Nairobi

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2219321]Or, are there new places to hookup?

It's been a few years since I did my research. Got sick and never made it. Now better and getting ready for a trip.

Black Diamond.

Casablanca.

Club Dolce.

Florida 2000.

Madhouse.

Simba Saloon.

Simmers.

Havana & Bacchu's Lounge.

Tacos.

Club Pango.

Red Tape.[/QUOTE]Floridas both gone but a new one is in town. Simmers is gone. Bachus and Havana still going as is Black Diamond.

Central park hotel is 4 or 5 k a night, is ok but little noisy. Hotel Metro is basic but ok 4 to 5 k.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2219321]
Hotels: looking for something comfortable and that won't land me in a taxi for hours each night (close to Westlands or Koinange?

10,000 - 15,000.

Another?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I recommend going AirBnB or similar. You can get an entire apartment, much better quality that 90% of hotels here, for 2500 KSh or higher per night. With less drama / comedy than dealing w / hotels. Within a less-than 30-minute radius drive of CBD.

And all flats are intrinsically girl-friendly.

My first African soiree.

So I'm a long term lurker here and really appreciate the trip details on this site.

I'm going to be in Mtwapa and Bamburi from October 28. Nairobi in middle November. Its my first time to Africa but I love those African girls. I've traveled allot to Thailand and Philippines and am not unused to mongering. But I will be careful. I've booked the first 4 days in a airbnb apartment in Bamburi beach and then will explore for other options. I will try and run an updated trip report as I go along as I feel the need to add to the forum. Updates as I go.

I've checked the details of hotels for Nairobi on here but can't seem to find any recommendations fro the westland area that are not over $100 per night. Is this a normal price for this area. I've been looking at the hotel Emerald which is OK but expensive compared to other places. I'm so spoilt by Thailand and Pattaya prices and choice.

Use an Airbnb.

[QUOTE=Grego62;2220834]My first African soiree.

So I'm a long term lurker here and really appreciate the trip details on this site.

I'm going to be in Mtwapa and Bamburi from October 28. Nairobi in middle November. Its my first time to Africa but I love those African girls. I've traveled allot to Thailand and Philippines and am not unused to mongering. But I will be careful. I've booked the first 4 days in a airbnb apartment in Bamburi beach and then will explore for other options. I will try and run an updated trip report as I go along as I feel the need to add to the forum. Updates as I go.

I've checked the details of hotels for Nairobi on here but can't seem to find any recommendations fro the westland area that are not over $100 per night. Is this a normal price for this area. I've been looking at the hotel Emerald which is OK but expensive compared to other places. I'm so spoilt by Thailand and Pattaya prices and choice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grego62;2220834]I'm so spoilt by Thailand and Pattaya prices and choice.[/QUOTE]There in lies the reality that this is by far not Thailand, hehe. AirBnB protects you from walk of shame, but if you go cheap with ABB in Kenya, you could wind up in a dump that the owner won't even meet you at, you need to keep a close eye on prepaid electrical (a pain in the ass), lazy security, no heat (its cold in Sep.), and on, and on. Read my post on Emerald. Not a bad place really. You just have to accept that this is Africa, and you need to tolerate 50 to 75 yo hotels to get into that juicy black booty.

[QUOTE=Grego62;2220834]I've checked the details of hotels for Nairobi on here but can't seem to find any recommendations fro the westland area that are not over $100 per night. Is this a normal price for this area. I've been looking at the hotel Emerald which is OK but expensive compared to other places. I'm so spoilt by Thailand and Pattaya prices and choice.[/QUOTE]This is the trouble with going with hotels in a place like Kenya: there's so much dirty money here from China, Russia, even Greece, plus it's the second biggest country to open shell companies (the US is 1st -- Go 'Murica!) that it's inflating all kinds of high-price commodities like property, hotels and 'luxury' goods in the country.

That's the truth of Kenyan economic 'strength': it's the money-laundry capitol of Africa.

Sorry for the economics lesson. Back to AirBnB.

I can't speak for the coast, but I've done several Nairobi rentals.

Although you do have to be careful with dubious listings -- everywhere, not just in Kenya. But especially here. -- the more you're paying over $25, your chance of falling into dumps goes DOWN exponentially.

The biggest headache you'll run into for such places is over-pricing. But for the same reasons hotels try to stick it to us: e. G. Paying for name or reputation over quality; paying for location over amenities; hosts that provide the most basic amenities, but still equal to what you would get in a much-higher-priced hotel, etc.

I've rented several under-$20 spots, and you get what you pay for. If you need or expect anything fancy, you'll be sorely disappointed. Still, the places I've rented are safe (-ish), clean, conveniently located, large in space (one 1 BR flat had walk-in closets. I've never seen that, ever, in Kenya. Of course, the building was old as fcuk). Only one of them was actually worth more than its price, barely, because it offered some amenities that a few over-$20 places did not.

Although I don't recommend going under-20, especially if you're new to (under) developed countries like Kenya, the best way to screen ABB listings is like screening dating profiles:

It's more important what's NOT shown. For example, if there's no pic of the toilet, tub or bathroom, the bathroom is going to be a shitroom.

Some places list fake pics. Duh! Be skeptical. The fewer number of pics, be more skeptical.

If you see any listing saying they have a hottub (yup, go search for that), fcuk it.

If you're ready to take the plunge, book ONE night. This way, you limit the risk. Have a Plan-be spot queued to book if the first one isn't good enough.

Avoid any listing that posts more pics about tourist attractions than about the apt itself.

Beware that the better / best under-20 spots are on the 4th or 5th floor of a no-elevator building. The apt & views are usually worth it, but in exchange for exercise. The hosts are supposed to put that in the description, but. This is Kenya.

Gentlemen.

Must see educational video offers excellent insight in the mindsets of kenchics.

[URL]https://youtu.be/DUPguWeW2gw[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/1RgYBXNCa64[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/uJIpE5wT_Ec[/URL]

Enjoy.

And. Before you fall in love. Never forget. It's only about pesa pesa pesa.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2228663]Gentlemen.

Must see educational video offers excellent insight in the mindsets of kenchics.

[URL]https://youtu.be/DUPguWeW2gw[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/1RgYBXNCa64[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/uJIpE5wT_Ec[/URL]

Enjoy.

And. Before you fall in love. Never forget. It's only about pesa pesa pesa.[/QUOTE]Absolutely spot on! Well at least women do tell the truth here, unlike many European (Ukraine, Slovenia, etc) & Indian girls.

Hi guys,

Regarding Parklands Shade club, Does the nightclub usually have WGs looking for customers there.

I was thinking to stay in Parklands shade, which could be an ideal hotel to pick and fuck in the same place / hotel.

Another friend advised me about Sirona Hotel in Parklands, as another good option.

I saw some reviews about Sirona describe the place as brothel!

I'm a little confused in fact.

I lost months and a lot of money until I realize this simple fact, and even if you met her after you just landed don't tell her that she is your first experience in the country, you are giving her the hope to rip you off.

Very wise words bro!

[QUOTE=XXL;2203498]Rule for black Africa: never have girls waiting for you when you land. Such girls will think they have a discoverer right over you. You'll waste days and money getting rid of them. The 1st disco you'll visit on your 1st night will show you 10 times more girls 10 times better-looking than the pre-booked ones.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hamodaaso1180;2228895]Hi guys,

Regarding Parklands Shade club, Does the nightclub usually have WGs looking for customers there.

I was thinking to stay in Parklands shade, which could be an ideal hotel to pick and fuck in the same place / hotel.

Another friend advised me about Sirona Hotel in Parklands, as another good option.

I saw some reviews about Sirona describe the place as brothel!

I'm a little confused in fact.[/QUOTE]Do not stay at Sirona. I am pretty sure it is a shithole.

At Parklands Shade, there will be girls for sure, and it is very central so if you don't find anyone there, then you can move around very quickly with an uber to get what you want.

Not sure about room quality though.

Thank you bro for the info.

I stayed before in Parklands for 2 days in a business visit, so I were sleeping early with no chance to check the night life there.

So I'm confident about the room quality compared to the offered room rate, at least it's good enough for the laid.

Thank you again.

[QUOTE=ChumpPlum;2239256]Do not stay at Sirona. I am pretty sure it is a shithole.

At Parklands Shade, there will be girls for sure, and it is very central so if you don't find anyone there, then you can move around very quickly with an uber to get what you want.

Not sure about room quality though.[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

This is my first report here and hopefully not my last. I'm going to try and update every day as long as I don't get distracted. LOL.

Well I arrived yesterday via Mombassa airport and via Nairobi. I flew with fly 540 from Nairobi and will never fly with them again. The flight was delayed by 2 hrs but I count myself lucky as some people were waiting for over 6 hrs. Terminal 2 in Nairobi is not a nice place.

When the flight left the plane lurched of the airport and they turned off all the lights in the plane so we were. Left in complete darkness until we reached altitude. I've never experienced anything like it and I hope I never will. So avoid fly 540 if you value your life.

Arrived at Mombasa airport and was picked up by the airbnb hosts dodgy taxi driver friend who tried to charge me 3000 kes to take me to cowrie shells. Thank fuck for the forum so I told him what the rate was and he left an unhappy man.

Day 2 started with a weird breakfast at the restaurant here andf then I fired up the phone and got badoo going. Not allot of luck with Badoo, plenty of fishing but no fish yet.

I got bored and went to the naivas shopping centre and topped up the phone and bought some groceries.

Plenty of sexy women at the shopping centre.

Feeling adventurous I took a tuktuk to mtwapa. I loved the ride as I was excited to finally get to see the place. It was pretty busy in Mtwapa and women all over the place. I saw even more working women as I went down the side street which leads to hibiscus.

To this date I have not handled any women. I was sort of offered a meet up from a chick on wechat but declined as I felt she was more of a professional and I did not want to do this before I tried the clubs in Mtwapa. I'm just on my way to Mtwapa as it's getting close to the best time to go to Casaurinas. LOL.

See you all soon.

I stayed for a few days in NBO (Nairobi) in Westland area. I have not been here for about 10 years. This place got fairly expensive. E. g. Hotel Embassy was at that time 20€ now about 50€.

A pizza at a Mall, costs you about 1000 ksh = 10€.

A meal will be about 800 ksh! You get a lunch meal already for 600 ksh in Europe! I asked waitress at Westgate Mall how much she earns. 16.000 Ksh she said, which is 150€/ month. Ok noisy downtown near River road will be different, cheap food like always.

NBO got safe at least in an area like Westlands, etc. Motobike taxi (BodaBoda) from 100 ksh on, Uber taxi from 150 ksh, great thing this Uber. What a nightmare on the old days when taxi drivers assembled before restaurants and hotels and would hunt f their customers even asking 500 ksh f short distances. They preferred sitting f 2 hours silently in the car without moving, once they had their prey they were merciless.

Went to "Black Diamond Club" on Sunday 10 pm. Nice ambience, all kind of girls, great life band.

Great music sometimes at "The Alchemist" a kind of modern beer garden, mostly for couples. Sunday afternoon with life band.

Same with "K1" a modern beer garden, cute people, and flee market on Sundays and a Hotel too on the premises.

But as I told, am still missing a substitute for old Florida atmosphere!! Anybody knows?

But not to compare with mad Florida Disco in the old days, where 1/2 naked girls squirrelled around. Have no idea to which hot disco they are heading now.

John.

Ok will post some cute sexy photo under "Mombasa" for your eyes.

[QUOTE=SafariEscorts;2254333]I am a Nairobian, born & raised here. I also drive uber part time and have seen how the tourists love the local black and slim ladies.

I created an escort site where you get a girl of your choice according to age, services, location, a clear photo and her phone number. The girls offers both incall & outcall services.

Now you can come for the safari in Africa.

[URL]https://www.nairobidivas.net[/URL][/QUOTE]All photos are copy from adder websites like Kenyaraha end 10 adder sites.

Willyboy's right! -- nobody's going to fall for your scam site bullshit, GTFOH! Hahahaha!

[QUOTE=SafariEscorts;2254333]I am a Nairobian, born & raised here. I also drive uber part time and have seen how the tourists love the local black and slim ladies.

I created an escort site where you get a girl of your choice according to age, services, location, a clear photo and her phone number. The girls offers both incall & outcall services.

Now you can come for the safari in Africa.

[URL]https://www.nairobidivas.net[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2161805]Planning the epic Ethiopian Shag tour.[/QUOTE]Need more information on this please.

[QUOTE=Cynicalist;2256750]Need more information on this please.[/QUOTE]Buy yourself an airticket to Addis. The airport code is ADD. But before. Read the Bradt Guide on Ethiopia by far the best. Read through all the posts in the ISG Ethiopia forum. Read books on the history, geography and study the climate charts. Learn basic Tigrinya Oromo and Amharic. Plan you route with Aircraft and public bus systems. Mark all important points SWs Clubs etc on Google maps. And you're done. Thats what I did.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2256449]Willyboy's right! -- nobody's going to fall for your scam site bullshit, GTFOH! Hahahaha![/QUOTE]If I need a website for overpriced malayas in Nairobi I should better stay at home. Unless I am a Business traveller who never leaves the safety of the Hilton Nairobi.

Neddy.

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Was in Nairobi recently. Checked in to a Four Star Hotel near west end mall. It's a good business hotel, that offers not much to rejuvenate. Dead tired after days work I made my way to the rooftop bar. Wanted to relax a bit with a glass of drink and then retire. At the bar, however, I found new energy on spotting a lade all alone at the drinks pavilion. Inevitably our eyes met and the sharp brains caught each other's minds. I bought her a drink and soon after she was in my room. Rosy as she introduced her self, which definitely not her real name, was tall, dark, beautiful and talkative. We talked a lot on many subjects of common interest before indulging in our long passionate session. She was sincere in her work tried her best to please me using all her experience. The $100 Bill I paid to her was well spent and she deserved every dollar of it. Nairobi is a desert for those who want to find decent and quality stuff and she was an oasis.

[URL]https://africapay.org/kenya/salary/minimum-wages/[/URL]

You paid her a MONTH wages of a kenyan nightwatchman.

A third would have been appropriate for a 4* hotel. And the currency in Kenya is the kenyan shilling.

Neddy.

I spent a few weeks in Nairobi after leaving Mombasa which I thought was a bit too slow for my adventures. For those curious about Mombasa, the women are more welcoming than the women in Nairobi and $20-$30 will seal the deal for the night. Some of the women have considerable backside on them but they lack in the facial department in comparison to the women in Nairobi. Ok, on to Nairobi.

I thought I saw the strangest women when I was in Pattaya and the women more concerned with partying and having a good time than getting paid. I think Nairobi women take the cake and have the Pattaya women beat.

First things first, these women worship a guy buying them drinks. Doesn't matter if their drink is full either, still they want you to offer them a drink. If they're with friends, they want you to buy them a drink as well. I had several encounters over buying drinks or the lack thereof. It's mind boggling how these women think. Here is one story: Meet this gal at a club where her and her friend are drinking prior to me arriving. Bill comes for the drinks prior to my arrival and she me wants me to pay for it. I refuse, she gets upset and pays for the drinks. I get the next round and after ordering, she wants to start ordering all types of shit for her and her friend. Had to tell her to relax. She then doesn't want to go with me because I don't want to buy her and her friend all these exotic drinks. Left money out of her pockets for some alcohol which she could of bought with the money earned.

2. The women can come off as arrogant especially the non-pro women. Not all of the women you see out in the regular club (Black Diamond is not a regular club ha) are working girls so you have to tread the waters carefully. The working women don't want to be asked "how much?" Some will just walk away if you ask too quickly. They find it as being disrespectful although we both know what they do. It appears they don't value money as highly as women in other cities hence their behavior to walk away from it.

3. They will quote you with some outrageous prices. Most I've been initially quoted with is $300. Many can be had for $50 but this isn't Mombasa. You're not getting a solid 7 or better for $30. When they quote me with the crazy prices, I just tell them I'm not white and refuse to pay the exaggerated prices. They laugh and say the white guys pay them the $100 willingly. Everybody pockets are different and some don't like to negotiate and are fine with overpaying. I'm just not one of them. With that said, there was one women I brokered a deal with. She was slim thick and pretty. We danced the night away and drank. Towards the end, she said she wanted $100. I started at $50. She wasn't budging off the $100 but was cute about her negotiation. I used the strategy which I deploy when needed and told her I'd give her $70 and the extra $30 if she was good. She agreed. We had sex for about 2. 5 hours and I busted 3 nuts. She earned that $100 LOL. Later when I left and was at the airport, she told me a story where she charged a guy $300. Said he was a quickie and thereafter gave him a sob story about her having a kid and needed money. Said he gave her an additional $700 that night and wished her well in life LOL.

4. The women don't stay glammed up. You're not getting that feminine quality like you see in Brazil, Colombia, Costa Rica, etc. For me, seeing badly chipped toenails is a major turn off. Just makes my Jimmy go down.

On the bright side, these Nairobi women have phat asses and they know how to give head aka a BJ. When it comes to the sucking department, they're definitely underrated on a global scale. Their vaginas are also special, both in Nairobi and Mombasa. It's like a suction cup, literally squeezes the cum out of you. Such a wonderful feeling.

All in all, Nairobi is a place I wouldn't go back to unless there was business to be done. Below are some of the places to go where there is a good crowd:

K1 - Tuesday Night.

Js Fresh Bar. Thursday Night (loads and loads of talent here).

Kiza, Brew Bistro, Alchemist, 40 Forty for the weekend.

[QUOTE=Rohak;2266881]Was in Nairobi recently. Checked in to a Four Star Hotel near west end mall. It's a good business hotel,...….xxx...... The $100 Bill I paid to her was well spent and she deserved every dollar of it. Nairobi is a desert for those who want to find decent and quality stuff and she was an oasis.[/QUOTE]Neddy's comment is spot on. Perhaps from the country where you come from its normal to over pay in $ as well to make up stories: Nairobi got some very hardened pro's looking for idiots every night. But there are many sweet ladies to be found for 1500 to 3000 KSH if you push the right button.

And why is the hotel name a secret here?

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2267339]Neddy's comment is spot on. Perhaps from the country where you come from its normal to over pay in $ as well to make up stories: Nairobi got some very hardened pro's looking for idiots every night. But there are many sweet ladies to be found for 1500 to 3000 KSH if you push the right button.

And why is the hotel name a secret here?[/QUOTE]Thanks to the friends on this forum for your advice on the rates. Your advice will certainly help me avoid overpaying next time.

Went to Sabina joy in town to watch the football, it is not like it was in the past with the table dancers etc. There are always girls looking for business but they are not as up front anymore. They range from 3's to 8's.

After I went to Black diamond in Westlands, as it is Sunday before NYs it was not so busy, around a dozen women on the hunt.

I got chatting to a half Arab and half Kenyan from the coast, light brown skin, early 30's so she was different to my chocolate brown early 20's here, said she wanted 7 k which I laughed at, she came down to 4 k, I countered with 3 k and she said lets meet in the middle and off we went.

Poor sucking skills but she made up for it with a very tight pussy which I had to try several times try not to come too quickly in.

She was happy with the money and said she can now party for NY.

Thinking about doing another Africa trip in the coming months. Last time I did SA and Kenya. Enjoyed both quite well. I did enjoy SA more as that was my first leg and I was the most flush with cash. When I got to Nairobi, during peak rainy season at that, I was quite slow due to my escapades in Jo'Burg.

I like ladies of the big booty variety so it seems Jo'Burg may be on the cards again as will Nairobi and Kampala this time around. Seems like Kampala is the cheapest of the bunch for the type of women I'm looking for.

Either way, should be a good time. Nairobi is always fun, had a great time there.

Arrived in Nairobi on the new year day. Stayed at a Five-star Hotel which from out appears to be fading. Anyway, after many hrs of sleep, woke up, ventured out to mitigate hunger of the belly and below. Satisfied the belly with nice African food in nearby food court. Subsequently, wasted time and money over beers in a few nightclubs and got disappointed with the quality of girls who were ready to go with me to the hotel. I go hungry but would never take the risk with cheap stuff. Decided to return empty-handed and got back to the Hotel. Any leads on classy girls from friends in this forum of would be received gratefully and favour will be returned to the best of my information.

The next day, returned from official engagement, early and went to the spa in the hotel. There were two therapists, one aged and the other one was young. The younger one was just ushered by another client just as I entered the spa. The older lady guided me to the therapy room. I settled for just the massage as her appearance can douse even 10 viagras. Anyway, the lady gave me a nice hard massage at the back. While massaging, she pulled down the dispo and gave a terrific bum massage. I said great, go on. That gave her the courage to navigate her fingers down and caress my balls, thigh corners, while occasionally greeting the junior. Well, what her looks can't do, her fingers can definitely do. What followed was a fantastic HJ (with my eyes closed). Two more experiences from Central Nairobi in my next post.

A question to the expert Nairobi mongers.

How much I should pay for a WG in Nairobi, I saw in the forum numbers around 1000 and 2500 ksh, but girls jumbing to completely different level of numbers.

Hardly got in K1 klubhouse a 4000 girl, (she requested 8 K first).

I'm a negotiator guy, but I'm not sure if I'm reaching the fair prices.

What price I should insist to get service with?

Hello folks,

It's my first trip to Nairobi and I read with interest the advise given here. However, I am still unsure where to best book a girl-friendly hotel / apartment in Nairobi in order to be close to the action.

Any recommendation you might have would be much appreciated!

Thanks, P.

[QUOTE=PeterStran2019;2288322]Hello folks,

It's my first trip to Nairobi and I read with interest the advise given here. However, I am still unsure where to best book a girl-friendly hotel / apartment in Nairobi in order to be close to the action.

Any recommendation you might have would be much appreciated!

Thanks, P.[/QUOTE]Hi Peter,

If you get any replies it will be mostly RTFF and they do have a point. However I'm a newbie too and I kinda feel your situation. If you read last years posts about Nairobi you'll probably find some answers and additional wisdom. What I do is look at the reviews in eg tripadvisor and the 2 ratings as in many cases it's due to "full of working girls" haha so I know that's my kinda place. Check Gypsy bar and Sarabi pool and supper club. You can also crack 25 posts and then PM some of the veterans.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=PeterStran2019;2288322]Hello folks,

It's my first trip to Nairobi and I read with interest the advise given here. However, I am still unsure where to best book a girl-friendly hotel / apartment in Nairobi in order to be close to the action.

Any recommendation you might have would be much appreciated!

Thanks, P.[/QUOTE]I'm making my first trip to Nairobi as well coming up. I went through the forum, and Naked Gunz is by far the guy to listen to on here, though he hasn't posted in a while. Check out his posts. I'm going to stay at Hotel Emerald in Westlands because it's right in the middle of the action.

[QUOTE=Hamodaaso1180;2277205]A question to the expert Nairobi mongers.

How much I should pay for a WG in Nairobi, I saw in the forum numbers around 1000 and 2500 ksh, but girls jumbing to completely different level of numbers.

Hardly got in K1 klubhouse a 4000 girl, (she requested 8 K first).

I'm a negotiator guy, but I'm not sure if I'm reaching the fair prices.

What price I should insist to get service with?[/QUOTE]Most girls will asm for around 8-10 k trying their luck. In Nairobi you pay more than other places in Kenya but I have always countered with 3 k and its worked. I would never go above 4 k myself, its a buyers market.

[QUOTE=PeterStran2019;2288322]Hello folks,

It's my first trip to Nairobi and I read with interest the advise given here. However, I am still unsure where to best book a girl-friendly hotel / apartment in Nairobi in order to be close to the action.

Any recommendation you might have would be much appreciated!

Thanks, P.[/QUOTE]Hotels can ask silly prices for the poor quality you get. I used to use Hotel central park or hotel metro in town for 4 k a night but the last few years I have used airbnb. Airbnb is the way to go IMO.

It's my first trip to Nairobi and I read with interest the advise given here. However, I am still unsure where to best book a girl-friendly hotel / apartment in Nairobi in order to be close to the action.

Any recommendation you might have would be much appreciated!

Hotel Emerald in Westlands is a good choice for your first trip its low season so just pay for one or 2 nights then you can negotiate a lower price the hotel is clean and they have safes in the room and the breakfast is pretty good if you arrive on weds or thurs you can stay at k1 not as nice 3500 ksh for a single room 500 bob for a extra guest included also a free breakfast. Thurs night is regee night a very good crowd very few wg but a lot of regular girls enjoying the music. If you arrive on thurs you don't have far to stumble back to your room.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2288891]Hotels can ask silly prices for the poor quality you get. I used to use Hotel central park or hotel metro in town for 4 k a night but the last few years I have used airbnb. Airbnb is the way to go IMO.[/QUOTE]Hi Mombie,

Emerald seems neat and even better if it's close to the action. I understand if you book double occupancy and you go in with "your" girl it's OK. Or is it like in mombasa? Some are girlfriendly and some are not. A girl I was going to meet said she needed an "invite" so that got me thinking. Will check out central park and metro. Thanks for the information.

Cheers.

Seems I was wrong and you can't just walk in with a girl of the night to all hotels. These are the ones I read are GF alltho the people at the reception may ask for a fee.

Hilton Nairobi (big surprise).

Kenya Comfort.

Sentrim 680 (also big surprise).

Sarova Stanley (even bigger surprise).

Hotel Metro.

Central Park hotel.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=PeterStran2019;2288322]Hello folks,

It's my first trip to Nairobi and I read with interest the advise given here. However, I am still unsure where to best book a girl-friendly hotel / apartment in Nairobi in order to be close to the action.

Any recommendation you might have would be much appreciated!

Thanks, P.[/QUOTE]When I went there last, I got an Air Bnb in Westlands. Most places are about 10 minutes away by Uber (Brew Bistro, Westlands, K2, Liddos etc).

Was private and had all the amenities I needed. Brought girls through with no problem.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2289404]It's my first trip to Nairobi and I read with interest the advise given here. However, I am still unsure where to best book a girl-friendly hotel / apartment in Nairobi in order to be close to the action.

Any recommendation you might have would be much appreciated!

Hotel Emerald in Westlands is a good choice for your first trip its low season so just pay for one or 2 nights then you can negotiate a lower price the hotel is clean and they have safes in the room and the breakfast is pretty good if you arrive on weds or thurs you can stay at k1 not as nice 3500 ksh for a single room 500 bob for a extra guest included also a free breakfast. Thurs night is regee night a very good crowd very few wg but a lot of regular girls enjoying the music. If you arrive on thurs you don't have far to stumble back to your room.[/QUOTE]Woodemere is the best. No questions asked. Security at the gate was even surprised on the day I came back from clubbing all alone. Wanted to know why I didn't have company for the night!

[QUOTE=Amha;2290112]Woodemere is the best. No questions asked. Security at the gate was even surprised on the day I came back from clubbing all alone. Wanted to know why I didn't have company for the night![/QUOTE]I like the part about no questions asked. Does it have AC? I mailed Emerald last night asking if it was girl friendly and got a replaying saying it's allowed to bring guests to your room for a fee of 25 dollar. Also read Sentrim 680 charges 20 dollar if you bring a girl. But that was 2 years ago, now it's probably 25 dollar but maybe depends on the receptionists. Emerald has a night club and a lady wrote and gave it a low rating and called the place "a night club with rooms". But the place as Peter says, is close to lots of clubs, pharmacy, restaurants, etc. Hope this info help at least somebody.

[QUOTE=Taurus71;2290154]I like the part about no questions asked. Does it have AC? I mailed Emerald last night asking if it was girl friendly and got a replaying saying it's allowed to bring guests to your room for a fee of 25 dollar. Also read Sentrim 680 charges 20 dollar if you bring a girl. But that was 2 years ago, now it's probably 25 dollar but maybe depends on the receptionists. Emerald has a night club and a lady wrote and gave it a low rating and called the place "a night club with rooms". But the place as Peter says, is close to lots of clubs, pharmacy, restaurants, etc. Hope this info help at least somebody.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, No AC.

[QUOTE=Taurus71;2290154]I like the part about no questions asked. Does it have AC? I mailed Emerald last night asking if it was girl friendly and got a replaying saying it's allowed to bring guests to your room for a fee of 25 dollar. Also read Sentrim 680 charges 20 dollar if you bring a girl. But that was 2 years ago, now it's probably 25 dollar but maybe depends on the receptionists. Emerald has a night club and a lady wrote and gave it a low rating and called the place "a night club with rooms". But the place as Peter says, is close to lots of clubs, pharmacy, restaurants, etc. Hope this info help at least somebody.[/QUOTE]Is AC needed in Nairobi? It gets very cool at night.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2291478]Is AC needed in Nairobi? It gets very cool at night.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mombie and Amha.

Maybe it's not needed, I have been in touch with a few girls, well actually a lot and like you say Mombie most complain about cold nights but one or two have complained about the heat during the day. I will land in Nairobi but want to stay 3-4 nights in the capital before flying to Mombasa. So far Emerald seem the best option for me (I'm a newbie) as it appears to be located on a"neon distric" plus with its own night club. Hotel already confirmed some gilrfriendlyness since it's allowed to bring girls to your room unfortunately for a fee of 25 bucks. I don't know if this is a forbidden subject because I haven't seen a single post about it but is it possible to buy Cialis over the counter? I haven't found much about it on the internet either, not about Kenya anyway. Alltho a couple of girls told me you can buy anything in Kenya so I'm guessing it is.

[QUOTE=Taurus71;2291913]..... is it possible to buy Cialis over the counter? I haven't found much about it on the internet either, not about Kenya anyway. Alltho a couple of girls told me you can buy anything in Kenya so I'm guessing it is.[/QUOTE]In Kenya you will find almost every few hundred meters a pharmacy (or chemist, as it is called) that sells generic Viagra for 1 $ each.

[QUOTE=Taurus71;2291913]Thank you Mombie and Amha.

Maybe it's not needed, I have been in touch with a few girls, well actually a lot and like you say Mombie most complain about cold nights but one or two have complained about the heat during the day. I will land in Nairobi but want to stay 3-4 nights in the capital before flying to Mombasa. So far Emerald seem the best option for me (I'm a newbie) as it appears to be located on a"neon distric" plus with its own night club. Hotel already confirmed some gilrfriendlyness since it's allowed to bring girls to your room unfortunately for a fee of 25 bucks. I don't know if this is a forbidden subject because I haven't seen a single post about it but is it possible to buy Cialis over the counter? I haven't found much about it on the internet either, not about Kenya anyway. Alltho a couple of girls told me you can buy anything in Kenya so I'm guessing it is.[/QUOTE]Book one night mate. What does night club on premises mean. Noise. Until 5 in the morning. AC? Who needs AC in Nairobi? Never prebook. Max one night. Than you see how you like it. I slept once in a low cost hotel on top of Sabina Joy. In the fourth floor the whole building was vibrating from the sound system 3 floors below. Bring the best quality earplugs you can afford.

Neddy.

Who NEVER prebooks in Africa.

Arrived from mombasa staying at hotel metro at koinange street cheapest room here for 2 is twin room 4000 bob without breakfast I try bargain little bit for 3500 but no luck. At least this hotel not increasing prices couple of years already or more.

Sabina joy.

Have a nap and around 7. 00 pm evening decided to check sabina joy club try to look on google maps where it is but could find so done some search on google and find out its near ambassedeur station on moi avenue it was walkable distance from my hotel and easy to find because they have big sign on the building sabina club. Walk 2 or 3 floors upstairs, this place its aint bad looking and was fully packed with local guys and have 20-30 girls inside I was suprised this time on friday around 7. 30 evening it was full. I bought tucker lite for 220 bob and sit, some girls was coming to me and asking for drinks I just told them next time. Later I saw one cute girl and invite sit with me she was k 21 years old kamba girl. I bought her a drink have some conversation and ask how much she want for short time she told me 2000 bob I offered 1 k and she quickly agree. We finish drinks and went to short time rooms at the end of the club. Short time room price was 300 bob they give you free condom and piece of toilet paper. The girl was good and make me cum fast I give her 1 k and make some selfie together and I left. I will add photo of the short time room at sabina joy.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2293396]Arrived from mombasa staying at hotel metro at koinange street cheapest room here for 2 is twin room 4000 bob without breakfast I try bargain little bit for 3500 but no luck. At least this hotel not increasing prices couple of years already or more.

Sabina joy.

Have a nap and around 7. 00 pm evening decided to check sabina joy club try to look on google maps where it is but could find so done some search on google and find out its near ambassedeur station on moi avenue it was walkable distance from my hotel and easy to find because they have big sign on the building sabina club. Walk 2 or 3 floors upstairs, this place its aint bad looking and was fully packed with local guys and have 20-30 girls inside I was suprised this time on friday around 7. 30 evening it was full. I bought tucker lite for 220 bob and sit, some girls was coming to me and asking for drinks I just told them next time. Later I saw one cute girl and invite sit with me she was k 21 years old kamba girl. I bought her a drink have some conversation and ask how much she want for short time she told me 2000 bob I offered 1 k and she quickly agree. We finish drinks and went to short time rooms at the end of the club. Short time room price was 300 bob they give you free condom and piece of toilet paper. The girl was good and make me cum fast I give her 1 k and make some selfie together and I left. I will add photo of the short time room at sabina joy.[/QUOTE]Great post. I was thinking of checking out Sabina Joy while in Nairobi. How was the overall quality of the girls? I've heard mixed reviews.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2293396]Arrived from mombasa staying at hotel metro at koinange street cheapest room here for 2 is twin room 4000 bob without breakfast I try bargain little bit for 3500 but no luck. At least this hotel not increasing prices couple of years already or more.

Sabina joy.

Have a nap and around 7. 00 pm evening decided to check sabina joy club try to look on google maps where it is but could find so done some search on google and find out its near ambassedeur station on moi avenue it was walkable distance from my hotel and easy to find because they have big sign on the building sabina club. Walk 2 or 3 floors upstairs, this place its aint bad looking and was fully packed with local guys and have 20-30 girls inside I was suprised this time on friday around 7. 30 evening it was full. I bought tucker lite for 220 bob and sit, some girls was coming to me and asking for drinks I just told them next time. Later I saw one cute girl and invite sit with me she was k 21 years old kamba girl. I bought her a drink have some conversation and ask how much she want for short time she told me 2000 bob I offered 1 k and she quickly agree. We finish drinks and went to short time rooms at the end of the club. Short time room price was 300 bob they give you free condom and piece of toilet paper. The girl was good and make me cum fast I give her 1 k and make some selfie together and I left. I will add photo of the short time room at sabina joy.[/QUOTE]There's a hotel where I was charged 1800 a night called the Golden Goose Hotel. The downside is that it's in a out of the way street. It's near Accra Road but it's like the Smurf Village It's easy to miss it.

The rooms where OK they even had a working elevator and decent Cable TV The other slight negative is the bathroom floor isn't quite level so there's standing water which draws mosquitos.

But you can find decent Air BnB's for the same price though not in the CBD.

[QUOTE=IronQuinn;2293454]Great post. I was thinking of checking out Sabina Joy while in Nairobi. How was the overall quality of the girls? I've heard mixed reviews.[/QUOTE]Like somebody tolds before it ranks from 2 to 8 or simillar.

Go out around midnight checked brew bistro at fortis tower it was nice place but was so fully packed I could find a seat so I left have some food at havana and went to black diaomond. This place have good crowd I find a table order tusker lite for 350 bob and was watching girls I get some looks but I wasnt sure I want take girl tonight or not. Later 3 girls come and sit next to the bar they ordered a beers one was looking at me all the time I smile to her and she come to me say Hi.

She ask can she sit next to me I don't mind we have some conversation I offer her one more beer. She was 26 years old girl nice and polite. The music was playing loud and I ask her what is your tribe? Seems she don't heard me well and thought I asking what is your price? She smile and said its ok I see you nice guy you can give me anything you think I am worth in a morning. Most of the times I don't like this types of answers so I said I will give you 3000 bob if you stay with me till 8-9 am morning. She agree. I ask her tribe again and she told me she is luo.

We finish the beer jump on uber and reach hotel. We went to the room she takes her clothes quickly and said lets fuck I told her lets take shower first. She said lets fuck after we shower I was horny when I saw her naked so don't mind. She was good at bed BBBJ, ass licking, we fuck for a while after I take of condom and cum into her mouth.

I went to shower when I come back I saw her dressed up already and she told me give me money I am going. I said girl we agree you stay till 8-9 am morning and you leaving after 20 minutes. I give you 2 k and you can go not 3 k. She said no!! Its nairobi and its means nothing what I said
Silly mzungus always pays here. She makes me angry and we start arrgument its was just my principle not give for her this 1 k more. She starts act silly and shout I told her take 2 k and go or I throw you out. She take her phone and start calling somewhere and talk bullshit her mother is police and now I am finish when police come I will pay her 20000 bobs. This bullshit makes me more angry I take her shoes and wig and throw it out to hotel corridor. She get mad start to scream and call on phone again I said call whatever you want you not get this 1 k more. She start to talk with some girl on loudspeaker in shvahilli after in english and she introduce me like police officer her mum it makes me laugh and I told her. Do you know your daughter is proper silly bi.tch you should very proud of her? She was talking something more but I don't bother to listen this bullshit with police. I take her hand and push her out also to hotel carridor she start cream and shout outside. I walk to carridor locked my room doors and told her lets go to reception but she didint move so I left her at carridor.

I go to reception and call nightwatch and ask him to take this girl out. He come with me this girls was still standing next my room door with a wig in her hands and shoes. They start talking something in svahilli and we all go down to reception. I explain situation at reception and told I not give her this 1 k more better I put it into the bin because I know I am right and what I am agree with her. I left 2 k on reception desk and told to the girl you can take it and go or get nothing its up to you and I left back to my room.

Nightwatch ask me if the room have some damage I said no and he went check with me together. I told him sorry for all this noise she make but its my principle not pay her because I am right. He said me I know we understand it already from her lies at reception. I give him that 1 k and said share with reception girl for all disturb she makes her.
After 5 minutes I get phone call from reception girl she ask me everything is ok? I said is fine and ask did the girl left? She is told me she is leaving now. I thanks her and go sleep.

Some people who is reading this report and maybe never been in africa probably will not understand me and think why to make some dramas for small money? But for me its most important is my principles if I know I am right better I throw away this money to the bin or give for hotel stuff but not for some silly hoe who makes dramas and try scare you. If you not stood for yourself they will eat you alive here. My kenyan trip is over with not very happy endind but I will enjoy my time and I will comeback here again!!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2293597]

...Some people who is reading this report and maybe never been in africa probably will not understand me and think why to make some dramas for small money? But for me its most important is my principles...
[/QUOTE]
Very funny guy and nice principles... Some people already pay very high price for having principles in corrupt countries like Kenya. You are very lucky, that you came out of this - if the girl really works with Police then I hope you have friends, who will visit you in jail and pay the bribe for taking you out.

Ya. Black Diamond. I always negotiate ST for 2 k. So if she wants to stay I can always renegotiate. And 26 years way too old. That means she's in business almost 10 years. This ***** wanted to maximise profits to score another hit. Hardcore. And beer prices crazy now. Almost 3! Euros. Better go streethunting in the day. These Westlands bitches are too spoiled. Pity there is no reports now where the semi and nonpro chic's hang out in CBD since Simmers and Florida closed.

As I previously said. Go to Kampala. 40% cheaper.

[QUOTE=Beno69;2293662]Very funny guy and nice principles... Some people already pay very high price for having principles in corrupt countries like Kenya. You are very lucky, that you came out of this - if the girl really works with Police then I hope you have friends, who will visit you in jail and pay the bribe for taking you out.[/QUOTE]I agree. She might be bluffing. If not. It can get VERY expensive. As I said I always negotiate one shot.

The moral of the story here is to (probably) never take a girl with a wig back to your room.

btw. I think you need at least a fan in many of the Nairobi hotels even though it gets cool outside at night. In many places there is no to minimal air circulation... feels hot and stuffy inside a hotel room.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2293597]Go out around midnight checked brew bistro at fortis tower it was nice place but was so fully packed I could find a seat so I left have some food at havana and went to black diaomond. This place have good crowd I find a table order tusker lite for 350 bob and was watching girls I get some looks but I wasnt sure I want take girl tonight or not. Later 3 girls come and sit next to the bar they ordered a beers one was looking at me all the time I smile to her and she come to me say Hi.

She ask can she sit next to me I don't mind we have some conversation I offer her one more beer. She was 26 years old girl nice and polite. The music was playing loud and I ask her what is your tribe? Seems she don't heard me well and thought I asking what is your price? She smile and said its ok I see you nice guy you can give me anything you think I am worth in a morning. Most of the times I don't like this types of answers so I said I will give you 3000 bob if you stay with me till 8-9 am morning. She agree. I ask her tribe again and she told me she is luo.

We finish the beer jump on uber and reach hotel. We went to the room she takes her clothes quickly and said lets fuck I told her lets take shower first. She said lets fuck after we shower I was horny when I saw her naked so don't mind. She was good at bed BBBJ, ass licking, we fuck for a while after I take of condom and cum into her mouth.

I went to shower when I come back I saw her dressed up already and she told me give me money I am going. I said girl we agree you stay till 8-9 am morning and you leaving after 20 minutes. I give you 2 k and you can go not 3 k. She said no!! Its nairobi and its means nothing what I said
Silly mzungus always pays here. She makes me angry and we start arrgument its was just my principle not give for her this 1 k more. She starts act silly and shout I told her take 2 k and go or I throw you out. She take her phone and start calling somewhere and talk bullshit her mother is police and now I am finish when police come I will pay her 20000 bobs. This bullshit makes me more angry I take her shoes and wig and throw it out to hotel corridor. She get mad start to scream and call on phone again I said call whatever you want you not get this 1 k more. She start to talk with some girl on loudspeaker in shvahilli after in english and she introduce me like police officer her mum it makes me laugh and I told her. Do you know your daughter is proper silly bi.tch you should very proud of her? She was talking something more but I don't bother to listen this bullshit with police. I take her hand and push her out also to hotel carridor she start cream and shout outside. I walk to carridor locked my room doors and told her lets go to reception but she didint move so I left her at carridor.

I go to reception and call nightwatch and ask him to take this girl out. He come with me this girls was still standing next my room door with a wig in her hands and shoes. They start talking something in svahilli and we all go down to reception. I explain situation at reception and told I not give her this 1 k more better I put it into the bin because I know I am right and what I am agree with her. I left 2 k on reception desk and told to the girl you can take it and go or get nothing its up to you and I left back to my room.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience. Agreed with girl 3000 for all night. We go back to Kahama Hotel fuck once so far all good, fall asleep. I had forgotten 6000 ksh in pocket of jeans next my side of bed. I usually hide it before sleeping. In the morning I wake up and discover money is gone. I wake the girl and tell her we have a problem. I explain to her my suspicions and of course the drama starts. She gets dressed and now even though she already took 6000 from me she also demands the 3000 we had agreed on. When she got dressed I noticed she put the money under her wig. She threatens to call police, I call reception. I tell her I know where she has the money. Suddenly she needs to go the bathroom. I know in bathroom she put the money up her vagina.

Manager of Kahama John (nice guy, as far as I can tell) arrives and I explain what has happened. He asks girl if I can search her purse she approves and I do the search thoroughly. Then I tell John I want her body searched as well. John asks for cleaning lady to search her, again she approves. While cleaning lady and girl is in toilet I ask John is cleaning lady trustworthy? He says yes. Result of search is negative. I ask cleaning lady have you checked also inside vagina? No she says I cannot do that. Girl says let's go to police station and you will see what happens. Ok I say let's go! We ride in one car to police station with John. John greets someone inside station and tells me to call when all is finished so he can send taxi to come and pick me up. On the way to station I do not take my eyes of girl so she has no chance to hide money somewhere else. In station there is some waiting then the interrogation starts with me and girl at same time. I tell them my suspicions and then they listen to what the girl has to say. From the moment it all starts I quickly realize they are corrupt as fuck, I had read about it before here on the forum and in newspapers but I did not understand the scale of it!

First they held interrogation with girl in separate room and then it was my turn. They tell me it is very serious to accuse someone of a crime and try to scare me the best they can, they use phrases like "you are playing with the devil" "you will probably spend the night in a cell" it is very clear they want a bribe. I stand my grounds and tell them If a crime happens I of course have the right to report it even if I do not have any evidence. One of the officers is a female and is the absolutely most disgusting person I ever met. I tell you it was hard to keep cool then that * opened her mouth. They realize this is not going to be as easy as they fought. So now they change tactics. They tell me to go outside and wait. Male officer leaves room and female offices goes away for a minute and then comes back with gloves to bodysearch girl. Girl goes in and after a while she comes out again, female offices tells me to come and explains too me nothing was found, how unexpected, right? She tells me to pay girl the 3000 we had agreed on, no way I tell her, she will not get anything more from me. After a lot of arguing female officer realizes I will not pay girl and tell me too wait outside. After sometime male offices tells me I can leave with girl and that I should pay her. We argue some more and eventually even he gets tired of it. He tells me there must be something wrong with me because of all this arguing and the fact that I will stand my grounds no matter what. He actually looks chocked, he is probably used to getting the quick bribe.

So the result from the investigation is that girl looses 6000 ksh which male and female officers split between themselves. Now girl is even more desperate for that 3000 ksh and she wants it like if her life depended on it. He will not leave my side and I tell her I will call taxi to go back to hotel, "then I also come" she says. I realize this * is going to be like a leech until she gets that 3000 ksh. I think why not let her work a little for the money? So I tell her lets walk to hotel then. It is quite far so we argue some more and while walking she ask me if I am satisfied now that she has been humiliated, I tell her no but It is a good compensation for the money I have lost. Back at hotel I ask John how are we going to settle this? He tell me pay the girl or go back to back to police station, at station you will then have to wait until trial starts and that could probably take long time. I then walk to safety deposit box, gather 3000 ksh and give to girl with the comment "I hope you will spend these hard earned pennies wisely, see you at Black Diamond tomorrow?" Girl curses at me as she leaves the hotel.

So what have we learned from this? Do the preparations carefully too minimize the risk that situation like this will appear. Also I have too agree with Neddys advice, better to go Kampala if you do not have good connection in Nairobi that will watch your back if something like this happens. If John did not have his connection maybe it would have ended differently? I did visit Black Diamond 2 more nights and took other girls but my conclusion is that it is almost 99% hardcore ones. I have been with many girls in Kampala even the really hardcore ones and nobody has taken anything from me even if there where a chance, they are much more "down to earth", and the wallet does not complain either. And I know that the corruption within the Ugandan police is not as severe as in Kenya. Compared with most African nations Kenya is well developed but the police is a disgrace and the locals also agree on this. There will be many new charter lines leaving for Mombasa next year and I will with excitement follow how Mombasa and the coastal region will evolve. I think Nairobi is a shithole and not only because of my experience with the ladies, mostly because of the terrible traffic and risks that you face if you walk outside at night. In Kampala I can walk almost everywhere at night. I do though think that Kenyan ladies are more beautiful then Ugandan and the coastal region is nice, though a little too hot and humid. If you want perfect climate go to Entebbe.

[QUOTE=Tottem;2293863]I had a similar experience. Agreed with girl 3000 for all night. We go back to Kahama Hotel fuck once so far all good, fall asleep. I had forgotten 6000 ksh in pocket of jeans next my side of bed. I usually hide it before sleeping. In the morning I wake up and discover money is gone. I wake the girl and tell her we have a problem. I explain to her my suspicions and of course the drama starts. She gets dressed and now even though she already took 6000 from me she also demands the 3000 we had agreed on. When she got dressed I noticed she put the money under her wig. She threatens to call police, I call reception. I tell her I know where she has the money. Suddenly she needs to go the bathroom. I know in bathroom she put the money up her vagina.

Manager of Kahama John (nice guy, as far as I can tell) arrives and I explain what has happened. He asks girl if I can search her purse she approves and I do the search thoroughly. Then I tell John I want her body searched as well. John asks for cleaning lady to search her, again she approves. While cleaning lady and girl is in toilet I ask John is cleaning lady trustworthy? He says yes. Result of search is negative. I ask cleaning lady have you checked also inside vagina? No she says I cannot do that. Girl says let's go to police station and you will see what happens. Ok I say let's go! We ride in one car to police station with John. John greets someone inside station and tells me to call when all is finished so he can send taxi to come and pick me up. On the way to station I do not take my eyes of girl so she has no chance to hide money somewhere else. In station there is some waiting then the interrogation starts with me and girl at same time. I tell them my suspicions and then they listen to what the girl has to say. From the moment it all starts I quickly realize they are corrupt as fuck, I had read about it before here on the forum and in newspapers but I did not understand the scale of it!

First they held interrogation with girl in separate room and then it was my turn. They tell me it is very serious to accuse someone of a crime and try to scare me the best they can, they use phrases like "you are playing with the devil" "you will probably spend the night in a cell" it is very clear they want a bribe. I stand my grounds and tell them If a crime happens I of course have the right to report it even if I do not have any evidence. One of the officers is a female and is the absolutely most disgusting person I ever met. I tell you it was hard to keep cool then that * opened her mouth. They realize this is not going to be as easy as they fought. So now they change tactics. They tell me to go outside and wait. Male officer leaves room and female offices goes away for a minute and then comes back with gloves to bodysearch girl. Girl goes in and after a while she comes out again, female offices tells me to come and explains too me nothing was found, how unexpected, right? She tells me to pay girl the 3000 we had agreed on, no way I tell her, she will not get anything more from me. After a lot of arguing female officer realizes I will not pay girl and tell me too wait outside. After sometime male offices tells me I can leave with girl and that I should pay her. We argue some more and eventually even he gets tired of it. He tells me there must be something wrong with me because of all this arguing and the fact that I will stand my grounds no matter what. He actually looks chocked, he is probably used to getting the quick bribe.

So the result from the investigation is that girl looses 6000 ksh which male and female officers split between themselves. Now girl is even more desperate for that 3000 ksh and she wants it like if her life depended on it. He will not leave my side and I tell her I will call taxi to go back to hotel, "then I also come" she says. I realize this * is going to be like a leech until she gets that 3000 ksh. I think why not let her work a little for the money? So I tell her lets walk to hotel then. It is quite far so we argue some more and while walking she ask me if I am satisfied now that she has been humiliated, I tell her no but It is a good compensation for the money I have lost. Back at hotel I ask John how are we going to settle this? He tell me pay the girl or go back to back to police station, at station you will then have to wait until trial starts and that could probably take long time. I then walk to safety deposit box, gather 3000 ksh and give to girl with the comment "I hope you will spend these hard earned pennies wisely, see you at Black Diamond tomorrow?" Girl curses at me as she leaves the hotel.

So what have we learned from this? Do the preparations carefully too minimize the risk that situation like this will appear. Also I have too agree with Neddys advice, better to go Kampala if you do not have good connection in Nairobi that will watch your back if something like this happens. If John did not have his connection maybe it would have ended differently? I did visit Black Diamond 2 more nights and took other girls but my conclusion is that it is almost 99% hardcore ones. I have been with many girls in Kampala even the really hardcore ones and nobody has taken anything from me even if there where a chance, they are much more "down to earth", and the wallet does not complain either. And I know that the corruption within the Ugandan police is not as severe as in Kenya. Compared with most African nations Kenya is well developed but the police is a disgrace and the locals also agree on this. There will be many new charter lines leaving for Mombasa next year and I will with excitement follow how Mombasa and the coastal region will evolve. I think Nairobi is a shithole and not only because of my experience with the ladies, mostly because of the terrible traffic and risks that you face if you walk outside at night. In Kampala I can walk almost everywhere at night. I do though think that Kenyan ladies are more beautiful then Ugandan and the coastal region is nice, though a little too hot and humid. If you want perfect climate go to Entebbe.[/QUOTE]I had exactly the same situation in Gambia. ***** hid 300 Euros! in her snatch. Went to police. Of course they found "nothing" . Female security searched her. The only satisfaction I had was that the police took the money off her. Paid another 3000 dal. My most expensive shag ever.

What do we learn. Its ALWAYS our own fault by not properly stashing our money away. NEVER let your guard down. About Kampala. You have to watch your back there too. I am not sure if the police is less corrupt there. I honestly doubt it. But overall there is a lot more vultures in Kenya. Never had a serious issue in Uganda. And for that matter in Madagascar. Usually it's better to write off the money as being insistent you might screw yourself even more. As a rule of thumb give everything wearing uniform in Africa a wide berth. Stay away from the hardcores which with a little experience are easy to spot. Pay up your entrance fee to paradise.
Best tactic. Go to police. Get written report for stolen laptop or smartphone and collect insurance money.

Neddy.

Who wasn't ripped off since 2016.

I now noticed that both girls / thieves had wigs?

Just saying.

Catire. Who will never take a girl home who's wearing a wig.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2293667]I agree. She might be bluffing. If not. It can get VERY expensive. As I said I always negotiate one shot.[/QUOTE]Yet another very good piece of advice from you Ned. Was going to go for LTs only but with my level of experience it's better to just do STs, specially after reading these reports.

Thanks a bunch.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2293665]Ya. Black Diamond. I always negotiate ST for 2 k. So if she wants to stay I can always renegotiate. And 26 years way too old. That means she's in business almost 10 years. This ***** wanted to maximise profits to score another hit. Hardcore. And beer prices crazy now. Almost 3! Euros. Better go streethunting in the day. These Westlands bitches are too spoiled. Pity there is no reports now where the semi and nonpro chic's hang out in CBD since Simmers and Florida closed.

As I previously said. Go to Kampala. 40% cheaper.[/QUOTE]I like the westlands but as you say the sense of entitlement of those chicks is crazy. Everything in the Westlands is overpriced the food, the drinks the clothes in the malls and the women. Even the Uber prices from CBD are ridiculous. I've found it best to talk to shopgirls and shoppers in CBD, It's true you can pick up anywhere but in the CBD it seems to be the "agreed" upon spot so you don't risk offending a chick that's "off games". I personally like hanging out in westlands but you're paying western prices for everything.

I understand principles but I probably would've given her the 3 k. Personally I don't say anything about ST or LT if she says it she's superhardcore, In my experience chicks leave when you tell them to.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2294521]I like the westlands but as you say the sense of entitlement of those chicks is crazy. Everything in the Westlands is overpriced the food, the drinks the clothes in the malls and the women. Even the Uber prices from CBD are ridiculous. I've found it best to talk to shopgirls and shoppers in CBD, It's true you can pick up anywhere but in the CBD it seems to be the "agreed" upon spot so you don't risk offending a chick that's "off games". I personally like hanging out in westlands but you're paying western prices for everything.

I understand principles but I probably would've given her the 3 k. Personally I don't say anything about ST or LT if she says it she's superhardcore, In my experience chicks leave when you tell them to.[/QUOTE]The uber prices from cbd to Westlands for me always come up for 200/- a ride, this is from Hilton to diamond. I know one Nairobi girl wno hangs out in wWstlands, 5 ft, 40 dd, a real pocket rocket, she recently asked for 50 k for a full night. I laughed and told her 3 k, she laughed at me. She reckons she gets 50 k or near it from some mzungu Westlands goers. Entitled, it is becoming like that in the so called flash upmarket places.

As above, shops and malls, badoo, tinder, and approach the girls in the street is my way to go in Nairobi these days rather than these Westlands clubs.

Thanks for the reply.

Happy to know that I paid fair prices.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2288888]Most girls will asm for around 8-10 k trying their luck. In Nairobi you pay more than other places in Kenya but I have always countered with 3 k and its worked. I would never go above 4 k myself, its a buyers market.[/QUOTE]

Could you please send me the apartment Airbnb link, as I need to use it in my next trip to Nairobi.

[QUOTE=Zakmo;2289508]When I went there last, I got an Air Bnb in Westlands. Most places are about 10 minutes away by Uber (Brew Bistro, Westlands, K2, Liddos etc).

Was private and had all the amenities I needed. Brought girls through with no problem.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2294197] I am not sure if the police is less corrupt there. I honestly doubt it. But overall there is a lot more vultures in Kenya. Never had a serious issue in Uganda.[/QUOTE]Kenyan police are opportunists like no other, even going as far as changing into civilian clothes while on duty to commit a crime. The Ugandan police force has gone thru some changes over the last decade making it slightly worse, but it's still better than Kenya.

There's also a country parallel here when it comes to girls. Kenyan girls are more westernized and mentally quicker than their Ugandan counterparts making them more able to easily target tricks and 'capitalize' in these situations. That's not to say that Ugandans are above it, but it's far less likely to happen in Uganda.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2294197]Its ALWAYS our own fault by not properly stashing our money away. NEVER let your guard down.[/QUOTE]Whether it's Kenya or Uganda, the bottom line is that it all starts and ends with you. How you handle yourself, your money, your booze intake, your visibility to the police, where when and how you target and pick-up girls, how you screen them, what measures you take to mitigate risk and finally how you deal with the girl and possibly the police should things blow up.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2294529]The uber prices from cbd to Westlands for me always come up for 200/- a ride, this is from Hilton to diamond. I know one Nairobi girl wno hangs out in wWstlands, 5 ft, 40 dd, a real pocket rocket, she recently asked for 50 k for a full night. I laughed and told her 3 k, she laughed at me. She reckons she gets 50 k or near it from some mzungu Westlands goers. Entitled, it is becoming like that in the so called flash upmarket places.

As above, shops and malls, badoo, tinder, and approach the girls in the street is my way to go in Nairobi these days rather than these Westlands clubs.[/QUOTE]The girls are running competitions nowadays who is the top earner. The game is changing. As long as there is overpaying UN-Types and the likes. For them 10.000 ksh is pocket money. Better stick to daygame or choose an accommodation near a slum like kibera. On the fringes there is always joints and chicas. The girls are also facing rising cost of doing business like transport or drinks entrance fees.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2294529]The uber prices from cbd to Westlands for me always come up for 200/- a ride, this is from Hilton to diamond. I know one Nairobi girl wno hangs out in wWstlands, 5 ft, 40 dd, a real pocket rocket, she recently asked for 50 k for a full night. I laughed and told her 3 k, she laughed at me. She reckons she gets 50 k or near it from some mzungu Westlands goers. Entitled, it is becoming like that in the so called flash upmarket places.

As above, shops and malls, badoo, tinder, and approach the girls in the street is my way to go in Nairobi these days rather than these Westlands clubs.[/QUOTE]Are you talking about 50 000 K? 50 000? That's 500 USD.

ARE YOU SURE?

For that price I will never go to Africa for our hobby!

Is Africa already ruined monger wise?

[QUOTE=Golds;2295006]Is Africa already ruined monger wise?[/QUOTE]LOL I'm resisting telling you yes to keep down competition.

Africa is the last place to be ruined monger wise The problem is people rarely go to Africa so mainly the foreign mongers are expense account guys. When you're making 55 K USD living in a compound with a car and driver You're not concerned about overpaying for a girl. There was an Kenyan celebrity chick that messaged a man that she'd be willing for 500 USD But that's a exceptionally beautiful girl who was a celebrity in her own right. If I were an expense account NGO country director then I'd pay 500 to say I knocked off a celebrity. But since I'm a broke ass retiree I'll stick to the poor and unknown chicks for 2 to 3 K and that's for all night.

[QUOTE=Golds;2295006]Is Africa already ruined monger wise?[/QUOTE]Look at the population growth. There is prime pussy in abundance. KE TZ and UG have close to 150 million people now. You just need a different game plan. For me night clubs are entertainment only. At least in Nairobi except Sabina Joy. TZ Club Ambiance in Dar and Capital Pub in Kampala are ok price wise. Clubs in Westlands I don't bother any more. Too upmarket.

Any guesses how long this is going to go on? I'm in touch with a girl who works at Jomo Kenyatta and she was the one to tell me about the strike which I later saw on the news (nothing about it here in Europe). Alltho the news (Africa news) claim it's over, she told me the ground crew is still on strike and there are lots of delays and canceled flights.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Taurus71;2295637]Any guesses how long this is going to go on? I'm in touch with a girl who works at Jomo Kenyatta and she was the one to tell me about the strike which I later saw on the news (nothing about it here in Europe). Alltho the news (Africa news) claim it's over, she told me the ground crew is still on strike and there are lots of delays and canceled flights.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Back to normal, as much as I can tell. It was just that day or two. But very full flights.

Flight delays coming from Addis. Didn't get in until 9 pm.

Changed money right inside the airport which seemed a little low (97) - my app is showing 99.7. However once I left the interior of the airport the rates strangely got even worse (95/96).

Hotel picked me up and easy transfer into the city.

10:30 pm decided a smart thing to do would be stroll around Moi Ave and Tom Mboya. Looking for a knocking shop. After three blocks quickly realized this was not a smart idea = instead, it was a really dumb fucking idea. Maybe still culture shock but a ton of young guys hanging out, and maybe 2 approaches per block. Was getting more attention than I liked.

Dove into a taxi and asked to go to only place I could remember. Black Diamond. 500, not sure what's normal, but everything seems cheap after Djibouti.

11 pm place started filling up with expats and freelancers. At least 5 pretty hot girls I would have done, but too much beer and Xanax, or lack of drive, or just not knowing how it works. Read so many stories of Nairobi girls screaming and being pushed out of hotel rooms etc etc. Wanted to approach a skinny spinner at the bar, but meh. Just wasn't into it. Beer was pretty inexpensive 350, and the bar food was good enough.

There's a strip bar right across from BD? I wanted to go in. But my waitress already got a taxi for me, so just headed back to hotel around midnight. Better luck tomorrow (hopefully).

Need to do more research. Mostly interested in the streets around the center, strip bars, and river road. But now that I'm here. Seeing that it's a lot more hard core than I imagined.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2295947]Flight delays coming from Addis. Didn't get in until 9 pm.

Changed money right inside the airport which seemed a little low (97) - my app is showing 99.7. However once I left the interior of the airport the rates strangely got even worse (95/96).

Hotel picked me up and easy transfer into the city.

10:30 pm decided a smart thing to do would be stroll around Moi Ave and Tom Mboya. Looking for a knocking shop. After three blocks quickly realized this was not a smart idea = instead, it was a really dumb fucking idea. Maybe still culture shock but a ton of young guys hanging out, and maybe 2 approaches per block. Was getting more attention than I liked.

Dove into a taxi and asked to go to only place I could remember. Black Diamond. 500, not sure what's normal, but everything seems cheap after Djibouti.

11 pm place started filling up with expats and freelancers. At least 5 pretty hot girls I would have done, but too much beer and Xanax, or lack of drive, or just not knowing how it works. Read so many stories of Nairobi girls screaming and being pushed out of hotel rooms etc etc. Wanted to approach a skinny spinner at the bar, but meh. Just wasn't into it. Beer was pretty inexpensive 350, and the bar food was good enough.

There's a strip bar right across from BD? I wanted to go in. But my waitress already got a taxi for me, so just headed back to hotel around midnight. Better luck tomorrow (hopefully).

Need to do more research. Mostly interested in the streets around the center, strip bars, and river road. But now that I'm here. Seeing that it's a lot more hard core than I imagined.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind Senior Africa Mongers are experienced somewhat jaded mongers. Going on River road is kinda pointless even the bars there have severe hardcores there, I've made every noob mistake but the only time I paid for it was while walking around River road to see if there was a big difference even between Sabina joy girls and actual streetwalkers.

Short answer there is. You take a step down in looks and either there old or just worn out looking. I don't properly lock down my valuables at times yet the only time I "dropped" my phone (after being told several times to keep my phone out of sight) was on River Road. When I went to the ATM I noticed it was gone, I backtracked and I was told that I "dropped it" and I went ahead and gave her 4 k as a tip for finding my phone.

Thank god I have a strong password or I wouldn't have gotten it back. I went to a cell shop the next day and asked the guy could be break into my Iphone he said it was impossible.

Moral to the story stay away from River Road.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2295015] There was an Kenyan celebrity chick that messaged a man that she'd be willing for 500 USD But that's a exceptionally beautiful girl who was a celebrity in her own right. If I were an expense account NGO country director then I'd pay 500 to say I knocked off a celebrity.[/QUOTE]And now we all got curious who that Lady is.

Sabina Joy.

You walk up a few flights of stairs and alight in the middle of. A sausage fest. Place was very packed at 5:30 pm on a Saturday.

It's a dark railroad-flat style club - 3 rooms in a row. Two bars front / back. Beers like 220 or something. Looks like you take the girls upstairs to beds.

Unsure why this place gets as much love as it does on this board, if it's always as I experienced it. Maybe 8 or 10 guys per girl. And maybe only 12 - 14 girls in the place (yes, over 100 guys) and only 3 doable girls. The rest were fuglies and fatties. The guys were just sitting around holding their bottles, and the few doable girls were in the middle of a group of guys that were plying them with multiple rounds of drinks. Not exactly the knocking-shop I was hoping for.

Also curious what race most mongers are that like Nairobi. I've only been in Africa weeks and have yet to see another white guy in these type clubs (or Eithiopia, Djibouti, Somolia etc). When I see them they're at places like Blacks or the hotel bars. Are white guys really wandering in and out of Sabina Joy and River Road and all the rest solo?

Then walked to River Road - #61, only 4 girls outside, tried to go upstairs but the gate was locked on second floor. Girls said there were girls inside but they were sleeping. Really? At 6:30 pm? The available girls were not looking like they just got made up for the prom. So I passed. Sorry, I love to shag. But I'm not coming back here at night to monger. Walked down River to Chillers. But I couldn't find it. I didn't bring my phone with me. Just piece of paper / map. I thought you turned left on Kumsai (SP) street and it's the second block. No-one knew what I was talking about.

Backtracked to Applebees. It's on the corner and has changed it's name. Went upstairs and it appears to be closed. Second floor looks like it was once a club. But grate was locked and empty. Said 'reception upstairs' and again. Locked. Meh.

Dark by 7 pm so grabbed a taxi back to hotel. Personally, I wouldn't suggest ANY white guy (or any green, purple, polka-dotted) guy to make that walk. I got more hard stares, shoulder bumps, and teenage boys messing around with me then anywhere I've been.

Overall, can't impressed with Nairobi (so far) as a mongering destination. A lot of dodgy walking to the CBD / river clubs, very few good looking girls, and the city is literally fucked. Almost any other destination has offered a better yield. Jakarta, Addis, Havana, Colombia. You name it.

Loved the artwork on the buses though and some of the rundown aesthetic.

Might try some more of the regular bars tonight. But not walking along river or around Archive, Moi etc on my own again. With bright blonde hair and skin like a snowman I'm just asking for some bad shit to happen.

ElephantBeer,

Sabina joy was overhauled I believe a few years back, drastically changed. Now it is just another CBD bar with over loud music but does have women available as you say, whether on the day you find anything is another thing.

White mongers will be using badoo or tinder from comfy coffee shops or their hotels and arranging meets. They will also be going to the Westland bars on a weekend like Havana, Gypsy, Black diamond or Brew bistro. That is my MO in Nbi as well as hitting on anything I see in shops or on the street.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2296268]ElephantBeer,

Sabina joy was overhauled I believe a few years back, drastically changed. Now it is just another CBD bar with over loud music but does have women available as you say, whether on the day you find anything is another thing.

White mongers will be using badoo or tinder from comfy coffee shops or their hotels and arranging meets. They will also be going to the Westland bars on a weekend like Havana, Gypsy, Black diamond or Brew bistro. That is my MO in Nbi as well as hitting on anything I see in shops or on the street.[/QUOTE]Just to add to Brother Mombie's advice above, after Madhouse closed (relocated, but no longer a mongerers' paradise), F2 died and resurrected as yet another boring restaurant, and Simmers was cruelly bulldozed and landgrabbed, there are no similar places like them left in CBD. At least not for foreigners. Not even those strip clubs near Tom Mboya St, those places are lame.

There *is* (was?) a place called Mojo's, right next to Tribeka Bar, on Banda st, where I see a LOT of foreign guys hanging out. But the place is so loud, obnoxious, doesn't have any of the charm of Madhouse, I've never tried the place, nor am I appealed to do so.

Even so, the area is much safer & appealing than River Road. Since you seem adventurous, try there and give us a report.

I too have been amazed by the members here who have gone to Sabina Joy, even before it was 'cleaned up'. Back in its original days, I NEVER have gone there, and wouldn't even if the women were paying *me*. I still wouldn't, I can't imagine it being worth the cheap lay. I'ld rather spend more in Westlands, snotty uppity malaya and all.

I can't think of one place in CBD that I would recommend to any mongerer.

Nowadays, it's either Westlands bars, Brew Bistro on Ngong Rd (this is not in Westlands), or worse-to-worse (in terms of nonsensical highpriced action) Mercury Lounge in ABC Place or the bar at the pool in Intercontinental Hotel.

These are sad days for mongering in Nairobi. End of an era.

I haven't found anyplace in CBD worth pulling from. Stunning how lackluster the quality of girls were in Sabina. I walked along the street last night looking for a streetwalker. In my past I haven't been too particular about what I stick my dick into, but even I couldn't bear to pull the girls I saw lined up. I heard they were aggressive, but that wasn't the situation last night. Also, that's not the case for the 'street life'.

Stopped and watched a crowd gathered around a guy laying down in a closed shop-front getting the shit kicked out of him. Not sure what he did. But it was mob mentality.

Then I hopped in a cab to go to Black Diamonds, 2 min after I'm in. A teenager in red shirt runs right in front of taxi, I'm in front seat with window open so literally 3' away. Big motherfucking guy comes out of no-where. Grabs his shoulder and yanks him back into the street in front of us. Then over the next 5 min proceeds to hit him, do an awesome head butt, then flip open the back of his car and he and his buddies force him in the trunk and drive off. Not to mention the kids friends who got first pushed. Then punched in the face trying to help. A crowed gathered but no police. A security guard came over but it was too wild for him to wade in. We we stuck in the mob all around us with front-row seats since the trunk was about 4 ft from the front of our taxi. Having your taxi surrounded by violence and that crowd. With no exit was unnerving. I'm assuming the kid stole something and in the trunk he went. And off to police station. Or get beat up. Not sure.

These guys in CBD are fucking serious.

Black Diamond. I wanted to hit the strip club across the hall. But guess that's gone now. It's MUSE an empty club.

Same freelancers from the night before. A few cute girls, a few 50 yo foreigners dancing around drunk pretending they're 22 and yelling in the girls faces, all in all. Just same sad expat scene you can see from here to Hong Kong. Girls were okay, but seemed pretty stuck up with their knockoff Chanel bags and demure gazes. Wasn't worth the taxi back to CBD hotel, walk of shame, and $50 - $100 for a quick shag with a princess.

Will save it for Mombasa.

On the other hand. Went to Kibera and felt no bad vibe at all. Just a lot of people saying Hello, no hard stares, no shoulder bumps etc. CBD is the frigging worst.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2296268]ElephantBeer,

White mongers will be using badoo or tinder from comfy coffee shops or their hotels and arranging meets. They will also be going to the Westland bars on a weekend like Havana, Gypsy, Black diamond or Brew bistro. That is my MO in Nbi as well as hitting on anything I see in shops or on the street.[/QUOTE]For some reason. Had zero luck with Badoo. I signed up for a 3 month membership, dutifully filled out my profile, put up my 'okay' mug and have been trying to chat the girls in each country (Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somolia, Nairobi).

A lot of hit-and-runs, likes or 'Hi' etc. But when I chat and actually try to get them to meet, like 'right now' - get a bunch of excuses. 'Next week darling' or 'I'm occupied now'. Last night at midnight actually looking for an escort to come to the hotel - (was sort of desperate) but when I'd call either no pick up, or numbers wrong. Figure most of the escort sites are bait-and-switch regardless.

Maybe it's a long time thing. You have to start chatting them days (or weeks) in advance. Dunno.

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[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2296469]I haven't found anyplace in CBD worth pulling from. Stunning how lackluster the quality of girls were in Sabina. I walked along the street last night looking for a streetwalker. In my past I haven't been too particular about what I stick my dick into, but even I couldn't bear to pull the girls I saw lined up. I heard they were aggressive, but that wasn't the situation last night. Also, that's not the case for the 'street life'.

Stopped and watched a crowd gathered around a guy laying down in a closed shop-front getting the shit kicked out of him. Not sure what he did. But it was mob mentality.

Then I hopped in a cab to go to Black Diamonds, 2 min after I'm in. A teenager in red shirt runs right in front of taxi, I'm in front seat with window open so literally 3' away. Big motherfucking guy comes out of no-where. Grabs his shoulder and yanks him back into the street in front of us. Then over the next 5 min proceeds to hit him, do an awesome head butt, then flip open the back of his car and he and his buddies force him in the trunk and drive off. Not to mention the kids friends who got first pushed. Then punched in the face trying to help. A crowed gathered but no police. A security guard came over but it was too wild for him to wade in. We we stuck in the mob all around us with front-row seats since the trunk was about 4 ft from the front of our taxi. Having your taxi surrounded by violence and that crowd. With no exit was unnerving. I'm assuming the kid stole something and in the trunk he went. And off to police station. Or get beat up. Not sure.

These guys in CBD are fucking serious.

Black Diamond. I wanted to hit the strip club across the hall. But guess that's gone now. It's MUSE an empty club.

Same freelancers from the night before. A few cute girls, a few 50 yo foreigners dancing around drunk pretending they're 22 and yelling in the girls faces, all in all. Just same sad expat scene you can see from here to Hong Kong. Girls were okay, but seemed pretty stuck up with their knockoff Chanel bags and demure gazes. Wasn't worth the taxi back to CBD hotel, walk of shame, and $50 - $100 for a quick shag with a princess.

Will save it for Mombasa.

On the other hand. Went to Kibera and felt no bad vibe at all. Just a lot of people saying Hello, no hard stares, no shoulder bumps etc. CBD is the frigging worst.[/QUOTE]I don't have latest information of the Nairobi, but Gypsy bar was nicest place to try to get the girl. I did some nights in Nairobi a year ago, and wanted to go around all the clubs, so I did not pick up anything from Gypsy, which I felt sorry later. Gypsy was first place I visited, it is early night place. I thought that I take somebody from Black Diamond, the last place, after visiting all clubs. But like you wrote, Black Diamond girls are so hardcore and asking so much money, I ended up taking nobody. I liked one girl in Black Diamond, she told me 300 dollars short time, covered oral. This was so far from my planned maximum 3000 shilling offer that I did not try to even bargain. Although, one Nairobi girl told me once that if she don't like some guy it is easy to get rid of him fast by telling that she wants 500 dollar for short time.

Good luck to Mombasa, it is much better place in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Bajuni;2296178]And now we all got curious who that Lady is.[/QUOTE]I tried googling, All I remember it was one of those IG exposal sites where guys prove that women on IG are willing to have sex for money.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2296227]Sabina Joy.

You walk up a few flights of stairs and alight in the middle of. A sausage fest. Place was very packed at 5:30 pm on a Saturday.

It's a dark railroad-flat style club - 3 rooms in a row. Two bars front / back. Beers like 220 or something. Looks like you take the girls upstairs to beds.

Unsure why this place gets as much love as it does on this board, if it's always as I experienced it. Maybe 8 or 10 guys per girl. And maybe only 12 - 14 girls in the place (yes, over 100 guys) and only 3 doable girls. The rest were fuglies and fatties. The guys were just sitting around holding their bottles, and the few doable girls were in the middle of a group of guys that were plying them with multiple rounds of drinks. Not exactly the knocking-shop I was hoping for.

Also curious what race most mongers are that like Nairobi. I've only been in Africa weeks and have yet to see another white guy in these type clubs (or Eithiopia, Djibouti, Somolia etc). When I see them they're at places like Blacks or the hotel bars. Are white guys really wandering in and out of Sabina Joy and River Road and all the rest solo?

Then walked to River Road - #61, only 4 girls outside, tried to go upstairs but the gate was locked on second floor. Girls said there were girls inside but they were sleeping. Really? At 6:30 pm? The available girls were not looking like they just got made up for the prom. So I passed. Sorry, I love to shag. But I'm not coming back here at night to monger. Walked down River to Chillers. But I couldn't find it. I didn't bring my phone with me. Just piece of paper / map. I thought you turned left on Kumsai (SP) street and it's the second block. No-one knew what I was talking about.

Backtracked to Applebees. It's on the corner and has changed it's name. Went upstairs and it appears to be closed. Second floor looks like it was once a club. But grate was locked and empty. Said 'reception upstairs' and again. Locked. Meh.

Dark by 7 pm so grabbed a taxi back to hotel. Personally, I wouldn't suggest ANY white guy (or any green, purple, polka-dotted) guy to make that walk. I got more hard stares, shoulder bumps, and teenage boys messing around with me then anywhere I've been.

Overall, can't impressed with Nairobi (so far) as a mongering destination. A lot of dodgy walking to the CBD / river clubs, very few good looking girls, and the city is literally fucked. Almost any other destination has offered a better yield. Jakarta, Addis, Havana, Colombia. You name it.

Loved the artwork on the buses though and some of the rundown aesthetic.

Might try some more of the regular bars tonight. But not walking along river or around Archive, Moi etc on my own again. With bright blonde hair and skin like a snowman I'm just asking for some bad shit to happen.[/QUOTE]I'd assume most Nairobi posters are white.

The reason SJ "gets so much love" is because it's the local kenyan brothel that's always open. If you're a total noob and didn't know anything and wanted pussy immediately then SJ is for you.

Keep in mind it's a brothel targeted to LOCALS. Locals like big assed women and frankly fat girls, not all SJ girls are like that but I'd say most are. I've "graduated" from SJ but I met a cute maid there who fucked me on my next trip at my place. I had a good time in Applebeez but concur about that area at night most women told me that the place was dangerous at night.

Like a said African mongers are hardcore personally I wouldn't go anywhere near somaliland that's too hardcore for me. But I will also say the upscale size 7-8 girls are in bars like brew bistro in westlands during normal club hours, You can get numbers from girls at the bar and on the dance floor, but expect to pay more than 4 k.

Trip.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2296476]For some reason. Had zero luck with Badoo. I signed up for a 3 month membership, dutifully filled out my profile, put up my 'okay' mug and have been trying to chat the girls in each country (Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somolia, Nairobi).

A lot of hit-and-runs, likes or 'Hi' etc. But when I chat and actually try to get them to meet, like 'right now' - get a bunch of excuses. 'Next week darling' or 'I'm occupied now'. Last night at midnight actually looking for an escort to come to the hotel - (was sort of desperate) but when I'd call either no pick up, or numbers wrong. Figure most of the escort sites are bait-and-switch regardless.

Maybe it's a long time thing. You have to start chatting them days (or weeks) in advance. Dunno.[/QUOTE]I don't understand but again I do. I'm literally sipping coffee from a Tinder girl that I met last trip. But in Tanzania I had flakes and chicks who literally went on a date without sex so it seems like some people do better in certain countries.

If Mombasa doesn't meet with your expectations then it's probably not worth returning. I have friends in Tanzania but I won't be looking for sex there.

Trip.

Any reliable contacts for a good independent who can come to my hotel.

Have 2 nights and I don't feel safe going out hunting at night.

PM me.

[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;2296476]For some reason. Had zero luck with Badoo. I signed up for a 3 month membership, dutifully filled out my profile, put up my 'okay' mug and have been trying to chat the girls in each country (Ethiopia, Djibouti, Somolia, Nairobi).

A lot of hit-and-runs, likes or 'Hi' etc. But when I chat and actually try to get them to meet, like 'right now' - get a bunch of excuses. 'Next week darling' or 'I'm occupied now'. Last night at midnight actually looking for an escort to come to the hotel - (was sort of desperate) but when I'd call either no pick up, or numbers wrong. Figure most of the escort sites are bait-and-switch regardless.

Maybe it's a long time thing. You have to start chatting them days (or weeks) in advance. Dunno.[/QUOTE]

Actually Badoo works pretty well. Start working your fields like 2 weeks in advance, and you will find green pastures when it's harvesting time.

No need to sign up for paid memberships, there is ample supply of girls. Never paid a single $ for anything and always got my menu sorted.

So I've been staying at the same hotel for a few years now when I come to Nairobi - 2-4 times a year. They got a new housekeeper, in her 30's, big frame but confident and looks you in the eye. We got chatting outside my room and it was clear to me that below the professional front, she was looking to hook up.

I got her number, we met that night at Ambassadeur hotel in town. Great bar, room was fine. And we fucked for about an hour solid. This is not the first 30 something I've picked up in Nairobi, often horny, they're busy working hard looking after children, their man has run off on them. And they're a lot more fun, much better in bed, and really enjoy it.

[QUOTE=AddisAlem;2303654]So I've been staying at the same hotel for a few years now when I come to Nairobi - 2-4 times a year. They got a new housekeeper, in her 30's, big frame but confident and looks you in the eye. We got chatting outside my room and it was clear to me that below the professional front, she was looking to hook up.

I got her number, we met that night at Ambassadeur hotel in town. Great bar, room was fine. And we fucked for about an hour solid. This is not the first 30 something I've picked up in Nairobi, often horny, they're busy working hard looking after children, their man has run off on them. And they're a lot more fun, much better in bed, and really enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Very good, I'm trying to find a 30 somethings in Nairobi myself, the early 20's from the bar scene I'm tired of, I do like a big frame to.

Hi guys,

I'm a pretty shy guy, and of the most annoying things about Kenyan hotels is the walk of shame through hotel lobbies.

Can anyone recommend a hotel (not airbnb) that fits the following criteria.

1) Has rooms that are accessed in a private manner (eg your not forced to walk through lobby or register).

2) Under $70 per night and is decent quality.

3) Has parking.

So far I've liked woodmere apartments, but it can be fully booked at times so I'm trying to find alternatives.

Ant tips?

Thanks.

I don't recommend any Nairobi hotels anymore, haven't stayed in one in years -- instead, I recommend AirBnB:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2223797#post2223797[/URL]

HOWEVER, for someone like you, I DO recommend a hotel--with active security: just in case the girl tries to bully you for more money, you can quickly get security to remove her. You won't have this protection in a private residence.

Try this simple Google search, adjust the dates, price & quality to your comfort:

[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=Hotels+in+Nairobi+Kenya[/URL]

Others here can help you determine if the place (s) Girl-Friendly.

Reporting back from a Nairobi visit in January. Weather and chicas were perfect. Stayed at the Woodmere apartments and highly recommend it. Secure area and nice amenities for a decent price. I believe I paid around 4 K KSE nightly for a two bedroom suite overlooking the pool. The bed worked well and staff did not bat an eye at bringing girls back.

My trip was mostly work but had time for one mongering night, Thursday night. Went to Black Diamond in Westlands. A fun local band was playing, and lots of ladies looking to meet westerners. Two pulled me aside to chat, but no spark for me. Drinking a Tusker at the bar, came to chatting with a gorgeous GND type named Carol. She was showing me photos on her phone and we had some laughs. Asked if she wanted to have another drink at my place, did not take much convincing.

Uber back to woodmere. Had already bought Tuskers at the apartment shop, cold in the fridge. Had a couple while watching some movie, but soon were making out. And onto the bed naked. Soft soft kissable lips, DFK. And then down to dine on the other lips. Clean and lovely, and was felt like a real orgasm. She loved sex. Slim but curvy, nice be cups. Probably about 5 ft2.

Carol went down for a fantastic BBBJ, with plenty of attention to the boys and some eye contact. I came in her mouth and she took every drop without complaint. After some chatting we went for round two, covered in several positions. Completely satisfied. The whole night was very close to a GFE experience.

She stayed the night, butt naked with cute perky ass in the air. Never discussed money but I have her 5 k for "cab money" on her way out. Very sweet girl, and I am guessing comes to Black Diamond often, as a non-pro or semi-pro.

Good hunting. Tinder also gave me a lot of hits and interest, but just never had time to meet up. Also 1-2 ads for $$ on tinder, but almost all seemed good girls.

[QUOTE=FreeShyne;2305654]Hi guys,

I'm a pretty shy guy, and of the most annoying things about Kenyan hotels is the walk of shame through hotel lobbies.

Can anyone recommend a hotel (not airbnb) that fits the following criteria.

1) Has rooms that are accessed in a private manner (eg your not forced to walk through lobby or register).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Unlikely to find, and not recommended if you find. Girl registering is for your own security, they are not your friends. If too shy to walk with the lady just give her your room # and tell her to come over once you are in the room. Kenyan ladies tend to be quite reliable and will follow through.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2307274]Unlikely to find, and not recommended if you find. Girl registering is for your own security, they are not your friends. If too shy to walk with the lady just give her your room # and tell her to come over once you are in the room. Kenyan ladies tend to be quite reliable and will follow through.[/QUOTE]Woodmere Serviced Apt. No walk of shame, safe and very quiet. Only moaning and groaning from next door shagging. Studios about $53, clean with a microwave and cooking burner.

Walking distance to YAYA for ATM and groceries, booze. My go to place.

Hi,

I will be in Nairobi for only one night, and the proposed location is in Karen area, named Roussel House.

Obviously it doesn't look like a GFE place at first sight.

But at least can someone tell me if in this area its possible to find good MP's or if I need to walk or drive long and to where?

Thanks a lot for any advices.

There is a sister app of Badoo called Blendr.

Great way to find girl everywhere around the world

[QUOTE=Vanilla4;2301908]Actually Badoo works pretty well. Start working your fields like 2 weeks in advance, and you will find green pastures when it's harvesting time.

No need to sign up for paid memberships, there is ample supply of girls. Never paid a single $ for anything and always got my menu sorted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zamziv;2316402]There is a sister app of Badoo called Blendr.

Great way to find girl everywhere around the world[/QUOTE]Thanks for information. I've always found Badoo good in NBO / Kenya, but let me try Blendr too. And see what difference it makes.

Just returned from one month in Nairobi. Here is a report of my findings and strategies:

1- My initial strategy was to use Tinder one month advance of my trip to start decent conversations with girls to eliminate the hookers and find someone serious to hang out with who I can talk to.

I thought I found that person through extensive whatsapp chat before arriving and that we had something after spending a week together in Nairobi. However I noticed the Tinder app still prominent on her phone so I did the following:

Created a fake Tinder account to match her to find out who she really is.

2- Strategy Two: Using naughty talk to get to girls.

I matched with the fake profile with my ex and started dirty talk with her: If I could come in her mouth? Yes. If she swallows? Yes she does. If she likes anal and rough? Yes again.

It was time to get unmatched so I thought. I said I hate condoms and wanted to come inside her. Then I added I want to do some ass to mouth. Surely she would unmatch me.

No response for a day so I was happy about my girl. I had to do the final test if she could refuse money. So I offered $50 for the unprotected sex etc. And to my disbelief she accepted.

Apparently most Kenyan girls struggle saying no to money I was very dissapointed in the girl I was seeing and decided to continue my experiment but without offering money.

Within a weeek I had 10 girls who without meeting me (on Tinder chat) accepted to go home with me for drinks and swallow. I could not believe but literally met with all the girls and took them home teling them the story of the girl I thought was serious with me. Half the girls did not even realise that they agreed for me to cum in their mouth with a fake profile. Imagine how many guys they must be talking to. This was so shocking as I did not expect that this dirty talk will get me anywhere but I even pulled lesbians who had never given a blowjob to a guy. So many young and horny girls in Nairobi and I just discovered this. Reading the forum most guys are not aware of the potential or nobody is given the right advice in how to pull. There are a lot of loosers who immediately offer money to girls but I think the girls like to be teased and not treated like working girls.

So my strategy of finding a serious girl was naive. The girls tell you what you want to hear and even if your are the BF you are the BF when you are there. When not then another person gets to be with her. So instead of wasting all the time chatting a long time before I realised that girls react much more enthusiastic if you can even meet them the same day of the naughty chat if you know how to get them horny. This involves not being selfish.

I will be back with strategy two and I still find it hard to use my own pics, but will do so as its not my character to talk to girls like that and ask them if I can cum in their mouth if she likes me. I'm trying to be a gentleman and polite to all the ladies I meet and majority call back to meet again and stay over for weekends. Honestly I could not keep up with the demand and had to block some of them to stop their persistent requests to meet again.

Black Diaomond clearly has the higher number of working girls and some of them are very hardcore and I would say dangerous as they look for drunk foreigners or slip something into their drink to rob them at their apartment or hotel room. Oh let me mention that the corrupt police love these robberies as they get their cut from the girls.

Even on Tinder if a girl immediately asks you where you are staying do not tell her all the details. Never took a girl home from Black diamond as I don't like pros and yes there reports of positive GF experience with some of them but this requires careful selection. There are always some girls who just come there because they need some money for something.

Most of the Black Diamond girls also swing over to Brew when it gets late, bribing the female bouncer to be tolerated at Brew. The bouncer team at Brew operates like a mafia. The difference between Black Diamond and Brew is that girls at Brew don't make it obvious that they are working girls. A lot of guys leave with a girl thinking they have pulled only to be told of the 'convenience fee' while waiting for the taxi. The question could be: Will you pay for sex?

If the guy was good looking the girl who was kissing 5 minutes ago will most likely be back as the answer was: No!

I was watching the girls going out with guys and guessing if they will be back as good looking guys nearly always refused to pay and the girls going out with much older guys and really fat ones were not coming back which meant that the guy accepted to pay.

Very similar story at Gipsy where I saw a good looking spinner who I first saw at Black Diamond. She noticed I was interested in her and although I was with another girl she came and bought her a shot as business development (BD) to meet me. She did not pay for that shot as she gets rich guys to but her a lot of drinks so the bar knows to take care of her when she is doing BD.

One guy at the bar already had a girl but was going around collecting numbers from all other hot girls. He was really disrespectful to his girl for the night and I wonder how the sex was when she went home with him.

A loy of these working girls will try crazy prices with foreigners like $usd100. When anyone tells you a USD price then you have to remind them the Kenyan currency. As you can see from my previous post I did not need to pay for sex with all the horny girls in Nairobi who want to have fun and party and experience a foreigner. Ok I took them all out for a nice lunch / dinner and paid for their cab to and from the meeting place. If we met again I also gave them a present to show my appreciation for the amazing sex. I was amazed by how positive the feedback was.

Anyway within one month I knew all the working girls and most of them are also on Tinder so it felt funny when the girls asking for money immediately on Tinder are suddenly dancing in front of you but my instinct was to avoid these pros.

If on a date to Brew the female bouncer knew the girl I was with I immediately knew that she was or used to be a working girl as the female bouncer gets the cut as I mentioned before. I also noticed that my date was very affectionate with me in a professional way and I just accepted a CIM from her which she delivered promptly and professionally. Let me mention that I knew this girl from 2 years ago when she was not a pro and it was a thank you for some help I gave her related to an internship.

[QUOTE=TonyCarioca11;2328338]I will be back with strategy two and I still find it hard to use my own pics, but will do so as its not my character to talk to girls like that and ask them if I can cum in their mouth if she likes me. I'm trying to be a gentleman and polite to all the ladies I meet and majority call back to meet again and stay over for weekends. Honestly I could not keep up with the demand and had to block some of them to stop their persistent requests to meet again.[/QUOTE]Thank you TonyCarioca11 for a truly entertaining and informative review of your month in Nairobi. You had me nodding my head in agreement while chuckling at your approach to matters.

I recently spend some time in Kenya and Uganda and many pieces of the puzzle fell into place with a laugh while reading through your report. I truly admire those who can think outside the box and problem solve on their feet rather than complain or go home unhappy.

Being a westerner myself, I often found it difficult to accept or understand how truly simple things were in hindsight. Probably the biggest challenge is protecting our own emotions and tendency to develop feelings towards our new friends and dates. Hehe.

As I once read, and it always bears repeating. "she's not your girlfriend, it's just your turn".

Cheers and thanks for taking the time to share your experience.

Happy travels.

Before you go to Nairobi seeking (free sex).

Most pretty females worldwide feel entitled to unchecked access to resources, it can be either tactical (mostly pro) or strategic (high maintenance relationship. Expensive Trophy), a pretty lady will value status (in general, with money being the most obvious by product of status), so it will be extremely hard and time wasting to try pulling Pretty ladies without status. In Africa opportunities for a pretty lady are even less and the only thing she can do is cash out her youth (wise decision).

A big advantage of barebacking an expensive very pretty women is that she value her looks and will do everything to avoid getting knocked up (loss of income and connection with her network of resourceful male lovers), so if you are lucky enough to get time with a pretty Semi-Pro (Usually most are Semi-Pro), then go for it. Usually $100 in NBO or $1000 in Malibu or London.

On the other hand.

The average good looking Kenyan young girl wants to settle on the first good deal, settling in Kenya is pregnancy (perfectly fine, if that is the male plan also). Average girls will go for looks or just a good passport. Lots of foreigners end up complaining!

Nothing of value is free you either pay now or later, Kenyan average girls are extremely open to relationships, that should be a warning. The best way to buy out is to emphasize the monetary transactional nature of the relationship. No monger wants to be hassled by an angry pregnant GF.

Just had to add this, so mongers looking for the path of least resistance. Know what they are walking into.

If you want to have sex with money as a lesser factor, go date Danish teacher, maybe Qatari girls with a boring $100 K token job, in Kenya being a foreigner is already a diagnostic marker that Kenyan girls jump on. Paying upfront is a fair deal for those who don't have interest in relationships (that exceed sex time).

[QUOTE=TonyCarioca11;2328338]Just returned from one month in Nairobi. Here is a report of my findings and strategies[/QUOTE]I let one of my classy Kenyan local girls analyze it (yeah 1 of 100 girls can be a diamond and make 100% true realtalk beside all the notorious lies and bullshit of the others) . Here are the results:

About first part being naive she says:

"For starts the strategy wasn't naive. All you said about tinder is true. No girl would tell you that you are the only guy they talk to that's definitely a lie. They just look at who is potential enough. Who looks richer. Who looks most naive to Kenyan culture. That's where their claws will be shapenned to. The other guys will just be unmatched in norder to stop "nagging" besides, they have nothing to offer. Kenyan ladies are overrated. They want quick money whichever way it comes. "

About free sex she says:

Me: are they doing it (free sex) because they think he will maybe start a relationship with them later or give them money or gifts? She: "Yes exactly. They are willing to give free offers at first. Hoping for happy returns".

About naughty talk she says:

"A lot of people are on tinder especially to look for either relationships or money via sex. The naughty talk for them makes them want to prepare you for what they term as good expectations. They'll keep up to whatever you tell them. Besides they have to please you. Asking serious questions / talk looks like the longer route. So girls who want quick results prefer the naughty thing."

So. Let me summarize it again. As it was a discussion many times here because others also got "free sex" in the thread dozens of pages before. What I would consider as the truth with a 99% probability:

- Looking for serious things in Kenya? May work in 1 of 100 cases, but as you read what the girl says. Alert stage double red. Means: too risky!

- Do they do naughty talk for self purpose? No. It's an indicator for some girls that sth. Will happen quick as this girls can be very impatient.

- Is Kenya really a dreamland with naughty girls like in a 18+ movie all want to have sex for free? No. While girls can be naughty indeed, for real they do it sometimes in hope for gifts, money, meals etc during the next meeting.

Very good analysis and agree with everything. I also think girls eveluate the potential for the following:

While girls can be naughty indeed, for real they do it sometimes in hope for gifts, money, meals etc during the next meeting.

I'm not naive to believe that they do not have some kind of expectations to be treated well. However there are pros and normal girls who really enjoy having fun while hoping for more.

Also good points about the naughty talk. I also agree that they play along to meet sooner. Having said this the promises made during the naughty talk were always kept which was puzzling for me.

I took one of my Kenyan dates to Havana Bar and a white girl asked us if it was our first date. I said: Yes and she is well out of my league The white girl agreed with me. Anyway the hot Kenyan girl came home with me and I could not believe how well I was doing. In Europe I match with zero girls on Tinder and did not get a date in years So the attention I'm getting there is unbelievable to me.

One amazing things about Kenyan girls is how persistent they can be with their story that your are the only one and that they are only having sex with you A lot of guys would give up and move on when caught out but these girls stick to their story.

[QUOTE=MarcoBer;2329156]I let one of my classy Kenyan local girls analyze it (yeah 1 of 100 girls can be a diamond and make 100% true realtalk beside all the notorious lies and bullshit of the others) . Here are the results:

About first part being naive she says:

"For starts the strategy wasn't naive. All you said about tinder is true. No girl would tell you that you are the only guy they talk to that's definitely a lie. They just look at who is potential enough. Who looks richer. Who looks most naive to Kenyan culture. That's where their claws will be shapenned to. The other guys will just be unmatched in norder to stop "nagging" besides, they have nothing to offer. Kenyan ladies are overrated. They want quick money whichever way it comes. "

About free sex she says:

Me: are they doing it (free sex) because they think he will maybe start a relationship with them later or give them money or gifts? She: "Yes exactly. They are willing to give free offers at first. Hoping for happy returns".

About naughty talk she says:

"A lot of people are on tinder especially to look for either relationships or money via sex. The naughty talk for them makes them want to prepare you for what they term as good expectations. They'll keep up to whatever you tell them. Besides they have to please you. Asking serious questions / talk looks like the longer route. So girls who want quick results prefer the naughty thing."

So. Let me summarize it again. As it was a discussion many times here because others also got "free sex" in the thread dozens of pages before. What I would consider as the truth with a 99% probability:

- Looking for serious things in Kenya? May work in 1 of 100 cases, but as you read what the girl says. Alert stage double red. Means: too risky!

- Do they do naughty talk for self purpose? No. It's an indicator for some girls that sth. Will happen quick as this girls can be very impatient.

- Is Kenya really a dreamland with naughty girls like in a 18+ movie all want to have sex for free? No. While girls can be naughty indeed, for real they do it sometimes in hope for gifts, money, meals etc during the next meeting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoseNosay;2329105]Before you go to Nairobi seeking (free sex).

Most pretty females worldwide feel entitled to unchecked access to resources, it can be either tactical (mostly pro) or strategic (high maintenance relationship. Expensive Trophy), a pretty lady will value status (in general, with money being the most obvious by product of status), so it will be extremely hard and time wasting to try pulling Pretty ladies without status. In Africa opportunities for a pretty lady are even less and the only thing she can do is cash out her youth (wise decision)...
[/QUOTE]JN, A very accurate and wise analysis. I encourage all Pretty-Woman-Fantasy filled mongers to read this.

Hi Friends,

I am reaching Nairobi next week, I am not into hardcore pros but interested in semi-pro like salesgirls / office going women. I would be staying in a Airbnb accommodation. Can I have your suggestions please. This is my first visit to Africa.

[QUOTE=Sarangdharp;2333308]Hi Friends,

I am reaching Nairobi next week, I am not into hardcore pros but interested in semi-pro like salesgirls / office going women. I would be staying in a Airbnb accommodation. Can I have your suggestions please. This is my first visit to Africa.[/QUOTE]Use badoo, plenty will respond to your message.

Anyone you see in the street or in a shop etc try a Hello, most will respond and ask them for drink etc.

Then it all depends on yourself and what they think of you. Some will be up for it and some won't. Nairobi is not as easy for semi pros as people think but its not that difficult I would put people off.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2333467]Use badoo, plenty will respond to your message.

Anyone you see in the street or in a shop etc try a Hello, most will respond and ask them for drink etc.

Then it all depends on yourself and what they think of you. Some will be up for it and some won't. Nairobi is not as easy for semi pros as people think but its not that difficult I would put people off.[/QUOTE]Hi Bro,

Thanks a lot for your input! Yes, I am on Badoo and would try this route too. Thanks once again!

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has posted advice on this thread, especially Naked Gunz and Neddy.

Been to Thailand too many times, don't find Thai girls attractive anymore and tried Medellin, which I liked but the language barrier puts me off returning.

As I love black girls, thought I'd try Nairobi. Going to go in September or October.

Weird question but does anyone know of any gyms in Westlands area with machines, free weights etc where you can pay each day or short term membership?

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2335229]Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has posted advice on this thread, especially Naked Gunz and Neddy.

Been to Thailand too many times, don't find Thai girls attractive anymore and tried Medellin, which I liked but the language barrier puts me off returning.

As I love black girls, thought I'd try Nairobi. Going to go in September or October.

Weird question but does anyone know of any gyms in Westlands area with machines, free weights etc where you can pay each day or short term membership?[/QUOTE]There's a very good gym in the village market mall.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2335452]There's a very good gym in the village market mall.[/QUOTE]That's brilliant, thanks.

Enjoyed reading all of your reports too, cheers.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2335229]Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who has posted advice on this thread, especially Naked Gunz and Neddy.

Been to Thailand too many times, don't find Thai girls attractive anymore and tried Medellin, which I liked but the language barrier puts me off returning.

As I love black girls, thought I'd try Nairobi. Going to go in September or October.

Weird question but does anyone know of any gyms in Westlands area with machines, free weights etc where you can pay each day or short term membership?[/QUOTE]Hi,

Plenty of Fitness Centres in Westlands. Most of the Hotels feature a Gym that you can join on a temp basis. Alternatively there's one in Sarit Centre.

[QUOTE=EastAfricaMan;2336383]Hi,

Plenty of Fitness Centres in Westlands. Most of the Hotels feature a Gym that you can join on a temp basis. Alternatively there's one in Sarit Centre.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help.

Again and again I am so surprised how Tinder is working for us the mongers.

I visit Nairobi every second month and I am well preparing my visits.

A week or so before my planned visit I start to search.

I search for 18-29 YO while I send them a msg telling that I am looking for a friend with benefits / lover.

Every second hit provide me with her whatsapp number so we start to chat.

Till I arrive I have a short list of chicks one for each day.

[QUOTE=Zamziv;2338553]Every second hit provide me with her whatsapp number so we start to chat.
Till I arrive I have a short list of chicks one for each day.[/QUOTE]How much do you pay them?

[QUOTE=MarcoBer;2338972]How much do you pay them?[/QUOTE]Sometimes it goes for Huber cost sometimes up to 5000 KSH.

[QUOTE=Zamziv;2338553]Again and again I am so surprised how Tinder is working for us the mongers.

I visit Nairobi every second month and I am well preparing my visits.

A week or so before my planned visit I start to search.

I search for 18-29 YO while I send them a msg telling that I am looking for a friend with benefits / lover.

Every second hit provide me with her whatsapp number so we start to chat.

Till I arrive I have a short list of chicks one for each day.[/QUOTE]Never tried Tinder but the same goes for BADOO. Plenty of pretty girls ready to hook up without a problem.

[QUOTE=EastAfricaMan;2340024]Never tried Tinder but the same goes for BADOO. Plenty of pretty girls ready to hook up without a problem.[/QUOTE]On that note. The pool of available girls ain't that big and assuming most are ready for sex then all the more reason to use protection!

More recently I had a girl contact me desperate for an iPhone (like I was ever going to get her one) but daaaaamn, what she was ready to do. Well, lets say her service menu was extensive!

Happy mongering all!

Guys,

First of all would like to thank the posters on this group for the tips. I have been coming to Nairobi for many years but never thought of mongering. Last week I got a 24 HR trip to Nairobi so decided to try badoo.

As proposed:

1- downloaded badoo 5 days before arrival.

2- added quite a very normal picture- I'm not cute.

3- started adding girls and chatting and getting ehatsapp contacts.

Honestly I cudnt believe how many girls asded me. I got at least 15 girls to add me! To summarize I met with tei girls:

1- I met with a 21 yo slim super hot law student. I was staying at a fancy hitel. She came over when I landed. Met her between 4 pm and 7 pm (cz I had the appointment with the second girl). She was extremely shy and a very normal cute student. We talked alot. She was impressed by the hitel and probably by different skin color (imm nkt white but brown). By the end of the mtg I decided to make a move and we started kissing + caressing her body etc. Unfortuantely I had the other meeting so had to ask her to leave without finishing up. On the way out she told.

Me I have 50 bob only so I gave her 2 k.

2- met the second girl. 25 yo accountant. Took her up to the room. Had AMAZING GFE sex untill the next morning multiple.

Rounds etc. I had told her ill get her a mobile but didn't. So gave her 6 k as a token of appreciation.

Consulsion:

I felt like a kong with girls here. They were totally in love with me. And dieing to stay more. Super duper GFE experience and attitude. Ok I was staying in an amazing hotel and was kond with money I think. But I still think they wud have dome the same even if I hadn't tipped. So seems local girls are extreely intrested in forgeirners. Both girls didn't seem like they do this alot. The forst girl for sure no. Like definelty. She even told me last time she kissed was a year ago. And yes its true for sure. Cz when I tried to squeeze a quick meeting with her on my way to the airport she told me I can do everything but sex. So she is a bit reserved but lets loose with me.

Thanks all.

[QUOTE=Elbrens;2340505]Guys,

First of all would like to thank the posters on this group for the tips. I have been coming to Nairobi for many years but never thought of mongering. Last week I got a 24 HR trip to Nairobi so decided to try badoo.

As proposed:

1- downloaded badoo 5 days before arrival.

2- added quite a very normal picture- I'm not cute.

3- started adding girls and chatting and getting ehatsapp contacts.

Honestly I cudnt believe how many girls asded me. I got at least 15 girls to add me! To summarize I met with tei girls:

1- I met with a 21 yo slim super hot law student...[/QUOTE]Which amazing hotel were you in, you can surely reveal that. Did the first one come to your room. Or were you caressing her body in a bar or foyer. If she came to your room and you'd never met her before, she was there for the money and the sex you just didn't realize that. Then on your departure from Kenya she said she'd do anything but sex, but lets loose with you, well she probably was loose and again you didn't catch on. Understandable.

Second one was an accountant, yeah that sounds about right, she's accounting your wallet, which in fact, as your dick gets bigger, so do her accountant fees, which you'll find out next time you meet her. Next time she'll be looking for 10 k. That's the way it works in Kenya. If they're willing to come to your room after ten minutes of cheap talk they'll fuck, if they don't want to come to your room they won't fuck.

So I've been living and working in East Africa since early 2017 - Nairobi is my base.

As someone who lived extensively overseas in various girly paradises including Thailand, Dubai and others I consider myself a fairly seasoned monger- lets say not new to the game.

During my time I've cultivated quite a number of regular girls in almost all the East African countries I visit and typically make calls ahead of my arrival in town to ensure not a single night goes wasted. On other occasions I might make the effort to find a new girl. Its really not a problem!

Of course among my girly group are some (like 20 odd) I've met on Badoo. Most all swear blind they're not involved with other guys but I know this not to be true. Mainly because on more than one occasion I've created a fake profile, started chatting to girls I know, make an explicit offer which almost all agree for a price etc.

Moral of the experiment. Make contact, meet up, have fun, treat the girls well and most reply with an excellent GFE, but don't take it seriously.

Happy mongering all!

[QUOTE=EastAfricaMan;2340826]So I've been living and working in East Africa since early 2017 - Nairobi is my base.

As someone who lived extensively overseas in various girly paradises including Thailand, Dubai and others I consider myself a fairly seasoned monger- lets say not new to the game.

During my time I've cultivated quite a number of regular girls in almost all the East African countries I visit and typically make calls ahead of my arrival in town to ensure not a single night goes wasted. On other occasions I might make the effort to find a new girl. Its really not a problem!

Of course among my girly group are some (like 20 odd) I've met on Badoo. Most all swear blind they're not involved with other guys but I know this not to be true. Mainly because on more than one occasion I've created a fake profile, started chatting to girls I know, make an explicit offer which almost all agree for a price etc.

Moral of the experiment. Make contact, meet up, have fun, treat the girls well and most reply with an excellent GFE, but don't take it seriously.

Happy mongering all![/QUOTE]Nail on head. This is the correct MO for Kenya.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2340897]Nail on head. This is the correct MO for Kenya.[/QUOTE]Being one who avoids picking up girls in Clubs I find another pretty lady gold mine is cafes, particularly Art Café and Java House.

MO: Observe and the seat yourself in an area of the restaurant being served by a pretty young thing.

Strike up a conversation when being served. Typically "What do you recommend or what's your favourite on the menu" and smile a lot. If she interacts above and beyond the call of duty then ask for her number when you get the bill. It almost always works! Have met some really lovely girls this way!!

Happy mongering all!

[QUOTE=EastAfricaMan;2340826]So I've been living and working in East Africa since early 2017 - Nairobi is my base.

As someone who lived extensively overseas in various girly paradises including Thailand, Dubai and others I consider myself a fairly seasoned monger- lets say not new to the game.

During my time I've cultivated quite a number of regular girls in almost all the East African countries I visit and typically make calls ahead of my arrival in town to ensure not a single night goes wasted. On other occasions I might make the effort to find a new girl. Its really not a problem!

Of course among my girly group are some (like 20 odd) I've met on Badoo. Most all swear blind they're not involved with other guys but I know this not to be true. Mainly because on more than one occasion I've created a fake profile, started chatting to girls I know, make an explicit offer which almost all agree for a price etc.[/QUOTE]Your advice is spot on anywhere in the world. My pussy playground is Colombia, South America and I never take anything I see or hear out of any woman's mouth serious, period end of story.

If their mouth is moving they are lying.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2342395]Your advice is spot on anywhere in the world. My pussy playground is Colombia, South America and I never take anything I see or hear out of any woman's mouth serious, period end of story.

If their mouth is moving they are lying.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Savage. But true!

Would like to know about their brothels. Sabina joy, Rico pub, Tahiti, Kericho? Quality, quantity, price, and safe area?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2343781]Would like to know about their brothels. Sabina joy, Rico pub, Tahiti, Kericho? Quality, quantity, price, and safe area?[/QUOTE]Can anyone give me some feed back.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2345477]Can anyone give me some feed back.[/QUOTE]Your probably not going to get much feedback on brothels because most mongers don't use them- at least I didn't. Sabina Joy is for locals, and the rest I don't even know where they are located. There is much pussy online, in the bars and clubs, and on the street if you have good game. Sadly, downtown used to be king, but the great monger spots are gone.

Looking for a GF hotel in Westlands. I would prefer that you post, but a MP is fine. Price is not a big problem (I am there for work), but it must have good wifi.

I am also interested in knowing about any daytime action. I am not a Nairobi newbie, but I have not been there for 10 years, so a little advice should go a long way. The last time I was in Nairobi, all the security people had their hand out, regardless of hotel policy! I would bet that hasn't changed a lot.

I have already connected with a few girls from Tagged, but I am only in Nairobi 5 nights.

Many thanks. F.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2346862]Your probably not going to get much feedback on brothels because most mongers don't use them- at least I didn't. Sabina Joy is for locals, and the rest I don't even know where they are located. There is much pussy online, in the bars and clubs, and on the street if you have good game. Sadly, downtown used to be king, but the great monger spots are gone.[/QUOTE]I do get lots of response from tagged online and I now have tinder plus. Nairobi girls seem a bit impatient and arrogant. Is that because I am not in Nairobi or that's just them? I feel like I may have isdues with a few. Can anyone addsome feedback.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2347716]I do get lots of response from tagged online and I now have tinder plus. Nairobi girls seem a bit impatient and arrogant. Is that because I am not in Nairobi or that's just them? I feel like I may have isdues with a few. Can anyone addsome feedback.[/QUOTE]It's hard to tell what they'll be like in the flesh, some are pretty arrogant some aren't. If they're impatient then its a sign they're either horny for the dick or for the money usually the money. Meet up with them away from where you're staying so you can keep them at arms length and then if she suits your taste make your move, if not then say thanks but no thanks. You know by now to negotiate before the act and ensure there's going to be no trouble once you've fucked them. Good luck you'll be fine though.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2347716]I do get lots of response from tagged online and I now have tinder plus. Nairobi girls seem a bit impatient and arrogant. Is that because I am not in Nairobi or that's just them? I feel like I may have isdues with a few. Can anyone addsome feedback.[/QUOTE]Kenyan girls are the biggest bullshitters on earth. If they think they can get away with it. Better be clear to them. Tell them you want to fuck them and you what Iphone you going to bring them. As NMExpert pointed out. Many are trolling only.

My experience on the whole is wait till you are in Kenya.

Jambo.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2343781]Would like to know about their brothels. Sabina joy, Rico pub, Tahiti, Kericho? Quality, quantity, price, and safe area?[/QUOTE]What, frequent a locals brothel in East Africa. Not unless you have 100% death wish!

Speaking personally I am as unlikely to visit a locals brothel in Nairobi as I am to insert my unprotected dick in one of the street hoes walking Koinage Street of an evening!!

Truthfully there's no need. For daytime action I recommend you hit one of the many city "Spas" including the aptly named Illusions located opposite K1 Club for a great rub down and proper naughty extras. Ask for the ample bosomed Natasha, she's fucking awesome!

Enjoy and happy mongering!

I'm a happy man!

My summer UK Daddy duties duly completed I'll be back in my beloved East Africa and Nairobi come Sunday 21st. So if anybody's around and fancies a maraud around some of the more seedier city hot spots, consider me a willing accomplice and hit me up! Like a DM or whatever they call them!

Enjoy and happy mongering you naughty men!!

Looking for a GF hotel in Westlands. I would prefer that you post, but a MP is fine. Price is not a big problem (I am there for work), but it must have good WiFi.

I am also interested in knowing about any daytime action. I am not a Nairobi newbie, but I have not been there for 10 years, so a little advice should go a long way. The last time I was in Nairobi, all the security people had their hand out, regardless of hotel policy! I would bet that hasn't changed a lot.

I have already connected with a few girls from Tagged, but I am only in Nairobi 5 nights.

Many thanks.

Hotel Emarald is a nice hotel in Westlands.

[QUOTE=EastAfricaMan;2347975]I'm a happy man!

My summer UK Daddy duties duly completed I'll be back in my beloved East Africa and Nairobi come Sunday 21st. So if anybody's around and fancies a maraud around some of the more seedier city hot spots, consider me a willing accomplice and hit me up! Like a DM or whatever they call them!

Enjoy and happy mongering you naughty men!![/QUOTE]I would like to entertain the seedier side myself. Please give a report of your adventure, could be very helpful in determining length of stay as I will be visiting Uganda and south Africa as well.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2348079]Looking for a GF hotel in Westlands. I would prefer that you post, but a MP is fine. Price is not a big problem (I am there for work), but it must have good WiFi.

I am also interested in knowing about any daytime action. I am not a Nairobi newbie, but I have not been there for 10 years, so a little advice should go a long way. The last time I was in Nairobi, all the security people had their hand out, regardless of hotel policy! I would bet that hasn't changed a lot.

I have already connected with a few girls from Tagged, but I am only in Nairobi 5 nights.

Many thanks.

Hotel Emarald is a nice hotel in Westlands.[/QUOTE]Greetings,

Fellow mongeres might beg to differ but as far as I know providing you booked your room on a double occupancy basis there ought to be no issue.

Of course you should expect the receptionist to want to take a copy of your girls I. The. They may even try and squeeze your palm for extra cash but stay firm (pardon the pun) and resist as I have done in the past.

Enjoy and happy mongering!

The Hotel Emarald is not available. Thanks Pcdilwj.

Does anyone know if either of these hotels are guest friendly?

[QUOTE=EastAfricaMan;2348111]Greetings,

Fellow mongeres might beg to differ but as far as I know providing you booked your room on a double occupancy basis there ought to be no issue.

Of course you should expect the receptionist to want to take a copy of your girls I. The. They may even try and squeeze your palm for extra cash but stay firm (pardon the pun) and resist as I have done in the past.

Enjoy and happy mongering![/QUOTE]I called a few hotels and they have no problem with me bringing back girls.

I am curious as to what you guys pay the "non pros" (all the girls I have contacted want to know how much I amgiving them). I generally give $100 a day in the Phillipines, Santo Domingo, Sao Paulo so I see no reason not to offer $100.

A day. I hate to nickel and dime the ladies because that assures poor service and drama. Then again, too much results in requests for bigger items like iPhones. Any thoughts?

When I was in westlands all of the girls I met were online and I told them I was looking for a GF. We would meet have some dinner and go out for drinks I would give them some chocolate and some female stuff as gifts. Would give them 20 to 25 dollars for transportation in the morning and tell them I hope to see them again. I never took a pro out of black diamond or Havana I think they would laugh at me if told them 20 to 25 dollars I had good success with the online girls no drama in the morning. I'm sure most guys give more than that if I was a richer man maybe I would give them 50 dollars most of the Kenyan women I met our sweethearts can't wait to go back.

[QUOTE=Forest;2348499]I called a few hotels and they have no problem with me bringing back girls.

I am curious as to what you guys pay the "non pros" (all the girls I have contacted want to know how much I amgiving them). I generally give $100 a day in the Phillipines, Santo Domingo, Sao Paulo so I see no reason not to offer $100.

A day. I hate to nickel and dime the ladies because that assures poor service and drama. Then again, too much results in requests for bigger items like iPhones. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]$100 is quite reasonable for a good overnight service from a quality chick. I've never had the experience with a lady who asks for amount upfront though.

Just getting in town anybody down to meet up for drinks between now and August 25 hit me up.

So this last Sunday a new acquaintance. A slim, pretty, quite shy and softly spoken Luo girl I met last week serving in one of Nairobi's many Naivas' came over to bask on my balcony.

Two red labels and a few tokes of weed and Shy Luo Girl transformed in front of my eyes into a total tigress. Claws and all!

The next few hours was some of the very best sex I've ever had including one the best blow jobs, and believe me I've a had a few. What technique, what suction. Is there anything better than being blown by a girl on the balcony while she stares at you in the eye challenging you to cum there and then. She won!

Time to leave no payment required just a promise she can come back anytime. Fuck yes babe.

I love Kenya!

Be gentlemen. To give no taxi money in the morning is totally unacceptable. All these girls expect something even if they not asking specifically for it. They are all on low salaries. So be decent and tip them at least 2000 ksh that would be the Nairobi going rate. Also totally outrageous is to tip 100 dollars a day. Thats just ridiculous. Maybe a perfect 10 hooking in the Hilton would be brazen to ask for that kind of money. Its just plain stupid and serves only the perception of the western white dumbass giving more than a months salary of a night watchman. If you want give up to 5000 if you must. Be decent and don't spoil the market for other mongers. This is Africa. Not Thailand or the Dominican Republic.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2352842]Be gentlemen. To give no taxi money in the morning is totally unacceptable. All these girls expect something even if they not asking specifically for it. They are all on low salaries. So be decent and tip them at least 2000 ksh that would be the Nairobi going rate. Also totally outrageous is to tip 100 dollars a day. Thats just ridiculous. Maybe a perfect 10 hooking in the Hilton would be brazen to ask for that kind of money. Its just plain stupid and serves only the perception of the western white dumbass giving more than a months salary of a night watchman. If you want give up to 5000 if you must. Be decent and don't spoil the market for other mongers. This is Africa. Not Thailand or the Dominican Republic.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Agree Neddy. One should always offer "Taxi Money" or whatever else you want to call it.

$100 per day. Not unless it was Lupita NYong'o herself!

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2352842]So be decent and tip them at least 2000 ksh that would be the Nairobi going rate. Also totally outrageous is to tip 100 dollars a day. Thats just ridiculous.
Neddy.[/QUOTE]Completely disagree with your assessment sir. Don't box Kenyan girls into a ridiculous and made-up 2 - 5 K, no more no less imaginary range. Quality and class of service vary considerably in Nairobi. Top shelf ladies are extremely unlikely to accept less than USD 100, whatever wannabes may want to claim here. No need to make people feel like assholes for paying what is perfectly reasonable.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2355047]Completely disagree with your assessment sir. Don't box Kenyan girls into a ridiculous and made-up 2 - 5 K, no more no less imaginary range. Quality and class of service vary considerably in Nairobi. Top shelf ladies are extremely unlikely to accept less than USD 100, whatever wannabes may want to claim here. No need to make people feel like assholes for paying what is perfectly reasonable.[/QUOTE]Hey. Its about perceived value. Up to you if you like to pay too much. Its a free market economy or you would you be shocked to know that a boda driver shags a girl for 50 bob. And if you read my post I never claimed to have paid 200 ksh for a shag. That was for 2 sodas I paid for while she ground her ass against mine In fact I paid 100 ksh as the other soda was consumed by me. The most I ever paid was 3000 ksh for a student I pulled out of Black Diamond for an overnighter. If you find it reasonably to pay 100 usd in a country where 75% make 15.000 ksh or less a month go ahead. The girls will love you.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2355047]Completely disagree with your assessment sir. Don't box Kenyan girls into a ridiculous and made-up 2 - 5 K, no more no less imaginary range. Quality and class of service vary considerably in Nairobi. Top shelf ladies are extremely unlikely to accept less than USD 100, whatever wannabes may want to claim here. No need to make people feel like assholes for paying what is perfectly reasonable.[/QUOTE]At kib. It seems you hardly been to Kenya. You never reported any of your adventures. Only "I-know-it-all" comments.

As Neddy says: 1000 KSH will take you far in that country. Yes, there are some idiots paying even 20.000 for a fat-ass lass. And there are some pro-girls fighting with you because they never get less then 10.000, as they say. Majority is happy with 1000 to 3000.

At Kib. Don't pity board members who pay as what is just ok. But if you feel happy to contribute 10.000 for a pop, go ahead.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2355529]At kib. It seems you hardly been to Kenya. You never reported any of your adventures. Only "I-know-it-all" comments.

As Neddy says: 1000 KSH will take you far in that country. Yes, there are some idiots paying even 20.000 for a fat-ass lass. And there are some pro-girls fighting with you because they never get less then 10.000, as they say. Majority is happy with 1000 to 3000.

At Kib. Don't pity board members who pay as what is just ok. But if you feel happy to contribute 10.000 for a pop, go ahead.[/QUOTE]Payment for any guy is entirely up to him. If you want to pay 1000 ksh for a female and can get away with that it's fine, other guys will pay 5-10 k but maybe they think that's what it was worth to them. To everyone their own. I personally don't go and stay in 5 k a night places or would I expect to pay 1 k for a fuck but that's me. I'm in no way trying to start an argument but everyone has different ideas, so you and Neddy can do what you want and pay whatever you like, and in Kib's case he's only paying what he thinks is right for the time he had with her. You must also remember there are far more guys holidaying in Kenya who aren't members on ISG that are paying 5 k-10 k for a night.

There is pussy all over Nairobi for 1-3 k, anyone paying 10 k is silly. The 3 k girls are living next door to the 10 k ones only their game and story is different.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2355606]There is pussy all over Nairobi for 1-3 k, anyone paying 10 k is silly. The 3 k girls are living next door to the 10 k ones only their game and story is different.[/QUOTE]Spot on. I can give you an idea about Mombasa prices. Add 30% for Nairobi. My current GF makes 300 ksh as a waitress a DAY. Thats for 8 hours work. When she sells pussy to me the whole night maybe 2 or 3 extended shags she gets 1000 ksh from me. Yesterday I gave her 1500 ksh. Thats a almost WHOLE WEEKS salary I. E. 40 hours. So don't be taken for a ride. Local guys pay IF they pay at all 300 ksh which is already a days salary. The muzungu is already overpaying 3 times. Fair enough. Some pro chicas know of course how much Western guys pay for pussy in their Sexprisons and adjust their prices accordingly. I maintain in most subsaharan countries 10 usd is the average shagprice. Of course tourists and business people pay way over the odds. That's why you see me hunting nonpro girls near slum areas. And I already pay THREE times as much as a local shells out for pussy.

I rest my case your lordship.

Neddy.

I did a search here, but I did not find this info. Probably some of the more experienced East Africa travellers have some boots-on-the-ground experience with this.

I plan to visit both Kenya and Uganda, for 180 days in total. Kenya first.

I read the East Africa visa (valid for 90 days) cannot be extended, so that's not an option, most likely.

Staying in Kenya and extending a 90 day single entry tourist visa is easy enough. Have done that before, in Mombasa, for 2200 kes.

When you travel from Kenya to Uganda you can buy a single entry tourist visa on arrival, like in Kenya, I think. At Entebbe airport only, or when you travel by bus via Busia too?

When returning from Uganda to Kenya (assuming within the first 90 days) is the Kenya visa still valid? I know 'single entry' suggests it isn't, but I read somewhere that it is nonetheless.

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[QUOTE=PookyMan;2356978]I did a search here, but I did not find this info. Probably some of the more experienced East Africa travellers have some boots-on-the-ground experience with this.

I plan to visit both Kenya and Uganda, for 180 days in total. Kenya first.

I read the East Africa visa (valid for 90 days) cannot be extended, so that's not an option, most likely.

Staying in Kenya and extending a 90 day single entry tourist visa is easy enough. Have done that before, in Mombasa, for 2200 kes.

When you travel from Kenya to Uganda you can buy a single entry tourist visa on arrival, like in Kenya, I think. At Entebbe airport only, or when you travel by bus via Busia too?

When returning from Uganda to Kenya (assuming within the first 90 days) is the Kenya visa still valid? I know 'single entry' suggests it isn't, but I read somewhere that it is nonetheless.[/QUOTE]Answer:

1. Yes, visa on arrival in Uganda assuming your British or similar (check the website).

2. No its not. Your Kenyan visa will be effectively "cancelled" on exit to Uganda.

Make memories and enjoy your trip!

[QUOTE=Kib123;2355047]Completely disagree with your assessment sir. Don't box Kenyan girls into a ridiculous and made-up 2 - 5 K, no more no less imaginary range. Quality and class of service vary considerably in Nairobi. Top shelf ladies are extremely unlikely to accept less than USD 100, whatever wannabes may want to claim here. No need to make people feel like assholes for paying what is perfectly reasonable.[/QUOTE]"Top shelf ladies are extremely unlikely to accept less than USD 100, whatever wannabes may want to claim here."

What a knob!

[QUOTE=PookyMan;2356978]I did a search here, but I did not find this info. Probably some of the more experienced East Africa travellers have some boots-on-the-ground experience with this.

I plan to visit both Kenya and Uganda, for 180 days in total. Kenya first.

I read the East Africa visa (valid for 90 days) cannot be extended, so that's not an option, most likely.

Staying in Kenya and extending a 90 day single entry tourist visa is easy enough. Have done that before, in Mombasa, for 2200 kes.

When you travel from Kenya to Uganda you can buy a single entry tourist visa on arrival, like in Kenya, I think. At Entebbe airport only, or when you travel by bus via Busia too?

When returning from Uganda to Kenya (assuming within the first 90 days) is the Kenya visa still valid? I know 'single entry' suggests it isn't, but I read somewhere that it is nonetheless.[/QUOTE]You are correct. VOA for Uganda on all land borders available. Within the validity of 90 days and provided you are not leaving the EAC you can return to Kenya without paying for new Visa. make sure however that they give you 90 days. My sources tell me that nowadays there is a new phenomenon creeping up. Apparently when you fly into Nairobi the Immigration officer gives you only 30 days even if you insist on 90 days. A major annoyance as you have to go to Immigration to have it extended another 60 days free of charge. Mombasa still gives 90 days on arrival without batting an eyelid. Even if you cannot renew the EATV you just go to Immigration in Kampala and they sell you a single entry visa or you exit and buy new Kenyan VOA. Many options.
Neddy

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2357161]You are correct. VOA for Uganda on all land borders available. Within the validity of 90 days and provided you are not leaving the EAC you can return to Kenya without paying for new Visa. make sure however that they give you 90 days. My sources tell me that nowadays there is a new phenomenon creeping up. Apparently when you fly into Nairobi the Immigration officer gives you only 30 days even if you insist on 90 days. A major annoyance as you have to go to Immigration to have it extended another 60 days free of charge. Mombasa still gives 90 days on arrival without batting an eyelid. Even if you cannot renew the EATV you just go to Immigration in Kampala and they sell you a single entry visa or you exit and buy new Kenyan VOA. Many options.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info Neddy69.

Now that I think about it, there's one more visa problem that I may run into: if my staying in Uganda exceeds the end date of my initial 90 days Kenyan VOA, I may not be able to get a new 90 day Kenyan VOA when returning into Kenya as this would exceed the 180 days max staying in East Africa. That problem could be avoided by extending the Kenyan VOA way before the 90 days expire. I tried that once, in Mombasa, but immigration refused to extend it before the last week of the visas validity. Other than that Mombasa immigration is efficient and without causing problems.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2357161]You are correct. VOA for Uganda on all land borders available. Within the validity of 90 days and provided you are not leaving the EAC you can return to Kenya without paying for new Visa.
Neddy[/QUOTE]Does this also apply for a short visit to Zimbabwe? I plan a reccee from Mombasa to Tanga.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2357614]Does this also apply for a short visit to Zimbabwe? I plan a reccee from Mombasa to Tanga.[/QUOTE]You mean Tanzania. Yes. You buy a TZ VOA and come back. It's only 4 hours from Mombasa. Take Modern Coast. They have 5 clubs. But most of the WGs there cater to the african taste.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2357621]You mean Tanzania. Yes. You buy a TZ VOA and come back. It's only 4 hours from Mombasa. Take Modern Coast. They have 5 clubs. But most of the WGs there cater to the african taste.[/QUOTE]Yes. Tanzania. Typo. Thanks! I got some infos about an active SW scene along the Hospital-Beach road.

There are 6 EAC countries: Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, S. Sudan, Tanzania and Uganda. I read that DRC may join in the future.

You can get individual country Visas but, but its my understanding that the EAC Visa is good for only 3 countries. The EAC Visa is a 90-day, single entry visa into the EAC but allows multiple entry between Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda. It is not renewable.

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2357721]There are 6 EAC countries: Burundi, Kenya, Rwanda, S. Sudan, Tanzania and Uganda. I read that DRC may join in the future.

You can get individual country Visas but, but its my understanding that the EAC Visa is good for only 3 countries. The EAC Visa is a 90-day, single entry visa into the EAC but allows multiple entry between Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda. It is not renewable.[/QUOTE]Correct. If you leave the EATV (KE RW UG) area I. E. Travel to TZ for example the EATV is void. If you want to reenter Kenya for example you need to buy a new visa. Its a bit complicated as TZ does NOT participate in the EATV programme.
@pookyman I wouldn't worry too much about the 180 day rule. Most countries don't give a rats ass about. UG RW you can easily get extension even over 3 months without leaving the country. Kenya has a rule 90 days plus 90 days extension after that you're supposed to leave the EAC. Just hop over the border to TZ would NOT suffice! There is 2 ways to deal with this problem. You fly to Addis Ababa and return after a couple of days and you're good for another 90+90 days. Or you give kito kidogo 30.000 ksh and you so to speak virtually leave and return to KE i.e. get stamped out and in with a new sticker. There's helpful minders full service. I know people who are here more than 10 years. In fact there is a Scotsman in his eighties in Mtwapa. He simply burned his passport. Hence nobody bothers deporting him.
Neddy

If you leave the EATV (KE RW UG) area I. E. Travel to TZ for example the EATV is void. If you want to reenter Kenya for example you need to buy a new visa.

EATV is multi entry even if you leave any of the 3 countries you can re-enter within the 90 days.

[QUOTE=LoverAfrica;2358200]If you leave the EATV (KE RW UG) area I. E. Travel to TZ for example the EATV is void. If you want to reenter Kenya for example you need to buy a new visa.

EATV is multi entry even if you leave any of the 3 countries you can re-enter within the 90 days.[/QUOTE]To come back to my question: To travel to TZ from Kenya for a few days I need to by an Visa for TZ and then on return again a visa for Kenya. Because the intial tourist visa is for a single entry only and the EATV is not valid.

Do I understand it right?

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2358217]To come back to my question: To travel to TZ from Kenya for a few days I need to by an Visa for TZ and then on return again a visa for Kenya. Because the intial tourist visa is for a single entry only and the EATV is not valid.

Do I understand it right?[/QUOTE]If you have a single entry visa for Kenya, you have to buy a visa for TZ and when you reenter Kenya the Kenyan visa ist still valid because you have not left the EA zone. Only requirement the visa is not expired.

[QUOTE=LoverAfrica;2358200]If you leave the EATV (KE RW UG) area I. E. Travel to TZ for example the EATV is void. If you want to reenter Kenya for example you need to buy a new visa.

EATV is multi entry even if you leave any of the 3 countries you can re-enter within the 90 days.[/QUOTE]What I read, a multi-entry visa to EAC is not available. However, you show that one is. It sure makes sense to get a multi-entry version if its on the menu.

[QUOTE=LoverAfrica;2358200]If you leave the EATV (KE RW UG) area I. E. Travel to TZ for example the EATV is void. If you want to reenter Kenya for example you need to buy a new visa.

EATV is multi entry even if you leave any of the 3 countries you can re-enter within the 90 days.[/QUOTE]Wrong. If you leave any of the three EATV countries the EATV is VOID. As long as you stay within KE RW UG it is multientry BETWEEN these 3 countries. It doesn't cover the whole EAC just these three countries. But. there is confusion reigning supreme. If you depart to TZ. UG MIGHT let you back in. KE MIGHT NOT. After all its business. If you stand your ground and depending on the immigration officer he will sell or not sell a new single Entry VOA.

A "single" entry Kenyan VOA can be used to exit to TZ or UG and you can return within the validity of the 90 days to KE without paying for a new VOA. I know its confusing.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2358413]Wrong. If you leave any of the three EATV countries the EATV is VOID. As long as you stay within KE RW UG it is multientry BETWEEN these 3 countries. It doesn't cover the whole EAC just these three countries. But. there is confusion reigning supreme. If you depart to TZ. UG MIGHT let you back in. KE MIGHT NOT. After all its business. If you stand your ground and depending on the immigration officer he will sell or not sell a new single Entry VOA.

A "single" entry Kenyan VOA can be used to exit to TZ or UG and you can return within the validity of the 90 days to KE without paying for a new VOA. I know its confusing.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Well I'm certainly learning something new. Thanks for the info.

Been on this thread for two years, have a folder made up etc. Just wondering, for 10 day visit, thinking Nairobi only, but should I add Mombasa, or is it not worth it? From Mombasa thread it seems like it got quite worse, and not worth it? Highly planning a trip in next 4-6 weeks (mid to end September). Honestly, with the contacts I made in last two years via tinder etc. For banging purposes I'm good with Nairobi for whole 10 days. But thinking I might get bored, so train to Mombasa might be nice add to experience. Have anyone took that new train to Mombasa? Is it scenic? Or should I save time and take a flight. If I actually decide to go there?

[QUOTE=ThinAir;2359324]Been on this thread for two years, have a folder made up etc. Just wondering, for 10 day visit, thinking Nairobi only, but should I add Mombasa, or is it not worth it? From Mombasa thread it seems like it got quite worse, and not worth it? Highly planning a trip in next 4-6 weeks (mid to end September). Honestly, with the contacts I made in last two years via tinder etc. For banging purposes I'm good with Nairobi for whole 10 days. But thinking I might get bored, so train to Mombasa might be nice add to experience. Have anyone took that new train to Mombasa? Is it scenic? Or should I save time and take a flight. If I actually decide to go there?[/QUOTE][URL]https://metickets.krc.co.ke/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ThinAir;2359324]Been on this thread for two years, have a folder made up etc. Just wondering, for 10 day visit, thinking Nairobi only, but should I add Mombasa, or is it not worth it? From Mombasa thread it seems like it got quite worse, and not worth it? Highly planning a trip in next 4-6 weeks (mid to end September). Honestly, with the contacts I made in last two years via tinder etc. For banging purposes I'm good with Nairobi for whole 10 days. But thinking I might get bored, so train to Mombasa might be nice add to experience. Have anyone took that new train to Mombasa? Is it scenic? Or should I save time and take a flight. If I actually decide to go there?[/QUOTE]I enjoy the train trip when I was there in Jan. And when I go back I will use it again just book first class for 3 k its worth it. If you are going to be in Kenya for only ten days maybe spend a weekend in Nairobi and go to Mombasa like on sun thru Tues. Then go back to Nairobi I'm glad I went to Mtwapa for 8 days on my last trip I'm also glad I spent 2 weeks in Nairobi but you may be having so much fun in Nairobi no need to go to Mombasa.

I landed Sunday morning in Nairobi. After checking in at my hotel in Westlands I rested for a few hours. Decided to check out Westgate mall in the late afternoon.

At the entrance to the right there is a Spanish Tapas Bar; nice atmosphere, there were a few good looking girls hanging out. I talked to one hot looking girl, we exchanged numbers as she was hanging out with friends she suggested to meet Monday for lunch. Later in the evening I checked out a few bars in Westlands, I was surprised how busy some were despite it was a Sunday night. Eventually I ran into a group of girls who were celebrating a birthday. One of the girls, in her early twenties, slim, hot body made eye contact with me. I joined the group, bought them a couple of drinks and started to talk to the girl. She was already pretty tipsy. It didn't take long before we started kissing; she was horny as horny could be. After a few more rounds of drinks I asked her if she wanted to come for a drink to my hotel. The group of friends was about to leave and she came with me. We continued kissing and touching each other in the taxi on the way to my hotel; made it hardly to my room. The sex was amazing, true GF experience.

We had a total of 3 rounds great sex. She left in the early morning hours; I gave her money for the taxi; she didn't ask or wanted anything else.

[QUOTE=Lolipop0609;2366436]I landed Sunday morning in Nairobi. After checking in at my hotel in Westlands I rested for a few hours. Decided to check out Westgate mall in the late afternoon.

At the entrance to the right there is a Spanish Tapas Bar; nice atmosphere, there were a few good looking girls hanging out. I talked to one hot looking girl, we exchanged numbers as she was hanging out with friends she suggested to meet Monday for lunch. Later in the evening I checked out a few bars in Westlands, I was surprised how busy some were despite it was a Sunday night. Eventually I ran into a group of girls who were celebrating a birthday. One of the girls, in her early twenties, slim, hot body made eye contact with me. I joined the group, bought them a couple of drinks and started to talk to the girl. She was already pretty tipsy. It didn't take long before we started kissing; she was horny as horny could be. After a few more rounds of drinks I asked her if she wanted to come for a drink to my hotel. The group of friends was about to leave and she came with me. We continued kissing and touching each other in the taxi on the way to my hotel; made it hardly to my room. The sex was amazing, true GF experience.

We had a total of 3 rounds great sex. She left in the early morning hours; I gave her money for the taxi; she didn't ask or wanted anything else.[/QUOTE]Karibu Kenya!

Hi all,

I am going to Nairobi for one night. The only expedience I have is Sabrina's Joy (only once) which was pretty good.

Could go there, get a room and have fun.

I read that Sabrina is closed? I am looking for an alternative place were I can go for fun, considering I am white and blond?

Safety is a concern considering I will stick out quite easily.

Hotel advice is also much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Mark120;2381080]Hi all,

I am going to Nairobi for one night. The only expedience I have is Sabrina's Joy (only once) which was pretty good.

Could go there, get a room and have fun.

I read that Sabrina is closed? I am looking for an alternative place were I can go for fun, considering I am white and blond?

Safety is a concern considering I will stick out quite easily.

Hotel advice is also much appreciated![/QUOTE]If safety is important, my advice to you would be to stick to Westlands. There are many nightclubs in that area with WG. Avoid SW. You'll get much more info if you scan trough the posts in the Nairobi thread.

Hello fellow mongers,

Looking for recommendations for spas or MP (with extras) in Nairobi. I'll be there only for one night so would really appreciate some help.

What sort of extras are on the table and what are the average prices? Should I make prior reservations? If you guys have any personal masseuse recommendations, even better.

If you are ever in the south Asian part of the world, I'll be more than happy to help you monger in return.

My PM is not active so please reply on the thread.

Karibu,

Baba.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2348525]When I was in westlands all of the girls I met were online and I told them I was looking for a GF. We would meet have some dinner and go out for drinks I would give them some chocolate and some female stuff as gifts. Would give them 20 to 25 dollars for transportation in the morning and tell them I hope to see them again. I never took a pro out of black diamond or Havana I think they would laugh at me if told them 20 to 25 dollars I had good success with the online girls no drama in the morning. I'm sure most guys give more than that if I was a richer man maybe I would give them 50 dollars most of the Kenyan women I met our sweethearts can't wait to go back.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Interesting. Some advice? Which webside should I look for?

[QUOTE=Poufet;2391473]Hi,

Interesting. Some advice? Which webside should I look for?[/QUOTE]Badoo or tagged now some guys prefer Afro inductions but that a paid site I have a lot of success on free site so need to for me to pay for an online site.

I haven't ever used tinder some guys have success on that app.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2391593]Badoo or tagged now some guys prefer Afro inductions but that a paid site I have a lot of success on free site so need to for me to pay for an online site.

I haven't ever used tinder some guys have success on that app.[/QUOTE]I used badoo in the past and it got me plenty of hook ups. Once in Kenya the badoo pi GS on the phone go all day long.

I notice now though if you join premium for a few quid a week you still have to buy tokens to message the better looking women, is that right?

Hi, in Nairobi tonight, and leaving tomorrow at 3pm, located in Karen area, are they some suggestion on MP easily reachable from there tomorrow morning, with a taxi i guess... ?

A few people in the Tanzania forum have mentioned African women in general have a bad body odour smell.

Do you lot find this to be true or exaggerated, I love black women but have a sensitive nose LOL.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2392213]A few people in the Tanzania forum have mentioned African women in general have a bad body odour smell.

Do you lot find this to be true or exaggerated, I love black women but have a sensitive nose LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't let a little smell stop you from meeting these lovely ladies. When you get into your uber at the airport you will detect the drivers smell. It varies from person to person. Thai girls have 3-4 showers a day. Kenya girls shower in the morning. I ask the Kenya girls to have a shower or bath inside my hotel room. They love a bath! I have had people with bad B. O. sit next to me on long flights so I use vicks vapo rub or Thai balm around my nose when travelling.

I met many girls on Tagged so I had contacts when I hit the ground. I stayed at the expensive but worth it Sankara hotel. At check in, I told the front desk that my friend would join me later as I had booked a double. She said my friend should show I. The. At the desk. I never did that as the hotel is very girl friendly. There is nice outdoor pool bar on the seventh floor with bands on weekends. There are working girls there as well. First night, I took a crazy 23 year old there. $40 for the night A few drinks and then fun in the room. Next day, I hooked up with a 22 year old airline ground crew intern. She was a Luo tribe girl who had three days off. We spent them at Masai Mara which is a must see. Upon return, it was a graduating 21 year old students turn. She was not shy and did almost everything with a smile. Next was a little Kikuyu lady that was working in The Grill restaurant in Westgate mall. Yes, that mall. She was tiny and so happy and fun. She wanted $20 and I gave her $34. Next was a very tall, about 6 feet, Turkana student. I took her to the Kenya museum. Gave her lunch and cab fare for an afternoon delight. One other 22 year catfished me with her photo. She was much bigger in person but I enjoyed watching her bathe. She got my old mobile phone. I had no time but a Kenya / India 24 year old lady dropped by for drinks yesterday. She is coming by tonight after her work to teach me new tricks and then drive me to the airport. Its a dream place for our hobby but its not cheap. I do not mind being generous to kind attractive young ladies. I picked up one restaurant waitress and the rest through tagged. The waitress told me she made $250 a month. Be kind and soft spoken and you will get what we like.

[QUOTE=Buksida1;2393749]Don't let a little smell stop you from meeting these lovely ladies. When you get into your uber at the airport you will detect the drivers smell. It varies from person to person. Thai girls have 3-4 showers a day. Kenya girls shower in the morning. I ask the Kenya girls to have a shower or bath inside my hotel room. They love a bath! I have had people with bad B. O. sit next to me on long flights so I use vicks vapo rub or Thai balm around my nose when travelling.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, glad you enjoyed your trip.

Good report buksida.

I get to Nairobi 3 or 4 times a year and it can be very hit or miss, I'm there in a few weeks time, hopefully I will get a hit.

What do you think about the Kileleshwa area? I am planning to book an Airbnb in that area. The other option is "less then 1 km from Yaya centre". Both apartments look very nice, also have good reviews. I'm just wondering about the location as I have never been in Nairobi. Please help with advice and info.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2394705]What do you think about the Kileleshwa area? I am planning to book an Airbnb in that area. The other option is "less then 1 km from Yaya centre". Both apartments look very nice, also have good reviews. I'm just wondering about the location as I have never been in Nairobi. Please help with advice and info.[/QUOTE]Location is fine in general, but where you planning to go?

Yaya is close by for the shops, close enough to westlands for nightlife on weekend. Close enough to town as well. When I say close enough I mean 10 minutes out of the rush hours in the evening.

[QUOTE=Buksida1;2393749]...Thai girls have 3-4 showers a day. Kenya girls shower in the morning....[/QUOTE]That's why some of us find mongering in Africa more arousing.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2394854]Location is fine in general, but where you planning to go?

Yaya is close by for the shops, close enough to westlands for nightlife on weekend. Close enough to town as well. When I say close enough I mean 10 minutes out of the rush hours in the evening.[/QUOTE]My idea is to meet the freelance girl and to spend the day / night together. Walk around, visit the interesting part of the town with her using her like a guide and company. In the night to go for a drink somewhere, explore the nightlife. And bang her in the meantime LOL. And change her after 1-2 days.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2394705]What do you think about the Kileleshwa area? I am planning to book an Airbnb in that area. The other option is "less then 1 km from Yaya centre". Both apartments look very nice, also have good reviews. I'm just wondering about the location as I have never been in Nairobi. Please help with advice and info.[/QUOTE]I have said many times in this forum that Woodmere in Kilimani is hands down the best place to stay: Minutes from crazy CBD (what monger stays in CBD anymore, all the spots are gone and its too fucking noisy), quiet, greenery, small store on site to buy last minute bottle of wine, walking distance to YaYa, cheap, clean, and all the Ubers know the place! Reata near the NPC (Nairobi Pentecostal Church) is very nice too, and closer to CBD, but its about 107/ night last time I stayed there.

I've been some nights in Nairobi and checked some hotels.

All these were GF without any kind of problem:

- Sarova Stanley (CBD).

- Emerald Hotel (Westlands).

- La Maison Royale (Westlands).

[QUOTE=UngernKhan;2396146]I've been some nights in Nairobi and checked some hotels.

All these were GF without any kind of problem:

- Sarova Stanley (CBD).

- Emerald Hotel (Westlands).

- La Maison Royale (Westlands).[/QUOTE]Wow. A piece of essential intelligence. Keep up the good work. Keep on contributing valuable unparalleled info like that. I like your name though. The full name is Baron Roman Fyodorovich von Ungern-Sternberg. Born in Graz. Styria. Austria. I suppose. Pleasure.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2396296]Wow. A piece of essential intelligence. Keep up the good work. Keep on contributing valuable unparalleled info like that. I like your name though. The full name is Baron Roman Fyodorovich von Ungern-Sternberg. Born in Graz. Styria. Austria. I suppose. Pleasure.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Hi Neddy,

I know that this information could already be found on the forum. My intervention was for updating purposes only.

Having said that, I thank you publicly for your interventions, you are my myth regarding Kenya.

A point in my favor that could please you is that I was probably the only European in Nairobi who negotiated the outrageous prices that were offered to you by girls.

In Westlands the most of WG try to ask for 150-200 dollars. Perhaps due to inexperience with this area I couldn't get under 6000 Ksh.

[QUOTE=UngernKhan;2396531]Hi Neddy,

I know that this information could already be found on the forum. My intervention was for updating purposes only.

Having said that, I thank you publicly for your interventions, you are my myth regarding Kenya.

A point in my favor that could please you is that I was probably the only European in Nairobi who negotiated the outrageous prices that were offered to you by girls.

In Westlands the most of WG try to ask for 150-200 dollars. Perhaps due to inexperience with this area I couldn't get under 6000 Ksh.[/QUOTE]Ungern Khan. ALL Hotels in subsaharan Africa are girl friendly. Except one christian guesthouse in Maralal. Thats why I was a bit sarcastic.

With regards to "asking prices". Its commendable you traded them down to 6000. Which is still double the standard Nairobi Rate. LOL. You never negotiate. You tell them I pay 2000 for massage. Period. The basic mistake is to ask how much. Because then they know you're fresh meat. If they don't like what they hear. Move on. Another tip. The later the night like 2 am prices drop off a cliff as chic's heavily discount to avoid spending loads of money on transport. Look for simple dressed girls sipping on a cheap soft drinks. Avoid the updressed smoking slay queens...

I usually negotiate 2000 and tell them if I am happy with the service you'll get a Tip on top in the morning. Like 500 to 1000.

These are the Nairobi prices.

Another tip.

They ask where you stay. If you say Sarova Stanley they will raise the asking price as you're an obvious high roller. Just feed them bullshit. LOL. Tell them you sleep at Eureka Highrise in Moi avenue. Hahaha.

Neddy.

Who avoids Nairobbery. Way too expensive.

Go to Machakos instead.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2396629]Ungern Khan. ALL Hotels in subsaharan Africa are girl friendly. Except one christian guesthouse in Maralal. Thats why I was a bit sarcastic.

With regards to "asking prices". Its commendable you traded them down to 6000. Which is still double the standard Nairobi Rate. LOL. You never negotiate. You tell them I pay 2000 for massage. Period. The basic mistake is to ask how much. Because then they know you're fresh meat. If they don't like what they hear. Move on. Another tip. The later the night like 2 am prices drop off a cliff as chic's heavily discount to avoid spending loads of money on transport. Look for simple dressed girls sipping on a cheap soft drinks. Avoid the updressed smoking slay queens...

I usually negotiate 2000 and tell them if I am happy with the service you'll get a Tip on top in the morning. Like 500 to 1000..[/QUOTE]I thought I got a decent rate because of talking to other Europeans they told me of 12-14 K Ksh, actually the most of Europeans pay figures of this kind.

I admit my fault by saying that I love those "undressed smoking slay queens". Having said that I have been able to have sex with a good looking girl in microskirt and high heels for free. Just give her 1500 Ksh for the taxi to come back home (OK the real rate of Uber was like 650 Ksh).

Thanks for these others tips. The next year I will try to be smarter. And try Mombasa too.

[QUOTE=UngernKhan;2396836]I thought I got a decent rate because of talking to other Europeans they told me of 12-14 K Ksh, actually the most of Europeans pay figures of this kind.

I admit my fault by saying that I love those "undressed smoking slay queens". Having said that I have been able to have sex with a good looking girl in microskirt and high heels for free. Just give her 1500 Ksh for the taxi to come back home (OK the real rate of Uber was like 650 Ksh).

Thanks for these others tips. The next year I will try to be smarter. And try Mombasa too.[/QUOTE]These "other" Europeans are probably the usually overpaying, clueless NGO / UN / Corporate expats on 10 k plus USD. A month.

12 to 14 k ksh. Thats more than the monthly salary of a night watch man.

But you did good with the micro skirt girl. That's exactly what you do. You give taxi money. I love sexy chics too. But I pay only normal market rate and not the inflated UN / High roller expat rate.

You actually did very well with 1500 ksh.

And it was not free. You paid 1500 ksh. And of course in the morning the girl takes the matatu home for 100 bob. LOL.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2396939] You paid 1500 ksh. And of course in the morning the girl takes the matatu home for 100 bob. LOL.Neddy.[/QUOTE]I respect your posts, and you have been posting for a long time in Africa, but I have also in Kenya, so do you have any pics of these cheap women in the photo gallery? I'd like to see them, and try to decipher what I'm doing wrong, because I like women that look good, smell good, and have stripper bodies, and that ain't happening at 1500. Your often off the beaten path, so do these women have perfume, nice clothes, brush their teeth? I don't set prices for other mongers. Each man has his own taste.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2398953]I respect your posts, and you have been posting for a long time in Africa, but I have also in Kenya, so do you have any pics of these cheap women in the photo gallery? I'd like to see them, and try to decipher what I'm doing wrong, because I like women that look good, smell good, and have stripper bodies, and that ain't happening at 1500. Your often off the beaten path, so do these women have perfume, nice clothes, brush their teeth? I don't set prices for other mongers. Each man has his own taste.[/QUOTE]Quite frankly. I hardly monger in Nairobi. Simply too expensive. This guy stroke luck with 1500. The girls I took were from Simmers, Black Diamond, and Sabina Joy. They were all decently dressed, nice looking. No street skanks. These you can get for 500. I am not setting prices for other mongers. But for me its easy. If I don't get the deal I want I walk straight away. Probably many other mongers insist on that particular chica and that's of course when she has you by the balls. I personally never paid more than 3000 ksh in Nairobi. There is loads of civilians working in shopping malls etc. They make maybe 15 k ksh a month. So a lot likes to complement their income. In general I hunt in Mombasa or on the country side like Nakuru no probs at all to get nice students for a 1000.

I have loads of pics. But I am lazy to compress them down and black out their faces. But I can assure you they are all nice and good looking and smell good. I remember that Taita comes up to me in Simmers and thinking I am a high roller from one of the hotels. She started with 7 k. I started laughing. In the end she wanted to go with me for 3 k. Did I take her. No. Bad Karma.

If I don't find anything I sleep with my pillow.

The advantage I have. My balls are always drained as I spend 3 months at a time in Africa.

Neddy.

Am in nai at the moment. Badoo gojng crazy after I arrived yesterday. Took a luo stunner, 5 ft 7, long nips, solid slim figure, from it today and met her in town after she finished work. She said she will stay the night for 5 k, I said 3 k and she agreed. Saves her a trip home and back to work in the morning.

Gave her a solid 1 hour pounding and she is currently asleep while I watch foot all in my apartment.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2399237]Am in nai at the moment. Badoo gojng crazy after I arrived yesterday. Took a luo stunner, 5 ft 7, long nips, solid slim figure, from it today and met her in town after she finished work. She said she will stay the night for 5 k, I said 3 k and she agreed. Saves her a trip home and back to work in the morning.

Gave her a solid 1 hour pounding and she is currently asleep while I watch foot all in my apartment.[/QUOTE]I looove LUOs. My number ONE tribe. Trouble free. Hot in Bed. After Kambas. Kissiis. Baluhya. Eventually Massai, Turkana, Samburu. Stay away from Kikuyus. Taitas. Digos.

Neddy.

My first question is always. Which tribe? And another tip. Learn Kiswahili. Like. Sema, pesa ngapi jiggi jiggi? Then the price drops off a cliff... As you're in KK territory... Kenya Kimbo... LOL

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2399130]Quite frankly. I hardly monger in Nairobi. Simply too expensive. This guy stroke luck with 1500. The girls I took were from Simmers, Black Diamond, and Sabina Joy. They were all decently dressed, nice looking. No street skanks. These you can get for 500. I am not setting prices for other mongers. But for me its easy. If I don't get the deal I want I walk straight away. Probably many other mongers insist on that particular chica and that's of course when she has you by the balls. I personally never paid more than 3000 ksh in Nairobi. There is loads of civilians working in shopping malls etc. They make maybe 15 k ksh a month. So a lot likes to complement their income. In general I hunt in Mombasa or on the country side like Nakuru no probs at all to get nice students for a 1000.

I have loads of pics. But I am lazy to compress them down and black out their faces. But I can assure you they are all nice and good looking and smell good. I remember that Taita comes up to me in Simmers and thinking I am a high roller from one of the hotels. She started with 7 k. I started laughing. In the end she wanted to go with me for 3 k. Did I take her. No. Bad Karma.

If I don't find anything I sleep with my pillow.

The advantage I have. My balls are always drained as I spend 3 months at a time in Africa.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]In all things it depends on your perspective.

If I were on a short (or long vacation) and I didn't get pussy of my choice everynight I'd be mad.

An African American looks at Africa differently, I don't think I need to see an actual village to see the "The Real Africa" To me the Westlands is just as Real to me as I want to be. At the end of the day a Black woman is like any other Black woman. If I were flying thousands of miles I understand that village girls are available I want to fuck the best of the best.

That's why I ask about non mongering activites, If I dreaming of a sex paradise and I fly in hit the clubs and get a higher number than I expect or the lay isn't what I expect and all I can do is go back to my room and cross my fingers that there isn't a black out, I'm probably going to break down and pay a higher price.

Africa is not what it seems, People read the excellently written posts of seniors and think that all girls are available at all times. Yes there's not a such thing as #metoo here but that doesn't mean that all are available and that even if they're technically available that you can get them. I met a beautiful girl at a phone shop. But she was so damn busy that I couldn't get her on two trips here. I met here while getting her to translate for another girl I was meeting.

I pulled a "freebie" Luo maid out of Sabina Joy while leaving a threesome. We exchanged numbers, we linked up on another trip but our schedules didn't match so we fucked on my last day and I gave her some change (about 3500 ksh).

Actually the maddening thing about Africa is the lack of a sex industry. Even if you go to Sabina Joy you might find a beautiful girl for 1000 Ksh in the short time rooms (which I didn't know about on my first trip) Then there's the white skin factor, If a chick "likes" you the price may drop (a little). It works the same way if a Black american went to europe paying is basically optional again not every girl is into Black guys but the ones who are really are.

Side rant: I don't know why there isn't a sex tourist industry? It's not that Africans object to white guys fucking their women and you have white tourist women fucking African men so it's not that. Why isn't there a Soi Cowboy in Africa? Meaning a place where the best girls work all the time and the prices are codified? Like is said you can fuck doctors and lawyers (and defenitely med students and law students) but it's difficult to fuck actual slay queens because you don't know where they'll actually be. As far as I can tell the best place to find them is on Instagram.

Any thoughts on why they don't specifically cater to sex tourists the way that Thailand, The DR and Brazil does?

Trip.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2399353]I looove LUOs. My number ONE tribe. Trouble free. Hot in Bed. After Kambas. Kissiis. Baluhya. Eventually Massai, Turkana, Samburu. Stay away from Kikuyus. Taitas. Digos.

Neddy.

My first question is always. Which tribe? And another tip. Learn Kiswahili. Like. Sema, pesa ngapi jiggi jiggi? Then the price drops off a cliff... As you're in KK territory... Kenya Kimbo... LOL[/QUOTE]You're correct about Tribes even locals told me that, Even Kikuyu men told me to stay away from Kikuyu women.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2399513]In all things it depends on your perspective.

If I were on a short (or long vacation) and I didn't get pussy of my choice everynight I'd be mad.

An African American looks at Africa differently, I don't think I need to see an actual village to see the "The Real Africa" To me the Westlands is just as Real to me as I want to be. At the end of the day a Black woman is like any other Black woman. If I were flying thousands of miles I understand that village girls are available I want to fuck the best of the best.

That's why I ask about non mongering activites, If I dreaming of a sex paradise and I fly in hit the clubs and get a higher number than I expect or the lay isn't what I expect and all I can do is go back to my room and cross my fingers that there isn't a black out, I'm probably going to break down and pay a higher price.

Africa is not what it seems, People read the excellently written posts of seniors and think that all girls are available at all times. Yes there's not a such thing as #metoo here but that doesn't mean that all are available and that even if they're technically available that you can get them. I met a beautiful girl at a phone shop. But she was so damn busy that I couldn't get her on two trips here. I met here while getting her to translate for another girl I was meeting.

I pulled a "freebie" Luo maid out of Sabina Joy while leaving a threesome. We exchanged numbers, we linked up on another trip but our schedules didn't match so we fucked on my last day and I gave her some change (about 3500 ksh).

Actually the maddening thing about Africa is the lack of a sex industry. Even if you go to Sabina Joy you might find a beautiful girl for 1000 Ksh in the short time rooms (which I didn't know about on my first trip) Then there's the white skin factor, If a chick "likes" you the price may drop (a little). It works the same way if a Black american went to europe paying is basically optional again not every girl is into Black guys but the ones who are really are.

Side rant: I don't know why there isn't a sex tourist industry? It's not that Africans object to white guys fucking their women and you have white tourist women fucking African men so it's not that. Why isn't there a Soi Cowboy in Africa? Meaning a place where the best girls work all the time and the prices are codified? Like is said you can fuck doctors and lawyers (and defenitely med students and law students) but it's difficult to fuck actual slay queens because you don't know where they'll actually be. As far as I can tell the best place to find them is on Instagram.

Any thoughts on why they don't specifically cater to sex tourists the way that Thailand, The DR and Brazil does?

Trip.[/QUOTE]THANKS GOD there is no organized sex industry.
Actually there is a sort of organization... I heard about a brothel in Nairobi situated in a private villa in Westlands... Run by an Israeli.. He rents out white Russian hookers to Nairobi MPs and indian high rollers... The going rate there is 30k ksh...
And it will never be organized. You hit the nail on the head. You never get what you want when you want it. Africans are the greatest opportunists on this planet. Also the chicks. Some come out when rent is due. I know for you it's a bit different as like nakedgunz your black americans. Nevertheless you're Americans. So automatically you're loaded. You're Americans. And everybody knows Americans are filthy rich. (pardon the pun). But once you're traveling long enough in Africa you'll approach a trance like state. Sooner or later you turn into an African. When I look at some of my expat friends who live here 30 years plus. Its a matter of survival. You adjust.

When you get to a stage where you plan only a week ahead. You're ok. If you arrived at 48 hrs. Congrats. You're 100% African.

Neddy.

Who has only two important dates. The date of the flight and the date of the return flight. Everything else in between is the ride into the unknown.

As my good old deceased friend Sir Richard Francis Burton put it so aptly:

Of the gladest moments in human life, methinks is the departure upon a distant journey to unknown lands. Shaking off with one mighty effort the fetters of habit, the leaden weight of Routine, the cloak of many Cares and the Slavery of Home, man feels once more happy. .

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2399515]You're correct about Tribes even locals told me that, Even Kikuyu men told me to stay away from Kikuyu women.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Ask Tob Cohen. Hahaha.

Neddy.

It is still too much of a God fearing christian country and the church is strong so there are Soi Cowboy areas here. That is my theory anyways.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2399606]It is still too much of a God fearing christian country and the church is strong so there are Soi Cowboy areas here. That is my theory anyways.[/QUOTE]Nah that's not it. I read in the local paper about the first African man to marry a white woman in the mid fifties. They also talked about a white colonial era police man who was deported for marrying a local woman.

In Asia there wasn't a batted eye of some euro official taking up with a local but in Africa it was different. I think that's the reason why there isn't a real sex industry here.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2400252]Nah that's not it. I read in the local paper about the first African man to marry a white woman in the mid fifties. They also talked about a white colonial era police man who was deported for marrying a local woman.

In Asia there wasn't a batted eye of some euro official taking up with a local but in Africa it was different. I think that's the reason why there isn't a real sex industry here.

Trip.[/QUOTE]In the colonial area for a white british male it was frowned upon taking a local woman. It was called going native. It was an absolute NO go. The so called happy valley set fucked around. These were the white settlers in the kenyan highlands shagging other whites settlers wives contracting all kinds of STDs.

Just watch OUT OF AFRICA. That was the reality.

Whereas in the german, french or portuguese colonies it was perfectly normal to go "native".

Why would africans need an "industry". Fucking is the most natural thing on earth. Its nothing special... Only some entrepreneurs in the west made a business out of it....

Neddy.

In the areas around lake Victoria polygamism is the norm. Read accounts of Emin Pasha also called Dr. Eduard Schnitzer.. From the 1870? Uganda. A village elder had like 10 pussies he fucked. Perfectly normal....

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2400263]In the colonial area for a white british male it was frowned upon taking a local woman. It was called going native. It was an absolute NO go. The so called happy valley set fucked around. These were the white settlers in the kenyan highlands shagging other whites settlers wives contracting all kinds of STDs.

Just watch OUT OF AFRICA. That was the reality.

Whereas in the german, french or portuguese colonies it was perfectly normal to go "native".

Why would africans need an "industry". Fucking is the most natural thing on earth. Its nothing special... Only some entrepreneurs in the west made a business out of it....

Neddy.

In the areas around lake Victoria polygamism is the norm. Read accounts of Emin Pasha also called Dr. Eduard Schnitzer.. From the 1870? Uganda. A village elder had like 10 pussies he fucked. Perfectly normal....[/QUOTE]In Africa nothing is what it seems. If you're a monger or simply a man coming to Africa for a vacation it would make sense to just get a Slay Queen from Brew Bistro and be done with it.

Cheap is expensive and expensive is cheap. Sure you can take than non pro waitress but she's going to cost more in hassle and time and even money in the long term from the Slay Queen that you'll know where you stand with.

I realize that mongers get got with Thai bar girls but you have to be pretty soft and dumb to marry someone that you know is a working girl, Until you shake off the western mindset you're going to fuck yourself up. It's worse for the guys that didn't come to monger specifically yet fall into it.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2399513]

Side rant: I don't know why there isn't a sex tourist industry? It's not that Africans object to white guys fucking their women and you have white tourist women fucking African men so it's not that. Why isn't there a Soi Cowboy in Africa? Meaning a place where the best girls work all the time and the prices are codified? Like is said you can fuck doctors and lawyers (and defenitely med students and law students) but it's difficult to fuck actual slay queens because you don't know where they'll actually be. As far as I can tell the best place to find them is on Instagram.

Any thoughts on why they don't specifically cater to sex tourists the way that Thailand, The DR and Brazil does?

Trip.[/QUOTE]There is a sex industry on the continent. I mean these threads are evidence of that. The industry is just different. The channels are much more informal, like the many networks and economies across African nations. But "if you know, you know". In a Nairobi context, Brew Bistro or Black Diamonds might as well be Soi Cowboy etc. I remember when I was in Nairobi and I mentioned to some friends that I stopped over in Black Diamonds for some drinks when I arrived. They immediately giggled saying "Ohh, that place is where all the working girls congregate".

I think the industry across the African continent can be summed up as "What's understood, doesn't need to be explained". When it's the end of the month and rent is going to be due soon, go to the upscale clubs / bars and you'll see the sex industry you speak of, LOL. I actually prefer the lowkey nature of things. Also, the industry more so caters to locals than to tourists so there's that. And let's be honest, outside of a few countries, African nations aren't exactly high on the list for most people's travel destinations.

Per the "slay queens", they don't have to be overt seeing as they're highly desired (relatively). They're still in the same clubs and lounges like Brew, but they're just a bit more covert with their operations. That, and they'll attend more 'private' events e. G. Governor's birthday party etc.

And you also rightly alluded to something as well, they're more so on iG and the like. iG allows them to market to a broader audience and select the best offer. A 10/10 slay queen can post pictures from her room or in the club and have different suitors message her and set up a short term situation. When done, she moves on to another. iG has definitely changed the game even on the continent.

Best I could do in this city was 4-5 k, nice girls but experiences weren't as good as Mombasa, I had two days so not enough time for good semi pro contacts. Mombasa I was giving 3 k without even discussing money and they wanted to hang around and meet again but I had 8 days there. Number of girls and quality is higher than Mombasa, but vibe here is more pro.

Only place with girls midweek seemed to be black diamond, some stunners in there.

The response to 3 k is usually that it will only cover transport money. But ratio is in your favour.

[QUOTE=MtVadose;2401594]Best I could do in this city was 4-5 k, nice girls but experiences weren't as good as Mombasa, I had two days so not enough time for good semi pro contacts. Mombasa I was giving 3 k without even discussing money and they wanted to hang around and meet again but I had 8 days there. Number of girls and quality is higher than Mombasa, but vibe here is more pro.

Only place with girls midweek seemed to be black diamond, some stunners in there.

The response to 3 k is usually that it will only cover transport money. But ratio is in your favour.[/QUOTE]This is a really good no bullshit report.

I came into Nairobi on Tuesday evening from Tanzania after having the time of my life in Dar. You can read about my adventure in Dar es Salaam on the Tanzania forum.

I arrived in Nairobi, and settled down in my hotel, the Sarova Stanley, had dinner, checked some emails did some work and then headed to the streets to find pussy.

I have never been a big believer in paying large amounts for pussy, so I'm always on the lookout for deals. Thanks to our in-house legend, Neddy69 and a host of other contributors on this forum, I had an idea of reasonable prices to pay for an all-night encounter. I am a big fan of the all-night encounter; I feel like it's a lot more economical and you get your money's worth.

So, I summoned a Taxi guy who was hanging around my hotel and told him to take me to a place not far away where I could get pussy cheap. I had a list of places to visit based on the recommendations so generously shared by the gentlemen on this forum, but I was just curious to hear if there were any other places. The Taxi guy told me of a club called Eureka in town. He charged me Ksh 1000. I told him to hold on, while I went to my hotel lobby, connected to the hotel WiFi and checked to see Uber rates to the said Eureka Hotel. The Uber's estimated price was Ksh 200. Fuck this guy, I thought to myself. So I called an Uber who came right to the front of my hotel and picked me up. The other Taxi guy saw me enter the Uber and I gave him a knowing smile. The opportunistic fuck. It's not me you're going to scam with your high prices.

So, I arrived at the Eureka Hotel. It's a shithole, really right in the center of town. A ghetto zone, actually. There were girls both upstairs and downstairs, plenty girls. I went upstairs, settled down, ordered my Guinness and surveyed the land. It was around 11 pm, and more girls were still trooping in, while I sipped my Guinness and kept looking around. I finally settled on a girl called Betty. In her mid 20's, or so it seems. She's a student who was hustling on the side. Good English. Kenyans speak very good English. I beckoned to her and she came hurrying to my seat. I offered her a drink. She bought Guiness, and we began to negotiate. She wanted Ksh 3 k for the night. I offered Ksh 2 k, plus the drink. I told her everything I wanted. She agreed. We used her phone to order an Uber back to my hotel and she gave me one of the best Blowjobs I have ever had in a while. We fucked 3 times throughout the night. Nice experience. Will definitely call her again. Apparently, right next to Eureka is another club called Batis. The girls there are ugly as fuck, but I imagine they'd be cheap too. I plan to try Batis today. Kenya is looking good, but my heart still longs for Tanzania.

[QUOTE=Guyman007;2402047]I came into Nairobi on Tuesday evening from Tanzania after having the time of my life in Dar. You can read about my adventure in Dar es Salaam on the Tanzania forum.

I arrived in Nairobi, and settled down in my hotel, the Sarova Stanley, had dinner, checked some emails did some work and then headed to the streets to find pussy.

I have never been a big believer in paying large amounts for pussy, so I'm always on the lookout for deals. Thanks to our in-house legend, Neddy69 and a host of other contributors on this forum, I had an idea of reasonable prices to pay for an all-night encounter. I am a big fan of the all-night encounter; I feel like it's a lot more economical and you get your money's worth.

So, I summoned a Taxi guy who was hanging around my hotel and told him to take me to a place not far away where I could get pussy cheap. I had a list of places to visit based on the recommendations so generously shared by the gentlemen on this forum, but I was just curious to hear if there were any other places. The Taxi guy told me of a club called Eureka in town. He charged me Ksh 1000. I told him to hold on, while I went to my hotel lobby, connected to the hotel WiFi and checked to see Uber rates to the said Eureka Hotel. The Uber's estimated price was Ksh 200. Fuck this guy, I thought to myself. So I called an Uber who came right to the front of my hotel and picked me up. The other Taxi guy saw me enter the Uber and I gave him a knowing smile. The opportunistic fuck. It's not me you're going to scam with your high prices.

So, I arrived at the Eureka Hotel. It's a shithole, really right in the center of town. A ghetto zone, actually. There were girls both upstairs and downstairs, plenty girls. I went upstairs, settled down, ordered my Guinness and surveyed the land. It was around 11 pm, and more girls were still trooping in, while I sipped my Guinness and kept looking around. I finally settled on a girl called Betty. In her mid 20's, or so it seems. She's a student who was hustling on the side. Good English. Kenyans speak very good English. I beckoned to her and she came hurrying to my seat. I offered her a drink. She bought Guiness, and we began to negotiate. She wanted Ksh 3 k for the night. I offered Ksh 2 k, plus the drink. I told her everything I wanted. She agreed. We used her phone to order an Uber back to my hotel and she gave me one of the best Blowjobs I have ever had in a while. We fucked 3 times throughout the night. Nice experience. Will definitely call her again. Apparently, right next to Eureka is another club called Batis. The girls there are ugly as fuck, but I imagine they'd be cheap too. I plan to try Batis today. Kenya is looking good, but my heart still longs for Tanzania.[/QUOTE]You've been in Sabina Joy. Its in Moi Avenue. The Building and the ST Hotel are called Eureka Highrise. Blowjob? Sounds like LUO. If you step out of the Sarova Stanley be expected to be ripped off by the taxis. LOL.

Neddy.

Who sorely misses Simmers. Ah tempos passados.

[QUOTE=Guyman007;2402047]I came into Nairobi on Tuesday evening from Tanzania after having the time of my life in Dar. You can read about my adventure in Dar es Salaam on the Tanzania forum.

I arrived in Nairobi, and settled down in my hotel, the Sarova Stanley, had dinner, checked some emails did some work and then headed to the streets to find pussy.

I have never been a big believer in paying large amounts for pussy, so I'm always on the lookout for deals. Thanks to our in-house legend, Neddy69 and a host of other contributors on this forum, I had an idea of reasonable prices to pay for an all-night encounter. I am a big fan of the all-night encounter; I feel like it's a lot more economical and you get your money's worth.

So, I summoned a Taxi guy who was hanging around my hotel and told him to take me to a place not far away where I could get pussy cheap. I had a list of places to visit based on the recommendations so generously shared by the gentlemen on this forum, but I was just curious to hear if there were any other places. The Taxi guy told me of a club called Eureka in town. He charged me Ksh 1000. I told him to hold on, while I went to my hotel lobby, connected to the hotel WiFi and checked to see Uber rates to the said Eureka Hotel. The Uber's estimated price was Ksh 200. Fuck this guy, I thought to myself. So I called an Uber who came right to the front of my hotel and picked me up. The other Taxi guy saw me enter the Uber and I gave him a knowing smile. The opportunistic fuck. It's not me you're going to scam with your high prices.

So, I arrived at the Eureka Hotel. It's a shithole, really right in the center of town. A ghetto zone, actually. There were girls both upstairs and downstairs, plenty girls. I went upstairs, settled down, ordered my Guinness and surveyed the land. It was around 11 pm, and more girls were still trooping in, while I sipped my Guinness and kept looking around. I finally settled on a girl called Betty. In her mid 20's, or so it seems. She's a student who was hustling on the side. Good English. Kenyans speak very good English. I beckoned to her and she came hurrying to my seat. I offered her a drink. She bought Guiness, and we began to negotiate. She wanted Ksh 3 k for the night. I offered Ksh 2 k, plus the drink. I told her everything I wanted. She agreed. We used her phone to order an Uber back to my hotel and she gave me one of the best Blowjobs I have ever had in a while. We fucked 3 times throughout the night. Nice experience. Will definitely call her again. Apparently, right next to Eureka is another club called Batis. The girls there are ugly as fuck, but I imagine they'd be cheap too. I plan to try Batis today. Kenya is looking good, but my heart still longs for Tanzania.[/QUOTE]It showed again one thing. You did RTFF and acted accordingly. A lot of newbees ask the dumb questions over and over again. Everythings there if you're not a lazy dumbass. You'll find EPIC FUCKS in all countries. You seem to be a natural talent. LOL. Hanging out in the Sarova Stanley and hunting in Sabina Joy. Hahahaha. Wait till you hit squirters country Uganda and Rwanda. Read my posts and you're all set. If you want to breathe old colonial atmosphere stay in the Speke in Kampala. Run down.
And in Kigali the Mille Collines is breathing history. The original Hotel Rwanda out of the movie.
But I love these old colonial places. Like Hotel Baron in Aleppo or the Cecil in Alexandria. King David in Jerusalem. My favorite was The Old Cataract in Assuan. Have the tea at the terrace overlooking the River Nile. Some decades ago.

Neddy.

Who contemplates to move a couple of nights to the Hotel du Thermes.

To top it all off. Listen to this tune have a whisky in your hand and overlook the stunning African evening sky from your terrace...

https://youtu.be/iUKGEAdSEFs

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2402180]You've been in Sabina Joy. Its in Moi Avenue. The Building and the ST Hotel are called Eureka Highrise. Blowjob? Sounds like LUO. If you step out of the Sarova Stanley be expected to be ripped off by the taxis. LOL.

Neddy.

Who sorely misses Simmers. Ah tempos passados.[/QUOTE]Haha Neddy69, you know this stuff too well. Turns out the lady was actually part LUO!

I had a long day with work on Wednesday so I was a bit tired physically when I arrived my hotel in the evening around 7 pm. But I knew I needed to have pussy for the day. I called the number of the lady I had met the night before and asked her if she could come to my Hotel room since I was tired and wasn't particularly interested in going out. I just wanted to stay indoors and smash. She apologized and told me that someone else. A muzungu (as they are called in these parts. A white man), had booked her for the night. I asked her how much he was paying her. She said the white man always gave her anywhere from Ksh 5 k to 10 k. The dumb fuck. Or maybe not. Maybe he's just a rich man and it means nothing to him. Apparently, the mzungu met her at Simmers a couple of years ago and always called her over whenever he was in Nairobi. We made small talk, and she told me that Simmers used to be her spot back in the day until some fuckers demolished it. She spoke glowingly of the place. Apparently, Simmers was one hell of a popping place back in the day. A pussy paradise of sorts. Many of the girls who used to pitch their tents there now hang out on the streets, or some of those dingy clubs in the CBD. I asked her what her tribe was, and she said she is mixed. Luo and Kamba. I promised to meet her when next I'm in Nairobi. She offered to hook me up with a friend of here. No, I told her. I prefer to spot talent for myself first hand and make my own selection. She asked to come over to my hotel the next day. Unfortunately, I would be traveling. Ordered room service, checked some emails, took some pain killers for a headache I was having, and went to bed by 9 pm.

I woke up at some minutes after midnight feeling refreshed and wanting pussy. I had bought a Safaricom line earlier in the day so as to be able to get data to call for an Uber whenever I needed. The ordinary Nairobi taxis are prohibitively expensive and I can't even understand why anyone would use them when Uber and Bolt prices are so much lower. I ordered an Uber to take me to Batis, close to Eureka, where I had been the night before. As mentioned earlier, the place is a real dump. Hoodrats everywhere, some with body odour. I mean, I don't discriminate, and happily smash hoodrats, but some of the girls I saw could give a young bloke nightmares. No, thank you. In any case, I put my research hat on, and asked three random girls for prices for the night. A few of the girls I spoke to were happy to follow me for Ksh 1,500. But I wasn't feeling any of them. I find that I'm generous when I'm in East Africa. I bought all three girls I engaged a beer. Back in Nigeria, I would be called a 'maga' (dumb fuck) for doing this. No matter. I'm happy to give. I called an Uber and went to Tamasha, a nice open-air bar / restaurant / club in Hurlingham. Lots of talents there, but they looked upmarket. I took a table and asked a stunning lady who was drinking next to me how much she would want for the night. She asked if I was from West Africa. I said yes. She giggled and boldly said Ksh 10 k for the night. I roared with laughter. Not today, Satan. I wished her well, paid my tab and left. Tamasha seems to be a bit upmarket, favored by the young, high-flying urban professionals. The car park was littered with nice cars. Range rovers, benzes, beemers. Clearly an upwardly mobile establishment. Maybe that's why the girl could tell me Ksh 10 k with boldness.

I left Tamasha and walked down the road. Ah, it's the famous Argwings Khodek road. A hub for streetwalkers. There were many of them on the street, lurking in the dark corners, calling out to you. I walked slowly, sizing up each one, smiling and waving at them. My kind of shit. I then stumbled on one I fancied. A bit mature. In her mid 30's. I find I'm biased towards the slightly more mature ones. They have less drama than the late teens and early twenty-something year-olds. Anyway, her name was Sheila. I told her the drill. Long BJ, boob sucking, various positions. The whole works, the whole night. She asked for Ksh 3 k. I could tell from her eyes that she was humble. The type I like. I countered with Ksh 1,500. I told her I was staying in town, and from my hotel, she could easily get a bus to wherever the hell she was going. She agreed happily. She asked for 50 bob to buy a local gin drink from some shady guy lurking in the corner who sold sweets, condoms and other paraphernalia. I obliged. We walked back to Tamasha and then I ordered an Uber.

Back in the hotel, she was a great sport. She was Kamba, and she fucked my brains out. She was very eager to please and did as she was told. Her BBJ started off a bit badly; there was too much teeth, but then I cautioned her and she improved tremendously almost immediately. About 20 minutes BJ, a decent performance. 7. 5 over 10. Not bad. Now, where she excelled was in the fucking. She took control. I don't know what was in that local gin she consumed, but that shit gave her some sort of super powers. This chick pushed me to the bed and rode me like crazy. She was actually very wet and did not need any lubricant whatsoever. She was moaning like mad. I'm no fool and know these girls fake these things many times, but hell, this girl was wet and horny, and she was really into it. The way she was on top and grinding me, it was clear she was actually in pursuit of her own orgasm as much as she was in pursuit of mine. I love that shit. We smashed for about 20 minutes, then I came. I washed up, chatted with her some more and poured myself a JD. She did not care for my drink. She had her own local gin. No matter. Afterwards she gave me another BJ. I did not come or anything, but I was pleased sleeping with a hard dick, secure in the knowledge that I was going to smash again in the morning.

Around 7 am, she woke me up with a BJ. This is the shit I dream about. Me sleeping and then some chick just starts blowing me, and then I wake up. This happened. What a beautiful way to start the morning. She blew me for roughly 20 minutes as I lay down. It was a good BJ, particularly as she was obviously working extra hard not to use any teeth. Then I put on a condom and smashed. Doggy and missionary. She was sober now, not crazy like a few hours before. I busted my nut in about 15 minutes. A good outing in all. Gave her Ksh 2 k and she was very happy. Will call her again. Happy with how my Nairobi trip turned out and I'm starting to like this place, but my heart still yearns for Tanzania, the country of the Most High.

[QUOTE=Guyman007;2402276]Haha Neddy69, you know this stuff too well. Turns out the lady was actually part LUO!

I had a long day with work on Wednesday so I was a bit tired physically when I arrived my hotel in the evening around 7 pm. But I knew I needed to have pussy for the day. I called the number of the lady I had met the night before and asked her if she could come to my Hotel room since I was tired and wasn't particularly interested in going out. I just wanted to stay indoors and smash. She apologized and told me that someone else. A muzungu (as they are called in these parts. A white man), had booked her for the night. I asked her how much he was paying her. She said the white man always gave her anywhere from Ksh 5 k to 10 k. The dumb fuck. Or maybe not. Maybe he's just a rich man and it means nothing to him. Apparently, the mzungu met her at Simmers a couple of years ago and always called her over whenever he was in Nairobi. We made small talk, and she told me that Simmers used to be her spot back in the day until some fuckers demolished it. She spoke glowingly of the place. Apparently, Simmers was one hell of a popping place back in the day. A pussy paradise of sorts. Many of the girls who used to pitch their tents there now hang out on the streets, or some of those dingy clubs in the CBD. I asked her what her tribe was, and she said she is mixed. Luo and Kamba. I promised to meet her when next I'm in Nairobi. She offered to hook me up with a friend of here. No, I told her. I prefer to spot talent for myself first hand and make my own selection. She asked to come over to my hotel the next day. Unfortunately, I would be traveling. Ordered room service, checked some emails, took some pain killers for a headache I was having, and went to bed by 9 pm.

I woke up at some minutes after midnight feeling refreshed and wanting pussy. I had bought a Safaricom line earlier in the day so as to be able to get data to call for an Uber whenever I needed. The ordinary Nairobi taxis are prohibitively expensive and I can't even understand why anyone would use them when Uber and Bolt prices are so much lower. I ordered an Uber to take me to Batis, close to Eureka, where I had been the night before. As mentioned earlier, the place is a real dump. Hoodrats everywhere, some with body odour. I mean, I don't discriminate, and happily smash hoodrats, but some of the girls I saw could give a young bloke nightmares. No, thank you. In any case, I put my research hat on, and asked three random girls for prices for the night. A few of the girls I spoke to were happy to follow me for Ksh 1,500. But I wasn't feeling any of them. I find that I'm generous when I'm in East Africa. I bought all three girls I engaged a beer. Back in Nigeria, I would be called a 'maga' (dumb fuck) for doing this. No matter. I'm happy to give. I called an Uber and went to Tamasha, a nice open-air bar / restaurant / club in Hurlingham. Lots of talents there, but they looked upmarket. I took a table and asked a stunning lady who was drinking next to me how much she would want for the night. She asked if I was from West Africa. I said yes. She giggled and boldly said Ksh 10 k for the night. I roared with laughter. Not today, Satan. I wished her well, paid my tab and left. Tamasha seems to be a bit upmarket, favored by the young, high-flying urban professionals. The car park was littered with nice cars. Range rovers, benzes, beemers. Clearly an upwardly mobile establishment. Maybe that's why the girl could tell me Ksh 10 k with boldness.

I left Tamasha and walked down the road. Ah, it's the famous Argwings Khodek road. A hub for streetwalkers. There were many of them on the street, lurking in the dark corners, calling out to you. I walked slowly, sizing up each one, smiling and waving at them. My kind of shit. I then stumbled on one I fancied. A bit mature. In her mid 30's. I find I'm biased towards the slightly more mature ones. They have less drama than the late teens and early twenty-something year-olds. Anyway, her name was Sheila. I told her the drill. Long BJ, boob sucking, various positions. The whole works, the whole night. She asked for Ksh 3 k. I could tell from her eyes that she was humble. The type I like. I countered with Ksh 1,500. I told her I was staying in town, and from my hotel, she could easily get a bus to wherever the hell she was going. She agreed happily. She asked for 50 bob to buy a local gin drink from some shady guy lurking in the corner who sold sweets, condoms and other paraphernalia. I obliged. We walked back to Tamasha and then I ordered an Uber.

Back in the hotel, she was a great sport. She was Kamba, and she fucked my brains out. She was very eager to please and did as she was told. Her BBJ started off a bit badly; there was too much teeth, but then I cautioned her and she improved tremendously almost immediately. About 20 minutes BJ, a decent performance. 7. 5 over 10. Not bad. Now, where she excelled was in the fucking. She took control. I don't know what was in that local gin she consumed, but that shit gave her some sort of super powers. This chick pushed me to the bed and rode me like crazy. She was actually very wet and did not need any lubricant whatsoever. She was moaning like mad. I'm no fool and know these girls fake these things many times, but hell, this girl was wet and horny, and she was really into it. The way she was on top and grinding me, it was clear she was actually in pursuit of her own orgasm as much as she was in pursuit of mine. I love that shit. We smashed for about 20 minutes, then I came. I washed up, chatted with her some more and poured myself a JD. She did not care for my drink. She had her own local gin. No matter. Afterwards she gave me another BJ. I did not come or anything, but I was pleased sleeping with a hard dick, secure in the knowledge that I was going to smash again in the morning.

Around 7 am, she woke me up with a BJ. This is the shit I dream about. Me sleeping and then some chick just starts blowing me, and then I wake up. This happened. What a beautiful way to start the morning. She blew me for roughly 20 minutes as I lay down. It was a good BJ, particularly as she was obviously working extra hard not to use any teeth. Then I put on a condom and smashed. Doggy and missionary. She was sober now, not crazy like a few hours before. I busted my nut in about 15 minutes. A good outing in all. Gave her Ksh 2 k and she was very happy. Will call her again. Happy with how my Nairobi trip turned out and I'm starting to like this place, but my heart still yearns for Tanzania, the country of the Most High.[/QUOTE]Ah. You got the best of both worlds Kamba / Luo mix. These tribes don't do FGM. My experience with Kenyan or African chics in general they don't fake. They enjoy to the fullest.

Spot on. Upmarket joints. Upmarket prices.

In the good old times Simmers was one of the hotspots. The other one was Florida / Madhouse. Now most of the chics are sorta homeless. And the mongers too. I always used to love the Congolese lifeband in Simmers.

BTW as you seem to be Nigerian. The absolute best porn style sex I had with a nigerian Igbo Squirter. Nigeria is long time on my bucket list. But if I go. I'd like to stay three months.

Anyhow. Enjoy. You'll have a big bootie fest in Kampala. Nothing wrong paying a few beers as long as it doesn't break the bank.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2402367]Ah. You got the best of both worlds Kamba / Luo mix. These tribes don't do FGM. My experience with Kenyan or African chics in general they don't fake. They enjoy to the fullest.

Spot on. Upmarket joints. Upmarket prices.

In the good old times Simmers was one of the hotspots. The other one was Florida / Madhouse. Now most of the chics are sorta homeless. And the mongers too. I always used to love the Congolese lifeband in Simmers.

BTW as you seem to be Nigerian. The absolute best porn style sex I had with a nigerian Igbo Squirter. Nigeria is long time on my bucket list. But if I go. I'd like to stay three months.

Anyhow. Enjoy. You'll have a big bootie fest in Kampala. Nothing wrong paying a few beers as long as it doesn't break the bank.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Hay Neddy.

I follow message about Kenya and always be surprised with the report some people send.

I know New Stanley and the other upgrade hotels and I know when you invited a nairobi lady to New Stanley or Serena you pay the high price because they also know the hotels.

New Stanley have a very strict security and bringing a lady inside get always attention from the staff special the SW because of the style.

This are story tellers who want to take attention and that is why I only read but this last one is not real.

I am still hunting but on my own way my favorite place is now Karen with the HUB, Waterfront and the Galeria good hunting place special students by day and night.

The hotels in the area like Ongta Rongai and Ngong are more GF and better prices + quality.

Greetings Ngong.

[QUOTE=Guyman007;2402276]

I woke up at some minutes after midnight feeling refreshed and wanting pussy. I had bought a Safaricom line earlier in the day so as to be able to get data to call for an Uber whenever I needed. The ordinary Nairobi taxis are prohibitively expensive and I can't even understand why anyone would use them when Uber and Bolt prices are so much lower. I ordered an Uber to take me to Batis, close to Eureka, where I had been the night before. As mentioned earlier, the place is a real dump. Hoodrats everywhere, some with body odour. I mean, I don't discriminate, and happily smash hoodrats, but some of the girls I saw could give a young bloke nightmares. No, thank you. In any case, I put my research hat on, and asked three random girls for prices for the night. A few of the girls I spoke to were happy to follow me for Ksh 1,500. But I wasn't feeling any of them. I find that I'm generous when I'm in East Africa. I bought all three girls I engaged a beer. Back in Nigeria, I would be called a 'maga' (dumb fuck) for doing this.[/QUOTE]Your story sounds interesting but I thought this club is shut down. Google maps stated is closed and also can find some reports on kenyatalk forums people saying its shut down many people get drugged here with mchele before looks like it was completely shit hole place.

[QUOTE=NGong;2402644]Hay Neddy.

I follow message about Kenya and always be surprised with the report some people send.

I know New Stanley and the other upgrade hotels and I know when you invited a nairobi lady to New Stanley or Serena you pay the high price because they also know the hotels.

New Stanley have a very strict security and bringing a lady inside get always attention from the staff special the SW because of the style.

This are story tellers who want to take attention and that is why I only read but this last one is not real.

I am still hunting but on my own way my favorite place is now Karen with the HUB, Waterfront and the Galeria good hunting place special students by day and night.

The hotels in the area like Ongta Rongai and Ngong are more GF and better prices + quality.

Greetings Ngong.[/QUOTE]Good to know you're still alive and kicking. One of these days when I am in NBO I'll call on you.

But my hunting grounds are outside of NBO. In fact I'll be in Uganda from January on.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2402822]Good to know you're still alive and kicking. One of these days when I am in NBO I'll call on you.

But my hunting grounds are outside of NBO. In fact I'll be in Uganda from January on.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Hay Neddy old hunters are like soldiers they never die.

My hunting ground is also outside NBO. This hunter go to Kericho. Bomet - Narok and have always his target for the day.

Why staying in that area where the muzungu spoiled the price you can better go to the source and take ther the first and the best before they go to the market.

How is Uganda this moment when you go by car ther is a good spot between Busia and Kisumu but you have the experience to see it by your self.

See you when you are back.

Ngong.

[QUOTE=NGong;2402847]Hay Neddy old hunters are like soldiers they never die.

My hunting ground is also outside NBO. This hunter go to Kericho. Bomet - Narok and have always his target for the day.

Why staying in that area where the muzungu spoiled the price you can better go to the source and take ther the first and the best before they go to the market.

How is Uganda this moment when you go by car ther is a good spot between Busia and Kisumu but you have the experience to see it by your self.

See you when you are back.

Ngong.[/QUOTE]I am in the planning stages. I might get an EATV so I can roam freely. In my bucket list are Migori and Homa Bay as I am partial to Luo chicas. But also to visit some Ugandan secondary towns.

As you say. Unspoiled places. Pussy you can find in any village. I don't know if I make it as far as Nairobbery. Rather hang out in Machakos. Kambas my second best tribe after Luos.

Neddy.

Anyone use Ibis Styles Hotel in Westlands? GF?

[QUOTE=MtVadose;2401594]Best I could do in this city was 4-5 k, nice girls but experiences weren't as good as Mombasa, I had two days so not enough time for good semi pro contacts. Mombasa I was giving 3 k without even discussing money and they wanted to hang around and meet again but I had 8 days there. Number of girls and quality is higher than Mombasa, but vibe here is more pro.Only place with girls midweek seemed to be black diamond, some stunners in there.The response to 3 k is usually that it will only cover transport money. But ratio is in your favour.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Guyman007;2402047]I came into Nairobi on Tuesday evening from Tanzania after having the time of my life in Dar. You can read about my adventure in Dar es Salaam on the Tanzania forum.I arrived in Nairobi, and settled down in my hotel, the Sarova Stanley, had dinner, checked some emails did some work and then headed to the streets to find pussy.I have never been a big believer in paying large amounts for pussy, so I'm always on the lookout for deals. Thanks to our in-house legend, Neddy69 and a host of other contributors on this forum, I had an idea of reasonable prices to pay for an all-night encounter. I am a big fan of the all-night encounter; I feel like it's a lot more economical and you get your money's worth.[/QUOTE]You guys didn't read about K1 on Tue. AND Thur. Night? Throngs of pussy. Have your driver hang with you and get a bottle, buying drinks does not work there. In fact buying drinks anywhere is seen as cheap charlie. Drinking gin is also a complete African dumb fuck view of not being a baller. You got to have the best whiskey on the table. K1 is complete fun-good music, lots of pussy.

[URL]https://www.sde.co.ke/thenairobian/article/2001354305/the-day-nairobi-s-oldest-prostitute-retired-after-servicing-over-28-000-men[/URL]

The day Nairobi’s oldest prostitute retired after servicing over 28,000 men

If you look Western or hang-out around Westerners be on alert, the Somali shabab are known to hit Nairobi at ease.

They usually pick fancy targets to make a statement, the Kenyan security usually fails to stop those attacks.

Does anyone know how much the best lookers in black diamond can be bargained down too?

I'm early 30's, not bad looking and in good shape if that helps.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2410623]Does anyone know how much the best lookers in black diamond can be bargained down too?

I'm early 30's, not bad looking and in good shape if that helps.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The few times I've been to Black Diamond I have took them for 4 k.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2410623]Does anyone know how much the best lookers in black diamond can be bargained down too?

I'm early 30's, not bad looking and in good shape if that helps.

Thanks.[/QUOTE] its posible you can bargain them to 2 k short time
or 3 k all night if not show yourself as clueless. Just never ask how much they want because they will tell you silly amounts or price in dollars. Always offer your price first. But its also depends from girls some go some not.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2410813]You can bargain them to 2 k short time
or 3 k all night if not show yourself as clueless.[/QUOTE]Nice one, thanks for the reply, really enjoy reading your reports Pokeris.

[URL]https://girlsheavens.com/sex-holiday-in-kenya/[/URL]

Out of interest does anyone think there will be more terror attacks in Kenya on tourists due to the situation with Iran and America?

Came to Nairobi last November. Nairobi is full of awesome women. Over time you make better friends. Am in a quasi-relationship with one of my pick ups. She is smart, and sexy as hell in bed. I would love to watch her service another guy. Basically get cuckolded. If there is anybody visiting who would like to have her. Can share photos and details.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2410812]The few times I've been to Black Diamond I have took them for 4 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mombie appreciate it.

Looking into accommodation now. I prefer a hotel to an apartment the first time.

Has anyone stayed at Parkland Shades hotel or Joy Palace hotel? If so are they and good and GF?

All I need is a clean room, WiFi and a shower, nothing fancy, more interested in location.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2410966]Out of interest does anyone think there will be more terror attacks in Kenya on tourists due to the situation with Iran and America?[/QUOTE]First of all. Al Shabab is a sunni terrorist organization operating out of Somalia aligned with IS. They are a splinter group which developed out of the Islamic court union. Absolutely non related to the current regime in Iran. The worst time was in 2013. But also last year there was the attack on Dusit. There were attacks near Boni forest on some busses and a Naval base in Lamu county.

Terrorists are the least of my worry. The most dangerous in Africa is road traffic accidents.

Neddy.

I've stayed at Parklands Shade a few times. Be aware that it's part of K1 club which gets busy Tuesdays & Thursdays especially, so for the average tourist it would be noisy, but for you it could be a gold mine.

The askari came hammering on my door 5 minutes into a threesome once as you have to walk through reception, but people only stay there to party so it's basically GF.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2410966]Out of interest does anyone think there will be more terror attacks in Kenya on tourists due to the situation with Iran and America?[/QUOTE]I'd probably give Lamu Island a miss but despite that the chances of something happening in the tourist zones are quite low.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2411291]I'd probably give Lamu Island a miss but despite that the chances of something happening in the tourist zones are quite low.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Nice one, cheers.

Hopefully some of you lot will be around when I go, so I can buy you drinks to say thanks.

[QUOTE=Tungsten2;2411227]I've stayed at Parklands Shade a few times. Be aware that it's part of K1 club which gets busy Tuesdays & Thursdays especially, so for the average tourist it would be noisy, but for you it could be a gold mine.

The askari came hammering on my door 5 minutes into a threesome once as you have to walk through reception, but people only stay there to party so it's basically GF.[/QUOTE]Brilliant, thanks.

I like to go out at night and sleep daytime anyway so might be ideal.

One last question, sorry.

If I'm just going to Nairobi, which injections, tablets should I get before going?

Thanks again, appreciate it.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2412278]One last question, sorry.

If I'm just going to Nairobi, which injections, tablets should I get before going?

Thanks again, appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Only yellow shot is needed to enter country, also malaria tablets are useful while out there.

[QUOTE=PimpGreen;2412822]Only yellow shot is needed to enter country, also malaria tablets are useful while out there.[/QUOTE]Vaccination against yellow fever is mandatory only for Kenya when the seven days before entering Kenya have been in a yellow fever country.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2412278]One last question, sorry.

If I'm just going to Nairobi, which injections, tablets should I get before going?

Thanks again, appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Malaria: I need them to Kenya?

Against Malaria is currently no available vaccinate. It is possible to use malaria To protect yourself against infection with malaria when stung by a mosquito. Whether you need malaria depends on the size of the risk you at your destination incurs an infection with malaria. Kenya are advised malaria.

Kenya you need the malaria Malarone or Lariam. In consultation with the doctor Home Vaccination is here made a choice. This depends partly on your trip (expensive) and your health.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2412278]One last question, sorry.

If I'm just going to Nairobi, which injections, tablets should I get before going?

Thanks again, appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
Tetanus, Hepatitis ABC, Cholera, Typhoid. Get a yellow WHO Vaccination pass.

Yellow fever is NOT necessary when you come from Europe or the US. It is advisable to get it if you plan to travel within Africa. The cheapest way. Go on arrival in Nairobi or Mombasa airport and ask for the port health officer. He is authorized to vaccine Yellow fever which is now valid for live. Dirt cheap.

Malaria prophylaxis. I personally never take chemoprophylaxis. Not really necessary in Nairobi and Mombasa. If you want to take prophylaxis take 100 mg Doxycycline daily dirt cheap in local pharmacies. Forget the expensive rubbish your local doctor in your home country tries to prescribe. I personally have stuff which kills the malaria parasite within hours 100%. But it's not approved by the pharmaceutical Mafia.

I only use exposure prophylaxis. That is. If you arrive in your room. close all windows. Use half a can of insectcide. Spray in all corners in a circular movement. Leave the room.Wait for 20 minutes. All dudu should be dead by now.
In the evening wear socks and long trousers treated with permethrine. Bring NOBITE blue for clothes and NOBITE white for the skin which contains 50% DEET. All other stuff like AUTAN is rubbish. Check your room for mosquito screen in front of the window or mosquito net. Sleep under it. or if you have a ceiling fan over your bed use it on stage 2 or 3. The mozzie is simply blown off.

Other medication? Bring nothing. Serious. I have never seen more pharmacies in my life than in Africa. I use Azithromycine all the time for example..Made in Kenya 250 bob. If you insist on imported stuff like Zithromax same Azithromycine from pfizer pay 2000 bob... Another tipp. Pharmacies try to sell you the expensive imported stuff..Insist on local made or indian equivalents.
Unless you're on specialist medication like blood pressure medication I bring nothing any more except sprayable wound cover which is excellent and very handy as small cuts and other small wounds get infected very easy in tropics.

Sir Neddy.

To live in Africa you have to be
half doctor in tropical medicine
half vehicle mechanic
know about plumbing electrical wiring
how to drill a borehole
etc...

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2413037]Tetanus, Hepatitis ABC, Cholera, Typhoid. Get a yellow WHO Vaccination pass.

Yellow fever is NOT necessary when you come from Europe or the US. It is advisable to get it if you plan to travel within Africa. The cheapest way. Go on arrival in Nairobi or Mombasa airport and ask for the port health officer. He is authorized to vaccine Yellow fever which is now valid for live. Dirt cheap.

Malaria prophylaxis. I personally never take chemoprophylaxis. Not really necessary in Nairobi and Mombasa. If you want to take prophylaxis take 100 mg Doxycycline daily dirt cheap in local pharmacies. Forget the expensive rubbish your local doctor in your home country tries to prescribe. I personally have stuff which kills the malaria parasite within hours 100%. But it's not approved by the pharmaceutical Mafia.

I only use exposure prophylaxis. That is. If you arrive in your room. close all windows. Use half a can of insectcide. Spray in all corners in a circular movement. Leave the room.Wait for 20 minutes. All dudu should be dead by now...[/QUOTE]Wow thanks for the detailed reply, you're a legend.

So many injections, you African mongers are very dedicated and an inspiration LOL.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;2413007]Vaccination against yellow fever is mandatory only for Kenya when the seven days before entering Kenya have been in a yellow fever country.[/QUOTE]30 euro /12 pieces. 7 days before trip en 7 days after.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2413163]Wow thanks for the detailed reply, you're a legend.

So many injections, you African mongers are very dedicated and an inspiration LOL.[/QUOTE]I spend on average 8 months a year in Africa.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2413216]I spend on average 8 months a year in Africa.[/QUOTE]Could you give me your top countries In Africa With The Most Beautiful Women and with the most unattractive women. I was looking at photos and videos wsj, youtube etc and it seems to me there are large differences by countries.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2413318]Could you give me your top countries In Africa With The Most Beautiful Women and with the most unattractive women. I was looking at photos and videos wsj, youtube etc and it seems to me there are large differences by countries.[/QUOTE]I don't know your taste. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But in Kenya you can find any body type or skin color.

Neddy.

Was at black diamond weds and Friday night live band on weds good crowd. Lot of good looking women after 2 am on both nights it seems the price the girls are willing to go with drops I started to ask girls if they want to go with me for 3 k maybe ask 9 girls only one said it was to low. I was suprise how FAST a lot of girls said yes I was thinking maybe by 2 30 the girls will go with you for maybe 2 k or 2. 5 k. Now most of the girls at 2 am are not 9 or 10 but still some a good looking in my eyes. Early in the evening some of the hot girls wanted 5 k or 6 k wouldn't go lower and course they know their worth and I'm sure guys will pay that or higher I'm sure some hot looking women show up at 1 am and are out the door by 2 am for 6 k or higher ever time they come.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2413318]Could you give me your top countries In Africa With The Most Beautiful Women and with the most unattractive women. I was looking at photos and videos wsj, youtube etc and it seems to me there are large differences by countries.[/QUOTE]Hard to say being such a hugely diverse continent but IMO East Africans and especially Kenyans because in that country you have a great melting pot of types from the Nilotic, Cushitic, Bantu groups. You can find anything that you wish for plus numerous crosses with Europeans, Indians and Arabs. I also love Madagascar where women are even more exotic being there is Indonesian and Polynesian I mixed with African in varying degrees or pure along with Chinese and European. Stunning beauties are everywhere there and sex costs less than a hamburger. Then there are the uglies. Places where women look awful, starting with the Congo. South African blacks are also pretty bad, their bodies get misshapen faster than Italians, though the white Africans are very good and there are tons of mixes with an entire 'coloured' sub-nation that embraces every possible look, including Malay! Hutu women in Burundi and Rwanda are also non-lookers but the Tutsi are stunning and cunning. Ethiopians can be gorgeous but make faithless companions or wives. Somalis are stunning but deadly. This is the most diverse continent on earth in looks. It's impossible to say which is best in honesty.

[QUOTE=Peterg123;2414991]Hard to say being such a hugely diverse continent but IMO East Africans and especially Kenyans because in that country you have a great melting pot of types from the Nilotic, Cushitic, Bantu groups. You can find anything that you wish for plus numerous crosses with Europeans, Indians and Arabs. I also love Madagascar where women are even more exotic being there is Indonesian and Polynesian I mixed with African in varying degrees or pure along with Chinese and European. Stunning beauties are everywhere there and sex costs less than a hamburger. Then there are the uglies. Places where women look awful, starting with the Congo. South African blacks are also pretty bad, their bodies get misshapen faster than Italians, though the white Africans are very good and there are tons of mixes with an entire 'coloured' sub-nation that embraces every possible look, including Malay! Hutu women in Burundi and Rwanda are also non-lookers but the Tutsi are stunning and cunning. Ethiopians can be gorgeous but make faithless companions or wives. Somalis are stunning but deadly. This is the most diverse continent on earth in looks. It's impossible to say which is best in honesty.[/QUOTE]Thanks for you input. What I read on this board is that in sub-Saharan countries sex should cost between $10-$15 in us dollars. If it's more you are overpaying as a Mzungu. Tell me where what countries do you pay less then a price of a hamburger? Could you list more countries where the Malay looking ladies are?

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2413318]Could you give me your top countries In Africa With The Most Beautiful Women and with the most unattractive women. I was looking at photos and videos wsj, youtube etc and it seems to me there are large differences by countries.[/QUOTE]Ethiopian woman have a unique look You can tell she's from Ethiopia.

Also, the Tutsi of Rwanda have a unique look. You just know she's Tutsi. Tutsi and Ethiopian features are similar and many but not all men prefer this look.

Madagascar are a petite negro-mongoloid. Exotic!

I believe that the answer to your questions is: "Find out yourself. ".

Moreover, it doesn't work out that any country has more beautiful women than any other. Like in any country, most are ugly, many are mundane and a few are good looking. Extreme beauty is rare and fleeting but in every country.

In general, I found South African women truck driver big. Tanzanians had enormous butt. Somalian and Kenyans are blue black with strong cheek bones. West Africans can be very round fat. The best looking African woman I ever met was Liberian. But, I never met another Liberian in her class. Some proclaim the French African use makeup better and cook better. That's a damn false observation. Some can and do and some can't and don't in all countries.

I don't deal with pros in Africa. The one thing they all have in common: They are ultimately untrustworthy.

Hi all,

First ever post just before my trip to Africa and want to say a big thank you to Neddy, Mombie, NakedGunz, EastAfricaMan, and TripleDarkness among others for your posts. Neddy, in particular, for providing not only information but spreading uplifting energy for our African adventures. Great fun to read your posts. Thought about writing a memoir?

My first Africa trip is imminent. I chose Nairobi and from these threads know that Nairobi prices are 1 k-3 k and will stick within those boundaries to make sure I'm doing my part to preserve the market.

I have some questions. Any advice would be appreciated.

1 If I stay in an Airbnb with a gate and guard am I going to have trouble getting girls past security each evening? How to solve this?

2 Is taking a short video or photos of the girls going to cause problems later? I'm concerned girls could then play up and have an excuse demand more payment or go to police etc. Thoughts?

3 Regarding daygame on the streets. How does Nairobi compare with Mombasa. I love Neddy's description of picking up a girls in Mombasa ("Here you say Jambo on a street and 20 minutes later you shag. ") and his description of spending time in the German Bakery in Mombasa, spotting girls. Can you find similar places to the German bakery in Nairobi and if so, where?

4 Are there any areas not safe during the day for walking around on my own in Nairobi? I want to avoid just walking into some dangerous neighbourhood without realizing.

5 Similarly, regarding accommodation. Are there any areas to avoid in Nairobi? I'm concerned I choose a decent apartment, only to discover it is in a dodgy area.

6 Finally, drink spiking. Does this happen? Not really thinking of hitting the clubs (daygame and online) but if I do I need to watch out in the clubs?

Cheers,

SayJambo.

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2416176]Hi all,First ever post just before my trip to Africa and want to say a big thank you to Neddy, Mombie, NakedGunz, EastAfricaMan, and TripleDarkness among others for your posts. Neddy, in particular, for providing not only information but spreading uplifting energy for our African adventures. Great fun to read your posts. Thought about writing a memoir?My first Africa trip is imminent. I chose Nairobi and from these threads know that Nairobi prices are 1 k-3 k and will stick within those boundaries to make sure I'm doing my part to preserve the market.I have some questions. Any advice would be appreciated.1 If I stay in an Airbnb with a gate and guard am I going to have trouble getting girls past security each evening? How to solve this?2 Is taking a short video or photos of the girls going to cause problems later? I'm concerned girls could then play up and have an excuse demand more payment or go to police etc. Thoughts?3 Regarding daygame on the streets. How does Nairobi compare with Mombasa. I love Neddy's description of picking up a girls in Mombasa ("Here you say Jambo on a street and 20 minutes later you shag. ") and his description of spending time in the German Bakery in Mombasa, spotting girls. Can you find similar places to the German bakery in Nairobi and if so, where?4 Are there any areas not safe during the day for walking around on my own in Nairobi?.[/QUOTE]Your welcome! First trip, first post, ah the bird is getting pushed out of the nest, sigh. Well if you read my posts (and this knowledge had sunk in) you would know that your going to get major push back in Nairobi with a 1 K offering. Depending on your taste in women that is. Even Neddy said he stays away from Nai due to the pussy pay. After all, I'm assuming your mzungu, and all of them are rich, everybody knows that. If the tits and ass are big enough you will give in, just know this. Nuff said about money. Don't go to Eastlands, even with an invitation. Westlands will look dirty and ghetto compared to a Western country, but you will be amazed how Westlands is actually fairly clean compared to Eastlands. The drink thing is overblown IMO, because its never happened to me. I do a good enough job of getting drunk and passing out. Never been robbed in Kenya. Get permission before any video or pics is all. Daytime is really not much of an issue walking anywhere, also my opinion. Keyans believe in street and mob justice, so if anybody fucks with you, more than likely you will get a mass of bodies to help. I was just told of a robber that got the shit beat out of him, and stripped naked, boy they love to tear some clothes off!

I had all these concerns my first time, and after maybe 15-20 trips I realize they were nothing, but I also stay in my lane. I generally don't go to these countries trying to be a cheap charlie. I get good clean rooms, not a jail cell / hotel room. I give hot women a bit more money and they treat me good. I go to clubs, drink, talk shit, dance, fuck, make breakfast for me and the chic, she goes home happy. Repeat the next day. The point is I'm being myself, and having fun. Just do that and you will be fine wherever you go. I only got into trouble when I started having feelings. Don't do that!

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2416176]Hi all,

First ever post just before my trip to Africa and want to say a big thank you to Neddy, Mombie, NakedGunz, EastAfricaMan, and TripleDarkness among others for your posts. Neddy, in particular, for providing not only information but spreading uplifting energy for our African adventures. Great fun to read your posts. Thought about writing a memoir?

My first Africa trip is imminent. I chose Nairobi and from these threads know that Nairobi prices are 1 k-3 k and will stick within those boundaries to make sure I'm doing my part to preserve the market.

I have some questions. Any advice would be appreciated.

1 If I stay in an Airbnb with a gate and guard am I going to have trouble getting girls past security each evening? How to solve this?

2 Is taking a short video or photos of the girls going to cause problems later? I'm concerned girls could then play up and have an excuse demand more payment or go to police etc. Thoughts?

3 Regarding daygame on the streets. How does Nairobi compare with Mombasa. I love Neddy's description of picking up a girls in Mombasa ("Here you say Jambo on a street and 20 minutes later you shag. ") and his description of spending time in the German Bakery in Mombasa, spotting girls. Can you find similar places to the German bakery in Nairobi and if so, where?

4 Are there any areas not safe during the day for walking around on my own in Nairobi? I want to avoid just walking into some dangerous neighbourhood without realizing.

5 Similarly, regarding accommodation. Are there any areas to avoid in Nairobi? I'm concerned I choose a decent apartment, only to discover it is in a dodgy area.

6 Finally, drink spiking. Does this happen? Not really thinking of hitting the clubs (daygame and online) but if I do I need to watch out in the clubs?

Cheers,

SayJambo.[/QUOTE]1. AirBNB is ok. The guard will smile when you enter with a chic. Tip him like 500 to ensure he stops the girl if she tries to take off with your belongings. LOL. Advantage of a hotel the chica has to register with her ID. They keep the ID at the reception. They phone you to ok her release.

2. mixed bag. Ask. If she's ok to take pics usually no problem. Some chics like to model. Avoid hard core pics though. Move everything in the cloud.

3. Daygame in Nairobi. Shopping Malls Gyms etc. They are everywhere. Bus Stops. Just say Jambo.

4. Daytime generally safe except slums to walk.

5. Stay in Westlands or Karen you can't go wrong.

6. Drink spiking definitely does happen. Take your Tusker to the loo. Never leave your drink unattended.

Prices in Nairobi are more in the 3000 to 5000 ksh range. 1000ST in Mombasa.

Enjoy.

Sir Neddy.

Rather echoing below but.

1. Guards are usually okay. Buy them a soda, snacks etc now and again slip them small change, 99% you will be good.

2 can be risky, I take pics but cut the girls face or head out, hide the pics.

3 Day game in Nbi is tougher than Msa. A lot of Nbi people are working and don't have time like they do in Msa. Still Kenyans are very approachable so its not like it is risky in any way.

4 and 5 daytime your good anywhere but why go to the slums anyways. The only place I avoid is Eastleigh. After 8 pm use taxi door to door unless your bar hopping say in westlands or town. Street kids will approach you but they are usually okay, just give them your 5/10/20 bob coin.

6 in my 17 years of going to and living in Kenya I've never known anyone getting spiked but it does happen obviously.

Spent one night at Savora Stenly in the BCD. Rate is 145 $ for single occupancy and 185 for double occupancy. If you book single and you get a visitor there's a 50 $ joiner fee. Not exactly girl-friendly. This was walk-in. If you book and get the lower rate for double occupancy online it may still be ok.

Moved today to Maison Royale. They wanted 80 $ for single and 90 for double occupancy. They accepted 80 for double occupancy without much of a fight. Again, I'm sure better rates for double are to be had online but I needed to burn cash. Maison Royale have in-room safes which is not always the case with 3-star hotels in Africa.

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2416176]My first Africa trip is imminent. I chose Nairobi and ...[/QUOTE]If possible change your travel schedule and go to Mombasa (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). Especially for an Africa newbie it is much more easy to monger in Mombasa than in Nairobi.

Nairobi is a moloch and has almost no mongering scene and infrastructure specialized on Muzungus. Based on the impression I got on your post I really doubt that you will get happy in Nairobi at all.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2416294]Your welcome! First trip, first post, ah the bird is getting pushed out of the nest, sigh. Well if you read my posts (and this knowledge had sunk in) you would know that your going to get major push back in Nairobi with a 1 K offering. Depending on your taste in women that is. Even Neddy said he stays away from Nai due to the pussy pay. After all, I'm assuming your mzungu, and all of them are rich, everybody knows that. If the tits and ass are big enough you will give in, just know this. Nuff said about money. Don't go to Eastlands, even with an invitation. Westlands will look dirty and ghetto compared to a Western country, but you will be amazed how Westlands is actually fairly clean compared to Eastlands. The drink thing is overblown IMO, because its never happened to me. I do a good enough job of getting drunk and passing out. Never been robbed in Kenya. Get permission before any video or pics is all. Daytime is really not much of an issue walking anywhere, also my opinion. Keyans believe in street and mob justice, so if anybody fucks with you, more than likely you will get a mass of bodies to help. I was just told of a robber that got the shit beat out of him, and stripped naked, boy they love to tear some clothes off!

I had all these concerns my first time, and after maybe 15-20 trips I realize they were nothing, but I also stay in my lane. I generally don't go to these countries trying to be a cheap charlie. I get good clean rooms, not a jail cell / hotel room. I give hot women a bit more money and they treat me good. I go to clubs, drink, talk shit, dance, fuck, make breakfast for me and the chic, she goes home happy. Repeat the next day. The point is I'm being myself, and having fun. Just do that and you will be fine wherever you go. I only got into trouble when I started having feelings. Don't do that![/QUOTE]Thank you very much NakedGunz. Appreciate all your advice! And cooking breakfast for two is a nice touch, may just do that. Thanks for drawing my awareness to my price ideas being on the low side. I might have come across as cheap but definitely not my way.

Will give back in a fortnight with a long report.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2416300]

Prices in Nairobi are more in the 3000 to 5000 ksh range. 1000ST in Mombasa.

[/QUOTE]Thank you Neddy for the tips!

I'd got my Nairobi pricing ideas on the low side having seen one or two posts in the 2 k to 3 k range, and saw somewhere that Nairobi was only 30% premium to Mombasa prices. Now understand 3 k is on the lower end of the range.

I'm glad to be corrected (by Nakedgunz too). I don't want to be a cheap Charlie with girls, just pay fair price or a little over.

BTW, about the type of girl I go for. For me, it's about a girl's ass WAY more than whether she has a model-type face. That's my thing. Pretty-girl-next-door looks is fine as long as she has one of the bigger, shapier asses available out there.

I'll be happy to give back to forum with a long report in a few weeks.

SayJambo.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2416313]

Day game in Nbi is tougher than Msa. A lot of Nbi people are working and don't have time like they do in Msa. [/QUOTE]Thank you Mombie for your tips. Regarding daygame, it makes sense that it will be harder in Nairobi. I'm just going to enjoy it, chat to girls, say Jambo, enjoy the vibe! Some will be up for it. Will report back.

First checked Black Diamond at aroud midnight. No cover charge. Quite a few girls and few men. Quality of girls I'd say a notch below Kampala's Bubbles 'O Leary on a Thursday. There were a few 8's but no 9's. What I didn't like about the place was that it was too dark. The dancing floor was especially dark. Two girls were dancing. In the darkness their faces were black patches.

Stayed a while then decided to check K1. This is not really a disco. It is more like a restaurant with music. It was full. Customers were mostly male and I don't remember seeing any muzungus.

Returned to Black Diamond and took out a girl who quoted 8 k but readily accepted 5 k.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2399353]I looove LUOs. My number ONE tribe. Trouble free. Hot in Bed. After Kambas. Kissiis. Baluhya. Eventually Massai, Turkana, Samburu. Stay away from Kikuyus. Taitas. Digos.

Neddy.

My first question is always. Which tribe? And another tip. Learn Kiswahili. Like. Sema, pesa ngapi jiggi jiggi? Then the price drops off a cliff... As you're in KK territory... Kenya Kimbo... LOL[/QUOTE]The girl I have been dating for the longest time in Nairobi was half digo and half Baluhya.

What you think about this mix?

[QUOTE=UngernKhan;2416882]The girl I have been dating for the longest time in Nairobi was half digo and half Baluhya.

What you think about this mix?[/QUOTE]Digo from coast. From south coast of Mombasa. I avoid. Too greedy. Baluhya sexy. They are related to Luos. It depends where she was brought up. I had a Turkana-Taita mix from Malindi. Spoiled by overpaying Italians.

Neddy.

Who's house hunting in Entebbe.

[QUOTE=XXL;2416809]First checked Black Diamond at aroud midnight. No cover charge. Quite a few girls and few men. Quality of girls I'd say a notch below Kampala's Bubbles 'O Leary on a Thursday. There were a few 8's but no 9's. What I didn't like about the place was that it was too dark. The dancing floor was especially dark. Two girls were dancing. In the darkness their faces were black patches.

Stayed a while then decided to check K1. This is not really a disco. It is more like a restaurant with music. It was full. Customers were mostly male and I don't remember seeing any muzungus.

Returned to Black Diamond and took out a girl who quoted 8 k but readily accepted 5 k.[/QUOTE]Something is wrong with paying so much money in a country where the GDP per capita in Kenya is around $2400. Paying 5 K ($48) is close to what you pay in Eastern European countries.

Visited the brand new Ignite gym at Westgate shopping mall. My guide was a quite young and attractive girl. At the end of the visit she asked for my Whatsapp and it didn't take long before she was messaging me. Wonderful I thought, instead of bombarding me with promotional material for the gym, this SPG uses my contact for hook-ups.

Not so easy though. She played hard to get, suggesting she was not that kind of girl la-di-da. Two days later I met her for a spot of dinner at the mall. After the meal she said she needed some Yves Rocher cosmetics. It cost me 3800 ksh. She saw me off without indicating what the shopping had in it for me. Back at the hotel I thought it better to block her.

Otherwise the shopping malls are pretty empty at least in the daytime. I haven't seen many eligible girls apart from shop staff. I haven't come round to check if evening time is any better.

I usually stay in an airbnb in the town centre or the cbd as they call it. There are always plenty women strolling around working or going between job, shopping etc. Also you have all the shops with staff in them be it the mobile phone shops, clothes shops. Just hit on whoever takes your fancy. This has always worked for me on top of badoo and tinder as I am not into the nightlife much. I think as you go put to westgate or yaya then you have less people going about their business.

[QUOTE=XXL;2417162]Visited the brand new Ignite gym at Westgate shopping mall. My guide was a quite young and attractive girl. At the end of the visit she asked for my Whatsapp and it didn't take long before she was messaging me. Wonderful I thought, instead of bombarding me with promotional material for the gym, this SPG uses my contact for hook-ups.

Not so easy though. She played hard to get, suggesting she was not that kind of girl la-di-da. Two days later I met her for a spot of dinner at the mall. After the meal she said she needed some Yves Rocher cosmetics. It cost me 3800 ksh. She saw me off without indicating what the shopping had in it for me. Back at the hotel I thought it better to block her.

Otherwise the shopping malls are pretty empty at least in the daytime. I haven't seen many eligible girls apart from shop staff. I haven't come round to check if evening time is any better.[/QUOTE]She played your for a fool, next time just take a chick to a coffee shop see where her head is at, no fancy food unless it's street food.

[QUOTE=XXL;2417162]Visited the brand new Ignite gym at Westgate shopping mall. My guide was a quite young and attractive girl. At the end of the visit she asked for my Whatsapp and it didn't take long before she was messaging me. Wonderful I thought, instead of bombarding me with promotional material for the gym, this SPG uses my contact for hook-ups.

Not so easy though. She played hard to get, suggesting she was not that kind of girl la-di-da. Two days later I met her for a spot of dinner at the mall. After the meal she said she needed some Yves Rocher cosmetics. It cost me 3800 ksh. She saw me off without indicating what the shopping had in it for me. Back at the hotel I thought it better to block her.

Otherwise the shopping malls are pretty empty at least in the daytime. I haven't seen many eligible girls apart from shop staff. I haven't come round to check if evening time is any better.[/QUOTE]Daygame at upscale malls are hard, even if she says yes it's going to cost more. Understand that damn near every rich foreigner has already approached her. If I were going to try Daygame at a mall it would be at a kiosk or a store with one or two sales girls and not any male staff on the scene.

If she lets you take her to the mall she works at especially to an upscale restaurant she's playing you, again she can't be seen pulling dates on the job and anywhere in the same mall or even a nearby mall is basically her workspace.

If she's serious she'll meet at an offsite African restaurant or a coffee shop.

Trip.

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2416789]Thank you Neddy for the tips!

I'd got my Nairobi pricing ideas on the low side having seen one or two posts in the 2 k to 3 k range, and saw somewhere that Nairobi was only 30% premium to Mombasa prices. Now understand 3 k is on the lower end of the range.

I'm glad to be corrected (by Nakedgunz too). I don't want to be a cheap Charlie with girls, just pay fair price or a little over.

BTW, about the type of girl I go for. For me, it's about a girl's ass WAY more than whether she has a model-type face. That's my thing. Pretty-girl-next-door looks is fine as long as she has one of the bigger, shapier asses available out there.

I'll be happy to give back to forum with a long report in a few weeks.

SayJambo.[/QUOTE]You sound like me when I made my first trip.

Let me offer a slightly different perspective.

How long is your first trip? If you're staying less than a month I'd spend two weeks or more in Nai or Mba If it's less than that pick one town If It's more than two months you might want to take an excursion to Uganda.

For a first timer and if there's any chance of you wanting to do non mongering activities I'd suggest Nairobi for a first trip. Mombasa is fun but it's somewhat too monger centric for non hardcore mongers.

A hotel is better for a total noob and frankly you'd probably want to spend some coin here. You could go the local hotel route but paying less than 45 bucks a night may get you less quality and while girl friendly you'll be on your own meaning their not going to check the girl and you'll have more of a problem if something goes wrong.

That being said I never stayed at anything but local hotels and airbnb's in Africa and I never had a problem. Actually the Airbnb route is better and cheaper than a local hotel and a lot of savvy African travelers stay at Airbnb's exclusively. A good one can give you local advice. Unless you rent the whole place or have a male host it could be tricky to bring in more than one girl during your stay. I'll just throw this out there I have a couple of Airbnb's in Nairobi myself whole place or private room.

For a first trip I'd actually suggest going to Sabina Joy Applebeez or even the clubs in Westlands in that order. Although Neddy has excellent posts he's an expirenced hardcore monger. The one thing I don't like about Africa is that it's not as "point and click" as it is in other countries. Africa is dirt cheap for pussy you could get straight short time for 5 dollars (without BJ) even in Nairobi, But if you try to start out with "nonpro" it's going to be more expensive in the long run than dealing with a hardcore. Trust me you're not the first mzungu she's met start with the hardcores even if you "overpay" it's cheaper in the long run.

If you're not going to take my advice about the nonpro thing, If you're going to fuck with "regular girls" understand that big asses is the coin of the realm in Africa. There's a reason why the hugest asses don't work in shops that cater to the general public, A large shapely ass is a sign of beauty unless you go a little off the beaten track the bigger the ass the more ran through she'll be whether she's hardcore or not and usually the lazier fuck she'll be I know an IG model here who charges a fortune yet is probably one of the worst fucks. She has a big ass but doesn't know how to use it.

Unless a woman is stunning and or looks "western" a smaller ass will be more appreciative.

I don't know what race you are but throwing this out there for any Black man coming to Africa, You'll need more game than a white man, check for chicks that like you and not so mzungu focused again Nairobi is better than this than Mombasa is for this, You'll get way better service.

Trip.

[QUOTE=PimpGreen;2417336]She played your for a fool, next time just take a chick to a coffee shop see where her head is at, no fancy food unless it's street food.[/QUOTE]Didn't see your post but people assume that because it's not as point and click as Asia is that they are more "innocent" than Asians or South Americans, There's no difference in women anywhere. That being said It's good to see someone post their fails. People think that you can come to Africa and You can fuck the Presidents mother for a dollar.

It will cost more than a dollar.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2416300]1. AirBNB is ok. The guard will smile when you enter with a chic. Tip him like 500 to ensure he stops the girl if she tries to take off with your belongings. LOL. Advantage of a hotel the chica has to register with her ID. They keep the ID at the reception. They phone you to ok her release.

2. mixed bag. Ask. If she's ok to take pics usually no problem. Some chics like to model. Avoid hard core pics though. Move everything in the cloud.

3. Daygame in Nairobi. Shopping Malls Gyms etc. They are everywhere. Bus Stops. Just say Jambo.

4. Daytime generally safe except slums to walk.

5. Stay in Westlands or Karen you can't go wrong.

6. Drink spiking definitely does happen. Take your Tusker to the loo. Never leave your drink unattended.

Prices in Nairobi are more in the 3000 to 5000 ksh range. 1000ST in Mombasa.

Enjoy.

Sir Neddy.[/QUOTE]As a dude who's stayed in several Airbnb's DON"T ASSUME THAT A PLACE IS NICE BASED ON THE PICTURES! I've been outside Airbnb's with my luggage because people didn't even have the room available. DO NOT STAY IN A PLACE WITH NO REVIEWS. Airbnb is an official hustle in Africa now. I'd consider a superhost only and I'd look at [URL]Booking.com[/URL] especially since you can cancel.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2417423]As a dude who's stayed in several Airbnb's DON"T ASSUME THAT A PLACE IS NICE BASED ON THE PICTURES! I've been outside Airbnb's with my luggage because people didn't even have the room available. DO NOT STAY IN A PLACE WITH NO REVIEWS. Airbnb is an official hustle in Africa now. I'd consider a superhost only and I'd look at [URL]Booking.com[/URL] especially since you can cancel.[/QUOTE]AMEN! My first experience with ABB in Nairobi was a joke. The pics looked good, but it really was a dump. It was August winter time, but the place leaked in cold air through every hole, and I might as well have been outside. They only left me a tiny space heater. I did not know how electricity is prepaid in Kenya, and you have to keep an eye on the meter outside for the unit. Of course the fucking power went out on me, and I had to wait hours to get it recharged. Why didn't I know? Because nobody checked on me until the day I left. The so-called manager only came to gauge my level of pissivity to be prepared for my negative review. It was only like 38 bucks a night, but man, now I know why.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2417417]I don't know what race you are but throwing this out there for any Black man coming to Africa, You'll need more game than a white man, check for chicks that like you and not so mzungu focused again Nairobi is better than this than Mombasa is for this, You'll get way better service.Trip.[/QUOTE]OK, so now I can say you don't know what your talking about here. Why are you putting your own race down? The only game any man needs is called shillings in the pocket. My beer bellied homeboy (black) gets women that pays for him. Any foreigner just has to open his mouth to get attention. Agreed the mzugu gets attention. It's like the hot Italian chic, fresh in town, with the cute accent, that everybody wants to fuck. Opposites attract. Nuff said.

Went cruising in the streets around my hotel in Westland with an Ueber taxi. Hardly any girls in the deserted streets. The 3 uglies we talked to didn't have any ID. More precisely, one said she had an ID but after she got into the car the driver specified she meant she had her ID at home, not on her. WTF.

Carrying no ID seems to be typical of SWs here. Something must be going on, like the cops confiscating SWs' IDs.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2416995]Something is wrong with paying so much money in a country where the GDP per capita in Kenya is around $2400. Paying 5 K ($48) is close to what you pay in Eastern European countries.[/QUOTE]Not sure which Eastern European country you have in mind. Things have gotten worse there too. Anyway your point is valid but you should make it clear to the girls, not to us mongers. The other day a taxi drove me to a short time apartment with girls in Westlands. The pimps there wanted no less than 300 USD for taking out a girl back to the hotel long time. None were top models.

What can we expect? From what I've seen so far Black Diamond is the only real game in town. That's 15 to 25 girls at most between 11pm and 2am, in a city of several millions. Abysmal.

My problem as I write is no longer paying adequate prices. My problem is getting a girl I like to come at all to my hotel in the afternoon, instead of never being joinable, standing me up, saying she'll be there in no time and taking 4 hours. Being bored to death in my room until evening when I have no willingness to have sex anymore is my problem here, not paying 100 USD.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2418269]OK, so now I can say you don't know what your talking about here. Why are you putting your own race down? The only game any man needs is called shillings in the pocket. My beer bellied homeboy (black) gets women that pays for him. Any foreigner just has to open his mouth to get attention. Agreed the mzugu gets attention. It's like the hot Italian chic, fresh in town, with the cute accent, that everybody wants to fuck. Opposites attract. Nuff said.[/QUOTE]The last sentence is what I'm talking about. You told me that I shouldn't expect any racial solidarity in Kenya and that's generally correct. Black dudes don't get a discount in Africa, and yes If you walk in the club and some rando white dude walks in the chicks are going to assume that the white guy is the one with the money.

Basically I wrote that for the main Black dudes who will come to Africa which are African-Americans who might not understand.

Everything is business first here and even on the familarity tip a guy like Needy will get a better deal than me because of experience and a better handle on the language.

Trip.

[QUOTE=XXL;2418442]Not sure which Eastern European country you have in mind. Things have gotten worse there too. Anyway your point is valid but you should make it clear to the girls, not to us mongers. The other day a taxi drove me to a short time apartment with girls in Westlands. The pimps there wanted no less than 300 USD for taking out a girl back to the hotel long time. None were top models.

What can we expect? From what I've seen so far Black Diamond is the only real game in town. That's 15 to 25 girls at most between 11pm and 2am, in a city of several millions. Abysmal.

My problem as I write is no longer paying adequate prices. My problem is getting a girl I like to come at all to my hotel in the afternoon, instead of never being joinable, standing me up, saying she'll be there in no time and taking 4 hours. Being bored to death in my room until evening when I have no willingness to have sex anymore is my problem here, not paying 100 USD.[/QUOTE]If you're willing to pick up street skanks why not hit up clubs in the CBD? There's that brothel near Accra Road but having said that they appeal to local men (thick to straight up fat) not to international dude (slim and darkskinned).

Let's face it Westlands is the former segregated area everything is over priced there. On my first trip I used to pick up at Havana Bar, and Brew Bistro, the women were stunning but even I overpaid for what I assumed where "nonpros". If your really hard up go to Westland Massage Parlors and take numbers of girls you like. Yes that will be more expensive but they'll be way less than 300 bucks.

Trip.

I have been walking from La Maison Royale to Westgate Shopping Mall and back for 5 days now. Picking my way around often water-filled potholes and through chaotic traffic is not my idea of fun and the saving on the Ueber fare is puny (150 ksh). What I wanted to put to the test was the reputation of African mongering destinations for allowing the monger to "have his pick of normal women". Let me point out the game, as always, were girls I would try to hook-up with in night-clubs, not the chubby or scrawny girl next door type. On average I crossed paths with 1. 5 interesting girls on each walk. The image I tried to convey was that of a muzungu with plenty of time and cash on his hands. I was not afraid to gaze unashamedly.

Result there was none. To the girls I was invisible. I might as well have been walking the streets in Paris or London.

What about the shopping mall? The shopping malls are deserted here and most people hanging around in them are men (not counting the shop assistants). All large shopping malls have a supermarket attached (Shopprite or Carrefour) and female customers mainly come here to shop at the supermarket. Housewives rolling full shopping baskets back to their cars in the basement are no ideal targets although some turn out to be good-looking. If shopping malls are secret places to hook-up with muzungus in Kenya, that secret is well-kept from Kenyan women.

Stayed at nairobi for few days before my flight to mada. Nothing to share about mongering because I fucked few girls which I know long time for free here. Just want reccomend use indriver taxi app instead uber or bolt its cheaper I pay for 35 kilomitres ride to airport just 1000 shilings when uber was 1500 at same time and bolt 1300. This app is good because you offering your price yourself. Plenty drivers around. At first better check the price with bolt or uber and offer less on indriver. Hope they will come mombasa also soon.

[QUOTE=XXL;2418818]I have been walking from La Maison Royale to Westgate Shopping Mall and back for 5 days now. Picking my way around often water-filled potholes and through chaotic traffic is not my idea of fun and the saving on the Ueber fare is puny (150 ksh). What I wanted to put to the test was the reputation of African mongering destinations for allowing the monger to "have his pick of normal women". Let me point out the game, as always, were girls I would try to hook-up with in night-clubs, not the chubby or scrawny girl next door type. On average I crossed paths with 1. 5 interesting girls on each walk. The image I tried to convey was that of a muzungu with plenty of time and cash on his hands. I was not afraid to gaze unashamedly.

Result there was none. To the girls I was invisible. I might as well have been walking the streets in Paris or London.

What about the shopping mall? The shopping malls are deserted here and most people hanging around in them are men (not counting the shop assistants). All large shopping malls have a supermarket attached (Shopprite or Carrefour) and female customers mainly come here to shop at the supermarket. Housewives rolling full shopping baskets back to their cars in the basement are no ideal targets although some turn out to be good-looking. If shopping malls are secret places to hook-up with muzungus in Kenya, that secret is well-kept from Kenyan women.[/QUOTE]Some of these Senior Mongers need to be paid for their contributions to the tourism industry of East Africa. They make it seem like every white man gets freebies in Africa. That does happen but not with rich chicks in Westlands in the Daytime. In that area you might as well be in Kensington or the left bank.

If you were in the CBD or Nairobi West things would be different.

How long are you in town for?

Trip.

Looking for something more upscale in a safe, secure area to park (at or near a mall). Asian or Indian is ideal, but open to anything fun. Any info you can provide would be great. Also have info to share in return about an UTR find at a normal spa. Cheers.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2418874]Some of these Senior Mongers need to be paid for their contributions to the tourism industry of East Africa. They make it seem like every white man gets freebies in Africa. That does happen but not with rich chicks in Westlands in the Daytime. In that area you might as well be in Kensington or the left bank.

If you were in the CBD or Nairobi West things would be different.

How long are you in town for?

Trip.[/QUOTE]#3264 as I mentioned CBD is where you find the women to try your luck with outside of the nightlife. It has worked for me for over 10 years. Just strike up a convo as they pass by or are waiting for whatever, even the girls working in the shops. I would say my success rate would be 25% and I am not a hard trier, I'm quite a lazy monger.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2418874]Some of these Senior Mongers need to be paid for their contributions to the tourism industry of East Africa. They make it seem like every white man gets freebies in Africa. That does happen but not with rich chicks in Westlands in the Daytime. In that area you might as well be in Kensington or the left bank.

If you were in the CBD or Nairobi West things would be different.

How long are you in town for?

Trip.[/QUOTE]I spent my first night in the CBD before moving to Westlands. Oddly the CBD struck me as more affluent than Westlands with its dirt roads and cluttered market alleys. I am moving today to another Westlands hotel for the next 4 days because the one I am staying in has no more vacancies as of today. Only 4 days left in Nairobi.

[URL]https://www.sde.co.ke/article/2001358401/death-of-clubs-why-restaurants-are-taking-over-nairobi-cbd[/URL]

What a sad picture of Madhouse (New Florida) being drawn down.

I had my high time there it was already 1990 I guess- LOL.

John.

[QUOTE=MattBr;2418883]Looking for something more upscale in a safe, secure area to park (at or near a mall). Asian or Indian is ideal, but open to anything fun. Any info you can provide would be great. Also have info to share in return about an UTR find at a normal spa. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Check diamond plaza 5th floor. Take lift from skywalk side.

PM me for more details please.

Hi all,

Came to Nairobi looking for plentiful supply of jumbo-sized, shapely booty. Tried the escort route back home in Europe but they generally skew towards the slimmer figure. Hard to find the real mega ones there.

Day one: Daygame harder than expected. Central business district has a rush hour, hurried vibe on the streets. Doing a lot of online hunting. Online is a bit of a dance and I was perhaps trying a bit too hard not to be played. Ended up going to bed alone.

Day two: Girl from Tinder comes over to my Airbnb in CBD in the afternoon. Pretty, warm personality, single mother. Ass bursting out of her jeans. Taita tribe. We shower together, I wash her ass with soap and then, still in the shower, crouch down and rim her like my life depended on it. She is leaning over, hand on sink and comes. I think she squirts, but can't be sure as shower is running. After around ten minutes, I impulsively enter her from behind, forgetting to put a condom on. Not a good idea. A moment of panic. But no point worrying about what's done. We towel down and move to bed. All positions. My favorite is her lying on her front on the bed and me pounding from above. Another 30 minutes possibly. But who's clock watching?! Afterwards cheerful girlfriend vibes. Chatting on bed, eating some food I'the bought earlier. She sees I'm worried about entering her without condom. We walk to a pharmacy in Tomboya Street and I get a 5 minute HIV test. She does one too to prove to me she's negative.

Back at the apartment she's down for staying but I want a different girl a day and want to do some online hunting in the evening for following day. She leaves with 4 k, which is the middle of the 3-5 k range I've learned on this site.

Day Three: Tinder reaps another treasure. She's Luhya-Kikuyu mix, 26 year old Marijuana smoking, fun-loving girl. Of course she has a monster booty. It was outstanding. The problem with many big asses in the West is they have no shape, and they droop downwards. Just an ugly mass. In Africa there are a few, not many, that are so huge, but they don't droop, they pert upwards, suspended in the air, refusing to obey the laws of gravity. Newton wouldn't believe it himself.

I offer 4 k for a few hours in afternoon of GFE. Same again, with shower and rimming. Water is pouring into the ass crack as I rim so have to turn the water off. Then to the bed. Her ass is getting pounded like it deserves. Usually BJ is not a priority for me but she wants to suck me. It was outstanding, no teeth. Next, she wants to rim. This girl is game.

Some more pounding. Maybe an hour or more from shower to cum. Take some modelling photos. Want to take some hardcore but first time in Kenya, I better take things slowly. I'm going to be back. No point rushing. Eat something in the living room and then she leaves late afternoon. In all, it wasa maybe two to three hours GFE, about one hour of sex. Paid 4 K.

Day Four: Third girl from Tinder. Hope to keep up this pace of one girl a day. She is early twenties. Luhya. Plain girl next girl door. Cheerful. We meet at Java at Yaya centre. The girl's waist was quite slim but then this enormous ass. It demanded attention. As it was hard to tell with her jeans, at first I thought it might just be a freakish large mass without shape. But back at the apartment as the jeans came off I could see it was curved deliciously. It was worthy of a Michelangelo sculpture. Utter beauty. I pounded and pounded it. And rimmed her furiously. The girls were loving the rimming I discovered. I hope my Hep A vaccine is working A few hours of GFE, an hour or more of sex, chilling. Paid 4 k again. I'm not usually into repeats but I may well repeat with this girl later in the week.

Day Five: More online hunting. Had a girl saying she was coming over at 8 pm but then failed to show up and went silent so went to bed alone. Was wondering to myself whether 4 k wasn't enough motivation for her and that I should pay more for the rest of my trip.

Summary:

Most success with online at 4 k level for a few hours of GFE in the afternoon. Might increase to 5 k to get girls to come quicker. At the end of the day it's only an extra 1 k. (If I'm overpaying / underpaying let me know).

On day game. Haven't really needed this yet as online hunting seems more efficient for a short ten day trip. I can do daytime approaches with reasonable success (I'm mid forties, in good shape, sociable) although it's never easy. I think might do more day game on a second or third trip to Africa as you look for new challenges. But that is for the future. At the moment I have day six to look forward to!

Happy mongering everybody!

SayJambo.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2417417]You sound like me when I made my first trip.

Let me offer a slightly different perspective.

How long is your first trip? If you're staying less than a month I'd spend two weeks or more in Nai or Mba If it's less than that pick one town If It's more than two months you might want to take an excursion to Uganda.

For a first timer and if there's any chance of you wanting to do non mongering activities I'd suggest Nairobi for a first trip. Mombasa is fun but it's somewhat too monger centric for non hardcore mongers.

A hotel is better for a total noob and frankly you'd probably want to spend some coin here. You could go the local hotel route but paying less than 45 bucks a night may get you less quality and while girl friendly you'll be on your own meaning their not going to check the girl and you'll have more of a problem if something goes wrong.

That being said I never stayed at anything but local hotels and airbnb's in Africa and I never had a problem. Actually the Airbnb route is better and cheaper than a local hotel and a lot of savvy African travelers stay at Airbnb's exclusively. A good one can give you local advice. Unless you rent the whole place or have a male host it could be tricky to bring in more than one girl during your stay. I'll just throw this out there I have a couple of Airbnb's in Nairobi myself whole place or private room..[/QUOTE]So much advice. Thank you Trip! Just back on the site after a week away, and wrote a report of how things are going.

[QUOTE=XXL;2418818]I have been walking from La Maison Royale to Westgate Shopping Mall and back for 5 days now. Picking my way around often water-filled potholes and through chaotic traffic is not my idea of fun and the saving on the Ueber fare is puny (150 ksh). What I wanted to put to the test was the reputation of African mongering destinations for allowing the monger to "have his pick of normal women". Let me point out the game, as always, were girls I would try to hook-up with in night-clubs, not the chubby or scrawny girl next door type. On average I crossed paths with 1. 5 interesting girls on each walk. The image I tried to convey was that of a muzungu with plenty of time and cash on his hands. I was not afraid to gaze unashamedly. Result there was none. To the girls I was invisible. I might as well have been walking the streets in Paris or London.What about the shopping mall? The shopping malls are deserted here and most people hanging around in them are men (not counting the shop assistants). All large shopping malls have a supermarket attached (Shopprite or Carrefour) and female customers mainly come here to shop at the supermarket. Housewives rolling full shopping baskets back to their cars in the basement are no ideal targets although some turn out to be good-looking. If shopping malls are secret places to hook-up with muzungus in Kenya, that secret is well-kept from Kenyan women.[/QUOTE]Trying to understand your writing is difficult, but I gather your not having a good time. I could have told you, in fact I think I posted, that the only way to get a moving non-pro is to get her to stop. In CBD, where very hot pussy is literally walks right on by, getting them to stop and engage you is next to impossible. You have to walk beside them, spit your game quickly, and hope for the best. Its actually better when SHE has stopped for some reason (checking the price of bread in the grocery) that's a perfect time.

Dude, have you not used any of the free apps in preparation to your trip? I will be there next week, and my Tinder has literally blown up my phone. I got some very cute 8 and 9's waiting. Afro, Badoo could have saved you all that walking, and pulling street walkers (who really does that anymore, LOL) unless your into that. Take a taxi to Liedos, and look at some black pussy walking around the place. They shag you for 3 k I think still. Have a business card, or just a piece of paper with your Kenya number to give to her, and say something nice to make her want to call. Its better than seeing her just walk on by. I see some of the most beautiful African assess, and some with great tits in CBD because those women walk everywhere. Give it a try. Good luck.

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2419004][URL]https://www.sde.co.ke/article/2001358401/death-of-clubs-why-restaurants-are-taking-over-nairobi-cbd[/URL]What a sad picture of Madhouse (New Florida) being drawn down.I had my high time there it was already 1990 I guess- LOL.John.[/QUOTE]OMG! Tribeka is gone! That was the perfect spot for afternoon Tusker on the balcony watching pussy go by! Nairobi becoming less of a monger destination. Thanks for the article.

After satisfying myself again that the stuff was legal, I told a taxi to bring me somewhere to buy some khat.

After chewing for an hour or so on my own, I found the buzz to be stronger than I remembered it from Ethiopia some 25 years ago. It made me horny as hell so I called the same taxi to take him up on his offer to bring me to a non-public "place with girls".

The place was very close to Mogati street. It was the ground floor of a several-storey building. I was shown 6 girls, only one of them my type, tallish, small tits, broad hips. The tab for long time was 300 USD, payable upfront. By that time I felt as horny as a rat. I wanted this girl badly and I paid up. The girl lived up to sexpectation. She could do long intense BJs to fill in the time between. She told me she was a Kamba from Machakos. According to fellow monger Neddy a good breed for sex.

Fast forward 2 days. I felt like repeating with the same girl. Since she'd told me the pimps only gave her 10 k from my 300 USD I messaged her to come over again for 10 k provided it was ok with her menstruation schedule (menstruation has been the bane of my mongering life). She came alright, only she soon reappeared from the bathroom saying "darling there's some blood". Holy shit. "Okay I said, take 5 k and go away". She said "Please darling I need the money" and started to cry. There I go again I thought. I had just fled Uganda to get away from some blackmail there and no sooner was I in Kenya the same kind of shit was coming at me again. I paid up, what was I to do?

Girls are cheaper in Africa, yeah, sort of, except when they're not.

Hi all,

Came to Nairobi looking for plentiful supply of jumbo-sized, shapely booty. Tried the escort route back home in Europe but they generally skew towards the slimmer figure. Hard to find the real mega ones there.

Day one: Doing a lot of online hunting. Online is a bit of a dance and I was perhaps trying a bit too hard not to be played. Ended up going to bed alone.

Day two: Girl from Tinder comes over to my Airbnb in CBD in the afternoon. Pretty, warm personality, single mother. Ass bursting out of her jeans. Taita tribe. We shower together, I wash her ass with soap and then, still in the shower, crouch down and rim her like my life depended on it. She is leaning over, hand on sink and comes. I think she squirts, but can't be sure as shower is running. After around ten minutes, I impulsively enter her from behind, forgetting to put a condom on. Not a good idea. A moment of panic. But no point worrying about what's done. We towel down and move to bed. All positions. My favorite is her lying on her front on the bed and me pounding from above. Another 30 minutes possibly. But who's clock watching?! Afterwards cheerful girlfriend vibes. Chatting on bed, eating some food I'the bought earlier. She sees I'm worried about entering her without condom. We walk to a pharmacy in Tomboya Street and I get a 5 minute HIV test. She does one too to prove to me she's negative.

Back at the apartment she's down for staying but I want a different girl a day and want to do some online hunting in the evening for following day. She leaves with 4 k, which is the middle of the 3-5 k range I've learned on this site.

Day Three: Tinder reaps another treasure. She's Luhya-Kikuyu mix, 26 year old Marijuana smoking, fun-loving girl. Of course she has a monster booty. It was outstanding. The problem with many big asses in the West is they have no shape, and they droop downwards. Just an ugly mass. In Africa there are a few, not many, that are so huge, but they don't droop, they pert upwards, suspended in the air, refusing to obey the laws of gravity. Newton wouldn't believe it himself.

I offer 4 k for a few hours in afternoon of GFE. Same again, with shower and rimming. Water is pouring into the ass crack as I rim so have to turn the water off. Then to the bed. Her ass is getting pounded like it deserves. Usually BJ is not a priority for me but she wants to suck me. It was outstanding, no teeth. Next, she wants to rim. This girl is game.

Some more pounding. Maybe an hour or more from shower to cum. Take some modelling photos. Want to take some hardcore but first time in Kenya, I better take things slowly. I'm going to be back. No point rushing. Eat something in the living room and then she leaves late afternoon. In all, it wasa maybe two to three hours GFE, about one hour of sex. Paid 4 K.

Day Four: Third girl from Tinder. Hope to keep up this pace of one girl a day. She is early twenties. Luhya. Plain girl next girl door. Cheerful. We meet at Java at Yaya centre. The girl's waist was quite slim but then this enormous ass. It demanded attention. As it was hard to tell with her jeans, at first I thought it might just be a freakish large mass without shape. But back at the apartment as the jeans came off I could see it was curved deliciously. Michelangelo should have sculpted asses like these. A lot of guys might prefer a slimmer butt but this giant ass is my idea of sheer beauty. I pounded and pounded it. And rimmed her furiously. The girls were loving the rimming I discovered. I hope my Hep A vaccine is working A few hours of GFE, an hour or more of sex, chilling. Paid 4 k again. I'm not usually into repeats but I may well repeat with this girl later in the week.

Day Five: More online hunting. Had a girl saying she was coming over at 8 pm but then failed to show up and went silent so went to bed alone. Was wondering to myself whether 4 k wasn't enough motivation for her and that I should pay more for the rest of my trip.

Summary:

Most success with online at 4 k level for a few hours of GFE in the afternoon. Might increase to 5 k to get girls to come quicker. At the end of the day it's only an extra 1 k. (If I'm overpaying / underpaying let me know).

On daygame. Have said Jambo to only one girl so far who was married. I thought I'd be doing more but online hunting has seemed much more efficent for a short ten day trip. I like the challenge of daytime approaches and will do more on this trip but think I might do more day game on a second or third trip to Africa as I look for new challenges. But that is for the future. At the moment I have day six to look forward to!!

Question: Has anybody driven around town late at night with a taxi / uber and looked for SW on the pavements? If anyone can share experience, that would be welcome. How much for the driver, how much for the girl, what time of night, what areas, and will the police stop the car and if so is it trouble?

Happy mongering everybody!

SayJambo.

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2419034]Hi all,

Came to Nairobi looking for plentiful supply of jumbo-sized, shapely booty. Tried the escort route back home in Europe but they generally skew towards the slimmer figure. Hard to find the real mega ones there.

Day one: Daygame harder than expected. Central business district has a rush hour, hurried vibe on the streets. Doing a lot of online hunting. Online is a bit of a dance and I was perhaps trying a bit too hard not to be played. Ended up going to bed alone.

Day two: Girl from Tinder comes over to my Airbnb in CBD in the afternoon. Pretty, warm personality, single mother. Ass bursting out of her jeans. Taita tribe. We shower together, I wash her ass with soap and then, still in the shower, crouch down and rim her like my life depended on it. She is leaning over, hand on sink and comes. I think she squirts, but can't be sure as shower is running. After around ten minutes, I impulsively enter her from behind, forgetting to put a condom on. Not a good idea. A moment of panic. But no point worrying about what's done. We towel down and move to bed. All positions. My favorite is her lying on her front on the bed and me pounding from above. Another 30 minutes possibly. But who's clock watching?! Afterwards cheerful girlfriend vibes. Chatting on bed, eating some food I'the bought earlier. She sees I'm worried about entering her without condom. We walk to a pharmacy in Tomboya Street and I get a 5 minute HIV test. She does one too to prove to me she's negative.

Back at the apartment she's down for staying but I want a different girl a day and want to do some online hunting in the evening for following day. She leaves with 4 k, which is the middle of the 3-5 k range I've learned on this site.

Day Three: Tinder reaps another treasure. She's Luhya-Kikuyu mix, 26 year old Marijuana smoking, fun-loving girl. Of course she has a monster booty. It was outstanding. The problem with many big asses in the West is they have no shape, and they droop downwards. Just an ugly mass. In Africa there are a few, not many, that are so huge, but they don't droop, they pert upwards, suspended in the air, refusing to obey the laws of gravity. Newton wouldn't believe it himself.

I offer 4 k for a few hours in afternoon of GFE. Same again, with shower and rimming. Water is pouring into the ass crack as I rim so have to turn the water off. Then to the bed. Her ass is getting pounded like it deserves. Usually BJ is not a priority for me but she wants to suck me. It was outstanding, no teeth. Next, she wants to rim. This girl is game.

Some more pounding. Maybe an hour or more from shower to cum. Take some modelling photos. Want to take some hardcore but first time in Kenya, I better take things slowly. I'm going to be back. No point rushing. Eat something in the living room and then she leaves late afternoon. In all, it wasa maybe two to three hours GFE, about one hour of sex. Paid 4 K.

Day Four: Third girl from Tinder. Hope to keep up this pace of one girl a day. She is early twenties. Luhya. Plain girl next girl door. Cheerful. We meet at Java at Yaya centre. The girl's waist was quite slim but then this enormous ass. It demanded attention. As it was hard to tell with her jeans, at first I thought it might just be a freakish large mass without shape. But back at the apartment as the jeans came off I could see it was curved deliciously. It was worthy of a Michelangelo sculpture. Utter beauty. I pounded and pounded it. And rimmed her furiously. The girls were loving the rimming I discovered. I hope my Hep A vaccine is working A few hours of GFE, an hour or more of sex, chilling. Paid 4 k again. I'm not usually into repeats but I may well repeat with this girl later in the week.

Day Five: More online hunting. Had a girl saying she was coming over at 8 pm but then failed to show up and went silent so went to bed alone. Was wondering to myself whether 4 k wasn't enough motivation for her and that I should pay more for the rest of my trip.

Summary:

Most success with online at 4 k level for a few hours of GFE in the afternoon. Might increase to 5 k to get girls to come quicker. At the end of the day it's only an extra 1 k. (If I'm overpaying / underpaying let me know).

On day game. Haven't really needed this yet as online hunting seems more efficient for a short ten day trip. I can do daytime approaches with reasonable success (I'm mid forties, in good shape, sociable) although it's never easy. I think might do more day game on a second or third trip to Africa as you look for new challenges. But that is for the future. At the moment I have day six to look forward to!

Happy mongering everybody!

SayJambo.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the club! Seems you're doing good. And off to a flying start. Africa. You can check out but you can never leave.

Greetings from Entebbe.

Sir Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2419117]Welcome to the club! Seems you're doing good. And off to a flying start. Africa. You can check out but you can never leave.

Greetings from Entebbe.

Sir Neddy.[/QUOTE]Jambo Neddy! Thanks for the good wishes. I trust all is going well in Entebbe!

[QUOTE=XXL;2418990]I spent my first night in the CBD before moving to Westlands. Oddly the CBD struck me as more affluent than Westlands with its dirt roads and cluttered market alleys. I am moving today to another Westlands hotel for the next 4 days because the one I am staying in has no more vacancies as of today. Only 4 days left in Nairobi.[/QUOTE]I PM'ed you.

Trip.

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2419034]Hi all,

Came to Nairobi looking for plentiful supply of jumbo-sized, shapely booty. Tried the escort route back home in Europe but they generally skew towards the slimmer figure. Hard to find the real mega ones there.

Day one: Daygame harder than expected. Central business district has a rush hour, hurried vibe on the streets. Doing a lot of online hunting. Online is a bit of a dance and I was perhaps trying a bit too hard not to be played. Ended up going to bed alone.

Day two: Girl from Tinder comes over to my Airbnb in CBD in the afternoon. Pretty, warm personality, single mother. Ass bursting out of her jeans. Taita tribe. We shower together, I wash her ass with soap and then, still in the shower, crouch down and rim her like my life depended on it. She is leaning over, hand on sink and comes. I think she squirts, but can't be sure as shower is running. After around ten minutes, I impulsively enter her from behind, forgetting to put a condom on. Not a good idea. A moment of panic. But no point worrying about what's done. We towel down and move to bed. All positions. My favorite is her lying on her front on the bed and me pounding from above. Another 30 minutes possibly. But who's clock watching?! Afterwards cheerful girlfriend vibes. Chatting on bed, eating some food I'the bought earlier. She sees I'm worried about entering her without condom. We walk to a pharmacy in Tomboya Street and I get a 5 minute HIV test. She does one too to prove to me she's negative.

Back at the apartment she's down for staying but I want a different girl a day and want to do some online hunting in the evening for following day. She leaves with 4 k, which is the middle of the 3-5 k range I've learned on this site.

Day Three: Tinder reaps another treasure. She's Luhya-Kikuyu mix, 26 year old Marijuana smoking, fun-loving girl. Of course she has a monster booty. It was outstanding. The problem with many big asses in the West is they have no shape, and they droop downwards. Just an ugly mass. In Africa there are a few, not many, that are so huge, but they don't droop, they pert upwards, suspended in the air, refusing to obey the laws of gravity. Newton wouldn't believe it himself.

I offer 4 k for a few hours in afternoon of GFE. Same again, with shower and rimming. Water is pouring into the ass crack as I rim so have to turn the water off. Then to the bed. Her ass is getting pounded like it deserves. Usually BJ is not a priority for me but she wants to suck me. It was outstanding, no teeth. Next, she wants to rim. This girl is game.

Some more pounding. Maybe an hour or more from shower to cum. Take some modelling photos. Want to take some hardcore but first time in Kenya, I better take things slowly. I'm going to be back. No point rushing. Eat something in the living room and then she leaves late afternoon. In all, it wasa maybe two to three hours GFE, about one hour of sex. Paid 4 K.

Day Four: Third girl from Tinder. Hope to keep up this pace of one girl a day. She is early twenties. Luhya. Plain girl next girl door. Cheerful. We meet at Java at Yaya centre. The girl's waist was quite slim but then this enormous ass. It demanded attention. As it was hard to tell with her jeans, at first I thought it might just be a freakish large mass without shape. But back at the apartment as the jeans came off I could see it was curved deliciously. It was worthy of a Michelangelo sculpture. Utter beauty. I pounded and pounded it. And rimmed her furiously. The girls were loving the rimming I discovered. I hope my Hep A vaccine is working A few hours of GFE, an hour or more of sex, chilling. Paid 4 k again. I'm not usually into repeats but I may well repeat with this girl later in the week.

Day Five: More online hunting. Had a girl saying she was coming over at 8 pm but then failed to show up and went silent so went to bed alone. Was wondering to myself whether 4 k wasn't enough motivation for her and that I should pay more for the rest of my trip.

Summary:

Most success with online at 4 k level for a few hours of GFE in the afternoon. Might increase to 5 k to get girls to come quicker. At the end of the day it's only an extra 1 k. (If I'm overpaying / underpaying let me know).

On day game. Haven't really needed this yet as online hunting seems more efficient for a short ten day trip. I can do daytime approaches with reasonable success (I'm mid forties, in good shape, sociable) although it's never easy. I think might do more day game on a second or third trip to Africa as you look for new challenges. But that is for the future. At the moment I have day six to look forward to!

Happy mongering everybody!

SayJambo.[/QUOTE]So far so good, I would collect social media to repeat and possibly to run through her friends. You could get away with 2. 5 K short time but if you're rimming getting extended BJ's and barebacking then 4 K is reasonable for Nairobi proper.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MattBr;2418883]Looking for something more upscale in a safe, secure area to park (at or near a mall). Asian or Indian is ideal, but open to anything fun. Any info you can provide would be great. Also have info to share in return about an UTR find at a normal spa. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I literally just got back from Black Diamond and they was a big titty Chinese chick and a slimmer Chinese one. I was shocked. Downside I was quoted 10 K (100 USD) too rich for my blood but if you just had to have non African they were available. They said they were Kenyans and they did have one Kenyan bracelets that everyone wears around here. I'm not going to lie I was tempted.

That being said although a couple guys stared I was the only one to approach, I was quoted 10 K by African girls (but in most cases that was quickly negotiated down to 5 K) I wonder if they're bad fucks or thevies or something. I can't understand why none of the white dudes didn't approach them.

Trip.

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2419108]Hi all,Day Five: More online hunting. Had a girl saying she was coming over at 8 pm but then failed to show up and went silent so went to bed alone. Was wondering to myself whether 4 k wasn't enough motivation for her and that I should pay more for the rest of my trip.Summary:Most success with online at 4 k level for a few hours of GFE in the afternoon. Might increase to 5 k to get girls to come quicker. At the end of the day it's only an extra 1 k. (If I'm overpaying / underpaying let me know).On daygame. Have said Jambo to only one girl so far who was married. I thought I'd be doing more but online hunting has seemed much more efficent for a short ten day trip. I like the challenge of daytime approaches and will do more on this trip but think I might do more day game on a second or third trip to Africa as I look for new challenges. But that is for the future. At the moment I have day six to look forward to!!
Question: Has anybody driven around town late at night with a taxi / uber and looked for SW on the pavements? If anyone can share experience, that would be welcome. How much for the driver, how much for the girl, what time of night, what areas, and will the police stop the car and if so is it trouble?Happy mongering everybody!SayJambo.[/QUOTE]Do not go driving around for street walkers. WTF, have you guys RTFF? Your the 2nd rook to bring that up. No hot piece of ass will be on the street. I can go back at least to the time before Simmers went down and before that to see anybody talk about SW in the Kenya forum. They were around Simmers and Koinange street. They are bottom of the barrel, drug users that will poison you.

The girls coming from Eastlands take matatu from there place to meet you. That takes a long time with Kenya traffic. A good strategy is to meet them halfway in town. Have a drink with her because you don't want to meet a psycho or catfish in your place. If she don't show or don't meet your needs, send her home with a small chump change, go the bar of the night and get something else. Every night of the week has THE SPOT where everybody goes to party. There are usually freelancer there.

Your on a roll with Tinder. Why deviate? So your boy gets a rest for one night. You should be going to the strip clubs to balance out the trip. A healthy mix of club, bar, online and your repeats is the way to do Nairobi. Build up a database for your next visits of the good ones that you find. Nairobi only gets easier. Meet XXL, you guys teaming up would be a power team catching that booty!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2419154]I literally just got back from Black Diamond and they was a big titty Chinese chick and a slimmer Chinese one. I was shocked. Downside I was quoted 10 K (100 USD) too rich for my blood but if you just had to have non African they were available. They said they were Kenyans and they did have one Kenyan bracelets that everyone wears around here. I'm not going to lie I was tempted.

That being said although a couple guys stared I was the only one to approach, I was quoted 10 K by African girls (but in most cases that was quickly negotiated down to 5 K) I wonder if they're bad fucks or thevies or something. I can't understand why none of the white dudes didn't approach them.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Hi Trip, did Diamond improve after I left? No more than 15 girls or so at midnight, poor harvest for a Saturday night. That non black girl was for men who are into big tits. I don't think her lower body was on a par with her melons. Her companion would have been more to my taste but she made the impression of being sad and bad tempered.

SayJambo.

Great report, tinder and badoo are the easiest way to go these days in Nai. Also you can straight off tell them what you want and will pay. If they want that 4 k they will come meet. 4 k is good money for a couple of hours work, I never pay more than that.

[QUOTE=SayJambo10;2419108]Hi all,

Came to Nairobi looking for plentiful supply of jumbo-sized, shapely booty. Tried the escort route back home in Europe but they generally skew towards the slimmer figure. Hard to find the real mega ones there.

SayJambo.[/QUOTE]I have to commend you also on a great report, I'm off to Mombasa in a few days but it looks like I'll have to make a sharp detour to Nairobi.

[QUOTE=Rpdey85;2419008]Check diamond plaza 5th floor. Take lift from skywalk side.

PM me for more details please.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the lead, can't PM as a reg member unfortunately.

[QUOTE=MattBr;2419385]Thanks for the lead, can't PM as a reg member unfortunately.[/QUOTE]If you walk around the center of upscale mongering in Nairobi Near the Havana Bar you'll see MP sings all over the place, There's like 5 or six places on that Block.

Trip.

[QUOTE=XXL;2419247]Hi Trip, did Diamond improve after I left? No more than 15 girls or so at midnight, poor harvest for a Saturday night. That non black girl was for men who are into big tits. I don't think her lower body was on a par with her melons. Her companion would have been more to my taste but she made the impression of being sad and bad tempered.[/QUOTE]I was out of there about 15 minutes after you left. The rain really started pouring That's what I think kept the crowds away.

Trip.

In Nairobi now staying in westlands who would like to meet for a drink.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2419586]In nairobi now staying in westlands who would like to meet for a drink.[/QUOTE]I'm in town.

I'll shoot you a pm.

Stayed a few days at La Maison Royal and at PrideInn Westlands. Both girlfriendly with double occupancy.

La Maison (65 euros) better than PrideInn (75 euros) by far.

La Maison had an elevator and its breakfast was more than ok. It advertised check-out at 1 pm on Agoda but kicked me out by 12.

PrideInn advertised check-out by 11 on Agoda but wanted me out by 10. Many types of stale bread at breakfast, omelette station not manned. Evidence of sloppy management everywhere. No one to help me carry my suitcase when left. Was it because I complained about check-out time?

Both hotels wake you up between 11:30 and 12:30 to clean your room. If you don't let them do it then, too bad. No cleaning today. I'd have thought cleaning staff cost nothing in Africa. For these operators nothing is still too much.

Pain in the neck to post on this forum these days.

[QUOTE=XXL;2420930]Stayed a few days at La Maison Royal and at PrideInn Westlands. Both girlfriendly with double occupancy.La Maison (65 euros) better than PrideInn (75 euros) by far.La Maison had an elevator and its breakfast was more than ok. It advertised check-out at 1 pm on Agoda but kicked me out by 12.PrideInn advertised check-out by 11 on Agoda but wanted me out by 10. Many types of stale bread at breakfast, omelette station not manned. Evidence of sloppy management everywhere. No one to help me carry my suitcase when left. Was it because I complained about check-out time?Both hotels wake you up between 11:30 and 12:30 to clean your room. If you don't let them do it then, too bad. No cleaning today. I'd have thought cleaning staff cost nothing in Africa. For these operators nothing is still too much.Pain in the neck to post on this forum these days.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Pride Inn a few years ago, and I'm pretty sure it's a Muslim hotel. No booze served there back then, but they said they will allow in the future. You would not know that to look at the place, but yeah, it is girl friendly, and amazingly average place. I don't recall a fridge or microwave, both are essentials. I would not stay there again.

Last week I was in Nairobi and it was pretty nice experience. Here is the filed report:

- It was my first time in Africa, so everything was new for me which made it even more memorable experience. I booked a really sexy apartment with a nice decorated living room, a big naughty sofa that I used several times as a playground with the girls, TV, sound system, etc.

- The girls in Kenya were really good. In every meaning. Great bodies, beautiful faces, horny all the time and willing to meet the mzungu. With or without small financial compensation. And there are many girls, I mean there is a huge choice of freelancing girls that will not you leave alone for a long time. I met a photo model, a flight attendant, and office girl and a sexy student. All of them between 21 and 24 years old. Young, fresh, sexy, naughty and really enjoying my company. It was like in heaven. With some of them I spend one night, with others few nights. And during that time my phone was on fire. Tons of other black angels were writing asking me for a meeting. Some of them have never been with a mzungu and wanted to try. It was quite ridiculous how I ignored and did not answer to such an attractive or / and naughty girls but at one point you realise that you can't fuck half of Nairobi for one week.

- There is a lot of places that you can spend your day in Nairobi. Malls, modern coffee shops, tourist attractions, interesting local places. Overall it's not like the boring Kampala where I spend the next week. Nice city, I recommend it.

- I am reading your 65/75/90 USD prices that some of you have paid for a boring hotel rooms and honestly can understand why you dont use modern ways of choosing an acomodation. I paid $35 for my airbnb and it was like the presidential apartment compared to the rooms of the quoted hotels. And in the same time some of you are bargaining with the girls for $5-10 more... Don`t get it.

Overall I had great time in Nairobi and probably will come back one day to combine the usual tourist things that you can do in Kenya plus enjoying this black angels that can make you mad with there skills and attitude. And this time will visit Mombasa also.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2421135]I stayed at Pride Inn a few years ago, and I'm pretty sure it's a Muslim hotel. No booze served there back then, but they said they will allow in the future. You would not know that to look at the place, but yeah, it is girl friendly, and amazingly average place. I don't recall a fridge or microwave, both are essentials. I would not stay there again.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=XXL;2420930]Stayed a few days at La Maison Royal and at PrideInn Westlands. Both girlfriendly with double occupancy.

La Maison (65 euros) better than PrideInn (75 euros) by far.

La Maison had an elevator and its breakfast was more than ok. It advertised check-out at 1 pm on Agoda but kicked me out by 12.

PrideInn advertised check-out by 11 on Agoda but wanted me out by 10. Many types of stale bread at breakfast, omelette station not manned. Evidence of sloppy management everywhere. No one to help me carry my suitcase when left. Was it because I complained about check-out time?

Both hotels wake you up between 11:30 and 12:30 to clean your room. If you don't let them do it then, too bad. No cleaning today. I'd have thought cleaning staff cost nothing in Africa. For these operators nothing is still too much.

Pain in the neck to post on this forum these days.[/QUOTE]Hotels are a waste of times these days, better option now is Airbnb's.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2421283]Last week I was in Nairobi and it was pretty nice experience. Here is the filed report:

....

I met a photo model, a flight attendant, and office girl and a sexy student. All of them between 21 and 24 years old. Young, fresh, sexy, naughty and really enjoying my company.... [/QUOTE]

One photo model, one flight attendant, ... Come on, you are being too modest here. I'm sure in that one week you had time to fuck one member of parliament and a couple of TV hosts as well.

First off since we must compare apple with apple, my recommendation if you have to choose between Kampala and Nairobi as a mongering destination, go for Kampala.

I even find it difficult to say Kampala had by far the better girls on the game since I never saw as little action in an African city as I saw in this ten-day stay in Nairobi. The sample of working girls I got in Nairobi was not sufficient to make a reliable comparison as to girls' quality. Nairobi had no SWs, Kampala had some, not a lot but some. Nairobi had only one club specialising in girls for expats and that was Black Diamond's. Black Diamond had no dance floor to speak of, it had barely a handful of girls at midnight, not a single stunner on most days. On the last Saturday I was at Diamond's tables had been placed on the small dance floor to accommodate a PC birthday party. Not a big loss since the few girls at Diamonds never use the puny dance floor. The rain was blamed on certain days, the early hour on others. Midnight would be too early, two thirty am would be ok. Then what did long time with a girl mean? From 4 am to 10 am? Maybe those girls are clever, they come to the expat club after having had sex with their boyfriends, so that they can doze alongside the drunk and exhausted muzungu until 10 am in his hotel. Just trying to understand what's going on here. I've known since decades that nightlife in Africa always started late but this wasn't late, this was later and later trending to never.

Then you had restaurant-like places like K1 and Brew Bistro where a few girls embedded in a thick crowd of men (locals and expats) were eating, drinking and sometimes making a few dance moves. The male to female ratio was horrendous, was it 6 to 1, or 10 to 1, or more? It was all very well to says those ridiculously outnumbered girls were all to be had by the asking muzungu, sheer physical access to them was not even possible.

I saw no place in Nairobi like Kampala's Capitol Pub where you can find 20+ working girls on most days after midnight with few men around. No place like Kampala's Bubbles where you could see quite a few 8's or 9's shaking their butts on Thursdays or Fridays. From what I saw Nairobi had no mongering nightlife to compare it with Kampala's. I didn't see anything I could call a nightlife for mongers.

Where were the bubble asses, where the curvy gazelles? Come on guys, tell me, I am not trying to score points against anyone, but there must be reasons to travel to such a place and endure the boredom and abysmal infrastructure beyond just getting laid with any odd average girl for cheap. Getting a girl all night for 5 or 10 dollars? I'm not interested, SHOW ME THE GIRL. Very often we are not talking about the same thing when discussing prices. We are, in fact, talking at cross purposes. I don't imply that my tastes are superior, just that getting laid per se is not what I'm after. I need some quality with respect to my figure specs and with respect to what I can have elsewhere eg Thailand or Germany. SHOW ME THE GIRL. I am not rich but but I'm prepared to pay 500 USD a night for a porn star even in Africa. No interest whatsoever in paying 5 dollars or 10 dollars a night for a "nice girl".

This is not to say Kampala struck me as a monger's dream come true, far from it, it was anticlimatic like all African venues these days. But Nairobi was much worse.

Have I lost my grip on mongering? Getting too old and that kind of things, . Yeah, maybe. Maybe I am just a cranky old man longing for the good old days.

Pattaya going down alright, yeah, going down but not going down anywhere so quickly and with such a bang as these African venues if you ask me.

[QUOTE=XXL;2421355]One photo model, one flight attendant, ... Come on, you are being too modest here. I'm sure in that one week you had time to fuck one member of parliament and a couple of TV hosts as well.

First off since we must compare apple with apple, my recommendation if you have to choose between Kampala and Nairobi as a mongering destination, go for Kampala.

I even find it difficult to say Kampala had by far the better girls on the game since I never saw as little action in an African city as I saw in this ten-day stay in Nairobi. The sample of working girls I got in Nairobi was not sufficient to make a reliable comparison as to girls' quality. Nairobi had no SWs, Kampala had some, not a lot but some. Nairobi had only one club specialising in girls for expats and that was Black Diamond's. Black Diamond had no dance floor to speak of, it had barely a handful of girls at midnight, not a single stunner on most days. On the last Saturday I was at Diamond's tables had been placed on the small dance floor to accommodate a PC birthday party. Not a big loss since the few girls at Diamonds never use the puny dance floor. The rain was blamed on certain days, the early hour on others. Midnight would be too early, two thirty am would be ok. Then what did long time with a girl mean? From 4 am to 10 am? Maybe those girls are clever, they come to the expat club after having had sex with their boyfriends, so that they can doze alongside the drunk and exhausted muzungu until 10 am in his hotel. Just trying to understand what's going on here. I've known since decades that nightlife in Africa always started late but this wasn't late, this was later and later trending to never.

Then you had restaurant-like places like K1 and Brew Bistro where a few girls embedded in a thick crowd of men (locals and expats) were eating, drinking and sometimes making a few dance moves. The male to female ratio was horrendous, was it 6 to 1, or 10 to 1, or more? It was all very well to says those ridiculously outnumbered girls were all to be had by the asking muzungu, sheer physical access to them was not even possible.

I saw no place in Nairobi like Kampala's Capitol Pub where you can find 20+ working girls on most days after midnight with few men around. No place like Kampala's Bubbles where you could see quite a few 8's or 9's shaking their butts on Thursdays or Fridays. From what I saw Nairobi had no mongering nightlife to compare it with Kampala's. I didn't see anything I could call a nightlife for mongers.

Where were the bubble asses, where the curvy gazelles? Come on guys, tell me, I am not trying to score points against anyone, but there must be reasons to travel to such a place and endure the boredom and abysmal infrastructure beyond just getting laid with any odd average girl for cheap. Getting a girl all night for 5 or 10 dollars? I'm not interested, SHOW ME THE GIRL. Very often we are not talking about the same thing when discussing prices. We are, in fact, talking at cross purposes. I don't imply that my tastes are superior, just that getting laid per se is not what I'm after. I need some quality with respect to my figure specs and with respect to what I can have elsewhere eg Thailand or Germany. SHOW ME THE GIRL. I am not rich but but I'm prepared to pay 500 USD a night for a porn star even in Africa. No interest whatsoever in paying 5 dollars or 10 dollars a night for a "nice girl".

This is not to say Kampala struck me as a monger's dream come true, far from it, it was anticlimatic like all African venues these days. But Nairobi was much worse.

Have I lost my grip on mongering? Getting too old and that kind of things, . Yeah, maybe. Maybe I am just a cranky old man longing for the good old days.

Pattaya going down alright, yeah, going down but not going down anywhere so quickly and with such a bang as these African venues if you ask me.[/QUOTE]Times are over. Florida 2 k, Simmers closed down. Internet has been a big game changer. Chicas hang out at Tinder Badoo Tagged. Why? No need to hang out late night. Consider transport costs rising. The chic has to consider going home empty handed. Its business. Expenses for chics like transport drinks bites into budget. Plus changing markets. Joints closing down everywhere. Razed to the ground. I am in Entebbe now. Expats told me 5 years ago the joints were bustling. Now? All left a couple of expired hookers in 4 turkeys. Saturday dead as a dodo. You have to adjust. Chicas are everywhere. But nightlife is going down everywhere. That's a fact. Florida Madhouse. Tembo. Tempos passados. RIP.

Sir Neddy.

[QUOTE=XXL;2421355]One photo model, one flight attendant, ... Come on, you are being too modest here. I'm sure in that one week you had time to fuck one member of parliament and a couple of TV hosts as well.[/QUOTE]OMG XXL! Wow, I am so, so sorry your not having (or didn't have) a good time, I truly am, particularly for a seasoned monger as your posts reflect. As Neddy has stated, things are changing. I'm in town, I have not been here for two years, and change is in the air. They even changed the 1000 Kenya shilling note. The money I brought here from previous trips is no good anymore.

Can I share my observations, your posts are painful to read, and your taking frustrations out on a bro that had a good time. I can see your mistakes a mile away. Perhaps your an older gent kinda stuck in your ways from your youth?

1st. Nobody sells pussy from the street except crackheads, even in this third world country. We are in the internet age. Tinder, Badoo, Blender, Afro, and on and on, have hundreds of women on the sites selling their souls. In particular these Kenyan women are getting professional grade posed photos with excellent make-up, lighting, clothing, to get themselves in the best possible position to attract attention. Love or money, whichever approaches first will get them in your bed. I am going to post about my first night later, but my phone is literally on fire from only Tinder gold and Blender with over 200 contacts from women. I am weeding out the fatties, oldies, uglies, etc. A Tinder profile with few words, attractive woman with sexy pic, that is only a few kilometers away is the keeper. Reach out, ask her what she really wants, and work out the price and logistics. Logistics is a whole different animal to overcome here to get the chic in your bed from wherever she is. You don't know the town, so that is a handicap. This is not Pattaya where the action is centralized. This is not Germany, where the the FKK has the pussy on a platter for you.

2nd. As Neddy has stated, and John has posted, that the clubs are closing for one reason or another. CBD is gone. Even the popular spots for Kenyans and non-pros are going away. There was a shooting in the very popular be Club, and the place is closed. An MP shot the DJ. He survived, but the MP got NO charges! I read someplace they they are trying to clean up the image. Maybe to improve business, who knows. The real pussy is in the private homes on the down low. Places we won't know about. You paid 300 bucks (Dubai price where you can get a stunner!) in Kenya!

3rd. You got to be in shape to knock them down. Dress nice, don't make the chic look like a complete WG when she is with you, make them not be embarrassed to fuck you. Its a small town even though it does not seem so. Word spreads. You don't know the town, and that's a handicap. Nairobi is the big city, if you want it easy, go to Mombasa. Even Nairobi people talk shit about their lazy Mombasa countrymen. You can easier cheaper shags there. People in Nai hustle, and won't sit still for bullshit.

4th. I think I just replied to you to take a taxi to Liedos to fuck strippers for 3 k. I certainly plan on doing just that, but you complain that no such places exists. Maybe I reached out to you too late, and sorry you did not get my post in time. All those places are tucked away in the River Road. Area. As a vet monger did you not RTFF? Does a vet also need to be spoon fed information?

5th. The problem I think is you. You act like because your mzungu, the women are supposed to fall to their knee and worship you. You don't seem to have a feel for the pulse of Kenya despite having been to Uganda. I would not say its an apples to apples comparison, because the Kenya shilling is much stronger than the Uganda shilling. Uganda women are coming across the border in search of work as house help in Nairobi, and royally pissing off the Kenyans. I just came from a date with a stunner. Easily a 10 inside and out. I did not fuck her the first night, because she is a hustler that worked about 18 hours doing makeup for other women, but took the time to see me. I will be fucking her hard before I go. My attitude is that as an older man, I enjoyed the company of a fine ass women that's 30 years my junior that wants to be with me. That won't happen in the US for my old ass.

I can go on much longer, but my first trip was a disaster too in 2005, and I did not come back for 7 years. I did, however, come back, and learned how to work the system in my favor. I suggest you RTFF, and come back again to see what works for you, if you desire black pussy, because I did have that bubble butt you crave just last night hours after my arrival on Fri. My buddy arrives Thur. And the orgy will go down!

Good luck in your travels here next time X, and don't give up.

It surfaced that Black Diamond's management had been starting to require from girls that they should henceforth buy 2 drinks and no longer come and sit for free. According to some girls that was why girls were now skipping the place.

If you consider girls have been what has attracted customers this seems like a dumb policy. But there's another way to look at it, namely that the management could be doing this on purpose because they want to transition from a nightspot to a normal venue like a restaurant.

[QUOTE=XXL;2421462]It surfaced that Black Diamond's management had been starting to require from girls that they should henceforth buy 2 drinks and no longer come and sit for free. According to some girls that was why girls were now skipping the place.

If you consider girls have been what has attracted customers this seems like a dumb policy. But there's another way to look at it, namely that the management could be doing this on purpose because they want to transition from a nightspot to a normal venue like a restaurant.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct. They realize they make more money by converting to restaurants. The last surviving classic old style Discotheques are now on coast. Casuarina. Florida. Casablanca. In Mombasa. In Kampala Capital Pub. Bubbles. Rock Garden. In Kampala night live still bustling. Prices for drinks half of that in Nairobi. NBO is getting expensive. Loads of new taxes. Uhuru needs to pay for his infrastructure projects. Half of the revenue which disappears in somebody's pocket. In Uganda they start jailing ministers for corruption. Go figure.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=XXL;2421355]One photo model, one flight attendant, ... Come on, you are being too modest here. I'm sure in that one week you had time to fuck one member of parliament and a couple of TV hosts as well.

First off since we must compare apple with apple, my recommendation if you have to choose between Kampala and Nairobi as a mongering destination, go for Kampala.

I even find it difficult to say Kampala had by far the better girls on the game since I never saw as little action in an African city as I saw in this ten-day stay in Nairobi. The sample of working girls I got in Nairobi was not sufficient to make a reliable comparison as to girls' quality. Nairobi had no SWs, Kampala had some, not a lot but some. Nairobi had only one club specialising in girls for expats and that was Black Diamond's. Black Diamond had no dance floor to speak of, it had barely a handful of girls at midnight, not a single stunner on most days. On the last Saturday I was at Diamond's tables had been placed on the small dance floor to accommodate a PC birthday party. Not a big loss since the few girls at Diamonds never use the puny dance floor. The rain was blamed on certain days, the early hour on others. Midnight would be too early, two thirty am would be ok. Then what did long time with a girl mean? From 4 am to 10 am? Maybe those girls are clever, they come to the expat club after having had sex with their boyfriends, so that they can doze alongside the drunk and exhausted muzungu until 10 am in his hotel. Just trying to understand what's going on here. I've known since decades that nightlife in Africa always started late but this wasn't late, this was later and later trending to never.

Then you had restaurant-like places like K1 and Brew Bistro where a few girls embedded in a thick crowd of men (locals and expats) were eating, drinking and sometimes making a few dance moves. The male to female ratio was horrendous, was it 6 to 1, or 10 to 1, or more? It was all very well to says those ridiculously outnumbered girls were all to be had by the asking muzungu, sheer physical access to them was not even possible.

I saw no place in Nairobi like Kampala's Capitol Pub where you can find 20+ working girls on most days after midnight with few men around. No place like Kampala's Bubbles where you could see quite a few 8's or 9's shaking their butts on Thursdays or Fridays. From what I saw Nairobi had no mongering nightlife to compare it with Kampala's. I didn't see anything I could call a nightlife for mongers.

Where were the bubble asses, where the curvy gazelles? Come on guys, tell me, I am not trying to score points against anyone, but there must be reasons to travel to such a place and endure the boredom and abysmal infrastructure beyond just getting laid with any odd average girl for cheap. Getting a girl all night for 5 or 10 dollars? I'm not interested, SHOW ME THE GIRL. Very often we are not talking about the same thing when discussing prices. We are, in fact, talking at cross purposes. I don't imply that my tastes are superior, just that getting laid per se is not what I'm after. I need some quality with respect to my figure specs and with respect to what I can have elsewhere eg Thailand or Germany. SHOW ME THE GIRL. I am not rich but but I'm prepared to pay 500 USD a night for a porn star even in Africa. No interest whatsoever in paying 5 dollars or 10 dollars a night for a "nice girl".

This is not to say Kampala struck me as a monger's dream come true, far from it, it was anticlimatic like all African venues these days. But Nairobi was much worse.

Have I lost my grip on mongering? Getting too old and that kind of things, . Yeah, maybe. Maybe I am just a cranky old man longing for the good old days.

Pattaya going down alright, yeah, going down but not going down anywhere so quickly and with such a bang as these African venues if you ask me.[/QUOTE]It depends and what type of Monger you are.

I'm a pussyhound if you're a 6 in looks and body I'll fuck. You saw me yourself going Gaga over that fat Chinese girl.

Brew Bistro had very cute girls expensive but cute. It doesn't matter how many men are there there's only a few willing to spend 40,50 or 500 for a knockout. I'm a foreigner too and I wouldn't pay more than 40.

Sabina Joy had plenty of girls with bubble asses. We didn't go to the strip clubs or brothels.

Maybe Mada would be more your speed.

Don't take this the wrong way but frankly the days of the mzungu gods are over there's too many broke Europe incels in Kenya now.

For me Nairobi is just my speed I don't desire the economy being so fucked up that TV anchors are desperate to fuck me.

Now you could say that Thailand mange's to have a even better economy yet you can be treated like a king over there.

I've described Africa as being a red pill dating place and that's what it is. There's no trafficking no one is being forced. The reason people talk about how freaky and enthusiastic African girls are is because at the very least the African girl you fuck doesn't mind fucking you. You can't guarantee that this doesn't happen anywhere else.

Additionally don't be too hard on the poster this was his first trip. I felt the same way when I came here the first time.

Trip.

[QUOTE=XXL;2421462]It surfaced that Black Diamond's management had been starting to require from girls that they should henceforth buy 2 drinks and no longer come and sit for free. According to some girls that was why girls were now skipping the place.

If you consider girls have been what has attracted customers this seems like a dumb policy. But there's another way to look at it, namely that the management could be doing this on purpose because they want to transition from a nightspot to a normal venue like a restaurant.[/QUOTE]Havana Bar is a "regular" bar restaurant yet you can pull there. I don't want to talk down my own people but if business is going down (mainly through the internet) instead of cutting prices or adding incintives they'll raise prices to make up the difference.

They're counting on old fogeys & NGO workers who can't be seen to have Tinder on their phones.

Trip.

[QUOTE=XXL;2421355]One photo model, one flight attendant, ... Come on, you are being too modest here. I'm sure in that one week you had time to fuck one member of parliament and a couple of TV hosts as well.

First off since we must compare apple with apple, my recommendation if you have to choose between Kampala and Nairobi as a mongering destination, go for Kampala.

I even find it difficult to say Kampala had by far the better girls on the game since I never saw as little action in an African city as I saw in this ten-day stay in Nairobi. The sample of working girls I got in Nairobi was not sufficient to make a reliable comparison as to girls' quality. Nairobi had no SWs, Kampala had some, not a lot but some. Nairobi had only one club specialising in girls for expats and that was Black Diamond's. Black Diamond had no dance floor to speak of, it had barely a handful of girls at midnight, not a single stunner on most days. On the last Saturday I was at Diamond's tables had been placed on the small dance floor to accommodate a PC birthday party. Not a big loss since the few girls at Diamonds never use the puny dance floor
[/QUOTE]Well reading some of your posts, you guys are from the quite old generation. Going to working girl clubs, looking for a worn out pussies and trying to pay as low as possible. Streetwalkers. WTF?! No, not my kind of thing.

Imagine that they are other ways. Imagine that you are not 50+ cheap Charlie who don't know how to speak with the women. Then you can contact with good looking girls that have a real job or a student, not the professional working girl at the night club or a streetwalker. Then you can charm them a little bit, gain their trust and attention. And then have a real good time with these diamonds. But it's require to know how to play the game, the modern game. Not the cheap Charlie game from the 90's. If you want to meet 21-25 year old, then you can not live in the past. And can not expect the whole experience to costs you $25. The water buffalo is the option then.

Few words about Kampala and Nairobi. Again, you are talking about bars with working girls and streetwalkers. I don't know about this. I am speaking about freelancers. About an office girl or a flight attendant or a model that is willing to have some additional fun. Not the garbage of Africa. Good lucking fresh girls that also have their own standards, that can choose with whom to spend her time. In Nairobi you can find a lot from these kind of girls.

Yes, they are different type of people that are looking different type of experience. The streetwalkers and the desperate club working girls that you talk about, that's not my type of thing. So for anyone that is reading our little dispute and is wondering what will be in Africa. If you want to spend some quality time with a quality girls drinking and visiting quality places, then forget about the $20-25. Prepare two. Three times more. If you are on a budget, then the $25 will do the work. But don't expect much.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2421586]Well reading some of your posts, you guys are from the quite old generation. Going to working girl clubs, looking for a worn out pussies and trying to pay as low as possible. Streetwalkers. WTF?! No, not my kind of thing.

Imagine that they are other ways. Imagine that you are not 50+ cheap Charlie who don't know how to speak with the women. Then you can contact with good looking girls that have a real job or a student, not the professional working girl at the night club or a streetwalker. Then you can charm them a little bit, gain their trust and attention. And then have a real good time with these diamonds. But it's require to know how to play the game, the modern game. Not the cheap Charlie game from the 90's. If you want to meet 21-25 year old, then you can not live in the past. And can not expect the whole experience to costs you $25. The water buffalo is the option then.

Few words about Kampala and Nairobi. Again, you are talking about bars with working girls and streetwalkers. I don't know about this. I am speaking about freelancers. About an office girl or a flight attendant or a model that is willing to have some additional fun. Not the garbage of Africa. Good lucking fresh girls that also have their own standards, that can choose with whom to spend her time. In Nairobi you can find a lot from these kind of girls.

Yes, they are different type of people that are looking different type of experience. The streetwalkers and the desperate club working girls that you talk about, that's not my type of thing. So for anyone that is reading our little dispute and is wondering what will be in Africa. If you want to spend some quality time with a quality girls drinking and visiting quality places, then forget about the $20-25. Prepare two. Three times more. If you are on a budget, then the $25 will do the work. But don't expect much.[/QUOTE]Can you bribe a flight attendant to fuck you in the "third world" absolutely. Understand the the Nigerian film producer is not getting metoo'ed, there was a big story about professors in Africa giving A's for Anal. That Doctor you fucked ain't the first person that she's sold it to.

For a short stay it doesn't really matter but if you're coming for 20 years or doing multiple month stays then yes some self improvement and some PUA game could help pull the office worker who's fucking her boss just to keep her job.

There's no right answer most of this mongering shit is just female validation. The 80 year cheap Charlie incel goes BJ clubs to get hit on by street walkers and pretend PUA gets an Armani suit flies halfway around the world to fuck a weather girl while giving her half her salary.

The main difference between Africa and anywhere else is that Thai bargirl has to make her quota. If you're in a brothel in Nairobi and you haven't showered in three days you're going to be passed over or pay way more.

Trip.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2421459]OMG XXL! Wow, I am so, so sorry your not having (or didn't have) a good time, I truly am, particularly for a seasoned monger as your posts reflect. As Neddy has stated, things are changing. I'm in town, I have not been here for two years, and change is in the air. They even changed the 1000 Kenya shilling note. The money I brought here from previous trips is no good anymore.

Can I share my observations, your posts are painful to read, and your taking frustrations out on a bro that had a good time. I can see your mistakes a mile away. Perhaps your an older gent kinda stuck in your ways from your youth?

1st. Nobody sells pussy from the street except crackheads, even in this third world country. We are in the internet age. Tinder, Badoo, Blender, Afro, and on and on, have hundreds of women on the sites selling their souls. In particular these Kenyan women are getting professional grade posed photos with excellent make-up, lighting, clothing, to get themselves in the best possible position to attract attention. Love or money, whichever approaches first will get them in your bed. I am going to post about my first night later, but my phone is literally on fire from only Tinder gold and Blender with over 200 contacts from women. I am weeding out the fatties, oldies, uglies, etc. A Tinder profile with few words, attractive woman with sexy pic, that is only a few kilometers away is the keeper. Reach out, ask her what she really wants, and work out the price and logistics. Logistics is a whole different animal to overcome here to get the chic in your bed from wherever she is. You don't know the town, so that is a handicap. This is not Pattaya where the action is centralized. This is not Germany, where the the FKK has the pussy on a platter for you.

2nd. As Neddy has stated, and John has posted, that the clubs are closing for one reason or another. CBD is gone. Even the popular spots for Kenyans and non-pros are going away. There was a shooting in the very popular be Club, and the place is closed. An MP shot the DJ. He survived, but the MP got NO charges! I read someplace they they are trying to clean up the image. Maybe to improve business, who knows. The real pussy is in the private homes on the down low. Places we won't know about. You paid 300 bucks (Dubai price where you can get a stunner!) in Kenya!

3rd. You got to be in shape to knock them down. Dress nice, don't make the chic look like a complete WG when she is with you, make them not be embarrassed to fuck you. Its a small town even though it does not seem so. Word spreads. You don't know the town, and that's a handicap. Nairobi is the big city, if you want it easy, go to Mombasa. Even Nairobi people talk shit about their lazy Mombasa countrymen. You can easier cheaper shags there. People in Nai hustle, and won't sit still for bullshit.

4th. I think I just replied to you to take a taxi to Liedos to fuck strippers for 3 k. I certainly plan on doing just that, but you complain that no such places exists. Maybe I reached out to you too late, and sorry you did not get my post in time. All those places are tucked away in the River Road. Area. As a vet monger did you not RTFF? Does a vet also need to be spoon fed information?

5th. The problem I think is you. You act like because your mzungu, the women are supposed to fall to their knee and worship you. You don't seem to have a feel for the pulse of Kenya despite having been to Uganda. I would not say its an apples to apples comparison, because the Kenya shilling is much stronger than the Uganda shilling. Uganda women are coming across the border in search of work as house help in Nairobi, and royally pissing off the Kenyans. I just came from a date with a stunner. Easily a 10 inside and out. I did not fuck her the first night, because she is a hustler that worked about 18 hours doing makeup for other women, but took the time to see me. I will be fucking her hard before I go. My attitude is that as an older man, I enjoyed the company of a fine ass women that's 30 years my junior that wants to be with me. That won't happen in the US for my old ass.

I can go on much longer, but my first trip was a disaster too in 2005, and I did not come back for 7 years. I did, however, come back, and learned how to work the system in my favor. I suggest you RTFF, and come back again to see what works for you, if you desire black pussy, because I did have that bubble butt you crave just last night hours after my arrival on Fri. My buddy arrives Thur. And the orgy will go down!

Good luck in your travels here next time X, and don't give up.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have formulate it better. Good you're back in the fold of mama Africa. I thought some or later you get tired of the Phils. Enjoy. As for Internet access. There's still a great divide. While in Kenya almost everybody can afford a smartphone nowadays. There's plenty of chics especially in Uganda Rwanda and Madagascar off the grid. Bad or no education. No money. In Kenya almost everybody is rich and educated enough to operate a smart phone. I am also of the rather old fashioned type. But I am doing ok. I tried the social network route but for me it didn't work out so well because a lot of chic's think there's only overpaying Western dumbasses in the Internet. I still prefer the WYSIWYG route. Guys like XXL have to get away from this cash and carry mentality. You can still pick girls from the nightspots. But I prefer to have all my logistics ( Lodging less than 15$, cheap food options, clubs, gyms and pools and chicas) in walking distance or no more than 2 km away as I am lazy. Perfect places for me logistically are Nosy Be, Kabalagala, Mtwapa, Tulear, Tamatave, Entebbe, Jinja, Gisenyi, Kigali. I don't like big towns in particular like Nairobi. Transport is a major hassle. For the chica and for me.

Sir Neddy.

Interesting mix of dissenting opinions. My biggest complaint about online is photos are often not an accurate representation of what the girl is like in person. With that in mind, do you experts think chatting up girls you find very attractive during the day in a friendly way and perhaps leaving a business card with them would be an effective way to drum up interesting dates? If urban Kenyan culture, is there an understanding that a 'date' would likely result in some sort of mutually beneficial transaction no matter whether the man is white, black tourist, or black local? Do girls who become regulars treat you like a friend after a while if you are nice to them and give better deals? Sorry for the newbie sounding questions but your thoughts and experiences might be interesting to many.

Onojid, how do you source your girls? If online, how early in advance of your arrival do you get started?

Thanks so much guys for your valuable, interesting, and entertaining posts.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2421418]Times are over. Florida 2 k, Simmers closed down. Internet has been a big game changer. Chicas hang out at Tinder Badoo Tagged. Why? No need to hang out late night. Consider transport costs rising. The chic has to consider going home empty handed. Its business. Expenses for chics like transport drinks bites into budget. Plus changing markets. Joints closing down everywhere. Razed to the ground. I am in Entebbe now. Expats told me 5 years ago the joints were bustling. Now? All left a couple of expired hookers in 4 turkeys. Saturday dead as a dodo. You have to adjust. Chicas are everywhere. But nightlife is going down everywhere. That's a fact. Florida Madhouse. Tembo. Tempos passados. RIP.
[/QUOTE]As always, Brother Neddy has spoken the real deal.

Badoo, Tagged, Tinder, hell even AfroIntroductions {better known as 'pay-to-play', LOL} are the only ("safe") games in town, now.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2419047]OMG! Tribeka is gone! That was the perfect spot for afternoon Tusker on the balcony watching pussy go by! Nairobi becoming less of a monger destination.[/QUOTE]Although I never liked Tribeka, it was the go-to place after Simmers was destroyed.

All just proves that CBD mongering is over, as I quote myself:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2682-Nairobi&p=2296419#post2296419[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2402681]Your story sounds interesting but I thought this club is shut down. Google maps stated is closed and also can find some reports on kenyatalk forums people saying its shut down many people get drugged here with mchele before looks like it was completely shit hole place.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=NGong;2402644]I follow message about Kenya and always be surprised with the report some people send.

I know New Stanley and the other upgrade hotels and I know when you invited a nairobi lady to New Stanley or Serena you pay the high price because they also know the hotels.

New Stanley have a very strict security and bringing a lady inside get always attention from the staff special the SW because of the style.

This are story tellers who want to take attention and that is why I only read but this last one is not real.[/QUOTE]Good catch, NGong and Pokeris! Got to call bullshit now on all that person's posts. Doesn't help that he (she?) is a new member.

I remember the shock and heartbreak I felt when I read on Kenya Talk that Batis has been closed, soon before 2019 August 21, proof:

[URL]https://www.kenyatalk.com/index.php?threads/talkers-dingy-club-batis-shut-down-hii-uchumi-haitaki-mchezo.120208/[/URL]

I felt so crushed second only to Simmers' demise. When Batis closed, I knew for certain then that the era of CBD mongering was over.

And I can attest that it was NOT a shithole--it was on par with Simmers, but a notch or two below in rating. (For those old enough to remember what a REAL shithole was, think back to Modern Green.).

Sure, you weren't going to find girls 8, 9's or 10's in terms of looks; but in terms of 'service' and costs, definitely you could get an 8-out-of-10 experience most times. See pics.

Bit a funny note: when I told a former Batis chic that "I could no longer come to Kenya because the place was closed, haha", she said she had gone legit, now working in a shop, because no longer good bsuiness in town.

[QUOTE=TaiwanLaowai;2421754]My biggest complaint about online is photos are often not an accurate representation of what the girl is like in person. and perhaps leaving a business card with them would be an effective way to drum up interesting dates? If urban Kenyan culture, is there an understanding that a 'date' would likely result in some sort of mutually beneficial transaction no matter whether the man is white, black tourist, or black local? Do girls who become regulars treat you like a friend after a while if you are nice to them and give better deals? Sorry for the newbie sounding questions but your thoughts and experiences might be interesting to many. Onojid, how do you source your girls? If online, how early in advance of your arrival do you get started? Thanks so much guys for your valuable, interesting, and entertaining posts.[/QUOTE]Actually, I have only been catfished one time in years of Kenya mongering. I don't know if that happens often in your monger spots. The only way you really see a diff (IMO) is if the girl had money at the time to put an attractive pic up. If she is broke when she shows up, no weave, no makeup, no nice clothes. That's actually in your benefit because price should be lower. You know, I can see that you guys are really seeing the women here as objects, and forgetting how this is a very conservative country. You don't RTFF, don't know women, and really don't know Black women. Got no game. Once with you, they going to be thought of as a hoe, long after your gone. That's what they are asking you to pay for with crazy prices. Of course some don't care if they a pro, but a job is hard to find, and a good rep hard to keep. The word out that she goes with foreigner won't help her position. A business card in passing may help, but don't expect to stop and chat in unless your a hot dude, esp in CBD. I'm Black, and it does not work for me either.

So I arrived Fri. And I have had 3 in 4 days thus far. I could have had number 4 tonight, but I'm feeling stingy, and kinda tire of haggling down from ridiculous pricing, and also want to pace myself. Will get her later because of her big tits. I have proven my point that the way to go with these women is using apps. I have not tried the clubs, bars so far. That will be Fri. Sat. When my friend gets here.

There is a chic with the most beautiful ass on Tinder, and with T Gold you can see who has swiped right on you, and she did. I got her Whatsapp, and put her in my database for arrival. When I got in Fri. , I texted her, and video chat verified her, and she said I'm ready. OH MAN, that chic, who is not Kenyan, has the most beautiful ass I have seen in a long time. There are nice asses running around here, but not all are combined with a tiny waist, which makes any true ass lover weak in the knees. She had all that, and she wore sexy heels which made it even more hot. She also had this face for a 25 yo, so she is the complete package. She has a job, so availability is not abundant. I had two shots for 5 k, and uber which was 500 each way. Just the visual of her doggie style will put a couple more inches on your boy, she really needs to be on a site. Grabbing the phat bunda with your hands while in mish is just mah-ve-lus!

I went on a dinner date with a non-pro Sat. , and she was extremely tired from work, but took the time to see me. I cut her loose, and she came over the next day, and more than made up for Sat. Night with two very good GFE shags. She is into me, and she stayed about 24 hours, and we talked and laughed the entire time. Once I get tired of hunting I will just focus on her. She is traveled, intelligent, and fucking hot with the makeup. She asked me to go to Naivasha to some sort of festival this weekend. She told me you may dump me when you see all the hot women at the festival. Note to mongers in the area, that might be an option.

Number three (raised dress in the pic) lives kinda close, and while using the apps, sites, focus on how far the chics are away from you. They are way more inclined to come if you are close, which makes for easier pay day. I look for hot bodies, within my area, and go from there. They will alays ask for at least 10 k upfront. Just emphasize you have been there before and you know what is fair. Go from there. I have one coming in the morning from Eastlands with huge F bra tits, but she aint pretty. I just want to play with dem tities. The Fri. Chic would not allow pics yet, maybe next time, but I found a pic from 2017 that is pretty close to what I had.

The non-pro explained how taxes are going up for everybody, and they sent in undercover interns to KRA to report back, and they subsequently cleaned it up. I didn't know the street vendors are paying taxes! There are a couple stunners on Tinder, and Blendr, and obviously hoes I want to get, and then just settle in with a non pro, because its always haggling over the raising prices here, which ruins the mood because they try to take you for a fool. My next steps are some of the massage places I used to visit, and Amboseli Lane, Apples, Liedos, and bar negotiations. My data base of women have gained weight, had babies, or whatever else. I don't have time right now, not staying my usual 30 days.

I cancelled my Tinder Gold subscription shortly before coming to Kenya. What's the deal with credit card renewal? Any danger of their pulling the automatic renewal trick to help themselves to your credit card ever after?

Tinder didn't work that well for me in Uganda. Girls either didn't come or played offended when I broached the topic of "transport money".

[QUOTE=XXL;2422254]I cancelled my Tinder Gold subscription shortly before coming to Kenya. What's the deal with credit card renewal? Any danger of their pulling the automatic renewal trick to help themselves to your credit card ever after?
Tinder didn't work that well for me in Uganda. Girls either didn't come or played offended when I broached the topic of "transport money".[/QUOTE]T Gold works for me here, Indonesia and the Phils. It, does not work at all, in the US. As I sit here, I am getting "Likes", 2 and 3 at a time. If your done just cancel, and renew when your ready to play the game again. I assume the Ugandans are broke and can't really afford smartphones. Then in that case, it makes sense you will have more opportunities in the clubs, and the street.

I will retire to the Phils eventually to use that as my base of operations, using that place as a springboard for travels. I don't know X, it seems you have to fine tune your monger game, and be sensitive to what works for you, and your limitations including your looks and your budget, where it works or not, and with whom-or who, whichever is correct. You left kinda pissed, when the point is to leave satisfied. You seemed like you had fun in FKK, but I did not even try that because there were none in Kiel, and think I would have bad service because of some racism. I did not want to leave Germany pissed over pussy, so the play is to not even try. I'm also adjusting my Kenya game, by not coming here as often as I used to, and trying Uganda, and TZ. The guys here have not answered you, but you maybe should have tried Mombasa first.

I mean in the end, in the 3rd world, the chics going to want to have some dignity after fucking a stranger for money. An extra five bucks for transport after your coming all that way to fuck is kinda like fighting the whole process. OK, so if that's what it will take, then get less women, and go to a movie or something. As I said, once I shag enough, I will focus on one to avoid the bullshit of fighting over money and figuring out logistics of getting her in and out. After all, it beats fighting over money to somebody your married to for a lifetime, that only ends up taking your shit after so many years. Just my 02 cent.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2422204]So I arrived Fri. And I have had 3 in 4 days thus far. I could have had number 4 tonight, but I'm feeling stingy, and kinda tire of haggling down from ridiculous pricing, and also want to pace myself. Will get her later because of her big tits. I have proven my point that the way to go with these women is using apps. I have not tried the clubs, bars so far. That will be Fri. Sat. When my friend gets here.

There is a chic with the most beautiful ass on Tinder, and with T Gold you can see who has swiped right on you, and she did. I got her Whatsapp, and put her in my database for arrival. When I got in Fri. , I texted her, and video chat verified her, and she said I'm ready. OH MAN, that chic, who is not Kenyan, has the most beautiful ass I have seen in a long time. There are nice asses running around here, but not all are combined with a tiny waist, which makes any true ass lover weak in the knees. She had all that, and she wore sexy heels which made it even more hot. She also had this face for a 25 yo, so she is the complete package. She has a job, so availability is not abundant. I had two shots for 5 k, and uber which was 500 each way. Just the visual of her doggie style will put a couple more inches on your boy, she really needs to be on a site. Grabbing the phat bunda with your hands while in mish is just mah-ve-lus!

I went on a dinner date with a non-pro Sat. , and she was extremely tired from work, but took the time to see me. I cut her loose, and she came over the next day, and more than made up for Sat. Night with two very good GFE shags. She is into me, and she stayed about 24 hours, and we talked and laughed the entire time. Once I get tired of hunting I will just focus on her. She is traveled, intelligent, and fucking hot with the makeup. She asked me to go to Naivasha to some sort of festival this weekend. She told me you may dump me when you see all the hot women at the festival. Note to mongers in the area, that might be an option.

Number three (raised dress in the pic) lives kinda close, and while using the apps, sites, focus on how far the chics are away from you. They are way more inclined to come if you are close, which makes for easier pay day. I look for hot bodies, within my area, and go from there. They will alays ask for at least 10 k upfront. Just emphasize you have been there before and you know what is fair. Go from there. I have one coming in the morning from Eastlands with huge F bra tits, but she aint pretty. I just want to play with dem tities. The Fri. Chic would not allow pics yet, maybe next time, but I found a pic from 2017 that is pretty close to what I had.

The non-pro explained how taxes are going up for everybody, and they sent in undercover interns to KRA to report back, and they subsequently cleaned it up. I didn't know the street vendors are paying taxes! There are a couple stunners on Tinder, and Blendr, and obviously hoes I want to get, and then just settle in with a non pro, because its always haggling over the raising prices here, which ruins the mood because they try to take you for a fool. My next steps are some of the massage places I used to visit, and Amboseli Lane, Apples, Liedos, and bar negotiations. My data base of women have gained weight, had babies, or whatever else. I don't have time right now, not staying my usual 30 days.[/QUOTE]I can concur with the taxes. Kenyatta got to get that nut for the SGR they are taxing vendors now and the price of food is through the roof.

If you want 9's and 10's a noob is going to be charged 100 and it's hard (but not impossible) to pay less than 40. It is what it is. You could try to get cut rate prices in Navasha or Nakuru but the choice girls go to Nai or MBA to hustle so there's that.

Like you said it's conservative in Africa they could've went the Thai walking street route but they simply don't want to. That's the reason there's no high end point and click brothels out here.

Trip.

[QUOTE=XXL;2422254]I cancelled my Tinder Gold subscription shortly before coming to Kenya. What's the deal with credit card renewal? Any danger of their pulling the automatic renewal trick to help themselves to your credit card ever after?

Tinder didn't work that well for me in Uganda. Girls either didn't come or played offended when I broached the topic of "transport money".[/QUOTE]Couldn't you just cancel the recurring charges on the credit card?

By the way with the Kenyan economy slowing down. With all this debt there's no way they can defend the K shilling. The business papers are saying it's at least 20% overvalued everyone is expecting the exchange to go to at least 106 to the dollar.

Trip.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2422204]So I arrived Fri. And I have had 3 in 4 days thus far. I could have had number 4 tonight, but I'm feeling stingy, and kinda tire of haggling down from ridiculous pricing, and also want to pace myself. Will get her later because of her big tits. I have proven my point that the way to go with these women is using apps. I have not tried the clubs, bars so far. That will be Fri. Sat. When my friend gets here.

There is a chic with the most beautiful ass on Tinder, and with T Gold you can see who has swiped right on you, and she did. I got her Whatsapp, and put her in my database for arrival. When I got in Fri. , I texted her, and video chat verified her, and she said I'm ready. OH MAN, that chic, who is not Kenyan, has the most beautiful ass I have seen in a long time. There are nice asses running around here, but not all are combined with a tiny waist, which makes any true ass lover weak in the knees. She had all that, and she wore sexy heels which made it even more hot. She also had this face for a 25 yo, so she is the complete package. She has a job, so availability is not abundant. I had two shots for 5 k, and uber which was 500 each way. Just the visual of her doggie style will put a couple more inches on your boy, she really needs to be on a site. Grabbing the phat bunda with your hands while in mish is just mah-ve-lus!

I went on a dinner date with a non-pro Sat. , and she was extremely tired from work, but took the time to see me. I cut her loose, and she came over the next day, and more than made up for Sat. Night with two very good GFE shags. She is into me, and she stayed about 24 hours, and we talked and laughed the entire time. Once I get tired of hunting I will just focus on her. She is traveled, intelligent, and fucking hot with the makeup. She asked me to go to Naivasha to some sort of festival this weekend. She told me you may dump me when you see all the hot women at the festival. Note to mongers in the area, that might be an option.

Number three (raised dress in the pic) lives kinda close, and while using the apps, sites, focus on how far the chics are away from you. They are way more inclined to come if you are close, which makes for easier pay day. I look for hot bodies, within my area, and go from there. They will alays ask for at least 10 k upfront. Just emphasize you have been there before and you know what is fair. Go from there. I have one coming in the morning from Eastlands with huge F bra tits, but she aint pretty. I just want to play with dem tities. The Fri. Chic would not allow pics yet, maybe next time, but I found a pic from 2017 that is pretty close to what I had.

The non-pro explained how taxes are going up for everybody, and they sent in undercover interns to KRA to report back, and they subsequently cleaned it up. I didn't know the street vendors are paying taxes! There are a couple stunners on Tinder, and Blendr, and obviously hoes I want to get, and then just settle in with a non pro, because its always haggling over the raising prices here, which ruins the mood because they try to take you for a fool. My next steps are some of the massage places I used to visit, and Amboseli Lane, Apples, Liedos, and bar negotiations. My data base of women have gained weight, had babies, or whatever else. I don't have time right now, not staying my usual 30 days.[/QUOTE]Marvelous bunda! Exactly. Never treat the chica as a hoe! Be a gentleman. She knows. You know. You have to learn to play the game. Some people never get it. Treat her well. Have fun. NBO is getting too expensive for my taste. And all the party venues I liked are gone too. I'd go for smaller towns. Nakuru. Machakos. Kisumu. But. To be quite honest. Go Mombasa. The local economy is in the doldrums since customs clearance of the port was fully computerized and moved to NBO. The last nail in the coffin was the government order that all containers had to be transported on the SGR. 1000s of truckers lost their jobs. Even in Nyali now the poshest area rents are in freefall. You can get a nice 3BR villa now for 50k ksh. As people loose their jobs on an alarming rate. Expect crime to go up too. For me the only places left where I get enough bang for my buck is Mtwapa. Uganda in all other respects beat Kenya now by miles.. Dirt cheap. Loads of hot chicas in the 50 to 100k range. Beer dirt cheap. still enough party venues. Kenya is f...d. Period.

Sir Neddy
Who enjoys Entebbe. At least 50% cheaper than NBO. Steak in CJs here around 10$.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2422396]Couldn't you just cancel the recurring charges on the credit card?

By the way with the Kenyan economy slowing down. With all this debt there's no way they can defend the K shilling. The business papers are saying it's at least 20% overvalued everyone is expecting the exchange to go to at least 106 to the dollar.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Yes. Everybody knows the KSH is overvalued. The rates are rigged by the Kenyan Central Bank to remain in the 100 ksh to the dollar. But its cracking. All subsaharan countries took on loads of debt in USD bonds. If they devalue they might find themselves in the doldrums as they have to pay even more in local currency terms. That's why Uhuru leaves no stone unturned to tax the population to death. While looting and stealing money from public coffers is on an alltime high.

Sir Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2422418]Yes. Everybody knows the KSH is overvalued. The rates are rigged by the Kenyan Central Bank to remain in the 100 ksh to the dollar. But its cracking. All subsaharan countries took on loads of debt in USD bonds. If they devalue they might find themselves in the doldrums as they have to pay even more in local currency terms. That's why Uhuru leaves no stone unturned to tax the population to death. While looting and stealing money from public coffers is on an alltime high.

Sir Neddy.[/QUOTE]Correct this shit can't last unless there's a massive tourist influx I think the mongers coming to Nai in July will be pleasantly surprised. For a minute the shilling was 104 to 1 for a couple of days.

Stand by.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2422410]Marvelous bunda! Exactly. Never treat the chica as a hoe! Be a gentleman. She knows. You know. You have to learn to play the game. Some people never get it. Treat her well. Have fun. NBO is getting too expensive for my taste. And all the party venues I liked are gone too. I'd go for smaller towns. Nakuru. Machakos. Kisumu. But. To be quite honest. Go Mombasa. The local economy is in the doldrums since customs clearance of the port was fully computerized and moved to NBO. The last nail in the coffin was the government order that all containers had to be transported on the SGR. 1000s of truckers lost their jobs. Even in Nyali now the poshest area rents are in freefall. You can get a nice 3BR villa now for 50k ksh. As people loose their jobs on an alarming rate. Expect crime to go up too. For me the only places left where I get enough bang for my buck is Mtwapa. Uganda in all other respects beat Kenya now by miles.. Dirt cheap. Loads of hot chicas in the 50 to 100k range. Beer dirt cheap. still enough party venues. Kenya is f...d. Period.

Sir Neddy
Who enjoys Entebbe. At least 50% cheaper than NBO. Steak in CJs here around 10$.[/QUOTE]You have to be fair prices are lowered based on the amount of Swahili you speak. Prices are cheaper the more experience you have.

Is it possible to get LT for 25 bucks in Nairobi it's difficult but not impossible once you develop the monger eye. People read your posts and think that they can smile at a fashion model and she'll pay him to fuck. Yes if you look like Brad Pitt and you're an NGO worker you're can get the occasional freebie. But if you look like Harvey Weinstein and in town on a 36 hour layover then your experience will be different.

In the sex prisons of America I can easily get ST for 150 in New York City. I doubt if it still exists but there was a club that was called the home of the 40 dollar anal.

But the hoops you'the have to jump to find that place. It would involve finding the social media emailing and crossing your fingers.

In Nairobi it would require developing the monger eye away from the Weinstein on his layover. That comes with time not everyone has time. Harvey has to catch his flight back to his sex prison.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2422440]Correct this shit can't last unless there's a massive tourist influx I think the mongers coming to Nai in July will be pleasantly surprised. For a minute the shilling was 104 to 1 for a couple of days.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Then I hope the trend for the euro will also reverse.

These last two months the rate for the euro just went down.

Like from about 112 for 1 euro to as low as 105 ksh for 1 euro last weekend.

Mind you this is not for the $ but for the euro !

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2422466]Then I hope the trend for the euro will also reverse.

These last two months the rate for the euro just went down.

Like from about 112 for 1 euro to as low as 105 ksh for 1 euro last weekend.

Mind you this is not for the $ but for the euro ![/QUOTE]Here the same. Dollar strong versus Euro. UGX went up too. I used to get 4100 now 3900.

Neddy.

Been in Nairobi for two days and a half now. Session with 3 girls so far; two from online and one from Black Diamond. Paid all 4000 but the two online I did take them to eat and paid Uber for transport.

Two online girls were 21 and 23 respectively. Basically students. The girl from Black Diamond was 24. All had nice asses which is what I look for most here.

Observations so far:

Alot of action online. I get likes from someone very frequently. That's where I put in the most of my time. Used Badoo, Tinder, Blendr and Afrointroductions. Tinder seems to have mostly the type of look I like. Girls are asking for ridiculous prices online and in person. Definitely have to negotiate. One girl online told me that people offer her $500 a night LOL. I asked her why should would even be available if that's the case LOL. These women. From my observation, most shapely women are going to try to extort you. They quote in US dollars and start at $100-200. I tell them I don't have us dollars and I'm not paying close to that. Some will get upset but others will negotiate down. But I have tried to focus on the ones who don't quote crazy prices and really want to meet. I have over 400 request from women since I been here from all those sites. But most I will admit I'm either not attracted to or don't have the body I seek.

I stayed at two different hotels so far. I was supposed to stay at the Woodmere but my flight got delayed so I lost the reservation and they are booked for the time I wanted it. Decided to stay at The Zehneria Portico the first night. It was more than half off so I jumped on it. The front desk said they usually charge 3000 for a guest but I gave him 500 and he didn't charge me. The next hotel I stayed at was the La Maison Royale. The room is bigger and it's cheap slightly. No charge here so far. I was planning on staying on an Airbnb if I decide to continue to stay in Nairobi. Am thinking about Mombasa because these prices girls are contributing are ridiculous LOL. I have been to 3 African countries (Morocco, Egypt, South Africa) and more than 40 combined. If I'm comparing it to South Africa, my favorite in terms of Africa women so far, the prices weren't even close to what was been quoted and there was more abundance of ass in my opinion. But I do like how nice Kenya women have been to me. Very polite and really no rude behavior. We will see what the rest of my time here holds. I will be visiting Uganda and Tanzania in the following weeks to get some comparison. Attached a couple pictures of one of the asses I was able to negotiate with.

Are you saying that you were quoted lower prices in South Africa?

Yes by what I consider curvier women. They werent asking for $100-200 a night. I'm not an overnight guy honestly though. I just noticed I could get better rates if I offered overnight here so far. I like to see how the sex is first before committing to overnight. It was a little easier to do that in South Africa with better looking women. There are pretty women here but they want a premium.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2423921]Are you saying that you were quoted lower prices in South Africa?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Global00;2423914]Been in Nairobi for two days and a half now. Session with 3 girls so far; two from online and one from Black Diamond. Paid all 4000 but the two online I did take them to eat and paid Uber for transport.

Two online girls were 21 and 23 respectively. Basically students. The girl from Black Diamond was 24. All had nice asses which is what I look for most here.

Observations so far:

Alot of action online. I get likes from someone very frequently. That's where I put in the most of my time. Used Badoo, Tinder, Blendr and Afrointroductions. Tinder seems to have mostly the type of look I like. Girls are asking for ridiculous prices online and in person. Definitely have to negotiate. One girl online told me that people offer her $500 a night LOL. I asked her why should would even be available if that's the case LOL. These women. From my observation, most shapely women are going to try to extort you. They quote in US dollars and start at $100-200. I tell them I don't have us dollars and I'm not paying close to that. Some will get upset but others will negotiate down. But I have tried to focus on the ones who don't quote crazy prices and really want to meet. I have over 400 request from women since I been here from all those sites. But most I will admit I'm either not attracted to or don't have the body I seek.

I stayed at two different hotels so far. I was supposed to stay at the Woodmere but my flight got delayed so I lost the reservation and they are booked for the time I wanted it. Decided to stay at The Zehneria Portico the first night. It was more than half off so I jumped on it. The front desk said they usually charge 3000 for a guest but I gave him 500 and he didn't charge me. The next hotel I stayed at was the La Maison Royale. The room is bigger and it's cheap slightly. No charge here so far. I was planning on staying on an Airbnb if I decide to continue to stay in Nairobi. Am thinking about Mombasa because these prices girls are contributing are ridiculous LOL. I have been to 3 African countries (Morocco, Egypt, South Africa) and more than 40 combined. If I'm comparing it to South Africa, my favorite in terms of Africa women so far, the prices weren't even close to what was been quoted and there was more abundance of ass in my opinion. But I do like how nice Kenya women have been to me. Very polite and really no rude behavior. We will see what the rest of my time here holds. I will be visiting Uganda and Tanzania in the following weeks to get some comparison. Attached a couple pictures of one of the asses I was able to negotiate with.[/QUOTE]Don't take bullshit. 99% of kenyan girls are habitual liers. 500 usd?? If she's a certified virgin. hahaha. Otherwise. Wet dream. Its no comparison to Morocco or Egypt where sharmootas ask for 100 usd and up. Give them 4 k. Plenty for overnighter. Take it or leave it. I am not even discussing. If they open their mouth talk BS. I block. Next please. Uganda and TZ half price of Nairobi. For everything. Mombasa pay max 3 k. And for that price they have to jump through a burning loop. There's pussy in abundance.

Sir Neddy.
I had asses like that in MBA for 2k and less i.e. 1k and that's for overnight. 3 shots.

I found Tinder to be the hotspot for finding girls in Nairobi. I got 100's of request and was able to be very selective. I was with a different girl every night and paid no more than 4000. Two girls just told me to give me what I wanted to give because they just wanted to have fun. All I did was send every girl the same thing "Hello, I'm in town for the week and I'm looking for friends with benefits. Are you interested?" No lie, only ,3 girls out of 100's that said they were not interested. Every other girl that answered said yes. Now, granted as I mentioned before, a bunch of hot girls asked for outrageous prices. But even some of them were able to negotiate down to an acceptable price. I only want after big butt curvy girls. I honestly think it's probably cheaper for petite, skinny, spinner type of girls. One of the girls I talked to got so mad at me because she said I didn't want to see her before she didn't have a big ass or titties LOL. I kinda of felt bad but I think if you like that you can get more of bargain if you like that body type.

There is always conversations on this board about pro and non-pro. To the girls I met they didn't seem like pros but who knows. I met up with students, to 3rd grade teachers to attorneys. And I was able to have sex with all of them no problem. It was so easy.

I will say that there is a lot of fake or old pictures online, so you probably should meet them first to make sure they look like you want. Probably the biggest downside of online.

Kenyan girls love to drink. They get sloppy drunk oh my goodness. Another thing that will make it easier for you to sleep with them even though I had to dismiss one girl because she was way too drunk.

Body odor is a thing here. Can't lie. It's in the taxis, Ubers, elevators, stores, and girls LOL. I started making sure they showered thoroughly.

As far as Nairobi goes, I think a week is way too long. I should have went to the coast a few days but I did have a lot of sex so I can complain. I'm in Kampala now and will try to make some post about my experiences there.

Below is a bubble butt squiriting 3rd grade teacher.

[QUOTE=Global00;2423914] Attached a couple pictures of one of the asses I was able to negotiate with.[/QUOTE]Good to see ISG has another big booty loving bro. Those asses are fantastic. I didn't get to date as many women with asses like what you have posted. A few here and there but mostly slim girls. I also didn't use Tinder. I know for next time now.

Looking forward to your report from TZ.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2423921]Are you saying that you were quoted lower prices in South Africa?[/QUOTE]Not surprised. I was quoted lower prices in SA as well. I keep telling people, pound for pound, if you like thick big booty women like the one Mr. Global posted, then SA is your best bet. From what I've experienced, read and seen, seems like the best countries in Africa for big booty women are SA, Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya and Ghana. SA is probably number one. Uganda and Tanzania are probably on par with each other and then Kenya and Ghana. TBH, seems like UG, KE and TZ are quite similar with the women, however, UG and TZ seem to have women with much much heavier bottoms. Kenyan women will skew slightly slimmer.

Again, just my observations.

I'll definitely have to try Kenya again, probably on a double trip with Uganda.

Got this one from Diamond's. Here drinking whisky, chewing leaves, dancing around the room to music from Youtube. Good party & sex girl. Strictly no anal. She wouldn't go for less than 5k. Still, worth every penny.

Very nice! I'm glad you are also on bubble butt round booty duty LOL.

[QUOTE=XXL;2426405]Got this one from Diamond's. Here drinking whisky, chewing leaves, dancing around the room to music from Youtube. Good party & sex girl. Strictly no anal. She wouldn't go for less than 5k. Still, worth every penny.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Global00;2426139]I found Tinder to be the hotspot for finding girls in Nairobi. I got 100's of request and was able to be very selective. I was with a different girl every night and paid no more than 4000. Two girls just told me to give me what I wanted to give because they just wanted to have fun. All I did was send every girl the same thing "Hello, I'm in town for the week and I'm looking for friends with benefits. Are you interested?" No lie, only ,3 girls out of 100's that said they were not interested. Every other girl that answered said yes. Now, granted as I mentioned before, a bunch of hot girls asked for outrageous prices. But even some of them were able to negotiate down to an acceptable price. I only want after big butt curvy girls. I honestly think it's probably cheaper for petite, skinny, spinner type of girls. One of the girls I talked to got so mad at me because she said I didn't want to see her before she didn't have a big ass or titties LOL. I kinda of felt bad but I think if you like that you can get more of bargain if you like that body type.

There is always conversations on this board about pro and non-pro. To the girls I met they didn't seem like pros but who knows. I met up with students, to 3rd grade teachers to attorneys. And I was able to have sex with all of them no problem. It was so easy.

I will say that there is a lot of fake or old pictures online, so you probably should meet them first to make sure they look like you want. Probably the biggest downside of online.

Kenyan girls love to drink. They get sloppy drunk oh my goodness. Another thing that will make it easier for you to sleep with them even though I had to dismiss one girl because she was way too drunk.

Body odor is a thing here. Can't lie. It's in the taxis, Ubers, elevators, stores, and girls LOL. I started making sure they showered thoroughly.

As far as Nairobi goes, I think a week is way too long. I should have went to the coast a few days but I did have a lot of sex so I can complain. I'm in Kampala now and will try to make some post about my experiences there.

Below is a bubble butt squiriting 3rd grade teacher.[/QUOTE]Did you forget the pic on this post?

I guess so. Here they are.

[QUOTE=TrickWilliams;2426517]Did you forget the pic on this post?[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

This is the second part of my Nairobi report from a few weeks back. Been back home a couple weeks and it seems my brain has been rewired, haha, as all the "big" asses here look smaller now. LOL. Already yearning to go back and will do before Summer.

Day Six.

Hanging out in places like Java Coffee, Yaya centre and Junction Mall. So far this week, two or three waitresses and shop girls super friendly, seem interested, but just I'm holding out for a big booty. Approach an amazing bubble butt in CBD at lunchtime but she's married. Happy vibes all the time. Still, malls and cafes need more people to make a better choice. I'm fussy.

Day Seven.

Met a girl on Tagged. Kamba tribe. Hot, dirty, cheating housewife kind of look. Shower first and as she undresses she takes her jeans off slooowly, teasingly half pulling down her jeans, a partial reveal of her incredible ass. She gets naked and I stop her as she is about to enter the shower to just inspect the goods in awe and keep saying the words"Oh. My. " like a broken record player. LOL.

Soon in the shower, it's all hot and soapy. Give her a good rim and then take her on the bed for a pounding. Unlike the previous girls this week, who had firm, solid butt cheeks, this ass is soft as pillow, lovely nice ripple effect as she takes it doggy. She's got a sort of bitchy look, gorgeous full lips. Awesome session, felt even better because had nothing the previous two days.

Days Eight and Nine. Repeat sessions with Kamba girl and Kikuyu girl from earlier in the week. These two were my favorite and I needed them back for a second round. Constantly changing girls is good to stack up numbers and good for the ego (LOL) but sometimes you need the repeats because quality beats quantity sometimes. Haha.

Returned home day nine.

Summary and thoughts:

- Loved the first-time Africa trip. Africa has the sense of adventure, the sense of the road less travelled, because it is not overcommercialised. Will be back soon.

- My girls were all semi pro vibe, two were student age, two were 30 ish single mums. Chilled vibe, GFE. Much, much different to your typical 30 min /60 min escort in any Western city. They're free and working for themselves. If you treat them with respect (and be patient with their lateness LOL), they appreciate that and you can both have a great time!

- I'll start to pick up some local dialect over my next trips. Not because I need to. But it just makes you different from many (probably most?) mzungus and I think the girls can enjoy that. It will definitely help when doing street daygame approaches too.

- I don't touch drugs but I hear a drug addict needs an ever increasing dose to reach the same high. Well, for my ass addiction, it seems I seem to be needing an ever larger ass to get the same high. LOL In Africa, things are going to get crazy big.

- First thoughts on difference between daygame in Europe and in Nairobi. In the West I might spot a beautiful black booty in, say, a supermarket, and feel I must grab the opportunity. If she's on a call I might wait like 15 minutes waiting for a good moment to approach. LOL Meanwhile here in Africa, it's a land of abundance. You can chill out, no sweat. If she's busy on a call, just move on. Plenty more fish in the sea.

- Pricing: Started firm at 4 k but later on chilled out and was giving 5 k. Considering I'the paid over 1000 USD to fly here, I wasn't sure why I was arguing over the last 1 k! Is that ego. Not wanting to be played?!

- Trip was 2000 USD all included. If you divide by my six sessions that is 300 USD per girl. But, it's cool, where else can you get that thickness? And don't forget the GFE.

- I lost three days of action because 1) bad organization on my part 2) I'm fussy and it had to be premier league booty or else nothing. 3) One girl no-showed and I went to bed early.

- Prove they are like the photo. You can ask for recent photos or do a video call. I asked one girl in a video call to turn around. She kindly did and her booty had gone AWOL. I felt bad but had to cancel on her. One time, I was in a rush, and didn't photocheck. A girl turned up at the gate but had lost so much weight and lost her booty. She said it was anxiety attacks caused this. I felt sorry for her and paid her 3 k to go home.

- I wish I'the at least sampled the nightlife a little more and also wish I'the booked more girls to maximise my time there. But as Neddy has said on this site before, you have to take Africa slowly, one bite at a time.

- With all talk of bubble butts, must mention some of the beautiful slim, petite girls. One girl reminded me of singer Lauryn Hill with her sweet, big eyes and petite frame. She's on standby for another trip.

Hi all,

This is the second part of my Nairobi report from a few weeks back. Been back home a couple weeks and it seems my brain has been rewired, haha, as all the "big" asses here look smaller now. LOL. Already yearning to go back and will do before Summer.

Day Six.

Hanging out in places like Java Coffee, Yaya centre and Junction Mall. So far this week, two or three waitresses and shop girls super friendly, seem interested, but just I'm holding out for a big booty. Approach an amazing bubble butt in CBD at lunchtime but she's married. Happy vibes all the time. Still, malls and cafes need more people to make a better choice. I'm fussy.

Day Seven.

Met a girl on Tagged. Kamba tribe. Hot, dirty, cheating housewife kind of look. Shower first and as she undresses she takes her jeans off slooowly, teasingly half pulling down her jeans, a partial reveal of her incredible ass. She gets naked and I stop her as she is about to enter the shower to just inspect the goods in awe and keep saying the words"Oh. My. " like a broken record player. LOL.

Soon in the shower, it's all hot and soapy. Give her a good rim and then take her on the bed for a pounding. Unlike the previous girls this week, who had firm, solid butt cheeks, this ass is soft as pillow, lovely nice ripple effect as she takes it doggy. She's got a sort of bitchy look, gorgeous full lips. Awesome session, felt even better because had nothing the previous two days.

Days Eight and Nine. Repeat sessions with Kamba girl and Kikuyu girl from earlier in the week. These two were my favorite and I needed them back for a second round. Constantly changing girls is good to stack up numbers and good for the ego (LOL) but sometimes you need the repeats because quality beats quantity sometimes. Haha.

Returned home day nine.

Summary and thoughts:

- Loved the first-time Africa trip. Africa has the sense of adventure, the sense of the road less travelled, because it is not overcommercialised. Will be back soon.

- My girls were all semi pro vibe, two were student age, two were 30 ish single mums. Chilled vibe, GFE. Much, much different to your typical 30 min /60 min escort in any Western city. They're free and working for themselves. If you treat them with respect (and be patient with their lateness LOL), they appreciate that and you can both have a great time!

- I'll start to pick up some local dialect over my next trips. Not because I need to. But it just makes you different from many (probably most?) mzungus and I think the girls can enjoy that. It will definitely help when doing street daygame approaches too.

- I don't touch drugs but I hear a drug addict needs an ever increasing dose to reach the same high. Well, for my ass addiction, it seems I seem to be needing an ever larger ass to get the same high. LOL In Africa, things are going to get crazy big.

- First thoughts on difference between daygame in Europe and in Nairobi. In the West I might spot a beautiful black booty in, say, a supermarket, and feel I must grab the opportunity. If she's on a call I might wait like 15 minutes waiting for a good moment to approach. LOL Meanwhile here in Africa, it's a land of abundance. You can chill out, no sweat. If she's busy on a call, just move on. Plenty more fish in the sea.

- Pricing: Started firm at 4 k but later on chilled out and was giving 5 k. Considering I'the paid over 1000 USD to fly here, I wasn't sure why I was arguing over the last 1 k! Is that ego. Not wanting to be played?!

- Trip was 2000 USD all included. If you divide by my six sessions that is 300 USD per girl. But, it's cool, where else can you get that thickness? And don't forget the GFE.

- I lost three days of action because 1) bad organization on my part 2) I'm fussy and it had to be premier league booty or else nothing. 3) One girl no-showed and I went to bed early.

- Prove they are like the photo. You can ask for recent photos or do a video call. I asked one girl in a video call to turn around. She kindly did and her booty had gone AWOL. I felt bad but had to cancel on her. One time, I was in a rush, and didn't photocheck. A girl turned up at the gate but had lost so much weight and lost her booty. She said it was anxiety attacks caused this. I felt sorry for her and paid her 3 k to go home.

- I think if I had prepared more in advance and started mining the apps before I arrived I would have had even more girls ready to go. Nevermind. There is no rush and I will be back. As Neddy has said on this site before, you have to take Africa slowly, one bite at a time.

- With all talk of bubble butts, must mention some of the beautiful slim, petite girls. One girl reminded me of singer Lauryn Hill with her sweet, big eyes and petite frame. She's on standby for another trip.

SayJambo.

Supposed to be going to Thailand on 24th March but considering going to Nairobi instead due to the Cov 19 virus.

Does anyone know if I'd have enough time to get the injections I'd need and if so which ones are they.

Also I'm on self prescribed trt, can you get testosterone out there? Its legal to possess and take in England but I wouldn't want to take any with me without a prescription.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2429675]Supposed to be going to Thailand on 24th March but considering going to Nairobi instead due to the Cov 19 virus.

Does anyone know if I'd have enough time to get the injections I'd need and if so which ones are they.

Also I'm on self prescribed trt, can you get testosterone out there? Its legal to possess and take in England but I wouldn't want to take any with me without a prescription.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You going to Africa. A developing continent. Not to compare with the medical options you have in Thailand.

If you feel sickly or say "concerned" - don't go to any African country to enjoy holidays.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2429675]Supposed to be going to Thailand on 24th March but considering going to Nairobi instead due to the Cov 19 virus.

Does anyone know if I'd have enough time to get the injections I'd need and if so which ones are they.

Also I'm on self prescribed trt, can you get testosterone out there? Its legal to possess and take in England but I wouldn't want to take any with me without a prescription.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Avoiding Thailand now is not justified. Thailand is now on its way to become one of the countries with the least number of people infected.

Kenya pharmacies sell DHEA, Melatonin and all kinds of supplements without prescriptions. I would therefore not be surprised if TRT products were also readily available.

At the airport they will ask for proof of yellow fever vaccination.

[QUOTE=XXL;2429905]Avoiding Thailand now is not justified. Thailand is now on its way to become one of the countries with the least number of people infected.

Kenya pharmacies sell DHEA, Melatonin and all kinds of supplements without prescriptions. I would therefore not be surprised if TRT products were also readily available.

At the airport they will ask for proof of yellow fever vaccination.[/QUOTE]That's brilliant thanks.

[QUOTE=XXL;2429905]At the airport they will ask for proof of yellow fever vaccination.[/QUOTE]Only if entering from a Yellow fever country.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2430158]Only if entering from a Yellow fever country.[/QUOTE]Ok, so Nairobi is different from Entebbe. At Entebbe they insisted on it although I made it clear I'd had visas for Uganda before (proof of yellow fever vaccine was part of the visa requirements). What they were after of course was baksheesh. There used to be a time when the yellow fever vaccine was not known to be for life and expired vaccinations would also be an excuse to extort money.

Greetings gents,

Just joined as a paid subscriber and want to begin with a sincere thank you to ElephantBeer, HumanPerson2, Naked Gunz, Mombie75, Pokeris, and Neddy69. Among others. I've read the past 30 pages of this Kenya forum and have already accumulated invaluable intel.

I plan to spend about 3 months in East Africa--Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and Tanzania are on my list. I won't arrive until later this summer, so in the meantime I've paid for an upgraded membership on AfroIntroductions. Keeps me distracted from the gray walls of the corporate plantation until I finally depart for Africa.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2429831]You going to Africa. A developing continent. Not to compare with the medical options you have in Thailand.If you feel sickly or say "concerned" - don't go to any African country to enjoy holidays.[/QUOTE]I caught something in Nairobi that pretty much ruined the last four days of my trip. I'm susceptible to bronchitis with colds, so pretty sure it was not corona. Head and chest congestion. Still have slight cough. I'm now in Angeles master plumbing tight Filipina tunnels.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2433189]Greetings gents,

Just joined as a paid subscriber and want to begin with a sincere thank you to ElephantBeer, HumanPerson2, Naked Gunz, Mombie75, Pokeris, and Neddy69. Among others. I've read the past 30 pages of this Kenya forum and have already accumulated invaluable intel.

I plan to spend about 3 months in East Africa--Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and Tanzania are on my list. I won't arrive until later this summer, so in the meantime I've paid for an upgraded membership on AfroIntroductions. Keeps me distracted from the gray walls of the corporate plantation until I finally depart for Africa.[/QUOTE]Enjoy, I did many 6 month stints in Kenya in days gone by. Great when we have the winter in UK and I was strolling along Mombasa beaches and getting a massage during the day in the sun. Then on night the hardest part was choosing which one to bang on the long lists you can easily build up.

I have no idea if this is a reasonable question, although I suspect it is not: Is there a reputable tailor in Nairobi where one might have a decent suit made at a reasonable cost, as I have found in Asia?

[QUOTE=BoneRoller;2433806]I have no idea if this is a reasonable question, although I suspect it is not: Is there a reputable tailor in Nairobi where one might have a decent suit made at a reasonable cost, as I have found in Asia?[/QUOTE]I have never noticed this but in Kenya anything is possible. If it is then they must not be very good at it as if you ever see an African in a suit it never fits properly.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2433667]Enjoy, I did many 6 month stints in Kenya in days gone by. Great when we have the winter in UK and I was strolling along Mombasa beaches and getting a massage during the day in the sun. Then on night the hardest part was choosing which one to bang on the long lists you can easily build up.[/QUOTE]Mombie,

Do you suggest Mombasa as a good starting point for a first timer to East Africa?

I'll have at least 3 months, and my plan is to visit Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and Tanzania. But don't know in what order. The East African Visa allows for travel between Kenya, Uganda, and Rwanda, so I'd like to visit those as a block. And then tackle TZ on its own.

I appreciate any suggestions.

[QUOTE=ChocolateHuntr;2434008]Mombie,

Do you suggest Mombasa as a good starting point for a first timer to East Africa?

I'll have at least 3 months, and my plan is to visit Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and Tanzania. But don't know in what order. The East African Visa allows for travel between Kenya, Uganda, and Rwanda, so I'd like to visit those as a block. And then tackle TZ on its own.

I appreciate any suggestions.[/QUOTE]Mombasa is a lot fresher and easier than Nbi. More easily available women too.

Another documentary about "Underage Prostitutes And Drug Users in Kenya".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bycjIz0UkIQ&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

[QUOTE=Global00;2423914]Been in Nairobi for two days and a half now. Session with 3 girls so far; two from online and one from Black Diamond. Paid all 4000 but the two online I did take them to eat and paid Uber for transport.

Two online girls were 21 and 23 respectively. Basically students. The girl from Black Diamond was 24. All had nice asses which is what I look for most here.

Observations so far:

Alot of action online. I get likes from someone very frequently. That's where I put in the most of my time. Used Badoo, Tinder, Blendr and Afrointroductions. Tinder seems to have mostly the type of look I like. Girls are asking for ridiculous prices online and in person. Definitely have to negotiate. One girl online told me that people offer her $500 a night LOL. I asked her why should would even be available if that's the case LOL. These women. From my observation, most shapely women are going to try to extort you. They quote in US dollars and start at $100-200. I tell them I don't have us dollars and I'm not paying close to that. Some will get upset but others will negotiate down. But I have tried to focus on the ones who don't quote crazy prices and really want to meet. I have over 400 request from women since I been here from all those sites. But most I will admit I'm either not attracted to or don't have the body I seek..[/QUOTE]Wow what an absolute stunner, I'm excited to get to Africa to experience ladies like this.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2422204]So I arrived Fri. And I have had 3 in 4 days thus far. I could have had number 4 tonight, but I'm feeling stingy, and kinda tire of haggling down from ridiculous pricing, and also want to pace myself. Will get her later because of her big tits. I have proven my point that the way to go with these women is using apps. I have not tried the clubs, bars so far. That will be Fri. Sat. When my friend gets here.

There is a chic with the most beautiful ass on Tinder, and with T Gold you can see who has swiped right on you, and she did. I got her Whatsapp, and put her in my database for arrival. When I got in Fri. , I texted her, and video chat verified her, and she said I'm ready. OH MAN, that chic, who is not Kenyan, has the most beautiful ass I have seen in a long time. There are nice asses running around here, but not all are combined with a tiny waist, which makes any true ass lover weak in the knees. She had all that, and she wore sexy heels which made it even more hot. She also had this face for a 25 yo, so she is the complete package. She has a job, so availability is not abundant. I had two shots for 5 k, and uber which was 500 each way. Just the visual of her doggie style will put a couple more inches on your boy, she really needs to be on a site. Grabbing the phat bunda with your hands while in mish is just mah-ve-lus!

I went on a dinner date with a non-pro Sat. , and she was extremely tired from work, but took the time to see me. I cut her loose, and she came over the next day, and more than made up for Sat. Night with two very good GFE shags. She is into me, and she stayed about 24 hours, and we talked and laughed the entire time. Once I get tired of hunting I will just focus on her. She is traveled, intelligent, and fucking hot with the makeup. She asked me to go to Naivasha to some sort of festival this weekend. She told me you may dump me when you see all the hot women at the festival. Note to mongers in the area, that might be an option..[/QUOTE]Hi,

Planning to visit once lockdown over can you share her digits to build a Rapport before landing. The bird on attachment.

[QUOTE=GoldInLion;2450902]Hi, Planning to visit once lockdown over can you share her digits to build a Rapport before landing. The bird on attachment.[/QUOTE]Can't find the number, sorry. Afro and Badoo should provide you plenty of curfew bed warmers though. I'm sure their are literally thousands of desperate women with no shillings about now.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2453409]Can't find the number, sorry. Afro and Badoo should provide you plenty of curfew bed warmers though. I'm sure their are literally thousands of desperate women with no shillings about now.[/QUOTE]There are I'm getting calls from girls I haven't seen in months.

Kenya Newbie here.

I am going to be in Kenya in September, October most likely and never went for the black type, and it is about time.

I will be in Nairobi for a few days and head down to Mombasa for two weeks or so. I have sorted out mz trip to Mombasa already, but not yet for my time in Nairobi. I know lots of you guys hook up either online or in Black Diamond. I was wondering if there are any other hard core spots to hunt a black Gazelle. I am really not too much into the online thing, as most women, in my experience, lie about their looks there (and their age of course). How about the Sabina Joy? Too dodgy, dirty?

Cheers.

Kommissar.

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2463873]Kenya Newbie here.

I am going to be in Kenya in September, October most likely and never went for the black type, and it is about time.

I will be in Nairobi for a few days and head down to Mombasa for two weeks or so. I have sorted out mz trip to Mombasa already, but not yet for my time in Nairobi. I know lots of you guys hook up either online or in Black Diamond. I was wondering if there are any other hard core spots to hunt a black Gazelle. I am really not too much into the online thing, as most women, in my experience, lie about their looks there (and their age of course). How about the Sabina Joy? Too dodgy, dirty?

Cheers.

Kommissar.[/QUOTE]Sabina Joy is not the SJ of old. It is now just a run of the mill bar in town. Still has a room / s on site I believe though for short timing. Always a handful of girls in there who seem up for it. Black Diamond still seems the most obvious place to go where you can easily grab something.

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2463873]Kenya Newbie here.

I am going to be in Kenya in September, October most likely and never went for the black type, and it is about time.

I will be in Nairobi for a few days and head down to Mombasa for two weeks or so. I have sorted out mz trip to Mombasa already, but not yet for my time in Nairobi. I know lots of you guys hook up either online or in Black Diamond. I was wondering if there are any other hard core spots to hunt a black Gazelle. I am really not too much into the online thing, as most women, in my experience, lie about their looks there (and their age of course). How about the Sabina Joy? Too dodgy, dirty?

Cheers.

Kommissar.[/QUOTE]Black Diamond is one of many clubs like that around that area any establishment with lone chicas are good.

Sabina Joy is ok for hardcores as well.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2463922]Sabina Joy is not the SJ of old. It is now just a run of the mill bar in town. Still has a room / s on site I believe though for short timing. Always a handful of girls in there who seem up for it. Black Diamond still seems the most obvious place to go where you can easily grab something.[/QUOTE]Friend on mine went there recently and said the prices they ask for in Black Diamond are ridiculously inflated. He said the "real rate" is about 4-5 k for an allnighter and 2-3 k short-term. Would you agree?

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2464145]Friend on mine went there recently and said the prices they ask for in Black Diamond are ridiculously inflated. He said the "real rate" is about 4-5 k for an allnighter and 2-3 k short-term. Would you agree?[/QUOTE]I've never took a girl from SJ but have had short times from BD and always paid 3 k, they ask for 5-10 k but Its 3 k or no deal with me. If she was a 9 or 10 I might go to 4 k but have not so far.

I never ever do all night.

SJ will be cheaper than BD I would think.

International Flights to Kenya are now allowed after August 1st. Strangely the bars are closed until Aug 7th though, though that will likely change to Aug 1st I think in the next few weeks.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2464248]I've never took a girl from SJ but have had short times from BD and always paid 3 k, they ask for 5-10 k but Its 3 k or no deal with me. If she was a 9 or 10 I might go to 4 k but have not so far.

I never ever do all night.[/QUOTE]Why not do an all-nighter?

3 k for short-time. Which is like what. A few hours and 1 pop? Might as well stay in Thailand, haha.

[URL]https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/uhuru-lifts-cessation-order-for-nairobi-mombasa-and-mandera-1445728[/URL]

Roads to Nairobi and Mombasa are now opened. So girls are starting to flow to these cities from their villages, where they have been hiding from virus.

But Kenya itself is still closed, what I have understood. Does this comment in this announcement mean Kenya borders? "he, however, extended the nationwide curfew by a further 30 days. ".

So after one month maybe borders are opening, if no further extension?

Have I understood right or somebody have better information? Mombie75 wrote that in August 1 borders would open?

International airtravel resumes from 1st of August. Travel advisory all land and air borders. That means recommendation. No travel insurance cover. But that applies anyway for 90% of the planet. As for girls flocking to Mombasa now I don't think so. No tourists now and they will not return for a long time. Except some hard core Africa mongers. like me. When the lockdown is Mombasa and Nairobi is lifted everybody will travel to the countryside to their families. At least if you have a shamba you're not starving to death like in the city slums.
Neddy

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2464474]International airtravel resumes from 1st of August. Travel advisory all land and air borders. That means recommendation. No travel insurance cover. But that applies anyway for 90% of the planet. As for girls flocking to Mombasa now I don't think so. No tourists now and they will not return for a long time. Except some hard core Africa mongers. like me. When the lockdown is Mombasa and Nairobi is lifted everybody will travel to the countryside to their families. At least if you have a shamba you're not starving to death like in the city slums.
Neddy[/QUOTE]So Neddy if you go through another airport to your destination that is NOT your home country your travel insurance is not valid?

[QUOTE=Golds;2464483]So Neddy if you go through another airport to your destination that is NOT your home country your travel insurance is not valid?[/QUOTE]If the your ministry of foreign affairs issued a travel warning for your country of destination then that usually invalidates your travel health insurance. Check with your insurer.

Even if TZ for example is open for business that doesn't mean that there isn't a travel warning.

Neddy.

The UK high commissioner and US ambassador have been on twitter the last few days doing little interviews for Kenya tourism offices of some type.

Saying Kenya is opening back up, it is safe to travel with the protocols they have implemented etc. You would imagine if they are doing that then the travel warnings will drop. Though in Gov the left and right arms are never coordinated.

We shall see.

I'm hoping to get out in early Sept.

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2464285]Why not do an all-nighter?

3 k for short-time. Which is like what. A few hours and 1 pop? Might as well stay in Thailand, haha.[/QUOTE]I don't do all night as I hate anyone in my room overnight even less so sharing my bed.

Short time, usually 2 k /$20 in Mombasa, 3 k /$30 in Nairobi, for me is 30-90 mins depending on my mood and time of day, pop as many as I want.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2464494]If the your ministry of foreign affairs issued a travel warning for your country of destination then that usually invalidates your travel health insurance. Check with your insurer.
Going without insurance is a huge risk in my opinion...
Even if TZ for example is open for business that doesn't mean that there isn't a travel warning.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Neddy you are right. Insurer backs no holiday with a negative advice of foreign affairs.

Is there another solution?

[QUOTE=Golds;2464512]Neddy you are right. Insurer backs no holiday with a negative advice of foreign affairs.

Is there another solution?[/QUOTE]I'm from UK and if the FCO here have this warning for your visiting country.

"The Foreign & Commonwealth Office currently advises British nationals against all but essential international travel".

Then insurance is invalid.

I've no idea how European countries or the US do it.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2464532]I'm from UK and if the FCO here have this warning for your visiting country.

"The Foreign & Commonwealth Office currently advises British nationals against all but essential international travel".

Then insurance is invalid.

I've no idea how European countries or the US do it.[/QUOTE]I assume we are talking about travel insurance here, ie an insurance you buy for a particular trip in combination with a plane ticket or a package. I wonder whether government warnings could affect the validity of normal health insurance coverage.

[QUOTE=XXL;2464595]I assume we are talking about travel insurance here, ie an insurance you buy for a particular trip in combination with a plane ticket or a package. I wonder whether government warnings could affect the validity of normal health insurance coverage.[/QUOTE]I buy annual travel insurance. It covers everything needed for foreign trips / holidays, such as valuables, cancelled flights, health etc. It is totally invalid if the country you visit is under the FCO warning unless you are already there when this advice kicks in. If I buy health insurance inside of Kenya then that would stand I assume but can you do that if your a none resident / national?

Separate types of insurance I've no idea.

Mzee Kinyuria, the owner of Sabina Joy has died aged 111. Sabina Joy only close two times in it's history, during the coup of 1982 and the Corona pandemic.

Sabina Joy Club is famously known for some good and immoral reasons. It has come out to be one of the most loved clubs in town for its quick service provision to men undergoing some dry spell diseases.

[URL]https://kenyan-times.com/the-owner-of-sabina-joy-club-mzee-kinyuria-dies-at-the-age-of-111/[/URL]

I believe not many brothel-owners have been honoured by a president for their "outstanding vision and commitment" to provide a comfortable drinking brothel to both men and women....

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2465890]Mzee Kinyuria, the owner of Sabina Joy has died aged 111. Sabina Joy only close two times in it's history, during the coup of 1982 and the Corona pandemic.

Sabina Joy Club is famously known for some good and immoral reasons. It has come out to be one of the most loved clubs in town for its quick service provision to men undergoing some dry spell diseases.

[URL]https://kenyan-times.com/the-owner-of-sabina-joy-club-mzee-kinyuria-dies-at-the-age-of-111/[/URL]

I believe not many brothel-owners have been honoured by a president for their "outstanding vision and commitment" to provide a comfortable drinking brothel to both men and women....[/QUOTE]When there a few years ago. There was no water in the entire establishment and everything smelled of piss.

Despite that had a good time with a keen Kenyan lass on site, in a prison cell like room after paying some money to guy behind a slot window.

Good times.

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2465890]Mzee Kinyuria, the owner of Sabina Joy has died aged 111. Sabina Joy only close two times in it's history, during the coup of 1982 and the Corona pandemic.

Sabina Joy Club is famously known for some good and immoral reasons. It has come out to be one of the most loved clubs in town for its quick service provision to men undergoing some dry spell diseases.

[URL]https://kenyan-times.com/the-owner-of-sabina-joy-club-mzee-kinyuria-dies-at-the-age-of-111/[/URL]

I believe not many brothel-owners have been honoured by a president for their "outstanding vision and commitment" to provide a comfortable drinking brothel to both men and women....[/QUOTE]Hey always a successful concept in Africa. Provide cheap booze. Spend money on a good sound System. Spend next to nothing on furniture. Ie. Plastic chairs. Provide ST rooms in the back. And make sure there's always hot chicas around. You can never go bankrupt. And Sabina Joy is not a brothel. It's a drinking den with female guests. Hahahaha.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2465982]Hey always a successful concept in Africa. Provide cheap booze. Spend money on a good sound System. Spend next to nothing on furniture. Ie. Plastic chairs. Provide ST rooms in the back. And make sure there's always hot chicas around. You can never go bankrupt. And Sabina Joy is not a brothel. It's a drinking den with female guests. Hahahaha.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]Have you been there lately? I have read it has received a major upgrade. Wondering though how many white guys go there though.

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2466000]Have you been there lately? I have read it has received a major upgrade. Wondering though how many white guys go there though.[/QUOTE]I was there about a year ago. It had a make over and from what I seen it is just a normal overloud dark bar now, not like it used to be, it still has on site rooms but I didn't check them out. A handful of women make it known they are up for fun though.

[QUOTE=Kommissar1231;2466000]Have you been there lately? I have read it has received a major upgrade. Wondering though how many white guys go there though.[/QUOTE]White guys? Why would s white guy go there? LOL.

Except me.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2466178]White guys? Why would s white guy go there? LOL.

Except me.[/QUOTE]I'd think only the hardcore mongers would go there. Less white dudes, more fun?

I've RTFF 50 pages back for both Nairobi and Mombasa, Thanks Neddy69, Naked Gunz, triple darkness, Mombie75! I am supposed to arrive next week in Nairobi for a week then Mombasa area for 2 weeks. Just saw Today the president is extending the curfew for another 30 days and now stopping the sale of alcohol. I'm In shape, black, in my 30's and I got decent game. Is this trip still dobable?. I like to do tourist things first, meet cute ladies second. Between Tagged, Badoo, Tinder I have received over 400 likes in the last two weeks and a bunch of WhatsApp numbers so I think I can build a decent pipeline but that 9 pm curfew sucks, no bars, no hotel drinks, no nightlife. I don't mind a few vacation girlfriends but I want to be able to do stuff and not have a hanger on who is bored sitting in the room watching TV. If I cancel I won't be recover this trip for at least a year. For those who have been on the ground since COVID-19 started and some rules relaxed in July; What say you. Go or Stay?

I've RTFF 50 pages back for both Nairobi and Mombasa, Thanks Neddy69, Naked Gunz, triple darkness, Mombie75! I am supposed to arrive next week in Nairobi for a week then Mombasa area for 2 weeks. Just saw Today the president is extending the curfew for another 30 days and now stopping the sale of alcohol. I'm In shape, black, in my 30's and I got decent game. Is this trip still doable? I like to do tourist things first, meet cute ladies second. Between Tagged, Badoo, Tinder I have received over 400 likes in the last two weeks and a bunch of WhatsApp numbers so I think I can build a decent pipeline but that 9 pm curfew sucks, no bars, no hotel drinks, no nightlife. I don't mind a few vacation girlfriends but I want to be able to do stuff and not have a hanger on who is bored sitting in the room watching TV. If I cancel I won't be recover this trip for at least a year. For those who have been on the ground since COVID-19 started and some rules relaxed in July; What say you. Go or Stay?

Well. The party factor goes way down as the joints are not allowed to serve alcohol. But knowing Kenya its nigh impossible to police all the back alley joints. After all. The police has to go to some places to have a few beers too. LOL. If you come for pussy and don't mind the reduced party factor. Go ahead. Otherwise fly into NBO and fly to Dar es Salaam.

Neddy.

Who's in the process of finalizing my travel. Leaning towards TZ as I like to have a few Serengeti baridi in Ambiance and look at some bunda shaking chicas stuck in hot pants dancing to local bongo tunes.

[QUOTE=Matthel32;2470483]I've RTFF 50 pages back for both Nairobi and Mombasa, Thanks Neddy69, Naked Gunz, triple darkness, Mombie75! I am supposed to arrive next week in Nairobi for a week then Mombasa area for 2 weeks. Just saw Today the president is extending the curfew for another 30 days and now stopping the sale of alcohol. I'm In shape, black, in my 30's and I got decent game. Is this trip still doable? I like to do tourist things first, meet cute ladies second. Between Tagged, Badoo, Tinder I have received over 400 likes in the last two weeks and a bunch of WhatsApp numbers so I think I can build a decent pipeline but that 9 pm curfew sucks, no bars, no hotel drinks, no nightlife. I don't mind a few vacation girlfriends but I want to be able to do stuff and not have a hanger on who is bored sitting in the room watching TV. If I cancel I won't be recover this trip for at least a year. For those who have been on the ground since COVID-19 started and some rules relaxed in July; What say you. Go or Stay?[/QUOTE]What is the procedure for access into Kenya? Some MPs are saying you need a covid negative certificate and others say not.

What info do you have?

The normal population sleep early in Kenya, lime 9 pm and wake early at 6 am. I am sure your going to easily find women for as much fun as you want.

I rarely go to clubs so the curfew would not bother me.

[QUOTE=Matthel32;2470482]I've RTFF 50 pages back for both Nairobi and Mombasa, Thanks Neddy69, Naked Gunz, triple darkness, Mombie75! I am supposed to arrive next week in Nairobi for a week then Mombasa area for 2 weeks. Just saw Today the president is extending the curfew for another 30 days and now stopping the sale of alcohol. I'm In shape, black, in my 30's and I got decent game. Is this trip still dobable?. I like to do tourist things first, meet cute ladies second. Between Tagged, Badoo, Tinder I have received over 400 likes in the last two weeks and a bunch of WhatsApp numbers so I think I can build a decent pipeline but that 9 pm curfew sucks, no bars, no hotel drinks, no nightlife. I don't mind a few vacation girlfriends but I want to be able to do stuff and not have a hanger on who is bored sitting in the room watching TV. If I cancel I won't be recover this trip for at least a year. For those who have been on the ground since COVID-19 started and some rules relaxed in July; What say you. Go or Stay?[/QUOTE]The funny thing was I just left Kenya. Before I left because I lived there for over a year my phone was blowing up from girls that I gave my number to these were non pros who had their hours cut or lost jobs. So as long as the malls are open and stores in the CBD are open you can still fuck.

BUT.

I'm in the DR right now and shit is bad. The main issue is I don't speak spanish and I'm not in Sosua, but the other problem is girls are trying to charge a fortune. And girls not wanting to over night and getting home before that curfew traffic gets overwhelming.

That being said living in the US sex prison is not an option for me. If I were you and you read the forum and you have Tinder I'd say go. If you're working a regular job and you never traveled chances are you never will. Better to take an L on non mongering activities and load up on the insane GFE you'll get.

That will probably give you the Africa bug so that you can do some non mongering on your 11th trip because I still haven't been on a safari and I had many chances to go.

Frankly no amount of RTFF subsitutes for boots on the ground almost everyone's newbie trip is fucked up but you won't realize that until your a Kenya Kimbo on your 30th trip.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2470980]What is the procedure for access into Kenya? Some MPs are saying you need a covid negative certificate and others say not.

What info do you have?

The normal population sleep early in Kenya, lime 9 pm and wake early at 6 am. I am sure your going to easily find women for as much fun as you want.

I rarely go to clubs so the curfew would not bother me.[/QUOTE]Frankly I'll bet there's no real procedure the Kshilling is tanking, It doesn't make sense to have a soft lockdown and allow planes in but these countries need the hard currency.

They let me into the DR with nary a glance and I came from Florida.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2470746]Well. The party factor goes way down as the joints are not allowed to serve alcohol. But knowing Kenya its nigh impossible to police all the back alley joints. After all. The police has to go to some places to have a few beers too. LOL. If you come for pussy and don't mind the reduced party factor. Go ahead. Otherwise fly into NBO and fly to Dar es Salaam.

Neddy.

Who's in the process of finalizing my travel. Leaning towards TZ as I like to have a few Serengeti baridi in Ambiance and look at some bunda shaking chicas stuck in hot pants dancing to local bongo tunes.[/QUOTE]There were bars open and no social distancing in a bar on a side street near me. One day the cops came and beat people's asses for being open and this was after curfew. After that the place did close on time but it was still open during the day.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2470980]What is the procedure for access into Kenya? Some MPs are saying you need a covid negative certificate and others say not.

What info do you have?

The normal population sleep early in Kenya, lime 9 pm and wake early at 6 am. I am sure your going to easily find women for as much fun as you want.

I rarely go to clubs so the curfew would not bother me.[/QUOTE]Forget the MPs. The official government communication says you need a negative PCR Test no older then 72 hours prior to arrival. That's it. Get your VOA as usual. No quarantine.

Neddy.

[URL]https://citizentv.co.ke/news/ukfrance-and-qatar-added-to-list-of-countries-allowed-to-fly-into-kenya-from-august-1-340582/?utm_source=relatedarticles&utm_medium=deeplinking&utm_campaign=AlsoRead[/URL]

Confusion reigns supreme...
Africa....

Ah lots of countries were added last minute.

Oh god let it rain brain.
Negative PCR test within 96 hours and body temperature less than 37.5 degree centigrade.
Then you're good to go.
Neddy

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2471538]Ah lots of countries were added last minute.

Oh god let it rain brain.
Negative PCR test within 96 hours and body temperature less than 37.5 degree centigrade.
Then you're good to go.
Neddy[/QUOTE]So you going to a clinic and perform PCR test. Wait for result. Now 24 H already pass so you need to find a flight fast with no delays.

If you fly Kenya air then take into account a 24 h delay or total cancellation.

Now, Even if you get on time to Kenya immigration the officer can start trolling claiming its not a valid test etc. Let say you pass the immigration then you start mongering with a mask fear from anyone that can infect you.

Would you dare to sit in a crowded Matatu? Well, I am getting crazy here dieing to travel again but not under that risks.

[QUOTE=NmExpert;2471610]So you going to a clinic and perform PCR test. Wait for result. Now 24 H already pass so you need to find a flight fast with no delays.

If you fly Kenya air then take into account a 24 h delay or total cancellation.

Now, Even if you get on time to Kenya immigration the officer can start trolling claiming its not a valid test etc. Let say you pass the immigration then you start mongering with a mask fear from anyone that can infect you.

Would you dare to sit in a crowded Matatu? Well, I am getting crazy here dieing to travel again but not under that risks.[/QUOTE]What risk are you talking about?

The leading cause of mortality in Kenya in the year 2016 included diarrhoea diseases 18.5%, HIV / AIDs 15.56%, lower respiratory infections 8. 62%, tuberculosis 3. 69%, ischemic heart disease 3. 99%, road injuries 1. 47%, interpersonal violence 1. 36%.

The UK government's scientific advisers believe that the chances of dying from a coronavirus infection are between 0. 5% and 1%.

So. Don't worry. Interpersonal violence carries a greater risk than Covid 19.

Neddy.

Put a neatly folded 10 $ note in your test certificate. Or even better. Make an impressive looking form yourself. A good PDF editor will do the trick.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2471789] Or even better. Make an impressive looking form yourself. A good PDF editor will do the trick.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. We'll anticipate seeing your handiwork. In English and Swahili, of course.

This will be my 24th country but first time in Africa. Did my homework but wise enough to know every place is different.

Fingers crossed if I will receive my COVID negative test results in the 96 hour limit, my plan be is to take advantage of the 3 hour ($70) or 8 hour ($130) test results that you can get in Germany (Connecting flight) which is free (Results given in 24 hrs) if coming from a high-risk country. [URL]https://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/corona-testcenter[/URL].

Plan see may be own test result certificate as Neddy69 mentioned.

Any recommendations on a currency exchange place? Is a MEPSA required / easier or is a cash lifestyle preferred? Want to avoid having to use my credit / debit cards if necessary. Any recommendations on areas to lounge / relax in Nairobi to chat and meet people and / or Tinder 1st date. Tinder / Badoo / Tagged is cool but filtering thru hundreds of photos and online intro conversations gets redundant and boring quick; any places that where I can bump into the 25-35 crowd and run game the old fashion way?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2471789]What risk are you talking about?

A good PDF editor will do the trick.[/QUOTE]PCR test cost more then 200 USD were I live so that's a good idea. Maybee to take a real test onces then next time just edit the dates.

Covid has no risk? In thailand airports are closed, I am locked inside for months with no date for reopening.

[QUOTE=Matthel32;2471814]This will be my 24th country but first time in Africa. Did my homework but wise enough to know every place is different.

Fingers crossed if I will receive my COVID negative test results in the 96 hour limit, my plan be is to take advantage of the 3 hour ($70) or 8 hour ($130) test results that you can get in Germany (Connecting flight) which is free (Results given in 24 hrs) if coming from a high-risk country. [URL]https://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/corona-testcenter[/URL].

Plan see may be own test result certificate as Neddy69 mentioned.

Any recommendations on a currency exchange place? Is a MEPSA required / easier or is a cash lifestyle preferred? Want to avoid having to use my credit / debit cards if necessary. Any recommendations on areas to lounge / relax in Nairobi to chat and meet people and / or Tinder 1st date. Tinder / Badoo / Tagged is cool but filtering thru hundreds of photos and online intro conversations gets redundant and boring quick; any places that where I can bump into the 25-35 crowd and run game the old fashion way?[/QUOTE]Get used to use your Debit Cards. Depending from where you're from. I prefer Revolut. Don't kill yourself by running around with a lot of cash. Use secure located ATMS. Even safe deposit boxes in hotels can be opened. Never deposit cash at the reception in an
African hotel.

Neddy.

Kusafiri mzuri.

Matthel,

No need to worry about curfew just meet up with your Tinder / Badoo friends and have them over for after curfew fun. Be sure to buy the drink of your choice for after curfew fun. Alcohol is still available at stores just not at restaurant's so it's not much of a hassle. I have worked in Kenya off and on over the past 14 years and even before this virus fiasco going to clubs for pussy wasn't needed.

As long as you're friendly and treat gals nice pussy is readily available. The gal from the bank, the gal from market, the gal from cellphone shop are all available. You will not be bored! The only problem I can see is if the virus cases keep growing rapidly it might trigger another airport closure and you would be stuck.

Bulik.

[QUOTE=Matthel32;2470483]I've RTFF 50 pages back for both Nairobi and Mombasa, Thanks Neddy69, Naked Gunz, triple darkness, Mombie75! I am supposed to arrive next week in Nairobi for a week then Mombasa area for 2 weeks. Just saw Today the president is extending the curfew for another 30 days and now stopping the sale of alcohol. I'm In shape, black, in my 30's and I got decent game. Is this trip still doable? I like to do tourist things first, meet cute ladies second. Between Tagged, Badoo, Tinder I have received over 400 likes in the last two weeks and a bunch of WhatsApp numbers so I think I can build a decent pipeline but that 9 pm curfew sucks, no bars, no hotel drinks, no nightlife. I don't mind a few vacation girlfriends but I want to be able to do stuff and not have a hanger on who is bored sitting in the room watching TV. If I cancel I won't be recover this trip fo

r at least a year. For those who have been on the ground since COVID-19 started and some rules relaxed in July; What say you. Go or Stay?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Matthel32;2471814]This will be my 24th country but first time in Africa. Did my homework but wise enough to know every place is different.

Fingers crossed if I will receive my COVID negative test results in the 96 hour limit, my plan be is to take advantage of the 3 hour ($70) or 8 hour ($130) test results that you can get in Germany (Connecting flight) which is free (Results given in 24 hrs) if coming from a high-risk country. [URL]https://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/corona-testcenter[/URL].

Plan see may be own test result certificate as Neddy69 mentioned.

Any recommendations on a currency exchange place? Is a MEPSA required / easier or is a cash lifestyle preferred? Want to avoid having to use my credit / debit cards if necessary. Any recommendations on areas to lounge / relax in Nairobi to chat and meet people and / or Tinder 1st date. Tinder / Badoo / Tagged is cool but filtering thru hundreds of photos and online intro conversations gets redundant and boring quick; any places that where I can bump into the 25-35 crowd and run game the old fashion way?[/QUOTE]Will you fly from Frankfurt? I'm tempted to to go Kenya since they accept tourists again now and it is a great destination for mongers but if I'm not wrong is not possible to travel outside Europe for tourism except for some reasons like work / repatriation / emergency. Is there anyone who can confirm that is possible to board a plane to a destination outside the EU without being harassed or even stopped by the authorities asking for a valid purpose to travel?

Hi guys,

I am active on the Medellin threads and hail from NYC. Always fantasized about mongering in Kenya or Tanzania inspired by all the awesome "Mkundu" anal videos on pornhub. I am an Asian guy too so I can imagine this possible venture make me stick out like a sore thumb. I know there are Chinese developers in Africa but not sure if they participate in trying to fuck local anal assholes. Can someone give me a rundown on how it works here and how much an hour of ass fuck with cost. Thanks!

Same I am tempted to go to Nairobi. Maybe departing from FRA over ADD. Direct flights from FRA are not ideal for myself cause there just 1 or two a week.

[QUOTE=FunkyGallo;2471971]Will you fly from Frankfurt? I'm tempted to to go Kenya since they accept tourists again now and it is a great destination for mongers but if I'm not wrong is not possible to travel outside Europe for tourism except for some reasons like work / repatriation / emergency. Is there anyone who can confirm that is possible to board a plane to a destination outside the EU without being harassed or even stopped by the authorities asking for a valid purpose to travel?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunkyGallo;2471971]Will you fly from Frankfurt? I'm tempted to to go Kenya since they accept tourists again now and it is a great destination for mongers but if I'm not wrong is not possible to travel outside Europe for tourism except for some reasons like work / repatriation / emergency. Is there anyone who can confirm that is possible to board a plane to a destination outside the EU without being harassed or even stopped by the authorities asking for a valid purpose to travel?[/QUOTE]My understanding is that certain (crappy) countries ban people from leaving the EU but they can do so from said (crappy) country. If you fly from an EU country that only RECOMMENDS not traveling, I don't think they can stop you because of your citizenship. I hope I am right since I will put this to the test in October. I'll leave my (crappy) country to slip into a neighbouring country by road or train, then embark on a flight out of the EU from the neighbouring country. Which country are you from?

Sex Workers Defy Covid-19 Safety Measures To Earn A Living.

Sex workers have defied safety regulations and has instead device alternative ways of keeping their business going as normal, despite the pandemic that has claimed more than 100 Kenyans with about 3000 infected, both young and the elderly continue to stream to this dens not keeping in mind about the risky affair.

[URL]https://youtu.be/N8HYK43HKpc[/URL]

I am off the Nairobi this weekend for 10 days on business. The curfew is still on 9 PM-4 AM which will not bother me at all as I will have an african matako (ass) bouncing around my airbnb each night to compensate. The curfew looks like it will be dropped or relaxed next week anyways on Tuesday.

I've messaged some girls I know who have been tricky to get hold of in the past but this time due to hit on clubs / tourists they are itching to meet up.

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Can you please post a review of your stay. It would be a first time trip for me. I have done my research, spoke to tons of tinder girls. But always welcome added info. I am an ass / body man. While I enjoyed my stay in Colombia, I miss not being around a plethoria of voloptuous black women. Little info on the women attitude will be helful.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2486666]I am off the Nairobi this weekend for 10 days on business. The curfew is still on 9 PM-4 AM which will not bother me at all as I will have an african matako (ass) bouncing around my airbnb each night to compensate. The curfew looks like it will be dropped or relaxed next week anyways on Tuesday.

I've messaged some girls I know who have been tricky to get hold of in the past but this time due to hit on clubs / tourists they are itching to meet up.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2487315]Can you please post a review of your stay. It would be a first time trip for me. I have done my research, spoke to tons of tinder girls. But always welcome added info. I am an ass / body man. While I enjoyed my stay in Colombia, I miss not being around a plethoria of voloptuous black women. Little info on the women attitude will be helful..[/QUOTE]What do you want to know? My 1st bit advice would be go to Mombasa not Nairobi.

I just want your current report of the town. I am traveling to Colombia before going to Nairobi. I understand the mongering, hustling dynamics. The variety of chicas. Bodies, complexions. Do you find a mix of lightskin and darkskin. Tall. Personalities. Things like that. Do you get blow jobs easily?

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2487462]What do you want to know? My 1st bit advice would be go to Mombasa not Nairobi.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2487757]I just want your current report of the town. I am traveling to Colombia before going to Nairobi. I understand the mongering, hustling dynamics. The variety of chicas. Bodies, complexions. Do you find a mix of lightskin and darkskin. Tall. Personalities. Things like that. Do you get blow jobs easily?.[/QUOTE]I don't how much of a party you will find during curfew, and shoot to kill cops taking aim at violators. Most of the foreigner places were either closed or starting to suck even before covid. Africans like to sit and drink and act like they have money by stacking bottles on the table or drinking Red label JW. The dudes will just be haters because your taking their pussy. Best bet is my old playbook: Dating site or Tinder before arrival and have them come to you if they are not too lazy or afraid. Plan on meeting at a fairly neutral location before taking her to your place.

You have to understand most of these women live across town, and don't want to take a matatu to meet some dude they don't know unless they really need cash. Expect demand for Uber, and not the knockout chic in the photo. I don't know Colombia, but I'm sure its much more of a hoe vibe. Kenya is more conservative than that. I love Nairobi but can't see flying for hours just to watch TV and fuck. I can do that much closer to the states. If Liedos is open you will be surrounded by very fine tits and ass trying to convince you to go upstairs for a toss. Yes, there is a very nice mix of short, tall, thick and small. There is so much pussy to watch in town you will break ya neck, but they are hard to get to stop and talk. Good Luck.

Most likely my visit will be in March. I believe the country will be open by then. Yes I am very comfortable staying in and fucking. Very comfortable using tinder and carefully scrutunize any potential prospects through whatsapp. My stay would be 2 to 3 months. Maybe a stop to uganda. My to do list is Africa or Brazil. After 4 months in Colombia I would like to travel where english is spoken. Most countries has the same dynamics just different cultures and danger levels.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2488246]I don't how much of a party you will find during curfew, and shoot to kill cops taking aim at violators. Most of the foreigner places were either closed or starting to suck even before covid. Africans like to sit and drink and act like they have money by stacking bottles on the table or drinking Red label JW. The dudes will just be haters because your taking their pussy. Best bet is my old playbook: Dating site or Tinder before arrival and have them come to you if they are not too lazy or afraid. Plan on meeting at a fairly neutral location before taking her to your place.

You have to understand most of these women live across town, and don't want to take a matatu to meet some dude they don't know unless they really need cash. Expect demand for Uber, and not the knockout chic in the photo. I don't know Colombia, but I'm sure its much more of a hoe vibe. Kenya is more conservative than that. I love Nairobi but can't see flying for hours just to watch TV and fuck. I can do that much closer to the states. If Liedos is open you will be surrounded by very fine tits and ass trying to convince you to go upstairs for a toss. Yes, there is a very nice mix of short, tall, thick and small. There is so much pussy to watch in town you will break ya neck, but they are hard to get to stop and talk. Good Luck.[/QUOTE].

Did you feel safe with mobility? From middle class area to CBD. Yes I know to be precautious with valuables.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2488428]Most likely my visit will be in March. I believe the country will be open by then. Yes I am very comfortable staying in and fucking. Very comfortable using tinder and carefully scrutunize any potential prospects through whatsapp. My stay would be 2 to 3 months. Maybe a stop to uganda. My to do list is Africa or Brazil. After 4 months in Colombia I would like to travel where english is spoken. Most countries has the same dynamics just different cultures and danger levels.

.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2488541]Did you feel safe with mobility? From middle class area to CBD. Yes I know to be precautious with valuables..[/QUOTE]I guess it will be good if they don't shut down again by then. My post was a bit premature, seems they are opening now!

I hope you did enough research to know where you will be staying. I fucking wound up in Eastleigh on one of my trips! Staying in Westlands is best option (esp for a newbie) or at least West of CBD. Traveling around Nai is easy except Eastlands. Don't go there as a newb. Don't venture around River Rd. On foot. When you go to Kenya enough times you will be taking the bus, have a rolodex of numbers, and know all the spots. It is a culture shock for the first time though, even for a Black man. If you see a woman you want, move quickly if she is walking alone. There are dozens of women I moved too slowly and lost out on.

I notice you do not get much amenities for price of apartments compared to other countries. I am looking to pay $700 or less for a 1 bdrm, tv, security guard. Would you like to comment on renting. I am trying to stay a 2 to 3 months. I have looked into Westland but what about these areas?

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2488845]I guess it will be good if they don't shut down again by then. My post was a bit premature, seems they are opening now!

I hope you did enough research to know where you will be staying. I fucking wound up in Eastleigh on one of my trips! Staying in Westlands is best option (esp for a newbie) or at least West of CBD. Traveling around Nai is easy except Eastlands. Don't go there as a newb. Don't venture around River Rd. On foot. When you go to Kenya enough times you will be taking the bus, have a rolodex of numbers, and know all the spots. It is a culture shock for the first time though, even for a Black man. If you see a woman you want, move quickly if she is walking alone. There are dozens of women I moved too slowly and lost out on.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2489033]I notice you do not get much amenities for price of apartments compared to other countries. I am looking to pay $700 or less for a 1 bdrm, tv, security guard. Would you like to comment on renting. I am trying to stay a 2 to 3 months. I have looked into Westland but what about these areas?.[/QUOTE]I always stay in kilimani. Most women will not mind going there to see you. ABB is the best option. My friend got not one but two great apts. On ABB there. I would try to get as close to YaYa so I could go buy groceries and booze, top up the phone and meet women your not sure of for coffee before bringing to the suite. I don't know the other area that well but it is baller country. If you tell a chic come to kilieshwa your price just doubled, and I don't recall a lot of apartments there when passing through, or shopping.

You sound sharp and skilled. How about brothels, casas. Strip clubs that allow sex. Any to recommend. Colombia has lots of them. How about 3 somes and 4 somes. Colombia is good for that has well.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2489044]I always stay in kilimani. Most women will not mind going there to see you. ABB is the best option. My friend got not one but two great apts. On ABB there. I would try to get as close to YaYa so I could go buy groceries and booze, top up the phone and meet women your not sure of for coffee before bringing to the suite. I don't know the other area that well but it is baller country. If you tell a chic come to kilieshwa your price just doubled, and I don't recall a lot of apartments there when passing through, or shopping.[/QUOTE].

Blakman.

"You sound sharp and skilled. How about brothels, casas. Strip clubs that allow sex. Any to recommend. Colombia has lots of them. How about 3 somes and 4 somes. Colombia is good for that has well. ".
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Hey man, Kenya is not Colombia! Just go there, and enjoy what you get. There are no Rules for 3 and 4 somes, if you find a girl which accept this its fine, but why you want to connect it with the country itself.

Also there are no brothel in Kenya, the country itself is a brothel no need for specific brothels.

Also there are no strip Clubs which allow Sex!! Just take the girl to your place, so simple.

And don't take your memories from Colombia to Kenya- just start from fresh, learning by doing.
If you want Colombia scene- just return to Colombia, if you want to try something new, fly to Kenya, Thailand, Philipines,
Thats what we did all as adventurers....

John.

Relax. Questions are made to be asked. Comparisons arent illegal. Inputs are much welcome so I thank you. This is how I get to Kenya and perform like a season veteran rather than a newbie.

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2489133]Blakman.

"You sound sharp and skilled. How about brothels, casas. Strip clubs that allow sex. Any to recommend. Colombia has lots of them. How about 3 somes and 4 somes. Colombia is good for that has well. ".
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Hey man, Kenya is not Colombia! Just go there, and enjoy what you get. There are no Rules for 3 and 4 somes, if you find a girl which accept this its fine, but why you want to connect it with the country itself.

Also there are no brothel in Kenya, the country itself is a brothel no need for specific brothels.

Also there are no strip Clubs which allow Sex!! Just take the girl to your place, so simple.

And don't take your memories from Colombia to Kenya- just start from fresh, learning by doing.
If you want Colombia scene- just return to Colombia, if you want to try something new, fly to Kenya, Thailand, Philipines,
Thats what we did all as adventurers....

John.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JohnAuro;2489133]Hey man, Kenya is not Colombia! Just go there, and enjoy what you get. There are no Rules for 3 and 4 somes, if you find a girl which accept this its fine, but why you want to connect it with the country itself.Also there are no brothel in Kenya, the country itself is a brothel no need for specific brothels.Also there are no strip Clubs which allow Sex!! Just take the girl to your place, so simple.And don't take your memories from Colombia to Kenya- just start from fresh, learning by doing.
If you want Colombia scene- just return to Colombia, if you want to try something new, fly to Kenya, Thailand, Philipines, Thats what we did all as adventurers....John.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Blakman;2489184]Relax. Questions are made to be asked. Comparisons arent illegal. Inputs are much welcome so I thank you. This is how I get to Kenya and perform like a season veteran rather than a newbie..[/QUOTE]Which proves my point that people don't like to read anymore. There are strip clubs where you fuck near River Rd. Did I not just post that going to Leidos and will see fantastic strippers that you take upstairs. A veteran goes back a few pages to gather knowledge, rather that sit at daddies lap for spoon feeding-no offense. I also said that Kenya is conservative. They literally have attacked and stripped women naked for wearing too sexy clothes. I wore an earring, and almost stopped the city in its tracks. Don't waste your time trying to convince threesome and anal unless you find women that like it, and it took me years to do it. John is right, stop asking so many questions, go there and enjoy, and recognize Kenya ain't Colombia.

I've just returned from Nairobi, I've lived on and off there and Mombasa the last 20 years. It is thought the current 10 pm closing of bars for the 11 pm curfew will last 60 days, around 55 days from today, though it may open up fully sooner I think to get the economy moving.

Badoo and tinder have been the way to go the last few years for me as I am not one for clubs. If I do a club I just grab something from Black Diamond or one of noisy bars in town. Also you have to have the balls to just approach anyone you see, sometimes it works sometimes not.

The main thing is take them for a drink or a bite to eat, if you like them make it clear what you want and bow much you will give them.

I went for a massage in town yesterday and took the massage back to my airbnb, got a massage and 2 fucks for 3000ks. Best fuck I've ever had and she loved it, was right up for anything goes.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2487462]What do you want to know? My 1st bit advice would be go to Mombasa not Nairobi.[/QUOTE]Can you go into detail about why you'd recommend Mombasa Nairobi? I have RTFF and it seemed like Mombasa was liked by the majority, but there was a notably scathing report by Elephantbeer recently. Is Mombasa perhaps not beginner friendly?

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2489921]Can you go into detail about why you'd recommend Mombasa Nairobi? I have RTFF and it seemed like Mombasa was liked by the majority, but there was a notably scathing report by Elephantbeer recently. Is Mombasa perhaps not beginner friendly?[/QUOTE]Mombasa is small, easy to navigate, no traffic problems. Remember this is not really Mombasa as that is in fact an Island and you wouldn't really want to stay on it IMO. Head off to the north coast of Mombasa which is on the mainland, includes the areas of Nyali, Bamburi, Shanzu and Mtwapa.

Girls in Mombasa are a lot easier to deal with and readily accept 2-3 k where as Nairobi is a nightmare for moving around due to traffic. The quality in Nairobi is better but expect to pay more for it and not all girls will be easy to meet. In Mombasa there is really no legwork needed, it is more or less point and smile and they will come. Nairobi they will try to squeeze what they can and that is their sole aim.

If you have never been to Kenya them Mombasa over Nairobi unless you want to hit Kenya full on from the get go.

My inquiry got clarification that there is strip clubs that you can go to and fuck. Which was not distintively clarified initially. It brings about different points of view. A championship boxer studies is opponent before getting into the ring. Its my freedom to write and ask what I want. So aint nobody right in telling me what to do.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2489592]Which proves my point that people don't like to read anymore. There are strip clubs where you fuck near River Rd. Did I not just post that going to Leidos and will see fantastic strippers that you take upstairs. A veteran goes back a few pages to gather knowledge, rather that sit at daddies lap for spoon feeding-no offense. I also said that Kenya is conservative. They literally have attacked and stripped women naked for wearing too sexy clothes. I wore an earring, and almost stopped the city in its tracks. Don't waste your time trying to convince threesome and anal unless you find women that like it, and it took me years to do it. John is right, stop asking so many questions, go there and enjoy, and recognize Kenya ain't Colombia.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2490087]Mombasa is small, easy to navigate, no traffic problems. Remember this is not really Mombasa as that is in fact an Island and you wouldn't really want to stay on it IMO. Head off to the north coast of Mombasa which is on the mainland, includes the areas of Nyali, Bamburi, Shanzu and Mtwapa.

Girls in Mombasa are a lot easier to deal with and readily accept 2-3 k where as Nairobi is a nightmare for moving around due to traffic. The quality in Nairobi is better but expect to pay more for it and not all girls will be easy to meet. In Mombasa there is really no legwork needed, it is more or less point and smile and they will come. Nairobi they will try to squeeze what they can and that is their sole aim.

If you have never been to Kenya them Mombasa over Nairobi unless you want to hit Kenya full on from the get go.[/QUOTE]Thank you for answering my questions. If you're not really a club / bar guy (which I am not) can you get a good selection of women through apps? If so, can you share which apps work well in Kenya? The standards of badoo and tinder I'm guessing would work, but any other apps if apps are an option?

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2490741]Thank you for answering my questions. If you're not really a club / bar guy (which I am not) can you get a good selection of women through apps? If so, can you share which apps work well in Kenya? The standards of badoo and tinder I'm guessing would work, but any other apps if apps are an option?[/QUOTE]I use badoo which gets plenty of attention. It is only $1 to upgrade on a Kenyan sim. I use tinder as well. I don't know any other apps, they are enough for me.

Will be in Nairobi for 3 months. Wondering about prices of viagra and cialis. Also does anyone recommend crossing over to kampala uganda for a few weeks.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2492041]Will be in Nairobi for 3 months. Wondering about prices of viagra and cialis. Also does anyone recommend crossing over to kampala uganda for a few weeks.[/QUOTE]I personally always brought my own there. They don't check that closely and any BS prescript will do if questioned. The quality of anything but pussy in Kenya is just too questionable to go to a pharmacy for dick pills. They will be so caught off guard you will get a deer in the headlight looks being a Westerner coming in for cock medicine. They will be totally embarrassed. Hell I get that look almost everywhere I went. I would say your better off getting before you leave. Actually have you RTFF, I'm sure I have seen old posts regarding this.

Since I am staying so long figured I would run out. But how about Uganda anything to share over there. Will I see women from other countries in nairobi.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2492544]I personally always brought my own there. They don't check that closely and any BS prescript will do if questioned. The quality of anything but pussy in Kenya is just too questionable to go to a pharmacy for dick pills. They will be so caught off guard you will get a deer in the headlight looks being a Westerner coming in for cock medicine. They will be totally embarrassed. Hell I get that look almost everywhere I went. I would say your better off getting before you leave. Actually have you RTFF, I'm sure I have seen old posts regarding this.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2493019]Since I am staying so long figured I would run out. But how about Uganda anything to share over there. Will I see women from other countries in nairobi.

.[/QUOTE]There are three places that you could visit in my opinion, Mombasa, Uganda capital Kampala and Dar es Salaam in Tanzania. Mombasa is easiest to visit, and I would recommend that most. Spend longer time in North Coast, and couple of days in South Coast / Diani.

Uganda and Dar es Salaam, you can make a round trip.

You have a lot of research to do if you visit any of these places, flights, visas, hotels, places to go, etc. Each of these places have their own forum.

I personally like much more Mombasa than Nairobi, Nairobi is just for hanging in bars. Mombasa has beach and ocean at least, and warmer climate. Maybe you will move to Mombasa after you get tired of Nairobi. If you have some work or business to run in Nairobi, that is different.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2492544]I personally always brought my own there. They don't check that closely and any BS prescript will do if questioned. The quality of anything but pussy in Kenya is just too questionable to go to a pharmacy for dick pills. They will be so caught off guard you will get a deer in the headlight looks being a Westerner coming in for cock medicine. They will be totally embarrassed. Hell I get that look almost everywhere I went. I would say your better off getting before you leave. Actually have you RTFF, I'm sure I have seen old posts regarding this.[/QUOTE]When I was in Mombasa earlier this year I had no issues getting generic tadalafil (1000 kes for 4 x 20 MG). They sell the the brand name version too, if you want. Just write what you want on a piece of paper and hand it to the pharmacist. No weird looks or anything. But maybe it depends which pharmacy you go to. I normally use the one on the right of the main road from Mombasa to Bamburi, just before Bamburi junction.

But yes, maybe better to bring your own. I never had anything checked by customs. And I'm sure kitu kidogo would most likely solve any issues.

I am more of a bar guy than a beach guy. I just want to see beautiful black women with amazing bodies especially asses. I have research nairobi and kampala. Have talked to many on tinder. I am very close on booking my flight for March. Actually don't know why I am delaying its a good priced flight. Met a few african women in thailand. So I want to see them in abundance.

[QUOTE=Leblon;2493511]There are three places that you could visit in my opinion, Mombasa, Uganda capital Kampala and Dar es Salaam in Tanzania. Mombasa is easiest to visit, and I would recommend that most. Spend longer time in North Coast, and couple of days in South Coast / Diani.

Uganda and Dar es Salaam, you can make a round trip.

You have a lot of research to do if you visit any of these places, flights, visas, hotels, places to go, etc. Each of these places have their own forum.

I personally like much more Mombasa than Nairobi, Nairobi is just for hanging in bars. Mombasa has beach and ocean at least, and warmer climate. Maybe you will move to Mombasa after you get tired of Nairobi. If you have some work or business to run in Nairobi, that is different.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=PookyMan;2493539]When I was in Mombasa earlier this year I had no issues getting generic tadalafil (1000 kes for 4 x 20 MG). They sell the the brand name version too, if you want. Just write what you want on a piece of paper and hand it to the pharmacist. No weird looks or anything. But maybe it depends which pharmacy you go to. I normally use the one on the right of the main road from Mombasa to Bamburi, just before Bamburi junction.[/QUOTE]All this Kenya talk has got me thinking about a trip in Dec.

I never really liked basa like I do Nairobi, although I do have the hottest bodied, tightest pussy woman there still waiting. Beach is not my thing, and being hassled by touts trying to sell shit is way too annoying. People in Nai have better sense, and the women are smarter. Mombasa is full of idiots.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2493684]I am more of a bar guy than a beach guy. I just want to see beautiful black women with amazing bodies especially asses. I have research nairobi and kampala. Have talked to many on tinder. I am very close on booking my flight for March. Actually don't know why I am delaying its a good priced flight. Met a few african women in thailand. So I want to see them in abundance..[/QUOTE]Don't let Thailand quality misguide you. Seems the most fugly, fat rejects wound up there. I never seem such sad hoes than Africans in Asia. Top shelf is in Dubai. Ugandan women have a rep for pleasing the man better than Kenyan women and their bad attitudes. They even hiring Ugandan women more and more in Kenya, and Kenya biatches they don't like it. Expect horrible service from jealous Kenyan women where ever you go unless your white. The best women I meet in Kenya are Rwandan.

Interesting feedback. In thailand, the madagascar and morrocan women were most attractive. I did experience the submissiveness of the ugandans and hustle of the kenyan and south african. Will I see diversity in Kenya. You mention rwanda, uganda, how about ethiopians and somalians. I love the nightlife in pattaya. Will I get that vibe in Nairobi, mombassa if the virus is no longer an issue.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2493872]All this Kenya talk has got me thinking about a trip in Dec.

I never really liked basa like I do Nairobi, although I do have the hottest bodied, tightest pussy woman there still waiting. Beach is not my thing, and being hassled by touts trying to sell shit is way too annoying. People in Nai have better sense, and the women are smarter. Mombasa is full of idiots.

Don't let Thailand quality misguide you. Seems the most fugly, fat rejects wound up there. I never seem such sad hoes than Africans in Asia. Top shelf is in Dubai. Ugandan women have a rep for pleasing the man better than Kenyan women and their bad attitudes. They even hiring Ugandan women more and more in Kenya, and Kenya biatches they don't like it. Expect horrible service from jealous Kenyan women where ever you go unless your white. The best women I meet in Kenya are Rwandan.[/QUOTE].

You can't go wrong with the 3 choices I like kampala. Nairobi and mombasa I was the same way as you was in thailand 3 years ago enjoy met the african girls in Bangkok and pattaya told myself need to go to africa been there 3 times since not going back to thailand. I think the clubs are better in kampala the women are great in both countries I'm 63 I enjoy myself a lot.

I am 55 going on 22 LOL. I heard the same about the clubs in Kampala being very nice. Well true confession I am a cheapy charlie and managing this escapade through savings so I am not a baller and will feel every dollar spent when I get back in the USA. Can I get a 1 bedroom with good amenities for $700 or less for a month in Nairobi and Kampala. Which town would you say girls have the better bodies. Kampala or Nairobi. Anyways plan would be to visit both getting east african visa.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2493974]You can't go wrong with the 3 choices I like kampala. Nairobi and mombasa I was the same way as you was in thailand 3 years ago enjoy met the african girls in Bangkok and pattaya told myself need to go to africa been there 3 times since not going back to thailand. I think the clubs are better in kampala the women are great in both countries I'm 63 I enjoy myself a lot.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2493989]I am 55 going on 22 LOL. I heard the same about the clubs in Kampala being very nice. Well true confession I am a cheapy charlie and managing this escapade through savings so I am not a baller and will feel every dollar spent when I get back in the USA. Can I get a 1 bedroom with good amenities for $700 or less for a month in Nairobi and Kampala. Which town would you say girls have the better bodies. Kampala or Nairobi. Anyways plan would be to visit both getting east african visa..[/QUOTE]You could probably get a good deal on airbnb for a months apartment in Nairobi for $700.

Kampala v Nairobi bodies, pretty much the same, you got all the shapes and sizes you want, maybe there are more slimmer girls in Nairobi but I did not see much difference my few days in Kampala.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2493974]You can't go wrong with the 3 choices I like kampala. Nairobi and mombasa I was the same way as you was in thailand 3 years ago enjoy met the african girls in Bangkok and pattaya told myself need to go to Africa been there 3 times since not going back to thailand. I think the clubs are better in kampala the women are great in both countries I'm 63 I enjoy myself a lot.[/QUOTE]I've been going to Thailand since 1987, lived in Pattaya for 2 years, so most I know is Asia, and without Covid that wouldn't have changed. Cambodia is fun.

Here in Europe I really like Budapest, but their borders are now closed as well.

This year no possibility to go there, so I am now looking at a first time visit to Africa. I could use some tips helping me decide, so following this and other threads.

Uganda was my first choice, plan is to go December 1st until Christmas.

Looking to book a flight soon, Turkish airlines have some promotions (from Belgium), in the hope this one doesn't get cancelled (I have 6 vouchers now).

[QUOTE=SoiThree;2494296]I've been going to Thailand since 1987, lived in Pattaya for 2 years, so most I know is Asia, and without Covid that wouldn't have changed. Cambodia is fun.

Here in Europe I really like Budapest, but their borders are now closed as well.

This year no possibility to go there, so I am now looking at a first time visit to Africa. I could use some tips helping me decide, so following this and other threads.

Uganda was my first choice, plan is to go December 1st until Christmas.

Looking to book a flight soon, Turkish airlines have some promotions (from Belgium), in the hope this one doesn't get cancelled (I have 6 vouchers now).[/QUOTE]I have been to Nairobi three times, Kampala once and Thailand maybe ten times, 7-10 days per trip. All three places are incredibly fun, although meeting "non-pros" (Please don't fight me on the definition) is far more difficult in Thailand. Every girl I met in Kampala and Nairobi was ready to move into my hotel room for the week, but I only had one girl like that in all of my trips to Thailand. I generally meet the girls on line (I use [URL]tagged.com[/URL] for Africa, but for Thailand I like [URL]thaifriendly.com[/URL]). The last time I was in Nairobi (2019), I actually did not go to a club once as I had a girl who was into picking up girls for threesomes, and I was always too busy. I have read here that the best clubs have disappeared, but I can guarantee you that you will not have any difficulty finding girls. The few times I was free to roam on my own in Kampala and Nairobi, I flirted with the girls in the handicraft Markets and easily found myself a date. As far as I could discern, once an African girl has made the decision to dine with a foreigner, 99% of them will have sex. The clubs in Kampala were awesome (2018), but I overbooked myself with Tagged girls and I got myself a girl from Rwanda whom I actually fell in love with (I am a 65 year old mongerer and she was 21, so I was hardly about to commit myself to her) so I did not really get to know the clubs. I have not been to Mombasa, but it sounds even better than Nairobi, as Nairobi is a dirty and noisy city.

Almost all of the hotels are girl friendly in Kenya and Uganda. In Nairobi, I stayed at The Stanley Hotel, which is supposedly 5 stars and has a nice Thai restaurant on the premises. The food was pretty good, but not BKK. The hotel was nice, and is centrally located. It was convenient for the girls to come to me, but I never really found anything worth doing in Kampala. In Kampala, I stayed at the Speke (like many of the guys on this board). Be very careful to get a room on the opposite side of the hotel from the Rock Garden bar, as the bar gets really noisy at night and into the wee hours of the morning. The girls at the Rock Garden were of mediocre looks, and you will do a lot better at the clubs.

One thing worth mentioning. The international flights in and out of Nairobi are crazy. Of course, you now do most of the visa stuff on line before traveling. You will be asked for proof of yellow fever vaccine, and if you do not have it, I think they send you to a clinic in the airport to get vaccinated. Otherwise, entering seemed pretty normal to me.

Going home was not normal. The cabs cannot get close to the terminal because they are afraid someone will blow up the terminal with a car filled with explosives. So there is a long walk to get into a long line. There are more security lines than you can imagine and no one seems to know which line is for check in for which plane. I was flying business on Kenya Airways which was actually a KLM flight (or maybe it was the other way around) from Nairobi to AMS. After waiting in line to check in for about an hour, I was told I was in the wrong line and had to wait the next line over for another 30 minutes. If you usually like to show up two hours in advance, add an hour or two.

Check Lufthansa, very good prices at least for Nairobi, I paid 480 euros from Paris end of August.

[QUOTE=SoiThree;2494296]I've been going to Thailand since 1987, lived in Pattaya for 2 years, so most I know is Asia, and without Covid that wouldn't have changed. Cambodia is fun.
Here in Europe I really like Budapest, but their borders are now closed as well.
This year no possibility to go there, so I am now looking at a first time visit to Africa. I could use some tips helping me decide, so following this and other threads.
Uganda was my first choice, plan is to go December 1st until Christmas.
Looking to book a flight soon, Turkish airlines have some promotions (from Belgium), in the hope this one doesn't get cancelled (I have 6 vouchers now).[/QUOTE]6 vouchers!

I will be in Nairobi Dec28-Jan1 then on to Msa for 3 weeks if anyone is around for a drink.

Kenya is very different from Thailand, I have met several Thai experts trying Nairobi or Mombasa for a change but they never seem able to adjust to it. Thailand spoils you due to the sheer amount of bars and women available. Kenya does not have so many bars and the abundance of women as Thailand but there is still easily enough for what we want.

For Kampala check whether you need yellow fever jab / cert for Uganda? Not sure what that situation is these days. Several years since I went there.

Kenya you do not need one.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2494378]Check Lufthansa, very good prices at least for Nairobi, I paid 480 euros from Paris end of August.[/QUOTE]Did you have to show a certificate of a negative PCR covid test upon arrival in Nairobi. ?

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2494461]Did you have to show a certificate of a negative PCR covid test upon arrival in Nairobi. ?[/QUOTE]Yes, you do. Print one off google images, use photoshop to change name, there you go. Save $150.

They can not verify them.

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2494461]Did you have to show a certificate of a negative PCR covid test upon arrival in Nairobi. ?[/QUOTE]Yes, sure, and you have to show it at start, in Paris, or elsewhere you start, not only upon arrival. So you must take that in account to get it valid, ie 72 hours max, either at start and for arrival.

But for arrival they just looked at the mobile phone, without asking for my name, so I could have showed any other PCR test result, only the date and the result were interesting them.

There is also a QR Code, its an app you find on the Kenyan web site, asking some questions, same as those you have to fill on paper in the plane, and at the end it sends a QR Code in your mail box, only a QR code. On arrival they read the QR code and see your answers on their tablet, but on start, Lufthansa was asking for the QR code also, and as there is nothing but the QR itself in the mail, they didn't want to me to board!! It took 30 minutes of discussion for them to agree that they didn't knew what was this QR, so they finally agreed for my boarding.

For return. Nothing.

But was end of August, return around 6 of Sep.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2494508]Yes, sure, and you have to show it at start, in Paris, or elsewhere you start, not only upon arrival. So you must take that in account to get it valid, ie 72 hours max, either at start and for arrival.
.[/QUOTE]OK, thanks for the info. I will probably try to reach MBA via Addis or Turkey.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2494409]6 vouchers!

I will be in Nairobi Dec28-Jan1 then on to Msa for 3 weeks if anyone is around for a drink.

Kenya is very different from Thailand, I have met several Thai experts trying Nairobi or Mombasa for a change but they never seem able to adjust to it. Thailand spoils you due to the sheer amount of bars and women available. Kenya does not have so many bars and the abundance of women as Thailand but there is still easily enough for what we want.

For Kampala check whether you need yellow fever jab / cert for Uganda? Not sure what that situation is these days. Several years since I went there.

Kenya you do not need one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the info guys, appreciated.

I booked a ticket to Kampala, December 1 - 24 (wanted to stay longer but I have to go in quarantine for 10 days when I return to Belgium.

487 euro non stop flights with Brussels airlines (the company where I have the 6 vouchers).

I asked some more info via facebook messenger at a hotel where I plan to stay for the first nights.

Yellow fever vaccination and a covid test required, curfew between 9 pm and 6 pm, so not too much nightlife.

I do plan to go and see some nature and wildlife besides mongering.

Yes Mombie75, Thailand used to be like that when I started going there in late eighties until mid nineties. There will never be a better place than Thailand in that period IMHO.

Now it's more hardened, more expensive, but still fun (I speak the language), when I retire I will be there for most of the time. Easy to visit Cambodia, Vietnam, Myanmar. From there.

First get past that damn Covid.

Well, the cancellation of my flight to Bangkok gives me the opportunity to visit Africa for the first time.

I will continue reading in the Uganda section I guess, but thanks again for all the tips.

When meeting girls in person that you became acquaintence through tag. Is the skin color considerably darker as if most pics were filter to look light.

2nd. Do you see a good amount of lightskin Kenya women?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2495799]When meeting girls in person that you became acquaintence through tag. Is the skin color considerably darker as if most pics were filter to look light.

2nd. Do you see a good amount of lightskin Kenya women?[/QUOTE]Yes, they do use filters on pics but you can easily identify those pics.

There are not many light skinned by western black standards.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2495799]When meeting girls in person that you became acquaintence through tag. Is the skin color considerably darker as if most pics were filter to look light. 2nd. Do you see a good amount of lightskin Kenya women?[/QUOTE]If your only coming to Kenya once or twice, then jump in, the water is fine, as long as no heavy covid restrictions are in place. It's Africa. Everybody is Black! Don't fret over skin tone, jeez! If you become a frequent visitor it's best to learn about the tribes, and who is in power, who wants the power, and the women's characteristics of the tribe.

I am a regular traveller to Thailand, but given that there is no end in sight to the Covid travel bans, I have started exploring other locations. Kenya seems very promising. Infact I am quite surprised that I have not considered it so far. I have read posts going back a few years on both Nairobi and Mombasa and I am leaning towards Nairobi, but would greatly appreciate inputs from more seasoned Africa mongers.

My rationale for Nairobi:

- Mombasa seems easier for mongering. However, I understood most of the action is centred around Mtwapa. I saw some videos of Mtwapa and I felt I would not be comfortable staying there. Bamburi beach could be an option but from what I saw on google maps, it is about 30 minutes drive and I was not sure if that would be so convenient.

- I am into black girls (one of my regulars is a black university student in London). However, I am not into big booties. I prefer slim girls.

- From what I read, I figured it would be easier to find this type of girls in Nairobi as compared to Mombasa.

- A small factor is also the convenience of direct flights to Nairobi from London.

- I understand cost of girls in Nairobi is higher than in Mombasa. I would off course value for my money and at the same time I am not a budget traveller.
- My trip is likely to be 7-10 days and so not keen on splitting it between two locations

Could I please get some help with the following:

- Given my choice of girls and reluctance to stay in Mtwapa, is it a good choice to go to and or am I missing something about M?

- Another option could be to go to Kampala. However, that seems to a place for big booties and that's not what I am looking for. Am I getting this right?

- Lastly, I am of Indian origin and while that does make life more challenging in Thailand, I have never had to sleep alone for that reason. I wondered how are mongers of Indian origin viewed in Kenya, especially given that there seems to be a large Indian population there? I am early forties and not overweight.

Will greatly appreciate some insights.

- Stay in Bamburi Beach and only go to Mtwapa if you want to go to Causarina club or want to find a woman day time. No other reason to go there.

- Nairobi and Mombasa, just the same sizes they are all Kenyans, some big but most slim.

- 1 flight or 2, your choice. Nbi to Msa is a 1 hour flight.

- As with most capitals you tend to pay more. Women ask for more in Nbi that's for sure and will refuse you if you don't pay. In Msa they ask for less and rarely refuse your offer.

- Nbi-Msa is just a 1 hour flight.

- Nbi has horrible traffic to try to go from a to be. It is much more spread out and girls usually live a distance away. Msa is small and girls usually live close by so easier for meeting, Msa has the beach and clean air for relaxing, superb massages at the beach, very easy to navigate.

- Kampala has more booty on their women.

- There is an Indian population in Kenya but I have rarely come across them tbh. I guess if you act fine and pay there should be no problems.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2496988]- Stay in Bamburi Beach and only go to Mtwapa if you want to go to Causarina club or want to find a woman day time. No other reason to go there.

- Nairobi and Mombasa, just the same sizes they are all Kenyans, some big but most slim.

- 1 flight or 2, your choice. Nbi to Msa is a 1 hour flight.

- As with most capitals you tend to pay more. Women ask for more in Nbi that's for sure and will refuse you if you don't pay. In Msa they ask for less and rarely refuse your offer.

- Nbi-Msa is just a 1 hour flight.

- Nbi has horrible traffic to try to go from a to be. It is much more spread out and girls usually live a distance away. Msa is small and girls usually live close by so easier for meeting, Msa has the beach and clean air for relaxing, superb massages at the beach, very easy to navigate.

- Kampala has more booty on their women.

- There is an Indian population in Kenya but I have rarely come across them tbh. I guess if you act fine and pay there should be no problems.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mombie75. Much appreciated. This helps make things much clearer. Looks like Msa it will be! I was planning a trip late Nov. / early Dec but now it appears that it will have to be next year. Hoping sooner than later! This Covid is a brain fuck!!

I just learn that Kenya has decided to close borders for French citizen due to the high level of Covid we have now here.

Normally it should be for one month, same as in last March.

Could be the same for some other European countries as the Covid is also at high level in most Europe now.

I just learn that Kenya has decided to close borders for French citizen due to the high level of Covid we have now here.

Normally it should be for one month, same as in last March.

Could be the same for some other European countries as the Covid is also at high level in most Europe now.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2494508]
But for arrival they just looked at the mobile phone, without asking for my name, so I could have showed any other PCR test result, only the date and the result were interesting them.
[/QUOTE]So a copy and eventually a foto of the covid test should be enough?

Or is there a guideline the passanger has to have the original covid test on arrival?

Arriving Sunday and hoping for a delayed or light lockdown.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2497576]So a copy and eventually a foto of the covid test should be enough?

Or is there a guideline the passanger has to have the original covid test on arrival?

Arriving Sunday and hoping for a delayed or light lockdown.[/QUOTE]It's just what happened for me end of August.

Check official sites for current guidelines.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2497576]So a copy and eventually a foto of the covid test should be enough?

Or is there a guideline the passanger has to have the original covid test on arrival?

Arriving Sunday and hoping for a delayed or light lockdown.[/QUOTE]I had a pdf of the certificate on my phone and a printed copy.

They only looked at my name, date, and to see if it said PCR and Negative.

I made my own certificate, I didn't bother getting a test.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2497537]I just learn that Kenya has decided to close borders for French citizen due to the high level of Covid we have now here.

Normally it should be for one month, same as in last March.

Could be the same for some other European countries as the Covid is also at high level in most Europe now.[/QUOTE]
Please Check your Infos bevore you post here!

Today I check the -- Approved List of States and Territories Exempted from Quarantine in Kenya -- and all States from Europ still extemped from Qurantine.

Here the link for the Kenya official list (update every day) : https://www.kcaa.or.ke/quarantine-exempted-states

[QUOTE=Himbersaft;2497845]Please Check your Infos bevore you post here!

Today I check the -- Approved List of States and Territories Exempted from Quarantine in Kenya -- and all States from Europ still extemped from Qurantine.

Here the link for the Kenya official list (update every day) : https://www.kcaa.or.ke/quarantine-exempted-states[/QUOTE]Yes, I thought this post was not to be put online, and I agree totally, I had a wrong understanding.

So, no change for Kenya.

Sorry.

[QUOTE=Albert9989;2497866]Yes, I thought this post was not to be put online, and I agree totally, I had a wrong understanding.

So, no change for Kenya.

Sorry.[/QUOTE]The problem is apparently with the country of departure. France is limiting departure of citizens for holiday travel. Check it out with your ministry in charge of travel restrictions.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2497948]The problem is apparently with the country of departure. France is limiting departure of citizens for holiday travel. Check it out with your ministry in charge of travel restrictions.[/QUOTE]Exactly, borders closed here, at least for nationals.

Up to early December if not extended.

Booked flight from March to may. Connecting in Europe. My arrival is at night time just like Thailand. How safe is it to arrive at night time? Thailand the host left me stranded for few hours before coming out to security. Was a near nightmare.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2497625]I had a pdf of the certificate on my phone and a printed copy.

[/QUOTE]Same for me and it worked.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2498621]Booked flight from March to may. Connecting in Europe. My arrival is at night time just like Thailand. How safe is it to arrive at night time? Thailand the host left me stranded for few hours before coming out to security. Was a near nightmare.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by safe?

You will be getting off your flight with probably 200+ others, the airport is busy 24/7. Get an uber or airport taxi from the Airport to where you are staying. No problems at all.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2498621]Booked flight from March to may. Connecting in Europe. My arrival is at night time just like Thailand. How safe is it to arrive at night time? Thailand the host left me stranded for few hours before coming out to security. Was a near nightmare.[/QUOTE]How safe is it to arrive at an international airport at night?

LOL. Are you sure you're old enough to travel?

Thailand is one country that is known to be operational 24/7. Never sleeps Which province or farm did you end up in LOS where you were locked out and not able to check in for a few hours?

Thats what I meant. I had a scare in thailand when the host was preoccupied with a girl and never answered is phone for 3 hours.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2498759]What do you mean by safe?

You will be getting off your flight with probably 200+ others, the airport is busy 24/7. Get an uber or airport taxi from the Airport to where you are staying. No problems at all.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2499157]Thats what I meant. I had a scare in thailand when the host was preoccupied with a girl and never answered is phone for 3 hours..[/QUOTE]So you rock up to an airbnb and the host is not there, why would you be so worried about that? Obviously it is inconvenient but unless you are staying slap bang in the middle of a slum you are going to be ok.

Didn't know if it was a scam or what. Did not contemplate other options.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2499191]So you rock up to an airbnb and the host is not there, why would you be so worried about that? Obviously it is inconvenient but unless you are staying slap bang in the middle of a slum you are going to be ok.[/QUOTE].

If the owner is not there they usually leave the keys with security at the front gate or some person they paid to let you in the door.

In March, what's the weather like. Notice most airbnb have no AC. Will just a fan make it comfortable. Do you encounter fly issues.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2499647]If the owner is not there they usually leave the keys with security at the front gate or some person they paid to let you in the door.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500403]In March, what's the weather like. Notice most airbnb have no AC. Will just a fan make it comfortable. Do you encounter fly issues..[/QUOTE]Most of Kenya has no AC much less ABB! I can't even recall ever using it there now that I think of it. Guess what? They don't believe in window screens either! I can't recall ever using those either! HEHE! Actually Woodmere Serviced Apartments had window screens. That's another reason I like them. So bring you fly swatta! You better make sure your electric is paid in your ABB by looking at the pay as you go meter, or you will sitting in the dark wondering why your the only one, hehe! Been there done that. DOH!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2500403]In March, what's the weather like. Notice most airbnb have no AC. Will just a fan make it comfortable. Do you encounter fly issues..[/QUOTE]Nairobi is not hot at night as it is a bit above sea level so AC is not needed. As for mosquitos / flies, it really depends on the apartment, I've found some have them and some not. I always sleep under a net.

Hello,

I was planning a spontaneous trip to Nairobi before the curfew was tightened to 9 pm (bars) and 10 pm (general).

I wonder if there are any boots on the ground that can confirm (or falsity) if there is still some evening / night activity ongoing in Westlands and near by?

For example, are Brew Bistro and Black Diamond still open, or are most establishments closed now?

Thanks, P.

I am staying in NBO. Life goes on as always. Most people wear a mask on the street. I guess clubs and restaurants keep the new opening hours but since I generally don't go out much late I don't know this for sure.

[QUOTE=PeterStran2019;2500542]Hello,

I was planning a spontaneous trip to Nairobi before the curfew was tightened to 9 pm (bars) and 10 pm (general).

I wonder if there are any boots on the ground that can confirm (or falsity) if there is still some evening / night activity ongoing in Westlands and near by?

For example, are Brew Bistro and Black Diamond still open, or are most establishments closed now?

Thanks, P.[/QUOTE]No, normal bar / clubs they close per the curfew. Hotel bars can stay open though I believe.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2493989]I am 55 going on 22 LOL. I heard the same about the clubs in Kampala being very nice. Well true confession I am a cheapy charlie and managing this escapade through savings so I am not a baller and will feel every dollar spent when I get back in the USA. Can I get a 1 bedroom with good amenities for $700 or less for a month in Nairobi and Kampala. Which town would you say girls have the better bodies. Kampala or Nairobi. Anyways plan would be to visit both getting east african visa..[/QUOTE]Well if you like thick girls, go to Kampala. Kenyan girls are more Barbie-like.

Although there are some beauties on Kampala, they are hard to catch / find especially during this curfew time.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2501520]No, normal bar / clubs they close per the curfew. Hotel bars can stay open though I believe.[/QUOTE]A friend was just there and he said they just open earlier to get around that problem.

Is it long time. Can you get the east african visa from nairobi airport. Prices. Much appreciated for a response.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501803]Is it long time. Can you get the east african visa from nairobi airport. Prices. Much appreciated for a response.[/QUOTE]You can get it on arrival at the airport but only until Jan 1st, they are then going to be done online on their evisa site.

You fill in a few forms, go to the desk, pay your visa fee and that is it. Quite a simple process, does not take long at all.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2501803]Is it long time. Can you get the east african visa from nairobi airport. Prices. Much appreciated for a response.[/QUOTE]Yes its called EATV. Valid for RW KE and UG. For 3 months. 100 usd. But. Kenya will switch to full EVisa Jan 1st 2021. You might have to apply online. But be aware you need Covid Tests everywhere you go cost for each go 80$ to 100$. Rwanda requires TWO. I would stick to one country till this Covid-19 thing is over. Give it another year. LOL.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2493872]
Don't let Thailand quality misguide you. Seems the most fugly, fat rejects wound up there. I never seem such sad hoes than Africans in Asia.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with that.

There's no comparison in african girls between Africa and Thailand. Most of the african women living in Thailand are located in Bangkok, there are couple of discos where you can find them (Cm2, Mix, ecc.). Most of them are ugly and the few pretty ones (wich can't be compared with Mombasa-Nairobi women anyway) are so way expensive you can't immagine. They shoot 8. 000 to 15.000 baht at night wich is ridicolous, considering the shitty attitude you'll dealing with. In Nairobi you would never EVER give this money to a girl, even a young pretty'and'nasty one. In Africa they're not only more beautiful and cheaper, they're much more active in bed too.

Forget african women in Thailand and stick with the locals.

But I agree that it will be a far better experience to travel to Africa to experience an african woman. Thats why I am making the trip. Prices in thailand was 30 for 1 to 2 hours 60 for 12 hrs 100 all day. For most.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;2503404]Totally agree with that.

There's no comparison in african girls between Africa and Thailand. Most of the african women living in Thailand are located in Bangkok, there are couple of discos where you can find them (Cm2, Mix, ecc.). Most of them are ugly and the few pretty ones (wich can't be compared with Mombasa-Nairobi women anyway) are so way expensive you can't immagine. They shoot 8. 000 to 15.000 baht at night wich is ridicolous, considering the shitty attitude you'll dealing with. In Nairobi you would never EVER give this money to a girl, even a young pretty'and'nasty one. In Africa they're not only more beautiful and cheaper, they're much more active in bed too.

Forget african women in Thailand and stick with the locals.[/QUOTE].

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And the African women.

I can't believe it myself. But I jacked up Thousand posts. A milestone so to speak. It was now more than eight years ago when I embarked on my personal journey to the dark continent. Many adventures later I am still at it. I just turned 57. I'll never forget the day I touched down in subsaharan Africa in Nairobi International. The taxi dropped me in the hustle of Moi Avenue. Later I took my first chica out of black diamond cracking my african cherry. I paid 3000 kes. Days later I was on my way to paradise. Mtwapa. 2013 the place was still swinging. The ugandan pole dancers on the tables of kendas were gyrating to bongo tunes. Tempos passados.

I came a long way. Been robbed thrice by chicas. Endured the shits. Skin infections. VDs. Heat exhaustion. Dust. Sweat. Cold. Open Sewers. Terrorist attacks. Violent Street robbers. Cops on the take. Dingy cheap ST rooms with backbreaking matresses. Power outages. No water to shower. Ice cold showers. Bland african food. All untold suffering for sweet african pussy.

Africa is about endurance. Once you fall in love. That's it. Its for life.

Neddy.

A thanks goes out for this great forum to all adventure mongers on this planet. I consider this actually the best travel forum on the planet. May the mongering gods smile on you now and for all the post covid future.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2504491]But I agree that it will be a far better experience to travel to Africa [/QUOTE]Mr. Blakman,

I saw the pic you posted in Colombia. It was only a glimpse of you, but dude, you look in great shape! I have to tell you that your questions are quite unnecessary for Kenya, because you have negotiated a Spanish speaking country, and all the baggage that comes with it. I stay near Tijuana, and I don't want to cross the border for 20 minute fucks. The border drama ain't worth it like it was in the 90's. Nairobi will be cakewalk man. You just don't know how easy it is there. We have all told you over and over this, just go! And have fun. Make it even easier with a Tinder free account (or paid like me) and just have them come at your time. Are you going to be patient with my endless Colombia questions when I go there?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2506682]I can't believe it myself. But I jacked up Thousand posts. A milestone so to speak..[/QUOTE]Ned,

Congrats! You are admitting to the fact that we all cherish our post count. I found ISG in 2005, for my first foray in Kenya when I was working in Iraq. I should be at about 5000-10000 posts, but I work around government computers usually, and in isolated locations. I can't go to ISG when I want. Your truly the Africa czar. I tend to be stuck in the same routine (Nairobi pussy) when you have traveled all over and gave us the scoop. Thanks bro, and another thousand please, because we really need to know!

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2506682]And the African women.

I can't believe it myself. But I jacked up Thousand posts. A milestone so to speak. It was now more than eight years ago when I embarked on my personal journey to the dark continent. Many adventures later I am still at it. I just turned 57. I'll never forget the day I touched down in subsaharan Africa in Nairobi International. The taxi dropped me in the hustle of Moi Avenue. Later I took my first chica out of black diamond cracking my african cherry. I paid 3000 kes. Days later I was on my way to paradise. Mtwapa. 2013 the place was still swinging. The ugandan pole dancers on the tables of kendas were gyrating to bongo tunes. Tempos passados.

I came a long way. Been robbed thrice by chicas. Endured the shits. Skin infections. VDs. Heat exhaustion. Dust. Sweat. Cold. Open Sewers. Terrorist attacks. Violent Street robbers. Cops on the take. Dingy cheap ST rooms with backbreaking matresses. Power outages. No water to shower. Ice cold showers. Bland african food. All untold suffering for sweet african pussy.[/QUOTE]You have gone full Kenya Kimbo it seems.

My first trip was around 2002 or 2003, since that first all inclusive holiday at Voyager hotel I have never stopped visiting and living on and off in Nbo and Msa.

I have never had a problem with the Police or any locals in all that time, never been robbed, was sick once with a kidney stone due to dehydration with the summer coast heat. Now I am just getting all set my Christmas and NY month of getting balls deeps in some thick, slim, black, brown, juicy Kenyan booty.

I love it.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2506682] All untold suffering for sweet african pussy.
Africa is about endurance. Once you fall in love. That's it. Its for life.
.[/QUOTE]Congratulations!

Very true. Africa, Love it or Leave it.

Wish you many more years of excitement & satisfaction.

As I'm trying also.

( first set foot on black African soil in 1973...)

Just looking back at one of my first posts here.

Hi guys,

Anyone in Kenya at the moment who knows if they are still issuing visas on arrival? I read they'll only accept E visas from January 1st (no more VOA) I would like to travel next week but one site says the process time is 48 hours, another say it's up to 72 hours and another a week and it should be applied for at least 2 weeks before traveling a bit confusing. Thank you in advance for any advice.

My great shape and overtraining in the sun got me severe dehydration for 7 days. I have finally recovered and is enjoying a harden dick that was not functioning for dehydration. My physique does get me excellent participation. I have been on tinder for about 2 years. Countless nairobi and uganda numbers. My only concern evisa, apartmemts in nairobi, mombasa, and kampala. I like 3 some and affordable living.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2506701]Mr. Blakman. Colombia is s cakewalk. Many resources cheeap, average, expensive. Come to you or you go to them. Cheaper housing.

I saw the pic you posted in Colombia. It was only a glimpse of you, but dude, you look in great shape! I have to tell you that your questions are quite unnecessary for Kenya, because you have negotiated a Spanish speaking country, and all the baggage that comes with it. I stay near Tijuana, and I don't want to cross the border for 20 minute fucks. The border drama ain't worth it like it was in the 90's. Nairobi will be cakewalk man. You just don't know how easy it is there. We have all told you over and over this, just go! And have fun. Make it even easier with a Tinder free account (or paid like me) and just have them come at your time. Are you going to be patient with my endless Colombia questions when I go there?

Ned,

Congrats! You are admitting to the fact that we all cherish our post count. I found ISG in 2005, for my first foray in Kenya when I was working in Iraq. I should be at about 5000-10000 posts, but I work around government computers usually, and in isolated locations. I can't go to ISG when I want. Your truly the Africa czar. I tend to be stuck in the same routine (Nairobi pussy) when you have traveled all over and gave us the scoop. Thanks bro, and another thousand please, because we really need to know![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Taurus71;2508729]Hi guys,

Anyone in Kenya at the moment who knows if they are still issuing visas on arrival? I read they'll only accept E visas from January 1st (no more VOA) I would like to travel next week but one site says the process time is 48 hours, another say it's up to 72 hours and another a week and it should be applied for at least 2 weeks before traveling a bit confusing. Thank you in advance for any advice.[/QUOTE]Called Jomo Kenyatta airport and the lovely lady told me yes they are still issuing visas on arrival.

One has to do the covid certificate online anyway. But I understand some are reluctant to pay Kenya money by creditcard.

Colombia has el centro. Its a local area. Plenty of girls and locals gather to drink, shop, eat, and many girls sell their bodies very cheap for short time near motels. Its a nice option. Anywhere in nairobi offer same accomodation and options. Its a little dangerous but day time theres police officers roaming the area. Prime example sex and hotel for 30 minutes may cost $13.

Correction on the title.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2510375]Colombia has el centro. Its a local area. Plenty of girls and locals gather to drink, shop, eat, and many girls sell their bodies very cheap for short time near motels. Its a nice option. Anywhere in nairobi offer same accomodation and options. Its a little dangerous but day time theres police officers roaming the area. Prime example sex and hotel for 30 minutes may cost $13.[/QUOTE].

Is nairobi forum this dead. Or not alot of foreigners travel to Nairobi. Whats up.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2510471]Correction on the title.

.[/QUOTE].

I am a regular in Nairobi but do not know of such places, but they would not be the type of places I would look or ask around about to visit.

Sabina Joy a bar in town has plenty of girls inside and short time rooms on site I believe still, it was refurbished a few years ago and is not like it was some years back where it was set up for this in the mains.

Badoo, tinder etc is the way to go or just approach and talk to women and work out if they will be responsive to offers. Probably the best night time bar is still Black Diamond for quick and easy take out.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2511038]Is nairobi forum this dead. Or not alot of foreigners travel to Nairobi. Whats up..[/QUOTE]Kenya was never a forum like Thailand or Phils where they come in pages at a time. It's also a pandemic. Things change day to day throughout the world. I don't know, I personally think you ask many questions (which I have tried to answer) that don't fit the Kenya mold. Your in Colombia, and trying to make Nairobi another Medellin. No, there are not street walkers in Western Nairobi. Those days of Koinange street hookers are long gone There may be some in Eastlands, or around truck stops that cater to locals, but I can assure you, their quality you DO NOT WANT. Not many women will expose what they are doing like that in conservative Kenya, especially a safe area where you need to stay. The game is played online, in openly secret houses, and in the club. You already said you will be happy with staying in your room and calling them to you, which in this pandemic climate might be your only option. I can also assure you that there will be plenty for you on arrival with apps like Tinder, and sites like Afro Introductions, or just talking to somebody you like that you see- and no struggling with Spanish. Any one of those pickups will be happy to show you around. I also already told you that if it's open, you will feel like a BOSS in Liddos strip club! One shot for 40 bucks. They are 8's and 9's in there.

Thanks gunz

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2511134]Kenya was never a forum like Thailand or Phils where they come in pages at a time. It's also a pandemic. Things change day to day throughout the world. I don't know, I personally think you ask many questions (which I have tried to answer) that don't fit the Kenya mold. Your in Colombia, and trying to make Nairobi another Medellin. No, there are not street walkers in Western Nairobi. Those days of Koinange street hookers are long gone There may be some in Eastlands, or around truck stops that cater to locals, but I can assure you, their quality you DO NOT WANT. Not many women will expose what they are doing like that in conservative Kenya, especially a safe area where you need to stay. The game is played online, in openly secret houses, and in the club. You already said you will be happy with staying in your room and calling them to you, which in this pandemic climate might be your only option. I can also assure you that there will be plenty for you on arrival with apps like Tinder, and sites like Afro Introductions, or just talking to somebody you like that you see- and no struggling with Spanish. Any one of those pickups will be happy to show you around. I also already told you that if it's open, you will feel like a BOSS in Liddos strip club! One shot for 40 bucks. They are 8's and 9's in there.[/QUOTE].

I began texting a few girls that we crossed path from tagged and tinder. Never been to nairobi so we have never met. It had been quite awhile since I contacted them. Most responded and some was quite forward. My question. Is this An act or naturally their truthful character.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2512442]I began texting a few girls that we crossed path from tagged and tinder. Never been to nairobi so we have never met. It had been quite awhile since I contacted them. Most responded and some was quite forward. My question. Is this An act or naturally their truthful character.[/QUOTE]You will have a hard time to find a truthful character in Kenya.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2506682]And the African women.

I can't believe it myself. But I jacked up Thousand posts. A milestone so to speak. It was now more than eight years ago when I embarked on my personal journey to the dark continent. Many adventures later I am still at it. I just turned 57. I'll never forget the day I touched down in subsaharan Africa in Nairobi International. The taxi dropped me in the hustle of Moi Avenue. Later I took my first chica out of black diamond cracking my african cherry. I paid 3000 kes. Days later I was on my way to paradise. Mtwapa. 2013 the place was still swinging. The ugandan pole dancers on the tables of kendas were gyrating to bongo tunes. Tempos passados.

I came a long way. Been robbed thrice by chicas. Endured the shits. Skin infections. VDs. Heat exhaustion. Dust. Sweat. Cold. Open Sewers. Terrorist attacks. Violent Street robbers. Cops on the take. Dingy cheap ST rooms with backbreaking matresses. Power outages. No water to shower. Ice cold showers. Bland african food. All untold suffering for sweet african pussy.

Africa is about endurance. Once you fall in love. That's it. Its for life.

Neddy.

A thanks goes out for this great forum to all adventure mongers on this planet. I consider this actually the best travel forum on the planet. May the mongering gods smile on you now and for all the post covid future.[/QUOTE]Damn, we have the same age and I haven't been in Africa only frequented South East Asia but you sure placed it on the map for me. Especially your Madagascar reports are the whole package. You have a way to include historical, cultural, linguistic context into your reports. From Henry De Monfreid to news articles and historical backgrounds and local music videos. A thanks goes out to you. Keep up the good work!

I'm headed to Nairobi in Jan / Feb, first time, If anyone could elaborate on what's the going rate for street girls, girls from Tinder / Badoo and girls working at massage parlors.

Just a ballpark figure will do, I just want to go there and fuxk up the game by giving the girls too much.

[QUOTE=PimpGreen;2513289]I'm headed to Nairobi in Jan / Feb, first time, If anyone could elaborate on what's the going rate for street girls, girls from Tinder / Badoo and girls working at massage parlors.

Just a ballpark figure will do, I just want to go there and fuxk up the game by giving the girls too much.[/QUOTE]I spend more time in Mombasa but I do go to Nairobi 9 ften and I find.

I avoid street girls, not worth the risk of diseases.

Tinder / badoo it really depends on the girl. In Nairobi it is at least 3 k upwards, most will go for 6 k but some will not go for less than 10 k. Depends on the girl and how much $$$ she has at the time.

[QUOTE=PimpGreen;2513289]I'm headed to Nairobi in Jan / Feb, first time, If anyone could elaborate on what's the going rate for street girls, girls from Tinder / Badoo and girls working at massage parlors.

Just a ballpark figure will do, I just want to go there and fuxk up the game by giving the girls too much.[/QUOTE]When I left in Feb. 2020 I met girls from the online site I would give the girls 1800 to 2 k for all night in the morning I never discuss money with online girls I'm looking for a GF heheh LOL told them i want to see them again I would always say its money for transportion never took a girl out of black diamond or massage parlors I would also give the girls chocolate and some cheap perfume spray they really love that.

When I was in mtwapa I gave like 1500 to 1800 for all night just give the girls a lot chocolate they are real happy with that they love snickers candy.

I was due to fly out in the next few days but that has went tits up now with Europe banning UK flights until Jan 1st.

Oh, well. Mid Jan it will be then.

Hi Mombie,

When you say fly out, do you mean fly back home or fly to Nairobi?

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2513685]I was due to fly out in the next few days but that has went tits up now with Europe banning UK flights until Jan 1st.

Oh, well. Mid Jan it will be then.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Taurus71;2514974]Hi Mombie,

When you say fly out, do you mean fly back home or fly to Nairobi?[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am flying Dec 26 to Nbi. Ban has been dropped.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2506682]And the African women.

I can't believe it myself. But I jacked up Thousand posts. A milestone so to speak. It was now more than eight years ago when I embarked on my personal journey to the dark continent. Many adventures later I am still at it. I just turned 57. I'll never forget the day I touched down in subsaharan Africa in Nairobi International. The taxi dropped me in the hustle of Moi Avenue. Later I took my first chica out of black diamond cracking my african cherry. I paid 3000 kes. Days later I was on my way to paradise. Mtwapa. 2013 the place was still swinging. The ugandan pole dancers on the tables of kendas were gyrating to bongo tunes. Tempos passados.

I came a long way. Been robbed thrice by chicas. Endured the shits. Skin infections. VDs. Heat exhaustion. Dust. Sweat. Cold. Open Sewers. Terrorist attacks. Violent Street robbers. Cops on the take. Dingy cheap ST rooms with backbreaking matresses. Power outages. No water to shower. Ice cold showers. Bland african food. All untold suffering for sweet african pussy.[/QUOTE]Been reading you since months now. Best contributor ever. Keep it up man.

How long does it take to process. My flight is in March. How early should I do it.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2518057]How long does it take to process. My flight is in March. How early should I do it.[/QUOTE]If the last attempts of going full evisa is anything to go by then you need to do it a good week in advance. The site kept going down and now as it is supposedly 100% online visa applications, hence more traffic, it will not be any better I would think.

I would do it 14-10 days ahead.

Maybe one advantage is that not many people are coming to Kenya at present so that will help.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2518057]How long does it take to process. My flight is in March. How early should I do it.[/QUOTE]I've found they are pretty quick the last three times I had mine back within a day. I'd say apply for it about three weeks before you fly.

Do you guys know the names of safe but reasonable apartment buildings to stay in Kilimani, westland, or else where in or close by Nairobi.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2520223]Do you guys know the names of safe but reasonable apartment buildings to stay in Kilimani, westland, or else where in or close by Nairobi.[/QUOTE]You not find anything on airbnb?

I figured I would see what the members have to say first. Two minds most often better than one.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2520497]You not find anything on airbnb?[/QUOTE].

I am reading a lot about the Gambia and Kenya in the forum lately, as I am thinking of taking a trip in a few months, I have some questions about Kenya.

I found a post from 2004 "Sex Guide to Kenya (4th edition)" and it said this:

"completely out of the beaten track. You may go to samburu district, to such villages as: larata be, ndonyo wasin, ngilai. These villages are far from the main roads and samburu people over there continue their traditional way of living. Almost all the people, especially the ladies don't know their age. Only few men speak English over there, some more speak swahili, but big number of people speaks only samburu language. The ladies there go almost always naked from waist up and you will see their sweety boobs. They don't feel any shyness as it's their traditional "garments".

Once you get there you must find someone who speaks English, pay him and make him your guide. He will also be the one who will negotiate with the girls. The girls can ask you for just about anything: piece of soap, honey, mirror the use of money is somewhat limited around there. If you would like to marry a lady there. Nothing is easier. You need to buy 10 cows, which is for the dowry. Then your guide will help you to conduct a marriage ceremony. From now and on, the lady will be yours forever! No divorce from her side is possible. The girl is going to be yours for the rest of your life. She will never commit an adultery, since there is a very big taboo about it. You may build for her a small house around there, pay your guide to be her teacher of English and comeback whenever you like and have her. Her maintenance will cost you around 15 $ per month. She has to obey you in everything and she will never be with another man.

Ultimately out of the beaten track. You may go to gabbra tribe. There was very few tourist coming there, though the road is present and passable. Their girls has lighter skin then samburu and the dowry is smaller. Only 3 camels. They are harsher then samburu and the marriage ceremony usually takes about 1 year. But since you have got money, you may speed it up and get African pearl. Unlike samburu, there is no playing around. Either marriage or nothing."

I know it's old but I would like to know if any of this can still be found.

If I go to Kenya I would choose to go to places as it says here further away from the ordinary, then this that says that in these more remote places things can be exchanged (as the post says soap, honey.) this is still possible or this type of place is already in better condition and it is possible to use money.

I know it's old post but I would like to know if any of this can still be found.

If someone can tell me how it is now.

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2521232]I am reading a lot about the Gambia and Kenya in the forum lately, as I am thinking of taking a trip in a few months, I have some questions about Kenya.

I found a post from 2004 "Sex Guide to Kenya (4th edition)" and it said this:

"completely out of the beaten track. You may go to samburu district, to such villages as: larata be, ndonyo wasin, ngilai. These villages are far from the main roads and samburu people over there continue their traditional way of living. Almost all the people, especially the ladies don't know their age. Only few men speak English over there, some more speak swahili, but big number of people speaks only samburu language. The ladies there go almost always naked from waist up and you will see their sweety boobs. They don't feel any shyness as it's their traditional "garments".

Once you get there you must find someone who speaks English, pay him and make him your guide. He will also be the one who will negotiate with the girls. The girls can ask you for just about anything: piece of soap, honey, mirror the use of money is somewhat limited around there. If you would like to marry a lady there. Nothing is easier. You need to buy 10 cows, which is for the dowry. Then your guide will help you to conduct a marriage ceremony. From now and on, the lady will be yours forever! No divorce from her side is possible. The girl is going to be yours for the rest of your life. She will never commit an adultery, since there is a very big taboo about it. You may build for her a small house around there, pay your guide to be her teacher of English and comeback whenever you like and have her. Her maintenance will cost you around 15 $ per month. She has to obey you in everything and she will never be with another man.

Ultimately out of the beaten track. You may go to gabbra tribe. There was very few tourist coming there, though the road is present and passable. Their girls has lighter skin then samburu and the dowry is smaller. Only 3 camels. They are harsher then samburu and the marriage ceremony usually takes about 1 year. But since you have got money, you may speed it up and get African pearl. Unlike samburu, there is no playing around. Either marriage or nothing."

I know it's old but I would like to know if any of this can still be found.

If I go to Kenya I would choose to go to places as it says here further away from the ordinary, then this that says that in these more remote places things can be exchanged (as the post says soap, honey.) this is still possible or this type of place is already in better condition and it is possible to use money.

I know it's old post but I would like to know if any of this can still be found.

If someone can tell me how it is now.[/QUOTE]You know we live in the time from WWW, mobile Phone, WhatsApp?

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2521232]I am reading a lot about the Gambia and Kenya in the forum lately, as I am thinking of taking a trip in a few months, I have some questions about Kenya.

I found a post from 2004 "Sex Guide to Kenya (4th edition)" and it said this:

"completely out of the beaten track. You may go to samburu district, to such villages as: larata be, ndonyo wasin, ngilai. These villages are far from the main roads and samburu people over there continue their traditional way of living. Almost all the people, especially the ladies don't know their age. Only few men speak English over there, some more speak swahili, but big number of people speaks only samburu language. The ladies there go almost always naked from waist up and you will see their sweety boobs. They don't feel any shyness as it's their traditional "garments".

Once you get there you must find someone who speaks English, pay him and make him your guide. He will also be the one who will negotiate with the girls. The girls can ask you for just about anything: piece of soap, honey, mirror the use of money is somewhat limited around there. If you would like to marry a lady there. Nothing is easier. You need to buy 10 cows, which is for the dowry. Then your guide will help you to conduct a marriage ceremony. From now and on, the lady will be yours forever! No divorce from her side is possible. The girl is going to be yours for the rest of your life. She will never commit an adultery, since there is a very big taboo about it. You may build for her a small house around there, pay your guide to be her teacher of English and comeback whenever you like and have her. Her maintenance will cost you around 15 $ per month. She has to obey you in everything and she will never be with another man.

Ultimately out of the beaten track. You may go to gabbra tribe. There was very few tourist coming there, though the road is present and passable. Their girls has lighter skin then samburu and the dowry is smaller. Only 3 camels. They are harsher then samburu and the marriage ceremony usually takes about 1 year. But since you have got money, you may speed it up and get African pearl. Unlike samburu, there is no playing around. Either marriage or nothing."

I know it's old but I would like to know if any of this can still be found.

If I go to Kenya I would choose to go to places as it says here further away from the ordinary, then this that says that in these more remote places things can be exchanged (as the post says soap, honey.) this is still possible or this type of place is already in better condition and it is possible to use money.

I know it's old post but I would like to know if any of this can still be found.

If someone can tell me how it is now.[/QUOTE]Nothing has changed. Except everybody has a mobile phone. But not everybody has a smart phone. I have been to Maralal in 2017. To the east is the valley of the blacksmiths. They live in manyattas like 10.000 years ago. But there's mobile phone coverage now. Read "My Kenya Days" written by Sir Wilfred Thesiger. He was made honorary Samburu Elder. He circumcised hundreds of Samburu boys. A great honor.

Neddy.

If you plan to live there don't forget to bring your AK47. Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2521449]Nothing has changed. Except everybody has a mobile phone. But not everybody has a smart phone. I have been to Maralal in 2017. To the east is the valley of the blacksmiths. They live in manyattas like 10.000 years ago. But there's mobile phone coverage now. Read "My Kenya Days" written by Sir Wilfred Thesiger. He was made honorary Samburu Elder. He circumcised hundreds of Samburu boys. A great honor.

Neddy.

If you plan to live there don't forget to bring your AK47. Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

So for example in these places or in Maralal is it easy to find girls?

Here would they charge less than in Nairobi or Mombasa?

I see that you have a lot of experience in Africa, in Kenya the places that I mention or Maralal are good, there is another place that you think is good, I look for small villages if possible and as much GFE as possible.

Bamburi, mtwapa, nyali, or diana. If theres more please include.

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2521455]Thanks.

So for example in these places or in Maralal is it easy to find girls?

Here would they charge less than in Nairobi or Mombasa?

I see that you have a lot of experience in Africa, in Kenya the places that I mention or Maralal are good, there is another place that you think is good, I look for small villages if possible and as much GFE as possible.[/QUOTE]I have the perfect spot for you. Go to Mandera. Full of hot somali girls.

LOL.

Neddy.

Is this strip club worth viewing and are do they sell sex in the place.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2521862]I have the perfect spot for you. Go to Mandera. Full of hot somali girls.

LOL.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]OK perfect, he will keep it in mind.

Last questions:

1-Where are the rural areas, the type of houses made of mud?

2-In these rural towns, what would it be like to find a girl? I don't know if I ask someone, they can take it badly. How much would it cost to be with a girl here?

3-Do you think it would be better to take a guide and translate as well or in the village find someone who knows English and pay him to translate for me, how much would this cost?

Another option would be to find a girl, for example a mandera, a girl who is from a rural family and if we get along, let her take me.

If I decide to hire a guide:

4-Where can I find a guide to take me by car to rural areas? A guide to help me with the girls, who knows what we are going to.

I guess I would rent the car separately.

5-how much would it cost to rent a car, a car that can handle the roads and reach these more rural areas, rent it for a month.

6-And how much does a guide usually cost, for example 1 week?

7- or I could also have the guide for about 3 days at the beginning to take me and while I adapt the first days in the village and then I could return and if I need to call him, no?

Thank you for taking your time to answer me, the truth, I thank you very much.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2501504]I am staying in NBO. Life goes on as always. Most people wear a mask on the street. I guess clubs and restaurants keep the new opening hours but since I generally don't go out much late I don't know this for sure.[/QUOTE]Hi, you mailbox is full you need to clear some space.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2521849]Bamburi, mtwapa, nyali, or diana. If theres more please include.[/QUOTE]Diani is dead. Nyali, Bamburi, Mtwapa are all next to each other so its basically one place. Nyali to Mtwapa 10 minutes by road, Bamburi is in between them.

Nightlife is lifted due to the curfew but plenty women by day if you approach them, or use badoo.

Nairobi, mombassa, kampala, kigali. And Where will you find the most beautiful for cheapest price? Also i hear rwanda have beautiful girls so should i travel there instead of uganda.

I went to Black Diamond last night (Saturday) there was around 20 women in there all available I would say between 8 pm and 9 pm. 9 pm is of coarse kicking out time under curfew. I took one for 3 k.

Was the 3 k all night. Have you been to liddos or xs millionare.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2522691]I went to Black Diamond last night (Saturday) there was around 20 women in there all available I would say between 8 pm and 9 pm. 9 pm is of coarse kicking out time under curfew. I took one for 3 k.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2522691]I went to Black Diamond last night (Saturday) there was around 20 women in there all available I would say between 8 pm and 9 pm. 9 pm is of coarse kicking out time under curfew. I took one for 3 k.[/QUOTE]20 is more than I ever saw in February pre-Covid even at midnight. Things seem to have been getting better.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2520223]Do you guys know the names of safe but reasonable apartment buildings to stay in Kilimani, westland, or else where in or close by Nairobi.
[QUOTE=Mombie75;2520497]You not find anything on airbnb?[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]Several Abb's I stayed:

24568696:

My new go-to spot.

Very reasonably priced.

Completely girl-friendly.

Gated & 24/7-guarded apartment complex.

(the askaris will be cheeky and ask for 'assistance' - but not til you're leaving. So just say 'next time').

Walking distance to Kasuku Centre, where there's an overpriced Charlie's restaurant and micro-mall, and two matatu lines, one going to Westlands roundabout, the other to downtown /.

If a chick flakes out on you, March her right to the gate, where there's always 2 askaris, tell her to take the matatu or Bolt home on her own (money).

Bed is not as bouncy as I would like, but it'll do /.

Make sure to buy mosquito spray. Although no more than two ever got into the place, even one can ruin a night's sleep.

46061644:

Overpriced for what's offered, but worth it if you want to be *somewhat* walking distance to Sarit Centre /.

Completely girl-friendly. House is split into apts, only one family lives on the ground floor, but they and you have separate entrances.

Gated & 24/7-guarded townhouse complex. Mostly family-tenants, but I know for certain many of the houses are broken up into apts.

The street outside is being over-developed with new apt buildings, so not such a semi-private area as a few years ago.

Bed was nice & bouncy but looks like they changed the furniture since I was last there.

Not been to yet - 40080344:

Next on my list.

Supposedly "100 metres from Valley Arcade Mall" - I call bullshit now, but I'll give it a try.

Seems overpriced for what's being offered, but if truly walking distance the VA Mall, then it might be worth it.

Are these numbers direct to the owners, eliminating the need to go through airbnb? Nice bed, wifi, hdmi tv, security, allowance for more than one girl, and hot water is essential for me.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2522990]Several Abb's I stayed:

24568696:

My new go-to spot.

Very reasonably priced /.

Completely girl-friendly /.

Gated & 24/7-guarded apartment complex /.

(the askaris will be cheeky and ask for 'assistance' - but not til you're leaving. So just say 'next time') /.

Walking distance to Kasuku Centre, where there's an overpriced Charlie's restaurant and micro-mall, and two matatu lines, one going to Westlands roundabout, the other to downtown /.

If a chick flakes out on you, March her right to the gate, where there's always 2 askaris, tell her to take the matatu or Bolt home on her own (money) /.

Bed is not as bouncy as I would like, but it'll do /.

Make sure to buy mosquito spray. Although no more than two ever got into the place, even one can ruin a night's sleep.

46061644:

Overpriced for what's offered, but worth it if you want to be *somewhat* walking distance to Sarit Centre /.

Completely girl-friendly. House is split into apts, only one family lives on the ground floor, but they and you have separate entrances /.

Gated & 24/7-guarded townhouse complex. Mostly family-tenants, but I know for certain many of the houses are broken up into apts /.

The street outside is being over-developed with new apt buildings, so not such a semi-private area as a few years ago /.

Bed was nice & bouncy but looks like they changed the furniture since I was last there.

Not been to yet - 40080344:

Next on my list.

Supposedly "100 metres from Valley Arcade Mall" - I call bullshit now, but I'll give it a try /.

Seems overpriced for what's being offered, but if truly walking distance the VA Mall, then it might be worth it.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2523068]Are these numbers direct to the owners[/QUOTE]The numbers are listing numbers that you can lookup on ABB. Looking forward to your reports.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2521884]Is this strip club worth viewing and are do they sell sex in the place.[/QUOTE]This is probably the most well done strip club done in Nairobi. Strippers don't dance nude here BTW.

You can get a private corner / room for more entertainment and she can help you with what you want. Good thing about this place is that Entertainers (and not strippers) do not force you or haggle you to take them out later in the night, you can chose your pick and share digits and fix $ for personal entertainment at your place.

Girls are really good, plus dancers are not just Kenyans but from other nationalities as well (though all black). Good place to socialise too with your friends. Must visit, good ambiance.

Not dancing nude. Hmmn sounds like a tip and buy liquor guzzler. I do Like the idea of different nationalities. As long as I can avoid the bartenders ands the tips then I am there.

[QUOTE=WiseHustler;2523107]This is probably the most well done strip club done in Nairobi. Strippers don't dance nude here BTW.

You can get a private corner / room for more entertainment and she can help you with what you want. Good thing about this place is that Entertainers (and not strippers) do not force you or haggle you to take them out later in the night, you can chose your pick and share digits and fix $ for personal entertainment at your place.

Girls are really good, plus dancers are not just Kenyans but from other nationalities as well (though all black). Good place to socialise too with your friends. Must visit, good ambiance.[/QUOTE].

I am a decently looking guy with a nice built. Over the years I have stocked up on online dating and transferred these girls to what's app. Question. Whats the efficiency rate of meeting these girls in nairobi. Lets say 40 numbers from very good text interaction. How many will be readily available. I have stop communicating til I arrive. Which is a month time are so.

I am lining up my list of contacts for first visit to nairobi. One of my contacts said she loves sucking dick. And will suck my brains out. I immediately pushed her to top of the list. We video chat and she seem nice and sincere. Whats the odds she will be the girl she projects. Colombia tinder is so iffy. So what's the feel like in Nairobi and mombasa. Also a chick recommended shanzu apartments in mombasa. Anyone heard of it. Talk to a nice girl there as well. It was three girls in one room no ac or fan LOL. Said she like mombasa better than Nairobi. More free to wear anything. Any thoughts from members.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2523538]I am a decently looking guy with a nice built. Over the years I have stocked up on online dating and transferred these girls to what's app. Question. Whats the efficiency rate of meeting these girls in nairobi. Lets say 40 numbers from very good text interaction. How many will be readily available. I have stop communicating till I arrive. Which is a month time are so.[/QUOTE]A lot will be too busy to meet unless you are paying them well. To increase the chances of a meet you will need to uber them to you. Nairobi girls are a lot busier than Mombasa girls are expect a lot more.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2524575]I am lining up my list of contacts for first visit to nairobi. One of my contacts said she loves sucking dick. And will suck my brains out. I immediately pushed her to top of the list. We video chat and she seem nice and sincere. Whats the odds she will be the girl she projects. Colombia tinder is so iffy. So what's the feel like in Nairobi and mombasa. Also a chick recommended shanzu apartments in mombasa. Anyone heard of it. Talk to a nice girl there as well. It was three girls in one room no ac or fan LOL. Said she like mombasa better than Nairobi. More free to wear anything. Any thoughts from members.[/QUOTE]I know Shanzu but not those apartments, they could be anything really, Shanzu is a large local living area but it has two sides on either side of the main road. The beach side is very nice but the other side is where the locals live and by our standards it is very poor.

Mombasa is very easy going compared to Nairobi. You have to work to get girls in Nairobi where as in Mombasa most will oblige no problem.

I guess the girl will do as she says if she us getting the shillings.

That would be great if this is true. Just as good as Colombia but with natural and better bodies. How would you recommend spending 3 months. Place me in your mind. Like how much weeks in nairobi, how much mombasa, Uganda, or anywhere else you recommend. My budget is limited but I survive by cutting out dating and eating in. Money only to fuck.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2524588]I know Shanzu but not those apartments, they could be anything really, Shanzu is a large local living area but it has two sides on either side of the main road. The beach side is very nice but the other side is where the locals live and by our standards it is very poor.

Mombasa is very easy going compared to Nairobi. You have to work to get girls in Nairobi where as in Mombasa most will oblige no problem.

I guess the girl will do as she says if she us getting the shillings.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2524649]That would be great if this is true. Just as good as Colombia but with natural and better bodies. How would you recommend spending 3 months. Place me in your mind. Like how much weeks in nairobi, how much mombasa, uganda, or anywhere else you recommend. My budget is limited but I survive by cutting out dating and eating in. Money only to fuck..[/QUOTE]Very difficult to say. I much prefer Mombasa as it is quieter, has the beach, people are easier going. Nairobi is a city, its a pain getting from a to be due to traffic, Nairobians are more money orientated. Women are cheaper in Mombasa, they expect a bit less.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2524649]That would be great if this is true. Just as good as Colombia but with natural and better bodies. How would you recommend spending 3 months. Place me in your mind. Like how much weeks in nairobi, how much mombasa, uganda, or anywhere else you recommend. My budget is limited but I survive by cutting out dating and eating in. Money only to fuck..[/QUOTE]Very much more likely to get 3 k all night in Mombasa than Nairobi from bar girls but tinder and badoo you can find plenty for 3 k.

I never do all night, I just offer 2 k or 3 k for an hour of pounding.

I am a 2/3 hour guy. But 3 k for all night is a steal. But I get what you are saying. I have to do Nairobi initially then Mombasa. 3rd month most like be 2 weeks in Uganda. How often is power outages and does most airbnb have back up.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2524750]Very much more likely to get 3 k all night in Mombasa than Nairobi from bar girls but tinder and badoo you can find plenty for 3 k.

I never do all night, I just offer 2 k or 3 k for an hour of pounding.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2524883]I am a 2/3 hour guy. But 3 k for all night is a steal. But I get what you are saying. I have to do Nairobi initially then mombasa. 3rd month most like be 2 weeks in uganda. How often is power outages and does most airbnb have back up.

.[/QUOTE]You think you are ready to visit the african continent?

You will travel on Budget and ask for generators in lowcost apartments, very funny.

So here is the plan as it stands. I have conquered every continent expect for Africa and this will be my final trip. Then I will have had sex on every continent. And no Antarctica doesn't count.

I don't know if I should wait to fly into Nairobi when the travel restrictions due to covid lax a little more. Or wait until I get vaccinated. Here is the closest thing to a plan I have, which I am ready to spring into action at the drop of a hat. Get a hotel near the black diamond and go there on a daily basis to find a girl to bring to my hotel. From what I read online the curfew is in effect but girls just work around it and leave by curfew. So instead of being there from like 8 pm to 3 am for example they will hang around from like 4 pm-9 pm. From what I have read the black diamond is the way to go at least in person, I know I could get a hotel anywhere but ID prefer somewhere nearby. That is plan A. Plan be is using sites that I have read about like badoo. But I am not so confident that I can find a girl to hire as I have never used that before. Plus I have no idea how to find a girl on a dating site to hire. I have no other information on how to find a girl in Nairobi online in any other way and I am in desperate need of that.

Then for the second half of my trip fly to Mombasa and try to find a girl to hire there if I fail in Nairobi. The problem is I have no information on Mombasa. I don't know where to go, I don't know where to find a girl online. I just want to swim in the Indian ocean to be honest, so maybe I should just focus on Nairobi for the mongering portion of my trip.

Help with my plan is desperately needed. My biggest questions are about the black diamond. Are girls for hire still showing up there? Is it even open? Can I call them from north America and ask them directly about what is surely something they would deny having in their establishment? Is there anyone on this site who has gone to the black diamond recently in person and can confirm anything? Is there somewhere else I can go in person in Nairobi if the black diamond doesn't work out? How bad is the curfew affecting prostitution in Nairobi? And what about Mombasa? There has to be a site on the internet dedicated to selling pussy in Kenya. I am so close to my life goal of sex on every continent. Please help me!

I survived Thailand on limited budget, I survive Colombia on limited budget, I expect to accomplish the same in East Africa. So lets see how it turns out before judging me. I am notorius on Colombia forum for being cheap. I had an 8 stay with me for a week $15 day. I was fortunate or dick was damn good LOL. Anyways hoping to get more fortunes in Kenya.

[QUOTE=Himbersaft;2525069]You think you are ready to visit the african continent?

You will travel on Budget and ask for generators in lowcost apartments, very funny.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=DonaldDuck21;2525160]So here is the plan as it stands. I have conquered every continent expect for Africa and this will be my final trip. Then I will have had sex on every continent. And no Antarctica doesn't count.

I don't know if I should wait to fly into Nairobi when the travel restrictions due to covid lax a little more. Or wait until I get vaccinated. Here is the closest thing to a plan I have, which I am ready to spring into action at the drop of a hat. Get a hotel near the black diamond and go there on a daily basis to find a girl to bring to my hotel. From what I read online the curfew is in effect but girls just work around it and leave by curfew. So instead of being there from like 8 pm to 3 am for example they will hang around from like 4 pm-9 pm. From what I have read the black diamond is the way to go at least in person, I know I could get a hotel anywhere but ID prefer somewhere nearby. That is plan A. Plan be is using sites that I have read about like badoo. But I am not so confident that I can find a girl to hire as I have never used that before. Plus I have no idea how to find a girl on a dating site to hire. I have no other information on how to find a girl in Nairobi online in any other way and I am in desperate need of that.

Then for the second half of my trip fly to Mombasa and try to find a girl to hire there if I fail in Nairobi. The problem is I have no information on Mombasa. I don't know where to go, I don't know where to find a girl online. I just want to swim in the Indian ocean to be honest, so maybe I should just focus on Nairobi for the mongering portion of my trip.

Help with my plan is desperately needed. My biggest questions are about the black diamond. Are girls for hire still showing up there? Is it even open? Can I call them from north America and ask them directly about what is surely something they would deny having in their establishment? Is there anyone on this site who has gone to the black diamond recently in person and can confirm anything? Is there somewhere else I can go in person in Nairobi if the black diamond doesn't work out? How bad is the curfew affecting prostitution in Nairobi? And what about Mombasa? There has to be a site on the internet dedicated to selling pussy in Kenya. I am so close to my life goal of sex on every continent. Please help me![/QUOTE]Listen. No need for your elaborate plans. Use the search function. All your questions are answered there. We're not the red cross here. Do your research here. If you have any questions left you can ask them here or on trip advisor.

Book a flight.

Get off at the Daniel Arap Moi Airport. Mombasa.

Take an Uber to Mtwapa.

Take any of the countless guesthouses.

Smile at any pussy you like 24/7.

Get laid. Pay 1000 kes ST. LT between 1000 and 2000 kes.

No need to make a rocket science out of mongering.

If you're afraid. Stay at home and watch National Geographic TV.

Mambo.

Neddy.

Still sweating in Dar.

[QUOTE=DonaldDuck21;2525160]I don't know if I should wait to fly into Nairobi when the travel restrictions due to covid lax a little more. Or wait until I get vaccinated. Here is the closest thing to a plan I have, which I am ready to spring into action at the drop of a hat. Get a hotel near the black diamond and go there on a daily basis to find a girl to bring to my hotel. From what I read online the curfew is in effect but girls just work around it and leave by curfew. So instead of being there from like 8 pm to 3 am for example they will hang around from like 4 pm-9 pm. From what I have read the black diamond is the way to go at least in person, I know I could get a hotel anywhere but ID prefer somewhere nearby. That is plan A. Plan be is using sites that I have read about like badoo. But I am not so confident that I can find a girl to hire as I have never used that before. Plus I have no idea how to find a girl on a dating site to hire. I have no other information on how to find a girl in Nairobi online in any other way and I am in desperate need of that.Then for the second half of my trip fly to Mombasa and try to find a girl to hire there if I fail in Nairobi. The problem is I have no information on Mombasa. I don't know where to go, I don't know where to find a girl online. I just want to swim in the Indian ocean to be honest, so maybe I should just focus on Nairobi for the mongering portion of my trip. Help with my plan is desperately needed. My biggest questions are about the black diamond. Are girls for hire still showing up there? Is it even open? Can I call them from north America and ask them directly about what is surely something they would deny having in their establishment? Is there anyone on this site who has gone to the black diamond recently in person and can confirm anything? Is there somewhere else I can go in person in Nairobi if the black diamond doesn't work out? How bad is the curfew affecting prostitution in Nairobi? And what about Mombasa? There has to be a site on the internet dedicated to selling pussy in Kenya. I am so close to my life goal of sex on every continent. Please help me![/QUOTE]Black Diamond I was in last Saturday. I went from 7 pm to 9 pm, at least a dozen in there looking for money. You don't need to stay nearby really as uber is cheap. I stay in town and its only $2 max in uber. So BD, other bars, or the person to person street / mall approach is your way to go if your not going to use online. Badoo works for me in Nbi. No reliable websites in Kenya.

Sorry for the random question. What is the infrastructure like in Nairobi? In terms of internet connectivity and reliable power supply. I am a digital migrant and need a good connection for 4 hours or more at a time. I have been bumming around South America for over a year and feel it is time to move on. I have spent time in Uganda so should not be a huge culture shock. Discovering how much more expensive Chile is compared to Colombia or Brazil LOL.

And the price for the dumbest question goes to?

An excerpt.

Do woman in Africa have a pussy?

Whats the scientific proven rate of getting laid?

Do Africans live on trees?

Do they have broadband Bush drums?

Do the natives kill me on arrival and cook me in the big pot for lunch?

Do I communicate with sign language?

Do they have roads?

Is it dangerous?

Do they have power?

Do they know what internet is?

And the price for the dumbest questions goes to.

Do yourself a favor. Lock yourself up at home where you have broadband internet.

Don't go to Nairobi.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2525928]Sorry for the random question. What is the infrastructure like in Nairobi? In terms of internet connectivity and reliable power supply. I am a digital migrant and need a good connection for 4 hours or more at a time. I have been bumming around South America for over a year and feel it is time to move on. I have spent time in Uganda so should not be a huge culture shock. Discovering how much more expensive Chile is compared to Colombia or Brazil LOL.[/QUOTE]Internet can be pretty good these days. Just make sure you check it when you decide where to stay.

Power supply has got better too, do not see as many power cuts as the past.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2526040]And the price for the dumbest question goes to?Don't go to Nairobi. Neddy.[/QUOTE]That's OK Neddy, let the clueless remain ignorant, more pussy for the enlightened choco lovers, hehe! Nai will never get the millions of mongers that Thailand gets because everybody knows the lions will eat them as soon as they walk out of the airport!

[QUOTE=Blakman;2524883]I am a 2/3 hour guy. But 3 k for all night is a steal. But I get what you are saying. I have to do Nairobi initially then mombasa. 3rd month most like be 2 weeks in uganda. How often is power outages and does most airbnb have back up..[/QUOTE]I like very good looking hot bodies, and I highly doubt you will get that for 3 k in Nairobi without a lot of blowback- just saying. Those are Sabina Joy prices. I must say, you do prepare a lot for a trip because you have been probing for months in this forum. Are you going to help me in Colombia? I have spoon (breast) fed your many inquiries, LOL! Recall that I said to check the meter for prepaid power levels in your ABB. A good owner will keep it topped. I tried to be cheap once and got a cheap place, and I still regret it after 3 years. The nicer places have a generator.

Casas, data sites, strip clubs, lleras park, gusto, and el centro. Taxi take you everywhere. For $4 or less. Now that's real spoon feeding. Follow the forum it will keep you more abreast than this forum. I am a cheapy charlie and do great so you should have no problem.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2526371]I like very good looking hot bodies, and I highly doubt you will get that for 3 k in Nairobi without a lot of blowback- just saying. Those are Sabina Joy prices. I must say, you do prepare a lot for a trip because you have been probing for months in this forum. Are you going to help me in Colombia? I have spoon (breast) fed your many inquiries, LOL! Recall that I said to check the meter for prepaid power levels in your ABB. A good owner will keep it topped. I tried to be cheap once and got a cheap place, and I still regret it after 3 years. The nicer places have a generator.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2526045]Internet can be pretty good these days. Just make sure you check it when you decide where to stay.

Power supply has got better too, do not see as many power cuts as the past.[/QUOTE]Thankyou for the response. Nice to see rather than a snarky attack. As I am not retired nor can I pull copious amounts of money from my behind, I Travel and subsist by working online. When I visited Kampala a couple of years ago I realised that my kind of work was not an option there. Having been all over Asia and some of South America I wanted to see if it is possible to crack Africa.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2526473]Thankyou for the response. Nice to see rather than a snarky attack. As I am not retired nor can I pull copious amounts of money from my behind, I Travel and subsist by working online. When I visited Kampala a couple of years ago I realised that my kind of work was not an option there. Having been all over Asia and some of South America I wanted to see if it is possible to crack Africa.[/QUOTE]I have a friend in Mombasa who works online, he says he has great net connection. I am trying to get my job fully online and base myself in Kenya but its proving tough getting my employer to agree.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2526473]Thankyou for the response. Nice to see rather than a snarky attack. As I am not retired nor can I pull copious amounts of money from my behind, I Travel and subsist by working online. When I visited Kampala a couple of years ago I realised that my kind of work was not an option there. Having been all over Asia and some of South America I wanted to see if it is possible to crack Africa.[/QUOTE]What for you need to ask dumb questions? This is a monger forum. Not a forum for digital nomads. Stay in Cambodia. There's loads of pages:

[URL]https://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/isp-directory/Kenya/Nairobi.html[/URL]

[URL]https://qz.com/africa/1001477/kenya-has-faster-mobile-internet-speeds-than-the-united-states/amp/[/URL]

So think twice before you waste space here. Here you first RTFF.

Neddy.

The Standard sums it all up. Nairobis time honoured clubs are all but dead.

RIP!

[URL]https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/amp/standard-entertainment/article/2001401779/end-of-an-era-in-nairobi-cbd-party-life[/URL]

A mojo is an influential talisman, or magic charm; and with all these clubs gone, Nairobi's CBD has lost its mojo.

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2526906]The Standard sums it all up. Nairobis time honoured clubs are all but dead.

RIP!

[URL]https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/amp/standard-entertainment/article/2001401779/end-of-an-era-in-nairobi-cbd-party-life[/URL]

A mojo is an influential talisman, or magic charm; and with all these clubs gone, Nairobi's CBD has lost its mojo.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]At the top end of Koinange St near University Way I noticed a bar on street level that was jumping in an evening recently. I didn't get the chance to check it but maybe worth a look.

As stated, Simmers gone, F2 gone, the two on Banda St gone, Sabina Joy is a different place to several years ago. CBD seems to of gone down the restaurant / bars route but they are not the same. The CBD is finished unless you just approach what you see passing by or in shops etc.

Black Diamond in Westland seems the obvious easy option these days. I have read that K2 clubhouse can have women hunting but I've not been myself.

So today I spent a good 8 hrs. Texting girls from Nairobi and transferring them to whatsapp. 95% Efficiency. Majority was very nice. The question is will I get to see majority of these girls or will they discuss money. Are these girls regular girls that gifts will do. Or will this long list dwindle down to like 5 if I am not willing to part with $100 bills.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2527245]So today I spent a good 8 hrs. Texting girls from nairobi and transfering them to whatsapp. 95% Efficiency. Majority was very nice. The question is will I get to see majority of these girls or will they discuss money. Are these girls regular girls that gifts will do. Or will this long list dwindle down to like 5 if I am not willing to part with $100 bills.[/QUOTE]Most of them will come and meet you for food and drinks if you send uber money.

They are all looking for $/ sponsors / or gifts in Nbi, they all want a BF offering this.

If you make it clear its a fuck and go then 90% will have their price, plenty will price themselves out chancing their luck the punter is desperate for chocolate and has plenty cash.

I never do lunch or dinner. I offer my apartment or nothing. I flash my gifts before I come. Explain an abundance of time I am not a rich gringo. Curious to see what will be my success rate LOL. But I rarely divert from my strategy. Thanks for the info. Seems just about on target. What is nice. Most do not have kids.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2527380]Most of them will come and meet you for food and drinks if you send uber money.

They are all looking for $/ sponsors / or gifts in Nbi, they all want a BF offering this.

If you make it clear its a fuck and go then 90% will have their price, plenty will price themselves out chancing their luck the punter is desperate for chocolate and has plenty cash.[/QUOTE].

Lololololol, how do recommend a 'Reports of Distinction'? Brother Neddy does it again, in style!

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2526040]And the Prize for the dumbest question goes to?

An excerpt.

Do woman in Africa have a pussy?

Whats the scientific proven rate of getting laid?

Do Africans live on trees?

Do they have broadband Bush drums?

Do the natives kill me on arrival and cook me in the big pot for lunch?

Do I communicate with sign language?

Do they have roads?

Is it dangerous?

Do they have power?[/QUOTE]

Nice walk down Memory Lane. Farewell 'Mongerers' CBD', we barely knew ya. pours some pombe on the grave:

I wonder which will be the last club standing?

[QUOTE=Neddy69;2526906]The Standard sums it all up. Nairobi's time-honoured clubs are all but dead.

RIP!

[URL]https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/amp/standard-entertainment/article/2001401779/end-of-an-era-in-nairobi-cbd-party-life[/URL]

A mojo is an influential talisman, or magic charm; and with all these clubs gone, Nairobi's CBD has lost its mojo.

Neddy.[/QUOTE]

In Colombia, there's a go to spot when all fails. Boots on the ground area. Its in the local area, downtown Centro. Little seedy, safe in day time sketchy at night times. You sorta have to warm up to it. Its in a downtown area fill with young and old street walkers looking for quick cheap income. Short stay motels are close by. Even local strip clubs are nearby. Its an area with a variety of choices. But not the classiest. Sex is like $6 to $10 standard. Does Nairobi have a go to area like that.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2527713]In Colombia, theres a go to spot when all fails. Boots on the ground area. Its in the local area, downtown Centro. Little seedy, safe in day time sketchy at night times. You sorta have to warm up to it. Its in a downtown area fill with young and old street walkers looking for quick cheap income. Short stay motels are close by. Even local strip clubs are nearby. Its an area with a variety of choices. But not the classiest. Sex is like $6 to $10 standard. Does nairobi have a go to area like that.[/QUOTE]Sure. Its called River Road. Another excellent go-to area is Kibera..Full of hot broads. Let us know if you survived the experience.

Neddy.

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[QUOTE=Blakman;2527821]I do not know you but lighten up. Theres all types of stereotypes on these sites you find to be false or half truths or things that happens rarely. I will share a review, but I won't dismiss the sarcasm. Mombie or naked gunz chime in please..[/QUOTE]I don't know an area like that as it is not my style. I use badoo or the direct walk up to approach in the street, shop or where ever. If that does not work and my phone numbers of women don't get something over to me I just head to Black Diamond for the evening.

I am not sure if this info is still up to date.

If interested see topic " cheap pussy for 20 ksh".

In the Kenya section.

Says 2017 LOL

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2527858]I am not sure if this info is still up to date.

If interested see topic " cheap pussy for 20 ksh".

In the Kenya section.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2527874]Says 2017 LOL

.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's 40 ksh now.

[QUOTE=Zimzam;2527858]I am not sure if this info is still up to date.

If interested see topic " cheap pussy for 20 ksh".

In the Kenya section.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/entertainment/city-news/2000229002/bei-ya-jioni-where-sex-between-lorries-costs-sh20[/URL]

I am of Latin origin and I have brown skin, not white, I take care of myself and I am fit and I live in Europe, will I have difficulties finding non-professional girls?

[QUOTE=Blakman;2527821]I do not know you but lighten up. Theres all types of stereotypes on these sites you find to be false or half truths or things that happens rarely. I will share a review, but I won't dismiss the sarcasm. Mombie or naked gunz chime in please.

.[/QUOTE]Well despite the "advice" given by certain members I am all booked up and arrive at the end of the month. Maybe our paths will cross.

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2528056]I am of Latin origin and I have brown skin, not white, I take care of myself and I am fit and I live in Europe, will I have difficulties finding non-professional girls?[/QUOTE]None of that matters to African chicks -- well, except that fact that you're a 'mzungu' (a foreigner) which to them means you have money. That's all that matters to them.

The more brown you are, better show you're more ready to spend money -- that's all they care about.

The more fat or out-of-shape you are, better show you're more ready to spend money -- that's all they care about.

Being handsome, average or ugly, old or young -- none of that matters. Money is the 'good looks' they want to see, the sound they want to hear, the 'D' they want to bounce on.

What YOU should care about is avoiding the chicks that want your money, but don't want to give you their goods in return. Plenty of scammers and jokers out there, waiting for fresh victims.

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2521924]Last questions...[/QUOTE]Based on what you've been asking in different posts, it seems you're searching for one of two or both things:

(1) Hook / shag / sex a girl from a 'traditional' lifestyle, like from a village or small town.

Or (2) Marry such a girl.

Or both.

Keywords here are 'young' and 'village'.

If either is correct, then there are members in this forum who are or were married to Kenyans, so they can give the best advice. (Brother Neddy, are you one of these?

You just have to wait till they come back here to see you questions, and they will advise.

While you're waiting, know that most of us here do NOT have that knowledge.

In fact, my weak and probably wrong advice is that Kenya is not a good country for what you want, because even in the rural areas the traditions have really suffered to modernism, and even the most backward village girls, their parents, and the old-head elders know about Western ideas (even if they don't have the local context to truly understand what it all means). In short, it's not the 20th Century anymore, their traditions are dying (being killed), and their current way of life is tainted by modernism.

You might still find what you want in Kenya. I just think it'll be too much time, money and effort than it's worth.

Seems you got to go to more-traditional African countries. Maybe Gambia is one of them, I don't know.

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2528280]Based on what you've been asking in different posts, it seems you're searching for one of two or both things:

(1) Hook / shag / sex a young girl from a 'traditional' lifestyle, like from a village or small town.

Or (2) Marry such a girl.

Or both.

Keywords here are 'young' and 'village'.

If either is correct, then there are members in this forum who are or were married to Kenyans, so they can give the best advice. (Brother Neddy, are you one of these?

You just have to wait til they come back here to see you questions, and they will advise.

While you're waiting, know that most of us here do NOT have that knowledge.

In fact, my weak and probably wrong advice is that Kenya is not a good country for what you want, because even in the rural areas the traditions have really suffered to modernism, and even the most backward village girls, their parents, and the old-head elders know about Western ideas (even if they don't have the local context to truly understand what it all means). In short, it's not the 20th Century anymore, their traditions are dying (being killed), and their current way of life is tainted by modernism.

You might still find what you want in Kenya. I just think it'll be too much time, money and effort than it's worth.

Seems you got to go to more-traditional African countries. Maybe Gambia is one of them, I don't know.[/QUOTE]Married?? Are you nuts. I value my life and limbs. Unless you want to end up chopped up in a septic tank. Ask Tob Cohen.

https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/news/east-africa/inside-web-of-lies-that-led-kenyan-police-to-dutch-billionaire-cohen-s-body-1427360?view=htmlamp

You summed it up perfectly for all the noobs AGAIN. I can't be bothered to cater for all those lazy bums who don't RTFF and waste space with the same dumb questions all over again. That's why they don't get a reply from me, except a cynical one. I wrote the same shit countless times. One just has to use search function.

As for unspoiled village girls. I would look in the villages along the Lualaba, the upper Congo basin. There you have a good chance ending up on the breakfast table. LOL.

Neddy.

However 2 book recommendations for all the noobs out there how life is in a village in Africa:

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00B9CO4YG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_P6R36NMY03ENJ2ER8017

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08SKDS8KQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_EJZC95J0ZQYW7KFRY0DS

The links maybe not working:

Therefore again:

Nigel Barley, The innocent anthropologist: Notes from a Mud Hut.

A timeless classic.

Tom Boyes, The White King of the Wa-Kikuyu.

Although a 19th century classic. How to subdue a tribe and crown yourself king. Sort of. With plenty of women.

Stuart Laing, Tippu Tib.

How to carve out yourself an empire in Eastern Congo, subdue some native tribes and make yourself overlord over vast tracts of land in Eastern Congo. With your private harem and army of course. Nothing has changed to this day in North Kivu.

Enjoy.

Neddy.

Thank you all for replying.

I finally plan to go there during the month of March and part of April.

I will be a few days in Nairobi and then I will do the typical safari for a week.

And the rest of the month I will rent a car and go on my own visiting some towns, I will see if I hire a guide or I go alone.

How is the issue of security? Looking to go through not very busy areas or towns.

I will tell the experience soon.

And if I'm looking for something more "traditional" I'm not looking to go to a girls' bar, not getting married but something GFE.

Sorry for meddling, which would be the most traditional English-speaking countries with more traditional, more rural customs I guess the Gambia and Sierra Leone are among them.

I am normally a solo traveler and feel very comfortable that way. But I won't be closed on the invitation. Hit me up on revival.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2528067]Well despite the "advice" given by certain members I am all booked up and arrive at the end of the month. Maybe our paths will cross.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Rwenotmen;2528280]In fact, my weak and probably wrong advice is that Kenya is not a good country for what you want, because even in the rural areas the traditions have really suffered to modernism, and even the most backward village girls, their parents, and the old-head elders know about Western ideas (even if they don't have the local context to truly understand what it all means). In short, it's not the 20th Century anymore, their traditions are dying (being killed), and their current way of life is tainted by modernism.[/QUOTE]Too true, mate. I just spent over 7 years with an Embu girl, who'd spent a couple years in Nairobi before we met. After spending 6 months with her in Nairobi and a highly unpleasant carjacking and near shooting, I decided to head back to Thailand.

Brought her over a few months later. And although I'll say her blood ran thick with some strong Kenyan principles, not to mention Christian-imbued ideas, she was a good, loving, kind, and faithful woman. However, I agree, iPhones, WhatsApp, Instagram, and other technological 'marvels' have sucked a lot of tradition out of her generation. I understand it somewhat because they want to enrich themselves and help their struggling families, but it exacts a price when they see such gadgetry as more appealing than retaining the old values of their grandparents.

But such is 'progress.'

[QUOTE=CharlyUK;2528434]Sorry for meddling, which would be the most traditional English-speaking countries with more traditional, more rural customs I guess the Gambia and Sierra Leone are among them.[/QUOTE]The answer is simple: Malawi. They have the least tourists.

However, in any African country, get deep into the countryside and the world changes some. They believe in witchcraft and spells.

Why is it so advantageous to stay in Westland? Details please.

Can staying in a shared apartment without restrictions work?

Can you still get lots of girls without living in Westland or Killimani?

From my whatsapp interactions appears to be tons of girls eager to meet. Of course some scammers. Also seems easy to get threesomes. Is this just an illusion LOL.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2529402]Why is it so advantageous to stay in Westland? Details please.

Can staying in a shared apartment without restrictions work?

Can you still get lots of girls without living in Westland or Killimani?

From my whatsapp interactions appears to be tons of girls eager to meet. Of course some scammers. Also seems easy to get threesomes. Is this just an illusion LOL.[/QUOTE]Westlands is a decent area to stay. There are few decent bars in that area and two malls, so its convenient. Also easy to head to CBD (town) or up tp Ngong road for Kilimani malls etc. 3 some it will I guess depend on what your paying and what kind of 3 some, its possible of coarse.

You will get boatloads eager to meet but plenty will be busy in reality, again though if the money is right they will come.

Shared apartment I wouldn't, too much potential hassle. If you have your own then you don't need to think of others considerations.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2529402]Why is it so advantageous to stay in Westland? Details please.

Can staying in a shared apartment without restrictions work?

Can you still get lots of girls without living in Westland or Killimani?

From my whatsapp interactions appears to be tons of girls eager to meet. Of course some scammers. Also seems easy to get threesomes. Is this just an illusion LOL.[/QUOTE]Westlands is a nice area to stay if it normal times like over 10 to 15 bars and clubs within walking distance (curious to see how many are still open) I stay at hotel emerald for 60 dollars a night with breakfast in the morning it may be cheaper now due to covid 19 I think its a safe area to stay and enjoy yourself.

Evisa I don't seem to understand. I thought the cost for entry is $51. Do you also pay additional for it to be processed. Please help. Time is getting near and my comprehension is a little slow.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2529543]Westlands is a decent area to stay. There are few decent bars in that area and two malls, so its convenient. Also easy to head to CBD (town) or up tp Ngong road for Kilimani malls etc. 3 some it will I guess depend on what your paying and what kind of 3 some, its possible of coarse.

You will get boatloads eager to meet but plenty will be busy in reality, again though if the money is right they will come.

Shared apartment I wouldn't, too much potential hassle. If you have your own then you don't need to think of others considerations.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Slowalk;2528796] They believe in witchcraft and spells.[/QUOTE]Different, but not any weirder than western religions. Just not "normal" to us.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2529684]Evisa I don't seem to understand. I thought the cost for entry is $51. Do you also pay additional for it to be processed. Please help. Time is getting near and my comprehension is a little slow..[/QUOTE]I don't think so, should be $51. Use the official government site.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2529684]Evisa I don't seem to understand. I thought the cost for entry is $51. Do you also pay additional for it to be processed. Please help. Time is getting near and my comprehension is a little slow.

.[/QUOTE]I am slowly gathering all the needed documents for the visa but I understand it is 50 USD visa with a 1 USD process fee on the government site. I will let you know how it goes once I complete it.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2530012]I am slowly gathering all the needed documents for the visa but I understand it is 50 USD visa with a 1 USD process fee on the government site. I will let you know how it goes once I complete it.[/QUOTE]The total came to 52.79 USD with CC charges. Now to sit and wait.

I had a problem uploading the pics. Said size was to large. Any clue why that happen. And can you take a passport photocopy pic yourself and upload.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2530254]The total came to 52.79 USD with CC charges. Now to sit and wait.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530291]I had a problem uploading the pics. Said size was to large. Any clue why that happen. And can you take a passport photocopy pic yourself and upload.

.[/QUOTE]Well if you can read? The size was too large. LOL.

Ask tripadvisor. You waste valuable space. If you're not able to process a simple Kenyan EVisa you're not suited to taste sweet african pussy. Do yourself a favor.
Better stay at home and watch pornhub.

Neddy.

If I would have asked questions like that when I started out as a rookie back then in the forum I would have been quartered and keelhauled.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530291]I had a problem uploading the pics. Said size was to large. Any clue why that happen. And can you take a passport photocopy pic yourself and upload.

.[/QUOTE]292 k or near that is the image size limit. If you don't have photo editing software use paint. Use resize option, anything below 800 pixels on the longest side should be good.

I will see if that works tonight. I am trying to choose between parkland, westland, and killimani. Apartments.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2530332]292 k or near that is the image size limit. If you don't have photo editing software use paint. Use resize option, anything below 800 pixels on the longest side should be good.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530430]Neddy I am convince some newbie stole your girl and your forever bitter towards the newbie. Admit I can be a little slow at times. Then again at times I can be sharp as fuck. All love here man. But take some tips from true gent and mombie. Professional responders.

.[/QUOTE]I am not bitter. If you ask sensible questions which have not been asked countless times before in the forum which are monger or accommodation related I am happy to oblige.

99% of all questions are answered if you read the f forum RTFF. A question of picture resizing does and't belong to the public space. That's what PM is for.

The etiquette in this forum is RTFF first. I also answered Visa questions in the past. In fact I wrote extensively about the EATV. But only once. Thats where the search function comes in handy.

If you want to resize pictures which is a pain in the neck I use.

[URL]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobilephotoresizer[/URL]

Neddy.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530428]I will see if that works tonight. I am trying to choose between parkland, westland, and killimani. Apartments.

.[/QUOTE]Got the E visa today so 24 hour turnaround for me. I am in Westlands towards the CBD. Ill let you know what it is like on the 21st LOL.

Well thanks to my pal neddy. The picture sizing is solved. My next problem is I don't understand incoming and onward. Are the asking for arriving and departing or just arriving. In a addition. I need to choose an apartment to complete the evisa. Still wavering on parkland, westland, killimani.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2530601]Got the E visa today so 24 hour turnaround for me. I am in Westlands towards the CBD. Ill let you know what it is like on the 21st LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530598]<Well this question is going to fume you even more lol>

Is it safe to eat pussy in Kenya. Has the aids rate subsided. Can't wait for your feedback.
[/QUOTE]Now you're just trolling.

Tsk-tsk, not good etiquette.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530658]Well thanks to my pal neddy. The picture sizing is solved. My next problem is I don't understand incoming and onward. Are the asking for arriving and departing or just arriving. In a addition. I need to choose an apartment to complete the evisa. Still wavering on parkland, westland, killimani..[/QUOTE]Try Westland. 2 malls close by to meet people and a few bars there too.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530598]Is it safe to eat pussy in Kenya. Has the aids rate subsided. Can't wait for your feedback..[/QUOTE]HIV rate is 5-6% in women. To get HIV from licking pussy there will need to be several factors at play. You will need very poor oral hygiene, she will likely need to be menstruating and even then its still very small odds.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530658]Well thanks to my pal neddy. The picture sizing is solved. My next problem is I don't understand incoming and onward. Are the asking for arriving and departing or just arriving. In a addition. I need to choose an apartment to complete the evisa. Still wavering on parkland, westland, killimani.

.[/QUOTE]Just the ticket for your arrival and another image of the ticket for your departure.

You came through for me. I just need to pick a place. $1040 for a month ridiculous reasonable, or damn good. My budget was $750 with good amenities and decent area. I am a cheapy charley but require decent living conditions.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2530881]Just the ticket for your arrival and another image of the ticket for your departure.[/QUOTE]

The dating sites girls that don't ask for money but say they will come by your apartment and stay the night. If they are for real, when will they request money.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530940]You came through for me. I just need to pick a place. $1040 for a month ridiculous reasonable, or damn good. My budget was $750 with good amenities and decent area. I am a cheapy charley but require decent living conditions..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530944]The dating sites girls that don't ask for money but say they will come by your apartment and stay the night. If they are for real, when will they request money..[/QUOTE]They are certainly not coming out the goodness of their heart. Whether its before or after they will want money so make sure you know before the deed is done to avoid any problems after.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530940]You came through for me. I just need to pick a place. $1040 for a month ridiculous reasonable, or damn good. My budget was $750 with good amenities and decent area. I am a cheapy charley but require decent living conditions.

.[/QUOTE]I wanted to find a decent place for my first month so went with a well reviewed property in Westlands with unlimited internet. $720 per month. 1 bedroom and seems very spacious including a shower that is not over the toilet LOL. Once on the ground I will shop around a bit to see if I can get better.

I think the thinh over the toilet is just to wash your ass I hope and shower is just not shown in the pics. I hope. Keep me posted on luck with other apartments.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2531109]I wanted to find a decent place for my first month so went with a well reviewed property in Westlands with unlimited internet. $720 per month. 1 bedroom and seems very spacious including a shower that is not over the toilet LOL. Once on the ground I will shop around a bit to see if I can get better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2530428]I will see if that works tonight. I am trying to choose between parkland, westland, and killimani. Apartments..[/QUOTE]Parklands is really too far from a lot of good walking turf to check the place out. Killimani is the best option. Stay near YaYa so you can go to the ATM, grocery, restaurant, coffee to meet a chic before you bring her home. Kilimani is quick Uber or bus from in town going East, or Junction Mall. You need to factor in the horrible, horrible Nairobi traffic in where you stay, for your travels, and the travel of these women you want to come over. Best to stay near a busy road because they will take a matatu unless you send an Uber. Order in pussy is the most expensive. Just saying.

I have met some beauties on dating site and transferred to whatsapp. Dialogue have progressed without any mention of cash. I have a few scammers requesting money but I weed them out. Colombia girls waste no time requesting money when you mention coming over. So are we talking 3 k or 10 k. What's the average amount or realistic counter or gratuity?

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2531359]Parklands is really too far from a lot of good walking turf to check the place out. Killimani is the best option. Stay near YaYa so you can go to the ATM, grocery, restaurant, coffee to meet a chic before you bring her home. Kilimani is quick Uber or bus from in town going East, or Junction Mall. You need to factor in the horrible, horrible Nairobi traffic in where you stay, for your travels, and the travel of these women you want to come over. Best to stay near a busy road because they will take a matatu unless you send an Uber. Order in pussy is the most expensive. Just saying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2531533]I have met some beauties on dating site and transferred to whatsapp. Dialogue have progressed without any mention of cash. I have a few scammers requesting money but I weed them out. Colombia girls waste no time requesting money when you mention coming over. So are we talking 3 k or 10 k. What's the average amount or realistic counter or gratuity?[/QUOTE]I never pay more than 4 k, I aim for 2-4 k in Nbi. If a girl wants more than 4 k I simply pass her by, there is plenty women out there. In Nbi plenty will stick to their guns and want around 10 k and won't meet otherwise.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2531533]I have met some beauties on dating site and transferred to whatsapp. Dialogue have progressed without any mention of cash. I have a few scammers requesting money but I weed them out. Colombia girls waste no time requesting money when you mention coming over. So are we talking 3 k or 10 k. What's the average amount or realistic counter or gratuity?[/QUOTE]Depends on her looks, or her online looks vs reality, and your bargaining skills. Order a meat lovers pizza to come over and you find there are only a few sausage and pepp in that damn pizza! You been played! Its happened to me when I've been lazy. Got to hit the streets and stalk the prey, start your chase, and bring home the prize. Its pandemic, but the bars just open earlier to get around the curfew. Money won't be discussed yet by the smart chics. Your not even there yet, so why bring up cash? Especially if you have not expressed what you want from her.

I know your on a budget, but really if you're stressed about money, I would not stay long. I have met some really cool women that I'm still in touch with after 10 years because I eat with them, get drunk with, and laugh with them. They shag me, and go home with what I want to give that's not an insult. Pump and dump is more my style with hardcore pros like in Dubai, or women I can't talk to because of language barrier. Kenya women, for the most part, are not all like that. As many Kenyan women that I know, not one has asked for 1 pandemic dime. I can tell in your posts there really are some things your just not understanding, no matter how many times you ask. Africa is different than Colombia.

Naked Gunz mention ordering in is more expensive. But where are the places on the ground to go to. I heard of liddos but nowhere else.

[QUOTE=Mombie75;2531665]I never pay more than 4 k, I aim for 2-4 k in Nbi. If a girl wants more than 4 k I simply pass her by, there is plenty women out there. In Nbi plenty will stick to their guns and want around 10 k and won't meet otherwise.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone found a spa with Chinese girls in Nairobi, I have been mongering here for a year now and been looking to find a different line of girls. I have a great spa I use on ngong road with lots of girls willing to fuck each other ect and has been great fun there.

I saw a load of Chinese escorts got kicked out the country a few years ago, but surely with the vast number of Chinese here there must be some girls to fuck.

Let me know I'm keen to find some for tomorrow got the day off.

[QUOTE=Blakman;2531766]Naked Gunz mention ordering in is more expensive. But where are the places on the ground to go to. I heard of liddos but nowhere else.[/QUOTE]Try Black Diamond if you want a quick result 8 pm-9 pm.

I find my girls on badoo or the street when I'm out shopping or going about everyday business.

As I say, I tell them what I want, give my price and they either take it or leave it.

Mombasa is a lot easier than Nairobi.

Can you provide the name of the spa, price, and address. I have learn the map very well. Will appreciate.

[QUOTE=JamJamtheBamer;2531790]Has anyone found a spa with Chinese girls in Nairobi, I have been mongering here for a year now and been looking to find a different line of girls. I have a great spa I use on ngong road with lots of girls willing to fuck each other ect and has been great fun there.

I saw a load of Chinese escorts got kicked out the country a few years ago, but surely with the vast number of Chinese here there must be some girls to fuck.

Let me know I'm keen to find some for tomorrow got the day off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JamJamtheBamer;2531790]Has anyone found a spa with Chinese girls in Nairobi, I have been mongering here for a year now and been looking to find a different line of girls. I have a great spa I use on ngong road with lots of girls willing to fuck each other ect and has been great fun there.

I saw a load of Chinese escorts got kicked out the country a few years ago, but surely with the vast number of Chinese here there must be some girls to fuck.

Let me know I'm keen to find some for tomorrow got the day off.[/QUOTE]Further info on the Ngong spa will be good).

I don't think you be able to fuck a Kenyan stray dog in Westlands for 2 K. Especially when you open your mouth and reveal your American. Locals pay 150 bob in Umoja for destitute. Sabina Joy will get a good quickie for that price and I have seen some nice looking ones waiting in there. I tend to get very shapely feminine women. Just saying.

But you not giving any detail what you spend. I am not asking for your personal girls. Just asking on what you spending and timespan.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2532045]I don't think you be able to fuck a Kenyan stray dog in Westlands for 2 K. Especially when you open your mouth and reveal your American. Locals pay 150 bob in Umoja for destitute. Sabina Joy will get a good quickie for that price and I have seen some nice looking ones waiting in there. I tend to get very shapely feminine women. Just saying.[/QUOTE]

Might check it out. If all goes well with travels. I have enough interest on the dating site. But those are never guarantees. Quite interesting one girl ask me to bring her candy and souvenir. I was like really. Many show interest then disappear reappear show interest. Some will be in Nairobi and then in Mombasa. Lots of movements I see LOL. Some are very triple xxx aggressive. Love to see if that's real.

I missed your previous post for some reason. Let me read.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2532045]I don't think you be able to fuck a Kenyan stray dog in Westlands for 2 K. Especially when you open your mouth and reveal your American. Locals pay 150 bob in Umoja for destitute. Sabina Joy will get a good quickie for that price and I have seen some nice looking ones waiting in there. I tend to get very shapely feminine women. Just saying.[/QUOTE]

My post is aim to bring out different voices, opinions, and angles. I take bits or lots from everybody to come out on top. I am not here to text like I am a superstar. There's no superstar when your paying for sex. If I make it back home I am winner no matter how much girls I f**k. When I am done in Nairobi its off to another country. Not trying to make friends unless she's a wife. I delete delete delete and move on.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2531717]Depends on her looks, or her online looks vs reality, and your bargaining skills. Order a meat lovers pizza to come over and you find there are only a few sausage and pepp in that damn pizza! You been played! Its happened to me when I've been lazy. Got to hit the streets and stalk the prey, start your chase, and bring home the prize. Its pandemic, but the bars just open earlier to get around the curfew. Money won't be discussed yet by the smart chics. Your not even there yet, so why bring up cash? Especially if you have not expressed what you want from her.

I know your on a budget, but really if you're stressed about money, I would not stay long. I have met some really cool women that I'm still in touch with after 10 years because I eat with them, get drunk with, and laugh with them. They shag me, and go home with what I want to give that's not an insult. Pump and dump is more my style with hardcore pros like in Dubai, or women I can't talk to because of language barrier. Kenya women, for the most part, are not all like that. As many Kenyan women that I know, not one has asked for 1 pandemic dime. I can tell in your posts there really are some things your just not understanding, no matter how many times you ask. Africa is different than Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;2532218]Might check it out. If all goes well with travels. I have enough interest on the dating site. But those are never guarantees. Quite interesting one girl ask me to bring her candy and souvenir. I was like really. Many show interest then disappear reappear show interest. Some will be in Nairobi and then in Mombasa. Lots of movements I see LOL. Some are very triple xxx aggressive. Love to see if that's real.[/QUOTE]When I was in Westland all of the girls I met were online and I told them I was looking for a GF. We would meet have some dinner and go out for drinks I would give them some Chocolate and some female stuff as gifts. Would give them 20 to 25 dollars for transportation in the morning and tell them I hope to see them again. I never took a pro out of black diamond or Havana I think they would laugh at me if told them 20 to 25 dollars I had good success with the online girls no drama in the morning. I'm sure most guys give more than that if I was a richer man maybe I would give them 50 dollars most of the Kenyan women I met our sweethearts can't wait to go back. Kenyan women love chocolate also I on my last trip I brought girls female razor for shaving they really enjoy that.

I recall this post. The place I was going to stay got gobbled up. Scrambling frantic to get another that suites me.

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2532526]When I was in Westland all of the girls I met were online and I told them I was looking for a GF. We would meet have some dinner and go out for drinks I would give them some Chocolate and some female stuff as gifts. Would give them 20 to 25 dollars for transportation in the morning and tell them I hope to see them again. I never took a pro out of black diamond or Havana I think they would laugh at me if told them 20 to 25 dollars I had good success with the online girls no drama in the morning. I'm sure most guys give more than that if I was a richer man maybe I would give them 50 dollars most of the Kenyan women I met our sweethearts can't wait to go back. Kenyan women love chocolate also I on my last trip I brought girls female razor for shaving they really enjoy that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pcdilwj;2532526]When I was in Westland all of the girls I met were online and I told them I was looking for a GF. We would meet have some dinner and go out for drinks I would give them some Chocolate and some female stuff as gifts. Would give them 20 to 25 dollars for transportation in the morning and tell them I hope to see them again. I never took a pro out of black diamond or Havana I think they would laugh at me if told them 20 to 25 dollars I had good success with the online girls no drama in the morning. I'm sure most guys give more than that if I was a richer man maybe I would give them 50 dollars most of the Kenyan women I met our sweethearts can't wait to go back. Kenyan women love chocolate also I on my last trip I brought girls female razor for shaving they really enjoy that.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Your making my point. I don't know about the chocolate tho. It's a conservative country, not a Tijuana WG house. Geez I can't even imagine how mongering is there during a pandemic and curfew without a few contacts on the ground. I would think you have to move fast since the girl is either with you all night or ready to collect money and get the fuck out of there- bad service. Some pump and dump should be available in Sabina Joy, BD, Gypsy and Brew Bistro. K1 on Tue and Thur was always fun and lots of freelancer to choose from. Their probably demanding 100 bucks given there is no work. Some of the girls thinks their gap is golden!

Apart from tinder and afrointroductions is there any other that you recommend?

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2533026]Apart from tinder and afrointroductions is there any other that you recommend?[/QUOTE]Badoo has always got me my girls in Nairobi.

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2533026]Apart from tinder and afrointroductions is there any other that you recommend?[/QUOTE]I have pretty good luck with free sites like tagged, ok cupid, mingle2, and baddo I don't think I would ever paid a site like afrointroductions.

So I got a nice place in Kilimani. Very nice. $300 over my budget. I should apologize to the gentleman who said no way you can keep a cheap charlie mentality in Kenya but there's still time. Tonight I complete my evisa. Stacks of girls I been communicating with through the site and WhatsApp have showed interest to visit. I nip meet out in the but right away. The only option is coming to my place. I have learned most of the hotspots in Kilimani, Nairobi, and Westland. I am not into learning about restaurants. Too much money. I am bringing nice inexpensive clothes and candy as treats. What's my next move fellas?

So I landed yesterday after a 36 hour journey (make sure your PCR test is in English or your not getting on the plane). Decided to do some recon today. Took a trip to CBD to get some fish and chips plus checkout Sabina Joy. The place is far more pleasant than I was given to understand. Spent an hour or so people watching. I found maybe 3 or 4 that I would take for a spin but did not indulge. 1 Tusker was just under 240 Kes.

In the evening went to see Black Diamond (now with a name change but still BD). Don't go on a Monday evening. The place was deserted. I saw may 2-3 ladies in total and 2 other foreigners. The Uber driver tells me it should pickup from Wednesday and peak Fri / Sat.

Been lining up a few dates for this week but for a coffee to feel them out. I'm not hardcore, I like to have some chemistry. Plus I am here for about 3 months or more so no hurry.

Hey,

I really appreciate the report. Very good info that will help along the way as long as my evisa gets approve LOL. I got a very nice apartment in Kilimani and so I have been using it as bait. I hope things don't pan out like mombie says its capable of. But I can tell you I have been flashed with nudes on videochats for free and girls have said some very naughty naughty naughty triple xxx stuff to me. And Naked Gunz these are college and working girls with nice fresh no kids bodies LOL. But as you know. Could be different when I land.

[QUOTE=TrueGent;2534048]So I landed yesterday after a 36 hour journey (make sure your PCR test is in English or your not getting on the plane). Decided to do some recon today. Took a trip to CBD to get some fish and chips plus checkout Sabina Joy. The place is far more pleasant than I was given to understand. Spent an hour or so people watching. I found maybe 3 or 4 that I would take for a spin but did not indulge. 1 Tusker was just under 240 Kes.

In the evening went to see Black Diamond (now with a name change but still BD). Don't go on a Monday evening. The place was deserted. I saw may 2-3 ladies in total and 2 other foreigners. The Uber driver tells me it should pickup from Wednesday and peak Fri / Sat.

Been lining up a few dates for this week but for a coffee to feel them out. I'm not hardcore, I like to have some chemistry. Plus I am here for about 3 months or more so no hurry.[/QUOTE]