She was really sweet and told me this was only her third day at work, where have i heard that before, on the forum of course.

Went to a ST love hole over the road, 100 baht, add condom 20 baht and 500 baht for the ride. Boo performed a so so blowie then rode me cowgirl for a time before i blew my load into the bag. Adequate but nothing special. Boo starts her shift at 9am and calls it a day at 6pm, told me she goes straight to bed after work lol. Need to get some rest now, hot as hell, good thing i had the monger hat or would have been microwaved, It`s not a wise idea to be doing any activity daytime, supose it will not be any cooler come nightfall however.

On a different note, i solved my adaptor issues permanently by purchasing a World Adaptor and USB charger, functions in over 150 countries woldwide. Purchased at Heathrow £23. I should imagine they are available at most airports.

[QUOTE=The Departed]Good someone is back on message. The scooter chicks are common in Chiang Mai but I have also been picked up on Second Road a few times. It seems a little pushy for me because the chick has more control. I like it when they have little or none.

These days, I have been playing the dating sites and have struck plenty of gold. So far, I have a nurse who fist fucks, a dominatrix I (mostly) dominated and two government employees who like to tag team before the end of month check comes in. I recommend it.

Keep up the good work Piper1. And thanks again for breaking new ground in the old stomping ground of Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Which dating sites have you been using - I have tried TLL and DIA.

I would be very interested in meeting girlsl ike your nurse or others with those skills.

I been living here for 2 years now, and just so bored of all the Bar shit - need a change / challenge

D

[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]The name is "My Friend You".

You'll find it at Soi6 close from Second road on the right walking till 2nd road.
Soi 6 is full of place where to be blown.

Problem is : will the girl be good enough ? Especially after several day of multi sessions...

As I wrote on my report, Pen, recommended by Byung, was very good.

You can find blow job bar at other places.

In fact, they are not only BJ Bar but they propose also to have sex for ST.

Regards

= = = = =[/QUOTE]Just back from a visit to "My Friend You". Could not remember Pen's name so chose with the eyes, 20 year old May, who had nice soft lips. Unfortunately she had a stuffed nose, which sort of detracted from the experience but things still worked out.

Cost was 300 for the bar and 500 for the lady. It seems odd for the bar to have a 300 baht room charge when things are done on the couch right next to the bar with minimal privacy. Maybe that's supposed to be part of the thrill.

Thanks for the recommendation!

[QUOTE=Run Mann]High quality in looks yes but performance may be another story. Super Girl and Super baby do have some of the best looking girls but I'm always hesitant to take girls from these places because the girls always appear so distant and dis-interested. Might be a precursor of their performance but the girls are more interested in the Asian Clientele.
[/QUOTE]


They may be more interested in the Asian clientele because they are more likely to pay the asking price without haggling --------- you can't blame the girls for getting the highest fee possible, they are in business after all.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]They may be more interested in the Asian clientele because they are more likely to pay the asking price without haggling [/QUOTE]
This is one of the reasons they prefer asian clientele.

I found this on youtube:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYq22fRFB0[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TC48YHplbg[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYq22fRFB0[/url]

[QUOTE=Dans Asia]Which dating sites have you been using - I have tried TLL and DIA.[/QUOTE]What is TLL and DIA?

After my last post on the best Go-Go bars in Pattaya we had quite a few comments on the performance of the girls. Since this seems to be an issue with a few of our regular readers, I thought I would address these particular comments. Before I do that, I would like to say my posts are intended for the tourist visiting Pattaya for a relatively short time in an attempt to provide them the information I would like to know if I were visiting to enhance my experience.

Back to performance, the truth of the matter and this point is not even close to being debatable; you NEVER know how good the girl is going to be in bed until you get her there. Whether she is the best looking lady you have ever seen or the worst, the results can and will vary greatly.

A few tips that can provide you more information on a particular girl to help you make a more informed decision are the following:

1) As I mentioned before, if they are great dancers on stage, then more than likely they are going to be good in bed.

2) When they sit down with you; if they are all over you, kissing and hugging you, that helps a little, but not as much as you might think.

3) If they don't speak any English at all usually means they have only been here a short time and probably don't have to much experience, thus they are not likely going to be too good. But, this can be solved with a little training on your part.

4) Exactly the opposite of #3, if they speak great English usually means they have been here a while and are VERY experienced, thus the better for you. If they happen to tell you they learned English in school and they will, just nod your head that you believe them, but now you know the truth. They learned English in the bars. If they speak great English on the other hand, I mean a girl that you can hold a conversation with; they probably had an English speaking boyfriend for a while and should be pretty good in the sack also, or why else would he of kept her around for long enough to learn that much English?

5) I almost always pass on the really young ones, 18 or 19. When they get to the age of 22 and up they have been around the block enough times to know what's up.

6) As I mentioned before, try and find a girl that likes you. Look for one smiling at you while on stage, one trying to talk to you or one grabbing you as you walk by there bar. Trust me, you might think they do this to everybody, but they don't. Just like us, they have there little things they like in a man and these are a few of there ways of showing it.

Now on to the best performing girls in Pattaya on a consistent basis. Before I get into that, first let me say that any girl and you never know which one can be awesome in bed irregardless of where or how you meet her. You just never know.

It is so sad, that I am on Soi 6 so much in the afternoon that quite a few of the 1,000's of regular girls there know my usual routine. This is to walk up and down the street and have 5 or 6 beers at different bars looking for some hot new talent before making my selection. Needless to say, since I have been with so many of the girls on the street, quite a few of them are upset with me because I have not gone back for seconds. They should have been better the first time is what I always think to myself.

I want to mention a new bar that has been open for about 2 months now. It is about 2/3rds of the way down the street when you're coming from 2nd road on the right hand side. Sorry, I don't remember its name. It is right next to the double bar where all the girls sit outside in evening gowns, which is also one of the best bars on the street. You can find it easy at night because they have 2 girls that dance in the windows.

I like this bar, because in the afternoon it is HOT, and they have the best air-conditioners on the street. And the beer is always kept just above the freezing point, so it is good and cold. In addition, since it is new, the rooms upstairs are the best on the street. I often take girls from other bars where they have bad rooms and pay the additional 300 Baht to this bar so I have a super nice room; it is well worth the money. They also have quite a few very sexy girls more than happy to make you happy.

A few years ago I mentioned one of my favorite bars in Pattaya, "My Friend You Bar" and I see it has now been discussed here a few times. Most of you know it as a BJ bar, but it is much more than that.

The girls here will do anything you want, and I mean anything. You could literally write up a script on a sheet of paper before making your selection and stand over in the corner giving instructions as if you were directing a movie. As far as I know, nothing is off limits; at least I have never found anything that was.

This is always my ace in the hole when I visit Soi 6. If I don't find anything I like elsewhere on the street and only somebody that goes there 3 or 4 times a week like me could not find something they liked. After you live here a while, you get so jaded because of your good fortunes it makes the decision making process a little more difficult.

No matter how drunk I get, and I do get too drunk sometimes I can always be sure I will have a good time and an excellent performance from 1, 2 or 3 of the girls at "My Friend You Bar."

[QUOTE=West Coast]I found this on youtube:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYq22fRFB0[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TC48YHplbg[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYq22fRFB0[/url][/QUOTE]Great! Now there's a memory or two (or four) :-) They also have a few videos on the DD site.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]After my last post on the best Go-Go bars in Pattaya we had quite a few comments on the performance of the girls. Since this seems to be an issue with a few of our regular readers, I thought I would address these particular comments. Before I do that, I would like to say my posts are intended for the tourist visiting Pattaya for a relatively short time in an attempt to provide them the information I would like to know if I were visiting to enhance my experience.

Back to performance, the truth of the matter and this point is not even close to being debatable; you NEVER know how good the girl is going to be in bed until you get her there. Whether she is the best looking lady you have ever seen or the worst, the results can and will vary greatly.

A few tips that can provide you more information on a particular girl to help you make a more informed decision are the following:

1) As I mentioned before, if they are great dancers on stage, then more than likely they are going to be good in bed.

2) When they sit down with you; if they are all over you, kissing and hugging you, that helps a little, but not as much as you might think.

3) If they don't speak any English at all usually means they have only been here a short time and probably don't have to much experience, thus they are not likely going to be too good. But, this can be solved with a little training on your part.

4) Exactly the opposite of #3, if they speak great English usually means they have been here a while and are VERY experienced, thus the better for you. If they happen to tell you they learned English in school and they will, just nod your head that you believe them, but now you know the truth. They learned English in the bars. If they speak great English on the other hand, I mean a girl that you can hold a conversation with; they probably had an English speaking boyfriend for a while and should be pretty good in the sack also, or why else would he of kept her around for long enough to learn that much English?

5) I almost always pass on the really young ones, 18 or 19. When they get to the age of 22 and up they have been around the block enough times to know what's up.

6) As I mentioned before, try and find a girl that likes you. Look for one smiling at you while on stage, one trying to talk to you or one grabbing you as you walk by there bar. Trust me, you might think they do this to everybody, but they don't. Just like us, they have there little things they like in a man and these are a few of there ways of showing it.

Now on to the best performing girls in Pattaya on a consistent basis. Before I get into that, first let me say that any girl and you never know which one can be awesome in bed irregardless of where or how you meet her. You just never know.

It is so sad, that I am on Soi 6 so much in the afternoon that quite a few of the 1,000's of regular girls there know my usual routine. This is to walk up and down the street and have 5 or 6 beers at different bars looking for some hot new talent before making my selection. Needless to say, since I have been with so many of the girls on the street, quite a few of them are upset with me because I have not gone back for seconds. They should have been better the first time is what I always think to myself.

I want to mention a new bar that has been open for about 2 months now. It is about 2/3rds of the way down the street when you're coming from 2nd road on the right hand side. Sorry, I don't remember its name. It is right next to the double bar where all the girls sit outside in evening gowns, which is also one of the best bars on the street. You can find it easy at night because they have 2 girls that dance in the windows.

I like this bar, because in the afternoon it is HOT, and they have the best air-conditioners on the street. And the beer is always kept just above the freezing point, so it is good and cold. In addition, since it is new, the rooms upstairs are the best on the street. I often take girls from other bars where they have bad rooms and pay the additional 300 Baht to this bar so I have a super nice room; it is well worth the money. They also have quite a few very sexy girls more than happy to make you happy.

A few years ago I mentioned one of my favorite bars in Pattaya, "My Friend You Bar" and I see it has now been discussed here a few times. Most of you know it as a BJ bar, but it is much more than that.

The girls here will do anything you want, and I mean anything. You could literally write up a script on a sheet of paper before making your selection and stand over in the corner giving instructions as if you were directing a movie. As far as I know, nothing is off limits; at least I have never found anything that was.

This is always my ace in the hole when I visit Soi 6. If I don't find anything I like elsewhere on the street and only somebody that goes there 3 or 4 times a week like me could not find something they liked. After you live here a while, you get so jaded because of your good fortunes it makes the decision making process a little more difficult.

No matter how drunk I get, and I do get too drunk sometimes I can always be sure I will have a good time and an excellent performance from 1, 2 or 3 of the girls at "My Friend You Bar."[/QUOTE]

Bill Miami,

In Reference to your comments on the bar on Soi 6, being 2/3 or the way down from 2nd Rd. on the right! Although there are bars opening and closing on a regular bases. It sounds like it's the Chili Bar? since this is the only one I can think of that has 1 or 2 girls daIncing behind the glass window? If it is the same bar, it is small and narrow in the front with a smoke glass case where the girl can be seen from the outside. The place open just a few months ago and the rooms are very clean and basic with a Flat screen T.V. in each room, and the shower and bathroom is in the hallway. Material use in the bathroom behind the bar and upstairs are well done. The place is owned by a British guy. Most of the girls are from Ruby Bar and few doors up which is under revovation.

Might be wrong, but sounds like the place.. since most of the places on Soi 6, rooms shows lots of wear and tear!

LBM

[QUOTE=The Scout]What is TLL and DIA?[/QUOTE]

[url]www.thailovelinks.com[/url]

[url]www.dateinasia.com[/url]

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Bill Miami,

In Reference to your comments on the bar on Soi 6, being 2/3 or the way down from 2nd Rd. on the right! Although there are bars opening and closing on a regular bases. It sounds like it's the Chili Bar? since this is the only one I can think of that has 1 or 2 girls daIncing behind the glass window? If it is the same bar, it is small and narrow in the front with a smoke glass case where the girl can be seen from the outside. The place open just a few months ago and the rooms are very clean and basic with a Flat screen T.V. in each room, and the shower and bathroom is in the hallway. Material use in the bathroom behind the bar and upstairs are well done. The place is owned by a British guy. Most of the girls are from Ruby Bar and few doors up which is under revovation.

Might be wrong, but sounds like the place.. since most of the places on Soi 6, rooms shows lots of wear and tear!

LBM[/QUOTE]

It is not Chili Bar. I probably should not mention bars if I don't know the name of it. The next time I am down there I will try and look at its name and remember it.

I know it's not Chili, because as you say quite a few of the girls from Ruby's are working there now while there bar is being renovated. One of them is one of my regulars that I always stop and talk to when I am on the street. She is one that has me on her list at being upset with me for not taking her for a while.

By the way, she is one of the best performers on the street. She is a little older, maybe 35, but she has a killer body with a set of fake 36" and will do anything you want. And I do mean anything.

It is a few doors down from Chili and is supposedly owned by a Thai lady that is there everyday. Who knows who really owns it, maybe she does, I don't know. But, they spent a ton of money renovating it, as all the floors I have been to in the shop-house have been gutted with new fixtures put in.

It does not have a bathroom in every room, but has the standard configuration for shop-houses on that street with the communal showers and bathrooms for each floor. These have all been fixed up and look very nice. The bar has all new linens and towels, a first on this street. They also have a washer and dryer to keep them clean and looking new.

She also has done a real good job of selecting her girls. She has lots of new girls to the street with fresh beautiful young looking faces. In fact, I was with one of her new girls that I did not take because she did not speak a word of English, hence I new she was very new. The owner told me something funny, she said she gave her new girls DVD's to watch to help them find out what foreigners like in bed to help them get better. Now that’s my kind of place, an establishment where the owner is sincerely interested in improving her girl's performance.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]The owner told me something funny, she said she gave her new girls DVD's to watch to help them find out what foreigners like in bed to help them get better. Now that’s my kind of place, an establishment where the owner is sincerely interested in improving her girl's performance.[/QUOTE]
All of the freelancers that I know who have performed a task exceptionally well always say that they learned from the pornos. I was at one of my regular's apartment once and she showed me a stack of them. I would agree that they make a hell of a difference.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]All of the freelancers that I know who have performed a task exceptionally well always say that they learned from the pornos. I was at one of my regular's apartment once and she showed me a stack of them. I would agree that they make a hell of a difference.[/QUOTE]

In all the years I have been here, this was the first time I had heard of video sex training. All this time I thought they just picked up there wonderful techniques naturally. And to think, porno movies are illegal in Thailand.

Although, I do remember when I was living in Bangkok and went for an afternoon session at Eden's and one of the girls was telling me how she was training the other girls on her special double synchronized coordinated BJ method.

I have to tell you, when I was over here on my first vacation during one of these meetings was when I decided when I got home and I would sell everything and move here. If you have never had one, you just don't know what you're missing.

Now instead of paying 3,600 Baht plus tip at Eden's, I just head to "My Friend You Bar" and take a few of my regulars who I have trained the technique to myself and head out to another bar that has good rooms and for less than 2,000 I get the full Eden treatment in a first class room.

I was just thinking to myself as I was writing this that I wonder what the people reading this forum that have never having been to Thailand or Pattaya for that matter think about what all of us that live here say? Do they believe us? Can anyplace in the world be like this? Are we exaggerating?

Reading this forum was the tipping point for me when I was making my vacation decision years ago. Thank goodness I found it, because my life is now so much better than it was back in the states.

Bill Miami,

You must be talking about Dao, older with a killer body and yes one of the best performers on the Soi. from Ruby.

LBM

Thanks for the links WC. I bet Youtube take them down very quickly.

I've never been to DD but have been to Eden several times. From the look of these videos the girls at DD look MUCH nicer. I'd be interested in board members insights into this, are the DD girls nicer than than at Eden? i know it's the same ownership so it's surprising if true.

[QUOTE=West Coast]I found this on youtube:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYq22fRFB0[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TC48YHplbg[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qYq22fRFB0[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Run Mann][url]www.thailovelinks.com[/url]

[url]www.dateinasia.com[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks a ton.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]...her special double synchronized coordinated BJ method.

I have to tell you, when I was over here on my first vacation during one of these meetings was when I decided when I got home and I would sell everything and move here. If you have never had one, you just don't know what you're missing.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like powerful stuff. ;-)

Can I ask (and if you're not comfortable saying it, ok) what this is exactly? I mean, what does she do?

[QUOTE=Wendella]Sounds like powerful stuff. ;-)

Can I ask (and if you're not comfortable saying it, ok) what this is exactly? I mean, what does she do?[/QUOTE]

It is a little bit difficult to describe without going into graphic detail. Just imagine two girls perfectly coordinated simultaneously providing oral sex on each side of your "you know what" for a half hour or so. A real treat I must say.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]It is a little bit difficult to describe without going into graphic detail. Just imagine two girls perfectly coordinated simultaneously providing oral sex on each side of your "you know what" for a half hour or so. A real treat I must say.[/QUOTE]

Ah ok, I see. Sounds like you need 2 girls for that one. Or else a girl who has 2 tongues. ;)

[QUOTE=Artful] I'd be interested in board members insights into this, are the DD girls nicer than than at Eden? i know it's the same ownership so it's surprising if true.[/QUOTE]

Which club has nicer girls is a matter of personal preference.

However, the clubs don't have the same ownership. Edenpapa sold his interest in what was intended to be Eden Pattaya in January, 2007, after the sudden death of his partner in the venture. Marc has not been associated with the Hell Club since February, 2007. The owner is an Englishman who uses the handle Cerberus. He is a really good guy and has the same commitment to customer service as Marc. And Devil's Den is very much modeled on Eden, with the same routines and similar prices.

Evil

just completed a se asia trip that included 10 days or so in pattaya. didn't break any major new ground on the mongering front compared to some of the pros here, but in gratitude for the information on this site i thought i'd dish out all the tidbits from the trip that might be of some use/value in a rep001tershot list. so here goes:

* going rate on beach is still b500, with some taking b400. tourist police sweeps (riding bikes, scooters, etc.) are still common, whether motivated by some event like an international conference (even if it's in bangkok) or, some say, by complaints from the bars about the competition. sweeps i saw were harassment ones, i.e. the girls would go to the other side of the street and then resume as usual when the bikes passed.

* soi 6 still same as it ever was, with most places wanting b300 for st room and b700 (or close, if "up to you") for girl. also saw some of the same faces.

* low season appears to mean a sharper dip in business this year vs. more-recent years. bars are having to offer more and better happy-hour specials, including even some former holdouts to the "b55 draft beer all night" game. walking street fills up later (11-ish), and many who are there are gawkers who don't go in the bars.

* traffic gets progressively worse, as farangs try to bring in their western ways and think it'd be great to have a car or residence "where there's more room or it's less hectic." those who bought any distance from the baht-bus loop (e.g. east of sukhumvit, or too far north or south) are facing increasingly long trips to get to the central part of pattaya as traffic deteriorates all over town (some of the worst knots occur at intersections well outside the central baht-bus loop). it's looking more and more like an urban commute.

* catz has one of the better happy hour deals at b65 for call brands (like a southern comfort-coke) and even bacardi breezer up to 9:30. they'd include cocktails in that as well if you mentioned stickman. i'd bet that deal won't be around in high season.

* a number of go-gos have a maddening 3- or 4-tier barfine system where ordinary dancers are b600, "showgirls" b700, service b700, featured performers b1000, etc. and of course your girl will be priced the highest for some reason. on the other end of the ledger, some bars will do b300 barfine after a certain hour, and i even saw a sign at far east on soi post office that they have that for 8:30 and after. as always, girls in the go-gos will want quite a bit more than ones in beer bars or on the streets as their part of the deal, and may even want bangkok-level prices.

* bars with "groping stages" and/or a high raunch factor include windmill club on soi diamond, baby dolls across from what's up, and x-zone (same building as club boesche) late at night, as well as a reformatted blue lagoon at the back of best friend beer bars. all are wilder than anything allowed in bangkok, phuket, chiang mai, etc. windmill is probably the most popular. but managements have stopped having cashiers give b20 change for gropers/tippers and are prodding the girls toward pushing for lady drinks instead. i guess they don't like people like moi who'll do a finger double penetration and then tip b20. :))

(btw, i'll tip only for a good level of contact that'd get me thrown out of most u.s. clubs. no tips just for looking.)


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at first glance soi 6 looks like a last redoubt for the over-the-hill, but i've come to appreciate it more with successive trips. having a known good performer or two that you can go to during the day is enormously empowering for males. shoot the cannon and you can be totally blase about it that night ("well, maybe if i'm smitten i'll take something back, but i don't have to, etc.")

i learned this the "hard" way over many trips, after which time i finally decided that you can hunt in the beer bars at night or eat dinner with friends, check out the go-gos and other ogling places, but not both. especially in high season, you can't just cruise the beer bars at 10 or 11 and expect to land something good. odds are somewhat better in low season, but it's still a surprising amount of work.

you can't "sit down please" without a specific target, but your efforts to scan-and-identify are greatly hampered by instantly being the center of attention and with everyone at all bars doing the "sit down please" bit. worst of all are places like a few on soi 7 that aren't above using "bait girls" to bring you in but that don't stay with you.

if you do talk to the girl you want, she might fail the interview or do the wrong-time-of-month bit. then you're back to square one. it can take a surprising amount of time & effort if you're the least bit picky.

(resident expats have a huge advantage; they give out cell numbers to girls who performed well, and then become the girls' backup choices to call on slow nights. no need to go to the bars.)

as for soi 6, lek at chili bar (or ruby club once renovation there is complete) is the best oral specialist i've ever seen and probably the most popular girl at the bar for years running now. she's 30-something and not the first to pick based on looks (though i'd still give her a 6.5 or so), but she gets lots of repeat customers and still does the service part impeccably. ruby club also had some of the best rooms on the street and still hopefully will after renovation.

i also like red point, and it's one of those rare cases where the cutest girl in the bar doesn't disappoint. again, the secret is finding a niche, doing it very well, and getting repeat customers. some girls on soi 6 do well for years this way.

(whether they do well or struggle, though, even when the career winds down they definitely don't tend to want to go back upcountry.)

soi 6 also was helpful because of staying some of the time at the amari orchid, which is a wonderful place but supposedly charges a b1000 "joiner fee" to be deliberately not girl-friendly.

(another amari property, the nova platinum at the intersection of 2 road and thappraya (i.e. the turn off downtown to head toward jomtien) is pretty good, relatively cheap and doesn't charge a joiner fee.). sunshine hotel on soi 8 is still a great monger hotel and often available via expedia very reasonably, and the new citin loft near pattayaklang and about 2 blocks inland from 2 road looks to be good value in the b1000 range.

hope some of this helps.

i recently had to return to the bad place (ferrying my older brother to an oas veteran's meeting). he is now past fist fucking and the other hobbies he picked up during those last horrible days in algiers. i am not.

on returning to bkk international, i got a taxi lift from a guy, whose isaan gf met him at the airport with a taxi. they went to their 25k a month pattaya condo (the last one was not good enough for her and her (not his) kid. he sends her 10k baht a week (ie an average of 1, 430 baht a day) to tide her over. the engagement is going well, the wedding is planned for next year and the point is the sky is the limit for pancake faces who play their cards well. though in his 50s, he phoned his parents to say he had arrived safely. the bastard kid, you will be happy to hear, will be going to the best school money can buy.

on recovering from jet lag, i strolled down beach road. only a few hags about. the next few days, there were plenty pussies, many passable, for sale. the better ones get snapped up immediately, thus distoritng the perception presented on this board that beach road lbfms are somehow inferior to go go lbfms. i sat down at the end of central rd and beach rd. after a pair of indians gave up their chase for a plump pump, i asked her did they both want to pump her in a 2 for 1 deal. she said no, one of them just wanted to pay her 700 baht for long time. though broke, she has her standards. the point: the increasing numbers of indians help to depress prices but the lbfms still don't like to give it away.

central plaza, a bit of a white elephant, is pushing prices in the other direction. (though there is a good teet6h whitener deal there), they want shoppers, not the type of farang losers who clog up beach rd. one other thing about central plaza: because the babes there need somewhere local and cheap to stay, you can start saying goodbye to local cut price dives to stay in.

i say down beside a plump young farang, who was drinking beer from bottles he had bought and was eating peanuts. like a lazy monkey, he dropped the shells and beer caps in front of him; he discarded the bottles behind him, obviously too lazy and dirty to put them in a bag. the point: pattaya has to shed losers like him from prime real estate before it can get the spenders. many more farangs, incidentally, seem to be eating off the street vendors, evidence either of hard times or common sense, depending on how you look at it.

on other occasions, there were several young go go quality cuties selling themselves as well as a few who, no exaggeration, looked like they were in the last stages of aids. anal is freely available if you are patient and persistent. sois 7 and 8 are dying: gentrification and those annoying indian wannabe tailors. several of the soi 8 beer bars are glassed in; this ruins the jungle ambience of the place.

happily though, soi 6 is as down market as ever. however, there was some sort of festival on recently, with lots of food stalls on beach road/ soi 6. thai couples and their obese children were there gorging themselves in great numbers, evidence that pattaya could get the bkk fat set if it could only shed a few thousand farang losers.

i did soi metro. the women outside [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and the devils den all looked like they could do with a good feed. it would, imho, be a brave man who would put his cock between any of their lips. perhaps i am wrong as scruffy teenagers with bad teeth are not my type.

in answer to some queries, i have enjoyed a few recent nights of sodomizing some of the local cuties, thanks to dia in particular. and my fist has been up a brace or more of pussies as well.

to those of you who have asked about it: this is not every lbfm's favorite christmas wish. you must read their ads carefully, bring the talk around to the deviant and gently break them into the life. though i, for example, enjoy the whimper of pain they emit when i enter their butts, not every lbfm will oblige.

however, once you get a good performer, you must groom her until she does all your bidding.

let me put it another way. i work out in a gym far away from beach road. today i was admiring the perfectly sculpted ass of a thai lady (probably not a lbfm) working out there. she saw me looking at her (it was hard not to). however, i knew i had no chance in that environment and did not pursue. the lady behind the bar there is a different proposition. she was ogling at me and asked me to sleep with her. (most likely with the usual thai freebie condition$$ attached.). i declined as i had a date.

with a professional dominatrix vacationing here i also met on dia. now i never discuss sex or bdsm with her. she gets that 24/7. however, we often have sex, as much on her conditions as mine. you have to use your brain to enter those markets. some, like perfectly sculpted gym rats, are off bounds to me. others, depending on your inter personal skills, will be off bounds to you.

taking a stroll along beach road, my karma was disturbed by an irish farang collecting discarded plastic bottles to resell them. speaking to the irish guy later, i determined it was time for him to go home, if he has a home. it will take a lot of discarded plastic bottles to fly him out of the land of smiles. i imagine he will be eventually committed here and die an unpleasant death. there are at last 4 other white farangs at the lower rung of the plastic bottle recycling business.

later, i sat on beach road at the end of central rd. i was on the prowl for a likely suspect i had spotted a few days earlier but had not followed up as there was a major rain storm brewing. no sign of the targeted meat so i watched a lbfm take a leak. having duly emptied her bladder, she later sat down beside me and we had a long talk about rep002s, whether she did anal (she did) and general chit chat. determining she was a possibility, we headed off back to my room for a 1000 baht long term fuck fest. (no debating the price, why bother).

i ate her a lot which she enjoyed and gave her three shots, two in the pussy and one in the ass, she came on all three occasions, no condoms used. (good signs) she got three fingers up the pussy and four up the ass so more hope there. no cock sucking, oddly enough but all the other normal services were supplied with a monkey's roguish grin. chit chat revolved around pertinent questions: whether she had ever had female customers (italian chicks like butt plugs it appears but the monkey objected to the guy taking their pic$$$) and the weirdest customer she ever had. this 5 ft bfm should be getting my fist inside her soon. she is a gem to be treasured, nurtured, fist fucked and then discarded.

[quote=ploughman]just completed a se asia trip that included 10 days or so in pattaya. didn't break any major new ground on the mongering front compared to some of the pros here, but in gratitude for the information on this site i thought i'd dish out all the tidbits from the trip that might be of some use/value in a rep001tershot list. so here goes:[/quote]my friend, as a first time poster and someone who recently joined here to 'pre-aclimatise' before his first trip to los i find reports like this truly invaluable. like all monger debates it comes down to opinion rather than fact, but in between i've read some great advice on where's on the up or down, which soi is in decline, where the cheap girls are.

so for all the silent voyeurs out there who dip in here and get all the good advice, thanks brother, for taking the time and effort to share your notes.

and thanks to all the other guys who've posted great reports. my trip was originally going to be half bkk half pattaya, but the closer i get to going (only 21 sleeps left!) the more i'm edging towards pattaya asap.

thanks again

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]The owner told me something funny, she said she gave her new girls DVD's to watch to help them find out what foreigners like in bed to help them get better. Now that’s my kind of place, an establishment where the owner is sincerely interested in improving her girl's performance.[/QUOTE]All filmed in house 55555555.

It could be you!!

[QUOTE=The Departed]The better ones get snapped up immediately, thus distoritng the perception presented on this board that Beach Road LBFMs are somehow inferior to go go LBFMs. I sat down at the end of Central Rd and Beach Rd. After a pair of Indians gave up their chase for a plump pump, I asked her did they both want to pump her in a 2 for 1 deal. She said no, one of them just wanted to pay her 700 baht for long time. Though broke, she has her standards. The point: the increasing numbers of Indians help to depress prices but the LBFMs still don’t like to give it away.[/QUOTE]
I'm feeling you on that TD. I scooped up a Beach Road honey as well performing damage control after some Indian guys had come through. I asked the girl what was the problem. She said that they never want to pay market price. She said everyone knows ST is 500 but they only want to pay 300. I do not understand this seeing that every time I was sitting in a soapie and a gang of Indian men came in they ALL immediately took a girl without even having a seat or getting a drink first.

Back to the Beach Road chick. She was some of the best pussy I have had in Pattaya. After we finished up she took a shower and put on a bunch of makeup. I said damn girl you look like a geisha. You overdid it. She told me that she was going to the disco later that night. I'll be damned if I didn't see her with another two friends in the same spot on Beach Road after I parked my scooter and was walking to the disco. Later on I saw them in the disco as well.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I scooped up a Beach Road honey as well performing damage control after some Indian guys had come through. I asked the girl what was the problem. She said that they never want to pay market price. She said everyone knows ST is 500 but they only want to pay 300. I do not understand this seeing that every time I was sitting in a soapie and a gang of Indian men came in they ALL immediately took a girl without even having a seat or getting a drink first.
[/QUOTE]As an Indian, its really depressing to read stories like these :( 500 Baht is really not a lot of money for an Indian who has enough money to travel abroad. The typical ST rates in India are the equivalent of 1000 Bahts and above and that too for the more undesirable ones (those rates are what I've read on the Indian sub forums on ISG.)

It makes be wonder if anyone actually bothered to check if they were really Indians or they just assumed them to be Indians because they "look" like Indians? Several times I have mistaken people from neighboring countries to be Indians, sometimes even people from the middle east.

The worst part of all this is that, because of these people, the rest of us are denied a chance for a good fuck :( because its easy to get stereotyped.

I've never been to Pattaya but, I'm sure gonna punch a few punters if I ever see this happening myself.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]...Indian guys ... I asked the girl what was the problem. She said that they never want to pay market price. She said everyone knows ST is 500 but they only want to pay 300. I do not understand this seeing that every time I was sitting in a soapie and a gang of Indian men came in they ALL immediately took a girl without even having a seat or getting a drink first.[/QUOTE]

The reason for the confusion here, Mr. Enternational, is that she was misrepresenting the situation to you. Everyone most certainly does not know that 500 is the price for short time because just a year or two ago it was 300, and it is still 300 in many, many occurrences.

Basically if the girl is fat or old, 300 is a lot closer to what she can expect as a rule than 500. If she is young or good looking, of course 300 is not going to be on offer - though it has been sometimes for me with girls who knew me, just because the police were on their way or it was about to rain, and she wanted to just go, immediately.

You have to keep in mind this is low season, and low season in a terrible economy. 300 is very doable with the kind of girl the Departed describes (plump). If the girl you observed being low-balled was cute and thin, however, then those Subcontinental gentlemen were probably hoping for too much.

Opebo, in another report you said that you had a good massage and BBFS at a shop on soi honey.

Can you tell me the name of the shop and the girl if you can remember her name, it would be much appreciated.

Thank you and happy pooning,

Wangho6969

[QUOTE=Ploughman]As for soi 6, Lek at Chili Bar (or Ruby Club once renovation there is complete) is the best oral specialist I've ever seen and probably the most popular girl at the bar for years running now. She's 30-something and not the first to pick based on looks (though I'd still give her a 6.5 or so), but she gets lots of repeat customers and still does the service part impeccably. Ruby Club also had some of the best rooms on the street and still hopefully will after renovation.[/QUOTE]I just came from the Chili bar and I do have to say that Lek is porn star quality on performance and not that bad looking either. I am planning a return performance in a day or two.

I went back to Soi 6 today for one of my usual afternoon entertainment sessions. I made a special point of remembering the name of the new bar I like so much, it is called the "Lisa Bar," after the owner I think. Who knows really?

I like this bar because it is new and has the best air conditioner on the street. I travel from Jomtien which takes about 20 minutes and Thailand is hot, so the first thing I want to do when I get there in the afternoon is to cool down. The beer in this bar is also the coldest on the street; it is so cold it is great.

I started talking to the owner and told her I would mention her bar on the internet and maybe she would get a few customers. So I cut a deal with her for any members of WSG.

When you first sit down and tell her "Internet Special" and "Buy one Beer get one Free" you will get two beers for the price of one. Although this might not seem that unusual for most places, in Thailand it is. It is only good for one free beer though, you can't sit there all day and drink.

After two beers you will have made up your mind weather you want to take any of her girls anyway. She does not have the largest selection, only 7 or 8, but a few are real cuties and all are pretty high quality.

Another thing I like about this bar is that all the rooms are brand new and the best on the street. It is right next door to Red Point Bar, which has been there for ever and is one of the best bars on the street, in addition to having some of the best looking girls on the street.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]
So I cut a deal with her for any members of WSG. [/QUOTE]

I'm sure the members of WSG will be happy, but I'm not sure how the members of ISG will benefit.

Evil

From reading the reports here, I know that it is a blow job bar however does anyone know if you can take the girl back to your hotel room for short time? If anyone have done this, can you tell me what are the costs?

I have been searching for a good hotel and there have been many recommend however it seems like most of the action happens around Soi 6 area so can some one recommend a decent hotel in this area. Don't need a pool, just a clean room, AC and around 1000B

Thanks for the help and is looking forward to visiting Pattaya for the first time in March.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]I'm sure the members of WSG will be happy, but I'm not sure how the members of ISG will benefit.

Evil[/QUOTE]

Maybe a few WSG will visit the bar and like it, who knows. They get a free beer anyway.

[QUOTE=Csun213]From reading the reports here, I know that it is a blow job bar however does anyone know if you can take the girl back to your hotel room for short time? If anyone have done this, can you tell me what are the costs?

I have been searching for a good hotel and there have been many recommend however it seems like most of the action happens around Soi 6 area so can some one recommend a decent hotel in this area. Don't need a pool, just a clean room, AC and around 1000B

Thanks for the help and is looking forward to visiting Pattaya for the first time in March.[/QUOTE]

Everything is negotiable in Thailand, so of course you can take the girls back to your hotel room. The cost depends on the time of day you want to take them as well as how many you want I once. I always like at least two myself.

You don't want to stay around Soi 6, the action is all on Walking Street. Soi 6 is good because it opens up at 1 PM in the afternoon. Walking Street doesn't wake up until 8 PM.

As for your hotel, my recommendation would be to book one for only TWO days over the internet. Then when you get here have a look around and see what you can find. There are a ton of hotels here, you will NEVER have a hard time finding a room and you never know which one is going to have a special.

This girl I met in one table dance place in Soi 15, off the walking street. She was very fit and in good condition. Spent 4-5 days with her, gym everyday, she could easily run 30 minutes which I suspect most bargirls wouldn't do in gym.

In the picture she had rather strong makeup but boy she was fit! Really good turn on for me.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]Everything is negotiable in Thailand, so of course you can take the girls back to your hotel room. The cost depends on the time of day you want to take them as well as how many you want I once. I always like at least two myself.

You don't want to stay around Soi 6, the action is all on Walking Street. Soi 6 is good because it opens up at 1 PM in the afternoon. Walking Street doesn't wake up until 8 PM.

As for your hotel, my recommendation would be to book one for only TWO days over the internet. Then when you get here have a look around and see what you can find. There are a ton of hotels here, you will NEVER have a hard time finding a room and you never know which one is going to have a special.[/QUOTE]

The advice about booking for 2 days is great, this way I can check out other hotels in the day time and give me something to do.

As for taking a girl from the bar, just wondering if anyone have done it.

[QUOTE=Csun213]The advice about booking for 2 days is great, this way I can check out other hotels in the day time and give me something to do.

As for taking a girl from the bar, just wondering if anyone have done it.[/QUOTE]

It is not possible to take girls from the bars in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]It is not possible to take girls from the bars in Thailand.[/QUOTE]It's true. It's against the law for Thai girls to even speak to foreigners. If you do, it may look like you are trying to make them have sex with you. Sex is illegal in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Serial Kisser]

As an Indian, its really depressing to read stories like these 500 Baht is really not a lot of money for an Indian who has enough money to travel abroad. The typical ST rates in India are the equivalent of 1000 Bahts and above and that too for the more undesirable ones (those rates are what I've read on the Indian sub forums on ISG.)

It makes be wonder if anyone actually bothered to check if they were really Indians or they just assumed them to be Indians because they "look" like Indians? Several times I have mistaken people from neighboring countries to be Indians, sometimes even people from the middle east.

The worst part of all this is that, because of these people, the rest of us are denied a chance for a good fuck because its easy to get stereotyped.

I've never been to Pattaya but, I'm sure gonna punch a few punters if I ever see this happening myself.[/QUOTE]
Punch a few punters if you ever see what happening? Your brothers offering to pay 500B or being stereotyped?

I spoke to the Irish plastic bottle collector. He says he makes about 3000 baht a month from it and that he pays no electricity as he uses less than 90 kw a month. The ladies tell me he hits them for 20 baht a time and he also told me some Thai lady, whose farang bf is dying, gives him some money. His nest egg remains banked and untouched. Cheap Charlies please note.

It has been a good few days in the pissing stakes. One good thing about Asian shower rooms is they are fully tiled. I drenched the first Beach Road lady I already mentioned when we were fooling around under the shower. She recoiled at first but then got to shower me and enjoyed it. Then it was on to the bed and the toys, gradually grooming her into the Life. The best thing about this lady ( I get a kick from the LBFMs using this word to describe themselves) is that some black dude is pounding her and paying her 2000 baht a time short time. Moral here is the Beach Road babes can easily command premium rates and, AIDS fears notwithstanding, the black guys can sink their dicks too; I have seen plenty of coal black dudes with cheap Thai pussy hanging out of them. Indeed, they get great welcomes when they pass bars, evidence perhaps that the ladies might lie about their dick preferences and that some blacks might be big if slightly under informed spenders. A tooth cleaning place on 3rd Road has a beaming Obama gleaming out as us with pearl white teeth. Darkie mongers are probably cashing in on that and good luck to them.

On the subject of darkies, another point of interest from Beach Road is the Indian women taking a walk and being hit on. In so much as they are middle class Indians being offered Isaan rates, there might be justified outrage fed back to the concierge and similar coolies at the hotels they stay in (and imagine that, we were only offered 500 baht short time by those pot bellied white untouchables). It would be good fun if we all started hitting on them so as to reclaim Beach Road for its traditional meat market role.

To achieve my mission, I must stay focused. That involves getting the right potential pussies back to my pad, viewing a few relevant videos and gauging the reaction. Ass fucking is always a fall back. Though I do not like tattoos, there is something celestial in ass fucking a lady with a heavily tattooed back (even forgetting you don’t have to look at their pancake faces). Last night’s did a ATM for me, which I do not really like as I have other plans for their mouths. The trick there is to be ready to cum before you go ATM, then immediately cum in their mouths and then a joint shower (which gets us back to the golden gal time). One other thing to note about bare back ass fucking is to be sure to clean your dick thoroughly as it usually has small lumps of her shit attached to it. If you want to give her a smear of brown lipstick, up to you but her shit on your dick can give rise to hepatitis and other nasties and you don’t want any of that.

I have found another potential at the Beach/Central Road intersection. This typically undersized chimp wears a white belt and, of course is an uncovered 3 holer. Oddly enough, her pussy is a good fit, something like a warm glove teenagers would jerk off into. Well worth the chump change.

I got caught up in one of the Volunteer Tourist Police raids. I don’t know who these Blackshirts are but they are assholes. On the positive side, it gives a great chance to check out the chicks. You warn them the Nazis are coming and then cross to the far side of Beach Road with them where you can check out their wares on a no commitment basis. You really have to put in the footwork to get the true 3 holing gems, not the fresh out of the rice paddy teenagers, who are fine if you want a one pop star fish.

Walking Street has plenty of good looking jail bait as well as the world’s ugliest ladyboys (who are obviously getting plenty of custom if their hideous breasts are anything to go by.) The problem with the good looking chicks here is there are too many farangs chasing them, thus inflating their prices and, worse, their egos. I would be interested to know if anyone has rained their waters on any of these hyenas.

This is a major problem as ego is where it is at. When I cuff a chica to my bedhead, it is a signal that I am in charge and that she is my fuck toy. I certainly don’t want her running to the cops (after being uncuffed) or freaking out and screaming her head off. (She usually has to be gagged to stop the screams in any event and I don’t want her running down the road with a butt plug up her ass and a handcuff hanging on her wrist). The Walking Street posers do not fit the bill. Though ex gogo girls and others down on their luck are better bets, a good woman has only so many fuck sessions in her before she is total trash. The challenge lies in finding the happy medium. We don’t want to fuck zombies. The joy is in making them the walking undead.

I checked out the Arab quarter and on through Sunil Plaza. The camel jockeys have a great time doing their Zorba the Greek dances with each other and the Thai women smoke the water pipers like any grand papa in down town Damascus. The Sunil Plaza area, though full of rent boys and aging farang perverts, advertises a lot of cheap rooms for rent so if you want a cheap and quiet room, it might be worth a check out. Just watch your ass when you bend over.

I picked up some Beach Road trash last night and went back to her pad where I buggered her under a photo of HM The King, one of the few photos of HM I have seen around. When she asked me to buy her yabba, I started making my escape plans. In such situations, I always tip reasonably well just to extricate myself.

Extrication is not the fun part. It certainly cannot be compared to that moment of exquisite joy when the shaft of the penis breaches the lady’s ass defences. Once that is done, an easy rhythm can be developed, one that is totally in tune with nature itself. Man is on top and women are getting it up the ass. Nature’s perfect script.

[QUOTE=Csun213]From reading the reports here, I know that it is a blow job bar however does anyone know if you can take the girl back to your hotel room for short time? If anyone have done this, can you tell me what are the costs?

I have been searching for a good hotel and there have been many recommend however it seems like most of the action happens around Soi 6 area so can some one recommend a decent hotel in this area. Don't need a pool, just a clean room, AC and around 1000B

Thanks for the help and is looking forward to visiting Pattaya for the first time in March.[/QUOTE]I have been using [url]www.agoda.com[/url] to book, there are also sites like expeda. I got the Nova Platinum which is just off walking street for about 1000b and it is great.

[QUOTE=The Departed]The problem with the good looking chicks here is there are too many farangs chasing them, thus inflating their prices and, worse, their egos. [/QUOTE]
Yes, very true. This is a recent problem with Pattaya, but not a problem if you got cash to dump!

[QUOTE=The Departed]I picked up some Beach Road trash last night and went back to her pad where I buggered her under a photo of HM The King.[/QUOTE]And people say romance is dead...

[QUOTE=Mouse1]And people say romance is dead...[/QUOTE]
Yeah ... The Departed is a guy who obviously loves women.

Personally, I have been holding back a little since this is the ISG, board! But when I read "The Departed " reports ( just two ) which is informative but gives me a clear indication which I would conclude in short that this is a guy that has lots of pent up issues that come to Thailand to vent and monger.

I guess when you come down from the hills once a year to vacation all I can say right now is HEE HAW YOU ALL!

LBM

[QUOTE=Csun213]From reading the reports here, I know that it is a blow job bar however does anyone know if you can take the girl back to your hotel room for short time? If anyone have done this, can you tell me what are the costs?

I have been searching for a good hotel and there have been many recommend however it seems like most of the action happens around Soi 6 area so can some one recommend a decent hotel in this area. Don't need a pool, just a clean room, AC and around 1000B

Thanks for the help and is looking forward to visiting Pattaya for the first time in March.[/QUOTE]

Recently I visted a new friend who was staying at the Queen Victory Inn, right on Soi 6, For 900 baht it was a very clean room with a couch and large table with excellent WIFI, he also had a small balcony which we were able to see girls on the roof across from the Inn, praying prior to going to work downstairs in the bar. Not sure of the noise level at night when sleeping but certainly very accessible to getting any girl short time or long.

Taking girls from go go's or bars within Soi 6, area shouldn't be any problem. As noted in one of my others reports a friend of mines hangs out in Soi 6, like Bill Miama, majority if not all get off at 1AM, you can always give them your Hotel location and room #, and tell them to come by after they get off. He has many that call him up and stay with him LT, for 1,000 baht so for ST, you can break it down yourself.

If it is too noisy and you like the area,,, you might want to try the Carlton Pattaya which is on Soi 5, for 700/750 baht with a swimming pool just off Second Rd. Get a room next to the pool, nothing fancy but clean the last time I was there.

LBM

[QUOTE=Artful]I'd be interested in board members insights into this, are the DD girls nicer than than at Eden? i know it's the same ownership so it's surprising if true.[/QUOTE]Just for the record: no business connection between the two.

I'd say in terms of looks that DD is a bit better than Eden now. But lookswise the selection at neither is anything to write home about, imo.

From the look of their website... if it's not a bait and switch.. they seems to have a few stunners even?

[url]www.devilsdenpattaya.com[/url]

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]From the look of their website... if it's not a bait and switch.. they seems to have a few stunners even?

[url]www.devilsdenpattaya.com[/url]

LBM[/QUOTE]If not stunners there are some real cuties there, IMHO. As it is probably figure more than face that appeals to me, I find it very useful that the profile page gives weight and height. Last time I memorised a few names based on their vital statistics, then asked them to say their names at the line-up, and that way I was able to match a face (and hopefully a smile) to my earlier preferences.

Interestingly 4 of the 5 ladies I had memorised were not available overnight, so someone else must have similar tastes to me :( But no problem, I had a fantastic Party :)

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Punch a few punters if you ever see what happening? Your brothers offering to pay 500B or being stereotyped?[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I wouldn't punch *anyone* unless thats the last thing I had to do to defend myself. But I'd probably give a earful to my fellow men whose actions give the rest of us a bad name.

As for those who stereotype, well, if they don't want my baht, I'm not gonna argue with them. I'll take my business to those who know better.

I know her, that would be Ya. Formerly of Naughty girls and Misty's.
She is a nice girl, but she gets jelous. The fotos don't do her justes. BUT no eybrows only tatooed permanant eyebrows. About 33 years old.
We used to be friends, but fell out of contact.
Nice girl!
[QUOTE=Diamondiferous]This girl I met in one table dance place in Soi 15, off the walking street. She was very fit and in good condition. Spent 4-5 days with her, gym everyday, she could easily run 30 minutes which I suspect most bargirls wouldn't do in gym.

In the picture she had rather strong makeup but boy she was fit! Really good turn on for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beer 30]I just came from the Chili bar and I do have to say that Lek is porn star quality on performance and not that bad looking either. I am planning a return performance in a day or two.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, typical Lek session for me is about 18 minutes oral and 3 minutes boom-boom ;)

As for hotels (since someone mentioned), FWIW you can sometimes find deals like $40 or $50-off for 3 days (electronic coupons) on dealfinder or travel boards. Orbitz had a recent one with code AORB40. Have done a few trips on those, and in Pattaya it dropped the all-in net per day to $13, even with breakfast and the room booked for 2 people. Sunshine Hotel on soi 8 is probably the best mongering choice linked to Expedia and Orbitz, with Citin Loft another girl-friendly possibility. Expedia also lists the Sawadee places, but I avoid them.

Hotels2thailand.com has lots of places that no one else has...it's run by a Thai travel agency that'll do the bookings via phone if necessary. There are also places like the AA (soi 13) or Nautical (soi 10) that have been around for a long time, are in good locations and can take walk-ins in low season. Rooms can often be a bit tired, though, with not all problems fixed or everything necessarily working.

For first-timers, I'd recommend against booking in Jomtien (too far away from most things) and say to take Naklua or Soi Bua Khaw only if other options in the baht-bus loop are booked out.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Recently I visted a new friend who was staying at the Queen Victory Inn, right on Soi 6, For 900 baht it was a very clean room with a couch and large table with excellent WIFI, he also had a small balcony which we were able to see girls on the roof across from the Inn, praying prior to going to work downstairs in the bar. Not sure of the noise level at night when sleeping but certainly very accessible to getting any girl short time or long.

Taking girls from go go's or bars within Soi 6, area shouldn't be any problem. As noted in one of my others reports a friend of mines hangs out in Soi 6, like Bill Miama, majority if not all get off at 1AM, you can always give them your Hotel location and room #, and tell them to come by after they get off. He has many that call him up and stay with him LT, for 1,000 baht so for ST, you can break it down yourself.

If it is too noisy and you like the area,,, you might want to try the Carlton Pattaya which is on Soi 5, for 700/750 baht with a swimming pool just off Second Rd. Get a room next to the pool, nothing fancy but clean the last time I was there.

LBM[/QUOTE]

Thanks LBM for your response. I will take the advice of some of the guys here and just book any hotel for a couple of days, then check out the other hotels while I am there.

My question is not about taking a girl out of a bar but a blowjob bar. Just wonder if anyone have done this. I know that 99% of the people will just go and get a BJ which I am also plan on doing but just thought if I really like a girl there whether it is possible to take her out?

[QUOTE=Csun213]My question is not about taking a girl out of a bar but a blowjob bar. Just wonder if anyone have done this. I know that 99% of the people will just go and get a BJ which I am also plan on doing but just thought if I really like a girl there whether it is possible to take her out?[/QUOTE]
Brother, Pattaya has well over 10,000 (conservative estimate) ladies for the taking. All the BJ bars together probably don't have a total of 50 and as someone stated before the BJ bar girls are not all that hot. That is probably why most people are seeing your question as irrelevant and not answering. Of all the women in Pattaya there is no need to be fixated on .5% who are not the most desirable anyway. The BJ bar is pretty much a novelty. It's not for everyday use as there are much better options. I'm sure anything is possible though. Services on premises are 700 or 800 baht without a tip. I had a newbie friend who blew his first load fucking a girl inside of a BJ bar. I think he gave 1500. My father did the same and gave 1200 I think. I forget how much the girl gets out of that, but I would estimate that it could run you up to 2000 total for takeaway when you could have thousands of other better chicks from regular bars or ago-gos for way less.

From the Pattaya Mail, 9/4/09:
[QUOTE] Walking Street go-go bar busted for obscene shows

Walking Street’s Rocket Club go-go bar was raided by officers led by Banglamung District Chief Officer Mongkol Thamakittikhun Aug. 19 after receiving reports obscene shows were taking place in the upstairs bar. Officers arrived in time to witness three women performing a show before a packed house. The women were fined and the bar’s owner, Apiwat Jangpol, arrested on operating an pornographic entertainment enterprise. [/QUOTE]
Ordinarily, I would sympathize with the bar owner, as I see no problem with explicit sex shows, but this guy and his Rocket rip-off bar had it coming IMHO, after I reported his scam last March. ;)

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=860579&postcount=1897[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Brother, Pattaya has well over 10,000 (conservative estimate) ladies for the taking. All the BJ bars together probably don't have a total of 50 and as someone stated before the BJ bar girls are not all that hot. That is probably why most people are seeing your question as irrelevant and not answering. Of all the women in Pattaya there is no need to be fixated on .5% who are not the most desirable anyway. The BJ bar is pretty much a novelty. It's not for everyday use as there are much better options. I'm sure anything is possible though. Services on premises are 700 or 800 baht without a tip. I had a newbie friend who blew his first load fucking a girl inside of a BJ bar. I think he gave 1500. My father did the same and gave 1200 I think. I forget how much the girl gets out of that, but I would estimate that it could run you up to 2000 total for takeaway when you could have thousands of other better chicks from regular bars or ago-gos for way less.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your response. I have never been to Pattaya so I didn't know the quality of the BJ girls were that bad. I just knew from the reports that they are great performers. I guess I will just do like all the other punters here and take the girls out of regular bars. Thanks for all the help.

Csun123,

Don't over think this topic son! BJ bars aren't the only ones giving BJ'S and they certainly do not have a license on good BJ'S or bad one.

Where ever you decide to go and take a girl, just make sure she understands what she got to do before taking and paying her for her performance! It's not just Pattaya this should apply no matter what city you are in!

Before you even get here you are already thinking with you little head instead of using your big head. It's the other way around, once you get here use only your little head!

LBM

[QUOTE=Belmont]I know her, that would be Ya. Formerly of Naughty girls and Misty's. She is a nice girl, but she gets jelous. The fotos don't do her justes.[/QUOTE]Well, I have to agree. She is quite much better than one would see from the pictures. Definitely nice girl.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Csun123,

Don't over think this topic son! BJ bars aren't the only ones giving BJ'S and they certainly do not have a license on good BJ'S or bad one.

Where ever you decide to go and take a girl, just make sure she understands what she got to do before taking and paying her for her performance! It's not just Pattaya this should apply no matter what city you are in!

Before you even get here you are already thinking with you little head instead of using your big head. It's the other way around, once you get here use only your little head!

LBM[/QUOTE]

Thanks, I will try to think more clearly. It is just so hard to wait until March after reading all the great reports here.

Csun123,

Oh then, go to the photo section and track down Fun and Sun or Col Bog pictures and videos and take a break. It's a long time to March! March is Hot Hot Hot! at least it was this year!

LBM

During a recent visit to Pattaya, I visited a Soapie on Soi 3. It was on the corner of Soi 3 and Second Road. I believe it was Sabailand.

It had a nice fishbowl setup. I was there early, around 2 pm. So they only had about 10 girls.

I really liked the girl I took. I can't remember her number. But she had a nice chest and long hair. She was a little older, and a little taller than most. The session in the room was good. But they usually are very good.

I will probably return in a few months, and I was wondering if anyone has ever fined a girl out of a soapie? I am thinking it would be expensive. Since they really are very active.

By the time I left the soapie it was after 3pm, and there were approximately 20 women on display.

Nice place.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Csun123,

Oh then, go to the photo section and track down Fun and Sun or Col Bog pictures and videos and take a break. It's a long time to March! March is Hot Hot Hot! at least it was this year!

LBM[/QUOTE]LBM,

The world might freeze over by the time Csun get here ,he been lurking too long should just get busy ,who knows what is going to happen next march .

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Csun213]...the BJ girls... I just knew from the reports that they are great performers. I guess I will just do like all the other punters here and take the girls out of regular bars. Thanks for all the help.[/QUOTE]

Actually I've never found the girls at the BJ bars to be great performers at all. They give BJs that are barely any better than the Beach Road girls give, and far, far worse than what you'd get at Devil's Den, but for something like 700 baht! One can get at least two and maybe three holes on the Beach for 500.

I've always found the BJ places to be a bit of a ripoff with so-so service, but then again I normally can't finish via blow-job.

Anyway BJs aren't very good in Thailand - I've never had one in this country that matched what orally inclined college girls used to give me back before I got old.

An earlier contributor mentioned Pattaya’s traffic problems. The cops should be sorting that out, instead of extracting bribes from all and sundry. The cops are Pattaya’s biggest hassle. Looks like they are into murder too and protecting murderers. I was reading about a Kiwi bodybuilder his go go gal had whacked. She walked. Quelle surprise.
Then we have had a spate of young farangs being arrested for yabba dealing, caught with on average 10 tablets each. At least two of these were French citizens; another obvious cop scam as two French kids selling a fist full of yabba is hardly The French Connection..
A friend was telling me about an English ex policeman kept bound and chained in an Isaan farm outhouse as his beloved ‘s family cashed his pension for months on end. The course of true love does not always run smoothly in the land of Crocodile Smiles.
Another contributor had been spouting on about the Bank of Ayuthaya’s ATMs. Central Festival Mall is full on ATMs on the higher floors – at least a dozen in all I would say, all doing a steady trade. However, a Pattaya scam site tells me the dummy ATMs (false front with hidden camera) have come to Pattaya. This is on top of the keyloggers and the urchins selling roses and pickpocketing on Walking St (where Yenchit, Pattaya’s best money changing rate, opposite Familymart, way up past the ladyboy creatures and the Buddhist tree, is based),
Although that is Pattaya’s best exchange rate, do glance at the other places as you pass. In particular, glance at the LBFMs changing money. Now where did they get the farang loot, except from farangs by way of a generous tip? Contributors here argue about prices but the true blood sucking pros get far more than any of us can imagine.
A few words on ladyboy developments are in order. There is a big tree on the beach opposite Mike’s mall. A towering ladyboy was almost dragging a plump under sized Indian there for a blow job which would have ended in the Indian getting mugged at best. The Indian managed to extricate himself. A group of ladyboys have laid claim to the Beach Road front opposite the PS short time hotel. Three cops escorted the 6 of them down towards Walking Street and ignored all the ladies. More evidence if you need it to steer clear of these thieving perverts.
The Central Festival shoe stores all keep their shoes in pairs, which is handy if you too are a thief. There are also good views of Pattaya Bay from the higher floors but the views of the Beach Rd hookers is, sadly, somewhat obscured. There are also lots of stores catering to children’s clothes and female cosmetics, further evidence that our Cheap Charlie mongering days are numbered.
As regards Indian mongers, of course they cannot all be painted with the same brush. I have seen Indians and Ching Chongs produce large wads of cash (not a wise move but evidence lots of them have lots of loot to burn). I guess Thailand and Thai ladies are still opening up as an Indian destination – they are the future, we water buffalo whites are the past – and so all sorts of Indians are descending on pussyland. Indians like to go around in groups, like the camel jockeys, they have been bargaining for centuries and like the Arabs, they are probably happy to pay for what they want. Many of the smarter go go girls (some of them have good cash registers as brains) specialize in the camel jockey market and will turn their noses up at cheap Charlie whites. Something like the Koreans and Japanese in Thermae and similar Bkk dumps.
It has been a good few nights my right hand which got fully inserted into several lucky assholes and a not so lucky pussy. Our more conservative brethren would be surprised at the hokey pokey their sweethearts get up to. Several of them have produced their own latex gloves for me, evidence that my right hand is not Star Trek, boldly going where no right hand has ever gone before. One of them, Myu (as in the Greek letter), got it up to elbow level. A fist or an arm is not that big a deal when compared to having a baby or being fucked by a horse but I digress.
Having breakfast today at the top of Soi 8 and admiring the cook’s well sculpted ass, I also admired the latex glove she used when cutting up the chicken. When she popped the meal in front of me, I had a horn the size of a baby’s arm. It is the first time in years I wanted to rim an ass in public.
When fisting, I prefer to do it in one fell swoop though tastes do differ.
We had a party in Naklua last night. Gutting the chickens, we call it. It was just your typical downscale orgy. Pere Jacques, a French expatriate (kicked out of the priesthood some years ago for major violations of nuns’ bottoms) threw it. Most of his German neighbors are married to LBFMs from about three different villages. Once a Kraut washes up on these shores, they zoom in on him to bag the cash flow for a LBFM from their own particular village. At night, the Krauts all sit around together, swigging down beer and the LBFMs congregate in three separate groups according to village of origin, chomp on fried roaches and shoot the breeze. Pere Jacques prefers indoor activities. He is a great gagger. This involves making the LBFM swallow his canary until she starts to gag and throw up. A little extreme for most of us, but even ex priests need their hobbies.
He makes his living taking surreal coffee table type pics: roses in a vase of innocent anuses kind of thing. There is a good market for them in Europe, he tells me.
Despite the slings and arrows of life’s misfortunes, Pere Jacques stays true to his roots. One of the night’s many highlights was France’s own La Marseillaise, the world’s most inspiring national anthem tune. (the words are blasé). As its great melody belted out, I came in the peach like anus of an Isaan lady (of the night), who was spread eagled over the wash hand basin
Has anyone else noticed the size and positioning of Thailand’s toilet accessories? The shower sinks are just the right size for taking a LBFM from behind, fondling her tits and watching it all in the mirror in front. It makes a welcome change. Also, most shower heads are detachable.
The women working at the optician’s shop I go to lament that they are not bar girls as they never get a chance to meet farang. I tell them , lament not, they have met a good hearted one in me and that I have a French friend in Naklua who is a great cook of both French and Thai food. I have promised them adventure.
And romance too. We kick started the party with a candlelight dinner and lots of red roses. (Have you noticed there are no good flower shops in Pattaya? Where are the overweight love starved female tourists when we need them?)
Of course, the candle light dinner serves a purpose as hot wax running down uncovered breasts is one of Nature’s most exquisite joys. Though I am sure the Devil’s Den, the Domme com babes, the fetish shops and similar outfits offer such services (it would be a scandal if they did not), I prefer the romantically wild. The roses make good props, sticking out of orifices and adding contrast to the semen soaked brown skin. Roses have to be watered too.
One lucky lady got four cocks into here at the same time. Front, mouth and back are the easy part. The hard part is getting the fourth cock into the ass, in other words two cocks in the ass at the same time. It is done as follows: the LBFM lies face downward with a cock in the pussy and another in the mouth. The third cock pierces her ass by lying on top of her but in the same direction. The fourth and final cock lies on top of her but the other way. Two cocks in the ass can tear the lady’s ass and blood can enter. This will be a problem for the lady if either ass driller has Aids but should not be major concern for the buggers. All of this is irrelevant to me. While the others were drilling away, I was helping myself to some premier French wine to get my bladder tanked up.
Aids is, of course, a problem what with the increasing amount of tourists from India, where 2.5 million have HIV. But if you drink plenty of water and don’t get any of her blood, you should be fine. Central Festival is good that way in that it has plenty of hand gel dispensers. That can slow the spread of genital warts, if that is of concern to you. LBFMs, for all their faults, do tend to scrub up. Remember, when you are doing the pumping, when you are in the driver’s seat, pumping her ass, you are safe. She can look after herself and you cannot grieve over every Isaan LBFM, who ends up in Pattaya.
The Thai beauty at the gym has begun chatting to me. I reckon my only chance of lancing her ass is to play it cool and to treat her like shit. So far, so good in treating her like shit. Let us hope I soon give her a right uppercut that is not in the Queensbury rules. The look of wonderment when she is impaled on my right fist will be worth more than 1000 baht.
I sat down by Central Rd/Beach Rd again and spoke to the Irish guy who continues doing his 3000 bt a month bit for the environment. I cannot understand Mr Potato head’s accent at all and I am sure the Thais cannot either. But when three hookers walked by, he collared one of them, left his five bags of plastic bottles to one side and was making all kinds of lurid suggestions to her in the gibberish form of English he speaks. Gallantly allowing them some privacy, I hobbled off towards Walking St (my feet are very bad right now and I will have to go easy on them if I wish to keep them). Hey Presto, the second ugliest and certainly the oldest piece of meat in all Beach Rd was waddling away with her catch. (And if I thought my feet were bad, that was before I glanced at hers). Then the ugliest one was buying food (now where could Miss Yabba Head have got the $$). So even hell’s hags get laid. The only way those two should expect to get laid is by way of a bet where we say we will lay the oldest and ugliest female we can find. Amazing Thailand.
The hotels are certainly amazing. I see Hotel Florida off 2nd Road near Apex hotel advertizes monthly, weekly, daily and short time rates. There is a good looking bar/ guest house on Soi Buacau a few doors down from Pook Bar, for sale and the Celtic bar around the corner is also boarded up ($$weet heart trouble). Do any of these bars actually raffle off the ladies? I reckon that would be a good gimmick. 100 baht a ticket and first price a bar fine and short time, second prize a bar fine and long time.
What is it with long time? I hire them for fuck toys. When I sleep I don’t want a yabba loving prostitute plotting my doom beside me. Nor do I want to haul one around all day long shopping for them. Pattaya should be all about us, not them.

dear departed,

i have been on this board since 2003, and never have i reported anyone or ran to the moderator like a snitch to prevent anyone from saying their peace on this board. regardless of the board being a sex site and from time to time members might make a slip of the tongue which is very natural or is just ignorant of a word and doesn't justify any kind of response further.

in my years on this board i have seen some come and seen some force out like the late oth, which didn't deserve it and some we couldn't wait until the hook was given to them. you have made appoximately 3 post recently and although you provide a interesting different perpective from your experience there is racism from beginning to end on each of your reports. some members have made brief comments including myself and on the thread " destintion " about your reports. responding on the same thread i made it very cleared my feelings by calling you a " big racist " thereafter some person or persons might have reported me to the moderator or the moderator step in himself and deleted my comments. i have to wonder what these individuals are afraid of that i'm commenting on race on a sex site trying to ruin the atmoshere or something. i didn't bring the topic of race up the poster the departed did, so why i ask is he being protected and allow to post while my comments are being deleted without warning? unless they share the same views!

this sex board have many different nationalities and i'm not here to defend the minority or put a damper on the site but i'm a little pissed that the departed can use words "monkey" "darkies" "ching chong" along with using the word " lbfm " ( got it right this time t.t. ) a dozen times. in all my years i have never seen this word use this many times and in 3 long reports like he has a patent on the usage! yet i respond honestly and i'm deleted.

some might feel i should lighten up in regards to this topic. i can take and dish it out with the best of them but i don't appreciate being deleted in regards to this topic and it really pisses me off. here you have a guy that clearly has issues about race and if he knew the rascist words for koreans, japanese, and indians he would have use them too. who knows maybe he recently found out that he is no longer a owner of a slave plantation and can't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] them any longer so he's here in thailand. that all the american indians are running the gambling casino that he lost all his hard earn money! maybe because gm, is no longer fixing his redneck truck, and he found out everything that walmart sells comes from china! and the bailout money for cars only benefited honda and toyota! who knows wtf makes this redneck ticks? that might make any redneck starts fist fucking! top that off that his older brother is marrying a lbfm who he feels is ripping him off. the list goes on and on with this guy i have heard it all growing up and in prison. no matter how you hide it this guy is a " big racist " and should be able to freely post as you have allowed him because members see him for what he is...

but don't fucking try to sensor or delete my post because you don't have the balls to allow the conversation to go on but you allow him to make his racist reports. stand up for something instead of the worrying about the $19.95! membership!

from here i'll be glad to take up the debate with anyone including the departed on the expat board under racism!



lbm

LBM, excellent post.

I find the posts by the departed to be disgusting at best.

Shame on admin for deleting your posts which bring up your concerns, but let this pig continue to degrade women.

How hypocritical that words like wh0re and bi*ch are not allowed, but all the wonderful terms this guy uses are allowed.

LBM,

I think you wrongly assume that TheDeparted is an American.

Based on some of the wording in the posts I would guess he's a Brit.

I have never heard an American refer to grandfather as gran papa.

Same here. Is really disgusting reading the reports of someone who enjoys harming girls who gives us so much for so little.

Is specially pathetic that he feels kind of cool, when he is just one step from becoming a psychopath.

(I wasn't going to write anything, but another poster putting links in the reports of distinction was just too much.)

[quote=opebo]actually i've never found the girls at the bj bars to be great performers at all. they give bjs that are barely any better than the beach road girls give, and far, far worse than what you'd get at devil's den, but for something like 700 baht! one can get at least two and maybe three holes on the beach for 500.

i've always found the bj places to be a bit of a ripoff with so-so service, but then again i normally can't finish via blow-job.

[/quote]

i think [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] has pretty stable quality in terms of delivery and no "take too long" "you cum soon" etc. the bars with under the table service are really varied, and after they bumped up prices from 375 baht to 875 baht not worthwhile of going to, imho. that being said, it is an experience to sit at a bar, sipping a beer, watching a porno playing on the tv with a girl working away down there, so anyone not having been should check this out at least once i think.

My first day in famous Pattaya. What can I say, selection selection. Perhaps 2 ladies for every gent. It does seem that it's really quiet here. I wonder if it's the economy or just the season.

I did a bit of wandering about, checking the sights along beach rd and then into walking street. Lots of ok ladies, 5's-7's. As it's been a while, I decided to check out some of the higher caliber talent. That lead me eventually to Supergirls (I think that was the name. The big joint mentioned in this thread a lot). It sure did live up to the billing. Lots of very nice ladies.

After scanning the alternatives, I decided on miss Non. Very nice body, great smile, young (she said 21). She spoke a little english. Was a bit shy and obviously not long a professional at this. On entering my room, she did the usual avoidance tactics. Sat on the bed for a while. Pretending not to know what to do.

I finally got her into the shower, checking out her fine, young body. Dried off and into bed. She was quite reluctant to get her engine going. Fair BBJ with a few complaints along the way. A bit of a dead fish when the time came, only knowing one position. Ah well. Make the best of it.

She did the don't touch me thing while sleeping. Started to whine about being hungry at about 3. I told her. One more time and you can go. She snapped too at that point seeing an exit not far off. Another mechanical round, she cleaned up and darted off into the night.

I should have listened to my better judgment. For for a more seasoned pro and leave the eye candy to ripen on the vine a bit.

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Lesson learned (again) from night 1, as I walk through the early evening, my thoughts of finding the right lady. Still very sexy but a bit more of that raw sexy NE Thai lady thing.

I can't recall her name, she said she was 28. Watching her dance at Shark, she smiled at me several times, indicating she was interested. The joint was really quite. During my stay, perhaps just 4-5 guys.

After survey of the ladies. I decided to offer her LT. She jumped at the offer. Bar fine and such later. We stopped at 7-11 for something to drink then back to my room. This was more like it. After a Hello, farang kiss, she easily stripped and joined me in the shower. Perhaps not the best body but certainly a good attitude.

She really liked DATY. I had her straddle my head while on her knees, hands against the head board, while she wiggled her moistness into my mouth. Definitely more like it. I think we did 2 or 3 rounds just on introduction. A bit of sleep and I found her welcome hands on me again at about 3am, wanting another sample. We woke at 7 for a good morning bang, shared a nice shower together. She almost walked out forgetting to pick up the money I left for her on the table near her purse.

I'd do her again, no problem. One happy customer.

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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]LBM,

The world might freeze over by the time Csun get here ,he been lurking too long should just get busy ,who knows what is going to happen next march .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]

I know that March is too far away. I have been counting the days however I just got back from China and Taiwan so I can't just go running off right away. Actually I can but I shouldn't. I am meeting some friends in Bangkok in March and they have been planning it for a few months therefore I have to show up.

I have actually thought about coming down earlier but the timing just not working out.

Hey 1Ball !

Some things never change. It just takes one or two crack pots to stir up the masses big time.

I was kinda surprised to see that my old password still works. Thanks Jackson.

I know nothing of the conflict here and care little. But to Mr. LBM (eloquent as ever), as a Redneck I'm happy to report that in the Cash for Clunkers program the final numbers were the big three of Detroit edging out the big three of Japan by 2%. Statistically irrelevant in terms of victory, but clearly not a runaway by anyone. Keep up the good fight. No room for racist here.

Me.... many may not know me. I've traveled Asia a lot. Sported along with a few of you and have been absent due to monogamy. Ugly word. My expertise is actually the Philippines.

I do miss this place, tons of good info, just takes some sifting of chafe.

FD

[QUOTE=The Departed]An earlier contributor mentioned Pattaya’s traffic problems. The cops should be sorting that out, instead of extracting bribes from all and sundry. The cops are Pattaya’s biggest hassle. Looks like they are into murder too and protecting murderers. I was reading about a Kiwi bodybuilder his go go gal had whacked. She walked. Quelle surprise.
Then we have had a spate of young farangs being arrested for yabba dealing, caught with on average 10 tablets each. At least two of these were French citizens; another obvious cop scam as two French kids selling a fist full of yabba is hardly The French Connection..
A friend was telling me about an English ex policeman kept bound and chained in an Isaan farm outhouse as his beloved ‘s family cashed his pension for months on end. The course of true love does not always run smoothly in the land of Crocodile Smiles.
Another contributor had been spouting on about the Bank of Ayuthaya’s ATMs. Central Festival Mall is full on ATMs on the higher floors – at least a dozen in all I would say, all doing a steady trade. However, a Pattaya scam site tells me the dummy ATMs (false front with hidden camera) have come to Pattaya. This is on top of the keyloggers and the urchins selling roses and pickpocketing on Walking St (where Yenchit, Pattaya’s best money changing rate, opposite Familymart, way up past the ladyboy creatures and the Buddhist tree, is based),
Although that is Pattaya’s best exchange rate, do glance at the other places as you pass. In particular, glance at the LBFMs changing money. Now where did they get the farang loot, except from farangs by way of a generous tip? Contributors here argue about prices but the true blood sucking pros get far more than any of us can imagine.
A few words on ladyboy developments are in order. There is a big tree on the beach opposite Mike’s mall. A towering ladyboy was almost dragging a plump under sized Indian there for a blow job which would have ended in the Indian getting mugged at best. The Indian managed to extricate himself. A group of ladyboys have laid claim to the Beach Road front opposite the PS short time hotel. Three cops escorted the 6 of them down towards Walking Street and ignored all the ladies. More evidence if you need it to steer clear of these thieving perverts.
The Central Festival shoe stores all keep their shoes in pairs, which is handy if you too are a thief. There are also good views of Pattaya Bay from the higher floors but the views of the Beach Rd hookers is, sadly, somewhat obscured. There are also lots of stores catering to children’s clothes and female cosmetics, further evidence that our Cheap Charlie mongering days are numbered.
As regards Indian mongers, of course they cannot all be painted with the same brush. I have seen Indians and Ching Chongs produce large wads of cash (not a wise move but evidence lots of them have lots of loot to burn). I guess Thailand and Thai ladies are still opening up as an Indian destination – they are the future, we water buffalo whites are the past – and so all sorts of Indians are descending on pussyland. Indians like to go around in groups, like the camel jockeys, they have been bargaining for centuries and like the Arabs, they are probably happy to pay for what they want. Many of the smarter go go girls (some of them have good cash registers as brains) specialize in the camel jockey market and will turn their noses up at cheap Charlie whites. Something like the Koreans and Japanese in Thermae and similar Bkk dumps.
It has been a good few nights my right hand which got fully inserted into several lucky assholes and a not so lucky pussy. Our more conservative brethren would be surprised at the hokey pokey their sweethearts get up to. Several of them have produced their own latex gloves for me, evidence that my right hand is not Star Trek, boldly going where no right hand has ever gone before. One of them, Myu (as in the Greek letter), got it up to elbow level. A fist or an arm is not that big a deal when compared to having a baby or being fucked by a horse but I digress.
Having breakfast today at the top of Soi 8 and admiring the cook’s well sculpted ass, I also admired the latex glove she used when cutting up the chicken. When she popped the meal in front of me, I had a horn the size of a baby’s arm. It is the first time in years I wanted to rim an ass in public.
When fisting, I prefer to do it in one fell swoop though tastes do differ.
We had a party in Naklua last night. Gutting the chickens, we call it. It was just your typical downscale orgy. Pere Jacques, a French expatriate (kicked out of the priesthood some years ago for major violations of nuns’ bottoms) threw it. Most of his German neighbors are married to LBFMs from about three different villages. Once a Kraut washes up on these shores, they zoom in on him to bag the cash flow for a LBFM from their own particular village. At night, the Krauts all sit around together, swigging down beer and the LBFMs congregate in three separate groups according to village of origin, chomp on fried roaches and shoot the breeze. Pere Jacques prefers indoor activities. He is a great gagger. This involves making the LBFM swallow his canary until she starts to gag and throw up. A little extreme for most of us, but even ex priests need their hobbies.
He makes his living taking surreal coffee table type pics: roses in a vase of innocent anuses kind of thing. There is a good market for them in Europe, he tells me.
Despite the slings and arrows of life’s misfortunes, Pere Jacques stays true to his roots. One of the night’s many highlights was France’s own La Marseillaise, the world’s most inspiring national anthem tune. (the words are blasé). As its great melody belted out, I came in the peach like anus of an Isaan lady (of the night), who was spread eagled over the wash hand basin
Has anyone else noticed the size and positioning of Thailand’s toilet accessories? The shower sinks are just the right size for taking a LBFM from behind, fondling her tits and watching it all in the mirror in front. It makes a welcome change. Also, most shower heads are detachable.
The women working at the optician’s shop I go to lament that they are not bar girls as they never get a chance to meet farang. I tell them , lament not, they have met a good hearted one in me and that I have a French friend in Naklua who is a great cook of both French and Thai food. I have promised them adventure.
And romance too. We kick started the party with a candlelight dinner and lots of red roses. (Have you noticed there are no good flower shops in Pattaya? Where are the overweight love starved female tourists when we need them?)
Of course, the candle light dinner serves a purpose as hot wax running down uncovered breasts is one of Nature’s most exquisite joys. Though I am sure the Devil’s Den, the Domme com babes, the fetish shops and similar outfits offer such services (it would be a scandal if they did not), I prefer the romantically wild. The roses make good props, sticking out of orifices and adding contrast to the semen soaked brown skin. Roses have to be watered too.
One lucky lady got four cocks into here at the same time. Front, mouth and back are the easy part. The hard part is getting the fourth cock into the ass, in other words two cocks in the ass at the same time. It is done as follows: the LBFM lies face downward with a cock in the pussy and another in the mouth. The third cock pierces her ass by lying on top of her but in the same direction. The fourth and final cock lies on top of her but the other way. Two cocks in the ass can tear the lady’s ass and blood can enter. This will be a problem for the lady if either ass driller has Aids but should not be major concern for the buggers. All of this is irrelevant to me. While the others were drilling away, I was helping myself to some premier French wine to get my bladder tanked up.
Aids is, of course, a problem what with the increasing amount of tourists from India, where 2.5 million have HIV. But if you drink plenty of water and don’t get any of her blood, you should be fine. Central Festival is good that way in that it has plenty of hand gel dispensers. That can slow the spread of genital warts, if that is of concern to you. LBFMs, for all their faults, do tend to scrub up. Remember, when you are doing the pumping, when you are in the driver’s seat, pumping her ass, you are safe. She can look after herself and you cannot grieve over every Isaan LBFM, who ends up in Pattaya.
The Thai beauty at the gym has begun chatting to me. I reckon my only chance of lancing her ass is to play it cool and to treat her like shit. So far, so good in treating her like shit. Let us hope I soon give her a right uppercut that is not in the Queensbury rules. The look of wonderment when she is impaled on my right fist will be worth more than 1000 baht.
I sat down by Central Rd/Beach Rd again and spoke to the Irish guy who continues doing his 3000 bt a month bit for the environment. I cannot understand Mr Potato head’s accent at all and I am sure the Thais cannot either. But when three hookers walked by, he collared one of them, left his five bags of plastic bottles to one side and was making all kinds of lurid suggestions to her in the gibberish form of English he speaks. Gallantly allowing them some privacy, I hobbled off towards Walking St (my feet are very bad right now and I will have to go easy on them if I wish to keep them). Hey Presto, the second ugliest and certainly the oldest piece of meat in all Beach Rd was waddling away with her catch. (And if I thought my feet were bad, that was before I glanced at hers). Then the ugliest one was buying food (now where could Miss Yabba Head have got the $$). So even hell’s hags get laid. The only way those two should expect to get laid is by way of a bet where we say we will lay the oldest and ugliest female we can find. Amazing Thailand.
The hotels are certainly amazing. I see Hotel Florida off 2nd Road near Apex hotel advertizes monthly, weekly, daily and short time rates. There is a good looking bar/ guest house on Soi Buacau a few doors down from Pook Bar, for sale and the Celtic bar around the corner is also boarded up ($$weet heart trouble). Do any of these bars actually raffle off the ladies? I reckon that would be a good gimmick. 100 baht a ticket and first price a bar fine and short time, second prize a bar fine and long time.
What is it with long time? I hire them for fuck toys. When I sleep I don’t want a yabba loving prostitute plotting my doom beside me. Nor do I want to haul one around all day long shopping for them. Pattaya should be all about us, not them.[/QUOTE]

This is over the line. Packed with racial slurs. If this doesn't violate board rules, what possibly could.

[QUOTE=Wendella]This is over the line. Packed with racial slurs.[/QUOTE]


Then why would you repost it by quoting the entire report?

Why are you all getting hot under the collar about The Departed? His reports are intelligently written and darkly humorous. He probably wouldn't need to make the references he does if Pattaya wasn't full of sad twits looking for romance with prostitutes, instead of good old fashioned mongers.

BTW I do not see a British connection...not too many Brits in the OAS.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Then why would you repost it by quoting the entire report?[/QUOTE]

To draw attention to it. Protest.

To ignore it is to accept it. To say it's ok. It's not.

People who have a problem with it should report it to Jackson. It definitely violates his rules. No offensive posts--no racist messages. I dont' think LBM is correct, I tend to think Jackson hasn't read it yet, isn't aware of what's in it. I don't think he'd endorse what's in that post.

[QUOTE=Wendella]To draw attention to it. Protest.

To ignore it is to accept it. To say it's ok. It's not.

People who have a problem with it should report it to Jackson. It definitely violates his rules. No offensive posts--no racist messages. I dont' think LBM is correct, I tend to think Jackson hasn't read it yet, isn't aware of what's in it. I don't think he'd endorse what's in that post.[/QUOTE]


I agree with the sentiments in your last paragraph.

I would say though that you can protest the report, (or report it to the MOD) or bring attention to it without reposting the entire offensive report. If Jackson was unaware of the report, I’m sure it has now been reported to him.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Anyway BJs aren't very good in Thailand - I've never had one in this country that matched what orally inclined college girls used to give me back before I got old.[/QUOTE]

Hey Opebo,

Am afraid I have to disagree with you a bit on that, there is the occasional Thai girl with very good oral skills.

Like Ms. Na for example: :)

[url]http://www.******.com//modules.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=370488[/url]

Firedick,

I still remember the name. I just used the word Redneck and it is a big generalization. Very few are filled with this type of hate and Ignorance! but at the same time can write a good story if he left all the bullshit out! I'm surprise he can even have a good time here while walking around and visiting Bars and GoGo with his white sheet and hood. But anything is possible in Pattaya if the price is right!

I just want to make it clear! I haven't reported him to the Moderator and don't plan to because I don't feel he should waste his time with this racist. I have posted my opinion out in the open and I think the Board in time will self correct people like this because in time what goes around comes around!

Welcome back Firedick! Just LBM, the Mister just doesn't feel right!

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]..there is the occasional Thai girl with very good oral skills.[/QUOTE]

I looked at the video and I'm afraid it looked really so-so to me. Where's the slobbering? Where's the gagging? Where's the powerful suction? Where's the 'POP!' when it comes out of her mouth? Where's the enthusiasm, real or faked? I've had those things sometimes with american girls, but very rarely if ever with Thais.

Oh, and btw, the Departed's posts are the most entertaining and informative pieces I've read on here in a while. Sure, they're way below the level of previous masters who were run out of here by the censorship crowd (I'm thinking of That Asshole), but they're still better than 90% of what's posted.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Actually I've never found the girls at the BJ bars to be great performers at all. They give BJs that are barely any better than the Beach Road girls give, and far, far worse than what you'd get at Devil's Den, but for something like 700 baht! One can get at least two and maybe three holes on the Beach for 500.

I've always found the BJ places to be a bit of a ripoff with so-so service, but then again I normally can't finish via blow-job.

Anyway BJs aren't very good in Thailand - I've never had one in this country that matched what orally inclined college girls used to give me back before I got old.[/QUOTE]I almost agree. Almost because there is still Bangkok with SOL. There you will get a real treat. The best ones i was lucky to experience (and tons of mediacre ones as well).

A must see documentary for first time visitors to Pattaya.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Bjmemu474[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5rh9SRp9Hc[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_0vZrpQ8QU&feature=related[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXNQEvddjw[/url]

Pretty interesting and well worth the time to view all.

[QUOTE=Jdbkk555]My first day in famous Pattaya. What can I say, selection selection. Perhaps 2 ladies for every gent. It does seem that it's really quiet here. I wonder if it's the economy or just the season.

I did a bit of wandering about, checking the sights along beach rd and then into walking street. Lots of ok ladies, 5's-7's. As it's been a while, I decided to check out some of the higher caliber talent. That lead me eventually to Supergirls (I think that was the name. The big joint mentioned in this thread a lot). It sure did live up to the billing. Lots of very nice ladies.

After scanning the alternatives, I decided on miss Non. Very nice body, great smile, young (she said 21). She spoke a little english. Was a bit shy and obviously not long a professional at this. On entering my room, she did the usual avoidance tactics. Sat on the bed for a while. Pretending not to know what to do.

I finally got her into the shower, checking out her fine, young body. Dried off and into bed. She was quite reluctant to get her engine going. Fair BBJ with a few complaints along the way. A bit of a dead fish when the time came, only knowing one position. Ah well. Make the best of it.

She did the don't touch me thing while sleeping. Started to whine about being hungry at about 3. I told her. One more time and you can go. She snapped too at that point seeing an exit not far off. Another mechanical round, she cleaned up and darted off into the night.

I should have listened to my better judgment. For for a more seasoned pro and leave the eye candy to ripen on the vine a bit.

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If you meet a young girl that speaks little or no English, then more than likely she is very new to the seen and therefore is not going to be very experienced in the sack.

The girls at the Go-Go bars work a shift something like 7PM to 3AM, and then sleep from 5AM till noon or so the next day. If you bar fine a girl for long-time from a Go-Go at 10PM or so, well she does not regularly go to sleep for 7 hours. Just because you have been drinking for hours and are ready for sleep, certainly does not mean she is.

If you watch the girls you will see the usually step out of the bars sometimes in the middle of there shift to have for them what would be lunch. And when they leave the bar many of them get something to take home for dinner.

If you invite somebody to your home for 12 hours or so, aren't you going to offer them something to eat? Of course you are, if you’re a conscientious person. So, why would you not do the same for the girl when she told you she was hungry?

This guy had an average experience with a very attractive girl, but reading the board, following the advice given on the board and a little bit of common sense on his part, he could have turned into an exceptional experience.

I have written many times, the amount of fun you are going to have is directly related to the girl.

For all of you that are coming over here on vacation, do one little thing before you get here and you will be paid back ten fold.

Go to the flea market or someplace where you can get some very cheap T-Shirts with the name of your home town on it and buy ten or so. The girl's favorite color is Black by the way, by a large margin and make sure to get small sizes. You can also pick up some cheap bottles of perfume if you like.

Then as soon as you get to your hotel give them a shirt or bottle of perfume, better yet, let them select it themselves. I can not tell you how much they love this and the reaction you will receive. This very little jester alone could have saved this encounter.

I did not think I needed to mention this before, but I will now after reading this post. If your taking a girl for a long-time, then make sure you have access to food she will like. There are food stands everywhere, and the girls eat at them everyday, just ask her which one she wants to stop as you are leaving the bar, she will tell you. The meals only cost 30 Baht, let her have two or three, what do you care?

Make sure to stop at a 7-11 or Family Mart, they are on every corner. Let her pick out what she wants to drink. DO NOT under any circumstances assume if you have something in your hotel room you like to eat or drink, she will also like it. Many of the girls, even the ones that have been here for a while, will NOT eat any foreign food at all.

All this guy had to do was think ahead a little and treat the girl like he would have wanted to be treated and he would have had a wonderful time as opposed to an average evening. The better you treat them, the better you are going to be treated, end of story.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]A must see documentary for first time visitors to Pattaya. [/QUOTE]

Jejeje I don't think the average user of ISG would fit here.

I am visiting Pattaya for first time for a week from Oct 3rd and have been reading your reports which have been great. One bit of guidance I would like regards trying to ID LB's. Is it OK to ask girls to see their ID? . Do they take offence? . Are there fake ID's (stupid? I know). How can I know genuine ID's

Also weatherwise is it likely to be rainy then?

Thanks guys

Enbut

Thank you for the links,

Interesting stuff & the message is quite clear:

Any Foreigner in trouble over there is usually in more trouble than they first thought. Here's the Bravo tv link with some more interesting points including a questionaire on how to keep out of trouble.

[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/shows/big-trouble-in-thailand/[/url]

[QUOTE=Run Mann]A must see documentary for first time visitors to Pattaya.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Bjmemu474[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5rh9SRp9Hc[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_0vZrpQ8QU&feature=related[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXNQEvddjw[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Opebo]I looked at the video and I'm afraid it looked really so-so to me. Where's the slobbering? Where's the gagging? Where's the powerful suction? Where's the 'POP!' when it comes out of her mouth? Where's the enthusiasm, real or faked? I've had those things sometimes with american girls, but very rarely if ever with Thais.
[/QUOTE]

Hey, I was there, it was a really really good bj! :)

Not pornstar style great like you describe, but a really good one. I agree with you that Thai girls are pretty far down the world wide ranking in terms of BJ skills though, but there is the occasional gem out there.

[QUOTE=Enbut]I am visiting Pattaya for first time for a week from Oct 3rd and have been reading your reports which have been great. One bit of guidance I would like regards trying to ID LB's. Is it OK to ask girls to see their ID? . Do they take offence? . Are there fake ID's (stupid? I know). How can I know genuine ID's

Also weatherwise is it likely to be rainy then?

Thanks guys

Enbut[/QUOTE]

Gals are ok with showing their IDs if they have them, no offense taken.
Spotting fakes are easy.
1)just ask anyone at your hotel desk to show you their ID so you know what to look for, then also have them show you where is the birthdate and how to calculate the age.

Oct should be ok weatherwise.


So go out there and enjoy it rookie.
Shark

LBM,

Not offended at all by the term.

I'm just going to "lurk". Having not been to Asia in two years, I've got very little to contribute. This place is still a good read though. May make me miss it enough to go despite to little woman !

Cheers,

FD

A few people taking sides on whether Departed should be banned or is the best thing to come along in a while.

First, we are all posting or reading posts about doing everything conceivable (sexually) to young women, most of which would be extremely offensive to much of society.

And what is our collective response to that? "Fuck off" if you don't like it, and get over your prudish morality.

I think the same could be said to those offended by Departed. Don't read his stuff.

Second, I don't think Departed really does and says and thinks all the things he posts. He's just a very colorful writer.

Third, I think he's funny as hell and very entertaining.

hobbling along beach rd, i spotted a blind farang, complete with white stick, being led along by a thai hooker. i wonder how the hooked hooked the hooker. people here argue about prices, about long nosed v short nosed hookers, but even the legless, the blind and the insane can all get a fuck here if they have beggar’s change on them. i saw an iranian heading off with three young hookers in tow. bad move for him, as it means three pay checks and bad service. still, it will get rid of one of his fantasies for him. let’s hope he doused all three of them with the rivers of babylon.
i picked up a brace myself, a young newbie with a lovely, very fuckable ass and her older minder. back to their 2000 bt a month pad (go up from 2nd rd through new plaza across soi bucauw, and up the street that is a continuation of new plaza, lots of cheap and quiet rooms thai hooker quality rooms there). the stairways had more shoes than imelda marcos. toilet outside which did not help in the pissing stakes but the older one gave me a 3 hour massage and the younger sister got it bareback twice up the ass and once in the pussy, all of which she enjoyed. the bigger sister went out for a leak and when she returned, she was greeted by the sight of her sister enjoying a solid, methodical bareback ass pounding. jealousy got her nowhere and he sister got all my valuable sperm that night, for which she was most grateful. after i came inside her, she would watch the tv and the older hag would massage me. big sister also rimmed my lovely ass as i pounded younger sister. i no longer enjoy this as i feel it important to focus on fucking and not also have to spread the cheeks of my unwashed ass to accept her tongue. though animals always lick their lovers’ asses, i am not sure if they do this when fucking. can anyone advise?
the two sisters originally asked for 800 bt so maybe i am spoiling the market as well as them, as i gave them 1100bt. they came here, sleeping on the beach, showering for 10 bt until they got their first customers. i was their combined ninth. guess the sky is their limit now. let us hope they get some farang sucker to take care of them and their families.
not one of the ladies i have golden showered has complained to me and i always act like a gentleman. i am now even allowing them watch the tv and occasionally to use their phones. i allow their dreams to live and they appreciate that. unlike the love sotten farang, their dreams are not in conflict with reality every second of the day. i treat them better than most would treat cheap hookers. we should always be gentlemen and never for an instant forget our standards.
we must also accept buddhism, their belief system, which puts them at the base of the totem pole. buddhism says it is punishment for their former lives. but getting golden showered and fucked up the ass should not be regarded as a punishment but as a reward for choosing their career and their customer, me, with care.
has anyone checked out malibu entertainment opposite apex. ugly ladyboys but popular enough. i guess these shows give the older farangs a walk on the wild side. the only reason to go to a place like that is for its freak value. there are ladies dancing nearby in a number of bars. they gyrate like they are being given electric shocks (as they may well be getting). thai traditional dancing meets the local thai electricity grid. then there are the “singers”. i get a great kick out of the country and western singers murdering stand by your man.
i have got a few legit massages recently, mostly to try to feel up the lady massaging me. the best legit massage so far i have had is the big place half way down soi 6 on the rhs heading towards the beach. much too expensive at 300 bt an hour. you are much better off getting a freebie from an aging hooker as part of an all in deal. i realize this may not be an option for the iranian housewives/ tourists reading this but their husbands may be interested.
i went into big c. the iranian guys buy all the cheap clothes by the crate full. does tehran not have cheap chinese rags? al jazeerah is the best tv station here. the iranians and rag heads have some good and popular restaurants. i see there is a kosher restaurant on 3rd road. i have not seen many orthodox jews around. i wonder what the jewish mamas think when little heimy fronts up with a tattooed pattaya go go bride in tow.
what else? there are pissing contests and pissing contests but, just like beer, that is not to everyone’s taste. we had a recent one, won by a sharp shooting kraut, who was able to keep a semi horn on. the target and prize was paid handsomely for little or any work. all they think of is the money so pay them well and all will be well.
for those of you a little fistophobic, there are some things to note. women, not thai lbfms, give birth and the new born baby is a lot bigger than my fist or yours. many women like a neat fist and they often contract on it, the same way they do on a cock that fucks them hard. most lbfms are gone beyond caring. they see ass or fist fucking as just a way to clam more money for their time. they regard themselves as fuck toys, a very buddhist and asian concept. when you wine and dine them, you are fucking up their heads. i merely feed them cockroaches and cock and they appreciate that.
in the gym, (which actor gary stretch is now attending) and other places, i have seen farang treat lowly thai workers like shit. now, why do you do that? they are earning peanuts, probably less than the construction workers and you have to be a big little man by telling them they are nothing. they know that already but what does that make you? this is one of the wonders of amazing thailand. fat farangs swoon over common prostitutes with nothing but an over open to anybody pussy going for them. yet they treat those who try to hold down a job like shit. not kosher.
then we have the love smitten. i am friends with a finn who has built his beloved a house in some isaan wilderness. he now realizes his mistake and is thinking of cutting and running. i console him that at least he will not be trussed up like the british bobby i already mentioned. if we think our isaan pussy loves us and not our money, we are blinder than the horny white stick man i already mentioned. love is ok in thailand if you are a thai goldsmith.
england recently beat croatia in the world cup qualifiers. this meant that not only thai hookers but also some very overweight farangs could recently be seen wearing knock off england football shirts. one of my recent pissing partners was also wearing a france shirt. i asked her why she wore our gallant shirt (for the cock on it perhaps?). she said, non, she liked the color. (i still say like many others, she cannot resist the french cock, but it was a good answer).
what else? toured sois 1-4. nothing there except obnoxious tailors and a handful of go go and bars clinging like barnacles towards big c. a good place if you want an uninterrupted night’s sleep.
some ugly beach rd hag offered me a blow job on the beach near soi 4. no thank you. instead, i have developed a new hobby up that way. i am hitting on the female tourists who are being ignored by all the farang who are so besotted by their innocent isaan angels. the long noses are to be found propping their fat asses up on bars around sois 4 and 5. these long noses are easy meat if you are patient and not too discerning; maybe our blind mongering friend could help here. the patience element obviously thins the field a lot. and if you are charmless, that probably does not help either. it also means dressing and scrubbing up so that probably rules out a lot.
so, i have given some guides from soi 1 to walking st and back as far as 3rd road. my feet currently are playing up and stop me going further afield so it will be piddles and paddles on bottoms for the next few days. now let yours do the walking. tell us something new, break new ground. live the dream, even once. go give her a golden love shower. you know she needs the money as well as your love.

Interesting stuff & the message is quite clear:

Any Foreigner in trouble over there is usually in more trouble than they first thought. Here's the Bravo tv link with some more interesting points including a questionaire on how to keep out of trouble.

[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/shows/big-trouble-in-thailand/[/url]

Watched the You Tube clips and boy it looks like a great show to watch on regular TV, but this show only airs in the UK. Bravo in the US does not broadcast it, I guess I will have to watch You Tube clips if they get posted.

The Departed,

Very nice report!

Thank you for your informative and different perpective on Pattaya!

LBM

[QUOTE=The Departed]They regard themselves as fuck toys, a very Buddhist and Asian concept. When you wine and dine them, you are fucking up their heads. I merely feed them cockroaches and cock and they appreciate that.[/QUOTE]
I can understand what you are saying with this. The wise Pattaya hookers can also understand. One of the workers that I fuck in Pattaya has a tattoo on her lower back. I asked her why she had it. She didn't want to give it up at first but she finally broke down and told me that when she first arrived she had delusions of grandeur. She, like most girls, thought she would meet a westerner who would sweep her off her feet and take her home with him. The first guy she was with convinced her to get the tattoo of a Harley Davidson symbol with his name on it. She thought they would be together forever. When the guy left she never heard from him again. Now she is seasoned and realizes that guys only come to Pattaya for fun.

So as TD is saying when we wine and dine them it feeds into the big dream that all the girls have. Then when we are gone, never to be heard from again, they are let down over and over. That is some real psychological shit. Some of them catch on and realize that we only come for fun, then there are others who are more hopeful and hold on to the dream. Sometimes it is better to keep business as business.

[QUOTE=Wolverine15]LBM,

I think you wrongly assume that TheDeparted is an American.

Based on some of the wording in the posts I would guess he's a Brit.

I have never heard an American refer to grandfather as gran papa.[/QUOTE]That's a weird logic... Never come across the word papa used in the UK since the 19th Century.

Anyway, he's French. Hmmm...

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
So as TD is saying when we wine and dine them it feeds into the big dream that all the girls have. Then when we are gone, never to be heard from again, they are let down over and over. That is some real psychological shit. Some of them catch on and realize that we only come for fun, then there are others who are more hopeful and hold on to the dream. Sometimes it is better to keep business as business.[/QUOTE]
Yep. Keep business as business. Who cares about their feelings and dreams! Remember, it's us against them. Play hard and bang hard!

[QUOTE=Sharka]Gals are ok with showing their IDs if they have them, no offense taken.
Spotting fakes are easy.
1)just ask anyone at your hotel desk to show you their ID so you know what to look for, then also have them show you where is the birthdate and how to calculate the age.

Oct should be ok weatherwise.


So go out there and enjoy it rookie.
Shark[/QUOTE]


Gotta share.. and I assume it has been experienced as well.. A nice girl from BR.. asked her if she had her ID.. Brief panic in her eyes. Started to look in her purse. Tears in her eyes "no, my friend has mine - you wait I go get?". Sure, why not.. Alas, no ID - her friend still wasn't done boinking her customer. So had to go out again.

Interesting.. a bunch of girls share one and same ID.. The hotels, don't they see the difference? Or don't they care as long as they have some kind of id?

[QUOTE=Divine Baal]

Interesting.. a bunch of girls share one and same ID.. The hotels, don't they see the difference? Or don't they care as long as they have some kind of id?[/QUOTE]

My experiences have included:

A girl that had left her ID at home. Hotel wouldn't let her in. I sent her back to get an ID from any friend at her go-go, she got in no problem.

Another girl had a black and white photo copy of her ID. She had gotten it laminated though! So very very official. Hotel reception: "do you want to let her up with this ID, up to you? It's your room."

Could you tell me if is easy to fuck asses in Pattaya? .... but I mean asses of girls. ;)
Thanks

[QUOTE=Divine Baal].

Interesting.. a bunch of girls share one and same ID.. The hotels, don't they see the difference? Or don't they care as long as they have some kind of id?[/QUOTE]


Yes, the hotel can see the differences, just that some don't care as long as you don't care (they assume it was you that picked her so most hotel policy is to see ID of any guest and in a way-they did their job). Remember, the most important thing about even seeing her ID is to check her age (if she looks young).

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Could you tell me if is easy to fuck asses in Pattaya? .... but I mean asses of girls. ;)
Thanks[/QUOTE]


Not exactly what I call easy (much easier in some parts of Europe and Brazil than here).
Some (not many) SW on beach rd will do it (sometimes for a few bahts more) and some on Soi 6 ST brothels will also do it but ask first so you don't pay and not get the service.

But a word of warning: some that will be happy and gladly do it are NOT women, will look like a woman but they are actually Ladyboys so double check. Believe it or not many are easy to spot but a few are not.

Shark

[QUOTE=Longhardlook]Thank you for the links,

Interesting stuff & the message is quite clear:

Any Foreigner in trouble over there is usually in more trouble than they first thought. Here's the Bravo tv link with some more interesting points including a questionaire on how to keep out of trouble.

[url]http://www.bravo.co.uk/shows/big-trouble-in-thailand/[/url][/QUOTE]


Here are some new developments since the report was televised.

[url]http://www.andrew-drummond.com/?s=royal+marines[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]So as TD is saying when we wine and dine them it feeds into the big dream that all the girls have. Then when we are gone, never to be heard from again, they are let down over and over. That is some real psychological shit. Some of them catch on and realize that we only come for fun, then there are others who are more hopeful and hold on to the dream. Sometimes it is better to keep business as business.[/QUOTE]

This is what is what is love is about expectation and risk, and if you are not willing to enjoy it, you can keep with your "fuck toys", but you'll never get the best of your trips to LOS or anywhere in general.

[QUOTE=The Departed]

What else? There are pissing contests and pissing contests but, just like beer, that is not to everyone’s taste. We had a recent one, won by a sharp shooting Kraut, who was able to keep a semi horn on. The target and prize was paid handsomely for little or any work. All they think of is the money so pay them well and all will be well.

[/QUOTE]

I always thought this was just a saying, never knew people really did it. I must have led a sheltered life. I would not do well in such a contest as I tend to dribble on my own feet.

Great series of reports even if I don't always agree with the activities.

Slim

Has anybody stayed at Amari Orchid in Pattaya, and what is the situation with bringing 'guests' back to the rooms?

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Could you tell me if is easy to fuck asses in Pattaya? .... but I mean asses of girls. ;)
Thanks[/QUOTE]

If you don't mind women over about 30 years of age, it is easy. Under thirty only a very few are willing, but among the over thirties on the beach it is maybe 10%. Probably similar on Soi 6, and it is possible to find it in other bars though obviously it is rare.

Speaking of which I just took a three holer I'd been avoiding for ages because I believed I contracted the Clap from here many months ago. Finally I broke down and took her again because I had been searching the beach all day and could not find any three holers. We'll see if I erred.

To The Departed - if your feet are playing up you should rent a motorbike. I always do and it only costs 80-100 baht per day. One of the few remaining real bargains.

One other question - I recently found that the Auydhaya Banks have begun to charge the 150 baht per transaction rip-off. Can anyone tell me if any non-rippoff banks remain in Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Opebo]One other question - I recently found that the Auydhaya Banks have begun to charge the 150 baht per transaction rip-off. Can anyone tell me if any non-rippoff banks remain in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Only GSB, Government Savings Bank (Visa Only) and Aeon ATMs' do not charge the 150 bt rip off fee.

[QUOTE=Opebo]To The Departed - if your feet are playing up you should rent a motorbike. I always do and it only costs 80-100 baht per day. One of the few remaining real bargains.

[/QUOTE]


Where in Patts do you rent your bike from sounds like a right bargain most places charge 150-200bht a day

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I have had this information for sometime before I forget about it I better post it now.

For those of you in or going to be in Pattaya, in regards to the topic of ATM'S charges of 150 baht for foreign debit and credit cards holders. It has already been mentioned that the following Banks are not charging the fee. Here are some locations of those Banks if you happen to be within the area and what to save 150 baht per withdraw and put it towards a beer to two.

Aeon ATM, One located on the main level of Carrefour but it has been OFF-LINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW. There is also a Aeon Branch and a bunch of machines at Tesco, just off Pattaya Nua Rd.

Government Bank ATM: ( to some Thai's this is consider the Kings Bank ) Red but close to pink color machine. One located upstairs in Carrefour, just outside the super market.

UOB ATM, always located next to their Money Exchange Booth:

One located on 2rd, on left hand side right after Soi 13/3, One located on Beach Rd, left hand side right after Mike department store just before Soi 12.

One located on Soi 13/2 near Beach Rd. across from Pizza Hut.

Good luck, LBM[/QUOTE]
I used the one on Beach Rd at the end of July. No fee as LBM stated.

ATM,

It should be reminded that whether you get charge or not might be dependent on what country your card is issued!

Since the last report of ATM'S, much has changed! Consistently now the Bank of Auydhya ( yellow machine ) is charging!

The Thai Government Bank ( pink machine ) has been reported by many Expats living here that some are starting to charge. Slowly in time pretty consistent with how things work here is that all will be charging soon.

UOB, bank... I haven't use these machine lately but heard through long term Expats that they are now charging.

Aeon Bank, This is a Japanese bank I heard, very few machines if any, Tesco South, it was reported that the machine was removed. The machine at Carrefour, on Pattaya Klang, lower level towards the bathroom has been out of order for months. So that leaves the only Branch at Tesco North!

Personal experience whether the PINK Machines charges or not, they seem to give the best rate. Example: USD... The rate on the website was 34.02, after a withdraw from the " PINK " when back and did the exchange rate they gave me a rate of 33.96. Compare to what the others were doing like Rate 34.02, after withdraw, I get a rate like 32.45 along with the 150 baht charge.

Good luck, LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]ATM,

It should be reminded that whether you get charge or not might be dependent on what country your card is issued!

Since the last report of ATM'S, much has changed! Consistently now the Bank of Auydhya ( yellow machine ) is charging!

The Thai Government Bank ( pink machine ) has been reported by many Expats living here that some are starting to charge. Slowly in time pretty consistent with how things work here is that all will be charging soon.

UOB, bank... I haven't use these machine lately but heard through long term Expats that they are now charging.

Aeon Bank, This is a Japanese bank I heard, very few machines if any, Tesco South, it was reported that the machine was removed. The machine at Carrefour, on Pattaya Klang, lower level towards the bathroom has been out of order for months. So that leaves the only Branch at Tesco North!

Personal experience whether the PINK Machines charges or not, they seem to give the best rate. Example: USD... The rate on the website was 34.02, after a withdraw from the " PINK " when back and did the exchange rate they gave me a rate of 33.96. Compare to what the others were doing like Rate 34.02, after withdraw, I get a rate like 32.45 along with the 150 baht charge.

Good luck, LBM[/QUOTE]Was in BKK recently and every ATM that I went to with my Malaysian credit cards and ATM cards, all charged the standard Bht 150. Couldnt find a machine that didnt charge.

[QUOTE=Wolverine15]LBM,

I think you wrongly assume that TheDeparted is an American.

Based on some of the wording in the posts I would guess he's a Brit.

I have never heard an American refer to grandfather as gran papa.[/QUOTE]


He clearly claims to be French......(read his posts carefully)....but in any case....very funny and well written.

[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]A few people taking sides on whether Departed should be banned or is the best thing to come along in a while.

First, we are all posting or reading posts about doing everything conceivable (sexually) to young women, most of which would be extremely offensive to much of society.

And what is our collective response to that? "Fuck off" if you don't like it, and get over your prudish morality.

I think the same could be said to those offended by Departed. Don't read his stuff.

Second, I don't think Departed really does and says and thinks all the things he posts. He's just a very colorful writer.

Third, I think he's funny as hell and very entertaining.[/QUOTE]I have to say that I just starting reading this thread and I have to concur. +1

Look fellas, I don't want to really rehash the topic the guy has already cleaned up the report and I hope it stays that way. This way we can appreciate his future reports. I being a American can't say what a French or British might act or say I can only surmise that The Departed from his reports have been to many countries around the world. If I assume he was a American and he isn't then my apologise to the American rednecks! I basically responded to as what I know in sterotype form.

Regardless of his race I think the content of his message was more important than his Origin!

LBM

Hi, some years ago I went to Jakarta (Indonesia) and I remember I get wonderful blowjobs. In Jakarta every girl has devotion to blowjob. If you know as Jakarta as Pattaya could you tell me if in Pattaya the girls have the same devotion?
Thanks

Foxeshunter, BJs in Pattaya are adequate but usually nothing to write home about.

Recently I have found the selection on the Beach enormously depleted. The old favorites not to be found - probably in the monkey house as is becoming more and more common. Rather like home - find a good service streetwalker and the chance of finding her again next time is very small.

Lacking any known threeholers I took one who promised this, though I was very doubtful of her veracity. My instincts were good as in the room she was recalcitrant, not only jumping up the price of the anal but halfway through the vag she started demanding more money than the normal 500 (namely 600)! (for the anal she had asked 800 baht!). She made a huge ruckus, threatening to call the cops, blocking the door - the usual routine. Finally I put 100 baht more very far away from the door on the bed, to lead her away from her blocking position. Unfortunately the money was blown by the fan onto the floor and she made noises about the usual Thai nonsense about 'Thai money'. You know the usual bull about the chap's face on it. Anything to get another leverage in. So, I replaced the money upon the bed and when she went to get it I took off, rather nimbly I'd say.

These sorts of things happen with about 10% or so of girls from the Beach. Its just part of the risk of taking new girls. Just be warned, they're as bad as ever, and probably worse. If you wish to avoid the girl mentioned, she looks rather like a frog (haha, that doesn't narrow it down much eh?)

We often hear upon this forum that the Subcontinental gentlemen surprise these girls with several men in the room, all to fuck for the price of one. One wonders how they carry this off considering how combative many of these girls seem to be. Perhaps they manage it with a few well aimed blows or a good wrestling grip (one can hope), or, more likely, they only pull it off with the nicer girls and those like my horrible 600 baht shrew manage to get away un-gangbanged. Alas.

Lastly regarding ATMs I was warned of the 150 baht fee at one Bank of Ayudhaya ATM (yellow) but then I found another on Second Road that did not warn so, and I went through with the transaction. Who knows if it will turn out to be honest. Now I walk around with something like 17,000 baht on me - I honestly feel a strong urge to leave Pattaya, as this doesn't seem safe (speaking of which I don't trust safes either).

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Was in BKK recently and every ATM that I went to with my Malaysian credit cards and ATM cards, all charged the standard Bht 150. Couldnt find a machine that didnt charge.[/QUOTE]I have to concur. I was in pattaya just begining of the year and all the ATM I took money out of charged me a fee, although I do remember most charge 150b and a few was only 100b, but regardless they all had a fee.

Also, these fees are only for foreign cards and not the local cards.

Shark

Took Bang and Rose for a two hour session that was really fab. Took out Bang for an evening and she was not there when I arrived. Jack, the manager, always accomodating, said she had to go to the dentist for a piece of chicken caught in her gum. Would I like another? No I like Bang so back I come at 10 pm the following night. She has the most fabulous legs.

Went back to the hotel, got sex out of the way. Pretty good session but no where as much enthusiasm as session at Devils Den. Went out to eat at 12 30 at Kiss. She ate a lot! Then back at room did not want sex. Said her stomach hurt. I sat in chair all night. She left exactly at 6 am.

Now I'm really pissed! I go to Devils Den at 1 pm to talk to Jack. He has the owner join us, Michael. Michael is especially pissed at Bang saying this would fuck up the other girls and remove their guarentee of fab sessions.

He has his wife talk with her. He comes back and said Bang admitted to everything I said exactly as I said it. He offered half my money back. I said no. Didn't want her to lose money, just want to have good session on takeout with her. So she comes in. Very very lovey dovey. So sorry, I will be a good girl all night!

So I pick her up for an overnight at 10 pm expecting the best ever. I take her bar hopping. Drinks food dancing at Discos. Lots of money. Back to the hotel. And

Why you want so much sex! You so boring! 1

So I stop. Sit it chair.

She asks at 6 am you write good report for me. On website?

Like a goddddam idiot I do it!

Fucked my self bigtime

No good deed goes unpunished.

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Some confusion in this thread about ATM charges. I'll try to straighten things out.

There are several different types of charges involved in using a foreign ATM card in Thailand. The 150-baht charge is applied by the Thai bank that owns the ATM machine. It doesn't matter which foreign bank issued the card or how much you're withdrawing, you will be charged 150 baht.

Then there are charges your bank will impose. One is called a foreign transaction fee and can amount to 5% of the transaction (and even more in some cases), but is often 3% - it depends on which bank issued the card. Finally, there is a 1% fee that the Cirrus (Visa) and Maestro (MasterCard) systems put on foreign transactions. Most often, you'll end up paying a total of 5% of the transaction in fees for the convenience of using a Thai ATM machine.

That means if you withdraw a total total equivalent to US$2,000 during a two-week trip to Thailand, it will cost you US$100 in fees. If you use a credit card to make cash withdrawals, it will cost you even more, as there is an additional fee of 3% or more.

If you visit Thailand regularly, the best idea is to open a Thai bank account so you can use a Thai ATM card. Once you have such an account, you can either wire money to the account before you depart you home country, or bring traveler's cheques/cash to convert to baht and deposit in the account. That way,you have the convenience of using an ATM card but none of the extra expense of using a foreign ATM card.

Evil

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]
If you visit Thailand regularly, the best idea is to open a Thai bank account so you can use a Thai ATM card. Once you have such an account, you can either wire money to the account before you depart you home country, or bring traveler's cheques/cash to convert to baht and deposit in the account. That way,you have the convenience of using an ATM card but none of the extra expense of using a foreign ATM card.

Evil[/QUOTE]

It's not the easiest thing in the world to open a Thai bank account. I tried that last November, I think in Siam Bank and the woman in the bank asked me to show my work permit before i could get an account.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]It's not the easiest thing in the world to open a Thai bank account. I tried that last November, I think in Siam Bank and the woman in the bank asked me to show my work permit before i could get an account.[/QUOTE]
Or you can get a residence certificate at Immigration and submit that with the application for your Thai bank account. You can simply name your hotel as your place of residence and that will suffice.

[Quote=Opebo][Recently I have found the selection on the Beach enormously depleted. The old favorites not to be found - probably in the monkey house as is becoming more and more common./Quote]It appears the remaining Beach Road SPs are fully aware that they are a "dying breed" and believe now they are worth more and their attitudes have adjusted accordingly!

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Or you can get a residence certificate at Immigration and submit that with the application for your Thai bank account. You can simply name your hotel as your place of residence and that will suffice.[/QUOTE]

What does it take to get one of these? Is it as easy as just to walk in through the door with my 30 days visa on arrival and ask the to sign a certificate of residence?

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]What does it take to get one of these? Is it as easy as just to walk in through the door with my 30 days visa on arrival and ask the to sign a certificate of residence?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you will need to go to Immigration with your passport, copy of passport, passport sized photo, and 100-200 baht or so for the fee; fill out an appropriate application with the address and telephone number of your hotel, and your own cell number. Immigration will issue you the cerficate document to take to the bank as proof of residence.

You can open a passbook account and ATM card with as little as 100 baht. You will then have a Thai based account for receipt of money transfers from your foreign account.

If you are not retired or have a long term Visa, from my experience you can't get a residence certificate. A Residence certificate means just that in my opinion Long term and not 30 days.

If you are on vacation just bring cash or Traveler checks in large denominations or take the 150 baht charge and enjoy yourself. Another note is that many Expats that have opened accounts in Thailand like Bank of Bangkok are taking a small fee out of your account if it is inactive for a few months.

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]If you are not retired or have a long term Visa, from my experience you can't get a residence certificate. A Residence certificate means just that in my opinion Long term and not 30 days.

If you are on vacation just bring cash or Traveler checks in large denominations or take the 150 baht charge and enjoy yourself. Another note is that many Expats that have opened accounts in Thailand like Bank of Bangkok are taking a small fee out of your account if it is inactive for a few months.

LBM[/QUOTE]
You can get a residence certificate with a simple entry visa and w/o being retired. I did.

Dextro Sol should just go to the Immigraton office, tell the clerk that he wants to open a Thai bank account, and they will tell him exactly what to do.

[QUOTE=Eric Mesh]Took Bang and Rose for a two hour session that was really fab. Took out Bang for an evening and she was not there when I arrived. Jack, the manager, always accomodating, said she had to go to the dentist for a piece of chicken caught in her gum. Would I like another? No I like Bang so back I come at 10 pm the following night. She has the most fabulous legs.

Went back to the hotel, got sex out of the way. Pretty good session but no where as much enthusiasm as session at Devils Den. Went out to eat at 12 30 at Kiss. She ate a lot! Then back at room did not want sex. Said her stomach hurt. I sat in chair all night. She left exactly at 6 am.

Now I'm really pissed! I go to Devils Den at 1 pm to talk to Jack. He has the owner join us, Michael. Michael is especially pissed at Bang saying this would fuck up the other girls and remove their guarentee of fab sessions.

He has his wife talk with her. He comes back and said Bang admitted to everything I said exactly as I said it. He offered half my money back. I said no. Didn't want her to lose money, just want to have good session on takeout with her. So she comes in. Very very lovey dovey. So sorry, I will be a good girl all night!

So I pick her up for an overnight at 10 pm expecting the best ever. I take her bar hopping. Drinks food dancing at Discos. Lots of money. Back to the hotel. And

Why you want so much sex! You so boring! 1

So I stop. Sit it chair.

She asks at 6 am you write good report for me. On website?

Like a goddddam idiot I do it!

Fucked my self bigtime

No good deed goes unpunished.[/QUOTE]

This is just awful especially coming from a girl who offers almost every option on the menu. You didn’t help matters by writing a positive report about her after she stiffed you twice. You should return to that site and write a follow up report about what actually happened or at least inform management again. Chances are she has done this before and will do it again, if she is allowed to get away with it because of (nice) guys like you.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]You can get a residence certificate with a simple entry visa and w/o being retired. I did.

Dextro Sol should just go to the Immigraton office, tell the clerk that he wants to open a Thai bank account, and they will tell him exactly what to do.[/QUOTE]

I will make a try on my next trip in November. BTW Daddy, when did you get yours? Recently or years ago?

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]I will make a try on my next trip in November. BTW Daddy, when did you get yours? Recently or years ago?[/QUOTE]
March of 2007. Later, I wired sufficient funds into the Thai account to qualify me for a retirement visa; I got that in the US and came back to Thailand in October 2007. Now I wire money from the US to the account so I never have to use my US credit cards to obtain cash in Thailand.

1-I plan to go to Asia in about 15 days and I am wondering which of these two destinations is better in term of quantity, quality of service and specially girls and price?

2-How much I need to spend a wonderfull week in Pattaya?

Thanks

Go to Kasikorn or Krung Thai with passport in hand and you should be able to get a savings account with ATM card. Have done both, granted in BKK (Exchange Tower near Asoke). In and out with in 15 minutes.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]What does it take to get one of these? Is it as easy as just to walk in through the door with my 30 days visa on arrival and ask the to sign a certificate of residence?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Daddy07]March of 2007. Later, I wired sufficient funds into the Thai account to qualify me for a retirement visa; I got that in the US and came back to Thailand in October 2007. Now I wire money from the US to the account so I never have to use my US credit cards to obtain cash in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
Just for some info, can you answer these questions? I am sure many will be interested in this.

1. How long did it take for the retirement visa to be approved ?
2. How much money did you need to transfer?
3. Did you have to open a business and employ local people?
4. Are you allowed to own a home or land on retirement visa?
5. Is the retirement visa for life or you need to reapply?
6. Is there are any other rules or restrictions you have to follow?

Info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sammon]Hi,
Just for some info, can you answer these questions? I am sure many will be interested in this.

1. How long did it take for the retirement visa to be approved ?
2. How much money did you need to transfer?
3. Did you have to open a business and employ local people?
4. Are you allowed to own a home or land on retirement visa?
5. Is the retirement visa for life or you need to reapply?
6. Is there are any other rules or restrictions you have to follow?

Info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Answers:
1) 1 Day
2) None
3) No
4) Yes and No, but it has nothing to do with the Visa - Complicated Issue that needs to be explained in detail
5) Every Year
6) Open ended question that could have 100's of answers

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yeah, you will need to go to Immigration with your passport, copy of passport, passport sized photo, and 100-200 baht or so for the fee; fill out an appropriate application with the address and telephone number of your hotel, and your own cell number. Immigration will issue you the cerficate document to take to the bank as proof of residence.

You can open a passbook account and ATM card with as little as 100 baht. You will then have a Thai based account for receipt of money transfers from your foreign account.[/QUOTE]

Thai banks require a minimum balance of 2,000 Baht or activity in the account. If one of the above is not met you will be charged a service fee of 50 Baht per month and your account will be closed when it no longer has any funds in it. You are also charged a yearly fee of 200 Baht for your Debit card.

You can open an account at Kasikornbank with just your passport and any address, you can use your hotel if you like. There are many branches in Pattaya.

first of all, deepest and most profound apologies for suggesting pattaya had no orthodox jews. i don’t know how i could possibly have said such a horrible, hurtful thing. passing 3rd rd’s king david restaurant as dusk fell on friday, there the big hatted bearded ones could be seen bobbing away in the general direction of beach rd, pattaya’s answer to the wailing wall and the brothels of east jerusalem. (next year in the ps hotel).
secondly, rolf witmer from bremen and tony marcello from brooklyn, i fucked your time sharing isaan girl friend up the ass yesterday afternoon. she says that neither of you send enough money and i say she says too much. she talked so much i had to jam my cock in her mouth just to shut her up. on the positive side, she enjoyed the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] i gave her. she would make a good wife for both of you if you could keep her gagged, except when mouth fucking her of course. if you do relocate her to either germany or the states, she will be able to make a living at her chosen career.
thirdly, apologies to those who were led to believe i would not get to bang the gym rat angel and also apologies to those who were led to believe there is a cap on what dumb farangs will send their ex fuck toys. the gym rat picked me up, not the other way round. she chatted to me several days in almost perfect english. then she read my t shirt (l’algérie est francaise et la restera), she was able to speak about that bastard de gaulle’s betrayal in very passable french. this blew me away. she had hooked up with a total executive and had lived in 5 star luxury all over the world, paris included. she even knows places in paris to get isaan dishes you cannot even get in pattaya. but she also knew the high life much more so. her ex boyfriend still sends her a king’s ransom every month, the pattaya condo is in both their names, the motorbike and car (she cannot drive and needs a chauffeur) are in her name. she told me the telephone number of articles of clothes etc she has. the current girl friend, a filipina stripper, hates her and wants to bump her off. but if the little catholic girl comes to the land of smiles, there is a contract out on her. mon dieu, my kind of girl.
but not my kind of price. instead, i volunteered to walk the dog with her. get this. mr total has rented another apartment for the dog (one of those horrible little pedigree dogs shopaholics like and i would like to strangle) and the dog minder. yes, i have banged her but you have to know how to hunt when the prey falls into your lap. instead of giving her a fish, i have pretended to teach her how to fish (or should that be fist). so she is my fuck buddy even though i explicitly explained to her that i wanted nothing, least of all a fuck for my services.
some of you cast doubt and aspersions on my activities. as regards risk, if you have eaten a thai pussy or if you have you have got an unprotected thai hooker’s finger up your ass, you have done riskier things than me. i have simply watched some of the movies of rob black and max hardcore and replicated them.
i regard this lady as like fucking a leopard. you better make sure you fuck the leopard good and hard or it will tear your heart out. and, just when you are ready to give the leopard the money shot, run or disappear because the leopard will only leave your hat and shoes for your mama to recognize. i am sure fucking a leopard is exquisite but it is not for the faint hearted.
as regards the interesting atm debate, again check out yenchit in walking st.
as regards beach rd, you have to put in the footwork if you want the prize 3 holing cuts. be prepared to let others take the fuck babies and the grand mamas. aim for the wild and willing, walk up and down for as many times as it takes. only talk to potentials and smile at the rest. lions and other big cats in the wild don’t waste time on chit chat. they go for the kill.
be explicit in what you want. make sure anal etc is on the contract if that is what you want. plead special cases, that you cannot cum with condoms. at the least sign of a troublesome provider, break off contact immediately. if she is smoking, drinking, is chatting to her friends or looks like a yabba head, cut her off. there may not be more fish in the sea but there are more lbfms on beach rd than you will fuck in a life time. always go for the tourist police, not the brown shirted criminals, if needed. if there is trouble in your hotel, call the concierge (who should always be generously tipped) immediately, stay naked, open the door and raise your voice to take control. with short time rooms or their rooms, you must check slowly and bolt at any signs of irregularities.
when on beach rd, sit down and spend time talking to them. if they seem impatient or can only recount about short time prices like it is a buddhist mantra, ditch them. i ignore 95% of those who ask me where i am going etc. i would certainly never hire any of them in the marketing dept. the diamonds know why you are on beach rd. (hint: it is not to get the night air).
the legs continue to deteriorate, so much so that i am confined very much to barracks with no one but the chamber maids, freshly arrived from isaan, to fuck. isaan newbies come in different shapes. the best ones are those who believe they must fulfill all my desires. the chink who owns my pad likes to break newbies in and fix them up with likely cash flow farangs like me. i just like bare backing them. they were surprised at my collection of dildos and vibrators. i find isaan ladies who do not get a full on fuck every few days end up gasping for it. they are like bitches in heat, crazy for cock. of course, they are not good for much else. one can hardly discuss camus, sartre or even balzac with them. they are merely creatures created for our senses, play things. one of the newbies is up for the pattaya challenge; the other is born to be a maid.
of course, this does not apply to nok, the gym rat and (if lbfms were football teams) the real madrid of pattaya. of course, france is the epitome of culture. who has not read the aptly named nana, about a hooker who gets the jackpot in paris. many, far too many get the jackpot here.
sometimes, our timing is perfect. i again nailed the two sisters, newly arrived from isaan and timed it to get them on rent day. they were so happy i saved them from eviction. i got four hours, several ass fucks, several atms, a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] on the older one, hours and hours of massage and ball play, and all for 1100 bt. sorry again if i am over paying. i must try harder.
i did meet mistress camilla, the dia dominatrix already mentioned. we got through a lot of vaseline and our asses are still sore. i think the masks and things are childish, i don’t really go for cbt and nor do i like getting steel things stuck up my cock. but some do. befriending a dominatrix is nice because you quickly realize there are4 many fucked up farangs doing the rounds here.
we went to the thai traditional village/floating market on soi sukhumvit. oddly, there is no caged brothel there, an oddity given it is supposed to reflect traditional thai society. we did, however, bar fine a fuck toy out of oasis and we made a tasty thai sandwich out of her. unfortunately, i did not get to fist fuck her, further evidence that go go gals are a waste of cum.
someone who knows about such things told me many or most of the go go fuck toys are lesbians and not just gay 4 pay. certainly, the lesbian farangs are much more in evidence. this is good as it broadens the horizons of the ladies they fuck.
the pattaya news has details about a thai babe, cuffed up by her thai boyfriend for a few days. they also report pattaya is targeting the obese bkk citizenry for festivals next february and that central festival is central to it. so, gradually the farang mongers are being pushed out.
walking (barely) along beach rd last night, i ducked past at least 7 chicks i had ass fucked. it is awful when they shout your name after you and you want to ignore them in your quest for new fuck meat. i fucked the tattooed babe again but she would not even lift her ass up. unless you find a gem, it is best just doing them once and moving on. i see dud repeats as a reason not to do repeats. also, we should not give the lbfms ideas above their station.
i also have babes i knew from the past coming up to me giving me their cell phone numbers. i know i am a nice guy but i just want to fuck these thais, not romance them. that is not my thing. what is their problem that they think every farang is a love sick moron? even when i [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] all over them, they expect a box of chocolates, even though i don’t even give them a box of tissues to clean up.
back to the foot patrol. different day, different clowns, same circus. i saw a dwarf on beach rd yesterday, wheeling a pram and a proud mama look on her face. dwarves – the vertically challenged, for the love sick readers – make good fucks. this is unlike the pregnant. there are quite a few pregnant chicks on beach rd but the novelty soon wears off there.
thank you for the motorbike suggestions. besides not wanting to pay any pattaya police pig a bribe, the motor bike is better for longer distances, rather than patrolling beach rd and other areas. it also makes good sense if you want to commute during the day. at night, the legs must, however reluctantly, do the job.

I have seen quite a bit of discussion about ATM's and credit cards.

If you coming here on vacation or for an extended stay, then you will be far better off using cash or travelers checks. Most if not all quality hotels will supply an in room safe. You can also use the house safe and will be supplied with a receipt when you leave money in it.

If you use a credit card to pay for your hotel as an example, your credit card company will charge a 3% fee for using it outside your country and virtually every Thai company will charge an additional 5% fee. So an 8% fee in total will be added any time your CC is used.

All ATM's I know of are now charging a 150 Baht fee, although a few have mentioned here that don't. I don't believe that will last too long. In addition your US bank will charge a fee from $2 to $10 and in many cases 1% of the amount withdrawn. It gets very expensive.

If you're coming here for an extended time, before you leave your country you need to set it up with them to do wire transfer via the telephone or internet. Almost assuredly you will need to use the telephone, I have not heard of any banks you can do international wires over the internet, but I am sure there are.

Then open a Thai bank account and wire the money in. This will provide you the best exchange rates and lowest fees. If you use your Thai banks ATM's there are not any fees. If you use another banks ATM's the fees are 20 to 30 Baht.

[quote=the departed]secondly, rolf witmer from bremen and tony marcello from brooklyn, i fucked your time sharing isaan girl friend up the ass yesterday afternoon. she says that neither of you send enough money and i say she says too much. she talked so much i had to jam my cock in her mouth just to shut her up. on the positive side, she enjoyed the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] i gave her. she would make a good wife for both of you if you could keep her gagged, except when mouth fucking her of course. if you do relocate her to either germany or the states, she will be able to make a living at her chosen career.[/quote]i find your reports fairly repellent (and i know you don't care) but you are sinking to new lows in naming real names on this board. it's irrelevant whether they are members or not (and if they are, isg guidelines say you will be banned outright). they are however presumably fellow mongers with interests akin to our own, and i'm sure don't care to be 'outed' on the forum.

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]

If you use a credit card to pay for your hotel as an example, your credit card company will charge a 3% fee for using it outside your country and virtually every Thai company will charge an additional 5% fee. So an 8% fee in total will be added any time your CC is used.

All ATM's I know of are now charging a 150 Baht fee, although a few have mentioned here that don't. I don't believe that will last too long. In addition your US bank will charge a fee from $2 to $10 and in many cases 1% of the amount withdrawn. It gets very expensive.

.[/QUOTE]

Just do what I do, Open a Capital One credit card before you leave your country. It is about the only one left thats still free of almost all fees (except the mandatory 1% Intl expchange rate charge that can't be avoided). So using their CC will only be 1% max for all foreign purchases, but a bit more for using this CC for ATM cash withdraws but I believe even that is cheaper than other company credit cards for withdraws. just inquiry at their bank or look it up in the net.

and the ATM bit I already discussed previously.

Shark

[QUOTE=The Departed]First of all, deepest and most profound apologies for suggesting Pattaya had no orthodox Jews. I don’t know how I could possibly have said such a horrible, hurtful thing. Passing 3rd Rd’s King David Restaurant as dusk fell on Friday, there the big hatted bearded ones could be seen bobbing away in the general direction of Beach Rd, Pattaya’s answer to the Wailing Wall and the brothels of East Jerusalem. (Next year in the PS Hotel).[/quote]In my country they say: "barking dogs dont bite", but I still hope I will never meet Mr. Departed in France, in Asia or anywhere else in the world. He seems to be a violent man and actually not enjoying the good things Thailand has to offer at a reasonable price.

Sharka,

In all do respect I think you missed the point and conversation which is how to avoid the 150 baht charge that the Thailand Banks are charging to us Expat or any foreigner visiting Thailand.

The key is and there are exceptions but not many! If your CC isn't issue from a Bank in Thailand the % chances you will be charge the 150 Baht.

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Sharka,

In all do respect I think you missed the point and conversation which is how to avoid the 150 baht charge that the Thailand Banks are charging to us Expat or any foreigner visiting Thailand.

The key is and there are exceptions but not many! If your CC isn't issue from a Bank in Thailand the % chances you will be charge the 150 Baht.

LBM[/QUOTE]


LBM do you know the maximum allowable withdrawal limit?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Toptraveler1]1-I plan to go to Asia in about 15 days and I am wondering which of these two destinations is better in term of quantity, quality of service and specially girls and price?

2-How much I need to spend a wonderfull week in Pattaya?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Angeles city is a very small miniature compared to Pattaya. Most of the girls speak English there. So no big problem with the language. Almost same prices in numbers but peso cheaper than Baht. Nothing to do during the day.

Hard to answer about cost without knowing your life style. On average:
Hotel 1.500, food 500, drinks 500 girls 500-2.000 Baht per day.

There vare many cheaper or more expensive options as well.

You can try both flying direct from BKK to Clark on Cebu Pacific airline.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]I find your reports fairly repellent (and I know you don't care) but you are sinking to new lows in naming real names on this board. It's irrelevant whether they are members or not (and if they are, ISG guidelines say you will be banned outright). They are however presumably fellow mongers with interests akin to our own, and I'm sure don't care to be 'outed' on the forum.[/QUOTE]

Jean M. Bastien-Thiry really escaped to Pattaya.....Organisation Armée Secrète lives!! The OAS used many codes in their work.......names have been changed to protect the innocent.......the French are good like this.

[QUOTE=The Departed]First of all, deepest and most profound apologies for suggesting Pattaya had no orthodox Jews. ...
Secondly, Rolf Witmer from Bremen and Tony Marcello from Brooklyn, I fucked your time sharing Isaan girl friend up the ass yesterday afternoon. [/QUOTE]

I heard you cleaned up an earlier post that some (ok, including me) were annoyed by. So now I'll tell you what I would do if I was you: click on the link above that says Rules, read it, and try to keep them in mind when you write a post.

Actually, before that I would edit my post and delete any real names in it. Racial slurs too.

I'm telling you this because you seem to be on course to getting banned. The fact you went back and edited makes me think you're not trying to.

Either you haven't looked at the rules, or else you have and have decided to ignore them. (Which is it, by the way?)

But if someone reports that post to the moderator before you edit out those names, he might do that. Seriously. I've seen it before.

[QUOTE=El Greco]LBM do you know the maximum allowable withdrawal limit?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

El Greco,

It depends on a few things. What ATM machine you are using in Thailand. Some Banks put a limit on your withdraw for example the ATM machine outside the Landmark Hotel in Bangkok. This machine belongs to the Thai Military bank and the last time I needed emergency pussy money the maximun allowed was 5,000 to a foreign ATM card. Another example is in Pattaya, outside Foodland there is a Siam Commericail ATM, maximum is 10,000 baht. Personally I have no idea WTF, they are doing except if you come back more often for more baht, each time they get another 150 baht!

In the end, how much you can get is dependent on where your card was issue and what the daily limit is on your card. Example my Debit/Credit card is issue in the U.S. my Bank allows for a maximum of 500 USD a day. In Thailand with the exchange rate 33.95 to 1 baht, that gives me pretty much a maximun withdraw of 17,000 baht.

Hope that helps!

LBM

Can anybody tell me if it is possible NOT to get your passport stamped when entering or leaving Thailand. Don't want the wife knowing I was there!

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]El Greco,

It depends on a few things. What ATM machine you are using in Thailand. Some Banks put a limit on your withdraw for example the ATM machine outside the Landmark Hotel in Bangkok. This machine belongs to the Thai Military bank and the last time I needed emergency pussy money the maximun allowed was 5,000 to a foreign ATM card. Another example is in Pattaya, outside Foodland there is a Siam Commericail ATM, maximum is 10,000 baht. Personally I have no idea WTF, they are doing except if you come back more often for more baht, each time they get another 150 baht!

In the end, how much you can get is dependent on where your card was issue and what the daily limit is on your card. Example my Debit/Credit card is issue in the U.S. my Bank allows for a maximum of 500 USD a day. In Thailand with the exchange rate 33.95 to 1 baht, that gives me pretty much a maximun withdraw of 17,000 baht.

Hope that helps!

LBM[/QUOTE]

Thanks LBM.

Last April I was getting 20.000 from the purple machine near Landmark in BKK.

You see if they lower the limit then we have to pay more % in order to get the same amount. That's what they did in Argentina. It used to be 1.500 pesos per transaction and they lowered it to 300 which is only about 60€ nowdays.

In that way they increased five times the fees for getting the 1.500 pesos.
I have to pay 4€/transaction to my bank. So go figure. I only go with good old cash there trying to avoid their high fees.

[QUOTE=Tiger43]In my country they say: "barking dogs don't bite", but I still hope I will never meet Mr. Departed in France, in Asia or anywhere else in the world. He seems to be a violent man and actually not enjoying the good things Thailand has to offer at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]I completely agree Tiger. He is an obvious attention ***** who purposely says things to annoy and provoke members. Although I agree that he is probably all talk (barking dogs don't bite), that doesn't change the fact that even thinking and/or writing such dehumanizing, mean-spirited, sickening tripe, alone, would classify him a sociopath--I, like you, hope never to meet this "person". He is evil personified. Not to justify in any way his actions or words, but one can only imagine the horrendous life/childhood he must have endured to become such an unempathetic monster. I don't believe in god, but I'm a firm believer in karma. And I have no doubt he has, or will, endure more pain and humiliation than he has ever "supposedly" inflicted.

"In other living creatures ignorance of self is nature, in man it is vice"

Boethius

KT2

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Sharka,

In all do respect I think you missed the point and conversation which is how to avoid the 150 baht charge that the Thailand Banks are charging to us Expat or any foreigner visiting Thailand.

The key is and there are exceptions but not many! If your CC isn't issue from a Bank in Thailand the % chances you will be charge the 150 Baht.

LBM[/QUOTE]


No, didn't miss the point. I was just adding to what I had to say with helping everyone to save a few bahts, in this case, use the Capitol One CC when using it for regular card purchases to avoid all those Credit card fees involved with a purchase.

And if you look back a few days on the posts, it was I who originally pointed out that everyone was getting soaked because they were using a Foreign bank card to withdraw money from ATM and not a local bank card-I didn't have time to add details then as I was in a rush but this was what triggered the more detailed post later by others on how to open a local account etc.

Cheers

Shark

[QUOTE=Enbut]Can anybody tell me if it is possible NOT to get your passport stamped when entering or leaving Thailand. Don't want the wife knowing I was there![/QUOTE]

I don't think it is, but might be wrong since that stamp is your 30 day visa (could be wrong though, maybe there is a way).

They don't scan seem to scan your passport or anything, so a theoretical way of dealing with this is to report your passport lost and get a new, second passport. Then travel to Thailand and have them put the visa in the first, old passport, which you keep hidden when you're home.

Make sure you bring your new passport as well though, or you'll struggle to get back into your own country with a reported lost passport on your return!

I think some Americans would do this when they would travel to Cuba via Mexico?

a saudi friend wants to come to thailand, but you need permission from the saudi government to go. if he goes home with a thai stamp in his passport, it will be confirep001ed and he will not be able to get anouther passport for a while. does anyone know a way around this?

apart from the reporting the passport lost thing, as below:

- get a 2nd passport from another country (if possible)

- remove the page from the passport with a razor blade on your return or declare it lost as you re-enter saudi but have a photocopy of it and try and get back into saudi with that

- try and sweet talk the folks on admission to thailand to put the stamp on a piece of paper and then staple that into your passport. alternatively, present passport with such a piece of paper already stapled in and try and get them to stamp that

not great solutions, but hopefully a useful idea here.

[quote=gaolei]a saudi friend wants to come to thailand, but you need permission from the saudi government to go. if he goes home with a thai stamp in his passport, it will be confirep001ed and he will not be able to get anouther passport for a while. does anyone know a way around this? [/quote]

At last, the cops are caught doing something constructive:

[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/september/news_14_09_52_4.shtml[/url]

[QUOTE=Engjoe]Apart from the reporting the passport lost thing, as below:

- get a 2nd passport from another country (if possible)

- remove the page from the passport with a razor blade on your return or declare it lost as you re-enter Saudi but have a photocopy of it and try and get back into Saudi with that

- try and sweet talk the folks on admission to Thailand to put the stamp on a piece of paper and then staple that into your passport. Alternatively, present passport with such a piece of paper already stapled in and try and get them to stamp that

Not great solutions, but hopefully a useful idea here.[/QUOTE]

Gaolei,

Maybe it is a joke! But if your friend takes this guys advice, I personally suggest you being his friend chop off his dick! Cause that is exactly what the Saudi is going to do!

Take one illegal act and compound it with more illegal acts! By the time the Saudi are through with him. He will have a short dick, short fingers and one ear and his ass would be shreaded!

LBM

[QUOTE=Engjoe]- try and sweet talk the folks on admission to Thailand to put the stamp on a piece of paper and then staple that into your passport. Alternatively, present passport with such a piece of paper already stapled in and try and get them to stamp that[/QUOTE]
Say the immigration officer on entry does comply and stamps the paper, how is he going to explain it to a different immigration officer on departure? The chances of pulling that off are next to 0.

Normally I would never recommend Philippines over Thailand but if Saudis are not allowed to visit the Center of the Universe they should just go over there.

Why not just get permission from the saudi government? Is it that hard? Do they refuse permission? Why so? I have seen Saudia aircraft at BKK airport. Surely, if they don't want their people going there, they would not fly there?

Messing with your passport is not the smartest of ideas..............

Big trouble in tourist Thailand. Episode 2.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWmv9o_14rE[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhuXUdBmej8[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gamMhnultLs[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcOF39oneGY[/url]

this is the problem.
Pol Colonel Thawee Sodsong, director of the DSI, said his department had gathered enough evidence to charge Abu Ali for the murder of one of four Saudis, Abdullah A. al-Besri, who was gunned down in Bangkok in January 1990.
...
The original theft was committed by Thai labourer Kriangkrai Techamong, who was working at Prince Faisal's palace in Saudi Arabia in 1989.
...
Observers said the case, if fully exposed, could bring down a number of senior Thai government and police officials responsible for substituting the retrieved jewellery with crude fakes, including an imitation of the "priceless" Blue Diamond.
...
Efforts have been made to upgrade relations, but the Saudis have said full diplomatic ties will only return if the murder cases are resolved and the real Blue Diamond taken during the theft is found and returned.

A rare blue diamond was stolen from the Saudi king by a Thai. The Thai government sent back an obvious fake diamond and the Saudi's discovered it was fake. Since then the King declared it illegal for a Saudi to go to Thailand. When you walk on Soi 3 and 5 it is hard to believe, but it's true.

My friend in Saudi is coming for business, and maybe a little fun, but can't get a visa.

[quote=engjoe]apart from the reporting the passport lost thing, as below:

- get a 2nd passport from another country (if possible)

- remove the page from the passport with a razor blade on your return or declare it lost as you re-enter saudi but have a photocopy of it and try and get back into saudi with that

- try and sweet talk the folks on admission to thailand to put the stamp on a piece of paper and then staple that into your passport. alternatively, present passport with such a piece of paper already stapled in and try and get them to stamp that

not great solutions, but hopefully a useful idea here.[/quote]

not sure about in saudi, but i would think that tampering with your passport (by removing a page) is a crime in most western countries which would at the very least result in your passport being confirep001ed and some sort of exclusion being imposed on future passport applications. saudi penalties are probably even harsher.

Some of my thoughts on Pattaya

Visited the Massage Parlor just across and to the right from the Sabi. Went there on my last visit and, on both occassions, had a great time.

The women were outstanding, most great looking with big tits. However, when I asked if they gave bbbj the manager became a little sullen and said: "no, everything with condom on."

In my last trip the manager, who was an older guy, let me talk individually with the girls - not so this time.

Anyone know where I can get a good soapie, with bbbj?

As a result of the above, went to Soi 6 Me Friend You bar and, as I have read here, looked up Nok. No exageration, not a bad looking gal. Great service - thanks guys.

I still enjoy going to TIM's bar because of the vintage music videos. Great place to kill some time.

Beach Road appeared dead, but I did not get there until about 2am.

There is just so much here to scan it is mind bogling. Don't know where to start.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Big trouble in tourist Thailand. Episode 2.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWmv9o_14rE[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhuXUdBmej8[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gamMhnultLs[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcOF39oneGY[/url][/QUOTE]
thanks Run Mann, I am glad the young girl got off so easy. The stuff wasn't even hers.

More next week ?

Sorry I ever asked about passport stamps, the forum is getting bogged down on the subject, to the exclusion of the REAL BUSINESS of Pattaya. So c'mon guys what about de pussy reports.!

Anyone been to Devils Den recently? Does it live up to the website?

What about good 'semi legit' Thai massages.? You know, a nice massage with maybe a 'twist in the tail' to finish. If in the mood.

Keep the recommendations comin'

Enbut

[QUOTE=1Ball]thanks Run Mann, I am glad the young girl got off so easy. The stuff wasn't even hers.

More next week ?[/QUOTE]


Sure, I'll post them and I say that girl was very lucky.

[QUOTE=Enbut]Can anybody tell me if it is possible NOT to get your passport stamped when entering or leaving Thailand. Don't want the wife knowing I was there![/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure there is no way around it (after all, that is the whole point of passport stamps).

My only suggestion is to do what I did once (which only works if you are in transit to somewhere else), and buy a rubber stamp and inkpad, and use that to smudge the entry and/or exit dates. It only takes a tiny bit of ink to obscure the date. DON'T put a great big splodge on it. You can then claim to your wife that Thai immigration always stamps your passport when you are in transit, and that you did not actually stop in Thailand. You can probably get away with it once, but after that you are stuffed. :(

[QUOTE=Mouse1]You can then claim to your wife that Thai immigration always stamps your passport when you are in transit, and that you did not actually stop in Thailand. You can probably get away with it once, but after that you are stuffed. :([/QUOTE]

And how you explain to your wife (boss, co workers, etc..) when you are hauled off for passport fraud?

Seriously you don't want to be playing games with your passport just for a piece of pussy.

In today's world passport and Visa fraud are serious issues. If you mess with your dates, and you do happen to go through immigration again and they see an irregularity then you're gonna get questioned. Now can you talk your way out of that? Maybe but maybe not. I got questioned because they could not find my last exit stamp in my passport as it is so full up.

There are serious penalties and fines for messing with passports and countries take a dim view on altering your passport dates. And I don't even want to think about what will happen if you try to get someone to not stamp your passport or stamp a blank sheet or such.

All that risk for a piece of Isaan pussy juice???? And people think I'm crazy :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And I don't even want to think about what will happen if you try to get someone to not stamp your passport or stamp a blank sheet or such. [/QUOTE]

I'm not certain about Thailand, but in Turkey, Cyprus and Israel you can definitely get your immigration stamp on a piece of paper rather than in your passport. Typically it is to avoid Iranian nationals from having a stamp that shows you were in Israel. The Cypriots and Turks are aware of the sensitivities and are willing to stamp a piece of paper rather than an exit stamp if someone is going to Israel. The Israelis are willing not to stamp in either direction and then the Turks and Cypriots are willing not to stamp upon entry from Israel. I don't know of the Cypriots and Turks will do this as a general practice if Israel is not involved, but it does seem like something which is possible. Perhaps someone around here knows an immigration officer they can ask. ;)

Run Mann,

Thanks for posting episode 2 for the rest of us not in the UK Run Mann!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]And how you explain to your wife (boss, co workers, etc..) when you are hauled off for passport fraud?

Seriously you don't want to be playing games with your passport just for a piece of pussy.

In today's world passport and Visa fraud are serious issues. If you mess with your dates, and you do happen to go through immigration again and they see an irregularity then you're gonna get questioned. Now can you talk your way out of that? Maybe but maybe not. I got questioned because they could not find my last exit stamp in my passport as it is so full up.[/QUOTE]You miss the point. :( Look at your passport - a tiny little smudge of ink is enough to affect the figure, making a 3 look like a 7 or similar, so that a casual glance at two adjacent stamps will not show an obvious 4 day stay. This only works for a casual glance, and if your wife is suspicious then she can probably find other ways to check.

I wouldn't do it whilst in Thailand, as they will almost certainly look at your entry date. But you can do it as you return home, and I don't believe that next time I come to Thailand they will be scrutinising my passport to examine the exact dates of my previous previous trip.

If they did question me I might just say the immigration official in Copenhagen dropped his rubber stamp on the page...

Anyway, I agree that you don't want to mess with your passport in any other way as the penalties are very severe.

[QUOTE=D Cups]I have heard they do this in Cuba, too.[/QUOTE]


That is correct. They never (unless you specifically ask) stamp your passport either on entry or on exit from Cuba. Your tourist card, which is in two sections (arrival and departure) is stamped instead.

B04

[QUOTE=Henryv]Some of my thoughts on Pattaya

Visited the Massage Parlor just across and to the right from the Sabi. Went there on my last visit and, on both occassions, had a great time.

The women were outstanding, most great looking with big tits. However, when I asked if they gave bbbj the manager became a little sullen and said: "no, everything with condom on."

In my last trip the manager, who was an older guy, let me talk individually with the girls - not so this time.

Anyone know where I can get a good soapie, with bbbj?

As a result of the above, went to Soi 6 Me Friend You bar and, as I have read here, looked up Nok. No exageration, not a bad looking gal. Great service - thanks guys.

I still enjoy going to TIM's bar because of the vintage music videos. Great place to kill some time.

Beach Road appeared dead, but I did not get there until about 2am.

There is just so much here to scan it is mind bogling. Don't know where to start.[/QUOTE]


Henryv,

Funny thing you mentioned this... just two weeks ago I and another ISG, member met up with another two ISG, who don't live in Pattaya. We took them to Sabai land Soapie, this was around 1:30 PM. Not having been there myself for years I was surprised that every girls had large breast like that's all they interview and hired.

The one other thing that bother me was when I asked the Papasan if they give BBBJ, the guy snapped back in Thai ruinly! the same as you mentioned!
This somewhat pissed me off, and if I could speak Thai I would have given him a few choice words Mafia or not! It was like I was asking him if he gave a BBBJ, if it isn't offer just say no!

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
The one other thing that bother me was when I asked the Papasan if they give BBBJ, the guy snapped back in Thai ruinly! the same as you mentioned!
This somewhat pissed me off, and if I could speak Thai I would have given him a few choice words Mafia or not! It was like I was asking him if he gave a BBBJ, if it isn't offer just say no![/QUOTE]

I'm sure officially speaking it isn't on offer anywhere. Thailand is rapidly becoming yet another 'safe sex' police state. My Thai friends all use condoms for BJs (though it is only very rare that they even get BJs). On one unusual occasion where a colleague got an unexpected BBBJ in Udon Thani a few months ago, he fretted about it for hours after we left the brothel, and kept asking me if I thought he'd gotten hiv.

Obviously it is a bad idea to go to a place like Sabailand if you want any sort of good service, such as BBBJ. (And from the times I've stopped in to have a look, the girls aren't even very good looking anyway)

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Henryv,

Funny thing you mentioned this... just two weeks ago I and another ISG, member met up with another two ISG, who don't live in Pattaya. We took them to Sabai land Soapie, this was around 1:30 PM. Not having been there myself for years I was surprised that every girls had large breast like that's all they interview and hired.

The one other thing that bother me was when I asked the Papasan if they give BBBJ, the guy snapped back in Thai ruinly! the same as you mentioned!
This somewhat pissed me off, and if I could speak Thai I would have given him a few choice words Mafia or not! It was like I was asking him if he gave a BBBJ, if it isn't offer just say no!

LBM[/QUOTE]

Hey LBM, Yes it was nice to look at the quality of the ladies at the Soapie down in Pattaya, you gotta admit some were damn fine looking which surprised us all. But WE did say NO and walked out of there after the Papasan rudely basically told us to fuck off when we asked about BBBJ. At first we thought he was thinking we wanted BBFS he was so adamant.

Except one guy took one for the team and did take a lady. He did ask the girl if BBBJ was OK and she said house rules were NO BBBJ only covered BJ. It is reported she started the BJ BB but quickly covered it up. It is reported later that the other soapie is more liberal I guess in this regard.

While my friend was doing his research into soapies in Pattaya myself and another guy went to Soi 6 for some great BBBJ CIM and other action for about 1/3 the price. But we didn't get a bathtub.... Oh well :D

Is it me or are thai girls becoming overweight. Was just out in several gogos and noticed that the girls are getting plumper. I was sober too!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Is it me or are thai girls becoming overweight. Was just out in several gogos and noticed that the girls are getting plumper. I was sober too![/QUOTE]

Fat or Big or Solid? I found a lot more taller and more solid athletic body types then before, more curves, fewer 40 kg spinners then before with more athletic types but I am not going for the 40 kg spinners so that is good for me.

In some places yes I saw some pum poi girls. But overall I'd say there is more qty of more solidly built girls then before. Many girls I was with were active in Boxing or Football or some athletic event.

I did see a much larger increase in silicone and dyed blond hair jobs. But the qty of silicone was a real turn off for me.

Even the non P4P I was with are doing fitness more and more, and many of them were doing or looking at nose jobs.

[quote=tansak ktv]hey lbm, yes it was nice to look at the quality of the ladies at the soapie down in pattaya, you gotta admit some were damn fine looking which surprised us all. but we did say no and walked out of there after the papasan rudely basically told us to fuck off when we asked about bbbj. at first we thought he was thinking we wanted bbfs he was so adamant.

except one guy took one for the team and did take a lady. he did ask the girl if bbbj was ok and she said house rules were no bbbj only covered bj. it is reported she started the bj bb but quickly covered it up. it is reported later that the other soapie is more liberal i guess in this regard.

while my friend was doing his research into soapies in pattaya myself and another guy went to soi 6 for some great bbbj cim and other action for about 1/3 the price. but we didn't get a bathtub.... oh well :d[/quote]
yep, we saw 14 elegantly dressed girls sitting in a huge fishbowl; every one of them was attractive (at least 7/10); and 2 or 3 were stunners imho. all of them were smiling sweetly at us as we entered; some faces positively beamed upon eye contact; and they actually seemed to bounce up and down on their pretty bums at the prospect of being selected for duty. i was sorely tempted to take one until we heard the papasan shoot down our request for bbbj.

so, we settled for soi 6, and tansak ktv fucked his way up and down the lane until the few remaining girls rep001tered in all directions when they saw him coming.

i found a cute little 38k spinner with bald pussy and diamond in her tooth, who very much enjoyed the tongue lashing she received before providing me with a great bbbj.

just another boring day in paradise. :d

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Hey LBM, Yes it was nice to look at the quality of the ladies at the Soapie down in Pattaya, you gotta admit some were damn fine looking which surprised us all. But WE did say NO and walked out of there after the Papasan rudely basically told us to fuck off when we asked about BBBJ. At first we thought he was thinking we wanted BBFS he was so adamant.

Except one guy took one for the team and did take a lady. He did ask the girl if BBBJ was OK and she said house rules were NO BBBJ only covered BJ. It is reported she started the BJ BB but quickly covered it up. It is reported later that the other soapie is more liberal I guess in this regard.

While my friend was doing his research into soapies in Pattaya myself and another guy went to Soi 6 for some great BBBJ CIM and other action for about 1/3 the price. But we didn't get a bathtub.... Oh well :D[/QUOTE]


Tansak KTV,

No problem with girls, as you noted and I agree that most of them were very nice indeed with sizable breast on each of them. A Bra can only push them up so much! Soi 6, no wonder all the ladies seem so tired the next day! Girls very nice compare to the one you guys laughed at me when I pick the old lady and someone jokes she had no teeth. Went down the other day thinking about trying her from Red Point,, got a phone call right while talking she was standing right there. She had a nice dress on and a pretty nice body for being in her 30's, but she pull out a cig-smoking and I could see her teeth were rodden. After phone call drove off... a turn off for me.. no teeth would have been better!

Also, I think all of us there would agree that whatever the policy or how Soapie has changed for the better or worse that we asked a simple question to this prick and a proper and nice response would have suffice that it is house policy no BBBJ, but that wasn't the case here.

We know just like many of the places discussed here that once the door closes regardless of policy that they at times get broken just like in cases of Bareback.

It really doesn't matter whether we are in Thailand or not... simple question, simple answer... sorry sir only condom, house policy.

No, they are not big. About normal for Thai. However, she does have a nice body for a gal working in a bbbar.

[QUOTE=D Cups]Hi Henry, I'm going to Pattya next March to bang my kok on some of those big tits you mentioned. Does Nok have big ones? How big, please? :) PM me if you can. I would really appreciate it. Nothing like a soapie from a Dcupper![/QUOTE]

Again, last year they let me talk to the girl and let her decide, not so this year.

An interesting thing happened last year. I picked a gal and asked the manager for her to come out so I could talk with her. She came out and spoke to me in Vassar english. When I mentioned the fact her english was perfect and asked how she became so proficient, she literally got up and walked away.

Again, is there any other places in Pattaya you would recommend for a good soapie?



QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Henryv,

Funny thing you mentioned this... just two weeks ago I and another ISG, member met up with another two ISG, who don't live in Pattaya. We took them to Sabai land Soapie, this was around 1:30 PM. Not having been there myself for years I was surprised that every girls had large breast like that's all they interview and hired.

The one other thing that bother me was when I asked the Papasan if they give BBBJ, the guy snapped back in Thai ruinly! the same as you mentioned!
This somewhat pissed me off, and if I could speak Thai I would have given him a few choice words Mafia or not! It was like I was asking him if he gave a BBBJ, if it isn't offer just say no!

LBM[/QUOTE]

[quote=littlebigman]also, i think all of us there would agree that whatever the policy or how soapie has changed for the better or worse that we asked a simple question to this prick and a proper and nice response would have suffice that it is house policy no bbbj, but that wasn't the case here.

it really doesn't matter whether we are in thailand or not... simple question, simple answer... sorry sir only condom, house policy.[/quote]

that is 100% my opinion as well. when the papasan acted like a complete sob that really killed my enthusiasm for the joint. i would rather take my baht to a place that was at least social or hospitable.

[quote=daddy07]i was sorely tempted to take one until we heard the papasan shoot down our request for bbbj.[/quote]

that's the funny thing it wasn't really a request we were just asking a simple question about the house rules and he acted like we wanted to fuck him up the ass bareback.

[quote=daddy07]so, we settled for soi 6, and tansak ktv fucked his way up and down the lane until the few remaining girls rep001tered in all directions when they saw him coming.

i found a cute little 38k spinner with bald pussy and diamond in her tooth, who very much enjoyed the tongue lashing she received before providing me with a great bbbj. [/quote]

yeah i kind of did end up going bar to bar down there... and your little 38 kilogram spinner kept asking where you were. you should go back for a drink. i know some girls i was with are at home now recovering but will be back in pattaya soon.

my reports are still coming, catching up on work, home for two days then leaving again... :d

[QUOTE=Henryv]Again, is there any other places in Pattaya you would recommend for a good soapie? [/QUOTE]

The one farther down second (away from walking street) on the left hand side of the road, Sabai Sabai Soapie is like the name or like that.

The two names are almost identical but this one was reported more liberal then the Sabai Land (white colored house on the side of the road by the shopping center).

[QUOTE=Bill Miami]I have seen quite a bit of discussion about ATM's and credit cards.

If you coming here on vacation or for an extended stay, then you will be far better off using cash or travelers checks. Most if not all quality hotels will supply an in room safe. You can also use the house safe and will be supplied with a receipt when you leave money in it.

If you use a credit card to pay for your hotel as an example, your credit card company will charge a 3% fee for using it outside your country and virtually every Thai company will charge an additional 5% fee. So an 8% fee in total will be added any time your CC is used.

All ATM's I know of are now charging a 150 Baht fee, although a few have mentioned here that don't. I don't believe that will last too long. In addition your US bank will charge a fee from $2 to $10 and in many cases 1% of the amount withdrawn. It gets very expensive.

If you're coming here for an extended time, before you leave your country you need to set it up with them to do wire transfer via the telephone or internet. Almost assuredly you will need to use the telephone, I have not heard of any banks you can do international wires over the internet, but I am sure there are.

Then open a Thai bank account and wire the money in. This will provide you the best exchange rates and lowest fees. If you use your Thai banks ATM's there are not any fees. If you use another banks ATM's the fees are 20 to 30 Baht.[/QUOTE]

I used and E*TRADE debit card at all the ATM's. I was able to pull 20k Bhat out and the 150 Bhat fee (equiv $4) was refunded to my account with no additional fees on every ATM machine I visited. E*TRADE will refund all ATM fees foreign or domestic if you have the right account. The conversion rate seems to be spot on the Interbank rate you see published on the web.

I use Capital One credit card which doesn't charge an extra fee except for the VISA conversion rate. Make sure they charge in Bhat and not covert to USD.

Can anyone recommend a good tailor in the Beach Road area?

By the way the UOB ATM is no longer free. Used the one on Beach Road last night. 150 baht.

I called E-Trade, they said they charge for foreign ATM withdraws. What kind of account were you speaking about?

[QUOTE=Mr_Hoffy]I used and E*TRADE debit card at all the ATM's. I was able to pull 20k Bhat out and the 150 Bhat fee (equiv $4) was refunded to my account with no additional fees on every ATM machine I visited. E*TRADE will refund all ATM fees foreign or domestic if you have the right account. The conversion rate seems to be spot on the Interbank rate you see published on the web.

I use Capital One credit card which doesn't charge an extra fee except for the VISA conversion rate. Make sure they charge in Bhat and not covert to USD.[/QUOTE]

I had to show a Thai address when I set up my bank account here to get an ATM card. And if I remember right they only accepted a property title as proof that you lived here. It is my understanding that you must own property in Thailand to have a Thai Bank account. At least that was the case with me at my bank (savings account). I would be curious to hear from others here on that subject. Sorry if that info is already here somewhere I didn't bother to look; just stating my experience.

I am a little confused regarding your directions - "the one farther down second" - (its all me by the way, only 2nd time in Pattaya), could you be a little more specific.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]The one farther down second (away from walking street) on the left hand side of the road, Sabai Sabai Soapie is like the name or like that.

The two names are almost identical but this one was reported more liberal then the Sabai Land (white colored house on the side of the road by the shopping center).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Is it me or are thai girls becoming overweight. Was just out in several gogos and noticed that the girls are getting plumper. I was sober too![/QUOTE]

Yes, very much fatter. And they can get away with it in Pattaya as many foreigners don't mind. Have any of you noticed that even in pornography the fatter women are beginning to predominate, as men get used to what is available.

Still here in the upcountry the Thai taste predominates, so not many of the chubs can make it in the industry (or are relegated to lower-priced status).

[QUOTE=Wanderlust]I had to show a Thai address when I set up my bank account here to get an ATM card. And if I remember right they only accepted a property title as proof that you lived here. It is my understanding that you must own property in Thailand to have a Thai Bank account. At least that was the case with me at my bank (savings account). I would be curious to hear from others here on that subject. Sorry if that info is already here somewhere I didn't bother to look; just stating my experience.[/QUOTE]

Well, it was several years ago so maybe things have changed since, but I've been able to open a bank account in Thailand then showing only my passport at a branch of the Bangkok Bank. At that time, I was only a tourist and the only address in Thailand that I provided then was the address of the hotel where I was staying! It was a very easy and quick process (half an hour approximateley) and I got a Bangkok Bank Premier ATM card too.

[QUOTE=Wanderlust]I had to show a Thai address when I set up my bank account here to get an ATM card. And if I remember right they only accepted a property title as proof that you lived here. It is my understanding that you must own property in Thailand to have a Thai Bank account. At least that was the case with me at my bank (savings account). I would be curious to hear from others here on that subject.[/QUOTE]

About a year ago I opened an account with Siam Commercial Bank, at the branch in Jomtien (corner of Beach Road and Soi 4). I just needed to show my passport,

A few months ago I also opened another with the Kasikorn Bank, also in Jomtien. Again just needed a copy of my passport.

Seemed very straightforward in both cases.

The SCB gives you a Mastercard ATM card, Kasikorn give a Visa ATM card.

Not that I regularly use these cards outside of Thailand, however I have on occasion needed to withdraw some cash and I have found both worked every time.

B04

[QUOTE=Pita123] The Cypriots and Turks are aware of the sensitivities and are willing to stamp a piece of paper rather than an exit stamp if someone is going to Israel. The Israelis are willing not to stamp in either direction and then the Turks and Cypriots are willing not to stamp upon entry from Israel. I don't know of the Cypriots and Turks will do this as a general practice if Israel is not involved, but it does seem like something which is possible. Perhaps someone around here knows an immigration officer they can ask. ;)[/QUOTE]
Please be specific when you say Cyprus as the goverment controlled area of cyprus will NOT stamp a piece of paper, only a passport but the Turkish controlled area of the TRNC ( Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus ) will which is another reason that most all countries except Turkey dont recognise the TRNC as a country. Cyprus and the TRNC are 2 seperate places.

Henryv,

There is two major Soapie, in Pattaya there are others but you need to know Pattaya a little better to get to them by Songthaw or a motorbike.

The two major ones are Central Pattaya, head down 2nd Road, pass Pattaya Klang or Central Rd, as they call it. Head towards the Big C, or if you know where the famous Soi 6, is located.

Just before you get to Big C, you will see a white building on the right that is the first one, if you walk up 2nd Road from the first one towards Big C, you will see the other one across from Big C, you can't miss it, the sign is huge!

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]you will see the other one across from Big C, you can't miss it, the sign is huge![/QUOTE]

This is the one that was reported to be more liberal in it's house policy. Or atleast the staff was more friendly then the other one...

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
The two major ones are Central Pattaya, head down 2nd Road, pass Pattaya Klang or Central Rd, as they call it. Head towards the Big C, or if you know where the famous Soi 6, is located.

Just before you get to Big C, you will see a white building on the right that is the first one,[/QUOTE]
This is Sabai Dee Room Body Massage. I stopped by today at 1:11 with two wingmen but it was too early. They do not open until 2pm. There was only one girl there and she was rather old. This is the cheapest soapie in Pattaya. 1500 baht.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
if you walk up 2nd Road from the first one towards Big C, you will see the other one across from Big C, you can't miss it, the sign is huge![/QUOTE]
This would be Sabailand Body Massage. It is right on the corner of 2nd Road and Soi 3 next to a disco/gogo bar. The address is 102/1 Soi 3 North Pattaya. We arrived there today at 1:20 and had sessions. There were about 10 girls in the fishbowl at this time. The damage was 1600 baht for 90 minutes. Soapies are not my thing. Once you have had one then the novelty is gone.

There is one more soapie in this vicinity. As a matter of fact, if you blink you will probably miss it, as I did today. It is called Sabai Dee Body Massage. The address is 435/52 Moo 9, Pattaya 2nd Road. Big C's address is 78/1, Moo. 9, Pattaya 2nd Road. The lot numbers look far away for some reason but it is really only a stone's throw. At 1800 baht this is the 3rd cheapest soapie in Pattaya.

The fourth soapie is Heaven which is on Sukhumvit. The address is 149/352 Moo 9 Sukhumvit Road. Going down Central Pattaya Road as if you wanted to leave Pattaya, you would take a right onto Sukhumvit. Heaven is located on the left, directly next to the 7-Eleven you see after you make the turn. Sessions here are about 2000 baht.

The fifth and only other soapie that I know of is P.P. Body Massage. It is off of 3rd Rd. The address is 92/26-28 Moo 9, Soi Jirapol, Pattaya 3rd Road. It is the most expensive. This is the one that has one price for the girls with blue tags and another for the girls with red tags. They have brand new rooms in what appears to be a new four-story apartment building right across the parking lot from the main building where the fishbowl is. If you get the more expensive girl you get to use a new room. If you get the cheaper girl you have to use the old rooms in the main building.

Been a long time since I was in Pattaya however a friend on ISG wanted to visit for two days to see if he would enjoy the location. So being a good friend I said OK that it would be acceptable with me that I’d go have sex (with girls) in Pattaya for a while.

We arrived on a Tuesday afternoon and stayed at Bay Walk Residence suggested by an ISG member and we got a good rate. The rooms were OK, deluxe suites and had a good couch arrangement that was L shaped and made for perfect monger positions, multiple different positions. The room was a little musty and my friends room had little hot water for some reason, the location is a two minute walk to Walking Street so that was nice and was right on Beach Road. The taxi from Soi 11 in BKK to Pattaya we made an agreement for 1,000 baht, they left the meter on and the true meter taxi rate was 1,100 baht so we tipped the guy a little and we did pay all tolls.

Upon arrival we did a day time walk of Walking Street then back to Soi 6 then back to the hotel. Did not see much on Beach Road and we decided to hang out a little. We made plans to meet with an ISG member that night and meet up with him on Soi 8 at Sailor Bar which had great drink prices and food prices. From there we went over to Walking Street. He took us to Happy GoGo which was very enjoyable place, the girls, the location, the quality, the pricings, had no issues with Happy I could hang out there every night. But as we were relatively virgins in Pattaya we wanted to get more of a sample and we moved on to some places like Windmill and others. Nothing was catching our attention so we moved over to Peppermint.

At Peppermint my friend found a girl he liked and I rotated a few girls buying them drinks asking if they could perform 6 times etc… The ISG member was laughing at how I worked the girls to find one that would commit and understand. As it looked like my friend was going to pull from Peppermint and it was getting late I started to lay my ground work. I pull a girl from a place who will agree to performing with power 6 times or such. As they all laugh or think I am bull shit most admit to saying OK but I offer to bring two girls and I tell them if they leave earlier then long time or stop performing then they don’t get paid. Found a girl said she was 25 but really was 28, said she could last as long and as many times as I could.

OK struck the deal, got her back to my room, two shots on goal and bam she is running out the door saying she will die. Pisses me off but I come to expect this so gave her short time money, 1,000 baht (for me that is short time money in Pattaya) and told her I will be back at the bar later to find girls who can perform. Usually after taking one girl and she understands that I am not bull shitting them that word spreads and I then find that working girls who are either wanting a challenge or the girls who are seriously horny or nympho’s will come talk to me after I take the first girl so I consider the first girl as laying the ground work. As it was still early I hit up Beach Road and found two girls and took them back to the room and got two shots each. Still was not satisfied :(

Morning came around and we had breakfast at Apex I think, 110 baht all you can eat, nothing special but the coffee was fine and all you can drink, still the food was edible and a quick walk and it was all you could eat. I eat more then that in the cost of fruit normally so not big deal (and folks I’m not a cheap Charlie but the ISG local’s show you where you get good food and service for an acceptable local price, I am not a big spender or throw money away needlessly, pattaya is just cheaper then other places). We spent a couple of hours, a few senior ISGer’s hanging out and talking about our favorite hobby, Thailand, life in general etc… Was well worth the breakfast and time to get the local low down and was enjoyable to put faces to names. From there as my friend is addicted to soapies we hit up Sabai Soapie I think. Forget the name really but there appears to be two main soapies in town.

He went for the soapie and as the local rules are covered BJ only that killed it for me, so he took one for the team and did a recon mission at the soapie house while I went to Soi 6. Forgot to mention after breakfast we walked Soi 6 to get a lay of that land area then we went to the soapie. So now I’m left without a soapie or MP so what would me and the other ISG member do… hit Soi 6 of course.

For me, I was with a local ISG member so it was his turf I walked on his heels pretty much and let him pick up a girl and we walked up and down and he found one he started to talk to. He walked into a bar near 2nd road, I’m going to keep the name private as there is a reason. I being a virgin pretty much walked in the bar also and did not pick a girl from outside only to turn around and walk back out and just look at the poor morning talent. I saw two girls I would have nailed just to nail them and I asked who had the most power of the group, they all pointed to one girl (and it turned out it was a joke as she was new) and she was one of the two I would have nailed just to nail her so fine, off we go.

The rooms were actually nice. Later I tried a few more places on soi 6 and these were some of the best I saw. Anyways this girl took everything I could throw at her and I was horny as the night before left me frustrated. I hate girls who bolt so I was in prime form. This girl to take and could give a good screw. Exactly what the doctor ordered. So after wards meet up with the ISG member and then off to the hotel to catch up with my friend. He wanted to go out to Peppermint to get his girl from the night before and I wanted to show him Soi 6 as he did not see it due to his Soapie Run.

So hitting up Soi 6, I had already reserved the girl from lunch with a joiner for later that night. But being a good wing man I would do what any good guy would do and take my buddy out and show him Soi 6 and nail a girl just to nail her. Again I let my fried walk and lead the way and he found a girl he liked and I picked one and off we go. He comes out later exhausted and enjoyed. I of course enjoyed my time so my buddy goes off to Peppermint and I go up to bar from earlier in the day to get the girl.

At this bar I get the girl and find her friend, an ugly 30 year old but hey, she was a nice girl and she was a friend of the girl I picked and she promised a good girl show so OK can do. While we were there a young hard body girl comes in and starts talking to the girl I was with. Turns out it was her real life 20 year old sister. HELLO !!!!!! Ok there are some things I go for and sisters is one of them. I talk to my girl and she tells me if I want to take her sister it is OK she would be happy to have her with us as she is young and she could control the situation. I asked her if she was serious that it would not be bad or unusual for her to see me nail her sister and she said she works a bar and she knows what happens atleast with me she could be there incase she has problems as she is new. GAME ON…

So off we go to the hotel. Round 1) eating all three, the ugly one gets wet as hell, the younger sister was tasty as hell, the girl I am with was performing better then the afternoon. Continuing to all three sucking and doing a circle on the bed with the ugly girl and my girl while baby sister is watching. I get to screw my girl, the ugly girl, then baby comes over and rides me. She gets off on me in cowboy and falls off me giggling and laughing and I had to take it slow and gentle with her as she was so damn tight and young. So old ugly girl jumps on and takes a ride to completion after I turn her over and take her doggie on the L shapped couch so I did not have to look at her face. So… I had sisters in bed together and ate them both at the same time and finished, so off we go to meet up with my friend at Peppermint.

He was obviously happy in his adopted bar now as he had a great table location and was surrounded by his girl and her friends. In walk me and three girls (including a sister team) raised some eyebrows but the reports of the night before had started to talk as the girl did not show up to work and having three girls to take care of me got the word around also that I am serious in wanting some girls who can screw. I’m getting the feeling that the Peppermint “good girls” were not happy to see the low class Soi 6 girls on their turf but for me the Soi 6 girls had better English and knew how to take care of a guy. Soi 6 girls are the girls we all play with but the Hostess girls are the girls some guys want to take out in public :D And I like to stir the pot once in a while so I was happy to cause a little friction. Anyways after doing this we went out to play some pool then back to the room and guess what, more sex… Damn how I hate when that happens. Rode the three all night long and rotated them in and out of bed.

Long time for Soi 6 girls I found out later usually means two shots on goal and 2,000 baht. I paid 2,000 baht per girl and I had more then 2 shots on goal for each. I also… got all of them off more then two times each, my girl had 7 completions that day and the ugly girl had 5 + and baby sister had 3 (she went home early and paid her 1,000 baht as she asked for only that). But I did get to nail baby two times and she was fun. Yeah SISTERS…..

Next day comes around… what is a guy supposed to do… Well my friend and I went back to Soi 6, he enjoyed his night with his Peppermint Princess so great for him but he was ready to hit the dirty girls of Soi 6 again. We walked up and down until he found a girl he liked more towards the beach road. As I was screwing all night long I was not really looking to score so I was talking to the girls outside. Turns out there was a new girl from Cambodia, 3 days on the job, never went with customer or farang… Oh shit now that is a challenge I could not pass up. I bet the girl that I could get her to finish 2 times minimum and she would finish before me and if I could do that then I not pay her. The other girls were laughing and joking and sure deal was struck. Off we go. Up stairs the girl is shy and she is bigger then I would take but she had a nice smile and liked to laugh and joke so I could screw her without issue. Turns out she finished three times, we were covered in sweet, went through two condoms as she wanted to suck me off in the middle, and I finally scored on goal. I new this was going to happen as I had screwed all night long but she got me going. Going outside she paid me 5 baht per finish and told me that a deal was a deal and gave me the money back (she asked first for 500 baht before we started) and I paid her with a tip even if she returned the money she was a fun girl.

Now my buddy is exhausted so off to the bar near 2nd road and he has a drink and I’m talking to my girl. They lower the bar fine as it was still early and I take a 20 year old, my girl, and her sister again. Two hard body thai girls and the 25 year old sister… shit… thank you god for your creations. Off to the hotel, did not hear from my friend at all that night (turns out he had some bad street food probably and spent the rest of the night in the toilet in his room) and the local ISG guy text me that he was at Happy waiting and I told him what I had and that I was Happy myself in my room.

That night, after a few completions my girl is getting calls from her room mate, a problem, so off they go for three hours, this gets me pissed off, so I tell her to go fuck herself and all sorts of things, turns out they come back and explain the issues which is all believable and understandable but I was still pissed off so I nailed the young 20 year olds while the 25 year old watched. Yes very wrong thing to do but it upset me they ran off for three hours without a phone call. And hell I’ll admit it the 20 year olds have smoking hot bodies. Ask the 20 year olds to visit me in BKK and was pakwan to them a little to upset the older girl and this sure did work. Off to bed, to actually rest as I did not have much rest the day before. The baby runs home again, and the other 20 year old wants to go to play pool so who cares I had my completions and I could care less about the cash so they went off and the older girl stayed.

Boy was this a mistake. Girls in Bangkok kept calling until 2 am and my work woke me up at 4 am Thailand time and my phone is set to some obnoxious ring tone that will guarantee that I get up for the calls and text messages. So I ended up screwing the older girl all night until 12 the next afternoon. Took her back to Soi 6… barfined her even though I was leaving for BKK, got one last shot on goal in the short time room…

Now back in BKK I was screwing BKK girls waiting for the three girls to show up on Sunday, supposed to be 4 pattaya girls to take care of the rabbit but only three showed up as baby sister got red… :D :D

Overall impressions… I’m still not sold on Pattaya. You have to be in the right frame of mind to take pattaya and you need the right hotel. Pattaya is all about Sex, to me the town was created for sex and it feeds off sex. This is not a bad thing, there are a lot more bars then other places and more girls. You can find everything you want, I wanted girls that could perform and I found it. My friend wanted a porcelain princess and he found what he was looking for. It is a hell of a lot cheaper then BKK of course but the girls are not better, in fact I think the girls are more into the game and it is harder to find the right match.

There are just too many options and areas, and many girls would try to bait and switch, agree to LT and want ST later or such. I think the girls know the game better and you can get rolled easily in Pattaya is my opinion. However as it is a town about sex I like how the people treat the girls better. In BKK anyone who works the sex industry is shunned and an outcast immediately. In Pattaya they are more open it appears and I like this as I hate people who treat other people like they are lower then them.

Needless to say it will require much more research to form a proper opinion. The unfortunate thing is that I already have the next visit booked and am trying to figure out how to squeeze in some time for Pattaya to do more research in the name of ISG members….

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I’m still not sold on Pattaya... Pattaya is all about Sex, to me the town was created for sex and it feeds off sex.[/QUOTE]Yes, KTV, I can see why this wouldn't be your sort of thing... :)

[QUOTE=Opebo]

Still here in the upcountry the Thai taste predominates, so not many of the chubs can make it in the industry (or are relegated to lower-priced status).[/QUOTE]
Are you living upcountry now? Where?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Henryv,There is two major Soapie, in Pattaya there are others but you need to know Pattaya a little better to get to them by Songthaw or a motorbike.

The two major ones are Central Pattaya, head down 2nd Road, pass Pattaya Klang or Central Rd, as they call it. Head towards the Big C, or if you know where the famous Soi 6, is located.

Just before you get to Big C, you will see a white building on the right that is the first one, if you walk up 2nd Road from the first one towards Big C, you will see the other one across from Big C, you can't miss it, the sign is huge!

LBM[/QUOTE]
Actually, there are 3 soapies in the general area of the Big C, all on 2nd Road.

Heading North from Central Road, the one on the right, or East side of 2nd Road, about a block before Big C, which is an ornate white building with 4 columns in front, is Sabai Room.

There are 2 on the left or West side of 2nd Road: the first one you come to is called Sabai Land, and it's recognizable by the sheet metal covering the entire front of the building. It actually looks like a warehouse, but it's the real deal. It's directly across the street from Big C.

Just a little farther on the same side of the street, the left or West side, is Sabai Dee.

Although certain members have favorites, my experience has been that it depends more on the girl than the soapy parlor itself.

BTW, there is another soapy on Walking Street in the Diamond Beach Hotel on Soi Diamond. There are big signs all over that point to it.

At this one, however, you just pay a house fee (last time I was there it was 700 THB), choose your girl, go to a room, and must negotiate the price with the girl. If I remember correctly, the papasan told me that generally the girls ask for 1,000 THB, so I was prepared to spend that amount. But when you're already in the room the girls get cocky and start by asking MUCH more than 1,000. I was there only once, and the place was old and musty, but the location is great for tourists that don't want to stray too far from Walking Street.

Surely not as good a business model as the 3 soapies on 2nd road. I much prefer to pay the all inclusive price at the other soapies of about 1600 to 1800 THB, and not worry about negotiating while almost naked.

After sessioning at the soapie today my wingmen and I had lunch at Big C. When we walked into the restaurant I saw that the hostess was a ladyboy. However one of my wingmen decided to announce it to the entire world by saying "that's a ladyboy, that's a ladyboy." I told him to chill with that shit. The last thing you want to do anyway is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the person who is bringing your food. Obviously my other wingman missed the whole thing because 20 minutes later when the hostess passed by he was saying how he would light her up. We started laughing and told him that it was a guy.

After eating we took a stroll down Soi 6 stopping in at My Friend You Bar for a quick beer. Then we rode our scooters through Jomtien Beach. We checked the price of jetskis from Joom who runs her business on the beach right across from the temple. She said the big one is 1000 for 30 minutes and the small one is 700 for 30 minutes. We got her to come down to 900 for the big one and told her that we would return tomorrow to take her up on it. Then we headed back to the hotel for a nap.

We woke up at 10:30 to go to Walking Street. We headed to Insomnia where we were given 50% off drink coupons upon entering. The club was dead. The waiter told me that about 2am it would liven up, but the drink coupon was only good until midnight. We went to 7-Eleven for juice then bought kebabs to eat while standing in front of Lucifer watching the talent go back and forth.

A bargirl who I had met some time ago on TLL passed by and saw me. I told her that whenever I pass by the bar I stop in to speak but she is never there. We chatted for a moment then I told her that I would call her later.

One of my regulars, who I have not seen since March came up to me. I told her that I was here in July and did not see her. She informed me that she had gone home for 5 months and had just returned. I could tell she had been eating home cooking because she is getting a little pumpui.

Me and my wingman were clowning around with her and her friend when the girl I took from the disco last night came up. She was looking stunning. My other wingman rousted us out of bed at an early 9:30 this morning because it is his first time in Pattaya and he wants to do as much as he can. I obliged and gave her 1000 baht before kicking her out.

After standing in front of the disco for about an hour, one wingman decides he wants to go in to check out the talent. We went to my usual spot in the back. He asked me who I was going to take tonight. I told him that I would love to have someone new but it looked as if the ones I have already been with are the best ones around. Just then my other wingman popped up with a girl and said he was going back to the hotel. My other wingman said that he was thinking about taking the one I had last night. I told him that he really should. It was actually him who passed her off to me last night. She was only wearing a blue jean dress and trainers then. Today he saw what a big mistake that was when she showed up well dressed. She has been in the game 10 years but shows no signs of it from any angle (attitude, physical, etc.). There is nothing about her that says pro at all.

I was contemplating on taking my regular but but decided on taking a stroll around the club before making a final decision. I hardly ever make small talk. My first words are usually, "Let's go." I ran into a gem and decided to tell her. She said go where? I said to my place. She said that I would have to pay her. I told her that I come to Pattaya often and was sure of that. She asked me how much and I said huh 1000 baht of course. She said short time? I said definitely not. So she declined.

I went to another part of the disco and spotted another one, tall just the way I like them. I gave her the same "let's go." Just then the waitress came with drinks for her and her friend. I told her that I wanted to go back to my room. She said to give her 5 minutes. I showed her that I was starting my stopwatch. After a minute and a half she said that she was ready and brought her beer with her. We hopped on my scooter and headed for the hotel.

It was about 1am when we arrived at the hotel. We sat around talking then she showed me how download and sign up for Camfrog. She said I could meet many Thai ladies that way. Finally we took showers. When we got out we relaxed in the bed talking. Her phone was on the nightstand and started to ring. She wanted to answer it but I told her no. Then we got down to business. Everything was on point. Zero complaints. When it was over I went to wash up. I came back thinking we would be falling off to sleep. But instead she pulled the okie doke.

She said that it was her friend who had called and she had forgotten to give her the card to get into the condo before we left the disco. I said no problem call and tell her to come here and pick it up. She goes on about how she is waiting and is supposed to bring it to her in 15 minutes. I said okay you only live two streets over on Central Pattaya Rd. You go and come right back. She pretty much refused. But I was refusing too. She asked how much I would give her if she came back. I told her 1000 baht. She did not want it. She said that she would come back in the morning. Then she tried to say that she has never stayed the night with a customer. Bullshit. You just told me earlier that you don't like the navy guys because they always have to go to work in the morning and they leave you in bed alone. I took out a 1000-baht bill and asked her if she had 500. She said she did not because she had spent it on drinks earlier. I said okay then I will go to 7-Eleven for change. I got the change and gave her 500 baht. This was at 4am. This little episode has reminded me that all cell phones must be turned completely off before entering the Den of Sin. NO EXCEPTIONS! (or depending on how you look at it that I should hammer out a deal for time and price before leaving the disco).

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] (Day 1) … OK struck the deal, got her back to my room, two shots on goal and bam she is running out the door saying she will die. Pisses me off but I come to expect this … As it was still early I hit up Beach Road and found two girls and took them back to the room and got two shots each. Still was not satisfied :( …

(Day 2) … I saw two girls I would have nailed just to nail them and I asked who had the most power of the group, they all pointed to one girl (and it turned out it was a joke as she was new) and she was one of the two I would have nailed just to nail her so fine, off we go.

… this girl took everything I could throw at her and I was horny as the night before left me frustrated…

So hitting up Soi 6, I had already reserved the girl from lunch with a joiner for later that night… Again I let my fried walk and lead the way and he found a girl he liked and I picked one and off we go. He comes out later exhausted and enjoyed. I of course enjoyed my time …

At this bar I get the girl and find her friend, an ugly 30 year old … While we were there a young hard body girl comes in and starts talking to the girl I was with. Turns out it was her real life 20 year old sister. HELLO !!!!!! …. GAME ON…

So off we go to the hotel. Round 1) eating all three, the ugly one gets wet as hell, the younger sister was tasty as hell, the girl I am with was performing better then the afternoon. Continuing to all three sucking and doing a circle on the bed with the ugly girl and my girl while baby sister is watching. I get to screw my girl, the ugly girl, then baby comes over and rides me. She gets off on me in cowboy and falls off me giggling and laughing and I had to take it slow and gentle with her as she was so damn tight and young. So old ugly girl jumps on and takes a ride to completion after I turn her over and take her doggie on the L shapped couch so I did not have to look at her face. So… I had sisters in bed together and ate them both at the same time and finished,

…then back to the room and guess what, more sex… Damn how I hate when that happens. Rode the three all night long and rotated them in and out of bed.

Long time for Soi 6 girls I found out later usually means two shots on goal and 2,000 baht. I paid 2,000 baht per girl and I had more then 2 shots on goal for each. I also… got all of them off more then two times each, my girl had 7 completions that day and the ugly girl had 5 + and baby sister had 3 (she went home early and paid her 1,000 baht as she asked for only that). But I did get to nail baby two times and she was fun. Yeah SISTERS…..

(Day 3) ... Next day comes around… what is a guy supposed to do… Well my friend and I went back to Soi 6, … Turns out there was a new girl from Cambodia, … she finished three times, we were covered in sweet, went through two condoms as she wanted to suck me off in the middle, and I finally scored on goal...

Now my buddy is exhausted … and I take a 20 year old, my girl, and her sister again. Two hard body thai girls and the 25 year old sister… shit… thank you god for your creations…

That night, after a few completions … I was still pissed off so I nailed the young 20 year olds while the 25 year old watched…

…So I ended up screwing the older girl all night until 12 the next afternoon. Took her back to Soi 6… barfined her even though I was leaving for BKK, got one last shot on goal in the short time room…

Now back in BKK I was screwing BKK girls waiting for the three girls to show up on Sunday, … [/QUOTE]

Hahahaha … 3 days in the life of Tansak KTV.

I became exhausted just reading it.

Pattaya is still recovering from the invasion.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]We sat around talking then she showed me how download and sign up for Camfrog. She said I could meet many Thai ladies that way. [/QUOTE]

I have read about camfrog a couple of years ago, I think it was here at ISG. Downloaded and registered last night but can't find any asian or thai rooms. From what i remember from last time I used it there was at least an asian room.

Anybody here who use Camfrog and can give us a quick update about how it works and best way find thai girls. I have noticed its possible to search camfrog members from their web site, but its a bit of a work to click all female thai members to check their online status. Maybe I'm not doing this the right way.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]I have read about camfrog a couple of years ago, I think it was here at ISG. Downloaded and registered last night but can't find any asian or thai rooms. From what i remember from last time I used it there was at least an asian room.

Anybody here who use Camfrog and can give us a quick update about how it works and best way find thai girls. I have noticed its possible to search camfrog members from their web site, but its a bit of a work to click all female thai members to check their online status. Maybe I'm not doing this the right way.[/QUOTE]
Yes. She tried to show me the Thai room but finally figured out that you have to sign up for Camfrog Pro to go to the rooms and to see as many cams as you want at the same time. US$49.95 one time fee.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Yes. She tried to show me the Thai room but finally figured out that you have to sign up for Camfrog Pro to go to the rooms and to see as many cams as you want at the same time. US$49.95 one time fee.[/QUOTE]ok guys I just dowloded camfrog.com took me few minutes. Then filled name pass etc. All free. Only campro has some fees. After log in go to thai class. Easy done. Then you can click on any pics of girl you want.

I cheched out this afternoon. Got a date easy. Looks like she a pro. Give me phone number without any question who I am. Meeting anytime. Anywhere. So looks like she realy a pro not sure I will date her.

Will continue this evening to see if I get a real student.

"Long time for Soi 6 girls I found out later usually means two shots on goal and 2,000 baht."

--> in my experience, without any bargaining, I've paid 1000 plus 400 BF, and got as many sessions as I could stand. I gave some tips, bought breakfast, etc.

The Devils Den formally the Hell Club has been raided again
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/....shtml[/url]

[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]The Devils Den formally the Hell Club has been raided again
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/....shtml[/url][/QUOTE]
They must have really pissed someone off, their website is also down again.

[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]The Devils Den formally the Hell Club has been raided again
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/....shtml[/url][/QUOTE]
What is the complete url of that link?
It must have been raided today because I was just there last night about 7pm.

[QUOTE=Opebo]The reason for the confusion here, Mr. Enternational, is that she was misrepresenting the situation to you. Everyone most certainly does not know that 500 is the price for short time because just a year or two ago it was 300, and it is still 300 in many, many occurrences.[/QUOTE]
You fucking said it so I fucking tried it...and did it!

I'm getting out of Pattaya one hour from now so at 10:45 I went to get my final massage. I was leaving from there to pick up a honey off Beach Rd for the 500 baht regular. As I walked down Soi 7 I was accosted by bar girls. There was one who I really went for so I told her to write her number and I would send her a text with instructions once I got back to the hotel.

I went down to Beach Rd and took a left on the beach side. I walked about 50 meters when I saw the one I would be taking. She approached me and asked to go with me. I told her there were lots of police around. She said that they didn't care. I told her that I only needed her for an hour. She said it would be 500. I said come on it is only an hour. Then she dropped to 400. Remembering what Opebo said I decided to try for the 300. And it worked. I just knocked her off and my wingman inquired and she gave him the same deal. So she is in his room right now.

I don't know what the stigma about Beach Rd is but I have never seen or had trouble there, all the girls I have had give good service, and frankly it's some of the best pussy I have had here in Pattaya hands down. Here are pictures hot out of the camera. (Technical Difficulties: for some reason I have been having trouble uploading fotos onto various sites since I arrived in Pattaya. I will try again when I get out of Thailand.)

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]What is the complete url of that link?
It must have been raided today because I was just there last night about 7pm.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/september/news_19_09_52_2.shtml[/url]

Went to the massage parlour in the Diamond Hotel on Walking Street. The women were absolutely hideous. All looked like they were trapped in McDonalds for about two months, i.e, large, jumbo, and extra jumbo. So bad as to not even have any comic value.

Asked the manager what the girls charge, he responded: "around 1000bht." Pressed him about the "about," he said: "sometime they ask for 800 somtime 700."

Barfined a very tall gal from Oasis that looked just like Uma Therma (Pulp Fiction). Great time and not a bad lay. Like the attitude of the gals there more so than on the big clubs on Walking Street. One manager of such a club on Walking Street askd me why I was leaving after only one drink, I told him I could do a better job at ignoring myself.

Beach Road is lively and I found that, if you take your time, you can pick out a gem here or there. Ran into a gal with a great rack in the area around Siam Hotel. They are also more liberal with sex. In the famous words of Hannibal Lector, they will let you "do things" to them.

Sure would like to find a place I can get as good body massage with bbbj. As noted in my previous post, the Sabi Room and the other large place across the street have "house policy" on condom use.

Hi gents,

Just a quick question. Any recent reports/feedback on Diana Inn? I usually stay at Secrets but prefer a pool. Areca Lodge is booked. Does the room have a safe?
The web pics don't give away much.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Sainter21]Hi gents,

Just a quick question. Any recent reports/feedback on Diana Inn? I usually stay at Secrets but prefer a pool. Areca Lodge is booked. Does the room have a safe?
The web pics don't give away much.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Just stayed there last week for the 2nd time. No safe in room. A private box available at the front desk (open 7 am -8pm).
Great swimming pool with enough chairs and parasols. Good choice on free breakfast. Rooms clean

I stopped in at 2 bars on soi 6, they both had two rules(at least) all girls have to shave pubic hair, and have to use the condom, this not true for all bars is it? as I am not generaly a bar person. but there seems to be a lot of dogs on beach road. ditto many bars on soi 6.

[QUOTE=Lee66]I stopped in at 2 bars on soi 6, they both had two rules(at least) all girls have to shave pubic hair, and have to use the condom, this not true for all bars is it? as I am not generaly a bar person. but there seems to be a lot of dogs on beach road. ditto many bars on soi 6.[/QUOTE]

Don't know about all bars or if it is a rule but most of the girls are indeed shaved. It's a rarity to find a real muff these day. As for condom use, scroll back a few pages and you will discover that rules are made to be broken as that one most often is.

[QUOTE=Henryv]Like the attitude of the gals there more so than on the big clubs on Walking Street.[/QUOTE]I find Oasis is consistently one of the best little go-gos in town. Usually a good lively atmosphere, and pretty much all good experiences with the takeaways. If you stay around Buakhao it's not a bad place to make your local.

[QUOTE=Lee66]I stopped in at 2 bars on soi 6, they both had two rules(at least) all girls have to shave pubic hair, and have to use the condom, this not true for all bars is it? as I am not generaly a bar person. but there seems to be a lot of dogs on beach road. ditto many bars on soi 6.[/QUOTE]

Half the girls I was with were shaved, 1/4 were trimmed, and 1/4 had hair.

Hi,

Stayed in Marriott last year for a few days what a dump! Never seen a 5star so bad please suggest a good hotel for me I prefer 5star and is girl friendly.

The only rule that I can think of that applies to all bar girls is that there are NO RULES. LOL

Case in point:

- They will tell you that there are "no ladyboys working here" when there are obviously some.

- When ask if they have a boyfriend the sure answer is "no".

- They will neglect to tell you about the 3 other guys that are sending them money every month.

- They will not tell you that you can not own land/house in Thailand.

I am sure there are many others..But when it comes to love, sex, and war there are no rules just remember that much.

[QUOTE=Lee66]I stopped in at 2 bars on soi 6, they both had two rules (at least) all girls have to shave pubic hair, and have to use the condom, this not true for all bars is it? As I am not generaly a bar person. But there seems to be a lot of dogs on beach road. Ditto many bars on soi 6.[/QUOTE]from what I checked myself on soi 6 it was something like 2/3 shaved 1/3 not shaved.

Never heard that they are told by the bars. Only their friends exchange job experiences.

Mike

[QUOTE=Jeff46]ok guys I just dowloded camfrog.com took me few minutes. Then filled name pass etc. All free. Only campro has some fees. After log in go to thai class. Easy done. Then you can click on any pics of girl you want.

.[/QUOTE]

By thai class do you mean Camfrog Thailand? Doesn;t seem to be anything else

Its 99.9% thai language!

Decient full body massage and excellent BBJ from not knockouts but certainly decient looking 30's ladys is available on Soi Bakow. Go to the entry of Soi LK Metro and look accross the street to the far side slightly to the right. There will be about 5 girls sitting out front. I found Goa or Boa to give the very best BBJ CIM you will ever have. 200 for massage and 500 to girl. Beds are on the floor, which is not perfect. Anything goes. Great value!

Cactus J

Leaving Pattaya in about an hour.

Pattaya shows the value of this board and why I stay a paying member. Simply put, Pattaya is so large as to be unmanagable. That is why over the past month I have been combing this board for informaion. I believe the most important information for Pattaya comes in the form of the name of the club, and the name and experience with the gal.

Case in point, after walking all over this City yesterday I wound up at Chili's on Soi 6. Looked up a girl named Lek that a fellow monger on this board recommended. Turned out that although she was not a spring chicken (claimed to be 34), I decided to give her a try. She was great, she let me do things to her that I would not do to a barn animal - Naturally, we did discuss terms and services before I barfined her.

I thow this out - could there be a thread devoted soley to such type of information, e.g., good service by bar name and lady name. I think it would be extremely helpful in such a place as this.

In closing, visited Champaign on Soi Diana, no gal would even make eye contact with me. I noticed they avoided eye contact with many of the customers. Therefore, I would avoid this place.

Went to a rather dumpy bar called Nevada, cheap beer. The whole time I was there all the girls danced with their backs to me. No, concept of customer serivice, such as at the Oasis.

By the way, thanks for everyones patience. I have been asking for a lot of information over the last month that now appears so basic.

[QUOTE=Henryv]
...I thow this out - could there be a thread devoted soley to such type of information, e.g., good service by bar name and lady name. I think it would be extremely helpful in such a place as this.
[/QUOTE]

There could be, but you should be careful. I think naming good service by bar name isn't bad. However, if you start naming great gals and where she works, she might start getting so much traffic that she has no time for you. Or worse, some big fish might start supporting her and take her totally out of the scene. If you're going to talk about a girl, make sure you do it *after* you leave and only if you are not going to be back for some time.

Cheers,

F2

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]By thai class do you mean Camfrog Thailand? Doesn;t seem to be anything else

Its 99.9% thai language![/QUOTE]I have just follow the website camfrog.com then downloded. I had the choice for english languague or french I took the french.

Then yes there is only three room one Thailand one asia oneother Thailand but no member. As I got many privat meassage saying they can not find. I check the website again today and can not open it. May be blocked. Anyhow mine is working. There are a average of 250 to 350 members online. May be 60% guys the rest girls and lady boys. Yes they all write in thai but you have to click on the girl then the video open you can send message asking if she speak english. Till now I find out that most of them reply with yes I am speak english little and they can write english.

There are also some farang in it already. So more I can not tell just try to down lod the website.camfrog.com.

Ps they say no naked. And you have to click yes I agree. But there are many farangs naked for the girls.

[QUOTE=AndyBKK]The only rule that I can think of that applies to all bar girls is that there are NO RULES. LOL

Case in point:

- They will tell you that there are "no ladyboys working here" when there are obviously some.

- When ask if they have a boyfriend the sure answer is "no".

- They will neglect to tell you about the 3 other guys that are sending them money every month.

- They will not tell you that you can not own land/house in Thailand.

I am sure there are many others..But when it comes to love, sex, and war there are no rules just remember that much.[/QUOTE]


Yes mr andybkk here you right. May be for the correct word should be guidelines. Here is tit no rules applies only can follow the guide lines and may be pick up some recommendation from ISG members. What works for one is not working for the others. Little bit same as going fis. Hing for policies.

[QUOTE=JCinAsia]Hi,

Stayed in Marriott last year for a few days what a dump! Never seen a 5star so bad please suggest a good hotel for me I prefer 5star and is girl friendly.[/QUOTE]

Try the Federal Hotel on Soi 11

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]You fucking said it so I fucking tried it...and did it![/QUOTE]

I'm so pleased and proud. A lesson to us all - cheaper is better!

[QUOTE=JCinAsia]Hi,

Stayed in Marriott last year for a few days what a dump! Never seen a 5star so bad please suggest a good hotel for me I prefer 5star and is girl friendly.[/QUOTE]Try Centara, their Pattaya Resort is brand new, they have not even had the grand opening yet, but they do have guests and are accepting reservations. Although I don't know if they are girl friendly...but its Pattaya, they would be foolish to not be girl friendly.

[url]www.centarahotelsresorts.com[/url]

DVEight

Combed Beach Road on my most recent trip and came across a true milker! She was a little aged but, as I said in my first trip to Pattaya, the older ones provide the best service. Before i picked up the milker on Beach Road I picked up a younger girl who 1. Refused to show me her id even though I knew she was lying when she said she was 25. She looked more like 16. 2. Upon disrobing I could smell that she probably had a yeast infection 3. After 2 minutes of sex said she was uncomfortable.

Needless to say I put her out and gave her 300 baht.

The milker was the opposite. Friendly, personable, professional and has a 3 month old. And my goodness was she a milker. All she had to do was to shake her breasts and the milk went flying. I video her for atleast ten minutes just dripping into a bowl! Nevertheless FS, pics, video everything. I paid 500 baht and a 200 baht tip and she was happy.

Here is her pic. Look at those nips!

One interesting thing happened on Beach Road. As I was walking surveying the merchandise I passed by what I thought were two European girls perhaps just vacationing in Pattaya. I turned around to look at them as they walked by and they turned around as well. We walked back towards each other and they turned out to be working girls from Uzbekistan. One girl was particularly pretty. She wanted 1k baht. I would have paid it as she was pretty and friendly enough but I was hunting Thai that night.

Uzbek girls can now be found on Beach Road in Pattaya!

Showdown

JChinAisa

Never heard anyone ever complaint about the Marriort but I guess there a first for everything. You might want to give the Hilton a try, it is suppose to be on top of the new Central festival. Many don't even know there is a hotel there! Not sure if it GF?

Cautas J,

If your directions are correct, and you are standing on Soi Buakhao and looking at the entrance of LK Metro, Club Bleu should be on your right and right across from them on the otherside of Soi Buakhao, this place should be Enjoy Massage? When you say full body, people should know that this isn't a Soapie!

LBM

Big Trouble in Thailand 3rd Espisode

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=090GQDat1X8[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOZKK7BFr0[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ_Yxrscmr4[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U2hVHV8zic[/url]

Everytime someone puts one of these Ytube things to watch, I click on to the site. You have a black screen and something spinning in the middle. Then the video starts to come on. It stop and runs, stops and run, stops and run and never runs smoothly. Is there something I'm doing or not doing right? or is it the way it is?

LBM, needs some computer tips!

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]It stop and runs, stops and run, stops and run and never runs smoothly. Is there something I'm doing or not doing right? [/QUOTE]
Nothing much you can do. Simply the connection is too slow.
Even a faster computer won't help.
AFAIK.

Ekspat,

When you mean connection, that's the Internet provider that I'm using here in Thailand?

Thanks LBM

Hi Guys,

Am coming to Pattaya in 10 days and wondered if raid on Devils Den is a 'one-off' or could this be be part of a cyclical process?

Their website left nothing to the imagination, and perhaps that was the problem.

What do you think!

[quote=littlebigman]
when you mean connection, that's the internet provider that i'm using here in thailand?[/quote]
i guess so, yes.
or your chosen inet-package from the provider is too slow.

in malaysia i can choose connections lets say 1, 2 or 4 mbit/s download speed.
the faster the more expensive with this adsl thing or so.

this are all just theoretical speeds, usually it's lower, but should be sufficient for youtube, but if you still have a 512kb or so, it might be too narrow.

afaik, i'm not much into it.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Everytime someone puts one of these Ytube things to watch, I click on to the site. You have a black screen and something spinning in the middle. Then the video starts to come on. It stop and runs, stops and run, stops and run and never runs smoothly. Is there something I'm doing or not doing right? or is it the way it is?

LBM, needs some computer tips![/QUOTE]

Once the clip starts playing, click the play button to pause it, the rest of the clip will load all the way. The clip is fully loaded once the task bar is filled with the red color. Click the play/pause button again once the clip is fully loaded and it will play uninterrupted.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]JChinAisa

Never heard anyone ever complaint about the Marriort but I guess there a first for everything. You might want to give the Hilton a try, it is suppose to be on top of the new Central festival. Many don't even know there is a hotel there! Not sure if it GF?

LBM[/QUOTE]


Central Festival is open, but construction of the hotel above it is not yet complete

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Once the clip starts playing, click the play button to pause it, the rest of the clip will load all the way. The clip is fully loaded once the task bar is filled with the red color. Click the play/pause button again once the clip is fully loaded and it will play uninterrupted.[/QUOTE]

Missing something, There is no play buttom? There is no task bar that is filling with red color?

LBM

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Missing something, There is no play buttom? There is no task bar that is filling with red color?

LBM[/QUOTE]

The play button and task bar is on the bottom of the picture as in this screen shot.

[quote=littlebigman]everytime someone puts one of these ytube things to watch, i click on to the site. you have a black screen and something spinning in the middle. then the video starts to come on. it stop and runs, stops and run, stops and run and never runs smoothly. is there something i'm doing or not doing right? or is it the way it is?

lbm, needs some computer tips![/quote]

your internet connection speed is too slow. stop the sound and let it download without watching it. it might take several minutes. when it's done hit the play button and you will see it all with no interruptions. don't forget to turn the sound on.

i saw an add in bkk for 10mbs at 1.500 baht/month. don't know if it applies to pattaya yet. back home i am getting up to 24mb

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Then the video starts to come on. It stop and runs, stops and run, stops and run and never runs smoothly. Is there something I'm doing or not doing right? or is it the way it is?

LBM, needs some computer tips![/QUOTE]Once the video starts to load click the pause button and let the video load half way, then click the play button.

That way the video will stream better.

Leisure King

[QUOTE=Showdown]Combed Beach Road on my most recent trip and came across a true milker! She was a little aged but, as I said in my first trip to Pattaya, the older ones provide the best service. Before i picked up the milker on Beach Road I picked up a younger girl who 1. Refused to show me her id even though I knew she was lying when she said she was 25. She looked more like 16. 2. Upon disrobing I could smell that she probably had a yeast infection 3. After 2 minutes of sex said she was uncomfortable.

Needless to say I put her out and gave her 300 baht.

The milker was the opposite. Friendly, personable, professional and has a 3 month old. And my goodness was she a milker. All she had to do was to shake her breasts and the milk went flying. I video her for atleast ten minutes just dripping into a bowl! Nevertheless FS, pics, video everything. I paid 500 baht and a 200 baht tip and she was happy.

Here is her pic. Look at those nips!

One interesting thing happened on Beach Road. As I was walking surveying the merchandise I passed by what I thought were two European girls perhaps just vacationing in Pattaya. I turned around to look at them as they walked by and they turned around as well. We walked back towards each other and they turned out to be working girls from Uzbekistan. One girl was particularly pretty. She wanted 1k baht. I would have paid it as she was pretty and friendly enough but I was hunting Thai that night.

Uzbek girls can now be found on Beach Road in Pattaya!

Showdown[/QUOTE]

Great find on Beach Road. I'll have to step up my search to find someone with her specialty.

[QUOTE=JCinAsia]Hi,

Stayed in Marriott last year for a few days what a dump! Never seen a 5star so bad please suggest a good hotel for me I prefer 5star and is girl friendly.[/QUOTE]


I stayed there exactly 3 years ago and it was outstanding. Hard to believe it has gone downhill. I had an oceanfront room with a large balcony. Beautifully appointed and great staff. Used the elevator adjacent to the mall to bring in my ladies. While there was usually staff there, it was never a problem. If it weren't for the economy and my bad investments, I'd certainly stay there again.

[quote=ekspat]i guess so, yes.
or your chosen inet-package from the provider is too slow.

in malaysia i can choose connections lets say 1, 2 or 4 mbit/s download speed.
the faster the more expensive with this adsl thing or so.

this are all just theoretical speeds, usually it's lower, but should be sufficient for youtube, but if you still have a 512kb or so, it might be too narrow.

afaik, i'm not much into it.[/quote]

there is a thai internet speed test if you want to try your connection:

[url]http://speedtest.thaivisa.com/[/url]

it seems if you use your atm card at wu, bringing passport id with you, you get the best forex deal there is. rates are as they are back home plus aout 50 baht to wu. speaking of wu....

there is a german film crew in town doing a documentary on a kraut who lived here for 30 years, running an upscale restaurant in soi boucauw and who probably got the wu bug. he went back to the fatherland for a few days and while back there, his girl friend sold the restaurant and fucked off with some english loser. now the kraut lives rough on the beach.

there are countless stories like this but love besotted fools never learn. they think *****s fuck for something loftier than money. i find that the most amazing thing in amazing thailand. some call it love, others call it low life meeting low life.

the gym goes well and i continue to get solicited by the thai women there. this is not surprising. though not the biggest or bulkiest guy there, i am by far the biggest catch. i have small love handles which, when coupled with my impeccable dress sense and manners, hint at a healthy bank account, something no rice farmer's whoring daughter can resist. all the other guys, both thai and long nose, bring their fuck toys with them to pat them down and rub off the sweat. though rubbing off their own sweat might be too much exerrtion for some of them, others probably have no choice. the fuck toys probably tag along to ensure their pay checks don't stray.


the jews had a big knees up at the king david for their new year but now have it up for sale, perhaps fearing it will go the way of an earlier king david. there are plenty of iranian businesses up that way. i find the iranians easy to deal with. certainly, there are a lot of complaints from 3rd row way, mostly knifings and shooting by the young riff raff who hang out there with their molls.these happen late at night when you should be safely ensconced in your room with your fist up some lbfm's pussy.

some of the internet gestapo attacked me for citing some names. i did change the names in advance. this is because i read the chat buddies thread where one of the established losers here reads the reports, downloads the pics, then looks up the chick on dia and tells her her pic is on this site. the trouble with the internet is the trouble of democracy. it allows francophobes and other losers to shit all over the place. i am not a rep001 man.

lots more could be reported on pattaya but it is the same circus with slightly different but equally low level clowns.

now i gotta go and find me a thai hooker as i want to take a leak. shalom.

A quick question,

Is it me?, or is every Thai woman working Beach Road from Surin?...Strange this keeps happening to me.

[QUOTE=MeatMan]A quick question,

Is it me?, or is every Thai woman working Beach Road from Surin?...Strange this keeps happening to me.[/QUOTE]
It's you. I've met tons from elsewhere,

How is Pattaya during Xmas and NY Eve? I just reserved a flight but wondering what the situation is like there. I just returned and found I liked the low season--there's fewer girls than there was in November, but far, far fewer falang, so more to choose from on the whole. Anyone been there Xmas/NY Eve?

Thanks for info.

[QUOTE=Beagleface]How is Pattaya during Xmas and NY Eve? I just reserved a flight but wondering what the situation is like there. I just returned and found I liked the low season--there's fewer girls than there was in November, but far, far fewer falang, so more to choose from on the whole. Anyone been there Xmas/NY Eve?

Thanks for info.[/QUOTE]Its pretty much in your face at Xmas and New Year, its high season so its to be expected, I also like low season, but the place has a nice christmassy feel, the thais have the place decorated with lights and stuff, its quite nice. I been there for the last 2 New Years, and looks like I'll be there again.

[QUOTE=Leisure King]Once the video starts to load click the pause button and let the video load half way, then click the play button.

That way the video will stream better.

Leisure King[/QUOTE]Thanks for tips.

How to download video and kept in PC?

Thats about what I figured. Pattaya is unreal, tho I still argue with myself about which is better, Pattaya or the FKK clubs. But I keep going back to Pattaya so I guess I like it better.

[QUOTE=Diceman]Its pretty much in your face at Xmas and New Year, its high season so its to be expected, I also like low season, but the place has a nice christmassy feel, the thais have the place decorated with lights and stuff, its quite nice. I been there for the last 2 New Years, and looks like I'll be there again.[/QUOTE]

Last night I pulled into Pattaya about 10pm. By 12:30am I had enjoyed two ovenfresh young girls in Soi 6. Both claimed to be in town for less than a month. The second one was a bit drunk and wanton, showing me pornographic clips on her cellphone (and copying them for her mamasan via bluetooth) and after intercourse she wanked me hard again and got me off while I was gently opening her slick pussy. But she was nonetheless shy coming out of the shower and before intercourse. After we were done she was tired and withdrew to the room next door, where 5 or 6 girls in bright pink green or yellow fluff were curled up on mattresses on the floor, nestling for the night.

Both girls opened with a 1000b asking price and stuck there for a while before accepting 700. The first one kept trying to up the price in the room too .. I offered 1000 for 2 rounds, and she countered with 1200, which is not too bad. In between them I passed on another skinny girl who became very passive when I didn't jump at her offer of 1000. In that bar the girl who brought my drink asked for a tip on delivery of the drink. Repeatedly.

The drunk girl also downed her drink in about 2 minutes and demanded another. But she got in line very nicely when I made it clear that drinks are not for the asking, but for services rendered.

It appears that some idiots are encouraging contemptuous behaviour and price inflation. I would suggest they go frequent the bars with euro gals in Walking Street and other designated rip-off joints, that are more geared to a high-cost/low-return waste of time.

Im leaving Pattaya after five days here. Had a great time - last time, but now Im kind of disapointed. Every night I have to search through tons of ugly old navybase-hookers. Today I took a walk on the beachroad but I saw only one nice girl there, but she was just getting a farang. I hope for a better life in Bkk.

A bad AttitudePB

[QUOTE=Dan606]Thanks for tips.

How to download video and kept in PC?[/QUOTE]With Safari on a Mac, while you are watching the YouTube video, go to the Window Menu and choose Activity. This will open a window showing all the different files being (or already) downloaded for each browser window you have open along with the file size. Find the part corresponding to your YouTube window. The video file will be in the MB size range while everything else is probably KB. Hold down the Option button and double click on the file name. It will then be downloaded. You can close the YouTube window at this point and the download will continue. It will probably be a Flash Video (,flv). I play them back with software called VLC.

There are probably similar methods and software for PCs.

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]
It appears that some idiots are encouraging contemptuous behaviour and price inflation. I would suggest they go frequent the bars with euro gals in Walking Street and other designated rip-off joints, that are more geared to a high-cost/low-return waste of time.[/QUOTE]
Yep, the monger makeup in Pattaya is much different than in the past. The frugal retirees on pensions have been pushed out and the new breed of fools are here raising the bar. They have condos, cars, and money to dump in the malls. Also, TAT has been trying to bring in a richer class of people who don't know real pricing. Because of this, the girls have become very spoiled.

If you're smart and you think with your head you can still get away with paying below market price, especially now in low season. It is, however, a lot more work then before to get bargain prices. It can be had, but more effort and negotiating is required. Don't give up, and stick to your guns!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]
If you're smart and you think with your head you can still get away with paying below market price, especially now in low season. It is, however, a lot more work then before to get bargain prices. It can be had, but more effort and negotiating is required. Don't give up, and stick to your guns![/QUOTE]

Just got in a few days ago and have paid twice for LT at 2k each time. Last time I was here was 2005 and going price was 1500. Service was very good for that 2k, very enthusiastic and 3 shots per night. I just figured 2k is now the norm.

I did however encounter some bad attitude when my Club Lucifer spinner was too drunk to perform for the negotiated 1500 LT. After some pretty fierce fighting in my room with security as a ref, I gave up 1ooo to get rid of her. Street girls are just a pain in the ass. Spkg of street, where is famous Na?

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Just got in a few days ago and have paid twice for LT at 2k each time.[/QUOTE]

I think that's the opening bid at gogos generally. In soi 6 I've been offered 1000 LT without bargaining on quite a few occasions (that's excluding about 400 BF), but this was shortly before closing time of course. A very nice waitress at one of the gogos opposite Kitten Club went with me one night and the price was "up to me", but not less than 1000. Beer bars should also be well below 2k.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]I did however encounter some bad attitude when my Club Lucifer spinner was too drunk to perform for the negotiated 1500 LT.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's a bit of pot luck .. if you choose to take a drunk girl, thinking she'll be nice & wild, but then turns out to be too drunk .. you can't give her *all* the blame .. ;-) Let her sleep it off and get your money's worth in the morning ;-)

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Don't give up, and stick to your guns![/QUOTE]

Yes! The weekend turned out splendidly. A non-bar-girl overnight for 2k (she was taking me around on her motorbike, bought snacks for us, very lovely), and two more in Soi 6 for 700 each. This time no hint of bargaining or rushing. It seems like there's an influx of girls from Korat now.

Oh, another first this weekend -- as I was leaving a gogo on Soi Diamond, an indian guy was refused entry ("members only! members only!"). He was looking a mite unkempt and had obviously had a few drinks, but I don't know whether that was the deciding factor.

A sure sign that low season is finally nearing its end was Happy a-go-go last night jumping with action, both on and off the stage. Bucket after bucket of ping pong balls were raining down upon the girls from one side of the bar, while huge flurries of 20 baht notes were fluttering to the floor on the other. One guy was buying 1000 baht buckets of balls, one after the other, and emptying them all at once in all directions. Another group was exchanging wads of 1000 baht notes for stacks of 20’s, which were tossed immediately into the air.

As you can imagine, the scene was pandemonium, the girls giddy with greed. Dancers, show girls, and hostesses alike were stampeding back and forth across the bar in waves, trampling over patrons and each other for their share of the bonanza. All standards of dignity, decency, and decorum were cast aside as the lovely ladies scrambled around hands and knees on the floor like a pack of feral dogs, diving under tables and reaching between customers’ legs for the treasure, their naked tits and asses jiggling about in glorious view for the crowd.

Animals – all of us -- animals! :D

[QUOTE=Daddy07]

Animals – all of us -- animals! :D[/QUOTE]

I don't think animals are as stupid as those spendthrifts.

[QUOTE=Opebo]I don't think animals are as stupid as those spendthrifts.[/QUOTE]
Yes, no question about it, some animals are stupider than others, however, the zoo is a very entertaining place to be sometimes, as long as I am not the one doing all the excessive spending. ;)

[QUOTE=Daddy07]A sure sign that low season is finally nearing its end was Happy a-go-go last night jumping with action[/QUOTE]
This year has been one of the worst(quality of meat and bargains) and shortest lasting low seasons I've seen in years.

Actual information from today: The "yellow" Ayutthaya-Bank in South Pattaya road near friendship supermarket still DON'T charge the 150 Bath fee !

[QUOTE=Amjeck]. . . shortest lasting low seasons I've seen in years.[/QUOTE]It's as if there was no low season at all this year. August seemed a bit quiet, but things bounced back this month, just the time they usually quiet down. One theory was that a lot of budget travelers waited till then to take advantage of low air fares.

For better or worse, Pattaya is becoming a year-round destination . . . .

Of course, what you forget about the ATM fee is that with the lower rate that Ayutaya Bank gives (no 150B fee), you would be better off for withdrawals of say 20,000 B to PAY the 150B

I just go into Siam Commercial and make a withdrawal from the debit card with the passport as ID (no 150B fee, either)

Doing an apples to apples comparison - I got 10,000B from Ayu Bank in August for $306.75 (or 20,000 for 613.50) The next day I went to a Bangkok bank ATM and got 20,000 for 598.60 INCLUDING THE 150B withdrawal fee) Net ADDITIONAL COST to use Ayu Bank's ATM was $7.50 for the 10,000 I withdrew.

[QUOTE=Dinghy]

Doing an apples to apples comparison - I got 10,000B from Ayu Bank in August for $306.75 (or 20,000 for 613.50) The next day I went to a Bangkok bank ATM and got 20,000 for 598.60 INCLUDING THE 150B withdrawal fee) Net ADDITIONAL COST to use Ayu Bank's ATM was $7.50 for the 10,000 I withdrew.[/QUOTE]


That is NOT an apples to apples comparison. More arseholes to bollocks!

You withdrew money on 2 different days. Everyone knows the exchange rate is never the same the next day, and invariably changes many times during just one day!

This week's episode:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYasZnn8oHI[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPecqdQUUlY[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSHaKgEXz1c[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCfgWbEszMU[/url]

Here's a brief account of my short trip to Pattaya. Since I had only 4 nights to spend in Pattaya, I wanted to make best use of my time and for the same reason, I decided to stick to the bars that were known not to discriminate against us Indians.

Day 1

I arrived at Pattaya at around 2 pm and checked in at The Pattaya Bay Resort. After some rest I headed out to Beach road/walking street to explore the area. At around 7:30pm I head to Secrets. I enter and the only vacant place I could find was near the billing counter. I ordered a drink for myself and a couple of minutes later, the mamasam Joy comes to me and asks me if I'd like some company? Well, how could I refuse? She waves to this lady sitting a few tables across who walks over. Her name is Nok and she is an evening hostess. I buy a drink for her and after some chit chat, she asks me if I'd like to play some board games. Well, why notand I made a deal to her. She gets a drink if she wins and I get a kiss if I won. After several turns nobody was winning and Joy joins the fun. This time the deal with Joy is the loser buys the winner a drink. Still after several turns nobody is winning and it was getting boring so I order the drinks for everyone anyways. Same story after few more turns and I order yet another round of drinks for everyone. Couple of more drinks later I finally won and sure enough, I get a lovely kiss and Joy buys me a shot of tequila. I was pretty comfortable with Nok by this time as asked her if she would like to go to my hotel long time. She nodded and I paid the barfine. Total damage about 1800 baht. We were both hungry and we picked up some street side bbq on our way. We had the bbq at my hotel and watched some tv arms in arms on the bed. Nok turned the tv off and what followed was a great session. She does have a way with her mouth smile. Gif courtesy of the "chocolate blow job" at Secrets I suppose (more on that later). Anyways, I was completely exhausted after the session and we just lay on the bed. At around 2am Nok gets a call on her phone. It was her friend. Nok asked me if she could go dance with her friend who also works at Secrets but had not been barfined that day. I thought this must me the long time. Short time bait and switch routine at play here. I wasn't particularly happy, but I had no intentions of keeping a lady against her wish and so told her she could go if she wanted to. She gave me a hug and started to dress. I asked her about money but she declined saying she would collect it when she returns. Hearing this, my angst completely disappeared and now I was totally ok with her going out. She had done her job in making me happy to the point I was completely exhausted and if she wanted to have some fun so be it! Anyways, she fumbles a bit in her purse and said maybe she would take some money after all. AHA! So this is the twist in the story and maybe It was the bait and switch after all. I give her money and she headed to the door.

"Arent you going to take your stuff with you? "

"No, I'll take it later after I come back"

Now I was really embarrassed for misjudging her twice. Sad. Gif Anyways, off she goes and I go to sleep. Sure enough, she returned after a couple of hours, all charged up and excited. What followed was a mind blowing session. I was so glad her friend made the call! We woke up at around noon, had lunch at McDonalds and we headed separate ways.

What a night it had been!

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Well bum - all I can say is that the actual RATE of exchange was stated on the Ayu Bank kiosk before the withdrawal. I have my bank statement to verify the withdrawal charge against and actually took out money TWICE from Ayu Bnak with the identical amount charged against the account only varying in the "cents".

IT CERTAINLY WAS NOT ABOUT $12 DIFFERENCE (remember - I took out half as much and multiplied the amount of the withdrawal X2). I got the international exchange rate from the "other" banks - NOT THE INFLATED RATE FROM AYU BANK (which cost about 0.5% MORE) Believe it or not as you wish. ATM withdrawals from Ayu Bank COST MORE THAN THE FEE FROM OTHERS for amounts exceeding about 5000B (I don't care to bother doing the math right now)

AYUTTHAYA BANK CHARGES MORE THAN THE OTHERS AND YOU PAY FOR THE "SERVICE" IN THE INFLATED RATE EVEN IF THERE IS NO "ATM FEE".

Like I said before - take your card and go into the bank during normal working hours and avoid the withdrawal fee entirely It's YOUR money and you can waste it if you so desire. It makes no difference to ME whatsoever.

The alternative is to make withdrawals of the maximum amount possible (20,000B is the max I've seen allowed) and minimize the effect of the fee.

A friend in BKK just told me that she saw today in the news that two Indian guys in Pattaya took a ladyboy with them. The ladyboy drugged them and took everything. One is dead and the other is in ICU. Just found the link:
[url]www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000010526[/url]

[QUOTE=Run Mann]This week's episode:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYasZnn8oHI[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPecqdQUUlY[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSHaKgEXz1c[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCfgWbEszMU[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks. Really appreciate it.

day 2. scene 1 after a quick afternoon nap, i headed towards the beach road at around 4pm. i saw a lady at the beach who had a super sexy body. nice boobs, nice ass, flat stomach wearing body hugging t-shirt and jeans and all wet! every now and then she would go into the sea, bring back some sea shells and collect them in a bottle. the back of her t-shirt had a slogan on environmental conservation and the url of some such website. i assumed she was an environmentalist/professional doing her work collecting samples or whatever. i thought she could be a great fuck but figured it wouldn't be prudent to ask if she'd like to go to my hotel. nevertheless, i sat on a bench admiring her for a while before moving on.

as i walked, i was approached by a lady who wanted me to try out some [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url]. since i didn't have anything better to do, i agreed. 500 bahts for 1 round of para sailing, 800 for 2 and 3 rounds for 1000 bahts. so off we go and i returned after about an hour. i started walking towards walking street. however, the lady whom i had seen earlier and referred in the paragraph above, called me out and waved at me to come over which i did, and she offered me some fish and a can of beer that was open already. being cautious so as not to get drugged, i politely declined saying it wasn't my preferred brand. however, so as not to offend her generosity, i made a counter offer and suggested i buy her a beer if its ok with her. she said she'd like some cigarettes too. well, ok. i got the drinks and we started sipping and enjoying the cool breeze. turns out she had already been drinking thai whiskey and it was showing as she kept repeating the same stuff during our conversation. after some chit chat, she raised her t-shirt revealing the under side of her breasts noting how fair she was but the constant sea water and the sun had made her hands and legs so tan. by this time a guy also joined us, whom she described as being her brother. soon she whispered in my ears that she'd like to go to my hotel for 700 bahts. as much as i'd like to fuck her, drunk girls are off limits for me. i tried to explain to her but she kept insisting. i gave an excuse and made a quick exit. so sad.

day 2. scene 2

arrived at secrets at around 8pm. no sooner had i taken a seat, a pair of hands started massaging my shoulder. felt very relaxing. it was nok. she asked if she could sit with me. i told her that i liked her and she needn't ask for permission to sit with me. she said she knew that, but she'd ask nevertheless as she didn't want to embarrass me if i wanted to change the lady for the night. i told her i wanted to change the lady but i'd still like her company. she re-assured me that it was totally with her if i chose to change the lady as i was on a holiday. what a girl! now she is one fine lady, mind you, who knows how to take care of her customers. in fact the first thing she did on entering my room the previous night was to tidy it up. she also threw away the old ice that had accumulated in the freezer and de-frosted the refrigerator. i really had no reason not to choose her again, its just that i wanted to try something different. i ordered a couple of drinks for us. she then grabbed my hand and took me on a tour of secrets introducing me to her friends. she also suggested i could let her know if i see someone i liked and that she would talk to her to go out with me. however, nobody caught my fancy and we returned to my table. a little later, i saw a lady sitting on the opposite side of the bar. she had an average face, but i was drawn to her by her smile. i told nok about it and she waved at this lady to come over. she came over. her name is chow and she is tiny. and i mean really tiny. the two ladies had a quick chat in thai and soon this girl put her arms around me and i bought a drink for her. after a couple of minutes, nok left us alone. we played some board games and i asked her if she'd like to go out with me. she agreed. i called nok over, and the three of us had a drink before i barfined chow. total damage about 2000 baht

we were both hungry, and chow suggested we go to the beer garden. she ordered some thai food for us. i don't know what it was, but basically it was jasmine rice with a chicked/mushroom curry prepared in coconut milk and some chicken wings. delicious. it was raining cats and dogs on this day and i had to pay a huge premium for the baht bus to drop us off at my hotel. we enter my room, and the first thing she noticed was the empty ice tray nok had cleaned up last night. she looked at me with raised eyebrows and asked me if i was having fun with ice and the ladies. you know like they do in porn movies. well, i wasn't, but now she was giving me ideas.

after shower, we end up on the bed. i wanted to be a bit adventurous and asked her if she'd like a whole body orgasm. she didn't know what it meant, partly due to my very limited thai vocabulary. so i told her, "if you no like, i stop." she understood that part and agreed i go ahead. so i started working my fingers and she started moaning. soon the moans started getting louder and she was virtually screaming. now, the walls at the pbr are quiet thin and the sounds can easily be heard across rooms. so i tried controlling to noise by putting my other hand on her mouth, but she bit me so hard, i had to let go a scream that was even louder! (sorry dear neighbors)

lesson learnt: for acoustic control, use a pillow.

anyway, she came. i asked her if she liked it? [i]yes! [/i] want some more? [i][b]yes! [/b][/i] so i did my magic again and she came again. she hugged me so tight i almost chocked. soon she let me loose, and started laughing hysterically covering her face with the pillow and then with her hands when i took the pillow off. this certainly looked like a sign of good things to come. i went to the bathroom to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and get the accessories. i returned and she was all curled up facing away. i put my hands on her shoulders and she said "no." "cannot." "i cum too much! "

what the.? : blink:

we both went to sleep. she woke me up at around 6am and asked me if i'd like some boom boom. well, of course i do. she goes to the bathroom and returns saying she cannot as her pussy is no good. she repeated the same adding she was sorry. she saw the disappointment on my face, so she said i could boom boom if i wanted to. i really wanted to, but at the same time, i didn't want to make her miserable if her pussy was indeed no good. i gave her the benefit of doubt and let it pass. she thanked me for that, dressed up and left after some time.

in short, i spent a whole day in pattaya without getting laid. can you imagine that?

oh well. aat least somebody had fun!

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[QUOTE=Serial Kisser]
She agreed. I called Nok over, and the three of us had a drink before I barfined Chow. Total damage about 2000 Baht

[/QUOTE]
Was that for ST or LT?

[QUOTE=Serial Kisser]
After shower, we end up on the bed. I wanted to be a bit adventurous and asked her if she'd like a whole body orgasm. She didn't know what it meant, partly due to my very limited Thai vocabulary. So I told her,

[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you would care to enlighten us too.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Dinghy] I got the international exchange rate from the "other" banks - NOT THE INFLATED RATE FROM AYU BANK (which cost about 0.5% MORE) Believe it or not as you wish. ATM withdrawals from Ayu Bank COST MORE THAN THE FEE FROM OTHERS for amounts exceeding about 5000B (I don't care to bother doing the math right now)

AYUTTHAYA BANK CHARGES MORE THAN THE OTHERS AND YOU PAY FOR THE "SERVICE" IN THE INFLATED RATE EVEN IF THERE IS NO "ATM FEE".

[/QUOTE]

Whilst this may or may not be so, your testing over 2 days proves nothing.

The point I was making is that exchange rates fluctuate every hour or so, and maybe just maybe the day you used BAY the exchange rate may have been lower than that you obtained from the "other bank"

[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Perhaps you would care to enlighten us too.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Here's the short version - [url]http://hotfile.com/dl/7778594/19fc8ad/Technique_How_To_Give_Your_Woman_An_Orgasm_excluzive_.avi.html[/url]

Here's the full version - [url]http://hotfile.com/dl/4001850/d2ae064/Make_Your_Girlfriend_Orgasm_Full_Training.avi.html[/url]

A word of caution though - use this technique sparingly - especially if the girl has not experienced it before, or you'll end up without a pussy like I did.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Was that for ST or LT?[/QUOTE]It was LT - note that the 2000 Baht expense was for the drinks+bar-fine. I paid the LT price to the lady separately.

actually bum I went back and checked the bank statement last PM again - 2 withdrawals from BAY, 10 days apart. 306.42 and 612.97 (10k and 20k respectively) In the middle (5 days from either end) were 2 identical ones from BKK-B and Siam-Commercial for 598.75 (including the 150B charge)

Remember - I'sY OUR MONEY and frankly I don't care WHAT ATM or method you use for a withdrawal. BAY just charges effectively about $12 ADDITIONAL due to the bad exchange rate.

The withdrawals were July/August and the rate has dropped a bit now

I didn't think I'd be back in Pattaya so soon, considering I was here just last May. But I figured I'd visit this place again as a bit of a last hurrah in case my current employer opts not to renew my work contract.

Arrived past 11pm, but was able to make it to Soi 6 for a blow at My Friend U Bar. The working girl mentioned there's now plainclothes cops patroling the area, so blowjobs in the bar are no longer being done. We instead went upstairs. I'm not sure if her claim about the police is indeed legit - I went to another bar several doors down and the staff there wasn't aware of any such police activity.

In any case, I don't think I overpaid for the service at My Friend U Bar; went there twice since my arrival, paying 900+ for late evening and 800+ during happy hour, both times with beer included.

Checked out Yellow House again to see if I can get service from the elusive Chompoo. Didn't see her among the batch of attendants waiting by the entrance yesterday, but will try again later. Hopefully I can get her, even if I'll be a first-time customer of hers.

hi you all:

comming to pattaya in dec and need your experts help.

been looking in this forum and have find a lot of good reports and info (thank all)

but what i would like to know is. are soi 6 the best place to go for a good blowjob?

not a place like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], more like the star of light in bkk where the girls provide a bit more.

what i undersand, some good places are. my friend you bar.

full moon and red point bar can be good.

maby someone have a better place to recomend?

goteborg

[quote=goteborg]hi you all:

comming to pattaya in dec and need your experts help.

been looking in this forum and have find a lot of good reports and info (thank all)

but what i would like to know is. are soi 6 the best place to go for a good blowjob?

not a place like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], more like the star of light in bkk where the girls provide a bit more.

what i undersand, some good places are. my friend you bar.

full moon and red point bar can be good.

maby someone have a better place to recomend?

goteborg[/quote]for me the red point bar is the best bar in soi6.

i have many friends there, good blowjob, good fuck, good take care.

Dodgy Fellow,

This isn't criticism, but the standard rate is a flat 700 baht for a girl on Soi 6, but of course many will feel you out and see if they can get more, that is just standard anywhere.

As for Yellow house, Chompu has been gone for a month and just return this week and she as always is busy busy busy! She has changed her personal number again not sure why and has gone back to using Tammy!

LBM

Day 3

Considering the less than ideal experience the previous day, I decided to hit the beach road at around 2:30pm looking for some freelancers. I walked a fair stretch of the road up and down a couple of times. I could see a few girls to my liking, but none of them would make eye contact. I've experienced this kind from girls of behavior before. Apparently, many of my countrymen prefer chubbier women and the girls seem to know this. Unfortunately, they aren't exactly "my type"; so while I get plenty of attention from chubbier women, I have to work extra hard to get the attention of the other women. After about 2 hours of wandering, I couldn't find anything and decided to take help of a friend who was traveling with me. He had picked up a freelancer the previous day, and had her number. I called her up (her name is Bee) and she promised to be at my hotel at 5:30. She didn't turn up until 7:15. This royally screwed up my plans to meet another board member (on another forum) at 8:30pm (sorry Dicey). The session with Bee went just about alright, as I was too eager to get my load off. It was all over by about 9:15.

I took a hurried taxi, and reached Soi 7 to meet the fellow board member. We hit a bar and played a couple of games of pool before moving on to Walking street. We hit a bar on Soi 14 (incidentally right besides Secrets) where Dicey picked up a girl that he (probably) knew from before. We had some drinks and moved on to Secrets. Needless to say, Nok and Chow were around me in no time. We ordered some drinks, and Chow took my around to check out the girls at Secrets. Even though I liked what I saw, I choose not to experiment and decided to bar fine Nok again. We left after a few drinks. We picked up some food on our way to the hotel. Nok also mentioned to me that she really likes Tequila. Fortunately, I had a bottle full at my hotel which I had picked up at the airport duty free. We had the tequila & food and watched tv for a bit. Off to the bed and a first class blow job followed by a great session. We go to sleep and I was secretly hoping her friend was call her again. Unfortunately, no such luck this time. Nok woke up "early in the morning" at 10am and we had yet another fine session. She was hungry and I offered her to have breakfast at my hotel, but she preferred to have spicy papaya salad with her friend. She offered to take me along, but I wanted some more sleep.

She took a shower and was getting dressed. I asked her how come she doesn't have a picture of herself on the Secrets website. She said she did. Now, I am not particularly good at matching photos with people in real life, but I was pretty sure I hadn't seen her picture and I told her so. She gave me a very naughty smile in the mirror (she was still getting dressed) and said perhaps I wasn't looking hard enough. She then, pulled her skirt up revealing her ass and gave it a shake quipping that somebody had uploaded her picture of her ass and perhaps I could match!

Funny girl!

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[QUOTE=Christian G]For me the Red Point Bar is the best bar in soi6.[/QUOTE]Agreed, maybe consistently the best bar on the street over the past five or six years. The girls tend to be very professional, in both good and bad senses. The current selection seems to be a little off form, but it's still well above the soi average.

No recommendations are really needed on Soi 6 because all the wares are out on display. You just cruise the street till you see something you like. Doesn't matter what bar it is if you like the girl.

Just got back today from a trip to LOS which included 9 days in Pattaya.

I arrived in the airport on the Air China flight from Amsterdam at 6.30am on 9th Sept. Bleary eyed I disembarked from the aircraft into the already humid atmosphere of the airbridge. My stiff legs reluctant to tackle the long walk down to passport control. I force myself to avoid the travelators and aim to be first from the flight to the already crowded booths. This is a ritual I use to get my lower limbs active after hours of numbness. After passing passport control I change €50 to pay for the taxi and incidentals, knowing that the best exchange rates are usuallly to be found in the “green” exchange booths in Pattaya. I collect my bag and head out into the arrival area. I had booked Mr Dream to collect me and take me to Pattaya. I was pleasantly surprised at the little package that was waiting to meet me. She was a perfect example of a delicate Thai orchid and I struggled to contain a lustfull lear as she respectfull wais to me when I identified myself. It left me wondering is there anything else on the menu other than a ride to Pattaya. What does “Dream transport” mean in a Thai context? She gently takes my willing arm and guides me to the exit where we emerge into the already steamy sultry heat of the Bangkok morning. I dismiss any notions of seducing this little Thai flower as being over optimistic for a 46 year old farang like me. I compensate my ego my convincing myself that we had both enjoyed a polite (sometimes flirtitious) conversation on the way down to sin city.

We arrived at about 10.30am to View Talay 6 which is located between Soi 8 and Soi 9, a good base to afford easy access to any of the fleshpots I hope to submerge myself into in the coming days. It is a studio apartment which is managed by [url]www.dancewatchers.com[/url]. I had stayed in Dancewatcher's apartments before in Jomtien and the standard was very good. This studio on the 18th floor was no exception to this. They were still building that shopping centre next door and this was to cause a lot of problems with noise during my stay. It is no fun going to bed at 5am to be woken at 7 with construction noise going at full blast. Be careful any of you mongers thinking of taking an apartment on the north side of this building.

Anyhow I dumped bag had a quick shower and a bite to eat then headed to Soi 6 at about 2pm. I had a couple of beers in the corner bar at second road before running the gauntlet. After reading other reports on this board I had my little heart set on a threesome whenever I might get the opportunity. When I had enough Dutch courage built up I gritted my teeth and headed down the Soi towards beach road. With the sun beating sown hard on my back and my nostrils filled with the smell from sewer vents and babbequed bugs I subjected myself to the cacophony of calls from the business minded ladies of the street. I had only gone past a couple of bars when my head was turned by a little cracker outside a bar on the right (sorry, I forget the name of it). I went in and she followed me. I bought her a drink while making the usual small talk. She had only been working 3 weeks (she said!). When I broached the delicate subject of a threesome she was shocked and said she had never done it before. I should have taken this as a bad omen for a Soi 6 girl but my little head decided to proceed with her alone and what followed was a fairly mechanical unremarkable shag. I felt a little dissappointed about it when leaving but this was my first day and I had another 7 to go.

That evening I headed down to FLB Bar with the intention of hooking up with Bam and Nong as I had read a report on here about the great threesome another monger had with these ladies. I had met Bam before on a previous visit when she worked in Gamebird but I was not in a position to barfine her at that time. I did lust after her though! So you can imagine my delight when I walked into FLB and she was sitting immediatly inside the door on the left and greeted me with a warm smile and hello. I returned the greeting and asked her if she was alone, she said she was and asked if I wanted her to join me, would a bear shit in the woods?

We had a couple of drinks with her all the time asking me to buy drinks for any passer by who stopped to talk. I was getting a bit fed up of this so I decided to move the show to another bar, where she might not know everyone! We had a drink outside somewhere and then she wanted to go to Lucifers. Not my thing but I didn't want to spoil what might be a good night. Fuck me if she didn't know half the clientele in Lucifers also. This was turning out to be an expensive night! I eventually brought her home and gave her one with a follow up next morning.

She is good craic to talk to and she told me that she was in love with a ladyboy who used to work at Game Bird with her. I saw this as an “in” to bring up the subject of a threesome with her and Nong. She smiled and said she would like to arrange it....Game on!

I arranged to meet her at 9.00 in FLB, I gave her enough for her BF so she could turn up late (she usually starts at 7). We meet, then another hour or two pumping me for drinks ensued. Nong was busy talking to another customer so things weren't looking good. Bam and I left and had a beer in the bar next door. After a while Bam said she would go back and see if Nong was free. I was happy about that as it showed a bit of enthusiasm on her part which got me horny! Nong was free!!! I paid her BF and we decided to go play pool across the street. This is where the wheels started to come off. Bam spent the whole time going from bar to bar talking to her friends while I played pool with Nong. She came back occasionally but only to say she was off again. At about 1.30am she came back and asked can we go to Marine. I noticed an exchange of nods between Bam and a bloke at another bar. At Marine she started sneering at the idea of a threesome and said I should go with Nong only. This went on for a while and eventually I decided to leave. Nong was nice and said she really wanted to come with me so I brought her back for what turned out to be a routine shag. The night was a bit of a dissappointment and Bam's conduct was unbecoming of a *****!

Day 3 started out with me making a mental committment not to go back near the ladies of FLB. I bought Nong breakfast and we departed with her asking if I would be in the bar later that evening, I said yes because that was the easiest thing to say, but I had no intention of going back. I was feeling terrible horny for some reason so I decided to go for a oiley. I went down Soi Post office and this bubbly little thing caught my eye. In I go and strip bollock naked lying down on my back to await her return. She comes in looks at the goods and starts the rubs. After about an hour skirting about the main article I can't stand it any longer and start to make a move on her. I suggest we go back to my room, shes game so off we go on her little minny mouse scooter and we shag like rabbits for a couple of hours. To quote Roddy Doyle she was “a great little ride” and this rub and fuck session was to be a regular feature of my day from here on in.

That evening I decided to stick to Sois 7 & 8 to see if I could make that majic threesome happen. I was jumping from bar to bar and not really getting anywhere. I eventually went into a bar on a street joining soi 7 and 8. I had a couple of beers and a girl from “Funny Girl” bar next door caught my eye. I went over and bought her a drink and we played a couple of games of pool. It was very late and I asked if she wanted to come with me. Fuck me if she didn't go on to explain what exactly “Funny Girl” meant! I felt a right plonker and on reinspection I wondered how come I was fooled so easily. That big bollocks bulging from her ski pants should have made me wary....haha.

I bid my farewells and decided to jump on the baht bus to Walking St. There was a good looking girl on the bus and I started chatting to her. She said she was going to Marine, I said I was going to Lucifers and asked if she wanted to come with me. Off we go to Lucifers. We stayed there for about 30 minutes and I told her I needed sex, she laughed and took my arm. Off we went to begin a realtionship that was to be the focal point of my trip.

May was 21 years old and she told me she worked in Super Girl agogo. That's beside Super Baby and a few others in a complex on the left side as you walk down Walking St. She didn't speak much english but for some reason that didn't seem to be a barrier between us. She told me that she was not working that long, and while I've been told this before, I believe May. She had a great personality and her facial expressions, smiles and gestures and attitude constantly amused me.

When we got back to the condo on the first night we were having a drink on the balcony and I was messing about trying to tiddle (chickatee) her. I wanted to move on to stage 2 so I told her I was going to have a shower. I was stripping off in the bathroom when she walked in with a smile and announced “want to see you brother”. When I managed to stop laughing I obliged but couldn't help but notice how shy she was in stripping off herself. I took plenty of time with her and she relaxed. She was new to the scene and was not confident that she could “satisfy” me. This became obvious over the next couple of days. She constantly asked “am I good lady for you?”. We boom boomed that night and again twice in the morning. She was brillant in her enthusiasm and I was under pressure to keep her sexed up!

I told her about my threesome desires sometime about 9pm on our second night. I kid you not when I say we probably fucked about 8 times that day, she was insatiable and I was knackered! We only popped up for air and a bite to eat twice during the day but it was straight back to action. She would say “we eat but I hoony, we back loom and boom boom”. She called someone from the bed and was chatting in Thai, then she asked me to say hello. Thinking it was a frined of hers I took the phone and said hello, May was shouting “me finish 4 time, me hoony”....I was laughing and so was the person on the phone. When the phone call was over she told me it was her mother...fuck! But her mother lived in Hong Kong and was sending her money, she showed me a bank slip and she had 50k baht in there. Still she said “me not good you”, she was new and unsure of herself.

Next day she had to go back to her room. She insisted I go with her, I think after the threesome talk she was worried I might stray. I go back and she brings me to a friend's room. There both talking in Thai and I am admiring the decor (not) when May reaches over and lifts my shirt to show my white skin (I don't tan). I think the conversation progresses because May started unbuckling my pants...I am laughing at her obvious assumption of my compliance. But I thought this might lead to that allusive threesome so I lit it proceed. When she had her hand on my dick I took it out and brought it to her mouth. May took it in and I started kissing her friend. After that May insisted that I fuck her friend while she watched...well, nearly 3some!

May was great company and was always ready for a good fuck. The words “me hooeny” were whispered into my ear on countless occasions. One time we were lying in the bed, me relaxing in post coital bliss , she was on the phone. She hands it to me and says “say hello”. Thinking it was one of her friends somewhere I started talking and eventually told the girl on the other end that I was after fucking May and asked if she wanted to be fucked she should come over. Both May and the girl on the phone were laughing. May was saying “me finish 4 time” into the phone. After the call I asked May who it was and she said it was her mother calling from Hong Kong! WTF....I didn't believe it but May insisted it was. She said her mother was sending her some money and she wanted to go and see if it arrived. We went to the Festival shopping mall, I got something to eat, she went off to the bank and comes back and showed me a slip with a balance of 75,000 baht. Go figure that.

She was constantly asking me if she was good for me. This coupled with her curiosity about other women's performance made me think that perhaps she was only new to the game. On my second day with her I introduced her to my friend from the massage parlor and she gave us both a massage then I shagged her with May watching. That night she wanted look at a go go bars. I didn't mind bringing her, to be honest I get a kick from being with a girl in those bars. We went to a couple which seemed fairly tame, then we went to Anglewitch where she really enjoyed the show. I wanted to up the ante slightly so I brought her to that place sink or swim owns, (can't remember the name of it now). The girls were coming up to me and I was pawing at them and looking for a reaction from May. While groping one of them I asked May did she think I should take the girl home and fuck her. “Up to you”, but do you want to? “yes”. I pay the bar fine and we are gone. The two girls seemed to be getting along just fine, they were chatting away in Thai. When we got to the loom, I gave the two of them a drink and started fooling about. Then May said she was going to shop. Slightly pissed off I asked her what she wanted in the shop. She said she was going to get KY gel so she could watch me fuck the go go girl in the ass! Only in Pattaya. When she came back I done the deed but May was not joining in, only watching. I stopped shagging the gogo girl, went over to May and started on her, I then encouraged the gogo girl to join in, which proved easier than getting May to do it. Anyhow a good time was had by all and after about 3 hours I paid the gogo girl off and went to bed, May was still “hooney”.

The following day May's friends paid a visit so it was time for me to cut her loose, I don't play when the pitch is flooded. While the sex was great I was getting that “boxed in” feeling and I didn't like it. I made a promise to call her later in the week knowing that it wasn't going to happen.

I paid a visit to the Devil's Den today, I won't elaborate on that, it is well documented on these pages and the service levels are still exceptional. Dirty nasty filthy fantastic sex and then some.

That evening I decided to cruse the bars on Soi 7 and 8 again. I like to play a few games of pool or bar games with the girls while flirting and messing about. I had visited a number of bars when I entered the last bar complex on the left on Soi 7 (as you face beach road). There was an older girl there and something about her attracted me (it was probably her hand on my balls). We had a couple of drinks and then she asked if I would “pay ba fine”. I paid and we headed back to my room. We had our showers and it was time for the main course. I was feeling my way around and I started to finger her pussy. She shoved my hand away and I quickly returned it from whence it came. She pushed it away again and hit me but in a way that made me sence that she liked a bit of rough, I just didn't realise how rough yet! I perserved with my hand and started to slap her if she tried to hit me, I continued and was slapping her hard on her ass. I then started to finger her ass roughly. She was squirming around and I gave her 3-4 hard slaps on the ass again. She let out a cry but settled down and began to accept her fate. The animal in me had been awoken and I fucked her very roughly in all orifices, I eventually pulled off the condom and came on her face and mouth forcing her to swallow. I was slightly concerned that I might have gone overboard but she snuggled up to me like a kitten. There were a couple of similar sessions during the night and again the next day, she couldn't get enough of the rough stuff and kept saying “I have found my man”.

I let her go about 3pm but I went back to her bar that evening. We were playing pool at the rear of the bar, she was wearing a denim mini skirt. When she was taking a shot I put my hand on her back and pinned her to the table, I roughly pulled the knickers off her while one of the other bar girls looked on. I plunged my hand into her soaking wet snatch and she visably moved to accommodate me. After a few seconds I took her by the elbow, paid her bar fine and we went back to the room for more. She hasn't stopped calling me since!

Plainclothes police on Soi 6! Gentlemen we do not have much longer to enjoy.

I have a request - does anyone know of a place to get a non-sexual Thai massage that is open 24 hours or anyway very late?

[QUOTE=Forced Hand]Just got back today from a trip to LOS which included 9 days in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a blast in LOS, your post makes me more and more anxious to go in December.

You take any pictures of the girls that you can post?

So is the Den still open then?

I saw reports about them getting busted again because their web site was "advertising illegal services".

[QUOTE=Naughty]So is the Den still open then?

I saw reports about them getting busted again because their web site was "advertising illegal services".[/QUOTE]

Just read in another forum about a guy who had met Cerberus the other day and he expect they are reopening within the week.

I say only yipppieeeeee. I have long time planned a visit this november...

[QUOTE=Naughty]So is the Den still open then?

I saw reports about them getting busted again because their web site was "advertising illegal services".[/QUOTE]

It was open three weeks ago, maybe things have changed.

[QUOTE=Forced Hand]It was open three weeks ago, maybe things have changed.[/QUOTE]

It was written about a couple of weeks ago here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=931068&postcount=3272[/url]

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]It was written about a couple of weeks ago here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=931068&postcount=3272[/url][/QUOTE]

Whew, that was a close one! I must of been there on 14th and it was raided on 18th. Nearly caught with my trousers down!

"Immigration were made aware of the venues website which they claim offered sexual services to clients in exchange for money which is illegal here in Thailand."

Offering sexual services for money huh, what is the world coming to?

i would be very wary of stepping foot in this place again as they seem to be very high on someone's shit list. such a shame as they did provide quality guaranteed service. however, once the cops in pattaya start setting up sex stings (as in the article below), you know it's time to pass on those places. oh well, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s is next door.

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boonlua chatree
[i]call it the devil’s den or hell club, police appear intent on closing down a soi lk metro club known for its anything goes adult entertainment no matter what name is on the door.
for the second time this year, pattaya immigration police sept. 19 raided the club operating under the name “devil’s den,” detaining 21 women and the american owner, jack daigle. this time police swooped in based on the club’s latest ploy to attract customers: by offering bookings and services over the internet. officers seized a computer, external hard drive, mobile phone, cd-roms and brochures, plus condoms and sexual aids.
all the women were charged with loitering in a house of prostitution while daigle, 48, was busted for working without a permit and intent to sell prostitution services. the club remained closed last week.
daigle denied the charges but, with a number of previous arrests for adult-related activities, police were skeptical.
originally opened as a copy of the well-known bangkok eden club, devil’s den has been subjected to several raids in its short history with each closure resulting in the brothel’s sale to new owners. earlier this year police pounced on the “hell club,” as it was previously known, racing to its upstairs room to seize a wide variety of adult toys and paraphernalia. this time, it was the club’s website that did it in.
pattaya immigration police superintendent col. a-non-nut kamollut said investigators had spent time perusing the devil’s den internet storefront, which provided prices for illegal services, information, photos and the ability to chat with hostesses and make bookings. police, using a foreign assistant, simply contacted daigle by telephone an hour before the raid and made an appointment. the foreigner went to the club, paid for services and adjourned to a bedroom. eight officers then moved in.
pattaya authorities also said they planned to arrest the business’s registered owners, michele victor mentor and wasana kotnadee.[/i]

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Christian G and Betong:

Thanks for the answers.

Will give Red point a try when i come down then.

What I understand, the bars on Soi 6 are the closest you can get to the Star of Light " style " in Bkk... or are there any options ?

Also see in this tread that Devils Den will be back up and running again soon...thats good, because i was looking forward to pay them a visit.

Again...Thanks.

Goteborg

[QUOTE=Forced Hand]Just got back today from a trip to LOS which included 9 days in Pattaya.

We arrived at about 10.30am to View Talay 6 which is located between Soi 8 and Soi 9, a good base to afford easy access to any of the fleshpots I hope to submerge myself into in the coming days. It is a studio apartment which is managed by [url]www.dancewatchers.com[/url]. I had stayed in Dancewatcher's apartments before in Jomtien and the standard was very good. This studio on the 18th floor was no exception to this. [/QUOTE]I am glad you enjoyed your stay. We have a new room Which I call the V.I.P. play room with all the toys located in the View Talay 2A building

[url]http://dancewatchers.com/V.I.P._Condo_Jomtien_View_Talay_2A_dancewatchers.com_luxury_condo_rental.html[/url]

Miss Tik will be glad to check you in for your next trip

(i would be very wary of stepping foot in this place again as they seem to be very high on someone's shit list. such a shame as they did provide quality guaranteed service. however, once the cops in pattaya start setting up sex stings (as in the article below), you know it's time to pass on those places. oh well, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s is next door.)

as with almost everything in thailand, this is all about money. these guys had already been closed down one time, you would of thought they learned there lesson. but, i guess they didn't and had to prove it to themselves one more time.

either they did not pay the police or the thai mafia that controls every street. whichever, it got them closed once more. hopefully, if they try to open one more time they will make sure they have all there tee's crossed before opening.

He's my idol ...

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Just read in another forum about a guy who had met Cerberus the other day and he expect they are reopening within the week.

I say only yipppieeeeee. I have long time planned a visit this november...[/QUOTE]

Well, they have said tomorrow and next week to me. Think it's a bit uncertain. I just came back after a short holiday where I lived just across the street from DD. Some of the days there was an open door and I just dropped by and booked an ovenight outcall on two occations, but no incall services provided.

[QUOTE=Forced Hand]Just got back today from a trip to LOS which included 9 days in Pattaya.

I wanted to up the ante slightly so I brought her to that place sink or swim owns, (can't remember the name of it now).[/QUOTE]

Think you might have been to Babybolls, my favourite a-go-go in Pattaya.
Btw. an excellent report. Thanks for makeing an effort.

Another cute little spinner with a killer body, who I’ve known a long time, came back from her holiday in Isaan last night with a new pair of tits …

(sigh) … why do so many beautiful girls feel the need to mutilate their lovely bodies with silicone like that? She looks like a freekin’ blowup doll now – pretty face; gorgeous ass; fantastic legs, and balloon shaped jugs far too big for her frame.

It’s disgusting!

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Another cute little spinner with a killer body, who I’ve known a long time, came back from her holiday in Isaan last night with a new pair of tits …

(sigh) … why do so many beautiful girls feel the need to mutilate their lovely bodies with silicone like that? She looks like a freekin’ blowup doll now – pretty face; gorgeous ass; fantastic legs, and balloon shaped jugs far too big for her frame.

It’s disgusting![/QUOTE]

Damn I feel so sorry for you.... This means you gotta go out and find other 18 year old spinners.... Must be so hard on you to put up with all this nonsense.

In other words... I understand your dilemma and pretty much agree with your point but I don't feel fucking sad for you :D :D :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV].... This means you gotta go out and find other 18 year old spinners.... [/QUOTE]
Actually, this one was getting a little long in the tooth anyway at 23, so I've long since moved on ... :D

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Actually, this one was getting a little long in the tooth anyway at 23, so I've long since moved on ... :D[/QUOTE]

Now you're making me cry......

OK I'll send you some photos of the 18 year old i was with from MNL last week to get you back on track.... and I know some 20 year olds in pattaya that are looking for some fun but for some reason I think your Rolodex is too full all ready :D :D

I have a new definition of a bastard because of you... it's Daddy07 :D :D

Few initial observations on Pattaya, a former regular haunt. Returning after over a year away, they may be old hat to residents but are novel to me.

Theres a snazzy new mall opened right next to Soi 8 where I’m staying - like to be at the centre of the action. It is chock full of expensive shops (recession, what recession?) and has a splendid food court where I will no doubt be doing a lot of my scranning on this trip.

Taking a mid-evening stroll along the Beach Road, I was amazed at the sheer number of freelancers around. What crackdown? Far more than I recall from previous visits. Mostly skegs and skanks, there were also quite a few nice looking chicks as well, certainly on par or better than would be found in your average bar beer. Returning the same way a couple of hours later the lookers had mostly gone, probably snatched up LT by earlybirds. Maybe if you want a nice looking Beach Road FL, you have to get there early?

Lots more Indians around – Pattaya seems to have become very popular with sex starved sub-continentals. Actually saw a couple of Sikh gentleman doing some business with a pair of Indian hookers (I heard their accents so I was in no doubt that they were Indian ladies). So I guess its not only with Indian men that the place has become popular. An interesting development – I wonder if they do business with Falangs as well? Took a plane from Calcutta to Bangkok the other day, when Indian Air pilots finally got their strike shit sorted out, and it was full of young, wealthy, smirking, slavering Indians males yabbering to each other about the delights to come (when the weren’t pestering the trolley dolly’s or trying to make cell phone calls in mid-air!). I asked the chubby young Bengalu boy, seated beside me, why he was going to Thailand and a dreamy look came into his eyes. ‘Thai girls, man!’, was his reply. Bet that the return flight could be called the 'dripper clipper'.

Saw a funny thing in Peppermint, although it was no doubt, totally unfunny for the girl concerned or her victims. Whoever designed the footwear for the table dancers in there has got to win an award for ‘Pattaya sadist of the year’. They are retro-70’s platform clodhoppers with 4 inch heels. This plus the fact that the girls are knickerless makes an accident waiting to happen. And last night it did! The girl was attempting to climb onto the small table using a padded bar stool as a step,all the while trying to protect her modesty with her other hand. Beneath her was a couple of far eastern gentlemen both desperately trying to glimpse her snatch up her short skirt. The inevitable happened and she slipped and went careering, arse over tit into the 2 voyeurs. There were asses and glasses (both optical and drinking) flying everywhere. Of course yours truly maintained a straight face;).

An even funnier thing was later observed in Soi 8. A shirtless, pissed up Brit (had to be!) picked a fight with a bunch of ladyboys and proceeded to engage in a stand-up scrap with them in the middle of the soi. They would run at him and try to clout him round the head or brain him with their shoes. He would take, largely ineffectual swings at them. Guess the problem with fighting with lb’s is that part of your mind holds back with the ingrained pre-conception of not hitting a woman, whereas you are actually taking on fully grown adult males. So you are at an immediate disadvantage. Last I saw of the guy he was weaving down the soi, trying to pick a fight with everyone he passed. Makes me proud to be British …not! Does seem to be a lot of the dubious gender around on soi 8 though.

This fracas led to my meeting my ‘tilac’ for the night. This cute little thing had come out of her beer bar to watch the fun. We started chatting, I liked her look and sense of fun, so I followed her back into her bar, and later barfined her. Heres a photo but non facial (at least of the photo kind:D) as I agreed to meet her tonight and if I don’t find anything better in the meantime, I might just do so.

Kicked her out about an hour ago and now its pissing down with rain. Bollocks!!

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Another cute little spinner with a killer body, who I’ve known a long time, came back from her holiday in Isaan last night with a new pair of tits …

(sigh) … why do so many beautiful girls feel the need to mutilate their lovely bodies with silicone like that? She looks like a freekin’ blowup doll now – pretty face; gorgeous ass; fantastic legs, and balloon shaped jugs far too big for her frame.[/QUOTE]

They wouldn't do it if it didn't improve their marketability. You may find it disgusting, but far more mongers love it. In my case usually the only time I run across the implants is in older women who got them years ago in better times (I'm normally unwilling to pay what a young fake-boobed woman would cost). I can tell you though that in most cases the big implants on older women are a very nice plus, even though ideally I prefer 'soong, pawm, and nom lek'.

[QUOTE=Opebo]They wouldn't do it if it didn't improve their marketability. You may find it disgusting, but far more mongers love it...[/QUOTE]
I suppose you are right.

I feel the same way about tatoo's -- disgusting!

[QUOTE=D Cups]To each his/her own, DaddyO. Although I haven't had the pleasure of seeing this particular girl, with or without enhancements, I would like to. Where can I find her, please? :) ... [/QUOTE]
Why, Pattaya, of course. :D

Walked down to Soi 6 earlier to visit Red Point Bar. Nearly enticed into Ruby’s but stuck to my plan and saw a quite nice looking lass outside RPB, who grabbed my arm and escorted me into the bar. No other customers, Wanted a take away but the girl, called Dang, told me she only worked within the bar. Don’t know if this is true but after 5 minutes of gentle trouser snake massage, I decided what the heck.

The deal is 300 to the bar and 700 to the girl which is a bit more than I recall it being on my last visit. Dang said that she would try her damndesr to make me come twice in the allotted time (about an hour) but I was dubious as I had already had a morning session and I ‘aint getting any younger. Anal was also available for an extra 300.

Up 2 flights of stairs to the quite reasonable room. Dang got her kit off and turned out to have a nice body with a fine pair of fair sized, natural breasts and a flat belly (no kids) with the important parts freshly shaved. We spent 5 minutes in the shower washing our bits and then onto the bed. Great BJ and 69 had me on the verge in no time and I repositioned her onto her back with me kneeling above her for the final coup de grace straight into her willing mouth. She cleaned up and I found that I was still up for more (taken my cialis that morning – bless the little blue pill), and so off we went again like spastic rabbits but after about 20 minutes in various positions, it was obvious that there was no way I was coming again with the rubber on. But Dang would not admit defeat and whipping it off she proceeded to tit wank me until I eventually arrived.

I had meant to take her in the ass (and she had washed in preperation for it) but never got round to it but gave her the extra 300 anyway.

After the session I noticed that Dang was busily scrubbing away at a cum stain on the sheet, using the used towel and water. I guess that the sheets are only changed maybe once a day so if you are fastidious about hygiene, best give RPB a swerve.

Red Point Bar is still a good bet for an economy priced PSE.

** Fuck me, just noticed its my thousandth post**

For those interested, there is a very nice massage parlor on Walking Street opposite the entrance to Soi 16, where you can get a 1 hour foot massage for 150 baht. Oil massages are also available and some of the ladies are quite pretty.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Gaolei,

Maybe it is a joke! But if your friend takes this guys advice, I personally suggest you being his friend chop off his dick! Cause that is exactly what the Saudi is going to do!

Take one illegal act and compound it with more illegal acts! By the time the Saudi are through with him. He will have a short dick, short fingers and one ear and his ass would be shreaded!

LBM[/QUOTE]No lying here. They are some serious MF'ers in the Middle East and whatever you do, don't lie to them and try to go behind the rules. Only they can do that. They will find out and make your life miserable. No shit! Based on experience.

Peace out!

[QUOTE=Daddy07]I feel the same way about tatoo's -- disgusting![/QUOTE]

And shaving! Making those young girls shave! Should be a capital offence!

[QUOTE=Rocksoff]And shaving! Making those young girls shave! Should be a capital offence![/QUOTE]Hmm, dunno. Some girls look quite good with full beards... :)

Proof that Thailand is a third world country:

Avoid, if possible, getting into a motorbike accident in Pattaya. Whether farang or Thai, you are liable to be laid out on the police station sofa and allowed to die while some sadist writes with magic marker the word “drunk” on your forehead and draws a mustache on your lip.

[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/news/2009/october/news_05_10_52_2.shtml[/url]

C.S.

You sure you are talking about Ruby's? This place has been closed for over nearly 5 months and as of today this place is still under renovation.

LBM

This week's episode

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Omd883rU0[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjkPsD0FK_c[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_sUPcnT8jk[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgvAILr7mts&feature=sub[/url]

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Walked down to Soi 6 earlier to visit Red Point Bar. Nearly enticed into Ruby’s but stuck to my plan and saw a quite nice looking lass outside RPB, who grabbed my arm and escorted me into the bar. No other customers, Wanted a take away but the girl, called Dang, told me she only worked within the bar. Don’t know if this is true but after 5 minutes of gentle trouser snake massage, I decided what the heck.

The deal is 300 to the bar and 700 to the girl which is a bit more than I recall it being on my last visit. Dang said that she would try her damndesr to make me come twice in the allotted time (about an hour) but I was dubious as I had already had a morning session and I ‘aint getting any younger. Anal was also available for an extra 300.

Up 2 flights of stairs to the quite reasonable room. Dang got her kit off and turned out to have a nice body with a fine pair of fair sized, natural breasts and a flat belly (no kids) with the important parts freshly shaved. We spent 5 minutes in the shower washing our bits and then onto the bed. Great BJ and 69 had me on the verge in no time and I repositioned her onto her back with me kneeling above her for the final coup de grace straight into her willing mouth. She cleaned up and I found that I was still up for more (taken my cialis that morning – bless the little blue pill), and so off we went again like spastic rabbits but after about 20 minutes in various positions, it was obvious that there was no way I was coming again with the rubber on. But Dang would not admit defeat and whipping it off she proceeded to tit wank me until I eventually arrived.

I had meant to take her in the ass (and she had washed in preperation for it) but never got round to it but gave her the extra 300 anyway.

After the session I noticed that Dang was busily scrubbing away at a cum stain on the sheet, using the used towel and water. I guess that the sheets are only changed maybe once a day so if you are fastidious about hygiene, best give RPB a swerve.

Red Point Bar is still a good bet for an economy priced PSE.

** Fuck me, just noticed its my thousandth post**[/QUOTE]Red Pont Bar is my preferit Bar in soi6. Many lady do Anal in this Bar.

I went with Dang many time.

finally it’s time to return to los again after 3 months of hardship since my last trip. only two weeks available this time too, but i recon i can manage some good recreation this time as well.

d1
flight arrives half an hour late and it’s the usual 1 km speed walk to immigration where there is a 15 min wait. the bell bus i booked for 2 pm has left when i arrived 2:15. was hoping for a delay like last time i used them. so was about to go for a taxi, but since i was not in a hurry i bought a ticket with the other bus company going to pattaya. the 3 pm departure is actually 3:15, but they left on the minute. gave my time go get some cash, sim card and food. it went really smooth. pattaya klang is announced 1h 25 min later. for 126b this was excellent value. a taxi driver wanted 200b to take me to soi honey, so i jumped on a moto for 60b.

checked in at malee. it was only 450b so just wanted to try this place this time. room is small but there is a tv, fridge, hot shower, ac, good wifi and a safe, where i can actually fit my mini laptop. the place is clean and the staff is friendly. also rented a bike for only 120b. but it’s a bit noisy with the music from the bar downstairs and the massage place next door at daytime. i’ll stay two nights and then i’ll add a few hundred baths and get my regular standard i think.

went over to devil's den and it was closed. took a walk along beach rd around 6pm and it was quite slim pickings there. it seems like the frequent raids have had its impact. on my way to visit my friend h, i almost went straight into to back of a bathbus. so hit the brakes and fell off the bike, but luckily the speed was low and i only got a trifling scratch in my palm. we took a walk along beach rd where it looked a little bit better now. then we took a look at peppermint, which had a good number of costumers. had two beers and a ld there, but i didn’t get the good vibes with her, and there were other girls i’d rather take, so we continued to x-zone which had very few costumers, but the girls looked promising. however now i was really tired due to the sleep deprivation after an overnight flight so i headed back home.

in soi honey there are a lot of massage places and i think all of them offer better extra service than massage, so i decided that an hour massage with boom-boom would be fine before i went to bed. there was a girl who could say i love you in my native language, so i just decided to take this little plump girl for a quick one. she had big hooters as well. you get serviced on a bed behind a curtain, so i was thinking about having the massage in my room just next door, but found it a bit exciting. let here give me a baby oil rub for 10 min before i just said let’s get on with the extra service. actually had a good shag with a very service minded girl. the only problem was my little brother who not satisfied with only one shot and refused to go down. and the clever girl kept on playing with him. it was only half an hour till closing time so she came to my room for lt. then finally the little bro got what he wanted, including her butthole. it doesn’t always go as you plan. rarely would i say. :rolleyes:

d2
finally got myself out of bed at 1pm. had some lunch and then a workout, went to the hairdresser for a hair cut and shaved off my big moustaches. looked much younger again now. later i met up with h again. we took the usual walk along beach rd. he lives here in pattaya so he does a lot of st with beach rd girls. it’s difficult to be a horny guy on a budget. we sat down at airport club around 9:30 and it was quite crowded there. it’s funny that his coffee or soft drink always turns out more expensive than my beer. but then it’s the show you’re paying for. airport has a lot of lookers and it’s a hassle free environment when it comes to ladydrinks. the initiative is very much up to you.

after airport club we jumped on a bath bus down to soi 6. none of us have actually been inside any of the bars there. we took a look inside two of them. all of them empty, but we were soon joined by two girls from the outside. seems like it’s not the place for drinking, but rather boom-boom upstairs. we however sat down at betty boup. it’s more like a go-go than a bar. some very cute girls there as well. i was joined by nam, 19 years old. bought here a ld and playing and teasing a bit with here before we went up for st. she had been working there for a month; at least that’s what she said. a decent lay though. and the room was much better then what i expected or feared. just when i had finished i got an sms from h. he had just taken a girl himself. so i had to sit and wait then. borrowed nam’s nurse hat and did some dancing and swung around the pole a few times. also noticed that quite a few japanese dropped in. it turned out that h was a bit hell-bent not taking a girl. but mama just kept on sending girls over. all of them asking the same questions what your name? where you from? how long stay thailand? you buy me ladydrink? the 4th one however said if you don’t want to fuck me, at least you can by me a ld so i get some commission. he didn’t buy her ld though, but took the first option. both of us left as very happy costumers. i find this place a good and easy option. it is more convenient to be able to sit down inside and have a closer look at the lightly dressed girls than just grabbing a girl on the outside in two-second decision. very good value as well for 300+700 room and st.

d3
i moved from soi honey to soi metro. metro apartments only had room available for one night, but i found a good room at billabong with a balcony looking down at the closed devil’s den. or, hey there is an open door there. so i go downstairs and take a look inside. i’m informed they are not open yet, but i can book for outcall. probably a good opportunity to book an overnight since they haven’t had much workload the last few days. :cool: i was very happy with jar last time, and since then she has moved to the other side of the yellow line. but unfortunately she had a neck pain. don’t think i would make it better either. so i booked rose. i guess my plan to do a bf at babydolls have to wait till another day.

i just had a relaxing day, reading and drinking coffee, cruising around in pattaya. in the evening i spent some time at central shopping mall, several good places to eat upstairs on level 5 and 6. when i was going to back to soi metro it had started to rain, the mother of all downpours. but i had a date, so what’s a 5 min walk in the rain. i might as well have jumped in sea.

damn was i up for a ride. i think i ate pussy for almost an hour. she just wouldn’t let me stop. and then it was a big wet spot on the bed. :p after the two first rounds we had some food naked on the balcony while watching the life down on the soi. so back where we started. but after a while my usual luck, she wasn’t feeling to well. i let her go after 4.5 hours of manhandling me. have to say i have great respect for the girls who take it up the back door. the strap-on in mine became a bit too much for me. :eek:

d4
today i booked a flight to ko samui for tomorrow, 3170b. would have liked some competition on this route, but bangkok airways own the damn airport in samui. tested the yellow atm, krungsri bank of ayudhaya, on soi buakhao at soi diana.
access fee:0
the small things that make me happy. i’m using my debit card however, but it’s still visa.

rose had sucked on to my like a leech and left me with some marks on my neck. which of course was noticed by the other girls. at least confirmed as a butterfly then. since it was a little rain in the air i decided to stay close to home and did a bf at soi off soi buakhao. wasn’t too great so i called it a night after two shots to secure some good sleep before going to the airport tomorrow.

link to my samui report
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=938050&postcount=538[/url]

[QUOTE=Tim Bone]Went over to Devil's Den and it was closed.

looking down at the closed Devil’s Den. Or, hey there is an open door there. So I go downstairs and take a look inside. I’m informed they are not open yet, but I can book for outcall. [/QUOTE]I emailed the owner a few days ago and he said it would be open for my next trip in November. Not sure if it counts as open right now from your description?

[QUOTE=Tim Bone]
Rose had sucked on to my like a leech and left me with some marks on my neck. Which of course was noticed by the other girls. At least confirmed as a butterfly then. [/QUOTE]

Hey Tim...

I guess you and I share something in common. I took Rose for an overnight about a month ago, and she did the same thing to me. I got several questions from other TG's in the following week. It took about 10 days for the marks to disappear. It seems that Rose likes to mark her prey! But will I be back for more? YES!!! You can be sure of that. I'll be back in Pattaya in two weeks, and Rose is at the top of my list!

GG

[QUOTE=D Cups]Can you be a tad more specific, please? I mean, you're not interested in her any more, right?[/QUOTE]
Sorry to be coy, mate, and your're right, I'm no longer interested in her, but as I've said several times before here, I never post pictures or otherwise identifiy girls on the Internet without their permission.

My previous experience with Wan and her torrents of milk and great service brought me back for her. She was blowing up my phone anyhow. So I decided to partake again and she promised me the world. And I knew she would deliver.

I went to her room (actually the hotel she lived in) on Soi 11 I think. Not the nicest of places and her room was not terribly clean. When I arrived Wan came downstairs and had on a see through shirt with her breasts leaking through the shirt! The area of her shirt around her nipples was drenched! Fantastic. We went to her room and her 4 month old son was there being babysat by and old lady. She wanted me to hold him and I refused using the excuse of my hands being dirty. I came there for some uninhibited sex and just didnt want a child on my mind when I was doing the deed.

Wan knew just what I would like. As we walked up the stairs she kept squeezing her breasts and lots of milk just kept squirting everywhere! I didnt know a women could make so much milk! Anyhow we walked to her room and a friend of hers walked by and saw the milk action. Wan talked with her and then asked me did I want a threesome. Her friend was not that attractive and initially I declined but then I said what the hell. Wan assured me her friend (Tik) service would be as good as hers.

We went in the room and Wan and Tik did a milk show for me. Wan would shoot milk into Tik's mouth and Tik would drink and let it flow out of her mouth. 40 minutes damn near of this on video. Then Wan started a good bj..then Tik would go to work..this went on for ten minutes or so. Then I slapped on a condom and went to work fucking them both though Wan wanted to change condoms when it was her turn(smart girl). Tik got as wet as could be and was moaning to the high heavens. Tik then gave me her ass and took it like a trooper! When I wanted to shoot I asked who wanted the facial and Tik begged for it! I asked Wan to shoot milk on Tik's face as I blew my wad on her face. Damn it was good. I gave 1000 baht each and they were worth every penny. Some of you will say I overpaid. Believe me I did not! Tik even promised me a foursome when I get back. She said one of the other girls she will bring is a milker as well. Gosh! I'm in heaven!

Again guys sometimes age and looks are not the best but in the end we want the best service possible. In this case I got everything I wanted.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]C.S.

You sure you are talking about Ruby's? This place has been closed for over nearly 5 months and as of today this place is still under renovation.

LBM[/QUOTE]

My mistake. Twas the RPB copycat just before Red Point on the left as you approach from Beach Road, whatever it is called. Also had one or two hot looking girls.

[QUOTE=Christian G] I went with Dang many time.[/QUOTE]

One horny lady. And a little bit of a squirter!

[QUOTE=Serial Kisser]Here's the short version - [url]http://hotfile.com/dl/7778594/19fc8ad/Technique_How_To_Give_Your_Woman_An_Orgasm_excluzive_.avi.html[/url]

Here's the full version - [url]http://hotfile.com/dl/4001850/d2ae064/Make_Your_Girlfriend_Orgasm_Full_Training.avi.html[/url]

A word of caution though - use this technique sparingly - especially if the girl has not experienced it before, or you'll end up without a pussy like I did.[/QUOTE]Great technique serial kisser tried it on a Wg and got great results.

The only bad side she didn't have enough energy left for the rest of the night.

[QUOTE=Great Guy]Hey Tim...

I guess you and I share something in common. I took Rose for an overnight about a month ago, and she did the same thing to me. I got several questions from other TG's in the following week. It took about 10 days for the marks to disappear. It seems that Rose likes to mark her prey! But will I be back for more? YES!!! You can be sure of that. I'll be back in Pattaya in two weeks, and Rose is at the top of my list!

GG[/QUOTE]
GG
I guess a lot of guys have her in common, and it’s a good thing to have shared I will say. I was thinking the same, she marks me as her pray. But I will be happy to be her “victim” again. Enjoy your return to Pattaya. I envy you already.

just had my first wank after returning from thailand. :o

a short report of the days after my return from ko samui

d1
got a taxi to the airport at ko samui from lamai for 400b and was off to u-tapao airport. they seem to have further developed the airport at samui, and to my joy they had free wifi at the gate. from u-tapao i took a shared minibus for 250b. the official taxi rate was 1000. there are two taxi boots and i choused the closest one. seems like the other is run by bangkok airways and most people used them. my usual luck he starts dropping off at jomtien. but it only took slightly more than an hour to be back at billabong in soi lk metro. had to take a big corner room this time.

there was this open door at devil’s den again, so i dropped by and jar was sitting on the outside. booked her for the night then. had then a coffee with h and o. o was a bit disappointed since the girl he had planned to st in the bar was not there today and his miss coming back from work soon, so no time for him to make another arrangement. later on i had a foot massage in soi buakhau and was seated next to a girl who started her massage at the same time. she was reading a thai magazine which i used as a pretext to initiate a conversation; especially discussing the horoscopes. :rolleyes: after the massage we exchanged phone numbers. she wanted to hook up tonight. it didn’t seem to be a problem that her boyfriend would arrive next week. but i already had a dd date.

we had agreed i would pick up jar at dd. since there was nobody there i had a beer and played pool in the bar across the street. i was tempted with the 19 year old with whom i played. i went over to billabong and jar was waiting in the bar. had just bought the girl in the other bar a drink, but now i went back to the original plan. a minor communication error there. a good night in the room with here. more a gfe with jar than the pse with rose. she likes to sleep with bodies entangled together. at 1130 she left and headed over to dd where the door was open again.

d2
the girl i met at the massage yesterday had already called me twice by noon, so i called her back. she had a day off from work and she was at central and came over to soi metro. and the inevitable happened. an hour and a half after jar left i was banging this 24 year old. i was pleasantly surprised that she had a neat bush, since i’ve only been doing shaved ones so far on this trip. she also had an athletic frame since she had been doing sports and worked out regularly. yes, and i did her without condom. i don’t thing i would have been able to come with one. not the smartest thing to do, but…..whatever. i ended up hanging out with her for the rest of the day, dinner, movie, ice cream, etc.

we went back to my room early, but to no avail. they were having some live entertainment outside the irish rover from 8, and it kept on going until 2:15 with lousy thai karaoke. i do like this soi, but let’s hope i remember this next time and relocate myself to another spot.

d3
so up again at 7am to drive her home to pick up her dress and dropped her off at the restaurant she was working. i went back to sleep and we would meet up again after she had finished work.

i had a hard interval training on a treadmill today, but the speed was lower than usual despite the same heart rate. i thought it might just be the last 2 weeks of laziness. but later on during the day i didn’t feel too good. i just didn’t feel i had the usual energy. it turned out i had a slight fever. anyway i had picked her up at her room at 6pm and we went back to my place early this evening. i fucked her but i just couldn’t come so we went to sleep. i took a paracet which reduced the temperature down to normal and i manage a full round later.

d4
the next day i had a coffee and was strolling the rather empty beach rd with my friend h who had returned from a visa run to laos. it was a rather uneventful trip for him when it came to whoring, so he dropped by a massage place where he has a favourite.

meet with the girl after she finished work and had a shag. then out for dinner and back to the room for another one, just right after she has hung the phone talking with her bf. he is sponsoring her with 25000 a month. she said she worked in a bar this summer, so it seems like sponsoring in some cases can keep a girl out of a bar. but the success is only partial though. girls need luuuuv when the sponsor is away. ;)

at 8pm the taxi takes me to the airport and it’s all over for this time. not sure when i’m back again, but i’m hoping i can return within the next 3-4 months.

[QUOTE=Showdown]My previous experience with Wan and her torrents of milk and great service brought me back for her. She was blowing up my phone anyhow. So I decided to partake again and she promised me the world. And I knew she would deliver.

Wan knew just what I would like. As we walked up the stairs she kept squeezing her breasts and lots of milk just kept squirting everywhere! I didnt know a women could make so much milk! Anyhow we walked to her room and a friend of hers walked by and saw the milk action. Wan talked with her and then asked me did I want a threesome. Her friend was not that attractive and initially I declined but then I said what the hell. Wan assured me her friend (Tik) service would be as good as hers.

We went in the room and Wan and Tik did a milk show for me. Wan would shoot milk into Tik's mouth and Tik would drink and let it flow out of her mouth. 40 minutes damn near of this on video. Tik then gave me her ass and took it like a trooper! When I wanted to shoot I asked who wanted the facial and Tik begged for it! I asked Wan to shoot milk on Tik's face as I blew my wad on her face. Damn it was good. I gave 1000 baht each and they were worth every penny. Some of you will say I overpaid. Believe me I did not! Tik even promised me a foursome when I get back. She said one of the other girls she will bring is a milker as well. Gosh! I'm in heaven!

Again guys sometimes age and looks are not the best but in the end we want the best service possible. In this case I got everything I wanted.[/QUOTE]
Being the Cheap Charlie that I am, I think 1000 baht each was a bargain for an evolution like that. And the video was included too! I think I will be looking for them asap if I head back to Pattaya next month.

[QUOTE=Great Guy]I took Rose for an overnight about a month ago, and she did the same thing to me. It took about 10 days for the marks to disappear. It seems that Rose likes to mark her prey![/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning. I will NOT be going anywhere near her next visit! Might just too difficult to explain away...

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Thanks for the warning. I will NOT be going anywhere near her next visit! Might just too difficult to explain away...[/QUOTE]

That's OK, Mouse... I'll take your place (although I may try to keep Rose a little more under control - if that's possible).

By the way, I just heard that Devil's Den will be re-opening tomorrow. Great news!

GG

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Walked down to Soi 6 earlier to visit Red Point Bar. Nearly enticed into Ruby’s but stuck to my plan and saw a quite nice looking lass outside RPB, who grabbed my arm and escorted me into the bar. No other customers, Wanted a take away but the girl, called Dang, told me she only worked within the bar. Don’t know if this is true but after 5 minutes of gentle trouser snake massage, I decided what the heck.

The deal is 300 to the bar and 700 to the girl which is a bit more than I recall it being on my last visit. Dang said that she would try her damndesr to make me come twice in the allotted time (about an hour) but I was dubious as I had already had a morning session and I ‘aint getting any younger. Anal was also available for an extra 300.

Up 2 flights of stairs to the quite reasonable room. Dang got her kit off and turned out to have a nice body with a fine pair of fair sized, natural breasts and a flat belly (no kids) with the important parts freshly shaved. We spent 5 minutes in the shower washing our bits and then onto the bed. Great BJ and 69 had me on the verge in no time and I repositioned her onto her back with me kneeling above her for the final coup de grace straight into her willing mouth. She cleaned up and I found that I was still up for more (taken my cialis that morning – bless the little blue pill), and so off we went again like spastic rabbits but after about 20 minutes in various positions, it was obvious that there was no way I was coming again with the rubber on. But Dang would not admit defeat and whipping it off she proceeded to tit wank me until I eventually arrived.

I had meant to take her in the ass (and she had washed in preperation for it) but never got round to it but gave her the extra 300 anyway.

After the session I noticed that Dang was busily scrubbing away at a cum stain on the sheet, using the used towel and water. I guess that the sheets are only changed maybe once a day so if you are fastidious about hygiene, best give RPB a swerve.

Red Point Bar is still a good bet for an economy priced PSE.

** Fuck me, just noticed its my thousandth post**[/QUOTE]The RP is a great Joint that I also spend alot of time there,, but I tend to like the lineup in the Obar as well. the girls there have a great attitude and will do what ever u ask for. I was there last month and picked up a little 19 year old spinner that took it in every hole. A true GFE where such experiences are lacking on soi6

[QUOTE=Great Guy]I just heard that Devil's Den will be re-opening tomorrow. Great news!

GG[/QUOTE]Thanks. I shall be making a booking tomorrow in that case. I have a great idea for a Party!

[QUOTE=Mishwar]A true GFE where such experiences are lacking on soi6[/QUOTE]I'd have to disagree. Sure, there are a lot of total hardcore pros on Soi 6, at places like Red Point and My Friend You. But this is also the first place many new arrivals come, and it's not hard to find brand new girls who really do give GF experiences (at least till they get totally hardened, which usually happens pretty quickly if they stick around here).

[QUOTE=Great Guy] By the way, I just heard that Devil's Den will be re-opening tomorrow. Great news!

GG[/QUOTE]Their website is back up and running.

Hopefully a good sign!!!

DVEight

[QUOTE=Great Guy]By the way, I just heard that Devil's Den will be re-opening tomorrow. Great news!
GG[/QUOTE]

Passed DD tonight and the lights were on and there were some girls sitting outside the Den. Let's see how long they will stay open this time.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Passed DD tonight and the lights were on and there were some girls sitting outside the Den. Let's see how long they will stay open this time.[/QUOTE]

Great news! Hope they will stay open at least until end of november, I must visit that place before going home november 26.

Of course i hope they will stay open longer than that... I wish Cerberus good luck this time and that he learns to handle the authorities the proper thai way...

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Passed DD tonight and the lights were on and there were some girls sitting outside the Den. Let's see how long they will stay open this time.[/QUOTE]

Just noticed their website is up again:

[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/[/url]

Cheers

[QUOTE=Betong]and it's not hard to find brand new girls who really do give GF experiences (at least till they get totally hardened, which usually happens pretty quickly if they stick around here).[/QUOTE]

I gotta agree, my first hit on soi 6 was total GFE. After that they turned out to be hardened pro's for the most part except for one other girl. It can be found.

I will be heading over to Thailand again in Dec. It's been a couple of yrs since I was there last. So I have a couple of questions regarding bus schedules.

From my research and past experience, I know there's the Bell Bus Service from the airport that goes directly to Pattaya's bus station on North Pattaya Road. And that it has a 6pm departure from the airport. And that the cost is now 200 baht.

I arrive at 4pm at the airport, and I read from another site that there's a government bus that leave at 5:15pm from Level 1 at Gate 8 FROM THE AIRPORT. The cost is about 125baht. And it drops people off at North Pattaya Rd, Central Pattaya Rd, and South Pattaya Rd, along the Sukhumvit Highway.

Is this correct?

I know there's a government bus that departs from the Airport Bus Terminal that's 5 mins away from the actual airport. I didn't know that there's a bus that departs RIGHT from the airport. As I get in at 4pm, I may not make it over to the Bus Terminal in time to catch the 5pm departure to Pattaya. But a 5:15 departure from the airport would be perfect.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Tonedog

[QUOTE=Tonedog]I will be heading over to Thailand again in Dec. It's been a couple of yrs since I was there last. So I have a couple of questions regarding bus schedules.

From my research and past experience, I know there's the Bell Bus Service from the airport that goes directly to Pattaya's bus station on North Pattaya Road. And that it has a 6pm departure from the airport. And that the cost is now 200 baht.

I arrive at 4pm at the airport, and I read from another site that there's a government bus that leave at 5:15pm from Level 1 at Gate 8 FROM THE AIRPORT. The cost is about 125baht. And it drops people off at North Pattaya Rd, Central Pattaya Rd, and South Pattaya Rd, along the Sukhumvit Highway.

Is this correct?

I know there's a government bus that departs from the Airport Bus Terminal that's 5 mins away from the actual airport. I didn't know that there's a bus that departs RIGHT from the airport. As I get in at 4pm, I may not make it over to the Bus Terminal in time to catch the 5pm departure to Pattaya. But a 5:15 departure from the airport would be perfect.

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Tonedog[/QUOTE]


Hi

[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/our_services.php[/url]

The Bell bus also provides transport from the bus station to your hotel this is included in the price.

[QUOTE=Tonedog]I will be heading over to Thailand again in Dec. It's been a couple of yrs since I was there last. So I have a couple of questions regarding bus schedules.

From my research and past experience, I know there's the Bell Bus Service from the airport that goes directly to Pattaya's bus station on North Pattaya Road. And that it has a 6pm departure from the airport. And that the cost is now 200 baht.

I arrive at 4pm at the airport, and I read from another site that there's a government bus that leave at 5:15pm from Level 1 at Gate 8 FROM THE AIRPORT. The cost is about 125baht. And it drops people off at North Pattaya Rd, Central Pattaya Rd, and South Pattaya Rd, along the Sukhumvit Highway.

Is this correct?

Tonedog[/QUOTE]

It's correct. Bell Travel leaves every even hour while the other bus every odd +15 min. The ticket boot is just next to Bell at exit 8. I used it when I missed my Bell bus last time. I don't know when the first and last departure of the day is.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=938265&postcount=3390[/url]

[QUOTE=Betong]But this is also the first place many new arrivals come, and it's not hard to find brand new girls who really do give GF experiences (at least till they get totally hardened, which usually happens pretty quickly if they stick around here).[/QUOTE]

Gotta agree there :-)

But this weekend Pattaya was challenging .. one of those times when it seems there's not one pretty girl left in town. Even so it was pleasant, with a humble young mother in soi 6, a very pleasant conversational hostess in some Finnish bar off Walking Street, and a regular in another soi 6 bar .. in the bar I noticed depraved expressions that were new, when I got to know her first, her smiles were pure ..

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Just noticed their website is up again:

[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/[/url]

Cheers[/QUOTE]Took a long look at this yesterday. The short videos they've added to each girl's stats & reviews are really hot. Very effective marketing to be sure.

i just return to bangkok after 3 days in pattaya, most bar in soi 7 and 8 is half empty not much customer and quality of the girl is worst than last yr, i did have a few nice girl at the sabai dee massage # 226 1700 bht and #3 vip girl ploy with dragon tatoo on her back 1900 bht, also have a nice bbbj and cim with bee at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] bar very nice and friendly girl and the new central festival mall is nice many good resturant and a great food court.

fast eddie 48

betong ang christian g.

sorry for a late thanks for the reply on my q.

now i have been looking at what you all (maby not all) have been writing here, and i got rough idea where to go for some action.

but i have not seen anything written about places like the sol, so maby there is no place like this in pattaya.

ok. you have [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and pumpstation, but [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] i know from bkk and they don't have the " thing " i'm looking for.

anyway, i'm looking forward to come to pattaya and spend some good time there for a week or so.

it would be fun to able to meet some bm if possible. first beer on me as a little thanks for the help in here.


/ goteborg

Question for the gentlemen of the forum:

I'm arriving in Thailand early December and I'm considering going directly to Pattaya instead of Bangkok. The problem is, I'm arriving at almost midnight and am not sure what my transportation options are at that time of night. Are there vans that go between the airport and Pattaya or will I have to get a taxi and how much? Usually I take a bus from Ekkamai to get there.

I also have a girls number I met on my last trip a few months ago, but I have been having trouble calling her from the U.S. even though I can call to Bangkok. I'm thinking there must be some adjustment in the prefix i need to make.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=Aslan]Question for the gentlemen of the forum:

I'm arriving in Thailand early December and I'm considering going directly to Pattaya instead of Bangkok. The problem is, I'm arriving at almost midnight and am not sure what my transportation options are at that time of night ...[/QUOTE]I would book a taxi if I were in your case. Mr T. Taxi (for instance) service is usually reliable and highly recommended by several ISG members (myself included). Price: 1000 baht, tollway fees included. E-mail: [email]mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com[/email]

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[QUOTE=Aslan]Question for the gentlemen of the forum:

I'm arriving in Thailand early December and I'm considering going directly to Pattaya instead of Bangkok. The problem is, I'm arriving at almost midnight and am not sure what my transportation options are at that time of night. Are there vans that go between the airport and Pattaya or will I have to get a taxi and how much? Usually I take a bus from Ekkamai to get there.[/QUOTE]
Just google "Pattaya Taxi", and you'll see all of the operators that have web sites. I've used VR [url]www.pattaya-taxi.com[/url] many times, and they're prompt, reliable, and inexpensive.

Thanks for the responses regarding bussses directly from airport to Pattaya.

Now that there are 2 bus services going to Pattaya directly from the airport terminal (Bell Service and gov't-run), then why would anyone need to take the free airport shuttle over to the airport bus terminal to catch the other busses to Pattaya?

Just wondering.

[QUOTE=Tonedog]Thanks for the responses regarding bussses directly from airport to Pattaya.

Now that there are 2 bus services going to Pattaya directly from the airport terminal (Bell Service and gov't-run), then why would anyone need to take the free airport shuttle over to the airport bus terminal to catch the other busses to Pattaya?

Just wondering.[/QUOTE]Just to find out that a few minutes after departure the bus stops at the airport again.

For 1Ball and others who enjoy this series, here is this week's episode.


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0TfJtIUi8[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f1XSaqoTdo&feature=sub[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePRhDiq4k5k&feature=sub[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29W8LwdZOfQ&feature=sub[/url]

I'm going to be Pattaya with 2 wingmen for 7 nights from 16th November. We've not been to Thailand before-(I went to DR twice last year- Blackbeards. Which I definately recommend).

I, ve read back through Pattaya posts and have some ideas (so please don't flame me old stagers) but it would be really good if any kind posters in the know could give me their top recomended bar/s, club/s, whatever/s to visit when we are there.

Conversley any place they definately advise to avoid.

Many thanks

R

[QUOTE=Aslan]Question for the gentlemen of the forum:

I'm arriving in Thailand early December and I'm considering going directly to Pattaya instead of Bangkok. The problem is, I'm arriving at almost midnight and am not sure what my transportation options are at that time of night. Are there vans that go between the airport and Pattaya or will I have to get a taxi and how much? Usually I take a bus from Ekkamai to get there.

I also have a girls number I met on my last trip a few months ago, but I have been having trouble calling her from the U.S. even though I can call to Bangkok. I'm thinking there must be some adjustment in the prefix i need to make.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]Aslan,

I just got back from Pattaya the last bus from the airport is 9pm and the last bus from ekkamai is 10.30 pm so taxi is your only options.

Fast Eddie 48

I think the most seks places in Pattaya in the Soi 6 called the yoksad. Have many woman and can suck the phenis. Sometimes the big toe.

Care ful the condom.

Does anyone know if the Government run bus service has a website that has its timetables on there? Any help much appreciated.

I am going to be working in Bangkok at the end of the month and I am thinking of going to Patts for Halloween weekend. Does the bar fine go up for Halloween?

I was in Patts during some festival where everybody was putting mud on my face and blasting me with super soakers. It was fun, until that night, when go go's on Soi 8 where charging 1000B bar fines!!!

Unfortunately my cash flow is funky so I need this info to see how many days I'll stay in Patts (if I go at all)

DA

[QUOTE=Roy Stone]I'm going to be Pattaya with 2 wingmen for 7 nights from 16th November. We've not been to Thailand before-(I went to DR twice last year- Blackbeards. Which I definately recommend).

I, ve read back through Pattaya posts and have some ideas (so please don't flame me old stagers) but it would be really good if any kind posters in the know could give me their top recomended bar/s, club/s, whatever/s to visit when we are there.

Conversley any place they definately advise to avoid.

Many thanks

R[/QUOTE]

Patts is a small town so it is not hard to just explore. Find what you like a go with the flow. All the bars and go go clubs are the same so don't waste time trying to find a better price

Visit Soi 7, Soi 8

Soapy is a MUST - 2nd RD between Soi 3 and Soi 2

Walking St is no brainer - Happy A Go Go has the best girls, but it will be crowded

Report back and don't BS us because we will know :-)

[QUOTE=Dumbass]I am going to be working in Bangkok at the end of the month and I am thinking of going to Patts for Halloween weekend. Does the bar fine go up for Halloween?

I was in Patts during some festival where everybody was putting mud on my face and blasting me with super soakers. It was fun, until that night, when go go's on Soi 8 where charging 1000B bar fines!!!

Unfortunately my cash flow is funky so I need this info to see how many days I'll stay in Patts (if I go at all)

DA[/QUOTE]That will be Songkran. It is a very big holiday in Thailand when everybody parties, so suddenly demand exceeds supply and prices go up. Halloween is not such a big deal - it's obviously an imported festival so probably won't have any noticeable effect on prices. It will be party time in Pattaya so may be busier and more fun.

Excuse the spelling but I believe a few days after Halloween is Loy Kroytong something like 2nd or 5th of November?

LBM

Visiting Pattaya this weekend, has the high season stupidity started yet???

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Excuse the spelling but I believe a few days after Halloween is Loy Kroytong something like 2nd or 5th of November?

LBM[/QUOTE]True, I'd forgotten about Loy Krathong, but I've never been in Thailand when it's on so don't know what it's like. I think it is held on the first full moon of November?

The most popular festivals in early of the month November, is the Loy Krathong Festival. This festival is very welknown to Thai people and also foreigners. And it set during the weather is clear, on the full moon night, when the river is high over the country. There has an important meaning about "Loy Krathong", first, "Loy" means "to float" and "Krathong" means a lotus-shaped vessel made of banana leaves. The Krathong usually contains a candle, tree joss-sticks, some flowers and coins.

In the past, people believe that they offer thank to the Goddess of water. Thus, by moonlight, people light the candles and joss-sticks, make a wish and launch their Krathong on canals, rivers or even small ponds. It is believed that the Krathongs can carry away sins and bad luck, and the time to start the coming new year, tobe joyful, and happy as suffering are floated away.

On the night time of this festival before they place the Krathong on the water, let them drift away, there also has beauty Queen contest as an important hight light. But we call "The Noppamas Queen Contest" instead. Noppamas is a legendary figure from Sukhothai period in the past. It was said that "Noppamas" was a chief royal consort of a Sukhothai-King names "Lhe-thai". She may be the first person who invented and decorated Krathong in Thailand used for floating in the reiver on this occation. So, when the time come, in Bangkok, major places as hotels, amusement parks organise their Loy Krathong Festival and Krathong contest and also Queen Noppamas contest as major function. Fortunately, foreigners who stay in Thailand during this festival, can join the party and share happiness too.

This year it is on 21st of November
Enjoy
Lemon Tree

[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]The most popular festivals in early of the month November, is the Loy Krathong Festival.
This year it is on 21st of November
Enjoy
Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]

Interesting to read the history of Loy Kratong, but Lemon Tree, there seems to be different opinons when Loy Kratong is celebrated this year. I checked this up a couple of months ago and found out it occurs Monday November 2. I just googled it and there both dates occures. How sure are you about Nov 21?

TAT:s official site for Loy Kratong says Nov 2:

[url]http://www.loikrathong.net/eng/Activities_Thailand.html[/url]

This site says the same:

[url]http://www.thailandhighlight.com/Loy-Kratong-Festival.html[/url]

Here too:

[url]http://thailandlandofsmiles.com/2007/11/19/loy-kratong-festival-of-lights/[/url]

Sorry sorry sorry,

Dextro Sol, you are absolutely right.

in 2009 / 2552 Loy KLrathong is on 2nd of November,

in 2010 / 2553 it is on 21st of November.

Lemon Tree

[QUOTE=Lemon Tree]Sorry sorry sorry,

Dextro Sol, you are absolutely right.

in 2009 / 2552 Loy KLrathong is on 2nd of November,

in 2010 / 2553 it is on 21st of November.

Lemon Tree[/QUOTE]

Thank god you were wrong and i was not... I have planned to celebrate it at Jeps, Samed... Nov 2 so im lucky...

Tiger888

Thanks for the feedback.

So what you're saying is that the gov't bus actually leaves originally from the airport bus terminal, then it proceeds to the airport terminal, where it stops to pick up more customers?

And speaking of which, does the gov't bus to Pattaya that leaves from the airport terminal, departs/stops on Level 1 or Level 2?

My understanding is that it stops on Level 1, that is the "bus lobby" where busses stop and depart. But I've also read from other sites that the gov't bus to Pattaya leaves on Level 2.

Can anyone confirm on which Level exactly that the Pattaya-bound gov't bus leaves?

It's just that I'll be quite pressed for time, as my flight arrives at 4pm. I know I definitely don't have the time to take the free shuttle over to the airport bus terminal. I am hoping that I would be able to make the 5pm or 5:15pm departure of the gov't bus directly from the airport terminal. As well, don't want to be running from level to level looking for the right bus stop.

Thanks to all who responded.

[QUOTE=Dumbass]Patts is a small town so it is not hard to just explore. Find what you like a go with the flow. All the bars and go go clubs are the same so don't waste time trying to find a better price

Visit Soi 7, Soi 8

Soapy is a MUST - 2nd RD between Soi 3 and Soi 2

Walking St is no brainer - Happy A Go Go has the best girls, but it will be crowded

Report back and don't BS us because we will know :-)[/QUOTE]thanks Dum-thats useful -yep will report back no problem.

Rxx

Hi

I have recemtly tried out Devils Den. Its perfect for me with the website and stuff. So in 3 days in a row I have 4 girls visiting me at my hotel for 90 minute meetings. 2 girls in each meeting and I think I have tried the best girls in there.

Shortly said they offer what is said, but as said earlier but more PSE than GFE.

I can recommend this place easily, but as you can see on their webpage, they are a bit more expensive.

I am a kinky pervert, and I am looking for a slave for total domination, humiliation and as I can use as human toilet.

Does anyone have any experiences with such kind of girls in Pattaya or Bangkok? It would be highly appriciated.

[QUOTE=Roy Stone]I'm going to be Pattaya with 2 wingmen for 7 nights from 16th November. We've not been to Thailand before-(I went to DR twice last year- Blackbeards. Which I definately recommend).

I, ve read back through Pattaya posts and have some ideas (so please don't flame me old stagers) but it would be really good if any kind posters in the know could give me their top recomended bar/s, club/s, whatever/s to visit when we are there.

Conversley any place they definately advise to avoid.

Many thanks

R[/QUOTE]


Hi

Make sure you have booked a girl friendly hotel with no joiner fee.

Check out the Devils Den on Soi LK .

Go Gos Windmill, Baby Dolls, X zone, Beavers and WHats up never had a bad time in any of them.

Is there anything else you would like to know?

[QUOTE=Roy Stone]I'm going to be Pattaya with 2 wingmen for 7 nights from 16th November. We've not been to Thailand before-(I went to DR twice last year- Blackbeards. Which I definately recommend).

I, ve read back through Pattaya posts and have some ideas (so please don't flame me old stagers) but it would be really good if any kind posters in the know could give me their top recomended bar/s, club/s, whatever/s to visit when we are there.

Conversley any place they definately advise to avoid.

Many thanks

R[/QUOTE]


Hi,

I would recommend Airport and Babydoll gogos. Also stop by angelwitch to see the shows. Devils Den is also recommended. Needless to say there are many more places and I have not been to must of them.

I will be there from nov. 18th, so drop me a PM if you want to meet up.

Junior

Well, so I have finally visited Pattaya. Great expectations about it. Maybe too great. In fact I did not like it so much. But let us start from the beginning.

I was in Soi 6, at the Queen Victoria Inn. The room for 800 Baht was great and everything very nice, cheap breakfast included. A small part of England in a tropical area and the boss was very nice and helpful.

In Soi 6 there are 10, maybe 15 bars. Very few people around so the girls were very aggressive, which I do not like. Plenty of ladyboys which I like even less. Inside the bars there is absolutely nothing and the girls insist for short time in the bar. I never got it because I guessed that it was not so clean and because I considered quite stupid to go there when my hotel room was so close. I noticed very very few girls worth of attention. To be honest I saw some people who were living in my hotel with gorgeous girls but I never saw them in the bars around or in Beach Road or in the nearby area. So I have no idea where those lucky guys had found them. And I also saw some gentlemen with nice girls walking around in day time but, again, I have never seen girls of that level in my search. And, IMO, the 95% of the girls in the area were not pretty at all.

So, the first evening I had a walk in Beach Road and, at about where there is Al Capone Pizza or something like that, I found few girls offering massage, 300 full body. And the mamasan offered me the prettiest of all. So we went inside and she gave me a rather ordinary massage. At the end of it, no words, no nude, no groping, nothing, she just made me popping. I asked her about meeting later in my hotel but she asked for 2000 Bath which I considered too much. When I went to pay the lady asked me for 800. And I asked why, since the first request was for 300. And she told me about the happy ending. But I replied that I did not ask for it, nor the girl offered it or told me about extra money for it, she just did it. So we agreed on 500.

In the night I had a walk in Beach Road and I found not more than 6/8 ladies, all of them quite old and not pretty.

The following day I walked in Second Road. At the end of it I entered in Sabailee and Sabailand and another soapy whose name I do not remember. All of them very very close. Price was 1700 in two of them and 1600 in Sabailand. So In went in sabailand. Just few seconds sitting and watching the fish bowl and I saw a stunning beauty smiling at me. So, since the most beautiful also looked like the one most willing to come with me, I chose her. Her name is Paa, from Chang Mai, 32, with a son. Well, absolutely beautiful, sexy, nice, good English and very professional. To be picky the only, small, negative point is that she is too professional. I mean a bit cold even if she is great under any point of view. Another negative point is that she performed all covered and did not allow any anal fingering: "Go to a ladyboy if you like that", she said. But it was a very very nice 90 minutes fun.

The following day I got a girl from Halifax, if I remember well, anyway the last bar on the right before Beach Road. Absolute ordinary service. All covered, 300 for the bar and 700 for her, short time. Fifty minutes later she was already leaving me. Never found girls willing for LT, all of them insisted for ST.

I always had a walk along Beach Road in the night, where I found very few and not nice girls, and Second Street, where I had a look in the bars. Sometimes something decent but they asked for 2000. And I do not understand why I should pay 2000 or more with bar fine to have an ordinary FS, when for 1600 or 1700 I can have a 90 minutes soapy massage with FS included.

The (normal) massage center in Soi 6 and Beach Road is very nice, clean, good girls and 200/400 according to feet of oil massage.

So, IMHO, Angeles is by far much much better. For the prices, the quantity and the quality and the attitude of the girls. The only good point in Pattaya is that there is the seaside.

The only good point of this experience is that, when I saw what was the offer, I went to an internet point and tried to find a girl in a dating site, Single Thai or something like that. I chatted with few of them. And I found a girl of 26, who works as a condo saleswoman. Very very pretty and funny and cheerful. The first evening at dinner she asked me about my plans and I told he I was going to Chang Mai in few days. She replied she had never been there. So I invited her to go there with me. And she agreed, of course. So she asked for holidays and two days later we went to Chan Mai and visited the North and Doi Suthep and Lampang and Ayuttaya. She was a very nice partner. We had also good sex in the night. Nothing special but good. At the end of it, in BKK (I stayed there 4 days and I will write a report), she left and I gave her 2000 for 5 days together.

This was a good part, but Pattaya itself was really disappointing.

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I had to go back and see the milker again. After her and her friends performance last time (COF while her face is covered in milk) was incredible and a testament to what good service is. I have to admit I am a bit bored with the milker now but she will always be good for arranging anything I need for a small fee.

This time she arranged for a fresh off the farm girl to do a 3-some with us again. I was a bit hesitant as new girls never perform but rather sit their like stones and take the pounding. Lucky for me that the girl did not show up. The milker had another friend though and she arrived within minutes. She had a fantastic smile, nice dark skin and was as willing to please as the milker!

As I snapped photos I loved the contrast of their skin tones. Then I got down to work while filming it all. They even did a lesbian show for me. The both were 3 holers(would even assist each other as I pounded them anally), bj, milk flying everywhere-it was heaven. Listen to the finale-the milker filled a small glass and the dark skinned one got me to cum in the glass. Then they both drank it! Wow. Almost two hours of all of this! The cost? They only wanted 500 a piece. I gave them each 1k and they were overjoyed!

Thats the way it should be.

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]In Soi 6 there are 10, maybe 15 bars.[/QUOTE]More like 40-50.

Pattaya vs. Angeles City is one of those age-old questions that everyone has to decide for themselves. I've always thought of AC as a shithole -- in a nice kind of way of course -- but it's looking better and better the more commercial and over-developed Pattaya gets. We should just be thankful we have them both.

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]
The following day I got a girl from Halifax, if I remember well, anyway the last bar on the right before Beach Road. Absolute ordinary service. [/QUOTE]

I did a double-take on this one. Canadian girls on Beach Road?

Ah.... name of the bar. Got it. ;)

[QUOTE=Wendella]I did a double-take on this one. Canadian girls on Beach Road?

Ah.... name of the bar. Got it. ;)[/QUOTE]
Yes but this girl was born in Halifax.

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]Well, so I have finally visited Pattaya. Great expectations about it. Maybe too great. In fact I did not like it so much.

Sometimes something decent but they asked for 2000. And I do not understand why I should pay 2000 or more with bar fine to have an ordinary FS, [/size][/QUOTE]

Welcome to the new Pattaya! Generally lacking quality girls and overpriced.

There's good stuff to be had in Pattaya, but you got to go out, find it, and negotiate. Time consuming and exhausting, but worth it if you're willing to work for it!

[QUOTE=That Asshole]
Care ful the condom.[/QUOTE]

Welcome back - you've been missed. But do you mean be careful to use a condom, or that be careful or they'll force you to use one?

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002]Visiting Pattaya this weekend, has the high season stupidity started yet???[/QUOTE]
It seems that the first small wave has hit. Much bigger waves to come!

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]Well, so I have finally visited Pattaya. Great expectations about it. Maybe too great. In fact I did not like it so much. But let us start from the beginning.

I was in Soi 6, at the Queen Victoria Inn. The room for 800 Baht was great and everything very nice, cheap breakfast included. A small part of England in a tropical area and the boss was very nice and helpful.

In Soi 6 there are 10, maybe 15 bars. Very few people around so the girls were very aggressive, which I do not like. Plenty of ladyboys which I like even less. Inside the bars there is absolutely nothing and the girls insist for short time in the bar. I never got it because I guessed that it was not so clean and because I considered quite stupid to go there when my hotel room was so close. I noticed very very few girls worth of attention. To be honest I saw some people who were living in my hotel with gorgeous girls but I never saw them in the bars around or in Beach Road or in the nearby area. So I have no idea where those lucky guys had found them. And I also saw some gentlemen with nice girls walking around in day time but, again, I have never seen girls of that level in my search. And, IMO, the 95% of the girls in the area were not pretty at all.

So, the first evening I had a walk in Beach Road and, at about where there is Al Capone Pizza or something like that, I found few girls offering massage, 300 full body. And the mamasan offered me the prettiest of all. So we went inside and she gave me a rather ordinary massage. At the end of it, no words, no nude, no groping, nothing, she just made me popping. I asked her about meeting later in my hotel but she asked for 2000 Bath which I considered too much. When I went to pay the lady asked me for 800. And I asked why, since the first request was for 300. And she told me about the happy ending. But I replied that I did not ask for it, nor the girl offered it or told me about extra money for it, she just did it. So we agreed on 500.

In the night I had a walk in Beach Road and I found not more than 6/8 ladies, all of them quite old and not pretty.

The following day I walked in Second Road. At the end of it I entered in Sabailee and Sabailand and another soapy whose name I do not remember. All of them very very close. Price was 1700 in two of them and 1600 in Sabailand. So In went in sabailand. Just few seconds sitting and watching the fish bowl and I saw a stunning beauty smiling at me. So, since the most beautiful also looked like the one most willing to come with me, I chose her. Her name is Paa, from Chang Mai, 32, with a son. Well, absolutely beautiful, sexy, nice, good English and very professional. To be picky the only, small, negative point is that she is too professional. I mean a bit cold even if she is great under any point of view. Another negative point is that she performed all covered and did not allow any anal fingering: "Go to a ladyboy if you like that", she said. But it was a very very nice 90 minutes fun.

The following day I got a girl from Halifax, if I remember well, anyway the last bar on the right before Beach Road. Absolute ordinary service. All covered, 300 for the bar and 700 for her, short time. Fifty minutes later she was already leaving me. Never found girls willing for LT, all of them insisted for ST.

I always had a walk along Beach Road in the night, where I found very few and not nice girls, and Second Street, where I had a look in the bars. Sometimes something decent but they asked for 2000. And I do not understand why I should pay 2000 or more with bar fine to have an ordinary FS, when for 1600 or 1700 I can have a 90 minutes soapy massage with FS included.

The (normal) massage center in Soi 6 and Beach Road is very nice, clean, good girls and 200/400 according to feet of oil massage.

So, IMHO, Angeles is by far much much better. For the prices, the quantity and the quality and the attitude of the girls. The only good point in Pattaya is that there is the seaside.

The only good point of this experience is that, when I saw what was the offer, I went to an internet point and tried to find a girl in a dating site, Single Thai or something like that. I chatted with few of them. And I found a girl of 26, who works as a condo saleswoman. Very very pretty and funny and cheerful. The first evening at dinner she asked me about my plans and I told he I was going to Chang Mai in few days. She replied she had never been there. So I invited her to go there with me. And she agreed, of course. So she asked for holidays and two days later we went to Chan Mai and visited the North and Doi Suthep and Lampang and Ayuttaya. She was a very nice partner. We had also good sex in the night. Nothing special but good. At the end of it, in BKK (I stayed there 4 days and I will write a report), she left and I gave her 2000 for 5 days together.

This was a good part, but Pattaya itself was really disappointing.

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U complain about the girl's quality in coconut bar and soi 6 but never go look elsewhere...
Why the hell u don't go look around WS for stunning girls ?
So many place to pick up sexy and gorgeous girls !
What for a bargain !! 5 days with a girl for 2000 baht...limit cheap charlie IMO !But maybe that's was the deal.
But be sure no stunner will go with u for 400baht/day....that's maybe why u didn't spot one..

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]Well, so I have finally visited Pattaya. Great expectations about it. Maybe too great. In fact I did not like it so much. But let us start from the beginning.

I was in Soi 6, at the Queen Victoria Inn. The room for 800 Baht was great and everything very nice, cheap breakfast included. A small part of England in a tropical area and the boss was very nice and helpful.

In Soi 6 there are 10, maybe 15 bars. Very few people around so the girls were very aggressive, which I do not like. Plenty of ladyboys which I like even less. Inside the bars there is absolutely nothing and the girls insist for short time in the bar. I never got it because I guessed that it was not so clean and because I considered quite stupid to go there when my hotel room was so close. I noticed very very few girls worth of attention. To be honest I saw some people who were living in my hotel with gorgeous girls but I never saw them in the bars around or in Beach Road or in the nearby area. So I have no idea where those lucky guys had found them. And I also saw some gentlemen with nice girls walking around in day time but, again, I have never seen girls of that level in my search. And, IMO, the 95% of the girls in the area were not pretty at all.

So, the first evening I had a walk in Beach Road and, at about where there is Al Capone Pizza or something like that, I found few girls offering massage, 300 full body. And the mamasan offered me the prettiest of all. So we went inside and she gave me a rather ordinary massage. At the end of it, no words, no nude, no groping, nothing, she just made me popping. I asked her about meeting later in my hotel but she asked for 2000 Bath which I considered too much. When I went to pay the lady asked me for 800. And I asked why, since the first request was for 300. And she told me about the happy ending. But I replied that I did not ask for it, nor the girl offered it or told me about extra money for it, she just did it. So we agreed on 500.

In the night I had a walk in Beach Road and I found not more than 6/8 ladies, all of them quite old and not pretty.

The following day I walked in Second Road. At the end of it I entered in Sabailee and Sabailand and another soapy whose name I do not remember. All of them very very close. Price was 1700 in two of them and 1600 in Sabailand. So In went in sabailand. Just few seconds sitting and watching the fish bowl and I saw a stunning beauty smiling at me. So, since the most beautiful also looked like the one most willing to come with me, I chose her. Her name is Paa, from Chang Mai, 32, with a son. Well, absolutely beautiful, sexy, nice, good English and very professional. To be picky the only, small, negative point is that she is too professional. I mean a bit cold even if she is great under any point of view. Another negative point is that she performed all covered and did not allow any anal fingering: "Go to a ladyboy if you like that", she said. But it was a very very nice 90 minutes fun.

The following day I got a girl from Halifax, if I remember well, anyway the last bar on the right before Beach Road. Absolute ordinary service. All covered, 300 for the bar and 700 for her, short time. Fifty minutes later she was already leaving me. Never found girls willing for LT, all of them insisted for ST.

I always had a walk along Beach Road in the night, where I found very few and not nice girls, and Second Street, where I had a look in the bars. Sometimes something decent but they asked for 2000. And I do not understand why I should pay 2000 or more with bar fine to have an ordinary FS, when for 1600 or 1700 I can have a 90 minutes soapy massage with FS included.

The (normal) massage center in Soi 6 and Beach Road is very nice, clean, good girls and 200/400 according to feet of oil massage.

So, IMHO, Angeles is by far much much better. For the prices, the quantity and the quality and the attitude of the girls. The only good point in Pattaya is that there is the seaside.

The only good point of this experience is that, when I saw what was the offer, I went to an internet point and tried to find a girl in a dating site, Single Thai or something like that. I chatted with few of them. And I found a girl of 26, who works as a condo saleswoman. Very very pretty and funny and cheerful. The first evening at dinner she asked me about my plans and I told he I was going to Chang Mai in few days. She replied she had never been there. So I invited her to go there with me. And she agreed, of course. So she asked for holidays and two days later we went to Chan Mai and visited the North and Doi Suthep and Lampang and Ayuttaya. She was a very nice partner. We had also good sex in the night. Nothing special but good. At the end of it, in BKK (I stayed there 4 days and I will write a report), she left and I gave her 2000 for 5 days together.

This was a good part, but Pattaya itself was really disappointing.

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I would be really interested in more details on your travel to Chiang Mai and the other places. How did you get there from Pattaya etc. Sounds like that was the best part. thanks

It's starting to kick in and this is proof:

Was out tonight in Pattaya tonight and found a doable girl 19yo on beach road. She opened at 1000ST I countered at 500, three rounds back and forth. Wouldn't budge, so I walked.

Walked by an oil massage place off walking and spotted a cutie. Before jumping in and getting a massage (I was only in the mood for FS), I asked what kind of extras she could do. She said only hj. I asked what she charges for hj, she says 1000. I laughed and walked.

Met a cute hostess girl 18yo outside of gogo that calls customers inside. Took her inside and bought her drink, then tried to barfine her. She said no. Scarred of big farang cock. Tried to convince her but no go.

I finally landed a 18yo unmarked cutie for 1000ST on walking.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]It's starting to kick in and this is proof:

Was out tonight in Pattaya tonight and found a doable girl 19yo on beach road. She opened at 1000ST I countered at 500, three rounds back and forth. Wouldn't budge, so I walked.

Walked by an oil massage place off walking and spotted a cutie. Before jumping in and getting a massage (I was only in the mood for FS), I asked what kind of extras she could do. She said only HJ. I asked what she charges for HJ, she says 1000. I laughed and walked.

Met a cute hostess girl 18yo outside of gogo that calls customers inside. Took her inside and bought her drink, then tried to barfine her. She said no. Scarred of big farang cock. Tried to convince her but no go.

I finally landed a 18yo unmarked cutie for 1000ST on walking.[/QUOTE]Unmarked? What do you mean?

[QUOTE=Showdown]I had to go back and see the milker again. After her and her friends performance last time (COF while her face is covered in milk) was incredible and a testament to what good service is. I have to admit I am a bit bored with the milker now but she will always be good for arranging anything I need for a small fee.

This time she arranged for a fresh off the farm girl to do a 3-some with us again. I was a bit hesitant as new girls never perform but rather sit their like stones and take the pounding. Lucky for me that the girl did not show up. The milker had another friend though and she arrived within minutes. She had a fantastic smile, nice dark skin and was as willing to please as the milker!

As I snapped photos I loved the contrast of their skin tones. Then I got down to work while filming it all. They even did a lesbian show for me. The both were 3 holers(would even assist each other as I pounded them anally), bj, milk flying everywhere-it was heaven. Listen to the finale-the milker filled a small glass and the dark skinned one got me to cum in the glass. Then they both drank it! Wow. Almost two hours of all of this! The cost? They only wanted 500 a piece. I gave them each 1k and they were overjoyed!

Thats the way it should be.[/QUOTE]Better to cum directly in their mouth, than in the glass!

[QUOTE=Atlante18]Unmarked? What do you mean?[/QUOTE]
No tattoos.

Showdown :

Would not mind to meet that lady.

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Nice smile as you say, and nice rack to.

Thanks for pictures.

Goteborg

[QUOTE=Betong]More like 40-50.

Pattaya vs. Angeles City is one of those age-old questions that everyone has to decide for themselves. I've always thought of AC as a shithole.- in a nice kind of way of course.- but it's looking better and better the more commercial and over-developed Pattaya gets. We should just be thankful we have them both.[/QUOTE]Yes, Pattaya vs. Angeles City is an age-old question. Another good point for AC is that everybody speaks good English there, while in Pattaya I could not understand the few who say to speak it. Correct, too commercial and over-developed area and too aggressive girls.

[QUOTE=Wendella]I did a double-take on this one. Canadian girls on Beach Road?

Ah.... name of the bar. Got it. ;)[/QUOTE]Yes, Halifax is the name of the bar.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Welcome to the new Pattaya! Generally lacking quality girls and overpriced.

There's good stuff to be had in Pattaya, but you got to go out, find it, and negotiate. Time consuming and exhausting, but worth it if you're willing to work for it! [/QUOTE]I see, maybe my mistake was to have to high expectations. I am quite sure that there is good stuff somewhere in Pattaya. But the language is a real problem, the first time you are there it is not so easy to know the places and be sure that I walked quite a lot. Negotiate? I do not like it. First because I think that a girl to do that job should be happy of her fare. Second, if she is so stupid or so greedy to over ask, well, I lose my enthusiasm for her. IMHO it is nice when she asks for a fair price and than the service is good and so you tip her.

[QUOTE=Marteau]you complain about the girl's quality in coconut bar and soi 6 but never go look elsewhere.

Why the hell you don't go look around WS for stunning girls?

So many place to pick up sexy and gorgeous girls!

What for a bargain! 5 days with a girl for 2000 baht. Limit cheap charlie IMO! But maybe that's was the deal.

But be sure no stunner will go with you for 400baht/day. That's maybe why you didn't spot one.[/QUOTE]Sorry, not true. I went anywhere my legs, my time, my information, my maps and the hints of the people I talked too carried me. I do not know what the coconut bars are. I have been in Soi 6, Beach Road, Walking street, Second road and so on and so on. I went to WS but no stunning girls in the time I spent there. If there are so many places to pick up sexy and gorgeous girls please name them since I have found none.

Five days with a girl for 2000 baht. Maybe you did not read what I wrote. She was not a WG but a normal girl I dated with thanks to a dating site. She was very happy to travel for the first time in her Country, to relax, to have holidays and good time. We never spoke of money. She did not lose money from her job. And it was my idea to give her some tip after the few presents I bought for her in the many day or night markets we visited here and there.

I do not think to be a cheap Charlie. And I never thought to have a stunning WG for 400 price. Yet I consider 2000 – what I was asked by girls I consider just ordinary. For ST not good for me. And not good either learn that LT was almost everywhere not available. If I have to go to Pattaya to have basic sex with an ordinary girl, ST, all covered for 2000 I stay at home where I can have everything I like with a stunner for 4000.

Btw, the girl who came with me was simply gorgeous. But nor a WG, so it was just a matter of luck (or of my charm? ) if she decided to come with me. If she would have not had a look at her mail that day, for sure I would have gone to Chang Mai alone and unhappy.

SE

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]
So I have no idea where those lucky guys had found them. And I also saw some gentlemen with nice girls walking around in day time but, again, I have never seen girls of that level in my search. And, IMO, the 95% of the girls in the area were not pretty at all.[/QUOTE]

I agree the quality has dropped off since my last vist a couple years ago. I attribute it to it being low season last month. I walked Beach rd and second street during the day looking for my "type", bigger than usual tits or just outright sexy. I only found two or three with those quals.


[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]

And I do not understand why I should pay 2000 or more with bar fine to have an ordinary FS, when for 1600 or 1700 I can have a 90 minutes soapy massage with FS included.
[/QUOTE]

Seems to me LT with 3 pops and a lill companionship is the better deal, as long as the girl is acting okay. Just a matter of pref I guess...

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]Well, so I have finally visited Pattaya. Great expectations about it. Maybe too great. In fact I did not like it so much. But let us start from the beginning.

I was in Soi 6, at the Queen Victoria Inn. The room for 800 Baht was great and everything very nice, cheap breakfast included. A small part of England in a tropical area and the boss was very nice and helpful.

In Soi 6 there are 10, maybe 15 bars. Very few people around so the girls were very aggressive, which I do not like. Plenty of ladyboys which I like even less. Inside the bars there is absolutely nothing and the girls insist for short time in the bar. I never got it because I guessed that it was not so clean and because I considered quite stupid to go there when my hotel room was so close. I noticed very very few girls worth of attention. To be honest I saw some people who were living in my hotel with gorgeous girls but I never saw them in the bars around or in Beach Road or in the nearby area. So I have no idea where those lucky guys had found them. And I also saw some gentlemen with nice girls walking around in day time but, again, I have never seen girls of that level in my search. And, IMO, the 95% of the girls in the area were not pretty at all.

So, the first evening I had a walk in Beach Road and, at about where there is Al Capone Pizza or something like that, I found few girls offering massage, 300 full body. And the mamasan offered me the prettiest of all. So we went inside and she gave me a rather ordinary massage. At the end of it, no words, no nude, no groping, nothing, she just made me popping. I asked her about meeting later in my hotel but she asked for 2000 Bath which I considered too much. When I went to pay the lady asked me for 800. And I asked why, since the first request was for 300. And she told me about the happy ending. But I replied that I did not ask for it, nor the girl offered it or told me about extra money for it, she just did it. So we agreed on 500.

In the night I had a walk in Beach Road and I found not more than 6/8 ladies, all of them quite old and not pretty.

The following day I walked in Second Road. At the end of it I entered in Sabailee and Sabailand and another soapy whose name I do not remember. All of them very very close. Price was 1700 in two of them and 1600 in Sabailand. So In went in sabailand. Just few seconds sitting and watching the fish bowl and I saw a stunning beauty smiling at me. So, since the most beautiful also looked like the one most willing to come with me, I chose her. Her name is Paa, from Chang Mai, 32, with a son. Well, absolutely beautiful, sexy, nice, good English and very professional. To be picky the only, small, negative point is that she is too professional. I mean a bit cold even if she is great under any point of view. Another negative point is that she performed all covered and did not allow any anal fingering: "Go to a ladyboy if you like that", she said. But it was a very very nice 90 minutes fun.

The following day I got a girl from Halifax, if I remember well, anyway the last bar on the right before Beach Road. Absolute ordinary service. All covered, 300 for the bar and 700 for her, short time. Fifty minutes later she was already leaving me. Never found girls willing for LT, all of them insisted for ST.

I always had a walk along Beach Road in the night, where I found very few and not nice girls, and Second Street, where I had a look in the bars. Sometimes something decent but they asked for 2000. And I do not understand why I should pay 2000 or more with bar fine to have an ordinary FS, when for 1600 or 1700 I can have a 90 minutes soapy massage with FS included.

The (normal) massage center in Soi 6 and Beach Road is very nice, clean, good girls and 200/400 according to feet of oil massage.

So, IMHO, Angeles is by far much much better. For the prices, the quantity and the quality and the attitude of the girls. The only good point in Pattaya is that there is the seaside.

The only good point of this experience is that, when I saw what was the offer, I went to an internet point and tried to find a girl in a dating site, Single Thai or something like that. I chatted with few of them. And I found a girl of 26, who works as a condo saleswoman. Very very pretty and funny and cheerful. The first evening at dinner she asked me about my plans and I told he I was going to Chang Mai in few days. She replied she had never been there. So I invited her to go there with me. And she agreed, of course. So she asked for holidays and two days later we went to Chan Mai and visited the North and Doi Suthep and Lampang and Ayuttaya. She was a very nice partner. We had also good sex in the night. Nothing special but good. At the end of it, in BKK (I stayed there 4 days and I will write a report), she left and I gave her 2000 for 5 days together.

This was a good part, but Pattaya itself was really disappointing.

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I will be in Pattaya (and Bangkok) for a few days next week. wrt: the mongering I pretty much know what I'm doing (not my first trip), but I never seem to have great restaurant experiences.

So I am looking for Pattaya restaurant recommendations, specifically:
- great breakfasts
- good "hole in the wall" restaurants
- great Thai food
- anything else you want to share

Note: I most eat alone, reading a book, so places that accommodates solo-dining are preferred.

Thanks,

U2004

[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Hi

Make sure you have booked a girl friendly hotel with no joiner fee.

Check out the Devils Den on Soi LK .

Go Gos Windmill, Baby Dolls, X zone, Beavers and WHats up never had a bad time in any of them.

Is there anything else you would like to know?[/QUOTE]Thanks Thai Learner. I am in Areca Lodge and my friends in LK Metropole-my research said these are both girl friendly? Not sure about joiner fee?

One thing not seen mentioned, are mosquitoes much of problem in Pattaya in November. Do you know? Having fair skin these bastards always seem to target me. Will take repellents etc.

Cheers Rxx

[QUOTE=Junior]Hi,

I would recommend Airport and Babydoll gogos. Also stop by angelwitch to see the shows. Devils Den is also recommended. Needless to say there are many more places and I have not been to must of them.

I will be there from nov. 18th, so drop me a PM if you want to meet up.

Junior[/QUOTE]Hi Junior,

Thanks the tips, I appreciate it.

Be good to meet up. Unfortunately found can't pm at moment as didn't pay subs yet.

We are 3 guys from england in 50s. I am in Areca Lodge my friends in LK Metropole

Cheers,

Roystone

[QUOTE]The only good point of this experience is that, when I saw what was the offer, I went to an internet point and tried to find a girl in a dating site, Single Thai or something like that. I chatted with few of them. And I found a girl of 26, who works as a condo saleswoman. Very very pretty and funny and cheerful. The first evening at dinner she asked me about my plans and I told he I was going to Chang Mai in few days. She replied she had never been there. So I invited her to go there with me. And she agreed, of course. So she asked for holidays and two days later we went to Chan Mai and visited the North and Doi Suthep and Lampang and Ayuttaya. She was a very nice partner. We had also good sex in the night. Nothing special but good. At the end of it, in BKK (I stayed there 4 days and I will write a report), she left and I gave her 2000 for 5 days together.

This was a good part, but Pattaya itself was really disappointing.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Care to share the name of the lady you went with... Im due to meet a lady in BKK in a few days who was also a condo saleslady, says shes 23....also told me that shes never been to Chiang Mai.

(Note, Ive had her as a freebie before so maybe its not same...bu we all know women are about as truthful as we guys.. lol

[QUOTE=SmartEuropean]Sorry, not true. I went anywhere my legs, my time, my information, my maps and the hints of the people I talked too carried me. I do not know what the coconut bars are. I have been in Soi 6, Beach Road, Walking street, Second road and so on and so on. I went to WS but no stunning girls in the time I spent there. If there are so many places to pick up sexy and gorgeous girls please name them since I have found none.

Five days with a girl for 2000 baht. Maybe you did not read what I wrote. She was not a WG but a normal girl I dated with thanks to a dating site. She was very happy to travel for the first time in her Country, to relax, to have holidays and good time. We never spoke of money. She did not lose money from her job. And it was my idea to give her some tip after the few presents I bought for her in the many day or night markets we visited here and there.

I do not think to be a cheap Charlie. And I never thought to have a stunning WG for 400 price. Yet I consider 2000 – what I was asked by girls I consider just ordinary. For ST not good for me. And not good either learn that LT was almost everywhere not available. If I have to go to Pattaya to have basic sex with an ordinary girl, ST, all covered for 2000 I stay at home where I can have everything I like with a stunner for 4000.

Btw, the girl who came with me was simply gorgeous. But nor a WG, so it was just a matter of luck (or of my charm? ) if she decided to come with me. If she would have not had a look at her mail that day, for sure I would have gone to Chang Mai alone and unhappy.

SE[/QUOTE]

The concensus is that you f*cked over a sweet girl by giving only 2kBaht after banging her untold amount of times for a week straight. A few trinkets and food money granted, but wtf, you scored.

Actually, after I RTFF, I gather that SOI 6 and that area is actually for the rejects in Pattaya. It is the retirement area for the queens at top of the game years past. WS is for young up and coming talent. That is not gospel, cos there are some hotties there too, but they go to SOI 6 when they wind down, right guys?

Also ,use the net. Sweet young talent there too. Camfrog,Thailovelinks,ect.
You wont have to walk so much.

First visit is always hit or miss. You don't really know shit yet! How can you just aim your shotgun at this great monger city? It sounds like you got most of your impression of P from the Beach rd talent. I'm told even famous Na is unrecognizable cos she so out of shape.

I'm just a happy monger glad to be able to escape the BS of the dating scene at home.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]
Actually, after I RTFF, I gather that SOI 6 and that area is actually for the rejects in Pattaya. It is the retirement area for the queens at top of the game years past. WS is for young up and coming talent. That is not gospel, cos there are some hotties there too, but they go to SOI 6 when they wind down, right guys?

[/QUOTE]

Not 100% correct.....many girls just starting the game begin here.....but you have to be quick to find them and fuck them......they get sponsored quickly if they are spectacular.....and you never get to see them.....but you do get to see the retirees and ladyboys all the time.

[QUOTE=Utopian2004]I will be in Pattaya (and Bangkok) for a few days next week. wrt: the mongering I pretty much know what I'm doing (not my first trip), but I never seem to have great restaurant experiences.

So I am looking for Pattaya restaurant recommendations, specifically:
- great breakfasts
- good "hole in the wall" restaurants
- great Thai food
- anything else you want to share

Note: I most eat alone, reading a book, so places that accommodates solo-dining are preferred.

Thanks,

U2004[/QUOTE]


The great hole in the wall for Thai food is on Soi Buakhao......just up from the intersection with Soi LK Metro....on the right side if you are facing north.....little joint with ladys cooking at the open front and a tile interior with home cooking and good price......

[QUOTE=Utopian2004]
- great breakfasts
- good "hole in the wall" restaurants
- great Thai food
- anything else you want to share[/QUOTE]

Breakfast - Continental: Domicil restaurant Second rd between Soi 7 and Soi 8
English: Crazy Dave's on soi Chiaphum. Very cheap (90 baht I think).

Hole in the Wall - only hole in the wall places will be good. The most important rule - [i]Don't eat Thai food anywhere you see other whiteys eating[/i]. Best Thai food in Pattaya is 1) at the corner of Soi Bukao and Pattaya Klang from 1:00 am to 5:00 am, and oddly enough the second best is at roughly that same location, just a few meters further from Bukao, during regular dinner hours. Different people set up at different times though (kind of curry on the street type places). A large, delicious repast will cost you only 50-80 baht. (Please, brothers, do not bother decent Thai restauranteurs or their clientele if you are drunk, loud, or cannot speak Thai sufficient to order. If you are any of those things, go to Kiss Restaurant and get bad food - they're used to dealing with that crowd.).

Good German food generally: 1) Domicil, 2) the Beirstubie or Beirstuble near the beach end of Soi 7, on the left side as you walk towards the beach. The one with the large German owner with big sideburns and bald head. Both will run in the 200-300 baht range.

Good cheap French food: The little place on Soi Yamoto just down from the beach on the left as you walk away from the beach. Opposite the big fancy brew pub monstrosity there. Can't remember the name but they have nice set menus for 200-300 baht.

the Beirstubie or Beirstuble

Opebo,
I forgive you :-))))
in the same way you would forgive me when I write in my poor German-English language.
I don't know that location, but - in my opinion this bar can be named only "Bierstüble".
That is deep South German dialect (Bavarian). But doesn't matter, such small mistakes make this - so serious - reports a little bit smiling.
Enjoy
Lemon Tree

[QUOTE=Utopian2004]I will be in Pattaya (and Bangkok) for a few days next week. wrt: the mongering I pretty much know what I'm doing (not my first trip), but I never seem to have great restaurant experiences.

So I am looking for Pattaya restaurant recommendations, specifically:
- great breakfasts
- good "hole in the wall" restaurants
- great Thai food
- anything else you want to share

Note: I most eat alone, reading a book, so places that accommodates solo-dining are preferred.

Thanks,

U2004[/QUOTE]


There is a great hole in the place on soi buckehow between soi lk and soi Diana inn it is on the opposite side of the road from lk & Diana Inn.

There are many places for breakfast but another to mention is the little cafe in the shopping arcade opposite mike shopping mall next to soi diana inn .

[QUOTE=Roy Stone]Thanks Thai Learner. I am in Areca Lodge and my friends in LK Metropole-my research said these are both girl friendly? Not sure about joiner fee?

One thing not seen mentioned, are mosquitoes much of problem in Pattaya in November. Do you know? Having fair skin these bastards always seem to target me. Will take repellents etc.

Cheers Rxx[/QUOTE]


Both are GF but the Areca Lodge does charge if you bring more than 1 girl back together. I think it is about 200bht per additional girl but you will need to check with them.

I have never been in November but I always take or buy repellent they are sneaky bastards.

[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Both are GF but the Areca Lodge does charge if you bring more than 1 girl back together. I think it is about 200bht per additional girl but you will need to check with them.

I have never been in November but I always take or buy repellent they are sneaky bastards.[/QUOTE]

There is even a note in the reception saying so. Wonder if it was not 300? Double BF. Also worth noting is that the same sign says no girls below 20 years old.

Hi Roy Stone, I have just returned from Pattaya, first half of the week was very wet and streets where flooded, second half much drier and weather gets good in November. I am a fair haired and fair skinned Brit, the little Mossies love meat from the UK nearly as much as Issan bar girls, I got bit to fuck last week very itchy thankfully the itch is only 48 hours unlike some bites which last 4-5 days also I didn't use any repellent. You need to drink lots of Singha or Chang the little bastards will only bite you once, after that they can't fly straight and keep crashing into walls.


May the force be with you.

Visiting Pattaya w45 for the first time staying at Holiday Inn for work. Presumably not a girl friendly hotel ? If not, considering relocating to girl friendly hotel after duty completed at end of the week. Would very much appreciate good advice from experienced fellows ?

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Hi Roy Stone, I have just returned from Pattaya, first half of the week was very wet and streets where flooded, second half much drier and weather gets good in November. I am a fair haired and fair skinned Brit, the little Mossies love meat from the UK nearly as much as Issan bar girls, I got bit to fuck last week very itchy thankfully the itch is only 48 hours unlike some bites which last 4-5 days also I didn't use any repellent. You need to drink lots of Singha or Chang the little bastards will only bite you once, after that they can't fly straight and keep crashing into walls.

May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]Best anti mosi thing. Tiger balm. Put some on after being bitten , and it takes the sting away instantly. Also repels all others for hours afterwards. Way better than all those other expensive non functioning repellants. Give it a try.

let me start out my trip report by telling you a bit about myself. i’m a middle aged american guy. as business takes me to europe a few times a year, i would normally stop in germany at the fkk and sauna clubs. german sex clubs are certainly more expensive than pattaya, but less so than any mongering options in the good old usa. german clubs are more sexually intense, with nudity and some public sex. the selection of women is more international in german sex clubs. however, a week in german sex clubs can get boring as there are only so many times you can fuck in a day, and after eight hours or so, even staring at naked women can get old. the thing i am growing to love about pattaya is it’s a fun place to hang even when you aren’t fucking.

a couple of other things about me. i’m not looking for a surrogate girlfriend, but rather prefer a succession of sleazy encounters. i’m a butterfly. i prefer to sleep alone as with the time difference and jet lag, i need sleep if i want to have power. i did long time twice with a free lancer first and a bar girl second, but in the end i had better luck with short times with gogo girls.

another thing is my eyesight is not good. also, a beer or two and my visual standards go right out the window. i looked with my glasses on at a picture i took of a bar girl i bf’ed and thought to myself “what was i thinking”.

i prefer a woman that knows what she is doing with a cock over shy farm fresh girl any day. did i mention i really, really like a good blow job? i’m a lazy bastard and few things in life are more enjoyable than sitting back and letting a talented lady work her magic with her mouth on my clock. it seems many thai women think a blow job consists of licking and kissing the tip. i place a premium on a woman that knows a blowjob involves taking my cock and putting it deep in her mouth and sucking vigorously up and down on it. i also place a premium on attitude over looks.

anyway, this was my third trip to thailand and second to pattaya. i like to base myself in soi lk metro for a couple of reasons. one, it’s nice to be able to walk no more than a 20 meters and stop in for a blow job at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. second, there is a nice selection of no hassle bars with friendly but not overly pushy girls. the fact that devils den was right next door was an added bonus. i stayed at pasadena lodge, which is slightly pricier than some of the guesthouses on soi lk metro, but the rooms are very nice. no problem fitting three in the shower, as long as two are thai girls. although their website said they charge a joiner fee for a second girl, i brought back two girls three times and was never charged. they always took the girls ids, and logged them in a book. the whole thing felt very secure. the place seems to cater to french mongers. the link is below, recommended:

[url]http://www.hotelpasadenalodge.com/[/url]

i also really liked billabong right across the street. great place to relax and have a beer. nice girls to hang around with. good breakfast. link below:

[url]http://www.billabonghotel.com/[/url]

finally, a great place to go for a beer and a bite before hitting the walking street gogos is pattaya beer garden. when i was there in february, there was not much of a freelancer scene. now, pbr has a pretty good selection of free lancers.

[url]http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/[/url]

i’m going to plug one more business. patrick’s belgian restaurant, just off of 2nd road near soi diana has great hearty food. highly recommended:

[url]http://www.patricksr...ya.com/menu.htm[/url]

i arrive in pattaya after ~20 hours of travelling. car gets a lost trying to find soi lk metro, but i eventually direct him to my hotel. rudyk, who i agreed to meetup with is waiting for me. after a quick shower we head down to billabong for a beer. i excuse myself for a quick “welcome to thailand” blow job at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. i ended up going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] almost every day for a post breakfast blowjob. if you like women that know how to suck cock and aren’t too picky about looks, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is a pretty risk free proposition. names i remember as being good were mon, gee and porn. gee actually had me hold her by the sides of her head and vigorously face fuck her. 700 baht. i set up a sliding scale for tips. if the girl didn’t let me cum in her mouth, no tip. if the girl let me cum in her mouth 100 baht. if she had to work especially hard to extract her reward and she did so with no complaints, 200 baht. if she swallowed, 300 baht.

only complaint was they were obviously all trained on a program. always started out licking my right ball, then my left ball, then the right of the shaft, then the left of my shaft. some tongue flicking on the tip of my cock and then down to business. what if i wanted my left ball licked first? anyway, i let one know just get down to business. after that, all of the girls just got down to business. clearly if you show up every day, the girls talk about how you like your blow job.

i would try to be clean when i went into [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] as i think you get better service than if you are all sweaty. on visit, after sitting down, the girl did an exaggerated sniff of my cock and balls and smiled and said “you shower?” i smiled and nodded. she dispensed with the moist towelette cleanup and just dove right in.

anyway, when i returned to billabong, rudyk had a thai girl on his side. they both laughed and said something to the effect, “that didn’t take long”. the girl on his side was “ait”. she wasn’t the prettiest thai girl, but had a really great attitude. over the course of the trip, the girls at billabong kept track of my comings and goings, both who i brought back to the room and when i dropped in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. at least they didn’t show up til 4pm, so i could sneak in devils den in the afternoon.

after a beer, rudyk and i went to the beer garden. i had also made plans to meet canerk at the beer garden. rudyk had a regular girl at the beer garden. one of her friends was cute enough and i wasn’t thinking real clearly so i hooked up with her without really vetting her. rudyk and his girl, canerk and me and my girl decided to go visit the gogos. we visited angelwitch, which has a good show for couples. since i had only just arrived, i decide to take my new friend back to the hotel early. typical thai girl blowjob with the absolute minimum mouth to cock contact. also a starfish. now to be fair, we really did not have good chemistry going between us. repeat performance in the morning. i had to tell her i needed more sleep after breakfast to get rid of her. gave her 1000baht lt fee. annoying thing is my hotel told me she came by the next day looking for me. decided to lay off the free lancers after that.

after that, i usually spent my evenings wandering the gogos and barfining girls from there. i like the gogos over beer bars for choosing girls. first, no nasty surprises when you get back to the room. what you see is what you get. second, i tend to be generous with the lady drinks if the girls are hands on. i’m going to give my own personal ranking of gogos.

1. windmill
2. x-zone
3. airport
4. what’s up

windmill i bf’d two girls on four separate nights. two of the girls i repeated with. partied like a rock star in the club itself. great time every night. i went to windmill my last night in pattaya. i picked one of the girls i had taken before and told her to select a friend, but she had to be very good at smoking. the girl she chose was excellent at it and even swallowed in the end. i have to apologize to the other monger i stole her away from. i just can’t say enough about windmill. i love the place. i may have to buy it and move to pattaya.

[url]http://www.windmillpattaya.com/[/url]

x-zone did it for me because i liked the dirty vibe. i won’t go into details, but a very dirty show. as i was watching the show, i spied a pretty girl with the largest, nicest natural breasts i have ever seen on a thai girl. they were very big, perfectly round and had a nice natural sag to them. she caught me checking her, smiled and soon she was in my lap. her name is ming. pretty face and the most amazing body. i barfined her twice. i took this picture of her on my phone. sexiest girl i have been with in thailand.

in both windmill and x-zone i never discussed price with any of the women and gave them each 1000 baht for short time plus a tip. no issues.

[url]http://www.xzonepattaya.com/[/url]

airport always had a nice vibe to it and friendly hands on girls. i think the place is more focused on short time as there was a constant stream of girls leaving with a guy and another stream of girls coming back to the bar alone. i just wish they would turn down the damn music.

what’s up gets points for the bottle show, but i didn’t find the girls as interactive as the previous three gogos.

i visited devil’s den twice in the afternoon. here’s hoping it returns as it is a guaranteed good time. i like a sleazy girl or two and dd delivered. they will try their hardest to get you off as many times as possible.

i also had a massage and bj over on soi honey inn. nothing to write home about, but i suspect you need to invest some time finding the best girls. still, the massage was relaxing.

lastly, i did bf ait from billabong long time one night. she had a good attitude and was funny. she know upfront i am a butterfly and was total cool. did a bit of a double date with an english monger and his girl. ait was good company, but unfortunately childbirth was not kind to her body. that said, she markets herself well as she was probably the most fun of any of the girls in billabong. and if i wanted to come down for a last beer or two before sleeping after short timing a couple of girls from windmill she would quite happily snuggle up to you while you enjoyed your last beer of the day. i did take a picture of her but when i looked at it with my glasses on, i thought to myself what was i thinking. then i remembered she market herself well in that she was always smiling and laughing. that counts for something.

can’t wait until my next trip. right now i’m scheduled for the week before christmas, but i may push it back until january or february.

ming from x-zone. i can't praise how she lookes without her clothes highly enough

[QUOTE=Xdentx]I would be really interested in more details on your travel to Chiang Mai and the other places. How did you get there from Pattaya etc. Sounds like that was the best part. thanks[/QUOTE]Well, when I was on the taxi with my lady to go to Bkk airport from Pattaya, the driver asked where we were going. To CM I replied and he offered to drive us there. I told him that we were going to take two planes ticket for about 7000/8000 B (I did not buy them yet since the decision to go there with the lady was very unexpected). So I guessed he could not be competitive. But he said that by car was better and we also had a taxi driver there to visit the nearby. We went on discussing and, after some time, we agreed for 8.500 for the driver, food and sleeping included and also the driving around. It was a good deal for him as well since his family is from that area so he could stay with them after job and make some money at the same time. We needed 9 hours to be there (much more than he said). We went to sleep to a nice hotel few minutes from the night market. First day we visited everything in CM. Second day we visited Doi Suthep, the National Park and the Zoo. The third day we went to Lampang and visited the famous monastery in the morning there and then we drove till Ayuttaya. We slept in a big but dirty hotel I do not remember the name, not near the monuments. The fourth day we visited Ayuttaya. In late afternoon we moved to Bkk. I went to my hotel and the driver took my lady back to Pattaya. Since he was a good boy I tipped him 2.000. We had breakfast in hotels (about 1.000 per night for 2 people breakfast included), quick lunch near the monuments and dinner here and there. Every evening a nice walk in the CM night market which is really great and every night some sex with my beauty. Who was also very helpful in going around, finding the places, talking to the waiters and so on. About the monuments we visited all the ones mentioned in any tourist guide, they are so many it is not good to list them here. So a very nice time indeed. Hope to have fulfilled your request. SE

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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]I agree the quality has dropped off since my last vist a couple years ago. I attribute it to it being low season last month. I walked Beach rd and second street during the day looking for my "type", bigger than usual tits or just outright sexy. I only found two or three with those quals.

Seems to me LT with 3 pops and a lill companionship is the better deal, as long as the girl is acting okay. Just a matter of pref I guess...[/QUOTE]The point is that I did not find any girl for LT. All of them insisted for ST and many to have it in the bar rooms. Which I always refused.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11]If you would have gone to walking street you would find those hot chicks that were in your hotel with other guys.[/QUOTE]Believe me, I went there, but, in the time I spend there, I did not find any hot chicks.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Care to share the name of the lady you went with... Im due to meet a lady in BKK in a few days who was also a condo saleslady, says shes 23....also told me that shes never been to Chiang Mai.

(Note, Ive had her as a freebie before so maybe its not same...bu we all know women are about as truthful as we guys.. lol[/QUOTE]Sorry but, since she is not a WG I do not think proper to share her name here. What I can add is that she said to be 26 and that we went to CM so now she cannot say she has never been there.

Was just reading a few of the posts complaining about the quality of the women. You have to remember we are just getting into the busy time of year. I am a regular having gone there for years. Why should a good looker bother hanging around when there are no customers? I am still in the US but from talking to the ladies I know (that are now friends) it has been horrible for customers the last few months (probably due to recession). They mentioned that they are already beginning to see a pickup of number of falang. So point is the better fresher ones should be arriving soon so do not worry. I have also noticed when a new prime piece comes to town she is often snatched up quickly. I made a quick visit in June and agree the girls were at the poorest. What you mostly get are the girls that are just hoping to squeek by on salary (about 3,000B per month/28 days/12hours per day) and ladydrinks. Now returning in 2 weeks for 3 month visit. One guy posted about poor pickins on Soi 6. What do you expect? Place is the last resort for most of them before a guess going back to the rice fields never having found a sponsor. Girls on walking street too expensive during busy season. Best way is to just walk around and spy one you like at one of the bars and then go in and start talking. If seem too pushy walk away before you have too much invested. I always suggest buying street food for them over ladydrinks. By the way can not remember name of beer bar but it is the last bar on beach rd before getting to tourist police on Soi 9. Run by Chinese. I think ladydrinks only 50B and barfine only 150B and usually loaded with all type of caliber girls from ugly to down right beautiful. Anyway good luck. A lot of my previous posts supply good info for newbies. Do not bother posting that much.

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]The concensus is that you f*cked over a sweet girl by giving only 2kBaht after banging her untold amount of times for a week straight. A few trinkets and food money granted, but wtf, you scored.

Actually, after I RTFF, I gather that SOI 6 and that area is actually for the rejects in Pattaya. It is the retirement area for the queens at top of the game years past. WS is for young up and coming talent. That is not gospel, cos there are some hotties there too, but they go to SOI 6 when they wind down, right guys?

Also ,use the net. Sweet young talent there too. Camfrog,Thailovelinks,ect.
You wont have to walk so much.

First visit is always hit or miss. You don't really know shit yet! How can you just aim your shotgun at this great monger city? It sounds like you got most of your impression of P from the Beach rd talent. I'm told even famous Na is unrecognizable cos she so out of shape.

I'm just a happy monger glad to be able to escape the BS of the dating scene at home.[/QUOTE]I am sorry, I am not mother language so I do not understand if you agree or complain about my behaviour (anyway, both of them are welcome, no irony). Just in case, I confirm that when I meet a WG I speak of money. When I meet a not WG it is supposed she is enjoying herself exactly as I am and so I do not think to money. Then, since I understand the situation, I am happy to cover the general expenses, give her presents and some money. That is all.

Thanks a lot for the information about Soi 6 I did not know. But I had just my room there and I went in many other places and I cannot say that my opinion changed, WS included. Once again, maybe it was just a matter of bad luck or bad period.
In fact when I realized what the situation was, as I wrote, I went to the net. And I found my beauty there. About Camfrog my experience is quite negative. There is a member who even posts nudes of his experience there. In my experience when just the conversation becomes a bit warmer, the admin comes to ban it and when I saw was a girl with cam on her (covered) tits and not on her face, the admin came and banned her. So I do not think, IMHO, that camfrog, as any public chat, is really good to fish. Dating sites are much better for that.

I fully agree. Next time I will have more experience and less expectations and hopefully I will have more fun.

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]....
Ming from X-Zone. I can't praise how she lookes without her clothes highly enough[/QUOTE]
She looks like the kind of lady to go after if you like big tits. Which I like.

Thanks for the info about Ming.

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]....
I visited Devil’s Den twice in the afternoon. Here’s hoping it returns as it is a guaranteed good time. I like a sleazy girl or two and DD delivered. They will try their hardest to get you off as many times as possible....[/QUOTE]
The ladies trying to get you off as many times as possible is probably the main attraction of Devil's Den.

Unlike most other ladies, Devil's Den ladies give you full and complete satisfaction every time. You don't have to ask for more. These ladies assume that you want more. And it's up to you to say 'no' when you don't want anymore. Which results in every guy being completely satisfied with them.

But this advantage Devil's Den might loose if other places in Pattaya find out about it and train their ladies to satisfy their men totally and completely like that too. Which I hope will happen.

Every man likes to achieve his full potential with the ladies. And that's why it's such a pleasure to be with a lady who coaxes out of you the best performance that you are capable of.

Somebody needs to spread the word to the establishments and the ladies about what it is that men really want. Which is to produce as much cum for their lady as possible. Producing cum for the lady is the whole biological purpose of the guy having sex with the lady. And the more cum he manages to spill with her, the more satisfied he is bound to feel.

People are having sex for pleasure only in Pattaya. But natural pleasure comes from doing that which is good for reproduction. That's why a guy is never satisfied until he spills his cum.

Cum is essential for reproduction. And the more cum a guy spills with his lady, the better are his chances of reproduction with her. Which is why the more cum a lady coaxes out of her man, the more completely satisfied with her is bound to feel.

The ladies at Devil's Den try to drain their men of their cum completely, more completely than other ladies drain. And that's why it's more of a pleasure to be with Devil's Den ladies than with other ladies.

[QUOTE=Dan7373]The ladies trying to get you off as many times as possible is probably the main attraction of Devil's Den.

Unlike most other ladies, Devil's Den ladies give you full and complete satisfaction every time. You don't have to ask for more. These ladies assume that you want more. And it's up to you to say 'no' when you don't want anymore. Which results in every guy being completely satisfied with them.

But this advantage Devil's Den might loose if other places in Pattaya find out about it and train their ladies to satisfy their men totally and completely like that too. Which I hope will happen.

Every man likes to achieve his full potential with the ladies. And that's why it's such a pleasure to be with a lady who coaxes out of you the best performance that you are capable of.

Somebody needs to spread the word to the establishments and the ladies about what it is that men really want. Which is to produce as much cum for their lady as possible. Producing cum for the lady is the whole biological purpose of the guy having sex with the lady. And the more cum he manages to spill with her, the more satisfied he is bound to feel.

People are having sex for pleasure only in Pattaya. But natural pleasure comes from doing that which is good for reproduction. That's why a guy is never satisfied until he spills his cum.

Cum is essential for reproduction. And the more cum a guy spills with his lady, the better are his chances of reproduction with her. Which is why the more cum a lady coaxes out of her man, the more completely satisfied with her is bound to feel.

The ladies at Devil's Den try to drain their men of their cum completely, more completely than other ladies drain. And that's why it's more of a pleasure to be with Devil's Den ladies than with other ladies.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for this info, I was not aware of this......but seems very logical.

[QUOTE=Dan7373]She looks like the kind of lady to go after if you like big tits. Which I like.

Thanks for the info about Ming.[/QUOTE]

They are huge and perfectly round. They hang quite nicely on her as they are all natural. I was thinking to myself before I ran into her that I never run into women as hot in the face and body as the porn star Luci Thai when I am in Patts. One of the girls working breakfast at LK Metropole is as pretty in the face. As far as her body, Ming is sexier than Luci Thai.

Hope she's still there when I am back in December as I may have to take her out LT.

[QUOTE=Dan7373]The ladies trying to get you off as many times as possible is probably the main attraction of Devil's Den. [/QUOTE]

That and that they fuck and suck like porn stars. Usually of the two girls, one is an accomplished BJ artist. I like fucking women that know how to fuck. The Devils Den ladies do. Also, if you are a booty bandit, you can pick a girl that will happily take it up the ass. And Thai girls are so small, you really need two at a time.

[QUOTE=Dan7373]Somebody needs to spread the word to the establishments and the ladies about what it is that men really want.[/QUOTE]And it might also help DD keep their price rises in check... :(

Less than a month after my trip to the LOS, I once again found myself at the Suvarnabhumi Airport in transit to another country. I had about a couple of hours between flights and the local SIM card I had purchased earlier was still active so I decided to call up the girls I had met previously and say hi. To my surprise, everyone actually remembered me by my name!

Most of the girls are still working same jobs. My favorite girl Nok (Secrets bar), is now a coyote dancer. I was thinking of all the fun I had during the last trip and that's when I realized I never did write a report of day 4 of my previous trip. I hope memory serves me right.

Day 4

I started the day a little early and hit a few places before ending up at Secrets. A little chit chat and couple of drinks later, I was winning the board games like crazy - I won 4 games in a row and of course as per our tradition, Joy(the mamasang) offered to buy me drinks, but I already had to much (by my own standards) by that time and so I declined. I had the fancy of taking out a coyote girl that night and I asked several of them out. Turns out, each one of them had periods (which is basically a handy and polite way of saying no). The only one who agreed, wanted to go ST and that too only if I rented a room at Secrets for ST. By this time, the little head had taken over the big head and I agreed. We went upstairs and showered. Turns out, this girl had had dentures implanted recently and the wounds were still healing. Hence, the use of mouth for anything was simply out of question, and everything finished up quiet quickly. Since there was still some time left, I offered to do the finger trick and she obliged. The fun began and she had a whale of the time and she actually asked me to make her cum a second time. Who was I to refuse? She was pretty exhausted after that and I gave her a massage to relieve her. We lay arms in arms for a bit and she said felt "lucky" the way I made her cum. She also made a passing remark that the only time she felt like that before was when somebody made her cum by using the tongue.

Back at the bar, I bought her and the other girls a couple of drinks. Fortunately for me, Nok ordered a chocolate blow job. I had seen a lot of pictures of it on this forums, but had completely forgotten about it, and if not for her, I would have completely missed seeing the real thing in action. So anyway, I told this girl how I had asked few other coyote dancers, and how they all seemed to have period that day. I also pointed out these girls to her. She walked up to one of them, had a chit-chat, and came back she had agreed to go with me :) She was DJ'ing at the time but sure enough, came over to me after playing a couple of tracks. The 4 girls(Nok, chow, the coyote dancer and the DJ) had a lot talk in animated Thai. I could't make anything of it, except that they were talking about me as the grils standing nearby who were listening to their conversation, kept looking at me every now and then with a smile. They never told me what they were talking about, but as long as they were helping me set up with other girls, I really didnt care either.

As luck would have it, my credit card stopped working and I had no cash on me since I had already blown it all paying for the coyote and the ST room. It was raining heavily outside, but one of the bartenders was kind enough to take me to my hotel to get some cash. I came back with just enough cash to bar fine the DJ and off we went. Turned out to be quiet a good session with her. We had lunch, and I bid her goodbye unsure if/when I would see anyone of them again.

Now waiting for my transit flight at the airport, I truly am able to appreciate meaning of the proverb "So close, yet so far..."

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I just got back from another wonderful 2 weeks of fun in Thailand, I plan on going back again in late January.

Does anyone have any info regarding the very tall girl (5'10"/174cm) Mi from Buriram who works at LD1(Living Dolls 1).

I was in Pattaya for 8 days & I went into LDs 4 times to have a couple of drinks & to enjoy the sexy dancers, I wanted to give her & go LT, but because it was early before 10pm, she wanted 3000LT+BF of course.

Fine, call me a cheap charlie & I should've taken 1 for the team, but 3500 for Pattaya I think is kinda insane.

I'm sure I couldve negotiated a better price which I will 100% when I go back, but is she worth the BF & price, does anyone have any info on her performance?

The back-up plans of BF a past LD1 conquest wasnt an option as they no longer work there & on my last night, 1 of the sexy sign girls outside who was my back-up plan wasnt working on that night so I ended up going to windmill for some quick naughty licks & manual stimulation before I picked up a 500B beach rd fuck toy.

[QUOTE=Member #3200]I...she wanted 3000LT+BF ...does anyone have any info on her performance?[/QUOTE]

No but if she's quoting prices like that it is safe to assume that poor performance is a near certainty - poor performance and overcharging go together.

Lately I visited those three Sabai massage places just to take a look, near Big C in north Pattaya. Sabai Sabai and Sabai Room were just very mediocre, with quite old women - actually worse than most such soapies in Isaan. Sabai Dee's main fishbowl was similarly uninspiring, but they had another fishbowl sort of hidden away (they actually tried to make me sit in the poor-man's area even after I espied the better one). The offerings here were tolerable but still nothing even remotely special - no 19 year old cuties were seen.

Price 1,600 in all places for regular, and 1,900 for the VIP ones in Sabai Dee.

I've had a few nice one's from the Beach recently. That's about it.

Thats what I was thinking too about overpriced Mi, but I'm still trying to find out if anyone has taken the plunge, I'm sure I can get her for 2000.

Unlike past trips to Pattaya, this trip that ended on Tuesday was weird in a way, as bad as beach rd was during the day (7am-4pm), alot of fuglies & not enough cuties with the numbers on beach rd was not many to begin with which I have never seen before, the evenings (8pm-2am) were packed of SW(300+ between soi 13/3 & soi 8) & the quality was high also.

I decided to met of my tagged "friends" who works at the Obar on soi 6(Ting) & she looks better in person than she does in her profile pic, she is hot & the soi 6 price of 700+300BF was good enough for me to try her out, her performance was decent enough.

For those interested, Beach (*****) Rd is back in full swing. More talent there just like the old days as I remember it (before all those raids)
Some Sois were wall to wall bitches with some cute/ young to the old tired and soon to be buried ones so your choice. Also any army of LB from Soi 13 to Walking st.

Will format a proper report as soon as I return and sort out my life.
Seems good times are back in Patts. Prices are 400b for avg and below lookers to 500-700b for the lovely ones. Note: some cuties will not lower their prices so have to suck it up if you want them.

PT

I spent a few days in Pattaya last spring under the Song Kran festival.

What surprised me most was that at several bars along walking street and close to beach road where I bought a beer, I felt that I was completely ignored by the bar girls. They were just sitting together in small group chatting with each other ignoring me and (with a few exceptions)

The other customers.

How come that at some bars the girls are so uninterested in contacting the customers?

I would describe my self as average looking, in my forties not at all overweight or balded, etc. So I don't think it has much to do with my appearance.

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]...Note: some cuties will not lower their prices so have to suck it up if you want them.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, but giving in like that is always a waste as overchargers = bad service 99% of the time. Better to just walk to the next one.

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]They are huge and perfectly round. They hang quite nicely on her as they are all natural. I was thinking to myself before I ran into her that I never run into women as hot in the face and body as the porn star Luci Thai when I am in Patts. One of the girls working breakfast at LK Metropole is as pretty in the face. As far as her body, Ming is sexier than Luci Thai.

Hope she's still there when I am back in December as I may have to take her out LT.[/QUOTE]

I was there in early October, since I had friends in town I was able to tag along one evening and we did go to X-Zone, not my cup of tea since I don't particularly care for the pushy loud mouth pricks that are downstairs trying to sucker you into their place. But nevertheless, we went in around 10pm, I remember earlier reports of Ming, so that's who I was looking for? Maybe she wasn't working that night but I mentioned the name to another girl and she was silent and stared like Who? And if she was there I'm sure with those big tits I would have noticed!


LBM

[QUOTE=Opebo]No but if she's quoting prices like that it is safe to assume that poor performance is a near certainty - poor performance and overcharging go together.

Lately I visited those three Sabai massage places just to take a look, near Big C in north Pattaya. Sabai Sabai and Sabai Room were just very mediocre, with quite old women - actually worse than most such soapies in Isaan. Sabai Dee's main fishbowl was similarly uninspiring, but they had another fishbowl sort of hidden away (they actually tried to make me sit in the poor-man's area even after I espied the better one). The offerings here were tolerable but still nothing even remotely special - no 19 year old cuties were seen.

Price 1,600 in all places for regular, and 1,900 for the VIP ones in Sabai Dee.

I've had a few nice one's from the Beach recently. That's about it.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I recently had the opportunity to take a look at these places one afternoon at prime time....around 1700.......the quality has gone to crap.......the women look older and tired under the inches of thick make up that try to make them look tolerable. The grass has either gotten greener elsewhere....or the good looking ones have gone on strike.....what a disappointment!!

[QUOTE=Llar11]
How come that at some bars the girls are so uninterested in contacting the customers?

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Because they don't have to. They're have been spoiled for too long. They can just wait for guys to come in and dump cash on them. Happens all day long!

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Because they don't have to. They're have been spoiled for too long. They can just wait for guys to come in and dump cash on them. Happens all day long![/QUOTE]
Interesting. For years, we read about guys overpaying, about the legion of Japanese tourists descending in droves onto BKK, throwing money around like it grows on trees, and people complaining about such behavior spoiling the market.

Then some defend these actions, by saying a few people spending too much will not change a thing.

Seems that may not be the case. Welcome to pricey Thailand.

I'll take a "6" with a nice attitude, over a "10" with a princess complex any day of the week. no contest. A fun girl with a few stretch marks and a good sense of humor wins over the ice queen starfish with the perfect flat tummy.

I already have a perfect flat tummy, no need for both of us to have one. ;)

[QUOTE=Llar11]I spent a few days in Pattaya last spring under the Song Kran festival.

What surprised me most was that at several bars along walking street and close to beach road where I bought a beer, I felt that I was completely ignored by the bar girls. They were just sitting together in small group chatting with each other ignoring me and (with a few exceptions)

The other customers.

How come that at some bars the girls are so uninterested in contacting the customers?

I would describe my self as average looking, in my forties not at all overweight or balded, etc. So I don't think it has much to do with my appearance.[/QUOTE]


Next time be assertive and tell Mama-San the girl you want so that she can come over and sit with you. It sucks to have a girl or girls you're not interested in yapping next to you while the one you want is being snatched up by someone else.

[QUOTE=1Ball]
[b]I already have a perfect flat tummy, no need for both of us to have one. ;)[/b][/QUOTE]

ROFLOL!
That 's a good quote, mate!
:D

Since my previous trip to Pattaya two months earlier, I had kept in touch with three ladies (two freelancers and one bargirl) by occasional phone calls. I brought presents for all three – handbags, beauty creams, wine etc. I also bought tickets on Air Asia to Chiang Mai for me and my girl from Rolling Stone 2 bar.

I went to see RS2 girl (32yo) on my first night when I was tired from the long flight. She was welcoming and great company for the night. In the morning, I told her I would see her in 10 days for our trip to CMX. The next day I went on a bar crawl with a male bar-owner friend. I was accosted by a dancer at Mistys. I told her I would come back later and we did return there many hours and beers later. She descended on me again and I agreed to barfine her if she accepted 1000 for LT. Off we went, got busy in my room, I was pretty drunk but I was happy. She wanted to leave after but I told her she would only get half her money if she did so she wound up staying until 9am. She complained I was too drunk but I kind of liked her.

The next day I met up with my freelance girl (39). We took a taxi to Hat Mae Ramphung, Rayong. We stayed at the Rayong Beach hotel where we got a really good room with breakfast for 600 baht. I was surprised how excited I was to be with her. I had asked her to get checked at the clinic if she wanted sex with no condom, and she showed me that she had done this. Besides the great sex, we talked happily. Nice and quiet there, plenty of places to eat on the beach. Sand a bit dirty. Very few falang. Occasionally convoys of huge buses roll in and hundreds of Thais check in, run into the sea fully clothed, go for a mass dinner at the hotel then leave early the next day. In between these invasions we had many days with hardly anyone about. My girl wanted to go to Kanchanaburi so we take a bus to Ekamai, really comfortable with massage seats. Then we take a train from Thonburi station to Kanchanaburi. We stayed there four days, doing the River Kwai bridge thing and one day riding the train to the end of the line (now) at Nam Tok. Took a taxi up to Hellfire Pass and walked along it. It all made a really good tourist trip and she was great company. I spent 8 days with her 24/7 and was not bored for one minute. BTW they have many bars with girls in Kanchanaburi. We overnighted in Bangkok on the way back and spent some time in Soi Cowboy at Tilacs and Suzy Wongs. We bought girls drinks and heard their stories. We noted some differences between the pay structure in BKK and Pattaya. In BKK, these girls got no kick-back from the bar from the barfine. On the other hand, short and long term rates were much higher.

I told my girl I would not spend time with her in Pattaya because she got a bit possessive last trip and I also got pissed off at her pointing out ex-customers. So I went to my friend’s bar alone again. He pointed out a new girl just arrived from Buriram (19), never been with a falang. I looked at her and we exchanged smiles. I went off to visit a few go-go bars and she was still there when I returned. She spoke no English but I sat with her and we said a few words in Thai. After a while, I went to pay my bill and the girl taking the money said to me “you no barfine?” I said no I didn’t think the girl wanted to. She spoke to the girl and told me that she did want to. I said I could do LT for 1000, the girl held up two fingers, I was really not so keen so I shook my head and went to go. The girl put her arm around me and told me OK, 1000. I had never been with a girl with no English before but it was good and I enjoyed having my Thai language skills stretched. She was obviously sexually experienced, I learned later she had a son already. On the other hand, she was not so interested in pleasing me, it was just mutual sex – in that sense it was a very genuine GFE.

The next day I flew to Chiang Mai with my RS2 girl. She is relatively new to Pattaya and had never been to the airport before, let alone on a plane or to Chiang Mai. We spent the days there mostly looking at markets and temples. We ate every meal at street food places and the food was very good. In the evenings we went to Chiang Mai Saloon in Lo Kroh and sometimes to Dawan Dang (sp?). It means Red Sun. My girl loved it there. It is an enormous live Thai music club on the edge of town with a great atmosphere. I enjoyed it too. We stayed at Lai Thai for 520 baht per night so it was not an expensive trip. I paid her 1200 per day plus 300 barfine. With all my girls, I tell them I cannot buy them presents but if they wanted I could advance some money from their pay. They always say no, they will keep their pay intact. Occasionally they buy some small thing for themselves (the price for which they bargain down mercilessly because they are paying with their own money) and sometimes, despite what I said, I buy them something if the mood takes me.

I noticed that although my girl was enjoying herself she was out of her comfort zone and not very relaxed. We were together 24/7 and I started to get a little bit bored so after five days I suggested we take the night sleeper train back to BKK.

On the train after a couple of hours, I came back from the toilet and she said to me very calmly that she would have to get off and go back to Chiang Mai because she had left her purse with ID card, phone, bank card and cash in a shop near the station. The guy opposite us heard us talking and he suggested she call her phone. She did so and the lady in the shop answered. She was nice and was clearly willing to be helpful. Soon we were surrounded by train personnel and police, all discussing the situation. It was agreed that the purse would be put on a train leaving CM about 30 minutes later, in the safekeeping of the ticket inspector and she would get it from him at Hualamphong. We would have to wait two hours for this train to arrive. The ladyboy food waitress even offered that we could rest in her room near the station. It was a wonderful example of Thai culture at its best. They resolved a tricky situation calmly, sympathetically and intelligently. When she collected her purse at Hualamphomg, I asked her if she had to pay any money to the ticket collector (I stayed out of sight in case it prompted a demand for money), she told me no, she paid nothing. Her worst problem was that her mother had happened to call and had been told the whole story by the lady in the shop in CM. Her mother thinks her daughter works in a factory in Bangkok so she was very puzzled as to why she had gone to CM.

We spent most of the next day lying on my bed at Radi Mansions (superior room 450 baht) watching Thai music on the TV. Eventually she said she had to go to a friend’s party on Ko Lan. I was quite relieved, even though I like her a lot.

That evening I returned to my friend’s bar. My 19 year old greeted me with huge smiles, remonstrating with me in Thai for leaving her for so long. My friend told me she had not even talked to any other customers. She sat next to me and stroked my cock for hours as we sat at the bar. I asked her if she wanted to go to Kum Pun where they play Thai music. So we did and she did the same there, attracting some looks from the waitress when she bought our drinks. I think she was just checking my cock was not out in the open. My girl said very little until we were in my room when she would burst into non-stop Thai, of which I understood very little. She was every bit as affectionate all night long as my other two girls. In fact I spent every night of my trip (except for my night with the Mistys girl) with my arms and/or legs intertwined with one of these girls.

I decided it was time to see some more of my 39 year old. I miss her after a while because she is just such good verbal company and she also happens to be the best in bed. I stuck to my rule not to see her in Pattaya, so we took a taxi to Rayong again and had a few more quiet days by the beach there. After 3 days I knew my time was coming to an end so I told her I needed to go back to Pattaya to see my friend. I asked her to take me to her “Papa”, a man about my age who tells fortunes and has a small temple where (mostly) girls go to make good heart dressed in white and surrounded by 50 candles. I did this once with her. I like to go to this man’s house. It has a lovely calm feeling. When we arrived, he was talking to two girls, telling their fortunes. My girl introduced me as her boyfriend. I was a bit put out by this but I had to smile hugely at the girls’ response. They both let out a beautiful “niiiiiii” sound in perfect harmony, accompanied by much laughing and giggling. Papa looked on sagely and warmly.

I went back to my friend’s bar. My girl was again more or less waiting for me. I had a discussion with the mamasan. She told me not to be concerned that I am 40 years older than the girl or that we could hardly communicate. She said it would help me with my Thai and the girl with her English. I barfined her again but the bottom line funnily enough is that I do not find her that attractive physically.

The next night I arranged to meet RS2 girl. It happened to be her night off so she came to my room after I spent the evening touring some places I had not been to before in soi 6 and Second Road. I found them rather depressing. This girl who had hardly touched a drink in Chiang Mai and had done her duty in bed but without much enthusiasm now had several drinks and had a great time. I told she does not like to boom-boom but when she gets drunk she sure likes to fuck.

I reserved my final night for my favourite (the 39 year old).

I never got to see my other freelancer. She had gone to Samui to work as a masseuse. I thought about visiting her in Samui but there was too much going on in Pattaya.

Since I got home I have spoken with my 39 year old and with RS2 girl. I have bought tickets to go to Hat Yai with the former when I return to LOS next month but I will leave plenty of days free in Pattaya to see other girls. Roll on.

[QUOTE=1Ball]I already have a perfect flat tummy, no need for both of us to have one. ;)[/QUOTE]

Wait... she said that to you right.... :D :D

well after many years of visiting thailand, i finally got to pattaya. stayed a couple of nights at penthouse hotel, which is set up for mongerers fairly well. pole for dancing in the rooms, in house porn and tacky furnishings. mangy cats running around as well. not really my cup of tea. downstairs is two clubs combined, kittens, and obsession. one side of the dance podium is for ladies and obsessions side is for ladyboys so beware. they are all clearly costumed so no risk of a surprise!

walking street was good, and of course plenty of treats on offer everywhere with the usual bar fines etc. i find thailand pretty standard really as far as services for price so i'll move on to my second and third days and recommend two venues.

in soi diana my first port of call was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], a beer bar with nice girls in short tartan skirts sitting outside and a bar and couches inside and a pool table. well it seems the main service on the menu is bbj cim. my girl just swallowed down as well. really good professional work with a friendly smile. i went back a couple of hours later for a second shot. 700bht first time and tipped an extra 100 second time around.

a few doors away is the devils den. pretty much paradise in my opinion. a good choice of ladies, all specialising in threesomes and all genuine bi. a few girls stand right of a yellow line, this means they do anal. well i chose the better looking one on that side and she indicated i should choose who to join us. wisely i allowed her to take her preferred working partner, as i thought a practised team would be better. i was not disappointed.

upstairs to mirrored room and all showered. girls came fully equipped with condoms, lube, and strap on. well once showered it all began. these girls really knew how to get it on and fit a guy into the mix, and they seemed to really enjoy the work. this was a total pse and i can't wait to get back some day. i'm sure about every encounter from now on will be rated by this. damage was i think 3600bht for 90 minutes, as many shots as you can manage. you can go to 120 minutes for 4500.

one thing to mention is these girls really know about health as well. cleanliness was very thorough and very safe practice was the norm, something which i think is clearly specified by the house. mouthwash held in the mouth for several minutes during showering (before and after), constant condom changing from myself and strap on, plenty of lube to keep things moving, and all executed well so no hold ups on the action. basically everything was on the menu except cim, but bbbj was no problem. can't wait until i get to return.

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[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]And Thai girls are so small, you really need two at a time.[/QUOTE]This line really had me cracking up.

Lucifer’s on Walking Street was raided by police last night for operating after legal hours. The 400 patrons and staff were rounded up and subjected to drug tests. Those who failed the tests were charged with crimes. There are apparently no 4th, 5th, or 6th Amendments or similar Bill of Rights in the LOS – a chilling prospect to say the least, the thought that police here can force you to incriminate yourself.

Curiously, in this instance, all the foreign patrons were told to leave the premises before the drug testing began. Imagine that! Farang treated better than natives by the cops in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]

Curiously, in this instance, all the foreign patrons were told to leave the premises before the drug testing began. Imagine that! Farang treated better than natives by the cops in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
Why kill the cash cow?

[QUOTE=Ekliges Lauern]LBM,

I basically ignore the touts and barrel past them so it doesn't bother me.

Sorry Ming was not there. Just a suggestion, if you made the universal "really big tits" sign language (cupped hands out in front of your chest), I think the girl would have known who you were asking after.

Things change fast in the gogos, so I hope she is not gone for good.

EL[/QUOTE]

Your right! I just try to relax more now everyone has a job to do and their doing there's. As for Ming, it was pretty slow that night and my thinking was if I saw them I saw them didn't plan to barfine or anything so I never asked.

LBM


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phattaya 2009

at last i arrived to my sex-town of dreams. oh, what a wonderful place it is. phattaya. i had so much fun. i will tell you about the go go bars and general wonder life of phattaya town.

"have you taken the bricks off your dick yet? ". my mother asked me. and really, i noticed something banging against the toilet bowl as i stood above it. my memory is quickly failing due to old age. "thanks mum, i love you" i answered and untied the strings. i have to explain, i was actually born with a very short dick. but it is all past now and it's slowly growing. thanks to a revolutionary new treatment that i got advised by a professor of physiology. i tie a couple of bricks to the end every night as i go to sleep and let them hang over the edge of the bed. in the morning i usually wake up with an 1/4 inch longer equipment. it shrinks again a bit by the night but i think after a few months the permanent growth will add up to a half an inch i hope. then i will belong to the sex-star class of men i hope.

"after the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] comes the poo". my mom shouted after me in the bathroom. she always reminds me of the things i have to do. i love her. she is the one true love of my life. this comes in important later in the story, so i have to tell that i felt very blessed to be able to press out a real thick sausage after being plugged up for two weeks. while wondering at it's charming beauty i discovered a little pink worm wriggling in the middle. actually it wasn't that little, about the size of a small finger. indeed there were several. i decided to call them papa worm, mama worm and baby worm. they were so cute. i wondered how strangely excited they must have felt at that moment being born into this wonderful world. "we are born, we are born. hello sun, hello, air". shouted the pinkish baby worm. "oh shut up, it's just an illusion.". answered papa while making amorous faces to mamaworm. i loved them. i felt they were my own creations.

when i had enough fun, i reached for the silver button and sent the whole happy family down the drain, to oblivion. great philosophical start for the day. made me wonder if maybe some superior beings observe us down here being born in our own shit and when they had enough fun observing they send us down the drain just like the worms.

also i have to explain my mother's presence. i usually travel with her. because i love my mother. some friend asked me once. "why do you make love with your mother so often? " i had to point it out ti him that actually all men are in love with their mothers. they just see her in many faces in the persons of their wives and other women. but actually it is always their mothers, for ever. this is all proven and the theory of mr freud the famous psycholohy man. he has never been disproved. so i might just do the real thing and not fool myself that it's otherwise.

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the sexy hunting in phattaya:

i put a bottle of coca cola in her hands and locked my mama in the wardrobe so she could not escape while i am away. my mom is good to me. she is 99 years old but still has tits as good as an 80 year old. sometimes though i cheat on her, like today.

i like the place called "walking street". you will find it, everybody goes there in the evening. wandered around for a while, observing the massive crowds. had a few beers (about 15 i think). then took to the small side streets. that's where the real action is. after several unsuccessful tries i discovered the place i liked most. small, cosy and thoroughly entertaining. will see why. i ordered my draftbeer. girl came and put the bill next to the mug in a silver cilinder. just in time for a great show.

one slim tall girl was in the process of pulling out a long string of razorblades threaded onto a green fluorescent line. from where? the drawer? from her nose? no. a different kind of hole actually. from between her legs to be correct. wow, that was amazing! a razorfull of hole! then came a little turtle. but from another woman. how cute the little thing was.

but then i turned to watch another funny thing. one tall young girl (about 20) was standing in the middle of a large tub and her job was to foam herself up with a great red bricksize sponge and detergent. paying special attention to her funnyparts of course. then shower off. do this every five minutes. what a job for a woman! loved it. when she was not doing this, she took out a great yellow banana from a basket nearby her, slowly peeled it and the started rhytmically inserting it into her shaved brown snatch. occasionally taking a few dips into her anoos as well. after all this she did a few sucks and ate the whole thing. wow, i was amazed, what a great entertaining show. no cover charge just the price of one drink. (no wonder this bar usually seems full. i can tell you i became a regular visitor).

while thoroughly enjoyoing the degrading acts committed by these young women, i felt a soft touch on my thigh. i thought it might be my mama escaped from the closet. but actually it turned out to be a very young thai girl, about 22. long flowing black hair, beautiful white teeth and great smile. wow, just like mom, sort of. well it's all the same anyway. just diffferent face.

i have to admit (like most of us here i guess are in the same shoes) i never had a girl friend in my long life. i never knew what to say to them. so i come to phattaya instead and do my own momma. finally i thought hard and said "hello". is it the right thing to say?

she kept smiling at me. then thinking what can i do with a woman i reached down under her bottom and bravely inserted one middle finger into her hole, between the legs. is it the right thing to do on meeting a wo man? i wonder. she kept smiling anyway. i saw in movie that men like to kiss the woman. so then i asked her about kissing. she said "you buy me drink, you can kiss."

her vodka with soda came soon and i felt free to insert my tongue between her pink lips. i felt proud, like film star.

yes, i kissed a woman, all by myself. that's something! usually nobody likes to kiss me nowadays because of the two mouthcancers growing on the edge of my mouth. it's the effect of decades of smoking cheap tobacco i guess. but today i bought the channel face powder and it covered quite well. the little streaks of black blood and rotten tissue that was left on her cheeks i licked off before she coild notice.

what next? she offered that i could boom-boom her vagineh! really! i was so excited. all it would cost 1500 b for her, 700 for the bar, 400 for the room and so on. maybe 70 dollars or so. i was so tempted. did i do it? how did it go/ i tell you next time. momma is pulling me now to bed. have to stop writing. see you later sex-brother.

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part 2 of phattaya love sexy times with woman

so, where did i leave it? my lap-topy compewter thingy, i mean. here it is, i found it under mommas's undies. it's so smelly now, must wipe of the snot and vaginal's excretions. so, try remember the go go bar story.

part 2 of gogo bar in phattaya

so, i sit with the very sexy young girl. my finger in the hole and we watch together the stage actions. girl with the two tattoos and big vagineh now peels a new banana. kisses with the other girl who is little and had very black lips. she bites the end of yellow banana , forming a groove around the end. makes looking it like a (naughty man part, that is).... they (the two young wo men) kiss more and take torns of sucking the long fruit. how entertaining.

mr computer programmer sitting next to me cannot get enough. then the black lip girl lies on her back, spreads the legs and the big vagineh girl gets between her legs. the yellow thing goes in and out like a piston of motorcar. oh my, now she completely swallowed it. this is so exciting that mr school principal joins in to watch. i mean their names from the clothes and appearance of these gentlemen. we are many, maybe 30 men. all different kinds. all deprived of course and evil perverts like us.

the black lip girl takes good aim, flexes her tummy and a big yellow missile appears in the midair. other woman catching skillfully. how nice trained they are. good women. gets a bit more exciting now. girl tells computer programmer to open mouth. banana moves in again, missile leaves hole, bounces off school principal's shoulder and lands in computer programmer's hand at last. full audience participation. eventually programmer and principal share the fruit, braking it in halves and happily munching away. they are winners. i beg for a small mouthfull and school principal shares his end with me. i am so happy now. ultimate moment of my life.

we enjoy the show but the problem still remains. what should i talk with this woman in whom my finger is inside all this time. "uhmm, hehehe" -i say at last. guys, please help! what do women like to talk about? so, i say proudly

" i did a great poo this morning!"
she says: "really?"
"yeah, all by myself!"
"was it hard?" -she asks further
"yes, very hard, waited two weeks. but there were pink little worms in it and it was nice." - i know it must be just as interesting to her as it is to me. she smiles nevertheless and it is good sign.

"what's your name, sexy?" -she enquires further
"ass. ass hole to be correct". i state my full family name.
she thinks it is funny. "hehe, there are many of those here." - and she points all around the bar, the various men sitting on tall chairs. "you are funny man, i like". -she adds. "you boom boom me?"

i said i would think about it, paid the little monies for two drinks and left to wander further. actually watching degrading shows and all the deprived perverts like myself is more fun than boom boom. i think boomboom means same as jiggyjig, rooting, etc. i not often do that actually. am so fond of myself. i can do it much better. and it is hassle free. seven decades of habit is hard to break. nobody can force me to root women.

so, next i check out the famous soy 6, short-time jiggy street. really just for looking the punters and the show. go hotel, take out the old bag from wardrobe. she nearly finished the whole bottle of cola. pissed in the drawer. "did you have good supper my little baby?" -she asks me. (she always still calls me her little baby. it's so cute don't you think?) mr freud would be happy to know his theory is proving true even after a hundred years. yes momma, let's make love now. yer tits are just great. still as good as an 80 year old. when i praise her like this i always get a special blowjob. she never fails to perform. my only true love. life is beautiful, lahlahllah, sing, sing, sing.

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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Lucifer’s on Walking Street was raided by police last night for operating after legal hours. The 400 patrons and staff were rounded up and subjected to drug tests. Those who failed the tests were charged with crimes. There are apparently no 4th, 5th, or 6th Amendments or similar Bill of Rights in the LOS – a chilling prospect to say the least, the thought that police here can force you to incriminate yourself.

Curiously, in this instance, all the foreign patrons were told to leave the premises before the drug testing began. Imagine that! Farang treated better than natives by the cops in Thailand.[/QUOTE]What time was it supposed to close?

Here you go 1Ball,


[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-XJnhPLf9Q&feature=sub[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74u8VUvXEwE&feature=sub[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VODOmizw6Uo&feature=sub[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95501oiulHA&feature=sub[/url]

More proof that it doesn't pay to become agressive or argumentative with Pattaya Beach Road working girls.

[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000010821[/url]

Very quick one - going to be going back for a second trip to Pattaya soon, need to get the hang of these addresses. For example what does "moo" mean when it appears in an address? Also if I see an address (just for for example) 250/22 what does that refer to? thanks !

[QUOTE=Sterile]Very quick one - going to be going back for a second trip to Pattaya soon, need to get the hang of these addresses. For example what does "moo" mean when it appears in an address? Also if I see an address (just for for example) 250/22 what does that refer to? thanks ![/QUOTE]


All you want to know about addresses in Thailand is explained here: [url]http://www.thailandguru.com/thailand-postal-office-couriers.html[/url]

Very helpful, cheers...

Halloween in Pattaya was a festive carnival atmosphere last night in the hot sultry tropical air. Pretty girls in the beer bars on the side Soi’s were wearing those battery operated blinking pairs of horns on their heads, witches costumes, and painted faces. I anticipated a bit of evil, even wicked mayhem this night, but nothing prepared me for the nightmare I witnessed on Bach Road. I thought I was dreaming. I couldn’t believe my eyes. It was bloody horror on a massive scale.

The entire shore side promenade of Beach Road, from Soi 1 to Walking Street, was lit up like 42nd Street in Manhattan, lined with vendor stalls and tents tightly packed side to side, and teaming with crowds of tourist families toting their baby strollers and rug rats too and fro in their search for baubles, trinkets and Thailand souvenirs. Brown shirted cops were everywhere but not a single working girl in sight. You could buy a T-shirt or a wristwatch for 99 baht, though nary a freelancer at any price.

This was Opebo’s dire prediction come true. The dark forces of social control have finally succeeded in taking over our beloved monger’s playground by the sea. The lovely ladies of the night are gone, perhaps never to return, replaced by mind numbing hordes of Disney Land worshipers and snotty nosed little ankle biters. I’m told that the stalls and tents will be permanent, opening up by 12 noon each day and operating well into the night.

This is a disaster! The Beach Road sex scene is over, RIP. I don’t know yet where the girls have gone, but it’s a sure thing they won’t be back there anytime soon. Maybe it’s only for high season, but now I wonder:

Will Walking Street be next?

Permanent is a relative term here.

I heard it is only for the Loy Krathong Festival.

They put up stalls like that every time there is some sort of festival - they are usually gone in a week or so and everything back to normal.

Lets See

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Halloween in Pattaya was a festive carnival atmosphere last night in the hot sultry tropical air. Pretty girls in the beer bars on the side Soi’s were wearing those battery operated blinking pairs of horns on their heads, witches costumes, and painted faces. I anticipated a bit of evil, even wicked mayhem this night, but nothing prepared me for the nightmare I witnessed on Bach Road. I thought I was dreaming. I couldn’t believe my eyes. It was bloody horror on a massive scale.

The entire shore side promenade of Beach Road, from Soi 1 to Walking Street, was lit up like 42nd Street in Manhattan, lined with vendor stalls and tents tightly packed side to side, and teaming with crowds of tourist families toting their baby strollers and rug rats too and fro in their search for baubles, trinkets and Thailand souvenirs. Brown shirted cops were everywhere but not a single working girl in sight. You could buy a T-shirt or a wristwatch for 99 baht, though nary a freelancer at any price.

This was Opebo’s dire prediction come true. The dark forces of social control have finally succeeded in taking over our beloved monger’s playground by the sea. The lovely ladies of the night are gone, perhaps never to return, replaced by mind numbing hordes of Disney Land worshipers and snotty nosed little ankle biters. I’m told that the stalls and tents will be permanent, opening up by 12 noon each day and operating well into the night.

This is a disaster! The Beach Road sex scene is over, RIP. I don’t know yet where the girls have gone, but it’s a sure thing they won’t be back there anytime soon. Maybe it’s only for high season, but now I wonder:

Will Walking Street be next?[/QUOTE]

Daddy07

I fear you are right....although Pattaya is still the biggest sex market in the world, it has undoubtedly been in a rapid decline over the last five years or so. The worst aspect has been the increase in long term sponsorship of these girls. A night cruising the bars can be a numbing experience these days.

It's a pity that the decline in prostitution standards hasn't been matched by a rise in the quality of the beach and the infrastructure...but no, the place is as dirty and crumbling as ever. Hard to believe that the place is going to be flooded with wholesome high spending family types.

At least when they cleaned up 42nd Street they actually did clean it.

Daddy07,

Nothing to worry about! What goes around comes around!

They will be moving up past Central Rd, up Central Pattaya and up to Naklau. As for Beach Rd, the new beach road is Jomtien, you won't have to go far in the future?

LBM

[QUOTE=Daddy07]This is a disaster! The Beach Road sex scene is over, RIP. I don’t know yet where the girls have gone, but it’s a sure thing they won’t be back there anytime soon. Maybe it’s only for high season, but now I wonder: [/QUOTE]

Think of it this way, it gives you a reason to wake up in the morning to find the new scenes, and it gives you more exercise... What more could you ask for?

[QUOTE=Dans Asia]Permanent is a relative term here.

I heard it is only for the Loy Krathong Festival.

They put up stalls like that every time there is some sort of festival - they are usually gone in a week or so and everything back to normal.

Lets See[/QUOTE]

I'm with Dans Asia on this one. I might be wrong, but I seriously doubt that those stalls will stay permanently there. I saw something similar at least once in the past there (and it was also for the Loy Krathong Festival if I am not mistaken) and situation was back to normal just a few days later...

[QUOTE=Dans Asia]Permanent is a relative term here.

I heard it is only for the Loy Krathong Festival.

They put up stalls like that every time there is some sort of festival - they are usually gone in a week or so and everything back to normal.

Lets See[/QUOTE]
Sure hope you guys are right.

Maybe I was just suffering a panic attack.

[QUOTE=Dans Asia]They put up stalls like that every time there is some sort of festival - they are usually gone in a week or so and everything back to normal.[/QUOTE]Right. It was the same way back in March when they had the Pattaya Music Festival. The whole street was blocked off and you could only walk down it from Central Pattaya Klang to South Pattaya Tai.

I thought Halloween would be a little more festive in Patts, but it turned out to be a bit of a pain in the ass. Beach Rd has plenty of girls, but man you really had deal with all the stupid stalls.

In summary I give me trip a C+. I met my girlfriend there first night. She was very cool and did not go to work (Living Dolls 1), so I did not have to buy a bunch of drinks and pay BF. I took her to Lucifer for about 1 hr and then back to my room. She left the next day around 2pm. Man she gave it too me 5 times and I tipped her 1300B. She showed my a bar called Bamboo and said the drinks are cheap and local band is not bad.

So my dumbass did not take her there, but went by myself. There is no BF and all the girls are FL, so they do not get a cut of the drinks. It was kinda cool to hang out and not have a hostess come by every 5 min and ask if I want another beer. The catch, these girls are not 20-something. I did end up taking one back with me for LT. She never asked how much so I just gave her $1200B just before buying her lunch. I also paid her motor bike taxi (60B). Bamboo is between Beach Rd and 2nd Rd on the Soi that is at the beginning of Walking st.

My last night I went to Silver Star on Walking St. Made another lame excuse to my local GF as I am stupid and want to sample many girls while in Patts. I see they expanded the place and added 2 more stages of girls. I went to the original part near the hot tub and eyed a really nice stunner. Perfect tits and ass and just a wonderful smile. Over the next hour I also "hung out" with 2 hostesses and wait girls to the tune of 1200B, plus I bought 2 ping pong buckets. Now on to the stunner. BF for her is 700B (dancer), but she completely killed my hard on when she said she wants 3000B for LT!! She said 2500B would work, but then my mojo was GONE! I had already dropped 2500B in drinks and tips. There is no way this makes me a high roller, so I am not sure why she came at me with 3000B. I took a hostess girl (well she was about 32yo). BF 500B and I tipped her 1200B the next morning. She was fun, but I think she got her period as there was an accident with the sheets (and my leg, and the condom...you get the picture). I only had one pop with her and kicked her out at 11am. At least her attitude was good, the stunner was just going to take my money and look pretty damn good doing it.

I learned that I need a wingman. It's more fun with a buddy or 2. If I do go by myself, I will go to all new bars, and none back to back. To me, Patts is slowly turning into Singapore (of course a really dirty Singapore). I know it has always been about the money, but I remember when Patts was also about having fun getting the money.


DA

Hello all, this is my first question/posting on this forum (newbie alert! ) I have just returned home back to cold, miserable England after a glorious two weeks in Thailand (Bangkok and mainly in Pattaya)

I am in contact with one of the girls that I picked up from Dollshouse on Walking Street. Apparantly the bar fine at Dollshouse has increased this week from 600THB all week to 800THB Sunday through to Thursday and 1000THB on Friday and Saturday. Does any one know if this is thas the norm? I know that I was in the LOS during low season, but I guess my question is. Does the cost of the Bar Fine reflect the season? Or is this an attempt by the bar to increase profits?

I am planning my next trip to the LOS next year, and just wondered if the cost of mongering is increasing there.

[QUOTE=Uptown Hustler]....although Pattaya is still the biggest sex market in the world, it has undoubtedly been in a rapid decline over the last five years or so.[/QUOTE]There's been no lack of the-sky-is-falling sort of alarmism over Pattaya for at least 20 years now . . . but, yeah, something rather nasty has been happening over the past few years. Both the quality and the attitudes of the girls have been dropping -- a bad combination. It takes a lot more work to find good ones than it used to.

I don't think there's much need to worry about finding sex in Pattaya for a long while to come, but in an increasingly hard-edged, commercial kind of way.

[QUOTE=Fryatuck] ... Apparantly the bar fine at Dollshouse has increased this week from 600THB all week to 800THB Sunday through to Thursday and 1000THB on Friday and Saturday. Does any one know if this is thas the norm? ... [/QUOTE]
Many go-go bars increase bar fines during holidays, especially Christmas through New Year's Eve. Last night was Loi Krathong, which also qualifies for an increase. All will be back to normal today.

[QUOTE=Betong] but, yeah, something rather nasty has been happening over the past few years. Both the quality and the attitudes of the girls have been dropping -- a bad combination. It takes a lot more work to find good ones than it used to.

I don't think there's much need to worry about finding sex in Pattaya for a long while to come, but in an increasingly hard-edged, commercial kind of way.[/QUOTE]
Couldn't agree with you more!

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Sure hope you guys are right.

Maybe I was just suffering a panic attack.[/QUOTE]

They are right, but it is perfectly natural to panic under the circumstances - when you know things always get worse, and that extinction is the inevitable end result, its natural to fear potential signs and symptoms. Its a lot like life in general.

Regarding the pronounced general decline in Pattaya I can report that it has not had much of an effect on those of us willing to fuck the haggard, old, and very rough-looking girls. But if you must have cute young girls - well, you have a hard row to hoe, my friends.

those blow job bars, ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], bj bar, ect) provide some privacy? curtain or something, or do you have to play porn star? hard enough for me to get off on a bj w/o eyes on the performance.

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Many go-go bars increase bar fines during holidays, especially Christmas through New Year's Eve. Last night was Loi Krathong, which also qualifies for an increase. All will be back to normal today.[/QUOTE]Thank you Daddy07 for the reply, I am hoping to be in LOS for April 2010, I know it's Sonkran around 13/14th, I guess that the gogo's will no doubt be charging more for bar fines at this time. I'm just going to have to look around a bit more with the indy's! I know that the incease is only about £4-8 but thats a street meal haha. Every penny counts as they say.

Yes, Bamboo. It is right there before everyones' eyes, but nobody notices. I went there for the first time last month after walking by it a hundred times. The next night I was in Pattaya Beer Garden and several of the freelancers said I saw you in Bamboo. Ah, so this is where they all go when they leave here and the street. It is especially popular when it's raining. You can meet a reasonably good babe with no bar fine, and relatively cheap beer and no lady drinks. Check it out some time!

[quote=naked gunz]those blow job bars, ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], bj bar, ect) provide some privacy? curtain or something, or do you have to play porn star? ...[/quote]yes, at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for instance, you may be "serviced" behind curtains.

[quote=naked gunz]those blow job bars, ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], bj bar, ect) provide some privacy? curtain or something, or do you have to play porn star? hard enough for me to get off on a bj w/o eyes on the performance.[/quote]naked,

i don't think you will worry about other guys watching if are getting blow, the girl there are pro, only thing i worry about is not to cim too soon.

fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Opebo]

Regarding the pronounced general decline in Pattaya I can report that it has not had much of an effect on those of us willing to fuck the haggard, old, and very rough-looking girls. But if you must have cute young girls - well, you have a hard row to hoe, my friends.[/QUOTE]
100% accurate!

[QUOTE=Opebo].

But if you must have cute young girls - well, you have a hard row to hoe, my friends.[/QUOTE]

Seems the hardcore and haggard are mainly on beach road. The right approach to a cutie in the mall will work too.

Thanks for the info on BJ bars guys!

[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Seems the hardcore and haggard are mainly on beach road. [/QUOTE]
They are everywhere in Pattaya. Very easy to find.

as i was literally heading out the door to leave thailand my milker called me. she said she had a girl i had to see. she said she was full of milk to the point where it was dripping out of her breasts on its own! now i immediately said no because 1. i was not interested in paying the airline a fee to change my flight 2. i had all my bags packed and was not interested in dragging them back to pattaya 3. my main milker had gotten lazy the second time i saw her. she let the other girl do most of the work.

but i said no guts no glory. i got a taxi to pattaya and off i went. i arrived at my main milkers hotel off of 2nd road where she lives. the girl she had ,named fern, was only average in looks. but boy she had a great attitude. friendly, cock grabbing, just a big bundle of lactating joy. i gave her tits a little squeeze as we sat outside the hotel talking and my god the squirt was so powerful it shot up through her bra and through her shirt. i got her and the main milker in the room asap!

fern performed wonderfully. huge nipples(see pic). first she let me film and take as many photos as i wanted to. guys i tell you the girl was just sitting down and the milk was dripping like a faucet. i mean she would sit down and in 30 seconds her legs were covered with milk without her even touching her breasts! check out the pic. she then gave me an incredible bj, anal everything. she let me shoot a huge load right onto her face. goddamn the main milker can find them for me! i gave her 1,000 for her incredible performance. guys that is a deal! the main milker i only gave 500 because she breasts fed before i got there(dumb ass) and had no milk and she did very little during the performance.

as i went to leave i said i will just leave tomorrow, called the airline, paid another change fee and stayed in pattaya overnight. i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] twice and got a great hj at a small bar on soi 6. all in all a great trip.

Excellent report and Pictures!! Any chance to get in contact with milking ladies in BKK?

For ALL these raids they let the falang go!
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Lucifer’s on Walking Street was raided by police last night for operating after legal hours. The 400 patrons and staff were rounded up and subjected to drug tests. Those who failed the tests were charged with crimes. There are apparently no 4th, 5th, or 6th Amendments or similar Bill of Rights in the LOS – a chilling prospect to say the least, the thought that police here can force you to incriminate yourself.

Curiously, in this instance, all the foreign patrons were told to leave the premises before the drug testing began. Imagine that! Farang treated better than natives by the cops in Thailand.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Belmont]For ALL these raids they let the falang go![/QUOTE]

Not always. Ok, it's not the same kind of raid, but here's one example:
[url]http://www.mangosauce.com/nightlife/thai_police_piss_test_bangkok_nightclub.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Belmont]For ALL these raids they let the falang go![/QUOTE]But you should not rely on that! Prisons in Thailand have a lot of inmates caught in illegal activities, especially drugs. So stay safe and have fun.

Esclavo

i was just back in pattay in october, after 3 years since last time.
for me the things was about just as before, some new buildings of course and most of the girls too.
well still possible to find some goodones at the beachroad 500 bath . then the most of the prices was like before, yeah the barfines was no 300 bath and 200 bath before. stayed at eastiny place in soi 8 for 1200bath with breakfastbuffet, and they have a nice swimmingpool. very girlfriendly and not noisy, so yes i was happy there. was at some go go s and licked some pussy in public, was fun, and in soi 6 it was crazy, so many small hotties and was possible to lick and fingering them in public too, also [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] was good as always. well have some pics for the photo gallery , later.
in december i am off to lima , peru to spend the summer there ,at least until abril. so hope to have some fun there as well.

take care , but have fun michael

finally made it to the den.. devils den.

at the moment my wife and i are staying in koh samed. two days ago i told her my mate in rayong had asked me over for a motorbike ride and to watch fotball on tv... istead i booked a taxi for pattaya and devils den. the driver had a hard time to find soi lk metro, but finally we found it. i went past [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] on my way there , rounded the corner and saw the sign. went in at the same time as a younger guy, maybe 30 and we sat down at the bar. cerberus came over and asked if we knew what place this was... i said i did, but the other guy wanted to know more. cerberus told the whole story and ended with the words... dont forget about the yellow line, right is right and left is wrong. then he called for the ladies to line up.

i had checked up their web site before, and had the name kitty in my head. didn't find her so i had to ask.. but i still didn't recognize her but she was a cutie anyway so my decision was done. only problem was the other guy had chosen her too.. so we had to toss the coin and luckily i won. went over to kitty and asked her to pick the best as her partner.. her choise was beer. we went out and in next door and upstairs.

into the room and the girls started to undress right away, and so did i. and then the weirdest two hours of my life started...

after shower and drying kitty started a bbbj and i had beer sat on my chest so i could lick her. then on with condom and fuck kitty cowgirl.. after that condom of and i came in kittys mouth. after i was drained, kitty came up and kissed me... cumsharing with me.. so, now i know how my sperm tastes...

after washing off kitty asked if i wanted to be handcuffed and i approved. so she ran away and came back with cuffs and sexy outfit for themselves, including high boots. then a new bbbj, new condow and i fucked beer. after a while i told her i wanted to switch hole, so she got up on her knees and i started to penetrate her asshole slowly. after a while she relaxed and i could start fuck her faster... until i finally came for the second time.

off with their sexy outfit and i asked the girls to play while i watched. kitty started to lick out beers pussy and after that she took on a strap on and started to fuck beer missionary. i played with both of them and after a while kitty said i could put on a condom and fuck her doggy while she was fucking beer with the strap on. i did and i think this was one of my lifes biggest moments... so after a while a came a third time.. nothing that has happened for me in many years, if ever...

during the whole act kitty was feeding me beer from her mouth.. also that pretty weird.

well, two hours was soon gone and we took a shower, i took some photos of the girls. down to the bar again and i noticed that kitty, a woman of 35 with tree kids, (without any trace) smiled at her boss, i guess at least she and i had a good time, hard to tell about beer, she seemed more concerned about eye make up during the session than anything else.

kitty told me to bring my wife next time... and im really tempted to make a try if we end up in pattaya.

picture of the two ladies here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951328&postcount=2865[/url]

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.
Well, two hours was soon gone and we took a shower, i took some photos of the girls. [/QUOTE]Hi Dextro Sol,

Do (did) they allow action pictures at Devils Den?

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.[/QUOTE]

Great report Dextro Sol. Thank you!

My friends and I will be in Pattaya and later Bangkok in early December 2009 and will want to party as much as we can. I read somewhere that there are certain "male erection gel" that could help us to keep partying.....

My questions to the members are:

(1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya and if so, could anyone recommend to us some places near Soi 7 & 8 where we can buy the product.

(2) what brand is more effective?

Thanks for you help in advance.

Cheers
normad2020

[QUOTE=Normad2020]My friends and I will be in Pattaya and later Bangkok in early December 2009 and will want to party as much as we can. I read somewhere that there are certain "male erection gel" that could help us to keep partying.....

My questions to the members are:

(1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya and if so, could anyone recommend to us some places near Soi 7 & 8 where we can buy the product.

(2) what brand is more effective?

Thanks for you help in advance.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]There are several gels that desensitize you, they are all Benzocaine based so you have to be careful or you will end up with Benzocaine poisoning. Trojan also makes some condoms that come with the Gel already on the inside. These are better as they don't desensitize the girl as well. The drawback is that they reduce the feeling, quite substantially; you may even have trouble staying hard when using these gels. IMHO try Viagra of Cialis, they work much better. Plus they don't make it so the girls don't feel anything, cause there is nothing worse than a girl who is not into the it.

DVEight

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.

After Washing off Kitty asked if i wanted to be handcuffed and i approved. So she ran away and came back with cuffs and sexy outfit for themselves, including high boots. Then a new bbbj, new condow and i fucked Beer. After a while i told her i wanted to switch hole, so she got up on her knees and i started to penetrate her asshole slowly. After a while she relaxed and i could start fuck her faster... until i finally came for the second time.


[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951328&postcount=2865[/url][/QUOTE]Allright I am sold, Devils Den on my next trip for sure!

[QUOTE=PauloThai]Hi Dextro Sol,

Do (did) they allow action pictures at Devils Den?

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Not the two girls i had.. but cant speak for the rest

[QUOTE=Pita123]Great report Dextro Sol. Thank you![/QUOTE]

Thank you Pita

[QUOTE=Normad2020]My friends and I will be in Pattaya and later Bangkok in early December 2009 and will want to party as much as we can. I read somewhere that there are certain "male erection gel" that could help us to keep partying.....

My questions to the members are:

(1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya and if so, could anyone recommend to us some places near Soi 7 & 8 where we can buy the product.

(2) what brand is more effective?

Thanks for you help in advance.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]

(1) Just look for a Pharmacy and you'll be able to buy it. I bought mine in bkk, and they cost 80 bath a piece

(2) I dont really know if there are any other brands then Kamagra... for the gel.. about tablets there are a few more brands, for example Viagra and Cialis

Coming to Pattaya first coming weekend and stay for the week.. Looking forward to it. It will be my 10th trip, so I know where to go.

if anyone would like to join for a beer or two and share experiences let me know. I will check for reply's during the week.

GT

[QUOTE=PauloThai]Hi Dextro Sol,

Do (did) they allow action pictures at Devils Den?

Cheers![/QUOTE]No, they don't.

[QUOTE=Normad2020](1) whether we can buy the said gel in Pattaya[/QUOTE]

Literally every pharmacy for 100 baht if you buy one. In Soi Buakaow I've gotten 80 baht when I buy several at once, have to ask though. In Soi 11 in Bangkok, I think it's the 1st pharmacy on the right, 60 baht.

I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020


[QUOTE=Dveight]There are several gels that desensitize you, they are all Benzocaine based so you have to be careful or you will end up with Benzocaine poisoning. Trojan also makes some condoms that come with the Gel already on the inside. These are better as they don't desensitize the girl as well. The drawback is that they reduce the feeling, quite substantially; you may even have trouble staying hard when using these gels. IMHO try Viagra of Cialis, they work much better. Plus they don't make it so the girls don't feel anything, cause there is nothing worse than a girl who is not into the it.

DVEight[/QUOTE]

To Rockoff and Dextro Sol, thanks for the feedback and the indicated selling price. I will look for "Kamagra" at the Pharmacy once I hit into Pattaya. Since there are 6 of us, I think we should be entitle to some discount on bulk purchase...hahahaha

Looking forward to participate in the Pattaya scene.....less than a month to go....

Cheers
normad2020

[QUOTE=Normad2020]I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
Kamagra is not applied externally, but taken orally and begins to work more quickly than the tablets. I've never heard of an "externally applied gel" to get you up, but I'm no expert.

You do not need ED to enjoy these drugs, but if you do have it they will help.

Enjoy.

Thanks Mate for correcting my oversight.

So you will recommend "Kamagra" over Viagra or others? Oral is find with me as I do not really want any delay cream as I do take a while to climax.....

Cheers
normad2020




[QUOTE=Daddy07]Kamagra is not applied externally, but taken orally and begins to work more quickly than the tablets. I've never heard of an "externally applied gel" to get you up, but I'm no expert.

You do not need ED to enjoy these drugs, but if you do have it they will help.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Kamagra is not applied externally, but taken orally and begins to work more quickly than the tablets. I've never heard of an "externally applied gel" to get you up, but I'm no expert.

You do not need ED to enjoy these drugs, but if you do have it they will help.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Had a prostate cancer and during the nerve recovery process after removal, doc gave me some tubes filled with a gel, that was injected into the uretha. As a kind of external viagra.

They didn't work really well. So went back to Viagra/Kamagra. Both work fine but with Kamagra being one tenth the price, no guesses for which one I use.

[QUOTE=Normad2020]I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]But don't expect miracles... I practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] blue when I am in Pattaya but there is still a physiological limit (for mere mortals - this doesn't apply to Tansak of course).

[QUOTE=Normad2020]Thanks Mate for correcting my oversight.

So you will recommend "Kamagra" over Viagra or others? Oral is find with me as I do not really want any delay cream as I do take a while to climax.....

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]


Kamagra is VIAGRA it is the generic version and the same thing.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]But don't expect miracles... I practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] blue when I am in Pattaya but there is still a physiological limit (for mere mortals - this doesn't apply to Tansak of course).[/QUOTE]

Wow I'm off board, working in MNL for a while and I come back to this? Ok in 12 days I'll be in Thailand and we'll start making more little Tansak's for sure as the girls in makati are a little sore right now :D

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Kamagra is VIAGRA it is the generic version and the same thing.[/QUOTE]Kamagra = generic Viagra
Apcalis = generic cialis

Generic and proprietary are the same chemical, but the generic form is made without paying royalties to the inventor (Pfizer) so much cheaper. The cost of each generic pill is about 100 Bht, while the cost in India (where they are mostly made) is about 20 Bht equivalent.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=930244&postcount=3123[/url]

To add to the above data, I recently bought a real viagra pill in Delhi and it cost £6 ie the same as in the UK, demonstrating how tightly Pfizer control the world-wide market.

Always buy from a reputable pharmacy, not from a guy in the street. Given the mark-up available on the generic drugs (80%?) there is no reason to provide chalk dust, but you never know...

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Given the mark-up available on the generic drugs (80%?) there is no reason to provide chalk dust, but you never know...[/QUOTE]

WAY OFF TOPIC of this thread so I apologize.... but.... having an interest in a pharmacy, I'll tell you that buying pills in India compared to landed costs are huge. The taxation and laws regarding generic medicines are a nightmare in some countries, again lobbyists in various countries by the medical industries set these up. The theory is that the profits are funneled into future medical break through and advancement in medicinal practices. If that's the case or not you could debate it forever.

The second issue is that there is reputable generic and then there is generic generic in India. You do NOT want the generic generic versions as they are almost identical copies / fakes of the generics in terms of packaging and looks but in reality their chemical content is so obscure it is scary.

To make most mongers feel better, most Pharmacies I've gone into in Thai are using reputable firms and Thai has a very large Pharmaceutical industry itself. Surprisingly many medicines made in Thai are cheaper then the ones made in Philippines and some are getting close (in price and quality) to the reputable Indian companies in my opinion and we are now using some Thai Pharmaceuticals.

The mark up appears to be high (80% how did you figure that one??? 400% mark up if selling at 80 baht right?) I agree, but there were also some major crack down on illegally imported generics recently in Thai.

Just ask your bell man where the local "Guava" go to buy pills. But people are spending how much on airfare and then on hotels and then on girls, they should not worry about a few days of jelly.

6 days x 60 baht (supposedly the mark up without taxation / shipping / bribes etc... 80 baht - 20 baht price) x 2 time a day = 720 baht

The folks who monger in Thailand are lucky for these costs IMHO and Pattaya is cheaper then in BKK usually for pharmaceuticals so if you are going to both stock up on your antibiotics and other med's in Pattaya to take home with you.

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol]Finally made it to the den.. Devils Den.

I had checked up their web site before, and had the name Kitty in my head. Didn't find her so I had to ask.. but i still didn't recognize her but she was a cutie anyway so my decision was done. Only problem was the other guy had chosen her too.. so we had to toss the coin and luckily I won. Went over to Kitty and asked her to pick the best as her partner.. Her choise was Beer. We went out and in next door and upstairs.

Picture of the two ladies here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=951328&postcount=2865[/url][/QUOTE]Hi Dextro Sol,

I have just got back from my first trip to Pattaya, and also picked the same girls from DD.

Actually I picked Beer, and she chose Kitty.

I'll be sure to include my DD exprience in my Trip reports, once I recover from the 'jetlag'!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]The mark up appears to be high (80% how did you figure that one??? 400% mark up if selling at 80 baht right?)[/QUOTE]I know my pharmaceuticals but you're right, I can't do sums :(

Anyway, I always buy my drugs in India now, and get amazing prices for generic medicines. I have yet to find a drug that isn't sold somewhere (not that I have tried that hard), although as someone will soon point out, the concern might be in bringing them back to your home country.

[QUOTE=Normad2020]I do not have ED problem so is it okay that I take Viagra or others? I was hoping for some externally applied gel such as "Kamagra" or "ProSolutions" that will enable me to "get it up" more times to enjoy what is on offer in Pattaya and Bangkok.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks & Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]Yes, Nomad, the others are right. Recreational use of viagra/cialis and the foreign brands are ok. You might get slight headaches, an acidy stomach (take tums) and/or very slight vision impairment but these symptoms are temporary and normal (so I'm told) and well worth the affect of the mighty blue vitamin. It's also great to take one after you've had a few too many drinks. Alcohol does not seem to affect viagra. Happy hard-ons! :)

BTW if you see any big boobs in your travels kindly let us know!

pattaya trip report

i have just retruned from my third trip to los, and first trip to pattaya.

firstly i would like to thank the bm's for all the information provided on this forum, it was a great help.

landed in bkk at 18.30, spent 45mins going through immigration and baggage reclaim. through to arrivals and turned right, walked down to exit 3 and thankfully found my driver (mr. t taxis) waiving my name in the air.

decent car, powerful air-con, got me to pattaya by 9.00pm. i had booked a night at walking street guesthouse (the owner johan kindly arranged the taxi for me). as it was after 6.00pm walking street was pedestrianised therefore the driver went through the back soi's and got me as close a possible. gave him 1000bt with 100tip, grabbed my bag and went looking for my hotel. followed the massive sign for lucifers, and as promised my hotel was directly opposite. i will give an accommodation review in the relevant section.

by the time i had checked in, showered and changed it was approaching 11:00 pm, so headed out onto walking street. i'm not much of an agogo fan, find them overpriced and full of 'princess' types. i popped into angelwitch and heavens had a couple of beers, checked out the talent, then headed for beach road.

as it was halloween, beach road was heaving with stalls and tourists, even at 1:00 am, but unfortunately not much in the way of girls. as it was approaching 02.30am i decided to head back to the hotel and sleep off the jetlag alone. stopped by a 7-11 for some beer and fags, on my way out i saw a girl walk past, dressed to kill. she was hardly 5ft tall in heels, had the cutest face and the shortest tightest hotpants. i stopped her and asked her the way to walking street, she replied by telling me she was also going to walking street, so we agreed to walk together. it didn't take long to persuade her to come back to my room.

once in the room i took a few pictures of her then we both jumped in the shower. washed and dried we hit the bed. she gave me a killer bbbj, taking it all the way deep into her throat. she even seemed to enjoy me pushing her head down and gagging her. i eventually shot my load whilst she was deep-throating which she swallowed like a champ.

had a beer and cig then for round two. she sucked me off till i was hard, then slipped on a condom. i fucked her tight pussy for a while in varying positions, then decided to take her ass. i didn't ask her, but began to rub my tip on her asshole. she responded well, pushing back on my knob. i fucked her ass for a while and ended up cumming on her face. she was with me for around 5 hrs. gave her 1000bt and sent her on her merry way.

day 2

moved to the liquid lounge on soi buakhao. danny had e-mailed me to confirm all the larger rroms were taken, but a small room was available, which i took.

this (small) room was twice the size of the room at the previous guesthouse. review will be posted in hotels section,

took a walk down soi 6 and got the screaming and yelling, but alas nothing took my fancy. ended up in queen vic for a couple a ciders and a sunday roast. went straight to bed and snored for several hours.

liquid lounge is on the corner of soi buakhao and lk metro, opp blu club. i could see the blu club pole dancing girls from my balcony, but more importantly i could see the devils den.

after a few beers in the room i decided to tackle the den. walking the 50yards from my room to the den proved to be impossible. i was quickly sidetracked by a girl in a bar opposite metro apartments (i think it was named redz bar). this girl (becky) was quite tall for a thai girl, wearing irressitable tight white jeans. i ended up staying with her for 2 days.

it was only after i had barfined her that i noticed her friend. she was hot. i wanted to do a switcharoo, but was quickly told by my girl that this would be very bad form. i told her fine, but will come back tomorrow for her friend. in the privacy of my room she requested i not barfine her friend, as it would prove arkward for her. being the gent i am, i decided to agree not to barfine her.(a decision i still regret).

day 3

spent the day doing a bar crawl watching cricket. spent the night with becky. uneventful day, very eventful night!

day 4

again spent the day doing some sightseeing, drinking and shopping. went back to the room and had what i thought was a quick nap. woke up and looked at my watch.11.30pm, what the fuck! devil's den closed at midnight, so quickly got washed and dressed. took the long way around to avoid becky's bar, no time for distractions! got to dd at 11.55. i asked the gaffer if i was ok for time, to which he replied "of course, we've been waiting for you all day".

there were plenty of girls in the line-up. i chose beer from the right and left her to pick a friend. she picked kitty from the left. grabbed my jd & coke and my two gals and off we went for two hours of heaven.

shower/srub/dry and bed. double bbbj, rimming, facesitting, cim. they performed a full-on lesbian session whilst i achieved superman's power of recovery. back to double bbbj, then straight into anal with beer. swapped condoms and fucked kitty on the ceiling mouned swing.

eventually came on both their faces. 2 hrs including drinks and tips = 5000bt. very satisfying.

i walked out refreshed, clutching my free t-shirt.

day 5

adhering to the old law of not crapping on your own doorstep, i had refused to barfine from the liquid lounge. however due to a cocktail of chang, sambuca, laziness and a throbbing hardon i finally sucummbed to the charms of the ll ladies. i spent my remaing 3 days with these ladies.

first night was with numwan who had a wonderful smile, a good fuck, but alas didn't suck cock. she must be the only girl in pattaya who does not smoke, and yes i barfined her!

day 6

numwan's auntie was a psuedo-mamasan in the bar. she had introduced me to numwan the night before, and tonight told me about her other neice, pet.

auntie informed me pet had only been here 1 week so could not speak english, however she did have a very sexy body with big wide eyes.

i barfined pet and took her upto my room. she was very willing but was obviously naive and inexperienced. we fucked twice before going to sleep. in the morning she wanted round 3, but neither of us had condoms. she insisted i do her bareback, which i politely declined as i ran to the shower to scrub my cock!

day 7

i had an early morning flight the following day, so decided to sleep throughout the day and stay awake all night. eventually woke up 7.00pm. went out for a few beers along soi diana and 2nd road. found a live band behind lk metropole which played decent rock music. made my way back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for 11.00pm and was followed in by an absolute monster. i understand that the girls in bj bars are never going to be stunners, but this one had the sort of face that could melt a diamond. i bought her a sympathy drink and downed my own drink in 3 swigs. i went back to living lounge and chilled in the bar. my two previous barfines both sat either side of me, each stroking a leg and giggling at my inane conversation. i bought them both drinks but confirmed i will not be barfining either. it was then that another girl caught my eye. i noticed her on my first night, but the never seemed to be available. it was now 2.00am and i was due to check out at 4.00am.

i told her straight that i had no time for small talk or drinks. i paid her barfine and we both ran upto my room. quick shower and straight to work.

i
she insisted on making me cum twice before i went, and proceeded to ride me like a rodeo bull. she kept her promise and drained me twice. my knees were still shaking as i descended the stairs to my awaiting taxi.

i love this town!

here a few pics:

the first few are of the beach road freelancer i met on the first night, including one of her shoes. i couldn't believe how tiny her feet were!

these are the only pics i took, as after this my camera died. it must have made a moral sacrifice!

the next pic is beer and kitty from devil's den. i have 'borrowed' this pic from dextro sol, who enjoyed a session with the same two girls. hope you don't mind mate.

the next pic is the ladies from living lounge taken from the website. the girl i barfined on the last night is holding the pool cue. numwan is standing over her left shoulder.

the fresh farm girl is not in the pic.

the last pic is my devil's den t-shirt. i can't think of an appropriate occasion for my new t-shirt, but i'll find something.

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Chachi420 - Nice freelancer, she looks like she's under 40kg.

Dextro Sol - Great DD report.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] But people are spending how much on airfare and then on hotels and then on girls, they should not worry about a few days of jelly.
[/QUOTE]

Exactly! why go through all this trouble of risking your life on copy products just to save a few bucks?
I never was a fan of copies in the first place but for medicine? are you kidding? Not worth it at all no matter how much cheaper the pill is.

By the way, I'm fortunate to be young enough to pop 3 times a session without the need for these pills :D

[QUOTE=Chachi420]It was only after I had barfined her that I noticed her friend. She was hot. I wanted to do a switcharoo, but was quickly told by my girl that this would be very bad form. I told her fine, but will come back tomorrow for her friend. In the privacy of my room she requested I not barfine her friend, as it would prove arkward for her. Being the gent I am, I decided to agree not to barfine her.(A decision I still regret).[/QUOTE]

Very good report! Thumb's up.

Look, it's not awkward at all for you to switch girls... they try to play this card on you but you don't really have to follow it. And not taking her friend has nothing gentleman-esque about it.
Just tell her to call her friend and arrange a threesome, if she says no, then go to the friend directly and barfine her.
You are on holidays! it's your money! don't let the girls dictate your moves.

Of course, being nice all the way, also helps to make your encounter more enjoyable.

Nice report ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]By the way, I'm fortunate to be young enough to pop 3 times a session without the need for these pills :D[/QUOTE]

Yup, the good thing about being in SEA often is that I know girls who are better then blue or yellow pills (real or generic). Doesn't matter if I want it up or not, if the girls want it up they get it up all the way to completion....

Natural is always much better then artificial. Exercise, fitness, healthy living, lots of repetitive sex to keep the plumbing functioning on a continual basis etc...

Even for us old guys Nic ;)

Thanks for the advise and I will surely informed my other friends about this and we will get some the moment we hit Pattaya!!!!!!

I will definitely let the forum know if I managed to track down reasonably young (18-25yo) big boobs girls. I am a sucker for big boobs (better still if they are natural) and so that is usually my first choice...hehehehe

After reading the forum my plan for my friends and I will be to keep the schedule loose so that we will not limit ourselves to some timetable in the event we find a good place with nice girls (not necessary Walking Street). We will do the mandatory "tour" of Beach Rd, Walking Street, Soi 6, 7 & 8 (any other suggestions) in the first two days then settle down to where we believe we can have the most fun. What do you think of that proposal?

Cheers
normad2020




[QUOTE=D Cups]Yes, Nomad, the others are right. Recreational use of viagra/cialis and the foreign brands are ok. You might get slight headaches, an acidy stomach (take tums) and/or very slight vision impairment but these symptoms are temporary and normal (so I'm told) and well worth the affect of the mighty blue vitamin. It's also great to take one after you've had a few too many drinks. Alcohol does not seem to affect viagra. Happy hard-ons! :)

BTW if you see any big boobs in your travels kindly let us know![/QUOTE]

Thanks mate. So "Kamagra" it is.... BTW what is the average selling price in Pattaya. It is just for my comparison so that the pharmacy does not over-charged me...

Cheers
normad2020



[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Kamagra is VIAGRA it is the generic version and the same thing.[/QUOTE]

Cheers Mate...after all we are only human except for Tansak who is a super human when it comes to sex.....hahahahaha

Cheers
normad2020


[QUOTE=Mouse1]But don't expect miracles... I practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] blue when I am in Pattaya but there is still a physiological limit (for mere mortals - this doesn't apply to Tansak of course).[/QUOTE]

i'm new here in pattaya, not a good report poster, trying to share my trip report here. tried only beach road. not went anywhere else. looks like pattaya girls are made only for white men or for american. not for indian. most of the old man having young girl with him and i'm finding a hard-time to get a young gal for me. some rejected bcoz they don't like indian.

day 1: found this girl for 2500 bhat lt. she said she is 18. (but never showed her id to me) i took her hotel at 7 pm or so. she took 1500 as she got nacked in hotel, i tried to pock. but my bro was not ready. so i said her lets have dinner then come back so went to have dinner, after dinner she said have to go for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]". then she left me, never showed up. what the fuck! anyone else faced this shit?

day 2: very bad day for me. i was keep finding girl on beach road, walking street. no young girl found, only old lady watching me. but i said them, "look at me, i'm young and want young slim." found one later, but she rejected bcoz i'm indian and don't like to go. looks like these girl enjoy more with old men smile. gif found another later, she never had problem, but she is not ready for lt, she is made for st. she was good. but i was not looking for st. after searching from 5pm to 8:45pm i got upset, i'm about to leave alone back to hotel, suddenly this young looking slim girl just came. what! she was slim like hell. and under 5 feet may b. she said she is 24. this girl found and was ready for lt 1500. this time i had dinner first, then went to hotel. she was with me until morning. she said we both are small small. same same. sometime i never understand what she said to me. sometime she never understand what i says to her. however, had good time with her. she liked me a lot and never took money first. next morning she took, kissed, went.

2 days story ends.

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[QUOTE=Normad2020]Thanks mate. So "Kamagra" it is.... BTW what is the average selling price in Pattaya. It is just for my comparison so that the pharmacy does not over-charged me...

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]

I should let others report but I'm told 80 baht is what a local ExPat in Pattaya pays for a satchel of jelly V....

But... he might know the cheapest source, again you are paying how much for the trip / girl etc... you are going to quibble over 20 baht difference if they ask for 100 baht?

I'd go for 80 baht but hell mate if they ask for 100 why fight it?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Natural is always much better then artificial. Exercise, fitness, [b]healthy living[/b], lots of repetitive sex to keep the plumbing functioning on a continual basis etc...

Even for us old guys Nic ;)[/QUOTE]

Healthy living is a difficult topic, My colleague's idea of healthy living is a good pack of cigarettes a day, beer and pizzas or burgers.
Granted, he walks 3 meters behind his fat stomach, but if you ask him, he lives a healthy life (apparently fucks like a rabbit too) :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Healthy living is a difficult topic, My colleague's idea of healthy living is a good pack of cigarettes a day, beer and pizzas or burgers.
Granted, he walks 3 meters behind his fat stomach, but if you ask him, he lives a healthy life (apparently fucks like a rabbit too) :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah well add 46 kg to me, double the cig's a day, take out the beer but put in a half a bottle of 151 rum every day and that was my style of life before. And I was still the most handsum man in SEA :D That's why I love it so much and trust every word out of a Asian Girls Mouth.

Humping with an extra 46 kg strapped to your ass and belly for a while and no lung capacity I guess sure does train you up for Rabbitology when you do get in shape :D

An excellent report with graphic gory details,keep it up!

[QUOTE=Chachi420]Pattaya Trip Report

I have just retruned from my third trip to LOS, and first trip to Pattaya.[/quote]

My apology for asking an arse of a question.....

Cheers Mate



[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I should let others report but I'm told 80 baht is what a local ExPat in Pattaya pays for a satchel of jelly V....

But... he might know the cheapest source, again you are paying how much for the trip / girl etc... you are going to quibble over 20 baht difference if they ask for 100 baht?

I'd go for 80 baht but hell mate if they ask for 100 why fight it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Normad2020]Thanks mate. So "Kamagra" it is.... BTW what is the average selling price in Pattaya. It is just for my comparison so that the pharmacy does not over-charged me...

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]

U can have it much cheaper if u buy a full box of it.
50 jelly for 2k !!

[quote=anil kapoor]day 1: found this girl for 2500 bhat lt. she said she is 18. (but never showed her id to me) i took her hotel at 7 pm or so. she took 1500 as she got nacked in hotel, i tried to pock. but my bro was not ready. so i said her lets have dinner then come back so went to have dinner, after dinner she said have to go for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]". then she left me, never showed up. what the fuck! anyone else faced this shit?[/quote]does this means you paid her before and she ran with the baht?

Since there are 6 of us and we need to do Pattaya and Bangkok for 2 weeks that might work out fine. Where is the place?

Cheers
normad2020



[QUOTE=Marteau]U can have it much cheaper if u buy a full box of it.
50 jelly for 2k !![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marteau]U can have it much cheaper if u buy a full box of it.
50 jelly for 2k !![/QUOTE]

Please be careful carrying large quantities of Kamagra or Viagra around with you - there have been stories on this forum of gentlemen being shaken down by the police for large bribes when found with these substances in their baggage.

I never buy more then 10 sachets at a time (700 baht), and I carry it along with miscellaneous dispensable items such as flip-flops or so forth in a shopping bag. By thus keeping these items separate from my main bag I have the chance to either not collect this extra bag or casually discard it if I see any police stopping people at bus stations, etc.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Please be careful carrying large quantities of Kamagra or Viagra around with you - there have been stories on this forum of gentlemen being shaken down by the police for large bribes when found with these substances in their baggage.[/QUOTE]

Opebo... wasn't that about Valium? Last reports I understood was that it is legal for Kamagra and Vit C sale and useage and any shake down are for folks that are not aware it is legal. What is ILLEGAL is bringing INTO the country generics of Vit V and C in large(r) volume.

[QUOTE=Opebo]I never buy more then 10 sachets at a time (700 baht)[/QUOTE]

I went by the pharmacy next to the Villa Market on Soi 11 last night. Asked how much. 80 baht. Oh but last time it was 60 baht. OK 60 baht. 5 please. Put down a 500 baht note. No change. No change? Had to ask him to work out 5*60 on his calculator twice before I got change. Ah well, it was around midnight, I guess it was a long day.

[QUOTE=Normad2020]Since there are 6 of us and we need to do Pattaya and Bangkok for 2 weeks that might work out fine. Where is the place?

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]

The pharmacy near Tim's Bar 2nd road.

[QUOTE=Opebo]Please be careful carrying large quantities of Kamagra or Viagra around with you - there have been stories on this forum of gentlemen being shaken down by the police for large bribes when found with these substances in their baggage.

I never buy more then 10 sachets at a time (700 baht), and I carry it along with miscellaneous dispensable items such as flip-flops or so forth in a shopping bag. By thus keeping these items separate from my main bag I have the chance to either not collect this extra bag or casually discard it if I see any police stopping people at bus stations, etc.[/QUOTE]

The last time i brought back home 50 jelly and 30 viagra pack...
U have to be very unlucky to be catch by thai police..but i know there's some case..mainly in bus station.(if we r talking about the same case?)
In BKK Airport they never check ur bag when u leave the country(at least with me) and back home they also never check my bag...
If u bring back a raisonnable quantity it shouldn't be a problem..but what's a raisonnable quantity. ?..that's the question

[QUOTE=Marteau]The last time i brought back home 50 jelly and 30 viagra pack...
U have to be very unlucky to be catch by thai police..but i know there's some case..mainly in bus station.(if we r talking about the same case?)
In BKK Airport they never check ur bag when u leave the country(at least with me) and back home they also never check my bag...
If u bring back a raisonnable quantity it shouldn't be a problem..but what's a raisonnable quantity. ?..that's the question[/QUOTE]

The case on ISG was about Valium, not Viagra. Leaving the country the Thai's don't care at all as I go out with a suitcase of drugs.

Anyone bringing it or mailing generics INTO the country they can nail you.

Your own home country and any transit points would be the ones to issue any hassles to you on exit.

Go to pharmacy 2nd Road / Soi 15 ( about 50m from 2nd Road, left side). If you buy a package of 50, you get them for 40 Bath each, total damage 2.000 Bath.

[QUOTE=DG69]You are quite right. In case of a robbary I would lose alot, but on the other hand side I still have credit cards, so I still would be able to go to ATM's.
But, since I travel alot and never lost something, nor get robbed (except in Brazil), I got a little careless. And yes 10.000 is that much money, since I lost even more with stocks.;-)[/QUOTE]

Simple question: what does this post has to do with providing useful information for each other regarding girls in Pattaya????

jager

boofergentlemen (and the few ladies out there),

i have finally entered the promised land. wait until your heart stops? why the hell would we do that? pattaya, bangkok. either this is a cruel test or a blessed reward. i haven't written many reports, as i tend to get long-[fingered], and most of what i have to say has already been written by the longer-toothed of you. i am writing this mainly to any first timers like myself or anyone undecided on the mongering career. no need for any commentary, if you don't like it, just let it die along with the other old posts.

first of all, what the fuck would anyone even need viagra for here? even if you don't prefer asians as i do, you can't help but to feel the effect of all of the "local produce". if your problem is medical, try cialis, lasts longer, doesn't "blue" your vision, and is a better deal in $/hr.

secondly, make sure that when you come here to monger you are absolutely, positively, 100% completely incapable of falling in love, or are willing to deal with the consequences.

i have traveled the world in 2 years, 6 continents, 52 countries, 230 or so international cities. isg has been very helpful to me, so i paid for the membership. i have tried south american, european, african, and asian, and found little basic difference between them, with the exception of a very lovely thai at the bikini bar on lessingstrasse in bremerhaven, germany.

my [buddha], if i had only known, all those normal "personal" trips to lima, and the one decent one to pi; cancel!

my first night through bangkok, i went for the "soapy" massage, can't remember where for the life of me however; i picked the youngest, cutest, most non-professional looking thick-thighed princess out of the fishbowl, and ended up $200 in the hole at 6pm the next day. that includes the 2 hour, 2500 baht massage (1 pop), all of our drinks, tips, taxis in and through cowboy and nana soi, the boots disco (recommend it), to and from hotel, and 3 meals. try that in any other country without getting a horrible disease or food poisoning.

after a week of work, i came here to pattaya, got an nice hotel, nirvana couture, for 800 baht/night, one block from the beach in jomtien. can't complain about a thing here. receptionist is even a knockout. got straight to drinking here locally, and found jomtien pretty much low-content. jumped a? taxi-truck? to pattaya for 10 baht and got off in paradise. let me sum it up with 2 words. sensory overload. women, girls, ladies (and if you like, lady boys), beer, wine, whiskey, food, lights, music, videos, traffic, pedestrians, animals, city, beach, i seriously felt like passing out from the shock. and i hadn't even seen walking street yet. i assume that "br" or "beach road" is the wide sidewalk along the beach in north pattaya where the sws all congregate, since that is what i passed by shortly before having to stop at a bar and further desensitize myself with another 3 jack and cokes. really couldn't walk around like that. erase what you may picture as a sw from your mind and replace her with lucy liu. multiply by 70 and add 15 off-prime girls, 10 oldies, and 5 lady-boys, there is 100%. every 1000 feet.

bars, limitless; mama-san and 2 of her older friends, in almost every one; at least 50% cute young girls to offset them. where do they all come from?

that factory must be doing 200% capacity, i could never have imagined such a high % of 7-10 girls in such a small city.

conversational english does seem to be hit or miss, so i meandered into my preferred style, here they are called go-go bars. not for the faint-of-heart.

only thing more impressive than so many beautiful asian girls is seeing them almost naked or better. appearances range from hot to pepper spray. i highly recommend finding one of the many locations with a glass-floored 2nd level and the stripper pole mounted there. sit underneath. that's all.

hard to believe, the "lady's drink" was less than mine. i pay 120 baht for a j&c, min. 80 at a street bar, theirs was only 100. mama-san and the tub-girls will ask you for one also, if you're not an pain in the ass and don't touch or stare, why bother? so here's where my mongering days end. down the pole slides my lady, what i thought was dejavu'. exactly, to the letter, the woman i had always dreamed about. 31; hair, eyes, face, skin, body. exact.

needless to say i happily paid the 600 baht bar fine, and agreed to her 2000 baht "long-time" price (assumed to be until noon of the following day). the night was exceptional, disregarding the slip-up when i attempted a backdoor intrusion. not welcome, but graciously forgiven.

the story ends there, gents, as i am retiring my condoms and lube and camera. we are on night 3 and i have my "miya". she is going to drive me out to phuket in her truck to see her plantation and family on friday.

i can imagine that one of you may have passed time with her, that matters not. i have heard the 3-day warning speech, and do not care.

when a woman pays her own 20000 baht contract in front of you and begins paying for your meals, pay attention.

ps. the lovemaking is the best i've ever had in 16 years of activity. i guess it is different when she really does love you. f you to all of my xs.

thanks guys. good luck, leave some food for buddha.

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