[QUOTE=Bedlam;1102948]It has been back in operation since the mid-end of November.[/QUOTE]Where is it? Do you have an address?
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[QUOTE=Bedlam;1102948]It has been back in operation since the mid-end of November.[/QUOTE]Where is it? Do you have an address?
With a condom in Shanghai. Enjoy it. Some will get you to come a second time with oral and their lips will never leave your dick.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1103334]I was wondering, everytime I go to a sauna in Shanghai and whatever sauna it is, when I get a blow job it is without condom. Which is actually great but now I a m starting to freak out. Do you guys use condoms or not? Girls always suck with listerine, do you think it's enough to avoid STD's?[/QUOTE]
Was 999 TianYaoQiao Lu &37038; &25919; &32534; &30721; : 200030 China Shanghai Xu Hui Qu near Shanghai stadium in XuHui district.
If walking down TianYaoQiao Lu away from XuJiaHui, pass the stadium, cross Zhong Shan Nan Er lu and 999 is about 200 meters on the left.
I am not sure if this is same address now.
[QUOTE=Whosme69;1103383]Where is it? Do you have an address?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1103334]I was wondering, everytime I go to a sauna in Shanghai and whatever sauna it is, when I get a blow job it is without condom. Which is actually great but now I a m starting to freak out. Do you guys use condoms or not? Girls always suck with listerine, do you think it's enough to avoid STD's?[/QUOTE]IMHO. You should always do cover to be safe.
Lots of girls in China have chlamydia but don't know it as they don't have any symptoms. If you have BBBJ, you should get yourself checked out even if you may not have any symptoms. Chances are you are already a carrier.
Chlamydia is highly contagious via BB oral, vaginal or anal. Good news is it's very easy to treat. Unless you knows specifically that you have chlamydia, doc will usually give you a shot (for gonorrhea) and antibiotics (for chlamydia) at the same time just to be on the safe side as their symptoms are exactly the same.
Guys,
I am not a new monger in shanghai. Been there twice before joining ISG. I am visiting shanghai next week for 3 days only. Last time I visited a place (forgot the name) which has Red Rope facility and the lineup was great to choose. It was a Hotel and they had the Spa (Red rope stuff) in the 4th or 5th floor. Can't recollect the name.
Need guidance where to go for a Nice Red Rope experience with Good Line-up of girls to choose. I Regularly do a complete study in ISG before going to any destinations. See my reports. But this time for this trip, I am running out of time to study the posts. Do not mistake me and please guide me (or PM me) a few places where I should look for (Red rope and Good line up). Same will be reciprocated in my mongering areas. Thanks for understanding.
Cheers.
SM
Just went to 999 and man. Its still goood.
[QUOTE=Bradwolftzer;1103565]Just went to 999 and man. Its still goood.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that. How long is the wait?
According to my own experience, Dickie Robert is right. I caught chlamydia a couple of times through BBBJ, be it in China, Thailand, or the Philippines. It is highly contagious, indeed, and in many cases the girls have no idea, since they don't necessarily have symptoms. When you get it, it means that your dick starts itching, particularly at the tip. Then, as the chlamydia walk their way inside, the urethra starts itching and becomes inflamed. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url] becomes more and more painful. That's the time when you latest want to see a doctor.
As said, the treatment is relatively easy. However, there are apparently already some kind of chlamydia that are resistant against the usual treatment with doxycyclinum (brand name e. G. Vibramycin, but there are plenty of generica meanwhile). You take 100 mg every 12 hours for at least 14 days. Don't stop earlier, since this bears the risks that the chlamydia become resistant, and then it's much more difficult to treat them. Actually, I usually take one shot of 200 mg at the beginning and then the 100 mg every 12 hours. This is also what the doctors recommend. Since it might not always be possible to reach a doctor (or you don't always want to tell them your BBBJ story. Anyway, they know that this is the most likely way to get chlamydia) , I always carry enough doxycycline with me when I am traveling. So far, it helped every time. Recently, I also needed treatment and visited the doctor in Europe. They had exactly the same treatment as I usually do. And with the same result: after 14 days of treatment it was gone. Actually, the improvement should start already after a few days. But. Depending on the kind of chlamydia. The improvement is usually not immediate within the first two or three days. This means also: start early enough and don't give up too early. I made this mistake once (under the guidance of an allegedly experienced doctor) and had an odyssey of medicines. Just to end up with doxycycline again.
Note also that in many Asian countries it is easy for a foreigner to get antibiotics like doxycycline without prescription. E. G. In Thailand or the Philippines it is no problem. I have not tried in China so far.
Wish you good health and. Doxycycline in case the bug hits you!
Wonderer.
BTW: I don't work for the pharmaceutical industry and have no personal benefit from the sales of any medicine!
[QUOTE=Dickie Robert; 1103485]IMHO. You should always do cover to be safe.
Lots of girls in China have chlamydia but don't know it as they don't have any symptoms. If you have BBBJ, you should get yourself checked out even if you may not have any symptoms. Chances are you are already a carrier.
Chlamydia is highly contagious via BB oral, vaginal or anal. Good news is it's very easy to treat. Unless you knows specifically that you have chlamydia, doc will usually give you a shot (for gonorrhea) and antibiotics (for chlamydia) at the same time just to be on the safe side as their symptoms are exactly the same. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wonderer; 1103723]According to my own experience, Dickie Robert is right. I caught chlamydia a couple of times through BBBJ, be it in China, Thailand, or the Philippines. It is highly contagious, indeed, and in many cases the girls have no idea, since they don't necessarily have symptoms. When you get it, it means that your dick starts itching, particularly at the tip. Then, as the chlamydia walk their way inside, the urethra starts itching and becomes inflamed. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url] becomes more and more painful. That's the time when you latest want to see a doctor.
As said, the treatment is relatively easy. However, there are apparently already some kind of chlamydia that are resistant against the usual treatment with doxycyclinum (brand name e. G. Vibramycin, but there are plenty of generica meanwhile). You take 100 mg every 12 hours for at least 14 days. Don't stop earlier, since this bears the risks that the chlamydia become resistant, and then it's much more difficult to treat them. Actually, I usually take one shot of 200 mg at the beginning and then the 100 mg every 12 hours. This is also what the doctors recommend. Since it might not always be possible to reach a doctor (or you don't always want to tell them your BBBJ story. Anyway, they know that this is the most likely way to get chlamydia) , I always carry enough doxycycline with me when I am traveling. So far, it helped every time. Recently, I also needed treatment and visited the doctor in Europe. They had exactly the same treatment as I usually do. And with the same result: after 14 days of treatment it was gone. Actually, the improvement should start already after a few days. But. Depending on the kind of chlamydia. The improvement is usually not immediate within the first two or three days. This means also: start early enough and don't give up too early. I made this mistake once (under the guidance of an allegedly experienced doctor) and had an odyssey of medicines. Just to end up with doxycycline again.
Note also that in many Asian countries it is easy for a foreigner to get antibiotics like doxycycline without prescription. E. G. In Thailand or the Philippines it is no problem. I have not tried in China so far.
Wish you good health and. Doxycycline in case the bug hits you!
Wonderer.
BTW: I don't work for the pharmaceutical industry and have no personal benefit from the sales of any medicine! [/QUOTE]They have a new drug out. Azithromycin. Take the pills once (4 250mg pills) and it kicks chlamydia's ass for good. You can get prescriptions at any western clinic or Chinese hospital here in China. For Chinese hospitals, you have to specifically ask for the antibiotics.
Here's to your good health.
DR
Can anyone comment on the cellphone policies in Saunas such as 999 / Bodi recently?
Like do they still require locking up the phone in the locker at all times, or the customer may use them in the certain areas?
I haven't been in Shanghai for months, and my "contacts" have either left or have changed phones.
you are right, dickie robert. azithromycin has been out for quite a while, and there are already lots of generica. however, azitrhomycin is more of a general (good!) antibiotics, while doxycycline is more specifically for the treatment of urethritis, gonorrhea, and similar infection of the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] tract. i don't want to argue at all about the use of either of them, since even doctors sometimes hesitate. in case it's not so clear whether or not chlamydia are the cause (even though most of the time they are, at least if there is no secretion visible) , then they prefer the more "broadband" azithromycin. if it is most likely that chlamydia are the cause, they might tend to the more specific doxycycline. on the other hand, azithromycin also tends to have more side effects.
here, btw. the explanations for azithromycin on wikipedia:
quote.
azithromycin is an azalide, a subclass of macrolide antibiotics. azithromycin is one of the world's best-selling antibiotics, [1] sold in the united states under the name zithromax, and under a variety of brand names and generic labels worldwide. it is derived from erythromycin; however, it differs chemically from erythromycin in that a methyl-substituted nitrogen atom is incorporated into the lactone ring, thus making the lactone ring 15-membered.
azithromycin is used to treat or prevent certain bacterial infections, most often those causing middle ear infections, tonsillitis, throat infections, laryngitis, bronchitis, pneumonia, typhoid, and sinusitis. in recent years it has primarily been used to prevent bacterial infections in infants and those with weaker immune systems. it is also effective against certain venereal diseases, such as non-gonococcal urethritis, chlamydia, gonorrhea and cervicitis. recent studies have also indicated it to be effective against late-onset asthma, but these findings are controversial and not widely accepted. [2][3]
end quote.
in any case, whatever antibiotics you use, once you have the bug, it's important to take the drug asap.
wish you healthy mongering!
wonderer.
[quote=dickie robert; 1103730]they have a new drug out. azithromycin. take the pills once (4 250mg pills) and it kicks chlamydia's ass for good. you can get prescriptions at any western clinic or chinese hospital here in china. for chinese hospitals, you have to specifically ask for the antibiotics.
here's to your good health.
dr[/quote]
Phone usage varies with the venue. I carry mine with me when I session. Hey, the girl knows I'm coming and she is ready. But I don't know about ALL venues.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1103854]Can anyone comment on the cellphone policies in Saunas such as 999 / Bodi recently?
Like do they still require locking up the phone in the locker at all times, or the customer may use them in the certain areas?
I haven't been in Shanghai for months, and my "contacts" have either left or have changed phones. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carage; 1103854]Can anyone comment on the cellphone policies in Saunas such as 999 / Bodi recently?
Like do they still require locking up the phone in the locker at all times, or the customer may use them in the certain areas?
I haven't been in Shanghai for months, and my "contacts" have either left or have changed phones. [/QUOTE]Bodi lets you bring your phone in. Last I heard. 999 won't let you bring in anything.
Just returned from 999. Excellent selection (I count 25+) , minimum wait, was there around 7:00 to 8:30PM. I was surprised to see my favorite girl. I was given the impression she left the business a couple months ago so I didn't bother to call her before I returned to Shanghai. I didn't carry my cellphone because I didn't see any other customers packing the cell phone in the little pouches. Talked to the girl about it then she said the policy is that if you call ahead, then you are a trusted customer, which means you will be allowed to bring your cellphone into the facilities.
Went for the double experience as usual, damage is still 1300. The manager told me that they just reopened on November 21st, so business is pretty bad because a lot of the old customers don't know they are back in business.
That is good for us because that translates into shorter waiting times. The girls told me the new manager is from Hailang (Waves) , and half of the new staff is from there as well.
Just returned from 999. Excellent selection (I count 25+) , minimum wait, was there around 7:00 to 8:30PM. I was surprised to see my favorite girl. I was given the impression she left the business a couple months ago so I didn't bother to call her before I returned to Shanghai.
Hi I'm weighing in for the first time, been a member for a month. Been living in China for almost 3 years, had a few interesting KTV experiences. But I'm living deep in the mainland (Henan Province). So I could post a few reports which I might but it seems most of the quality action is in Shanghai Beijing or Dongguan. Anything I could report would pale in comparison!
But thankyou for your info its hard (no pun) if your a single guy with limited Chinese so the forum is a good start for pointers. And next year I am thinking of moving to either Bejing or Shanghai, but am still deciding whic one. Any advice. Visited beijing a few times during the hols but I was banging a female collegue (american) at the time so didn't go out and play.
But I really love Chinese pussy man. Its awesome. But the spas in my city are a bit lame they're ok but it seems all the quality skirt go to the bigger cities to make more money!
Ok so my question is if anyone has the time and doesn't find my ques annoying. To be frank from a getting laid perspective paid or not. Shanghai. Or Beijing. Or is that to general a question?
Thanks anyway.
[QUOTE=Commander75; 1104265]Hi I'm weighing in for the first time, been a member for a month. Been living in China for almost 3 years, had a few interesting KTV experiences. But I'm living deep in the mainland (Henan Province). So I could post a few reports which I might but it seems most of the quality action is in Shanghai Beijing or Dongguan. Anything I could report would pale in comparison!
But thankyou for your info its hard (no pun) if your a single guy with limited Chinese so the forum is a good start for pointers. And next year I am thinking of moving to either Bejing or Shanghai, but am still deciding whic one. Any advice. Visited beijing a few times during the hols but I was banging a female collegue (american) at the time so didn't go out and play.
But I really love Chinese pussy man. Its awesome. But the spas in my city are a bit lame they're ok but it seems all the quality skirt go to the bigger cities to make more money!
Ok so my question is if anyone has the time and doesn't find my ques annoying. To be frank from a getting laid perspective paid or not. Shanghai. Or Beijing. Or is that to general a question?
Thanks anyway. [/QUOTE]I guess it really depends on your style and budget. I am more of a bang of my buck approach person, so I never really liked KTV / night clubs. I tend to see it as a waste of time and money no matter who is footing the bill.
If you are just looking into Japanese / Thai style saunas (aka soapy massage) places, I think it is safe to say Shanghai trumps Beijing by leaps and bounds. I was stationed in Beijing two years ago, and it was really hard (no pun intended) to find a sauna that offers special service. So I had to resort to room service, which is very hit and miss, and my wallet suffered in the process.
If you are looking for cheaper outlets like BBS, I guess you can easily find such parlors in both cities.
But from all the information I have, Shanghai and Beijing are all lagging behind Dongguan in terms of the "service" industry.
Two more pieces of info I got from the girls last night but I forgot to post.
1. Bodi has removed the glass window from the selection room.
2. 999 currently features fuzzy glass so the girls could identify customers if you are standing really close or have distinctive features such as large glasses or jewelry.
Um. I am not sure whether any of this really matters (regarding the whole fishbowl experience) , but maybe some customers will feel pressured to choose certain girls if they could establish eye contact.
Some people say the fishbowl effect is for privacy concerns, but somehow I never completely bought the argument.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1104391]I guess it really depends on your style and budget. I am more of a bang of my buck approach person, so I never really liked KTV / night clubs. I tend to see it as a waste of time and money no matter who is footing the bill.
If you are just looking into Japanese / Thai style saunas (aka soapy massage) places, I think it is safe to say Shanghai trumps Beijing by leaps and bounds. I was stationed in Beijing two years ago, and it was really hard (no pun intended) to find a sauna that offers special service. So I had to resort to room service, which is very hit and miss, and my wallet suffered in the process.
If you are looking for cheaper outlets like BBS, I guess you can easily find such parlors in both cities.
But from all the information I have, Shanghai and Beijing are all lagging behind Dongguan in terms of the "service" industry.[/QUOTE]Thanks dude, seriously, I know I'm a very junior member and many people see my question as a major newbie query, but your reply clarified a lot. Yeah I know what you mean about KTV, one canadian guy in my city is addicted to the place, but I digress, I just want to pay for what I want not play a whole song and dance routine.
Its ok, but in the smaller cities it really just a place to drink in my eyes, extra services are catered for by the hotels because its less expensive than the KTV for the local folk, and sometimes like I said you just want to get your fix and go.
I like the sauna, aside from the sex if you get a good massage it can be really relaxing and the sex and all is an added bonus.
So Shangahi has moved to the top of my list, Mainland China is hard on the social life, its very different no real regular bars or clubs to pick up girls maybe if you live in the captial city of your province as I struck lucky in Zhengzhou, but if you don't, man its a struggle. So after 3 years in the backwater I think the big city its calling me!
Thanks again Carage
Friends,
I am planning to do some hunting in Old Manhattan Bar, Could you please Suggest some GF Hotels (not very expensive ones) near the Manhattan bar.
Is this the current address?
Manhattan bar.
Add: 154 NanYang Road (near XiKang Road)
&21335; &38451; &36335; 154&21495; (&36817; &35199; &24247; &36335.
Tel: 6247-6656.
Can somebody translate this address in Chinese for me to show it to taxi driver.
999 Jiu Yuan (GOOD)
Address: 999 Tianyaojiao Lu (Xujiahui)
Thanks in advance guys.
Regards.
SM
[QUOTE=Sony Man; 1104526]Can somebody translate this address in Chinese for me to show it to taxi driver.
999 Jiu Yuan (GOOD)
Address: 999 Tianyaojiao Lu (Xujiahui)
Thanks in advance guys.
Regards.
SM[/QUOTE]&22825; &38053; &26725; &36335; 999&21495; &65288; &24464; &23478; &27719; &22825; &38053; &26725; &36335; &36807; &20013; &23665; &21335; &20108; &36335; &39640; &26550; &65289;
Good morning guys,
I'm new here, but I'm living in Shanghai more than 3 years.
I made some experiences, from robbed to be in love.
I just want to show you my last experience in a massage saloon at the corner Wuding Road, Xikang Road.
There are some girls waiting inside, I had an eye on it for almost a month.
I walked by last Saturday noon, one of the girls was smiling to me, so I want to be nice and I smiled back. She came out and asked me if I like to have a massage. OK, I thought why not.
I stepped In and she brought me together with another girl in a hidden room.
I asked "how much" I think that's the only question she understood in English.
She showed me one finger, means 100.
100 OK, than she pointed to her "friend" means 100 each, OK, why not.
Some seconds later another girl came in.
OK. 300.
Than she showed mi on her watch something, I understood longer time and naked massage from the girls.
200 each. OK,
Some seconds later another girl came in.
Means another 200. I tried to show them some resist but 4 nice girls, why not.
It was not a real massage, but 4 nice girls working on my little Jonny, that was not a bad experience. Everything.
I will come back again, but next time I want to save some money.
The lowest price for a nice happy end might be 100 RMB,
Good luck.
Burdy007
[QUOTE=Sony Man; 1104526]Friends,
I am planning to do some hunting in Old Manhattan Bar, Could you please Suggest some GF Hotels (not very expensive ones) near the Manhattan bar.
Is this the current address?
Manhattan bar.
Add: 154 NanYang Road (near XiKang Road)
&21335; &38451; &36335; 154&21495; (&36817; &35199; &24247; &36335.
Tel: 6247-6656.
Can somebody translate this address in Chinese for me to show it to taxi driver.
999 Jiu Yuan (GOOD)
Address: 999 Tianyaojiao Lu (Xujiahui)
Thanks in advance guys.
Regards.
SM[/QUOTE]There is a service named Guanxi that will give you addresses in english and in Chinese. Just send text message with the name of the restaurant, bar, office building etc. Where you want to go and shortly you will receive the address in english, do a reply with only the letter 'see' and shortly you will receive the same address in Chinese. Guanxi's number is 10 %669 *588 _29_29 Remove all the non-numbers to use it.
ES
Most bbs will do you HJ for 50 quite easily. Paying 100 is fine but for 200 they need to be getting naked, letting me touch them anywhere and take their time. The extra girl routine is kinda frustrating after a while because they are persistent but a quick 'I'm leaving' motion usually stops them fast.
[QUOTE=Burdy007; 1104568]Good morning guys,
I'm new here, but I'm living in Shanghai more than 3 years.
I made some experiences, from robbed to be in love.
I just want to show you my last experience in a massage saloon at the corner Wuding Road, Xikang Road.
There are some girls waiting inside, I had an eye on it for almost a month.
I walked by last Saturday noon, one of the girls was smiling to me, so I want to be nice and I smiled back. She came out and asked me if I like to have a massage. OK, I thought why not.
I stepped In and she brought me together with another girl in a hidden room.
I asked "how much" I think that's the only question she understood in English.
She showed me one finger, means 100.
100 OK, than she pointed to her "friend" means 100 each, OK, why not.
Some seconds later another girl came in.
OK. 300.
Than she showed mi on her watch something, I understood longer time and naked massage from the girls.
200 each. OK,
Some seconds later another girl came in.
Means another 200. I tried to show them some resist but 4 nice girls, why not.
It was not a real massage, but 4 nice girls working on my little Jonny, that was not a bad experience. Everything.
I will come back again, but next time I want to save some money.
The lowest price for a nice happy end might be 100 RMB,
Good luck.
Burdy007[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I will be in Pudong, Shanghai next January, staying in around Xin Jin Qiao Road. Anyone familiar with this area please advise where to look for WGs, or MPs, or outcall services. I like tall and busted, young and pretty.
Thanks in advance!
Note there are 2 places:
1- "Old Manhattan Bar" is a buy me drink girly bar across from the Hilton.
2. "Manhattans" is the more popular place where you can get a girl to take home,
And yes it is still at 154 NanYang Lu
Guys,
Now I am totally confused. Manhattans or Old Manhattan Bar. What's your suggestion? Where can we find more girls (pretty ones) to take to room. And which bar is in which address? Totally confused. Please help me out. Thanks in advance.
Regards.
SM
Anybody who has ever read Shanghai Daily's classifieds would probably see some irony in this piece recently from the same newspaper.
[quote][b][u]Sex websites turn to English to escape watchdogs[/b][/u]
AS pornographic websites gradually disappear thanks to China's anti-porn campaigns, some are surviving by using only English to hide their activities from the attention of Internet watchdogs.
These English-language websites offer door-to-door prostitution services and especially target foreigners.
Typing "Shanghai Massage" into Internet search engines can reveal a list of websites written in quite fluent English in a bid to avoid being spotted by the country's Internet watchdogs, who usually focus on tracking Chinese websites.
Many say on the front pages that they are offering legitimate massage services, but galleries of pictures of their masseuses seem to indicate something more than just massage. All the masseuses are young and half-naked Chinese girls with perfect bodies. And customers are told they can choose them to be their "companions in the lonely city."
A telephone number is often listed on the front page of the websites, offering an around-the clock service. But the customer service staff only speak English and only take calls from English-speaking customers to avoid being questioned by Chinese Internet watchdogs.
When a Shanghai Daily reporter, posing as a foreign visitor, phoned one company, calling itself "Sweet Massage," a manager said they could send 22-year-old Chinese escort girls, who can speak fluent English, to the customer's home or hotel for all kinds of sexual services.
"We have younger girls. 17 or 18, but the 22-year-old girls are most mature and playful," said the manager, who refused to give her name.
According to the manager, the price is 1, 000 yuan (US$150) for each girl, but customers could pay 1, 800 yuan for two girls for "double fun." The girls could be "delivered" to the customer in about 30 to 45 minutes in Shanghai, depending on the location, she said.
By paying extra, the customers could even choose not to wear a condom."You don't have to worry about venereal diseases as our girls take regular health checks every month," the manager said.
But when the reporter called back soon after seeking sexual services but speaking Mandarin instead of English, she said that they only offered massage services and hung up.
According to Sweet Massage's website, its services are available in Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen and Guangzhou, but they only do business by telephone, sending girls to customers' homes and hotels because they do not have a massage center.
An official with the China Internet Illegal Information Reporting Center told Shanghai Daily that it would investigate the website and shut it down if they found evidence it was running an illegal business.
Last month, the center received 18, 710 reports from the public about illegal websites. 52. 6 percent of them involving pornographic content.[/quote]
Manhattans 154 Nanyang lu near Xikang Lu. For picking up easily. No need to be a player to pick up, these girls are working.
[QUOTE=Sony Man; 1104946]Guys,
Now I am totally confused. Manhattans or Old Manhattan Bar. What's your suggestion? Where can we find more girls (pretty ones) to take to room. And which bar is in which address? Totally confused. Please help me out. Thanks in advance.
Regards.
SM[/QUOTE]Looks pretty clear to me:
OLD Manhattan make you spend a lot of money in drinks. Usually poor venues for pick up's.
(the new) Manhattan lets you find the girl to take home.
First time report so I hope that it is up to standards of all the others on this thread. We finished up our Christmas party last night and was walking from the bar in Jia Shan market. As I was walking up the street I noticed a massage parlour on Jiashan lu just south of yong jia lu, several attractive ladies sitting around in the lobby but a much higher class place than most of the previous parlours in my neighborhood prior to the crackdown in shanghai. Walked in, was led upstairs by an attractive young thing in very short skirt and fuck me heels. Went into a fairly nice room with bed for massage and a nice shower, room was clean and warm. Took a shower, laid down on the bed, in she came, really good massage, massaging all the right parts. (personally I prefer a good massage and HJ) no up selling, no extra girls (where the massage is quite disjointed) , just a good massage. It is great to know that this service is in my neighborhood. Will go back for a rub and a tug when the urge happens. Price I think it was 238 rmb
I've been curious about Manhattans for awhile, especially after reading about some good reports, so I decided to head there for the first time. I arrived 12AM and place was pretty packed. I've little to no experience in SH regarding bars / clubs, but I must say the quality was pretty poor. Did not see any stunners and quite a few that were "not-even-if-they-paid-me". A few bar-top dancers looked decent, but it could have been the images my mind conjures up when seeing a girl who knows how to move her body, plus the alchohol. I wasn't sure if they were available for take-out.
I was approached a few times by some viet girls. I bought them a few drinks, but wasn't really interested in taking any of them home. I ended up leaving disappointed and empty-handed. I'll give the place a couple more chances. Perhaps a Bar Veteran can chime in?
Did I arrive too late? (It was difficult to navigate and find a spot to sit when I first arrived). Is it better to wander around the place scoping out the women or sit and wait to be approached? Are the girls who dance on-top of the bar available to take home? And any other bar mongering tips you may think are helpful.
Apologizes to the forum members for the stupid questions. I've a lot more experience with the Saunas (most know me by name, but I'm not sure if that's a good thing).
Should be back to normal by Monday, according to locker room staff.
Went there today and spent $490 on back scrubs from a man (!) and mediocre massages in the rest area. Never saw the second floor.
You say Bodi will be back to normal on Monday. Was it raided? I was there on Wednesday around 2pm. AWESOME service. 35+ line up without glass. Felt like I could just reach out and touch the girls. Sexy outfits. Took myself a cute one with a tiny waist. Pumped her hard for 15 minutes or so before releasing. Will return.
Jiashan lu. Also right in the same area on jiashan lu, just north of yong jia lu (next to a China mobile shop) is what looks like a foot massage place but the 6-8 girls are wearing sexy clothes. I got a bad foot massage and upsale for more. I picked a girl for more, and was led up a small ladder / stairs to a small room with only a bed / table. Price was quoted as 300rmb for FS and I didn't negotiate. Place was a little to shabby for my normal needs, but for a quick cheap release, it will do.
Manhattans. Midnight to 2am is primetime, unless its Sunday, Monday or Tuesday. True not many stunners, but there is always something decent. You need to walk around a bit to see the girls in the back. Only the most aggressive girls will approach you, normally you'll need speak 1st or send a signal. If you can't find something I would say you're too picky. The girls doing a dance routine on top of the bar are employees, so not available for immediate take out. Sometimes drunk FL do get up there.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1104421]Two more pieces of info I got from the girls last night but I forgot to post.
1. Bodi has removed the glass window from the selection room.
2. 999 currently features fuzzy glass so the girls could identify customers if you are standing really close or have distinctive features such as large glasses or jewelry.
Um. I am not sure whether any of this really matters (regarding the whole fishbowl experience) , but maybe some customers will feel pressured to choose certain girls if they could establish eye contact.
Some people say the fishbowl effect is for privacy concerns, but somehow I never completely bought the argument. [/QUOTE]Hey Guys,
Coming back to Shanghai soon, whats the damage and how much time do you get here?
PC out
Hi Guys, Trust you had a good Christmas.
Just a question, are the opportunities or choices for girls at the Heting etc less during the Lunar New Year? If, so how long is the break? Planning on a transit in Shanghai in Feb.
Thanks for your answers.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1106108]Hey Guys,
Coming back to Shanghai soon, whats the damage and how much time do you get here?
PC out[/QUOTE]Damage: 700 800 for single girl. 1300 1400 for two girls. Can't remember the exact numbers and sometimes they run discounts for multiple girls. Never bothered to ask the price for 3 or more. Discounts may exist for leaving before 7PM.
Time: Depends on customer flow can range anywhere between 45 min to 75 min.
[QUOTE=Fellow111; 1106132]Hi Guys, Trust you had a good Christmas.
Just a question, are the opportunities or choices for girls at the Heting etc less during the Lunar New Year? If, so how long is the break? Planning on a transit in Shanghai in Feb.
Thanks for your answers. [/QUOTE]Judging by experience more than half of the girls return home during CNY. The ones that stay are usually not that good. I went to 999 once during CNY period and was faced with a single digit lineup.
I am looking for any suggestions for Busty attendants. The bustier the better. Coming from the US and have always favored large breasts.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Carage;1106166]Judging by experience more than half of the girls return home during CNY. The ones that stay are usually not that good. I went to 999 once during CNY period and was faced with a single digit lineup.[/QUOTE]Thanks.
How long does this period last? Is it two weeks?
[QUOTE=Fellow111; 1106280]Thanks.
How long does this period last? Is it two weeks? [/QUOTE]The girls tend to return home for about a month.
[QUOTE=Ozoneaz; 1106223]I am looking for any suggestions for Busty attendants. The bustier the better. Coming from the US and have always favored large breasts.
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]Go to 999 / Bodi / Southern, you should be able to find a top heavy hot lineup.
[QUOTE=Carage;1106330]The girls tend to return home for about a month.[/QUOTE]In the three Pudong MP's where I have connections, the routine is that the girls draw lots, half go home for for the first two weeks, then the rest for the second two weeks. Girls often fail to return, and are sacked, losing thier security deposit!
Fz
Does anybody know a place where I could stay like the whole afternoon or 5 hours to relax? Enjoying eating a good meal, having a drink, having a good massage and then sex with two or three girls in shanghai? I am looking for a luxurious place, very clean, well furnished, having girls around all the time and not men. I know this is what we pretty much find in every shanghai sauna but I don't know, I am looking for something more upscale.
Thanks for your help.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106495]Does anybody know a place where I could stay like the whole afternoon or 5 hours to relax? Enjoying eating a good meal, having a drink, having a good massage and then sex with two or three girls in shanghai? I am looking for a luxurious place, very clean, well furnished, having girls around all the time and not men. I know this is what we pretty much find in every shanghai sauna but I don't know, I am looking for something more upscale.
Thanks for your help. [/QUOTE]Funny you ask because I was just going to ask the same thing. I'm looking for a less a men's sauna and more an upscale bathhouse that also offers girls, massages, etc. So far no luck. Nothing like what's offered in Shenzhen.
Back from Bangkok today so I headed to 999 for my first time there. I am pretty much sure some of the girls were at hailang before. I guess these two places are ran by the same mobsters. Anyways, hard to pick, the fishbowl has some great girls in there. And the staff pretty friendly.
I picked a really nice girl and had a good GFE, really. She kept french kissing me and smiling the whole time, she talked to me, was laughing, very fresh, so different from what I had in Bangkok. I am glad 999 is back to business. And will be back there soon.
I pretty much go to a sauna or a MP everyday. Something 's wrong with me?
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106495]Does anybody know a place where I could stay like the whole afternoon or 5 hours to relax? Enjoying eating a good meal, having a drink, having a good massage and then sex with two or three girls in shanghai? I am looking for a luxurious place, very clean, well furnished, having girls around all the time and not men. I know this is what we pretty much find in every shanghai sauna but I don't know, I am looking for something more upscale.
Thanks for your help. [/QUOTE]Sounds like 999 or Bodi. Have fun. I used to go to saunas everyday or every other day, so if it is a problem, you are not the only one with it.
There is ZiHuiQuan Sauna at the cross of Wuning Lu and Changshou Lu. Upscale place and the price to go with it as well.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1106495]Does anybody know a place where I could stay like the whole afternoon or 5 hours to relax? Enjoying eating a good meal, having a drink, having a good massage and then sex with two or three girls in shanghai? I am looking for a luxurious place, very clean, well furnished, having girls around all the time and not men. I know this is what we pretty much find in every shanghai sauna but I don't know, I am looking for something more upscale.
Thanks for your help. [/QUOTE]
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I went to 500 wuzhong lu today for the first time. In the carpark, I was looking for the sauna when a guy who was looking at me, finally, approached me and said to me "massage"! Yay! That is the right place.
The sauna is pretty old, and not as clean as bodi, heting or 999. But the staff is friendly. I went to a relaxing room where after a few minutes, the line arrived. Only 3 girls there. It was 4:30pm so maybe too early, I don't know. No stunners but I could have picked each of them. Not the best choice ever, but still something to eat. So I chose this girl from hainan. 23yo, very nice body imo, pretty and sexy, she told me she'd just arrived today and I was his first customer of the day. Nice.
No soapy massage over there. But a very relaxing oily massage right before a BBBJ that I'm not going to forget. And then we had sex.
She finished by a masage of my legs while talking a bit. A lovely moment.
Damage : 580 yuans. Bu gui.
[QUOTE=Jman90024;1106877]There is ZiHuiQuan Sauna at the cross of Wuning Lu and Changshou Lu. Upscale place and the price to go with it as well.[/QUOTE]Can you tell me more about this place? Prices, services? Where exactly? I went there today but did not find it.
[QUOTE=Jman90024;1106877]There is ZiHuiQuan Sauna at the cross of Wuning Lu and Changshou Lu. Upscale place and the price to go with it as well.[/QUOTE]True, it was 1100 per person, no fishbowl selection, and no soapy massage. Dry bed only.
But the interior was definitely high class and the food was much better than the competition.
It was shut down for a very long time, has it re-opened?
Went to Shanghai for the first time on business. A bit disappointed with the mongering activities as I compare to Shenzhen area, however, also somewhat surprised.
Checked into an American chain hotel, and right in front of it, a massage parlor. Went over to get my travel-beaten body fixed. Ok bodymassge, and as she was working my muscles she took her dress up to over her knees and had her inner thight slapping against my hands. A sure sign that something more is on the menu. All in all. 600 RMB for bodymassage and a happy ending. She did get naked and I was allowed to touch during that ending.
2 days later I picked up the Shanghai Daily and decided to try an escort service. Very, very bad idea. Girl came to the hotel, probably in her early 30's. Spoke english and was nice enough. Price was 200 USD for a BJ. And get a load of this, I put the condom on and she refuses to suck but prefers to fuck. Obviously, that came with a fee, so I gave her another 100 to get her out of my room. Total disaster, watch out for the ad's.
FInally there is a iano bar at the hotel. A couple of working girls there. Actually I was amazed by this given the brandname of the hotel. But decided to go for it, and the girl followed me discreetly to my room. Excellent session with FS for 1000 RMB (150 USD).
All in all, I prefer South China but you can get some action in Shaghai if you really want it. Outside the hotel there were a bunch of guys hanging out offering girls. I was stopped on the first evening and actually got to have a look at some of the beauties he had with him. Gorgeous! But I decided against it.
I was invited to a "private club" by these guys as well, needless to say I declined.
[QUOTE=Borregos77; 1107156]Went to Shanghai for the first time on business. A bit disappointed with the mongering activities as I compare to Shenzhen area, however, also somewhat surprised.
Checked into an American chain hotel, and right in front of it, a massage parlor. Went over to get my travel-beaten body fixed. Ok bodymassge, and as she was working my muscles she took her dress up to over her knees and had her inner thight slapping against my hands. A sure sign that something more is on the menu. All in all. 600 RMB for bodymassage and a happy ending. She did get naked and I was allowed to touch during that ending.
2 days later I picked up the Shanghai Daily and decided to try an escort service. Very, very bad idea. Girl came to the hotel, probably in her early 30's. Spoke english and was nice enough. Price was 200 USD for a BJ. And get a load of this, I put the condom on and she refuses to suck but prefers to fuck. Obviously, that came with a fee, so I gave her another 100 to get her out of my room. Total disaster, watch out for the ad's.
FInally there is a iano bar at the hotel. A couple of working girls there. Actually I was amazed by this given the brandname of the hotel. But decided to go for it, and the girl followed me discreetly to my room. Excellent session with FS for 1000 RMB (150 USD).
All in all, I prefer South China but you can get some action in Shaghai if you really want it. Outside the hotel there were a bunch of guys hanging out offering girls. I was stopped on the first evening and actually got to have a look at some of the beauties he had with him. Gorgeous! But I decided against it.
I was invited to a "private club" by these guys as well, needless to say I declined. [/QUOTE]At what you paid so willingly, are you Elliot Spitzer in disguise? I'm sure the the gals and smiling leaving your room. You should try to RTFF before venturing out again.
[QUOTE=Borregos77; 1107156]Went to Shanghai for the first time on business. A bit disappointed with the mongering activities as I compare to Shenzhen area, however, also somewhat surprised.
I was invited to a "private club" by these guys as well, needless to say I declined. [/QUOTE]And what is the name of this "hotel chain"?
By declining the offer to go to a private club you saved yourself at least somne 1/2000 US$ experience or, if reported to police, a one way ticket to the local jail and evemtually deportation after quite some time.
Guys, stay away from those unique "private club" opportunities.
Very dangerous scams.
Better waste a 100$ in a happy ending ending than follow those proposals
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1107233]And what is the name of this "hotel chain"?
By declining the offer to go to a private club you saved yourself at least somne 1/2000 US$ experience or, if reported to police, a one way ticket to the local jail and evemtually deportation after quite some time.
Guys, stay away from those unique "private club" opportunities.
Very dangerous scams.
Better waste a 100$ in a happy ending ending than follow those proposals[/QUOTE]When I was in Beijing, I went to a place that would only provide FS to VIP members.
The qualification of becoming a VIP member is by paying at least 10k RMB up front.
Luckily, there are a lot more places in Shanghai which does not require such entrance fees.
Went to Riverview yesterday and was told no FS available. Only "normal massage". Asked me to call them next time before I go.
Maybe a recent raid?
Any news about Riverview?
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1108299]Any news about Riverview?[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about Riverview, but I heard 999 is still open as of today.
My source says she did not hear of any major LE action in Shanghai lately, they are located in a different district though.
999 has been back to business lately, hope it's going to last.
I have been on this site quite while, even though I don't post. Been going SH for ten years and have found many nice "friends" that I keep up with. My hobby of searching "sites" to find new ones a couple of weeks before I arrive. Don't like the bar scene, so I have just have my "stable" of friends for dinner and "fun". I just found a new site that instant messages back and forth when online. It is too good to be true-I got about five nights free and too many to handle and meet. So I need to share it with guys, since my time on this site has been enjoyable by all you contributing! (and helpful) so private message me and I will share-but I will be selective, as I know most of you by now.
Anyone knows where to find filipinas in Shanghai?
Was there about an hour ago. Massive line up, about 30 girls. I've been visiting them for about a year now, and this is the biggest line up I've ever seen. I stayed with my regular girls, though. 906 and 917, from Hunan and Hubei, respectively. Both are tiny, young and amazing. If you can get one, do it; if you can get both, you'll be quite happy you did. RMB1300 for both, soapy massage, massage on the bed, about 30 min oral with both. 20 min sex with both, popped in one and HJ from the other until I came again. Great, great girls. If you haven't been to this place, it's got a really friendly staff, too.
Good people, good times.
[QUOTE=Bxbxbx; 1108969]Was there about an hour ago. Massive line up, about 30 girls. I've been visiting them for about a year now, and this is the biggest line up I've ever seen. I stayed with my regular girls, though. 906 and 917, from Hunan and Hubei, respectively. Both are tiny, young and amazing. If you can get one, do it; if you can get both, you'll be quite happy you did. RMB1300 for both, soapy massage, massage on the bed, about 30 min oral with both. 20 min sex with both, popped in one and HJ from the other until I came again. Great, great girls. If you haven't been to this place, it's got a really friendly staff, too.
Good people, good times. [/QUOTE]BXBXBX,
This place have good official contact I have never see this place get closed down but the price is higher than most other place and selection is very good always, the girl I pick last time I was there is a hottie but attuide and service is not that good.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Explicit;1108949]Anyone knows where to find filipinas in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]Go into Manhattan, call out "Anybody want some Balut?". You'll have Filipinas all over you like white on rice.
I got something. Still waiting to see my results when I go back to home country next week. Anyway, most likely Chlamydia. I got it from a BBBJ, from one of these lovely establishments.
The discussion with your doctor is bad enough. But the pain and embarrassment is even worse. Can't quite recall how I got it. Could have been a few different times, but washing with listerine is crap and does nothing. Remember the girls are trying to make sure they are clean at the end of it. They don't care about whether you're going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] painfully for the next two weeks.
As my doctor said. Most would not know if they had a mouth ulcer. Nor would they care.
Anyway. The lesson is. Cover up, no where near as good, but you've got to look after your old fella, as he's certainly looked after you until now!
[QUOTE=Dickie Robert; 1103485]IMHO. You should always do cover to be safe.
Lots of girls in China have chlamydia but don't know it as they don't have any symptoms. If you have BBBJ, you should get yourself checked out even if you may not have any symptoms. Chances are you are already a carrier.
Chlamydia is highly contagious via BB oral, vaginal or anal. Good news is it's very easy to treat. Unless you knows specifically that you have chlamydia, doc will usually give you a shot (for gonorrhea) and antibiotics (for chlamydia) at the same time just to be on the safe side as their symptoms are exactly the same.[/QUOTE]
Just returned from 999. There is a new policy in place, now the club is requiring membership cards.
Returning customers recognized by the staff will get the cards for free.
But new customers are supposed to pay 100 RMB for the card.
Membership registration requires writing down a 4 digit password preferably the last 4 digits of your cellphone.
The manager says the sister clubs like Bodi are doing the same for customer screening.
How is this new policy going to be implemented and enforced? I have no clue.
But this does look like an obstacle for newbies.
[QUOTE=Apple Court;1109271]Go into Manhattan, call out "Anybody want some Balut?". You'll have Filipinas all over you like white on rice.[/QUOTE]I've been there but for 1000 rmb I would better go to the Philippines, around closing time is it possible to get lower prices or not?
Any tips / suggestions on how to insure the 2 girls one takes away from Manhattan for a 3some are willing to get freaky with each other? I have tried a very direct line of questioning (I ask "will you lick her pu$$why?) with little success (they say yes in the bar, then only fake it in the room).
Also, is one nationality more likely than another to be good with girl on girl action? I know Chinese girl are rarely willing, but of the Viets, Filos, Thai, Cambos which are my best odds?
With all that said, I have had GREAT luck with the Cambodian takeout from Manhattans. They aren't much for lesbo action, but they are fun, fun, fun!
It's been a while since my last rambling Shanghai report. I was out of play for a while due to other obligations but still managed to spend some time with my new fil friend. Unfortunately now I've returned to Canada and won't be back in Shanghai for a while. Hopefully it will be sooner than later and next time to stay for good.
I managed to get back to Sarcosa one last time and saw 188. Other than her looking at her self in the mirror to adjust her hair every now and then she was amazing. She told me at the end that she as trying hard to contain her moans because we were in a room right next to where all the girls hang out between sessions. Odd that we went to that room. We also had a fun moment when the couple in the next room were making noises like a dying moose. Sorry, that's what it sounded like. Me and 188 we fucking and suddenly stopped listened stared at each other and laughed. It was an interesting moment to say the least. Give 188 a spin she's worth the time. One highlight was an extended session of twisty 69 BBBJ. She has a sweet slender tight body with a nice set of tits. I regret not having time to see her again. I still feel 266 is hands-down my best BBBJ experience at Sarcosa but 188 was a pleasant addition to my positive experiences there.
So, for now, it's farewell to the Shanghai thread. Perhaps early 2012 I will return as a more permanent resident. For now, I'll do my best to contribute to the Canadian threads. If anyone is heading towards Canada and needs some advice, let me know and I'll help out as much as I can.
Have fun play safe.
G.
[QUOTE=Dolla Bill; 1109663]Any tips / suggestions on how to insure the 2 girls one takes away from Manhattan for a 3some are willing to get freaky with each other? I have tried a very direct line of questioning (I ask "will you lick her pu$$why?) with little success (they say yes in the bar, then only fake it in the room).
Also, is one nationality more likely than another to be good with girl on girl action? I know Chinese girl are rarely willing, but of the Viets, Filos, Thai, Cambos which are my best odds?
With all that said, I have had GREAT luck with the Cambodian takeout from Manhattans. They aren't much for lesbo action, but they are fun, fun, fun![/QUOTE]What damage for both?
It shouldn't impact most of people in this forum. Visited Bodi first time last week. Was stopped by the manager but he let me in as soon as I told him that I am not Chinese. Got my membership card for free when I leave.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1109341]Just returned from 999. There is a new policy in place, now the club is requiring membership cards.
Returning customers recognized by the staff will get the cards for free.
But new customers are supposed to pay 100 RMB for the card.
Membership registration requires writing down a 4 digit password preferably the last 4 digits of your cellphone.
The manager says the sister clubs like Bodi are doing the same for customer screening.
How is this new policy going to be implemented and enforced? I have no clue.
But this does look like an obstacle for newbies. [/QUOTE]
I used to post under the nick "Getting it On", but somehow lost my password and have been lurking in the forum ever since as China has unstable VPN available. I know this is not the right thread, but this gets high-traffic. Anyway, here is the deal.
I am in Wenzhou, China regularly. Last week, I went to a massage place. Full service = RMB328. I got the full service. Face was a 7. GFE = 10. At the beginning, the girl was all GF and saying how much she loves sex and has to do it once a week. She lost her virginity at the age of 17. Claims her age to be 26. Her boobs were 33B but very soft and a bit saggy. IMHO, due to breastfeeding?
Anyway, she gives me a BBBJ and AR and I did a few licks of her pussy but she said no in a polite way (I feel 'bu hao yi shi', I don't think it is right for you as a client to be servicing me). After the third time of little licks, and she asking me to stop, I stopped.
Then she capped me and we started doing it. She immediately gave me DFK and we were at it all the time. But she didn't swallow my saliva, she spat out every 30 seconds. It was like 15 mins and I still couldn't cum. I said, probably I am not used to the condom. She then said lets take it off. I was hesitant, but my little head was doing the thinking. So she uncapped me and we fucked more. She claims she has been a prostitute for only over 1 year.
In 2 mins, I was about to cum. I said I better pull out. But she said no, its ok, shoot inside her and pulled me closer and hugged me tighter. I said what if you get pregnant, she said its ok, just shoot. I repeated my concerned, but she kept her movements and clenching her pussy muscles. She said don't worry, just shoot. So I shot my load deep inside. She held me there for 1 minute before pulling away. She then proceeded to wipe her pussy with the wet wipes quite a bit.
I said what are you going to do? She said she'll just take some sort of medication and no worries. She said that she came together at the same time as me and this is her first time having unprotected sex as she felt some sort of connection with me. I repeated my concern about her getting pregnant and asking her if she is STD free and clean. After a few times, she said she feels hurt that I ask so many times.
Now I am very afraid of getting the HIV. BBBJ, DATY (a little) , DFK, unprotected sex. I didn't notice any cut on my lips etc until this morning I have to cuts. I don't know if the lip cuts are due to the cold and dry winter weather or were there earlier. So my DATY and DFK with a cut lip is not so good.
I am sweating buckets now. Do you think I have been infected with HIV? She seemed so open to unprotected sex, BBBJ and DFK but don't want a full blown DATY.
I have googled that I have to wait 3 months before I can do a HIV test.
What do you guys think?
[QUOTE=Bxbxbx; 1108969]Was there about an hour ago. Massive line up, about 30 girls. I've been visiting them for about a year now, and this is the biggest line up I've ever seen. I stayed with my regular girls, though. 906 and 917, from Hunan and Hubei, respectively. Both are tiny, young and amazing. If you can get one, do it; if you can get both, you'll be quite happy you did. RMB1300 for both, soapy massage, massage on the bed, about 30 min oral with both. 20 min sex with both, popped in one and HJ from the other until I came again. Great, great girls. If you haven't been to this place, it's got a really friendly staff, too.
Good people, good times.[/QUOTE]I have terrible news for you. You guys pay waaaaay too much for girls in China. My friends, whatever city you are in, in China. Just ask the taxi drivers, or walk around in smaller side streets. You will see barber shops or in some neighborhoods, you can find ma ma san talking to customers. They will bring you to their homes. There will be 6 to 10 ladies, from ages 18 to 23. For 120 RMB (16 dollars). For an hour, the girls will give you shower, blow you, and let you have sex with them. Yes, it should only cost about 100 or so RMB.
You guys need to stay away from tourists KTV shops, Go where the local men goes to. Ask the taxi drivers, they usually know everything.
My goodness, for 1300 RMB, heck, you can sleep with 10 girls.
I used to post under the nick "Getting it On", but somehow lost my password and have been lurking in the forum ever since as China has unstable VPN available. I know this is not the right thread, but this gets high-traffic. Anyway, here is the deal.
I am in Wenzhou, China regularly. Last week, I went to a massage place. Full service = RMB328. I got the full service. Face was a 7. GFE = 10. At the beginning, the girl was all GF and saying how much she loves sex and has to do it once a week. She lost her virginity at the age of 17. Claims her age to be 26. Her boobs were 33B but very soft and a bit saggy. IMHO, due to breastfeeding?
Anyway, she gives me a BBBJ and AR and I did a few licks of her pussy but she said no in a polite way (I feel 'bu hao yi shi', I don't think it is right for you as a client to be servicing me). After the third time of little licks, and she asking me to stop, I stopped.
Then she capped me and we started doing it. She immediately gave me DFK and we were at it all the time. But she didn't swallow my saliva, she spat out every 30 seconds. It was like 15 mins and I still couldn't cum. I said, probably I am not used to the condom. She then said lets take it off. I was hesitant, but my little head was doing the thinking. So she uncapped me and we fucked more. She claims she has been a prostitute for only over 1 year.
In 2 mins, I was about to cum. I said I better pull out. But she said no, its ok, shoot inside her and pulled me closer and hugged me tighter. I said what if you get pregnant, she said its ok, just shoot. I repeated my concerned, but she kept her movements and clenching her pussy muscles. She said don't worry, just shoot. So I shot my load deep inside. She held me there for 1 minute before pulling away. She then proceeded to wipe her pussy with the wet wipes quite a bit.
I said what are you going to do? She said she'll just take some sort of medication and no worries. She said that she came together at the same time as me and this is her first time having unprotected sex as she felt some sort of connection with me. I repeated my concern about her getting pregnant and asking her if she is STD free and clean. After a few times, she said she feels hurt that I ask so many times.
Now I am very afraid of getting the HIV. BBBJ, DATY (a little) , DFK, unprotected sex. I didn't notice any cut on my lips etc until this morning I have to cuts. I don't know if the lip cuts are due to the cold and dry winter weather or were there earlier. So my DATY and DFK with a cut lip is not so good.
I am sweating buckets now. Do you think I have been infected with HIV? She seemed so open to unprotected sex, BBBJ and DFK but don't want a full blown DATY.
I have googled that I have to wait 3 months before I can do a HIV test.
What do you guys think?
Has anyone ridden 870 at 999? Absolutely the best sex of my life. Was there a few nights ago. 30 or so hotties lined up. 807 is tall, skinny, and smiley. Not much in the breast department but awesome ass and waist. Great ride! Anyone else have her?
Guys. Am I the only one or do you also feel that there are at least a couple trolls amongst us?
SEAJ
This my first report. Went to hailang couple weeks ago. It was a Sunday afternoon around 1pm. Been there once before and the security Guy at front door told me the price is now 800. Last time it was 600 something, but I wanted some nice time so said ok. Went change room, still can't get use to the Guy standing next to me while changing. Anyway the line up was a bit small, maybe 8 girls. When I picked maybe a dozen more came out! Next time take your time especially if you are alone! The one I picked was a pretty tall girl. Face 8 body7 service 8.
She had really nice attitude very cheerful but just enough. Not too much.
So we went to the room she undressed me went to shower. She didn't have very big breast but enough to lay with. Shower was great, she was riding me as if she wanted to start action right away, but it was just the beginning.
Then went for the soapy which was nice.
After that get on the bed for some more service. She started licking my whole body, then did the thing on my back with water in her mouth. Hers was not bad at all! By my buddy was getting impatient when she started to work on my ass. She was using a lot of Listerine, even on my anus! As surprised first but didn't felt so bad. Very fresh!
Then flipped me and got on serious stuff she started BBBJ which turned into 69. She was very opened didn't sq anything. Then we start fucking. She started to ride me like crazy, she came good. L prefer leading so we moved to Mish. Her pussy was tight, it felt so good I started to dfk her. Wasn't Good at it but it did the job. Then she came again. Men it was so intense great GFE. Popped once but was really good.
Then we did some cuddling a kissing. The girl is from fulang. Try to told me where it is but I really didn't get anything. She asked me when I start work the day after and where I live think she was willing to come for more fun but I didn't dig as girlfriend at home.
Went to shower said good by and the elevator, then head to work for last minute meeting.
Girl was heat would go for her again for sure.
This my first report. Went to hailang couple weeks ago. It was a Sunday afternoon around 1pm. Been there once before and the security Guy at front door told me the price is now 800. Last time it was 600 something, but I wanted some nice time so said ok. Went change room, still can't get use to the Guy standing next to me while changing. Anyway the line up was a bit small, maybe 8 girls. When I picked maybe a dozen more came out! Next time take your time especially if you are alone! The one I picked was a pretty tall girl. Face 8 body7 service 8.
She had really nice attitude very cheerful but just enough. Not too much.
So we went to the room she undressed me went to shower. She didn't have very big breast but enough to lay with. Shower was great, she was riding me as if she wanted to start action right away, but it was just the beginning.
Then went for the soapy which was nice.
After that get on the bed for some more service. She started licking my whole body, then did the thing on my back with water in her mouth. Hers was not bad at all! By my buddy was getting impatient when she started to work on my ass. She was using a lot of Listerine, even on my anus! As surprised first but didn't felt so bad. Very fresh!
Then flipped me and got on serious stuff she started BBBJ which turned into 69. She was very opened didn't sq anything. Then we start fucking. She started to ride me like crazy, she came good. L prefer leading so we moved to Mish. Her pussy was tight, it felt so good I started to dfk her. Wasn't Good at it but it did the job. Then she came again. Men it was so intense great GFE. Popped once but was really good.
Then we did some cuddling a kissing. The girl is from fulang. Try to told me where it is but I really didn't get anything. She asked me when I start work the day after and where I live think she was willing to come for more fun but I didn't dig as girlfriend at home.
Went to shower said good by and the elevator, then head to work for last minute meeting.
Girl was great would go for her again for sure.
This my first report. Went to hailang couple weeks ago. It was a Sunday afternoon around 1pm. Been there once before and the security Guy at front door told me the price is now 800. Last time it was 600 something, but I wanted some nice time so said ok. Went change room, still can't get use to the Guy standing next to me while changing. Anyway the line up was a bit small, maybe 8 girls. When I picked maybe a dozen more came out! Next time take your time especially if you are alone! The one I picked was a pretty tall girl. Face 8 body7 service 8.
She had really nice attitude very cheerful but just enough. Not too much.
So we went to the room she undressed me went to shower. She didn't have very big breast but enough to lay with. Shower was great, she was riding me as if she wanted to start action right away, but it was just the beginning.
Then went for the soapy which was nice.
After that get on the bed for some more service. She started licking my whole body, then did the thing on my back with water in her mouth. Hers was not bad at all! By my buddy was getting impatient when she started to work on my ass. She was using a lot of Listerine, even on my anus! As surprised first but didn't felt so bad. Very fresh!
Then flipped me and got on serious stuff she started BBBJ which turned into 69. She was very opened didn't sq anything. Then we start fucking. She started to ride me like crazy, she came good. L prefer leading so we moved to Mish. Her pussy was tight, it felt so good I started to dfk her. Wasn't Good at it but it did the job. Then she came again. Men it was so intense great GFE. Popped once but was really good.
Then we did some cuddling a kissing. The girl is from fulang. Try to told me where it is but I really didn't get anything. She asked me when I start work the day after and where I live think she was willing to come for more fun but I didn't dig as girlfriend at home.
Went to shower said good by and the elevator, then head to work for last minute meeting.
Girl was heat would go for her again for sure.
[QUOTE=Explicit;1108949]Anyone knows where to find filipinas in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]I went to Malones, Judy's and then Manhattan on Sunday night starting around 11pm. Figured it would be a decent night since many people had off on Monday. NOT. Malones had a few punters only; Judy's upstairs no one, downstairs a table full of people and 3 women prowling that I wouldn't take money from if they wanted to do it; so ended up at Manhattan.
This was better, maybe a dozen women and a dozen guys but nothing turning my head After 1 it got a bit better. What is it with these women starting the night so late? One Viet gal was very hot (one not, so I'm not saying "the viet girls are all hot and I got 2 phone numbers", FFS) , but by then I had my eye on a Philippino girl that had one of the looks that I sometimes like, the come fuck me look. So I took her home and had a grand ole time. Gave her 1000 in the morning and no complaints.
This weekend I plan on trying one of these saunas you all keep raving about. Was going to try one last weekend but wanted someone to stay over rather than just go someplace, get laid and then return home alone.
Also interested in knowing if there are any BBS still open. Seems like a lot were shut down due to Expo.
[QUOTE=Crazyjoe China; 1109923]I used to post under the nick "Getting it On", but somehow lost my password and have been lurking in the forum ever since as China has unstable VPN available. I know this is not the right thread, but this gets high-traffic. Anyway, here is the deal.
I am in Wenzhou, China regularly. Last week, I went to a massage place. Full service = RMB328. I got the full service. Face was a 7. GFE = 10. At the beginning, the girl was all GF and saying how much she loves sex and has to do it once a week. She lost her virginity at the age of 17. Claims her age to be 26. Her boobs were 33B but very soft and a bit saggy. IMHO, due to breastfeeding?
Anyway, she gives me a BBBJ and AR and I did a few licks of her pussy but she said no in a polite way (I feel 'bu hao yi shi', I don't think it is right for you as a client to be servicing me). After the third time of little licks, and she asking me to stop, I stopped.
Then she capped me and we started doing it. She immediately gave me DFK and we were at it all the time. But she didn't swallow my saliva, she spat out every 30 seconds. It was like 15 mins and I still couldn't cum. I said, probably I am not used to the condom. She then said lets take it off. I was hesitant, but my little head was doing the thinking. So she uncapped me and we fucked more. She claims she has been a prostitute for only over 1 year.
In 2 mins, I was about to cum. I said I better pull out. But she said no, its ok, shoot inside her and pulled me closer and hugged me tighter. I said what if you get pregnant, she said its ok, just shoot. I repeated my concerned, but she kept her movements and clenching her pussy muscles. She said don't worry, just shoot. So I shot my load deep inside. She held me there for 1 minute before pulling away. She then proceeded to wipe her pussy with the wet wipes quite a bit.
I said what are you going to do? She said she'll just take some sort of medication and no worries. She said that she came together at the same time as me and this is her first time having unprotected sex as she felt some sort of connection with me. I repeated my concern about her getting pregnant and asking her if she is STD free and clean. After a few times, she said she feels hurt that I ask so many times.
Now I am very afraid of getting the HIV. BBBJ, DATY (a little) , DFK, unprotected sex. I didn't notice any cut on my lips etc until this morning I have to cuts. I don't know if the lip cuts are due to the cold and dry winter weather or were there earlier. So my DATY and DFK with a cut lip is not so good.
I am sweating buckets now. Do you think I have been infected with HIV? She seemed so open to unprotected sex, BBBJ and DFK but don't want a full blown DATY.
I have googled that I have to wait 3 months before I can do a HIV test.
What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]I think you should start choosing Chinese baby names.
[QUOTE=Vincelee76; 1109908]I have terrible news for you. You guys pay waaaaay too much for girls in China. My friends, whatever city you are in, in China. Just ask the taxi drivers, or walk around in smaller side streets. You will see barber shops or in some neighborhoods, you can find ma ma san talking to customers. They will bring you to their homes. There will be 6 to 10 ladies, from ages 18 to 23. For 120 RMB (16 dollars). For an hour, the girls will give you shower, blow you, and let you have sex with them. Yes, it should only cost about 100 or so RMB.
You guys need to stay away from tourists KTV shops, Go where the local men goes to. Ask the taxi drivers, they usually know everything.
My goodness, for 1300 RMB, heck, you can sleep with 10 girls. [/QUOTE]There are quality and safety concerns, of course nothing is absolute.
But price tends to be an indicator.
I would not go to a BBS / foot massage place unless I was really desperate.
Hi Crazy.
Lets do the math. To get HIV from her, first she has to have HIV. Chances of that for a working girl in Shanghai is about 1/500. Then if she has it, she has to transmit to you. Transmission rate for single incidence of unprotected sex is about 1/800 or lower so your chance of getting HIV is (1/500) X (1/800) = (1/400000). That is, for every 400000 incidents of unproptected sex with working girls in Shanghai, one guy will get HIV. Get your test but don't sweat it out while you are waiting.
Now other things like Chlamydia, gonorrhea Herpes, hepatitis or even TB, those are much easier to get. Use condoms for intercourse and stay away from hookers that look sick.
Do you think she wanted to get pregnant? You might have a little haizi.
[QUOTE=Crazyjoe China; 1109923]I used to post under the nick "Getting it On", but somehow lost my password and have been lurking in the forum ever since as China has unstable VPN available. I know this is not the right thread, but this gets high-traffic. Anyway, here is the deal.
I am in Wenzhou, China regularly. Last week, I went to a massage place. Full service = RMB328. I got the full service. Face was a 7. GFE = 10. At the beginning, the girl was all GF and saying how much she loves sex and has to do it once a week. She lost her virginity at the age of 17. Claims her age to be 26. Her boobs were 33B but very soft and a bit saggy. IMHO, due to breastfeeding?
Anyway, she gives me a BBBJ and AR and I did a few licks of her pussy but she said no in a polite way (I feel 'bu hao yi shi', I don't think it is right for you as a client to be servicing me). After the third time of little licks, and she asking me to stop, I stopped.
Then she capped me and we started doing it. She immediately gave me DFK and we were at it all the time. But she didn't swallow my saliva, she spat out every 30 seconds. It was like 15 mins and I still couldn't cum. I said, probably I am not used to the condom. She then said lets take it off. I was hesitant, but my little head was doing the thinking. So she uncapped me and we fucked more. She claims she has been a prostitute for only over 1 year.
In 2 mins, I was about to cum. I said I better pull out. But she said no, its ok, shoot inside her and pulled me closer and hugged me tighter. I said what if you get pregnant, she said its ok, just shoot. I repeated my concerned, but she kept her movements and clenching her pussy muscles. She said don't worry, just shoot. So I shot my load deep inside. She held me there for 1 minute before pulling away. She then proceeded to wipe her pussy with the wet wipes quite a bit.
I said what are you going to do? She said she'll just take some sort of medication and no worries. She said that she came together at the same time as me and this is her first time having unprotected sex as she felt some sort of connection with me. I repeated my concern about her getting pregnant and asking her if she is STD free and clean. After a few times, she said she feels hurt that I ask so many times.
Now I am very afraid of getting the HIV. BBBJ, DATY (a little) , DFK, unprotected sex. I didn't notice any cut on my lips etc until this morning I have to cuts. I don't know if the lip cuts are due to the cold and dry winter weather or were there earlier. So my DATY and DFK with a cut lip is not so good.
I am sweating buckets now. Do you think I have been infected with HIV? She seemed so open to unprotected sex, BBBJ and DFK but don't want a full blown DATY.
I have googled that I have to wait 3 months before I can do a HIV test.
What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crazyjoe China; 1109923]I used to post under the nick "Getting it On", but somehow lost my password and have been lurking in the forum ever since as China has unstable VPN available. I know this is not the right thread, but this gets high-traffic. Anyway, here is the deal.
I am in Wenzhou, China regularly. Last week, I went to a massage place. Full service = RMB328. I got the full service. Face was a 7. GFE = 10. At the beginning, the girl was all GF and saying how much she loves sex and has to do it once a week. She lost her virginity at the age of 17. Claims her age to be 26. Her boobs were 33B but very soft and a bit saggy. IMHO, due to breastfeeding?
Anyway, she gives me a BBBJ and AR and I did a few licks of her pussy but she said no in a polite way (I feel 'bu hao yi shi', I don't think it is right for you as a client to be servicing me). After the third time of little licks, and she asking me to stop, I stopped.
Then she capped me and we started doing it. She immediately gave me DFK and we were at it all the time. But she didn't swallow my saliva, she spat out every 30 seconds. It was like 15 mins and I still couldn't cum. I said, probably I am not used to the condom. She then said lets take it off. I was hesitant, but my little head was doing the thinking. So she uncapped me and we fucked more. She claims she has been a prostitute for only over 1 year.
In 2 mins, I was about to cum. I said I better pull out. But she said no, its ok, shoot inside her and pulled me closer and hugged me tighter. I said what if you get pregnant, she said its ok, just shoot. I repeated my concerned, but she kept her movements and clenching her pussy muscles. She said don't worry, just shoot. So I shot my load deep inside. She held me there for 1 minute before pulling away. She then proceeded to wipe her pussy with the wet wipes quite a bit.
I said what are you going to do? She said she'll just take some sort of medication and no worries. She said that she came together at the same time as me and this is her first time having unprotected sex as she felt some sort of connection with me. I repeated my concern about her getting pregnant and asking her if she is STD free and clean. After a few times, she said she feels hurt that I ask so many times.
Now I am very afraid of getting the HIV. BBBJ, DATY (a little) , DFK, unprotected sex. I didn't notice any cut on my lips etc until this morning I have to cuts. I don't know if the lip cuts are due to the cold and dry winter weather or were there earlier. So my DATY and DFK with a cut lip is not so good.
I am sweating buckets now. Do you think I have been infected with HIV? She seemed so open to unprotected sex, BBBJ and DFK but don't want a full blown DATY.
I have googled that I have to wait 3 months before I can do a HIV test.
What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]Chances are you have picked up chlamydia or something similar. Most women who carry chlamydia exhibit no symptoms and about 50% of the men who carry it do not exhibit symptoms either. In China, most working women have them but just don't know it. Chlamydia is highly transmissible and can be transmitted via vaginal, anal and oral sex. But, don't worry. You can't catch it from kissing, DFK or swapping saliva.
Get yourself checked out for chlamydia and other STD ASAP as you don't want to transmit to others if you have them. In the meanwhile, stop thinking with your little head and don't have unprotected sex of any kind (including oral!) when you are out mongering.
A single pill should do the trick for chlamydia and a shot for gonno. See my earlier post.
-Dickie.
Can anyone comment on the various outcall services available. I'd like to give it a try but hesitant because I don't know what the cost will be. For example, most sites advertise oil massage for around 250rmb, but what will be the overall cost of FS, and how much bargaining has to be done. I know how to bargain but I don't like doing it, and I don't want to end up just sending her home because at she asks for is way over priced. I'm thinking 600-800rmb is fair.
Thanks
Any suggestion for:
-Naked KTV?
-Cheap KTV?
- Uniforms sauna place?
Thanks in advance for your MP.
Gone back few days ago to Hongqiao road / fanyu road been disapointed to see that the sauna only provide massage+HJ+anal stimulation. No more girls since few months. According to them the girls might back in few months
[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1110583]Can anyone comment on the various outcall services available. I'd like to give it a try but hesitant because I don't know what the cost will be. For example, most sites advertise oil massage for around 250rmb, but what will be the overall cost of FS, and how much bargaining has to be done. I know how to bargain but I don't like doing it, and I don't want to end up just sending her home because at she asks for is way over priced. I'm thinking 600-800rmb is fair.
Thanks[/QUOTE]No, expieriance myself, but from what I read in the from and [url]www[/url], outcalls that serve foreigners are usually higher class with high price girls or scams with not so good girls or not what they look like on the web. IF you speak Chinese that might be different. For 600-800 you better get some No. At Manhattan and call them to your hotel later.
Where might one pick up these magic pills to treat Chlamydia and Gonorrhea?
[QUOTE=Dickie Robert; 1110148]Chances are you have picked up chlamydia or something similar. Most women who carry chlamydia exhibit no symptoms and about 50% of the men who carry it do not exhibit symptoms either. In China, most working women have them but just don't know it. Chlamydia is highly transmissible and can be transmitted via vaginal, anal and oral sex. But, don't worry. You can't catch it from kissing, DFK or swapping saliva.
Get yourself checked out for chlamydia and other STD ASAP as you don't want to transmit to others if you have them. In the meanwhile, stop thinking with your little head and don't have unprotected sex of any kind (including oral!) when you are out mongering.
A single pill should do the trick for chlamydia and a shot for gonno. See my earlier post.
Dickie[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crazyjoe China; 1109923]I used to post under the nick "Getting it On", but somehow lost my password and have been lurking in the forum ever since as China has unstable VPN available. I know this is not the right thread, but this gets high-traffic. Anyway, here is the deal.
I am in Wenzhou, China regularly. Last week, I went to a massage place. Full service = RMB328. I got the full service. Face was a 7. GFE = 10. At the beginning, the girl was all GF and saying how much she loves sex and has to do it once a week. She lost her virginity at the age of 17. Claims her age to be 26. Her boobs were 33B but very soft and a bit saggy. IMHO, due to breastfeeding?
Anyway, she gives me a BBBJ and AR and I did a few licks of her pussy but she said no in a polite way (I feel 'bu hao yi shi', I don't think it is right for you as a client to be servicing me). After the third time of little licks, and she asking me to stop, I stopped.
Then she capped me and we started doing it. She immediately gave me DFK and we were at it all the time. But she didn't swallow my saliva, she spat out every 30 seconds. It was like 15 mins and I still couldn't cum. I said, probably I am not used to the condom. She then said lets take it off. I was hesitant, but my little head was doing the thinking. So she uncapped me and we fucked more. She claims she has been a prostitute for only over 1 year.
In 2 mins, I was about to cum. I said I better pull out. But she said no, its ok, shoot inside her and pulled me closer and hugged me tighter. I said what if you get pregnant, she said its ok, just shoot. I repeated my concerned, but she kept her movements and clenching her pussy muscles. She said don't worry, just shoot. So I shot my load deep inside. She held me there for 1 minute before pulling away. She then proceeded to wipe her pussy with the wet wipes quite a bit.
I said what are you going to do? She said she'll just take some sort of medication and no worries. She said that she came together at the same time as me and this is her first time having unprotected sex as she felt some sort of connection with me. I repeated my concern about her getting pregnant and asking her if she is STD free and clean. After a few times, she said she feels hurt that I ask so many times.
Now I am very afraid of getting the HIV. BBBJ, DATY (a little) , DFK, unprotected sex. I didn't notice any cut on my lips etc until this morning I have to cuts. I don't know if the lip cuts are due to the cold and dry winter weather or were there earlier. So my DATY and DFK with a cut lip is not so good.
I am sweating buckets now. Do you think I have been infected with HIV? She seemed so open to unprotected sex, BBBJ and DFK but don't want a full blown DATY.
I have googled that I have to wait 3 months before I can do a HIV test.
What do you guys think? [/QUOTE]Crazy,
I think you are over reacting abit. Chances as Southgate has said is quite slim for HIV, as far a STDs goes, see if little Crazy starts to drip in a few days and then you will know. Take it easy brother, chances are very good that you will live to fuck another little Chinese muffin.
PC out
I stopped in at Riverview last night. There were 6-7 people working the desk. All the said they had working were men! What the heck? This is only my second trip to Shanghai, last time was disappointing. Hoping to make this one better, I have Bodi and 999 still on the list, hopefully things will look up from here. I am looking for sensual massage, where the massage is as much of a focus as anything else. Suggestions? Since I am here on business, late nights are when I can go. I will post results as soon as I find something worth reporting.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Ozoneaz; 1111073]I stopped in at Riverview last night. There were 6-7 people working the desk. All the said they had working were men! What the heck? This is only my second trip to Shanghai, last time was disappointing. Hoping to make this one better, I have Bodi and 999 still on the list, hopefully things will look up from here. I am looking for sensual massage, where the massage is as much of a focus as anything else. Suggestions? Since I am here on business, late nights are when I can go. I will post results as soon as I find something worth reporting.
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]There is still Sarcosa in Pudong or another one on Nanjing Road. In the "Fake Market" near the overpass. On 6 fl side elevator. Let us know how it goes.
MD40
[QUOTE=Marty47;1108591]I have been on this site quite while, even though I don't post. Been going SH for ten years and have found many nice "friends" that I keep up with. My hobby of searching "sites" to find new ones a couple of weeks before I arrive. Don't like the bar scene, so I have just have my "stable" of friends for dinner and "fun". I just found a new site that instant messages back and forth when online. It is too good to be true-I got about five nights free and too many to handle and meet. So I need to share it with guys, since my time on this site has been enjoyable by all you contributing! (and helpful) so private message me and I will share-but I will be selective, as I know most of you by now.[/QUOTE]Hey marthy, can you share the name of this site?
Thanks!
Hi guys, this is my first report here.
Following the directions found in this forum, few days ago I headed to Anyuan Lu and found a series (I saw 3) of BS with the door locked but with several girls inside (waving at you). After couple laps, I chose one and in I went: the line-up wasn't terrific, but still I found one cutie. I explained her I wanted to have a BJ and she quoted me 200 rmb; I thought it was a bit too much (especially thinking at what I read here) and try to take it down to 150, but she says no no. I went for it anyway, she showed me the bed and get (partially) undressed. After cleaning my little friend and my nipples with some warm water, she starts to lick my nipples for few minutes, and then put the glove on and starts to blow me, very nicely. I tell her to slow down and she goes back to my nipples, and after a while again to my dick, sucking it until I come and not leaving it until she got every drop out of me.
Very nice girl.
Enjoy, and play safe
[QUOTE=Jman90024;1109844]It shouldn't impact most of people in this forum. Visited Bodi first time last week. Was stopped by the manager but he let me in as soon as I told him that I am not Chinese. Got my membership card for free when I leave.[/QUOTE]This membership thing is just a front to screen-out potential LE's. As long as you don't look Chinese, or if your Chinese but speak Mandarin with a Taiwanese accent, they should let you in in a heartbeat. Went to Hailang for the first time a few days ago and told 'them I was from Taiwan. Before I realized it, I was standing in front of the fish bowl.
[QUOTE=Explicit;1108949]Anyone knows where to find filipinas in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]There are plenty of them at Judy's, Malones (Monday. Saturday) and Manhattan. Not as many at Manhattan as there used to be, as the Vietnamese and some Thai have moved in. Also try Zappatta's on Wednesday night. (lady's night)
Too all my friends on the Shanghai site. Sorry I have not been very active but have been working on a number of other projects.
Quick report: There are a couple of re-opened BBS on Qing Zhou bei lu in between Guilin Road and Liu Zhou Road for 250 RMB for lao wai.
Also Jiyuan 3 on Wuzhong road has re-opened even though the sign is down. Just past Guilin Road before Wuzhong road #500. Large Roman columns outisde the building.
As for the topic in the title, I have noticed a constant disapointment and am now considering starting a safe amd private harem for a few select individuals in Shanghai. There is a limit at the moment of 10. If anyone is interested, please contact me via PM for more information.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Maddog40; 1111194]There is still Sarcosa in Pudong or another one on Nanjing Road. In the "Fake Market" near the overpass. On 6 fl side elevator. Let us know how it goes.
MD40[/QUOTE]I tried to go on the one in Nanjing lu fake market but the place was closed. There was a note on the door but couldn't read as it was in Chinese. Is it open again?
[QUOTE=Dragon D; 1111292]Too all my friends on the Shanghai site. Sorry I have not been very active but have been working on a number of other projects.
Quick report: There are a couple of re-opened BBS on Qing Zhou bei lu in between Guilin Road and Liu Zhou Road for 250 RMB for lao wai.
Also Jiyuan 3 on Wuzhong road has re-opened even though the sign is down. Just past Guilin Road before Wuzhong road #500. Large Roman columns outisde the building.
As for the topic in the title, I have noticed a constant disapointment and am now considering starting a safe amd private harem for a few select individuals in Shanghai. There is a limit at the moment of 10. If anyone is interested, please contact me via PM for more information.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I can recommed Wuzhong lu in general there is 4 saunas and another 3 or 4 bbs or bbs like places, I personally can only talk about the saunas but waked by the bbs. The saunas were never closed at any time even through expo times.
There was actually a strip along Wuzhong Road close to Guilin of handjob shops that all got shut down.
They also close Jiyuan 3 as you can see, the big sign on the front of the building was torn down and was shut down.
For part of the Expo.
There was another sauna beside it that also closed down.
A few other places closed and some have now re-opened and popped up.
Nice little area.
Also there are two places side by side at #69 Gumei Road and Gudai for 200 RMB.
About 10-15 girls or so between the 2 places.
Then Qingzhou bei road between #470-490 there are a couple of more BBS good for quick in and out
[QUOTE=Morakat;1111294]I tried to go on the one in Nanjing lu fake market but the place was closed. There was a note on the door but couldn't read as it was in Chinese. Is it open again?[/QUOTE]The place is definitely closed. I went there last night, took the elevator to the 6th floor. No action whatsoever. There were 2 men, one of them saying it's closed on this address but moved to another location. The other guy offered me a lift to take me there. I politely refused. Don't jump in a stranger's car not knowing where he's taking you to.
Hey all,
Our old favorite has now moved to #8 Chui Yu south road at the intersection of.
Guyang Road. Dong Sheng Club on the 4th floor.
Have not been personally, got a call from the manager asking me to come visit.
Firstly, thank you pcpc1688, dickie robert, south gate, stegram for your replies. Most gave assurances and some obvious sarcasm.
I'll definitely contact you when in Hangzhou.
Anyway, little Crazy could not think sanely again and went for 2 pops for 90mins at Zhongshan, Guangzhou yesterday at only RMB328 and totally safe. Excellent lineup. Excellent service from papasan. Place is directly opposite the Guotai hotel and sauna. Between these two is a small roundabout. So don't you doubters say I am just hitching a free ride.
This time, resisted BBFS and DATY.
Today in Dongguan and had a good FS massage too.
Funny thing that ISG is not blocked from this hotel.
[QUOTE=Crazyjoe China; 1111692]Firstly, thank you pcpc1688, dickie robert, south gate, stegram for your replies. Most gave assurances and some obvious sarcasm.
I'll definitely contact you when in Hangzhou.
Anyway, little Crazy could not think sanely again and went for 2 pops for 90mins at Zhongshan, Guangzhou yesterday at only RMB328 and totally safe. Excellent lineup. Excellent service from papasan. Place is directly opposite the Guotai hotel and sauna. Between these two is a small roundabout. So don't you doubters say I am just hitching a free ride.
This time, resisted BBFS and DATY.
Today in Dongguan and had a good FS massage too.
Funny thing that ISG is not blocked from this hotel. [/QUOTE]Crazy,
Your most welcome. I love Zhontang. Tai Hao Hotel is the bomb there.
600, 800, 1000rmb gals. Git a 5'9 girl from Dalian yesterday. She was very good to say the least.
Donguan area has Shanghai beat IMHO for sure.
Anyhow, glad little Crazy has a short memory span LOL.
PC out
I will be staying briefly in Shanghai at the Renaissance Yangtze Shanghai Hotel. Can anyone provide feedback on activity in its vicinity?
Thanks.
Dragon D:
I'd like to know more about your harem. I would love to be part of the group enjoying that.
Also, you have seen my ads for the generic viagra / cialis. If you want to make that available to your clients, let me know. Maybe we can work something out there as well.
Ira Johnson.
[QUOTE=Dragon D; 1111292]Too all my friends on the Shanghai site. Sorry I have not been very active but have been working on a number of other projects.
Quick report: There are a couple of re-opened BBS on Qing Zhou bei lu in between Guilin Road and Liu Zhou Road for 250 RMB for lao wai.
Also Jiyuan 3 on Wuzhong road has re-opened even though the sign is down. Just past Guilin Road before Wuzhong road #500. Large Roman columns outisde the building.
As for the topic in the title, I have noticed a constant disapointment and am now considering starting a safe amd private harem for a few select individuals in Shanghai. There is a limit at the moment of 10. If anyone is interested, please contact me via PM for more information.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
Spending 2 nights there next week. Any advice on local activity. Thanks as always for the recommendations
Fellow mongers,
As promised here is my FR for China. Thanks to all the seniors who guided me well for my shanghai and beijing trip.
Day 1: With lots of scope I went and stayed in a hotel near Holiday Inn. I was expecting lot of street action like the olden days. But it was dry. I was walking lot of frustation in mind, then came a voice "Need Massage, Girl, Sex". Felt a big relief at last and Spoke to the guy. He offered girl to hotel 600Rmb, or in his place 300Rmb and also can choose between 8 girls. Was desperate to poke a girl after a long time. So, out of my mind opted for going with the guy to choose girls and incall service. Before that went into the Holiday Inn bar, had a beer and hid all the money, Credit cards everything in my Shoe). Had some 500 rmb in my wallet. He took me to a KTV (I have read so many incidents like this and was very cautious). Went inside 4 girls came and said other were busy. So selected one petite girl. First she said we will talk for a while and then will go for action. Then they asked me to order some drinks for me and girls. Bell rang inside my head and said I know the story and refused. Then they showed the menu and said its 30 Rmb each. So ordered 2. Then the girl was accompanied by another one. They both asked me to lay down on the corner of the room (sofa). Then they stripped my pant and started to blow me and jack me off. I resisted but was in vein. Two girls against one desperate dick! Girls won. Then dressed up and was ready to leave with a girl. They asked me to wait as the bill is coming. Mean time they asked me lot of blah, blah, where I stay? Am I alone? Etc. Then the manager came along with other fat man and one cute girl and showed my Bill 9000USD. I couldn't resist but laughed. I was little bit expecting it. I just showed them my wallet with 500rmb. They took the money and asked me to get more money from my hotel and 2 people escorted me to Holiday Inn. I had a plan already! I know the hotel passages well enough as I had stayed there earlier. When they let me inside the hotel I went to the lift area, then behind the life area is the bar and they have a door which goes to the other side of the road. I took that exit and took a taxi and immediately went of to my hotel. So Lost 500Rmb for a Beer and 2 girls BJ and Hand Job.
Day 2: Moved to a Hotel near Manhattan [email]Bar@154[/email] Nanyang Lu (just 2 mins walk) as per the guidance from seniors in the forum. Went the bar at 9pm and it was deserted. Then after roaming for about 1. 5 hours went back at 10:30pm, saw few girls. Then stayed there till 12:00, so many girls came in. It was packed. Slowly made my choice and asked the girl (ming) for a drink, then negotiated the price. Took her to my room, It was very Girl Friendly Hotel. 1000Rmb for the whole night. Rest you guys know it. Vietnamese girl. Had couple of shots, Good GF experience. Took her number. Kissed her good bye.
Day 3: Another vietnamese girl Ling from same Bar, Good time. Same story. Took her number. Kissed her good bye.
Day 4: Another Vietnamese gril Lee from same bar, awesome boobs and curves. Good GF experience. Took her number. Kissed her good bye.
Day 5: Tried 999, Heiting. Both said they were closed for the time being. Cursed myself and went back to manhattans again and this time saw one girl different from others. Looked like a doll with an innocent face. Went and spoke to her, her name is Anna, she is a Chinese from a town near beijing. Opted for 3 hours [email]session@700Rmb.[/email] So took her to my room. Awesome experience of my life. She was very horny in bed. First had a session and then she offered me a massage. It was amazing and highly relaxing. Then again we had sex in different positions and it was simply WOW! Then took her number.
This is the story so far. Rest will be posted after my beijing trip. Thank you friends for your humble guidance. Posting the photos of two girls for you all. Have phone numbers of all the 4 girls. Any one need the number PM me.
Safe Mongering.
SM.
Are these girls at Manhattan shaved? Asking because as most of you probably know ordinary Chinese girls are not and when I tell them that in my country almost all girls are shaved they start looking at me as if I'm an alien.
[QUOTE=Explicit;1112318]Are these girls at Manhattan shaved? Asking because as most of you probably know ordinary Chinese girls are not and when I tell them that in my country almost all girls are shaved they start looking at me as if I'm an alien.[/QUOTE]As always everybody's experience is different. For the most part Fils and Viets seem to be fairly well shorn where it is hit and miss with Chinese Girls. The fun is in discovering for yourself!
[QUOTE=Sony Man;1112287]Fellow mongers.......As promised here is my FR for China. Thanks to all the seniors who guided me well for my shanghai and beijing trip.[/QUOTE]Sony man. Hats off. Fabulous effort and report.
Your escape story from the touts is hilarious. And a timely warning to everybody. If a tout approaches you. Walk away. WALK AWAY.
Did you catch up with any Senior Members at all? In Beijing?
So all you guys reading Sony's post. That is how you post a FR. Concise and straight to the point. Give locations, price, time negotiated and performance evaluation. Again Sony. WELL DONE. Thanks for your contribution.
[QUOTE=Sony Man; 1112287]Day 1: With lots of scope I went and stayed in a hotel near Holiday Inn. I was expecting lot of street action like the olden days. But it was dry. I was walking lot of frustation in mind, then came a voice "Need Massage, Girl, Sex". Felt a big relief at last and Spoke to the guy. He offered girl to hotel 600Rmb, or in his place 300Rmb and also can choose between 8 girls. Was desperate to poke a girl after a long time. So, out of my mind opted for going with the guy to choose girls and incall service. Before that went into the Holiday Inn bar, had a beer and hid all the money, Credit cards everything in my Shoe). Had some 500 rmb in my wallet. He took me to a KTV (I have read so many incidents like this and was very cautious). Went inside 4 girls came and said other were busy. So selected one petite girl. First she said we will talk for a while and then will go for action. Then they asked me to order some drinks for me and girls. Bell rang inside my head and said I know the story and refused. Then they showed the menu and said its 30 Rmb each. So ordered 2. Then the girl was accompanied by another one. They both asked me to lay down on the corner of the room (sofa). Then they stripped my pant and started to blow me and jack me off. I resisted but was in vein. Two girls against one desperate dick! Girls won. Then dressed up and was ready to leave with a girl. They asked me to wait as the bill is coming. Mean time they asked me lot of blah, blah, where I stay? Am I alone? Etc. Then the manager came along with other fat man and one cute girl and showed my Bill 9000USD. I couldn't resist but laughed. I was little bit expecting it. I just showed them my wallet with 500rmb. They took the money and asked me to get more money from my hotel and 2 people escorted me to Holiday Inn. I had a plan already! I know the hotel passages well enough as I had stayed there earlier. When they let me inside the hotel I went to the lift area, then behind the life area is the bar and they have a door which goes to the other side of the road. I took that exit and took a taxi and immediately went of to my hotel. So Lost 500Rmb for a Beer and 2 girls BJ and Hand Job.
SM. [/QUOTE]Had a similar experience in Hong Kong. If something sounds too good to be true, stay away. Far away. If you do find yourself in trouble, stay calm and formulate an escape plan. Good luck and be careful out there.
[QUOTE=Explicit;1112318]Are these girls at Manhattan shaved? Asking because as most of you probably know ordinary Chinese girls are not and when I tell them that in my country almost all girls are shaved they start looking at me as if I'm an alien.[/QUOTE]No, the girls from Manhattan are not shaved, but trimed. Frankly, I like trimed air better than shaved.
[QUOTE=Daboy12;1112902]No, the girls from Manhattan are not shaved, but trimed. Frankly, I like trimed air better than shaved.[/QUOTE]I've found the girls from the PI are usually shaved; Chinese girls usually not. Not sure about the viets. I prefer not.
Haven't posted here in ages and have not RTFF so I apologize if this information has already been posted.
After having dinner with friends and clubbing, had the cab driver recommend where the BBSs are. After the crackdown from Expo the driver said many of them were back (my friend AG also confirmed that). He took me to this are close to Gubei, Chengjiaqiao and Huijing Road (&31243; &23478; &27211. Where there were indeed about 6 or 7 BBS. Business was good with many men going in and out. Many of the girl were very pretty but seem to have a whole lot of makeup on, one shop had about 6 or 7 all stunningly beautiful.
I chose a shop, went in and chose this tiny little girl that had a huge hairdo like she had stuck her tongue in a wall socket. She was petite and super talkative and did not stop talking. Told me it was 150 for straight sex and 200 for sex and blow. Decided to go with 200 and we started to strip. Must have been around 2 or 3 degrees C in the room and the space heater was not helping, I was finding it hard to concentrate or enjoy it since it was so cold. But she started to give me a CBJ and things started to pick up. She seemed to really enjoy it and spent more time than usual sucking hard and deep.
Soon she finished and she got on top. Average performance but she was really pretty and we both finished together. Didn't get her name but I know they offer take home, but since I had an early flight I could not take her up on it. Will definately give the place another trip when I go back to SH, I love these nice and cheap BBS where you go and do 2 or 3 shots and spend less than 500 RMB.
[QUOTE=Ragnarok42; 1113198]Haven't posted here in ages and have not RTFF so I apologize if this information has already been posted.
After having dinner with friends and clubbing, had the cab driver recommend where the BBSs are. After the crackdown from Expo the driver said many of them were back (my friend AG also confirmed that). He took me to this are close to Gubei, Chengjiaqiao and Huijing Road (&31243; &23478; &27211. Where there were indeed about 6 or 7 BBS. Business was good with many men going in and out. Many of the girl were very pretty but seem to have a whole lot of makeup on, one shop had about 6 or 7 all stunningly beautiful.
I chose a shop, went in and chose this tiny little girl that had a huge hairdo like she had stuck her tongue in a wall socket. She was petite and super talkative and did not stop talking. Told me it was 150 for straight sex and 200 for sex and blow. Decided to go with 200 and we started to strip. Must have been around 2 or 3 degrees C in the room and the space heater was not helping, I was finding it hard to concentrate or enjoy it since it was so cold. But she started to give me a CBJ and things started to pick up. She seemed to really enjoy it and spent more time than usual sucking hard and deep.
Soon she finished and she got on top. Average performance but she was really pretty and we both finished together. Didn't get her name but I know they offer take home, but since I had an early flight I could not take her up on it. Will definately give the place another trip when I go back to SH, I love these nice and cheap BBS where you go and do 2 or 3 shots and spend less than 500 RMB. [/QUOTE]Hey Ragor,
I tried to locate these streets but unsuccessful. Where are any Subway lines as a reference please. I also find banging a cute girl difficult when my dick is frozen too lol
PC out
Thank you Bad Boy Billy. Thanks for encouragement. Guys I have the phone numbers of all the girls. Anyone interested PM me. Thanks and Cheers.
SM.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy; 1112497]Sony man. Hats off. Fabulous effort and report.
Your escape story from the touts is hilarious. And a timely warning to everybody. If a tout approaches you. Walk away. WALK AWAY.
Did you catch up with any Senior Members at all? In Beijing?
So all you guys reading Sony's post. That is how you post a FR. Concise and straight to the point. Give locations, price, time negotiated and performance evaluation. Again Sony. WELL DONE. Thanks for your contribution. [/QUOTE]
Fellow mongers, I forgot to mention one thing in my report. Sorry. The hotel I stayed was excellent for Mongering and also for accommodation. 4 Star Hotel, Recently Refurbished, Clean, Big, with seperate rooms. Very Good Stay and the best off all is I have paid only 399RMB Per night. I think its very cheap when you compare the location and accessibility. Its just 2 or 3 mins walk from Manhattans. Girl friendly hotel. No Questions asked in the lobby. I can post the name of the hotel here, But I am afraid LE Might read this and the hotel may get screwed. It will affect all the other mongering brothers who use this hotel. And one more TIP. Use C-TRIP for hotel booking and flight booking its very cheap. Any one needs the hotel name PM me (not being rude, just being cautious). Cheers guys.
SM
[QUOTE=Daboy12;1112902]No, the girls from Manhattan are not shaved, but trimed. Frankly, I like trimed air better than shaved.[/QUOTE]How can you make a statement like that? I think a more appropriate statement is "the girls I have picked up were not shaved, normally trimmed"
There are exceptions, as I have experienced from the hairy Bush to completed shaven, smooth as a baby's butt.
this weekend i've been first time to 999 sauna. it's not as large as for instance riverview but simply clean and the guys are friendly at all. after having a shower, sauna and bath i took on the typical "kimono" and was guided to the glass bowl. curtain raised. exiting situation.
more than 20 gals there, all nice and felt a little nervous to choose. don't wanted to be impolite the others, even knowing that they probably would not care. i selected one with something cute. i asked the guy whether she like foreigners or not, because i already made some bad experiences where the gals were afraid of the little friends sizes. (even though it's probably not much more than western average) actually he ignored my question and asked her directly to come out. and yes, she knocked him with some words like ". why me.".
fine, not a good start, i thought. but actually what happens than in the room was excellent. shower, washing, water games, licking and sucking everywhere. but when we she pulled me in, she only wanted to have me on top, no variants. this turned me off a little and i speed up to finish.
after finish she directly pulled me to shower, fast washing, getting on and out. it took appr. 45 min and just one shot and the damage, even though i was there before 6pm was 800 rmb. that was much more relaxing at riverview, where i paid 700- for 80 min and multiple action.
so, i'm not sure, whether i should give it another chance. but 800- under time pressure is not what i'm looking for.
anybody had similar experiences or just my bad luck?
Hi guys!
After a very long while, I have gone back to Sacrosa (it is near my place, so I always end up there)
Was very busy and onlu had a line up of 8 or 10, decided for 281, nice face, tall and good body. For the first time, she puts a stop watch on the table so she can control the time (think we are starting bad with this) , service is as usual, nothing special, but, at the end, I only want here to BBJ, she lays down and I am on top of her f*king her mouth hardly when I come all over her face, surprise she says nothing, she just lays there and waits me to finish and starts laughing. So, only for this ending it has been worth it.
In the time I have been to Sacrosa I have come in the mouth of one, and done a facial to another, so, it is starting to be my favourite place.
Hope that enxt time there is a bigger line up, so that I can get 2 to come with me (that is what I had in mind today)
Hi guys,
I post in Hong Kong and can help anyone out if they come here.
I did RTFF but need some general advice. I'll be in SH in a few days on business. I'm white and I speak little to no Mandarin. Can someone suggest a good hotel, doesn't have to be luxurious but clean, up to western standard and GIRL FRIENDLY!
Second, where are the best bars or pickup joints to get freebie one night stands? I prefer this to WGs as WGs are plentiful in HK.
If I end up going with a WG, I'd like some of the 200RMB girls, not a place like Manhattans which is too expensive and just like the girly bars in Wan Chai in HK.
Anyone had any luck with CL casual encounters? Other internet hunting grounds?
Any other advice is appreciated!
Went there today cause its fricking cold out.
Picked #310 from Hunan, petite thing about 4'10 and 90lbs. She was so cute and 19yrs old. Hmmmmm.
Anyway, BBBJCIM, and after ward she cleaned me up with hot water in her mouth as she sucked the last drops out, nice!
Prior to that, alittle CG, doggie, mish.
2nd pop was BBBJ, and HJ to finish as the little girl's mouth was tired after catbath. She also did sucking on feet and hands. Hmmm passed on the feet thing really.
Got get her fellows. She's very nice.
PC out
[quote=whosme69; 1113428]this weekend i've been first time to 999 sauna. it's not as large as for instance riverview but simply clean and the guys are friendly at all. after having a shower, sauna and bath i took on the typical "kimono" and was guided to the glass bowl. curtain raised. exiting situation.
more than 20 gals there, all nice and felt a little nervous to choose. don't wanted to be impolite the others, even knowing that they probably would not care. i selected one with something cute. i asked the guy whether she like foreigners or not, because i already made some bad experiences where the gals were afraid of the little friends sizes. (even though it's probably not much more than western average) actually he ignored my question and asked her directly to come out. and yes, she knocked him with some words like ". why me.".
fine, not a good start, i thought. but actually what happens than in the room was excellent. shower, washing, water games, licking and sucking everywhere. but when we she pulled me in, she only wanted to have me on top, no variants. this turned me off a little and i speed up to finish.
after finish she directly pulled me to shower, fast washing, getting on and out. it took appr. 45 min and just one shot and the damage, even though i was there before 6pm was 800 rmb. that was much more relaxing at riverview, where i paid 700- for 80 min and multiple action.
so, i'm not sure, whether i should give it another chance. but 800- under time pressure is not what i'm looking for.
anybody had similar experiences or just my bad luck?[/quote]i've been there plenty of times before (unfortunately in the us now.)
they charge 680 if you leave before 6pm. so get there around 4, spend an hr to 1. 5 hrs, get out of there before 6pm, and then you'll get the discounted price.
experience totally depends on the girl, you got an "average" experience. i've definitely had better and the girls will be better to you if they remember you. i got the same girl 3 times in a row and asked for her number at the front desk prior to entering the fishbowl. she gets an extra 60 rmb tip just for you doing that. luckily, she was excited and even did red rope on me (yes they have red rope at 999 if you can get the larger rooms)
hope this helps.
The adventure of SonyMan had a happy ending (no pun intended but the escape was quite edgy) you certainly will stay away from the area in the future. They might have elephant's memory.
Having saud that I keep on warning friends that if you go to police and mention a bar scam and you are an innocent victim, the police will raid the place as they need to show off to foreigners they fight the organized crime.
Then the police will get a video of you being sucked, a filled condom will appear in the recording to testify the deal, and you will be in serious but very serious troubles. Your only escape plan will bevto rush to airport and jump on first flight out of the country and never show up at China immigration or apply for visa again.
Not for nothing they moved you to a corner of the sofa, maybe more in favor of the camera.
All in all better stay out of these dodgy actions. Nobody gives you anything for free in Asia (at least in the rest of the world they usually don't promise much, but scams do happen in Europe too.
Can someone please recommend a girl / s at Hailang who'll be working this cny? My fav girls 881/882 will be heading home before my next PVG trip.
Thanks
[quote=whosme69; 1113428]this weekend i've been first time to 999 sauna. it's not as large as for instance riverview but simply clean and the guys are friendly at all. after having a shower, sauna and bath i took on the typical "kimono" and was guided to the glass bowl. curtain raised. exiting situation.
more than 20 gals there, all nice and felt a little nervous to choose. don't wanted to be impolite the others, even knowing that they probably would not care. i selected one with something cute. i asked the guy whether she like foreigners or not, because i already made some bad experiences where the gals were afraid of the little friends sizes. (even though it's probably not much more than western average) actually he ignored my question and asked her directly to come out. and yes, she knocked him with some words like ". why me.".
fine, not a good start, i thought. but actually what happens than in the room was excellent. shower, washing, water games, licking and sucking everywhere. but when we she pulled me in, she only wanted to have me on top, no variants. this turned me off a little and i speed up to finish.
after finish she directly pulled me to shower, fast washing, getting on and out. it took appr. 45 min and just one shot and the damage, even though i was there before 6pm was 800 rmb. that was much more relaxing at riverview, where i paid 700- for 80 min and multiple action.
so, i'm not sure, whether i should give it another chance. but 800- under time pressure is not what i'm looking for.
anybody had similar experiences or just my bad luck? [/quote]i guess it is just your bad luck. you went there at the wrong time and picked the wrong girl.
oh and another hint to service at 999 is the background music.
i learned this from my three years of experience, although i am not sure if this is still current.
if you hear slow melodies or english songs means business is slow, service time 75 min.
if they play chinese track, then business is normal, service time is 60 min.
if you hear a japanese track, then business is hot, service time reduced to 45 min.
i'm asian, so i am not sure how the girls react to white meat.
I start with thanks to all BM that have reported here before, without U I would have been difficult to find my way around.
Anyway I only had 2 days in SH, and no time o explorer and look for something new.
1st day. I started with 999 and it was open and I just walked in, no VIP card or anything.
My first fishbowl experience in SH.
Around 20 girls in the line up and some really hot ones.
The one I picked a 1, 65 tall one with a police outfit from Chongqing that had a nice smile, maybe not the hottest one but she had an style that I liked and she got to me somehow.
When the selection was finished they send out wrong girl (mixed up the numbers) and it was some shouting and rumble before everything was straighten out. Something the girl I picked was very happy over back in the room for some reason.
Back in the room (that was nice) she try to sell me up on a 2d girl and I agreed to take a look, and well that one was hot 2 so I ended up with a double. Worth every penny.
They did a number on me that was one of the better. Just woooow.
A double BBBJ that was just something else after the 1st pop to get me up for the 2d round, feeling wise and the visual effect was just fantastic.
Those 2 did it all except for the backdoor. They clearly wanted repeat biz and give me there number and everything so I could book them the next day.
And my 1st pic obviously really like foreigners for some reason. More fun if I got it right. But I lost everything so sorry boys no info about that, in think it was 287 and 188 but probably wrong,
Just look for a girl with smiling dimples (I think that's the English word for it) and long curly hair
1300 something the bill ended up with.
After that I went to Judy's and Manhattan. And ended up with a small Chinese girl with a huge rack from judys, one of the better natural ones I have had in China. U can't miss here a small girl with a huge set I front, looked artificially made but she claimed that they were real and they felt real. Great girl started with a god massage and 2 really nice sessions.
Woke me up in the morning for the 2de round, a great girl. Don't know if she is there over the CNY, told me she was going home but who knows, all night 1000.
Day 2. Daytime.
Sacrosa sauna, a hard place to find. Thanks for the info about that and to add something. Look for Pizza hut in the corner close Marriot, enter the square and look for the BIG round window with a arch over you can't miss that.
Well. The selection there wasn't that god, got 3 girls (5-7) to chose from that wasn't close to 999 the day before and from my memory I asked for 188 from a previous report in ISG but after a while I got the info that she wasn't working that day.
In the end I picked 272 a OK girl that did a solid class act job with me, nothing that I will remember but a really god job well worth it. 575yuan I think, with a beer and a package of cigarettes (I was finished 17, 30, probably can have something to do with the price).
Have to add that the room was not that god, no shower or anything so that may have to do something with the price to.
Anyway when I finally had picked the girl and was walking to the room I met at stunning hot one, and when I was finished there was another stunner standing close the selection area.
I think it was just bad timing for me in that place, but I also think it's more of a place where U get the hot ones more easy if U are a regular.
With the fact in hand I should have gone back for a 2d round with the 2 in 999.
Later in the evening I got a little bit to drunk and ended up with 2 viets from Manhattan. Well it didn't ended up so god, should have gone to sleep instead, but the brain refuses to realize that the body is getting old, maybe time to start to get some insurance help from the blue ones in the future.
Anyway I remember them as hot as hell in the club, but looking at the pic the day after, well I must have been pretty drunk, they were OK but not as hot as I remeber them hehehe, but thats life. But they manage to bbj squeeze on pop out of me at least. Can't remember what I pay them but probably too much.
Probably fun girls but that evening I wasn't in my best shape.
Whosme69.
How the girls react when U pic them is nothing to bother about, I don't think I have ever had a line up in China where the girl shows in front of everybody that she was happy that I took here.
Back in the room it's another thing. And size (and I am just normal) I always ask in the room if it's OK, if they think U to big, just ask to change politely (only happen to me 2 times over the years)
I think most Chinese girls like lowais so don't worry about that, no need to ask its more likely that you mess things up is they don't understand you correctly.
And when you go to this type of places it's a hit and miss, mostly hit but sometimes it's just don't click, just the wrong girl at the wrong time, nothing to do about that.
Well that was that for this time, and thanks again to all BM that reported here.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1113443]Hi guys,
Second, where are the best bars or pickup joints to get freebie one night stands? I prefer this to WGs as WGs are plentiful in HK.
Any other advice is appreciated![/QUOTE]Yeah, people in hell want ice water too! Where are the best bars to get a freebie one night stand? If we knew, we would not be lurking on this board, but in the sack with our freebies.
[QUOTE=Carage;1113940]Oh and another hint to service at 999 is the background music.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the hind, that's really interesting, I'm going to listen to it next time.
Hi guys.
Recently I went to a spa where I had the best sex (showering, blow job, facial, etc.) ever with a real stunning gal. Now I know better, why if you got it once, you have to return!
She used for some licking games a kind of liquid in a cup. Seems to be a mixture of water and olive oil or similar. But it looks real like egg white. I tasted it and for sure it wasn't.
Anybody have an idea about that liquid? I really want to know it in order to use it whit my own girlfriend if she comes to China again.
Thanks for any feedback
[QUOTE=Whosme69; 1114382]Hi guys.
Seems to be a mixture of water and olive oil or similar. But it looks real like egg white.
Anybody have an idea about that liquid? I really want to know it in order to use it whit my own girlfriend if she comes to China again.
Thanks for any feedback[/QUOTE]Sounds like her previous customers' sperm!
[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls;1114447]Sounds like her previous customers' sperm![/QUOTE]Ha ha ha ha ha :-D.
That was good.
AF
I really prefer to pinpoint where I am going with google maps before I try to get there. One of the things that messed me up was not realizing that Nan means South. The address for this place is 1085 Pudong Nan Lu. In google maps (on your phone or computer) , use 1085 pudong south road and it will pop right up. Effortless to find the place after that.
Wednesday night had 10-15 girls. Decent looking. Nothing outrageously hot, but I don't have much calibration yet because it's my first. #296 was my choice. Tall. Some meat on her, but not fat. Good tits. Good ass. 24 years old. Made some eye contact.
She didn't like kissing. Average BBBJ. Tasty Y. Mish and doggy were good, but she complained about size a lot. She knew enough english to ask about names, ages, where I'm from, with a bit of arm waiving, etc. Nothing else. Only complaint I can think of is the rooms there, at least this night, were too warm. By the end of it, felt like a sauna.
676 RMB. Worth it. Will definitely go back.
Hi,
Tomorrow morning I arrive at Hong Qiao Airport at 10. 00 oclock. I have to wait till 17:00 for the train to Ningbo. Where can I go in this time?
BR,
John
[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls;1114447]Sounds like her previous customer's sperm![/QUOTE]ROFL
Ooops.
[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1114457]Ha ha ha ha ha :-D.
That was good.
AF[/QUOTE]Good what? The taste? LMAO
After reading so many posts about these places I finally made it over to Bodi tonight. I tried to go there on Sunday and from the thread thought it was near Longyang MTR so went there and walked around and realized it is not nearby. Went home and found it on the map so easier to find tonight.
Found the right entrance, went in and ushered to the locker room by a bunch of different guys and then one stands there while you strip down and hangs your clothes in the locker for you. No towel, just ushered to the shower. Took a shower and then outside a guy hands you a towel and watches you dry off and then hands you the white robe and shorts. I had started getting worried it was a gay place, LOL.
Next ushered to a holding area, lounge chairs and TV with a Chinese drama. Must have been a bit crowded because had to wait 30 mins. Before I got called to visit the fish bowl. The fish bowl was nice; I love fish bowls. About 20-25 girls, all looked better than 6 and many I would have liked to try. Ended up picking a very cute, mid-height girl but when we got to the room and were chatting she told me she is only 17 so I told her that is too young for me and I asked her if I could change, which was okay. (Sorry guys, my daughter is 17 so I just didn't want to tap that).
The next girl was nice and she said she was 22. The room was nice, clean bed, clean shower area with bed for the body-to-body massage. She had medium to small tits but did an adequate job here. Nothing to rave about as I've done this years ago in Japan and Korea.
Next into the bed room for the BJ and FS. Better than adequate but not the best. All in 800rmb.
Bodi is clean and provides a very good service. The girls all looked good and seemed pretty friendly. I can see why it is addictive, but then again, for me, a BBS is addictive too. Will probably go back, or will try one of the other ones as I like variety and different experiences.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1113528]The adventure of SonyMan had a happy ending (no pun intended but the escape was quite edgy) you certainly will stay away from the area in the future. They might have elephant's memory.
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All in all better stay out of these dodgy actions. Nobody gives you anything for free in Asia (at least in the rest of the world they usually don't promise much, but scams do happen in Europe too. [/QUOTE]Speaking of KTVs, I was approched by an attractivce young woman while walking along zhangyang lu last Friday night. She wanted to get me a girl by taking me to her KTV. I had no interest in going to a KTV to get a girl but I really liked this girl. She was short but really cute and we had a good chat so I got her number and she said she didn't sell herself but would consider being friends and I should just wait for her to call. I told her that I would never go to a KTV because I could never tell if it is fair or a scam and she ended up admitting that her place also would try to scam you.
She called me later and said she wouldn't sleep with me tonight but she could bring a friend who would and we negotiated it to 600rmb. So later that night she came over with her friend who was not 1/2 as hot as her but I ended up doing her while the one I wanted waited outside the bedroom. Her friend enjoyed the sex more than me but it still ended up with a smile on my face.
Anyway, I have a date with the hot one tomorrow night. She said she wants no money. Maybe I'll learn more about the KTV scams then.
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1114567]S Maybe I'll learn more about the KTV scams then.[/QUOTE]Enjoy it. And share it with us.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1113528]The adventure of SonyMan had a happy ending (no pun intended but the escape was quite edgy) you certainly will stay away from the area in the future. They might have elephant's memory.
Having saud that I keep on warning friends that if you go to police and mention a bar scam and you are an innocent victim, the police will raid the place as they need to show off to foreigners they fight the organized crime.
Then the police will get a video of you being sucked, a filled condom will appear in the recording to testify the deal, and you will be in serious but very serious troubles. Your only escape plan will bevto rush to airport and jump on first flight out of the country and never show up at China immigration or apply for visa again.
Not for nothing they moved you to a corner of the sofa, maybe more in favor of the camera.
All in all better stay out of these dodgy actions. Nobody gives you anything for free in Asia (at least in the rest of the world they usually don't promise much, but scams do happen in Europe too. [/QUOTE]So how will that video help the KTV? Since prostitution is illegal in China I can't get the whole picture of being set up that way by the KTV.
[QUOTE=Explicit;1114787]So how will that video help the KTV? Since prostitution is illegal in China I can't get the whole picture of being set up that way by the KTV.[/QUOTE]In brief:
If you report a scam to the police (and the venue is really dodgy) and you have done sex there you will be then in troubles.
Police will raid the place based on your statement.
The place will know why.
The place will hand over (not necessarily openly) a video of you having sex with a Chinese girl.
You will become part of a prostitution act and as a foreigner you are a looser anyhow and you wil be in serious troubles.
It is a revenge from the KTV.
Anybody been to go go China or flying dragon at their new location by the portman hotel (forget the street name) , any good / what are they like?
Also any news on manhatten's population during CNY? Totally empty or still worth a visit
After a half year in sauna-free America, I'll be in Shanghai for the next couple of months. Been reading the forum over the past week to figure out where to go and decided to celebrate my newfound sauna freedom today at Heting.
Took the subway there and entered around noon. The place is probably one of the more elaborate and well thought out saunas I've seen including the whole special section behind the door that looks like part of the Wall bit.
There were about 20 girls in the lineup. No one was really all that attractive with pretty much everyone in the 4-7 range. I picked one of the girls who was smiling at me, #228, who is 25yo, from Harbin, and has been in Shanghai for the past year and a half. While her face might have been a 7 at best, her body was on the tighter range and she had nice firm B cups with erect nipples.
Anyway. What followed was pretty standard sauna action. Fire and ice, catbath, AR, BBBJ, doggy, finish in mish.
One unique twist to the fire was she licking my fingers with her tongue while sucking on them. I've never had that done before. The sex part was pretty mechanical with the requisite fake moaning. She was also pretty loose for an average sized guy like me so she might be able to accommodate those of you who are big enough for barnyard animals.
Afterwards, she left me her phone number and I then relaxed in the lounge room watching women's tennis while munching on some of the complimentary food.
Damage for the day. 600RMB.
Overall, I'd have to agree with the general consensus that its a nice place to relax and spend an afternoon at a reasonable cost.
Tomorrow. Hailang!
[QUOTE=Whosme69;1114656]Enjoy it. And share it with us.[/QUOTE]She ended up coming over at 11pm last night and we had a great time together; no money asked for, none given. Didn't learn much about KTV scams than what all seem to already know. This KTV has people that hang out in front of various hotels and offer them woman and if you're interested, they take you to the KTV and pull the typical scam. Bring you whiskey, a snack, and a few girls will come in and maybe give you a handjob and then you will get a very big bill.
She said Americans, French and Germans typically balked the most and paid the least. Malaysians were the easiest to scam and I think that's because in Malaysia KTV sex is a bit more legit. Some Japanese pay 20, 000rmb without questioning, but some others call the cops at 110 and that causes the KTV trouble. She didn't say anything when I asked about video cameras to get revenge on the cop callers, either because they don't do that or she just didn't want to say anything or she didn't understand me well enough. Her English is just so-so. She's a hot little number but I have to slow her down becuase she already has visions of moving in with me.
Re the WGs who post pics and phone numbers in the women seeking men section on craigslist worth calling? How much do they typically charge? Do they look like their pictures? Any info or advice appreciated.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115430]Re the WGs who post pics and phone numbers in the women seeking men section on craigslist worth calling? How much do they typically charge? Do they look like their pictures? Any info or advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]Forget CL for outcall services. Pictures ALL fake. Charges 1000-1500 RMB. Not worth it.
Head down to Manhattan / Judys / the Tong Mill and pick a girl from there. Same cost but at least you know what you get.
Re the WGs who post pics and phone numbers in the women seeking men section on craigslist worth calling? How much do they typically charge? Do they look like their pictures? Any info or advice appreciated.
Guys, I would like your opinion on the strangest woman situation I've ever been a Part of. Sorry in advance for poor typing I am on an iPhone.
I'm in a hotel, my first time in shanghai. I take a taxi to xin tian di to get food and drink and hopefully pick up a freebie. Many women hassled me, you want girl? Etc. I waves them all away. Tonight I decided to have some balls and talk to girls. It was a freebie or nothing. Sometimes I need the thrill of the chase.
Two girls call out to me. I figure they're WGs but I say Hello. They ask me where I'm from, am I here on business, etc. No mention of girls, money or KTVs. They ask me if I want to have a drink. I tell them I haven't eaten yet and I was about to go eat and would they like to join me? Sure. So off we go to a restaurant. I order food and they just order juice, we talk about a lot of stuff, occupations, families, etc.
The one who was aggressive in getting my attention, Susan, wasn't that attractive but hEr friend Angela was smoking hot and looked young. Later she showed me her I'd and she was only 18! So I focused my flirting more on her while maintaining friendly conversation with Susan as well. I was getting a great vibe from Angela and she said too bad you don't live here, you're such a great guy and I'd like to have a boyfriend like you, you're so cute with your blond hair, etc.
Then Susan goes to the bathroom and a gela and I are still talking, I move in for a kiss and she returns it, but I go for tongue and she pulls away a bit. She says there are too many people here so I say then why don't we go somewhere we can be alone? She says yes I want to. Jackpot! Now I have to figure out how to get rid of Susan. Susan returns and says she wants to go dance while I finish eating. So I continue to talk to Angela. Susan returns from dancing with a guy she met on the dance floor, an Italian. I couldn't believe my luck, thinking my wingman had appeared out of nowhere and he'd take her and leave me with Angela.
So I pay the bill and we decide to go to a bar. We are going to get in a taxi and then I realize the Italian guy is gone. I ask what happened to him. Susan says he wanted her to go to his hotel with him and she doesn't do that the first time she meets someone so she asked him not to join us. Fuck, now I'm stuck with Susan again.
We go to a bar and get drinks and a fruit plate. By now Angela is saying she's coming home with me, calling me darling and baby and ladykillers, etc. We have our hands all o Er each other and are eating fruit out of each other's mouths. Getting hot in anticipation of fucking an 18 year old freebie and probably one of the top 5 hottest girls I've ever fucked. But Susan is still there and I got a bit of a cockblocker vibe from her. Surprisingly she says, why don't you two go and I'll go home? YES!
At the taxi stand susan asks me cor her taxi fare home. She says she lives far away and needs 200 RMB. Really? What the fuck, given the situation though I give it to her. Now I'm finally alone with Angela in the taxi headed toward my hotel. And she drops the bomb.
"you're going to give me something, right?"
Fuck.
I deflated like the hindenberg. I have a LOT of experience with WGs so paying doesn't bother me, but if you hunt for a WG you k ow the dynamic going in and you get in that frame of mind. But this was hot romantic and I was psyched because I thought angela really liked me. And remember she has no idea I have WG experience.
So I say how much do you want? She said she didn't want to name a price. I said okay 800? She said no. I said 1000? She said 2000. Now by this time my heart wasn't in it anymore. I said I am confused why you asked for money, I didn't think you were that type of girl. She says I am not that type of girl, but you are only in town for a few days so I can't have you as a boyfriend, so if we are just going to have a temporary thing I need some money. Any girl in China would do the same, she claimed. Ok I thought, she's hot, young and seems to really like me. We just spent 5 hours together with no mention of money and she seemed very sincere. She told me, if I didn't like you I wouldn't spe the the night with you for any price. I really like you so much. I just need money.
She could tell I was disappointed. I said ok. By this time we were at my hotel. We walked across the street to a bar to talk it out. She said she wanted half first. I said ok let's get to my room and I can give you half. She said no I need it before we get to your room. I said I don't have that much cash on me. She said let's go to the ATM. What the fuck? So now I can't tell what's up with this girl. Is she going to scam me? So I say no let's go to my room, I need to know you will actually come with me.
She got very upset, saying I didn't trust her and I ruined her mood and desire, etc and why did I change from such a great guy to a mean guy once she mentioned money? I told her the whole situation was very confusing for me and I would be ok giving her 1000 now. But she was clearly hurt and just waved a taxi. She said she was just not in the mood anymore. But she then gave me her number (real, I tested it) and said I should call her tomorrow and after we both cooled off we'd have a better time together, shed meet me without Susan and spend the whole night with me.
So fucking strange. Angela can't be a WG because she'd have taken my 2000 for a fuck no matter her mood, and if she and Susan were a team Susan would have gladly stayed with the Italian guy for money and not kicked him out. I understand there are mercenary girls who Fu k for money but aren't WGs. But she spent 5 hours with me, she was very affectionate and she was really hurt when she thought I no longer trusted her.
What do you guys think of all this? I don't know if I should really meet her again tonight although I told her I would. I have no problem paying a premium price for a premium girl. But I thought I had bagged her with my looks, with and charm and now it's less appealing. Maybe I DID bag her with my looks, with and charm and she just has a certain world View where all this makes sense to her.
Would you guys call her? What do you think is up with her?
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1115532]Guys, I would like your opinion on the strangest woman situation I've ever been a Part of. Sorry in advance for poor typing I am on an iPhone.
So fucking strange. Angela can't be a WG because she'd have taken my 2000 for a fuck no matter her mood, and if she and Susan were a team Susan would have gladly stayed with the Italian guy for money and not kicked him out. I understand there are mercenary girls who Fu k for money but aren't WGs. But she spent 5 hours with me, she was very affectionate and she was really hurt when she thought I no longer trusted her.
What do you guys think of all this? I don't know if I should really meet her again tonight although I told her I would. I have no problem paying a premium price for a premium girl. But I thought I had bagged her with my looks, with and charm and now it's less appealing. Maybe I DID bag her with my looks, with and charm and she just has a certain world View where all this makes sense to her.
Would you guys call her? What do you think is up with her? [/QUOTE]Brilliant report, thanks Johnny. Last time I was freebie hunting 5 years back I also felt a bit like that.
To summarize my opinion: "its like two virgins fucking". Neither you NOR the girls were quite sure whether this was P4P or a freebie, so both sides got is all messed up.
The girls were not pros but thought that they might want to try a "laowai". They have heard second hand stories from friends about laowai boyfriend with money. But don't want to be a "bad girl". You were honest about your intentions, your plans (short term visit) so she can't pretend that you will be her "boyfriend". This hardly ever works out.
Believe me, the freebie hunters (in both sexes) , are hard boiled liers when it comes to flirting. Expectations only match when an illusion is built. The guy tells the girl he comes to town regularely. The girl ask some money and / or presents under a pretext and both side "believe" it was not P4P.
I can't play that game (to much emotional stress) , so I gave up freebie hunting altogether.
Any girl that approaches you in China is unlikely to be freebie.
Dear All,
I would like to share with a site that I just came across listing a lot of apartment girls and QQ contacts:
It's called 5CCL and you can access all the posts by sharing your own link after signing up:
[url]http://www.5ccl.info/ons/?92654-1.html[/url]
You can use Google Translate to understand what it's all about.
Have fun and happy new year.
You hit the nail on the head. I'll see where it goes tonight.
[QUOTE=Mtraveller; 1115554]Brilliant report, thanks Johnny. Last time I was freebie hunting 5 years back I also felt a bit like that.
To summarize my opinion: "its like two virgins fucking". Neither you NOR the girls were quite sure whether this was P4P or a freebie, so both sides got is all messed up.
The girls were not pros but thought that they might want to try a "laowai". They have heard second hand stories from friends about laowai boyfriend with money. But don't want to be a "bad girl". You were honest about your intentions, your plans (short term visit) so she can't pretend that you will be her "boyfriend". This hardly ever works out.
Believe me, the freebie hunters (in both sexes) , are hard boiled liers when it comes to flirting. Expectations only match when an illusion is built. The guy tells the girl he comes to town regularely. The girl ask some money and / or presents under a pretext and both side "believe" it was not P4P.
I can't play that game (to much emotional stress) , so I gave up freebie hunting altogether. [/QUOTE]
I found myself with a free Sunday in Pudong; no customers to entertain, no schedule and a few thousand rmb to burn so decided to head to Bodi for my first sauna experience. A few months ago I had attempted to break my Sauna cherry at Sarcosa but when I went in there I was told they were too busy and there was a 1 hour wait.
The directions to Bodi given here are bang on. You can also Google Bodi Boutique Hotel and the address is readily available. Entrance to the sauna is to the left of the main entrance.
The fishbowl was great with 15. 20 girls in the 5-9 range. It was a little overwhelming as I did not expect to be in the same room as the girls but rather thought I would be anonymous behind a two way mirror or something. Rather hurriedly, I chose 510, a petite young lady from Dongbei.
Won't bore you with all of the details as everything went according to script and has been reported here often enough, with a few exceptions. First, I was not offered the option of a second girl at any time during the shower / wash and second as near as I can tell my session was 60 minutes tops. By that time I was more than satisfied so I did not complain, and as a non Chinese speaking laowai I would not have known how to anyway.
Finally, I thought it was sort of cute / funny that she seemed endlessly fascinated with my laowai nose. By no means do I have a big schnoz. It is a classic, average size roman nose but for some reason she could not stop reaching out to poke, prod and study it when we were not otherwise involved.
All in all it was a positive experience that went by too fast. Next time I will take my time in the fishbowl and not make a rushed decision as I did here.
Pardon my ignorance but what's QQ?
[QUOTE=Bblover; 1115614]Dear All,
I would like to share with a site that I just came across listing a lot of apartment girls and QQ contacts:
It's called 5CCL and you can access all the posts by sharing your own link after signing up:
[url]http://www.5ccl.info/ons/?92654-1.html[/url]
You can use Google Translate to understand what it's all about.
Have fun and happy new year. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115619]Pardon my ignorance but what's QQ?[/QUOTE]A chat service like MSN Messenger or Yahoo Messenger.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115619]Pardon my ignorance but what's QQ?[/QUOTE]A Chinese imitation of MSN and facebook.
Almost all locals use it.
IMHO Johnny you are barking up the wrong tree.
You won't find many real Freebies in bars that cater for expats.
Its market based economic reality.
If you are looking for a freebie, catch a plane home go, to your local bar and focus on the skanky looking ladies!
China is country where $ is almost a religion
The other night I called one of the craigslist ads for massage (ling ling). A girl answered and said she'd be right over. Well it took nearly an hour, but she finally showed up. She definitely was NOT the girl pictured in the ad. She tried to say that she changed her hairstyle, but she knew I wasn't buying it. She was decent enough looking, so I thought I'd go for it. The ad said 200 RMB for an hour massage. She said she wanted 600 for nude massage and HJ (no oral). I agreed. She then told me to pay her in advance. I told her I would pay her when she was done, but she kept demanding I pay her first. I didn't want to give in, and was getting tired of arguing. I just wanted her to go. She asked for 100 RMB for the taxi. I gave her 40. She refused to leave. She still wanted to do the massage for 600, but at this point I was not in the mood. And after our shouting match I couldn't see how either of us could enjoy it. I finally opened the hotel room door, put her purse in the hallway. When she still did not leave, I grabbed her and forcibly removed her from the room. Fortunately, she left without anymore yelling. After that I decided no more craigslist. Anyone else have any better experiences?
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115482]Re the WGs who post pics and phone numbers in the women seeking men section on craigslist worth calling? How much do they typically charge? Do they look like their pictures? Any info or advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Acejack; 1115633]IMHO Johnny you are barking up the wrong tree.
You won't find many real Freebies in bars that cater for expats.
Its market based economic reality.
If you are looking for a freebie, catch a plane home go, to your local bar and focus on the skanky looking ladies!
China is country where $ is almost a religion[/QUOTE]Tons of freebies in China. Mind you I never find in in bars. If you are no older than 35 maybe bars will work. But being in my mid-50s, I use the net and have a very high success rate with ladies 25 to 35 years old.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1115630]A Chinese imitation of MSN and facebook.
Almost all locals use it. [/QUOTE]QQ was created way before Facebook and I believed that MSN chat and QQ was launch around the same time.
Mmlouie
Seventeen, I think you did the correct thing.
What is the legal age for this in China? Stupid question but is there a legal age in Shanghai.
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1114554]About 20-25 girls, all looked better than 6 and many I would have liked to try. Ended up picking a very cute, mid-height girl but when we got to the room and were chatting she told me she is only 17 so I told her that is too young for me and I asked her if I could change, which was okay. (Sorry guys, my daughter is 17 so I just didn't want to tap that).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mmlouie; 1115645]QQ was created way before Facebook and I believed that MSN chat and QQ was launch around the same time.
Mmlouie[/QUOTE]They added a bunch of features AFTER whatever MSN and Facebook came out with.
That goes for voice support, blogs / social networking, and Flash games.
The point is that is just something the locals use all the time.
Westerners tend to be very suspicious of it because no body believes the company and its service could exist thus far without giving the PRC gov an exclusive backdoor.
Oh, I almost forgot. QQ was called QICQ when it launched, it made no effort to conceal who it was ripping off.
The name was changed QQ after a lawsuit and foreign capital threatened to pull out.
If I remember things correctly.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1115532]Guys, I would like your opinion on the strangest woman situation I've ever been a Part of. Sorry in advance for poor typing I am on an iPhone.
I'm in a hotel, my first time in shanghai. I take a taxi to xin tian di to get food and drink and hopefully pick up a freebie. Many women hassled me, you want girl? Etc. I waves them all away. Tonight I decided to have some balls and talk to girls. It was a freebie or nothing. Sometimes I need the thrill of the chase.
Would you guys call her? What do you think is up with her? [/QUOTE]She asks for $$ to f*ck, half up front before even going to your hotel room. Straight up ho. DTB while you can, who knows what other games / requirements she would have in store for you.
So many great WG in China with substantially less drama.
IMHO
[QUOTE=Acejack; 1115633]IMHO Johnny you are barking up the wrong tree.
You won't find many real Freebies in bars that cater for expats.
Its market based economic reality.
If you are looking for a freebie, catch a plane home go, to your local bar and focus on the skanky looking ladies!
China is country where $ is almost a religion[/QUOTE]Disagree, I have picked up freebies at Brown Sugar (local girl with a rich daddy) and some other dance club in there, in the mall part. M1nt was another with lots of girls to be picked up, no working girls that I saw.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1115743]They added a bunch of features AFTER whatever MSN and Facebook came out with.
That goes for voice support, blogs / social networking, and Flash games.
The point is that is just something the locals use all the time.
Westerners tend to be very suspicious of it because no body believes the company and its service could exist thus far without giving the PRC gov an exclusive backdoor.
Oh, I almost forgot. QQ was called QICQ when it launched, it made no effort to conceal who it was ripping off.
The name was changed QQ after a lawsuit and foreign capital threatened to pull out.
If I remember things correctly. [/QUOTE]Who copies who, no one will ever know. I started using QQ back in the early 2000 so your word imitating might be a bit off.
Mmlouie
[QUOTE=Bblover; 1115614]Dear All,
I would like to share with a site that I just came across listing a lot of apartment girls and QQ contacts:
It's called 5CCL and you can access all the posts by sharing your own link after signing up:
[url]http://www.5ccl.info/ons/?92654-1.html[/url]
You can use Google Translate to understand what it's all about.
Have fun and happy new year. [/QUOTE]A monger recounted in another fora that he was caught in a police sting operation after setting up a date over the internet. Apparently, the gong an stopped his cab as he was leaving the hotel after having done the deed, and arrested him. The penalty is a 5k RMB fine, a stay in the station while the bureaucracy decide what to do with you, and being fingerprinted etc. A definite PITA.
Not sure if I am allowed to link to the fora so I will leave the link out for now. Just take care people and do your due diligence.
Went to Heting yesterday. It was my 2nd attempt to find it. The first time I failed because the big sign that others have reported is not there anymore. Best thing is to walk down Siping Lu on right side of road (SW direction from intersection with Dalian Lu) , go a couple hundred meters until you see a building with a curved front covered with mirrored-glass with bird cages hanging at the entry. Enter the building to the right of the cages. You will be taken up to the 3rd floor. The people there speak enough English that you shouldn't have any problems. The place is an amazing assembly line. Very efficient. There were a lot of customers there when I arrive (2:30 PM). Actually had to wait for a shower. Got an 8 girl line up. Mostly 4-6s. Chose the only 7 (#105).5"6".115, very firm, small B cups. Service was not that great. Mechanical. She had a routine and wasn't going to deviate from it. No kissing, no FIV. Best thing was the deep AR, BBBJ was decent. Got 2 pops. Doggy and lame HJ. Wouldn't choose 105 again, but would definitely go back to Heting. Damage 600.
Well thanks for all your opinions gentlemen. And now without further ado, the rest of the story.
Last night she told me if I called her tonight and paid her 2000 she would play with me all night. Early in the morning I got a SMS from her saying "you are a good man, I really like you, please call me tonight." I called her tonight as we had agreed. I assumed she would ask for half before we got to my hotel, so I prepared 2 envelopes with 1000 each and left one in my room and took one with me. I planned to give it to her just outside my hotel but not before.
By the time we met it was about 830. I'd had a long day in meetings and had taken a sna k with colleagues and wanted a bit more food. So we went to a little place in xintiandi and I got a salad and we ordered wine. She was happy to see me, holding my hand, kissing me, chatting about everything. We talked for a couple hours and ordered a fruit plate again and ate fruit from each others mouths again, I'm sure the few other people ther thought we were nuts. She opened up a lot about her family and a guy she used to love, etc, of course it could have been BS but she seemed genuine. She didn't say the kind of things you'd expect a girl to say if she was making up a sob story to extract money, it seemed genuine. We played silly games with our fingers and she ran her fingers through my hair. Fun and sweet. She never mentioned money. But she did say "I can play with you all night but I need to leave at 4 or 5 because I need to go to work tomorrow." turns out she gives facials-not the kind we are used to. .
So about 1130 we hop in a taxi back to my hotel. She liked the de or in the lobby and wanted. To look around for a few minutes. Which is strange because if she were an experienced WG I would think she wouldn't want to hang around to give security a chance to question her. My hotel had a warning about prostitutes in its guest guide. Anyway she eve tually came up to my room and after a moment we started to kiss. Still no mention of money.
Things got very passionate. Definite beginnings of a GFE. But she wanted to shower together. I didn't want to break the rhythm but hard to argue with a pretty standard shower. After the shower we picked up where we left off. She was a bit flushed from the alcohol but not much. She'd told me that she wanted to get a buzz going on the wine because it makes sex better for her. She had also told me that she didn't tell her friend susan from last night that she was going out with me because Susan had really liked me last night and she didn't want her to be jealous. Anyway.
Foreplay was long and intense. She loved my attention to her breasts and my kissing and licking her neck and ears. Deep kissing, grinding, moaning. 100% GFE. She had been handling my cock and after a while she started sucking me off. Not just a BJ, she attacked it like a fat kid attacks a birthday cake. Amazing skill and she's only 18! After a while of that I ate her pussy, still working everything slowly and building up to her climax. She was moaning and. Eying out very loudly and I thought she might attract attention from the hotel, but no.
After she came 3 time she pushed my face out of her pussy and pulled me on top of her bareback. She had such a hungry look in her eyes, it was amazingly hot. This girl truly needed me inside her. She was arching her back, lifting her legs and pulling my ass toward her. Then she flipped me over and ground out another orgasm for herself in CG. I cannot believe this girl is 18 but I saw her I'd with my own eyes. My room has a beautiful view of the city so I took her over to the window, turned her around, bent her over with her palms against the glass and pounded her doggy. She was going nuts. After a while I laid he on the couch, stood over her, put her feet on my chest and plowed her while she was bent double. But after a few minutes of that she started to get a pained look and said she needed a minute. So she stood up for a sec and said we've been going a long time. I looked at the clock, yes I had been actually fucking her for at least half an hour not counting the foreplay. Takes me a while to cum and I wanted to savor every moment with Angela. I took her to the bathroom and I put one of her feet on the counter and fucked her in a standing corkscrew which we could view in the mirror. She told me not to cum inside her. Of course I wouldn't. I told her what I wanted and when it was time she dropped to her knees and started sucking my cock and stroking my shaft and I blew a huge load mostly in her mouth. I usually have big loads but this one was a monster, it dripped out of her mouth and ran down her stomach and got in her hair which was hanging down onto her chest. She still had a huge glob in her mouth which she spit out. But fortunately didn't do the typical Chinese hacking throat clearing thing. I wish I could have got a pic or vid of this guys but she didn't want me to take any and I respected that.
We returned to the bed to cuddle after a quick shower off. I was resting a while before a second pop. After a while I mentioned that a bit later we could start up again. She said she didn't want to do a second pop. Huh? What happened to "playing with me all night"? I gently mentioned this and she demurred and said maybe. I let it go for a while but it came back up again of course. She asked for the money. As I had prepared the two envelopes I decided to give her one and then another after the second pop. Then she got angry and it was back to "you don't understand the Chinese way" and "I don't trust you" and "I never did twice in one night with my other boyfriends." Well honey I am not your boyfriend, U-turned me into a paying customer and if that's the case then "play all night" doesn't mean "one pop where you complain afterward about how long I took to cum." And what we had done together, although intense and well done, was standard and not worth 2000. Of course I didn't say it in those exact words but I made it clear as nicely as I could and told her that I am not going to be taken advantage of. I told her that after the second pop she would get the other half. She said how can we feel like lovers now given this argument between us? (Another sign of inexperience or walking the line between being a WG and a GF, IMO.) I repeated my explanation but this wasn't acceptable to her. By this time we were both dressed, her because she didn't want another pop and me in case she tried to grab anything or pull a stunt I didn't want to be naked. She left immediately with just the 1000 and told me never to call her again. I told her I definitely will not!
So bottom line I got a GFE for 1000 but had to endure a real pain in the ass. I guess an actual GF is a pain in the ass so this was the most realistic GFE ever?
She told me that Chinese guys who meet girls for short time and know they can't marry the girl or at least be her BF will automatically "tip" the girl minimum 1000 for quickie or 2500 for a few hours dinner / drinks plus one pop. Is this true? If so why are Chinese guys so profligate about it? I can guarantee that HK guys aren't this way. Maybe Shanghai girls are more mercenary so the guys have no choice?
Anyway I hope you found this story entertaining. I have two more nights in Xintiandi to get into girl trouble.
[QUOTE=Steven Lee;1115637]The other night I called one of the craigslist ads for massage (ling ling). A girl answered and said she'd be right over. Well it took nearly an hour, but she finally showed up. She definitely was NOT the girl pictured in the ad. She tried to say that she changed her hairstyle, but she knew I wasn't buying it. She was decent enough looking, so I thought I'd go for it. The ad said 200 RMB for an hour massage. She said she wanted 600 for nude massage and HJ (no oral). I agreed. She then told me to pay her in advance. I told her I would pay her when she was done, but she kept demanding I pay her first. I didn't want to give in, and was getting tired of arguing. I just wanted her to go. She asked for 100 RMB for the taxi. I gave her 40. She refused to leave. She still wanted to do the massage for 600, but at this point I was not in the mood. And after our shouting match I couldn't see how either of us could enjoy it. I finally opened the hotel room door, put her purse in the hallway. When she still did not leave, I grabbed her and forcibly removed her from the room. Fortunately, she left without anymore yelling. After that I decided no more craigslist. Anyone else have any better experiences?[/QUOTE]That sounds like a fairly standard CL experience.
Last week I visited one of the popular places in Shanghai. And on that evening, it was really very, very busy. So, I was already a bit disappointed to have a lineup of 4 only. And to my taste, only one was acceptable.
However, it turned out to be a great choice, a 23 years old from Jilin province. She did everything with passion and enthusiasm. A very long cat bath, excellent BBBJ, and almost endless rimming. Her body was good, her face nice, and her tits world class (even though one of them a bit smaller than the other. You find out which one). It was almost a GF experience in a massage place, and her service attitude outstanding. I am not sure whether she is always like this or whether it was just the chemistry. Or because I speak some Chinese, which she definitely enjoyed.
I will provide the detailed information to senior members (only). But don't PM me if your only contributions so far were comments on other's reports or questions (it seems some guys made it up to senior member with such "bluff").
Enjoy Shanghai!
Wonderer
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1116117]She told me that Chinese guys who meet girls for short time and know they can't marry the girl or at least be her BF will automatically "tip" the girl minimum 1000 for quickie or 2500 for a few hours dinner / drinks plus one pop. Is this true? If so why are Chinese guys so profligate about it? I can guarantee that HK guys aren't this way. Maybe Shanghai girls are more mercenary so the guys have no choice?
Anyway I hope you found this story entertaining. I have two more nights in Xintiandi to get into girl trouble.[/QUOTE]No way. My massage girl was like an all-in GF for a few months and did not ask for anywhere near that kind of money. Course, I had to derail that train when she asked me to loan her 80K RMB like it was no big thing, so maybe she was setting it up to play the big con, while your girl was just looking to play one small one on you.
But no way is the going rate 1000 for ST, unless she has only ever met rich Euros or Australians.
That 2500 price is what you might pay for some hot Russian ass.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1116117]She told me that Chinese guys who meet girls for short time and know they can't marry the girl or at least be her BF will automatically "tip" the girl minimum 1000 for quickie or 2500 for a few hours dinner / drinks plus one pop. Is this true? If so why are Chinese guys so profligate about it? I can guarantee that HK guys aren't this way. Maybe Shanghai girls are more mercenary so the guys have no choice?
Anyway I hope you found this story entertaining. I have two more nights in Xintiandi to get into girl trouble.[/QUOTE]IMHO She's a ho who doesn't think she's a ho (or at least trying to sell that to you). I had a similar experience in a massage joint and she tried to fleece me because she thought I didn't know better. She held up 2 fingers and I assumed she ment 200, but she clarified 2000. I just started laughing. So she said 2K was just a joke and it was actually only 1K. She also said she doesn't normally do this and only wanted to do it with me because she likes me and was curious about being with a foreigner. I kept on laughing.
Your experience is a fairly typical SH-game. Maybe she is telling the truth about other guys falling for this BS, but.
One should not put up with this much drama no matter how hot the girl is. Lose one and there's another 3 waiting on the wings.
Welcome to Shanghai.
I have been to G18 a couple of times in the last 2 weeks (once at 11PM on a Wednesday and once in the afternoon on the week end) but it seems that it closed down, could somebody confirm?
JYS 418 wuzhong lu.
I was walking down wuzhong lu when I saw this pretty obvious place : a huge cube with kitch columns. Intrigued I decided to came in.
Went directly on the second floor. No first shower, and went to the fishbowl wearing my own clothes. Unusual!
Good choice of 25 girls. No real stunners but definitely something to eat. But I chose this pretty young girl who was actually very friendly.
I came in the room. Porn movies on the wall. Took my clothes off. And then we went to the shower room for usual business. This girl was very funny, enjoyed her time and had laughters.
Then we headed to bed. Where we had good sex. One pop, two positions and I quickly came as she was hot!
Then we talked a bit, she made fun of my shitty Chinese, cudled.
Time was over. I got dressed said by, passed throug the hall and in front of the fishbowl where girls were hanging out and smoking. Very pleasant. Mamasan uptsairs very nice too.
Damage 900 after 19:00 and 800 before 19.
Very expensive too me for the same service as cheapest place. Not sure to go back but had a lot of fun there though.
BTW, some cool massage places around there.
Went to Bodi tonight around 8PM. Thanks Applecrate for the detailed info. Took the MTR Line 6 to Shanghai Children's Medical Center Station, went out Exit 2 (if my old man memory serves me correctly) and walked south along Dongfang Road before turning left onto Longyang Road at the big intersection. Continued walking for about 15-20 minutes before reading Bodi.
The inside is pretty much as Applecrate described and is very well thought out.
After the shower, waited for about 15 minutes in the lounge area where there were 6 other guys waiting before getting ushered to the lineup room. About 20-25 girls in the line up. All between 3s and 6s in my opinion. Ended up picking #520 for whatever reason. #520 is 24 years old, from Hunan, and has been in Shanghai for about a year. She was around 5'2 and when she took off the uniform, had medium sized tits and a little bit of chubb on her.
The soapie was not bad, but nothing to rave about either. If anything, it was a bit on the short side. (I miss Pattaya) 15 minutes of soapie. 10 minutes of catbath and AR, and 15 minutes of BBBJ and FS. Good BJ technique and the girl was much tighter than the girl from Heting and had good control of her pussy muscles. Even still, I think the girl at Heting was much more service oriented and I had a much better time there.
Afterwards, a quick rinse off and ushered back to the shower area.
The locker attendant asked me if I had to wait for a long time and I told him yes. He told me its always very busy at that time and that its alot less hectic between 12PM and 6PM. Paid 800RMB and grabbed a complimentary lighter on the way out.
800RMB for the distance traveled to get there and the level of service I received really isn't worth it in my opinion. I felt like I was being rushed through the motions and I thought that the girl selection lookswise could be better at that price. Maybe it was just that I picked a bad provider but I don't think I'll be going back especially after experiencing Heting first. I'll probably go to Hailang over the weekend and do a comparison of the soapie joints.
[QUOTE=Bbqman;1116230]I have been to G18 a couple of times in the last 2 weeks (once at 11PM on a Wednesday and once in the afternoon on the week end) but it seems that it closed down, could somebody confirm?[/QUOTE]Closed. It looks like that building is going to be renovated.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1115482]Re the WGs who post pics and phone numbers in the women seeking men section on craigslist worth calling? How much do they typically charge? Do they look like their pictures? Any info or advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]Many people have bad experiences with CL, but I must admit I've had some good ones. I even got anal once.
Communicate clearly what you want when you order, if you don't get it, or if the girl is ugly as hell when she shows up on your door, send her home and ask for a new one.
CL is a hardball game, just let them know cash is king, so you decide.
Don't expect the girl you book to be the same as the one on the picture, they never are anyway, so don't ruin your expectation by waitng for the girl on the picture.
Hi there all. I thought I would share with you my experience at 500 WuZhong Road from last October.
I had read it was in a hotel, and I got a taxi from my apartment to the address. The taxi driver didn't go straight to it, but was reading the numbers, and we got there with no problems.
I went up to the 4th floor, and it seemed closed. As I walked in, a guy asked if I wanted a massage. I said yes, and he directed me to a desk with a girl behind who took my cash (730RMB). He then asked me to follow him, and we went out again, and up to the 11th floor. I was quite wary at this point, as I did not know what to expect. We went to a room, and inside were 4 girls and an older lady. I was asked to choose, so I picked a girl with a nice smile and a nicer set of boobs.
We then all went down to the 4th floor together, and back to the entrance to the place. I followed the girl through a maze of corridors, and then through a secret door! I kid you not. Once through the door, we went to a room, and she put on the A / C to heat it up a bit. She motioned me to get undressed, and she did the same. She then went into the large shower room with a bed, and showered, and then I went in. She showered me all over, then got me onto the bed for a full oiling. Nice lot of her on top of me rubbing me with the C cups.
Then it was another shower, and onto the other bed. A whole lot of BBBJ, and whilst she was doing that, I was fingering her (only 1 finger, as requested) , then we 69ed for a while. She then got off, put a condom on me, and we then went for FS. She wanted Missionary, but I flipped her for some Doggy. Really nice. Really tight. That one finger rule must work.
Anyhow, an hour after going into the room, we were done, and we made our way out. Secret door and all.
Fairly good, but, disconcerting with the trip to another floor.
I shall be going to 999 in the next few weeks, so if anyone can give me any pointers, I would appreciate it.
[QUOTE=White Dragon;1116384]Closed. It looks like that building is going to be renovated.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.
Too bad, I really liked the place.
I guess there was a bit too much new and posh building around lately
[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1115668]Seventeen, I think you did the correct thing.
What is the legal age for this in China? Stupid question but is there a legal age in Shanghai. [/QUOTE]In China. 14. In Japan. 13. In PI. 12. Even so.
[QUOTE=Killban; 1116521]Hi there all. I thought I would share with you my experience at 500 WuZhong Road from last October.
I had read it was in a hotel, and I got a taxi from my apartment to the address. The taxi driver didn't go straight to it, but was reading the numbers, and we got there with no problems.
I went up to the 4th floor, and it seemed closed. As I walked in, a guy asked if I wanted a massage. I said yes, and he directed me to a desk with a girl behind who took my cash (730RMB). He then asked me to follow him, and we went out again, and up to the 11th floor. I was quite wary at this point, as I did not know what to expect. We went to a room, and inside were 4 girls and an older lady. I was asked to choose, so I picked a girl with a nice smile and a nicer set of boobs.
We then all went down to the 4th floor together, and back to the entrance to the place. I followed the girl through a maze of corridors, and then through a secret door! I kid you not. Once through the door, we went to a room, and she put on the A / C to heat it up a bit. She motioned me to get undressed, and she did the same. She then went into the large shower room with a bed, and showered, and then I went in. She showered me all over, then got me onto the bed for a full oiling. Nice lot of her on top of me rubbing me with the C cups.
Then it was another shower, and onto the other bed. A whole lot of BBBJ, and whilst she was doing that, I was fingering her (only 1 finger, as requested) , then we 69ed for a while. She then got off, put a condom on me, and we then went for FS. She wanted Missionary, but I flipped her for some Doggy. Really nice. Really tight. That one finger rule must work.
Anyhow, an hour after going into the room, we were done, and we made our way out. Secret door and all.
Fairly good, but, disconcerting with the trip to another floor.
I shall be going to 999 in the next few weeks, so if anyone can give me any pointers, I would appreciate it. [/QUOTE]Strange, I never paid upfront. Usualy you enter in the 4 floor and go to the change room, then to the sauna area, after that you go to the resting rooms. After 5 minutes or so mama san comes in with the girls (I never had less then 8 to choose from, max was 18) , there is 2 kinds of rooms, simple one in the 5th (you pay 630) or the ones through the secret door in the 3rd floor with a shower and massage bed (which are 730) , mama san will ask you if you want to go upstairs or downstairs.
Generally, a not so upscale place but I always had a good time there.
[QUOTE=Osuul; 1116624]Strange, I never paid upfront. Usualy you enter in the 4 floor and go to the change room, then to the sauna area, after that you go to the resting rooms. After 5 minutes or so mama san comes in with the girls (I never had less then 8 to choose from, max was 18) , there is 2 kinds of rooms, simple one in the 5th (you pay 630) or the ones through the secret door in the 3rd floor with a shower and massage bed (which are 730) , mama san will ask you if you want to go upstairs or downstairs.
Generally, a not so upscale place but I always had a good time there. [/QUOTE]It was just after Expo had finished, so I don't know if they were keeping low key. The place looked closed when I walked in. When we were walking back to the entrance, the girl had to knock on a door to get a you-lock taken off. It was basically done to look like it was shut. I presume the secret rooms were ok as there was no way to easily see if it was running. Girls upstairs again to show the place was closed.
Just my thoughts though.
Anyhow, what about 999? Is it easy to find?
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1116599]In China. 14. In Japan. 13. In PI. 12. Even so.[/QUOTE]Yeah, prostitution is illegal regardless of age.
The ladies could tell you any BS, and you could tell her the same.
Couple that with language barriers, and you or her might hear some really bizarre things.
Who would know, may be she is lying about her age.
But morally you just might feel better.
There was this sauna lady who tried to sell me her cousin's virginity.
I said no because I think 16 yrs old is too young (But my other primary reasons which I didn't tell her was personal security and the $$$$$)
I then told my pals about the proposition I turned down, and they were all like,"yeah, right. 16 and a virgin? You actually believe that?"
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1116599]In China. 14. In Japan. 13. In PI. 12. Even so.[/QUOTE]One should also elaborate about the meaning of age of consent, legal age etc.
I do not think age of consent means, e. G, a 30 whyear old man can have sex with a girl in the age of consent (and below the legal age).
It means a girl and boy within age of consent (and below legal age) can have sex.
The purpose is very clear: avoid old men having sex with too young girls, in a few words.
Should also elaborate that the recent laws in many countries are enforced according to the nationality of the offender (e. G. The man).
So if in country A the legal age is 21 and girl's country B has a legal age of 18, a citizen of country A can be prosecuted in his own country if having sex with a 19yo girl of country B.
It does not matter what the girl's country law is about. He will not be prosecuted in that country, but in his own country (with evidences etc etc) when he comes back.
Check here:
[url]http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm[/url]
Thomas Jefferson
[QUOTE=Carage; 1116759]Yeah, prostitution is illegal regardless of age.
The ladies could tell you any BS, and you could tell her the same.
Couple that with language barriers, and you or her might hear some really bizarre things.
Who would know, may be she is lying about her age.
But morally you just might feel better.
There was this sauna lady who tried to sell me her cousin's virginity.
I said no because I think 16 yrs old is too young (But my other primary reasons which I didn't tell her was personal security and the $$$$$)
I then told my pals about the proposition I turned down, and they were all like,"yeah, right. 16 and a virgin? You actually believe that?"[/QUOTE]
Hi all.
Can anyone recommend any good places in Pudong for HE or FS?
Cheers,
Nonoc
[QUOTE=Nonoc; 1117201]Hi all.
Can anyone recommend any good places in Pudong for HE or FS?
Cheers,
Nonoc[/QUOTE]Send a note to Joe
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1116117]So bottom line I got a GFE for 1000 but had to endure a real pain in the ass. I guess an actual GF is a pain in the ass so this was the most realistic GFE ever?[/QUOTE]You got her contact info? Sometimes a little drama can be fun.
[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson; 1116964]Check here:
[url]http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm[/url]
Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]Good guideline, but for the benefit andthe understandng of all, the attention should be drawn also to a few factor suchs as the folloiwng ones (using those countries note just as an example:
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In Finland, sex with someone under 16 is not deemed sexual abuse of a child if "there is no great difference in the ages or the mental and physical maturity of the persons involved." Similarly in Norway, a prison sentence may not be imposed "if those who have committed the act of indecency are about equal in age and development." In both countries, lesser punishments may nevertheless be imposed.
In Germany, sexual intercourse is legal from the age of 14 in most cases. An exception is when the older partner is aged over 18 and is "exploiting a coercive situation", where compensation is offered, in return for sex, in which case the younger person must be aged over 18 years. In addition, it is illegal for someone aged over 21 to have sex with someone under 16 if they "exploit the victim's lack of capacity for sexual self-determination".
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My point is, regardless if age of consent is 14, an adult male (ie above legal age) may not have sex with a 15 yo girl.
The indication of age of consent is referred to a boy and a girl of similar age.
This point is not very clear in the guideline, but it is damn clear of the law.
Try as an adult to have sex with a 16 yo girl (and age of consent being 14, for isntance) and yoru lawyer will have difficulties to find the keys of your jail room.
This seems a point nota lot of mongerers seem to have clear.
Same as the fact is that is YOUR country law that is enforced as well, not necessarily the "deed" country.
So if the deed country allows an adult to have such a deed with a 15yo girl, and his country happens to know this, the guy will be prosecuted (in his country)
At the same token, if the deed country is very strict and his country is not, the local deed law wil be enforced and surely nobody from his own country will move a finger.
Look at the cases related with drugs.
In a few words: avoid. Avoid. Avoid. And enjoy a good and well experienced ABOVE legal age (according to both countries) girl. .
[QUOTE=Killban; 1116657]It was just after Expo had finished, so I don't know if they were keeping low key. The place looked closed when I walked in. When we were walking back to the entrance, the girl had to knock on a door to get a you-lock taken off. It was basically done to look like it was shut. I presume the secret rooms were ok as there was no way to easily see if it was running. Girls upstairs again to show the place was closed.
Just my thoughts though.
Anyhow, what about 999? Is it easy to find? [/QUOTE]Should be Tian yao jiao lu 999 right? Thats the street were best buy is but all the way down to the stadium. This place is at the end of this road after the sports station. Just look for house No. 999 on the left side shortly after the hotel 168.
I have lived in shanghai for 8 weeks now and have just began to partake in Shanghai's fun. I have lived in Hong Kong so I know all the fun in southern China. I went with a colleague and his clients to Wonderland Men's club. This is a real high end KTV and the nicest I have been including those in CP. We had 9 guys who each had a girl. All the girls are either from chongqing, Sichuan, Jiangsu. All the girls are at least a 6 and higher. Our Dj was the hottest but she's not available for takeout. After 2 bottles of hennessy, beer, dice games, and bai jiu we were ready for some fun. The bill must have been expensive and my colleague paid for everyones girl, had to been at least 600 rmb for each sitting girl. I took my Chongqing spinner home. She was 5 foot 1 90 pounds and a hottie. This was my first time taking someone home and We took a shower and it was like a scene from a porn movie. Very passionate and it led to the bedroom. After a round of missionary reverse cowgirl doggy it was time to rest. 4 hours later we were back at it again. She new I got hard again so she assumed from the spooning position and I entered again. This time slow and steady and did the same positions again but this felt different now. No more whisky dick, this was a porn experience where she was as passionate as me, while she was on top I should have recorded it because I felt like a bucking bronco. All in all a great experience and then I found out what was her fee. She said 2500 plus a 500 tip. I didn't mind as this was my first chalk on the headboard and one of the better sex experiences living in China. It doesn't beat last weeks bachelor party in Bangkok with 5 girls in a hot tob but that's another story.
[QUOTE=Osuul;1117613]Should be Tian yao jiao lu 999 right? Thats the street were best buy is but all the way down to the stadium. This place is at the end of this road after the sports station. Just look for house No. 999 on the left side shortly after the hotel 168.[/QUOTE]I checked on Google, and it comes up with "Did you mean: 999 tian yao qiao road"
Looking at the Google map, it would seem Google has the name right, but I will follow your advice on the landmarks.
[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g308272-d1402312-Reviews-Motel_168_Shanghai_Tianyaoqiao_Road-Shanghai.html[/url]
[url]http://www.icexpat.com/nm_AddressDetails;mid_76FBCB2AF72440EFBA5A4C52E897815D.shtml[/url]
Happy Mongering!
So I have been talking about getting over to Bodi for a few months now but just never made it happen, other distractions getting in the way and such. Well no longer, today I ousted myself from my comfy office chair here in the hotel and set out. No driver, no cabs, I decided to go the Metro route.
As it turns out, I forgot how fucked google maps is in this city, so ended up taking the long way, but I need the exercise. I took line 7 to Fanghua road, then walked Hunan Road north up to Longyang. I crossed Longyang and then hung left under the elevated road. I think I walked about 3/4 mile to an elevated road and walkway, and there figured out the Bodi is just a little further west of that.
Description and pictures are accurate, the hotel has a main entrace in the center, and is flanked about 150 feet on each side by unmarked doors. The one to the left is the sauna.
You walk in, and the processional into the changing area begins. Lots of dudes waiting around to help you, as someone else noted before it's a little weird, but just focus on what's coming. You do the shower, go to the pajama guy and get suited up, and then begin the gauntlet of dark hallways until you get to a resting area. Big chairs, TV, etc. Shortly thereafter, they will call you (a bunch of us at once actually) and take you down about 3 halls to the lineup room. 25-30 girls there today (at about 4:30 PM on a Saturday). Lots of good talent. Someone had previously said the girls with red numbers were somehow better, so I picked a girl with a red number, smoking body, and lots of eye contact. She was wearing a naughty teacher outfit, including glasses and dark miniskirt suit. Fucking nice. Number 599 for those keeping score.
So as it turns out daddy made a good choice, as this girl speaks very good english. She is Shanghainese and so will be here next week, for those interested. We actually walked up a few flights of stairs and through some doors, then to a room. Rooms have a very big bed in the first part, and then the slip and slide bed behind some glass doors in the shower room. So we both got undressed and moved on into the shower. As she took off the outfit I noticed she was wearing a thong (not common from my experience, but nice) and she had some big tattoos, one on her stomach and one on her leg. Not terribly distracting or anything, just worth noting.
So then she washed me a little bit, spreads the thin plastic on the shower bed, and has me lie face down. Out comes the nuru nuru, she mixes it up int he bowl, and then we begin. She starts rubbing my feet with her tits, which is nice as her nippled are rock hard and I can feel them very well. Then she does the whole body slide routine using her whole body, pretty sweet. Then she begins with the cat bath, which is the really cool part about the nuru stuff. No nasty flavor so no reason to wash the stuff off or clean up. She is up and down the big, licking my ears, down on my ass, my legs, then back up and really gets in there with the rimming.
Next she has me flip over and goes at it from there. Same deal, comments how big I am (as they do for everyone, I'm guessing) and goes in with the rubbing, shimmying, sliding, stroking, sucking, etc. Best part is when she gets up high enough, she is all about the DFK and we go at that for most of the rest of the time. Eat your heart out Golly Woggle. Anyway, she finished that up with a little BBBJ, then helps me up off the table and has me stand while she showers me off. She gets down on her knees and really gets into some BJ, this time I put a hand on her neck and start directing, and she takes her hands off and just lets me fuck her face. This girl is awesome, she can pretty much DT the entire thing, which is no mean feat if I may toot my own trumpet.
So then it's off to bed, sucky sucky sucky, condom on, fucky fucky fucky, aaaaaand scene.
Damage was 800, fapiao available if you ask for it.
If you are looking to avoid the problems of not speaking and mandarin, this girl is for you. She is no spring chicken (I guess 28) and no good if you don't like tattoos, but if you're cool with those, she's perfect / Great ass, nice rack, does all the things you want her to.
I may go back yet this week. Before that, I think Heting tomorrow
Decided to partake in a couple of massage locations. First I tried Shanghai Hotel Sauna on Friday night, but I think the red rope sauna is closed! On 2F when you get off the elevators there is a pair of doors on one side that say,"Conference Center" that are locked. On the other side are glass double doors that are locked and blocked off. There is NOTHING else on 2F which is listed as the massage / sauna, and it's where all the reviews said it should be. Thinking I might have been on the wrong floor, I went up one more floor and found a massage parlor, but I think it's different from the Sauna.
500rmb was the price for full body oil massage. The girl was cute but nothing to write home about. Maybe a 6. But it was a phenomenal massage. I had been drinking earlier in the evening and normally that makes it tougher to get a round fired off. But she somehow managed to tease and work him without too much of a challenge. The girl knew how to work it so I'll give her a 7 for service. I was expecting BBBJ but it turned out to be just a HJ. I negotiated 300rmb tip even though she wanted 500 and called it a night, thinking I'd been ripped off since I expected more.
Then tonight I decided to try the New Happy Garden Sauna, across the street from Malones. Boy was this a HUGE disappointment. I read one really good review saying it was pricey but was really worth it. Caveat emptor. Should've read more. What I read said it was 892rmb for 90 minutes. They raised it to 955rmb for 90 min. And you pay first. Once that's done, you figure you may as well just go along with everything else since they already have your money.
First was a shower, then a few minutes in a sauna where a guy brought me a glass of water and cold towel, and then I was brought into a small room with a lounge chair. Thinking this was going to be the room where the fun happened, I asked (or tried to since I don't speak Mandarin) if I could pick the girl through the one-way window. Eventually one of the papasan's said he'd pick the girl, that if I didn't like her there's more. Fine with me.
I get lead to another room that's much darker and has the massage table. And I was NOT into the girl. She was older, late 30's, about a 4 or 5 face and body and flat as a surfboard with strange shaped tits. I said,"hwang" for another, but she said,"mayo". There was no one else. So at this point I realize I've been ripped off and figure I'll just get this over with.
She starts with me on my stomach covered with a towel and works on my back through the towel. She works on my legs (also through a towel) , and then gives me a pretty nice head massage. Which was actually beneficial since I had a really bad headache that night. After she was done, she left the room. Being the eternal optimist, I was hoping that maybe she was the girl who did the first round to loosen me up, and they'd send in a different hotter girl to close the deal. Nope. Same girl came back. She pulled my shorts off, then she stripped and started oiling up the little guy. All she did at that point was dump a bunch of lube on my dick and work it until he spat up. The most I was able to get on her was a little touching and groping. No BBBJ or anything else. Major disappointment. Cleaned up with a shower, got dressed and took off without saying anything to the people as I left.
I probably would have had more fun at Sarcosa, or if I got take out at Manhattan. There was one smoking viet girl I was talking to yesterday that could've been fun. I stopped by there tonight and there were a couple more viet girls who caught my eye, but after the dismal experience at the sauna, I was ready to call it a night and cut my losses for the weekend. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day.
Ideally what I would like to find is an escort / massage outcall to my hotel in Pudong, but I'm having one hell of a time finding a reputable independent or agency that isn't starting at 2500rmb! At this point, Johnny Rockets crazy civie sounds realy appealing (dead serious too)! I traded e-mails with another married civie listed on another forum but that fell apart when she wanted me to disclose my real name. Bummer. She sounded kinda fun.
[QUOTE=Drmsog;1117544]You got her contact info? Sometimes a little drama can be fun.[/QUOTE]Yes but will never use it.
My last night in Shanghai a few nights ago. Went back to Xintiandi. No promising girls in Starbucks so I started walking outside again. Very shortly a quiet girl with glasses walked up to me. Her name was Jessie and she asked for 600 for the night.
We went back to my hotel and had pretty standard sex. I asked her to cum on her face and it was no problem. Then we cuddled for a while, ordered room service, watched a movie, slept. Next morning she gave me a BBBJ and swallowed without me even asking.
I gave her 1000.
Jessie wasn't nearly as hot as Angela in face or body, the sex wasn't nearly as pornstar, but IMO she was MUCH better value for money.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1117765]Yes but will never use it.[/QUOTE]Care to share it?
[QUOTE=Dirknblane; 1117615].
I took my Chongqing spinner home. She was 5 foot 1 90 pounds and a hottie. This was my first time taking someone home and We took a shower and it was like a scene from a porn movie. Very passionate and it led to the bedroom. After a round of missionary reverse cowgirl doggy it was time to rest. 4 hours later we were back at it again. She new I got hard again so she assumed from the spooning position and I entered again. This time slow and steady and did the same positions again but this felt different now. No more whisky dick, this was a porn experience where she was as passionate as me, while she was on top I should have recorded it because I felt like a bucking bronco. All in all a great experience and then I found out what was her fee. She said 2500 plus a 500 tip. I didn't mind. [/QUOTE]Mistake number 1: asking her fee, after the deed.
Mistake number 2: not learning from mistake no. 1. ("I didn't mind.")
Well done Chongqing spinner: 3,100 kuai. She has done very well.
Just my opionion.
P13
Stopped by Manhattan on Thursday evening without much expectation, but "hope" as always. The options were better than I expected, talked to a cutie from Myanmar, (a first for me) and decided I wasn't going to wait until 2 am to get started, plus she told me that she needed to be at the airport at 6am for her flight home.
I told her my price for short time, and she declined, I countered and she didn't want to budge. I was a little surprised, since it was her last night and she only had about 4 hrs of "usefulness" to make her flight. She asked if we could talk a little while until I found another girl, I said sure! Then her iPhone went off (she had a lot of high end toys for being a "first timer" and only able to stay a week!) Seems another monger needed her for one more "fix" before she left and asked her to get her suitcase and then some to his hotel. She typed OK, and off she went! I bet she was fun, but more opportunities abound.
Chatted with a couple of Fils regulars and was interested in a Thai gal, but she was tangled up with some drunk guy. I kept getting "the look" but she never walked away from this guy. I think she was convinced he would be "easy and quick", but who knows.
Then in walks a really cute little Viet gal I had seen a few times, she sent me sms that she was going home earlier in the week, but here she was. Happy smiles all around, told her to grab her coat and let's go. She's happy, I'm happy, all good!
She also needed to leave after a couple of hours to catch a flight back to Vietnam. Wonder if both girls on same flight? Anyway we play tumble in the sheets for a couple of hours, promise to stay in touch with email, and off she goes into the cold night.
All in all a good, if not spectacular evening. I am going to be in town for New Year's, my first in Shanghai, so it will be interesting to see what is available later this week!
Hi All.
Thanks to Shmitty I've got a few good places in Pudong (Sacrosa, Bodi etc.) to visit, but I am still wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good HE massage place in Pudong. I have a rather tight budget at the moment, and would be really grateful if anyone could help out.
Cheers,
Nonoc
[QUOTE=Nonoc; 1117892]Hi All.
Thanks to Shmitty I've got a few good places in Pudong (Sacrosa, Bodi etc.) to visit, but I am still wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good HE massage place in Pudong. I have a rather tight budget at the moment, and would be really grateful if anyone could help out.
Cheers,
Nonoc[/QUOTE]Pudong is a big place, where are you staying exactly?
Just walk around and look for massage places that have multi-colored lighted signs and girls in short skirts and stockings in the window waving you in. It is literally impossible for a westerner not to get HE in one of these places.
I do recommend avoiding the corner of Pudong Nan and Weifang, the three that are right together on the north east corner are ripoffs based on my limited experience. I am a regular at the one near the north west corner next to the DVD store, talent is not that hot but you can get what you want there.
There are also some really cheap places but it's way downmarket and maybe not right for everyone.
[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1117863]Mistake number 1: asking her fee, after the deed.
Well done Chongqing spinner: 3, 100 kuai. She has done very well.
P13[/QUOTE]A good lesson for us all!
Fz
[QUOTE=Nonoc; 1117892]Hi All.
Thanks to Shmitty I've got a few good places in Pudong (Sacrosa, Bodi etc.) to visit, but I am still wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good HE massage place in Pudong. I have a rather tight budget at the moment, and would be really grateful if anyone could help out.
Cheers,
Nonoc[/QUOTE]Hey Nonoc,
There's a decent place off of line 6 in Pudong for about 200rmb, which I went to about a month ago. It's at bieyangjing station located on Yushan Road at the corner of Yangjing Road. PM me if you need more details.
Bryce
Whether it was 300 or 3000, it was a great experience and it's just chips. I wasn't going to lose face in front of my colleagues and his guests who were high powered government people. Money is not everything, respect outweighed embarassment for all if I didn't take her due to the high cost I did not want to ask in front of all and either way she was coming back with me at any cost. We had a great time leading up to our romp. So this was not a lesson about money, but a lesson for you all about Chinese culture. You folks all worry about money and finding cheap lays, I partake in these gatherings for fun, hanging with friends and the games.
[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1117954]A good lesson for us all!
Fz[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Drmsog;1117823]Care to share it?[/QUOTE]Hmmm, normally I would say I wouldn't share info with a poster with only 3 reports. But your first report was quality and gives me the impression that you'll become a meaningful poster.
However, I'm convinced that Angela meant it when she said that payment or no, she'd only fuck guys she really likes. As another poster observed that she is still in that grey area where she doesn't want to think of herself as a hooker but doesn't want to give her pussy up for free. She's young. Another year or two and she'll be a full-on prostitute.
Plus, her last words to me were "please don't call me again." So I think if I SMS her and ask "I know a guy who will pay you to fuck him, can I give him your number?" it might not be well-received.
But I have no intention of meeting her ever again, so if she does ever contact me, I will ask her if it's ok to share her info.
Have fun and stay safe.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1118039]Plus, her last words to me were "please don't call me again." So I think if I SMS her and ask "I know a guy who will pay you to fuck him, can I give him your number?" it might not be well-received.
But I have no intention of meeting her ever again, so if she does ever contact me, I will ask her if it's ok to share her info. [/QUOTE]LOL, thanks. You're much nicer than I'd be though. I'd send her a message saying,"A cool friend of mine would like to meet you and Susan because he's new to Shanghai and was hoping you could show him around town, so I thought I would ask for him.". And ignore anything she says if she's really that nuts. But no worries if you want to steer clear of her. Hope you don't mind me asking.
The main reason I was asking is be / see crazy girls are crazier in the sheets. Haven't had a Chinese one yet but hopefully can score one before I leave town.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1117768]My last night in Shanghai a few nights ago. Went back to Xintiandi. No promising girls in Starbucks so I started walking outside again. Very shortly a quiet girl with glasses walked up to me. Her name was Jessie and she asked for 600 for the night.
We went back to my hotel and had pretty standard sex. I asked her to cum on her face and it was no problem. Then we cuddled for a while, ordered room service, watched a movie, slept. Next morning she gave me a BBBJ and swallowed without me even asking. [/QUOTE]Hey one other question. I was at the Starbucks in Xintiandi this afternoon but it didn't really seem like a place where working girls are. Did you meet Jessie randomly on the street? These are the kind of civilian / semi-pro chicks I'm into, as opposed to the full on pro's at Manhattan. How do you spot them?
[QUOTE=Brycel; 1117959]Hey Nonoc,
There's a decent place off of line 6 in Pudong for about 200rmb, which I went to about a month ago. It's at bieyangjing station located on Yushan Road at the corner of Yangjing Road. PM me if you need more details.
Bryce[/QUOTE]Thanks Bryce, I shall be sure to tell you guys about it if I get round.
[QUOTE=Drmsog;1117823]Care to share it?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Drmsog;1118057]Hey one other question. I was at the Starbucks in Xintiandi this afternoon but it didn't really seem like a place where working girls are. Did you meet Jessie randomly on the street? These are the kind of civilian / semi-pro chicks I'm into, as opposed to the full on pro's at Manhattan. How do you spot them?[/QUOTE]Again my experience is limited. But I think Starbucks is more of a crapshoot than the streets outside. And thet may be outright freebies rather than WGs or civilian semi-pros.
Regarding the semi-pros outside, you don't have to recognize them. They approach you if you are walking alone. I am a laowai so I don't know if the same would apply to Chinese guys. And I can tell you that black or Indian guys will have a much harder time finding this. Anyway. There are basically two types. The first seem like KTV scammers, immediately asking whether you want Chinese girl for sex or massage. I always ignore these people. The second seem friendly like they are just walking up to a guy they like, and won't mention money for a while until the conversation turns to sex, and it will always be about her, never her offering you another girl. Remember Angela was 5 hours in with me and on the way to my hotel before she ever mentioned money.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1118311]Regarding the semi-pros outside, you don't have to recognize them. They approach you if you are walking alone. I am a laowai so I don't know if the same would apply to Chinese guys. And I can tell you that black or Indian guys will have a much harder time finding this. Anyway. There are basically two types. The first seem like KTV scammers, immediately asking whether you want Chinese girl for sex or massage. I always ignore these people. The second seem friendly like they are just walking up to a guy they like, and won't mention money for a while until the conversation turns to sex, and it will always be about her, never her offering you another girl. Remember Angela was 5 hours in with me and on the way to my hotel before she ever mentioned money.[/QUOTE]I'm a laowai too. American but of East Indian descent. The reactions are along the lines of what you describe. I get hassled by the touts and the KTV scammer chicks. No problems ignoring them. The second is what I'm after. Civilian semi-pros. And they're tougher to target. Usually the easiest first step is look at them and smile. If they smile back, you're good to approach.
I'm far lighter skinned than south indians, have the western 'look', and also look about 25-30. I'm sure I'll have a tougher time than white guys, but am unsure if most girls qualify me as American, or Indian, or "WTF is he"!
Tomorrow night I'm going to Xintiandi with a caucasian co-worker of mine I met today. I'm pretty sure he's married or something, so I'll have him wing the ugly ones if we meet anyone.
Thanks man.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1118311]They approach you if you are walking alone. I am a laowai so I don't know if the same would apply to Chinese guys.[/QUOTE]Nope! They don't. Only teenage girls pulling on my jacket asking me to buy them something to eat.
Hi guys,
Under another handle a long time ago I detailed many of my Shanghai exploits. Many bicycle rides and many BBS in the good old days.
Having a return visit and staying on Pudong side. There used to be a cool prostate massage place where they cover you in hot towels, have a good old fiddle with the prostate, and have a long slow satisfying hand job. The girls three were memorable for speaking good English I recall. Anyone know where such places might be. I tried the search but can't find it, as address one of one place I went to had been shown here in this Shanghai site.
All I recall was it had a strange name and you went downstairs I think to the massage rooms. Any hlep would be much appreciated!
[QUOTE=Dirty Jersey;1118371]Nope! They don't. Only teenage girls pulling on my jacket asking me to buy them something to eat.[/QUOTE]You too, I get that all the time.
Mmlouie
That's awesome to know they still have take out. Wonderland is often referred to as TSRJ or Passions as it's the same name for a very famous KTV that started in Beijing. They are affiliated but not same owners.
2500+ her 500 tip is decent. Some charge as high as 5000 for the night. It sounds like your buddy was connected and probably entertains guests there often. I'm surprised she was so short. Most girls there are at least 5'5". Usually they are closer to 6' tall. Generally the taller they are, the more expensive.
[QUOTE=Dirknblane;1117615]I have lived in shanghai for 8 weeks now and have just began to partake in Shanghai's fun. I have lived in Hong Kong so I know all the fun in southern China. I went with a colleague and his clients to Wonderland Men's club. This is a real high end KTV and the nicest I have been including those in CP. We had 9 guys who each had a girl. All the girls are either from chongqing, Sichuan, Jiangsu. All the girls are at least a 6 and higher. Our Dj was the hottest but she's not available for takeout. After 2 bottles of hennessy, beer, dice games, and bai jiu we were ready for some fun. The bill must have been expensive and my colleague paid for everyones girl, had to been at least 600 rmb for each sitting girl. I took my Chongqing spinner home. She was 5 foot 1 90 pounds and a hottie. This was my first time taking someone home and We took a shower and it was like a scene from a porn movie. Very passionate and it led to the bedroom. After a round of missionary reverse cowgirl doggy it was time to rest. 4 hours later we were back at it again. She new I got hard again so she assumed from the spooning position and I entered again. This time slow and steady and did the same positions again but this felt different now. No more whisky dick, this was a porn experience where she was as passionate as me, while she was on top I should have recorded it because I felt like a bucking bronco. All in all a great experience and then I found out what was her fee. She said 2500 plus a 500 tip. I didn't mind as this was my first chalk on the headboard and one of the better sex experiences living in China. It doesn't beat last weeks bachelor party in Bangkok with 5 girls in a hot tob but that's another story.[/QUOTE]
The tall beauties are still there. My baby doll says they have 500 girls but had 170 that night since it was close to CNY and most went home. My preference are the petite ladies. Since I didn't pay for the room charge or alcohol, that nights cost not so bad. Now time to go out and find some more women of the night. Happy Chinese New Year everyone!
[QUOTE=Banker24; 1118618]That's awesome to know they still have take out. Wonderland is often referred to as TSRJ or Passions as it's the same name for a very famous KTV that started in Beijing. They are affiliated but not same owners.
2500+ her 500 tip is decent. Some charge as high as 5000 for the night. It sounds like your buddy was connected and probably entertains guests there often. I'm surprised she was so short. Most girls there are at least 5'5". Usually they are closer to 6' tall. Generally the taller they are, the more expensive.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1117768]My last night in Shanghai a few nights ago. Went back to Xintiandi. No promising girls in Starbucks so I started walking outside again. Very shortly a quiet girl with glasses walked up to me. Her name was Jessie and she asked for 600 for the night.[/QUOTE]I adore Jessie, although I have never taken her home.
A few months back, my writing partner and I were dining outdoors at Anadolu (a 24 hour kebab place across fro the Hengshan Road Church and not far from the Starbuck's) when a quiet girl with glasses sat at a table near us. She got up and later returned, constantly checking her phone. I smiled at her and she joined us at our table.
She's pretty, but unremarkable. There are far prettier girls. She does not smile much and she's clearly troubled about things. She has beautiful skin and dresses conservatively, but I got to say it's that weird brain of hers that I dig.
She says she is from Beijing and we exchanged numbers, and later that night she asked if she could stay at my place as her flight back to Beijing was delayed another day. At the time I had a GF so I declined, but she offered FS at mine for 400.
Since then she and I exchanged several SMS often. She is weird and wacky and crazy smart. Sometimes she is in Beijing, sometimes Shanghai, sometimes God knows where. One exchange detailed how she wanted to pour honey on her body and have several men lick it off but she went on to say this was impossible as there was no honey left in all of China, everyone had the same idea as her and bought it all. Then she abruptly said "I am going to Macau" and disappeared for a couple weeks.
Since then, twice I have tried to catch up with her to take her home but our schedules never seem to match. She has 'appointments' sometimes or responds to my SMS at unusual hours. The last time, she did tell me she was at Xintiandi.
When I return I'll try to catch her again, so that I can give a proper report. If you run into her first, please be nice. She's a sweet but dark girl.
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1118873]I adore Jessie, although I have never taken her home.
A few months back, my writing partner and I were dining outdoors at Anadolu (a 24 hour kebab place across fro the Hengshan Road Church and not far from the Starbuck's) when a quiet girl with glasses sat at a table near us. She got up and later returned, constantly checking her phone. I smiled at her and she joined us at our table.
She's pretty, but unremarkable. There are far prettier girls. She does not smile much and she's clearly troubled about things. She has beautiful skin and dresses conservatively, but I got to say it's that weird brain of hers that I dig.
She says she is from Beijing and we exchanged numbers, and later that night she asked if she could stay at my place as her flight back to Beijing was delayed another day. At the time I had a GF so I declined, but she offered FS at mine for 400.
Since then she and I exchanged several SMS often. She is weird and wacky and crazy smart. Sometimes she is in Beijing, sometimes Shanghai, sometimes God knows where. One exchange detailed how she wanted to pour honey on her body and have several men lick it off but she went on to say this was impossible as there was no honey left in all of China, everyone had the same idea as her and bought it all. Then she abruptly said "I am going to Macau" and disappeared for a couple weeks.
Since then, twice I have tried to catch up with her to take her home but our schedules never seem to match. She has 'appointments' sometimes or responds to my SMS at unusual hours. The last time, she did tell me she was at Xintiandi.
When I return I'll try to catch her again, so that I can give a proper report. If you run into her first, please be nice. She's a sweet but dark girl. [/QUOTE]A strange story, four years ago we had a regular group of colleagues sat outside a cafe in Laoshan Lu.
A tallish girl called Jessie came up one night, introduced herself, and politely asked to join us. For four months she was a regular member of our crowd, also, really wacky, always trying to take one or two guys off to a KTV. As far as I know, she never succeeded, and vanished suddenly, who knows! A really nice personality!
Definitely could be the same girl although my Jessie didn't seem that strange. Except that she was afraid of heights, didn't want to look out my hotel window and would not ride an elevator by herself. I got her contact info, pm me and we can compare to see if it's the same girl.
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1118873]I adore Jessie, although I have never taken her home.
A few months back, my writing partner and I were dining outdoors at Anadolu (a 24 hour kebab place across fro the Hengshan Road Church and not far from the Starbuck's) when a quiet girl with glasses sat at a table near us. She got up and later returned, constantly checking her phone. I smiled at her and she joined us at our table.
She's pretty, but unremarkable. There are far prettier girls. She does not smile much and she's clearly troubled about things. She has beautiful skin and dresses conservatively, but I got to say it's that weird brain of hers that I dig.
She says she is from Beijing and we exchanged numbers, and later that night she asked if she could stay at my place as her flight back to Beijing was delayed another day. At the time I had a GF so I declined, but she offered FS at mine for 400.
Since then she and I exchanged several SMS often. She is weird and wacky and crazy smart. Sometimes she is in Beijing, sometimes Shanghai, sometimes God knows where. One exchange detailed how she wanted to pour honey on her body and have several men lick it off but she went on to say this was impossible as there was no honey left in all of China, everyone had the same idea as her and bought it all. Then she abruptly said "I am going to Macau" and disappeared for a couple weeks.
Since then, twice I have tried to catch up with her to take her home but our schedules never seem to match. She has 'appointments' sometimes or responds to my SMS at unusual hours. The last time, she did tell me she was at Xintiandi.
When I return I'll try to catch her again, so that I can give a proper report. If you run into her first, please be nice. She's a sweet but dark girl. [/QUOTE]
Since I've returned to the US and have access to the site, thought I would report of my first trip to Manhattans.
I've really stalled going to a bar as it has never been my scene. Decided to check what everyone has been talking about here. Walked in at about 10:30 and it was not crowded. Grabbed a beer and sat at a table towards the back feeling like a loser sitting by myself staring at the wall drinking a beer. The place was smaller than I expected.
There were three or four girls all sitting together and one walked over to me with long straight hair, nice and thin and started to hug me and rub my leg. I had a pill as I walked in so already feeling the affects. Found out her name was Ling from Viet and she only knew about 5 words outside her language. (Long time, Short time, and 800).
Tried to talk to her but no communication. When I asked her how long she had been here she responded with "Long time or short time" I thought, hell short time. She said 800 but we settled on 600 and left. Trouble walking as she had been rubbing the package for some time.
Took a taxi down the street to the hotel and quickly walked through the lobby without issue. Her fifth word was "condom" and I provided. She showered and had quite the spinner body on her and quite tight. The nice part is she was really into it and enjoyed our time with lots of DFK. In the lights she had an F'd up mouth though.
Anyhow, it was an experience, fine but will probably not go seek it out the same way again. If it was more natural that may be different.
I decided to go another route the rest of the week but will report on that later.
Nice to be back after a year and look to come back every three months or so.
MD40
Anyone else noticed a pattern with the BBS gals? From my experience, those offering HJ only are almost invariably from Zhejiang, while those offering anything more are, or at least claim to be, from more distant provinces like Sichuan, Hubei, Hunan, Yunnan, Fujian, and the dongbei area.
Curious, or at least I think so.
Went into Manhattan at about 11:30 pm and stayed till about 03:00 in the morning. Manhattan is about 25m by 15 m, so quite small for such an infamous venue. There was a live band playing and the place was heaving, mostly with caucasians. Beers are circa 40 RMB each. There were about 30 WGs present when I was there, mostly from Vietnam, a couple of Filipinos and maybe 2 Chinese girls. I went round asking for prices and was always quoted 2000 RMB for an overnight. I offered 1000 RMB, and the girls invariably went down to 1500 before we reached a stalemate. So I told the girls that if they change their mind, they know where at the bar to find me. I was there with a friend, so wasnt too bothered about biding my time.
Eventually, about 0300 in the morning, one of the viet girls I approached earlier came up to me. This time she offered 1000RMB + 100 RMB taxi fare for an overnight. Her name is Li, from vietnam, about 5'3". Looks wise, she is about a 6 but she has a nice athletic body on her.
Anyway, we retired to my hotel where we proceeded to make the beast with two backs after having showered together. BBBJ, DATY and some DFK were partaken in.
All in all I enjoyed her company. Only problem was that I had had too much to drink, so I fell asleep immedaitely after having done the deed and washed up. She woke me up at 08:30 am but I was too hungover to start again; so I paid her, and sent her on her way.
I would return to Manhattan again defo, though prolly not for the same girl. Manhattan is great in that one can pickup a WL in the wee hours of the morning with no problems.
Top Tip to fellow mongerers in Shanghai. Always pay at the end, never at the beginning of the session. My friend paid at the beginning and his lady left at 5 am in the morning.
Another tip: Drunk Shanghainese who are hungry during the wee hours of the morning typically go to a Chinese Restaurant called Bi Feng Tang. There are many branches open throughout Shanghai and they are open till 7 am in the morning. The wait staff are prolly among the best I've experienced in Shanghai, bar those pretentious restaurants charging ridiculous money for not a lot of food. Every taxi driver can find you a Bi Feng Tang. Just tell them "Bee Ferng Tarng"
I ventured out to a favorite pass time of mine walking among the city back streets looking for foot massage places. Besides loving foot massages, I enjoy looking for places where they try to sell the Anmo or full body or oily massages. To me, it is enjoyable to see how the communication goes during the foot wash / massage and it is usually only 50. 70 RMB (up from typically 40 last year).
If the connection goes well, I may take them up with the additional services but the nice part is I have control with limited money and time spent.
I found a place close to City Center near Manhattans. From Shaanxi Road (and Nanjing Road) travel N two blocks (past a formal looking Massage place on R). Turn left and go down a couple hundred meters on the left will be a foot massage place.
First clue is they always have an extra room for the additional massages. This place uses the additional rooms for foot massages also. When they have a shower and bathroom you know this is what we came for. So, ask for foot massage, (here they speak no English) go to the room and enjoy the 68 RMB 45-60 min massage. During, they always ask if you want an oily massage. I tried it here 3 different times and although not great in the looks department, they were fantastic with the massages.
The massages rivaled any professional massage but they also included the HE and they were all amazing with their technique. Price was 168 but if you want to play with the tatas they want a tip. Once I gave them 300 for the two hours inc. Tip and it was fine and another time another girl wanted 100 tip.
Again, girls in the lower looks range but were fantastic in their talents. Would definitely suggest, especially at this rate.
If you go, please report.
MD40
So I worked all day and left the office late. Around the corner from my apartment is a massage place I go to regularly, massage is 130rmb and HJ 200 extra. Anyway, it's new years and the palce was closed. However, there is a new place I've never been to because it looks expensive but it's late (10pm) and NY so not much open and not so cold that I just want to get home.
This place always has a pretty girl sitting in the door but as I suspected, she is just for show and not one of the massage girls. The 90 min. Oil massage is 390rmb, yup, as I thought, expensive but it's NY so I think I'll give myself a treat.
Walked up to a nice big room with a shown and toilet. The massage girl is very pretty, way prettier than the gals at the cheaper place I usually go. So I take a shower and she comes back after I've got on the baggy blue shorts. Face down on the table she gives me the normal massage then after about 15 mins on the back she pulls down the shorts and plays very nicely with my ass. Then comes the typical you want HJ you give me tip, only she's asking for 600, LOL. So I just tell her no thanks. She persists, now with some nice kissing, and says she'll make it a BJ, so I figure again, why not, she's working on NY and needs some $ too.
So down go the shorts and she starts with a HJ and some sucking and I let my hands start wondering and she doesn't mind. Soon she just pulls off her stockings and underwear and now we're into a nice 69 and she's into it, moaning and bouncing and BBBJ. This went on quite a while and was really great. We both enjoyed alot. Finally I shot my load and then we washed up.
She continued with the klissing and cuddling while I dressed and told me she really liked my cock; wondering how true that is, whether she liked the cock or that I'm an ATM. Whaterver, I was happy, she was happy. Way more than I would typically pay and I know Bodi etc. Are better bang for the buck, but I may go back and see if I can convice her to come over to my place and hang out some time when she is not working. She was really pretty and fun in bed so I think she would be even more fun if I could get her to my room. And the good thing would be she works long hours so wouldn't hassle me about wanting to move in like the last girl I met.
I took a business collegue to 999 yesterday, in hopes of Red Rope and "soapie" first time experience for him.
Granted, it was Chinese New Year Eve so I didn't expect a huge lineup of girls in the "fishbowl" to choose from.
The curtain went up and room (worn and tattered) was empty. The manager had to make multiple calls to the girls and only 3 came out very reluctantly.
Waited in a VIP room for 15 minutes with hopes of improving lineup. Very little difference.
We each chose a girl (his was a real cutie who had just finished with a customer) , mine was about a 7/10 in looks but performance was very good. But unlike before when the girl would rarely leave before the 70 minutes was up, his girl rushed through a quickie. Skipping the full soapie treatment and cat bath.
The manager also said that there is no longer RED ROPE available.
Now the kicker. Bill was 800 yuan with no afternoon discount.
The 999 business card is completely changed. So I assume there is new management.
Also, the big red "999" address sign outside is gone.
Overall, very disappointing considering the level of service we used to get there before the sauna was shut down during the Expo. Because this was the Chinese New Year, I'll give 999 the benefit of the doubt for its poor service this time. I won't return however, unless there are some other positive reports from other mongers.
My number one favorite place is still Heting Elite which sets the standard for value and class.
[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1119486]So down go the shorts and she starts with a HJ and some sucking and I let my hands start wondering and she doesn't mind. Soon she just pulls off her stockings and underwear and now we're into a nice 69 and she's into it, moaning and bouncing and BBBJ. This went on quite a while and was really great. We both enjoyed alot. Finally I shot my load and then we washed up.
She continued with the klissing and cuddling while I dressed and told me she really liked my cock; wondering how true that is, whether she liked the cock or that I'm an ATM. Whaterver, I was happy, she was happy. Way more than I would typically pay and I know Bodi etc. Are better bang for the buck, but I may go back and see if I can convice her to come over to my place and hang out some time when she is not working. She was really pretty and fun in bed so I think she would be even more fun if I could get her to my room. And the good thing would be she works long hours so wouldn't hassle me about wanting to move in like the last girl I met. [/QUOTE]If she accepts your invitation to see her after work, and if you start hanging out together, and if she gets to know your ATM passcode, and if you get married, how many of the ISG bruvvers will you invite to the wedding?
Often I am in Shanghai. .
Cheers.
P13
[QUOTE=Maddog40; 1119466].
The massages rivaled any professional massage but they also included the HE and they were all amazing with their technique. Price was 168 but if you want to play with the tatas they want a tip. Once I gave them 300 for the two hours inc. Tip and it was fine and another time another girl wanted 100 tip.
Again, girls in the lower looks range but were fantastic in their talents. Would definitely suggest, especially at this rate.
If you go, please report.
MD40[/QUOTE]Excellent report from Maddog. Attitude and skill beats looks. There are 100s of millions of 2nd tier lookers in China, almost all with hearts of gold. .
Just my experience (based on sampling of dozens.).
Besides, when you are about to cum, its all the same! .
Enjoy.
P13
Hey bros,
So through recommendations in another fora, I've stumbled upon a reliable outcall girl. This being Shanghai, I've discovered that reliable outcalls are rare so I though I would do a little FR for the bros on ISG.
Before I go on, I must preface the account by stating the SHE SPEAKS NO ENGLISH.
So a couple nights ago, I gave her a call, and she arrived at my hotel room about 30 minutes later. She is Chinese, about 21 years old and is slim and petite. I think she stands at maybe 5'3" tall. Looks wise, she is about a 7. As with most Chinese girls her breasts are about an A or B cup and she is not clean shaven down there; still TIC and I actually kinda like my girls like this. I digress.
We proceeded to cuddle and then she started to arouse me by gently stroking me, and by giving BBBJ. She is very gentle and I like my girls like that. Her BBBJ was v good imo and she did not cheat like some girls do by using their hands. What followed is the standard making of the beasts with 2 backs but throughout she talked to me and it was a great GFE.
All in all, I would defo see her again as I felt totally comfortable under her ministerings, unlike with many girls where there is an element of being rushed.
Now the bad (ish) part. She wants 1000RMB / hr. I bang on about sticking to one's principles and not spoiling the market rate, but with her I think it was a good punt. I rationalised it by telling myself that going to a spa late at night would set me back at least 850 RMB, not including the fuckabout factor in taking a cab there and back. Here, I called her and she arrived.
So if any ISG bros want her contact, leave me a PM and if you are a good member, I will give you the contact. Sorry to be a cock blocking bastard about this but it has to be this way.
[QUOTE=Krisowens555; 1119507]I took a business collegue to 999 yesterday, in hopes of Red Rope and "soapie" first time experience for him.
Granted, it was Chinese New Year Eve so I didn't expect a huge lineup of girls in the "fishbowl" to choose from.
The curtain went up and room (worn and tattered) was empty. The manager had to make multiple calls to the girls and only 3 came out very reluctantly.
Waited in a VIP room for 15 minutes with hopes of improving lineup. Very little difference.
We each chose a girl (his was a real cutie who had just finished with a customer) , mine was about a 7/10 in looks but performance was very good. But unlike before when the girl would rarely leave before the 70 minutes was up, his girl rushed through a quickie. Skipping the full soapie treatment and cat bath.
The manager also said that there is no longer RED ROPE available.
Now the kicker. Bill was 800 yuan with no afternoon discount.
The 999 business card is completely changed. So I assume there is new management.
Also, the big red "999" address sign outside is gone.
Overall, very disappointing considering the level of service we used to get there before the sauna was shut down during the Expo. Because this was the Chinese New Year, I'll give 999 the benefit of the doubt for its poor service this time. I won't return however, unless there are some other positive reports from other mongers.
My number one favorite place is still Heting Elite which sets the standard for value and class. [/QUOTE]Hey Bro,
I'm happy to see that I am not alone in my bad experience with the recentlt reopened 999.
It was actually my first sauna time in China, and after all the reviews I've red about 999, I was 100% sure it would be the safest bet ever for me to have an awesome time down here.
Guess, what?
I had the exact same context : Poor lineup, reluctant ladies (about 5 or 6 of them, from 5 to 8/10).
I chose the 892, which was a stunner at first sight, and I believe she was the rushy one your friend had.
She gave NO soapie massage, NO nuru, NO BBBJ, NO rimjob, NO GFE, kept asking for me to come, which is a fucking pain in the ass.
She kept going with poor CBJ for very short times and then couldn't touch her (I had a struggle to actually grab her boobs) , she used her poor handjob skills almost all the time and I had to finish myself ffs!
Do not go for 892, she's a trick, at least for us laowai.
My friend got the 835, she was awesome, did it all and very GFE. If that can be of any help.
The next day we went to the Sacrosa, although the lineup was very poor : only 3 girls, there were 2 cuties on very long legged and awesome body (slim, A cup siliconed) , the other one petite and very curvy (in a good way).
I had my first REAL sauna experience there, it was awesome, RJ, BBBJ, Willingness to please all the time, did not complain for stupid reasons like at 999.
When it comes to the maths, the answer is very clear :
Sacrosa : 550 rmb afternoon hours.
999:800 (ffs!) rmb whatever hours.
We complained about the 892 girl at 999, the manager was like smiling to his friends like he knew something was wrong with her, or didn't care at all about us being unhappy with her service.
If 999 is under new management, it is certainly not for the better.
Cheers,
Dibert
[QUOTE=Krisowens555; 1119507]I took a business collegue to 999 yesterday, in hopes of Red Rope and "soapie" first time experience for him.
Granted, it was Chinese New Year Eve so I didn't expect a huge lineup of girls in the "fishbowl" to choose from.
The curtain went up and room (worn and tattered) was empty. The manager had to make multiple calls to the girls and only 3 came out very reluctantly.
Waited in a VIP room for 15 minutes with hopes of improving lineup. Very little difference.
We each chose a girl (his was a real cutie who had just finished with a customer) , mine was about a 7/10 in looks but performance was very good. But unlike before when the girl would rarely leave before the 70 minutes was up, his girl rushed through a quickie. Skipping the full soapie treatment and cat bath.
The manager also said that there is no longer RED ROPE available.
Now the kicker. Bill was 800 yuan with no afternoon discount.
The 999 business card is completely changed. So I assume there is new management.
Also, the big red "999" address sign outside is gone.
Overall, very disappointing considering the level of service we used to get there before the sauna was shut down during the Expo. Because this was the Chinese New Year, I'll give 999 the benefit of the doubt for its poor service this time. I won't return however, unless there are some other positive reports from other mongers.
My number one favorite place is still Heting Elite which sets the standard for value and class.[/QUOTE]Hey Bro,
I'm happy to see that I am not alone in my bad experience with the recentlt reopened 999.
It was actually my first sauna time in China, and after all the reviews I've red about 999, I was 100% sure it would be the safest bet ever for me to have an awesome time down here.
Guess, what?
I had the exact same context : Poor lineup, reluctant ladies (about 5 or 6 of them, from 5 to 8/10).
I chose the 892, which was a stunner at first sight, and I believe she was the rushy one your friend had.
She gave NO soapie massage, NO nuru, NO BBBJ, NO rimjob, NO GFE, kept asking for me to come, which is a fucking pain in the ass.
She kept going with poor CBJ for very short times and then couldn't touch her (I had a struggle to actually grab her boobs) , she used her poor handjob skills almost all the time and I had to finish myself ffs!
Do not go for 892, she's a trick, at least for us laowai.
My friend got the 835, she was awesome, did it all and very GFE. If that can be of any help.
The next day we went to the Sacrosa, although the lineup was very poor : only 3 girls, there were 2 cuties on very long legged and awesome body (slim, A cup siliconed) , the other one petite and very curvy (in a good way).
I had my first REAL sauna experience there, it was awesome, RJ, BBBJ, Willingness to please all the time, did not complain for stupid reasons like at 999.
When it comes to the maths, the answer is very clear :
Sacrosa : 550 rmb afternoon hours.
999:800 (ffs!) rmb whatever hours.
We complained about the 892 girl at 999, the manager was like smiling to his friends like he knew something was wrong with her, or didn't care at all about us being unhappy with her service.
If 999 is under new management, it is certainly not for the better.
Cheers,
Dibert
Visited 999 for the first time recently. Expected to get the "before 6 pm" discount that was reported by fellow monger before but it turned out that 999 changed price policy and charge 800 RMB regardless of time. Second disappointment was that the famous red rope service is not offered any more. However had a nice choice among 20 cuties. In average much better looking than Sacrosa girls. Choose #869 (6/10) because of nice C-cup tits and nice smile. Soapie message was excellent. Then BBBJ while she moved her pussy near my face to encourage me for a 69. So we had 69 with a lot of moaning for 10 min. Followed by missionary and finished in doggy. Overall good experience. However since red rope is not offered any more. 999 lost its special attraction for my opinion. Will try Heting next time.
I've been to the same massage place 4 times just for fun to see how variable it is. Every time got a happy ending, and a great massage, but some variation in service. The oil massage is 298 RMB, but they have a shorter one for around 200. I think the shorter one is the better value. The girls at this place wear jeans and sweaters, not exactly sexy outfits. The place is clean, pleasant, they turn on the heat. This one is in downtown Puxi. I'd give a name and address, but it seems most massage places are pretty much all the same, and no point in getting them in trouble.
Trip #1, (Girl A) I just laid there, enjoying the massage, not trying to act too interested, not talking much. A little small talk. Same bargaining technique I use in the fake market. Eventually the girl asked, 'do it out? ' by which she meant happy ending. I said yes, and got the HE for no extra charge.
Trip #2, (Girl B) , we hit it off pretty well. She encouraged my limited mandarin, and gave a pretty good message. We talked about lots of things, including what we liked. I like sex. She likes money as it turns out. She said she wouldn't have sex with me, though. However she gave a good happy ending, allowing lots of groping of the boobs, but it cost me another 200.
Trip #3, (Asked for Girl A again). Still a great massage, but this time insisted that I tip her an extra 100, and no groping allowed. Turns out, though, she was leaving the shop to go to one in Pudong the next day.
Trip #4, (Girl C) , Went for the shorter oil massage. It took us a while to get my limited mandarin going. Once she realized I could speak some, she relaxed a bit. Great massage again. Offered a happy ending, but insisted on a tip. We settled on 200 for the happy ending.
Except for Girl A, I don't think anyone recognized me from repeat visits only a few weeks apart.
Tried this place recommended by Gyager22. Went in late on a cold night. Shower was nice, but no help. Room kind of cold. Was well taken care of by a pretty lady who said she hadn't had sex in a year. Apparently I couldn't help her either. Pleasant HE with plenty of groping for a modest tip.
Went trolling before dinner with friends remember there was a report Around the plaza 66 area. Maddog40's report about the location could not have been more precise. It's funny you walk in tell them you want a back massage and they escort you through a door then through a sister restaurant and up the stairs to a hotel room. Chose the 168 oil massage and it was a good deep massage. Girl was from Hubei, a little thicker than what I like but you can't complain when it's just a "massage". She gave a nice deep massage and then eventually started playin with willy. I love it when they grab you down under, eventually she tells you to flip over and you negotiate. Although she was a little thick I wanted to see her naked. She had nice full C's with the cutest ariola nipple combination. So I told her 100, 200 and finally she agreed to 300 naked. It was nice, she let me finger her, lick her boobs and own her. She did not want to go all the way but I think she started to like me as you can see it in her expressions. Eventually round 1 was done but she still liked giving me a massage. After 15 minutes I wanted her to do it again so we added another 1/2 hour. This time she kissed me, a little tongue and let me go anywhere I wanted. Pop 2 and total damage was 252 rmb to the house. 400 to her. I felt a little giving since it was CNY! Yeah I could of went to pudong for FS for 600 but liked maddog said sometimes working these girls is more fun
To do on a lazy afternoon. She finished washing me in the shower and I mosey on down the road. I am not sure if you would get the same treatment if you do not speak mandarin.
[QUOTE=Maddog40; 1119466]I ventured out to a favorite pass time of mine walking among the city back streets looking for foot massage places. Besides loving foot massages, I enjoy looking for places where they try to sell the Anmo or full body or oily massages. To me, it is enjoyable to see how the communication goes during the foot wash / massage and it is usually only 50. 70 RMB (up from typically 40 last year).
If the connection goes well, I may take them up with the additional services but the nice part is I have control with limited money and time spent.
I found a place close to City Center near Manhattans. From Shaanxi Road (and Nanjing Road) travel N two blocks (past a formal looking Massage place on R). Turn left and go down a couple hundred meters on the left will be a foot massage place.
First clue is they always have an extra room for the additional massages. This place uses the additional rooms for foot massages also. When they have a shower and bathroom you know this is what we came for. So, ask for foot massage, (here they speak no English) go to the room and enjoy the 68 RMB 45-60 min massage. During, they always ask if you want an oily massage. I tried it here 3 different times and although not great in the looks department, they were fantastic with the massages.
The massages rivaled any professional massage but they also included the HE and they were all amazing with their technique. Price was 168 but if you want to play with the tatas they want a tip. Once I gave them 300 for the two hours inc. Tip and it was fine and another time another girl wanted 100 tip.
Again, girls in the lower looks range but were fantastic in their talents. Would definitely suggest, especially at this rate.
If you go, please report.
MD40[/QUOTE]
Have gone there several times and had 39 and 9. All inclusive but I tip 40rmb out of the 258. Nice ass play and HE is included.
9 lets hands roam freely and panties to knees. I offered her 500 for FS but she said 10000. I laughed it off.
PC out
Hi,
Does anyone know if the Golden 18 Club is still operating?
I have some free time tomorrow and it is only a 15 minute walk.
Thanks,
K
[QUOTE=Mello Yello; 891416]I was pushed for time and it was the afternoon, not the sort of time to go around BBS, so I ended up at a quite decent looking massage / spa on Xietu Lu / Nandan Lu next door to a convenient store and less than 50m from my local sauna place above cafe 85c bakery. (see previous post)
I'd been in this place 3 times before just for a body massage / foot massage for only rmb88. All legit and quite relaxing. Overall, the place is clean, safe and the manager or mamasan who is always dressed very well, is also very pretty and speaks english.
Anyway, this time I wanted to try an oil massage (rmb198) , so I told the girl and she ushered me into the furtherest back area of the premises into a room no more than 10ft x 10ft. The room had a small shower cubicle, a massage bed, and an aircon unit. OK, so I waited no more than a minute when the prettiest girl arrives. (9/10 stunner). She then makes the bed, and gives me a pair of disposable paper shorts to put on. (to be honest, a waste of time as she'll have them off later!). So onto the oil massage on the back first, then the legs. Thats when she then removes the paper shorts. (20mins into massage). So off they come, with a struggle, and then proceeds to massage the important areas. Very erotic, enough to have you gagging for it. After 10 mins of ball tickling, she turns you over for the main event. No need to describe, but as I said, this girl is definitely a 9 and with a great smile. Tried to touch her up, she never resisted but then again never got much muff to play with. But had I changed positions slightly then a different story.
So to finish, a quick shower, and pay the girl at the desk only rmb198. There were other prices, rmb298 & rmb398 longer time and probably more variety, but will try it out one bored day.
* Just had a Sichuan girl, definitely 9/10 and VERY friendly. No English but nice chatting in my basic Chinese.
Will definitely go back.
[QUOTE=Killban; 1120871]Hi,
Does anyone know if the Golden 18 Club is still operating?
I have some free time tomorrow and it is only a 15 minute walk.
Thanks,
K[/QUOTE]Closed. You need a plan B. If you are near Jing'an, you are near Metro Line 2. Best bet today is Sacrosa. I quote a previous poster for directions:
It is set back off the street into the courtyard of a shopping mall. Address is 1085 Pudong Road (S). From Subway Line 2, Century Ave. Station (NOT Century Park station) , exit out of the Zhangyang Road exit. When you exit out, technically, you will not be on Zhangyang Road but will be on the sidewalk that will lead you to it, so pay attention to the street signs before proceeding. Head West down Zhangyang Road toward where it intersects with Pudong Road (S). The walk is about 15-20 minutes through some serious people traffic as there is a shopping mall nearby. You should pass the Next Age (New Age?) shopping mall on your right as you walk. When you reach the Pudong Road (S) intersection, turn right onto Pudong Road (S). You will pass a KFC, Haagen-Daaz and Pizza Hut on your right. Keep looking to your right and eventually you will see a courtyard of a shopping mall, with a fountain surrounded by animal statutes. Walk straight toward the fountain and look to your left. You will see a sign "French Connection" (black & white) and "Steak King" (red and white, looks alot like the Burger King sign). Walk down the alleyway that is in-between these two signs. Soon, you will see 1085 address on your right. The building is named "Hua Shen Mansion." Go to the 5th Floor.
[QUOTE=Killban;1120871]Does anyone know if the Golden 18 Club is still operating?[/QUOTE]Golden 18 Club on Wulumuqi Road is but a fading, pleasant memory kept alive only by the now useless VIP card in my desk drawer. It has passed from this world, seemingly never to return.
[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1121025]Golden 18 Club on Wulumuqi Road is but a fading, pleasant memory kept alive only by the now useless VIP card in my desk drawer. It has passed from this world, seemingly never to return.[/QUOTE]Yes, it was indeed a very nice place.
I will be in Shanghai in May and was wondering if there are any massage places within walking distance near JW Marrriot hotel on Nanjing Road where I can get HJ or full service. I understand the hotel is near the "fake market". I would really appreciate any info. Thanks guys
[url]http://www.5ccl.info/ons/?108135-1.html[/url]
Was informed in the previous post, but never tried, anybody has good experiences for this site?
Thanks Dirknblane for the report and support. It is nice to contribute and even better when it not only helps someone else but the also add to the mix with a report. I guess I should have pushed it more to get some more but now I know.
MD40.
[QUOTE=Dirknblane; 1120551]Went trolling before dinner with friends remember there was a report Around the plaza 66 area. Maddog40's report about the location could not have been more precise. It's funny you walk in tell them you want a back massage and they escort you through a door then through a sister restaurant and up the stairs to a hotel room. Chose the 168 oil massage and it was a good deep massage. Girl was from Hubei, a little thicker than what I like but you can't complain when it's just a "massage". She gave a nice deep massage and then eventually started playin with willy. I love it when they grab you down under, eventually she tells you to flip over and you negotiate. Although she was a little thick I wanted to see her naked. She had nice full C's with the cutest ariola nipple combination. So I told her 100, 200 and finally she agreed to 300 naked. It was nice, she let me finger her, lick her boobs and own her. She did not want to go all the way but I think she started to like me as you can see it in her expressions. Eventually round 1 was done but she still liked giving me a massage. After 15 minutes I wanted her to do it again so we added another 1/2 hour. This time she kissed me, a little tongue and let me go anywhere I wanted. Pop 2 and total damage was 252 rmb to the house. 400 to her. I felt a little giving since it was CNY! Yeah I could of went to pudong for FS for 600 but liked maddog said sometimes working these girls is more fun
To do on a lazy afternoon. She finished washing me in the shower and I mosey on down the road. I am not sure if you would get the same treatment if you do not speak mandarin. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1121009]Closed. You need a plan B. If you are near Jing'an, you are near Metro Line 2. Best bet today is Sacrosa. I quote a previous poster for directions:[/QUOTE]Next Age is better known as "Ba Bai Ban" just step into a taxi and ask for Ba Bai Ban, Sacrosa, is immediately around the corner in Pudong Nan Lu, same block as Ba Bai Ban!
Fz
It's been a while since I've been to manhattan. But yesterday night I really needed to get some "love". And cuddle a bit. So I went back there.
The place was not crowded at all in customers but enough pretty girls for everyone.
Stayed there a bit before a very nice vietnamese girl came up to me.
She asked me right away to go back to my place and I asked her how much she wanted. 1000RMB she said. For the night? Yes she replied. Ok I went for it.
Once arrived home. We cuddled a bit. Nice. And she took all my clothes off. Played a bit before having sex. BBBJ, DATY and then we had sex. And I came quickly. She showered me while kissing me everywhere. Back to bed to sleep for a while. And after a bit, I felt a hand playing with my little didi. Then BBBJ and cum on breast. I
I came four times in total. Two cums on breast. And she left at 10:30am. For 1000 rmb, it's a good deal.
She was not the cutest ever, but her body was perfect with a long haired pussy, yummy. And small perfect tits. And most of all, she was really very friendly.
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1121009]Closed. You need a plan B. If you are near Jing'an, you are near Metro Line 2. Best bet today is Sacrosa. I quote a previous poster for directions:
It is set back off the street into the courtyard of a shopping mall. Address is 1085 Pudong Road (S). From Subway Line 2, Century Ave. Station (NOT Century Park station) , exit out of the Zhangyang Road exit. When you exit out, technically, you will not be on Zhangyang Road but will be on the sidewalk that will lead you to it, so pay attention to the street signs before proceeding. Head West down Zhangyang Road toward where it intersects with Pudong Road (S). The walk is about 15-20 minutes through some serious people traffic as there is a shopping mall nearby. You should pass the Next Age (New Age?) shopping mall on your right as you walk. When you reach the Pudong Road (S) intersection, turn right onto Pudong Road (S). You will pass a KFC, Haagen-Daaz and Pizza Hut on your right. Keep looking to your right and eventually you will see a courtyard of a shopping mall, with a fountain surrounded by animal statutes. Walk straight toward the fountain and look to your left. You will see a sign "French Connection" (black & white) and "Steak King" (red and white, looks alot like the Burger King sign). Walk down the alleyway that is in-between these two signs. Soon, you will see 1085 address on your right. The building is named "Hua Shen Mansion." Go to the 5th Floor. [/QUOTE]Thanks for this. However, I did not read it until I got back from my travels.
Google Maps suggests that the quickest route is to get off Line 2 at Dongchang Lu.
As a further report, I decided that after 8 days in the wilds of China for New Year, that what I needed was a basic massage. I went to my old haunt of Changyi Lu. I know it is an expensive place to go, but I am comfortable there, and it seemed the easiest option.
I went to a massage place there where I had a 60 minute oil massage that was totally legit. I was actually very glad of it. I had spent 8 days sleeping on beds like floors, so I wanted a massage to sooth my aching limbs. It was 198RMB for a 60 minute massage, and I think the quality was well up there.
However, the monger in me wanted a bit more, so against my better judgement, I wandered around and went to another place where I knew things would be on the less legit side.
I was convinced to have 90 minutes for 300RMB instead of 60 minutes for 200RMB. Not exactly a bargin, but, I was happy enough to pay. My masseuse was very nice, spoke to me in Chinese, and I responded in my adequate Chinese. As I had the two massages very close together, I noticed a definite difference in the techniques. The legit massage was forceful, but not overly so. The second was very much to excite. It was good to compare.
At the second place, the girl was very soft and sensual, and I knew that she knew why I was there. After I turned onto my back, she asked if I wanted a happy ending. I agreed, and we started bargaining. I got her to agree to 300RMB. She wanted 400RMB to be topless, which I agreed to. She was a 7 in looks, and she was really pleasant, so it was fine. She was a nice C cup, so that is why I was ok with it. She then said that for another 200RMB she would give me a tit wank. I was ok with that as well. Sometimes, the little head thinks faster than the big head.
It was a good massage, and she was not overly pushy, which is what I like.
To summarise, I had a more thorough massage at the first place, a gentle massage and tit wank at the second, and my damage for the evening was 1100RMB. Expensive, I know, but sometimes, I like an actual massage, and after my week away from Shanghai, that was just what I was after.
I will probably end up in Changyi Lu tomorrow night with the guys from work, as we always seem to end up there when we go out on a Friday. Maybe I will stop and have another massage.
Hii Broder,
I will be shanghai next week and I will stay in Ever bright hotel. Any body can give me good saunas or BBS adress or name near my hotel.
Thank all,
Ing
so we all know about manhattan and what you get there (phils and viets, mostly) , and bar rouge (overpriced, bad service, not really a pick up bar but some wg's who want way too much money). so where did all the chinese wg's go after manhattan and judy's lost them, and after most of the trl bars rep001tered (and after julu lu closed)? i know there are still some talking bars, but mostly those are just good for spending tons of money on drinks and then going home alone or heading to one of the aforementioned places.
tips? or has shanghai become more of a sauna / ktv city now?
-b-
[QUOTE=Bonzo1;1122343]So where did all the Chinese WG's go after Manhattan and Judy's lost them.........Tips? Or has Shanghai become more of a sauna / KTV city now?[/QUOTE]Great question. I have wondered this for years.
I would even go back to when Maoming Lu closed. At that time Bourbon St was in full swing on Hangshan Lu. If you could not find a good Chinese w.hore in Bourbon St - you went around the corner to Manhattan and Judys on Maoming Lu - they were wall to wall.
Add all the streetwalkers outside on Maoming Lu and it was like a smorgasboard.
Even when Maoming Lu closed and Manhattan and Judys re-located to TongRen Lu there was manyChinese. But in new locations YES there numbers now seem insignificant.
Xin Tian Di has some on offer. Revolution / Paulaner but slim pickings. Some FL walking around outside. But your question is so valid. Where oh where in SH are the Chinse w.hores working in a bar type environment?
[QUOTE=Ing Hayalet; 1122128]Hii Broder,
I will be shanghai next week and I will stay in Ever bright hotel. Any body can give me good saunas or BBS adress or name near my hotel.
Thank all,
Ing[/QUOTE]Which Ever Bright? There is more than one. Yishan Road, Caobao Road or Hengfeng Road?
Hi,
I'm going to be in Shanghai for the next 3 days on business and have a yearning to go for a super mongering session for those 3 days. I don't get a chance to monger often, and here is my best and probably only chance ever this year!
I'm going to be staying at the luwan district. Any decent saunas or bbs nearby? I don't mind travelling around the metro or taxi either, so recommendations to the best sauna would be great. And backed up by a post expo experience! From the recent reports, sacrosa seems a safe bet. Are they still doing an afternoon price?
What does one ask for when entering a sauna or bbs for FS without embarassing . E, g I wouldn't walk in and ask say "ni hao, wo you zuo ai." or would I?
Unrealted mongering question, does anyone know which bus route or metro to take to get from hong qiao airport to xin tian di?
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1122364]Which Ever Bright? There is more than one. Yishan Road, Caobao Road or Hengfeng Road?[/QUOTE]Everright in caobao?
Just go to the 3rd floor,
And 999 is not far
Hey everybody!
I'm new here, so pleasure to meet you all.
I went yesterday to Sacrosa as I've been reading your forum. As everybody knows, it's a hell to find. There's an Ajisen in the building just in front of the 1085 building (where Sacrosa is) , the entrance looks gloomy, with two Bao'An (Chinese building guards with policemen-like uniforms) , do not expect any mention of Sacrosa, just go straight to the elevator and press 5.
I'm more a legit massage+HJ kinda guy, so it was my third time in a spa (the first one in a hotel in Huadu, a satellite town of Guangzhou, and the second one was in Wugong on fuzhou lu). Compared to the two other places, especially Wugong, I was greatly delighted by the atmosphere, it's clean and well furnished.
Anyway, after the shower, no scrub and waiting room, they took me to the girls. I saw on this forum that Sacrosa girls are not the hottest in town compared to other places I chose #206 because she happens to look just like a girl I used to date couple of years ago (is it wrong?). All the girls laughed when I picked her, I don't know what the hell was so funny about.
She took me to the room. When she undressed I realized that she was different from my ex-girlfriend who was a big nice C, she is just a A. Anyway, those A were firm, round with nice nipples so I didn't regret my choice after having my hands on. Nice ass, nice body, very pretty eyes and a cute smile even thought she looked a bit reluctant at first. She is from Yunnan and is 23. Of course, she kept on saying "wow, so big" when she saw my cock, I wonder if they say this to Chinese guys too. She started with a bubble massage, it was very relaxing, when she was about to finish she started to bite gently which totally turned me on. She gave me a quick BJ, she said that my dick was too big to keep on doing it (this big cock thing is really more an excuse than a compliment) and we started to do the thing.
I always try to be nice to WG telling them that they can any time say if I'm hurting them or too heavy during mish (I'm more than 200 lbt.) Even though I do it often, I always feel a bit guilty because I know that they are doing a hard job, so I never do things too extreme or too violent. With all the pleasure those girls give in our life, I just believe that they deserve some respect. I really liked her body, I really hated her fake moaning, I hate all of them.
After this, she asked me very politely if she could give her call to her family. Like I said before, I feel guilty with WG, so I let her do so and she was really thankful for that. She ended quick and explained to me that her brother left her parents' house without leaving a message for more than one month and just came back. She was really angry and explained to me that she was doing this job because she wanted to earn money to make him go to college.
We then cuddle and kept on talking about this and that (I speak Chinese, she doesn't seem to speak English). It was really nice, I think I'll go back there but I want to try this Bodi place that everybody is talking about.
[QUOTE=Osuul; 1122450]Everright in caobao?
Just go to the 3rd floor,
And 999 is not far[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1122364]Which Ever Bright? There is more than one. Yishan Road, Caobao Road or Hengfeng Road?[/QUOTE]In EverBright Caobao just wait in your room in the evening and they call you if you want a massage.
[QUOTE=Osuul; 1122450]Everright in caobao?
Just go to the 3rd floor,
And 999 is not far[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1122364]Which Ever Bright? There is more than one. Yishan Road, Caobao Road or Hengfeng Road?[/QUOTE]In EverBright Caobao just wait in your room in the evening and they call you if you want a massage.
There are two places nearby Zhongshan Park which provide massage+HJ.
They are located on the same block on Changning Lu cross Gubei Lu.
The first one has a blinking sign which makes it easy to find (the girls at the entrance make the obvious). Mini-skirts apart, the place looks somehow legit, which was, in my opinion, a safe choice during the Expo. Get in, the manager will take you upstairs and ask if you want an oil massage. It is 300rmb for 90 min, but you don't need to tip for a HJ.
The first time I went there I had a real cutie from Zhejiang but I forgot her number so each time I go there, they put me with other ladies (there is no fishbowl). I have to say the quality of women is really random from 4 to 8, since I'm 26, I had to send back some of them before because they look like almost 40. The quality of massage is also very random, some girls can provide high quality massages while others are pure disaster. I've been there dozens of time during the 6 months but I've never had the same girl twice. All the girls I had there were pretty ok to let me touch them, once again, it's also very random some won't let you put your hands under their clothes while other will get naked and let you finger them, still without asking for tip.
The last time I was there was during last week, I was thinking that the oldest ladies would go back to their hometown for Chinese new years while the youngest would have to stay to make some extra money. Damn, I was so wrong. I had a nice and smiley aunty, who took off her leggings at the beginning of the session. She asked me 300 for a BBBJ but I refused, she was not hot enough, so just had a HJ.
I still don't know why the hottest girls always seem to be downstairs, it can't be to attract customers because they always go in and out a small room; I think that next time I will ask the manager to make me chose between them instead of having aunties going to my room.
Two doors away, there's a second massage parlor way smaller. It's very dark inside but girls can be chosen at the entrance, girl there are in their early twenties, not super sexy but they are cute, smiley with a great attitude. The price of oil massage+HJ is cheaper there (200rmb) because they ask for tip if you want to touch them.
They take you downstairs for a shower (you shower alone) and get in your room. I always go there for a young sichuanese, the first time I went there I got her really horny she got really wet while was giving me crazy HJ. Last month, I went there and she proposed to me to have FS (I think you really need to connect with the girl there and get their trust before they ask you this) , she asked for 500 but I went down to 300 because it was the only cash I had left. I never believe those girls when they say they like you, etc. But this one seemed to be more turned on than me to do it so she accepted it. She was kissing me and was not doing any fake moaning.
Those places have been around for a long time already, they were not closed during the expo and keeping on giving HJ during this period. Now, with the Expo gone, it seems like they propose more services than HJ. So if you are in Zhongshan park and just want a massage with maybe not the hottest but at least very nice and cute girls, you can go there.
I speak Chinese, so I'm sorry I have absolutely no idea about their English skills.
Nice report to read mattsh.
I went two days ago to wuzhong lu in one nice massage places with really cute girls.
I asked for a 60min massage (was 128rmb) + 100 rmb tip for Happy Ending.
I got my very relaxing massage when things started to get more interested.
I was laying down on my back when started the HJ. The beautiful friendly lady took off her pant showing me her beautiful sexy pink thong and took care of my buddy. Then she asked me if I wanted her to took off her bra, I refused, she wanted 100 more for that. After I refused she offered a blowjob for 300 RMB, means 428 rmb for the whole session. But I didn't have enough money and told her. She said ok I 'll do the job for 200 RMB. She finally ended up naked giving me a blowjob for 328 yuan after a 45 minutes relaxing massage. Damage is not bad!
Dear broder,
Thank for quick replay. &304; Will stay ever bright hotel near neighbour exhibition Center. Please help me if they any suaunas bbs massage house or some special house or apartment near there please help me
Thank for all
[QUOTE=Pookgai;1122446]Unrealted mongering question, does anyone know which bus route or metro to take to get from hong qiao airport to xin tian di?[/QUOTE]Metro Line 10 goes directly from the airport to Xintiandi station. Doesn't get any easier than that!
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1122792]Nice report to read mattsh.
I went two days ago to wuzhong lu in one nice massage places with really cute girls.
I asked for a 60min massage (was 128rmb) + 100 rmb tip for Happy Ending.
I got my very relaxing massage when things started to get more interested.
I was laying down on my back when started the HJ. The beautiful friendly lady took off her pant showing me her beautiful sexy pink thong and took care of my buddy. Then she asked me if I wanted her to took off her bra, I refused, she wanted 100 more for that. After I refused she offered a blowjob for 300 RMB, means 428 rmb for the whole session. But I didn't have enough money and told her. She said ok I 'll do the job for 200 RMB. She finally ended up naked giving me a blowjob for 328 yuan after a 45 minutes relaxing massage. Damage is not bad! [/QUOTE]Hi Shaun,
Care to PM me the actual location? Sounds interesting and I will be in Shanghai on 19 Feb. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1122821]Metro Line 10 goes directly from the airport to Xintiandi station. Doesn't get any easier than that![/QUOTE]Cheers!
Any recommends for saunas around the xin tian di, or any other area for that matter for guaranteed no hassle post expo FS action?
[QUOTE=Ing Hayalet; 1122795]Dear broder,
Thank for quick replay. &304; Will stay ever bright hotel near neighbour exhibition Center. Please help me if they any suaunas bbs massage house or some special house or apartment near there please help me
Thank for all[/QUOTE]Near 62 Caobao Road (Everbright Hotel and Exhibition Center)
See Driver100's report and Osuul's report for good suggestions.
999 is: 999 Tianyaoqiao Road, subject of many reports below. 3 km northeast walking or driving.
Might also try: 545 Liuzhou road 1. 2 km north (reference is old, might not be there)
Wuzhong lu and Songyuan lu, prettty easy to find.
[QUOTE=Aries3288; 1123030]Hi Shaun,
Care to PM me the actual location? Sounds interesting and I will be in Shanghai on 19 Feb. Thanks! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aries3288; 1123030]Hi Shaun,
Care to PM me the actual location? Sounds interesting and I will be in Shanghai on 19 Feb. Thanks! [/QUOTE]Shaun,
Can you also PM me the location for I will be in Shanghai in March. Thanks
[QUOTE=Driver100;1122487]In EverBright Caobao just wait in your room in the evening and they call you if you want a massage.[/QUOTE]Stayed there 2 weeks 2 years ago. Never got a call. But some ladys were following me from the lobby to my room door.
[QUOTE=Money11; 1123275]Shaun,
Can you also PM me the location for I will be in Shanghai in March. Thanks[/QUOTE]If anyone gets the address wouldn't mind a PM myself about this place. Thanks
Sacrosa in pudong. Was there last week 550 finish before 7 for this price but recommend get there before 4 as they may not have enough rooms. Finishing After 7 is 676. No soapy but great service.
999 always a keeper for 800 and soapy. My friend is back from her village must see her ad ask how her baby water buffalo are doing.
[QUOTE=Pookgai; 1123143]Cheers!
Any recommends for saunas around the xin tian di, or any other area for that matter for guaranteed no hassle post expo FS action? [/QUOTE]
Visited one of the places that had been talked about, a lot on this board.
First visit January 6th. 2011.
Number of girls: 15+. I chose Number 882 from Nanjing. Oh man, what a cutie she is! The seesion was ok, nothing special about it. Except I had the first AR of my life. Again, nothing great about it, a lot of light poking. The sex. Well, was very mechanical mixed with a lot of fake moaning. I thought I'd at least get a couple of positions. Oh boy, how wrong I was. We started and finished in mish. Afterwards we talked a bit. Wait, she has a twin sister working at the same place? Maybe I'll give you another try on a later date with your sister in tow. Strike One!
Face: 8.
Body: 8.
Attitude: 7.
Sex: 6.
GFE: 5.
Damage: 800RMB.
Visit 2, January 7th. 2011.
Thought might as well give this place another shot. I got there late, after 10pm if I remember correctly.
Number of girls 20+. Chose 901 this time. Forgot where she's from. Below average session. We started with a soapy bath, except she washed me very clean, otherwise no effort was put into making me horny. BJ was quick and before I knew it was over, I was already on my fours getting another light poking AR. I thought to myself, is this what it suppose to feels like? I only came to my senses when she told to lay on my back and we fucked in cowgirl. Again, she only allowed one position. Chatted a bit after, before she sent me on my way. Strike Two!
Face: 7.
Body: 7.
Attitude: 6.
Sex: 5.
GFE: 3.
Damage: 800RMB.
Third visit, Febuary 4th. 2011 Chinese New Year Day.
Strike Three and yourrrrr OUT! Except in this case, strike three never came.
I arrived just after 2pm and the place was empty. According to one of the attendants, I was the only customer at the time. Guess everyone else was either too tired from their big New Year's eve family meal or out there visiting relatives and stuff. As for me, I had nothing better to do, except the 5000RMB I got was burning a hole in my pocket. I quickly changed, got upstairs to the fish bowl. To my surprise, there was roughly about 15+ girls working on CNY. Sweet deal. Chose a sweet looking thing from Nothern China. This one, I tell ya, is the reason I'll go back again and again. She was so happy to see me, maybe because I was her only customer of day, up til that point? Great GFE right off the bat. Lots of hugging. I like that. Soapy bath was ok, but I like this one. She's all smile and talkative. Did try to upsell me for a second girl for 500RMB extra, which I respectfully declined. What follows blew my mind. My little guy had never been this happy before. Awesome BBBJ, lots of ball licking, lots of kissing and etc. After some ten minutes of heaven, she told me to lay face down. I'm not a big fan of that hot water in mouth trick. What drove me crazy was her superb AR skills. She stuck her tongue deep into my ass and wiggles it. Then came the sex. She said she would only do mish today so I obliged. Lots of moaning, sure it's all fake, but she did try hard to put up a good show. After I came, she quickly cleaned up my little guy then lay besides me. We cuddle together when she said she wasn't at her top game today because she wasn't feeling well, but then promised the next time I see her, she will have more trick in store for me, as well as begging me not to pick a second girl. And not to mention I can cum twice. Great girl. We exchanged phone numbers and learned her real name before we parted.
Face: 9.
Body: 8.
Attitude: 10.
Sex: 8.
GFE: 9.
Damage: 800RMB.
Visit Four, January 5th. 2011.
I texted her at noon saying I would see her at 4pm. Came the reply saying she'd not participate in the fish bowl after 3pm, just for me.
Upon entering the building, I requested for her. So there was no waiting or go fishing. She was super happy to see me. Again, a lot of hugging. I'll only state what she did different here. During the soapy bath, she couldn't resist but gave me a nice BBBJ on the soap bed for a good ten minutes. We had sex in mish right after moving over to the regular bed. After I came, she put a wet wipe around my little guy. DFK, nipple licking, another amazing AR, followed by that hot water thingy, then on to some more awesome BBBJ. More sex, in cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, mish and doggy. Oh man, this girl is blowing me away. For some reason, I had trouble cumming for the second time so. She offered me a HJ, which I gladly accepted. There's no way I won't go back to her again. I'll definitely see you again in March.
Face: 9.
Body: 8.
Attitude: 10.
Sex: 10.
GFE: 10
Damage: 800RMB
[QUOTE=Dirknblane; 1123358]Sacrosa in pudong. Was there last week 550 finish before 7 for this price but recommend get there before 4 as they may not have enough rooms. Finishing After 7 is 676. No soapy but great service.
999 always a keeper for 800 and soapy. My friend is back from her village must see her ad ask how her baby water buffalo are doing.[/QUOTE]Nice one my son! Just the ticket! Will defo make a visit then.
Are there any this reliable places side of the river? Sauna or bbs?
Thank you Osuul, Driver 100 and Lost in Shanghai. I will try to visit 3 floor. What kind action wait me there?
The last 2 month 999 report not good. I think after the expo 999 loast their quality and finish the red rope have any body new experiment there.
One question to you Lost in Shanghai "545 Liuzhou road 1. 2 km north (reference is old, might not be there)" Is it Liuzhouchi sauna? What kind of action live there.
I also wait other brother advice.
Thank for all
Nice report with good details. I might suggest listing the place you ventured. Thanks for contributing.
MD40.
[QUOTE=Iahewr; 1123444]Visited one of the places that had been talked about, a lot on this board.
First visit January 6th. 2011.
Number of girls: 15+. I chose Number 882 from Nanjing. Oh man, what a cutie she is! The seesion was ok, nothing special about it. Except I had the first AR of my life. Again, nothing great about it, a lot of light poking. The sex. Well, was very mechanical mixed with a lot of fake moaning. I thought I'd at least get a couple of positions. Oh boy, how wrong I was. We started and finished in mish. Afterwards we talked a bit. Wait, she has a twin sister working at the same place? Maybe I'll give you another try on a later date with your sister in tow. Strike One! [/QUOTE]
Not sure which side you talking about. The river is like eminem's 8 mile. You cross either side and your in 2 different worlds.
Haven't trilled for bbs, I too need info on that. Pookgai are you canto? Cool name!
[QUOTE=Pookgai; 1123475]Nice one my son! Just the ticket! Will defo make a visit then.
Are there any this reliable places side of the river? Sauna or bbs?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Maddog40;1121323]Thanks Dirknblane for the report and support. It is nice to contribute and even better when it not only helps someone else but the also add to the mix with a report. I guess I should have pushed it more to get some more but now I know.[/QUOTE]Heh. Welllllll. I started off tonight trying to find the place MD suggested but the evening took a funky twist.
I started walking up Shaanxi Road north from Nanjing Road. And went to the 4th light, which is Wuding Road. On the North east corner was a yellow sign for Golden (something) Massage. Figuring this was the 'legit' massage place, I turned left and started looking for places. Prior to reaching that intersection, I didn't see any legit-looking massage places.
While walking down Wuding I saw two things that caught my eye. One was a small red / blue sign with Chinese characters, but I couldn't tell what they were saying. Attached to the sign was a folding metal gate which was left open. I could have walked in towards a security guard shack to investigate, but I wanted to keep going to see if something else more obvious lay ahead.
I kept going down and didn't see anything open that remotely looked like a foot massage place. Then, across the street I saw a massage place with girls franticaly waving their hands towards me. That. In and of itself. Should have been enough to get me to keep walking.
But I thought maybe this was the place. So I went in, and they said,"massage"? I said sure. They said 100rmb. I said fine. Went into the room with this decent looking chick. Got into my boxers and she started to give me a somewhat decent back rub when a second girl came in to try the 2 girl upsell. I said no, they insisted. I maintained no, and eventually she left. The chick I was with eventually took the top off, and she had a very nice rack. Possibly a C cup which impressed me. A little light kissing. She refused to DFK. And a little handling of Mr. Mike to get him nice and ready. But then she said she would only do an HJ and not BBBJ. Figuring I was jipped, I got dressed and started to leave when she demanded a tip. Seeing that she didn't do shit, I shelled out 15rmb and kept going out. She yelled for the mamasan to try and stop me. Which he did, but I pushed my way past him until I got to the door. He kept trying to grab me by my jacket and hold me in place, but once I had both my feet out the door, he knew it was too late, so he gave me a shove to get me out of the place, and probably said some shit I didn't understand.
I started walking down the road back to Shaanxi Road, found the first cab, and got the hell out of there. AFAIK there was no one following me, although I thought I saw someone in a big coat come out of the place shortly after I left.
Anyways. That's the report. I must have missed the place MD mentioned. If I don't post again in the next few days, chances are the triads got to me, dismembered me, and spread my body parts across Tibet.
[QUOTE=Drmsog; 1123615]Heh. Welllllll. I started off tonight trying to find the place MD suggested but the evening took a funky twist.
I started walking up Shaanxi Road north from Nanjing Road. And went to the 4th light, which is Wuding Road. On the North east corner was a yellow sign for Golden (something) Massage. Figuring this was the 'legit' massage place, I turned left and started looking for places. Prior to reaching that intersection, I didn't see any legit-looking massage places. [/QUOTE]Drmsog, sorry for your tough night. Let me try to give better directions. On Shaanxi Road. North from Nanjing Road. First block is the Golden Tulip then a side street next to the Golden Tulip parking lot, go north one more block and turn left. About 200 yards down that street on the left. Don't remember the name of the street but that should get you there.
MD40
[QUOTE=Drmsog; 1123615]Heh. Welllllll. I started off tonight trying to find the place MD suggested but the evening took a funky twist.
I kept going down and didn't see anything open that remotely looked like a foot massage place. Then, across the street I saw a massage place with girls franticaly waving their hands towards me. That. In and of itself. Should have been enough to get me to keep walking.
But I thought maybe this was the place. So I went in, and they said,"massage"? I said sure. They said 100rmb. I said fine. Went into the room with this decent looking chick. Got into my boxers and she started to give me a somewhat decent back rub when a second girl came in to try the 2 girl upsell. I said no, they insisted. I maintained no, and eventually she left. The chick I was with eventually took the top off, and she had a very nice rack. Possibly a C cup which impressed me. A little light kissing. She refused to DFK. And a little handling of Mr. Mike to get him nice and ready. But then she said she would only do an HJ and not BBBJ. Figuring I was jipped, I got dressed and started to leave when she demanded a tip. Seeing that she didn't do shit, I shelled out 15rmb and kept going out. She yelled for the mamasan to try and stop me. Which he did, but I pushed my way past him until I got to the door. He kept trying to grab me by my jacket and hold me in place, but once I had both my feet out the door, he knew it was too late, so he gave me a shove to get me out of the place, and probably said some shit I didn't understand.
[/QUOTE]Drmsog: thanks for your report.
Could you clarify a few things please: what was the service on offer, for what cost?
How much of this quoted service did you receive, and how much did you pay?
TIA.
P13
[QUOTE=Dirknblane; 1123573]Not sure which side you talking about. The river is like eminem's 8 mile. You cross either side and your in 2 different worlds.
Haven't trilled for bbs, I too need info on that. Pookgai are you canto? Cool name! [/QUOTE]I'm staying on the puxi side. I'm in two minds about 999 as recent reports have been poor. I'm planning on going to the pudong side later today for sacrosa and bodi. But as 999 is on my side its tempting!
Yeah am canto. But my Chinese isn't great.
Unrelated question; is the best place to pick up fake stuff by the shanghai sceience and tech museum? This is what I've read.
[QUOTE=Maddog40;1123708]Drmsog, sorry for your tough night. Let me try to give better directions. On Shaanxi Road. North from Nanjing Road. First block is the Golden Tulip then a side street next to the Golden Tulip parking lot, go north one more block and turn left. About 200 yards down that street on the left. Don't remember the name of the street but that should get you there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification MD. I looked on google maps, and searched for Golden Tulip. The very next street north of it is Nanyang Road, which is the same road that Manhattan / Big Bamboo is on. The next road north is Beijing Road which is a pretty major street.
I'll venture out that way this week and see if I have better luck. Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Maddog40; 1123570]Nice report with good details. I might suggest listing the place you ventured. Thanks for contributing.
MD40[/QUOTE]Oh yes. How could I forget? It's Hailang.
I won't know my next month's flight schedule until the 22nd of this month. Then I'll plan my March visit to Shanghai.
The place maddog is talking about is on Beijing Lu, half-way between Shaanxi Lu and Xikang Lu. I had many (50+) foot massages there, but I am not a fan of HJs so I don't take the body massage very often, probably around 10 times. The HE is included in the price of the body massage. I did get FS two times with girls that are no longer there for 300 tip but I had been a regular there for a long time. The other girls refused FS.
I like this place for foot massages because you can order a cold beer from the attached restaurant. also in the summer the girls wear a cute uniform. loose fitting top and shorts/skirt combo.
[QUOTE=Pookgai;1123713]Unrelated question; is the best place to pick up fake stuff by the shanghai sceience and tech museum? This is what I've read.[/QUOTE]I always get better deals on watches, clothes, bags, etc at Qipu Lu market. It is not far from Yu Yuan Gardens, and seems less foreigners go there so there's more bargaining room.
[quote=makeupaname; 1123791]the place maddog is talking about is on beijing lu, half-way between shaanxi lu and xikang lu. i had many (50+) foot massages there, but i am not a fan of hjs so i don't take the body massage very often, probably around 10 times. the he is included in the price of the body massage. i did get fs two times with girls that are no longer there for 300 tip but i had been a regular there for a long time. the other girls refused fs.
i like this place for foot massages because you can order a cold beer from the attached restaurant. also in the summer the girls wear a cute uniform. loose fitting top and shorts / skirt combo.[/quote]i think i found it tonight while walking on beijing lu. i think the address is 1215. or it's very close to there. yellow sign. it had the prices for everything in red letters on a glass window.
before going in i took a peek inside and only saw 3 or 4 really old ladies in their 40s or 50s. no eye candy at all, so i hesitated and decided to keep on going. got approached by a ton of touts including a couple of decent looking girls. i tried to negotiate for them but they weren't game for it.
Finally checked Heting off my list. Easy to find as long as you don't trust the damn exit signs out of the metro that tell you you'll exit onto Siping Lu when you actually come out on Dalian. Once I figured that out and back tracked. 5 minute walk from the metro right to the spot. Two guys standing outside that saw me coming a mile away, one walked toward the automatic sliding glass door and took me straight to the elevator.
Up the elevator, into the lobby, immediately taken into a changing room where you put on a robe, put your stuff in a locker, and sit in a big fluffy chair and wait. Someone than brings you into the shower area where you clean up, towel off, put your robe back on, then back to the same waiting area (just one other guy there when I was there). Another 15 minutes and they pull you through a different door into the labyrinth, one or two handoffs, and then a guy with the magic card lets you through the hidden door. This puts you in the lineup room.
There were only 7 there tonight (9:00 PM) , and to be honest there were some butt ugly ones, but two real cuties that were making good eye contact. I picked 121, tiny little thing with an amazing rack. I don't speak a word so no idea where she is from or anything.
Takes me to a room, up on the bed, we both lose the clothes, and she goes in with a nice routine like this:
Uses some ice to get her nipples hard (nice touch) and then gives me a full body rub with her breasts (even stuck her nipples in my ears, WTF?). Then starts the hot water sucking bath thing on my back, then my arms and fingers, then my legs and feet. Then she does some special attention on the feet including sucking my toes. Then has me on all fours to give me the old rusty trombone. Has me flip over and does the same on the front, lots of DFK here, does the toe fucking thing (again, weird) and then starts with the BBBJ. Not the most talented girl ever, but she put in some effort. Then she had me stand up next to the bed and put my leg up like Captain Morgan and rubbed her pussy on my leg (one more time, WTF?) A little more BBBJ on her knees, then puts me on the bed and puts the condom on, into missonary again lots of DFK, and we're done. She spooned up next to me and played with my junk for a while, but I am still lagging a little and just decided to curl up and fall asleep fondling her ass. She fell asleep as well and gave a few little twitches, which was cute. Phone rang sometime later, she picked up and out we went.
Rate was 798 on the bill, but only 698 if I didn't take the receipt, which was weird because it wasn't a fapiao. So 698, total time about 70 minutes, place was fairly busy. I recommend the girl though, really cute, smoking body, lots of effort, eye contact, all the good stuff.
Behind the Eton Hotel, on the cnr of Dong Fang Lu and Pudong Avenue, is Changyi Lu.
On Changyi Lu there are at least four Massage Palours offering Oil massages with Happy Endings.
Being the Mongerer that I am, I went for the least reputable one. Upon entering I was immeadiately whisked up stairs and offered FS for 880 (the massage got forgotten). I said no and the price dropped to 400RMb straight away.
So for 400 RMB, I got a nice oil massage, very servicable BBBJ and multiple position FS with one pop. All very good value I thought.
The place is next to the "Happy Beaver Bar" (real name!) which apparantly offers Pole dancing later in the night (have to check that one out later) , Black Signage that just says Massage.
The girl (sorry no name, not really that interested to find out to be honest) , was a 7, nice rack with the smallest nipples, but very responsive none the less.
Hi guys,
Great reports in here. I'm new in this forum and to the game. I'll be staying next week in Crowne plaza 400 PAN YU ROAD, is there anything nearby?
Thanks for the advice in advance.
Hex
Went to Hailang around 8:30 PM this Friday; only about 8 girls in the line-up, the attendant told me it was because most girls were working already, this being a busy time, right after dinner. Probably the worst time to go then, I usually go before 7 or after 10 PM, and the line-up is bigger (15-20 girls).
Out of the 8 girls. 7 were (for me) not doable, luckily there was one cutie, which I quickly took.
Had fun with the girl; I have my routine now, as I don't like the catbath or any of their scripted stuff, I just have a long BBBJ and then play hide the sausage for a while.
When I left I was in the lift with 2 Chinese guys and their 2 girls; I thought the girls looked horrible, but obviously they were chosen for the size of their tits. To each his own!
Damage is now 800 RMB, no matter whether you arrive before 8 or not. The early bird discount is gone.
Two questions for the forum regarding high end KTV's:
1. Are the girls back from Chinese New Year holiday and are the high end KTV's open yet (or next week)?
2. Who has some real contacts to direct manager / VIP hosts of the high end KTV's? I'm not talking about middlemen liaisons, actual people who work every night at these venues.
PM me. I'll be in town next week and will be going to these places. Would be nice to share experiences and stories.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Hexagon; 1124589]Hi guys,
Great reports in here. I'm new in this forum and to the game. I'll be staying next week in Crowne plaza 400 PAN YU ROAD, is there anything nearby?
Thanks for the advice in advance.
Hex[/QUOTE]Type "hailang xiuxian chamber shanghai" into Google Maps.
No one had reported on this place in detail, so I thought I'the check it out. Very easy to get to from Lian Hua Station on Line 1. Go in, up the stairs, you will be whisked into the locker room. Story is much like the other saunas. Put your stuff in a locker. There is a zip lock in the locker if you want to bring your mobile with you. Undress at the locker, then you are given a wrist band key with your number. This becomes your I'd throughout the experience. Walk naked to the showers, and clean up. You can sit in the hot tub if you want; not for me. Then go to the towel guy and dry off. He gives you a robe and shorts. Then, they whisk you out into the hallway with well dressed young women, calling out your number as you go.
The women guide you to a waiting room; there is a TV, and they bring you fruit if you want. Eventually, they come back and get you and take you to the fishbowl. At 4:30 on Saturday, there were at least 15 choices. It had been alleged there were many better endowed girls here; as a boob guy, I had to check. Two or 3 had pretty nice boobs, but most were typically skinny and flat.
Interesting thing here; when I said the girl's numbers, the supervisor had a hard time understanding me. My Chinese is bad, but not horrible. I was trying to get number 11. I was saying the Chinese equivalent of eleven (shi yi) , and he never got it. I finally picked someone else. I chose number 95. Later I figured out, they seem to go by the individual digits, like phone numbers, I. E, eleven should have been said (you you) ; ninty-five was jiu wu, not jiu-shi-wu. After I picked one girl from the lineup, the guy offered me a second, but I politely declined. Don't know the price for that, but I couldn't afford it.
95 was a good choice; very pretty, full soft boobs for a Chinese girl. Friendly, warm, funny. The routine was as described at Hailang; Shower, followed by soapy body massage. This was my first time for that, and really nice. Then dry off, cat bath, BBBJ, put on the raincoat, two positions, clean up. Then we chatted in my very limited mandarin, cleaned up some more, and I returned to the locker to get my junk. You pay as you depart; total damage 800 on a Saturday afternoon.
Directions: Line 1 Lian Hua Station. Exit 1 or 2, and cross Humin Road on the elevated walkway. This puts you in front of Friendship Shopping Center. While facing the shopping center, turn left and go just past the Pizza Hut. Turn right down the alley; the place is directly in front of you across the first lane. For more details and a picture, type Nanfang Sangna Chamber, Shanghai into Google maps.
Hey guys.
Recently found the site. Been reading through all the great threads.
Just wondering if anyone has both shangahi and ningbo experience?
I have 5 nights to spend in both cities combined. Meetings with manufacturers by day (5-6 hrs / day) and all evenings free for fun. Looking for freelance action in bars / pubs and the occassional massage with happy ending.
Should I do 3 nights shanghai and 2 nights ningbo or the other way around?
I fly into shanghai on Thursday 6. 15pm so I must start here but I'm trying to decide on whether I do 3 nights here and then move on to ningbo or do just 2 nights?
Thanks in advance guys.
I can't wait for this trip.
From my experience, maximize your time in Shanghai not Ningbo. With such s short window it affords you the most opportunity for Sauna, massage and bar pickups.
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1125027]My Chinese is bad, but not horrible. I was trying to get number 11.[/QUOTE]Indeed, in massage parlour terms, number 11 is addressed as yaoyao. 25 as erwu, and 30 as sanling!
Fz
[QUOTE=Gold2010; 1125133]Hey guys.
Recently found the site. Been reading through all the great threads.
Just wondering if anyone has both shangahi and ningbo experience?
I have 5 nights to spend in both cities combined. Meetings with manufacturers by day (5-6 hrs / day) and all evenings free for fun. Looking for freelance action in bars / pubs and the occassional massage with happy ending.
Should I do 3 nights shanghai and 2 nights ningbo or the other way around?
I fly into shanghai on Thursday 6. 15pm so I must start here but I'm trying to decide on whether I do 3 nights here and then move on to ningbo or do just 2 nights?
Thanks in advance guys.
I can't wait for this trip. [/QUOTE]Stay in SH-make reservation at Sheraton or Portman plaza in Ningbo-ask about bus service to Ningbo when making reservation. Free luxury bus service (3 hour trip) offerred by these hotels. From Nanyan hotel in SH (behind hotel is thier office). At Portman Plaza 3rd floor full service 768 rmb (both hotels at same corner) Portman less money, sheraton nicer though. Enjoy watch out for ads in SH for massage service, can be rip off-if you don't like girl pay for taxi usually 100 rmb (14 US$) in box me and I will give U a few numbers and choices-been doing this for ten years
[QUOTE=Gold2010; 1125133]Hey guys.
Recently found the site. Been reading through all the great threads.
Just wondering if anyone has both shangahi and ningbo experience?
I have 5 nights to spend in both cities combined. Meetings with manufacturers by day (5-6 hrs / day) and all evenings free for fun. Looking for freelance action in bars / pubs and the occassional massage with happy ending.
Should I do 3 nights shanghai and 2 nights ningbo or the other way around?
I fly into shanghai on Thursday 6. 15pm so I must start here but I'm trying to decide on whether I do 3 nights here and then move on to ningbo or do just 2 nights?
Thanks in advance guys.
I can't wait for this trip. [/QUOTE]To gold
I was in Ningbo and Shanghai 2 month ago not much going on there, they are both large city because of crack down not as good as 5 yr ago, you can take the bus at Shanghai south train station every 40 min 2 hr bus to ningbo cross the new hangzhou bay bridge and do some RTFF from the Ningbo forum for more info.
Fast Eddie 48
[quote=drmsog; 1123929]i think i found it tonight while walking on beijing lu. i think the address is 1215. or it's very close to there. yellow sign. it had the prices for everything in red letters on a glass window.
before going in i took a peek inside and only saw 3 or 4 really old ladies in their 40s or 50s. no eye candy at all, so i hesitated and decided to keep on going. got approached by a ton of touts including a couple of decent looking girls. i tried to negotiate for them but they weren't game for it. [/quote]with all the directions provided, finding this place was quite easy. went in at 4 pm today and a sweet lady from sichuan attended to me. oil massage at rmb168 was very good and it includes a he which was done at a slow leisurely speed for about 15 minutes. tried to get her to remove her top but she did not want to so i did not insist as she is nice and i respected her decision. paid her rmb200 and told her to keep the change and she was happy.
foot massage can also be done in the privacy of the oil massage room and cost rmb68 instead of rmb48 in the main hall. should be worth it as there is more privacy and more scope of additional service if the lady is game for it.
will probably try the foot massage in private room tomorrow.
thanks to everyone for providing the direction and especially to md who started this.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1118311].............But I think Starbucks ................[/QUOTE]Quick question. Is this the Starbucks near the Casa Serena (formerly the Lapis Casa) hotel?
Thanks
Any idea where to pickup freelance girls in Shanghai?
I mean not in bars like Manhattan.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1125952]Any idea where to pickup freelance girls in Shanghai?
I mean not in bars like Manhattan. [/QUOTE]Xintiandi, particularly Brown Sugar and the Paulaner, also the Starbucks, strangely.
[QUOTE=Gold2010; 1125133]Hey guys.
Recently found the site. Been reading through all the great threads.
Just wondering if anyone has both shangahi and ningbo experience?
I have 5 nights to spend in both cities combined. Meetings with manufacturers by day (5-6 hrs / day) and all evenings free for fun. Looking for freelance action in bars / pubs and the occassional massage with happy ending.
Should I do 3 nights shanghai and 2 nights ningbo or the other way around?
I fly into shanghai on Thursday 6. 15pm so I must start here but I'm trying to decide on whether I do 3 nights here and then move on to ningbo or do just 2 nights?
Thanks in advance guys.
I can't wait for this trip. [/QUOTE]I'd definately would opt for 3 nights Shanghai and 2 nights Ningbo. As you would see in the Ningbo section, the thread is almost dead. There are a few places in hotels you can visit but all the red ropes are gone there: closed. Checked it our myself last time.
Shanghai has more to offer and more pretty girls as well.
Just my 2 cents
So today I went to Bodi for the first time. Hell it was the first time for me mongering in Shanghai. But it started very well with Bodi though. I arrived there at 17:50.
It's easy to find as described. Once arriving in front of the complex (with your face staring at the front door) go to the left until you see the door and walk in. Walk in, people will greet you, asking whether it's the first time. If yes they will instruct the others to take good care of you.
Procedure is standard: taking off clothes (cell phone and other belongings can be put in zip locks) , walking to the shower all naked, showering, taking hot bath, drying and then to the VIP room waiting until they take you to the fishbowl.
Once taken to the fishbowl all girls came out walking from 1 door. In total around 25 gals. I had to stand back to watch them all better because the line was so huge. A few hotties in between and a few notties as well. I had good eye contact with no 529 (somehow she was always looking at me when I looked at her). When choosing her the manager asked me whether I wanted a 2nd one. I said no for now.
529 is from Dongbei. 25 yrs. She looks angry at first but she isn't actually. Soft breasts, probably small B. Has tattoos on both of her breasts: rose and also a tattoo on top of her p*why. When I saw her it reminded me that one of the ISG brothers has chosen her once.
Anyways, Once she came out the door she asked me whether I wanted a threesome with her friend a Korean girl. I declined, bc I wanted to get to know the services first. If you want to go for it they are having a 40% discount now. 2nd person for 500 RMB instead of 800 RMB. So I had a nuru nuru (my first time, very much fun) , cat bath (assuming that this is the water thing where she kisses you and licks you with her tongue all over you body, including sucking fingers and ears. She was pretty good with the ears though. Rrr.) , AR (also first time, I thought she was pouring water in my ass for later purpose, I asked her why she poured all that water in my asshole and whether I would shit it all out again) , BBBJ (very good! When she did it I almost came, had to hold her back. So she started to teaball me: great feeling) and then FS. During the cat bath and after the FS we could hear other girls moaning while taken by others, haha funny though! Afterwards shower, get dressed and pay up the damage 800 RMB.
Overall 529:
Looks: 7.
Body: 7 (bit soggy around the waist)
Performance: 7.
Will choose her again: Yes and then probably with her friend the Korean (I always wanted to get together with a Korean girl)
Hex out
Went to ChengJiaQiao for a quickie after dinner with friends the other night. Lots of men walking in groups around the area and discussing the girls like puppies in a pet store. But I noticed it was all talk and no one was going in, interesting.
I just picking my target and walked inside. The back rooms were nice and warm and we had quick, noisy sex. Nothing outstanding or noteworthy but I did find out they have a 30 min limit (good to know if you are slighty drunk and need a little more time to finish). They also have take out for 500 RMB that gives you 3 hours. They have overnight but my girl was not sure about prices, I would imagine them being about 1K.
The crowd outside was all locals and Asians (I think I heard Japanese and Korean being spoken) , but it kinda reminds me of a poor mans Amersterdam Red Light District and might draw unwanted attention from LE soon.
It sounds like you had a good time. I'm a rookie too in Chiuna / Shanghai. I've been to China several times but haven't been able to monger.
I will try the Bodi Boutique Hotel. I am also thinking about staying there. It seems to be pretty nice based on tripadvisor. Com.
Do others agree?
[QUOTE=Nonlinear; 1126655]It sounds like you had a good time. I'm a rookie too in Chiuna / Shanghai. I've been to China several times but haven't been able to monger.
I will try the Bodi Boutique Hotel. I am also thinking about staying there. It seems to be pretty nice based on tripadvisor. Com.
Do others agree? [/QUOTE]Pretty good time over there for sure.
Bodi boutique is quite expensive for a Chinese hotel. For that price you could get international good ones. Maybe it's my personal thing but I don't like retro style furnishing, but that's just me.
[QUOTE=Nonlinear; 1126655]It sounds like you had a good time. I'm a rookie too in Chiuna / Shanghai. I've been to China several times but haven't been able to monger.
I will try the Bodi Boutique Hotel. I am also thinking about staying there. It seems to be pretty nice based on tripadvisor. Com.
Do others agree? [/QUOTE]I wouldn't stay there if I were you. The location sucks and you need to walk for 20 mins or take a cab to the subway. And it is not the easiest place to grab a taxi, even if you don't mind paying for one. I think the hotel is more of a love hotel sort of deal. Stay in downtown or at least somewhere within easy walking distance of the metro.
[QUOTE=Hexagon; 1126122]So today I went to Bodi for the first time. Hell it was the first time for me mongering in Shanghai. But it started very well with Bodi though. I arrived there at 17:50.
It's easy to find as described. Once arriving in front of the complex (with your face staring at the front door) go to the left until you see the door and walk in. Walk in, people will greet you, asking whether it's the first time. If yes they will instruct the others to take good care of you.
Procedure is standard: taking off clothes (cell phone and other belongings can be put in zip locks) , walking to the shower all naked, showering, taking hot bath, drying and then to the VIP room waiting until they take you to the fishbowl.
Once taken to the fishbowl all girls came out walking from 1 door. In total around 25 gals. I had to stand back to watch them all better because the line was so huge. A few hotties in between and a few notties as well. I had good eye contact with no 529 (somehow she was always looking at me when I looked at her). When choosing her the manager asked me whether I wanted a 2nd one. I said no for now.
529 is from Dongbei. 25 yrs. She looks angry at first but she isn't actually. Soft breasts, probably small B. Has tattoos on both of her breasts: rose and also a tattoo on top of her p*why. When I saw her it reminded me that one of the ISG brothers has chosen her once.
Anyways, Once she came out the door she asked me whether I wanted a threesome with her friend a Korean girl. I declined, bc I wanted to get to know the services first. If you want to go for it they are having a 40% discount now. 2nd person for 500 RMB instead of 800 RMB. So I had a nuru nuru (my first time, very much fun) , cat bath (assuming that this is the water thing where she kisses you and licks you with her tongue all over you body, including sucking fingers and ears. She was pretty good with the ears though. Rrr.) , AR (also first time, I thought she was pouring water in my ass for later purpose, I asked her why she poured all that water in my asshole and whether I would shit it all out again) , BBBJ (very good! When she did it I almost came, had to hold her back. So she started to teaball me: great feeling) and then FS. During the cat bath and after the FS we could hear other girls moaning while taken by others, haha funny though! Afterwards shower, get dressed and pay up the damage 800 RMB.
Overall 529:
Looks: 7.
Body: 7 (bit soggy around the waist)
Performance: 7.
Will choose her again: Yes and then probably with her friend the Korean (I always wanted to get together with a Korean girl)
Hex out[/QUOTE]Great report! Glad to hear you are having a good time. Interesting that they are trying to push the threesome thing. When I was there before CNY, it wasn't on the menu. Perhaps they are trying to take the golden 18 way and always push for a second one. I hope they'll offer the two girls showing you routine next.
Just out of curiosity, did you have just one or more pops?
[QUOTE=Mike666; 1126773]Great report! Glad to hear you are having a good time. Interesting that they are trying to push the threesome thing. When I was there before CNY, it wasn't on the menu. Perhaps they are trying to take the golden 18 way and always push for a second one. I hope they'll offer the two girls showing you routine next.
Just out of curiosity, did you have just one or more pops? [/QUOTE]Well since I was a noob there I flat out asked the girl how many pops I could have. She said only one of course.
The threesome thing is on a discount now, that's why they're pushing it. Maybe because there are too many girls and too less guys to serve OR to keep the girls fresh. After all I'm guessing 2 girls equals 1 pop as well for less work and easy dough. Wish I had more stamina back there <sigh
Interesting find. Can you provide more detailed location info? Cross street? Nearby business?
Xiexie ni.
[QUOTE=Ragnarok42; 1126621]Went to ChengJiaQiao for a quickie after dinner with friends the other night. Lots of men walking in groups around the area and discussing the girls like puppies in a pet store. But I noticed it was all talk and no one was going in, interesting.
I just picking my target and walked inside. The back rooms were nice and warm and we had quick, noisy sex. Nothing outstanding or noteworthy but I did find out they have a 30 min limit (good to know if you are slighty drunk and need a little more time to finish). They also have take out for 500 RMB that gives you 3 hours. They have overnight but my girl was not sure about prices, I would imagine them being about 1K.
The crowd outside was all locals and Asians (I think I heard Japanese and Korean being spoken) , but it kinda reminds me of a poor mans Amersterdam Red Light District and might draw unwanted attention from LE soon. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hexagon; 1126797]Well since I was a noob there I flat out asked the girl how many pops I could have. She said only one of course.
The threesome thing is on a discount now, that's why they're pushing it. Maybe because there are too many girls and too less guys to serve OR to keep the girls fresh. After all I'm guessing 2 girls equals 1 pop as well for less work and easy dough. Wish I had more stamina back there <sigh[/QUOTE]When you get down to it, it is really not worth it. It is more than likely the girls just sort of sit there, no double play, no grabbing each other, or even you. You end up just screwing one girl at a time. You'll need to invest some serious money to find girls that click with you and to see if they have a friend. Too much troubles.
[QUOTE=Mike666;1126962]When you get down to it, it is really not worth it. It is more than likely the girls just sort of sit there, no double play, no grabbing each other, or even you. You end up just screwing one girl at a time. You'll need to invest some serious money to find girls that click with you and to see if they have a friend. Too much troubles.[/QUOTE]It's going to be for next time I'm afraid. Heading to CP today to get my noon xp there
Not noon but noob xp
[QUOTE=Mike666;1126962]When you get down to it, it is really not worth it. It is more than likely the girls just sort of sit there, no double play, no grabbing each other, or even you. You end up just screwing one girl at a time. You'll need to invest some serious money to find girls that click with you and to see if they have a friend. Too much troubles.[/QUOTE]That wasn't the experience I had at Bodi. I had a lot of good times there.
My girls usually had no problems grabbing each other or fooling around with me while the other works my dick.
The only thing that is strictly enforced is they have change the condom each time a girl mounts you.
Multiple pops? Not a problem, but my body usually wasn't up for the challenge.
But it really depends on the girls, some of them just don't work with each other.
I think the key is to become a repeat customer of one of the girls you enjoy, then the girl would tell you who is her friend the next time you pick her.
Of course this is based on old experience from Spring and Summer of last year, so management policies and the girls could have changed a lot. I don't think any of the girls I know still work there.
[QUOTE=Mike666;1126771]I wouldn't stay there if I were you. The location sucks and you need to walk for 20 mins or take a cab to the subway. And it is not the easiest place to grab a taxi, even if you don't mind paying for one. I think the hotel is more of a love hotel sort of deal. Stay in downtown or at least somewhere within easy walking distance of the metro.[/QUOTE]I agree. Stay at the Sofitel that is not too far away and it's only a five minute walk to the 4 and 6 lines. And not to mention taxis are always available outside the hotel.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1127043]That wasn't the experience I had at Bodi. I had a lot of good times there.
My girls usually had no problems grabbing each other or fooling around with me while the other works my dick.
The only thing that is strictly enforced is they have change the condom each time a girl mounts you.
Multiple pops? Not a problem, but my body usually wasn't up for the challenge.
But it really depends on the girls, some of them just don't work with each other.
I think the key is to become a repeat customer of one of the girls you enjoy, then the girl would tell you who is her friend the next time you pick her.
Of course this is based on old experience from Spring and Summer of last year, so management policies and the girls could have changed a lot. I don't think any of the girls I know still work there. [/QUOTE]Nice! Just out of curiosity, how often do you have a 3P and how often does it turn into a porn star exp (versus just doing one girl while the other one just mills around). Any recommendations? I haven't been there for a while.
[QUOTE=Mike666;1127156]Nice! Just out of curiosity, how often do you have a 3P and how often does it turn into a porn star exp (versus just doing one girl while the other one just mills around). Any recommendations? I haven't been there for a while.[/QUOTE]I've been there quite frequently, and I order 3P almost everytime.
I think there was only once or twice I got disappointed because the girls didn't get along.
[url]http://www.aish001.com/?fromuser=ryanrei[/url]
Any one tried this site? I checked inside and find some really beauties.
But unfortunately, it is only in Chinese language.
[QUOTE=Doitunderwater; 1126866]Interesting find. Can you provide more detailed location info? Cross street? Nearby business?
Xiexie ni. [/QUOTE]Area is a dump, like an industial waste site. Cross roads are Chengjiaqiao (&31243; &23478; &27211; &65289; and Huijing&65288; &21295; &37329; &65289; , but not sure if there are the right characters since the driver only told me roads. Its near the elevated road leading to Hongqiao airport. You need to be a little thick skinned to go there, place is like in the slums with nothing around and all locals. I am an ABC and already stood out, any white guy would set off alarms (or at the least LOTS of unwanted attention). You can probably find it on google map, but I would recommend taking her home so you can enjoy her in a nice, clean hotel room.
[QUOTE=Ragnarok42;1127417]Area is a dump, like an industial waste site. Cross roads are Chengjiaqiao (&31243; &23478; &27211; &65289; and Huijing&65288; &21295; &37329; &65289; , but not sure if there are the right characters since the driver only told me roads. Its near the elevated road leading to Hongqiao airport. You need to be a little thick skinned to go there, place is like in the slums with nothing around and all locals. I am an ABC and already stood out, any white guy would set off alarms (or at the least LOTS of unwanted attention). You can probably find it on google map, but I would recommend taking her home so you can enjoy her in a nice, clean hotel room.[/QUOTE]Had to go pick up some sports equipment at Decathalon and pow what do you know I was only 3 clicks from this place. Actually there are 2 places where our Friends are at. Opposite sides of the street."Got lucky" with a cute funan who said she just arrived today. Many thanks for the info and to give one back: wuzhong Lu / songyuan Lu.
You can't miss it with a big sign:
Take the 2nd prime number, multiply it by 2 to get your second address number and then multiply the 2nd prime number by 3 for your 3rd number of the address. That's the place 100 to start then add a second mei nu for 100 more then you negotiate your pleasure.
There is another place two doors down from there but haven't checked it out.
Cheers
I was last In Shanghai three years ago, so I read the reviews and directions to each place. I just wanted to check on the latest status
Bodi: open and seems like the largest.
999: open but not as good as it was 2-3 years ago.
Heting: not sure if it's open.
Riverview: is it open and worth it?
Southern: is it open and worth it?
Sacrosa: open but dies not seem worth it?
Merrylin: is it still open?
When staying in Puxi what is the best option?
I will be there next week and any insights are greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Are there any working girls at Malones in Pudong? Or any of the bars at Thumb Plaza?
I've heard the Coconut bar also has a band.
Went to Sacrosa last night around 1:30am (I think that's about the latest you can show up there?). Picked 222.
I don't remember her name, but she said she was 20 years old. She looked it, too. She was a very little thing, and pretty. I'd give her looks a 7 or 8.
She really was not happy at being picked. But. I have to say she really gave it some effort once in the room. Her BBBJ was enthusiastic, continuous and lengthy. She just kept going and going. Her lips never once leaving my cock. Good tasting Y. Sex was ok. Lot of complaining about my size, etc. Still. She took it like a trooper. Gave a massage afterwards. I can't say I'd repeat, but at 676rmb was a decent deal.
A few weeks ago I had #281. I had read a report that this one would let you fuck her mouth pretty good and ultimatley blow a load on her face. It was all true. She wasn't in the line up when I was there last night though.
[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1127768]Are there any working girls at Malones in Pudong? Or any of the bars at Thumb Plaza?
I've heard the Coconut bar also has a band.[/QUOTE]I've found it to be hit or miss, and generally more miss. I went there with a PI girl a few times because she wanted to see the band and she would bring a friend or 2 who would look for a customer. I sometimes wen there for dinner with hopes of finding something w / o having to make a hike over to Puxi but never found anything.
I've noticed there are some new bars over in Jin Qiao near Decathlon, and Big Bamboo has moved and expanded. Anyone know if there are ever any FLs there?
[QUOTE=NCyellow; 1127354][url]http://www.aish001.com/?fromuser=ryanrei[/url]
Any one tried this site? I checked inside and find some really beauties.
But unfortunately, it is only in Chinese language. [/QUOTE]Took a quick look. Haven't tried it yet but it looks like 161 in HK. Free lance girls doing the biz in their apartment. Unlike HK, I am sure it is illegal in mainland. Maybe worth a try but I've heard girls use a lot of fake photos. Cheers
After 2 weeks of travel and returning today on a red eye I was looking forward to a good massage and had Bodi in mind.
Went over at 9pm and it was very quiet. Only had to spend 2 mins in the waiting room then off to the fish bowl. About 10-12 girls in the line-up. I chose 589 and when we got to the room I let her up sell me to 2 girls and she called in 573. 589 is an average looking girl, not great, but not bad. 573 was on the tall side with a thin, but strong body; died brown haiir and tan skin. She was a very active and loud and bi as she went after 589 and me aggressively.
We had some fun on the shower table and I came once with 589 on top after cat bath and BBBJ and 573 putting on a show. Then into the bedroom and 573 said it was her turn to be fcuked. But before she mimed fcuking me while her friend videoed with her hand phone. They really got a kick out of that. Then I gave her a ride with multiple positions, finishing in missionary.
Not a GFE but more like a trip to the double header place in BKK run by the french guy marc, I think on soi 9, the name of the place is eluding me now as it's been a while since I was there.
Overall a good time but next time I will stick with one girl. Total cost, as expected. 1300cny.
If you search for forum about "apartment girls," we have posted quite a few reviews on finding those on QQ and other Chinese forums / chatroom. I haven't done that lately. There are a lot of fake photos but also some hidden gems. This looks promising as the pictures don't look unrealistically fake. I may take one for the team and post report next week. .
[QUOTE=NCyellow; 1127354][url]http://www.aish001.com/?fromuser=ryanrei[/url]
Any one tried this site? I checked inside and find some really beauties.
But unfortunately, it is only in Chinese language. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jman90024;1127974]If you search for forum about "apartment girls," we have posted quite a few reviews on finding those on QQ and other Chinese forums / chatroom. I haven't done that lately. There are a lot of fake photos but also some hidden gems. This looks promising as the pictures don't look unrealistically fake. I may take one for the team and post report next week. .[/QUOTE]Jman, not sure if you mean to search ISG under Forum for "apartment girls", but I am not able to find anything. Suggestions?
[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1127768]Are there any working girls at Malones in Pudong? Or any of the bars at Thumb Plaza?
I've heard the Coconut bar also has a band. [/QUOTE]I have been to Malones numerous times. Atmosphere is good and food is decent. Normally there are a few working girls hanging out at the bar but quantity is few and quality never seemed to be great. Like anywhere there is always a chance of picking up a gem in there every once in awhile. Personally I think there are better places.
I was tempted by the recent talk of this place. It does indeed seem like it would get targeted by LE soon because it just seems so out of control over there. If you pop "Chengjiaqiao" into google maps with no street number, the default spot on the street it zooms to is actually the right spot.
LongXi Road stop on line 10 will get you to within a 5-10 minute walk of the place.
The exact location is basically where Chengjiaqiao Road intersects with JinHui Road. Then down (south) both streets for about 2 blocks is just place after place. Incredibly obvious and back to back next to each other.
I went there yesterday. Tried one, then another. As usual the younger the girl, the more troublesome, but it's cheap so I can't really complain too much. The girls ranged from 1s to. Surprisingly. 9s. When you've found the place. Don't just go into the first one. Peak into at least 3 or 4 of them to get a lay of the land.
Also. I'm white, but never felt any danger or got any negative attention. Take-out would be cool, but I don't speak Chinese. Price was 200-300 depending. I didn't bother trying to haggle.
Used to live here, but havnt been back for a few years. Place has changed a lot. Anyways to ease myself into things, had a visit to Peacock / Rainbow massge which is noted here a lot. I had been there when I lvied here and was as good as I remembered it. Girl did the massage just fine, she got a good fingering and we ended up lying down hugging with her trying to stir my brother into life even after hed just shot. Was nice.
Later that day went to Jinglin, also mentioned here. Girl wasnt as cute but yes I came and she got a good fingering.
Next day saw an old female colleague, who had always had a bit of a crush on me. E had been to bed together on my last day. This time she told me she's engaged so won't be going with me to hotel. Ok. Anyways we ended up in nice quiet wine bar near entance to Fuxing park. We found a quiet little corner (altoh I did notice some cctv cameras) and had wine, eventually started making out and and and. After two hours, thankfully our corner is still quiet, and by then I've been sucking her nipples, and she ha her hand in my pants. CCTV camera feed went ot managers office I coul see but no manager there.
From ther to Fuxing park (by now its 11pm) and had a walk in park. At one moment she's about to go down on me, but suddenly three people start walking on sme path. There were none there moments before. I guess undercovers. Anyways she went home and I went to a BBS to work out the frustration.
And now. I'm heading to Peacock again. LOL
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1129040]Used to live here, but havnt been back for a few years. Place has changed a lot. Anyways to ease myself into things, had a visit to Peacock / Rainbow massge which is noted here a lot. I had been there when I lvied here and was as good as I remembered it. Girl did the massage just fine, she got a good fingering and we ended up lying down hugging with her trying to stir my brother into life even after hed just shot. Was nice.
Later that day went to Jinglin, also mentioned here. Girl wasnt as cute but yes I came and she got a good fingering.
Next day saw an old female colleague, who had always had a bit of a crush on me. E had been to bed together on my last day. This time she told me she's engaged so won't be going with me to hotel. Ok. Anyways we ended up in nice quiet wine bar near entance to Fuxing park. We found a quiet little corner (altoh I did notice some cctv cameras) and had wine, eventually started making out and and and. After two hours, thankfully our corner is still quiet, and by then I've been sucking her nipples, and she ha her hand in my pants. CCTV camera feed went ot managers office I coul see but no manager there.
From ther to Fuxing park (by now its 11pm) and had a walk in park. At one moment she's about to go down on me, but suddenly three people start walking on sme path. There were none there moments before. I guess undercovers. Anyways she went home and I went to a BBS to work out the frustration.
And now. I'm heading to Peacock again. LOL[/QUOTE]What's the adress of the peacok? Was thinking it had close (if you can pm me) thanks you
[QUOTE=Xal Jean;1129074]What's the adress of the peacok? Was thinking it had close (if you can pm me) thanks you[/QUOTE]Still there and same place that I had been to many years previously. 1449 Xieshi road. Exit Damuquio station number 4, walk north, turn left and at no 1449. Ask for Number 5. Aloth yesterday she was only girl on duty LOL.
Another very nice place with nicer rooms, is My spa. 229 Ming Yue road, pudong new area. Very nice. Rmb 399 I think
Went to Malone's last weekend and boy was it crowded, had to queue up to use the Gent's even. Had a quick chat with an overweight Filipina who had a very nervous girl with her, another girl who I might have met before maybe in Shanghai or Hong Kong but she wanted too much.
Back to Manhatten and the same nervous girl turned up, this time escorted by a different Filipina, turns out this is Annie's first night in Shanghai, she is small and pretty. I tell her I want all night and only going to pay 700, they remind me this is Saturday night, I remind them that she is new and needs looking after.
So I took Annie and it turns out she didn't know what she would be doing in Shanghai, just told that there is plenty of work! Once back at my hotel she got on with it but it was obvious that she was not a pro. She told me that all her clothes were borrowed as she did not have clothes like this in the province. She just had a thin dress and thin coat with just bare legs, she was cold in Shanghai. Also said it was the first time she had had sex for 4 years since her husband died.
She was a reasonable shag but inexperienced and I actually felt a bit bad about her situation, she had to borrow money to get to Shanghai and now has to work on her back to pay it back. I the morning I stuck her in a taxi in a strange city with just a scrap of paper with her address on in Chinese to get back to where she was staying.
Someone is making money from tricking girls like this into coming to Shanghai. I don't want to moralise but we too are promoting it my using the service they reluctantly provide. If you meet Annie try and treat her well like I did.
Next time I might find a more obvious hooker so as not to feel a little guilty.
Damn gone to Jinglin the place is crap, I mean the facilities look like BBS and the oil they used stink.
I rather recommend an adress on Panyu road (cross Hongqiao road) for this service. I can't recall the number. It's on the left of the street, one block before a supermarket.
2 years ago it was the best place in shanghai for whatever service you want. Facilities were very nice (nice room, bath, shower area, huge fishbowl with glass) They had closed down the spa and full service a year ago.
Now they now just offer same kind of massage than jinglin. But the room is quite nicer and service better.
1hour for oil massage cost 198 rmb and then you will tip 100 if you want to have more than your back.
Otherwise they also offered it for 396 rmb for 2 hours and then you don't have to tip.
First visit to China / Shanghai coming up in a few weeks. Staying a week so some ladies will be needed.
I'm going to stay at the Howard Johnson. Are any of the "famous" places Bodi. 999 Malones in the neighboorhood?
What about any other place.
Please help out a guy soon to be in need.
[QUOTE=Svenne69; 1129524]First visit to China / Shanghai coming up in a few weeks. Staying a week so some ladies will be needed.
I'm going to stay at the Howard Johnson. Are any of the "famous" places Bodi. 999 Malones in the neighboorhood?
What about any other place.
Please help out a guy soon to be in need. [/QUOTE]Which howard johnson? You need to provide a bit more info if you want answers other than RTFF. What sort of places are you looking for?
A hairless pussy I mean. LOL. Had one last day in Sh, so having done all my work, I contacted a girl I knew who used to work in Peacock. I found I still had her number and she said she would be happy to come over for a massage. She arrived and was very well presented. Looked like a professional secretary. Had the massage and she offers the extras. Wanted too much I thought so I let her keep her clothes on. Still paid rm 500 for a nice little wank but nothing special. Same price as if I'd gone to peacock LOL.
We nt out for drinks, ugly old things in Malones, not much better in Manhattan. Filipinas, Vietnames with push up bras who have clearly done too much time on the sheets. Ncie scene in Big Bamboo. The tall waitress upstairs with glasses gave me her number but I knew I couldn't wait till 2am. Headed towards hotel and stopped in a bar near my pudong hotel. Normal bar with a few girls in etc. One started rubbing etc. I checked her equipment and it was a hairless pussy. The ONLY one in all China (only one I found in 5 days here ). Rm 100 to the bar and we headed home. She got rm 600 for her nights work. She loved my collection of vibrators. Woke up asking to play with them. So I got a very nice view of her pussy for breakfast. Thats it. 5 days in Shanghai.
Oh and one appropriate comment. I used to live in Sh. Was asking young barman in malones where blue frog an other Tongren Lu bars had gone. Told him I hadn't been in Sh for 3 years. He said " 3 years dude, thats a looong time, lots change in a city in 3 years " I guess he was right.
Just back from chengjiaqiao and pretty nice place with so many girls in each little shop.
A lot of young pretty girls. I tried to go into three of them where I was welcomed very badly. They wanted 300-500rmb for me when a Chinese dude would be allowed to enter for 150rmb. I am white and don't speak good Chinese. Quite disappointed as I don't like to bargain. The places just before the bridge seem nicer as they were ok for 200rmb a girl. I still don't know why in some of the places there, there were no way at all for laowai to get laid.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1128331]I was tempted by the recent talk of this place. It does indeed seem like it would get targeted by LE soon because it just seems so out of control over there. If you pop "Chengjiaqiao" into google maps with no street number, the default spot on the street it zooms to is actually the right spot.
LongXi Road stop on line 10 will get you to within a 5-10 minute walk of the place.
The exact location is basically where Chengjiaqiao Road intersects with JinHui Road. Then down (south) both streets for about 2 blocks is just place after place. Incredibly obvious and back to back next to each other.
I went there yesterday. Tried one, then another. As usual the younger the girl, the more troublesome, but it's cheap so I can't really complain too much. The girls ranged from 1s to. Surprisingly. 9s. When you've found the place. Don't just go into the first one. Peak into at least 3 or 4 of them to get a lay of the land.
Also. I'm white, but never felt any danger or got any negative attention. Take-out would be cool, but I don't speak Chinese. Price was 200-300 depending. I didn't bother trying to haggle. [/QUOTE]
Could you give the location of this bar in pudong? And what is peacock, never heard about it?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1129741]A hairless pussy I mean. LOL. Had one last day in Sh, so having done all my work, I contacted a girl I knew who used to work in Peacock. I found I still had her number and she said she would be happy to come over for a massage. She arrived and was very well presented. Looked like a professional secretary. Had the massage and she offers the extras. Wanted too much I thought so I let her keep her clothes on. Still paid rm 500 for a nice little wank but nothing special. Same price as if I'd gone to peacock LOL.
We nt out for drinks, ugly old things in Malones, not much better in Manhattan. Filipinas, Vietnames with push up bras who have clearly done too much time on the sheets. Ncie scene in Big Bamboo. The tall waitress upstairs with glasses gave me her number but I knew I couldn't wait till 2am. Headed towards hotel and stopped in a bar near my pudong hotel. Normal bar with a few girls in etc. One started rubbing etc. I checked her equipment and it was a hairless pussy. The ONLY one in all China (only one I found in 5 days here ). Rm 100 to the bar and we headed home. She got rm 600 for her nights work. She loved my collection of vibrators. Woke up asking to play with them. So I got a very nice view of her pussy for breakfast. Thats it. 5 days in Shanghai.
Oh and one appropriate comment. I used to live in Sh. Was asking young barman in malones where blue frog an other Tongren Lu bars had gone. Told him I hadn't been in Sh for 3 years. He said " 3 years dude, thats a looong time, lots change in a city in 3 years " I guess he was right. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1129741]A hairless pussy I mean. LOL. Had one last day in Sh, so having done all my work, I contacted a girl I knew who used to work in Peacock. I found I still had her number and she said she would be happy to come over for a massage. She arrived and was very well presented. Looked like a professional secretary. Had the massage and she offers the extras. Wanted too much I thought so I let her keep her clothes on. Still paid rm 500 for a nice little wank but nothing special. Same price as if I'd gone to peacock LOL.
We nt out for drinks, ugly old things in Malones, not much better in Manhattan. Filipinas, Vietnames with push up bras who have clearly done too much time on the sheets. Ncie scene in Big Bamboo. The tall waitress upstairs with glasses gave me her number but I knew I couldn't wait till 2am. Headed towards hotel and stopped in a bar near my pudong hotel. Normal bar with a few girls in etc. One started rubbing etc. I checked her equipment and it was a hairless pussy. The ONLY one in all China (only one I found in 5 days here ). Rm 100 to the bar and we headed home. She got rm 600 for her nights work. She loved my collection of vibrators. Woke up asking to play with them. So I got a very nice view of her pussy for breakfast. Thats it. 5 days in Shanghai.
Oh and one appropriate comment. I used to live in Sh. Was asking young barman in malones where blue frog an other Tongren Lu bars had gone. Told him I hadn't been in Sh for 3 years. He said " 3 years dude, thats a looong time, lots change in a city in 3 years " I guess he was right. [/QUOTE]Which bar?
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1129989]Which bar?[/QUOTE]At back of Four Points. Can't recall the road, but theres two bars on the road. Standard "buy me drink while I let you touch me " type bar.
[QUOTE=Mike666;1129672]Which howard johnson? You need to provide a bit more info if you want answers other than RTFF. What sort of places are you looking for?[/QUOTE]Sorry, Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel at No. 595, Jiu Jiang Road.
As this is my first time, I have no clue where this is and if the "famous" places as I mentoned (based on what I've found on ISG) are close.
Basically looking for a fishbowl experience and to bring a few ladies to the hotel.
Any help appreciated.
[QUOTE=Svenne69; 1130096]Sorry, Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel at No. 595, Jiu Jiang Road.
As this is my first time, I have no clue where this is and if the "famous" places as I mentoned (based on what I've found on ISG) are close.
Basically looking for a fishbowl experience and to bring a few ladies to the hotel.
Any help appreciated. [/QUOTE]Search for postings on "bodi","999", and "sacrosa / sarcosa". Also look for any posts that mention Manhattan and "tongren lu".
I don't think you'll get a lot of replies until do some reading. There are plenty of postings on sauans and bars about a month back.
[QUOTE=NCyellow; 1127354][url]http://www.aish001.com/?fromuser=ryanrei[/url]
Any one tried this site? I checked inside and find some really beauties.
But unfortunately, it is only in Chinese language.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the site, this is great. Independant girls and real photos for the most part. I have never tried apartment girls before and thought I might on my next trip to Shanghai. They post their QQ numbers on the site so I added a few and chatted with them. One is a former sauna worker, one an office worker doing this part time. They had photos and let me see webcam (keep in mind the photos on the site may be glamour shots). I like the idea of having some contact before and after we meet.
Range from 300. 800 RMB depending on looks and service provided. Most will do FS (include full body massage, shower, oral. 69, sex with condom).
None spoke English. They gave me their address and phone number. I will try it out in a couple weeks and post my report later.
Tybao
Thanks, any idea of the location of the hotel? Is in close to any of those that you mention?
[QUOTE=Mike666; 1130196]Search for postings on "bodi","999", and "sacrosa / sarcosa". Also look for any posts that mention Manhattan and "tongren lu".
I don't think you'll get a lot of replies until do some reading. There are plenty of postings on sauans and bars about a month back. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Svenne69;1130363]Thanks, any idea of the location of the hotel? Is in close to any of those that you mention?[/QUOTE]I looked on Google maps and it seems you are right near Nanjing Lu in a very central location and near the line 2 subway. If you had any familiarity with Shanghai it would be a simple matter to get to the so called famous places you want to go. For instance, Malones, Judy's and Manhattan are just 3 subway stops away in Jingan Temple. But a 5 min walk from the station and maybe you won't be oriented to find your way to those bars. Sarcosa is just 2 subway stations away (dongchang lu). But then a 10 min walk and the directions are a bit complicated (I saw them on here once but haven't been there myself).
Be aware that Nanjing Lu is a main shopping area and people walking area in Shanghai and that if you walk on the street, as I suspect you will, you will be approached by lots of touts and women. Probably all will scam you so I recommend ignoring them all. The touts will take you to a karaoke and you will be charged an excessive amount for nothing. The girls will take you to a tea shop to dirink tea and talk and you will be charged an excessive amount for nothing.
So, for fishbowl experience, I recommend Bodi. The address is 1245 Longyang Road. Take the line 2 subway to the Longyang station. Walk outside the station, under the maglev station to the taxi rack and take a taxi. It's a 5 min ride. Have the concierge of your hotel write "1245 Longyang Lu" in Chinese so you can't give it to the taxi driver.
For picking up take out girls, the easiest bet is Manhattan at 154 Nanyang Lu. Again, have the concierge write the address in Chinese and take a taxi. Maybe 10mins from your hotel. Manhattan is slim pickings until after 10pm with most girls arriving around 11 or 12 (why the hell is that? What are these girls doing til then, anyone know?).
Please post reports on your experiences.
[QUOTE=Svenne69;1130363]Thanks, any idea of the location of the hotel? Is in close to any of those that you mention?[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about bars.
But the closest sauna to your location is probably Sacrosa, though it is across the river, which you can take Metro Line 2 to get there and it's only like 2 stops away. (Exit at Dong Chang road station)
Use the search function for more exact details.
Bodi is only a bit farther then Sacrosa so you can take Line 2 down to Longyang Road Station then proceed by taxi. (Probably 15 or less RMB from the station to Bodi)
999 is the farthest of the 3, despite it being on the same side of the river as your hotel. I would estimate taxi fare to be around 45RMB from your hotel to 999. You could proceed by metro line which is obviously cheaper but I don't recommend it for first-timers because changing lines can be confusing for the inexperienced.
If you want to proceed by Metro to 999, nearest station is Shanghai Stadium but you should exit from the Line 4 exits. It's a bit complicated to describe.
Hi Folks,
I will be visiting shanghai for the first time this April. I will stay at InterContinental Shanghai Expo (No. 1188 Xueye Road) Hotel for a week. Kindly PM me the details regarding good MP nearby.
Thanks a lot!
Paulson
What is the hottest nightclub / dance club / bar / lounge right now? I did a search of the forum and can't find anything new. Most reports are at least 8 months old. Anyone had any luck with freebies anywhere recently? I am young, not ugly, and speak Chinese.
On my last visit 10 months ago I met a freebie at Malone's. She was very hot (mid 20's, face and body a 9 IMHO).
We exchanged numbers, she started texting me and we went out, back to my place, good time. She knew what she wanted and came at least once for sure.
Most of my freebies in the past have come off the net but I am interested in really hitting the club scene on my next visit.
I have heard good things about 'The Apartment' on Yongfu Lu near fuxing Xi Lu. Anyone been there?
Any updates from Bar Rouge, Brown Sugar, Babyface, MINT, JZ Club, Shiva Lounge, Paulaner, Muse, Big Bamboo, Velvet, The Shelter?
Tybao
Hello folks,
On my way to Shanghai now and I'm trying to figure out what my best options are for some fun. I've spent hours reading posts on this forum and it seems like Sauna are the way to go here. I'm wondering if there are other good options. I'm really into girls really dressed up (heels, stockings, skirts, etc) and the whole tease deal and I don't think sauna's are the best options for that. Am I right? I once had such an experience in a KTV in Shanghai many years ago but I went with a group of locals who got me in some great place and now I am solo so I don't know if I can get in a KTV now (also my Chinese is minimal). Shanghai doesn't have strip clubs I'm told. So maybe an outcall? Is there a good outcall scene? I like to "see" the goods before deciding so outcalls aren't ideal but maybe that is my best bet. Also one time, I hooked up with a well dressed girl hanging out in the hotel bar (it was fairly obvious why she was there). It was pricey and she was just "ok" from the service department, but I liked the fact that I could size her up first and flirt with her before deciding. I'm wondering if there are any hotels known for quality such girls, or maybe even a club of some sort known for that thing. Price is not that big a deal to me as long as I can find what I'm looking for.
Thanks for reading.
Donny
Gentlemen,
The following telephone numbers should not be trusted or used. The girls are very beautiful, but only stay at your apartment for about 25-30 minutes, with very limited services. I received the number from an acquaintance, but will no longer be using their services and I recommend you to do the same.
The numbers are:
+8613714646073.
+8613402040500.
Their "business card" for you as well:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]147360[/ATTACH]
Best,
Bxbxbx
[QUOTE=Carage; 1130518]I don't know anything about bars.
But the closest sauna to your location is probably Sacrosa, though it is across the river, which you can take Metro Line 2 to get there and it's only like 2 stops away. (Exit at Dong Chang road station)
Use the search function for more exact details.
Bodi is only a bit farther then Sacrosa so you can take Line 2 down to Longyang Road Station then proceed by taxi. (Probably 15 or less RMB from the station to Bodi)
999 is the farthest of the 3, despite it being on the same side of the river as your hotel. I would estimate taxi fare to be around 45RMB from your hotel to 999. You could proceed by metro line which is obviously cheaper but I don't recommend it for first-timers because changing lines can be confusing for the inexperienced.
If you want to proceed by Metro to 999, nearest station is Shanghai Stadium but you should exit from the Line 4 exits. It's a bit complicated to describe.[/QUOTE]Heting is also not terribly far, since line 8 comes out of the same station there and Nanjing Road East. It's a longer ride but not by much.
There are a bunch of places right around the Century Ave metro station, all those hotels have something (and word was the Merrilynn should be open again?) If not, there is a more limited option at the Merilynn there, you can go right into the "beauty salon" on the ground floor (enter from either the hotel lobby or the Laoshan Lu side of the building). They have a deal for like 800 RMB.
[QUOTE=Donny23; 1130602]Hello, folks,
On my way to Shanghai now.
I once had such an experience in a KTV in Shanghai many years ago but I went with a group of locals who got me in some great place and now I am solo so I don't know if I can get in a KTV now (also my Chinese is minimal). Shanghai doesn't have strip clubs I'm told. .
Thanks for reading.
Donny[/QUOTE]I would not go alone in a KTV, especially if you can't handle Chinese.
KTV is for a bnch of friends surrounded by nice girls 8and what happens, happens,) but honestly you need to be with a group of friends.
[QUOTE=Donny23; 1130602]Hello, folks,
On my way to Shanghai now and I'm trying to figure out what my best options are for some fun. I've spent hours reading posts on this forum and it seems like Sauna are the way to go here. I'm wondering if there are other good options. I'm really into girls really dressed up (heels, stockings, skirts, etc) and the whole tease deal and I don't think sauna's are the best options for that. Am I right? I once had such an experience in a KTV in Shanghai many years ago but I went with a group of locals who got me in some great place and now I am solo so I don't know if I can get in a KTV now (also my Chinese is minimal). Shanghai doesn't have strip clubs I'm told. So maybe an outcall? Is there a good outcall scene? I like to "see" the goods before deciding so outcalls aren't ideal but maybe that is my best bet. Also one time, I hooked up with a well dressed girl hanging out in the hotel bar (it was fairly obvious why she was there). It was pricey and she was just "ok" from the service department, but I liked the fact that I could size her up first and flirt with her before deciding. I'm wondering if there are any hotels known for quality such girls, or maybe even a club of some sort known for that thing. Price is not that big a deal to me as long as I can find what I'm looking for.
Thanks for reading.
Donny[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. I think some saunas such as Southern and JiYuan 3 (now called Yaohong) offers a fair selection of outfits and toys if you are into that stuff.
Typically sauna ladies carry some outfits in their giant purses too, like stockings or fishnet. Usually they will ask if you want them to put something on.
[QUOTE=Tybao; 1130326]Thanks for the site, this is great. Independant girls and real photos for the most part. I have never tried apartment girls before and thought I might on my next trip to Shanghai. They post their QQ numbers on the site so I added a few and chatted with them. One is a former sauna worker, one an office worker doing this part time. They had photos and let me see webcam (keep in mind the photos on the site may be glamour shots). I like the idea of having some contact before and after we meet.
Range from 300. 800 RMB depending on looks and service provided. Most will do FS (include full body massage, shower, oral. 69, sex with condom).
None spoke English. They gave me their address and phone number. I will try it out in a couple weeks and post my report later.
Tybao[/QUOTE]Hmm actually I can't register, what should I write in &36992; &35831; &30721; :?
[QUOTE=Xal Jean;1130804]Hmm actually I can't register, what should I write in &36992; &35831; &30721; :?[/QUOTE]Seems I can't copy paste the Chinese character but when I try to register the last case '&36992; &35831; &30721;" (Invitation code). Dunno what should I write into it.
[QUOTE=Bxbxbx; 1130668]Gentlemen,
The following telephone numbers should not be trusted or used. The girls are very beautiful, but only stay at your apartment for about 25-30 minutes, with very limited services. I received the number from an acquaintance, but will no longer be using their services and I recommend you to do the same.
The numbers are:
+8613714646073.
+8613402040500.
Their "business card" for you as well:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]147360[/ATTACH]
Best,
Bxbxbx[/QUOTE]Suggest you have more than 3 posts to your name before you give such a strong recommendation.
What about a report on each of your meetings with gals from these phone numbers. . . So that all the bruvvers can assess your credibility.
Just my today's suggestion. . .
P13
Has anyone done a night life tour in Shanghai? I am going for first time and do not speak any Chinese, is it worth me hooking up with someone to get a lay of the land first? Any recommendations or words of caution? Also how about hotels with resident fish bowl and / or room service, is there such thing? I have read the ff but found nothing definitive. I look forward to sharing after my trip.
[QUOTE=DaveRichardson;1130943]Has anyone done a night life tour in Shanghai? I am going for first time and do not speak any Chinese, is it worth me hooking up with someone to get a lay of the land first? Any recommendations or words of caution? Also how about hotels with resident fish bowl and / or room service, is there such thing? I have read the ff but found nothing definitive. I look forward to sharing after my trip.[/QUOTE]To Dave,
I think you should be ok in Shanghai this is a tourist city and many foriegner expat live here, many speak english here just hank out around toruist bar you will meet friend, you don't need any one to hold your hand but I cannot say that on other city in China.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1130476]I looked on Google maps and it seems you are right near Nanjing Lu in a very central location and near the line 2 subway. If you had any familiarity with Shanghai it would be a simple matter to get to the so called famous places you want to go. For instance, Malones, Judy's and Manhattan are just 3 subway stops away in Jingan Temple. But a 5 min walk from the station and maybe you won't be oriented to find your way to those bars. Sarcosa is just 2 subway stations away (dongchang lu). But then a 10 min walk and the directions are a bit complicated (I saw them on here once but haven't been there myself).
Be aware that Nanjing Lu is a main shopping area and people walking area in Shanghai and that if you walk on the street, as I suspect you will, you will be approached by lots of touts and women. Probably all will scam you so I recommend ignoring them all. The touts will take you to a karaoke and you will be charged an excessive amount for nothing. The girls will take you to a tea shop to dirink tea and talk and you will be charged an excessive amount for nothing.
So, for fishbowl experience, I recommend Bodi. The address is 1245 Longyang Road. Take the line 2 subway to the Longyang station. Walk outside the station, under the maglev station to the taxi rack and take a taxi. It's a 5 min ride. Have the concierge of your hotel write "1245 Longyang Lu" in Chinese so you can't give it to the taxi driver.
For picking up take out girls, the easiest bet is Manhattan at 154 Nanyang Lu. Again, have the concierge write the address in Chinese and take a taxi. Maybe 10mins from your hotel. Manhattan is slim pickings until after 10pm with most girls arriving around 11 or 12 (why the hell is that? What are these girls doing til then, anyone know?).
Please post reports on your experiences.[/QUOTE]They're shagging their first customer of the night. I generally do that, as it's too late otherwise.
[QUOTE=Maddog40;1128075]Jman, not sure if you mean to search ISG under Forum for "apartment girls", but I am not able to find anything. Suggestions?[/QUOTE]Search this thread for apartment girls but you may have to go back a few year.
Shanghai English Speaking Mamasan. [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. She has access to girls in Shanghai and Kunshan.
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My monging started with putting the feelers out in a legitimate looking but potentially HJ giving massage centre not far from the Meridien hotel and other larger / more upmarket hotels near Ningbo Lu. My first massage was in a scummy looking massage place and the girl had no problem massaging my balls and penis ajd the girls were commenting on my girth. However I was not in the mood and insisted on foot massage whuch was of ok quality. I chatted to the better looking and younger masseuse next to me and strangely about 50 minutes in she and my masseuse started having an increasingly resentful slagging match to the point where my telling them to shut up after politely saying I was there to relax not hear an argument. The situ got more out of control and I upped and left as the behaviour was really off by both of them. I refused to pay 60 yuan instead dropping 50 on my stool on the way out.
I later tried a much better and kept place this time only 48 yuan for 60 mins foot massage and got talking to the 20 something and pretty 007 from hainan island. I tried to get it out of her that an hours oil massage would end in a the Fei Ji (HJ) without using the term and she did affirmatively respond that my bottom would be touched if I went for a one hour oil massage at 198 yuan. Tres expensive if you ask me but worth if the HJ and AR was going to be outstanding as in Shenzhen the days before.
Next day I take a one hour foot massage and make sure she "wants" to give me an oil. We go next door after the foot and I strip down. As I needed the toilet I negotiated an extra 10 mins of oil and 10 off the foot (for extra HJ time). The oil massage was as good as any I have hadm I was fairly liberal with my own hands, massaging and she really enjoyed my gently rubbing her back and giving her ass little squeezes. The time was ticking away and I was trying to hint to get on with the HJ but the massage went on and on. And on. I was quick to turn over but she kept being careful to cover Old Trusty with the towel even though she had enjoyed a couple of glimpses at my semi erect member and I had a fiddle to try to get her to take over naturally.
She just wasn't getting the hints and I was getting fed up of oil massage, endless hot towels and tame touching between us especially as I had made an effort to "build" the relationship. With 15 minutes on the clock remaining I pushed my need for tummy massage to top priority and flipped having been turned again on to my front. I asked outright for the wank but to my utter dismay received the communication that it was an absolute no no. A small and I mean small consolation was that she granted me permission when I asked if I could do it myself while she oil tummy rubbed and she did not mind. So she gave me a good tummy rub and almost a little Shanghainese dance while I humilatedly masturbated myself close to orgasm.
She was soon out the door at time and I felt somewhat fleeced by the deal however it was my misunderstanding and fault with only the slightest being misled really. Damage 246 made me really annoyed though since I was up forna happy ending or would not have paid the 198 for one hour with oil, especially when the foot massage was so good at only forty eight. She seemed to get really turned on by my calves, loved my touching her butt but turned down my need for a HJ in the end although she looked a few times at my jerking off. What gives? I don't know.
I resolved the same evening by hook or by crook that I was going to get my rocks off before the night was o'er. Found out was staying on Xietu Lu. Now that was a stroke of luck or so I thought since in my list of places to do the filthy deed, I had come across the junction of Xietu Lu and Nandan Lu as a sure fire bet (see earlier posts). About 2. 5km walk later and several snacks I find this junction is huge and no obvious BBS. Alas! Poor Yorik! I knew him well. Etc.
The one massage centre I found which had Korean as well as Chinese script seemed too much like it might be repeat performance of the above two day plan which ended in failure so I decided to call off, not happy with the very weak directions for this junction given by the poster below who said there are at least 2 good venues. Tail between my legs but with renewed determination I set back to the part of Xietu Lu I am staying in. Near Luban Lu underground. Now when I last stayed here there were tonnes of sleaze pits, pink and blue light BBSs and massages with negotiable HEs but literally none to be seen two or three years later that I could find. Yet another bummer.
Although there is a KTV in the area which doubles as a sex massage parlour and I saw a dingy looking foot massage with two nice looking ladie and two blokes smoking which might have just had promise without the hangaround 40s males I realised Plan B was long overdue since I had started with the 2 hour fail around 3pm and it was now around 7pm.
I shoot home to check the directions and distance for chengjia qiao lu whatever it is called (check below with the LE potential concerns and BBSs all in a row) writing down the Chinese characters from google maps in case the cabbie fails to understand my pronounciation. I get a brilliant cabbie who although no English knows where we're going tells me it will be well under fifty kuai and relaxes me and sets me at ease.
Getting there in about 15 minutes I ask him where the "yow anmor de difung". Have massage places- are and he points me correctly towards the five or six small pinkly lit rooms are and tells. Me I can grab food at any of a no. Of restaurants along this same road. Now this road extends across a main road. One end there are no pink rooms filled to the brim with teen and twenty something country girls scantily clad the other has lots on both sides, down the darkly lit road on the left a hundred meters down and in the dead end of little shops on the left after you pass the first couple of massage shops and keep to the main road (rather than the aforementioned darkly lit street).
First impression was an uncomfortable one. Firstly the question arises where the hek does the massage take place? These rooms are tiny and there seems to be nowhere to get the HJ. Secondly the main street is buzzing with cars, restaurant goers, hotel guests making it a bit awkward as everyone is looking at you and passing comment that you are foreign, tall, fat, skinny, bald, short, etc etc including the various mechanics, fruitiers, etc etc. Some of the girls or their mamasans will beckon you in. Some will give you the look. Some will give you a look of go away. Some will look pleased and curious to see you, some will look fed up, miserable and trafficked others will look indifferent.
Thirdly and finally you have male touts outside some vying for your business. If this all doesn't intimidate you good as you are about to have some knockout good fun. Now about price. You will be asked for 200. You should negotiate 150 tops.
1. Choose your "BBS". If you really cannot handle the public pressure you can go down the darkly lit left fork and a small parade of shops on your left will reveal two sets of three to five girls. The last one had a papasan who was smoking and refused to take less than 200 but the first one which was my second visit of the evening takes 150 per shot. One of the shops on the "main strip" had about 20 girls. The KTV has about 25 average to good girls hungry for attention but the papa is a bit of a swine and not foreigner frienly so don't bother. The bigger and more classy looking saunas on the perpendicular main road I do not know.
2. Once in your BBS you are taking the plunge so make sure they have agreed your 150 and pick a girl sharply. She will lead you to a cupboard like room with some clothes and a single bed or if you are lucky a double (hint: darkly lit road). I picked a cutey who was far too small for me but to my delight she was on for FS which made the whole two days worth the trouble I had gone to. She was about 20 wearing kinky fishnet stockings no knickers and stripped to reveal sweet tits with little pink nips. Strictly no BJ no touching much and no kissing she calmed me down reassuringly as I was a bit worried about the situ but she was nice. I pretended not to understand the part about Old Trusty being of too great girth for this petite darling and soon she was riding Trusty with gentle bounces of her wet and tight quim.
I flipped her over for some side after she lays on top of me and really enjoys One-eyed Mr Winkle's gentle but deep thrusting while we get close cheek to cheek but strictly no kissing at all of any body part. Good feel of titz though. I
Turn her around for some reverse cowgirl and really thrust in deep. She is wet enough to be elastic to take all of of me inside her and I end up sbooting a load into her adaquately protective sheath.
[QUOTE=Apple Court;1131170]They're shagging their first customer of the night. I generally do that, as it's too late otherwise.[/QUOTE]Right; I too often want an early shag, but where do you find them earlier? I haven't seen much selection around the bars before 10pm unless you go someplace like Bar Rouge for Happy Hour.
[QUOTE=Donny23; 1130602]Hello, folks,
On my way to Shanghai now and I'm trying to figure out what my best options are for some fun. I've spent hours reading posts on this forum and it seems like Sauna are the way to go here. I'm wondering if there are other good options. I'm really into girls really dressed up (heels, stockings, skirts, etc) and the whole tease deal and I don't think sauna's are the best options for that. Am I right? I once had such an experience in a KTV in Shanghai many years ago. Is there a good outcall scene? .
I like to "see" the goods before deciding. .
Donny[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're more interested in picking something up from a bar or club. Manhattan is good for foreign talent. You can go to the bars at Xin Tian Di or Barbarosa and find local talent. More upscale is Bar Rouge or Mint. Plenty of girls in heels and stockings in those places.
Now I have a question, what is the actual going rate at Manhattan these days for overnight? I know they'll start out asking for 1500 and usually will easily settle on 1000, but is that really the going rate or should I being negotiating to 700?
[QUOTE=Xal Jean;1130805]Seems I can't copy paste the Chinese character but when I try to register the last case '&36992; &35831; &30721;" (Invitation code). Dunno what should I write into it.[/QUOTE]I didn't register, just click on nusheng jiaoliu qu (Female communcation area, the icon with a bunch of blondes). Scroll to the bottom and click either link: top one for "moderator recommended ladies" or bottom one for (girls recommend themselves). The first 5 or 6 posts are sticky's, after that click any post for photos and introductions. They have their QQ numbers you can see. I added a few and communicate through QQ, but registering might be cool too.
For example, this girl Li Lin, although not a great face, has some huge knockers.
Tybao
Continuing on from below. We have a cuddle and get dressed at which time decide to take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and tell her I haven't got any money but I will come back tomorrow is that ok? Thinking I will "get her" with that she calmly and kindly says it's ok. I give over 150rmb as she has been an angel and say cheerio and off I pop (pardon the pun).
25 zhaozi later for 8 rmb plus 5 rmb in the fruit machine and nimrod the cock clown is satisfied we are ready for round 2. This time I buy a bag of fruit for my "cuntry" friends along the dark road. When I walked in earlier one of them seemed to raise her voice so I stormed out saying "don't have a go at me or I just won't bother" however I now realise I want to go back. Oops silly old cockface didn't have that in mind earlier did he! They politely refuse the fruit- excellejt means I have a fruit feast for later and I decide on the only girl who. Looks over 18 a single mum it turns out age around 30 and well made up a 6 to 7 but I have a feeling about her.
Turns out my instincts are right as after I infork her it is my birthday which it is, she proceeds to give a top notch BBBJ followed by several positions of FS (covered of course). Saggy but remarkably well proportioned tits but she loses enthusiasm and starts to hurry me but then I am giving her a throbbing hard fkuc for 10 minutes and changing positions regularly. I take off the condom and she is displeased as now gagging for more after a round of CG. She wants me to come so I get her to do more BBBJ and stick a couple of fingers up her ass and pussy while she genuinely moans.
She wants me to come but I have ordered her to fetch "xiao mei mei". Little sister- who I have decided is going to provide another round of ENTERtainment. She begs me to let her make me come and tried to tell me I won't have to pay another 150 if she gets me to shoot my load but I politely remind her she is tired and must take a rest and call for prossie number 2. She gets her knickers on and cutey 20 yr old bumpkin comes in for some FS. No BJ here. She asks if I have already come but I have not.
She gets a good neck kiss tit squeeze and suck, mishing, sidey and I hoist her leg up. High and get a good view. Of her snatch as I pump my water hose into her convulsing bod making her moan and squeal until I ejacate into her crevice with few ecstatic thrusts.
Damage 300. Total damage 450 for 2 teens and a 30 something. Great sex off the first 2. 6 off the third but she smelt fresh and had the dirtiest and most sexy grin of delight as I entered her soft and moist pussy flaps.
Old Trusty is good and sore now and I have five minutes to spare before my driver returns at the agreed time. I pick up some sugary green tea from a shop and go home for a lesbian porno and a wank before sleeping in and then going for a Shanghai breakfast. Thanks to this forum and Old Trusty's pussy loving personality it has turned out a good ol' night of hardcore mongorama.
[QUOTE=Jon Guoren; 1132200]My monging started with putting the feelers out in a legitimate looking but potentially HJ giving massage centre not far from the Meridien hotel and other larger / more upmarket hotels near Ningbo Lu. My first massage was in a scummy looking massage place and the girl had no problem massaging my balls and penis ajd the girls were commenting on my girth. However I was not in the mood and insisted on foot massage whuch was of ok quality. I chatted to the better looking and younger masseuse next to me and strangely about 50 minutes in she and my masseuse started having an increasingly resentful slagging match to the point where my telling them to shut up after politely saying I was there to relax not hear an argument. The situ got more out of control and I upped and left as the behaviour was really off by both of them. I refused to pay 60 yuan instead dropping 50 on my stool on the way out.
I later tried a much better and kept place this time only 48 yuan for 60 mins foot massage and got talking to the 20 something and pretty 007 from hainan island. I tried to get it out of her that an hours oil massage would end in a the Fei Ji (HJ) without using the term and she did affirmatively respond that my bottom would be touched if I went for a one hour oil massage at 198 yuan. Tres expensive if you ask me but worth if the HJ and AR was going to be outstanding as in Shenzhen the days before.
Next day I take a one hour foot massage and make sure she "wants" to give me an oil. We go next door after the foot and I strip down. As I needed the toilet I negotiated an extra 10 mins of oil and 10 off the foot (for extra HJ time). The oil massage was as good as any I have hadm I was fairly liberal with my own hands, massaging and she really enjoyed my gently rubbing her back and giving her ass little squeezes. The time was ticking away and I was trying to hint to get on with the HJ but the massage went on and on. And on. I was quick to turn over but she kept being careful to cover Old Trusty with the towel even though she had enjoyed a couple of glimpses at my semi erect member and I had a fiddle to try to get her to take over naturally.
She just wasn't getting the hints and I was getting fed up of oil massage, endless hot towels and tame touching between us especially as I had made an effort to "build" the relationship. With 15 minutes on the clock remaining I pushed my need for tummy massage to top priority and flipped having been turned again on to my front. I asked outright for the wank but to my utter dismay received the communication that it was an absolute no no. A small and I mean small consolation was that she granted me permission when I asked if I could do it myself while she oil tummy rubbed and she did not mind. So she gave me a good tummy rub and almost a little Shanghainese dance while I humilatedly masturbated myself close to orgasm.
She was soon out the door at time and I felt somewhat fleeced by the deal however it was my misunderstanding and fault with only the slightest being misled really. Damage 246 made me really annoyed though since I was up forna happy ending or would not have paid the 198 for one hour with oil, especially when the foot massage was so good at only forty eight. She seemed to get really turned on by my calves, loved my touching her butt but turned down my need for a HJ in the end although she looked a few times at my jerking off. What gives? I don't know.
I resolved the same evening by hook or by crook that I was going to get my rocks off before the night was o'er. Found out was staying on Xietu Lu. Now that was a stroke of luck or so I thought since in my list of places to do the filthy deed, I had come across the junction of Xietu Lu and Nandan Lu as a sure fire bet (see earlier posts). About 2. 5km walk later and several snacks I find this junction is huge and no obvious BBS. Alas! Poor Yorik! I knew him well. Etc.
The one massage centre I found which had Korean as well as Chinese script seemed too much like it might be repeat performance of the above two day plan which ended in failure so I decided to call off, not happy with the very weak directions for this junction given by the poster below who said there are at least 2 good venues. Tail between my legs but with renewed determination I set back to the part of Xietu Lu I am staying in. Near Luban Lu underground. Now when I last stayed here there were tonnes of sleaze pits, pink and blue light BBSs and massages with negotiable HEs but literally none to be seen two or three years later that I could find. Yet another bummer.
Although there is a KTV in the area which doubles as a sex massage parlour and I saw a dingy looking foot massage with two nice looking ladie and two blokes smoking which might have just had promise without the hangaround 40s males I realised Plan B was long overdue since I had started with the 2 hour fail around 3pm and it was now around 7pm.
I shoot home to check the directions and distance for chengjia qiao lu whatever it is called (check below with the LE potential concerns and BBSs all in a row) writing down the Chinese characters from google maps in case the cabbie fails to understand my pronounciation. I get a brilliant cabbie who although no English knows where we're going tells me it will be well under fifty kuai and relaxes me and sets me at ease.
Getting there in about 15 minutes I ask him where the "yow anmor de difung". Have massage places- are and he points me correctly towards the five or six small pinkly lit rooms are and tells. Me I can grab food at any of a no. Of restaurants along this same road. Now this road extends across a main road. One end there are no pink rooms filled to the brim with teen and twenty something country girls scantily clad the other has lots on both sides, down the darkly lit road on the left a hundred meters down and in the dead end of little shops on the left after you pass the first couple of massage shops and keep to the main road (rather than the aforementioned darkly lit street).
First impression was an uncomfortable one. Firstly the question arises where the hek does the massage take place? These rooms are tiny and there seems to be nowhere to get the HJ. Secondly the main street is buzzing with cars, restaurant goers, hotel guests making it a bit awkward as everyone is looking at you and passing comment that you are foreign, tall, fat, skinny, bald, short, etc etc including the various mechanics, fruitiers, etc etc. Some of the girls or their mamasans will beckon you in. Some will give you the look. Some will give you a look of go away. Some will look pleased and curious to see you, some will look fed up, miserable and trafficked others will look indifferent.
Thirdly and finally you have male touts outside some vying for your business. If this all doesn't intimidate you good as you are about to have some knockout good fun. Now about price. You will be asked for 200. You should negotiate 150 tops.
1. Choose your "BBS". If you really cannot handle the public pressure you can go down the darkly lit left fork and a small parade of shops on your left will reveal two sets of three to five girls. The last one had a papasan who was smoking and refused to take less than 200 but the first one which was my second visit of the evening takes 150 per shot. One of the shops on the "main strip" had about 20 girls. The KTV has about 25 average to good girls hungry for attention but the papa is a bit of a swine and not foreigner frienly so don't bother. The bigger and more classy looking saunas on the perpendicular main road I do not know.
2. Once in your BBS you are taking the plunge so make sure they have agreed your 150 and pick a girl sharply. She will lead you to a cupboard like room with some clothes and a single bed or if you are lucky a double (hint: darkly lit road). I picked a cutey who was far too small for me but to my delight she was on for FS which made the whole two days worth the trouble I had gone to. She was about 20 wearing kinky fishnet stockings no knickers and stripped to reveal sweet tits with little pink nips. Strictly no BJ no touching much and no kissing she calmed me down reassuringly as I was a bit worried about the situ but she was nice. I pretended not to understand the part about Old Trusty being of too great girth for this petite darling and soon she was riding Trusty with gentle bounces of her wet and tight quim.
I flipped her over for some side after she lays on top of me and really enjoys One-eyed Mr Winkle's gentle but deep thrusting while we get close cheek to cheek but strictly no kissing at all of any body part. Good feel of titz though. I
Turn her around for some reverse cowgirl and really thrust in deep. She is wet enough to be elastic to take all of of me inside her and I end up sbooting a load into her adaquately protective sheath. [/QUOTE]
I will be on a business trip to shanghai next week for a week. I will be staying at sofitel the whole week. Anyone can recommend me something interesting around the hotel? Or do I need to travel a little bit? Anything from a massage, sauna, BBS, or KTV. As long as my little brother will not be bored for the week. Thank you for your help.
I will be on a business trip to shanghai next week for a week. I will be staying at sofitel the whole week. Anyone can recommend me something interesting around the hotel? Or do I need to travel a little bit? Anything from a massage, sauna, BBS, or KTV, or clubs with freebies to hook up with, as long as my little brother will not be bored for the week. Thank you for your help.
[quote=bonzo1; 1122343]so we all know about manhattan and what you get there (phils and viets, mostly) , and bar rouge (overpriced, bad service, not really a pick up bar but some wg's who want way too much money). so where did all the chinese wg's go after manhattan and judy's lost them, and after most of the trl bars rep001tered (and after julu lu closed)? i know there are still some talking bars, but mostly those are just good for spending tons of money on drinks and then going home alone or heading to one of the aforementioned places.
tips? or has shanghai become more of a sauna / ktv city now?
-b-[/quote]can you enlighten me where is this manhattan that many are writing about?
i've never been to shanghai but going there now next week.
[QUOTE=Going Low; 1132856]Can you enlighten me where is this Manhattan that many are writing about?
I've never been to Shanghai but going there now next week.[/QUOTE]Just put "154 Nanyang road, Shanghai" into google maps.
Manhattan is a bar that attracts a lot of WG, especially after 11 pm. Most are Phillies or Viets, but there are others there. All are there for takeout. A girl will smile at you. If you smile back, she will usually com over to talk to you. They may ask 1500 RMB for long-term but most are negotiable down to 1000 and some for 700 RMB.
Manhattan is located on a small street right behind the Portman Ritz Carlton Hotel on West Nanjing Road. I forget the street name but you can't miss it. If you go to the Ritz Carlton, then continue past it (heading west) and then make the first right onto Tongren Lu. You will pass Malone's on your left after about 50 meters. This is also a WG bar with a live band from the Philippines. They play classic rock & roll and is a good place to check out as well. The WGs here tend to be older than Manhattan, but many are Chinese and they are less aggressive than those at Manhattan.
Continue past Malone's and make your first right turn. This is a small dark street, but safe. You will see a hostess bar on your left. Avoid this. You will pay a lot for drinks and get little in return. After about 100 meters, you will see Manhattan on your left. It's easy to miss as it has a small entrance and you must go up a few steps. Just past Manhattan is Big Bamboo (BB). If you see BB, you have gone too far.
However, you may want to stop into BB as it's also a fun place. The waitresses are friendly and mayl give out their phone numbers. There are sometimes WG there although not as many as Malone's or Manhattan.
One final note. If you take Tongren lu south from Malone's and cross over Nanjing Lu, you will see Judy's on your left. There are WG here as well, but I usually find this to be the least interesting of all the bars mentioned.
Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Snoopy1112;1132810]I will be on a business trip to shanghai next week for a week. I will be staying at sofitel the whole week. Anyone can recommend me something interesting around the hotel? Or do I need to travel a little bit? Anything from a massage, sauna, BBS, or KTV, or clubs with freebies to hook up with, as long as my little brother will not be bored for the week. Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]Do you mean the Sofitel in Pudong?
I went to Chengjiaqiao again today (see one my previous posts for directions). This time I bargained. I couldn't get down to 150, but close. I think it's like buying a car in the states. You have the be ready to walk out I guess. With the way this area is set up it's pretty easy to do because you can walk out of one and into another within 60 seconds.
Oh yea there's more to this area if you explore around a bit. There's another cluster of them down the street. Closest intersection is Huaguang Road and Hongzhong Road. Not as big or as tightly packed as the main cluster, but worth looking into if you get bored and like hunting.
2 girls today. Both included BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Mike666;1132964]Do you mean the Sofitel in Pudong?[/QUOTE]The Sofitel in Pudong is no longer called Sofitel. It's called the Oriental Hotel now.
[QUOTE=Mike666;1132964]Do you mean the Sofitel in Pudong?[/QUOTE]Yes, sofitel in Pudong.
[QUOTE=Snoopy1112;1133159]Yes, sofitel in Pudong.[/QUOTE]RTFF the forum for postings on "bodi" and "sacrosa". There's also a sauna right next to the hotel. Get out of the lobby, turn left, walk around the corner. I haven't been there for a long time but it should still be around. Quite expensive, something like 700+RMB for less than 60 mins of play. No soapie. There's the option of showering / bathing with the girl for 1200. Even the girls told me to skip it. No fish bowl and the mamasan isn't all that patient when you ask for multiple girls rotation for the line up. They also offer HJ for around 400 RMB. Nice and clean showering area but way too expensive. Especially since bidi within easy taxi distance.
Right across the street, I think there're a number of "spa" places that likely offer massage+HJ. Haven't tried it but probably not cheap. Please report back to update us.
Cheers
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1133061]I went to Chengjiaqiao again today (see one my previous posts for directions). This time I bargained. I couldn't get down to 150, but close. I think it's like buying a car in the states. You have the be ready to walk out I guess. With the way this area is set up it's pretty easy to do because you can walk out of one and into another within 60 seconds.
Oh yea there's more to this area if you explore around a bit. There's another cluster of them down the street. Closest intersection is Huaguang Road and Hongzhong Road. Not as big or as tightly packed as the main cluster, but worth looking into if you get bored and like hunting.
2 girls today. Both included BBBJ. [/QUOTE]I checked out this area talked to the papasan it's 150 on the spot 200 take out
[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1132927]Manhattan is a bar that attracts a lot of WG, especially after 11 pm. Most are Phillies or Viets, but there are others there. All are there for takeout. A girl will smile at you. If you smile back, she will usually com over to talk to you. They may ask 1500 RMB for long-term but most are negotiable down to 1000 and some for 700 RMB.
Manhattan is located on a small street right behind the Portman Ritz Carlton Hotel on West Nanjing Road. I forget the street name but you can't miss it. If you go to the Ritz Carlton, then continue past it (heading west) and then make the first right onto Tongren Lu. You will pass Malone's on your left after about 50 meters. This is also a WG bar with a live band from the Philippines. They play classic rock & roll and is a good place to check out as well. The WGs here tend to be older than Manhattan, but many are Chinese and they are less aggressive than those at Manhattan.
Continue past Malone's and make your first right turn. This is a small dark street, but safe. You will see a hostess bar on your left. Avoid this. You will pay a lot for drinks and get little in return. After about 100 meters, you will see Manhattan on your left. It's easy to miss as it has a small entrance and you must go up a few steps. Just past Manhattan is Big Bamboo (BB). If you see BB, you have gone too far.
However, you may want to stop into BB as it's also a fun place. The waitresses are friendly and mayl give out their phone numbers. There are sometimes WG there although not as many as Malone's or Manhattan.
One final note. If you take Tongren lu south from Malone's and cross over Nanjing Lu, you will see Judy's on your left. There are WG here as well, but I usually find this to be the least interesting of all the bars mentioned.
Happy hunting. [/QUOTE]I went to Manhattan on, I think, Monday night, this past week, at almost 02:00. The place was packed with people. Honestly, that did not appeal to me despite there were a lot of girls inside and quite a few were very good looking. I just knew that there would not be any bargain and I am never interested in any bidding game. As I was leaving, two Vietnamese girls were arguing right outside the entrance and then started a fight. They were literally kicking and screaming at each other. The security guards and cab drivers stopped and separated them (yes, the cab drivers were actually helping out). But the girls just wouldn't give it up. So I just walked quickly away.
Hi guys,
I was in Shanghai last August and wondering about the going rate as I will be in Shanghai next week. It was 700-900 ST. 1300-1500 LT late last summer. Appear to have risen? Now 800-1000 ST & 1800 LT? Can anyone confirm? Probably be there Friday / Saturday.
Thanks.
Will
[QUOTE=Mike666; 1133202]RTFF the forum for postings on "bodi" and "sacrosa". There's also a sauna right next to the hotel. Get out of the lobby, turn left, walk around the corner. I haven't been there for a long time but it should still be around. Quite expensive, something like 700+RMB for less than 60 mins of play. No soapie. There's the option of showering / bathing with the girl for 1200. Even the girls told me to skip it. No fish bowl and the mamasan isn't all that patient when you ask for multiple girls rotation for the line up. They also offer HJ for around 400 RMB. Nice and clean showering area but way too expensive. Especially since bidi within easy taxi distance.
Right across the street, I think there're a number of "spa" places that likely offer massage+HJ. Haven't tried it but probably not cheap. Please report back to update us.
Cheers[/QUOTE]A friend of mine took me for the 1200 option a couple years back. All the action takes place in a private room (no trip to the locker room or public shower required) with shower, tub, bed, sex chair, etc.
[QUOTE=Willa1; 1133288]Hi guys,
I was in Shanghai last August and wondering about the going rate as I will be in Shanghai next week. It was 700-900 ST. 1300-1500 LT late last summer. Appear to have risen? Now 800-1000 ST & 1800 LT? Can anyone confirm? Probably be there Friday / Saturday.
Thanks.
Will[/QUOTE]It depends on the nationaly, I didn't have problems getting viet stunners for 700 to 1000 LT. Philipinas want more.
The later you pick the girl the lower you can negotiate. Usualy they start with 2000 or 3000. If they don't go down with the price choose another one. There is enough to choose from.
Brothers.
I am a long time visitor to Shanghai but surprisingly first time mongering. Had LT who use to travel there with me and dropped her last year as it became too much hassle. Although, things haven't improved too much as my staff that travel with me are all female (I would love to try 2 or 3 of them but not on my doorstep and all that!)
I stay at a boutique hotel in Taicang Lu, as they treat me well and give great rates to regulars. It is a small Chinese run hotel with only 18 rooms and is right at the edge of Xintiandi. Breakfast is very Chinese but you have plenty to choose from in the area if you want to eat out. Also, they have a surprisingly good Japanese restaurant in house which is relatively inexpensive, given the location.
Anyhow, finally my female staffer went to bed and the hunt began. I took a walk down to Starbucks and sat outside with a coffee and a smoke. It is a great location to check out the talent without too much hassle, if you sit back from the edge of the rows of chairs and tables. Eventually, found one that caught my eye and made our arrangements – RMB 500 for one pop. Went back to the hotel and did the business which was highly mechanical and constant watching of the clock – her name was Lulu and she was to be honest a bit weird, mostly her mannerisms and the way she spoke. It was very below par and a waste of time and money so I won't bore you with the details (nothing particularly worthy of note). One of us wasting time was enough!
The next night I followed the same routine. Perched in my chair at Starbucks I spotted one fit young thing that goes by the name of Lilly or Lili. She clearly was having a bad night as she wanted RMB 500 for a CBJ. I said not a hope – with visions of a repetition of the previous night's disaster – and took a walk. She followed me and asked me my best price which, I decided to take a chance and offered RMB200 for FS. Shock horrors she grabs my arm and accepts my offer!
She is a tiny lady – I am about 1. 8m tall and not particularly fit but I could lift her with one arm. Very small A cup boobs and a nice firm body with no marks or needle tracks. A small bit of hair on her slit but no sign of shaving. One thing though all action is covered so if bareback is your thing she is not the one for you but fine for me. I was surprised that she started off with a cuddle and some general stroking all over. Given that this was relatively early in the night (about 0100) she wasn't in any rush. She has a rather sweet gentle voice and is very talkative but her English is very limited so some Mandarin is needed.
Anyhow, she starts off with CBJ then mish, then doggy and then cowgirl. Since she was so small I was surprised that she ground down to the base of the shaft. When I finally blew she whips if off and climbs under the sheets for another cuddle. She was in no rush to hit the road. Finally had a shower together and paid up – forgot to mention she did not mention money once after we fixed the price. She tried to give me a 'massagey' but I have had stronger scratches so I let her lie back down for a rest.
Overall experience was very good and would recommend her services. Total bill was RMB300 (200 + tip) which to me seems very good for anything in Shanghai let alone a few hours of fun. She headed off and gave me her number. She won't accept texts so you will need some Chinese.
I forgot to mention about the hotel; I walked through the lobby with Lili passing both bell boy and female night receptionist. Both smiled pleasantly and said nothing. I was talking to both of them the next day and no problems.
[QUOTE=Willa1; 1133288]Hi guys,
I was in Shanghai last August and wondering about the going rate as I will be in Shanghai next week. It was 700-900 ST. 1300-1500 LT late last summer. Appear to have risen? Now 800-1000 ST & 1800 LT? Can anyone confirm? Probably be there Friday / Saturday.
Thanks.
Will[/QUOTE]
Manhattans - I would say you were over paying even last August. Even now should be 500-800 ST and 700-1200 LT. Of course this is after 2:00AM, if you try to take someone at 11:00PM there will be very few girls to pick from and they will want a higher price.
Last week when selecting a filipina, negotiations for LT opened with her asking me to name a price. She accepted my 1st offer of 1000rmb instantly. I am sure I could have started lower but I don't like to haggle too much on pricing when I know the general range.
just got back from a weekend in wuxi. its about an hour drive out or a 30 min by high speed rail. did a ktv standard 300/800/1200 fee. 1200 for lt seems like china is getting expensive.
we also hit a "club" with a booking service. it was called &36335; &26131; they have mommies that have girls that work there and sit with you. no take out available with those girls depends on your skill and repeat i guess. but the mommy did have a good service of calling non-pros / semi pros if you would need it.
ended up with a nice department store girl sales girl who was complete gfe. what a sweet heart. did everything was asked and was all gfe. skill could have been desired but a willingness goes a long way.
good luck out there.
so just got back from a weekend in china. i was in wuxi and had a pretty decent time. that being said nightclubs in the middle of nowhere reallyhave "interesting" music. the locals really enjoy it but i was slightly annoyed with the music.
the club is called &36335; &26131; .
the club has a interesting "sitting" service for both men and women. where they provide company for paying guests. some of the girls, i must say were pretty dang hot in their club wear. the girls don't do outcall service so basically its a ktv in a nice dance enviroment where you can dance up on the girl and grind. we had 3 sit with us all were at one time on one of the go-go boxes dancing and could move pretty well. when us guys just wanted to drink we asked them to grind togethor and dance a small show for us to watch. it was kind of fun. they came just short of making out but i think a repeat visit could make it happen. so at the end of the night the interesting thing was our game was not that strong and the girls didn't agree to come out for a midnight snack. this too seems another visit would close the deal since they all gave numbers and asked ifwe wanted to dinner the following night.
then the mommy offers an alternative of nice non pros / semi-pros she has on her speed dial. before we leave 3 girls come up the elevator for us to view. each was available for 1500 for lt. now that is the same as ktv but they ended up being super super gfe. they all had to go to work the next morning which really showed the non-pro situation.
overall a good session bbbj was amateurish but willing to try and took instruction well. tight as anything i've ever had. body was skinny and a littlebony without any boobs but great legs and skin.
looks 7/10.
boobs small a pointy nips.
legs and skin 9/10.
bj skill a 4/10 (willing to try and be instructed but lacked a lot of skill, to expected from a country girl with very working experience)
gfe 9/10 (would give a ten if she good give some decent head)
would repeat? yes i would repeat a few more times would definitely make it fun and her bj skill would improve and talyored to what i like.
btw the club has a website for those interested.
[url]http://www.luyiclub.cn/[/url]
w.
[QUOTE=Makeupaname; 1133602]Manhattans. I would say you were over paying even last August. Even now should be 500-800 ST and 700-1200 LT. Of course this is after 2:00AM, if you try to take someone at 11:00PM there will be very few girls to pick from and they will want a higher price.
Last week when selecting a filipina, negotiations for LT opened with her asking me to name a price. She accepted my 1st offer of 1000rmb instantly. I am sure I could have started lower but I don't like to haggle too much on pricing when I know the general range.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback! Will provide a report when I return. And I will make sure I last past 2 AM! .
Will
Is this hotel girl friendly? It's pretty near Manhattan bar.
In general I'm always uncomfortable in the place because it's always jam packed with other guys. Feels weird to pick out your evening meal in front of everyone.
Two great things about the place though.
- No matter what, it's open, really late. I'm sure it closes eventually, but I don't know when that is.
- You know what you're getting. Saunas are cool, but you don't know what the fishbowl will be until you're committed to choosing. BBS is interesting in that you can have a peak before you really enter, but you don't know the girl's attitude until you're committed there either.
In Manhattan, you can see what you're getting and you can enjoy some chitchat, maybe a drink, and you can let your hands wander and kind of play around. Free of charge. The girls I've taken home have always been the best service from this place. It's nice knowing that if your earlier evening plan goes bust, you can always just swing by manhattans on the way home.
Anyway I dropped by on a whim last night right at 3:45am (Monday night, Tuesday morning) and the place was still pretty much packed. Had a drink and waited for something interesting to approach. Found a cute little thing, did some inspecting and petting. I liked. She did the usual "I cost 1500" and I did the usual chuckle and said 700. 1200? 700. 1000? 700. Ok ok ok. 800 it is. Nope. I said 700. Ok 700 let's go. And we did go. I always worry that after the haggling that the girl will feel a bit of resentment, but once we got home she was totally cool and GFE.
Anyone who's been there knows. It's packed with insanely beautiful viet girls with a minority of everything else.
Anyone that can share any experience about this "site" and it's supply?
Thanks in advance, I'll post a report if I am to try.
[url]http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?cityid=2&lang=en&subcatid=133&view=ads[/url]
What's the modus operandi to get hold of sexy Chinese teachers? Any commonly known websites, magazines?
[QUOTE=Svenne69; 1134233]Anyone that can share any experience about this "site" and it's supply?
Thanks in advance, I'll post a report if I am to try.
[url]http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?cityid=2&lang=en&subcatid=133&view=ads[/url][/QUOTE]I've had this question for a long time.
A few months back I asked the same question and no one answered me.
So I decided to run the pictures through Tineye, most of the pics can be traced to some model / actress / porn star.
In this aspect, it is probably too good to be true if you expect the girl is the same as the picture.
I have not tried these services though. So while it is extremely unlikely you will get that girl, I have no idea whether you would get a girl of the same caliber for better or worse. I have my fingers crossed.
Does anyone know how far bar girls from Manhattan's or wherever would go with you? Suppose your hotel's between inner and middle ring roads. Anyone with this experience?
[QUOTE=Going Low;1133949]Is this hotel girl friendly? It's pretty near Manhattan bar.[/QUOTE]Yup. I stayed there about 4 months back. Problem is that in order to get into the lift lobby from the reception, you need a card to access it. Funnily there is a security guard in the day with an appointment book out in the day but around 11am when I returned with company, no one was there.
Anyhow they even slide massage cards under the door so you know you can get service in the hotel.
Thanks Carage,
Just what I expected. (Tineye)
Better to do the mongering in the bar and decide for yourself.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1134288]I've had this question for a long time.
A few months back I asked the same question and no one answered me.
So I decided to run the pictures through Tineye, most of the pics can be traced to some model / actress / porn star.
In this aspect, it is probably too good to be true if you expect the girl is the same as the picture.
I have not tried these services though. So while it is extremely unlikely you will get that girl, I have no idea whether you would get a girl of the same caliber for better or worse. I have my fingers crossed. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nail The World;1134258]What's the modus operandi to get hold of sexy Chinese teachers? Any commonly known websites, magazines?[/QUOTE]Probably much better places to look, but when I first got to I just used craigslist. My ad actually mentioned that I was looking for cute female teachers. When they emailed me, I requested pics and most of them complied. Of course I also got a bunch of email from the local schools trying to get me to come by.
[QUOTE=Svenne69; 1134233]Anyone that can share any experience about this "site" and it's supply?
Thanks in advance, I'll post a report if I am to try.
[url]http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?cityid=2&lang=en&subcatid=133&view=ads[/url][/QUOTE]Yeahh, sometimes when I want to read the chinadaily. Com. Cn, I forget the. Cn and get this site. Very clever, now I clicked on gilr n4 4 (Yanyan) and saw following enticing text : ". I will work like a machine without emotions and help you to enjoy a very nice session of massage." Seems like true GFE!
Cheers
I've wanted to try this place for a while, but the first couple of times I went I couldn't find it despite having the address.
The reason is that google maps has the location wrong. Most websites that have a "map it" feature just plug into one of the mapping api's and they all seem to get this address slightly different, and mostly wrong. Ctrip has the right location.
It's a weird place to finally have found.
The location is 1245 LongYang, but that mostly won't help you unless you know it's the cross streets of LongYang and YangGao. And. LongYang is a freeway / highway. The front of the hotel actually opens to the freeway. I thought that was weird. To get to it, you're basically walking along the freeway.
Once you get there it's just the little door to the left of the main entrance like the other posts say.
The experience was a lot different from Sacrosa. I'm not sure if I like it. Will have to try again. The girls are definitely more plentiful, with much better looking girls, too. But the whole song and dance they do was kind of boring. They bathe you. Then they catbath your entire body. I guess some people like that, but I've never once been tempted to ask my girlfriend to bathe me or to lick my back. To each their own I guess.
Anyway. After she was done doing her thing I got some AR (very nice) , BBBJ, then 69 and more BBBJ. Then various usual positions for the main event. She was really nice throughout, but not GFE. Nothing special though. She was number #529. Tattoos of roses on her tits. Cute girl.
Damage. 800
[QUOTE=Why So Serious; 1134326]Yup. I stayed there about 4 months back. Problem is that in order to get into the lift lobby from the reception, you need a card to access it. Funnily there is a security guard in the day with an appointment book out in the day but around 11am when I returned with company, no one was there.
Anyhow they even slide massage cards under the door so you know you can get service in the hotel. [/QUOTE]Cool, I will report later what happened on my one week stay.
I was there a few months ago and the Sauna was still closed from the Expo. I'm about to go back and was thinking about staying there again. Does anyone know when the Sauna is reopening? I forgot to pay closer attention to the note on the elevator. I tried to call but the staff do not understand me as I do not speak Mandarin.
Or if anyone who can speak Mandarin can call and ask for me that would be greatly appreciated. Their number should be [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
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[QUOTE=Tasss;1134297]Does anyone know how far bar girls from Manhattan's or wherever would go with you? Suppose your hotel's between inner and middle ring roads. Anyone with this experience?[/QUOTE]I live way the hell out in Minhang and it's been no problem.
the first thing you should know is the address. it's 777 siping lu or &22235; &24179; &36335; 777&21495; in chinese characters. my taxi driver had no trouble finding it. the place is on the corner of a building. there is a restaurant there as well, but go to the open, rounded corner entranceway. you'll see a guy waiting in those chinese silk pajamas by the elevator. the whole entrance is black.
when you get upstairs, nobody seems to speak english. but they'll give you an electronic wrist-band and take you to a changing / waiting room. the lockers contain a safe, a little bag with neck cord for your mobile, a plastic bag for your stuff when you're in the shower, a robe and plastic sandals.
i wasn't really sure what to do, so i did what was obvious and stripped down to nothing and put on the robe. you won't need any money until the end, so don't bother carrying any. for the generous types out there, the girls don't take tips.
after putting on the robe, go take a shower. there are two doors to your changing room. the number of the room is written on your wrist-band and on the doors (my room was 21, my locker 1, so my wristband said 21-1). go through the door you did not come in through and you'll see a red hallway, with red carpets. follow the sound of water to the showers. it's a maze in there, so pay attention to where you're going.
when you get to the shower room, there are attendants who will take your robe and stuff and lock it up, giving you the key. you can take a shower, a sauna, or a soak in a big tub (which i avoided). after the shower go back to the boys. you'll see a towel guy who will hand you a tiny towel. you should take off your sandals and stand on the towels on the ground facing away from him. he'll dry your back, but you need to take care of the front.
hand the guy your key, put on your robe and collect your stuff. time to return to your waiting / changing room. if you forgot the way, just show somebody your wrist band and jabber in english. they'll figure it out.
once you've returned to your room, you can order some food, watch tv, smoke or order a massage. the menu's explain the prices. i spent 698 rmb for the 90 minutes special and some food. it was 100 rmb to little when looking at the menu, i should have paid 798. i have no idea why this happened.
there are little service buttons on the walls. if you press one, an attendant will come in and you can point at the menu to get your message across. if you ask for a massage, you'll have to wait again. eventually somebody will come and take you to the line-up. they call you by number, so if they come in and call a number and nobody else stands up, just get up and go. that will be your cue.
the line-up consisted of 8 girls. i picked 322. it was a good choice. she is very skinny, but very pretty and puts on a great show. she did what i understand to be the usual. cat bath, bbbj, rj. 69, daty, allowed a finger in as well. it was thoroughly enjoyable. she did a kind of vacuum cleaner thing with her mouth over my body that i cannot really describe.
now here i offer you some advice. i am well-endowed. to be honest, this has been more of a curse than a blessing in my life. getting a girl to do anal is something of a miracle and blow-jobs often result in teeth scraping across my sensitive real-estate. the problem here was, the girl had the smallest condoms i've ever seen. i usually bring my own, but had forgotten them. it took a herculean effort to get it on, and it was not particularly comfortable. her bj efforts were admirable and she seemed to want to make it up to me. if you are even a bit above average, hell if you're average, take your own with you.
after finishing up (two pops in my case) , you'll be escorted by the girl back to the showers to clean up. from here, it's up to you. either wash, rinse, repeat or head home. when you want into your locker, you have to call an attendant. it takes two wrist-bands to open the lockers. they'll collect your money at the desk and call you a taxi if you ask for one.
this was my first sauna experience. i will be repeating it, likely also at one of the other famous establishments of shanghai. i hope my tips can help you come off niubi instead of nooby. good luck out there.
[QUOTE=Norm Deploom;1134813]Once you've returned to your room, you can order some food, watch tv, smoke or order a massage. The menu's explain the prices. I spent 698 RMB for the 90 minutes special and some food. It was 100 RMB to little when looking at the menu, I should have paid 798. I have no idea why this happened.[/QUOTE]Good complete report. 698RMB before 19:00 I believe then it goes up 100. I could be wrong on the time but think that is it. Were you there early?
Cal8
I have not seen any reports about crackdowns anymore or at least for a long time.
I had no problems during expo and last time in January (wuzhong lu, manhatten) I was in SH.
Anyone else still sees / feels any crack down problems?
Well, after I have found this interesting place and be helpful of every informations here, I would like to spent my experience I had a few days ago, with a massage place!
Be passion, it is my first report here!
I don't know exactly, if this place was here mentioned before, but I remember to read here a lot about the Nan Dan Dong Lu! (Well, I never thought, it would be so much happen there.)
Anyhow, the place I like to introduce is at the Nan Dan Dan Dong Lu cross Cao Xi Bei lu!
The Address is:
Baihui Massage Salon.
378-1 Nan Dan Dong Lu.
(For the Taxi Driver tell him only: Xuhui. Nan Dan Dong Lu / Cao Xi Bei Lu) get out at the cross, walk 50m and you will found it! You are totally on the right side, if you see the entrance of a store for "breast care" (I never thought to see such an advertisement here in Shanghai, rep. I China.) maybe 5m away from the entrance and on the left side of the street you see the "Harley's Bar"! (I hope, I was detailed enough?)
But, I have to say, that there are two massage place entrances! It's a little bit tricky for the first time! If you come from the cross, I mentioned before, take the first entrance! If you are lucky, a Chinese gentleman will talk with you in english!
Anyhow!
My first intention was, to go to a "normal" massage place at 23:00 (the second entrance. I was there before two times) , but when I went in to the second floor, a bunch of men tried to tell me what kind of massage I need, and when I decided, what I really want, they told me that they cannot do it, nobody there! So I was totally frustrated!
Ok, I went out of this place and went directly in the next door! The gentleman (I mentioned before) offered me very friendly the massage services they have and showed me the way to the second floor to a next english speaking friendly man! I told him, that I like to have a 90 min relaxing Full Body Oil Massage!
He told me that it would be a little bit busy around here, and asked me to wait for a moment! OK, the wait was than already 45 minutes, but he offered me all the times something to drink, from tea, soft drinks, even beer! I felt very comfortable! I took the tea!
Enough intro now.
After 45 minutes, a sweet, little petite woman (I mention the age, beginning 20. Maybe wrong?) , woman offered me to follow in a small (1, 5 x 2, 5 "huge") and clean room!
After changing in this "wonderful" shorts I lay down, she came in and started a very wonderful oil massage at my neck and back! After a couple of time, she asked me first of extending the massage service from 90 to 120 minutes (would cost me than 260 RMB) I accepted and meanwhile we had a little english small talk! After she finished with the back massage (I felt totally relaxed) , I turned around, and than she whispered in my ears, if I would like to have a HE, I accepted also, and she started to pretend 300 for the service, but smiled at me when I offered her only 200! She accepted and directly started to turn down my shorts and started to fondle my best part in a way I never thought it could happen! She started slowly with her soft hands and also played with her fingernails on him, that I had the feeling, it would be very fast over! But she was mentioning the situation, and let him come down a little but, to start the game on and on! I was thinking, that he would be bigger and bigger, after the feeling of at least 20 minutes, she let him come, in a way I never had before! Even she was surprised, than she cleaned everything with a fresh and warmed towel!
After this "firework", she finished the rest of the massage, also very softly and gentle!
When the massage was finished, I changing my close and gave her the 200 RMB and she accompanied me to the frond desk, she gave me her card, I paid and left the place with a very big smile in my face!
So, total "damage" 460 RMB.
Here now the important information: Her working number is 6.
And second,"Yes" I will come back and like to feel this again!
Well, gentle as I was, I never touched her! But I think I will ask and try it the next time or after this! Maybe a thing of trust to each other. We will see and let you know.
OK, that was it! I know, a lot of text, for such "a small thing", but I never had this kind of "Firework-HE" in my life!
I hope and wish, who ever would go there and have the chance to catch No. 6, that he would also have this kind of Firework-HE, like I had!
So, in this case, see you till my next experience.
The Nighthawk.
[QUOTE=Nail The World;1134258]What's the modus operandi to get hold of sexy Chinese teachers? Any commonly known websites, magazines?[/QUOTE]Why don't you try grammer school and work your way up to College?
Are you kidding?
PC out
[QUOTE=The Nighthawk; 1134996]Well, after I have found this interesting place and be helpful of every informations here, I would like to spent my experience I had a few days ago, with a massage place!
Be passion, it is my first report here!
I don't know exactly, if this place was here mentioned before, but I remember to read here a lot about the Nan Dan Dong Lu! (Well, I never thought, it would be so much happen there.)
Anyhow, the place I like to introduce is at the Nan Dan Dan Dong Lu cross Cao Xi Bei lu!
The Address is:
Baihui Massage Salon.
378-1 Nan Dan Dong Lu.
(For the Taxi Driver tell him only: Xuhui. Nan Dan Dong Lu / Cao Xi Bei Lu) get out at the cross, walk 50m and you will found it! You are totally on the right side, if you see the entrance of a store for "breast care" (I never thought to see such an advertisement here in Shanghai, rep. I China.) maybe 5m away from the entrance and on the left side of the street you see the "Harley's Bar"! (I hope, I was detailed enough?)
But, I have to say, that there are two massage place entrances! It's a little bit tricky for the first time! If you come from the cross, I mentioned before, take the first entrance! If you are lucky, a Chinese gentleman will talk with you in english!
Anyhow!
My first intention was, to go to a "normal" massage place at 23:00 (the second entrance. I was there before two times) , but when I went in to the second floor, a bunch of men tried to tell me what kind of massage I need, and when I decided, what I really want, they told me that they cannot do it, nobody there! So I was totally frustrated!
Ok, I went out of this place and went directly in the next door! The gentleman (I mentioned before) offered me very friendly the massage services they have and showed me the way to the second floor to a next english speaking friendly man! I told him, that I like to have a 90 min relaxing Full Body Oil Massage!
He told me that it would be a little bit busy around here, and asked me to wait for a moment! OK, the wait was than already 45 minutes, but he offered me all the times something to drink, from tea, soft drinks, even beer! I felt very comfortable! I took the tea!
Enough intro now.
After 45 minutes, a sweet, little petite woman (I mention the age, beginning 20. Maybe wrong?) , woman offered me to follow in a small (1, 5 x 2, 5 "huge") and clean room!
After changing in this "wonderful" shorts I lay down, she came in and started a very wonderful oil massage at my neck and back! After a couple of time, she asked me first of extending the massage service from 90 to 120 minutes (would cost me than 260 RMB) I accepted and meanwhile we had a little english small talk! After she finished with the back massage (I felt totally relaxed) , I turned around, and than she whispered in my ears, if I would like to have a HE, I accepted also, and she started to pretend 300 for the service, but smiled at me when I offered her only 200! She accepted and directly started to turn down my shorts and started to fondle my best part in a way I never thought it could happen! She started slowly with her soft hands and also played with her fingernails on him, that I had the feeling, it would be very fast over! But she was mentioning the situation, and let him come down a little but, to start the game on and on! I was thinking, that he would be bigger and bigger, after the feeling of at least 20 minutes, she let him come, in a way I never had before! Even she was surprised, than she cleaned everything with a fresh and warmed towel!
After this "firework", she finished the rest of the massage, also very softly and gentle!
When the massage was finished, I changing my close and gave her the 200 RMB and she accompanied me to the frond desk, she gave me her card, I paid and left the place with a very big smile in my face!
So, total "damage" 460 RMB.
Here now the important information: Her working number is 6.
And second,"Yes" I will come back and like to feel this again!
Well, gentle as I was, I never touched her! But I think I will ask and try it the next time or after this! Maybe a thing of trust to each other. We will see and let you know.
OK, that was it! I know, a lot of text, for such "a small thing", but I never had this kind of "Firework-HE" in my life!
I hope and wish, who ever would go there and have the chance to catch No. 6, that he would also have this kind of Firework-HE, like I had!
So, in this case, see you till my next experience.
The Nighthawk. [/QUOTE]Nighthawk,
Nice report but you got taken however if your fine with it all then its all good. Usually, these legit massage places, the girls don't accept tips. She shanghaied you per say.
PC out
[QUOTE=Tasss;1134297]Does anyone know how far bar girls from Manhattan's or wherever would go with you? Suppose your hotel's between inner and middle ring roads. Anyone with this experience?[/QUOTE]I have pulled them all the way to pudong. Just got to pay their bus fare back.
Thanks for your answer. The initial response I got from esoteric gentleman was a pointer in right direction. You could have made better use of cyberspace by not using it at all. But thanks for trying anyway.
PC out or in who gives a jack.
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1135164]Why don't you try grammer school and work your way up to College?
Are you kidding?
PC out[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Stranger604; 1134735]. . . . . Does anyone know when the Sauna is reopening? I forgot to pay closer attention to the note on the elevator. I tried to call but the staff do not understand me as I do not speak Mandarin.
Or if anyone who can speak Mandarin can call and ask for me that would be greatly appreciated. Their number should be [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]
[u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited or deleted to [u]remove personal telephone numbers[/u]. Please do not post personal telephone numbers in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you for this information directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. [i]Thanks! [/i][/blue][/QUOTE]Maybe "the robotic editor" did not recognize that the phone number was not personal but of the sauna. Worth putting it again in a way it does not appear as a phone number.
BTW: it is a useful phone number for the scope of this forum!
Took a friend over to Bodi tonight to introduce him to China style FS massage.
We got there around 7pm. MO was slightly different from normal. They gave us the little white robes in the locker room and then ushered us straight away to the fish bowl, which was packed. Two rows lf ladies, each row extending from one wall to the other. Choices, choices. No obvious 8 or 9s so I chose a girl from Anhui who made good eye contact and gave a shy smile. My friend chose after and he was going for one of the very tall girls, but then he's tall himself.
My Anhui girl, can't remember her number, like 359 or something, turned out to provide very mediocre service. No DFK, no AR, and only a 4 at BBBJ skill. For Boom-boom she really wanted just to do mish so didn't seem happy when I didn't cum right away and made her do multiple positions. I ended up pulling out and then finishing on her stomach.
Surprisingly, she asked for my hp number so although I thought twice about it I gave it to her anyway with the hope she will want to come over to my place on an off night and will be a better performer.
My friend finished same time as me as I saw him being escorted down the hall to the elevator as I exited. He told me his girl followed a set routine a bit too much to his liking. He also told me she said she gets 200rmb per customer, so the house takes 600.
As usual, total damage was 800.
After the "massage" at Bodi and then dinner, it was still reasonably eary and having both biked and run earlier in the day was sore enough to want a regular massage so went to a legit massage place near my house. HE is hit or miss here, usually more hit than miss, but the real reason to go to this place is the massage.
I picked a girl that is about a 3 or 4 in looks but has strong hands. I've had her maybe 5. 6 times now, never asked for her, just she was the next available on those days. The first 3-4 times there was no HE with her but the last 2 times she has been very naughty. I'm tired and half-asleep, so looks aren't what I'm after.
Anyway, she does the back massage and then instead of moving to the legs she moves to my butt; pulls the baggy blue shorts all the way off and does a really nice job there, at least 15 mins alternating between hard and soft. Time to roll over and she does my chest and stomach and plays with my nipples, which doesn't do anything for me but I don't want to spoil her fun. Then she moves to my little brother, pulling my legs apart and sitting cross-legged between them. Here she does another fantastic job. Keeping me on the edge for at least 15mins. She's really into it too, putting her mouth just cms. Away. I think she wants to do the BJ so maybe next time I'll push her head down, LOL. So finally, release, but then she still does more regular massage. A good provider. Not a gal I would want for FS, but for HE massage, she's alright.
I gave her 100rmb to show her I appreciated the personal attention and she seemed very happy with that.
[QUOTE=California8; 1134818]Good complete report. 698RMB before 19:00 I believe then it goes up 100. I could be wrong on the time but think that is it. Were you there early?
Cal8[/QUOTE]Last time I was there (I wrote a report on it a few weeks back) they said it was 798, but only 698 if I do not take the receipt. Makes no fucking sense to me, but neither do half the things going on in the Chinese mind, to borrow a phrase from a friend. That was later at night, well after 19:00.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1134469]I've wanted to try this place for a while, but the first couple of times I went I couldn't find it despite having the address.
The reason is that google maps has the location wrong. Most websites that have a "map it" feature just plug into one of the mapping api's and they all seem to get this address slightly different, and mostly wrong. Ctrip has the right location.[/QUOTE]My experience is that google maps is pretty close if you are just in map mode, but if you have the satellite view on, it's off by a few blocks to the east and south. You can verify by toggling between the two views, you'll see it centers on a different location by a fair distance.
Anyone else have the same, or a different experience?
I have looked through the forum but can't find an address for 'Bodi'.
Can anyone help?
[QUOTE=Msukc;1135262]I have pulled them all the way to pudong. Just got to pay their bus fare back.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ira Johnson;1134794]I live way the hell out in Minhang and it's been no problem.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. Also this forum is full of reports of Bodi, Sacrosa and Heting. I'd imagine these places are packed with white dudes now. Kinda looking for something more local. Any suggestions? I've tried Rehai on the Mu Qiao Road in the past, not bad, price is around 700 or so.
[QUOTE=Tasss;1135561]Thanks guys. Also this forum is full of reports of Bodi, Sacrosa and Heting. I'd imagine these places are packed with white dudes now. Kinda looking for something more local. Any suggestions? I've tried Rehai on the Mu Qiao Road in the past, not bad, price is around 700 or so.[/QUOTE]Hi, could you tell us more about Rehai? What's on the menu?
Thanks, I have the opposite problem, my gear's gps track is accurate in the satellite view, and inaccurate in the map view. Google Map (no GPS) seems pretty close though.
[QUOTE=Shmitty; 1135517]My experience is that google maps is pretty close if you are just in map mode, but if you have the satellite view on, it's off by a few blocks to the east and south. You can verify by toggling between the two views, you'll see it centers on a different location by a fair distance.
Anyone else have the same, or a different experience? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mike666;1135562]Hi, could you tell us more about Rehai? What's on the menu?[/QUOTE]Search for my post on 10-04-10.
[QUOTE=Dante28; 1135524]I have looked through the forum but can't find an address for 'Bodi'.
Can anyone help? [/QUOTE]Hi Dante28,
I read the forum and did some research, and the best one I could find is:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=14251185227733570372&q=Sacrosa[/url]+Club, +shanghai&hl=en&sll=31. 199923, 121. 525513&sspn=0. 071946, 0.071946&ie=UTF8&ll=31. 267107, 121. 371117&spn=0, 0&z=12.
It's the link to the Bodi hotel, I think the SN is next to it. Other seasoned members of the forum can advise.
Cheers,
Staid
You can get to Bodi without talking to anyone. I goofed and walked part-way there, then walked back to the station before I realized I didn't walk far enough. It takes about 10 minutes to walk there from the station, but it is not difficult, nor did I find it risky.
Bodi is rather simple to find, just stick to the directions. The subway is very easy to use and faster than a taxi. The subway ticket machines have an English mode in the upper right corner. From there, it's just a matter of entering a few coins or a small bill for a single ride ticket.
Line 6 to Shanghai Childrens Medical Center.
Exit 2 and turn left. You'll be heading south on Dongfang road.
At the intersection (below the elevated road) , turn left and follow the sidewalk (you're now on Longyang Road)
You'll walk a long way on this sideway.
When the sidewalk curves back north, you'll have to keep going along Longyang by walking under the underpass.
Keep hugging Lognyang Road and Bodi will be a short walk. Address 1245 Longyang.
Remember to enter on the door left of the main entrance.
I like bigger tits than the usual B- or C-cup. Difficult to find. Are the busty white skinned girls from the web pages of escort service all fake or do they exist somewhere in Shanghai? Pvt me if you can give a hint where to find (999, Bodi, girl working number?)
Sacrosa report: 19:00. Nice line up of 12. 15 girls. I checked breast size, tried to deduct the push-up bra effect and finally choose #257.
They choise is right if you like bouncing tits: nice C to D cup, gravity starts to take its toll. Good BBBJ, nice massage, FS different position, she's not a good actor because overdo fake moaning. However she seems to be one of the more experienced.
[QUOTE=Staid Lo; 1135597]Hi Dante28,
I read the forum and did some research, and the best one I could find is:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=14251185227733570372&q=Sacrosa[/url]
+Club, +shanghai&hl=en&sll=31. 199923, 121. 525513&sspn=0. 071946, 0.071946&ie=UTF8&ll=31. 267107, 121. 371117&spn=0, 0&z=12.
It's the link to the Bodi hotel, I think the SN is next to it. Other seasoned members of the forum can advise.
Cheers,
Staid[/QUOTE]Oh wow, Didn't realise it was a hotel.
Thanks. So do I just walk into the hotel and go to the sauna or do I need to book a room? What's the usual protocol there?
[QUOTE=Staid Lo; 1135597]Hi Dante28,
I read the forum and did some research, and the best one I could find is:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=14251185227733570372&q=Sacrosa[/url]
+Club, +shanghai&hl=en&sll=31. 199923, 121. 525513&sspn=0. 071946, 0.071946&ie=UTF8&ll=31. 267107, 121. 371117&spn=0, 0&z=12.
It's the link to the Bodi hotel, I think the SN is next to it. Other seasoned members of the forum can advise.
Cheers,
Staid[/QUOTE]Now this makes sense and it is clearer.
So Bodi is nothing else than Sacrosa located nearby.
In that case I have a biz card taken ages ago from here and I hope it is still current.
I attach it.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]148240[/ATTACH]
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Dante28; 1135643]Oh wow, Didn't realise it was a hotel.
Thanks. So do I just walk into the hotel and go to the sauna or do I need to book a room? What's the usual protocol there? [/QUOTE]They are separately operated.
Hotel has one entrance, the sauna has another.
Last I heard there is no internal passage between the hotel and sauna.
Sauna customers don't need to do anything at the hotel.
Sacrosa #268 Sichuan girl with C cups.
[QUOTE=Vincent P; 1135614]I like bigger tits than the usual B- or C-cup. Difficult to find. Are the busty white skinned girls from the web pages of escort service all fake or do they exist somewhere in Shanghai? Pvt me if you can give a hint where to find (999, Bodi, girl working number?)
Sacrosa report: 19:00. Nice line up of 12. 15 girls. I checked breast size, tried to deduct the push-up bra effect and finally choose #257.
They choise is right if you like bouncing tits: nice C to D cup, gravity starts to take its toll. Good BBBJ, nice massage, FS different position, she's not a good actor because overdo fake moaning. However she seems to be one of the more experienced. [/QUOTE]
Vincent, plse get in touch with me, we can share info, I am also in the same type of girls.
[QUOTE=Vincent P; 1135614]I like bigger tits than the usual B- or C-cup. Difficult to find. Are the busty white skinned girls from the web pages of escort service all fake or do they exist somewhere in Shanghai? Pvt me if you can give a hint where to find (999, Bodi, girl working number?)
Sacrosa report: 19:00. Nice line up of 12. 15 girls. I checked breast size, tried to deduct the push-up bra effect and finally choose #257.
They choise is right if you like bouncing tits: nice C to D cup, gravity starts to take its toll. Good BBBJ, nice massage, FS different position, she's not a good actor because overdo fake moaning. However she seems to be one of the more experienced. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tasss;1135561]Thanks guys. Also this forum is full of reports of Bodi, Sacrosa and Heting. I'd imagine these places are packed with white dudes now. Kinda looking for something more local. Any suggestions? I've tried Rehai on the Mu Qiao Road in the past, not bad, price is around 700 or so.[/QUOTE]Every time I've been to these places, I've never seen another white dude anywhere. Always locals, Koreans, or Japanese. I'd say these places are still "local" experiences.
Been a while since I've been in Shanghai and spent a few hours going through reports back to Oct or so of last year. Thanks guys! Though, wondering if anyone else has had problems with the search function. Typed in "999" and got zero hits. Same thing with other usual suspects like "Shanghai Hotel" and "Sacrosa". I mean, see'mon, how does "Shanghai Hotel" return zero hits?
Anyway, decided on Heting on Siping Lu. Used to be a frequent visitor of Shanghai Hotel (yes, it's been a while) so the lack of a common rest area left me a little confused. Went for shower and was looking for common area afterwards. Dude took me back to original room where I changed.
There was a line up of around 10-15 girls. All pretty average. Mostly short and chubby faced. Ended up picking #322, the only one who wasn't short and chubby faced. Service was pretty good. It's been a while so the "standard" service was a real treat this time. Noticed that the skin around her elbows was pretty dry. And then also noticed same thing around her knees. Mentioned to her that her skin was very dry and she said it was because her elbows and knees got that way from rubbing up against the towels while performing services. Huh, go figure. Hadn't noticed anything like that before.
Agree that the decoration is pretty nice. Though jacuzzi didn't look terribly clean (so didn't go in) and dry sauna wasn't hot enough.
Most interesting thing really was when I went to pay the bill, price on bill was 798. But only 698 if I didn't need an official receipt or a "fapiao". Which got me to wondering. Who needs a fapiao from a sauna? Is the value of a fapaio really 12. 5% of the face value? Don't know what is the corporate tax rate in China. Ok, so probably more than 12. 5. But doesn't claiming a fapiao from a sauna sort of blow your cover? Or maybe that's the cover for this sauna. To look like a legit business (obviously, I passed on the fapiao and took the 100rmb discount so didn't see what the official name was). Or maybe they just wanted you to feel like you got a discount off the regular price?
Debating on whether to try 999 or Bodi tomorrow.
I'm totally new to this since its my first time to China. I, was at ningbo for the the first night. We stay at Howard Johnson. Went to KTV inside the hotel, had lots of fun. When we are about to leave, mama come in to tell me that this girk is not for take out. I was surprise because she say she will come to my room. Anyways she did come to my room and we had fun all night til I have to leave at 7am. Thrbwierd thing is I didn't get to finish my load but it wad a really nice GFE. Then I left and she didn't even ask for a thing. I guess she just likes me. Next morning I go to shanghai, she seems sad b7 I tell her when I'm free, I will let her know and she can go to shanghai to see me. Guess what, I call her today and she is coming on Wednesday night since since I'm flying back to Taiwan on Friday. I think this time at least l should give her something for the transportation right? She is just a cute girl and the most GFE that I have ever met. I will let you know what we do when she arrive shanghai. I'm just so Damn lucky. She's just cute with perfect body. Slim with some ass and the most innocent look on her smile. Duck. Can't wait til she arrive.
[QUOTE=Tasss;1135595]Search for my post on 10-04-10.[/QUOTE]Hey Tasss,
Thanks for your report on Rehai.
I'm very interested and if you don't mind could you please pass me on the location of the place?
A million thanks
You're right, makes finding Sacrosa tough if you use satellite view only. Use the street view, study the shapes of streets then switch to satellite and look for those shapes. SCrewy I agree.
[QUOTE=Shmitty; 1135517]My experience is that google maps is pretty close if you are just in map mode, but if you have the satellite view on, it's off by a few blocks to the east and south. You can verify by toggling between the two views, you'll see it centers on a different location by a fair distance.
Anyone else have the same, or a different experience?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Neuromancer; 1136202]Most interesting thing really was when I went to pay the bill, price on bill was 798. But only 698 if I didn't need an official receipt or a "fapiao". Which got me to wondering. Who needs a fapiao from a sauna? Is the value of a fapaio really 12. 5% of the face value? Don't know what is the corporate tax rate in China. Ok, so probably more than 12. 5. But doesn't claiming a fapiao from a sauna sort of blow your cover? Or maybe that's the cover for this sauna. To look like a legit business (obviously, I passed on the fapiao and took the 100rmb discount so didn't see what the official name was). Or maybe they just wanted you to feel like you got a discount off the regular price?
Debating on whether to try 999 or Bodi tomorrow. [/QUOTE]Well, some employers or supervisors are pretty liberal when it comes to "business expenses".
"Entertainment" is still considered a genuine way of getting business done in many parts of Asia.
So they might get reimbursed or subsidized.
Some employees just take advantage of such policies, even when they go alone.
Besides it is unlikely the business entity on the receipt is the sauna.
If I remember correctly. 999 fapiao is given in the name of a restaurant.
Bodi's is even more creative, it's called an investment company.
[QUOTE=Snoopy1112;1136211]I'm totally new to this since its my first time to China. I, was at ningbo for the the first night. We stay at Howard Johnson. Went to KTV inside the hotel, had lots of fun. When we are about to leave, mama come in to tell me that this girk is not for take out. I was surprise because she say she will come to my room. Anyways she did come to my room and we had fun all night til I have to leave at 7am. Thrbwierd thing is I didn't get to finish my load but it wad a really nice GFE. Then I left and she didn't even ask for a thing. I guess she just likes me. Next morning I go to shanghai, she seems sad b7 I tell her when I'm free, I will let her know and she can go to shanghai to see me. Guess what, I call her today and she is coming on Wednesday night since since I'm flying back to Taiwan on Friday. I think this time at least l should give her something for the transportation right? She is just a cute girl and the most GFE that I have ever met. I will let you know what we do when she arrive shanghai. I'm just so Damn lucky. She's just cute with perfect body. Slim with some ass and the most innocent look on her smile. Duck. Can't wait til she arrive.[/QUOTE]If you want a GFE treat her like a girlfriend. Do not be cheap. The least you can do is pay for her trip and treat her to nice meals.
[QUOTE=Yellowfinger;1136332]I'm very interested and if you don't mind could you please pass me on the location of the place?[/QUOTE]Oops, I posted it on 10-6 not 10-4. You might be able to ignore the warning I posted that day now because apparently the Expo-timeframe crackdown is over? Or is it?
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1077179#post1077179[/url]
[QUOTE=Snoopy1112;1136211]I'm totally new to this since its my first time to China. I, was at ningbo for the the first night. We stay at Howard Johnson. Went to KTV inside the hotel, had lots of fun. When we are about to leave, mama come in to tell me that this girk is not for take out. I was surprise because she say she will come to my room. Anyways she did come to my room and we had fun all night til I have to leave at 7am. Thrbwierd thing is I didn't get to finish my load but it wad a really nice GFE. Then I left and she didn't even ask for a thing. I guess she just likes me. Next morning I go to shanghai, she seems sad b7 I tell her when I'm free, I will let her know and she can go to shanghai to see me. Guess what, I call her today and she is coming on Wednesday night since since I'm flying back to Taiwan on Friday. I think this time at least l should give her something for the transportation right? She is just a cute girl and the most GFE that I have ever met. I will let you know what we do when she arrive shanghai. I'm just so Damn lucky. She's just cute with perfect body. Slim with some ass and the most innocent look on her smile. Duck. Can't wait til she arrive.[/QUOTE]Good luck my man.
There's really no such thing as a freebie. Take her out to some nice places for chow, day trip and tour. If you ask for small stuff, what the hell, just buy her some. It'll be interested if she really just wants a friend or this builds to something like "money for sick mother" or "money for debt back home". Enjoy it while it last.
Ok, so went to check out 999 the other day. It's a little nicer than Heting and has a fishbowl which Heting doesn't. Also has soapy. So I suppose which one is better really depends on your preferences. Again, around 10 girls in the bowl, all mostly sort of average as with Heting.
Chose 859 because she was very "bai" so to speak (pale skin). Looked more attractive upon casual glance through the fishbowl, but up close was also just so-so. The soapy was sort of interesting. Rubbed my feet against her breasts. Hadn't experienced that before. Also, she tried to upsell the two girl thing which I politely refused.
Afterwards, went back to the lounge to relax a bit. Ordered a shoulder massage and then a footie. Funny, I think they need to give ME a little commission since the other dudes in the room saw what I ordered and followed. And actually, I think the non-FS providers there were a little more attractive than the girls in the bowl. The girl giving me the shoulder massage was a little bit chubby, but really cute face and personality. Saw another dude getting an ear waxing from a smoking hot girl. When I ordered the footie, I had assumed that it would end with the middle foot. But she kept going in the main room, on my regular two feet. All the while wondering, hmmm, is it SOP for the girls to jack guys off in front of all the other dudes (doesn't personally bother me. Pretty common at 18 sauna down in Macau). Eventually, she told me to get up to go to another room. Aha! In the private room, explained that they didn't have that many private rooms for the "middle foot massage" so the normal footie was just waiting time.
Only two tries, but seems like Shanghai is not the same. Enjoyed Shanghai Hotel and also this other place (can't remember the name. On Zhaojiabang Road) much more than Heting and 999. With Expo over. Maybe the operating environment will loosen up and new shops will open up, creating more competition.
Also, wondering if the reason all the smoking hot chicks have mostly deserted the sauna scene is that the higher end of the market (ie KTV, escort sort of stuff) has moved upwards and become bigger, drawing away supply from the saunas? Just speculation on my part.
Which places in Shanghai can you recommend for good looking freelancers?
[QUOTE=Neuromancer; 1137229]Ok, so went to check out 999 the other day. It's a little nicer than Heting and has a fishbowl which Heting doesn't. Also has soapy. So I suppose which one is better really depends on your preferences. Again, around 10 girls in the bowl, all mostly sort of average as with Heting.
Chose 859 because she was very "bai" so to speak (pale skin). Looked more attractive upon casual glance through the fishbowl, but up close was also just so-so. The soapy was sort of interesting. Rubbed my feet against her breasts. Hadn't experienced that before. Also, she tried to upsell the two girl thing which I politely refused.
Afterwards, went back to the lounge to relax a bit. Ordered a shoulder massage and then a footie. Funny, I think they need to give ME a little commission since the other dudes in the room saw what I ordered and followed. And actually, I think the non-FS providers there were a little more attractive than the girls in the bowl. The girl giving me the shoulder massage was a little bit chubby, but really cute face and personality. Saw another dude getting an ear waxing from a smoking hot girl. When I ordered the footie, I had assumed that it would end with the middle foot. But she kept going in the main room, on my regular two feet. All the while wondering, hmmm, is it SOP for the girls to jack guys off in front of all the other dudes (doesn't personally bother me. Pretty common at 18 sauna down in Macau). Eventually, she told me to get up to go to another room. Aha! In the private room, explained that they didn't have that many private rooms for the "middle foot massage" so the normal footie was just waiting time.
Only two tries, but seems like Shanghai is not the same. Enjoyed Shanghai Hotel and also this other place (can't remember the name. On Zhaojiabang Road) much more than Heting and 999. With Expo over. Maybe the operating environment will loosen up and new shops will open up, creating more competition.
Also, wondering if the reason all the smoking hot chicks have mostly deserted the sauna scene is that the higher end of the market (ie KTV, escort sort of stuff) has moved upwards and become bigger, drawing away supply from the saunas? Just speculation on my part. [/QUOTE]It sounds like you visited at a rather busy time, perhaps the experience would be better if there were less customers.
I typically go there around 2PM, personally I think that is the best time to go. Usually at the time all girls should be present in the bowl, and there are not many customers. I would expect a lineup of 20+ at that time.
When you finish the "massage", it is almost guaranteed you can get a private resting room.
Maybe you could get a super hot ear lady to give you another hand as well.
I haven't been there for three months, so I am speaking from experience here. Not sure if there is new rules/new management or whatever going on now.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer; 1137229]Ok, so went to check out 999 the other day. It's a little nicer than Heting and has a fishbowl which Heting doesn't. Also has soapy. So I suppose which one is better really depends on your preferences. Again, around 10 girls in the bowl, all mostly sort of average as with Heting.
Chose 859 because she was very "bai" so to speak (pale skin). Looked more attractive upon casual glance through the fishbowl, but up close was also just so-so. The soapy was sort of interesting. Rubbed my feet against her breasts. Hadn't experienced that before. Also, she tried to upsell the two girl thing which I politely refused.
Afterwards, went back to the lounge to relax a bit. Ordered a shoulder massage and then a footie. Funny, I think they need to give ME a little commission since the other dudes in the room saw what I ordered and followed. And actually, I think the non-FS providers there were a little more attractive than the girls in the bowl. The girl giving me the shoulder massage was a little bit chubby, but really cute face and personality. Saw another dude getting an ear waxing from a smoking hot girl. When I ordered the footie, I had assumed that it would end with the middle foot. But she kept going in the main room, on my regular two feet. All the while wondering, hmmm, is it SOP for the girls to jack guys off in front of all the other dudes (doesn't personally bother me. Pretty common at 18 sauna down in Macau). Eventually, she told me to get up to go to another room. Aha! In the private room, explained that they didn't have that many private rooms for the "middle foot massage" so the normal footie was just waiting time.
Only two tries, but seems like Shanghai is not the same. Enjoyed Shanghai Hotel and also this other place (can't remember the name. On Zhaojiabang Road) much more than Heting and 999. With Expo over. Maybe the operating environment will loosen up and new shops will open up, creating more competition.
Also, wondering if the reason all the smoking hot chicks have mostly deserted the sauna scene is that the higher end of the market (ie KTV, escort sort of stuff) has moved upwards and become bigger, drawing away supply from the saunas? Just speculation on my part. [/QUOTE]I had the same experience in the old SH hotel sauna. The girls cleaning ears and HJ were pretty hot. The 9s and 10s sauna girls either always get picked by punters or got "bought up" by the high rollers. I've been to 999 but you might want to try it again earlier.
Have you been to SH hotel since its unfortunate demise?
The best places to go in Shanghai for "freelancers" are the 3 bars near Tongren Lu. They are Manhattan, Malones and Judy's, in that order. In Manhattan you will see a lot of Viets and Phillys. In Malones, mainly Chinese and some older Chinese. Judy's is a mix. You can also stop in at Big Bamboo which is almost right next door to Manhattan and see who is there. All 3 bars are within short walking distance of each other (< 5 minutes).
Another spot is Xintandi. I have no personal experience there but if you read the forum, you will find out from others how to find a freelancer there.
I have not had good luck with the outcall services. Most post phony pictures and you never know what you are getting. If you go the bar route, you will at least meet and chat with the lady for awhile before bringing her back to your hotel.
AL
[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1137590]The best places to go in Shanghai for "freelancers" are the 3 bars near Tongren Lu. They are Manhattan, Malones and Judy's, in that order. <snip
Another spot is Xintandi.
I have not had good luck with the outcall services.
AL[/QUOTE]I've picked up at Xintiandi quite a few times. One time met two thais walking around outside; bought them a round of drinks at one of the bars and then took one home. Another time met a Chinese girl outside one of the bars. She was typical of the Chinese girls I have experience with. So-so in bed with lots of fake moaning and really just wanting to get you to cum ASAP so she can leave. I reported on this one as she tried to swipe my watch (an expensive one) before leaving but I noticed it was missing and wouldn't let her leave until we found it. I've rarely, if ever, had a Thai or Phil try to swipe anything, even if I leave out some cash as a test.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1137381]It sounds like you visited at a rather busy time, perhaps the experience would be better if there were less customers.
I typically go there around 2PM, personally I think that is the best time to go. Usually at the time all girls should be present in the bowl, and there are not many customers. I would expect a lineup of 20+ at that time.
When you finish the "massage", it is almost guaranteed you can get a private resting room.
Maybe you could get a super hot ear lady to give you another hand as well.
I haven't been there for three months, so I am speaking from experience here. Not sure if there is new rules / new management or whatever going on now.[/QUOTE]Got there at 3pm if I remember correctly (had lunch at Blue Frog and then hung around for a while to digest. Hate going for massage on a full stomach). I think I went for the shoulder massage around 4pm or so and then the HJ at around 5pm. Guess I should've just skipped the shoulder massage.
The ear job lady was definitely pretty smoking though. Too bad I don't like ear jobs.
[QUOTE=Mike666; 1137533]I had the same experience in the old SH hotel sauna. The girls cleaning ears and HJ were pretty hot. The 9s and 10s sauna girls either always get picked by punters or got "bought up" by the high rollers. I've been to 999 but you might want to try it again earlier.
Have you been to SH hotel since its unfortunate demise?[/QUOTE]Haven't bothered. Figured it would be a waste of time since I haven't seen any mention of the place on the board. If any brothers out there have a few spare minutes (ok, hours) to check it out. Please REPORT! .
Hello,
Each city has their own going rates for different services. We all hate to overly-overpay. Overpaying make it bad for locals mongers. I am new to this region. Can you please give me the going rates for different services in this city. I am tying to plan my next trip somewhere. Also, how easy is it for a foriegner to find these special places?
Thank You!
Ramher
[QUOTE=Ramher; 1137780]Hello,
Each city has their own going rates for different services. We all hate to overly-overpay. Overpaying make it bad for locals mongers. I am new to this region. Can you please give me the going rates for different services in this city. I am tying to plan my next trip somewhere. Also, how easy is it for a foriegner to find these special places?
Thank You!
Ramher[/QUOTE]In each city, freebie will usually cost more than paybies!
Just my experience.
P13.
PS. How long is a piece of string?
How's this place in Pudong doing? Never seen much, if any at all, in the forum during the last years. Anyone been there at all?
[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1137799]In each city, freebie will usually cost more than paybies!
Just my experience.
P13.
PS. How long is a piece of string? [/QUOTE]No. I am not looking for freebies- no time. Rammer
[QUOTE=Ramher; 1137780]Hello,
Each city has their own going rates for different services. We all hate to overly-overpay. Overpaying make it bad for locals mongers. I am new to this region. Can you please give me the going rates for different services in this city. I am tying to plan my next trip somewhere. Also, how easy is it for a foriegner to find these special places?
Thank You!
Ramher[/QUOTE]In my experience:
BBS 200-500 (500 is unusual and you should say no)
Sauna (clean hotel BBS) 800.
FL at Manhattan, etc. 800-1000.
YMMV.
All of these are easy to find. That said, IMO, Shanghai is not a place to come just for sex. If that's all you want then go to BKK or Pattaya or Angeles City or Batam or Jakarta.
Here is the Sacrosa business card.
Price 550- before 6pm.
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My flight arrives in Shanghai at 6am and I depart the same day at 6pm. Are there any saunas (999, Bodi, Sacrosa.) that open in the late morning? I am hoping to visit two saunas before heading back to the airport around 3pm but if they open in the afternoon will have to settle for one. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1137823]How's this place in Pudong doing? Never seen much, if any at all, in the forum during the last years. Anyone been there at all?[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Baoan hotel a couple of weeks ago. The hotel itself is okay. The breakfast is horrible. As far as the sauna goes, the facilities are pretty modern, clean. And actually pretty nice. Standard stuff. Large hot soaking pool, a sauna with a cold pool inside, a lounge area with Lazy-Boy type chairs. Nice shower area.
As far as the massage services go, they are priced at two levels. One around 750 or so RMB. And another at 950 or so RMB. Yes. It's on the pricier side and if you want cheaper. Sacrosa is a 10 minute walk away. As I was staying at the hotel anyways, I decided to give the spa a try. Incidentally, the spa is on the 5th floor and there's a fairly large KTV on the 4th floor just below. In any case, the 950 RMB charge gets you 90 minutes and in my case was a 1/2 hour massage followed by 1 hour of FS that began with a CBJ followed by multiple positions ending in one shot. Don't know if I could have gone multiple shots since I pretty much used the full hour. My masseuse was cute and very accomodating (#950) and overall, it was a good experience. She asked to stay in touch and gave me her phone number (which I think is pretty standard operating procedure in these places). Would I go back again? Probably not as it's a pretty pricey venue albeit clean and fairly luxurious. I think there are other options to try with service equal or better. Your mileage may vary. .
[QUOTE=Ant Nat;1138147]My flight arrives in Shanghai at 6am and I depart the same day at 6pm. Are there any saunas (999, Bodi, Sacrosa.) that open in the late morning? I am hoping to visit two saunas before heading back to the airport around 3pm but if they open in the afternoon will have to settle for one. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I think 999 and Bodi opens at 12, but not all girls are required present at opening.
They should all arrive before 2PM. Not sure about Sacrosa.
[QUOTE=Pcar Racr;1138158]I stayed at the Baoan hotel a couple of weeks ago. The hotel itself is okay. The breakfast is horrible. As far as the sauna goes, the facilities are pretty modern, clean. And actually pretty nice. Standard stuff. Large hot soaking pool, a sauna with a cold pool inside, a lounge area with Lazy-Boy type chairs. Nice shower decider to give the spa a try. Incidentally, the spa is on the 5th floor and there's a fairly large KTV on the 4th floor just below. In any case, the 950 RMB charge gets you 90 minutes and in my case was a 1/2 hour massage followed by 1 hour of FS that began with a CBJ followed by multiple positions ending in one shot.//// Would I go back again? Probably not as it's a pretty pricey venue albeit clean and fairly luxurious. I think there are other options to try with service equal or better. Your mileage may vary. .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback I am going to stay at the nearby Courtyard as usual. I expected that to be on the high end but easy to reach for me. I might give it a try too if in the mood and schedule allows.
Hi, anybody who can recommend a good massage place with HJ (FS not necessarily) in Pudong, near the Hyatt or Pudong South Road?
Anybody tried the "Tequila" parlor?
Found another string of BBS places. This time in Pudong, cross streets are Shangnan Road and Lingzhao Road. When you get there, walk west for about 30 seconds and you'll start to see them. There's about 3 maybe 4 of them down that road. Usual BBS price and scenarios.
Line 6, Shangnan station, is really close to it.
800 RMB. 60 minutes.
Didn't realize this place was so close to where I was staying. It only gets mentioned as 999. When I saw the street name then a bell rang in my head and I decided to check it out today.
The lineup was impressive. About 3-4 smoking hot chicks in a lineup of 10-12 around 3pm. None would make eye contact. I usually don't pick a stunner but because nobody wanted to get picked so I decided to go with one.
Radiant white Harbin girl, lovely round face, bulging tits, a little larger than normal but not a BBW #839. When her clothes came off the tits maintained their shape. Impressive. But they were not accessible for sucking pleasure. Not impressed. Gave a wonderful soapie, her body custom built for that, sucked cock like a champ, licked balls, did not lick anus and then even before the main the course could start she wanted me to cum cum cum.
To get there, Line 4 exit 3. When you exit you're on the right road, just keep walking. It's a short walk, probably need to cross only one major intersection and it's on the left hand side. Big black doors on the street.
Would not recommend.
Hello, friends,
I've been a long time regular at HaiLang and frequented G18 prior to its demise, but tonight was my first time to visit HeTing. I can say, it's a draw between the two.
For my money, HaiLang has better looking and younger girls, and also has the soapy / nuru massage, which is great, but the girls are motivated to get you in-and-out. On the other hand, HeTing has a much cleaner, more upscale facility, and my time with the girl was much longer.
At HeTing tonight, I chose #363. Originally from Hunan with really deep, dark eyes, wild hair and tiny body. I'm not sure about the MO at HeTing, but this girl wasn't faking anything. Started off with a massage for her, then cat bath for me. She went around my anus, but not in, which I appreciated; moved to a fantastic BBBJ and then sex for about 30 minutes in at least 5 different positions. She was really open to everything and very into it. She enjoyed having her pussy played with, which is rare for these girls IMO, and also enjoyed kissing on the mouth, which really gets me going. She was a smart girl, played with my balls when she rode me reverse-cowboy. Really A+! After I popped, she cleaned me, massaged me, cuddled, chatted, then gave me a fantastic HJ before I walked out the door.
One advantage HaiLang has is they take cards. I did not know HeTing was cash only.
Lastly, don't be swayed by people saying HeTing is hard to find. It's absolutely obvious where it is, and if your eyes are open you'll have no problem finding it. Enjoy it!
[QUOTE=Nail The World; 1138308]
To get there, Line 4 exit 3. When you exit you're on the right road, just keep walking. It's a short walk, probably need to cross only one major intersection and it's on the left hand side. Big black doors on the street.
[/QUOTE]To get there, Line 4 Shanghai Stadium stop exit 3.
Thought I would start contributing. In SH many times per year. Found a great gal. 1200 rmb per day / 24 hours. Does anything I want, shopping, dinner, and everything else. I have attached picture from Jan. (If I can figure out how to attach) In March-she lost 20 pounds and looks great. She just likes to take care of me.
Then. I meet this nice 26 yo that works for an American Company. She lives with a guy from down under. But we go out to dinner and back to hotel. Start to go up to room and she balks-"No sex". I say okay. Then 10 minutes into the room. DFK. Well the No Sex was gone-fantastic body and loves it all. Next month we go to Macau for 4 days-doesn't want anything but fun. SH is a great city. I have various dating sites to make contacts. Takes a little efforts but worth it. Have had the normal SH money grabbers, you need to filter through these. Did the "massage" places in Shenzhen, but not having to wander all over the city is better for me. SH is a fun city, it is nice to have someone meet you at your hotel when you arrive (no matter how late at night) , have a friend be with you andthen do your traveling around the country and come back to have her there. Now I have to juggle the two, but that the fun of it. Enjoy SH guys!
I am a long time Shanghai resident. I have worked with hundreds of English speaking Chinese and this report is in Chinglish. I am betting it was written by a shill. I was in the area and checked out the spot. It is basically a crappy massage and HE place. The rooms are very small, the massage tables are very narrow, and I am not fat, and it is clean. The massage girls are disinterested and perform a rather poor massage. There was a lot of yawning during the massage. There is a lot of resistance to touching and just a rather pathetic baby oil session. Not impressive. I did meet the "friendly guy" on the way out. My guess is that he wrote the review or had someone do it for him. His English is consistent with the review. I can speak intermediate Chinese so I have a pretty good idea that this review is a fake. So if you want a cramped environment with a mildly disinterested girls, who yawn, and don't allow touching, and uses baby oil very liberally, then this is your dump. Buyer beware.
"This was not written by a monger."
Which report are you referring to?
Went to Manhattan, Malone, and Big Bamboo Saturday night.
I was in town for a few days and decided to take a friend out to the usual freelance bars in Shanghai. Base on recent reports I had an idea for the ST and LT rates.
11:00 head over to Big Bamboo for a few drinks before heading to Manhattan. Big Bamboo was not crowded but there were a few WGs but mostly guys. I assume most of the guys were hanging out chatting before heading over to Manhattan.
12:00 head over to Manhattan and the place is just packed. We decide to head to Malone's for a while to let the crowd thin out since I assume people were waiting for the price to drop! Wrong.
Malone's is packed, but there was space to walk around and the crowded started to thin out around 1:00. The scene at Malone was low key with a handful of WGs, but no talent.
01:30 Head back to Manhattan. Manhattan is packed but it has thinned out a little. We buy a few drinks and my friend picks up a gal from Vietnam. He initial asking price is 1500 RMB LT but he offers 700 RMB, and they agree on 800 RMB for LT. We stay around a while as I look for a girl. The talent is okay, but not a lot of stunners. The Viet girls have great body but face is okay. I've been with a few gals from Viet (Singapore, Vietnam, KL, HK, and China) so I'm not sure if it me or whether all the good gals were already taken since there seem to be a lot of out of tourists. It was hitting 02:45 am and I spoke to a few girls and the asking price were high. I spotted a potential diamond in the rough and started to chat with her and asked about price. She wanted 2000 RMB for LT. I politely said "No", but bought her a drink and we chatted a little. I noticed a hot Viet gal who just walked in the bar. We spoke and she quoted her ST rate is 2500 RMB. WTF was my reply. I offered 1000 RMB to see if she would budge but no. Since I just flew into Shanghai (short flight) and knew I would be in town a few more days I just called it a night and figure tomorrow would be a better day.
Sunday was a new day. I was tired from Manhattan so I decide Sunday would be an easy day. I wanted something relaxing so made the decision to go to Bodi with my friend.
After dinner we head over to Bodi around 9:30 pm. The shower and waiting areas were basically empty. I think we saw total 5 local guys. 3 in waiting area and 2 getting ready to shower. We get rush into the fish bowl and there are about 12-15 girls. Most of the girls are 7-8 but there were a few 9s. All of the girls were early 20s. I love the fish bowl, but my recommendation is to have an idea what you want before entering. Make sure you have a fall back plan in case the requirements are not available. My girl was super sweet. Typical PRC, pale skin, thin, long hair, and small frame. Lately I have a thing for PRC gals. I forget her number and were she is from, but she is 23 and has been in Shanghai for a few months. I won't bore with details, since the routine hasn't changed from other reports. Nuru, sucking motion on back, cowgirl, etc. Gals still offer second girl, but I declined.
She spent a good 5-10 on BBBJ, capped me then started with cowgirl. I don't know about most guys, but I like to kiss but she wasn't into it (okay, I understand). I had some trouble finishing, so she offers to give me a HJ. After 5 minutes I ask if I can finish the old fashion way, so she pulls out a new condom and we hit missionary. After a few minutes we switch to doggy where I finish.
Overall, I prefer spas to bars. I don't like to deal with the gals at Manhattan. I think from a price point spas are better, but it all depends on what you are looking for. I usually prefer to play home games, but lately I find spas to be more relaxing and you always have the option for a repeat or get another gal.
Bodi damage: 800 RMB.
Foot massage with HE (after FS) is 360 RMB. Offered but didn't take.
This is my first post on this forum, maybe my last. Who knows? Thanks to all who have previously provided posts I've found useful. I'm a visitor to Shanghai and it will show.
The other day I was visiting Shanghai and had been thinking about the Shanghai Hotel because it was convenient and infamous, at least in the old days. I checked the guide but all of the posts were ancient. Anyway I decided to check it out. Please bear in mind that I've never been to a sauna before so this may sound naïve but it may be useful to people who are equally ignorant of what goes on there.
Just walk into the Shanghai hotel and go to the second floor. (Don't go to the 3rd floor, because that is a waste of money). There's a desk. I asked how much and they said it was 760 for a special massage and before I knew it I was in the changing room. 2 guys helped me get undressed, put my clothes in a locker, locked it, gave me a key on a wrist band and helped me put on shorts and a top. They led me into a big room and directed me to a big hot-tub—more like a swimming pool. It was okay, but I was not there for that and so I got out fairly quickly. There were 2 or 3 other clients hanging around-some in the shower some, in a sauna.
After I got out some biggish guy came along and told me to lie on a bench with towels on. He then gave me a fairly hard massage. I was a bit worried about getting a hard on, but fortunately did not. There was some other guy in the open room next to me. After flipping and sighing about how much hair I had he showed me a packet and said 'very good, yes, yes. ' Before I knew it he had ripped off the top and was applying it to me. It turned out that this cost an additional 140 + 20 for the tip. When that was over I was directed to the shower.
After the shower I headed towards to the next station. Again more guys helped with the drying and I put on another set of clean shorts and top. I was then led inside for the massage. It's a huge place. I down a very long corridor, round bends and then came to another door. A guy handed me over to another guy who showed me to a room. He asked if I wanted something to drink and I asked how much. He said it was free and so I asked for green tea. He told me to sit down and turned on the TV.
There were 2 chairs in the room. After a while he returned with the tea and his 'tools. ' Clearly he was going to give me a pedicure, which was the last thing I wanted. I asked how much and he said 70 and I said no and so he left.
I waited a while and then another guy came in. He walked me further down the corridor around some bends and handed me over to a girl who took me further. Eventually I came to the 'fish bowl'. It consisted of room with 5 girls in red and white uniforms. I picked the cutest and off we went.
Overall the session was pretty good. There was no rimming, no kissing and no red rope. The foreplay was pleasant, the BBBJ was great and I finished off in missionary. She then left and later returned. I put the shorts on and she gave me a very weak massage. After a while I realized there was no way that I was going to come again, the massage was weak and so I decided to leave. Before I left I had to speak to someone at the front desk to say that I was satisfied.
I then retraced my steps, passed a new girl who was even more cute, got back to the shower area, had a shower and got back to the changing room where the 2 guys kept asking 'Did I have a nice massage, Ha, Ha'. And then to the counter and I paid—fortunately more or less what I expected, about 900. I gave the two change room guys 10 each and they kept saying 'see you tomorrow, ha, ha', as did the girl at the counter.
All in all a good experience. The rooms had just been renovated. They were clean. And the girl checked me out before-hand and applied some sort of cleaning lotion you know where. The place is huge and seems to get lots of business.
Decided to try 1245 Longyang Road again, glad I did. Girl #557, 21 years old, was a lot of fun. The first time I tried Bodi, the shower time was just the girl washing me. This time I got what I assume was the "soapy". Basically the girl bodying surfing all over you. Pretty funky. I hadn't had that before. She really worked the AR and also very impressive BBBJ with a bit of deep throat. She wasn't smokingly hot, but very sexy none the less. Allowed some light kissing.
Just last night went to Big Bamboo to watch soccer and to have few beers, it was my first night in Shanghai and I was really tired. After the game and some other sport I decided to go back to the hotel and sleep, I hate the feeling of jetlag.
Anyway when smoking outside, I noticed that a lot of cute girls are going to Manhattan all the time, so I decided to have one more (beer). By the way the bottle of Heineken is 40RMB compared to the huge 40RMB pint in Big Bamboo. It was around 10PM and not a lot of people inside (at 11PM it was full).
Anyway this one small Vietnamese girl kept jumping all over me (cute cute, marry me, I love you) , but I wasn't much interested. One of her friend kept smiling at me and then came to the table, she also likes me. Yeah yeah don't they all.
Well she was different, smiling face a little shy but very determined to go back with me to the hotel. She didn't want to talk about the price, it's up to me she said and off we go then. This really wasn't my plan as I was really tired. In the room she jumped right on me and gave a nice BJ, we continued that in every position possible and we were done maybe an hour a later. Then we just lied on the bed and she kept kissing me and poking my nose. Very sweet girl.
She said that she needs to go back but I didn't allow, we started the second round. A lot of doggie and finally BJ + cim. The she tucked me in and told me to sleep, like a real girlfriend. All in all we spend time together 3-4 hours as I slept at 2:30AM. I gave her 800RMB, she never counted the money. Just smiled.
Awesome first night in Shanghai, although it's now 8AM and I'm still dizzy, lack of sleep and travelling.
My new office is near the Holiday Inn Shanghai Vista. 700 Chang Shou Road, Puxi Side, so I decided to check it out.
There is a Sauna on the Third Floor. Very Clean and at 4:00pm I was the only one there.
Asked for special Massage and was taken in through the curtains. Usual deal, get undressed, wave the tackle at the attendants and strut to the showers. Large clean sauna bath for those interested.
Was taken to a waiting room and in came 20 girls. All between 7 and 9. Decided on No 887, lovely girl from Sichuan.
Taken to the room, decorated in Chic Bordello Motif, including red lights and mirrors on three walls and the ceiling.
As I am not really into the whole cat licking and AR, I always like to take control of proceeding.
So. Undressing each other, lots of caresses, kissing and DFK. Onto the bed and into BBBJ and DATY. Love them mirrors!
She was really enjoying the whole thing and was giving a real GFE.
Multiple positions, and one shot. I was buggered after all that!
Damage a little pricey at 1, 000 RMB but worth it for the service, the cleanliness of the venue, and the no waiting.
They also do in room service as well. So if on thi side of town well worth staying there.
I met a tout on Biyun Road. Near the Flying Fox in Jin Qiao tonight. The touts are always in this area and usually I ignore them. I let the guy give me his card and told him I might call him later so he could send me a girl, knowing that actually I wanted to give that a try. Often, once I get home, I don't feel like going out to Puxi to pick up or over to Bodi or another sauna. The guy had told me 700rmb all in.
Around 11pm I texted him and told him to send me a thin, young girl and he replied that I should call him, so I did. Repeated what I wanted and confirmed the price.
20mins later he's at my door with a pretty good looker, maybe a 7. Young enough, maybe 23-34, not thin, but not fat either, and she had a nice face and at first, a good personality, although she didn't speak English. So off the guy goes and in the girl comes.
Straight to the bedroom. I put on some music while she showered. She returned in a towel and said she was cold so under the covers for her. Little bit of hugging and cuddling; no kissing (strike 1) ; so she moves down and starts licking her way down my body. Okay. But when she gets to little brother she wants to put on a cover and I told her wait on that. Then she starts the give me tip and I'll give you BBBJ, and I just told her no. Strike 2, already asking for a tip and hasn't put anything out yet.
I told her no again and then I rolled her onto her back and DATY. After a while she started to enjoy that and once she came she lightened up a lot; rolled me onto my back and gave me the BBBJ. 5/10 on that, but no more asking for tip. I tired of that after awhile so she then did put on the condom and started with her on top, multiple positions, and then I pulled out and took off the bag and wanted CIF but she didn't really want that so it was COB. Good enough.
Total damage 700 and I gave her 20 for taxi, so 720rmb.
Looks 7/10.
BBBJ 5/10.
FS 6/10.
Except for the asking for the tip, a good enough experience. Convenient enough that I'll probably do it again.
Seems that I must get used to see Manhattan moving to a new place every few years.
For those who are looking for the current location at Nanyang Lu put this into the search field of google maps: 31. 228074, 121. 450764.
Last time I was in Manhattan was at Tong Ren Lu. The funny thing is, that after entering the new location, you hardly recognize any difference in size and interiors. But what changed significantly is the structure of working girls.
A few years ago it was mainly PI and a few CN. The PI not always good looking but often hot in bed.
Now the majority of the girls is from Vietnam. Good lookers I must admit. The average looks really hot an some look even hotter. The place is really packed after 11pm, but there are always enough ladies. A beer is 40RMB.
One Saturday a picked a girl from Burma. 23y. She had a nice smile, but was not the best choice. I offered here 800 for LT and 1000 if she makes me very happy. Had one session in the night with CBJ after which she was soo tired, another short session in the morning after which she had to leave. Paid 900 and let her go. Was OK, not to good, not too bad. A second round in the morning and she had scored top.
Next week I was close to take a VI, but she asked 1500 LT. Offered 1000 but said I want to do 3-4 sessions and her to stay till 3pm. It was already past 3am and I want to sleep. She agreed to 1000 but the multiple pop made her think. I guessed that would end bed and moved away.
Found another VI, good looker called Vy. Agreed on time plan and multiple pops and said I shall pay what I want. A very nice girl. Nice to talk to, very service oriented. Had hair extensions and breast implants. No idea why they do this. Her hole was tight. 25y. Had a session at night, which took at least 1 hour all positions. Another in the morning with BBBJ, DATY and any position. Gave her 1000 plus taxi. My top limit for such activities.
Was at Malones where I picked the hottest girl in bed ever last year (PI with a butterfly tattoo and curly hair. 24y. Do not remember her name. Anybody knows where she is? I did not note her number as I thought she should be easy to find. Big mistake.). Found only a hand full CN. Not to my liking.
If you are looking for a SW in the afternoon or early evening, stroll around at Xin Tian Di. You will soon be approached by ladies. Not as good looking as in Manhattan.
[QUOTE=Vincent P; 1135614]I like bigger tits than the usual B- or C-cup. Difficult to find. Are the busty white skinned girls from the web pages of escort service all fake or do they exist somewhere in Shanghai? Pvt me if you can give a hint where to find (999, Bodi, girl working number?)
Sacrosa report: 19:00. Nice line up of 12. 15 girls. I checked breast size, tried to deduct the push-up bra effect and finally choose #257.
They choise is right if you like bouncing tits: nice C to D cup, gravity starts to take its toll. Good BBBJ, nice massage, FS different position, she's not a good actor because overdo fake moaning. However she seems to be one of the more experienced. [/QUOTE]Go to Yuanzhun Sauna in Xujiahui. At the intersection of Xietu and Nandan road on the 3rd floor. You can google the address. Ask for girl #13, or ask for a girl with big tits (da4 mi1mi1). Use sign language to explain what you want if you don't speak Chinese. I went there a few weeks ago. Soapland service. 90 minutes, I paid 690.
Change into the PJ's they give you and a boy will lead you to a private room, it has a bed and a shower area on the other side of the glass. Girl selection is one by one, so if the girl that comes in doesn't have big tits ask for a different girl. I had #13 and her tits were huge, big heavy hangers. She led me into the shower area and put down an inflatable mattress and had me lay down, washed and soaped me, breast massage and pussy massage and Rim. She flipped me over, more washing and soaping and BBBJ, then dried off and back to the bed for a tongue massage and more BBBJ, followed by DATY and finished in missionary.
She was a bit un-interested and not a GFE, but her tits were amazing.
Tybao
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Stumbled upon this Sauna last week, located at the intersection of Zhongxing Road and Baochang Road (zhong1xing1 lu4 bao3chang1 lu4kou3). It is within walking distance of Line #8 zhongxing Road station. I have attached a photo of the enterance. It is a great budget sauna if you don't want to break the bank. I paid 470 RMB for 60 minutes. Yes. 470!
Take the elevator to the 3rd floor (which is technically the 2nd floor, don't be afraid of the 2 star facilities). Nobody speaks English here, and from talking with people there they don't get many foreigners, so use sign language to explain what kind of massage you want, a pen and paper, or ask for the si4bai3qi1shi2 (470).
Usual sauna routine: strip, shower room, back into looker room to dry off, put on PJ's they provide, into lounge area. Shower facilities are so so, the sauna helpers don't do much, but I actually prefer hands off experience with the male helpers. Go into the lounge area (nap room) and someone will come to you and ask you if you want a massage. They have a normal massage and a FS massage. They lead you to a massage room, it was small and dimly lit, had a TV but not porn, and mirrors. Girl comes into the room, if you don't like her ask for a different girl. I had #5, she was around 30 and short, but her face was an 8 and she had a nice little tight round ass. Stripped and started with an average massage, then a tongue bath, Rim, then used baby powder (strange) , then breast massage and pussy massage, BBBJ. 69. The 69 was great, she let me do anything and seemed to really enjoy it, she was grinding onto my mouth. Then condom and reverse cowgirl, then cowgirl, lots of kissing and DFK, she came. Then I finished in missionary. She is new to this sauna, I was her first customer. She didn't even know which direction to walk me back to the lounge. I saw a couple other girls that were 6-7 in the looks dpt.
I will go again for sure.
Sauna Facilities: 5. 5.
Face: 8.
Body: 6. 5.
Skill: 8.
GFE: 9.
Overall: 8.
Tybao
[QUOTE=Leotak;1138226]Anybody tried the "Tequila" parlor?[/QUOTE]Do you mean Tequlia in Weifang Lu, the name was acidentally changed by from tequila to tequlia during the last revamp!
A good HE Massage Parlour, management try to limit tips requested by girls to 100rmb, but not always with success.
Poor relationship with LE, Laoshan Lu is safer, the south side is never raided.
There is also a Tequila MP, at the south end of Pujian Lu, but I have no experience of it
after checking into the hotel called a couple freebies i hooked up with last trip to shanghai but they were busy, so made plans later in the week. i keep in touch through qq and email. i highly recommend you use qq instant messenger to find and contact girls in china. chat on qq and will hopefully lead to sexual encounters, which has for me a few times. you can read the forum for more details on qq.
i called an apartment girl i found on.
[url]www.aishi001.com[/url]
she lives in xujiahui, her name is yanyan and her qq # is 1226609341, her phone number 13062820299. she does not speak english. you can also see her photos at.
[url]http://69.64.45.41/space.php?uid=333540&do=album&id=6299[/url]
she charges 500-1000 rmb per hour depending on what you want or your fetish ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], costumes, sm, candles, whips, roleplay, xxx videos, toys, photos / video, etc.) i guess i chose her because she had toys and did cam on qq with me in the past. i came in and we showered, then massage, tongue massage. 69, then bbbj with cim. she rinsed and came back for more massage which led to me toying her pussy until she came, stockings and took some photos, then condom for cowgirl, finished in doggy and pumped hard and deep. apartment environment: 6, face: 6, body: 7, skill: 7, gfe: 6, overall: 7. paid 1000 for 2 pops. 90 minutes. she was overacting and seemed fake at times, she is also shorter than i thought. she also kept trying to upsell or nickel and dime me for sex acts. other than that it was ok. will try again but only 1 pop.
a bit of background on apartment girls. services and prices differ depending on the girl, but most offer fs, starting with a shower then massage, bbbj. 69, daty, sex in different positions. some give gfe some don't. some will do outcall some don't. price between 300. 1000. call beforehand to confirm price, service, time, location, etc. some apartments are shared by a couple different wg's, others are owned / rented by pimps. some have day jobs and do this part time, only a few guys a week. others do several guys a day. be descrete, the girls don't want neighbors finding out what they are doing and reporting them. keep in mind once they find out you are foreigner they will try to milk you for more cash. hold your ground.
have fun and be safe.
tybao
after checking into the hotel called a couple freebies i hooked up with last trip to shanghai but they were busy, so made plans later in the week. i keep in touch through qq and email. i highly recommend you use qq instant messenger to find and contact girls in china. chat on qq and will hopefully lead to sexual encounters, which has for me a few times. you can read the forum for more details on qq.
i called an apartment girl i found on [url]www.aishi001.com[/url] she lives in xujiahui, her name is yanyan and her qq # is 1226609341, her phone number 13062820299. she does not speak english. you can also see her photos at [url]http://69.64.45.41/space.php?uid=333...=album&id=6299[/url]
she charges 500-1000 rmb per hour depending on what you want or your fetish ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], costumes, sm, candles, whips, roleplay, xxx videos, toys, photos / video, etc.) i guess i chose her because she had toys and did cam on qq with me in the past. i came in and we showered, then massage, tongue massage. 69, then bbbj with cim. she rinsed and came back for more massage which led to me toying her pussy until she came, stockings and took some photos, then condom for cowgirl, finished in doggy and pumped hard and deep. apartment environment: 6, face: 6, body: 7, skill: 7, gfe: 6, overall: 7. paid 1000 for 2 pops. 90 minutes. she was overacting and seemed fake at times, she is also shorter than i thought. she also kept trying to upsell or nickel and dime me for sex acts. other than that it was ok. will try again but only 1 pop.
a bit of background on apartment girls. services and prices differ depending on the girl, but most offer fs, starting with a shower then massage, bbbj. 69, daty, sex in different positions. some give gfe some don't. some will do outcall some don't. price between 300. 1000. call beforehand to confirm price, service, time, location, etc. some apartments are shared by a couple different wg's, others are owned / rented by pimps. some have day jobs and do this part time, only a few guys a week. others do several guys a day. be descrete, the girls don't want neighbors finding out what they are doing and reporting them. keep in mind once they find out you are foreigner they will try to milk you for more cash. hold your ground.
have fun and be safe.
tybao
[QUOTE=Ding Ding; 1139692]Seems that I must get used to see Manhattan moving to a new place every few years.
For those who are looking for the current location at Nanyang Lu put this into the search field of google maps: 31. 228074, 121. 450764.
Last time I was in Manhattan was at Tong Ren Lu. The funny thing is, that after entering the new location, you hardly recognize any difference in size and interiors. But what changed significantly is the structure of working girls.
A few years ago it was mainly PI and a few CN. The PI not always good looking but often hot in bed.
Now the majority of the girls is from Vietnam. Good lookers I must admit. The average looks really hot an some look even hotter. The place is really packed after 11pm, but there are always enough ladies. A beer is 40RMB.
One Saturday a picked a girl from Burma. 23y. She had a nice smile, but was not the best choice. I offered here 800 for LT and 1000 if she makes me very happy. Had one session in the night with CBJ after which she was soo tired, another short session in the morning after which she had to leave. Paid 900 and let her go. Was OK, not to good, not too bad. A second round in the morning and she had scored top.
Next week I was close to take a VI, but she asked 1500 LT. Offered 1000 but said I want to do 3-4 sessions and her to stay till 3pm. It was already past 3am and I want to sleep. She agreed to 1000 but the multiple pop made her think. I guessed that would end bed and moved away.
Found another VI, good looker called Vy. Agreed on time plan and multiple pops and said I shall pay what I want. A very nice girl. Nice to talk to, very service oriented. Had hair extensions and breast implants. No idea why they do this. Her hole was tight. 25y. Had a session at night, which took at least 1 hour all positions. Another in the morning with BBBJ, DATY and any position. Gave her 1000 plus taxi. My top limit for such activities.
Was at Malones where I picked the hottest girl in bed ever last year (PI with a butterfly tattoo and curly hair. 24y. Do not remember her name. Anybody knows where she is? I did not note her number as I thought she should be easy to find. Big mistake.). Found only a hand full CN. Not to my liking.
If you are looking for a SW in the afternoon or early evening, stroll around at Xin Tian Di. You will soon be approached by ladies. Not as good looking as in Manhattan.[/QUOTE]I've been staying at the SH Hilton off / on for a year plus and usually head (no pun intended) across the street for a quick beer and some attention before heading for Malones, Big Bamboo, and Manhattans. Last trip my wingman got a BBBJ CIM for 100 RMB at the "girls bar" next to the last on the right. The one next door (last on right) has access to the same pool table and rooms co-located where "things happen". Those places used to be nothing but swindle joints. Have things changed? Will the girls leave and if they do, can you get them inside the Hilton? It was tough during Expo.
[QUOTE=Tybao; 1140215]I called an apartment girl I found on.
[url]www.aishi001.com[/url]
Tybao[/QUOTE]This website does not exist.
I have been a paid member for some time but have not posted as didn't really have much to add to the threads, but will post a bit about my upcoming trip to Shanghai and Beijing.. (I. E. Long time [paying] lurker, but hoping to give back)
Shanghai – I have only one night in Shanghai and having previously experienced the difficulty of navigating the city's P4P spots, so I've decided to engage Dragon for a one night tour. (You can see his ad in the classified section for more details, but basically sounds like he is at least bi-lingual and knows the scene in Shanghai very well. Any adverse feedback would be of interest.)
On my last visit to Shanghai. 2010, I left for two days and visited Hangzhaou where I had a some "rewarding" pink light experiences, but it was hard to find the spots and involved lots of wasted time. When I went back to Shanghai I tried to find some pinks but ended up calling an escort service – don't recall which one – but the service and quality was good for a cost of about 500 RMB ST.
So this trip I am asking Dragon to help me scope out some Pinks, some Saunas, and then maybe a bar scene.
If anyone has any general feedback, I'd appreciate it, but I have RTFF and hope I've got a decent plan.
(See my Beijing plan on that thread. If you care.)
[QUOTE=Knotawake;1140575]I've been staying at the SH Hilton off / on for a year plus and usually head (no pun intended) across the street for a quick beer and some attention before heading for Malones, Big Bamboo, and Manhattans. Last trip my wingman got a BBBJ CIM for 100 RMB at the "girls bar" next to the last on the right. The one next door (last on right) has access to the same pool table and rooms co-located where "things happen". Those places used to be nothing but swindle joints. Have things changed? Will the girls leave and if they do, can you get them inside the Hilton? It was tough during Expo.[/QUOTE]While I don't have experience taking a girl out of those bars, I have had them run across the street to me when they see me walking back to the Hilton late at night. No problem getting through the lobby gauntlet. Last time was a tall girl named Ling. I took my time closing the deal, saying I wanted to sleep. 300rmb.
This occurs late, usually after the guys with wallets gave left the bar. Inside is still the buy-me-a-drink game with blue balls to go. I much rather going to Malones. There are cn girls and you get to sample first before taking them back.
[QUOTE=Tybao; 1140215]I called an apartment girl I found on.
[url]www.aishi001.com[/url]
She lives in xujiahui, her name is Yanyan and her QQ # is 1226609341, her phone number 13062820299. She does not speak English. You can also see her photos at.
[url]http://69.64.45.41/space.php?uid=333...=album&id=6299[/url]
Tybao[/QUOTE]After a bit of searching. Should be [url]http://www.aish001.com.[/url]
[QUOTE=Bluejay55; 1141137]After a bit of searching. Should be.
[url]http://www.aish001.com.[/url][/QUOTE]Anyone knows how to register on aish001? Looks like you need some kind of invitation code.
This one has been around for a while and I used to go there a lot while I still lived in Gubei. Passed by last week and found it's still opened and decided to check it out. The place is clean and nicely decorated. Not many people on Monday afternoon. The entry is pretty routine. Got the key from front desk, go upstair, change and shower. The pools are actually nice and big in this place. Worth spending sometime soaking inside that big pool.
On to the room after the shower and the mami took the girls in to the room. The line up was about 20 girls. A bit hard to fit them into the small room. Mostly 7. Girls greet and said where they are from. Pick one tall girl from Inner Mongolia. She's about 172 and has a nice rack and smooth skin. It turned out to be a good pick. Good services and GEF.
The place is near Hongbaosi / Gubei Lu and the afternoon price is 630.
Been too long in China, need a break from it.
Does anyone know a place where I can find Russian, eastern Europe quality girls here in SH?
Been spoiled by the German FKK with some real nice gf experience.
Haven't felt a REAL nice C-cup for some time now, plus most Chinese girls I met don't have much ass, if you know what I am saying.
Thanks in advance.
Hi Fuzimiao,
Yes, the one on Weifang Lu. There are two more "Massage Spas" on the left and right side.
Did you tried the other two? What's the going price at Tequila?
Where exactly is the other one in Laoshan Lu (corner which street?).
Thanks a lot for your info!
Do you mean Tequlia in Weifang Lu, the name was acidentally changed by from tequila to tequlia during the last revamp!
A good HE Massage Parlour, management try to limit tips requested by girls to 100rmb, but not always with success.
Poor relationship with LE, Laoshan Lu is safer, the south side is never raided.
There is also a Tequila MP, at the south end of Pujian Lu, but I have no experience of it[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pokerstar77; 1141682]Been too long in China, need a break from it.
Does anyone know a place where I can find Russian, eastern Europe quality girls here in SH?
Been spoiled by the German FKK with some real nice gf experience.
Haven't felt a REAL nice C-cup for some time now, plus most Chinese girls I met don't have much ass, if you know what I am saying.
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]Hey Pokerstar77,
Maybe you try Zabatas, and / or the surrounding! But I think and believe at Zabatas you will find what you are searching for!
The Nighthawk.
I went to this MP on wuzhong lu the other week for the second time and got the same girl. I don't remember her number or name and didn't choose her, just got her as she was the one available when I went in late both nights. This time after a good 30 minute back massage, she flips for the front. This time she doesn't ask if I want HE as I guess she remembers the first time where I accepted so just lightly strokes my little man. My boxers are off because she pulled them off when massaging my back to include a little ass massage. Anyways while she's softly strocking me, she gets in position and seems to kind of bend down as if she was going to give my little brother some mouth action. My imagination is just going wild by this time and I'm asking my self if it's really going to happen. I've been to tons of MPs and had HEs, but never been offered any BJ or got rejected whenever I even asked. She then leans over to the side and from the little bag she brought with her, pulls out a little alcohol wipie and wipes my nipples and brother off. After a few more strokes with her hand, and sucking my nipples, she goes down to finish me with a BBBJCIM. I was so excited it only took me 20 seconds before I blew. Sometimes not knowing whats going to happen next makes the experience that much more exciting.
I had no idea what to tip her, normally I give 200, so gave her an extra 200 (400 total) as I had no idea what to give and she did not mention any amount.
Does anyone else who gets the same experience know what the normal tip should be for this special service?
[QUOTE=Jon246; 1141826]I went to this MP on wuzhong lu the other week for the second time and got the same girl. I don't remember her number or name and didn't choose her, just got her as she was the one available when I went in late both nights. This time after a good 30 minute back massage, she flips for the front. This time she doesn't ask if I want HE as I guess she remembers the first time where I accepted so just lightly strokes my little man. My boxers are off because she pulled them off when massaging my back to include a little ass massage. Anyways while she's softly strocking me, she gets in position and seems to kind of bend down as if she was going to give my little brother some mouth action. My imagination is just going wild by this time and I'm asking my self if it's really going to happen. I've been to tons of MPs and had HEs, but never been offered any BJ or got rejected whenever I even asked. She then leans over to the side and from the little bag she brought with her, pulls out a little alcohol wipie and wipes my nipples and brother off. After a few more strokes with her hand, and sucking my nipples, she goes down to finish me with a BBBJCIM. I was so excited it only took me 20 seconds before I blew. Sometimes not knowing whats going to happen next makes the experience that much more exciting.
I had no idea what to tip her, normally I give 200, so gave her an extra 200 (400 total) as I had no idea what to give and she did not mention any amount.
Does anyone else who gets the same experience know what the normal tip should be for this special service? [/QUOTE]Sounds almost exactly like my experience at a MP this week but I wasn't quite as lucky as you. The girl gave me a great ass massage and after I flipped over went to work stroking. I was half asleep on the table but after about 10mins I looked up and she had her face as close as she could get it and was touching the tip with her nose. I hinted for her to take it in her mouth but I don't think she was ready for that. So close, but no cigar. If she had done BBBJ CIM I prolly woulda give her 300 or 400 too. I know it's alot when you can get FS at a BBS for less, but this would be for unexpected service that deserves a nice reward.
[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1138017]In my experience:
BBS 200-500 (500 is unusual and you should say no)
Sauna (clean hotel BBS) 800.
FL at Manhattan, etc. 800-1000.
YMMV.
All of these are easy to find. That said, IMO, Shanghai is not a place to come just for sex. If that's all you want then go to BKK or Pattaya or Angeles City or Batam or Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Thank You for your info. RamHer
I have been going thru the forum, but so far cannot find what I'm looking for. I will be in Shanghai in May and staying at the Marriott Courtyard Shanghai Xujiahui 100 HongQiao Road, Xuhui District · Shanghai. 200030 China. Anyone know of any MPs or BBS near hear within walking distance or just a few stops along line 1 & 9.
If possible, please give me name of the place and which stop on the metro line it is if possible. Thanks so much. I look forward to experiencing what I have read and reporting back!
[QUOTE=Steelecan; 1142013]I have been going thru the forum, but so far cannot find what I'm looking for. I will be in Shanghai in May and staying at the Marriott Courtyard Shanghai Xujiahui 100 HongQiao Road, Xuhui District · Shanghai. 200030 China. Anyone know of any MPs or BBS near hear within walking distance or just a few stops along line 1 & 9.
If possible, please give me name of the place and which stop on the metro line it is if possible. Thanks so much. I look forward to experiencing what I have read and reporting back! [/QUOTE]999 Sauna Club is near by. Not sure if that is what you want. 999 Tianyaoqiao Road.
There are quite a few massage places in the area mainly along CaoXi North Road, but I don't know if any of them offers HE.
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I posted it here because the Shanghai Thread is one of the most popular threads in China with over 3,307,463 viewed. I also posted it in the general thread for China.
I will probably be repeating what many have said in the past but I figure this is current and it may be of interest to other newbies.
I'm here for the first time and thank god for this forum or I would not have known what the hell was going on.
I went to 999 today at about noon. Maybe a little bit later. NO ONE spoke a word of English which is fine but since I had read this forum I had a clue what might happen. Else I probbly would have walked. First off, where is it? I took a cab to the Shanghai Stadium got out and walked about three blocks to 999. Street signs make it obvious. There are no signs but the "999" address makes it clear. Two black doors, walk in and there si the desk.
No payment, they just took me to the locker room where I undressed and was taken to showers. The GUYS then aimed me upstairs where I was taken to a waiting room and given a beer. I waited and waited and waited. No one had given me any instruction and I was getting nervous given that my billfold was down in the locker. Finally they came and got me. 1/2 hour later. And I was taken to the fishbowl where several others joind me. Maybe 12 girls (it was early) so I chose fast#801. We went upstairs and got naked, was given a medium soapy, cat bath and a BBBJ. I came pretty fast, old guy so that was it. She was surprised I came so fast and who knows what may have happened but can't complain, LOL. All in all, not bad but I have to say, I've done this soapy thing in Pattaya Thailand and it was much better for a lot less money. Ut no regrets. Cost was 800 rmd. I maybe would go again and pace myself a little more. The girls were all pretty cute I have to say. And the BBBJ was sweet.
Hope this helps other other newcomers.
Hi,
I'm new in here.
Someone has tryed the girls from expatchn?
They seems true.
[QUOTE=Leotak;1141780]Where exactly is the other one in Laoshan Lu (corner which street?).[/QUOTE]From Tequila walk east along Wefang Lu, away from the river, cross Nanquan Lu, then turn right into Laoshan Lu, there is a strip of 4 or 5 MP, all very well decorated. I prefer the first on the right, mainly because it has a decent sit down w.c. cubicle In every room.
[QUOTE=Jman90024;1141286]The place is near Hongbaosi / Gubei Lu and the afternoon price is 630.[/QUOTE]Hongbaosi? Never heard of this street or location.
Has anyone been to the Riverview lately? I got an SMS from Tony saying he had some "new products".
All the best.
D
Little hotel with very nice spa off to the left of the hotel entrance. Very nice. I had a be etter experience here then the 999 to be honest. Much better. I was a bit put off by all of the men helping me and in particular by the dude who gave me a nude scrub down but once I got to the fishbowl there was lots of choice. My girl did it all so I won't repeat. Very sweet young gal and again no? English whatsoever. Cost was about 850 rmd. Went around noon. This is located on Longyang Road up the street about ten blocks (going away from the Expo Center.) If you are a walker you can get to the Maglev / Metro on line 2 I believe and walk the ten blocks.
I'd do it again.
[QUOTE=Darnoc; 1142722]Little hotel with very nice spa off to the left of the hotel entrance. Very nice. I had a be etter experience here then the 999 to be honest. Much better. I was a bit put off by all of the men helping me and in particular by the dude who gave me a nude scrub down but once I got to the fishbowl there was lots of choice. My girl did it all so I won't repeat. Very sweet young gal and again no? English whatsoever. Cost was about 850 rmd. Went around noon. This is located on Longyang Road up the street about ten blocks (going away from the Expo Center.) If you are a walker you can get to the Maglev / Metro on line 2 I believe and walk the ten blocks.
I'd do it again. [/QUOTE]There is a Metro Line 7 station even closer.
Turn left when you exit Bodi, walk over the sky bridge to cross the expressway walk toward the large Villa / Hotel.
That station is only 5 or 6 blocks away.
Is there any update on the activities at Merrylin in PD. 3rd floor?
Business as usual or still some tail back from Expo in there?
Hey this is my first time on the forum and in Shanghai. I am shy to go to bar or the massage place so I'm wondering what you guys think about the craigslist outcall? There seem to be a ton of advertisements offering oil massage for 300rmb. Is the oil massage what I think it is? Ha.
And I am wondering how safe it is to get a girl from craigslist, don't want police showing up on my door or a girl who is much worse looking than her photo! Thanks. Will write report about my experience with it if I do it.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1142048]999 Sauna Club is near by. Not sure if that is what you want. 999 Tianyaoqiao Road.
There are quite a few massage places in the area mainly along CaoXi North Road, but I don't know if any of them offers HE. [/QUOTE]Thanks for replying
Hello. I will be staying near the Bund. Is there anything close by for quick fun? I would have to be discreet. Thanks!
Ramher
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1143015]Hey this is my first time on the forum and in Shanghai. I am shy to go to bar or the massage place so I'm wondering what you guys think about the craigslist outcall? There seem to be a ton of advertisements offering oil massage for 300rmb. Is the oil massage what I think it is? Ha.
And I am wondering how safe it is to get a girl from craigslist, don't want police showing up on my door or a girl who is much worse looking than her photo! Thanks. Will write report about my experience with it if I do it. [/QUOTE]Man up and go out in search for what you want. You can't hide behind Mommy's skirt forever. Craigslist will probably leave you wishing you had just taken care of Jr. Yourself.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1143015]Hey this is my first time on the forum and in Shanghai. I am shy to go to bar or the massage place so I'm wondering what you guys think about the craigslist outcall? There seem to be a ton of advertisements offering oil massage for 300rmb. Is the oil massage what I think it is? Ha.
And I am wondering how safe it is to get a girl from craigslist, don't want police showing up on my door or a girl who is much worse looking than her photo! Thanks. Will write report about my experience with it if I do it.[/QUOTE]You don't have to worry about the police much. The CL ads are real, but the girl who shows up will almost certainly be a different girl from the photo, probably ugly or at least disappointing in some way, and she'll overcharge you. She knows you don't know what you're doing since you used CL. I've heard of people getting stuff stolen, too. If you're ok with that, then contact them.
I got to say though, I really think you'll be ok if you visit the Manhattan bar. It's not really a "bar" in the sense of how a bar is in the USA or wherever you're from. It's more like a big room stuffed with girls who are going to walk right up to you. You don't have to worry about being shy because the girls want you to take them home and they will drive the conversation there no matter what you say to them.
I usually pay 7 or 8. As a shy guy, you'll need to be ready to hear them say something retarded like 1500 or 2000. Ignore how cute the girl is, just smile and say 700. If you go on a weekend you probably won't get 700, but anything under 1000 is fair in my opinion.
If you're in town for a while and you need someone to help you get over your nerves, PM me.
Bonzo1 has already done all the research, it would be a shame if you did not learn from his experience.
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Craig's list. Thorough investigation. Result = strong rip off.
OK, I was certain I could find a way to make this into a little gold mine, or at least pay some small dividends. I was sorely mistaken.
Over the past couple months I've tried out about 10 numbers from CG. I intentionally went for the ones that I thought were most likely to have real pictures (I. E. Not those obvious fake ones, ad said "100% really photo", etc.) , or in a few cases I just abandoned the idea that the girl would be the one in the photo and went for quality massage, service, etc.
Here are the results:
Number of photos that were real: ZERO.
Number of girls that said their photos were really, really, really real, even after questioning on phone: ALL OF THEM.
Number of girls that up-sold: ALL OF THEM.
Average price quoted on CG: 200 to 300 RMB.
Average starting asking price: 2000 (some even quoted prices for "happy" or "happy ending" online at 500 but immediately went up to 1500-2000 once in bed)
Average landing price: 1000 to 1500, and two girls left with nothing when I tried to bargain to 800.
Average quality of massage (1 to 10) : 1 (only because I didn't include zero as an option here)
Average quality of sex (1 to 10) : 5 or 6. A few did ok, none rocked my world.
Average looks for the girls: Surprisingly not bad in this category, but not nearly as good as the pictures, even the "natural looking" pictures.
Average punctuality: 30 min to 1 hour later than promised, and unbelievably three NO SHOWS (they messaged hours later saying they had been busy and could they come immediately now, but I never replied).
There seem to be a few adds on there for no up-selling (500, 700, and 800 prices listed right on the subject lines) , which are the three I didn't try since there's no way those photos are real. I should have though. Maybe I will sometime, but I'm so burned out on CG that I've had it for the time being. Anyone who has feel free to inform us.
Conclusion. Avoid CG like the plague and leave it to the business travelers who don't know any better or don't care.
Happy hunting.
. B-
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1143015]Hey this is my first time on the forum and in Shanghai. I am shy to go to bar or the massage place so I'm wondering what you guys think about the craigslist outcall? There seem to be a ton of advertisements offering oil massage for 300rmb. Is the oil massage what I think it is? Ha.
And I am wondering how safe it is to get a girl from craigslist, don't want police showing up on my door or a girl who is much worse looking than her photo! Thanks. Will write report about my experience with it if I do it. [/QUOTE]
Just another reminder for newbies who don't RTFF.
Generally 2 types of touts.
Touts at Nanjing Road / Bund are tea scam touts. They will take you to an overpriced tea house or bar where you will be charges hundreds if not thousands.
KTV touts. Promising cheap sex.
They will take you to KTV and rob you.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1143015]Hey this is my first time on the forum and in Shanghai. I am shy to go to bar or the massage place so I'm wondering what you guys think about the craigslist outcall? There seem to be a ton of advertisements offering oil massage for 300rmb. Is the oil massage what I think it is? Ha.
And I am wondering how safe it is to get a girl from craigslist, don't want police showing up on my door or a girl who is much worse looking than her photo! Thanks. Will write report about my experience with it if I do it. [/QUOTE]As others have mentioned, Craigslist is a bad option. If you don't feel like navigating the crowd at Manhattan, try something like 999. It's pretty much a point and choose and go along for the amazing ride. No "hassle or haggle" required.
[QUOTE=Steelecan; 1142013]I have been going thru the forum, but so far cannot find what I'm looking for. I will be in Shanghai in May and staying at the Marriott Courtyard Shanghai Xujiahui 100 HongQiao Road, Xuhui District · Shanghai. 200030 China. Anyone know of any MPs or BBS near hear within walking distance or just a few stops along line 1 & 9.
If possible, please give me name of the place and which stop on the metro line it is if possible. Thanks so much. I look forward to experiencing what I have read and reporting back! [/QUOTE]There is a BBS I went to last year. Walk west on Hongqiao Road, turn left onto Xuhong North Road, you will see the ladies thru the window of the BBS on the west side of the street. I went there at night and it was raining so I had my pick of about 8 girls. Most are a 5 or 6, but you may find an 8 or 9. None spoke English. Usual prices.
You can also hit the Yuanzhun Sauna in Xujiahui. At the intersection of Xietu and Nandan road on the 3rd floor. You can google the address. Just under 700 RMB.
Best of luck.
Tybao
[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow;1143340]As others have mentioned, Craigslist is a bad option. If you don't feel like navigating the crowd at Manhattan, try something like 999. It's pretty much a point and choose and go along for the amazing ride. No "hassle or haggle" required.[/QUOTE]I prefer the sauna routine too. No hassle or haggle, everything has a fixed price. Tips aren't even allowed in many sauna establishments. (You leave your wallet in the locker, and only pay at the cashier. So you won't be able to tip the lady even if you wanted to. Not unless you are willing to take her out afterwards.)
But if someone is looking for GFE or ONS, saunas like 999 aren't really the places to go. If you don't speak Chinese or Japanese, chances are you won't get a meaningful conversation with the lady. (Some of the ladies at 999 do speak fluent Japanese and / or Korean, but so far I have not met anyone who speaks decent English.) Even if you are a repeat customer, there are still routines that need to be followed. Then there is the time pressure problem, some people don't perform well when they can sense a clock is running, and some ladies will constantly remind the customer of the clock.
[QUOTE=Tasss;1141225]Anyone knows how to register on aish001? Looks like you need some kind of invitation code.[/QUOTE]Same problem here, they ask for an invitation code which I do not have. Anyone can help. Thanks a lot!
While I've passed through Shanghai a number of times, I've never spent time here. After reading the various reports I made up my list of establishments to visit on this trip. I even booked my stay at the Riverview Hotel.
This afternoon I went down to the 3rd Floor to pay a visit to the spa. Having RTFF, I knew that Tony was the guy to speak to. He was there and I mentioned that I had heard of him. He asked if it was from a friend and I told him that I had read about him on the internet. He was surprised – and I was surprised that he didn't know about ISG!
I had decided to spring for the 'knight' level of service with one of the hot girls in English racing duds. However, Tony never mentioned service levels or price.
After showering I was lead to a room and Tony came in to ask if I was ready. I told him I was and he walked me to the room where three girls were waiting in line. They did that goofy song and dance that Chinese saunas are known for. One was an 8 and had long hair. The other two were 7's. I picked one of the 7's who had a flirty nature – I decided to go with my gut rather than opt for the hotter one. Tony cut me loose there – still nothing about quality levels or price.
Once the girl had stripped, I noticed she was chunkier than I normally like – too much KFC. She did a fair strip tease interspersed with fake moaning whenever she touched herself.
She started off with a cat-bath – which I can take or leave. I let her know I would pass on that – let's just get to the action. She gave me a good BBBJ and availed herself to me for some inspection and 69. That got me going and I flipped her over for DATY. She got into it and eventually came. Unfortunately, that was about the end of the action. After that she just wanted to cuddle and sleep. I finally got across the idea that now it was my turn. She got the picture but turned in a much more lackluster performance than before.
She finally brought me to a head with CIM – and did a fine job at that. After the cleanup, she attempted a lame massage, but I motioned to her to lay down and cuddle. She promptly fell asleep. When our time was up she showed me her number and indicated I should ask for her again #689.
Out in the lobby Tony asked how it had gone. He said he really wanted to know. I told him she was just OK (I've had a lot better). At the cashier he told me the damages would be 738 RMB – including a discount. He also said that I should always call ahead to get better service and that next time he would pick a 'good one' for me. He also said that he could send the girl up to my room for the same price.
I asked him about the riding outfits and harem costumes but he didn't seem to understand what I meant. I also asked him about the levels of service I had read about, but again, he didn't seem to understand that, either.
So, considering this was my first encounter in Shanghai, I wasn't disappointed. But it could have been better. Tomorrow – Bodi!
[QUOTE=Red Rider; 1143502]While I've passed through Shanghai a number of times, I've never spent time here. After reading the various reports I made up my list of establishments to visit on this trip. I even booked my stay at the Riverview Hotel.
This afternoon I went down to the 3rd Floor to pay a visit to the spa. Having RTFF, I knew that Tony was the guy to speak to. He was there and I mentioned that I had heard of him. He asked if it was from a friend and I told him that I had read about him on the internet. He was surprised – and I was surprised that he didn't know about ISG! [/QUOTE]IMO, you shouldn't tell doormen, touts, and especially the girls about ISG. If you want to know why, take a look at the Beijing forum, which is now being inundated with touts that register and then post BS reports about girls at their website or take-out. If the girls find out, they will check on-line and get pissed if you give a bad report and then bad luck for the poor sap that picks her next and gets the brunt of her anger or even shittier service.
Yes, I've seen the shills on the Beijing forum. They are rampant. And, I agree about not telling the girls.
However, I would think that if you are in the 'business' that you would want to be aware that there is a 'TripAdvisor' for the hobby – and make sure your establishment is pleasing the clientele.
I stayed in the Jing'An temple area when I first arrived this time and all my favorite places are either closed or cleaned up. After pouting for awhile I decided to try out the string of BBSes reported on chengjia qiao lu at the intersection of jinhui lu. Arrived at 2AM. I initially approached from the south, but I would not recommend this as its a large desolated industrial area and gave me concern for safety. The Taxi driver who dropped me off was asking if I wanted to be driven all the way up, but I didn't quite understand him at the time [I was able to communicate the major intersection, but fine details like "It would be crazy to walk this alone, why don't you let me drive you all the way up, I already know what you want" are beyond me]
Passed one or two BBSes with one or two girls lightly dozing on sofas, thought I had arrived too late. When I arrived at the intersection 8ish BBSes were open and in full operation with 5-20 girls each. Some with green foot massage signs, some with pink barbershop poles, and some with just girls. What happened to the color coding system, pink barber poles don't seem to indicate FS anymore. Found one I liked, went in, quoted 300RMB but the bossy girl [she wasn't a mamason, just The one girl who spoke the most English] wanted to be paid first, which is a non-starter for me. Was unable to agree on payment post services, walked out.
Approached another BBS, taxi arrives and deposits a girl fresh from a take out, who goes inside [though, she avoids eye contact]. Find a girl who is suitable, enter, everyone is smiles, no mention of price, and off we go downstairs. Layout of the south western most BBS: 5 rooms [with doors and walls going all the way to the ceiling, spared no expense here] surrounding a staircase. Shelf-bed construction with some hardish cushion that clearly has never been cleaned on top. No paper or sheets to cover the table top. Lock door, she starts to disrobe me: At which point I ensure we are the same mind on price [Settle on 300 RMB]. Find the room has no hangers, and she folds my clothes carefully into a ball and stuffs them into the gap between the bed and the wall. Insisted on calling herself mama [she didn't look that old, I swear! She was wearing a prom dress even. ] as she applied the very cold baby wipes [with Aloe! ] to all the bits that don't like to be cold. Upsell on BBBJ [didn't realize this at the time, she just asked if I wanted it, found out at the end she had "meant" it cost extra]. Get about 5 minutes into a rather enjoyable rhythm, and she asks if I would like another girl for half price; Well given the timing, who am I to say no? And. Full stop as she runs naked back upstairs to grab her friend, shouting match ensues between the two, and eventually she comes down with a different friend, who gets comfy and. Leaves for the WC [curiously WC was the only English they knew]. So, once everyone is back in the same room, round 2 of baby wipes! ; I have to convince Ms. 2 to actually remove her clothing, which, apparently, is a odd request. BBBJ, CG and scene. Ms. 2 disappears faster then a laptop in a coffee shop, Ms. 1 applies a 3rd round of baby wipes and finishes spitting on the ground for the last time [did I mention the spitting yet? They love to spit, on the ground, near my shoes! ]; Dresses me, its all smiles on the way out, the papa tells me to visit again and out.
Overall, Standard BBS.
Area feels safe, lots of police cruising by, plenty of taxis and tricycles.
Now to find a Sauna that doesn't require me to get nude in front of other men;
[QUOTE=Null Avenger;1143672]Now to find a Sauna that doesn't require me to get nude in front of other men;[/QUOTE]I think 999 does give you that option.
Hey guys,
Its been a few years since I been to this place, any one know if its still operational? Its close by Holiday Inn Great Wall Wing and Plaza Wing. Had a few good time there. I wonder if its still open and hows it is now. I have not seen it on this forum for a while.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Red Rider;1143502]...I mentioned that I had heard of him. He asked if it was from a friend and I told him that I had read about him on the internet. He was surprised – and I was surprised that he didn't know about ISG![/QUOTE]I concur that it is absolutely a bad Idea to let service providers know about ISG. They will just muck up the board with crap.
It is bad enough that various metropolitan police departments actively read this board to know where the action is, including SH LE. The last thing we need are touts advertising here.
One time a few years ago, during a crackdown, a prominent member in Beijing posted about an invite only private party with Mongolian girls, and the police were waiting for them with a paddy wagon. Yes, it was a big mess.
Also, in the past some girls have found this site through members and they eventually realized pictures were posted.
MAB
CL is a waste of time, don't bother. Mostly rip off pros posting.
MAB
[QUOTE=Carage;1143690]I think 999 does give you that option.[/QUOTE]The plan 'B' option at Dream Spa does as well. I think it's ~1200RMB
[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow;1143340]As others have mentioned, Craigslist is a bad option. If you don't feel like navigating the crowd at Manhattan, try something like 999.[/QUOTE]I had a wander through Manhattan last Saturday night, first time there for me. What an interesting selection of people to be met.
One of the barmen tried to pull the old "here's your change for 50. No, you didn't give me 100" routine, didn't even try to look embarrassed when I called him on it. Buyer beware, every step of the way!
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee; 1143813]CL is a waste of time, don't bother. Mostly rip off pros posting.
MAB[/QUOTE]CL is a waste of time stateside also.
I'm headed for Shanghai end of April, staying on Nanjing East Road at 5-star hotel. First time in Shanghai.
Been reading this forum for a couple days and would appreciate some tips where to go and how to get there.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Drenas1985;1143963]Been reading this forum for a couple days and would appreciate some tips where to go and how to get there.[/QUOTE]Try reading the forum for a couple more days and you'll have all the tips you need
[QUOTE=Drenas1985; 1143963]CL is a waste of time stateside also.
I'm headed for Shanghai end of April, staying on Nanjing East Road at 5-star hotel. First time in Shanghai.
Been reading this forum for a couple days and would appreciate some tips where to go and how to get there.
Thanks! [/QUOTE]A couple tips: Rather than go thought millions of posts, If you like sauna, you can search for sauna. If you like KTV, you ca search for KTV. If you like a specific poster, you may right click the name and you get all the posts by that dude. Enjoy your time in SH.
JB
Anyone know any current BBS locations near downtown Shanghai? Or neighboring areas?
Anyway I decided to stroll around Zhabei, figuring there must be a string of BBS's in there somewhere. I didn't find a string, but I did find one single location. Wujin and Jiangxi are the cross streets. Place is familair pink lighting illuminating from a spot that's about halfway down the block. West from the intersection mentioned. Was open at 3am. Usual price. Almost usual deal (the girl led me through a back door, out the building, down an alley, into a room she had the key to). The event was like what one expects from BBS.
Hi,
New to the forum and new to the MP scene in SH. Interested in oily massage with HE, but prefer to avoid locker / waiting room scene.
On Wuzhong lu I noticed a place that I think was called Hansa Massage Club. Is this really a club, or open to anyone with no surcharge etc. Is it similar to the one's across the street from it? If anyone has been, I'd be interested in reading what it is like.
If I make it back that way, I may give it a try and report.
Thanks!
Got into Shanghai airport (Pudong) at 6:00 am and grabbed a taxi to my hotel, the Sheraton Hongqiao, which is on the west side of town. (Can't recall what it cost, but not too much and had to show the driver the address in Chinese) I had confirmed with Dragon, who I had arranged for a "night tour", that I would be arriving early, taking a nap, and then would like to hit the town around 6:30 pm or so. He was responsive about answering e-mails and we worked out a plan around what I was interested in:
1) Pink lights / BBS: I like these places for a change. Most of the girls are not that hot, but if you look around you can usually find a fresh one that meets my interests: 18-24 yo, thin, decent tits, and nice face. From there it is a bit of crapshoot what type of service you'll get, but these young girls are pretty fresh from the farm and so some of the fun is seeing what you can convince them to do. Naturally, I speak no Chinese, so that makes it harder.
2) Then grab dinner.
3) Off to a sauna for what I expect will be a much higher quality service, but perhaps more mechanical. I've RTFF and have the usual names (Sarcosa. 999, etc.) but am going to take Dragon's suggestion since that is why I am paying him. Expecting to find, hoping to find, a hot looking Chinese.
4) Lastly, if I have some juice left, swing by Manhattan or another bar to see if we can find a sweet young thing for LT. Expecting this to be a Filipina or Vietnamese, both of which I like. Most posts say not much happening here until 10:30 or so. Plan is to get there pretty close to then and then get a girl and get back to hotel by 11:00 pm since I have an early business meeting.
Dragon met me at the hotel, was actually early, which was nice. He is half Chinese, raised in the west, and fluent in English, Mandarin, Shanghaiese, and another dialect or two.
First stop: Pink lights / BBS: We grabbed a taxi and he directed the driver to a street somewhere in the middle of the urban area – I couldn't really follow where we were and didn't worry about it. The driver needed pretty detailed directions and corrections so I don't get the feeling I couldn't have handed him a slip of paper and he could have gotten me there, so Dragon was helpful.
We got out and I could see there were a few shops with curtains and pink lights. Dragon said that there had been a raid a while ago and three-quarters of the shops were gone, but some new ones had opened or old ones reopened. (He assured me that the raids just target the owners and he wasn't aware of any patrons being hassled – he has been in Shanghai for 7 or 8 years and pretty close to the P4P scene so I guess he is as good a source as any. Anyway, I felt comfortable.) He had a favourite shop or two but I checked out some others on my own.
Usual deal, walk into small store front with curtains and pink or white lights. See 4-8 girls sitting around watching TV or on their phones, some dressed to kill, some in their pyjamas. Most not especially attractive to me and I browsed through 4 shops without finding anything of interest. Asked Dragon if there were another areas for more Pinks – I guess they move around a bit and between the Expo and some raids they have popped up in new places.
So got another cab and Dragon directed the driver to another darkish street about 10 minutes away. Finally in 6th shop there was a young looking, thin, light-skinned girl about average height with a pretty face – I'the give her body a 8+/10 and face 8/10. Dragon talked to the mamasan in Chinese and confirmed that BBBJ was on the menu – a must for me and I was led by the hand into the back. The girl gestured for me to wait and she went up to a ceiling to floor empty wooden bookshelf which to my surprise, she slide to the right opening into a stair well. Cool! Very 007 but in a low-tech brothel way.
We went upstairs and into a hall that had a half dozen doors, she opened the first one and we went into a small room with a single bed. Everything looked clean, but certainly not posh – plywood walls & bed with cheap foam mattress, no bathroom or sink, not much paint, but clean sheets. She locks the door and then gestures at my crotch like she wants to see my dick. I'm like 'show me yours and I'll show you mine' but I whip it out and she looks it over – seems to meet with her approval. Not sure if she was looking for cleanliness or making sure it wasn't too big.
(Some of these girls seem to have enormous fears of enormous dicks that will almost kill them. Dragon said there was a rumour going around about some country girl who made the mistake of going back to the hotel of a western man. She was found in the morning unconscious and bleeding from her pussy. Who knows?)
My girl takes off half of her clothes – her bra and panties, but leaves on the very short skirt and skimpy top and I undress and she pulls out a baby wipe and cleans my cock, then gives me a little lame BBBJ for about 60 seconds and then pulls out a rubber – I say no way, she implies yes must have condom, I say no way. So then the most bizarre thing happens: she nods ok no condom, I think we'll go back to BBBJ, but she proceeds to pull out a piece of plastic food wrap and tries to wrap that around my meat like, well, like it was a piece of meat going back into the fridge. At that point, I can see this is going nowhere and I put my clothes back on. She seems cool with that and dresses and we go down stairs.
I explain to Dragon the situation and say that she won't do a BBBJ. We are just about to leave, (and I think we could have without paying anything) , when I notice another slim, young, girl back in a corner. I ask about her. Dragon talks with the mamasan and the girl, who seems fine with the terms.
Girl number 2, Mimi (?) is about 20, slim with B cups, flawless skin, and sweet face. We go back to the same room, passing through the sliding bookcase, which I now see can be hooked closed from the inside. She, like the other girl won't fully undress, but she takes off all the necessary bits. She has a very sweet body, incredibly tight, young, and soft skin. Her pussy, like all I have met in China, is unshaved but she has light and fine hair down there, silky and very thin. When I lay her down she puts her arms over her head and I can see that she doesn't shave under her arms, but again it is this super light, downy soft, very short peach fuzz hair and actually kinda turns me on. (She is clearly of age before anyone starts thinking other things.)
Unlike a lot of Asian girls, her pussy has nice thick lips and a pink, rather than brown, skin tones. Very nice. She gives pretty good oral, but not great, still enough for me. She balks when I want to finger that sweet little twat and clearly wants me to just fuck her and be done. So I pull out a 100 rmb ($15) and put it on the table. She settles down and lets me do pretty much what I want but needs some coaxing and cajouling. I generally have found if you are willing to tip, are firm, but polite, eventually the girl will warm-up a bit and do what you want. Even if you don't speak a common language.
When I finally get my finger in her, I don't know if I can get back, she is that tight. (I brought some lubricant along and was happy I did) Anyway, eventually I fuck her, slowly at first – cause it takes her young pussy a while to stretch. In a couple of positions and cum doggy style. Very satisfying. I let her keep the 100, actually I have to take it off the table and put it in her hand, she seemed reluctant to take it, not sure why. Downstairs I give her another 300 RMB. Probably only needed to pay 200, but I liked her and she spent more time than normal with me. Not GFE but not the usual cold slam-bam-thank-you. If I were in town for longer, I would certainly repeat and I expect I could have built some trust. Dragon says most of the Chinese guys are in and out in 20 minutes or less and that's what the girls expect. So paying a little more, getting better service, and having her for an hour doesn't bother me. $60 well spent, IMHO.
Dragon has been saying that he thinks the sauna will give me exactly what I want and so after a meal at the local Hooters, we head out for his favourite place on the west side: Waves. I hadn't heard of this from the forum and ask about the other more frequently mentioned places like 999, Sacrosa, etc. He says we can try those, but they are a long drive from where we are and we might as well have a look.
Wave seems like a Macao-style place, but I haven't been to other mainland China saunas, so may be there is no difference. Anyway, we arrive at a check in desk – everyone knows Dragon and says Hi, we go up to the lockerroom and change into a pair of pajamas. Dragon says he'll help me until I find a girl but will be waiting for me in one the resting tea rooms when I finish. The place is not crowded at 9:00 pm on a Sunday night. A few Japanese and Chinese, no other round eyes besides me.
Go to a fish bowl. There were about 10 girls, most 7+. I had asked Dragon if there was anyone he recommended and he had two numbers which I have forgot, but one was something like 678 who he says is a squirter – two fingers long and hard in her and eventually she'll just flood. That sounded interesting since I've never personally experienced this (actually thought squirters were a bit of a myth). Anyway his recommended girls were not there, so I found two that looked skinny enough for my taste and possible B+/C cups depending on the pushup bra they were wearing. I asked the papasam for a recommendation between the two, he didn't hesitate and said '# 906'
She came out, took my hand and we went up in the elevator to the 3rd or 4th floor and into a nice room. One half is a firm bed divided by a mirrored glass wall from a soapy shower table and a normal shower. Undressed her and she me and she gave me a nice shower, then covered the soapy table with a large piece of thin plastic that provided a nice sanitary barrier. Laid me on my face and began the normal wash my feet, legs, ass, and back with her C cup tits, nice little nipples that firmed up. Then did the whole thing again with her hairy pussy – nice sort of rough Brillo pad scrubbing and defoliating. Did the flip and repeated on my front side with nice long strokes over my cock. Plenty of opportunities for fondling and fingering. No kissing. She then rinsed me off and lead me around to the bed.
Usual licking and cat bath before she started sucking. Petty good oral, certainly well trained. I then stood up on the bed and got her on sitting on her knees so that I could fuck her face and get her to suck my balls. She resisted this a bit – could tell that normally she deals with passive guys who just let themselves be 'seduced'. But after a bit I got her taking it with my hands on her head and her hands by her side. I like it when the girl can take it a little deep and her mouth gets really wet and slippery from a near gag. After that some normal mish sex, a bit sideways, and finished with doggy. Nice watching her profile in the mirror as those tits were swinging as I pounded her ass.
Conclusion – very pretty girl, good / great service, everything but anal on the menu. However, it was a bit mechanical. I will say she had a gorgeous pussy with pink lips and a thick clit nicely hooded. DATY was nice and I usually don't do much of that. If you are looking for a straight forward sexual adventure with a good looking girl, this sauna at least delivered it. Would definitely repeat with her – didn't get a name but number is 906.
After that washed up and the girl lead me to a private room with a couple of big arm chairs and a TV where Dragon was waiting eating some fruit. He hadn't had a girl and was just chilling while I finished. Went down and paid the price that was listed on the board. 885 RMB or so I think. I am fairly confident that Dragon wasn't getting any kickbacks, but if they slipped him something, it didn't change the price I had paid. I got a card from Waves – but the only ones where only in Chinese so I really can't read anything but the phone number: 6275 9948
i was stilling feeling frisky and asked about another street with some pinks to troll through before going to manhatten, but dragon said nothing was very close and as i had a deadline of being back at my hotel my 11:30, bird in hand, i let it go. we took a cab straight there.
manhattan was looking very good at 10:30 on a sunday night. the bar is medium sized with a small dance floor in the back and a long bar on the right hand side as you enter. (the location is well described in other threads). the bar had maybe 100+ girls in groups of 3-5 around stand up tables with high chairs. music was not to loud. as usual, everybody know dragon and said hi. as noted elsewhere 100% of the talent in the bar are foreign girls, mostly vietnamese, filipinas, some other se asian girls. there were maybe 15-20 guys max, so 5:1 ratio.
this was a pretty high quality mix of girls compared to what you might find on the 4 floors of working girls in singapore or in martinis in pp, cambodia, but not as high-end as the girls at the grand hyatt, singapore.
it was a decent atmosphere, not too loud, or too smokey. i cruised around the bar several times and saw several possibles. my preference is for slim girls with decent tits and seeing this in a dark bar environment is generally hard. most of the filapinas, while offering nice tits and gfe smiles seemed a little short and chunky for my taste. kinda was looking for a mongolian or maybe a russian or slavic girl for a change, but they were pretty much 99% southeast asian, ranging from 6 – 9s.
dragon had sat down at a table of vietnamese near the front door and had a bottle of johnny walker black sitting in front of him – never figured where that came from. so i joined him and checked out the group. after getting a couple of the girls to sit in my lap or stand between my legs so i could run my hand over their bodies and separate the thin from the those with stomach paunch, i found a nice looking vietnamese who said she was 22. i asked about her family and confirmed that she didn't have a baby – it is such a disappointment to get one of these girls home and find a belly of stretchmarks. she had very pale skin and was from hanoi. said this was her second trip to china and was 5 days into a 30 day visa. i like it when the girls have a little experience – second trip shows that they know what is expected and are willing to come back to the job a second time. i've been with some first trip girls in singapore or in hong kong and it can be bad – they don't really want to be there and are just waiting out their visa before going home.
and so the negotiations began for lt. she wanted 2000 and i offered 1000. after walking away and coming back i hoped she might accept 1000 but she never offered less than 2000. eventually, tiring of the game, i just grabbed her hand and said '1500 lets go' and we did.
'leah' had a respectable dress on and so i just escorted her past the doorman and into the elevator at the sheraton with no problem. she asked for the money up front and i had to explain to her that wasn't the way it worked. she played shy in the room and undressed and showered.
when she got out i showered myself and came out to find her naked across the top of the bed. body was great looking but her hits were very small – fooled again by those damn padded bras that they all seem to were. i guess the lesson is that if they aint showing real cleavage, they don't have it. anyway, she was a really sweet thing and extremely flexiable. very gfe including some light dfk. made the usual remark about comparing my dick to her thin arm – 'same same' but, when i got inside her it was clear she could handle it – she was an easy 2 fingers and deep. decent bbbj, but some resistance to face-fucking, couldn't take more than a couple of inches. in the end fucked her a few different ways with some convincing moans from her speeding me to end.
she then asked me for the money again – i explained that i would pay her in the morning and not to worry about it. couldn't really tell if she was worried i wouldn't pay or wanted to just leave early. after a little back and forth, i said hell, i'll give you half now and half in the morning. seemed fair to me and if she left it wouldn't be the end of the world as i was pretty tired from the evening. but she stayed and it was nice to have that thin young body next to me, kept waking up feeling her.
finally around 5:00 am i couldn't keep my hands off her and started playing with her pussy, which began to get nicely wet. in fact i could feel a pool of pussy juice building up in the bottom of her twat as i fingered her harder. that got me off so much i just blew across her body. she laid with me a while then cleaned up and dressed. i paid her the rest of the money and she left. (sorry i forgot to get her number as i was leaving in the morning)
conclusion: aside from the asking for $$, a fairly sweet gfe experience
Wrap-up for the night: three different girls and three very different experiences each offering something different (as detailed in the 3 prior posts)
* PINK LIGHT GIRL. Probably the most exciting body – very fresh, young, tight, but the most forced service – needed some persuading and wasn't used to what I wanted, but eventually complied; took her into some new territory; best fuck, sweetest young body. Atmosphere of the place was decidely down-scale, a little edgy, but clean.
The Pinks are an experience that one doesn't find outside of China, although they are a little similiar to brothels in Cambodia, but much cleaner. The Pinks are certainly the cheapest option. 300-500 RMB, but there is huge range of quality from grandmothers to fresh young girls, and a lot of variability in the service depending on you and the girl you choose. The most challenging but, potentially rewarding depending on your tastes and style.
* SAUNA GIRL (Waves, #906) was most complete service, best BBBJ, very hot girl – probably the most traditionally pretty, but a bit mechanical, could tell she had done it all a hundred times before.
Sauna are a very "controlled" atmosphere, up-scale, clean, safe-feeling. Best place to see in advance what you are getting due to the well-lighted fish bowl and generally skimpy clothing. Very similiar to the Macao-type saunas, but with fewer menu options (e. G. No special "ball massage" girl). Easiest option for a newbie and highest likelihood of good experience with a hottie, but expect mechanical and hope for GFE."Reasonable" price for Shanghai of 800-900 RMB. (US$100)
* MANHATTEN GIRL / Leah – pretty, but #3 compared to the other 2 girls of the night, still a solid 8+/10 if you don't mind the small tits, most GFE service, relaxed, unhurried, cuddly, and she spoke English which the other two didn't. Bars were the only option for LT. And, there is something nice about having the girl in your hotel room so you can just stay in bed and she leaves. But picking the girl is always a bit of potluck since you can't see them that well but you can talk with them to get a sense of connection. So high chance that you'll get a GFE experience, but more risk in the type of body and looks you'll find when you have her undressed and in the light of the bedroom. At 1500 RMB (US$182) most expensive, unless you really want to bargain. Which blows a lot of time, but might save you 500 RMB.
I could repeat with only one, I would try the Pink Light girl again and see if I could build on how far she went. If you like variety in your evenings, I can recommend the full menu, but it will cost you.
Total damage was 3, 500 RMB / US$425 (including 800 for Dragon) which while much (much) higher than I normally spend was acceptable considering the circumstances of limited time, one night, and a desire to see a lot. It was 3 girls (2 ST. 1 LT) over 12 hours. 4 pops, and covered much what was available in Shanghai. Still missed an escort girl (will try that in Beijing) and a KTV which I hate so nothing missed there for me.
A last comment on Dragon. His fee was 800, but he covered all the transport costs, I picked up his dinner. He is nice guy and knows the P4P scene like the back of his hand. His Chinese and knowledge of locations was essential for me getting the full range of experiences that I was after in an efficient 4 hours or so. He is a straight shooter guy, good company, and not trying to hustle anyone. I would recommend him for sure if you want to try the pinks, as I think you might struggle to find these unless you live in Shanghai and have plenty of time or if the board has some current locations and you can speak Chinese. If you already know what sauna you want and can get a taxi driver there (a lot of these drivers have no clue where anything is even major hotels, even if you have a map and an address – it's like they just moved to Shanghai which, of course, most did) or if you are just hoping to pickup something at Manhatten's then you can probably do fine solo.
[QUOTE=SteelBaton;1144166]Sauna are a very "controlled" atmosphere, up-scale, clean, safe-feeling. Best place to see in advance what you are getting due to the well-lighted fish bowl and generally skimpy clothing. Very similiar to the Macao-type saunas, but with fewer menu options (e. G. No special "ball massage" girl). Easiest option for a newbie and highest likelihood of good experience with a hottie, but expect mechanical and hope for GFE."Reasonable" price for Shanghai of 800-900 RMB. (US$100)[/QUOTE]Nice detailed report you got there, glad you tried so many options on a single trip.
I only go to saunas so I can only comment on the sauna part.
The "ball massage" is actually there, but it doesn't come until afterwards and it costs extra.
I've never been to Wave, but I was given the impression that Wave / 999 / Bodi / Southern and two other outfits in Shanghai actually belong to the same owner (s). So I would assume the business model is the same.
If you want a ball massage, you get that after the "massage" and when you are sitting in the waiting room to relax by requesting a foot massage. The foot massage lady will then try to upsell you to the option which includes the ball massage along with the regular leg massage. (price ranges from 300 500RMB, takes about an hour total)
The foot massage lady would assume you would want a HE as a result of the ball massage, but you can tell her (assuming communication is not an issue) that you don't want another shot. Instead she will focus on your inner thighs and the area surrounding the balls. Which can work wonders when done properly.
Some outfits like Heting Elite, has the ball massage sort of part of the package, but it doesn't occur always due to time limitations and other factors. Hint* After you finish your thing on bed, the massage lady is supposed to get hot towels and some sort of heated bean bag for you. When they give that to you, they are supposed to give you a massage including your balls. (They actually call it Shen Bao Jian or Kidney Exercise) But if there is a time management issue or some other issue (like communication or if they are simply too tired) , then it might or might not happen.
After a day of exploring Shanghai, I taxied out to Bodi. From the south end of the Bund it was only 30 RMB for the fare.
I arrived about 6:30 and knew I had missed the early-bird discount. However, I was certainly not disappointed with the selection!
After stashing my clothes and showering, the manager lead me down a maze of hallways to the 'fishbowl'. Somehow I was expecting it to be like a Macau fishbowl with one-way glass or something. But, no! It was a long narrow, brightly lit room with about 40 beauties lined up.
The selection was overwhelming but I would say that 80% of the girls were outstanding – and the rest, certainly doable. As I gazed up and down the lineup, quite a few would make eye contact and smile or give a small wave. It pretty well dismissed the myth that the girls don't want to service white guys.
The manager was anxious for me to make my decision. He was trying to up-sell me on two girls as I was trying to ignore him and figure out which one I wanted. I finally picked one girl who was in front of me and who smiled very nicely whenever I checked her out. I told the manager her number. He said it out-loud and a different girl stepped out of line. She was even better looking than the one I picked, so I didn't correct him. And, a good misunderstanding it was, too!
#560 lead me to the elevator and upstairs to the room. She was a true beauty and had a long, lithe body and beautiful long hair. She was a sight to behold. As has been mentioned here before, the session starts with a shower and then moves to a 'shower bed' upon which you get your soapy slide with the girl. This was my first time for this and I really enjoyed it. It makes a nice change from the standard sauna routine.
After that we dried off and moved to the 'dry bed' to commence the action. I'll have to say, this girl gave me one of the best BBBJs ever! She took her time and was really good. Following the action and conclusion, she washed me again in the shower and then walked me back to the elevator to say goodbye. In the lobby the manager checked to make sure I was satisfied – I was! They were even kind enough to summon a taxi for the return to the hotel.
Everything about Bodi was first-rate. In contrast to my experience the night before at the Riverview, Bodi wins, hands-down. Totally professional and a great experience. Oh – and don't forget #560!
Nice report, RR.
Can anyone comment on other facilities at Bodi, hot tub, sauna, foot massage, foot? Is there a relaxation area?
BSK.
[QUOTE=Red Rider; 1144358]After a day of exploring Shanghai, I taxied out to Bodi. From the south end of the Bund it was only 30 RMB for the fare.
Everything about Bodi was first-rate. In contrast to my experience the night before at the Riverview, Bodi wins, hands-down. Totally professional and a great experience. Oh – and don't forget #560! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1144373]Nice report, RR.
Can anyone comment on other facilities at Bodi, hot tub, sauna, foot massage, foot? Is there a relaxation area?
BSK. [/QUOTE]There is a large jacuzzi, you may need to ask the attendant to turn on the jet streams if they didn't do that already.
Next to the jacuzzi pool is a wooden sauna / steam room. There is also a room with two massage tables. Chinese back scrub service is available, where a very strong Chinese guy is going to rub your skin with a towel for a deep clean (10 15 minutes process). Most Westerners would skip that for health and privacy concerns, but Asians usually appreciate it. The back scrub service itself shouldn't cost extra, but the powder they rub on you at the end might cost extra, although it is probably a trivial amount, so I didn't really bother to make sure. After the massage guy rubs the powder (usually a mixture of sea salt and fragrances) , it is recommended that you spend at least three minutes in the steam sauna then rinse off in the shower stations.
These services are available after shower and before you enter the main waiting area.
After the "main event", you would be led back to the main waiting area. You can request to get a foot massage or ear wax removal. Both of these options will cost extra. I think the minimal charge is like 128 RMB for the first 15 minutes. The service ladies and / or staff would usually try to upsell you for the package that includes a ball massage and HE. Anyway total cost of the foot massage package can add up to 500 RMB for approximately an hours worth of service. At Bodi, you can almost always get a private room if you have trouble getting your private parts serviced in front of other customers. They have a lot of rooms in the relaxation area.
As usual, food and beverages is free and all you can order in the relaxation area. Cigarettes and alcohol would incur extra charges though. But you are usually allowed to bring your own pack of cigarettes.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1144432]There is a large jacuzzi, you may need to ask the attendant to turn on the jet streams if they didn't do that already.
Next to the jacuzzi pool is a wooden sauna / steam room. There is also a room with two massage tables. Chinese back scrub service is available, where a very strong Chinese guy is going to rub your skin with a towel for a deep clean (10 15 minutes process). Most Westerners would skip that for health and privacy concerns, but Asians usually appreciate it. The back scrub service itself shouldn't cost extra, but the powder they rub on you at the end might cost extra, although it is probably a trivial amount, so I didn't really bother to make sure. After the massage guy rubs the powder (usually a mixture of sea salt and fragrances) , it is recommended that you spend at least three minutes in the steam sauna then rinse off in the shower stations.
These services are available after shower and before you enter the main waiting area.
After the "main event", you would be led back to the main waiting area. You can request to get a foot massage or ear wax removal. Both of these options will cost extra. I think the minimal charge is like 128 RMB for the first 15 minutes. The service ladies and / or staff would usually try to upsell you for the package that includes a ball massage and HE. Anyway total cost of the foot massage package can add up to 500 RMB for approximately an hours worth of service. At Bodi, you can almost always get a private room if you have trouble getting your private parts serviced in front of other customers. They have a lot of rooms in the relaxation area.
As usual, food and beverages is free and all you can order in the relaxation area. Cigarettes and alcohol would incur extra charges though. But you are usually allowed to bring your own pack of cigarettes. [/QUOTE]A comment on the back scrub. It is not just back scrub, it is the whole body deep cleanning. He will clean up every inch of you body with a rough towel, scrub off the dead skin. I try to have this done every time I go the China, every 6 months. You will find a lot fo stuff will come off your skin and you will feel a lot lighter after it is done.
Enjoy.
JB
Spent 10 days in Shanghai on a business trip 2 weeks ago. And unfortunately. Only got to relax for 3 nights. Work was a real interference! Finally got some time on Friday & Saturday night. So moved hotels to a 5 star near Malones & Manhattan. To minimize time lost due to taxis!
Friday night, finished with a business dinner around 10:30, so took a shower & walked over to Manhattan. Passed by Malones. And saw several older, but attractive Chinese / Phillipine girls going in. Put that in the database for later. Arrived@Manhattan. And it was packed. Grabbed a beer, wondered around. Mostly vietnamese, some icicle princesses. But some looked like potential material. Found a chair against the wall in front of the door. Giving me a great view of the festivities. Made contact with a couple of beautiful women. Both Viet- but not a good vibe. Finally spotted a short (158 cm) girl with great eyes, nice conservative dress, short brown hair. And an intoxicating smile. Also Vietnamese. But definitely not the 'ice princess type'. Talked as much as you could (very loud music). But finally agreed to LT, starting at 2, 000 RMB, settling for 1, 200 RMB at around 1 AM. A little higher than I wanted. But she did look like fun.
Back to the hotel. No problem getting in. And up to the room. We undressed. She jumped in the shower. And then I did, coming back to her lying seductively in the bed. Without shoes, she is not taller than 150, but still great eyes, B cup, and incredibly energetic. We spent the next 90 minutes in multiple positions. With a couple of finishes for me (very rare. Normally I need more 'rest'). Definite high activity porn-star material. We then went to sleep. And I awoke to her giving me an incredible BBBJ at around 8:30. And for the next hour had more of a leisurely, playful, GFE experience. She left around 10, lettimg me know she would be at Manhattan that night. I spent the day sightseeing, fully intending a 'different' girls that night.
Started out around 9 with dinner at Malones. Did not find anything interesting by 11, so went to China GoGo (around the corner from Manhattan). Don't bother. A typical girl's bar. With not so attractive girls.
Moved onto Big Bamboo. Had a beer & played some foosball. But no action, so headed next store to Manhattan. On the street right in front, was offered a 'young girl' for 400 RMB in my room. I passed.
Manhattan was even more crowded. Grabbed a beer & slowly made my way around. The talent seemed better- but also more expensive. Tried to negotiated a couple of times, but 1, 200 for ST & 2, 000 for LT was a hard number for anything worthwhile. Around 2. Made another round, prices came down. But not much. Until I ran into last nights main event. And she looked even better tonight. We quickly came to a ST agreement for 800. Back to the room for a continuation of the GFE session. 3 hours later, I let her go, knowing I had to be at the airport by 10 AM.
While I normally to not go for a repeat. She was just what I needed. And proof that it is the person. Not the nationality. Manhattan is a sure deal. But not the only deal in town. See the Bodi hotel review later in the week.
Will
After a quick trip to Malaysia, back in Shanghai on Wednesday. My last night in Last night in China, decided to try out the Bodi Hotel. For both the hotel & the sauna. Found a great rate on the Asian booking site (<$90 for a king room). Excellent hotel, small, but great room, good excersize room, although it is remote. In the center of a residential area. 1 km from the nearest ATM or subway station, and any bar. There is a bar in the lobby- but I was the only patron at 10 PM (Wednesday night.). I would stay again. But primarily because of the sauna.
This was the 3rd mongering experience of the trip. And it was exceptional. I arrived about 6:45 (after a light dinner). This was my second sauna experience in China, and even though this had less english. It was still very enjoyable. Took me to a locker, where you undressed, putting all your clothes & valuables in a double-key locker (they keep one, you keep the other). You can take phone, cigarettes, etc. With you (I had none.). Over to the shower (they leave you alone to do this!) , dry off, into shorts & robe & into the waiting room. Had a beer, waited about 20 minutes, and a young lady guided me down a maze of hallways to the fishbowl. Actually a wide, narrow, brightly lite room with 35-40 mostly beautiful girls lined up. I was first of a group of 4 men. And it was like a deer (me) in the headlights. All were doable. And about half made eye contact & half of them smiled. You couldn't go wrong from a looks standpoint. Finally settled on 561. A tall (5' 6"?) , thin, brunette, well proportioned B cup. And a classic Chinese model look. Impressive!
She stepped out to the side of the room where she took my hand & led me to the elevator & upstairs to the room. She took me into the shower room. Takes off here limited lingerie. And I know I made the right choice. She takes off my robe, is fascinated with the hair on my body. And is playful throughout the shower, the soapy slide (both her breasts & her rear). She is not shaved. But trimmed. Interesting & very relaxing.
After she dries us off, we move into the dry room for the main event. Even though she speaks no english. She is playful & with hand 'guides' we make it through. She gave me an incredible BBBJ (complete deep throat) , taking her time, stopping occassionally to let me calm down, with full kissing in the interim. Finally, she gets on top. And we finish about 12 minutes later. We had 10 minutes left, so she started a massage. Full 90 minutes. We clean up, she leads me to the elevator & we part. Overall, very playful, fun session!
Back in the changing area, the locker folks meet me at my locker, I get dressed, and pay the 'tourist' rate (798 RMB). Didn't argue. It was worth it. And I slept well that night.
This was an excellent way to end the trip. And I highly recommend the spa!
Will
[QUOTE=Jude Bright; 1144570]A comment on the back scrub. It is not just back scrub, it is the whole body deep cleanning. He will clean up every inch of you body with a rough towel, scrub off the dead skin. I try to have this done every time I go the China, every 6 months. You will find a lot fo stuff will come off your skin and you will feel a lot lighter after it is done.
Enjoy.
JB[/QUOTE]You are right, the back scrub is really a misnomer. It is actually a full body scrub.
But even if Chinese it is called Ca Bei or back scrub. Funny.
Thanks Carage.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1144432]There is a large jacuzzi, you may need to ask the attendant to turn on the jet streams if they didn't do that already.
Next to the jacuzzi pool is a wooden sauna / steam room. There is also a room with two massage tables. Chinese back scrub service is available, where a very strong Chinese guy is going to rub your skin with a towel for a deep clean (10 15 minutes process). Most Westerners would skip that for health and privacy concerns, but Asians usually appreciate it. The back scrub service itself shouldn't cost extra, but the powder they rub on you at the end might cost extra, although it is probably a trivial amount, so I didn't really bother to make sure. After the massage guy rubs the powder (usually a mixture of sea salt and fragrances) , it is recommended that you spend at least three minutes in the steam sauna then rinse off in the shower stations.
These services are available after shower and before you enter the main waiting area.
After the "main event", you would be led back to the main waiting area. You can request to get a foot massage or ear wax removal. Both of these options will cost extra. I think the minimal charge is like 128 RMB for the first 15 minutes. The service ladies and / or staff would usually try to upsell you for the package that includes a ball massage and HE. Anyway total cost of the foot massage package can add up to 500 RMB for approximately an hours worth of service. At Bodi, you can almost always get a private room if you have trouble getting your private parts serviced in front of other customers. They have a lot of rooms in the relaxation area.
As usual, food and beverages is free and all you can order in the relaxation area. Cigarettes and alcohol would incur extra charges though. But you are usually allowed to bring your own pack of cigarettes. [/QUOTE]
What is the best way to get to Bodi and then later that night to Manhatten. I'm staying at Hilton.
I'm thinking TAxi, but how do I give them the instructions? Will they know if I give them the Google description:
Bodi Boutique Hotel shanghai-pudong.
Longyang Road Motorway Interchange.
Pudong Xinqu, Shanghai, China. 200127.
Just a question.
Seems the hotel has an attached massage place on hte 4th FL.
Anyone any experience on it?
[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1144642]What is the best way to get to Bodi and then later that night to Manhatten. I'm staying at Hilton.
I'm thinking TAxi, but how do I give them the instructions? Will they know if I give them the Google description:
Bodi Boutique Hotel shanghai-pudong.
Longyang Road Motorway Interchange.
Pudong Xinqu, Shanghai, China. 200127.
Just a question. [/QUOTE]You should probably print it out with Google Maps.
If you just give them the address, chances are the taxi driver won't know.
Bodi is located in a rather strange place.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1144838]You should probably print it out with Google Maps.
If you just give them the address, chances are the taxi driver won't know.
Bodi is located in a rather strange place. [/QUOTE]My experience has been that very few SH taxi drivers know what a map is!
Better option: Have your hotel write out a destination slip for the taxi.
Even better option: Somebody post a scan of the Bodi business card, showing the street location as a little sketch. Most taxi drivers seem to be able to recognize these simplified maps, and all of us can benefit from them.
- J
In Shanghai the back scrub is something I get about once a month, maybe with greater frequency. If you have explored US Korean Spa's or saunas some of them have a routine which is close to this. In the US you may have to ask for it. She will scrub you with a scratchy mitt and then spray you with warm, not hot water. Wakes up all of the body. If you know the provider she may bring in a little milk and honey, before you leave the shower area. Talk about preparation. And the finish is a total body experience.
Here is a map and directions to Bodi in Chinese that I found before coming over.
Print it out and hand it to the taxi driver.
For those who have read about all the popular places in Shanghai but haven't seen them, I'm attaching daytime photos of Big Bamboo, Manhattan and Malone's.
Great reports the past couple of days. Glad you enjoyed yourself and shared with the rest of us. Your reports help make the Shanghai thread exciting again.
MD40
I'm rather new to the site and would also want express my thanks to great reports lately. Especially SteelBaton's very detail one. From his report I'm only wondering what is the Chinese address of the "Waves" Sauna and how to get there?
If there was a prize for best and most informative contributions Red Rider would win hands down
Thanks! Just 'paying back' for all the helpful information I've received on this forum from others ahead of me.
[QUOTE=Willa1; 1144590]Spent 10 days in Shanghai on a business trip 2 weeks ago. And unfortunately. Only got to relax for 3 nights. Work was a real interference! Finally got some time on Friday & Saturday night. So moved hotels to a 5 star near Malones & Manhattan. To minimize time lost due to taxis!
Friday night, finished with a business dinner around 10:30, so took a shower & walked over to Manhattan. Passed by Malones. And saw several older, but attractive Chinese / Phillipine girls going in. Put that in the database for later. [email]Arrived@Manhattan.[/email] And it was packed. Grabbed a beer, wondered around. Mostly vietnamese, some icicle princesses. But some looked like potential material. Found a chair against the wall in front of the door. Giving me a great view of the festivities. Made contact with a couple of beautiful women. Both Viet- but not a good vibe. Finally spotted a short (158 cm) girl with great eyes, nice conservative dress, short brown hair. And an intoxicating smile. Also Vietnamese. But definitely not the 'ice princess type'. Talked as much as you could (very loud music). But finally agreed to LT, starting at 2, 000 RMB, settling for 1, 200 RMB at around 1 AM. A little higher than I wanted. But she did look like fun.
Back to the hotel. No problem getting in. And up to the room. We undressed. She jumped in the shower. And then I did, coming back to her lying seductively in the bed. Without shoes, she is not taller than 150, but still great eyes, B cup, and incredibly energetic. We spent the next 90 minutes in multiple positions. With a couple of finishes for me (very rare. Normally I need more 'rest'). Definite high activity porn-star material. We then went to sleep. And I awoke to her giving me an incredible BBBJ at around 8:30. And for the next hour had more of a leisurely, playful, GFE experience. She left around 10, lettimg me know she would be at Manhattan that night. I spent the day sightseeing, fully intending a 'different' girls that night.
Started out around 9 with dinner at Malones. Did not find anything interesting by 11, so went to China GoGo (around the corner from Manhattan). Don't bother. A typical girl's bar. With not so attractive girls.
Moved onto Big Bamboo. Had a beer & played some foosball. But no action, so headed next store to Manhattan. On the street right in front, was offered a 'young girl' for 400 RMB in my room. I passed.
Manhattan was even more crowded. Grabbed a beer & slowly made my way around. The talent seemed better- but also more expensive. Tried to negotiated a couple of times, but 1, 200 for ST & 2, 000 for LT was a hard number for anything worthwhile. Around 2. Made another round, prices came down. But not much. Until I ran into last nights main event. And she looked even better tonight. We quickly came to a ST agreement for 800. Back to the room for a continuation of the GFE session. 3 hours later, I let her go, knowing I had to be at the airport by 10 AM.
While I normally to not go for a repeat. She was just what I needed. And proof that it is the person. Not the nationality. Manhattan is a sure deal. But not the only deal in town. See the Bodi hotel review later in the week.
Will[/QUOTE]Great post. I am traveling to Shanghai next month and would love to meet this girl. Do you have a name or some way to specifically identify her? You can PM me with that information if you don't want to post it.
AL
[QUOTE=Tybao; 1139843]
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Stumbled upon this Sauna last week, located at the intersection of Zhongxing Road and Baochang Road (zhong1xing1 lu4 bao3chang1 lu4kou3). It is within walking distance of Line #8 zhongxing Road station. I have attached a photo of the enterance. It is a great budget sauna if you don't want to break the bank. I paid 470 RMB for 60 minutes. Yes. 470!
Take the elevator to the 3rd floor (which is technically the 2nd floor, don't be afraid of the 2 star facilities). Nobody speaks English here, and from talking with people there they don't get many foreigners, so use sign language to explain what kind of massage you want, a pen and paper, or ask for the si4bai3qi1shi2 (470).
Usual sauna routine: strip, shower room, back into looker room to dry off, put on PJ's they provide, into lounge area. Shower facilities are so so, the sauna helpers don't do much, but I actually prefer hands off experience with the male helpers. Go into the lounge area (nap room) and someone will come to you and ask you if you want a massage. They have a normal massage and a FS massage. They lead you to a massage room, it was small and dimly lit, had a TV but not porn, and mirrors. Girl comes into the room, if you don't like her ask for a different girl. I had #5, she was around 30 and short, but her face was an 8 and she had a nice little tight round ass. Stripped and started with an average massage, then a tongue bath, Rim, then used baby powder (strange) , then breast massage and pussy massage, BBBJ. 69. The 69 was great, she let me do anything and seemed to really enjoy it, she was grinding onto my mouth. Then condom and reverse cowgirl, then cowgirl, lots of kissing and DFK, she came. Then I finished in missionary. She is new to this sauna, I was her first customer. She didn't even know which direction to walk me back to the lounge. I saw a couple other girls that were 6-7 in the looks dpt.
I will go again for sure.
Sauna Facilities: 5. 5.
Face: 8.
Body: 6. 5.
Skill: 8.
GFE: 9.
Overall: 8.
Tybao[/QUOTE]I tried this one out a couple days ago. It was a little strange because the girl at the counter didn't just assume what I was there for like the other "saunas". I was shown a menu and nothing on it looked like what I had come for. Nothing on it was priced at 470. It appears like a typical sauna. So I sheepishly said, in Chinese, I want the 470 massage. The girl looked at me for like 10 seconds then finally said "ok" and gave me a key, took my shoes, the usual stuff.
After I was showered and in my sauna clothes, the massage helper guy asks me what massage I want. I say again the 470. He thinks for a moment then just says, in english,"NO!". In probably incredibly broken Chinese I explain to him that the girl at the counter said it was ok. He talks to someone who checks with her, comes back and finally says ok. I'm not sure what the fuss was, it could have been because it was so late. It was 3am when I showed up.
Anyway then I go to a room and wait. The room was tiny. The size of the bed, which was also tiny, plus a few feet in one direction. Girl comes in, usual stuff from this point on. She was pretty average in appearance, and pretty average at everything else but I really loved the main event. She was ultra tight and remained that way throughout the session. Usually girls expand a bit during the event, but she was tight the whole way through which made it really challenging to not let it go early. I have no idea what her number was, I never saw one. Really wished I knew it.
And yea the damage is just 470.
[QUOTE=JohnSmithPoro;1144944]I'm rather new to the site and would also want express my thanks to great reports lately. Especially SteelBaton's very detail one. From his report I'm only wondering what is the Chinese address of the "Waves" Sauna and how to get there?[/QUOTE]Pinyin name is HaiLang meaning 'sea wave' and the address is 1277 Zhongshan West Road; on your tourist map, it is between the main streets of WuZhong and HongQiao Roads. There is a convenience store next to the driveway leading into a large courtyard, you will see a large building "Asionics Technology Center" but the sauna is in the first building on your left.
Ask your hotel to write the address in Chinese for a taxi or Lines 3, 4 and 10 of the Metro will get to the Hongqiao Road station and within walking distance (10 minutes).
Report back.
Cal8
Hey,
I don't want to sound like an idiot but I have never done any of the things that most people on this forum do. I really want to try a happy ending massage however. I understand that craigslist is to be avoided, but what about escort agencies? I've googled 'shanghai escort' and there are several agencies on the first page.
Now I tried to call one, and they immediately asked for my address, at which point I got scared and hung up. Has and anyone had experience with these kind of online escort agencies? It seems weird because they say they are open 24 hours a day 365 days a year and the photos seem very 'glamour' like.
I'm not kidding when I tell you I'm actually a virgin, in part due to my extreme shyness around Women. So you'd be doing me a huge favour if you could point me in the right direction. I'd rather not go to a bar but rather have a Woman arrive at my apartment, just for 'hand' massage ha.
Please let me know if these online escort agencies are worth a try. I don't know if I'm allowed to mention the names of them here so I won't, but I'm talking about the first page of google if you just type 'shanghai escort'. Thanks.
If you are only looking for a HE, I would suggest a simple massage place. There are some legit places and others that will include HE in their massage offer. What I have found is if the place is a little less glamorous, it is a higher chance they offer HE. You will not have to ask they will take over. It should be easy even if you are shy. Go in and expect a massage or foot wash and if they move it to HE you win. There are many places like this in Shanghai. Read the forum for ideas of places near you.
MD40.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1145473]Hey,
I don't want to sound like an idiot but I have never done any of the things that most people on this forum do. I really want to try a happy ending massage however. I understand that craigslist is to be avoided, but what about escort agencies? I've googled 'shanghai escort' and there are several agencies on the first page.
Now I tried to call one, and they immediately asked for my address, at which point I got scared and hung up. Has and anyone had experience with these kind of online escort agencies? It seems weird because they say they are open 24 hours a day 365 days a year and the photos seem very 'glamour' like.
I'm not kidding when I tell you I'm actually a virgin, in part due to my extreme shyness around Women. So you'd be doing me a huge favour if you could point me in the right direction. I'd rather not go to a bar but rather have a Woman arrive at my apartment, just for 'hand' massage ha.
Please let me know if these online escort agencies are worth a try. I don't know if I'm allowed to mention the names of them here so I won't, but I'm talking about the first page of google if you just type 'shanghai escort'. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
Definetely this was for the team. Went to 4th floor and greeted by a receptionist Who showed the menu. From 400 for 60 min to 740 (70 min) plus 10% service with different options. Chose my 70 min one and the girl takes note of my room number: "beautiful girl will be there in 19 min so you take shower". Knock at the door and a 7 to' 8 in look shows up dressed like a Singapore airline hostess in high heels. Speaks sufficient english and picking up a note pad list (again) prices and massage services: just like I wasted time at reception. The 740 optional became 880+, WTF!
Nevertheless I go ahead and the girl motion on how I have to lay on the bed. After 15 minutes in the back massage with little entertaining talks she upsells a double round. Massage is great, relaxing and I go for it. She performs it keeping the uniform. Not promising but might not mean much.
After the flip and not much attentino to "the area", she clearly points that massage session does not include "the area".
So I go for the rather expensive upgrade to' HJ and needed quite some convincing time to' have her undressing. No way she remove pants but hands can browse.
Oil and hands do the magic and the happy ending comes to an end.
After the cleaning process she continues the massage till nearlythe end of the2nd hr.
Then it comes the financial settlement.
It can be done in $ € or credit card. I balance my Yuan reserve with some euro on which rate she is quite knowledgeable.
Friend of mine, having been serviced in his room by another girl (apparently not nice looking but I can't confirm) said that for credit card payment one has to go in a nearby building! That is absolutely weird!
A note in the hotel room, advertising the massage services (from 10am to 2am) specifies the hotel has nothing to do with the massage center.
Girl 7-8.
Massage 9.
HJ 8.
Attitude 6-7.
Price: awfully expensive! Maybe good for occasional mongers who wants to keep all within the intimacy of his hotel room, in a sort of legitimate way (no bad surprises or freaking girls)
Definetely a no repeat, would even say to avoid as nearby there is a well known sauna, with what spent for a HJ in the incall massage one can have 3 rounds at the sauna and still have money for a drink.
A rip-off? Wouldn't go that far, but not far from it.
Definetely a place to avoid for regular ISG members.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1145473]Hey,
I don't want to sound like an idiot but I have never done any of the things that most people on this forum do. I really want to try a happy ending massage however. I understand that craigslist is to be avoided, but what about escort agencies? I've googled 'shanghai escort' and there are several agencies on the first page.
Now I tried to call one, and they immediately asked for my address, at which point I got scared and hung up. Has and anyone had experience with these kind of online escort agencies? It seems weird because they say they are open 24 hours a day 365 days a year and the photos seem very 'glamour' like.
I'm not kidding when I tell you I'm actually a virgin, in part due to my extreme shyness around Women. So you'd be doing me a huge favour if you could point me in the right direction. I'd rather not go to a bar but rather have a Woman arrive at my apartment, just for 'hand' massage ha.
Please let me know if these online escort agencies are worth a try. I don't know if I'm allowed to mention the names of them here so I won't, but I'm talking about the first page of google if you just type 'shanghai escort'. Thanks. [/QUOTE]You need to get out a little. Seriously, just go to one of the saunas mentioned herer. There really is no drama. If you want to go with someone, let me know, I plan on going again soon
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1145586]Definetely this was for the team. Went to 4th floor and greeted by a receptionist Who showed the menu. From 400 for 60 min to 740 (70 min) plus 10% service with different options. Chose my 70 min one and the girl takes note of my room number: "beautiful girl will be there in 19 min so you take shower". Knock at the door and a 7 to' 8 in look shows up dressed like a Singapore airline hostess in high heels. Speaks sufficient english and picking up a note pad list (again) prices and massage services: just like I wasted time at reception. The 740 optional became 880+, WTF!
Nevertheless I go ahead and the girl motion on how I have to lay on the bed. After 15 minutes in the back massage with little entertaining talks she upsells a double round. Massage is great, relaxing and I go for it. She performs it keeping the uniform. Not promising but might not mean much.
After the flip and not much attentino to "the area", she clearly points that massage session does not include "the area".
So I go for the rather expensive upgrade to' HJ and needed quite some convincing time to' have her undressing. No way she remove pants but hands can browse.
Oil and hands do the magic and the happy ending comes to an end.
After the cleaning process she continues the massage till nearlythe end of the2nd hr.
Then it comes the financial settlement.
It can be done in $ € or credit card. I balance my Yuan reserve with some euro on which rate she is quite knowledgeable.
Friend of mine, having been serviced in his room by another girl (apparently not nice looking but I can't confirm) said that for credit card payment one has to go in a nearby building! That is absolutely weird!
A note in the hotel room, advertising the massage services (from 10am to 2am) specifies the hotel has nothing to do with the massage center.
Girl 7-8.
Massage 9.
HJ 8.
Attitude 6-7.
Price: awfully expensive! Maybe good for occasional mongers who wants to keep all within the intimacy of his hotel room, in a sort of legitimate way (no bad surprises or freaking girls)
Definetely a no repeat, would even say to avoid as nearby there is a well known sauna, with what spent for a HJ in the incall massage one can have 3 rounds at the sauna and still have money for a drink.
A rip-off? Wouldn't go that far, but not far from it.
Definetely a place to avoid for regular ISG members. [/QUOTE]Bman,
Theres a 209rmd place (1hr) on Maoming Lu called Spring Spa. Girls also look like flight attendants as well. Maybe not Singapore but perhaps Delta. LOL.
Anyway. 90 min is only 289rmd or something like that. I get #9 or #35 usually. 9 is way cuter but 35 has a good attitude. The girls allow much roaming for tips of course. I had #9s panties to her kness and she had a nice kitty for sure. #35 wasnt quite as accomadating but ok nontheless. Usually only a 40 to 50rmd tip regardless and they like it. I offered #9 500rmd for FS but she wanted 2500...lol Nice but not today.
PC out
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1145621]Bman,
Theres a 209rmd place (1hr) on Maoming Lu called Spring Spa. Girls also look like flight attendants as well. Maybe not Singapore but perhaps Delta. LOL.
Anyway. 90 min is only 289rmd or something like that. I get #9 or #35 usually. 9 is way cuter but 35 has a good attitude. The girls allow much roaming for tips of course. I had #9s panties to her kness and she had a nice kitty for sure. #35 wasnt quite as accomadating but ok nontheless. Usually only a 40 to 50rmd tip regardless and they like it. I offered #9 500rmd for FS but she wanted 2500. LOL Nice but not today.
PC out[/QUOTE]Do you know the cross street for this location?
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1145631]Do you know the cross street for this location?[/QUOTE]I believe the "Spring Spa" referred to here is on Maoming Road, just south of Weihai Road on the east side of the street. From the intersection, walk south on Maoming Road. About 50 meters down, you'll see a sign for the massage place. (Sorry, I don't remember the full name in Chinese.) Anyway, there is a podium where a greeter could stand, but most of the time there isn't someone there. The sign will say the massage is on the second floor. But, be aware! From the street, you need to go down a couple of steps and then to the back of the building to take the elevator to the second floor. DO NOT go down those steps and take the staircase immediately to the right up to another spa. This other spa you can see from the street is a regular ladies' spa, not the massage place. So unless you want a pedicure, make sure to find the elevator towards the back of the building. Good luck, and post a report if you go.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1145631]Do you know the cross street for this location?[/QUOTE]Its near Julu Road. On the 2nd floor of a small bldg. It nice inside and very dark with showers in all rooms. There are signs near Julu Rd. You should not miss it.
PC out
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1145621]Bman,
Theres a 209rmd place (1hr) on Maoming Lu called Spring Spa. Girls also look like flight attendants as well. Maybe not Singapore but perhaps Delta. LOL.
Anyway. 90 min is only 289rmd or something like that. I get #9 or #35 usually. 9 is way cuter but 35 has a good attitude. The girls allow much roaming for tips of course. I had #9s panties to her kness and she had a nice kitty for sure. #35 wasnt quite as accomadating but ok nontheless. Usually only a 40 to 50rmd tip regardless and they like it. I offered #9 500rmd for FS but she wanted 2500. LOL Nice but not today.
PC out[/QUOTE]Thanks for the hint, but I do no think the area of the hotel is missing of spas and saunas.
Defientely mine was an expensive try "for the team"
I actually never experimented in-room service from the hotel somehow realted) MP.
Only in Bejing I used the hotel MP and of course it all went far cheaper and more normal, even if in the MP rooms (my room had my other half, LOL!).
Definetely this 24yo cutie knew her teasing business as my friend had a similar set for another price level (albeit he asked her NOT TO strip down, was she so bad? LOL)
I voluntarily played the game to see where she was leading to and see how they can manipulate the situation.
Have to say the massage was fully ok, but she also cheated on the time (and that is bad, whatever your ultimate plans are) since you buy her time.
One should also know what the MP services do include or not include.
Awasre that the hotel had an MP linked by a passageway in the past (and hten closed) it looks it does not want to have too much to (officially) do with the MP, but happy to offer an opportunity, probably in demand.
I can imagine, still, there is a good range of customers going for it with the usual comment "anyhow cheaper than a hooker in my homeland", not to mention the discretion this offers, with inroom service. Quite valuable for many, especially if traveling in groups (as seems the case in this hotel).
From time to time there is a nice girl stationing in the proximity of the elevators. She dicreeetly approaches you and leaves you a small piece of paper in your hands when you pass by: 300RMB / hr for massage, call XXX@131xxxxxxx.
As usual that 300RMB is just the starting price. She must work with the discrete approval of the manager on duty as the hotel has. Officially. A "visitor registration policy" (maybe all SH have to keep LE happy).
I am staying at the Hilton this time. I usually stay at the Portmna. Is there any saunas or BBs around the hotle. I know the whole Manhattan scene but lookign for soemthing a little easier. Any words or wisdon would be great.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1144080]Anyone know any current BBS locations near downtown Shanghai? Or neighboring areas?
Anyway I decided to stroll around Zhabei, figuring there must be a string of BBS's in there somewhere. I didn't find a string, but I did find one single location. Wujin and Jiangxi are the cross streets. Place is familair pink lighting illuminating from a spot that's about halfway down the block. West from the intersection mentioned. Was open at 3am. Usual price. Almost usual deal (the girl led me through a back door, out the building, down an alley, into a room she had the key to). The event was like what one expects from BBS. [/QUOTE]Ok so this same area actually has many BBSs. The first time I was there I think it was just too late at night. Jiangxi is the street, the stretch of it between Wujin and Haining has 3-4 places. If you explore around a street or two in any direction from here, you can find a couple more. You can show up as late as 3am and find something. Maybe a little later even. Price is 2 or 3. Couple MP in this area, too, if you're into that.
[QUOTE=Money11;1145778]I am staying at the Hilton this time. I usually stay at the Portmna. Is there any saunas or BBs around the hotle. I know the whole Manhattan scene but lookign for soemthing a little easier. Any words or wisdon would be great.[/QUOTE]My first thought is that you're sitting on subway line 2, so you can go to sacrosa sauna in pudong. But. Maybe you meant like within a few blocks around the hotel area. I, too, am curious if there is something in that area aside from the girl bars and the manhattan-ish places.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1145473]Hey,
I don't want to sound like an idiot but I have never done any of the things that most people on this forum do. I really want to try a happy ending massage however. I understand that craigslist is to be avoided, but what about escort agencies? I've googled 'shanghai escort' and there are several agencies on the first page.
Now I tried to call one, and they immediately asked for my address, at which point I got scared and hung up. Has and anyone had experience with these kind of online escort agencies? It seems weird because they say they are open 24 hours a day 365 days a year and the photos seem very 'glamour' like.
I'm not kidding when I tell you I'm actually a virgin, in part due to my extreme shyness around Women. So you'd be doing me a huge favour if you could point me in the right direction. I'd rather not go to a bar but rather have a Woman arrive at my apartment, just for 'hand' massage ha.
Please let me know if these online escort agencies are worth a try. I don't know if I'm allowed to mention the names of them here so I won't, but I'm talking about the first page of google if you just type 'shanghai escort'.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes the online agencies are legit, they will send you a girl 24 hours, the photos are probably fake in my experience. Yes they do ask for the hotel address and even the hotel phone number and your room number. They want to make sure you are legit too (they don't want to send a girl all the way to your place in the middle of the night only to get stood up). But I had a good experience, it was pricey and I wouldn't suggest it for your first time. Try a Sauna or a BBS for a massage with happy ending until you get your monger wings.
Tybao
First time to Mint a couple weeks ago, Friday night around 11:00 and a bit crowded. A younger crowd, I noticed some White girls there too as well as a group of hotties having what appeared to be a bachelorette party.
I met a girl named Maggie, around 20yrs, I speak Chinese. Face an 8. 5 and Body a 7. Not a WG. We talked for long time and flirted. She was drinking a lot more than me. It was getting noisy and hot and I asked her if she wanted to go for a walk, my hotel was nearby. When we got to my street I asked her if she wanted to come up and see my room and she said yes. We turned on the TV and talking led to kissing led to making out, first, second, third base. She felt my hard cock in my jeans and got excited. She got my jeans off and did a BJ. Her skill wasn't very good but I liked the effort. I went down on her but she didn't let me do it for more than a minute or two. She got on top of me but I stopped her to put on the condom. She rode me until she came then after that I got on top and finished in missionary. She wasn't very skilled but the passion was there. Her tits were small and she didn't have much of an ass, but overall had a good time. We cuddled for awhile and cleaned up and slept. Next morning we exchanged info and went to breakfast, then went our seperate ways. She has a sweet personality and is an eager beaver in the bed, but her body just wasn't up to my standards. Probably won't hit her up a second time.
Tybao
Went to a business dinner way out in Suzhou. Quite a ways out, but we had a driver bring us back into Shanghai. Staying at the Hilton, a couple of us went upstairs for drinks before calling it a night. You see, we drank copious amounts of Tsing Tao at the restaurant, only to realize that it was fake beer. No buzz, just a refreshing fizz. Ah, and the custom is not ice cold beer. But I digress.
The next day was a spare day for me, so I ventured out to Tengren to check out the bars. It was after midnight when I stepped into Malones. Way overdressed in a sports coat. I took a stool at the bar, way far from the stage. The band was awesome for a guy who can appreciate classic rock covers. About 25 WGs hanging out and maybe 15 men, so the ratio was good. It was clear to me who was the hottie of my dreams, but she was totally hanging out with a group of guys. Laughing, flirting. Did not look promising.
I ordered another Tsing Tao, this time real and cold. Nursed it while I scanned the bar. Still not looking good. A few WGs came in the door, back from ST's and looking for their friends. Wondering if this was going to be a bad night.
All of a sudden, a strikingly beautiful girl snuggles up close to me. Straight black hair. 5'2" about 95. As she's standing between my legs, I decide to let me hands wander. My left hand in the small of her back, gently rubbing. Ok so far. I place my right hand on her hip, and start rubbing up and down, as she slowly rotates into me. Now I'm rubbing her stomach down the front of her dress. Definitely lace panties. Feeling emboldened, I slide my hand up her dress and start cupping her A / Bs. Natural. She whispers,"lets go"."Long time", I ask?"Sure"."1000?" "Ok" she says as she kisses me. I'm in heaven.
A quick cab back to the hotel and grinning ear-to-ear as we strut across the lobby to the elevators. Up to the HHonors floor and into my room. First she showers and comes out drying herself in a towel. A little modesty. As she comes up next to me, kisses and slides into bed. I go in for a quick solo shower and come out ready. She's pacing the night. More kissing, soft sensuous lips, detecting her lips parting. Lfk lfk kiss kiss lfk lfk dfk dfk.
Raging hard on.
She pushes me back and down she slides, letting her long black hair drift across my skin. All my nerves are alive! A touch. A tease. Lips close. Tongue on my inner thigh. Unghhhh pleeeze and she lets her tongue wrap around my shaft, sliding up and down, her lips tracing the underside of my dick, not taking the head in. Unghhh. She wanders down for rimming, her hair caressing my legs, my balls, my throbbing dick. Sensing I'm close, she attacks with a BBBJ right to the edge, then abruptly stops. Twitch. Twitch. Deep again 1, 2.3, 4 and abruptly she stops again. Then she pinches the tip and rolls on a tight one. Up she climbs, she's in control. Pacing, very very slow entry. Then up until barely in, then down. Up again, almost out, then pow. Deep to the hilt. Tight kegels and very slippery. She's on her feet, hands on my chest as she's clearly using me as her tool. Pow pow pow. Then she drops her knees to the bed and hooks her feet over my thighs. We're in deep rhythm. Ungh ungh ungh pow pow pow. I'm going blind. I quickly pick her up and go mish. My hands on the bed on either side of her narrow waist. Pump pump pump. Oh this is so hot. Pump pump pump suddenly she claws my back and nearly comes off the bed. Pump pump pump Don't stop pump pump pump she's thrusting back pump pump pump OHHHHHH!
Panting. Breathing. Wow.
Slowly I catch my breath. She's staring in my eyes. Soft, sensuous kissing. Slightly parted lips. Kissing. I pull out.
Sorry guys, I've got to go take care of this hard on. I'll have to continue another time.
[QUOTE=Maddog40; 1145478]If you are only looking for a HE, I would suggest a simple massage place. There are some legit places and others that will include HE in their massage offer. What I have found is if the place is a little less glamorous, it is a higher chance they offer HE. You will not have to ask they will take over. It should be easy even if you are shy. Go in and expect a massage or foot wash and if they move it to HE you win. There are many places like this in Shanghai. Read the forum for ideas of places near you.
MD40. [/QUOTE]Here is what I know about this fascinating subject. There will certainly be exceptions to these generalisations, no-one said life would be simple!
I would divide massage places into three categories, relative to your chance of getting a happy ending. No, yes and maybe.
The "no" places will tend to be the well-known chains, places in squeaky-clean locations, those with staff in traditional uniforms, reception staff who don't welcome you with any interest. And those where you can see grumpy old ladies massaging peoples' feet. There is always the chance of finding an enterprising employee who will unofficially supply what you're looking for, but the chances are slim. Better to start where the odds are in your favour.
You are highly likely to find what you seek when you see girls in silk blouses and short black skirts on door duty. These places tend to be grouped on certain streets, and the process is the same. Ask for a massage and wait for the offer of the special routine. It will be obvious within the first ten minutes that you're moving in that direction, in fact the problem will be avoiding the massive up-sell attempts – that, for me is the main disadvantage of most of these places. You may have asked for one hour of basic oil massage but they will try very hard to get you to agree 90 minutes or 2 hours, with fancy oils and potions loaded on top. Best to get it agreed before they literally have you in their grip. The girl will ask if you want the special massage, will tell you it's very comfortable, and ask you for a 'tip'. This is where you see how well it's going to turn out. If you're in a nice area and the place is clean, she may start as high as 500 for a HE – and any touching or clothes removal will cost extra! You have to decide what it's worth to you – a typical price range should be 100 – 200, but they will try for much higher if they think you don't know that. I tend to get through this part quite quickly with a '200 is the going rate, take it or leave it' response. If she's been pushing the price very hard, you may then find her attitude goes downhill – that, and the constant pleading to buy a VIP card, is why I never go to MPs in Jinqiao these days. Another trick is that they'll tease you for the HE as you're approaching the end of your time, and try to persuade you to take another 30 minutes – I tend to reject that, on the assumption that they want the tip and will find the time within the hour if they know you're not going to give in. My summary is that these MPs are guaranteed to supply what you need, but the ones with upscale pretensions can cost you more than you plan when you walk in. If you do find the right place, though, it can be very pleasant and relaxing. You also need to be willing to ask for a girl who catches your eye – they seem to have a rotation system, and you may not be offered the one who smiled from the doorway when you wandered past. Again, stand your ground!
The third category of MP can be a 'maybe' for a happy ending, only because you may get more than you expected! If the girls are sitting under the 'Spa' sign wearing evening dresses, low-cut tops are showing a lot of leg and get frantically excited when lucky old you appears, it's more likely to be a FS establishment, regardless of the sign. This seems (to me) to be a recent development, a transition area between MPs and the well-known pink-lit BBS places. If you don't want the full service, stick to the places with the girls dressed in black, and a girl on duty at a reception desk – it will look like a plausible massage place, and the massage itself can be quite good. On the east side of the river, there are some good places on Zhang Yang Road, near Minsheng Road – generally good attitude, clean rooms and reasonable prices.
I hope this is helpful – wish you luck in your adventures!
Couple of years agi I had a great massage experience in an MP with HE opposite Mariott Courtyard near weifang Road. The special thing was that all the girls were wearing stockings! And very nice place further as well. Now I found out that this place is completely gone. Does anyone know where to find a similar experience? Beautiful girls in stockings and HE.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1145473]Hey,
I don't want to sound like an idiot but I have never done any of the things that most people on this forum do. I really want to try a happy ending massage however. I understand that craigslist is to be avoided, but what about escort agencies? I've googled 'shanghai escort' and there are several agencies on the first page.
Now I tried to call one, and they immediately asked for my address, at which point I got scared and hung up. Has and anyone had experience with these kind of online escort agencies? It seems weird because they say they are open 24 hours a day 365 days a year and the photos seem very 'glamour' like.
I'm not kidding when I tell you I'm actually a virgin, in part due to my extreme shyness around Women. So you'd be doing me a huge favour if you could point me in the right direction. I'd rather not go to a bar but rather have a Woman arrive at my apartment, just for 'hand' massage ha.
Please let me know if these online escort agencies are worth a try. I don't know if I'm allowed to mention the names of them here so I won't, but I'm talking about the first page of google if you just type 'shanghai escort'. Thanks. [/QUOTE]Hey Smirnoff,
If you want to head out I can show you a couple places. There's a first for everything, pm me I'm usually good in the evenings
Most of you have already read about this place, so I'll spare the location details for this report and get straight to the girl. Tonight I went out, feeling nostalgic, and wanting to get with a girl who reminded me of when I was in University. I landed on #321:21 years old, from DaLian. Adorable face, smallish breasts, a little chubby but great legs and a really playful personality. As soon as I picked her, I knew I made a good decision. She looked to me and said &35874; &35874; &20320; then looked at the other girls and said &23545; &19981; &36215; &65281; I had a good laugh about that.
The rundown:
- Entered the room, she prep'd it.
- Undressed herself, disrobed me, immediately began to kiss my neck, bite my lower lip and play with my balls.
- Pushed me onto the bed, I turned over for the catbath.
- Great catbath, including licking and sucking my feet and getting me on all fours into a teabag-style ball-suck.
- Turned over for a great deepthroat BJ.
- Stood me up, propped one leg up on the beg, stroked me while biting my nipples, then got on her knees to continue to BJ.
- Sex was missionary, but I could really feel her pussy holding on to me. Great pussy, not too tight but certainly not loose. We went forehead-to-forehead, her biting my lip and kissing again. Really hot. Felt like a genuine GFE.
- Finish, she takes out some candy and offers me, we chat, quiz each other in Chinese and English. She has a wonderful laugh, really bright eyes. Plays with my balls the entire time.
- Calls Mamasan / front desk while jerking me off.
- I cum again, we relax again, she massages my front side / shoulders / thighs.
- 95 minutes later we depart.
I know some guys have body / image standards, but for me it's all experience and attitude. That's what I go to HeTing or HaiLang for. This girl is absolutely on my short list. She really went for it, and we had a great time. I highly recommend her to you and truly hope your experience is as great as mine was.
BTW: Be careful on your way out. The wallpaper in the hallways is like razorwire. I got a nasty papercut from just running my finger along the wall lackadaisically!
Got a hit on QQ today from the lady who operates this bar.
Supposedly not far from the Bund.
Anybody ever pass by this place?
An internet search gave me a picture of the outside but no comments from patrons.
This is the address she gave me:
No 55 huoshan road hongkou dist shanghai, close to dong the ming road, also close to ocean hotel
Nobody Special
Does anyone know of any BBS clusters in Huangpu? Peoples Square area?
[QUOTE=Ringer5; 1145908]The third category of MP can be a 'maybe' for a happy ending, only because you may get more than you expected! If the girls are sitting under the 'Spa' sign wearing evening dresses, low-cut tops are showing a lot of leg and get frantically excited when lucky old you appears, it's more likely to be a FS establishment, regardless of the sign. This seems (to me) to be a recent development, a transition area between MPs and the well-known pink-lit BBS places. QUOTE]
Sounds interesting, never experienced such a 'hybrid', could you please tell us where you saw / experienced such places. I only seem to see the 'normal' HE SPA venues where the tip is RMB 100-200. Also when you find yourselves (heaven forbid) I such a place of ill repute (offering FS quite unexpected.) what is the going rate. Do they tell at the counter that they offer FS or is this only told in the room and what is the standard price (counter fee) then. Please enlighten us to this recent phenomenom.
Thanks
I'm new to the SH MP scene, so not sure this is bad luck or due to LE. Went to place recently recommended by MD40 near Manhattan's, but it was clearly shut down.
Went to well known MP strip (I'll call it WZ for short) which has been recommended here a few times. One place was clearly closed (furniture stacked near door) another showed no signs of life in late afternoon. Another had super cutie visible, but when I went inside she locked the front door with a bike lock and was obviously nervous and apprehensive. Shorts could not come off below knees. She later told me MP down to only 3 girls as LE cracking down big time. Should we be concerned? Thoughts?
Sparky
I ended up in malones. After walking aimlessly for 20 minutes from my apartment. In random direction without care. Inside what do I find?
99% old white guys. The only 2 girls there were the waitresses and even they were not good looking. I ordered a tsing dao for 45 rmb, it tasted like water. Then I left.
Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146714]I ended up in malones. After walking aimlessly for 20 minutes from my apartment. In random direction without care. Inside what do I find?
99% old white guys. The only 2 girls there were the waitresses and even they were not good looking. I ordered a tsing dao for 45 rmb, it tasted like water. Then I left.
Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky. [/QUOTE]And I went on a Saturday night!
And unrelated, but my wallet was stolen from my back pocket yesterday, I lost 4000rmb, but luckily not important bank cards.
I am an unlucky sob.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1146715]And I went on a Saturday night![/QUOTE]Manhatten is the prime spot, just around the corner.
Malones has some girls, but on only sometimes. Its more for drinking and live music.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146714]Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky. [/QUOTE]That's no way to talk about the people who are trying to help you!
[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1146106]
[QUOTE=Ringer5; 1145908]The third category of MP can be a 'maybe' for a happy ending, only because you may get more than you expected! If the girls are sitting under the 'Spa' sign wearing evening dresses, low-cut tops are showing a lot of leg and get frantically excited when lucky old you appears, it's more likely to be a FS establishment, regardless of the sign. This seems (to me) to be a recent development, a transition area between MPs and the well-known pink-lit BBS places. QUOTE]
Sounds interesting, never experienced such a 'hybrid', could you please tell us where you saw / experienced such places. I only seem to see the 'normal' HE SPA venues where the tip is RMB 100-200. Also when you find yourselves (heaven forbid) I such a place of ill repute (offering FS quite unexpected.) what is the going rate. Do they tell at the counter that they offer FS or is this only told in the room and what is the standard price (counter fee) then. Please enlighten us to this recent phenomenom.
It was east of the river in the area north of Long Yang Road, west of Metro. Probably Du Juan / Haitong / Yinghua Road. There are several MPs in a row. I went in for a real massage, was a bit startled to be quoted 300 as soon as we reached the room, when the girl explained that I would get the "full package" for that modest sum. If I'd been more observant, the lack of a receptionist would probably have told me it was closer to a BBS than MP, although the outside appearance was more like the surrounding MPs. Learning something new every day! [/QUOTE]
Hi Ringer,
Thanks for the info but are you not mixing things up here: Yinghua Road has one MP (SPA) at the corner with Baiyang Road which does not meet your description of a hybrid SPA. Furthermore the street has around four BBS (very clearly identifiable as BBS and not MP / SPA. There is only one MP / SPA which offers FS for RMB300 but there the woman do not wear clothes as you described. I have been there twice for FS, but it was a so-so experience : the girls were not so pretty once I saw them in the room, did not want to fully undress and were in a RUSH. Will not repeat unless they display a stunner in the window front. By the way they have a receptionist.
Take care,
Changlelu
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146714]I ended up in malones. After walking aimlessly for 20 minutes from my apartment. In random direction without care. Inside what do I find?
99% old white guys. The only 2 girls there were the waitresses and even they were not good looking. I ordered a tsing dao for 45 rmb, it tasted like water. Then I left.
Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky. [/QUOTE]There are alotta places to go for P4P. Try the Saunas, BBS, and the other plethora of places we all have mentioned here. RTFF more thoroughly!
Thats 100% your going to get some. Common sense is all it takes man.
PC out
I have booked a gorgeous lady to help me take around the city. I clearly understand the limits of tour guide / translator.
I can't help wonder if she provides other services. Her email and online advertisement is quite suggetive in lines of 'romantic encounter'. But the company she works for clearly states on their website that guide will not meet anyone in private. She has offered to take me around best bars in town as well.
So, what is general perception of these lovely tour guides? I don't want to ask her direct as it might be insulting to her. Any tips?
Naive? And you carried 4000 rmb with you? Why? Lesson earned?
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146717]And unrelated, but my wallet was stolen from my back pocket yesterday, I lost 4000rmb, but luckily not important bank cards.
I am an unlucky sob.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146714]I ended up in malones. After walking aimlessly for 20 minutes from my apartment. In random direction without care. Inside what do I find?
99% old white guys. The only 2 girls there were the waitresses and even they were not good looking. I ordered a tsing dao for 45 rmb, it tasted like water. Then I left.
Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146714]I ended up in malones. After walking aimlessly for 20 minutes from my apartment. In random direction without care. Inside what do I find?
99% old white guys. The only 2 girls there were the waitresses and even they were not good looking. I ordered a tsing dao for 45 rmb, it tasted like water. Then I left.
Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky.[/QUOTE]YES, you are unlucky.
As one of those "99% old white guys" you mention, I have to say a few things. FIRST, what time of the evening were you at Malones? Nothing happens before 11pm in this town. If you want a cute, young girl to fall at your feet and screw you silly without any effort on your part, go to a sauna like 999 or Heting or Bodi & others in mid-afternoon or early evening beforethe girls are used up and tired. If you want an easy hunt for girls in a packed place, go to the Manhatten meat market around midnite and pay 800 for a quick short term, or 1000-1500+ for long term at around 2am. If you simply want a break from the insanity of Manhatten, stagger over to Malones (2 blocks away) and enjoy the late evening band. Sure the working girls aren't top tier babes, but I guarantee if you ask ANY of them to dance or offer to buy them a drink and make an attempt to treat them like a lady. They'll gladly cooperate. Sometimes the girls there are returning from the "short time" romps at Manhatten and drift in late. Actually, I've gotten two very GFE all-nighters at Malones after midnite and enjoyed the heck out of their company. Most of the girls there realize they aren't top-tier, but are very happy to make you happy. The band is usually good and, if I don't see much action there amongs the WG talent, I drift down to Judy's II or back to Manhatten.
If you can't find anything in these three places after midnite. Well, then maybe you should have just stayed back in your hotel and tried to RTFF.
Cheers,
An Old White Guy
Hi everyone,
I will be in Shanghai this weekend and intend to check out Bodi. I've printed out the map and everything. My question is if I go around 3-4pm will there be a good selection, or is the selection terrible until 8pm? Secondly will there be any issues getting in as I read some posts in the past saying they are cautious about new customers? I am a well groomed, young looking Chinese guy, not sure if that would raise suspicions on their part. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146714]I ended up in malones. After walking aimlessly for 20 minutes from my apartment. In random direction without care. Inside what do I find?
99% old white guys. The only 2 girls there were the waitresses and even they were not good looking. I ordered a tsing dao for 45 rmb, it tasted like water. Then I left.
Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky.[/QUOTE]Perhaps. I was extremely lucky at Malones the other night.
[QUOTE=SunsetGuy; 1146861]I have booked a gorgeous lady to help me take around the city. I clearly understand the limits of tour guide / translator.
I can't help wonder if she provides other services. Her email and online advertisement is quite suggetive in lines of 'romantic encounter'. But the company she works for clearly states on their website that guide will not meet anyone in private. She has offered to take me around best bars in town as well.
So, what is general perception of these lovely tour guides? I don't want to ask her direct as it might be insulting to her. Any tips? [/QUOTE]I think she will come forward by herself, so just wait and see how it will develop.
And. Don't you worry, the official company website will not tell about eventual off-duty services.
Levitian
[QUOTE=Darkelf999; 1146984]Hi everyone,
I will be in Shanghai this weekend and intend to check out Bodi. I've printed out the map and everything. My question is if I go around 3-4pm will there be a good selection, or is the selection terrible until 8pm? Secondly will there be any issues getting in as I read some posts in the past saying they are cautious about new customers? I am a well groomed, young looking Chinese guy, not sure if that would raise suspicions on their part. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks! [/QUOTE]Afternoon all the way.
Can you tell me the website? If you don't want here, just pm me.
Will be in shanghai soon, sounds interesting.
Thanks.
Thomas Jefferson.
[QUOTE=SunsetGuy; 1146861]I have booked a gorgeous lady to help me take around the city. I clearly understand the limits of tour guide / translator.
I can't help wonder if she provides other services. Her email and online advertisement is quite suggetive in lines of 'romantic encounter'. But the company she works for clearly states on their website that guide will not meet anyone in private. She has offered to take me around best bars in town as well.
So, what is general perception of these lovely tour guides? I don't want to ask her direct as it might be insulting to her. Any tips?[/QUOTE]
Hi all,
I will find myself in Shanghai in a couple of weeks, and will be staying at the Radisson New World. Don't have much free time, so wanted to check out a sauna close by. I see that there is a Fengdingyuan Sauna nearby. One review in 2009 that wasn't bad, but wanted to know if anyone has been there more recently. Any recommendations for other saunas near the Radisson?
In reading this forum, it seems like there was quite a bit of LE around the Expo last year, so some places like Shanghai Hotel were shut down. How is it now?
Thanks, R.
[QUOTE=R The Man; 1147149]Hi all,
In reading this forum, it seems like there was quite a bit of LE around the Expo last year, so some places like Shanghai Hotel were shut down. How is it now?
Thanks, R. [/QUOTE]Sorry, I found a more recent review of Shanghai Hotel. Seems it is still open, but service not like before. Comments?
R.
[QUOTE=Darkelf999; 1146984]Hi everyone,
I will be in Shanghai this weekend and intend to check out Bodi. I've printed out the map and everything. My question is if I go around 3-4pm will there be a good selection, or is the selection terrible until 8pm? Secondly will there be any issues getting in as I read some posts in the past saying they are cautious about new customers? I am a well groomed, young looking Chinese guy, not sure if that would raise suspicions on their part. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks! [/QUOTE]All the girls / lineup will be at work no later than 2pm. You are fine at 3-4pm.
Are you implying that you are James Bond? Asain style? lol Just make sure you tell them you are not the Secret Police.
PC out
[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1147266]All the girls / lineup will be at work no later than 2pm. You are fine at 3-4pm.
Are you implying that you are James Bond? Asain style? LOL Just make sure you tell them you are not the Secret Police.
PC out[/QUOTE]Haha, I said young looking, not good looking. I'm just worried I make the trip over there to be refused entry or get some bullcrap about them being veggie only. So I assume this would not happen?
[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson; 1147129]Can you tell me the website? If you don't want here, just pm me.
Will be in shanghai soon, sounds interesting.
Thanks.
Thomas Jefferson. [/QUOTE]TJ,
Why self imposed drama, Heting, Sacrosa and the rest are all 100% drama free and stress free. LOL.
PC out
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1146714]I ended up in malones. After walking aimlessly for 20 minutes from my apartment. In random direction without care. Inside what do I find?
99% old white guys. The only 2 girls there were the waitresses and even they were not good looking. I ordered a tsing dao for 45 rmb, it tasted like water. Then I left.
Seriously, am I just unlucky, or is malones really a hot spot for p4p? It is the first bar I went to here with the intention of finding a hot girl, and I'm not kidding when I say it was 99% old white guys.
Please tell me I'm just unlucky.[/QUOTE]Yes you are unlucky. Depends what night you go on, and what time. As others have said, there are many girls there late in the night, mostly on Thur. Fri. Sat. Many non WG there too, that want to have a good time with a foreigner. I met a nice girl last November, and have been seeing her steady since then.
Stayed in hotel at the airport as I had early flight next morning.
When checking was already greeted by some smiling girls. When I went to the room after midnight a girl (she introduced herself with Ming) was stroling aorund the floors asking if I want massage.
As I still had energy but didn't want go back to faraway city I said why not. She quoted 600 for FS.
After agreeing I got a proper oilmassage. However when the real action should start she tried to convince me for HJ or breast f*k. I declined and insisted on original arrangement.
Than she started to argue she had no condom (but I had) , I'm too big, bla, bla.
Just finished the deed, paid and went to sleep. Not a fantastic experience, but it was at the airport
Is it still open? Haven't heard anyone report on it in a while.
[QUOTE=Mark17;1147541]Yes you are unlucky. Depends what night you go on, and what time. As others have said, there are many girls there late in the night, mostly on Thur. Fri. Sat. Many non WG there too, that want to have a good time with a foreigner. I met a nice girl last November, and have been seeing her steady since then.[/QUOTE]I'd probably say you were extremely lucky instead.
Went to Waves (hailang) sauna today. Good experience. Easy to find at 1227 Zhongshan Road near Wuzhong Lu. The building has a waves pattern on it's facade. Simple but clean decor, efficient and friendly staff and I recognized the manager from 999. I went at 1pm and was lead straight to the fishbowl after showering. 862's titties said Hello, to me and the manager also recommended her so she was an easy choice. The lineup wasn't great but some doable ones. 862 wasn't particularly smiley in the fishbowl but once she led me to the room she opened up. Very fun girl. Big tits, decent body with slim waist, decent face. 8/10.
Normally I skip the soapland but gave it a go today and she performed well, with enthusiasm and little sexy giggles. BJ on the mattress. Led to bed and I skipped AR / tongue bath. Let her ease into a nice drawn out BJ. Not the best I've had but quite good and she was mimicking red rope actions by swirling her head around. She was very attentive and pleasing. I was about to cum but held off. I should have though because as we moved onto sex I came pretty quick. Also a little DATY and DFK but when I went down on her she started spasming and as I was her first client for the day perhaps she herself didn't want to tire out. Still she didn't reject that kind of stuff. Cuddled and chatted a bit and then I had to go. Not sure if 2 pops offered but I had some other stuff to do. If I repeated with her I'd try for 2 pops to get more time shagging.
Can definately recommend her and she has big tits with a slim waist. Great attitude. 862.
[QUOTE=White Dragon;1147695]Is it still open? Haven't heard anyone report on it in a while.[/QUOTE]Yep. It's most certainly open. And they have much new talent. Ask Toney for a line up and he will put three in the room. You can also ask him in advance of the session while walking from the ready room to the 'gun room' about each girl's service level and overall attitude. By the time you hit the door of the 'gun room' you've got some information on your side and can concentrate on the girls' overall reaction and eye contact prior to making your selection. Somewhat of a new format, but it works fairly well.
[QUOTE=Davidam;1145929]Couple of years agi I had a great massage experience in an MP with HE opposite Mariott Courtyard near weifang Road. The special thing was that all the girls were wearing stockings! And very nice place further as well. Now I found out that this place is completely gone. Does anyone know where to find a similar experience? Beautiful girls in stockings and HE.[/QUOTE]Are you serious?
From Courtyard, turn right walk 200 yards down Weifang Lu, at Supreme Tower corner, turn Left, into Laoshan Lu! Eyes right!
Fz
[QUOTE=Darkelf999; 1146984]Hi everyone,
I will be in Shanghai this weekend and intend to check out Bodi. I've printed out the map and everything. My question is if I go around 3-4pm will there be a good selection, or is the selection terrible until 8pm? Secondly will there be any issues getting in as I read some posts in the past saying they are cautious about new customers? I am a well groomed, young looking Chinese guy, not sure if that would raise suspicions on their part. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks![/QUOTE]I went there a couple of weeks ago at 12:30 in the afternoon and they must have had 30 girls, almost all great looking. Also, no problem being a newbie. I'm a 60 year old white guy. The place was very nice and the service fabulous.
I recently did a quick business trip to Shanghai and Hongkong. The fact that I had little time and was staying with (female) colleagues meant I did not have time for the bars but had a perfectly satisfactory incall experience through [url]http://www.shh-massage.com/.[/url] The girl arrived at my door in about 30 minutes with no difficulties from the hotel (Hyatt on the Bund) and while she didn't look quite as special as she did on the website she didn't look bad. Not much English and very professional massage, cat bath etc. She would not do much of a blow job without a condom (just a bit of licking) but made up for it with an excellent squatting routine.
Spent 2 hours in the room for 1200 RMB plus a tip (quite a lot I know but the best deal I could get in the time available)
In Hongkong I did the 141 thing. Much cheaper for an hour of (very noisy) sex in the room.
[QUOTE=SunsetGuy;1146861]I have booked a gorgeous lady to help me take around the city. I clearly understand the limits of tour guide / translator...., what is general perception of these lovely tour guides? I don't want to ask her direct as it might be insulting to her. Any tips?[/QUOTE]I can try and let how it works. Is she posted on website or arranged by your company?
[QUOTE=Darkelf999;1147382]Haha, I said young looking, not good looking. I'm just worried I make the trip over there to be refused entry or get some bullcrap about them being veggie only. So I assume this would not happen?[/QUOTE]What does Veggie only mean? I don't follow?
Just go in after 2pm and have a good time. Heting on Siping Lu is also wonderful and before 7pm is a discount of 688rmb, Sacrosa is 588 before 7pm.
Both places have the same owner and quality is mostly always good. I have had quite a few as temp gfs outside the place and still talk to one of the girls even though she has gone back to Guangxi. This girl is a true gem. Also, most of these girls working are supporting there parents so be nice to them as well.
PC out
Look, I've been in Shanghai 30 months. Clicked with a couple girls. Both originally from Sarcosa. One was 19 when I started fucking her. We will celebrate her 21st later this year. The other a little older but fucking good, very fucking good. They cycle, they have periods, they go home for CNY for a vacation or leave for a month or two or three for whatever. The odd time I try a new girl. They move from one location to another. Age isn't an issue. At least not for me. Most would consider a girl half my age too fucking old. Chemistry and a smile go a long way in great sex.
You want a fucking *****. Treat her like one. She most likely has what it takes. You want a girlfriend for an afternoon, fixed price, repeat at your leisure. Treat her like one.
Now and then I want a down and dirty, nasty hand job. Walk in, up the stairs, leave 20 minutes later. 50 to the house 50 to the girl. I know where to go for that as well.
Great story but where is the HeTing place?
What's the address?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Bxbxbx; 1146029]Most of you have already read about this place, so I'll spare the location details for this report and get straight to the girl. Tonight I went out, feeling nostalgic, and wanting to get with a girl who reminded me of when I was in University. I landed on #321:21 years old, from DaLian. Adorable face, smallish breasts, a little chubby but great legs and a really playful personality. As soon as I picked her, I knew I made a good decision. She looked to me and said &35874; &35874; &20320; then looked at the other girls and said &23545; &19981; &36215; &65281; I had a good laugh about that.
The rundown:
- Entered the room, she prep'd it.
- Undressed herself, disrobed me, immediately began to kiss my neck, bite my lower lip and play with my balls.
- Pushed me onto the bed, I turned over for the catbath.
- Great catbath, including licking and sucking my feet and getting me on all fours into a teabag-style ball-suck.
- Turned over for a great deepthroat BJ.
- Stood me up, propped one leg up on the beg, stroked me while biting my nipples, then got on her knees to continue to BJ.
- Sex was missionary, but I could really feel her pussy holding on to me. Great pussy, not too tight but certainly not loose. We went forehead-to-forehead, her biting my lip and kissing again. Really hot. Felt like a genuine GFE.
- Finish, she takes out some candy and offers me, we chat, quiz each other in Chinese and English. She has a wonderful laugh, really bright eyes. Plays with my balls the entire time.
- Calls Mamasan / front desk while jerking me off.
- I cum again, we relax again, she massages my front side / shoulders / thighs.
- 95 minutes later we depart.
I know some guys have body / image standards, but for me it's all experience and attitude. That's what I go to HeTing or HaiLang for. This girl is absolutely on my short list. She really went for it, and we had a great time. I highly recommend her to you and truly hope your experience is as great as mine was.
BTW: Be careful on your way out. The wallpaper in the hallways is like razorwire. I got a nasty papercut from just running my finger along the wall lackadaisically! [/QUOTE]
Hi Everyone,
I went to shanghai few years ago and found a place near the train station I forgot the name and exact location but it was like 5 to 10mn walk.
It was a sauna and the manager was able to speak English as he was from Hong kong.
The girl I had was really a stunner then I had another end job by a farm girl she was quite chuby but she gave me the best HJ I evcer end in my whole mongering life
I will be in shanghai next wee kand would like to go back to that place all iremember is it was on left when you look at the train station that s all I remember and the amazing times that I had over there.
Thank you for your informations.
Just returned from Shanghai and thought I would contribute my report on Bodi after having found the discussions here quite helpful. Went on a Monday afternoon at 3pm. Had no problem finding it as cab driver knew the hotel (I had the map just in case). Went straight in, changed, was led to a small room with 4 armchairs and told to wait. Not to a lounge area although later I discovered there was one. Sat there about 15 mins, place seemed pretty busy at 3pm and nobody even brought me my drink. After 15 mins a manager came in and asked if I wanted to see the lineup. Hell yeah I do. Walked down the hall to a room where there was a lineup of girls standing almost like a criminal lineup. Immediately was disappointed by the lineup, there were maybe 12 girls and they ranged between 4-6 in quality. Girls were being picked as I stood there so I quickly picked one, a pleasant looking girl next door type. As she walked me upstairs, I noticed there were continuously girls coming back down and entering the room so I guess its all luck of the draw.
Ended up having a good session, girl was sweet, chatty and accomodating, procedure was standard. As I was pressed for time, I had to either pick another girl immediately or just relax and leave. As soon as I re-entered the lounge area I asked the manager when the next lineup was and he said you can see it now. Ok so off I went, was a different set of girls but quality still 4-6. Disappointing and almost walked out but a girl who kept smiling at me caught my eye. Not a looker and I wouldn't have picked her normally, but had a juicy looking body and a smile on her that was just inviting me to fuck her. Ok figured what the hell, and boy am I glad I picked her. In the room she proceeded to give me the best nuru nuru massage I have EVER had, and usually I am not a fan of it and find it boring. But this girl just blew me away (literally) and at one point as she had her mouth clamped on my little bro, while stroking it with one hand and stroking my nipple with the other I almost exploded in her mouth despite having just cum 20 mins ago. I held out but onto the bed she proceeded to give me a mind blowing BJ and as soon as she mounted me I came uncontrollably after about 30 seconds. And there I was worried I couldn't come immediately after the last session. So, goes to show sometimes skill is better than looks.
Showered and got the front desk to call me a cab, all in all a good visit. Worth revisiting in the future.
[QUOTE=Leotak; 1148903]Great story but where is the HeTing place?
What's the address?
Thanks[/QUOTE]You seem to be a lazy boy. Will you have the energy to survive a sauna programme?
I am sure you are not familiar with the terms RTFF, but the "abbreviation" button above might come to help you.
If that is not sufficient, try harder, with the search function. That is the only think one should DIY in a forum like this.
Even an old man as myself could spot the full information on "WHERE" Heting Elite is in a matter of a bunch of seconds.
As quick as the powerful Google search engine, the ISG engine provided a few links to the magic words "Heting Elite" and one of them is more informative than a Wikipedia contribution.
Here it is for your perusal.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?945-East-China-Shanghai&p=1000271&highlight=heting[/url]
Hope you can benefit of MY time and that after you visit the place we can read YOUR report.
Have a nice day.
[QUOTE=Frenchk; 1148998]Hi Everyone,
I went to shanghai few years ago and found a place near the train station I forgot the name and exact location but it was like 5 to 10mn walk.
It was a sauna and the manager was able to speak English as he was from Hong kong.
The girl I had was really a stunner then I had another end job by a farm girl she was quite chuby but she gave me the best HJ I evcer end in my whole mongering life
I will be in shanghai next wee kand would like to go back to that place all iremember is it was on left when you look at the train station that s all I remember and the amazing times that I had over there.
Thank you for your informations. [/QUOTE]To the French guy,
A couple of years in the Sauna / BBS business may as be 1000 yrs. That place is gone for sure, time to try your luck at somewhere new. The forum has told you 4-10 places that will take good care of you.
PC out
[QUOTE=Waldeck2; 1148806]Look, I've been in Shanghai 30 months. Clicked with a couple girls. Both originally from Sarcosa. One was 19 when I started fucking her. We will celebrate her 21st later this year. The other a little older but fucking good, very fucking good. They cycle, they have periods, they go home for CNY for a vacation or leave for a month or two or three for whatever. The odd time I try a new girl. They move from one location to another. Age isn't an issue. At least not for me. Most would consider a girl half my age too fucking old. Chemistry and a smile go a long way in great sex.
You want a fucking. Treat her like one. She most likely has what it takes. You want a girlfriend for an afternoon, fixed price, repeat at your leisure. Treat her like one.
Now and then I want a down and dirty, nasty hand job. Walk in, up the stairs, leave 20 minutes later. 50 to the house 50 to the girl. I know where to go for that as well. [/QUOTE]Speaking of Sacrosa, the first or second time I was there I met a Mongolian beauty that stood 5'10. Wow she was a stunner at the very least. She was working to but a home for her parents and her in Mongolia. I wanted to marry her but alas she was commited to Mongolia. Oh well, one of the best fucks of my life.
PC out
Hi I am now one week in China in Shanghai. Today I visited Najing wlking streat (Najing east road). About every 10 meter a girl cam to me to talk English and then she wanted to bring me to a coffe shop.
Thne the touts came to me ask me for massage, only look they said. So I followed a few and they showed me a place with osme nice girls. They said only 400 for the girl to come to my hotel for 3 hours so I wanted to agree but then they said I had to sit down for a least one drink there.
Since I have been ripped off a few times in this kind of places I walked.
Did anybody try this kind of massage places. Why can the girls not go directly to my hotel. I think it ia all spam. Then the coffee girls on the street, is thia all spam also. Some walk with you all the time and it is hard to get rid of them.
Some touts offered directly girls to come to my hotel but they wanted 100 dollar. Then I said 400 RMB and then they said only half hour for the girls then.
Seems that the pickup places like Malone and Manhattan offer more value for money. Anybody got experience in being ripped off in Nanjing road or is it ok to go in this kind of bars. In Bangkok this are the places where you get ripped off since they come after the order with all kind of hidden charges like cover charge, room charge or something else.
Tiffany
[QUOTE=Member #2096; 1149164]Hi I am now one week in China in Shanghai. Today I visited Najing wlking streat (Najing east road). About every 10 meter a girl cam to me to talk English and then she wanted to bring me to a coffe shop.
Thne the touts came to me ask me for massage, only look they said. So I followed a few and they showed me a place with osme nice girls. They said only 400 for the girl to come to my hotel for 3 hours so I wanted to agree but then they said I had to sit down for a least one drink there.
Since I have been ripped off a few times in this kind of places I walked.
Did anybody try this kind of massage places. Why can the girls not go directly to my hotel. I think it ia all spam. Then the coffee girls on the street, is thia all spam also. Some walk with you all the time and it is hard to get rid of them.
Some touts offered directly girls to come to my hotel but they wanted 100 dollar. Then I said 400 RMB and then they said only half hour for the girls then.
Seems that the pickup places like Malone and Manhattan offer more value for money. Anybody got experience in being ripped off in Nanjing road or is it ok to go in this kind of bars. In Bangkok this are the places where you get ripped off since they come after the order with all kind of hidden charges like cover charge, room charge or something else.
Tiffany[/QUOTE]A 100% garantee that this is the rip off as well. Be sure about it. 1 Drink and it wil add up with fruit plates etc. You will not get to the hotel. Their mission is to keep you there and feed you with expensive food and drinks.
Enjoy chatting on the road, but stay away from any inside. The road is known for that scam.
No need to experience.
Ragard.
Brain666
I have been frequenting a nice little Massage establishment that does a very nice HE.
Cnr of Wuning Nan Road and Wanhangdu Road, Jing An, just 5 min walk down Wanhangdu Road from Jing An Temple. Look for a little alleyway with the word Massage over the arch. Down the alley you will see "24hr Massage" prominently displayed.
Clean, with a shower and delightful girls.
208 RMB for the massage. 100 RMB for the HE and a further 100 RMB for the girls to strip down
Thanks for the info.
100 for strip down, what do you mean exactly? Entirely naked or something else.
Also what are girls wearing?
[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1149717]I have been frequenting a nice little Massage establishment that does a very nice HE.
Cnr of Wuning Nan Road and Wanhangdu Road, Jing An, just 5 min walk down Wanhangdu Road from Jing An Temple. Look for a little alleyway with the word Massage over the arch. Down the alley you will see "24hr Massage" prominently displayed.
Clean, with a shower and delightful girls.
208 RMB for the massage. 100 RMB for the HE and a further 100 RMB for the girls to strip down[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JeromeChanel; 1150084]Thanks for the info.
100 for strip down, what do you mean exactly? Entirely naked or something else.
Also what are girls wearing? [/QUOTE]For an additional 100. They get naked. But hush hush. Must not let the manager know.
Last visit had a 69 HE. DATY but no BJ on HE. Probably on account of all the oil!
But she did give me her number to call later
[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1149717]I have been frequenting a nice little Massage establishment that does a very nice HE.
Cnr of Wuning Nan Road and Wanhangdu Road, Jing An, just 5 min walk down Wanhangdu Road from Jing An Temple. Look for a little alleyway with the word Massage over the arch. Down the alley you will see "24hr Massage" prominently displayed.
Clean, with a shower and delightful girls.
208 RMB for the massage. 100 RMB for the HE and a further 100 RMB for the girls to strip down[/QUOTE]Wow. 408rmb for a nekked HJ? Why not spring the extra 190rmb and go to Sacrosa or 250rmb for Heting? 2 pops and gauranteed action.
I don't get it?
PC out
[QUOTE=Thekraz;1150137]For an additional 100. They get naked. But hush hush. Must not let the manager know.[/QUOTE]I am always wondering whether a manager if this kind never checks his or her staff by sending from time to time some friend to test what happens.
I would if I were one.
Suppose you as a manager are strict for whatever reason. A HE is ok whilst a naked girl might imply FS and LE might be not happy at all if they come to know (can use same technique: do a test).
The manager and the venue would be in troubles without being aware, knowledgeable and for no revenue.
I tend to believe the management knows (a happy customer is a repeat customer) , closes an eye or two, let's the girls earn some extra cash (happy staff will assure continuity and consistency, it is up to them to fire anybody not ok at their eyes). A win-win situation. And if LE comes around plan A is enforced "we do not know. Girls initiative we don't support, ask around, we never encourage this!". More thrill for the mongerers as they think to obtain something unreachable: more exciting.
I am spending two weeks in shanghai, I am arriving Sunday may 1st. I do no speak Chinese. I have rtff and I will continue to research but we all know that the learning curve is steep for a non Chinese speaker. I am on a limited budget, (I just lost my job and I am using what I have left to have fun in shanghai.) I hope to have at least one sauna visit (found a good post on Bodi) if I can swing it, but I am on a SW or low cost budget. (I do have standards, I. E. Looks make for a better experience.) I know beggars can't be choosers. I appreciate any kindness you can show me.
I have donated to the forum and have used the Alaska forum for a few years. I hope to try new things etc. I look forward to hearing from you.
Again, I will continue to RTFF.
[QUOTE=Alaska Man;1150326]I am spending two weeks in shanghai.......... I do no speak Chinese.......... I am on a limited budget,[/QUOTE]Seriously my friend if I were you I would spend no more than a week in Shanghai. Go to Changping (Dongguan) for the other week.
Check the Dongguan thread. Drop BigSwinginDave a pm. He is a great guy and he speciaises in looking after guys like yourself. I have used his services and can vouch 100% for him.
CP will be MUCH MUCH cheaper than SH. Girls much younger also. Good luck and please report back on your adventure.
[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1150137]For an additional 100. They get naked. But hush hush. Must not let the manager know.
Last visit had a 69 HE. DATY but no BJ on HE. Probably on account of all the oil!
But she did give me her number to call later[/QUOTE]Kraz.
Please pm me about this. I'm curious which one allowed DATY.
Beijing4987
Ok,
So I guess this is my first report? Last night I was at a club called 'cd soho'. I wasn't looking to do any p2p, just enjoy some good music and some drinks. It's a very nice club. 100rmb for open bar, weekdays 60rmb for open bar.
I noticed that there are like 20 or 30 hot girls just standing at the back of the place all night long. All night just standing there and no guys talking to them, and they aren't even talking to each other. My question is, are they p2p? Anyone know how much they charge? I didn't speak to them. But surely they are hookers, I mean. I've been to that club twice now and seen the same girls standing there each night. Hopefully someone can tell me how much is a 'normal' price to take one home for an hour, I don't want to get ripped off!
Speaking of getting ripped off. After spending a few hours at cd soho, I walked around and found a place called 'Xinmilan private VIP club'. The funny thing is, I wasn't mongering, just walking around to see Shanghai.
Anyway, I was taken upstairs and to a room with 2 girls. They sang a song and I ordered 2 Heineken and one coke for myself. 20minutes later I decide its best to leave and guess how much they want to charge me? 6000rmb. Thats right. 6000rmb for 20 minutes and 3 beers. No sex, no kissing, no touching. Just 2 girls for 20 minutes company in a KTV-esque room. And the girls singing was ear-piercingly bad.
I refused to pay, then a manager came and shouted at me, and then like 6 guys entered the room. I knew they can't touch me as they don't want police involved (beating a foreigner is bad) so I just walked out without paying! I did tip each girl 200rmb, but the girls were nice and this was before they tried to scam me out of 6000rmb.
Please stay away from this club, its near cd soho, about 5 minutes walking distance. 'Xinmilan private VIP club' beware.
I should add, this establishment also immediately gave my table 2 plates of fresh fruit, water melon I believe. That was the first alarm bell in my head and I told them I don't want it and made them take it away. So really the 6000rmb is the price to rent the room for 20 minutes plus the company of 2 girls I guess.
Does anyone know if I would have actually been able to take the girl home? She was cute and seemed nice.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1150436]I should add, this establishment also immediately gave my table 2 plates of fresh fruit, water melon I believe. That was the first alarm bell in my head and I told them I don't want it and made them take it away. So really the 6000rmb is the price to rent the room for 20 minutes plus the company of 2 girls I guess.
Does anyone know if I would have actually been able to take the girl home? She was cute and seemed nice. [/QUOTE]Dude, check my post in the Nanjing forum. This happened to me in SH and recently in Nanjing. Actually, they will try and rough you up if you don't pay. So basically, you have a choice. 1) avoid anything like this 2) try and fight (most Chinese guys can't fight worth a shit even the PLA guys who are super lame compared to rest of world military) then escape. That is, if you know how to handle yourself.
There are gals at Xintiandi who walk around looking for foreigners and then try to get them to go to KTV or 'clubs' and the same shit happens.
Stick to either trying to pick up gals without going to their recommendations Or go to the sauna's or BBS' reviewed here.
Just stay switched on at all times.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Beijing4987; 1150421]Kraz.
Please pm me about this. I'm curious which one allowed DATY.
Beijing4987[/QUOTE]Pm me too, I'm curious as well (although maybe it was not his first time or it just 'happened').
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1150434]Ok,
So I guess this is my first report? Please stay away from this club, its near cd soho, about 5 minutes walking distance. 'Xinmilan private VIP club' beware. [/QUOTE]Usually newbies are kind of brought in these scam bars.
This time you seemed to voluntarily get into it.
Apparently you did not RTFF enough as there are plenty of warnings about these scams.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1150436]- - - Does anyone know if I would have actually been able to take the girl home? She was cute and seemed nice.[/QUOTE]Sorry to seem flaming, but you seem not having learnt the lesson. You escaped a major issue. There have been people going through serious troubles. Especiall I fhtey engage o some sexual activities, maybe induced by the establishment, videotaping you and having a proof that will be given to police in case you create troubles afterwards. That proof will show you have been engaging in sex act and the girl wil testify you paid her.
From victim status you will become a defendant.
You do not want to experiment Shangai jailhouse, do you?
With plenty of shagging opportunities, in saunas etc, why do you insist to think about "that" girl?
Wasn't enough that she or her friends were part of the scam?
Get a life, man. Do not yourself in troubles and think with the upper head!
Look, the Shanghai forum is extensive concerning locations and availability to engage in prolonged enjoyable sex. Saunas mentioned will have up to 20 or 25 girls available. Many are knockouts. For you guys to get into trouble with scams makes me wonder if you can read, listen to advice. Maybe you are just dumb asses and think you can put one over on the Chinese. Go ahead. Don't believe what you read on this or any other Chinese site. Have a great day. It's a lovely city for fucking good looking to beautiful girls. Your dick will get limp or your pockets empty before you run out of girls and locations. Up to you. But enough already of this. Oh jesus I was scammed by the Chinese.
[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1150577]Look, the Shanghai forum is extensive concerning locations and availability to engage in prolonged enjoyable sex. Saunas mentioned will have up to 20 or 25 girls available. Many are knockouts. For you guys to get into trouble with scams makes me wonder if you can read, listen to advice. Maybe you are just dumb asses and think you can put one over on the Chinese. Go ahead. Don't believe what you read on this or any other Chinese site. Have a great day. It's a lovely city for fucking good looking to beautiful girls. Your dick will get limp or your pockets empty before you run out of girls and locations. Up to you. But enough already of this. Oh jesus I was scammed by the Chinese.[/QUOTE]After 60 plus trips, I have many GF's in SH, some have gone on and gotten married and we still keep in touch, treat them well and they will always be there for you. I always try to meet a new one on each trip, last trip found a great young professional girl, back from dinner she paid the taxi, next morning walked her down stairs, refused my money for the taxi back home. So next week we go to Macua for a little R & R, she bought her own ticket. (this ones a keeper) Have one special one though-no matter what time I arrive from the US, she meets me at the hotel, . Sothe moral here is to be yourself and do your homework before you get to SH.
LOL@'Oh jesus I was scammed by the Chinese'.
Did I complain about being scammed? I remember posting a warning about a particular night club.
The only reason I logged on here is because I wanted to ask about the girls at CD SOHO dance club, to which no-one has answered yet. That club is fucking amazing inside with great music. I do appreciate the advice of people here to just go to a sauna. However, standing in line with a bunch of guys, taking a shower and being dried off by another guy, and picking a girl from a line-up isn't my idea of fun. To me it sounds like a long process by the time you actually get into a room with a girl.
I am not complaining. I wasn't scammed, because I didn't pay what they asked for. I didn't engage in any sexual activities so I don't care if I was live on justinTV. Bionicman, by definition, if they video tape you having sex then it can only be for purposes of blackmail. Now, I'm no lawyer but, it makes no sense for them to get the police involved as what they are doing is also illegal. What to they gain from putting a laowai in jail not to mention one of their own working girls, plus having their premises shut down? Do you think the police would only arrest me, but think this club with secret video camera and girls accepting money is kosher?
So back to what I was curious to know about, does anyone know the dealio with the 20 to 30 hot girls just standing at the back of that night club all night? Reasonable price for some company? They are 9's and 10's in my opinion.
Well, maybe 8's and 9's. But it IS an open bar; P
Here are my my reports about the New Waves and Sacrosa sauna I visited recently.
Sacrosa.
When I arrived, I asked for my favorite #298, but apparently she left already, so I asked for #267, who was available. #267 gives one of the best BBJ in the city. So for those who like BBJ, she's the one. There was no need to wait, and she took me straight to the room. Inside the room, she told me that next time, I have to tell her number first at the reception, so she can get an additional 50RMB for the session.
Well, as always, the session with her was enthusiastic, and the BBJ a heaven. I finished her 2 times and paid the bill satisfied.
Number #298.
Looks = 8.
Boobs = 9 (but silicon)
FS = 7.
BBJ = 10.
DFK = 7.
GF = 8
Overall = 8.
New Wave.
I went there on 30 April and 1st May in the afternoon. Not much customers, so much more choice.
First day, I chose #939 from Dongbei. A pretty face, with pretty body, only the boobs were a bit small. Here's the result:
Number #939 (from Dongbei)
Looks = 8.
Boobs = 6.
FS = 7.
BBJ = 7.
DFK = Not allowed.
GF = 7 (a bit mechanical)
Overall = 7.
Feeling horny, I decided to go again on the 2nd day. This time, the choice was even bigger. I chose #982 from Hunan. I asked her the reason why there are not many customers, she replied that all guys are spending time with their family. Hehehe.
The session was good, but a bit mechanical. No kissing unfortunately.
Number #982 (from Hunan)
Looks = 7.
Boobs = 6.
FS = 7.
BBJ = 7.
DFK = Not allowed.
GF = 7 (a bit mechanical)
Overall = 7.
She had a scare on her belly, and this kind of calm me down, as I don't really like doing it with a girl who is a mother.
Overally, I still prefer my girl at Sacrosa, who is more girl friendly, but the choice is bigger at the New Wave.
Anyone to recommend?
Friday went to a BBS on Jintai Lu. I saw 4 of them; 2 had 5 or 6 girls, one 4 girls, and 1 just 1 girl. I picked the latter and had your standard BBS experience; 300rmb for FS (no DFK, no DATY, yada yada) but it was what I expected and it fit the bill.
Sunday went to Bodi around 11pm. Place was dead, which was good because no waiting. Only 6-7 girls to choose from. I chose a small girl, #502 from Dongbei. Quite cute but service v. Mechanical and not so good so I won't repeat with her. Plus, because she was small, she complained about my size and although I thought it fit in quite well, she seemed to be scared or just waiting for it to get done. I thought maybe she is too young or inexperienced but she told me she is 22.
Good info, not sure if I make down that far but I appreciate the heads up. I have to be in qingdao on the 16th.
I am in shanghai and I have been rttf. Gona get out there as soon as I recover from 26 hours of planes and airports.
I have some addresses and location info I just need to get my bearings and learn the metro and lay of the land. The language barrier is definitely an issue. I think I will hang around Manhattans or Malone's and hope for the gods to smile on me. If I watch my budget I think I can swing a one time splurge at bodi or sarcosa.
I would like to know a good place to meet genuine nice lady's just see if I come across a connection of mutual interest.
Thank again for any help.
[QUOTE=Alaska Man; 1151233]Good info, not sure if I make down that far but I appreciate the heads up. I have to be in qingdao on the 16th.
I am in shanghai and I have been rttf. Gona get out there as soon as I recover from 26 hours of planes and airports.
I have some addresses and location info I just need to get my bearings and learn the metro and lay of the land. The language barrier is definitely an issue. I think I will hang around Manhattans or Malone's and hope for the gods to smile on me. If I watch my budget I think I can swing a one time splurge at bodi or sarcosa.
I would like to know a good place to meet genuine nice lady's just see if I come across a connection of mutual interest.
Thank again for any help. [/QUOTE]Dude, Manhattan and Malone's is not the place to pick up Chinese girls. You don't come to Shanghai for SEA women; they're better gotten in SEA; more variety, lower price. And a Manhattan / Malones girl will cost you minimum 800rmb if you wait until very late (3am) or much more if you try to take one earlier. The saunas / spas are 800rmb, so not sure I understand how that is a splurge. I would say a Manhattan pick up is the splurge.
Go to Xintiandi instead and pickup a Chinese girl for 500-800rmb. Just make sure anything valuable in your room is locked in the safe before you bring her back. If you want a freebie, then go to a regular bar or night club (eg. Mint) and try to meet a girl. The ones there are probably not working girls but they're still looking.
If your budget is really that tight, go to a BBS; cheap but not that satisfying if you want more than a very quicky.
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1150983]Friday went to a BBS on Jintai Lu. I saw 4 of them; 2 had 5 or 6 girls, one 4 girls, and 1 just 1 girl. I picked the latter and had your standard BBS experience; 300rmb for FS (no DFK, no DATY, yada yada) but it was what I expected and it fit the bill.[/QUOTE]Hi Ronin, I think this is the girl which is always working alone, once I was invited into her 'shop' and she quoted 300, but she showed a somewhat bad attitude (gave me the impression it would be a very hush-hush affair, even more so than the usual BBS experience) , so I decided to try my luck with one of the other shops in the same street. There paid only 150, so she is expensive as well. Just for my curiosity, how long did the whole session last and was she again dressed in normal civilian clothes, compared to the other ladies in the street who are dressed more revealing.
Thanks for your report.
[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1151270]Dude, Manhattan and Malone's is not the place to pick up Chinese girls. You don't come to Shanghai for SEA women; they're better gotten in SEA; more variety, lower price. And a Manhattan / Malones girl will cost you minimum 800rmb if you wait until very late (3am) or much more if you try to take one earlier. The saunas / spas are 800rmb, so not sure I understand how that is a splurge. I would say a Manhattan pick up is the splurge.
Go to Xintiandi instead and pickup a Chinese girl for 500-800rmb. Just make sure anything valuable in your room is locked in the safe before you bring her back. If you want a freebie, then go to a regular bar or night club (eg. Mint) and try to meet a girl. The ones there are probably not working girls but they're still looking.
If your budget is really that tight, go to a BBS; cheap but not that satisfying if you want more than a very quicky. [/QUOTE]Tottaly sums it up.
Malones has a few girls that are working. But so far I have never seem a good looking girl there.
They are mostly older and dress like a hooker (cheap one)
Manhatten on the other side. All girls are "working". I would say Philipines and vietnamese make up 90% of them.
No doubt there are some realy nice ones. Viets go fo 700 to 1500, PIs for 1000. 1500.
Its a good selection, party atmosphere and you can chat up a couple of girls before you make a selection.
Chinese girls can be found in more local places like the Multi track chain, mint, baby face, etc.
But be beware of scams. Only take them back to your place.
Thanks ronnin. I am only basing my plans on what info I can find on the forum and from the generous help of everyone here. While my budget it tight I can afford one decent session. I just want to make sure I don't scammed or bad deal. I do like a great massage, FS but I am a BJ lover. Not much point in hand job in my opinion. How about a day trip or over nighter by train to smaller town? Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Alaska Man;1151367]Thanks ronnin. I am only basing my plans on what info I can find on the forum and from the generous help of everyone here. While my budget it tight I can afford one decent session. I just want to make sure I don't scammed or bad deal. I do like a great massage, FS but I am a BJ lover. Not much point in hand job in my opinion. How about a day trip or over nighter by train to smaller town? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]A smaller town you might have problems finding what ou want that easy, go to a sauna in sh reported here. You get everything to want for 600. 800 rmb.
Heting. If you and the girl click you can get a little massage, she'll fuck you, snuggle a bit and give you a blowjob before you leave. Works for me. Great atmosphere. Oh and get a body rub on the way out. A little scratchy but I like it. 600 in the afternoon. Full line up by 2 PM.
[QUOTE=Alaska Man;1151367]Thanks ronnin. I am only basing my plans on what info I can find on the forum and from the generous help of everyone here. While my budget it tight I can afford one decent session. I just want to make sure I don't scammed or bad deal. I do like a great massage, FS but I am a BJ lover. Not much point in hand job in my opinion. How about a day trip or over nighter by train to smaller town? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1151279]Hi Ronin, I think this is the girl which is always working alone, once I was invited into her 'shop' and she quoted 300, but she showed a somewhat bad attitude (gave me the impression it would be a very hush-hush affair, even more so than the usual BBS experience) , so I decided to try my luck with one of the other shops in the same street. There paid only 150, so she is expensive as well. Just for my curiosity, how long did the whole session last and was she again dressed in normal civilian clothes, compared to the other ladies in the street who are dressed more revealing.
Thanks for your report. [/QUOTE]Yes, that sounds like the same place and the same girl; working alone and in street clothes, not lingerie like. I don't regret going there. There was another gal that used to work there I liked but she was a bit expenise too (300rmb). It lasted maybe 20mins. There's another street nearby that has a few BBS too that I used to frequent. Probably I'll go back there next time.
[QUOTE=Alaska Man;1151367]Thanks ronnin. I am only basing my plans on what info I can find on the forum and from the generous help of everyone here. While my budget it tight I can afford one decent session. I just want to make sure I don't scammed or bad deal. I do like a great massage, FS but I am a BJ lover. Not much point in hand job in my opinion. How about a day trip or over nighter by train to smaller town? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]If you're a BJ lover you should definitely go to a few BBS and ask for only BJ. Price should be 150-200. Hard to beat that!
Looking fwd to your reports after you hit town.
I'm staying in Shanghai this week in Pudong, and swarming outside my hotel every night are a bunch of men and women offering to take me to the "Ladies Sauna", with 300 RMB FS. I assume this is a scam, but if by some miracle it isn't, and someone knows the real deal about this, I'd greatly appreciate any information!
Yikes, ignore my previous post. I should have RTTF more closely.
Off to Sacrosa I go!
[QUOTE=ShinichiOta;1151566]I'm staying in Shanghai this week in Pudong, and swarming outside my hotel every night are a bunch of men and women offering to take me to the "Ladies Sauna", with 300 RMB FS. I assume this is a scam, but if by some miracle it isn't, and someone knows the real deal about this, I'd greatly appreciate any information![/QUOTE]I think you assume correctly. 300FS seems like a high pressure upsell session / flat out ripoff just waitng to happen.
[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1151560]If you're a BJ lover you should definitely go to a few BBS and ask for only BJ. Price should be 150-200. Hard to beat that!
Looking fwd to your reports after you hit town.[/QUOTE]It sure looks very cheap. Do the girl enjoy give BJ? I mean, nothing is more pleasurable than a BJ when it's given with some excitation. Never tried the BBS but sometimes I see some real stunners inside.
[QUOTE=Mike921;1151746]I think you assume correctly. 300FS seems like a high pressure upsell session / flat out ripoff just waitng to happen.[/QUOTE]Tried a long time ago. Took me to remote place and charged me $300 for a beer and plate full of snacks claiming it was a club and no lady. When refused to pay they threaten claiming they were Chinese Mafia.
Hi guys, what is the updated situation with the Glamour bar and Bar rouge?
I went there last year and had a great time. I know the girls there aren't the cheapest, but I like the fact it's a nice nightclub.
I honestly couldn't tell what girls were working and which weren't. Some were obvious, but the russians I couldn't tell.
Any hints?
Regarding the Massage place referenced in the title, sadly I can not confirm the same experience. I was very near by last night, so I decided to stop in and check this place out. Based on Thekraz's review, I was very interested. My experience is below.
The pro:
- Cute, young massage girl.
- Intense massage. She was walking on my back, which I really enjoy.
- Cheap massage (RMB 208 for 70 min)
- Massage girl was very comfortable with anal play, massaging my balls, having her tits sucked on and having her body massaged / groped as well.
The con:
- It's built next to (or underneath) a local KTV. So, so annoying. Even my girl said they are totally annoying.
- My girl would take RMB100 for HJ, but for the extra RMB100 she said she'd only lift her shirt. She showed me there was no lock on the door, and felt uncomfortable. Absolutely no nudity.
- Even when I asked for her to slow down, she wouldn't.
- The showers are disgusting.
I hope this was a rare occurrence, and maybe Thekraz can tell us the name of who he saw before so that other board users can repeat his good fortune?
Anyone else have an experience / report after Thekraz mentioned this place?
[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1150137]For an additional 100. They get naked. But hush hush. Must not let the manager know.
Last visit had a 69 HE. DATY but no BJ on HE. Probably on account of all the oil!
But she did give me her number to call later[/QUOTE]
That is an unusual story that I am going to tell you today. Some might judge me, some might find it interesting. Whatever.
About 3 weeks ago, I went with a friend to Manhatan, a place where I am used to go in shanghai. Once inside, a very young pretty girl came up to me.
She is from 22 (look 18) from vietnam and it was her first day in Manhattan and even her first day of working in the mongering industry. She kissed me very quickly and agreed to go back home with me for 1000rmb overnight.
We left home, once there, she showed herself as a very shy person and seemed not to be very happy to be here with me.
I don't know why I didn't want to push her to have sex, and as she looked hungry, I offered her to cook something. She accepted. After eating we talking a bit, a mix of Chinese, vietnamese, english with the help of google translate and she told me about her life in vietnam, her family etc. A very sweet girl.
We headed to bed, where we had sex. But I feel like it was a very bad time for her. But did her job very well.
9 am she wanted to leave, then she left leaving me her phone numbers.
Two days later, I went back to Manhattan where I only saw her friend, she was out with a customer. In the middle of the night she texted me to know if I wanted her to come over. But was very tired and agreed that she would come over the day after.
The day after that, she came over to my place and we talked a lot. She told me about unhappy she was to go to manhattan, and she was about to stop it. Anyways, we slept. And then in the morning when we woke up, I asked her if she had ever been to the top of the world financial tower in pudong, she said no and asked her if she wanted to go, and said yes and in a minute she was ready to go with a huge smile on her face. So here we go, heading to pudong. After seeeing the crazy view of shanghai from above, I told her that we could go to century park to do some boating and she was very happy to do that. Once there she bought me some cheap food, very sweet from her. She was holding my arm and kissing me all day long. After that she was very hungry, and decided to take her to a very nice place to have some food, once there, she looked at me like "what the fuck" and said I want "hamburger". Ok, no problem there is a mc Donald over there. Afterwards, she wanted to go back to my place, she took a nap while I Was working a bit and then I joined her in bed, where she gave me a great sex for free. She had to go back to her room, and she sent me messages all night long.
Two days later, she came back to my place and I told her not to go back to manhattan anymore if she didn't like it but said she needed it to reimburse her plane ticket and to give some money to her family.
The next day, I asked her if she wanted to come to my place for the next two weeks before she leaves to vietnam and she said to me she needed 6000 yuans to go back, and as I really didn't want her to go back to manhattan, I promised that I would give her 6000yuan just the day before her flight. 7m pm, she's in the lobby of my building with all her stuffs, ready to settle with me.
The story is really starting here.
During two weeks, she cooked for me, cleaned my apartment, she did everything for me. We spent our days, cuddling, having sex. 4,5 times a day, I've never been so tired and some day I even asked her not to have sex.
After two days, at my place, while having sex, she took the condom off and looked at me in the eyes, and said I love you, I want to feel you.
Every day, during two weeks, she woke me up at 3 am. 6 am to have sex. She just had 1 boyfriend before me and two customers at manahttan and I feel like she's discovering sex, she 's understanding that she can enjoy having sex. I gave her her first oral orgasm and now she want it everyday, three times a day.
We went out a lot, she met my friends here, we spent everyday together. Was a crazy good time, like I 've never had before.
The story is not over.
What is crazy about this story is that I am actually writing this report from Ho Chi Minh city (vietnam) where I have been for more than a week now. I met her brother, sister, friend, I went to her village by the sea where her mom and dad sell fish. I discovered her life, and I must say I was not expected that at all!
I still can't believe where she comes from, so much poverty but so much happiness, she smiles all the time and seems very happy to be back home.
We've been travelling around together using her motorbike, she paid everything, hotel, food, bus, gas!
I 'll be back to shanghai the 6th and she should be back there tooo, a few days later and sorry guys, she's not going back to manhattan for sure.
End of the story for now!
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1151836]That is an unusual story that I am going to tell you today. Some might judge me, some might find it interesting. Whatever. . . . End of the story for now![/QUOTE]You are not the first and you will not be the last.
Time will tell and we can only hope that you rnext report is as much as enthusiastic as this one and your wallet has not been drained too much.
Enjoy and have fun, but just be cautious as not only you seem to have found the perfect future ex wife, but you might be also risking ot become a permanent dad. And that is another story!
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1151836]That is an unusual story that I am going to tell you today. Some might judge me, some might find it interesting. Whatever.
About 3 weeks ago, I went with a friend to Manhatan, a place where I am used to go in shanghai. Once inside, a very young pretty girl came up to me.
She is from 22 (look 18) from vietnam and it was her first day in Manhattan and even her first day of working in the mongering industry. She kissed me very quickly and agreed to go back home with me for 1000rmb overnight.
We left home, once there, she showed herself as a very shy person and seemed not to be very happy to be here with me.
I don't know why I didn't want to push her to have sex, and as she looked hungry, I offered her to cook something. She accepted. After eating we talking a bit, a mix of Chinese, vietnamese, english with the help of google translate and she told me about her life in vietnam, her family etc. A very sweet girl.
We headed to bed, where we had sex. But I feel like it was a very bad time for her. But did her job very well.
9 am she wanted to leave, then she left leaving me her phone numbers.
Two days later, I went back to Manhattan where I only saw her friend, she was out with a customer. In the middle of the night she texted me to know if I wanted her to come over. But was very tired and agreed that she would come over the day after.
The day after that, she came over to my place and we talked a lot. She told me about unhappy she was to go to manhattan, and she was about to stop it. Anyways, we slept. And then in the morning when we woke up, I asked her if she had ever been to the top of the world financial tower in pudong, she said no and asked her if she wanted to go, and said yes and in a minute she was ready to go with a huge smile on her face. So here we go, heading to pudong. After seeeing the crazy view of shanghai from above, I told her that we could go to century park to do some boating and she was very happy to do that. Once there she bought me some cheap food, very sweet from her. She was holding my arm and kissing me all day long. After that she was very hungry, and decided to take her to a very nice place to have some food, once there, she looked at me like "what the fuck" and said I want "hamburger". Ok, no problem there is a mc Donald over there. Afterwards, she wanted to go back to my place, she took a nap while I Was working a bit and then I joined her in bed, where she gave me a great sex for free. She had to go back to her room, and she sent me messages all night long.
Two days later, she came back to my place and I told her not to go back to manhattan anymore if she didn't like it but said she needed it to reimburse her plane ticket and to give some money to her family.
The next day, I asked her if she wanted to come to my place for the next two weeks before she leaves to vietnam and she said to me she needed 6000 yuans to go back, and as I really didn't want her to go back to manhattan, I promised that I would give her 6000yuan just the day before her flight. 7m pm, she's in the lobby of my building with all her stuffs, ready to settle with me.
The story is really starting here.
During two weeks, she cooked for me, cleaned my apartment, she did everything for me. We spent our days, cuddling, having sex. 4,5 times a day, I've never been so tired and some day I even asked her not to have sex.
After two days, at my place, while having sex, she took the condom off and looked at me in the eyes, and said I love you, I want to feel you.
Every day, during two weeks, she woke me up at 3 am. 6 am to have sex. She just had 1 boyfriend before me and two customers at manahttan and I feel like she's discovering sex, she 's understanding that she can enjoy having sex. I gave her her first oral orgasm and now she want it everyday, three times a day.
We went out a lot, she met my friends here, we spent everyday together. Was a crazy good time, like I 've never had before.
The story is not over.
What is crazy about this story is that I am actually writing this report from Ho Chi Minh city (vietnam) where I have been for more than a week now. I met her brother, sister, friend, I went to her village by the sea where her mom and dad sell fish. I discovered her life, and I must say I was not expected that at all!
I still can't believe where she comes from, so much poverty but so much happiness, she smiles all the time and seems very happy to be back home.
We've been travelling around together using her motorbike, she paid everything, hotel, food, bus, gas!
I 'll be back to shanghai the 6th and she should be back there tooo, a few days later and sorry guys, she's not going back to manhattan for sure.
End of the story for now! [/QUOTE]Wow mate what can I say. That's quite amazing. Thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1151836]That is an unusual story that I am going to tell you today. Some might judge me, some might find it interesting. Whatever.
Hmmm. A new "Starter Husband" in the making
[QUOTE=Bxbxbx; 1151810]Regarding the Massage place referenced in the title, sadly I can not confirm the same experience. I was very near by last night, so I decided to stop in and check this place out. Based on Thekraz's review, I was very interested. My experience is below.
The pro:
- Cute, young massage girl.
- Intense massage. She was walking on my back, which I really enjoy.
- Cheap massage (RMB 208 for 70 min)
- Massage girl was very comfortable with anal play, massaging my balls, having her tits sucked on and having her body massaged / groped as well.
The con:
- It's built next to (or underneath) a local KTV. So, so annoying. Even my girl said they are totally annoying.
- My girl would take RMB100 for HJ, but for the extra RMB100 she said she'd only lift her shirt. She showed me there was no lock on the door, and felt uncomfortable. Absolutely no nudity.
- Even when I asked for her to slow down, she wouldn't.
- The showers are disgusting.
I hope this was a rare occurrence, and maybe Thekraz can tell us the name of who he saw before so that other board users can repeat his good fortune?
Anyone else have an experience / report after Thekraz mentioned this place? [/QUOTE]Regarding the showers. Considering some of the places I have been I thought they were actually quite respectable. Says a lot for my mongering!
I have been going quite regularly and each visit the services offered increases each time. So I think it has more to do with them being comfortable with the customer (not so forthcoming with a non regular)
I also tend to visit around lunchtime. So maybe they are not so busy and under less scrutiny. Certainly the person manning the reception desk has to be encouraged to activity and certainly looks unlikely to conduct "inspections"
As for the KTV. Never noticed it or even heard it whenever I have been.
Is G18 open again?
[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1152060]Regarding the showers. Considering some of the places I have been I thought they were actually quite respectable. Says a lot for my mongering!
Note: I'm a newbie when it comes to mongering or massage services.
I have been going quite regularly and each visit the services offered increases each time. So I think it has more to do with them being comfortable with the customer (not so forthcoming with a non regular)
I also tend to visit around lunchtime. So maybe they are not so busy and under less scrutiny. Certainly the person manning the reception desk has to be encouraged to activity and certainly looks unlikely to conduct "inspections"
As for the KTV. Never noticed it or even heard it whenever I have been.[/QUOTE]I went there to give it a try today at 5:30pm. It seems to me the manager is not the kind of person that would care about 'additional services' being offered at her place. I picked the oil massage for 208 and got a girl from Jiangsu province that has been in Shanghai for a year. She has a good body but the face is so-so. The dress was ok, miniskirt and t-shirt.
On the subject of the shower, it was smelly, but apart from that it was actually quite nice. One important bit is that the place is infested with rats, I even saw one when the girl was doing the massage.
She asks me whether it's my first time in that massage place and I said yes. We talked while she massages me.
After a while, she starts rubbing my things and touching my xiao didi, so I thought that was the part in which she was going to ask me for money to continue. But she didn't, she just continued without asking, and she was actually quite skilled and determined at it. So this was actually a pleasant surprise. Just touched her legs, but it seems she wouldn't mind if I touched other parts. Don't know about DFK or 69s.
So at the end I just paid 208 RMB and got her phone number. She says she's number 9.
-Rastalo.
Went to Sacrosa tonight at about10pm. Had a6 girl lineup. Picked 257. Tallish girl from Dongbei. Notvery chatty at first but slowly warmed up. Had about C boobs. Tattoo at the pubic region. Pretty enthusiastic about the catbath. Spent a long time at it. Flipped me over for the reaming. Applied some lube around my jewels. Very nice. Then the front. Blowjob was not too bad. Also the lube. Then the deed. The mandatory moaning and I finished. Chatted with her the remaining time while she gaveme a leg massage.
She said that it was the boss' standard that they cannot call in early after the deed is over. So the customer must stay in the room for the entire period.
Well, I like it. Slightly rundown compared to HEting. The girl said that Sacrosa was last renovated 9 years ago. Says the locals prefer to go in the early evening. Weekends are quieter.
Enjoy guys. Be safe.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1151836]That is an unusual story that I am going to tell you today. Some might judge me,[/QUOTE]Yes, some might judge you, some have already.
Good Luck to you. I won't reiterate the usual comments about.
Viet girls, I am sure you already know, or can research here or other places.
Just go in with your eyes open.
Went to Sacrosa last night around 7pm. It was a bit tricky to find, but the security guards in the elevator saw my white face and figured what I was there for, and kindly told me where to go.
After the shower and the waiting room, I was presented with quite an impressive lineup. If my memory serves me correctly, there were 9 or 10 girls to choose from. The one I went with (#272) was busy with short hair. Two things I particularly like. She's a 20 year old from Chengdu. The experience was excellent. The girl was talented, motivated, and a total sweetheart before and after the deed. She did everything I expected based on what I've read on this forum. I'll be heading back tonight with a friend so he can experience this awesomeness!
[QUOTE=Fellow111;1152147]She said that it was the boss' standard that they cannot call in early after the deed is over. So the customer must stay in the room for the entire period.[/QUOTE]That brings back memories. I also tried to leave after the deed, but she pointed at the clock that I had to stay. I found it a little unnerving because I was half expecting vice to bust through the door. The girl spend the remaining time seemingly to fawn over me, saying "I love you". I guess that was the only english phrase she knew. I remember staring at the ceiling a lot because I spoke no mandarin. That was my first and only experience at Sacrosa.
I would go back.
[quote=poopbunny; 1152339]that brings back memories. i also tried to leave after the deed, but she pointed at the clock that i had to stay. i found it a little unnerving because i was half expecting vice to bust through the door. the girl spend the remaining time seemingly to fawn over me, saying "i love you". i guess that was the only english phrase she knew. i remember staring at the ceiling a lot because i spoke no mandarin. that was my first and only experience at sacrosa.
i would go back. [/quote]happens in many saunas. often the girl picks up the phone to terminate the session and hands over the phone to you so you can confirm all ok with you.
a bit of bs as you don't want to start a quality report from a sauna room. especially when they can hardly understand english. but probably they know that customer satisfaction is a priority. so all you do is day "all ok all ok"
and if you were nit happy just cancel the girl or the venue from your agenda.
happens in macau too.
[QUOTE=NY Mike; 1152182]Yes, some might judge you, some have already.
Good Luck to you. I won't reiterate the usual comments about.
Viet girls, I am sure you already know, or can research here or other places.
Just go in with your eyes open.[/QUOTE]Tell me more about viet girls? Thanks
[quote=poopbunny; 1152339]that brings back memories. i also tried to leave after the deed, but she pointed at the clock that i had to stay. i found it a little unnerving because i was half expecting vice to bust through the door. the girl spend the remaining time seemingly to fawn over me, saying "i love you". i guess that was the only english phrase she knew. i remember staring at the ceiling a lot because i spoke no mandarin. that was my first and only experience at sacrosa.
i would go back. [/quote]the reason why they don't let you go is because the girl would get a penalty of 100 rmb if a customer leaves before the session expires. i spoke to many of the girls and they all say it's the rule of most of sauna.
[QUOTE=ShinichiOta;1152312]Went to Sacrosa last night around 7pm. After the shower and the waiting room, I was presented with quite an impressive lineup. If my memory serves me correctly, there were 9 or 10 girls to choose from.[/QUOTE]Went to Sacrosa this week and the lineup was only three ladies, each not very attractive but I did not want to wait further and went for nr 291. My question is how large can the lineup be since the girls stand directly in front of you (kind of strange feeling) and the selection area is more like a narrow corridor with not enough room for 10-plus girls I guess. I have read about massive lineups at other places (Bodi eg) but can not imagine this to be the case with Sacrosa, unless there are more areas where the lineups are held.
[QUOTE=G Haribo;1152463]The reason why they don't let you go is because the girl would get a penalty of 100 RMB if a customer leaves before the session expires. I spoke to many of the girls and they all say it's the rule of most of Sauna.[/QUOTE]The girl said that the boss did not want the girls to be lazy and take short cuts.
I went today again. Had 209. Boobs are smaller about a B and again from Dongbei. Had the toe fuck. Did the did and I dosed off. She also dosed off. Butit was enjoyable. No DFK as well.
I also went to this MP on ChangyiRd, behind Eton Hotel in Pudong South Road. There's no real englishname. But the address is 533 Changyi Road, its the second MP away from the junction and bakery. Went around 12midnight. There are a few MP on that stretch plus many bars with girls hanging out.
I know it is expensive but went forit. I knew they are not legit. Girls are dressed in black uniforms, like bank clerks. Settled for a 280 package but it ended up 300. I was tired and didn't argue although at onepoint the girl mentioned 400. Settled on an oil massage. She told me to strip and take a shower whilst she stepped out of theroom. I finished and she came in whilst Iam still drying myself. Then I put onmy shorts, but she told me to strip it off after I laid down. SHe began the massage. Slowly, the hands strayed to my ass cheeks and brushed lightly on the asshole. Applying of oil also went across the assshole. The massage slowly went on and then she will knee the back andin the process straddle the back with the thighs brushing the asshole and balls.
Then she sat between the legs and did a asshole massage with oil, justlike rimming but with the fingers. She asked if it was comnfortable and I said yes.
Then she flipped me around and bruushed my nipples and asked ifI wanted them licked and said that it willcost me. SHe said that usually, it will end with a HJfor a tip. But she can give a blow job for 500rmb plus 400 for the house. I told her that I could get FS for 580and she didn't believe me. As it was late, I told her 400 and 300 for the house. SHe agreed. Don't flame me, I know it was expensive but I wanted one more go tonight.
So I had BBBJ CIM. I was happy. But its too expensive. One for the team maybe.
Have fun. Will seize mongering for a while. My apologies for the rambling and my sticky keypad.
Be safe.
[QUOTE=G Haribo;1152463]The reason why they don't let you go is because the girl would get a penalty of 100 RMB if a customer leaves before the session expires. I spoke to many of the girls and they all say it's the rule of most of Sauna.[/QUOTE]Right so, but this at the end does not change the fact that instead of lettig you check out and do "short" you just spend the time in the rioni not doing much. Happened to' me. Mot that I cares much either way, but if one is happy and voluntarily wants to' leave before the allotted time he should be free to do so.
Some help from regulars at Manhattan please. Friend of mine told me about a Chinese WG at Manhattan he reccomended I have not been able to find. Long black hair, from Anhui, thin, sometimes wears a hat. No English. Name is Candy or Candice, something like that. Sometimes at Malones too. Anybody know her?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Garibaldi;1152556]Long black hair, from Anhui, thin[/QUOTE]Doesn't this describe half the female population in Shanghai? Sorry, couldn't resist.
But seriously, there are not many Chinese WGs in Manhattan. But without more to go on, I don't think you'll have much luck finding this particular person. But Shanghai is a big place. I'm sure you can find someone else. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1152750]Doesn't this describe half the female population in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]It does. ShangHai has more Anhui ladies (immigrant workers) then original ShangHai-nese.
Going to the places and asking around to the other girls would be the best way to start. Most girls that are in "the business" know eachother.
Long time reader, and first post. To begin with, I want to thank everyone for all the useful information and resulting happy times! I hope I can begin to return the favor.
I should probably give some background about myself, so there's a point of reference. Overseas born Chinese. 30's, English is my first language, and my Mandarin is enough to get me around. Have lived in Asia for 10+ years, so I've pretty much seen it all when it comes to these sorts of things.
The other night, I was wandering around after dinner, in the mood for a massage (with possible happy ending). I stumbled upon a place called Lisboa Health Spa (for anyone that's been to Macau, how can that name not pique your interest?). It's part of the Brawway Hotel on the corner of Gubei Road. And Maotai Road. There is a separate shop entrance on Maotai Road.. Big green sign that's hard to miss. It looks like a nail salon, but just go upstairs.
It's 288rmb for a 90 min 'VIP' oil massage. The reception and wait staff were very friendly and attentive. They spoke some English and the menu was in English. The rooms were surprisingly nice. Fairly new and really clean, with shower in room, and all amenities, like tooth brush, face wash, shave gel and razor, etc. They offer you a free beverage of your choice. Pretty relaxing atmosphere.
Girl comes in, and she's relatively cute for a massage girl (7/10). She's wearing a short black skirt, white blouse, and black blazer, so kinda classy. Not like those super grungy places where they wear worn out polo shirts and jeans, or cheap track suits.
I shower, towel off, and get those terrible paper thin disposable shorts on. She starts the back massage and it's not bad, and we're chatting the whole time, and it's going relatively well. Pulls down my shorts to my knees and starts with the ass massage. Shorts back up, then onto my back where the massage part basically ends and now she's just rubbing my chest and teasing me trying to get me turned on.
I should mention that I'm not normally one that likes to go for hand relief unless the masseuse's skill seems exceptional, as I figure, why pay when I can just do it myself? Some of you have posted before about enjoying the challenge of trying to get a normal massage girl to do more than just the usual handy, and I can fully appreciate where you're coming from (sorry, no pun intended). She proposes 200rmb tip for a happy ending. As our rapport was pretty good so far, and she was pretty cute with a great ass (I am an ass guy) , I venture to ask if she'll do more.
Ok, here's where it all starts going downhill. She says 2000rmb. I laughed. I said not to worry about it then, just finish with the massage, with no extras. I wanted to avoid her trying to haggle, so I said I didn't have much cash with me anyway (which was true).288rmb for the massage only left me with about 250rmb extra in my wallet. She didn't believe me, so she wanted to see my wallet. And here's when I got annoyed. I really only had that much, so I showed her, and she takes the money out and counts it! She thinks for a minute and counters with 550rmb tip (she suggests I charge the 288rmb on my card) for her to get naked, give me a BJ, and I could DATY, but nothing more. I'm doing the math. 550 + 288, well, I may as well just go to a sauna for that price and get the full meal deal, so I politely declined.
Now I'm just trying to kill some time off the clock, so I suggest I give her a bit of a massage (and so I could play with that nice ass). So I'm massaging and squeezing that ass like there's no tomorrow, when out comes a 'pffft'. WTF, she just farted! She laughed, and I did too kinda, but way to kill the mood if you're really trying to convince me to get the extra. 'pffft'. What! Again. Um, anyhow.
She keeps trying to persuade me, and I keep saying no thanks, I'm fine. Time's almost up, so I'm like, look I got to go, so I get up and start getting changed. She continues to try and convince me, and when she finally realizes I'm not going for it, (what gave it away, the fact that I was fully dressed by now?) asks me for a tip. I'm like, fine, here's 50, and she's insulted. I'm thinking I didn't get anything extra, so do I really need to tip that much? And then she starts going into this sob story about how she gets zero out of the 288rmb and she only makes tips, and guys never go there just for a massage. I ended up giving her 100rmb just to shut her up, and she has the audacity to ask, how about the small bills in your wallet too? I roll my eyes and am like WTF and walk out (I did happen to see another cutie as I was leaving though. Haha).
Bottom line, if you want an ok massage with a happy ending, in a nice environment with above average looking girls, then this is a place worth checking out.
My question though is, is it true what she said about the house getting all 288rmb?
Hi all.
I will be staying at the Langham Yangtze boutique hotel on Hankou road.
Any suggestions for Massage Parlours nearby?
Not really fussed about big extras, just a good massage and tug is good enough for me.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Laowei137; 1152812]It does. ShangHai has more Anhui ladies (immigrant workers) then original ShangHai-nese.
Going to the places and asking around to the other girls would be the best way to start. Most girls that are in "the business" know eachother.[/QUOTE]I guessed since very few Chinese WG in Manhattan, a regular there might know her. For what it is worth, she uses an electronic dictionary to translate and sometimes gives her namecard with a photo of her in a cowboy hat.
[QUOTE=Member #2453;1152080]Is G18 open again?[/QUOTE]Was by 2 weeks ago. Still closed.
[QUOTE=RandyMarsh;1152848]My question though is, is it true what she said about the house getting all 288rmb?[/QUOTE]
House takes about 75 percent, So that leaves her (in this case) with 72 rmb. Usually the girls get a bonus of around 50 rmb for a repeat customer. So if you return and specifically ask for her she gets another 50 on top of the 72. The girls also get a bonus for upgrading your chosen package and can get bonusses for various extra services to the house: for example training other girls.
[QUOTE=Garibaldi;1152891]I guessed since very few Chinese WG in Manhattan, a regular there might know her. For what it is worth, she uses an electronic dictionary to translate and sometimes gives her namecard with a photo of her in a cowboy hat.[/QUOTE]Garibaldi, if you know she has a name card, just call or text her. I had a great night with her two months ago. I think she looks better than the photo on the card.
Hey Golly, Is this maybe the WG I have been looking for named Candice? She usually has a small hat and wears a jade pendant around her neck? Nice cleavage and knows how to show it off. Have you seen her in Manhattan since or Malone's? Thanks.
Last night at Manhattan's was all about multi-tasking. Perhaps the sight of me with my two hot friends fawning over me attracted some attention. I don't really see how considering how crazy it is at Manhattans but it did. One girl far off at the right end of the bar was enjoying watching me enjoy myself. She seemed pretty hot and kept giving me a smile and a few thumbs up every now and then. She kept switching from wearing glasses to not. Interesting. Later when I finally left for Judy's I had to say goodbye to this observer girl. For the life of me I don't remember her name, I don't even remember if I asked but I did say goodbye and hoped to see her next time. I think.
Yet another girl wandered up while I was with my two new friends. The funny thing is that this new girl had met me before when I first came to Manhattans. She's from Anui, speaks pretty decent english, decent looking but not super hot. She was wearing a small beret like hat (I don't really remember but somehow this is the image that's in my head). The first time I met her she was quite aggressive, putting my hand on her stomach and making sure I saw her cleavage. The first time I met her she went straight to the question after talking for a few minutes. I told her then that I couldn't take her home. She countered with,"you can come to my place, it's near by". Interesting. Now, last night, she comes up to me all affectionate but claims she doesn't remember me from the other night. She doesn't remember that I ultimately turned her down. She doesn't remember that she then asked me for 100RMB for her time which I refused politely. OK. So, last night she remembers none of this. I tell her I'm with my "friends" and that I'm meeting another later at Judy's. So, she gives me her phone number. LOL. So, now I have two hot Vietnamese girls' numbers and a pretty decent Chinese girls' with a bad short-term memory. LOL. What's even funnier is that this Chinese girl sends me a text message from the other side of the bar: "wo ai ni". I tease her back with "wo ye ai ni". That sent her running to me. So funny.
G. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lucky21;1153100]Garibaldi, if you know she has a name card, just call or text her. I had a great night with her two months ago. I think she looks better than the photo on the card.[/QUOTE]Lucky, Thanks man. Problem is I don't have her card and my friend who told me about her is out of touch. Have you seen her again there? Can you somehow to get me the contact? I am new to the forum and have not signed for msg service yet. Is that the way? Thanks.
I had to go to the states for a week and got back late Sunday night. I should be sleeping right now, but jet lagged. First. Wow we have it great here. The WG situation in the states is lame and expensive. Second thing. Manhattan really delivers for the late night viet munchies. Her name was Ling and the bill was 700. Excellent girl. BBBJ, DATY, mish, doggy, more mish, more doggy.
Question. Where to acquire a hidden camera? In the states we have "spy shops" that basically sell cameras hidden in all sorts of random stuff.
[QUOTE=Laowei137;1153081]House takes about 75 percent, So that leaves her (in this case) with 72 rmb. Usually the girls get a bonus of around 50 rmb for a repeat customer. So if you return and specifically ask for her she gets another 50 on top of the 72. The girls also get a bonus for upgrading your chosen package and can get bonusses for various extra services to the house: for example training other girls.[/QUOTE]Also my experience at several MP's in Pudong, girl gets 30 percent, returning customers, or customers asking for specific girls are highly valued as the girl retains her place on the rota. Tips are always for the girl.
Fz
Anyone here actually able to answer my curiosity about the HOT girls standing in club soho every day? It's on 4 Hengshan Lu.
Am I allowed to post a link here?
[url]http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/listings/nightlife/nightclub/has/soho-music-restaurant-bar/[/url]
It is 600rmb for open bar on weekday nights. I didn't go there with the intention of picking up a girl, this place is a 'normal' trendy night club where 99% of you fat or old guys wouldn't even dare walk inside. It is not in my opinion a place where mongerer's go. No offence, but I doubt any of you have been there unfortunately.
But I can tell you it is full of 20 to 30 hot girls just standing at the back all night long. No-one is talking to them, they are not talking to each other either. The just stand there all night long. The music is also too loud to have any kind of semblance of a conversation inside.
Therefore I'm hoping some of you experienced guys can give me a heads up on what the dealio is with the girls there. What is a respectable price to take one home for an hour? In my opinion the girls are 'to die for'.
Yes, this post isn't that friendly but it really doesn't matter, I'm searching for info and if you experienced guys can tell me what price to expect, I might just do it then post a report. This place is in my opinion a gem in the rough.
Not been there, but a lot of bars and clubs use hotties to attract people.
These girls are most likely paid be part of the decoration.
They may also be available to sit with you for a fee, but I seriously doubt you can take them home for free or at all.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1153472]Anyone here actually able to answer my curiosity about the HOT girls standing in club soho every day? It's on 4 Hengshan Lu.
Am I allowed to post a link here?
[url]http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/listings/nightlife/nightclub/has/soho-music-restaurant-bar/[/url]
It is 600rmb for open bar on weekday nights. I didn't go there with the intention of picking up a girl, this place is a 'normal' trendy night club where 99% of you fat or old guys wouldn't even dare walk inside. It is not in my opinion a place where mongerer's go. No offence, but I doubt any of you have been there unfortunately.
But I can tell you it is full of 20 to 30 hot girls just standing at the back all night long. No-one is talking to them, they are not talking to each other either. The just stand there all night long. The music is also too loud to have any kind of semblance of a conversation inside.
Therefore I'm hoping some of you experienced guys can give me a heads up on what the dealio is with the girls there. What is a respectable price to take one home for an hour? In my opinion the girls are 'to die for'.
Yes, this post isn't that friendly but it really doesn't matter, I'm searching for info and if you experienced guys can tell me what price to expect, I might just do it then post a report. This place is in my opinion a gem in the rough. [/QUOTE]
Each place is different, but she likely does get something from the 288 base price. It also depends on the place and location, but many of the VIP massages at this price include a happy ending.
Anything else you give her on top of that is likely for her to keep. Most girls have a sob story, whether true or not. Some really are hard on their luck and really do need to make money for their family back in the village, and many are just smart enough to have figured out how to manipulate customers for more money.
For the most part unless it is clear, you are with someone who knows, or you know the mommy well, it is best to ask what is included in the services and the total cost involved. It is best to be firm with these girls or you will just end up with a really expensive and lame HJ.
For those who don't know, see the glossary, but you can asked to be sure if "the fei ji" or shoot the airplane is included.
I agree that once the price starts climbing out of control, you are way better off going to a sauna.
[QUOTE=RandyMarsh; 1152848]Long time reader, and first post. To begin with, I want to thank everyone for all the useful information and resulting happy times! I hope I can begin to return the favor.
I should probably give some background about myself, so there's a point of reference. Overseas born Chinese. 30's, English is my first language, and my Mandarin is enough to get me around. Have lived in Asia for 10+ years, so I've pretty much seen it all when it comes to these sorts of things.
The other night, I was wandering around after dinner, in the mood for a massage (with possible happy ending). I stumbled upon a place called Lisboa Health Spa (for anyone that's been to Macau, how can that name not pique your interest?). It's part of the Brawway Hotel on the corner of Gubei Road. And Maotai Road. There is a separate shop entrance on Maotai Road. Big green sign that's hard to miss. It looks like a nail salon, but just go upstairs.
It's 288rmb for a 90 min 'VIP' oil massage. The reception and wait staff were very friendly and attentive. They spoke some English and the menu was in English. The rooms were surprisingly nice. Fairly new and really clean, with shower in room, and all amenities, like tooth brush, face wash, shave gel and razor, etc. They offer you a free beverage of your choice. Pretty relaxing atmosphere.
Girl comes in, and she's relatively cute for a massage girl (7/10). She's wearing a short black skirt, white blouse, and black blazer, so kinda classy. Not like those super grungy places where they wear worn out polo shirts and jeans, or cheap track suits.
I shower, towel off, and get those terrible paper thin disposable shorts on. She starts the back massage and it's not bad, and we're chatting the whole time, and it's going relatively well. Pulls down my shorts to my knees and starts with the ass massage. Shorts back up, then onto my back where the massage part basically ends and now she's just rubbing my chest and teasing me trying to get me turned on.
I should mention that I'm not normally one that likes to go for hand relief unless the masseuse's skill seems exceptional, as I figure, why pay when I can just do it myself? Some of you have posted before about enjoying the challenge of trying to get a normal massage girl to do more than just the usual handy, and I can fully appreciate where you're coming from (sorry, no pun intended). She proposes 200rmb tip for a happy ending. As our rapport was pretty good so far, and she was pretty cute with a great ass (I am an ass guy) , I venture to ask if she'll do more.
Ok, here's where it all starts going downhill. She says 2000rmb. I laughed. I said not to worry about it then, just finish with the massage, with no extras. I wanted to avoid her trying to haggle, so I said I didn't have much cash with me anyway (which was true).288rmb for the massage only left me with about 250rmb extra in my wallet. She didn't believe me, so she wanted to see my wallet. And here's when I got annoyed. I really only had that much, so I showed her, and she takes the money out and counts it! She thinks for a minute and counters with 550rmb tip (she suggests I charge the 288rmb on my card) for her to get naked, give me a BJ, and I could DATY, but nothing more. I'm doing the math. 550 + 288, well, I may as well just go to a sauna for that price and get the full meal deal, so I politely declined.
Now I'm just trying to kill some time off the clock, so I suggest I give her a bit of a massage (and so I could play with that nice ass). So I'm massaging and squeezing that ass like there's no tomorrow, when out comes a 'pffft'. WTF, she just farted! She laughed, and I did too kinda, but way to kill the mood if you're really trying to convince me to get the extra. 'pffft'. What! Again. Um, anyhow.
She keeps trying to persuade me, and I keep saying no thanks, I'm fine. Time's almost up, so I'm like, look I got to go, so I get up and start getting changed. She continues to try and convince me, and when she finally realizes I'm not going for it, (what gave it away, the fact that I was fully dressed by now?) asks me for a tip. I'm like, fine, here's 50, and she's insulted. I'm thinking I didn't get anything extra, so do I really need to tip that much? And then she starts going into this sob story about how she gets zero out of the 288rmb and she only makes tips, and guys never go there just for a massage. I ended up giving her 100rmb just to shut her up, and she has the audacity to ask, how about the small bills in your wallet too? I roll my eyes and am like WTF and walk out (I did happen to see another cutie as I was leaving though. Haha).
Bottom line, if you want an ok massage with a happy ending, in a nice environment with above average looking girls, then this is a place worth checking out.
My question though is, is it true what she said about the house getting all 288rmb? [/QUOTE]
I think it is time to give it up on G18.
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1153072]Was by 2 weeks ago. Still closed.[/QUOTE]
Yes, some saunas want the girls to fill the whole allotment of time to ensure she doesn't shortchange you and just get you off asap. The sauna business is very competitive and management wants to ensure decent levels of service to attract repeat business. There is a lot of investment that goes into a decent sauna.
BTW, if you are a regular customer, and the mommy knows you, you can certainly leave early without any problem. Sometimes, the girl is required to call the manager from the room after your session and put the customer on the phone to ask if everything is ok.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1152493]Right so, but this at the end does not change the fact that instead of lettig you check out and do "short" you just spend the time in the rioni not doing much. Happened to' me. Mot that I cares much either way, but if one is happy and voluntarily wants to' leave before the allotted time he should be free to do so.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1153072]Was by 2 weeks ago. Still closed.[/QUOTE]To Member 2453
I don't what is so good about G18 there are so many other sauna in Shanghai, all this place come and go as crack down happen here, just give it up and go to other place Henting and Hailong is my favorite today.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1153472]I didn't go there with the intention of picking up a girl, this place is a 'normal' trendy night club where 99% of you fat or old guys wouldn't even dare walk inside. It is not in my opinion a place where mongerer's go. No offence, but I doubt any of you have been there unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Just a tip, but if you don't want to offend someone, you probably shouldn't call him fat and / or old.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1153472]Anyone here actually able to answer my curiosity about the HOT girls standing in club soho every day? It's on 4 Hengshan Lu.
Am I allowed to post a link here?
[url]http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/listings/nightlife/nightclub/has/soho-music-restaurant-bar/[/url]
It is 600rmb for open bar on weekday nights. I didn't go there with the intention of picking up a girl, this place is a 'normal' trendy night club where 99% of you fat or old guys wouldn't even dare walk inside. It is not in my opinion a place where mongerer's go. No offence, but I doubt any of you have been there unfortunately.
But I can tell you it is full of 20 to 30 hot girls just standing at the back all night long. No-one is talking to them, they are not talking to each other either. The just stand there all night long. The music is also too loud to have any kind of semblance of a conversation inside.
Therefore I'm hoping some of you experienced guys can give me a heads up on what the dealio is with the girls there. What is a respectable price to take one home for an hour? In my opinion the girls are 'to die for'.
Yes, this post isn't that friendly but it really doesn't matter, I'm searching for info and if you experienced guys can tell me what price to expect, I might just do it then post a report. This place is in my opinion a gem in the rough. [/QUOTE]I am not sure about this club, but I do know that some "hot" clubs in Chengdu hire girls as "decorations" to give the club the appearance that is is "happening" whether it is true or not. I am sure the same thing goes on in Shanghai, heck that may be where they got the idea, since a couple of Shanghai clubs have "sister" clubs in Chengdu.
I have never really tried to pick up one of these gals for a number of reasons beginning with every guy on the planet has tried to get into their knickers and I don't have the language skills to make even a feeble attempt. On occasion though they seemed intrigued by my "lowai" status and have danced and laughed and tried to get me to buy another bottle which I decline.
I will say this though, they don't hire dogs for this job and as strictly eye candy. It works!
You guys seem pretty lucky. I went to this place around 11pm two weeks. I got a middle-age woman and I couldn't change because she was the only available.
The massage itself was very poor, I'm not going to blame her, she seemed really tired, those girls work for hours and are often asked to overwork (as she told me).
She gave me a HE, also nothing to get excited about. The good thing is that I didn't paid for it, and I wasn't in the mood to see her breast so I didn't pay extra. It might be one of the cheapest massage+HE I got here but it came as a real disappointment.
If you guys happen to know some cuties number so that we can ask for them directly when you go there, please let us know.
[QUOTE=Bxbxbx; 1151810]Regarding the Massage place referenced in the title, sadly I can not confirm the same experience. I was very near by last night, so I decided to stop in and check this place out. Based on Thekraz's review, I was very interested. My experience is below.
The pro:
- Cute, young massage girl.
- Intense massage. She was walking on my back, which I really enjoy.
- Cheap massage (RMB 208 for 70 min)
- Massage girl was very comfortable with anal play, massaging my balls, having her tits sucked on and having her body massaged / groped as well.
The con:
- It's built next to (or underneath) a local KTV. So, so annoying. Even my girl said they are totally annoying.
- My girl would take RMB100 for HJ, but for the extra RMB100 she said she'd only lift her shirt. She showed me there was no lock on the door, and felt uncomfortable. Absolutely no nudity.
- Even when I asked for her to slow down, she wouldn't.
- The showers are disgusting.
I hope this was a rare occurrence, and maybe Thekraz can tell us the name of who he saw before so that other board users can repeat his good fortune?
Anyone else have an experience / report after Thekraz mentioned this place?[/QUOTE]
Those girls are there to sit, play games and drink with you. Your expected to tip them when you want to leave. You can negotiate to take them out but don't know current costs.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1153702]I am not sure about this club, but I do know that some "hot" clubs in Chengdu hire girls as "decorations" to give the club the appearance that is is "happening" whether it is true or not. I am sure the same thing goes on in Shanghai, heck that may be where they got the idea, since a couple of Shanghai clubs have "sister" clubs in Chengdu.
I have never really tried to pick up one of these gals for a number of reasons beginning with every guy on the planet has tried to get into their knickers and I don't have the language skills to make even a feeble attempt. On occasion though they seemed intrigued by my "lowai" status and have danced and laughed and tried to get me to buy another bottle which I decline.
I will say this though, they don't hire dogs for this job and as strictly eye candy. It works! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ShinichiOta;1151566]I'm staying in Shanghai this week in Pudong, and swarming outside my hotel every night are a bunch of men and women offering to take me to the "Ladies Sauna", with 300 RMB FS. I assume this is a scam, but if by some miracle it isn't, and someone knows the real deal about this, I'd greatly appreciate any information![/QUOTE]Anyone who goes with a tout is a fool!. No matter what they say or what price they advertise, they can't be trusted. This has been said on this forum pretty much FOREVER.
The chances of getting set up is very high, and nearly impossible to figure out if you are being set up before it is too late. You risk physical harm if you don't empty your wallet. Some people on this forum have even reported being strong armed into pulling money out of an ATM.
This goes for the Tea House Scam, the Buy me a beer Scam, the Sauna Scam, the Hottie for the too good to be true price Scam, the I am Learning English will you practice with me Scam, the I am an Art Student come see my artwork Scam, etc. You name it, it has been used as a line to draw you to a place where thugs will threaten to beat the living crap out of you. It simply isn't worth the risk. There are way too many safe options for pros not to mention freebies, to bother with the risk of a tout.
If you don't heed this advice, I hate to say it but you deserve what you get.
MAB
Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!
M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?
Fz
[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1153838]Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!
M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?
Fz[/QUOTE]Most likely there were other two hidden somewhere, coming out pretending to be officers and you were about to buy important military items. You can well imagine the rest of the script
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee; 1153758]Anyone who goes with a tout is a fool. No matter what they say or what price they advertise, they can't be trusted. This has been said on this forum pretty much FOREVER.
If you don't heed this advice, I hate to say it but you deserve what you get.
MAB[/QUOTE]AMEN!
Levitian
[QUOTE=G Haribo; 1150918]Here are my my reports about the New Waves and Sacrosa sauna I visited recently.
Sacrosa.
When I arrived, I asked for my favorite #298, but apparently she left already, so I asked for #267, who was available. #267 gives one of the best BBJ in the city. So for those who like BBJ, she's the one. There was no need to wait, and she took me straight to the room. Inside the room, she told me that next time, I have to tell her number first at the reception, so she can get an additional 50RMB for the session.
Well, as always, the session with her was enthusiastic, and the BBJ a heaven. I finished her 2 times and paid the bill satisfied.
Number #298.
Looks = 8.
Boobs = 9 (but silicon)
FS = 7.
BBJ = 10.
DFK = 7.
GF = 8
Overall = 8.
New Wave.
I went there on 30 April and 1st May in the afternoon. Not much customers, so much more choice.
First day, I chose #939 from Dongbei. A pretty face, with pretty body, only the boobs were a bit small. Here's the result:
Number #939 (from Dongbei)
Looks = 8.
Boobs = 6.
FS = 7.
BBJ = 7.
DFK = Not allowed.
GF = 7 (a bit mechanical)
Overall = 7.
Feeling horny, I decided to go again on the 2nd day. This time, the choice was even bigger. I chose #982 from Hunan. I asked her the reason why there are not many customers, she replied that all guys are spending time with their family. Hehehe.
The session was good, but a bit mechanical. No kissing unfortunately.
Number #982 (from Hunan)
Looks = 7.
Boobs = 6.
FS = 7.
BBJ = 7.
DFK = Not allowed.
GF = 7 (a bit mechanical)
Overall = 7.
She had a scare on her belly, and this kind of calm me down, as I don't really like doing it with a girl who is a mother.
Overally, I still prefer my girl at Sacrosa, who is more girl friendly, but the choice is bigger at the New Wave.
Anyone to recommend? [/QUOTE]Is the heavenly BBBJ from #298 or #267? (You say one, but in the stats list the other)
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1154062]Is the heavenly BBBJ from #298 or #267? (You say one, but in the stats list the other)[/QUOTE]Sorry, it's 267 who give one of the best BBJ. 298 is not there anymore.
First, I want to thank all of your contributions to this Forum. I wish there were more guys like you posting on the Taiwan's forum.
I'm going to Shanghai end of this month and would like to try all things that Taiwan doesn't have.
Fishbowl, longtime, etc.
I'm only going to be there for 4 days and three nights. I'll be mostly available after regular working hours, I'm there for business.
For the fishbowl experience, which is better? Hai Lang? Sacrosa? 999? Golden 18? Bodi? All of your descriptions sound good. But which is most highly rated? Credit card accepted prefered with better facilities.
For longtime experience, do I have to go to Big Bamboo or Malones? Can I go to the saunas and take the girls back to my room? Do girls at the pink light areas do the same? BTW, where are the pink light areas? I know, RTFF, but I've been searching, can't get a clue.
Should I book a hotel in advance? Or should I just imrpovise as I get there? Which hotel is closest to these spots, recommended, and transportation is convenient?
Sorry if I ask too many questions at once. But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan.
When I go to Shanghai, which is where I am now.
Hotel: Donghu Hotel on Donghu Lu, just off Huaihai Lu. Walking distnace to restaurants, subway, and every cabbie knows where it is. Not a very luxurious place.
Saunas: Been to 999 and Sacrosa. 999 will accept credit cards is about 30rmb cab ride from the hotel. Sacrosa is accessible via subway. Most saunas are about the same. Same service model, about the same price. Just need to get lucky with your choice.
Bars: Never been to Malones or Manhattans. But I imagine they are just like Orchard Towers in Singapore.
Where in Taiwan are you?
[QUOTE=Chris Wang; 1154370]First, I want to thank all of your contributions to this Forum. I wish there were more guys like you posting on the Taiwan's forum.
I'm going to Shanghai end of this month and would like to try all things that Taiwan doesn't have.
Fishbowl, longtime, etc.
I'm only going to be there for 4 days and three nights. I'll be mostly available after regular working hours, I'm there for business.
For the fishbowl experience, which is better? Hai Lang? Sacrosa? 999? Golden 18? Bodi? All of your descriptions sound good. But which is most highly rated? Credit card accepted prefered with better facilities.
For longtime experience, do I have to go to Big Bamboo or Malones? Can I go to the saunas and take the girls back to my room? Do girls at the pink light areas do the same? BTW, where are the pink light areas? I know, RTFF, but I've been searching, can't get a clue.
Should I book a hotel in advance? Or should I just imrpovise as I get there? Which hotel is closest to these spots, recommended, and transportation is convenient?
Sorry if I ask too many questions at once. But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan. [/QUOTE]
Long term is Manhattan if you like pho or adobo.
999 is fish bowl, sacrosa is lineup like CP. I like both places but sacrosa has happy hour special, finish before 7 and it's less than 600 rmb.
There are a lot of bbs too, sometimes a fun way to play.
Shanghai is a great place. The bars and clubs are great places to hook up.
[QUOTE=Chris Wang; 1154370]First, I want to thank all of your contributions to this Forum. I wish there were more guys like you posting on the Taiwan's forum.
I'm going to Shanghai end of this month and would like to try all things that Taiwan doesn't have.
Fishbowl, longtime, etc.
I'm only going to be there for 4 days and three nights. I'll be mostly available after regular working hours, I'm there for business.
For the fishbowl experience, which is better? Hai Lang? Sacrosa? 999? Golden 18? Bodi? All of your descriptions sound good. But which is most highly rated? Credit card accepted prefered with better facilities.
For longtime experience, do I have to go to Big Bamboo or Malones? Can I go to the saunas and take the girls back to my room? Do girls at the pink light areas do the same? BTW, where are the pink light areas? I know, RTFF, but I've been searching, can't get a clue.
Should I book a hotel in advance? Or should I just imrpovise as I get there? Which hotel is closest to these spots, recommended, and transportation is convenient?
Sorry if I ask too many questions at once. But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Atapchee;1154565]Never been to Malones or Manhattans. But I imagine they are just like Orchard Towers in Singapore.[/QUOTE]Atapchee you are 100% correct with Manhattan being identical to Ipanema. Except in Manhattan you realy really only have Viets and Flips. Occasionally a Thai or 2 and a few Cambos.
IMHO Manhattan not a patch on Ipanema. Malones is just a shithole IMHO. Old hagged ho's. Ok for a drink. Band good there. But never seen a decent WG in there EVER.
[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1153838]Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!
M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?
Fz[/QUOTE]The military vehicles have white license plates. Govt officials or 'connected' people have black plates and everyone else has blue plates. Police cars are clearly marked. You can buy infrared and NVGs at the pearl markets and fake goods markets too.
That being said, you shouldn't let anyone try and get you to go with them unless you are absolutely certain its police and they show you valid I'd which rarely happens anyways.
Given all the scams going on, its not too difficult to imagine a new one where you get shaken down by people posing as military or govt officials.
In fact, it is almost impossible that anyone from military would stop a foreigner because its not their protocol.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Ixtlan; 1154617]The military vehicles have white license plates. Govt officials or 'connected' people have black plates and everyone else has blue plates. Police cars are clearly marked. You can buy infrared and NVGs at the pearl markets and fake goods markets too.
That being said, you shouldn't let anyone try and get you to go with them unless you are absolutely certain its police and they show you valid I'd which rarely happens anyways.
Given all the scams going on, its not too difficult to imagine a new one where you get shaken down by people posing as military or govt officials.
In fact, it is almost impossible that anyone from military would stop a foreigner because its not their protocol.
Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]I must confess, I didn't take these guys seriously, I assumed they were simply trying to sell cheap fake rubbish at a fancy price, (ever been offerred a "Cannon" camera outfit or "Nokio" phone!). The vehicle was definitely not an official vehicle, and they were also trying to talk to Chinese drivers. That said, there were four guys spending thier time on this, and using a seemingly brand new vehicle.
We are cautious of scams on foreigners, but we are not alone! In my experience Chinese people are very gullible, take a bus tour to anywhere to see the sales patter, be it tea, jade, or silk!
[QUOTE=Atapchee; 1154565]When I go to Shanghai, which is where I am now.
Hotel: Donghu Hotel on Donghu Lu, just off Huaihai Lu. Walking distnace to restaurants, subway, and every cabbie knows where it is. Not a very luxurious place.
Saunas: Been to 999 and Sacrosa. 999 will accept credit cards is about 30rmb cab ride from the hotel. Sacrosa is accessible via subway. Most saunas are about the same. Same service model, about the same price. Just need to get lucky with your choice.
Bars: Never been to Malones or Manhattans. But I imagine they are just like Orchard Towers in Singapore.
Where in Taiwan are you?[/QUOTE]I'm in Taichung, but I work in Chang-Hua. Central Taiwan is my crib.
I'll be going to the international convention center. I need to find a hotel that will allow me to go there and monger conveniently at the same time if possible. Any ideas?
Thank you in advance.
Chris Wang
Yesterday evening raid at Malones at about 23:30. All the Phil girls were taken out and have to show their passports. Also some guys sitting with girls had to fill in a kind of form.
[QUOTE=Chris Wang;1154370]But if you guys come to Taiwan, I'll hook you up. But if you are a regular in Shanghai, my suggestion would be stay in Shanghai. Taiwan just ain't as great, yet."fingers crossed" for the future of Taiwan.[/QUOTE]Hi Chris, I was trying to find out how to send you a private message, but I can't find any way. I'm a Taipeier who frequently travels to China. Thought we might be in Shanghai about the same time, and I sometimes am down south. Seems this is an unorthodox way to contact you. Maybe you can find a way to send me a PM?
I've heard that manhattan has been raided as well the past few days and some viet girls arrested.
Any infos about this?
[QUOTE=Baaadrabbit;1154821]Hi Chris, I was trying to find out how to send you a private message, but I can't find any way. I'm a Taipeier who frequently travels to China. Thought we might be in Shanghai about the same time, and I sometimes am down south. Seems this is an unorthodox way to contact you. Maybe you can find a way to send me a PM?[/QUOTE]You are a regular member. Unless you've paid for your membership, you won't be able to send or receive pm.
I'm there for the kitchen and bathroom exhibition going on there at the New expo center.
In the Gubei area, I tried Bi Li Hu sauna, per the recommendation of another member. It's is located one block from the intersectionon Hongbaoshi Road and Gubei Road. Next to it are a Subway sandwich shop and 7-11. During theday, the fee is 630rmb.
Standard sauna routine. It's only has beds in the room, no wet room. Service from 883 was good but had a lot of rules.
It's good offering if you are in the Hongqiao area but not really worth it if you have to trek out there.
[QUOTE=Chris Wang; 1154638]I'm in Taichung, but I work in Chang-Hua. Central Taiwan is my crib.
I'll be going to the international convention center. I need to find a hotel that will allow me to go there and monger conveniently at the same time if possible. Any ideas?
Thank you in advance.
Chris Wang[/QUOTE]That place sounds so far away from the fun.
There are a few saunas in the area, but all would require a ride.
Southern (Nangfang Sangna Hui Suo) Sauna Club might be the closest.
You could also try your luck at Yao Hong (originally known as Ji Yuan 3) , but I have no clue if they are still open.
Central Taiwan huh? Everyone seems to be really excited when they talk about Golden Jaguar in Taichung.
Here in Shanghai, Golden Jaguar is just a buffet. Sigh.
I bet those guys were not military and the military fatigues were likely for marketing. Most military who want to sell military equipment probably sell those things off wholesale to some chump who in turn sells that stuff at flea markets rather than risk getting caught.
However, as it turns out, as far as military stuff goes, a year or two ago I read an article about how easy it is to buy a fake white military license plate. Apparently the sellers of these plates are fairly ballsy about it and at the time the article was written they were fairly open about it at flea markets. I forgot where I read it, sorry.
The article said apparently as far as enforcement goes, most local police don't mess with the military and vice versa, plus nobody has a database to keep track of how many and to whom special plates are issued to.
So if you swing some big brass balls, look and act like police or military, and drive around in a suitable SUV or expensive sedan, you can drive around as if you really are entitled to be a dickhead driver.
Just don't get caught!
MAB.
[QUOTE=Fuzimiao; 1153838]Wise words indeed from Mock a Bee. It seems incredible that our brothers can still be scammed by these characters!
M. A. B. May I add a new scam to the list! Driving in Pudong last month, waiting at a traffic light, I was approached by two young men wearing military fatigues (including hats, but no insignia) who pointed to a camouflage painted jeep across the road, where two more soldiers where holding up a pair of military style infra red binoculars, offering them for sale! I've since seen the team several times around Pudong. The jeep looked brand new, but again, no insignia. Possibly a student rag week stunt? In China?
Fz[/QUOTE]
Can't wait to go find my atf at bodi. But itching to go try sacrosa from the many recommendations of fellow mongers.
[quote=guitarrefreak;1155672]can't wait to go find my atf at bodi. but itching to go try sacrosa from the many recommendations of fellow mongers.[/quote]i wouldn't bother if i were you. sacrosa is, imho, the worst sauna (bathing facilities, athmosphere ánd girls, can't say anything about the rooms) in shanghai. i came there, clothing room floor looked like an ashtray, showers smelling like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], and was shown a line-up (in a narrow dark hallway) of two girls, both trying to avoid to look at me. none of my liking, so was told i had to wait half an hour. after half an hour, was shown the same two girls. had to wait another half hour and was shown a line-up of 8 girls. all looking very unhappy to their feet. so i left. 88 rmb for using the facilities.
stick with bodi.
i'll post my reports in a few days.
[quote=laowei137; 1155775]i wouldn't bother if i were you. sacrosa is, imho, the worst sauna (bathing facilities, athmosphere ánd girls, can't say anything about the rooms) in shanghai. i came there, clothing room floor looked like an ashtray, showers smelling like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], and was shown a line-up (in a narrow dark hallway) of two girls, both trying to avoid to look at me. none of my liking, so was told i had to wait half an hour. after half an hour, was shown the same two girls. had to wait another half hour and was shown a line-up of 8 girls. all looking very unhappy to their feet. so i left. 88 rmb for using the facilities.
stick with bodi.
i'll post my reports in a few days. [/quote]for a while sacrosa was the only place i knew of, so i went there several times. many times the girls are staring blankly at the ground and even seem annoyed when picked, but in the room their attitudes often completely change. i've had the worst looks in the lineup turn out to be funny giggly girls in the room. i don't really understand why, but it's been my experience none the less. your mileage may vary.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1155904]Many times the girls are staring blankly at the ground and even seem annoyed when picked, but in the room their attitudes often completely change. I've had the worst looks in the lineup turn out to be funny giggly girls in the room. I don't really understand why, but it's been my experience none the less. Your mileage may vary.[/QUOTE]Same experience here, why? Is this a 'face' issue, I. E. The girls do not want to show to each other that they are 'eager' to serve clients? Must be some psychological thing, just wonder why. In the room the ice queens often turn into sweet angels.
Dear all, not much to contribute is this particular thread, still saving up ($ and swimmers) for a big trip to Asia in Sept.
I came across some guys discussing the Red Rope technique which is apparently practised in Shanghai. The guys on the KL thread seam to argue that it's a dying art form even in Shanghai let alone available in KL.
Would any fellow members care to comment? I've have never heard or seen anything like it, kinda reminds me of the Sex and Zen franchises. Has anyone recently experienced had the pleasure?
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RandiiSav
Barring the previously stated con's about Sacrosa's limited facilities, I will say that the choice I made the other day, #176, 20 years old from Sichuan with a cute body, nice breasts, great hair and a tiny tummy, was an amazing experience. All pro's. Here's the run-down of my surprisingly long 2 hour stay:
- Warm up with a great massage.
- Move to an extended cat bath, including having me stand and teabag her mouth, licking under the carriage.
- HJ while kissing, very surprised she was into that.
- Best BBBJ I've had in a long, long time. This girl was unreal with the way she moved her head.
- Nice tight pussy, about 20 minutes sex in 4 positions, including reverse cowgirl (her idea)
- Rim / HJ combo to make me cum.
- Cuddling, still playing with each other, chit-chat.
- I massage her, she shows me she has a sore neck from doing yoga, shows me some poses.
- I compliment her BJ, she happily gives me another before we go.
Despite the shabby location, possibly the best girl I've ever been to. Absolutely will go back.
[QUOTE=Randiisavage; 1156246]Dear all, not much to contribute is this particular thread, still saving up ($ and swimmers) for a big trip to Asia in Sept.
I came across some guys discussing the Red Rope technique which is apparently practised in Shanghai. The guys on the KL thread seam to argue that it's a dying art form even in Shanghai let alone available in KL.
Would any fellow members care to comment? I've have never heard or seen anything like it, kinda reminds me of the Sex and Zen franchises. Has anyone recently experienced had the pleasure?
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RandiiSav[/QUOTE]HaiLang on Zhongshan Xi Lu. It would be best to tell the manager or papasan that is what you are looking for. All of the gals may not have the skills.
Cal8
[QUOTE=Randiisavage; 1156246]Dear all, not much to contribute is this particular thread, still saving up ($ and swimmers) for a big trip to Asia in Sept.
I came across some guys discussing the Red Rope technique which is apparently practised in Shanghai. The guys on the KL thread seam to argue that it's a dying art form even in Shanghai let alone available in KL.
Would any fellow members care to comment? I've have never heard or seen anything like it, kinda reminds me of the Sex and Zen franchises. Has anyone recently experienced had the pleasure?
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RandiiSav[/QUOTE]To Randi,
There are many sauna offer red rope 8 yr ago yes it is a dying art, there are a few place in China still offer it I got red rope last month at zhu hai but she only did it for 5 min not very well train, I even saw a red rope set up in singpapore geylang area last month but didn't try too expensive, it is a ok experience I have done it many time before, but I don't really care for it that much.
Fast Eddie 48
Hi,
Finally I got a chance to go shanghai after read through the posts and see what good fun some bro are having there.
I will be staying at holiday inn vista hotel along changshou Road.
I am looking for bbs due to tight budget.
Anyone know of any bbs near my hotel?
And what the rate for overnight? BTW, what time usually bbs open and close?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1156370]To Randi,
There are many sauna offer red rope 8 yr ago yes it is a dying art, there are a few place in China still offer it I got red rope last month at zhu hai but she only did it for 5 min not very well train, I even saw a red rope set up in singpapore geylang area last month but didn't try too expensive, it is a ok experience I have done it many time before, but I don't really care for it that much.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Thanks Fast Eddie and Cal8 for your replies. Too bad I guess Red Rope tech is another tradition which will slowly disappear into oblivion. So in summation is it well worth a shot? Or does it just look way cooler then it really is?
My "experience" P4P is limited to mostly massage parlours and the occasional long time. Surely there must be plenty of stuff in China that I've never heard or seen. Red Rope being one. Any other specialities in shanghai or greater China that is a must do?
I appreciate your valuable inputs gentlemen. (formal bow of humility)
Regards RandiisaV
I did the red rope twice in shanghai a few years ago in famous shanghai hotel sauna.
It is a nice experience, but not really a must to repeat. But in any way, if you have a chance to try it, it is worth once. Quite some nice feeling, a girl hanging from the ceiling, spinning around with her mouth cover your little friend. But as I said, once is enough.
Somewhere in the foto section were some fotos, shot during the red rope routine.
Recently I did not hear any saunas in shanghai still have it.
Thomas Jefferson
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1156370]To Randi,
There are many sauna offer red rope 8 yr ago yes it is a dying art, there are a few place in China still offer it I got red rope last month at zhu hai but she only did it for 5 min not very well train, I even saw a red rope set up in singpapore geylang area last month but didn't try too expensive, it is a ok experience I have done it many time before, but I don't really care for it that much.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=R The Man; 1147149]Hi all,
I will find myself in Shanghai in a couple of weeks, and will be staying at the Radisson New World. Don't have much free time, so wanted to check out a sauna close by. I see that there is a Fengdingyuan Sauna nearby. One review in 2009 that wasn't bad, but wanted to know if anyone has been there more recently. Any recommendations for other saunas near the Radisson?
In reading this forum, it seems like there was quite a bit of LE around the Expo last year, so some places like Shanghai Hotel were shut down. How is it now?
Thanks, R. [/QUOTE]I managed to sneak away from family to make a visit to this sauna on West Nanjing Road, very close to my hotel. Easy to find with the instructions on the 2009 review (do a search to find it). The facilities were very nice and clean and the staff were excellent. All spoke English so no language problem. Cost was 680 RMB. I had a choice of 6 girls, and chose #86. A little older (maybe 30?) but had great tits (at least see / the cup) and.surprise- spoke very good English. Only a little bit of LFK, but good service with BBBJ, followed by several positions and then hand / BJ to completion. But no CIM unfortunately.
Probably the service / price is better at places like Sacrosa, but for the convenience and the excellent facilities, I would recommend this sauna to tourists.
Enjoy, R.
For 90 mins today, my ATF helped me forget all my problems and made me imagine a different life. Ahh. Bliss. DFK, DATY, real wetness down there, you name it, she gave it. (to me that is.)
Planning to ask her sneak out of work early tomorrow so that we can enjoy Friday night together.
BTW, when I went back to my hotel, saw this tanned petite asian chick with fake lashes running to elevator to get to lobby. Turns out she was meeting with this fat dirty white dude. Who was obviously have a major boner for this chick.
Hey FDWD.. If you are reading this. I would like to be your friend. I salute you for finding such a hot date.
[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson; 1157044]I did the red rope twice in shanghai a few years ago in famous shanghai hotel sauna.
It is a nice experience, but not really a must to repeat. But in any way, if you have a chance to try it, it is worth once. Quite some nice feeling, a girl hanging from the ceiling, spinning around with her mouth cover your little friend. But as I said, once is enough.
Somewhere in the foto section were some fotos, shot during the red rope routine.
Recently I did not hear any saunas in shanghai still have it.
Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]I agree with Tijuana's post, my first time was at Shanghai Hotel Sauna but my gal also positioned herself on the rope for the deed. Well worth it to try but do not need to repeat.
Cal8
[QUOTE=MrSexman; 1156441]Hi,
Finally I got a chance to go shanghai after read through the posts and see what good fun some bro are having there.
I will be staying at holiday inn vista hotel along changshou Road.
I am looking for bbs due to tight budget.
Anyone know of any bbs near my hotel?
And what the rate for overnight? BTW, what time usually bbs open and close?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Just go to the Sauna in the Hotel. Well worth the visit.
[QUOTE=Thekraz;1157233]Just go to the Sauna in the Hotel. Well worth the visit.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Thanks.
I read your post, look like you have a good time there.
But rmb1000 is a bit too much for me as I on tight budget.
That why I hoping there are some bbs near the holiday inn vista area.
I hear the rate of bring bbs gal back to hotel for overnight is about rmb 600. True?
Thanks.
On cell phones. A new wrinkle, at least for me. Went to one of the saunas I frequent and yesterday afternoon they made me leave my cell in the change room. That had never happened to me before. I had read about it on an earlier post but it had not happened to me. Well, it may. And I don't know why.
[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1157302]On cell phones. A new wrinkle, at least for me. Went to one of the saunas I frequent and yesterday afternoon they made me leave my cell in the change room. That had never happened to me before. I had read about it on an earlier post but it had not happened to me. Well, it may. And I don't know why.[/QUOTE]This has happened to me too. My guesses are:
1) they don't want you taking pictures of the girls or staff.
2) they don't want you to get the girls' phone numbers and arrange to meet them outside the establishment, where they would lose their cut of the money.
Any other theories, gentlemen?
[QUOTE=Bob Sacamano; 1157497]This has happened to me too. My guesses are:
1) they don't want you taking pictures of the girls or staff.
2) they don't want you to get the girls' phone numbers and arrange to meet them outside the establishment, where they would lose their cut of the money.
Any other theories, gentlemen? [/QUOTE]1) a possibility.
2) one can always have a good memory, the phone number cna be written on a piece of paper or on the palm of the customer.
3) They maybe just do not want that other people is bothered by phone conversations when in common rooms or
4) they do not want that, in case a customer is a covered LE, he directs collegues for a raid.
I remember someone posted a while ago about the Royalton, near Zhongshan Park. Happened to be in the area the other night, so went to have a look. Inside the hotel, took the elevator down to B1. Looked like nothing was really there, except a hair salon, and another small door with the metal gate pulled down. Girl came out of the salon and asked what I was looking for."No more spa here?" Closed for 'renovations'."Are you staying at the hotel? We can arrange a massage in the room." So it's like that.
Long time reader, thought I would finally submit a post.
Went to Manhattan last night 11:30, seemed quite crowded and probably 60/40 men / women. First time there so not sure if this is normal for a Friday night. Only saw a few stunners in the bar, lots of average or below. Had avery friendly encounter with a 24 yo from Beijing. Mixed Chinese / Singaporean. Very cute, probably a 7/10 but made up for it with attitude and energy. After a few drinks went back to the hotel.
Nice GFE experience, very attentive and enjoyable. After a bit of playing DFK, HJ, etc. We had a great session (mish, over edge of bed, her on top, etc.) until I could take no more. After we finished she gave me a kiss, phone and claimed to need to be at work in the morning. It was 1:45. Wonder if she went back to work.
Picked up this pinoy from Manhattan last night around 1am. First she asked for 3000 and I laughed at her and countered with 1000. We ended up at 1200. She had just arrived Wed so was anxious to make some quick money I guess to pay her rent for her stay. She said she was staying in a room in a local apartment block about 10min. From JingAn.
Anyway,
Face. 7.
Body. 6 (big tramp stamp and not a flat stomach)
Service. 4.
BBBJ. Yes but I can't remember anything about it so I think it wasn't very good.
DFK. A bit.
DATY. Yes.
Multiple positions; covered. She went through the motions well but somehow it didn't turn me on. YMMV.
Wouldn't take her again so didn't ask for her number.
[QUOTE=Guitarrefreak; 1157116]For 90 mins today, my ATF helped me forget all my problems and made me imagine a different life. Ahh. Bliss. DFK, DATY, real wetness down there, you name it, she gave it. (to me that is.)
Planning to ask her sneak out of work early tomorrow so that we can enjoy Friday night together.
BTW, when I went back to my hotel, saw this tanned petite asian chick with fake lashes running to elevator to get to lobby. Turns out she was meeting with this fat dirty white dude. Who was obviously have a major boner for this chick.
Hey FDWD. If you are reading this. I would like to be your friend. I salute you for finding such a hot date.[/QUOTE]Violated rule #1 of mongering which is not to have feelings, but my atf came back to my hotel with me last night, after her work, and despite her being very tired, gave me the best GFE I have had in a long time, bb everything and all. Once before we went to bed, another before I took off to the airport, refused to take anything from me.
When I got my cell changed for China 30 months ago all I needed to do was have over the rmb and I got a sim card. A friend of mine, also from the US, had to bring in his passport and residency paper work before they would sell him a sim card. So the authorities have moved the goal posts so to speak. This is in Shanghai. May not be accurate in other pats of China. Anyone else got a sim card in a US phone lately? Any issues?
[QUOTE=Bob Sacamano; 1157497]This has happened to me too. My guesses are:
1) they don't want you taking pictures of the girls or staff.
2) they don't want you to get the girls' phone numbers and arrange to meet them outside the establishment, where they would lose their cut of the money.
Any other theories, gentlemen? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ronin500;1157630]Picked up this pinoy from Manhattan last night around 1am. First she asked for 3000 and I laughed at her and countered with 1000. We ended up at 1200. .[/QUOTE]Hello, Ronin500,
A man from Philippines is called PINOY.
In your picture she looks like a girl. A girl from Philippines is called PINAY.
She is good looking. Why only one picture?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=MrSexman; 1157288]Hi,
Thanks.
I read your post, look like you have a good time there.
But rmb1000 is a bit too much for me as I on tight budget.
That why I hoping there are some bbs near the holiday inn vista area.
I hear the rate of bring bbs gal back to hotel for overnight is about rmb 600. True?
Thanks. [/QUOTE]I also would like to know if there are any BBS in that area. If you don't find anything I'd recommend checking out the cluster of BBS at Chengjiaqiao Road. It's a subway trek over to that area, but it's fun once you're there because there are so many of them in close proximity. I should disclaim that I haven't been to Chengjiaqiao Road in a about a month though so your mileage may vary.
[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1157700]When I got my cell changed for China 30 months ago all I needed to do was have over the rmb and I got a sim card. A friend of mine, also from the US, had to bring in his passport and residency paper work before they would sell him a sim card. So the authorities have moved the goal posts so to speak. This is in Shanghai. May not be accurate in other pats of China. Anyone else got a sim card in a US phone lately? Any issues?[/QUOTE]
There are many kinds of payment plans. If you buy a sim card at a main outlet they must register and require ID.
You can then request them to allow foreign calls. They will sell you a payment plan with a fixed minimum monthly charge.
If you buy from a street kiosk, the sim is normally pre-registered by the kiosk owner, in his name, thus no formalities, handover 50rmb for a sim card preloaded with 50rmb. These are best because the payment plan has no subscription componet. Imagine, the kiosk owner may have many preregistered cards on his hands.
If you wish to use the Chinese card abroad, you need.
To charge it above 300rmb, then call the help line, you can arrange foreign use for one month free of charge.
If travelling in China, charge up before you go, it is difficult to charge a Shanghai card outside Shanghai. Last week trying to recharge a Shanghai China mobile card in Nanjing was impossible. Only the smallest kiosk sell cards valid throughout China.
Fz
Since the crack downs began last year prior to the Expo, my friend and I have now made it a habit of checking with a local law enforcement friend before heading to any saunas, just to make sure the coast is clear. We were thinking about going this weekend, but were told to definitely avoid any activities for the time being. Apparently their is a major law enforcement conference in town, specifically related to cleaning up cities of prostitution. A number of places are actually closed during this period.
But another interesting thing we were told is that, in situations like these, for the places that do stay open, they will tell their regulars to avoid coming temporarily. But for non-regulars, managers will tell them everything's safe. So it's these unsuspecting customers who may end up being 'sacrificed' in order to help law enforcement to meet their quotas. One of those "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" types of mutual benefit.
Not sure to what extent that is all true, and I don't mean to falsely alarm anyone, but better to err on the side of caution, if you can hold out for a few more days at least. Those places that are closed should be back in operation towards the end of the week.
Just got back from a business trip to Dalang and was staying at the holiday in downtown next to the train station.
Went to the 5 floor and ask the massage place and was told that they only had legit massage so, I went to hit a old place which I remember from several years back call skyline which was over the walking cross bridge to the opposite side of the main street.
Note: I posted on this forum to see if any one still goes there and there was no answer.
Its now under new owners and when I went up I was asked how long ago since I was there and the receptionist told me that its under new management and it is now legit. I looked at the prices and saw anywhere from 100-800 and was hesitant to believe that its legit. But I am not one who will blow 800 for a normal massage. So, if you regulars out there who want to try and let us know, that would be appreciated.
Next night, I went to Heting at 777 and was meet and greet up to the third floor by guard. Got the 680 massage and believe it to be 60-90 mins. Follow the captain through a maze to the a foot massage room and where there was a locker there. Pop in your key to unlock, undress into your robe, stashing away your clothes + personal items, was given a clear pouch for my cell phone and cigarettes. Then follow the captain through the back door to the shower. Dis-robe, shower and walk over to be dried off my some dude and redress in robe. (Not my liking at all, I am use to pay a little extra at other places like macau where you get bath by a a girl + a BJ for a little extra) Then you are off again with the captain through maze to secret room for line up. Had about 10 to select from and selected a hottie then follow her out the side then another captain gave her a card for room location and took down my key number. (everything is track by that)
Walk about 2 mins in the maze of rooms, left, right, left, right, right, I was like alrite already, just get me there. Entered the room and was told there are no rooms with showers. Oh well. I like rooms with private showers as there are more services that can happen there. The room was fine, mirrors on both sides and on top. A util box where she gets some gear was the base on one end and the bed was on the other. Some one delivers the hot water, water and ice. She prepared her stuff and we made light conversation. Confirmed that she will give me 2 pops. And then off she goes had me sitting at the edge of the bed and used hand wipes to clean bro then when down for bbbjcm Rinse her mouth with mouth wash and more rinse as she clean me up. Then place tissues strategically on the bed for sanitary reasons and had me lay face down. Did the tough bath, on the back the feet then harden her nips with ice on her fine boobs and gave the nip-tickle-massage + arousal moans in ear. Then flip and lay on back, where she did the same 2 steps. Pretty standard stuff.
Now she use wipes to clean toe and put condom on big toe and she rides your toe. Still standard stuff, nice, but nothing out of the ordinary yet. She ride you and a BJ on all your fingers. She does the same on the other big toe on my other leg, and here is something which was new to me, she bent my leg a bit did the toe ride and was giving me a BBBJ at the same time. Now if you didn't get that, just think that your big to is feeling the silky warmths of her V as she is riding it up and down and she is BBBJ you at the same time. Never had it done like this, and later ask her for the name of the routine since I wanted to know.
Then she had me stand and gave me the captain morgan. Not as nice as when you have it done in the shower, but it was not bad, she had you place one leg on the bed standing like captain morgan, she goes under, between your legs does the tough bath on your legs, inner thighs, licks the privates from back to front stops at the balls for some sucking the straight into a BBBJ. Took a bit of time to do unlike my meagerly one paragraph.
Then she continues with the fire and ice routine then a quick and surprise condom cover applied using her mouth. She ride me backwards, side ways, I nag her against the wall. Etc and she finished me off by being on top of me.
She then cleans you and calls to report in, they speak with you on your event, and if you have time, chill for a bit or like me time was up and I paid at the front after reversing the whole shower thing again. That's the whole thing skipping on some simple stuff.
GL
Unfortunately, I am going to be in Shanghai just one full day and evening in early July. I arrive early in the morning on a Sunday, and depart the next day.
I am looking for something unique to do, and not worried about the price. I am staying at a Marriott at Tomorrow Square (free on points, so prefer not to move) and don't know if girl-friendly.
I am assuming Shanghai is pretty dead, but looking to find something on the higher end.
Much appreciated.
Sean
[QUOTE=Sean Casey; 1157958]. . . I am going to be in Shanghai just one full day and evening in early July. I arrive early in the morning on a Sunday, and depart the next day.
. . ..Sean[/QUOTE]A sauna is the answer.
Hi everyone.
If you were looking for a high quality legit massage, no extras, possibly a two lady massage, where would you go?
I will be staying at the Radisson New World.
I have heard the Dragonfly retreats are quite good.
Any recomendations? Thanks
[QUOTE=PauloThai; 1157704]Hello, Ronin500,
A man from Philippines is called PINOY.
In your picture she looks like a girl. A girl from Philippines is called PINAY.
She is good looking. Why only one picture?
Cheers! [/QUOTE]Thanks for the lesson on Pinoy / pinay; actually never heard that before. Don't usually use that term anyway. I don't have a real camera and always wondered how guys get these girls to pose. This picture was taken with my Blackberry; either she was moving or my hand was moving or both so it came out a bit blurry.
She may look okay but as I mentioned in the report, I wouldn't take her again. Although she was fun in the bar once at my place I just didn't feel any chemistry. She went through all the motions, never complained or anything, but there was just something missing for me.
If you're interested you could probably find her at Manhattan, or she said she likes to go to Malone's because she likes the band.
[QUOTE=Sean Casey; 1157958]Unfortunately, I am going to be in Shanghai just one full day and evening in early July. I arrive early in the morning on a Sunday, and depart the next day.
I am looking for something unique to do, and not worried about the price. I am staying at a Marriott at Tomorrow Square (free on points, so prefer not to move) and don't know if girl-friendly.
I am assuming Shanghai is pretty dead, but looking to find something on the higher end.
Much appreciated.
Sean[/QUOTE]Give Manhatten a try. I think it's a safe bet you'll find something you'll like there
[QUOTE=Peterpack; 1158008]Hi everyone.
If you were looking for a high quality legit massage, no extras, possibly a two lady massage, where would you go?
I will be staying at the Radisson New World.
I have heard the Dragonfly retreats are quite good.
Any recomendations? Thanks[/QUOTE]If you're staying at the Radisson in Pudong Thumb Plaza, there is a Bamboo 7 shop very near (you can google their locations). I've only used that particular one once, and the massage was good. Their branch in Hongfeng Road. Jinqiao is very good for standard massage, very popular. I believe Congen Health Massage is also legitimate, there is one near Thumb Plaza. People tend to give Dragonfly gift vouchers to others, not use themselves because it's expensive unless the lighting and decor is important to you.
I do not think so. Take a tour of the sauna's and soapy's that have been reviewed here. Slip the girl either a couple hundred rmb or a couple Franklins (she'll most likely know what they are worth). If you do it before she starts her routine you could be surprised. I for one would not say Shanghai is dead. It is varied and fantastic when it comes to fucking good looking Chinese girls. You will either run out of money or you will not be able to get your dick hard. Bring some Vitamin V. In a good fucking day that won't work either.
[QUOTE=Sean Casey; 1157958]Unfortunately, I am going to be in Shanghai just one full day and evening in early July. I arrive early in the morning on a Sunday, and depart the next day.
I am looking for something unique to do, and not worried about the price. I am staying at a Marriott at Tomorrow Square (free on points, so prefer not to move) and don't know if girl-friendly.
I am assuming Shanghai is pretty dead, but looking to find something on the higher end.
Much appreciated.
Sean[/QUOTE]
I decided to follow my fellow mongers advices and tried waves on Zhongshan road. First of all, do not trust Google map, it will just mislead you. You can find clear indications on ISG.
I've been living in Shanghai in a while and I like to go to massage places with HE. Occasionally, I'll go to Sacrosa, I tried Bodi once but didn't like to have a camera in front of my head. Because I was in the area, I wanted to give Waves (Hailang) a try. And, oh man! What a sweet idea!
Generally speaking, the place is very clean. The usual routine: take off your clothes, get a bracelet, take a shower, dry and put a bathrobe. It was 5. 00pm, I guess they weren't that busy, I didn't need to wait and they took me directly to the fishbowl.
The line up was massive, young girls and more mature (but nobody older than 30). Tall girls, busty girls, petites, I even saw one dressed like a air hostess. It was personally the best line up I've ever been in front of (when I went to Bodi, I was in front of a very poor line-up, maybe I went there at a bad moments because I read so many good reviews from that place). There's a glass between you and the girls, I'm not sure whether they can see you or not, so I took all my time and finally picked up a very young one.
I'm bad with numbers she was something63. The papasan wanted me to get a stunner but her face wasn't as cute as my choice. Something63 happened to be a new-comer (1 month only in Shanghai and I guess 1 month only in the business) .19 years old, from Dongbei, she was a real petite. Her boobs were a regular B-cup but very good looking and she had a very nice pussy not too hairy. She asked me how I found this place and I said "a friend told me to come here" (golden rule: never say that you found that place thanks to ISG).
She mentioned that her previous customer was also a white guy, I don't really like this kind of information (girl, I know you have sex with tons of guys as a living but picturing it won't turn me on). Then, I had all you can expect from a spa: nuru-nuru, catbath, I refused rimming, BBBJ and mish. She was very playful and childish, I guess this is some kind of role playing they have there. She had a great attitude, she took it but admitted she had strong stomachaches only after I was done.
As I said before, she seemed to be a rookie, she wasn't mechanical (still, she supplied many fake orgasms) , a bit lazy (mish only, she even cuddled me for 15 long minutes before getting down to business) but still, she happened to have a nice attitude. Compared to other "masseuses" that I had before, she wasn't clingy asking me to call for her at the cashier desk next time I'll be there.
I'm very satisfied by my experience at Waves. I was in front of a very attractive line-up with very different kind of (Chinese) girls + with the glass, you don't need to play eye-contact, you just pick what you want. It's slightly more expensive than Sacrosa or Bodi (800) but I really like their facilities. I will definitively go there again. And again and again.
Usually, I always have some kind of disappointment: when I go to massage+HE I feel like I always have old masseuses (I'm 26, so this is why it matters so much to me to be touched by young girls) , the time I went to bodi the line-up wasn't amazing and I had to do it with a camera on my head, when I go to Sacrosa there's always #206 in the line-up staring at me with sad eyes like "why didn't you ask for me at the cashier desk so that I could get a commission?" so I always ends up fucking her.
Related to area recommendations, I'm traveling this week to Shanghai and staying in Sheraton. Any recommendations in nearby area as I have understood from browsing the thread that most of the big name Saunas etc. Are either Pudong side or close proximity to it.
Thank you.
Not to be disrespectful, but I really don't understand why anyone would want to pay nearly $185usd for a Pilipino girl in China.
Based on today's current conversion rate. 1,200rmb = $184. 42usd.
IMHO, I would say this is way above market rate.
I would appreciate if someone would explain this to me.
MAB.
[QUOTE=Ronin500; 1157630]Picked up this pinoy from Manhattan last night around 1am. First she asked for 3000 and I laughed at her and countered with 1000. We ended up at 1200. She had just arrived Wed so was anxious to make some quick money I guess to pay her rent for her stay. She said she was staying in a room in a local apartment block about 10min. From JingAn.
Anyway,
Face. 7.
Body. 6 (big tramp stamp and not a flat stomach)
Service. 4.
BBBJ. Yes but I can't remember anything about it so I think it wasn't very good.
DFK. A bit.
DATY. Yes.
Multiple positions; covered. She went through the motions well but somehow it didn't turn me on. YMMV.
Wouldn't take her again so didn't ask for her number. [/QUOTE]
Last week, I paid 300rmb for FS from a BBS, in the middle of town.
She was complete GFE, gave me a full hour of time which included DFK, BBBJ,and DATY.
She had a really cute face, a nice and slender body with B cup breasts, and was totally horny and sweet.
Only annoying thing was, she doesn't like it when I wanted to digitally "check her oil".
I think she is no older than 21 or 22yo.
She even treated me to a tall cold Suntory beer in the shop, and she does not hassle me for more money or a tip.
This was the second time I did her. I plan to rinse and repeat as many times as possible before she becomes an old hag.
MAB.
Ps, sorry I can't share this BBS, they don't have enough girls right now and they would be totally overwhelmed if I posted this one, and their service would eventually become pretty lousy.
Staying at the JW Marriott at Tomorrow Square on Nanjing Road.
Looking for the best sauna near there. Also, unfortunately, I am on there on a Sunday night if that makes a difference.
Also, isn't the Manhattan Bar close to me?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee; 1158432]Not to be disrespectful, but I really don't understand why anyone would want to pay nearly $185usd for a Pilipino girl in China.
Based on today's current conversion rate. 1,200rmb = $184. 42usd.
IMHO, I would say this is way above market rate.
I would appreciate if someone would explain this to me.
MAB[/QUOTE]My experience is that when you do a LT take out at a bar / KTV its usually higher. I remember that I had friends who takes out elites at txrg KTV for 2k+. But it definitely depends on your negotiation skills. With that said, there is a bare min, and we all hope to get to that number unless she falls for your charm and its free. :)
I have taken out hot bbs girls before for about 800 for LT. But have not done so for a while, so maybe it a bit more now.
I have also tried feet wash girls, they will do it for free or min charge, but I always offer to buy them some stuff.
Not sure if any one who don't live in shanghai will have to time for this type of play.
Hey Sean,
Near People's Square, you can take subway line to Donchang Road and go to Sacrosa. Gather some data from ISG because the place is hidden at the 5th floor of a business building. Bodi can also be a good solution because it's easier to find, as you can see on my previous report, I recently went to Waves and really liked it but it's maybe a little bit too far from you.
Avoid all the massage parlors in the People's Square area because it's a tourist spot: some are legits and others will just rip you with a HJ for 1000+RMB (you will start with a 1 hours 300rmb something massage and the girl will try to make you add two more hours). In the same area, many people will ask if you want a "sex massaji", refuse politely, most of them are scams. Also, the usual recommendation: avoid Craigslist and other classified websites if you don't want end up with some way too expensive ugly girl.
As a long stayer here, I just would like to say to all the tourists coming to Shanghai, ISG provides comprehensive information regarding spas, BBS, massage parlors, their location, their price and all the dos and don'ts. If you don't follow everything gathered here and accept what we recommend here to refuse, then service will get worse but price will increase, what can be ok for tourists on holidays is not for settlers. Mock a Bee just gave a report about a BBS but doesn't want to share its location for this reason and I totally understand him.
Before I discovered this website I got ripped more than often (this is why I had so many bad experiences and can tell you about all the scams near People's Square) , now that I regularly read it, I have better mongering experiences. So I just recommend you to read previous reports and gather all the information you will need to get to one place and then, just enjoy your stay here.
By the way, I'm not really into Southern Asians so I've never been to Manhattan.
[QUOTE=Sean Casey; 1158453]Staying at the JW Marriott at Tomorrow Square on Nanjing Road.
Looking for the best sauna near there. Also, unfortunately, I am on there on a Sunday night if that makes a difference.
Also, isn't the Manhattan Bar close to me?
Thanks! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee; 1158432]Not to be disrespectful, but I really don't understand why anyone would want to pay nearly $185usd for a Pilipino girl in China.
Based on today's current conversion rate. 1,200rmb = $184. 42usd.
IMHO, I would say this is way above market rate.
I would appreciate if someone would explain this to me.
MAB. [/QUOTE]MAB,
That's the going rate here. You pay it or go home alone. Of course you can get a pinay for less in the PH yadda yadda but Shanghai is not SEA. I could go to PH and get it cheap but add in plane fare and hotels and I would be well above the US$185 it cost me here. Further, I can't make even 1/3 of what I earn in Shanghai if I worked inPH and that's if I could even find a job in my profession there. Economics 101? And yes, I can go to a BBS for a 200rmb fcuk but there's a big difference between that and taking a girl home for an all nighter.
Are you in Shanghai or PH?
Ronin500
[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow;1153681]Just a tip, but if you don't want to offend someone, you probably shouldn't call him fat and / or old.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that I offended YOU.
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee; 1153758]Anyone who goes with a tout is a fool. No matter what they say or what price they advertise, they can't be trusted. This has been said on this forum pretty much FOREVER.
The chances of getting set up is very high, and nearly impossible to figure out if you are being set up before it is too late. You risk physical harm if you don't empty your wallet. Some people on this forum have even reported being strong armed into pulling money out of an ATM.
This goes for the Tea House Scam, the Buy me a beer Scam, the Sauna Scam, the Hottie for the too good to be true price Scam, the I am Learning English will you practice with me Scam, the I am an Art Student come see my artwork Scam, etc. You name it, it has been used as a line to draw you to a place where thugs will threaten to beat the living crap out of you. It simply isn't worth the risk. There are way too many safe options for pros not to mention freebies, to bother with the risk of a tout.
If you don't heed this advice, I hate to say it but you deserve what you get.
MAB[/QUOTE]I posted about being in such a predicament. If you are not a wussy and are well built and know how to fight then just don't let them intimidate you. Even the pla trained guys can't fight in a real brawl. If 6 of these 'thugs' walk into your room, then only if they have knifes or a gun will the force equation be unbalanced against your favour.
[QUOTE=Dirknblane;1153722]Those girls are there to sit, play games and drink with you. Your expected to tip them when you want to leave. You can negotiate to take them out but don't know current costs.[/QUOTE]Well anyone have a ballmark idea? They are so hot I think 2000rmb would be a reasonable 'starting' price.
[QUOTE=Mattsh; 1158393]I decided to follow my fellow mongers advices and tried waves on Zhongshan road. First of all, do not trust Google map, it will just mislead you. You can find clear indications on ISG.
I've been living in Shanghai in a while and I like to go to massage places with HE. Occasionally, I'll go to Sacrosa, I tried Bodi once but didn't like to have a camera in front of my head. Because I was in the area, I wanted to give Waves (Hailang) a try. And, oh man! What a sweet idea!
Generally speaking, the place is very clean. The usual routine: take off your clothes, get a bracelet, take a shower, dry and put a bathrobe. It was 5. 00pm, I guess they weren't that busy, I didn't need to wait and they took me directly to the fishbowl.
The line up was massive, young girls and more mature (but nobody older than 30). Tall girls, busty girls, petites, I even saw one dressed like a air hostess. It was personally the best line up I've ever been in front of (when I went to Bodi, I was in front of a very poor line-up, maybe I went there at a bad moments because I read so many good reviews from that place). There's a glass between you and the girls, I'm not sure whether they can see you or not, so I took all my time and finally picked up a very young one.
I'm bad with numbers she was something63. The papasan wanted me to get a stunner but her face wasn't as cute as my choice. Something63 happened to be a new-comer (1 month only in Shanghai and I guess 1 month only in the business).19 years old, from Dongbei, she was a real petite. Her boobs were a regular B-cup but very good looking and she had a very nice pussy not too hairy. She asked me how I found this place and I said "a friend told me to come here" (golden rule: never say that you found that place thanks to ISG).
She mentioned that her previous customer was also a white guy, I don't really like this kind of information (girl, I know you have sex with tons of guys as a living but picturing it won't turn me on). Then, I had all you can expect from a spa: nuru-nuru, catbath, I refused rimming, BBBJ and mish. She was very playful and childish, I guess this is some kind of role playing they have there. She had a great attitude, she took it but admitted she had strong stomachaches only after I was done.
As I said before, she seemed to be a rookie, she wasn't mechanical (still, she supplied many fake orgasms) , a bit lazy (mish only, she even cuddled me for 15 long minutes before getting down to business) but still, she happened to have a nice attitude. Compared to other "masseuses" that I had before, she wasn't clingy asking me to call for her at the cashier desk next time I'll be there.
I'm very satisfied by my experience at Waves. I was in front of a very attractive line-up with very different kind of (Chinese) girls + with the glass, you don't need to play eye-contact, you just pick what you want. It's slightly more expensive than Sacrosa or Bodi (800) but I really like their facilities. I will definitively go there again. And again and again.
Usually, I always have some kind of disappointment: when I go to massage+HE I feel like I always have old masseuses (I'm 26, so this is why it matters so much to me to be touched by young girls) , the time I went to bodi the line-up wasn't amazing and I had to do it with a camera on my head, when I go to Sacrosa there's always #206 in the line-up staring at me with sad eyes like "why didn't you ask for me at the cashier desk so that I could get a commission?" so I always ends up fucking her. [/QUOTE]"I tried Bodi once but didn't like to have a camera in front of my head."
You're on camera at Bodi? Is this known for sure? If so. What is done with the footage?
First time at Manhattan:
As described in earlier posts, easy to find, just around the block from the Portman Ritz Carlton Hotel. It was Monday and I got there early 9. 30 pm, I was the first guy in there. Not many girls to choose from, only 4 Vietnamese in there early 20's. 2 of them were stunners though so I started to negotiate with one of them (she arrived at the same time I did). I've read the Manhattan posts and knew LT would be from 800 (perhaps cheaper for an older Flipper) and up. I wanted something young, fresh, and I set my limit at 1200.
She said 2500, I offered 800 for LT but she said impossible this early at night. She said maybe if you come back in 3-4 hrs (also described in earlier posts) , more dealing, I turned down drinks, more negotiation, we settled at 2hr for 1000. I made sure upfront that OWO, unlimited sex, massage, the whole shabang was included.
2 minute walk back to the hotel, both showered, down to business at 9. 50pm. FANTASTIC. 3 pops of which 2 CIM (I don't think she liked it but she was a trooper, borrowed my toothpaste really quick). GFE, great kisser, soft, soft, skin, tight, no fake sounds what so ever wow, great massage in between sessions. As I said fantastic time.
2 hrs later she left my room, it took her about 20 minutes to clean up, put make-up on, get dressed etc
I fell a sleep within in 10 minutes, woke up at 7. 30 next morning. Energized and ready for work! Looking back – perhaps I over-paid but I felt like I got 'LT value' for money.
Is there a better way beat a jet-lag I wonder?
/Peter
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1158827]"I tried Bodi once but didn't like to have a camera in front of my head."
You're on camera at Bodi? Is this known for sure? If so. What is done with the footage? [/QUOTE]What? There are cameras at Bodi? Where?
Since Hailang (Waves) is owned by the same people who own Bodi, chances are there are also cameras at Waves if you found cameras at Bodi.
This is one helluva golden rule, my fellow mongers.
I'm a frequent visit of this one girl at Hailang, and have established a good rapport with her. I arrived in SH on the 19th of this month, booked 3 nights at the former Pudong Sofitel, now it's called the Oriental Jinjiang Hotel. Called her a few days in advance and asked her to meet me there. She's been out of work since the crackdown began. The first night was beyond terrific. I gave her a very very long DATY, which she enjoyed. The sex was incredible as well. For her, it's no work no sex. That night was her first sex in 2 weeks. Holy cow, she was moaning so loud that I was so afraid that the neighbors would hear her and call the cops on us. My room was right by the elevator bank, ya know. We spent a wonderful 4 hours together then I asked her to stay for the night. Thought she would say yes, but to my surprise she refused and mentioned something about a friend of hers had just quit Hailang and must take her to the airport in the morning. Ok, fine. How about some room service since we've been fucking each other for the past 4 hours. Her eyes almost popped out as she opened the menu. Everything was so expensive. I said it was ok, she could order whatever she wanted. Surprisingly she ordered the cheapest item on the menu, a fruit platter for 48RMB. She left afterwards. I stopped her as she was walking out and handed her 1500 RMB. After a few seconds of hesitation, she took the money and left.
The next morning I texted her and said that I would like to see her again that night. To my surprise, she didn't reply until almost 9pm saying that she was on her way to me. At that time I was just about to receive my HE from #12 at my favorite massage parlor. Being a little annoyed with her late reply, I turned off my phone. When I turned my phone back on a little while later, her text had already came through saying that since I turned my phone off, she went back home. Oh well, I spent another lonely night in that hotel room, very regrettful and annoyed.
Texted her again in the morning saying wanting to see her again that night, but won't return until late. She left me a message that afternoon stating that if for any reason I couldn't make it back to the hotel, I should call her. I texted her back with a positive reply then she said to text her when I'm done with my stuff. Cool, all settled then. So I went on about my business that day, and attened to my cousin's wedding that night. Texted her at 830pm saying that I was on my way back to the hotel. Her reply shocked me. She said she was sick so couldn't make it. Was it a lie or was she really sick? You decide. We exchanged a few text messages. She said she likes me and enjoys spending time with me and therefore she didn't quote a price for her visit the night before, and she cared about me so she ordered an inexpensive item from the menu. The reason she took the money was because she needed it to pay the rent. A few times she mentioned liking me and asked if I would go visit her hometown with her after she quit Hailang. Being boozed up at my cousin's wedding and the fact that my little guy was taking charge at the time, I was stupid enough to break rule #1, Never fall in love with a working girl. I texted her back saying I like her too and would like to start a relationship. No sooner than it started, her text messages stopped. She hasn't replied ever since. I'm puzzled. What do you guys think?
I went back to Hailang today but it was closed due to the raids. Tomorrow is my last day in SH. Oh well, whatever. Lesson learned. Never ever ever fall in love with a working girl. Any thoughts, please share.
[QUOTE=Peterkn; 1158847]First time at Manhattan:
. Is there a better way beat a jet-lag I wonder?
/Peter[/QUOTE]Do not sleep during the first half of your flight. Do whatever you can to fight the urge. Sleep during the second half. You'll feel a lot better. I'm a flight crew. My seniority is too junior to let me hold second break, so I always feel tired after we landed.
I have tried bodi and found one or two good looking girls. Never felt a camera over me. Tried to locate waves and could not. Came back and called few escorts. As expected ugly girls and rejected 3 of them. At about 23 hrs one escort was just ok but she was in such a hurry. Anyway I banged her and finished the search that day. Will try waves next time but can anyone post the address?
I was thinking of going to bodi again but this camera thought is bugging me!
[QUOTE=Carage; 1158866]What? There are cameras at Bodi? Where?
Since Hailang (Waves) is owned by the same people who own Bodi, chances are there are also cameras at Waves if you found cameras at Bodi. [/QUOTE]
Tonight finally had some time for playing. We called Sacrosa, Waves, and Bodi, and all said they were closed today for one reason or another! After dinner we walked to 999 and it was dead! Front door was wide open and an older man standing there said "we are fixing the showers tonight! Closed". Hmmmmm.
APAC Man
I went over to waves tonight, but found that it was closed today. Grabbed a taxi over to the chengjiaqiao area. It was 1:00am when I got over there. Most of the places were either closed today or closed at this time, but a couple places far in the back were still going. Usually BBS girls are into providing the least amount of service possible and upselling anything interesting, but I got lucky. She wasn't too hot, but she was 20 yrs and had a cute face. BBBJ, lots of it, mish, then talked for about 20 minutes after. I think I was there for 45 minutes. Damage 200.
Usually the tip for girls to sit and drink with you in shanghai is 300, other places in the south is only 200. I have never taken out from here but if your slick it could be free. 2000 is way to much, you can go to KTV and party with girls in prom dresses.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1158759]Well anyone have a ballmark idea? They are so hot I think 2000rmb would be a reasonable 'starting' price.[/QUOTE]
And some of us admire your falling in love. Just fall into lust the next time and the next time and the next time, etc. Falling into lust is about the same as falling in love. But the sex is better, much better. You can appreciate the fucking before during and after. There is another really good fucking Chinese girl who can help you. Keep looking.
[QUOTE=Iahewr; 1158867]This is one helluva golden rule, my fellow mongers.
I'm a frequent visit of this one girl at Hailang, and have established a good rapport with her. I arrived in SH on the 19th of this month, booked 3 nights at the former Pudong Sofitel, now it's called the Oriental Jinjiang Hotel. Called her a few days in advance and asked her to meet me there. She's been out of work since the crackdown began. The first night was beyond terrific. I gave her a very very long DATY, which she enjoyed. The sex was incredible as well. For her, it's no work no sex. That night was her first sex in 2 weeks. Holy cow, she was moaning so loud that I was so afraid that the neighbors would hear her and call the cops on us. My room was right by the elevator bank, ya know. We spent a wonderful 4 hours together then I asked her to stay for the night. Thought she would say yes, but to my surprise she refused and mentioned something about a friend of hers had just quit Hailang and must take her to the airport in the morning. Ok, fine. How about some room service since we've been fucking each other for the past 4 hours. Her eyes almost popped out as she opened the menu. Everything was so expensive. I said it was ok, she could order whatever she wanted. Surprisingly she ordered the cheapest item on the menu, a fruit platter for 48RMB. She left afterwards. I stopped her as she was walking out and handed her 1500 RMB. After a few seconds of hesitation, she took the money and left.
The next morning I texted her and said that I would like to see her again that night. To my surprise, she didn't reply until almost 9pm saying that she was on her way to me. At that time I was just about to receive my HE from #12 at my favorite massage parlor. Being a little annoyed with her late reply, I turned off my phone. When I turned my phone back on a little while later, her text had already came through saying that since I turned my phone off, she went back home. Oh well, I spent another lonely night in that hotel room, very regrettful and annoyed.
Texted her again in the morning saying wanting to see her again that night, but won't return until late. She left me a message that afternoon stating that if for any reason I couldn't make it back to the hotel, I should call her. I texted her back with a positive reply then she said to text her when I'm done with my stuff. Cool, all settled then. So I went on about my business that day, and attened to my cousin's wedding that night. Texted her at 830pm saying that I was on my way back to the hotel. Her reply shocked me. She said she was sick so couldn't make it. Was it a lie or was she really sick? You decide. We exchanged a few text messages. She said she likes me and enjoys spending time with me and therefore she didn't quote a price for her visit the night before, and she cared about me so she ordered an inexpensive item from the menu. The reason she took the money was because she needed it to pay the rent. A few times she mentioned liking me and asked if I would go visit her hometown with her after she quit Hailang. Being boozed up at my cousin's wedding and the fact that my little guy was taking charge at the time, I was stupid enough to break rule #1, Never fall in love with a working girl. I texted her back saying I like her too and would like to start a relationship. No sooner than it started, her text messages stopped. She hasn't replied ever since. I'm puzzled. What do you guys think?
I went back to Hailang today but it was closed due to the raids. Tomorrow is my last day in SH. Oh well, whatever. Lesson learned. Never ever ever fall in love with a working girl. Any thoughts, please share.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Apac Man; 1158882]Tonight finally had some time for playing. We called Sacrosa, Waves, and Bodi, and all said they were closed today for one reason or another! After dinner we walked to 999 and it was dead! Front door was wide open and an older man standing there said "we are fixing the showers tonight! Closed". Hmmmmm.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]And tonight they all were open but we did not get out of work until 10, that is half an hour ago, and by then no one felt like going to a spa. Maybe tomorrow. Would Friday night be too busy?
Be Safe,
APAC Man
Well, it depends.
I would say rule 0 is not to get married. So, as long as you follow rule 0, you can skip rule 1 in most cases. I know a lot of guys who keep 1 or 2 gals on the side, like pay their rent and provide spending money for 1-1. 5 years and rotate the girl out once he had his fill with her. (great for booty calls) Hey, these guys were in love, but as long as you keep mongering you will find new love and then move on. If you just fall in love and don't go out anymore. You will have a much greater chance of violating rule 0 and rule 1.
My 2 cents.
GL.
[QUOTE=Iahewr; 1158867]This is one helluva golden rule, my fellow mongers.
I'm a frequent visit of this one girl at Hailang, and have established a good rapport with her. I arrived in SH on the 19th of this month, booked 3 nights at the former Pudong Sofitel, now it's called the Oriental Jinjiang Hotel. Called her a few days in advance and asked her to meet me there. She's been out of work since the crackdown began. The first night was beyond terrific. I gave her a very very long DATY, which she enjoyed. The sex was incredible as well. For her, it's no work no sex. That night was her first sex in 2 weeks. Holy cow, she was moaning so loud that I was so afraid that the neighbors would hear her and call the cops on us. My room was right by the elevator bank, ya know. We spent a wonderful 4 hours together then I asked her to stay for the night. Thought she would say yes, but to my surprise she refused and mentioned something about a friend of hers had just quit Hailang and must take her to the airport in the morning. Ok, fine. How about some room service since we've been fucking each other for the past 4 hours. Her eyes almost popped out as she opened the menu. Everything was so expensive. I said it was ok, she could order whatever she wanted. Surprisingly she ordered the cheapest item on the menu, a fruit platter for 48RMB. She left afterwards. I stopped her as she was walking out and handed her 1500 RMB. After a few seconds of hesitation, she took the money and left.
The next morning I texted her and said that I would like to see her again that night. To my surprise, she didn't reply until almost 9pm saying that she was on her way to me. At that time I was just about to receive my HE from #12 at my favorite massage parlor. Being a little annoyed with her late reply, I turned off my phone. When I turned my phone back on a little while later, her text had already came through saying that since I turned my phone off, she went back home. Oh well, I spent another lonely night in that hotel room, very regrettful and annoyed.
Texted her again in the morning saying wanting to see her again that night, but won't return until late. She left me a message that afternoon stating that if for any reason I couldn't make it back to the hotel, I should call her. I texted her back with a positive reply then she said to text her when I'm done with my stuff. Cool, all settled then. So I went on about my business that day, and attened to my cousin's wedding that night. Texted her at 830pm saying that I was on my way back to the hotel. Her reply shocked me. She said she was sick so couldn't make it. Was it a lie or was she really sick? You decide. We exchanged a few text messages. She said she likes me and enjoys spending time with me and therefore she didn't quote a price for her visit the night before, and she cared about me so she ordered an inexpensive item from the menu. The reason she took the money was because she needed it to pay the rent. A few times she mentioned liking me and asked if I would go visit her hometown with her after she quit Hailang. Being boozed up at my cousin's wedding and the fact that my little guy was taking charge at the time, I was stupid enough to break rule #1, Never fall in love with a working girl. I texted her back saying I like her too and would like to start a relationship. No sooner than it started, her text messages stopped. She hasn't replied ever since. I'm puzzled. What do you guys think?
I went back to Hailang today but it was closed due to the raids. Tomorrow is my last day in SH. Oh well, whatever. Lesson learned. Never ever ever fall in love with a working girl. Any thoughts, please share.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Apac Man; 1158882]Tonight finally had some time for playing. We called Sacrosa, Waves, and Bodi, and all said they were closed today for one reason or another! After dinner we walked to 999 and it was dead! Front door was wide open and an older man standing there said "we are fixing the showers tonight! Closed". Hmmmmm.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]You could also try Southern or Soup Island (Tang Dao) both affiliated with Bodi / Waves / 999.
Last year around this time it was also on a night like this which I was denied entry into 999. The manager was standing in front of the door and told me the water heater is not working (his expression suggests that is not the real reason, it seems more like he was WAITING for someone). He first suggested me to go to Southern, I replied Southern is too far from home. Then he went in and got me a card with Bodi's address on it, that is how I got to know Bodi.
Do you know of any good and cheap hotels for taking friends (hourly or for one night)?
I'm looking for both cheap and clean hostels, I live here and just want casual places. Preferably, around jingan district.
Maybe I'm asking for impossible thought.
[QUOTE=Iahewr; 1158867]I stopped her as she was walking out and handed her 1500 RMB. After a few seconds of hesitation, she took the money and left.[/QUOTE]Well, the way I read your report, you might have made a mistake in timing. She seems to have come to you for a good time for herself. Maybe she really liked you, who knows. Would you pay your GF for sex? Nobody does. You mentioned she's no WG at the moment anymore, but you treated her as a w. Hore by paying her. If you'd taken her as a freebie, you might be in love now. And could have sponsored her rent, or buy her stuff, as a GF. Probably more expensive than a WG, as we all know.
[QUOTE=Disch; 1159322]Well, it depends.
I would say rule 0 is not to get married. So, as long as you follow rule 0, you can skip rule 1 in most cases. I know a lot of guys who keep 1 or 2 gals on the side, like pay their rent and provide spending money for 1-1. 5 years and rotate the girl out once he had his fill with her. (great for booty calls) Hey, these guys were in love, but as long as you keep mongering you will find new love and then move on. If you just fall in love and don't go out anymore. You will have a much greater chance of violating rule 0 and rule 1.
My 2 cents.
GL.[/QUOTE]I would love to come to this type of arrangement (booty call with frequent girl but she knows she's in for the money and I'm defenitively not marrying her. My hope is that this leads to very little drama). Do you know how much did they pay on average for the gal? Reading the Shenzhen forum it seems someone paid 4000 RMB a month for a ex KTV girl.
Long time reader, first time poster! Thanks for all the great tips. Arrived in Shanghai last week and have been thoroughly enjoying myself.
Bodi:
First trip to Sauna was Bodi last Sunday afternoon. Boy was I sweating bullets (first time going to a sauna anywhere) and had second thoughts more than once about turning back. I'm glad I didn't! Followed the directions posted on the forum, although if you get off at the Children's hospital it's quite a long walk 20 min or so.
After I arrived, I was a stuttering idiot. I'm Chinese-american, fluent in Chinese but as soon as I walked in, the receptionist looked very taken aback and immediately asked "&20320; &26159; &21738; &20799; &30340; &20154;?". I responded "American". Immediately the demeanor changed and the staff became very welcoming. Changed, showered, was brought to the waiting area downstairs with a two other Chinese guys and the staff said they would help "&23433; &25490; ' ("arrange") in a little bit. Still feeling nervous at this point BUT I have to say, Bodi is really 'posh' and the lights are comfortably dimmed, which helps. After about five minutes or so, was brought with the other guys to the lineup down the hall.
15-20 girls walked out, standing essentially right in front of you. It was a bit awkward as I hadn't done this before. Out of 15-20, I would say 5-10 are in the 6-7 range. 5 in the 7-8 range, and there was maybe like only 1 or 2 that looked drop dead gorgeous. I'm a titties guy myself, so I picked a girl with a nice pair of knockers (forgot her number).
I *really* lucked out (will report less pleasing experiences at Hailang later). She took me upstairs to the rooms and I have to say, Bodi has some awesome facilities (again, I would say better than Hailang). She was very friendly, calling me "&23453; &36125; ' (baby) in a fun way that made things go smoothly, and asked me to rest on the bed while she set up the massage bed in the shower area. Went in. Made me sit on that chair apparatus where she gave my little guy a really nice 'cleaning' and proceeded to stick it in her mouth for a brief BBBJ. I was still a bit. 'shy' if you will, and refrained from groping her.
Massage bed was awesome. She was extremely enthusiastic, slipping, sliding all over. At one point she was giving me a tit-job, and afterwards she straddled my little guy (no condom) and started sliding front and back all over him while sucking on my toe. I was too busy enjoying myself but after about a minute or so she turns around naughtily and proclaims,"It almost slipped in!".
Back to bed, standard everything that's been described. I played with her pussy but refrained from sticking my fingers in. Didn't want to hurt her unnecessarily. She let me go to town on her knockers. It was like a lap dance except you fully get to partake in the action. BBBJ was good, enthusiastic, but not terribly long (swiveling motion was nice). She did do AR on me (first time) , and while it wasn't bad, I prolly won't be doing it again.
She put condom on me, asked whether I wanted to be on top or bottom, I chose top. Oh man, she was tight! Watching yourself in the mirror doing the deed is an awesome experience. Proceeded to do her in about 5 different positions for a solid 30 minutes (and I still could've gone longer). She was very enthusiastic, but genuinely very tired so I made an effort to finish in mish while sucking on her goodies. Tried to DFK through but she did this weird thing in which she sticks her tongue out of her mouth but refuses to let my tongue inside her mouth (I'm not sure whether this is semi-refusing to kiss, or whether she just doesn't know how to DFK). After the deed, back to shower, and chatted for a bit before leaving (about 65-70minutes total).
Key information gleaned:
I speak fluent Chinese so we got a pretty good rapport going so she told me some interesting stuff.
*They get 6 days off a month. (I was starting to feel kinda terrible here)
*They make 60, 000. 80, 000 RMB per month! Apparently, they get a 350rmb cut. 6-8 customers a day. (not feeling that terrible anymore, free markets!)
*If you're non-ethnically Chinese, they tell the girls in the lineup before hand so those who don't want to service non-Chinese have a chance to step out of line.
*Apparently most guys finish within 10 minutes.
A few questions guys about my experiences:
1) Are multiple pops allowed? Say I finished quickly in 45min, can I go again for another 45min?
2) Has anyone encountered any WG's in Shanghai willing to do anal? I've always wanted to try.
3) Say I finish in 60 minutes. Am I allowed to stay with the girl for the entire 30 min just chatting / playing with her? Or must I leave?
Thanks all! Will post Hailang info later. But in short. Worse facilities (but still good) , location is more convenient (but made me feel a bit edgy since it was in a much more populated area) , lineup was not as good IMO (but I think this depends on time of day) , girl I had at Hailang was VASTLY less service-oriented but she was witty and snarky in a fun way. Got her number, going sight-seeing with her Saturday.
[QUOTE=Rastalo;1159530]I would love to come to this type of arrangement (booty call with frequent girl but she knows she's in for the money and I'm defenitively not marrying her. My hope is that this leads to very little drama). Do you know how much did they pay on average for the gal? Reading the Shenzhen forum it seems someone paid 4000 RMB a month for a ex KTV girl.[/QUOTE]It depends on what type of girl you get and in what city. In shanghai, I am assuming she is renting a place with a friend so she maybe paying 700-3000+ for rent. If its a KTV girl, you have to think that she works 3-6 nights so lets say they make on average 1500-3000+ a week is she is average to hot. She will make anywhere from 6000 to 12k a month less fees to mama and to the club. Now this is for a hottie, who has clients 3-5 nights a week. So, with that in mind, you are looking to pay anywhere from 6000-12000 for a girl who HAS some chemistry with you. If she is in it for the money look for the higher end PLUS what ever she thinks she can squeeze from you.
If its a foot massage girl, she only gets about 30-60 per massage which is 60-120mins. Lets say she is average to a hottie, she will be very busy for a 10-12 hour shift. So, she will earn 600. 1200 a day. Most impt with these girls is you go frequently and ask for her number, she will get a bit more be / see of that. Strike a conversation and as long as she agrees to go out with you once, you are almost in. Treat her nice and buy her some stuff and offer to pay for her rent. Now with that say, my friends has been doing this with these type of girls for years; pay the rent; give her some spending money and she will be available to you to access almost on demand. My friends are in Guangzhou area and they pay her 2k + the rent. This will depend on you connection with her.
This is why almost all my friends has multiple phones! LOL.
And remember rule # 0, do not get married.
[QUOTE=Disch; 1159652]If she is in it for the money look for the higher end PLUS what ever she thinks she can squeeze from you.
And remember rule # 0, do not get married. [/QUOTE]I concur with the above statement. Having just finished an intense long term relationship with a WG from another part of the world, I would have to generally agree that its preferable to keep it to pay for play. Taking a WG of the market to be her "boyfriend" is typically a ridiculous proposition, for obvious reasons, particularly if you don't live locally. These WG will typically require what they would have made and in most parts of the world starts at $1000 USD / month to several grand / month. But a relationship that starts PFP is typically about the money and they will try to extract what they think they can as there is a typical fear that as a monger, you will soon lose interest. Typically has a bad ending.
And rule number 0a: Never fall too much in love with a working girl especially when its still pay for play.
BTW. I'm active on another board, but traveling to Shanghai 6/16 to 6/26. Don't know if this is the place, but I'd love to meet up with anyone else who might be in town. I'm an experienced adventurous monger and likely will stay some at Bodi and possibly Riverview? I may hit some evening action at Manhattan's. Don't know about BBS, because I don't speak mandarin, but may give it a shot. I'm down for a lot of partying and hope to find some good action.
Thanks for all the excellent and informative posts.
Motel 168. I don't know if all have short time rates but some do. One of you has to check in and bring the other up. Elevator sometimes needs the room card to go up. Down works without room card.
[QUOTE=JeromeChanel; 1159452]Do you know of any good and cheap hotels for taking friends (hourly or for one night)?
I'm looking for both cheap and clean hostels, I live here and just want casual places. Preferably, around jingan district.
Maybe I'm asking for impossible thought.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rastalo;1159530]I would love to come to this type of arrangement (booty call with frequent girl but she knows she's in for the money and I'm defenitively not marrying her. My hope is that this leads to very little drama). Do you know how much did they pay on average for the gal? Reading the Shenzhen forum it seems someone paid 4000 RMB a month for a ex KTV girl.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, I strongly recommend the following book:
Shanghai girls: Uncensored and Unsentimental, How to Marry Up and Stay There. By Lan Lan as told to Mina Hanbury-Tenison (available on Amazon in Kindle format)
Some points from the book on the motivations of a Shanghai Girl (read China) :
1. Be Un-sentimenal (love is not Charity)
2. Note that you are probably the best thing that has ever happened to him. Use it.
3. Tips on how to find that Starter Boy freind and / or Starter Husband and how to then move on and marry up. Shanghai girls take it one husband at a time.
4. Youth + Beauty = Money.
5. Sex and how to use it: Sexual flexibility goes far, play up to fanatasies, be a hawk in bed.
6. Think property and highly liquid assets. Dinner and flowers are nice but hard assets count in the end.
7. Leveraging up.
Read and be forewarned.
Umm why the sudden focus on what is basically modern day slavery? You guys are talking about 'owning' a girl and how much it would cost. Well you might have a car, a stable career, and be able to offer her more money than she could earn on her own. But, you are definetely not the best thing to happen to her.
Think about it, is it natural for a fat old white guy to 'own' a young Chinese girl? No, and the most unatural thing about it is you. Look in the mirror. There's a line between regular prostituion and what amounts to basically travelling to lesser developed nations for the sole purpose of aquiring a girl who will be greatful given how rich you are compared to her. I mean, why not a trip to Sierra leone, you can probably buy a girl there for 100 dollars for a year and she'll suck your nuts all day and night if you want. Seriously, isn't there some kind of line that you guys suddenly cross and say to yourself
'wow, I really gew up to be a low life heartless pos. '
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1158758]I posted about being in such a predicament. If you are not a wussy and are well built and know how to fight then just don't let them intimidate you. Even the pla trained guys can't fight in a real brawl. If 6 of these 'thugs' walk into your room, then only if they have knifes or a gun will the force equation be unbalanced against your favour.[/QUOTE]So this man went from "I'm not kidding when I tell you I'm actually a virgin, in part due to my extreme shyness around Women" to John Wayne in a few short weeks? I'm afraid your approach could lead you to a late night swim in the Huangpu. Remember, we are visitors here, we do not make the rules. (Usually we don't even know if there are any rules!)
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1159731]Umm why the sudden focus on what is basically modern day slavery? You guys are talking about 'owning' a girl and how much it would cost. Well you might have a car, a stable career, and be able to offer her more money than she could earn on her own. But, you are definetely not the best thing to happen to her.
Think about it, is it natural for a fat old white guy to 'own' a young Chinese girl? No, and the most unatural thing about it is you. Look in the mirror. There's a line between regular prostituion and what amounts to basically travelling to lesser developed nations for the sole purpose of aquiring a girl who will be greatful given how rich you are compared to her. I mean, why not a trip to Sierra leone, you can probably buy a girl there for 100 dollars for a year and she'll suck your nuts all day and night if you want. Seriously, isn't there some kind of line that you guys suddenly cross and say to yourself
'wow, I really gew up to be a low life heartless pos. '[/QUOTE]Is there something you want to share with us? Are you, perhaps a member of the fair sex, with a point to make?
[QUOTE=Thekraz; 1159707]Gentlemen, I strongly recommend the following book:
Shanghai girls: Uncensored and Unsentimental, How to Marry Up and Stay There. By Lan Lan as told to Mina Hanbury-Tenison (available on Amazon in Kindle format)
Some points from the book on the motivations of a Shanghai Girl (read China) :
1. Be Un-sentimenal (love is not Charity).
7. Leveraging up.
Read and be forewarned. [/QUOTE]This book looks really good! Ha! Ha!
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1159731]Umm why the sudden focus on what is basically modern day slavery? You guys are talking about 'owning' a girl and how much it would cost. Well you might have a car, a stable career, and be able to offer her more money than she could earn on her own. But, you are definetely not the best thing to happen to her.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ringer5;1159750]Is there something you want to share with us? Are you, perhaps a member of the fair sex, with a point to make?[/QUOTE]I'm thinking we should get back on topic.
[QUOTE=Truazn532; 1159625]*They get 6 days off a month. (I was starting to feel kinda terrible here)
*They make 60, 000. 80, 000 RMB per month! Apparently, they get a 350rmb cut. 6-8 customers a day. (not feeling that terrible anymore, free markets!)[/QUOTE]Whoww. RMB 80, 000 p / m that's an enormous amount, but somehow I can not believe they serve 6-8 clients per day. Each session last 60-70 min, after that the girls need to recuperate and redo hair / makeup etc, then they need to go to the line up and wait to be selected again. Say each 'total' round takes 2 hrs, then 8 rounds takes 16 hours and they only open from 11 am to 2 pm (I recall) , so max 15 hours. Hmmm, perhaps it is possible but seems stretched. If they really do 8 clients a day then I do not want to be nr 8, the lovely girl will be just too tired to serve well. But anyhow, RMB 80, 000 puts things in another perspective, this is a top level income for a 20 year old gal! No wonder they are willing to AR all these guys each day, this always surprised me, as well as all the guys who after having had their AR want to DFK the girls, but each his favorite dish, so please take no offense.
Something else, we have read about the Bodi hidden video rumour, any hard facts on this? Also did anyone ever try to make a video themselves. Last week I took some pictures. With consent of the girl. Of her pretty legs and feet, but not the whole body. A nice memory!
[QUOTE=Ringer5;1159750]Is there something you want to share with us? Are you, perhaps a member of the fair sex, with a point to make?[/QUOTE]I agree.
WTF are you going on about Smirnoff? Whether someone wants to pay a girl for an hour or a month, what's the difference? It's an agreement made between two consenting adults. Slavery would be if one of the parties didn't have a choice.
It seems that you are on here to prove to all of us how studly and bad ass you are. Good for you. Guess what? Nobody cares.
[QUOTE=LaowaiForChina;1159500]Well, the way I read your report, you might have made a mistake in timing. She seems to have come to you for a good time for herself. Maybe she really liked you, who knows. Would you pay your GF for sex? Nobody does. You mentioned she's no WG at the moment anymore, but you treated her as a w. Hore by paying her. If you'd taken her as a freebie, you might be in love now. And could have sponsored her rent, or buy her stuff, as a GF. Probably more expensive than a WG, as we all know.[/QUOTE]I'm sure that this doesn't need to be said, but just in case.
I travel to China a few times per year, and I have some phone numbers and emails that I can contact to line up some punting before arriving with girls I've known from before.
Some of the girls I know have been put up by a generous foreigner as exclusive. This has NEVER resulted in my being told they can't come by the hotel for a couple of hours. At worst it's been: My "boyfriend" doesn't leave for work until 10 so I can't leave here until after that. Just FYI
By the way Mr. Vodka. Where are you from.
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen,
How about we keep this forum to Shanghai actual reports and move the random off topic discussions to "China Women. Opinions and Advice" or "Living in China". Appreciate your help.
[QUOTE=JeromeChanel; 1159452]Do you know of any good and cheap hotels for taking friends (hourly or for one night)?
I'm looking for both cheap and clean hostels, I live here and just want casual places. Preferably, around jingan district.
Maybe I'm asking for impossible thought. [/QUOTE]Google GreenTree Inns. They have a 6hr rate <RMB200. Staff usually doesn't speak English though. They will take a RMB300 deposit and refund the diff when you check out. Don't forget your passport.
[QUOTE=Waldeck2;1159150]And some of us admire your falling in love. Just fall into lust the next time and the next time and the next time, etc. Falling into lust is about the same as falling in love. But the sex is better, much better. You can appreciate the fucking before during and after. There is another really good fucking Chinese girl who can help you. Keep looking.[/QUOTE]Well, screw her. I have my sight on the next two targets. They are cousins from Hailang. This time I'll just stick to Pay per Fuck.
Visited Southern Saturday around 7. Near Lianhua Road Metro stop. No waiting to get to the fishbowl, and plenty of selection. Picked #808. While we were in the shower, she suggested a 2 girl deal. I decided to go for it. I've never had 2 at once before. I have no regrets. Wow! #33 showed up quickly and joined the fun. Both girls had nice, full boobs and knew how to use them. The 2-girl soapy was out of this world! They claimed to be sisters from Sichuan. 22 and 24 years old, not sure I believe it, but they got along together great. The best part about it was the second girl. 33, was far more into it than the first. With her, the older one, it was a GFE. 808 was more typical, fun, but emotionally more distant. Two girls, multiple positions, both very wet and enjoyed digits (gently) at the same time.
Downside: While we cuddled, waiting for the clock to run out, they mostly gossiped with each other, enjoying the cuddle but almost like I wasn't there. Total damage: 1300.
[QUOTE=Mike921;1160058]Google GreenTree Inns. They have a 6hr rate <RMB200. Staff usually doesn't speak English though. They will take a RMB300 deposit and refund the diff when you check out. Don't forget your passport.[/QUOTE]While I'm not sure if they offer this in all Hantings (or whether it's a one off thing) , I paid 100 yuan for 4 hours at Hanting Panyu lu.
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai; 1160131]Visited Southern Saturday around 7. . .They claimed to be sisters from Sichuan. 22 and 24 years old, not sure I believe it, but they got along together great.
Downside: While we cuddled, waiting for the clock to run out, they mostly gossiped with each other, enjoying the cuddle but almost like I wasn't there. Total damage: 1300. [/QUOTE]It is quite usual in Asia to' hear the "sisters" story. It mainly describes very close friends. No parental links at all.
[QUOTE=Changlelu;1159874]Whoww. RMB 80, 000 p / m that's an enormous amount, but somehow I can not believe they serve 6-8 clients per day.[/QUOTE]The average HJ mp girl earns 10-15k from at best, two clients a day, spending 80% of her time in the back room cross stitching or knitting!
If guys are waiting for the girls, the turn around must be pdq. Go figure, I believe it.
[QUOTE=Changlelu;1159874]Whoww. RMB 80, 000 p / m that's an enormous amount, but somehow I can not believe they serve 6-8 clients per day.[/QUOTE]Same here. Anyone can confirm or deny those numbers? My gut feeling is they are inflated.
[QUOTE=Stegram; 1159907]I agree.
WTF are you going on about Smirnoff? Whether someone wants to pay a girl for an hour or a month, what's the difference? It's an agreement made between two consenting adults. Slavery would be if one of the parties didn't have a choice.
It seems that you are on here to prove to all of us how studly and bad ass you are. Good for you. Guess what? Nobody cares. [/QUOTE]I'm on here to learn and get first hand intel on the scene in Shanghai. I know how to handle myself, and I don't like letting people take advantage of me or disrespect me. That applies anywhere I go. I won't really try hard to argue with you, because I'd also rather read reports than some debate about morals etc. But let me just say, the girls who are desperate enough to allow themselves to be 'bought' by a foreigner don't really have a choice, unless starving to death is a choice?
I'm from a country with a high incidence of alcoholism and extreme violence (mostly knifes) you can guess.
Oh, and I've been here exactly 2 months and I have not had sex with anyone.
You keep poke'and the skunk and he'll keep [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]'and in this thread. Enough.
The guy who wrote the Karma Sutra was a virgin. Paradox? Well, we who have not tried the forbidden fruit think about it more than those who have. Hence, we have a more intellectual approach than you guys who just care about 'is the pussy hairy or not'. So what if I am a virgin, I know more than most of you guys about sex, and I am entitled to post here.
I cannot go to a spa because I don't like the idea of showering and putting on their special clothes, all in the company of other guys. I can't do craigslist because they are all ugly and up sell. If anyone has the qq or phone number of a genuinely cute, reliable girl then pm me.
[QUOTE=Bxbxbx; 1156311]Barring the previously stated con's about Sacrosa's limited facilities, I will say that the choice I made the other day, #176, 20 years old from Sichuan with a cute body, nice breasts, great hair and a tiny tummy, was an amazing experience. All pro's. Here's the run-down of my surprisingly long 2 hour stay:
- Warm up with a great massage.
- Move to an extended cat bath, including having me stand and teabag her mouth, licking under the carriage.
- HJ while kissing, very surprised she was into that.
- Best BBBJ I've had in a long, long time. This girl was unreal with the way she moved her head.
- Nice tight pussy, about 20 minutes sex in 4 positions, including reverse cowgirl (her idea)
- Rim / HJ combo to make me cum.
- Cuddling, still playing with each other, chit-chat.
- I massage her, she shows me she has a sore neck from doing yoga, shows me some poses.
- I compliment her BJ, she happily gives me another before we go.
Despite the shabby location, possibly the best girl I've ever been to. Absolutely will go back. [/QUOTE]Following your enthusiastic report, I wanted to try #176 of Sacrosa as well. When I saw her I double checked the number on her dress because I was already suspicious since she doesn't look at all like your description. In the room she dropped her dress and I immediately decided to send her back. She confirmed that she is neither from Sichuan nor does she know any foreigner who could possibly have recommended her. I excused many times and told her I that I made a mistake with numbers. She said its ok for you but its certainly embarrassing for all participants. I could fortunately change to another girl. So your Sichuan girl is definitely not #176. I appreciate all fellows here only to mention the girls working number if they are sure it is correct.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1160286]Same here. Anyone can confirm or deny those numbers? My gut feeling is they are inflated.[/QUOTE]I don't know about the sauna girls, but I'm good friends with an MP girl. Her daily range of clients is between 4 and 6. She says she averages about 7000 RMB a month.
[QUOTE=Vincent P;1160347]Following your enthusiastic report, I wanted to try #176 of Sacrosa as well. When I saw her I double checked the number on her dress because I was already suspicious since she doesn't look at all like your description. In the room she dropped her dress and I immediately decided to send her back. She confirmed that she is neither from Sichuan nor does she know any foreigner who could possibly have recommended her. I excused many times and told her I that I made a mistake with numbers. She said its ok for you but its certainly embarrassing for all participants. I could fortunately change to another girl. So your Sichuan girl is definitely not #176. I appreciate all fellows here only to mention the girls working number if they are sure it is correct.[/QUOTE]I also tried this one out based on the review. I was also surprised because the girl was a short chubby thing. Hardly even cute like some chubby girls are. I was curious though so I let it go on. She spent a LOT of time on her massages. The AR was pretty lengthy and she spent generous amounts of time at BBBJ as well, but the skills were only typical. I don't even remember what position we had the main event in.
Hi again,
I went to Manhattan again earlier this week. Got there around midnight and the place was packed with girls (Viet, Flipper, Thai). I decided to try an LT / over night.
I ended up bringing a sexy little Thai (mid-late 20's) with me back to the hotel. We had agreed 800 rmb for the whole night with unlimited sex.
My question to you guys out there is if (at Manhattan)
* "over-night" means 2 pops and then sleeping together with no more sex, and unless you tip another couple of 100 there will be no more included? She asked for "taxi money" etc. I gave her nothing.
* you pay upfront or in the morning (I paid upfront. No bargaining power to get e. G. A morning CIM)
Thanks,
Peter
Interesting development. I was also at Sarcosa asking for 176 (last week) , and in my case they said that there was no number 176! My Chinese is limited, but understood that they did not have "meiyou". Could be that I said the # incorrectly in Mandarin.
Figured it might be 276? But they said she was resting.
Anyhow. I went into battle anyway, hoping that I might luck out. It started out really bad, as I was shown a line-up of ONLY 1 girl! This could have been fine if I liked the girl, but I did not, and it felt quite bad telling the ushers that I wanted to look at more. At least they could have lined up two, this way the girl got singled out and lost face perhaps.
So back in the waiting room for about 5 mins, this time when I comeout the lineup had increased. 5-6 girls (and awkardly enough the girl from before is in the line-up again). Anyhow, found #225, which looked fit, with very tight body, ok face.
As soon as I picked her, she sent some strange wibes. Gasped and looked a little enoyed. But when we reached the room she loosened up.
Usual events. Cat bath, rimming, BBBJ, me fingering, various positions. Two pops. Slam bam, thank you mam.
Face: 7.
Body: 8.
Breast: 7 (most likely implants)
Sex: 7.
Attitude: 7 (needed a little loosening up)
Would repeat, if I did not find someone better in a lineup, but I'll probably not ask for her upfront at the desk.
/D.
[QUOTE=Vincent P;1160347]Following your enthusiastic report, I wanted to try #176 of Sacrosa as well. When I saw her I double checked the number on her dress because I was already suspicious since she doesn't look at all like your description. In the room she dropped her dress and I immediately decided to send her back. She confirmed that she is neither from Sichuan nor does she know any foreigner who could possibly have recommended her. I excused many times and told her I that I made a mistake with numbers. She said its ok for you but its certainly embarrassing for all participants. I could fortunately change to another girl. So your Sichuan girl is definitely not #176. I appreciate all fellows here only to mention the girls working number if they are sure it is correct.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vincent P;1160347]Following your enthusiastic report, I wanted to try #176 of Sacrosa as well. When I saw her I double checked the number on her dress because I was already suspicious since she doesn't look at all like your description. In the room she dropped her dress and I immediately decided to send her back. She confirmed that she is neither from Sichuan nor does she know any foreigner who could possibly have recommended her. I excused many times and told her I that I made a mistake with numbers. She said its ok for you but its certainly embarrassing for all participants. I could fortunately change to another girl. So your Sichuan girl is definitely not #176. I appreciate all fellows here only to mention the girls working number if they are sure it is correct.[/QUOTE]I feel bad for your experience, but I'm 100% positive of that number, because after this report I went back the following day and had a repeat experience. What happened to her since, I can not speak to, but her number is not the problem. However, I do agree, people should be quite sure of their number before they share it.
Went to Bodi tonight looking for my regular girl, but she was absent. Checked out the lineup and picked #592. I had seen her in the lineup several times, but not picked her. She looks a little older than I'd like, but still pleasant on the eyes.
Excellent soapy. Not the best I've ever had but close to it.
Excellent BBBJ with a fairly deep throat. Make sure you spend some time here and encourage her to show you how far down it can go.
Her looks. See picture.
Allows kissing and has an overall great attitude. She's all smiles and loves sex.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1160432]Went to Bodi tonight looking for my regular girl, but she was absent.
Her looks. See picture. [/QUOTE]Whow, she allowed you to take a picture, how did you manage that, I thought it was forbidden.
[QUOTE=Changlelu;1160440]Whow, she allowed you to take a picture, how did you manage that, I thought it was forbidden.[/QUOTE]It doesn't look like she was allowing the picture. It looks like she's pissed and trying to cover up. Great 007 work!
[QUOTE=Stegram;1160481]It doesn't look like she was allowing the picture. It looks like she's pissed and trying to cover up. Great 007 work![/QUOTE]She allowed it. I agree the photo looks strange and thinking back I'm not really sure how that pose came about. Here's another that makes it clear it was ok with her.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1160286]Same here. Anyone can confirm or deny those numbers? My gut feeling is they are inflated.[/QUOTE]A friend of mine was making about 300K RMB a year in Beijing as a manager.
He was feeling pretty good about himself until his self-esteem got demolished by some KTV girl from one of the top clubs.
He learned that the girl only needs to work 6 months a year and makes considerably more than he does, and apparently has a higher taste in fine wine and expensive cars. She also apparently spent considerable time traveling around the world.
So some of the girls can earn really high. Much higher than the average white collar in China.
I did a calculation based on figures I got from some ladies from 999 and Bodi, and concluded they could potentially make more than 30K RMB per month from the sauna. But none of the ladies were willing to confirm or deny my speculative 30K number.
Interesting info Carage. 30 or 40K, I can believe, but 80K sounds like too much for a MP girl. KTV girls are on a different level.
@Smirnoff: I don't understand your point of view. Most hookers welcome the chance to get a long-time employment with the same guy. First they get a guaranteed income so they know they are safe financially, and without having to wait for customers all the time, which is much more relaxing. Second they have sex with one guy instead of 100, again more relaxing, and safer. Third they learn what the guy likes and can make him come quicker. Fourth it is more likely the guy will grow to like them and give them some gifts, take them shopping, maybe even marry them, who knows.
It is not slavery because the girl is always free to stop the agreement and stop seeing the guy at any time.
I've never done anything like this, as a customer, but if I were a pro girl I would certainly prefer to do it this way.
[QUOTE=Carage; 1160511]some of the girls can earn really high. Much higher than the average white collar in China.
I did a calculation based on figures I got from some ladies from 999 and Bodi, and concluded they could potentially make more than 30K RMB per month from the sauna.[/QUOTE]No doubt true insofar as it goes. But, which is the only profession where the more experience you have, the less you make? Time is not on their side.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1160346]I am a virgin I know more than most of you guys about sex.[/QUOTE]Really? Please further enlighten those of us who have actually HAD sex. How does thinking about it work better than actually DOING it?
Sorry to the rest of you for dragging this on, but this is just too funny.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1160348]I don't know about the sauna girls, but I'm good friends with an MP girl. Her daily range of clients is between 4 and 6. She says she averages about 7000 RMB a month.[/QUOTE]That sounds really low. Do you mean regular MP? Happy finish HJ MP?
Guys what are the thoughts on MP's vs Saunas?
I tried my first Massage place yesterday near Jing'an, I wasn't even sure if special services were offered. 28 year old came in, not especially a looker but she was nice enough. I chose the 'full body' oil massage. 100 minutes (again, I'm not even too sure at this point if it included a HE). As she did my back, I started gradually exploring her body and this was absolutely fine with her. Back massage felt *amazing.
Then she turned me over and did this thing where my bum is in the air, her legs are under mine, and she reaches from behind to play with little bro. Holy crap. It was sensational. Turned over, she applied oil to front area, did a 'nipple massage' and yeah, that was friggin epic. Lastly of course, was the main course and she put her legs under mine, brought my pelvis region on her thighs, and proceeded to give me the best HJ I've ever received. In fact, I'm not even sure if it was a HJ. It was more like a *great* massage of the most sensitive region of the body. Unloaded, and a bit accidentally hit her neck haha.
Anyway, so total damage. 271 RMB, which got me thinking. She wasn't a looker like those at Bodi or Hailang. But in all honesty, in many ways that 271 RMB bought me a better experience than I got at either Bodi / Hailing for 800. I guess the thing with actual sex is it's generally pretty slam bam thank you ma'am whereas MP's are 100% focused on making you feel good.
What do you guys think, are MP's generally a better deal than Saunas?
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1160540]That sounds really low. Do you mean regular MP? Happy finish HJ MP?[/QUOTE]It's a HJ finish massage girl at one of the hotels in People's Square area. I don't know if being attached to the hotel explains the apparent low income.
As a laowai I don't know much about salaries in Shanghai other than my own, but a cursory glance at Google suggests 7k is probably still more than average. Which IMHO is pretty good for rubbing backs and jerking people off LOL.
[url]http://www.q2hoo.com/2010/07/average-salary-in-china.htm[/url]
The average employee at a retail store only makes 10 rmb an hour. They usually work 10-12 hours a day. Monthly about 1600-2000. 7k RMB per month is a great wage, most retail store managers make $5k. So your friend makes a great wage and gets some exercise with it.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1160623]It's a HJ finish massage girl at one of the hotels in People's Square area. I don't know if being attached to the hotel explains the apparent low income.
As a laowai I don't know much about salaries in Shanghai other than my own, but a cursory glance at Google suggests 7k is probably still more than average. Which IMHO is pretty good for rubbing backs and jerking people off LOL.
[url]http://www.q2hoo.com/2010/07/average-salary-in-china.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
OK, for a HJ place that makes sense. But FS girls (in top-tier soapies at least) make more, thank god for them.
[QUOTE=Peterkn; 1160356]Hi again,
I went to Manhattan again earlier this week. Got there around midnight and the place was packed with girls (Viet, Flipper, Thai). I decided to try an LT / over night.
I ended up bringing a sexy little Thai (mid-late 20's) with me back to the hotel. We had agreed 800 rmb for the whole night with unlimited sex.
My question to you guys out there is if (at Manhattan)
* "over-night" means 2 pops and then sleeping together with no more sex, and unless you tip another couple of 100 there will be no more included? She asked for "taxi money" etc. I gave her nothing.
* you pay upfront or in the morning (I paid upfront. No bargaining power to get e. G. A morning CIM)
Thanks,
Peter[/QUOTE]In my experience, after you are done banging her but before she leaves, about 1/3 will ask for a tip, taxi money, or a small gift or whatever they can think of before they leave.
I think because plenty of guys will be indulgent, they get something extra often enough. But unless she really was THAT good and / or you plan to see her again, quite frankly I have never benefited from giving a tip beyond what was initially negotiated.
Now, don't get me wrong, I know what they do for a living isn't exactly easy, though some certainly have a good time, what you negotiate up front is what they should expect to be paid.
For the girl, it is a no lose situation to ask for more money because in most cases, she most likely will never see you again.
I did a girl, negotiated 700rmb. She let me do her anally and she was a real trooper. She didn't particularly like anal and she said I should give her more money for that. However I countered her by saying, but I gave you "shu fu" and you enjoyed it". She just gave me a shit eating grin and that was that.
Shu fu, essentially means comfort, though in context it essentially mean orgasms.
[QUOTE=Truazn532; 1160577]Guys what are the thoughts on MP's vs Saunas?
I tried my first Massage place yesterday near Jing'an, I wasn't even sure if special services were offered. 28 year old came in, not especially a looker but she was nice enough. I chose the 'full body' oil massage. 100 minutes (again, I'm not even too sure at this point if it included a HE). As she did my back, I started gradually exploring her body and this was absolutely fine with her. Back massage felt *amazing.[/QUOTE]Sounds good, thanks for your report!
Can you give us some hints about the location of this place? There are billions of MPs in Jing'an
I've seen the board for hotel recommendations for hotels around Manhattan. Unfortunately, they're a little out of my price range at the moment. From my search I found a nearby hotel. Baolong Hotel. I found no mention of it in prior posts. It seems there's a chain of them in Shanghai. Price is in my range. Anyone familiar with it and if it's girl friendly?
Or are there any other budget hotels you're familiar with near Manhattan or Jing-an? I'm trying to find something less than $60.
Anyone paid Datong a visit recently? Has it improved any? I am going back to Shanghai again at the end of June and thought about checking it out.
By the way, I will be there from June 24th to July 3rd if anyone wants to meet up.
Oak
I forgot to say, in addition to paying what you negotiate and nothing more, I have found it is usually better to pay after the deed.
Why? Once the girl is paid up front, she has no incentive to do a good job. In fact, in the few times as a rookie I paid up front, the girl usually tried to get me off asap and the experience was usually pretty mediocre and once it was pretty damn bad.
Also, it may seem harsh to not give a tip, especially to the uninitiated Americans who are used to tipping, but what you negotiate is all she expects. Nothing more. I know this may sound harsh to those who are used to tipping but, this isn't the US, this is China.
Do as the local custom, not what you would do at home, that's all I am saying. I suggest that for pretty much anywhere I travel around the world.
MAB
[QUOTE=Oakley08; 1161002]Anyone paid Datong a visit recently? Has it improved any? I am going back to Shanghai again at the end of June and thought about checking it out.
By the way, I will be there from June 24th to July 3rd if anyone wants to meet up.
Oak[/QUOTE]Daton mill is dead. Bummer, the place had a lot of potential. Don't bother to go there.
Post here again a bit closer to the time and we can agree where and when to meet.
[QUOTE=Dave_Far; 1160841]I've seen the board for hotel recommendations for hotels around Manhattan. Unfortunately, they're a little out of my price range at the moment. From my search I found a nearby hotel. Baolong Hotel. I found no mention of it in prior posts. It seems there's a chain of them in Shanghai. Price is in my range. Anyone familiar with it and if it's girl friendly?
Or are there any other budget hotels you're familiar with near Manhattan or Jing-an? I'm trying to find something less than $60. [/QUOTE]Definitely GF. I have recommended the hotel to several friends who were traveling on a budget and needed somewhere central to stay. Doesn't look much from the outside but good value for money. And it is a two minute walk from Manhattan to Hotel door to door.
[QUOTE=Mock A Bee; 1161009]I forgot to say, in addition to paying what you negotiate and nothing more, I have found it is usually better to pay after the deed.
Why? Once the girl is paid up front, she has no incentive to do a good job. In fact, in the few times as a rookie I paid up front, the girl usually tried to get me off asap and the experience was usually pretty mediocre and once it was pretty damn bad.
Also, it may seem harsh to not give a tip, especially to the uninitiated Americans who are used to tipping, but what you negotiate is all she expects. Nothing more. I know this may sound harsh to those who are used to tipping but, this isn't the US, this is China.
Do as the local custom, not what you would do at home, that's all I am saying. I suggest that for pretty much anywhere I travel around the world.
MAB[/QUOTE]Agree, we all should pay after. Some time during play, negotiate for extra pops for a bit more. If you pay after that is still in play.
I apologize for my sometimes bad attitude on here. Anyway. Here is a real report.
I was walking down a street that was completely empty, on Sunday. It looked like a business district kind of area. Then suddenly to my right I saw a door swing open and 3 girls wave me inside. Inside there were around 10 to 15 young and hot Chinese girls. There were seats inside and all the lights were completely off, not a single light.
My initial impression was that they were hiding from law enforcement. Why else no lights? But here I find myself in a building with a ton of hot girls.
They asked me if I want a drink and I said water. Then after a few minutes I went further inside the building and they had these 'stalls' each with a bed inside. Kind of looked like a changing room in a sports club. At first I thought it would just be one girl but then they suggested two girls. However, the price for 2 girls for 1 hour was just 400rmb.
Isn't that a pretty good price? Even in the back of the shop there were no lights so it was a bit hard to see what the girls were doing, but they used some baby whipes then proceeded to do what might be expected.
You experienced guys here, what kind of place is this I ask you? Its definitely not a spa, nor is it pink light. As there were no lights. The building was in a commercial area of Shanghai with no entertainment venues nearby at all. Inside it was just chairs and lots of hot girls and some stalls in the back. I really don't quite understand what I wondered into, but it was serendipitous.
Please shed some light on what this place is? Are they common around Shanghai?
Thanks for the information on here I was able to save an otherwise boring work trip into a memorable adventure.
I was in town for a couple of days with work colleagues staying at Marriott.
On the last night of the work one of the local operatives took us to his favourite KTV lounge. I simply couldn't understand the girls, the setup. The music was never in English. Then every 10 minutes or so, a parade of young girls would parade through. Apparently these girls could be had on the premises for 1300 RMB.
From my reading of the forum I knew this was steep. Fortunately I wasn't paying for the drinks at this place.
When we did leave someone else dropped the name of Manhatten before I could. Seems I wasn't the only well researched member of our party. Before long our taxi pulled up outside, we were quickly inside and it was great. It was a Saturday night. On a ratio it was probably 2 girls per guy. No shortage of ladies to chat and dance with. Compared to the Towers in Singapore this was a lot less hard sell, more just having fun.
Before long, each of our party paired off with a lady and individually headed back to our hotel by taxi. Each of us seemed to have been pretty happy with our choices and selections. I think the main thing was the lack of pressure to choose. It was easy to just move onto the next table and chat away. Since arriving back in the Aust office noone has discussed the night. What goes away stays away.
Eventually I found (or she found me) a nice cute VN girl. Hot white pants, see cup, long hair. 1000 RMB for the night and morning.
In discussions with her it seemed that the VN girls don't like the Manhatten. She talked about the price pressure from the Pi girls and it sounded very catty. She proposed skipping the Manhatten the next night, coming over for dinner with me, then staying the nigh for 2, 000 RMB. That sounded a bit high so I declined. I have no idea of her name or contact details.
I didn't even have to buy a drink at Manhatten, I was pretty full already.
I can't wait for my next work trip to Shanghai especially now that I know my work colleagues have the same interests. We often worry in these forums about our work mates. Seems it might be easier to introduce them casually on the first night and see what happens. As long as no one is running for parliament or public office, it should be good fun.
Aussie Jo
Shanghai is full of opportunities for P4P as well as freebies.
On my first night in town I managed to meet up with a Filipino nanny whom I contacted through Yahoo. We caught up for a coffee and a walk around the hotel. Eventually she says that she can only stay until 3:30am and will have to leave then. WTF, it was only 10pm and she was doing the prompting. Well that was my cue to get her back to the hotel room and into the darkness.
Just as things were hotting up, she seemed distracted, a little worried. Then she told me that she had a boyfriend, he's out of town for a couple for days, is that OK, do I still want to f&k her? I could hardly say no. As promised, she did leave in the early morning but only after another shag.
She was then out of town for a couple for days doing nanny work and we didn't catch up again. Needless to say she's on the list for the next visit as well.
Aussie Jo
[QUOTE=Truazn532; 1160577]Guys what are the thoughts on MP's vs Saunas?
I tried my first Massage place yesterday near Jing'an, I wasn't even sure if special services were offered. 28 year old came in, not especially a looker but she was nice enough. I chose the 'full body' oil massage. 100 minutes (again, I'm not even too sure at this point if it included a HE). As she did my back, I started gradually exploring her body and this was absolutely fine with her. Back massage felt *amazing. [/QUOTE]Hi, can you be more specific with the location? Street number? Cross streets? Etc
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1161322]I apologize for my sometimes bad attitude on here. Anyway. Here is a real report.
I was walking down a street that was completely empty, on Sunday. It looked like a business district kind of area..
Please shed some light on what this place is? Are they common around Shanghai? [/QUOTE]And where was this place? I mean. Shangai is a huge city and "business district kid of area" can be anywhere and nowhere.
Was 400 RMB all what you paid for doing a deed with 2 girls?
Any english speaking?
No outside sign? What kind fo services did they provide'
Might be a real report but it is quite vague.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1161392]And where was this place? I mean. Shangai is a huge city and "business district kid of area" can be anywhere and nowhere.
Was 400 RMB all what you paid for doing a deed with 2 girls?
Any english speaking?
No outside sign? What kind fo services did they provide'
Might be a real report but it is quite vague. [/QUOTE]400 for 2 girls is normal for a BBS. I've never seen one with the lights off, but I don't think the lights are what make it a BBS. It's the stalls or extremely tiny "rooms", the little wet wipe bags the girls carry with them, the pressure to get it done in a shorter amount of time than if you were at a sauna, the lack of shower, the general cheapness of the whole thing. Oh and the ability to just walk in and check out the girls without having to commit.
Sounds exciting, but I don't know how I would enter some location that has the lights off. It doesn't sound dangerous as much as just very awkward unless you knew ahead of time what the deal was.
Went to Bodi again recently and it was as packed as I have ever seen it. Every lounging chair in the waiting area had a dude in it. Also. None of my regulars were available so I had to go see the fishbowl. Usually bodi has 15-20 girls in the bowl, but at this moment it was maybe 5 or 6.
I didn't really care for any of them so I decided to go for youth (she turned out to be 22) and picked #623. She was very short, cute face, good curves on the ass and tiny tits. Her nipples were somewhat intriguing in that they were incredibly tiny. Like as tiny as the period at the end of this sentence. Smaller than a worn down pencil eraser. Almost unsuckable.
She seemed like a newbie during just about every step. Her ability to put the little plastic wrap thing on the water bed was impressively clumsy. Her soapy massage was totally stupid and boring. She couldn't keep track of knowing that she'd need a towel more than once and would discard it onto the floor without realizing that later on we'd shower again. Couldn't connect with me verbally. Even if you don't share a language, girls that have done this for a while know how to get basic ideas across. It was amateur hour.
But. Her BBBJ was hands down the best I've had in China.
If you try her, keep in mind everyone has their particular way they like to have a BBBJ, but for me #623 at Bodi is awesome. She went down far, but really it was just her particular motion and attitude that synced with what I needed. I never naturally finish with a BBBJ, but I had to stop her to prevent it from happening. The main event was typical, but good. She didn't complain about my size and let me hit it pretty solidly. I'll definitely see her again.
I now have too many regulars at Bodi to actually see them with any amount of regularity.
Hi,
It was a real report. Yes there are absolutely no lights at all but as I walked past the girls basically 'swooped' me up. By the way, this was at like 2am on Sunday night!
They opened the door before I had a chance to even turn my head. I also didn't have a clue where the hell I was (in terms of the mongering scene) but it is literally a place with 10 to 15 hot CHINESE girls. Yes, Chinese girls, not Vietnamese or Thai or anything else. I kind of felt like this place might be a normal business during the day and the girls were just being entrepreneurial by using the building at night. But then again I kind of find it hard to work out what the space is used for during the day since it was just full of chairs and stalls in the back with beds.
I even made a joke in Chinese while I was drinking the water, I said 'why no lights' and all the girls giggled. I didn't interrogate them about prices but it is indeed 400rmb for 2 girls and that is all I paid.
I did feel a little uneasy because as I was sipping on my warm cup of water, they were all staring out the window and 'whispering'. You would never notice this place if you drove past in a car that is for sure.
I will send Bionicman the location details via private message since I don't want this place to be public knowledge. Maybe he can check it out and let us know what the deal is. I think I will be back myself very soon. Realize that they must have the lights off for a reason. If I post the address here maybe LEO will go there. While I was drinking my water a Chinese guy did walk in however, so this place must on the map for locals at least.
There were no guys working there that's for sure. Maybe these girls invented some new kind of place ha.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1161435]Hi,
It was a real report. Yes there are absolutely no lights at all but as I walked past the girls basically 'swooped' me up. By the way, this was at like 2am on Sunday night!
They opened the door before I had a chance to even turn my head. I also didn't have a clue where the hell I was (in terms of the mongering scene) but it is literally a place with 10 to 15 hot CHINESE girls. Yes, Chinese girls, not Vietnamese or Thai or anything else. I kind of felt like this place might be a normal business during the day and the girls were just being entrepreneurial by using the building at night. But then again I kind of find it hard to work out what the space is used for during the day since it was just full of chairs and stalls in the back with beds.
I even made a joke in Chinese while I was drinking the water, I said 'why no lights' and all the girls giggled. I didn't interrogate them about prices but it is indeed 400rmb for 2 girls and that is all I paid.
I did feel a little uneasy because as I was sipping on my warm cup of water, they were all staring out the window and 'whispering'. You would never notice this place if you drove past in a car that is for sure.
I will send Bionicman the location details via private message since I don't want this place to be public knowledge. Maybe he can check it out and let us know what the deal is. I think I will be back myself very soon. Realize that they must have the lights off for a reason. If I post the address here maybe LEO will go there. While I was drinking my water a Chinese guy did walk in however, so this place must on the map for locals at least.
There were no guys working there that's for sure. Maybe these girls invented some new kind of place ha. [/QUOTE]Hey I will pick you up and drive us there.
Hey guys has anyone tried helenandfriends they say they have in call and out.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1161322]I apologize for my sometimes bad attitude on here. Anyway. Here is a real report.
I was walking down a street that was completely empty, on Sunday. It looked like a business district kind of area. Then suddenly to my right I saw a door swing open and 3 girls wave me inside. Inside there were around 10 to 15 young and hot Chinese girls. There were seats inside and all the lights were completely off, not a single light. [/QUOTE]Stumbled upon a similar area last year in Luwan (Wuliqiao Road.). Several establishments, very dim to no lighting. Almost like a venus fly trap sort of thing. Same action as BBS.
Hi,
I've desperately been looking for a strip place in this city. I mean the king of place where you could get a nice strip tease, in public (like in Europe or the US) but where you could get an extra if needed.
That kind of places would be great for customers / bachelor parties / etc.
I know this would be doable in a KTV but in fact I don't know of any providing it anyways.
I heard many myths over the years about hidden Japanese / Korean places but found none.
Suggestions anyone?
It does happen that BBS will hide behind heavy curtains, or in some cases have the lights off. Usually though it's not a good sign, it means they have reasons to fear the police at that moment (rumors, or they have been tipped off) , they didn't want to close the shop, but they are worried about a raid and want to fly low and be ready to hide if they see anything suspicious. I don't really do BBS but if I did, I wouldn't do one that is in that mode.
Congratulations on losing your virginity!
[QUOTE=ShanghaiNights; 1161495]Hi,
I've desperately been looking for a strip place in this city. I mean the king of place where you could get a nice strip tease, in public (like in Europe or the US) but where you could get an extra if needed.
That kind of places would be great for customers / bachelor parties / etc.
I know this would be doable in a KTV but in fact I don't know of any providing it anyways.
I heard many myths over the years about hidden Japanese / Korean places but found none.
Suggestions anyone? [/QUOTE]How about contributing first?
Tis more blessed to give, than to receive.
Twas what my Sunday school teacher taught me, and although I have discarded almost all of her other advice, I have retained this.
P13
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu; 1161431]400 for 2 girls is normal for a BBS. I've never seen one with the lights off, but I don't think the lights are what make it a BBS. It's the stalls or extremely tiny "rooms", the little wet wipe bags the girls carry with them, the pressure to get it done in a shorter amount of time than if you were at a sauna, the lack of shower, the general cheapness of the whole thing. Oh and the ability to just walk in and check out the girls without having to commit.
Sounds exciting, but I don't know how I would enter some location that has the lights off. It doesn't sound dangerous as much as just very awkward unless you knew ahead of time what the deal was. [/QUOTE]Same happend to me in wuzhong lu 2 weeks ago. There is 3 saunas and 3 or 4 BBS in that street. On Monday I went there. First sauna completly closed. 2 BBs closed. One dark and curtains closed but girls inside. I finaly went into one sauna where they told me closed but the papa san ran after me and told me we still had girls in another floor in hotel rooms. I did go for it and it was ok.
I went back 2 days later. All saunaus wide open, all bbs lights on, curtains open, girls standing at the door waving you in. So something must be known.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1161503]It does happen that BBS will hide behind heavy curtains, or in some cases have the lights off. Usually though it's not a good sign, it means they have reasons to fear the police at that moment (rumors, or they have been tipped off) , they didn't want to close the shop, but they are worried about a raid and want to fly low and be ready to hide if they see anything suspicious. I don't really do BBS but if I did, I wouldn't do one that is in that mode.
Congratulations on losing your virginity! [/QUOTE]I didn't have full sex. But now I really am wondering about how safe is it to go to places in Shanghai. If you are caught up in a raid what is the penalty? I've been to malones and manhattan and heard about recent raids there and also about a recent police conference on tackling prostitution. Where is safe these days? I hate the idea of taking a bath, putting on a robe etc. If BBS is what that place was then it suits me just fine, albeit I don't want to end up on an episode of banged up abroad.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1161721]I didn't have full sex. But now I really am wondering about how safe is it to go to places in Shanghai. If you are caught up in a raid what is the penalty? I've been to malones and manhattan and heard about recent raids there and also about a recent police conference on tackling prostitution. Where is safe these days? I hate the idea of taking a bath, putting on a robe etc. If BBS is what that place was then it suits me just fine, albeit I don't want to end up on an episode of banged up abroad.[/QUOTE]Nowhere is safe. RTFF. Make proper contributions to this forum. Go join CLL or QQ.
Hi guys.
I still have no idea exactly how a KTV works.
When in Shanghai last time, I checked out the KTV in the JC Mandarin. Hostess and girls were friendly and keen but I ended up going to Bar Rouge.
I am in Nanjing right now. There is a KTV in the Sheraton hotel where I am staying, nice hotel.
I went to the entrance of the KTV, said I was a hotel guest and the guy at the entrance got very rude and said something like "no room". The place was empty! I was eventually allowed in to look around but the guys weren't too friendly. Seemed to be plenty of available girls.
If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them?
On the positive side, I went to the massage place and got a girl to come back to my room for a massage, a real cutie. I did get a hand shandy out of it for a little bit extra, well worth it and overall very cheap.
[QUOTE=ShanghaiNights; 1161495]Hi,
I've desperately been looking for a strip place in this city. I mean the king of place where you could get a nice strip tease, in public (like in Europe or the US) but where you could get an extra if needed.
That kind of places would be great for customers / bachelor parties / etc.
I know this would be doable in a KTV but in fact I don't know of any providing it anyways.
I heard many myths over the years about hidden Japanese / Korean places but found none.
Suggestions anyone? [/QUOTE]I've never seen nor even heard of a strip joint in China, except for some of the wilder ISG KTV parties (especially in CP).
[QUOTE=Smirnoff;1161721]I didn't have full sex. But now I really am wondering about how safe is it to go to places in Shanghai. If you are caught up in a raid what is the penalty? I've been to malones and manhattan and heard about recent raids there and also about a recent police conference on tackling prostitution. Where is safe these days? I hate the idea of taking a bath, putting on a robe etc. If BBS is what that place was then it suits me just fine, albeit I don't want to end up on an episode of banged up abroad.[/QUOTE]Ok, Smirnoff. Time to bust that cherry and get you broken in. If you're afraid of LE, my opinion would be. Go to Manhattan early. If LE was going to raid (a long shot on any given night) , they wouldn't do it when there's only girls there. I dropped in around 9:30, and it was me, about 3 other guys at the bar, and around 20 girls sitting at tables. Turn on your charm, go talk to a few, pick one, and then take her to your hotel. No showering with other guys, low risk of LE right at opening time, and your hotel won't be looking to block girls from entering at 10:00.
Deal Done. The first one's the hardest.
[QUOTE=Bob Sacamano;1161818]I've never seen nor even heard of a strip joint in China, except for some of the wilder ISG KTV parties (especially in CP).[/QUOTE]I've heard of strip joints that got busted in Canton. It was in the news several months ago.
[QUOTE=Peterpack; 1161817]Hi guys.
I still have no idea exactly how a KTV works.
I am in Nanjing right now. There is a KTV in the Sheraton hotel where I am staying, nice hotel.
If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them?
[/QUOTE]KTV Are part of the asian entertainment culture and are not to' be rated as brothels.
On the other hand look at the services you get from sauna in 3 to 5 star hotels.
Having said that I never recommend a KTV for a guy alone.
You have to be a party of 4 or more. Then you can have fun.
A KTV experience is a mix of singing, drinking, snacks, playing surrounded by nice girls.
You can choose one or more each from a line up of 10/12: if not happy with the choices you can ask for more parades. KTV have up to 200 girls working, obviously not all at same time.
Arriving late will mean less choice of girls. This means after 9pm.
Chinese go as early as 6. 30/7pm. Action ends towards midnight or you pay for an extra shift with the girls.
Depending on the venue things can be pretty wild or boring, in terms of girl entertaining you.
English speaking is not to be taken as granted, on the contrary.
Don't expect sex to happen, just kissing, groping, maybe some occasional nudity.
Some places close an eye on what happens behind the door of the room toilet (depends on chemistry with the girl and you tipping her). Some others might offer ST rooms or facilities.
Some girls are available for take away at the end of the evening. Check first with mama-san when you select them. A KTV evening is not overly expenses but does nog provide sex per se.
With the same or a bit more amount of money you can have a sauna experience of a similar length of time and sex for sure. And you can go in a sauna alone.
It is also recommended to go to a KTV with locals.
They will take you where they know and, more important, are known. They book the room ahead. Have their preferred mama-san.
It is not a place for wham-bam sex.
Hope this gets you the picture.
[QUOTE=Peterpack; 1161817]Hi guys.
If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them? [/QUOTE]Just an FYI, many KTV and MP and Spa located in / adjacent to hotel premises are actually operated by separate independent companies so the hotel can deny knowledge of their operations while still benefiting from the (customer) percieved relationship....
[QUOTE=Peterpack; 1161817]Hi guys.
I still have no idea exactly how a KTV works.
When in Shanghai last time, I checked out the KTV in the JC Mandarin. Hostess and girls were friendly and keen but I ended up going to Bar Rouge.
I am in Nanjing right now. There is a KTV in the Sheraton hotel where I am staying, nice hotel.
I went to the entrance of the KTV, said I was a hotel guest and the guy at the entrance got very rude and said something like "no room". The place was empty! I was eventually allowed in to look around but the guys weren't too friendly. Seemed to be plenty of available girls.
If a KTV really is a brothel, how can well renowned hotel chains be involved with them?
On the positive side, I went to the massage place and got a girl to come back to my room for a massage, a real cutie. I did get a hand shandy out of it for a little bit extra, well worth it and overall very cheap. [/QUOTE]To Peter,
Most KTV and sauna only service regular customer and most are book in advanced on weekend, most KTV and sauna are own by different owner so if there are crack down the hotel can stay open, it is hard to crack down on KTV most of the girl are freelance not employed by the KTV so what happen in your hotel room is between you and the girl.
Fast Eddie 48
Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.
The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane.
I just wanted to get some recommendation on some good MPs that isn't too far off the airport. Reading the forum, I can assume that one of the popular ones is called the Manhatten and was wondering how far it is a journey from the Pu Dong airport. Would a regular taxi driver know how to get to Manhatten if I just tell him the name? Some easy directions would be really helpful.
I believe the regular price range of MPs are around 400RMB and if anyone could run down the basic prices for different establishments, it would be extremely appreciated. I have RTFF but mixed reports about different prices have me abit confused.
I've read of these KTVs and would it be correct to assume that it's the Room Salon equivalent in Korea? I've been to a few room salons in Korea and found them to be enjoyable but definitely pricier than I would like, especially since sex is not included as part of the initial cover charge and have to be negotiated afterwards. I probably wouldn't go here as I'm travelling solo and I assume it's mainly for a group of people.
And lastly, can anyone write here some basic Chinese (spelt in english of course) that I could use that would come in handy. Or some phrases that is commonly used by yourself.
Sorry if this is a big request by a non-contributor in this particular thread but as a total nooby in China, I felt it appropriate to ask.
Cheers!
Am thinking of visiting a sauna on the weekend, anyone know if there are any upcoming raids?
Take the Maglev from Pudong airport to Longyang Road. It is the last station this train stops. I think the ride is about 8 minutes or so at 480 kmh.
If you have luggage, go downstairs to arrivals, and store them. It is safe and very cheap to store your luggage. I have put everything from briefcase to laptops in there. Make sure you take your passport with you. Storage costs about 20 RMB per day per very large box that will fit about 2 carryon bags plus, laptop bag.
Follow the signs from arrival to the Maglev station. The ticket is about 100RMB or so. When you get off at Longyang Road station, go downstairs. You will see a McDonalds. Wlak past that MacDonalds. Ahead you will see an elevated highway. Past that elevated highway you will see a METRO department store. Cross the Inner Ring Elevated Road, walk past the Metro. Keep walking, past the METRO for about 5 to 10 minutes. You will see residential area. On the second or third cross street you pass, you will see some retail to your left. On the corner of that you will see a massage place. Can't miss it. Bear in mind you are still walking along Baiyang Road. I cannot remember the name of that cross street. All along that street, you will see about a dozen massage places. The first two, that looks very traditional are real massage places. After the first two, you will see a whole bunch of them, with girls standing looking out the glass. It will say massage.
Pick the "massage" place you like, choose your girl and it is about 300 RMB for an hour. She will take you to a room for a quickie. Then go for a nice 2 hour massage, at the first two places.
When you done, head back to the station, have a nice meal and MacDs. And head back. This should eat up about 4 to 6 hours of your time.
CT.
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162151]Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.
The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane.
I just wanted to get some recommendation on some good MPs that isn't too far off the airport. Reading the forum, I can assume that one of the popular ones is called the Manhatten and was wondering how far it is a journey from the Pu Dong airport. Would a regular taxi driver know how to get to Manhatten if I just tell him the name? Some easy directions would be really helpful.
I believe the regular price range of MPs are around 400RMB and if anyone could run down the basic prices for different establishments, it would be extremely appreciated. I have RTFF but mixed reports about different prices have me abit confused.
I've read of these KTVs and would it be correct to assume that it's the Room Salon equivalent in Korea? I've been to a few room salons in Korea and found them to be enjoyable but definitely pricier than I would like, especially since sex is not included as part of the initial cover charge and have to be negotiated afterwards. I probably wouldn't go here as I'm travelling solo and I assume it's mainly for a group of people.
And lastly, can anyone write here some basic Chinese (spelt in english of course) that I could use that would come in handy. Or some phrases that is commonly used by yourself.
Sorry if this is a big request by a non-contributor in this particular thread but as a total nooby in China, I felt it appropriate to ask.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162151]Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.
The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane. [/QUOTE]Just a quick question. Do you have a Visa to enter China? If not, looks like you are stuck at the airport for 13 hours.
-K-
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162151]Hi guys, I have a connecting flight that will have me in Shanghai for 13 hours. Thought this would be an excellent opportunity to monger in Shanghai before I continue in Korea. Sorry if I can't make a contribution here as I haven't been to Shanghai before but I will definitely do a follow up report if I can get some good info.
The airport that I'll be landing is the Shanghai Pu Dong airport and as the flight is in 13 hours I probably won't be able to venture too far into the city, lest I enjoy myself too much and end up missing my plane.
I just wanted to get some recommendation on some good MPs that isn't too far off the airport. Reading the forum, I can assume that one of the popular ones is called the Manhatten and was wondering how far it is a journey from the Pu Dong airport. Would a regular taxi driver know how to get to Manhatten if I just tell him the name? Some easy directions would be really helpful.
I believe the regular price range of MPs are around 400RMB and if anyone could run down the basic prices for different establishments, it would be extremely appreciated. I have RTFF but mixed reports about different prices have me abit confused.
I've read of these KTVs and would it be correct to assume that it's the Room Salon equivalent in Korea? I've been to a few room salons in Korea and found them to be enjoyable but definitely pricier than I would like, especially since sex is not included as part of the initial cover charge and have to be negotiated afterwards. I probably wouldn't go here as I'm travelling solo and I assume it's mainly for a group of people.
And lastly, can anyone write here some basic Chinese (spelt in english of course) that I could use that would come in handy. Or some phrases that is commonly used by yourself.
Sorry if this is a big request by a non-contributor in this particular thread but as a total nooby in China, I felt it appropriate to ask.
Cheers! [/QUOTE]For 13 hours, I would go to Bodi. Take the Maglev to the end station, take a taxi to the Bodi hotel for 20 to 30 Yuan. You get a nice shower, massage, layed, food and drink. You can stay for up to 10 hours for 600 to 800.
JB
Hi guys.
Thanks for the recommendations. Will definitely check them out. Any directions to this manhatten though? Or would it be too far of a travel to be of any use.
And thanks for the tip about visas, will definitely have to apply before I leave. I'm used to visas being granted at the immigration gate, so will look into that.
Cheers guys will make a report once I get some first hand info
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162331]Hi guys.
Thanks for the recommendations. Will definitely check them out. Any directions to this manhatten though? Or would it be too far of a travel to be of any use.
And thanks for the tip about visas, will definitely have to apply before I leave. I'm used to visas being granted at the immigration gate, so will look into that.
Cheers guys will make a report once I get some first hand info[/QUOTE]I think it's 154 NanYang Road (near XiKang Road). Chinese name: &21335; &38451; &36335; 154&21495; (&36817; &35199; &24247; &36335.
For the basic Chinese phrases, just get a phrasebook from a bookstore in the airport.
[QUOTE=Zarcady;1162151]...good MPs that isn't too far off the airport. Reading the forum, I can assume that one of the popular ones is called the Manhatten and was wondering[/QUOTE]Manhattan is a (take-out) bar, not MP or Spa. And the cost would be substantially beyond 400RMB.
[QUOTE=Smirnoff; 1153472]Anyone here actually able to answer my curiosity about the HOT girls standing in club soho every day? It's on 4 Hengshan Lu.
Am I allowed to post a link here?
[url]http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/shanghai/listings/nightlife/nightclub/has/soho-music-restaurant-bar/[/url]
It is 600rmb for open bar on weekday nights. I didn't go there with the intention of picking up a girl, this place is a 'normal' trendy night club where 99% of you fat or old guys wouldn't even dare walk inside. It is not in my opinion a place where mongerer's go. No offence, but I doubt any of you have been there unfortunately.
But I can tell you it is full of 20 to 30 hot girls just standing at the back all night long. No-one is talking to them, they are not talking to each other either. The just stand there all night long. The music is also too loud to have any kind of semblance of a conversation inside.
Therefore I'm hoping some of you experienced guys can give me a heads up on what the dealio is with the girls there. What is a respectable price to take one home for an hour? In my opinion the girls are 'to die for'.
Yes, this post isn't that friendly but it really doesn't matter, I'm searching for info and if you experienced guys can tell me what price to expect, I might just do it then post a report. This place is in my opinion a gem in the rough. [/QUOTE]I am in my early 20s so I have gone to quite a few Shanghai nightclubs and am quite familiar with the KTV / nightclubs. I have been to both the "normal nightclubs" (without paid company) and the other nightclubs (with paid company). If anyone is interested in having a night out, feel free to message me. These "girls" quite simply are like escorts. Many of them are simply stunning and have the ass to prove it but can be quite pricy (depending on where you go) and even after paying their tip, you are not guaranteed a lay (but I am sure that they can be convinced with a decent offer). It really depends on how well you connect with the girl during your time in the nightclub. In nightclubs, you also usually have to book a table in order to have them bring these girls round for you to select from. I have sat through a few of these and you feel like a king haha.
Tips are very dependant but start from around 500RMB and that is just for their company. If you want to get them in bed I would imagine you'd have to tip them at least another 2500RMB. Then there's the expense of ordering alcohol, which, if you book a table, usually has to be at least 2000RMB worth. Pricy, but when you see their naked bodies. Damn, it's worth it.
[QUOTE=Cool Traveler; 1162207]Follow the signs from arrival to the Maglev station. The ticket is about 100RMB or so. When you get off at Longyang Road station, go downstairs. You will see a McDonalds. Wlak past that MacDonalds. Ahead you will see an elevated highway. Past that elevated highway you will see a METRO department store. Cross the Inner Ring Elevated Road, walk past the Metro. Keep walking, past the METRO for about 5 to 10 minutes. You will see residential area. On the second or third cross street you pass, you will see some retail to your left. On the corner of that you will see a massage place. Can't miss it. Bear in mind you are still walking along Baiyang Road. I cannot remember the name of that cross street. All along that street, you will see about a dozen massage places. The first two, that looks very traditional are real massage places. After the first two, you will see a whole bunch of them, with girls standing looking out the glass. It will say massage.
Pick the "massage" place you like, choose your girl and it is about 300 RMB for an hour. She will take you to a room for a quickie. Then go for a nice 2 hour massage, at the first two places.
CT. [/QUOTE]I am quite familiar with the area but surprised with the number of "massage" places you mentioned, do you mean the BBS on Dujuan and Jinghua Road (I. E. North of the Elevated ring Road). In fact there are only 5-6 BBS in total there, not massage places, apart from the one on the corner of Yinghua / Baiyang. Also you get one hour FS for RMB 300, where?
Thanks for the additional info!
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162331]Hi guys.
And thanks for the tip about visas, will definitely have to apply before I leave. I'm used to visas being granted at the immigration gate, so will look into that.
Cheers guys will make a report once I get some first hand info[/QUOTE]With no VISA you can forget about entering the country. My company has syring connection in the country and brings business to the country for many millions of $. Still we go through the hassle of a VISA. The quickest way for us is to use an agency in HK. I drop passport and photo to my hotel concierge at 1pm and get it back at 6pm with the visa on. Go imagine you handling this at the immigration office. Especially if you are in transit, with no reason to go to town. If that would be that easy tons of us would escape the procedure. The visa on arrival, available in some countries is a different story. Has still to be applied in advance by some local agency which applies to the immigration office. Then the name is in a list at the airport. Sorry to put down your hopes, but I am quite pessimistic on you entering PRC this way. Better chose another transit airport as I always do:BKK. In 13 hrs you can really do a lot there.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1162545]With no VISA you can forget about entering the country. My company has syring connection in the country and brings business to the country for many millions of $. Still we go through the hassle of a VISA. The quickest way for us is to use an agency in HK. I drop passport and photo to my hotel concierge at 1pm and get it back at 6pm with the visa on. Go imagine you handling this at the immigration office. Especially if you are in transit, with no reason to go to town. If that would be that easy tons of us would escape the procedure. The visa on arrival, available in some countries is a different story. Has still to be applied in advance by some local agency which applies to the immigration office. Then the name is in a list at the airport. Sorry to put down your hopes, but I am quite pessimistic on you entering PRC this way. Better chose another transit airport as I always do:BKK. In 13 hrs you can really do a lot there.[/QUOTE]A simple tourist visa will do but will cost you 40. 90 euro depenting if you are from the US or Europe. Its take a day to get in Europe.
[QUOTE=Osuul;1162555]A simple tourist visa will do but will cost you 40. 90 euro depenting if you are from the US or Europe. Its take a day to get in Europe.[/QUOTE]BTW it doesn't matter if you go to the Pudong or downtown, its will take only 10 to 20 minutes longer.
[QUOTE=Osuul;1162555]A simple tourist visa will do but will cost you 40. 90 euro depenting if you are from the US or Europe. Its take a day to get in Europe.[/QUOTE]I am not questioning the costs or the possibility to get a visa. Back home or even en route (not that easy, tho'!) Same I am not questioning the type of visa, leisure or business.
My issue is you can't get one when you arrive. Not at immigration, this is what I mean.
Airline will not board anyone without a valid visa. They are heavily fined if they board a passenger with no visa and will have to take him back on their plane.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1162599]I am not questioning the costs or the possibility to get a visa. Back home or even en route (not that easy, tho'!) Same I am not questioning the type of visa, leisure or business.
My issue is you can't get one when you arrive. Not at immigration, this is what I mean.
Airline will not board anyone without a valid visa. They are heavily fined if they board a passenger with no visa and will have to take him back on their plane.[/QUOTE]To Bionicman
No VOA visa at the airport you must get it ahead of time at your home country, for 13 hr it is not worth it plan to do a stop over for a few days if you got the time ask your travel agent to get it for you, there are many type tourist, business single or multi entries all different price.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1162545]With no VISA you can forget about entering the country. My company has syring connection in the country and brings business to the country for many millions of $. Still we go through the hassle of a VISA. The quickest way for us is to use an agency in HK. I drop passport and photo to my hotel concierge at 1pm and get it back at 6pm with the visa on.[/QUOTE]Macau have something similar with visa runners, if you happen to know? Or if the China Consulate across the street from the Beverly Hotel is a viable option? Thankfully, the Chinese are giving 12-month multiple entries routine now in US, so it's only an annual chore
SOS. Calling out all New Yorkers. I apologise in advance for using the wrong thread.
There must be something here who can help a fellow punter in need.
Having been spoilt by the choices of FKK's in Germany; Austria and Zurich.
The punting scene in London; HK; China; Singapore; Bangkok and Malaysia. I am really.
Disapponted with the choices on offer in the Big Apple.
It should be renamed the Big Tease!
Only been to a few lap dancing places in Manhattan (Rick's; Flash Dancers; Dolls etc.)
And the bloody online Escort agencies are charging a whopping $500-$600 per hour.
For locals and EE girls I can get in FKK for 100 euros.
Can anyone recommend any online places or hidden houses in NYC. Tried all the papers
And there's NOTHING!
Please PM me. I'm sure to return the favour in the near future
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1162545]With no VISA you can forget about entering the country. My company has syring connection in the country and brings business to the country for many millions of $. Still we go through the hassle of a VISA. The quickest way for us is to use an agency in HK. I drop passport and photo to my hotel concierge at 1pm and get it back at 6pm with the visa on. Go imagine you handling this at the immigration office. Especially if you are in transit, with no reason to go to town. If that would be that easy tons of us would escape the procedure. The visa on arrival, available in some countries is a different story. Has still to be applied in advance by some local agency which applies to the immigration office. Then the name is in a list at the airport. Sorry to put down your hopes, but I am quite pessimistic on you entering PRC this way. Better chose another transit airport as I always do:BKK. In 13 hrs you can really do a lot there.[/QUOTE]Hi Bionicman, I understand where you are coming from and appreciate your warning, but I have heard of Visa-free entry for those who are in transit for less than 48 hours. I know my source is wikipedia but I don't think they would allow a downright false info, no matter which user submitted it. It says:
Visa-free transit within any international airport.
Visas are not required of any foreign passport holders who:
Hold air tickets to a final destination outside China and who have booked seats on international airlines flying directly through China.
Stay in the transit city for less than 24 hours;
Leaving the airport transit area is allowed.
And especially Shanghai seems to allow visa-free travel for less than 48 hours. It says:
Shanghai: Holders of passports issued by the following countries do not need a visa if transiting through either Pudong Airport or Hongqiao Airport in Shanghai provided they hold valid passports, visas for the onward countries, final destination tickets and have booked onward flight seats, and stay in Shanghai for less than 48 hours.
The source is here : [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_People[/url]'s_Republic_of_China#Visa-free_transit_within_any_international_airport.
If what you know is definitely different than what is above (as wikipedia is not a reliable source) , then feel free to tell me otherwise.
What is curious to me is when you said I can do alot in 13 hours, intriguing comment and was after some recommendation of your own if you don't mind?
Regards
Oh sorry, didn't realise you meant I could do alot in 13 hours in Bangkok. Hahaha, my mistake. Sorry for double post
[url]http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84242.htm[/url]
&9733; Visa-free transit.
1. Visas are not required of aliens who hold air tickets to the final destination and have booked seats on international airliners flying directly through China, and will stay in a transit city for less than 24 hours without leaving the airport.
2. Visas are not required of passport holders of the following countries, who transit through Pudong Airport or Hongqiao Airport of Shanghai, provided they hold valid passports, visas for the onward countries, final destination tickets and have booked seats, and stay in Shanghai for less than 48 hours : Republic of Korea, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Austria, Greece, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Iceland.
Went Heting around 5:30pm last night. This was my second visit there but haven't been in China for over a year so was looking for everything to have changed. Gladly, nothing had changed. Walked into the black glass building, went into the elevator, hit 3 and was immediately greeted by the manager guy. Was led into the changing room. Shoes and clothes off and just a rope. Sat and relaxed for about 10 minutes. Place wasn't that crowded at all, just noticed another two guys. Finally the big chief ushered us into this black room and there was a line of 10 or so girls. Actually, I was a little disappointed by what they had, most were slightly plump and none really had a nice face.
Either way, I went with #518. She was the fittest of the lot, with a slim body but only an ok face. She led me through a maze of rooms and we finally reached ours. She took off her clothes and helped me with my rope. As this was happening I learnt that she was from Si Chuan. The usual deeds where done: water-mouth massage thing (not bad) , tongue massage (ok). The thing I liked about #518 was that she'd moan during the entire massage like how the pornstars do it in the movies. That really helped get me in the mood haha.
Then came the BBBJ. Nothing specially either. I got the feeling that she was actually quite tired since she was yawning a lot during our session. Probably if she wasn't so tired the service would have been better. Also, I was a little on edge since I read a bit of raids happening so I wasn't entirely comfortable myself. Next came the sex. She opted for missionary position (because she was tired) which I was happy to oblige. When selecting a condom she threw away the ribbed condoms because she said they hurt, implying she must have already serviced heaps of guys. Finally I popped, we relaxed and she called in for hot towels. She hugged me for a bit and dozed off for about 10 minutes. Then our time was up. We redressed and she led me out. I showered, paid the bill (600RMB damage) and was off. Spent roughly 70 minutes in there. So to surmize:
Face: 6.
Body: 7.
Breast: 6 (pretty flat)
Sex: 7.
Attitude: 6 (she seemed pretty disinterested and appeared to only want to get the thing done asap)
[QUOTE=Toronto; 1162646][url]http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84242.htm[/url]
&9733; Visa-free transit.
1. Visas are not required of aliens who hold air tickets to the final destination and have booked seats on international airliners flying directly through China, and will stay in a transit city for less than 24 hours without leaving the airport.
2. Visas are not required of passport holders of the following countries, who transit through Pudong Airport or Hongqiao Airport of Shanghai, provided they hold valid passports, visas for the onward countries, final destination tickets and have booked seats, and stay in Shanghai for less than 48 hours : Republic of Korea, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Austria, Greece, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Iceland. [/QUOTE]Point #1 states "without leaving the airport", that means youbetter be not caught for whatever reason out of the airport (seems to me a sort of allowance to circulate in the international transit area)
Point #2 seems an opening for citizens of certain countries allowing the stay in Shangai. In this case I step back from my statemetns. .
I regularly RTFF and I haven't seen hardly any reports of Chinese freelancers for awhile. Manhattan and Judy's are almost exclusively Thai, Phil and Viet these days.
Anyone know where these Chinese freelancers have gone? It seems that Xintiandi is the best bet. Anyone had any luck at Zapatas, Bar Rouge, etc recently?
Thanks,
Oak
[QUOTE=Simex; 1162624]SOS. Calling out all New Yorkers. I apologise in advance for using the wrong thread.
There must be something here who can help a fellow punter in need.
Having been spoilt by the choices of FKK's in Germany; Austria and Zurich.
The punting scene in London; HK; China; Singapore; Bangkok and Malaysia. I am really.
Disapponted with the choices on offer in the Big Apple.
It should be renamed the Big Tease!
Only been to a few lap dancing places in Manhattan (Rick's; Flash Dancers; Dolls etc.)
And the bloody online Escort agencies are charging a whopping $500-$600 per hour.
For locals and EE girls I can get in FKK for 100 euros.
Can anyone recommend any online places or hidden houses in NYC. Tried all the papers
And there's NOTHING!
Please PM me. I'm sure to return the favour in the near future[/QUOTE]Have you tried it before? [url]www.craigslist.org[/url]
I met a few ladies NSA (w/o strings) through its ads. Who knows you may get lucky.
[QUOTE=Oakley08; 1162881]I regularly RTFF and I haven't seen hardly any reports of Chinese freelancers for awhile. Manhattan and Judy's are almost exclusively Thai, Phil and Viet these days.
Anyone know where these Chinese freelancers have gone? It seems that Xintiandi is the best bet. Anyone had any luck at Zapatas, Bar Rouge, etc recently?
Thanks,
Oak[/QUOTE]Actually zapatas was full of Chinese FL last weekend but a total disaster in looks. Malones was a little better. I also sat down at xintiandi starbucks for an hour but could not see anything.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1162812]Point #1 states "without leaving the airport", that means youbetter be not caught for whatever reason out of the airport (seems to me a sort of allowance to circulate in the international transit area)
Point #2 seems an opening for citizens of certain countries allowing the stay in Shangai. In this case I step back from my statemetns. . [/QUOTE]In case 1 you would not get through Immigration at Pudong. They simply would not allow you beyond the transit area.
Case 2 sounds like the so-called "Port visa". Available in theory but virtually impossible to arrange as no-one will know what you're talking about when you request it. I only know one person who has managed to enter by getting a "visa on arrival", and he had major connections through the HR department of a state-owned company. I think your chances of getting out of the airport without a valid visa are about zero. You might be able to get some company at a hotel in the transit area, if there is one. Sorry to be negative, but I wouldn't want you to spend your time under guard at a hotel before being shipped out on the next flight. I know of a person who had to do this, after the airline allowed him to board a flight into China with an expired visa.
[QUOTE=Ringer5; 1162943]In case 1 you would not get through Immigration at Pudong. They simply would not allow you beyond the transit area.
Case 2 sounds like the so-called "Port visa". Available in theory but virtually impossible to arrange as no-one will know what you're talking about when you request it. I only know one person who has managed to enter by getting a "visa on arrival", and he had major connections through the HR department of a state-owned company. I think your chances of getting out of the airport without a valid visa are about zero. You might be able to get some company at a hotel in the transit area, if there is one. Sorry to be negative, but I wouldn't want you to spend your time under guard at a hotel before being shipped out on the next flight. I know of a person who had to do this, after the airline allowed him to board a flight into China with an expired visa. [/QUOTE]Hi this is from my limited understanding.
The first case applies to all areas of China but the second case applies exclusively to Shanghai, thus only states Shanghai and nowhere else. Since I'm of Australian citizenship, I was under the impression that I could travel visa free for a limited number of hours while I wait for my connecting flight ONLY in Shanghai.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, thanks!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1162545]With no VISA you can forget about entering the country. My company has syring connection in the country and brings business to the country for many millions of $. Still we go through the hassle of a VISA. The quickest way for us is to use an agency in HK. I drop passport and photo to my hotel concierge at 1pm and get it back at 6pm with the visa on. Go imagine you handling this at the immigration office. Especially if you are in transit, with no reason to go to town. If that would be that easy tons of us would escape the procedure. The visa on arrival, available in some countries is a different story. Has still to be applied in advance by some local agency which applies to the immigration office. Then the name is in a list at the airport. Sorry to put down your hopes, but I am quite pessimistic on you entering PRC this way. Better chose another transit airport as I always do:BKK. In 13 hrs you can really do a lot there.[/QUOTE]From the official site of the Chinese Embassy in the USA:
&9733; Visa-free entry for visitors: No visa is required for ordinary passport holders from Singapore, Brunei and Japan to visit China for up to 15 days for business, sightseeing, visiting relatives and friends or transit.
&9733; Visa-free transit.
1. Visas are not required of aliens who hold air tickets to the final destination and have booked seats on international airliners flying directly through China, and will stay in a transit city for less than 24 hours without leaving the airport.
2. Visas are not required of passport holders of the following countries, who transit through Pudong Airport or Hongqiao Airport of Shanghai, provided they hold valid passports, visas for the onward countries, final destination tickets and have booked seats, and stay in Shanghai for less than 48 hours : Republic of Korea, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Austria, Greece, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Iceland.
Been there, done that. Make sure you've all the paperwork to proof that you have a confirmed seat on the next flight (boarding pass even better) and a visa for the next stop if required.
Deduct 2 hours to get out of the airport and to Shanghai and 3 hours to get back and in the plane and you've 8 hours left. That are at least 2 good f#cks and 2 excellent meals.
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1162974]Hi this is from my limited understanding.
The first case applies to all areas of China but the second case applies exclusively to Shanghai, thus only states Shanghai and nowhere else. Since I'm of Australian citizenship, I was under the impression that I could travel visa free for a limited number of hours while I wait for my connecting flight ONLY in Shanghai.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, thanks! [/QUOTE]You guys just need to go to the official website of the PRC foreign ministry to get the correct information.
[url]http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/xwrmq/[/url]
There are similar websites for most of the major countries with information for your specific country.
Please note that the visa free access to China is ONLY for travelers IN TRANSIT and for citizens of Singapore, Brunei and Japan; all others are required to have a valid visa to exit PRC airports.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Ringer5; 1162943]In case 1 you would not get through Immigration at Pudong. They simply would not allow you beyond the transit area.
Case 2 sounds like the so-called "Port visa". Available in theory but virtually impossible to arrange as no-one will know what you're talking about when you request it. I only know one person who has managed to enter by getting a "visa on arrival", and he had major connections through the HR department of a state-owned company. I think your chances of getting out of the airport without a valid visa are about zero. You might be able to get some company at a hotel in the transit area, if there is one. Sorry to be negative, but I wouldn't want you to spend your time under guard at a hotel before being shipped out on the next flight. I know of a person who had to do this, after the airline allowed him to board a flight into China with an expired visa. [/QUOTE]This is my same understanding.
If I were the guy in transit I would not expect much but enjoy the transit area of hte airport and, if he has credentials, a business lounge!
I don't recall PVG has an hotel in the transit area, so. I suggest the guy not be too much hopeful
[QUOTE=Toronto; 1162646][url]http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84242.htm[/url]
&9733; Visa-free transit.
1. Visas are not required of aliens who hold air tickets to the final destination and have booked seats on international airliners flying directly through China, and will stay in a transit city for less than 24 hours without leaving the airport.
2. Visas are not required of passport holders of the following countries, who transit through Pudong Airport or Hongqiao Airport of Shanghai, provided they hold valid passports, visas for the onward countries, final destination tickets and have booked seats, and stay in Shanghai for less than 48 hours : Republic of Korea, United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxemburg, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Austria, Greece, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Iceland. [/QUOTE]#2 is correct. I have used the transit visa twice in the past. And there are a few good hotels 5 or 10 minutes from the airport. You could take the maglev to longyang and transfer or just take subway line 2 to many of the hotels near the hotspots mentioned heresy
I found out that you can travel shanghai for up to 48 hours without a visa if you fall under their stated number of nationalities. Apparently, if you go to the immigration gate and show the officer your travelling documents to the forwarding country that is not the place you came from, you will be allowed to pass through. It's only for shanghai and it's only for the stated nationalities. I think this matter has been settled now! So I still need recommendations!
Thanks guys
[QUOTE=Oakley08; 1162881]I regularly RTFF and I haven't seen hardly any reports of Chinese freelancers for awhile. Manhattan and Judy's are almost exclusively Thai, Phil and Viet these days.
Anyone know where these Chinese freelancers have gone? It seems that Xintiandi is the best bet. Anyone had any luck at Zapatas, Bar Rouge, etc recently?
Thanks,
Oak[/QUOTE]For Chinese FL, I would go to Malones first, then Judy's next. Malones gets quite a few Chinese girls. Things get going later in the evening and there is a good band there that makes the waiting enjoyable.
If a girl is alone, she is a WG. Make eye contact and she will usually come over and start talking to you. Most speak a little English. Judy's would be my second stop. It's a 5 minute walk from Malone's. As other posters have said, Manhattan is mainly Philly's and Viets.
AL
[QUOTE=AsianLover; 1163155]For Chinese FL, I would go to Malones first, then Judy's next. Malones gets quite a few Chinese girls. Things get going later in the evening and there is a good band there that makes the waiting enjoyable.
If a girl is alone, she is a WG. Make eye contact and she will usually come over and start talking to you. Most speak a little English. Judy's would be my second stop. It's a 5 minute walk from Malone's. As other posters have said, Manhattan is mainly Philly's and Viets.
AL[/QUOTE]I am going to Shanghai later this month for the first time visiting China. I would love to know what you mean by WG and the adresses to the places you talk about. /Jonas
[QUOTE=SockerGalten;1163157]I am going to Shanghai later this month for the first time visiting China. I would love to know what you mean by WG and the adresses to the places you talk about. /Jonas[/QUOTE]WG = Working Girl.
Couple of places to get you started:
999 = 999 Tianyaoqiao Road (&22825; &38053; &26725; &36335; 999&21495.
Heting Elite = 3rd Floor. 777 Si Ping Road.
Sarcosa = 5th Floor, Hua Shan Tower. 1085 Pudou Road (S)
The 88 bar / club has mostly Chinese fl but they mainly cater to Chinese guys. Its on Fumin Lu at Changle Lu. Near the mexican restaurant cantina agave. Look for the stairs going to 2nd floor.
[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1161614]How about contributing first?
Tis more blessed to give, than to receive.
Twas what my Sunday school teacher taught me, and although I have discarded almost all of her other advice, I have retained this.
P13[/QUOTE]Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately except contributing "Do not go to the Shanghai Hotel because it is a total waste of money", I don't have any good address besides a "regular" full body oil massage for 208 that I can pm you on request.
Now for your teacher, think about this quote:"Pure generosity is when you help the ingrate. Every other form is self-serving".
6th floor massage place in the markets. Gave it a whirl. Kinda old looking Chinese decor. Had to pay upfront (680). Change in a smaller private room with lockers. No lineup, they said they were busy and only 1 girl. It didn't appear busy. Girl presented was not a stunner but not unacceptable. Back in the room she was playful and almost GFE. Nice breasts, slim but kinda wide hips and tall legs. Her enthusiasm made up for any lack of spunk. Didn't get her number. Not even sure they have tags there but she is from Anhui. They all wear tracksuit style outfits. We skipped the tongue bath and rim. Straight into it. DFK and DATY no problem. I lasted quite long with her so I enjoyed myself. Sometimes sauna girls get you all worked up so you come faster. She was more GFE. I belted her pretty hard, she really enjoyed it.
I don't know if I'd repeat there as it's poor selection, kinda weird and rooms average. I probably wouldn't repeat girl either, although a great girl, there are too many other sexier girls out there.
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[QUOTE=White Dragon; 1164320]6th floor massage place in the markets. Gave it a whirl. Kinda old looking Chinese decor. Had to pay upfront (680). Change in a smaller private room with lockers. No lineup, they said they were busy and only 1 girl. It didn't appear busy. Girl presented was not a stunner but not unacceptable. Back in the room she was playful and almost GFE. Nice breasts, slim but kinda wide hips and tall legs. Her enthusiasm made up for any lack of spunk. Didn't get her number. Not even sure they have tags there but she is from Anhui. They all wear tracksuit style outfits. We skipped the tongue bath and rim. Straight into it. DFK and DATY no problem. I lasted quite long with her so I enjoyed myself. Sometimes sauna girls get you all worked up so you come faster. She was more GFE. I belted her pretty hard, she really enjoyed it.
I don't know if I'd repeat there as it's poor selection, kinda weird and rooms average. I probably wouldn't repeat girl either, although a great girl, there are too many other sexier girls out there. [/QUOTE]I assume you are referring to Feng Ding Yuan Club. You are not the first to report that there is no lineup. However I never heard of paying up front.
I had 2 nights in Shanghai next month and was staying at the Westin on the Bund so this place was convenient. Maybe I will just go to Heting Elite both nights as it is close by also.
I'm new to Shanghai, though I got a lot of Asian paysex experiences. I went to Manhattan today, picked up a sweet Vietnamese girl. She was really nice in the bar and in the taxi, hugging, kissing, touching. In the room she demanded her money first. I said no way. She asked again and again. I told her that she can go back if she doesn't trust me. She left without any money. She told me everybody pays before sex. Is this true? I can't believe it and I will never do it.
A few weeks ago I visited ShangHai again. I had a few evenings off so visited a few revenue's I have not been before."The adventure" of going to unknown places attracts me the most. Even tho sometimes it's a big miss.
My first evening off I wrote down the adresses to Sacrosa and Bodi. Because it was already 1 AM and Bodi was closest to my hotel. It is there I went.
Bodi is a bit off the normal streets. It's a parrallel road to the elevated highway. Not a place you would casually stumble upon. When facing the hotel (Bodi is a hotel!) take the most left door you see, do not enter through the hotel lobby.
Upon entering I was taken directly up to the line-up. There were still some customers in the wet area, but I wasn't given the opportunity to use the wet-area. Probably because it was already 1. 30 AM when I arrived. Felt a bit strange to be taken through the building all clothed (when you're used to travel them in your PJ's) but. No problem, just go with the flow.
Line up was nice. Around 25 girls there. About 5 of them smiling like I was a movie star. I took the one with the biggest smile. Altho she didn't have the posture I usually fancy. Good choise in service tho.
Into a small elevator we went up to a room with a large soapie area. Nothing fancy, just the standard Sauna. Got a nice soapie and wash, back to the bedroom section: 3 pops in various positions. All good. Girl tried to convince me that after 20 minutes and 1 pop that was it (but refused to leave when I mentioned: "sure go.") LOL. Don't be fooled gents. You are entitled to at least 90 minutes service and as much pops as she can give you (most of their customers are content with 2)
Showering again, clothed and back down. Damage was around 600 RMB. Don't forget to grab a complimentary fist of sweets at the counter and stick 1 of their fancy lighters with flashlights in your pocket.
A cab was waiting outside, so I could get in and return to my hotel quite easilly.
Below the business card of Bodi
[QUOTE=ShanghaiNights; 1164317]Thank you for the advice. Unfortunately except contributing "Do not go to the Shanghai Hotel because it is a total waste of money", I don't have any good address besides a "regular" full body oil massage for 208 that I can pm you on request.
Now for your teacher, think about this quote:"Pure generosity is when you help the ingrate. Every other form is self-serving". [/QUOTE]Seen the level of contributions in this forum, as a result of other people's time spent in reporting, it doesn't look like your contributions add more to the cause. With tens and tens (to say the least) of pages with reports, maps, prices, addresses, the ingrates have already been blessed and given.
Maybe they don't know yet, as they still have to' RTFF yet!
[QUOTE=Mgfoal;1164731]I'm new to Shanghai, though I got a lot of Asian paysex experiences. I went to Manhattan today, picked up a sweet Vietnamese girl. She was really nice in the bar and in the taxi, hugging, kissing, touching. In the room she demanded her money first. I said no way. She asked again and again. I told her that she can go back if she doesn't trust me. She left without any money. She told me everybody pays before sex. Is this true? I can't believe it and I will never do it.[/QUOTE]Well done, Mgfoal!
Think of how much money you saved. . . Or the lousy service that you missed out on. . . If you had paid beforehand.
Never pay before.
Just my experience.
P13
[QUOTE=Davidlaolee; 1163173]WG = Working Girl.
Couple of places to get you started:
999 = 999 Tianyaoqiao Road (&22825; &38053; &26725; &36335; 999&21495.
Heting Elite = 3rd Floor. 777 Si Ping Road.
Sarcosa = 5th Floor, Hua Shan Tower. 1085 Pudou Road (S) [/QUOTE]A small (but critical) correction, Pudou = Pudong.
Ask the driver for Pudong Nan Lu / Ba Bai Ban!
I'm a sauna guy with a trip to a soapy now and then. At one of the venues I frequent the payment is collected first. All of the others it is collected after the service. YMMV
Visited 999 first time.
Easy to find. Take subway line 4 get off stadium (not indoor stadium) , take exit 3, and continue for 5 minutes on the street until you black building with red acanopy on left side of the street.
Standard procedure. Shower, some boys offer muscle massage, than to fish bowl, guy push to take 2 girls, but I didn't. Took 871. Nice rack, but no English.
First soapy massage (breast + ass) massage on bed in shower. Nice feeling, but too much fake moan.
Than back to bed with some massage, cat bath, BBBJ. BBBJ so so only and quite short.
Than rubber mounted started with cow girl, reverse cowgirl, miss. I must very, very tight down under. I could't stand long and came. After a few minutes break, new rubber and again FS.
Than taking a rest with hugging. After 20 minutes she went out to get another rubber and third round without need asking.
Damage 800
[QUOTE=Davidlaolee; 1163173]WG = Working Girl.
Couple of places to get you started:
999 = 999 Tianyaoqiao Road (&22825; &38053; &26725; &36335; 999&21495.
Heting Elite = 3rd Floor. 777 Si Ping Road.
Sarcosa = 5th Floor, Hua Shan Tower. 1085 Pudou Road (S) [/QUOTE]Thank you my friend very much
[QUOTE=Laowei137;1164777]Don't be fooled gents. You are entitled to at least 90 minutes service and as much pops as she can give you (most of their customers are content with 2) Showering again, clothed and back down. Damage was around 600 RMB. Don't forget to grab a complimentary fist of sweets at the counter and stick 1 of their fancy lighters with flashlights in your pocket.[/QUOTE]When I went there two weeks ago (day time) , it was RMB 800 for ca. 70 min, did they change their time / price?
Thanks, RMB 600 sounds really good
[QUOTE=Zarcady; 1163062]I found out that you can travel shanghai for up to 48 hours without a visa if you fall under their stated number of nationalities. Apparently, if you go to the immigration gate and show the officer your travelling documents to the forwarding country that is not the place you came from, you will be allowed to pass through. It's only for shanghai and it's only for the stated nationalities. I think this matter has been settled now! So I still need recommendations!
Thanks guys[/QUOTE]I am corrected. I'd never heard of anyone using this process successfully. My general experience of the local immigration processes makes me very wary of trying to use variations. For example, local people will not be allowed to check in for a flight to Thailand without a Thai visa, although the Thai Airlines local website says they can get a visa on arrival in Bangkok. The catch is that Chinese immigration will not allow them to leave without a visa!
To get back to your original question. 13 hours will give you plenty of time to visit Bodi or Sacrosa, both well served by Maglev or Metro from the airport. You should also have time for a look around. I would suggest a stroll along and dinner at one of the restaurants on the river. Good luck. Enjoy your visit!
For those who prefer to stay in, there are several possibilities that I've found.
Pick up a copy of Shanghai Daily newspaper (2 RMB) or may already be delivered to your hotel room. Go to Classifieds and find Massage section. After calling several numbers, typical range of quotes for massage only is 250-300 RMB, and FS inclusive is 700-800 RMB. After some haggling, one number quoted 600 RMB for FS only w / o massage. The final number is going to be somewhat higher as girls will ask for taxi fare, and some may request additional for BJ. So it helps to be very specific on the phone as to service included. Typical quality I've seen is girl next door type.
If you are staying at 5 star hotels, chances you if you wandered outside in the evening time, you will be approached and given cards for massage in hotel room. Numbers I've been quoted was generally about 800 RMB FS inclusive. Some offer girls from Russia and Korea, but cost may be 200-400 RMB higher. If you feel adventurous, you can follow them to their establishment which is probably a massage place, and the cost is typically lower and you can have your pick as opposed to having one sent for you. I might try that option at a later time.
Another option has pre-requisite. After visiting a sauna or massage place so that they know you are safe, you can inquire mama-san or papa-san if they offer in-room service. If you have found a favorite or memorized number of girls on your previous visit, you can request for the specific number of your choice. As been posted by many, price of massage does not include extra service so you will need to negotiate with the girl for the specifics.
[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1165063]When I went there two weeks ago (day time) , it was RMB 800 for ca. 70 min, did they change their time / price?
Thanks, RMB 600 sounds really good[/QUOTE]I am sorry. You are right. Had to recheck my notes and my written 6 was a badly scribbled 8. 800 RMB for the service (better take 2 or 3 of those nifty lighters.) The 90 minutes was correct tho.
Did you stay untill the lobby called, or did the girl call the loby? I've experienced in the past that the girls sometimes try to cut the service a few minutes. They then call the lobby themselves and tell that the customer is satisfied after 2/3rd or 3/4th of the service and wants to leave. Many of us westerners don't understand any chinese, so many times they get away with it.
second night out i went to try out sacrosa for the first time, i arrived there around 21:00.
sacrosa was, as noted by other posters before, a tad difficult to find. it's not directly at the road. it's more like a small square area, on the inside.
after entering the dressing room i was getting a bad feeling about sacrosa. the floor of the clothing room looked like an ashtray with many holes in it from burned sigarettes. entering into the wet area the bad feeling stayed: a smell of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] and an overall look of dirtyness. this sauna realy is on it's way back and i would expect the local clientell to already have found more upgraded and modernized sauna's. it's not actually the worst sauna i ever visited, but comes close and is realy at the very low of any list.
i was directed to a small room to wait for the line up and was offered a tea. after 30 minutes i was called and brought to the narrow hallway to a line-up of 2 girls (the place must have been busy) both the girls were looking at their feet, like they did not wanted me to see their faces. since a personal click (in some way) is important to me i had to reject both the girls. i was brought back to the small room and was told i had to wait 30 more minutes for the next line-up.
after 30 minutes they came again and took me to the same spot: the same two girls were the only option. do they think this loawan is silly? so again i rejected and was brought back to my room to wait some more. 30 minutes later i was taken again and now there was a line-up of 8 girls. the process already took 1. 5 hours and because neither of these new girls looked very happy i decided to call it a night and headed out (which was a very very good choise, see my next report)
damage: 88 rmb for using the facilities (this includes the drinks and the sweets that filled my pocket when i left)
below the business card of sacrosa
Have recently joined after doing some reading about other cities. Living in Shanghai has its advantages, especially when the baggage is away. Let me share a bit.
First a report on Sarcosa (or the "5th floor" as we call it). Decided Friday, I needed a little R&R, so stopped by after work. After a shower, sauna and hot tub, off the the resting room, then to the line-up. Picked 261 (7. 5/10) , a nice Hubei girl. After reaching the room, she asked if I wanted 2. What the hell. She said it was her Yunnan friend. I have not had Yunnan before (working in checking off all the provinces) , so I manned up. Yunnan was not as nice (6. 5/10) as Hubei, but I was committed.
After all stripping down, I got the back slurp tongue massage, then "fangoulai". On turning over, Yunnan proceed with a spectacular BBBJ while Hubei cowgirled my face. Then mounted up Hubei first, miss, cowgirl / reverse, etc. Then on to Yunnan. While doing Yunnan doggy, Hubei was playing with herself fingers inserted. That all just got me going, so I had to go back to Hubei. Had her reserve cowgirl with Yunnan meagerly sucking her breasts (have had better G on G in Dongguan, but that is another story). Finished up with a "ni hen lihai", had a smoke and short chat, then off to the shower. Damage 676+500 for #2. I would not hit the place late, they open at 11AM, most of the girls work 13 hour days, shifts run from 11am to midnight or 1PM to 2AM, so get there when the girls are fresh and selection is good.
On to other things. For those who like MP's, at Weifang Lu and PuDongNan Lu there are 3 in a row. I have not tried them all. But Tequila has a good rep. Last time I was in, had a shower. 2 hour oil massage and HE. Of course, all her clothes off. Usual damage is about 400 for 2 hours, can get a 20% discount with a VIP card, usually means 1000 pre-pay. The girls will push it, as they get a cut for each VIP sign-up. Also, if you frequent regulary and build rapport with a WG, she will "waimai" (take-out). My experience is that they hit your VIP account for a 2 hour charge, and you tip-up with the WG usually 200-300.
If you are staying out in the Pudong 'burds near JinQiao, try My Spa (a MP) on MingYue Lu and BaihuaLu. It is next to a DVD shop. Have had a reasonable FS there. Number 9 was a good fun gal.
For another place similar to Sarcosa, try the Merilyn Hotel on ZhangYang Lu and LaoShan Lu (just down from Century Avenue and directly across from the Intercontinental Hotel). You head in through the lobby to the 3rd floor. Does not have the sauna, etc running at lunch time. Usual damage 688.
Just got back into town this week after a few months back in the states. Walked down Laoshan toward Qixia yesterday, and noticed plenty of BBSs that weren't there just a few months ago. Probably 4 or 5 between Century and Qixia on Loashan itself and around the corner toward the tunnel.
Stopped at the little string of foot massage places on Qixia right under the elevated walkway there about 2 blocks from the Eaton and got our feet torn up by the ladies there. They of course worked the upsell hard to the back area, and managed to negotiate an all-inclusive rate of 200 RMB for 1 hour foot massage. 1 hour body massage with extras included. The girl allowed full access to everytihng, and offered FS (though I just stuck to the negotiated handy).
Discovered an interesting BBS recently in the middle of the city where I would never have expected this to be allowed. It is a small shop with 6-10 girls waiting inside. No stunners but certainly not ugly either, looks 4-7.
You chose one and she then will take you to another building next door. It is a quite big apartment with 3-4 individual rooms, only fitted with a mattress on the floor. Not very clean but I have seen much worse. I still like the idea of being in a different building than the actual BBS, gives me a safer feeling somehow.
The girl was quite pretty with quite big natural boobs and seemed to enjoy the session. I might have had one beer too many so wasn't able to finish off although she tried very hard. Gave up after 1 h or so.
Damage was 400 kuai (not negotiated) , I guess they would accept 300 too.
It is a quite small place and I am worried that prices will go up if I post the location here, so I rather won't. After all the crackdowns during Expo some good places seem to return to the city eventually.
Just keep your eyes open!
Why writing a report without giving the locations?
I really doubt that the price goes up if you publish the location on this board.
After having left Sacrosa I had the intention to return to Bodi. The taxi driver was chatty and he told me that some of his previous customers went to a different high end Spa. It was on the way to Bodi, so no detour, and I could have a look if I wanted, he would wait outside. Usually I do not endulge on these kind of proposals, but this time the driver seemed realy a honnest person.
This was probably the first time in China I was not "taken" by a cabby.
The taxi drove up to the JingJiang Orient Hotel (previously the PuDong Sofitel) , past the side of the hotel and to the back. It's the same building as the hotel, it just has a different entrance at the back.
Upon entering: clean, well lit, hotel lobby look. I was asked which menu I preferred: the 750 RMB one or the 1200 RMB one. Here's where being the Foreigner comes in Handy: I asked if I could be shown the difference. Turns out the difference was just the type of rooms you are given. The 750 RMB menu is just a regular room (with porn on the TV) and the 1200 RMB version is a big room with your own jacuzzi, shower area and."a gynological chair". The line-up of girls in both sections are the same. This is China: You pay different for the same service, the difference is the entourage you get the service in.
I choose the 750 RMB version. The wet area is probably the best I've ever seen in ShangHai (only topped by a realy top-of-the-line Spa in BeiJing) Clean, fresh, big pool with jet-streams. Clean, fresh smelling showers with jets. A bubble bath that didn't look like someone had masturbated in it. Upto then a big +++
I was directed up the stairs and into a clean waiting area and offered a drink. A mommy turned up with 30 little lasses in tow. Each dressed differently: some in uniforms, some in beach-style pants and tops. The girls introduced themselves one by one and (with mommy's entheusiasm helping here) I had a chitchat with each of the girls. Tough choise (for the first time!) about 5 girls stood out to my liking. Ofcourse mommy proposed me to take 2 (no thanks). After a bit I made my choise and off we went into a clean (a bit small) hotel-room-like room. 90 minutes and 5 pops later the telephone rang and it was time to leave. Exchanged telephone numbers with my lady and we walked hand-in-hand back to the stairs down.
The best Sauna in ShangHai upto now (albe-it I think G-18 was also a great one)
Below the business card of Dream Spa and pictures of the 1200 RMB room.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer; 1165403]Why writing a report without giving the locations?
I really doubt that the price goes up if you publish the location on this board. [/QUOTE]I also have some doubts about the latest trend of including business cards with the reports.
On one hand, I think this is like telling LE where to go hunting for foreigners to meet the quota.
On the other hand, local LE probably already knew what was going on anyway.
i have been reading past posts for an upcoming trip to shanghai but i'm unclear on a few things. it's my 1st trip to china and there's a couple questions i got.
1. manhatten. if taking a lt, should i be hiding my passport / money in the room? seems no one has mentioned waking up and finding the girl gone and things missing (different story in brazil). bring own condoms or girl has them?
2. sauna wet area. the wet area of saunas has been mentioned before but most of the explanations are kinda brief. makes sense as most time is spent describing the girls / action. but having never been to a chinese sauna before, i'm having trouble picturing it. i thought i had an idea of what it was but one post confused me as it made it seem like bodi had individual wet areas. people also mention a pool and sauna.
so this makes me think of a roman pool where chicks serve you wine and grapes. (undoubtedly incorrect) there is a large size pool. in the vicinity, there is a sauna you may go to. you sit around the pool and get drinks / foot massage. this area is shared by all the clients who use the sauna / pool before / after the girl. tell me what of my mental image is correct / incorrect. i'm particulary interested in bodi and this new spa dream as they seem popular.
[quote=dave_far;1165532]1. manhatten. if taking a lt, should i be hiding my passport / money in the room? seems no one has mentioned waking up and finding the girl gone and things missing (different story in brazil). bring own condoms or girl has them?[/quote]
upto you if you want to hide your things. you are taking a stranger into your room... one that possibly can disappear without a trace the next day...
always bring your own condoms (even when you goto a bbs or sauna) so you know they won't pressure you for just one pop "because their condoms have run out after you used the first one".
[quote=dave_far;1165532]as it made it seem like bodi had individual wet areas[/quote]
some spa's don't have a big wet-area. there is always some place to shower and fresh up tho. if there's no big wet-area then the spa will have a big shower room in your room.
oh... and not commonly known by punters. most spa's also operate as a hotel. often you are free to spend the rest of the night in your room (free of extra charge)
[quote=dave_far;1165532]so this makes me think of a roman pool where chicks serve you wine and grapes. (undoubtedly incorrect)[/quote]
indeed incorrect. keep in mind that all venues are different. but there are some common things about wet-area's in chinese spa's:
- women and men are strictly seperated. so any and all creature you see in the wet-area is a male.
- it is not uncommon in chinese spa's that one of the guys that work in the area will help you scrub your back, or dry it with a towel. that isn't homosexual behaviour, it's simply providing a service. if you don't want any assistance, simply smile and say "wo bujaole, xiexie". ("i don't want, thank you")
- you will be offered a pair of pyamma's when you leave the wet-area to the resting area.
- most spa's have a "resting area". a seperate room where you can enjoy some drinks and have food after you used the wet-area. sometimes it's a big shared restaurant like room (with an all-you-can-eat buffet), sometimes a seperate small room with just 2 loungy chairs, a tv and a small bowl of melon. sometimes the room is shared by both sexes (just guests: males, females and children) sometimes they are also seperated.
- most of the times you will be able to get a foot massage in the resting area.
- the "service" area is usually in a seperate area.
- modus of operation: undress -> wet area -> resting area -> service area -> resting area -> wet area -> dress
just ask for "angmoh" (phonetic) it means "massage", mostly used for "fs"
[QUOTE=Dave_Far;1165532]I1. Manhatten. If taking a LT, should I be hiding my passport / money in the room? .[/QUOTE]I would always hide passoport and not needed cash, even if I do not (or plan to) take anyone back in the room.
If I take, well, hidden money is safer!
Just eventually keep some cash for a possible girl fee, hidden in a drawer or somewhere.
So you do not have to open the safer to pay her. Not taht she is going to rob you at that stage, o rbeing obsessed, but precautions are never enough.
Simple thinking wise
[QUOTE=Carage; 1165516]I also have some doubts about the latest trend of including business cards with the reports.
On one hand, I think this is like telling LE where to go hunting for foreigners to meet the quota.
On the other hand, local LE probably already knew what was going on anyway. [/QUOTE]Let me say it'd be naif to think LE does not know about any of these places as you can see what they are just by walking on the street.
The fact they freely distribute business cards is a sort of advertisement.
If they want to keep all discrete they would not do so, they would reject foreigners (as at the end as a whole foreigners are not bringing much business at the end of the day)
That mean a sauba or spa behaving more like the HD in Japan where a gajin is sent back, with no access.
True LE does not want that the news spread around too much to the western world as they thinki it gives a bad publicity and media might take it as a big news, transforming Shangai in a sin city (just as Thailand is rated a "sex tourist destination, even if th mongerers maybe are only 5 or 10% of the visitors)
I don't think anyhow it makes much harm to indicate lcoation of spas.
Might be more debatable to indicate what is going on behing the closed doors of a KTV as in some of there could be quite wild actions that LE is not happy to know much even amongst locals.
My few cents.
Thanks for the responses regarding my questions.
So if there is a pool, you supposed to bring swimming trunks?
Laowei,
It appears you found a new favorite in Dream Spa. I like the idea that the girls introduce themselves one by one to give you more time to evaluate. You mentioned that there were about 30 girls. Can you comment on the looks on average compared to Bodi? And what time where you there since they had such a large selection? Cheers
[QUOTE=Dave_Far;1165601]So if there is a pool, you supposed to bring swimming trunks?[/QUOTE]You're funny man. The "pool" is basically like a huge bath or hot tub. Not to swim in. The wet area is were you go after you have taken off your clothes in the locker area. You have a towel, that's it. Most of the time I just take a shower, dry off and go to the massage rooms after putting on the pajamas. Sometimes I go into the sauna or steam room. If you go into the "pool" you will be naked, most of the time I have seem a group of guy all in together. Not a gay thing just socialising.
[QUOTE=Dave_Far; 1165601]Thanks for the responses regarding my questions.
So if there is a pool, you supposed to bring swimming trunks? [/QUOTE]Not really. In a Chinese sauna / spa you use the wet services naked, don't need to be shy.
It is all men, but nobody will measure you! LOL.
They will give yo the house shorts / top to go to the other common areas
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1165577]Let me say it'd be naif to think LE does not know about any of these places as you can see what they are just by walking on the street.
The fact they freely distribute business cards is a sort of advertisement. [/QUOTE]Yes but it is accepted as long as it is not too much "in your face" I don't think posting business cards esp with a persons name on it is a good idea. If it is not low key enough, LE have to take action for their own reputation.
[QUOTE=BJK;1165609]Yes but it is accepted as long as it is not too much "in your face" I don't think posting business cards esp with a persons name on it is a good idea. If it is not low key enough, LE have to take action for their own reputation.[/QUOTE]I agree on the name matter. Should have been removed
Hi,
I am in town for a couple days and staying at the Mandarin. Can you guys help point me in the right direction? I live in China but my Chinese is horrible.
I woud like to go out and find a 2 or 3 girl night, any help is much appreciated and promise to post reviews and results.
TC
Hi,
Tried posting this earlier and not sure if it will double post but at the JC Mandarin and looking to have some fun while I am here. Would like to find 2 to 3 girls for the night or somewhere close that I cn have a great time.
I will post details from your helpful suggestions and numbers if they are available.
[quote=laowei137; 1165504]after having left sacrosa i had the intention to return to bodi. the taxi driver was chatty and he told me that some of his previous customers went to a different high end spa. it was on the way to bodi, so no detour, and i could have a look if i wanted, he would wait outside. usually i do not endulge on these kind of proposals, but this time the driver seemed realy a honnest person.
this was probably the first time in china i was not "taken" by a cabby.
the taxi drove up to the jingjiang orient hotel (previously the pudong sofitel) , past the side of the hotel and to the back. it's the same building as the hotel, it just has a different entrance at the back.
upon entering: clean, well lit, hotel lobby look. i was asked which menu i preferred: the 750 rmb one or the 1200 rmb one. here's where being the foreigner comes in handy: i asked if i could be shown the difference. turns out the difference was just the type of rooms you are given. the 750 rmb menu is just a regular room (with porn on the tv) and the 1200 rmb version is a big room with your own jacuzzi, shower area and."a gynological chair". the line-up of girls in both sections are the same. this is china: you pay different for the same service, the difference is the entourage you get the service in.
i choose the 750 rmb version. the wet area is probably the best i've ever seen in shanghai (only topped by a realy top-of-the-line spa in beijing) clean, fresh, big pool with jet-streams. clean, fresh smelling showers with jets. a bubble bath that didn't look like someone had masturbated in it. upto then a big +++
i was directed up the stairs and into a clean waiting area and offered a drink. a mommy turned up with 30 little lasses in tow. each dressed differently: some in uniforms, some in beach-style pants and tops. the girls introduced themselves one by one and (with mommy's entheusiasm helping here) i had a chitchat with each of the girls. tough choise (for the first time!) about 5 girls stood out to my liking. ofcourse mommy proposed me to take 2 (no thanks). after a bit i made my choise and off we went into a clean (a bit small) hotel-room-like room. 90 minutes and 5 pops later the telephone rang and it was time to leave. exchanged telephone numbers with my lady and we walked hand-in-hand back to the stairs down.
the best sauna in shanghai upto now (albe-it i think g-18 was also a great one)
below the business card of dream spa and pictures of the 1200 rmb room. [/quote]did you pay the cab driver?
any thoughts on giving him the congressional medal of honor (if you are from the us) , or trying to organize a "life peerage" if you are from uk?
p13
You can PM me for the location, just didn't want to publish openly on the board!
[QUOTE=Halloerstmal; 1165389]Discovered an interesting BBS recently in the middle of the city where I would never have expected this to be allowed. It is a small shop with 6-10 girls waiting inside. No stunners but certainly not ugly either, looks 4-7.
You chose one and she then will take you to another building next door. It is a quite big apartment with 3-4 individual rooms, only fitted with a mattress on the floor. Not very clean but I have seen much worse. I still like the idea of being in a different building than the actual BBS, gives me a safer feeling somehow.
The girl was quite pretty with quite big natural boobs and seemed to enjoy the session. I might have had one beer too many so wasn't able to finish off although she tried very hard. Gave up after 1 h or so.
Damage was 400 kuai (not negotiated) , I guess they would accept 300 too.
It is a quite small place and I am worried that prices will go up if I post the location here, so I rather won't. After all the crackdowns during Expo some good places seem to return to the city eventually.
Just keep your eyes open! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Halloerstmal;1165684]You can PM me for the location, just didn't want to publish openly on the board![/QUOTE]Come on man, just post the location.
[QUOTE=Laowei137; 1165192]I am sorry. You are right. Had to recheck my notes and my written 6 was a badly scribbled 8. 800 RMB for the service (better take 2 or 3 of those nifty lighters.) The 90 minutes was correct tho.
Did you stay untill the lobby called, or did the girl call the loby? I've experienced in the past that the girls sometimes try to cut the service a few minutes. They then call the lobby themselves and tell that the customer is satisfied after 2/3rd or 3/4th of the service and wants to leave. Many of us westerners don't understand any Chinese, so many times they get away with it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification, was already worried I overpaid. Can't remember who called whom, in some saunas they have a clock in the room or the girl brings a clock. Time starts only to count after they come back to the room with their bag of tricks though, then they call the reception to say they start or something. Sometimes after the deed with plenty of time left, the girl just lies next to you without doing anything, some make an attempt at another round of FS or HJ / massage, it really depends. Also I often have no energy left for a second one, so enjoy the cuddling. Respect that you managed to pop three times, how did you pull that of, I mean time- and energy wise, are you a Superman or use some enhancers?
[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1163866]The 88 bar / club has mostly Chinese fl but they mainly cater to Chinese guys. Its on Fumin Lu at Changle Lu. Near the mexican restaurant cantina agave. Look for the stairs going to 2nd floor.[/QUOTE]Was there last night but had trouble telling the FL from the rest of the crowd, mainly couples and groups of local. One lonely laowai nursing his drink at the bar. Its a big place with nooks and crannies but any advice where to look for the FL is apprechiated.
I took a few trips, so please excuse the length. Thank you to all the posters here who posted up detailed reports in Shanghai. Hope this contributes in some way back to you guys. Finally, my Chinese is pretty good so let me know if you guys need help with characters, translations, etc.
1. Went to Chengjiaqiao first in the evening. Took the fork that goes west, Jinhui Lu, and encountered a group of BBSes tucked into the alleys. As another poster mentioned, this area is somewhat dark and this specific alley was obviously a lower class residential area, but I am very certain they are used to clients and didn't pay me any attention despite the fact that I very likely stood out. Actually they weren't even BBSes, just brightly lit rooms with couches and WGs sitting on them. The actual bedrooms were off in a separate alley about 20m away. Entrance to bedrooms was only through a locked door, to which only the WGs had keys. I thought the setup was fairly clever as if there were any LE raids, you'd be separate from the BBS venue itself. Plus they had what I realized later were lookouts all over the street. Definitely made this more viable as you have some peace of mind.
Was very impressed by the selection here. Each BBS had between 2 to 7 WGs each, and they ranged from 5s to 8s. At least half were early 20s. Just FS is 150, FS + BBBJ is 200. Didn't bother negotiating. Chose a girl and was told she did FS only, no BJ. Said it was ok, and embarrassingly I couldn't get it up without a BJ first. I blame jetlag! She wouldn't budge on not offering BJ, and instead suggested I add a 2nd girl who would be willing to do BBBJ for an additional 200 (with the standard FS for both girls). I wasn't too happy, but it seemed fair, so I went for it with her assurances her friend was good at BBBJ. 2nd girl wasn't very attractive (maybe a 6) , but amazingly her BBBJ technique was incredible. The best I've ever had, perhaps a 9 on technique. Was so good I just kept her with just BBBJ, though no CIM unfortunately. 350 total damage, mostly my fault. The 2nd girl was a trooper with the BBBJ, she spent a lot of time and effort on it so I really can't complain.
2. Went back to Chengjiaqiao, this time during the afternoon on Saturday. The BBSes on Jinhui were completely closed. I guess they don't really start until 6/7pm? Perhaps they have day jobs? I went over to the other fork that heads east (on Chengjiaqiao Lu proper). Were some tired looking older WGs in the BBSes along the main road about 100m down from the fork. Not too impressed, best I saw was maybe a 5 or 6 and probably late 20s. Instead I took a taxi to Southern. Directions are exactly as described here, and the Google Maps location is 100% accurate.
Southern during the Saturday was quite busy. Guys coming in and out at regular intervals. The guys at the front desk realized it was my first time and told me the price was 800. I said sure and was whisked inside. This was my first time in a sauna, and I was really impressed. Guys helping you along the way with great service. Chatted with a few of them while changing (I thought a bit awkward but typical procedure for them, I guess) , and they were really quite friendly. I know I'm here for other things, but the level of service was like they were running a high class restaurant or a legitimate MP. Waited just a few minutes with a drink and TV before I was brought to the fishbowl where there were a couple other guys looking.
About 20 girls in the line up. I thought Chengjiaqiao was impressive the other night, but this just floored me. The lineup had a minimum of 6, up to a few 9s, all 20s in age. Chose a 21yo from Hunan, really cute face (9/10) , medium height, skinny body (8. 5/10). A bit of a feisty personality too. She's only been in Shanghai for 2 months, and made a comment about how large junior was (surprising as I am quite average). Did the routine as has been described here. Shower, soapy massage, strange water mouth thing, then BBBJ and FS. Asked to finish with BBBJ. Again no CIM, so finished by HJ. Service was good, though I assume that is pretty standard fare for saunas. Definitely would recommend Southern.
3. Last trip, went out to Chengjiaqiao again in the early evening. Went directly to the alleyway off Jinhui Lu. The shop I went to last time was closed. Later one of the papasans told me most of the shops closed for dinner. Selection was still great though, around 4 BBSes were still open with a selection of 2-5 WGs each. I chose a 7 from Jiangsu. 21yo who hasn't been doing this long. FS with BBBJ for 200, standard price as with all the shops here. BBBJ was short with this girl and she rushed me through all of the FS. I wanted to finish with BBBJ, and she was only willing to do a few minutes before switching to a HJ. But with some resting she was able to do enough BBBJ and finished with HJ (no CIM either). The girl was fun to converse with though, definitely had a great sense of humor. Did some GFE services (no kissing but a lot of contact). Even though service was rushed and she complained often, I was happy considering it's a BBS and what I paid.
Met a FL girl recently in a club in Xintiandi.
She said for 20. 000 RMB per month she would be available exclusively to me, anytime after office hours and on weekends.
Something Chinese would refer to as "er nai" I guess (second milk / second breast).
Interesting thought somehow. Anybody got experiecne with this kind of arrangement?
There was a discussion recently in this thread on this topic but I don't recall anybody actually went for it.
Hey Guys,
We found a lot of useful informations for our webpage
[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com[/url]
Here, so I also want to give something back. A lot of people here ask how to find the place. In the attachment you find location cards of some important places you should know. If you load the pictures on your mobile phone, you can show it to the taxi driver and he will bring you there, even you can not speak any Chinese (and you don`t have to ask anyone for help)
Attached location cards:
- 999 Jiu Yian Sauna.
- Sacrosa Sauna.
- Manhattan Club (Pickup Place)
- Zabatas (Pickup Places)
- Bar Rouge (Pickup Place)
- Hai Lang (Sauna)
- Nanjing Market (fake Market)
- Hong Mei Lu (Restaurant and Bar Street)
- Feng Ding Sauna.
- Golden 18 Sauna (even closed now, we all hope it will open again)
Hope it will be helpful for you guys. If you like Sauna places, we also add a new service on our side yesterday. We builted up a interactiv google map on the page, where you can find most important Sauna and Massages places in Shanghai, so you can easily find out which one is next to your place (if you know, where you are.)
[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/massage-sauna/?nid=691956[/url]
Thanks for all the informations here and enjoy Shanghai Nightlife.
Stopped in here recently. Nice. #18 was enthusiastic, girl-next-door looks. Sounds like from the reports, at this place YMMV.
Another nearby place, similar pricing, is on Yuyuan Road just west of Wanhangdu Road. Up a stairway. Somewhat nicer overall. Showers are smaller, water pressure less, but cleaner and nicer than the place on Wuning / Wanhangdu. I've had several massages here, and been very happy with the results.
To the question asked recently, why pay 400 for a naked HJ here, when you could get laid at a sauna for just a little more? Lots of reasons. They are both fun. I sometimes go to saunas, sometimes to MP. MP always is a lot quicker. HJ is safer sex. I can get two fixes of oxytocin and prolactin at a MP for the price of one at a sauna. Sauna is more memorable, and the girls are better looking. You can't beat a soapy massage at a sauna. At a sauna you have a choice of girls, and they tend to be younger. To each his own, or both.
[QUOTE=Halloerstmal; 1166097]Met a FL girl recently in a club in Xintiandi.
She said for 20. 000 RMB per month she would be available exclusively to me, anytime after office hours and on weekends.
Something Chinese would refer to as "er nai" I guess (second milk / second breast).
Interesting thought somehow. Anybody got experiecne with this kind of arrangement?
There was a discussion recently in this thread on this topic but I don't recall anybody actually went for it. [/QUOTE]20k rmb is way to much for the same pussy your going to fu*k. You'd better use that money to find more various pussies out there. And "er nai" refer to mistress mostly.
[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1166117]Hey Guys,
We found a lot of useful informations for our webpage.
[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com[/url]
Here[/QUOTE]No shit.
If the information we nicely put up here for free is going to be copy pasted on some site that charges 60 bucks a year for access, then at least Jackson could avoid letting them advertise here for free.
[QUOTE=Halloerstmal; 1166097]Interesting thought somehow. Anybody got experiecne with this kind of arrangement?
There was a discussion recently in this thread on this topic but I don't recall anybody actually went for it. [/QUOTE]20K is a lot of money. You could get 20 different girls with that. However if the girl is great and you are spending that amount every month anyway (I certainly don't) , it can be better to have one extraordinary girl rather than 20 "mamahuhu" by-the-clock experiences. It all depends on your budget and preferences.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1166414]No shit.
If the information we nicely put up here for free is going to be copy pasted on some site that charges 60 bucks a year for access, then at least Jackson could avoid letting them advertise here for free. [/QUOTE]I am sorry, if you think like that. We don`t charge anything for access. 95 percent off all informations on our webpage are for free, we only charge for the member area with some additional information. (like the sauna adress). Everything else is for free). And we invest a lot of effort, to make it easy to find the information you need now. For example the Sauna Google Map we did. You will not find it any where else in the web, I think. And it is for free. So most of the service is useful and free for everyone.
And the concept is same than in ISG, nearly everything is free, but if I want to see the pictures someone uploaded here, I also have to pay for the chance to see the pictures, so you upload a adress card of the sauna club here and the forum charge others to see it. I think we also add a lot of additional efforts and informations (like the location cards we did, check the locations, rate them and so on). I am sure you will not finde any "copy-pasted" things on our page. And I only put cards back here to thank, because I know how complicate it is to find locations, if you are a newbie. Sorry, if someone think, this is a bad behavior or useless "advertisement".
If some of you guys also like to visit Girls Bars in Shanghai, I put some additional location cards here.
HuaShanLu is near Hilton Hotel in Puxi, Heng Shan Lu is the little Street corner with some crazy illuminated Bars you see, if you drive by, Pudong Avenue is one of the Bar Locations in Pudong (also a nice Massage Center at this place) , Babyface is a nice club where you can find local girls, same than Paramount and Muse. Big Bamboo is a sportsbar, but around you also will find Manhattan, Excalibur Girls bar, and around the corner other Girls Bars (Gogo China, Woodstock, Lady Gaga bar, Flying Dragon Bar).
Long time I did not see any post about this topic here, so I think for new visitors, it could be helpful to get some background about that.
In China you find a lot of Bars with "drinking" Girls. In this Bars there will be (sometimes beautiful) Girls willing to drink with you. There will be two kind of girls:
- most are hired by the bar, they get a (low) fixed salary (around RMB 500 to RMB 1000) every month and additional commission for every drink they take. In Shanghai Girls Bars the price for a drink is 50 or 100 RMB each drink, the girl get around 30.
- some of the girls are "free", they can be there, also get commission, but they are Freelancer looking for customers there. But you will find less Freelencer in Girlsbars, because most bar owner don`t like them to take out the customer very fast, but who want`s to spend out a lot of money in a bar, if he allready cleared everything with the girl to go home together.
Now you have different types of Girls Bars.
- most of them only provide Girls drink with you, also make you a little bit hot (to drink more) , but nothing else will happend (exept some touch or kiss).
- some Bars also offer some "VIP Areas", where you can have a lot of fun (For Example BBBJ, FS with one or more girls same time) in the Bar directly. But you have to know, this private areas most time not really private, so other girls and sometimes even other customers will pass by.
But you have to know this is not a cheap entertainment. It is a little bit more exiting than a Sauna or Massage, because you have to attract the girls to do more with you, and could be you spend a lot and nothing happend, but could also be they like you and you have a great big party with some really hot girlfriend experience. In old Tong Ren Lu a friend of mine went upstairs with a girl, than later they went to a private room, than later her (real!) sister also join them, than another girl later and he had the first time GF Experience with 3 Girls same time. He spend 5000 this night, but stay in the Bar from 10:30 pm to 7:30 am. But I also know people spend 10k and more in a bar and nothing happend at the end.
Cheating Ways: If you are not so familiar with girls bars, you should take care about some points how they will cheat you.
1. Wrong Drinks: The girls earn money for drinking. You want to have fun, and as more the girls getting drunken, as more hot the party will be. So most girls try to order a cocktail called "sex on the beach". Normally charged with 100 RMB for a small glass, there is nearly no alcohol inside. So she can finish a rack with 10 Drinks in half an hour (RMB 1000!) without getting even a little bit drunken. Tip: better ask for double Tequila, same price, but the Girl will never drink so much so fast (and also sometimes check the tequile, could be tea with same color). Or you order Beer, there is not faked beer bottle in China. (you can tell them you only drink beer and you like them to drink together. Than the cost will rise up much slower). You also can order a bottle of Whiskey or Tequila. Girls don`t like, because commission is very low for that, but the price will be 600 to 800 in the Bar and if you and some girls drink together, you can have drunken girls easy and much cheaper. But if you want to have more than talking, you should also spend out some shots to comfort them. You will see, they will give some back (at least the "no cheating girls").
2. Faked Bills: Normaly in the bar there will be a cup on the table and every time the girls or you take a drink, a "bill" with the price and the girls name (for their commission) will be put inside. In a very reliable bar they will let you sign each paper, so you can be sure it`s right (but trust me guys, this are not the bars you get really hot fun). But if you get drunken, than the girls (or the boss) will put additonal bills inside, so could be you order Drinks for 1500 RMB and finally they ask you to pay 3 000 or 5 000 RMB. And if you avoid to pay, they will make big trouble. I suggest to ask for the police than, because if they did not let you sign every bill, the police normaly will be on your side (and the bar manager know this for sure).
3. More and more Girls: Most of us are happy, if they have one or two girls. But in the Girls Bars, they will try to push you to as many girls as possible. I saw a lot of western guys with 5 or 10 girls around. Than every round with double shots will be charged with 500 to 1000 RMB. This is really waste of money, because all this girls will leave without giving you anything back. So keep calm and send away every girl you don`t like. They will ask you for: "only one drink", and so on, but better save this budget for the girls will really give you something back.
4. Pretent to go home with you: Most Bar Girls will pretend to go home with you later, next day or whenever (normally they have working time till 3 am or even 5 to 6 am and can not go home with customer in working time, exept you spend 5 000 to 10 000 in the Bar at least). But they will make you horny and talk with you dirty, so you will think later, when the bar close, you will be able to take them home. They very often even promise like that. So you will stay long time, comfort her with a lot of drinks and you will get more and more horney. Than later they will have some excuse, why they can not (for example have to pick up someting home, have to go home with friends and so on). Sometimes even tell you, they will come to your place later, than switch of their phone or ignore you. The "real talents" will be able to give you the feeling, one day you will take her home, so you come back again and again.
Tip: you can have a lot of fun in the girls bars, also you can have great girl friend experience, but never go there to pick up a girl. This will never work! You better go to the same bar from time to time, get friends to some girls, than you rise up your chance to "seduce" one of them. But never loose the focus on your Budget. The highest bill I ever saw was a drunken guy in old Tong Ren Lu Bar, he should pay 95 000 RMB only for the drinks (as they found out, he is stupid and drunken enough, more than 30 Girls come to ask for drinks, take double rounds and so on.). And the crazy guy took his credit card and paid for it. What kind of entertainment we could have with such a budget. If you like to have fun in the Bar, you better check out, which one offer "full service". Problem is, they will never tell you about the service you will get, because officially the boss of the bar has no idea, what the girls do with the customers, when they leave to privat area. So the boss also can not force the girls to do any service if the girls don`t like. So in every Bar it is a lucky draw. You can have FS in a Bar with a girl, but next time the other girl in the same Bar will not even kiss you. But there are some Bars they will be specialized on "better" service, so there you can be 90% sure you get what you want, because here the boss will not keep girls they only pretend, but finally not do any special service. But your budget should be between 500 and 1500 for a evening an a Bar with some extra fun like BBBJ, HJ or FS.
So check it out. And don`t forget to leave a post here about your experience.
Recently found a strip of BBS just north on Pudong Nan Lu from the corner of Pudong Nan Lu and PuJian Lu, on a small street named NingYang Lu. There are four in a row. If you are staying at the Pudong Sheraton, it is a short walk. Did not sample the goods, as I was on a run and dripping with sweat. The talent looked to be in the 6-8 range. As I was chatting with a couple of the girls, they threw out 400, double what it should be for FS. Must be because I was dripping wet. Will go back soon and dip into the merchandise.
So what is the latest on red rope activities? Apparently the web site is now too smart for the likes of me, and I just can't figure out how to do a proper search. I went back a few pages and couldn't find the term, so I'll ask. What is the story with the Red Rope? Where can you get it, do you have to ask or is it standard, etc?
Last I understood it could be had at Hailang, still true? I have a buddy in town that wants to try it, as do I, check it off the list so to speak.
[QUOTE=Shmitty; 1166818]So what is the latest on red rope activities? Apparently the web site is now too smart for the likes of me, and I just can't figure out how to do a proper search. I went back a few pages and couldn't find the term, so I'll ask. What is the story with the Red Rope? Where can you get it, do you have to ask or is it standard, etc?
Last I understood it could be had at Hailang, still true? I have a buddy in town that wants to try it, as do I, check it off the list so to speak. [/QUOTE]Be sure you are signed in. Go to the Shanghai Thread. Up at the top right is a box listed "Search Thread". Click there and type Red Rope. You should see about 100 posts. Anyway, I recall a recent post saying it could still be had at Hailang, but you better ask when you arrive, to make sure you get someone who can do it.
I think it is new. There is a BBS at about 936 Changle Road, between Wulumuqi and Changshu Roads. Walked by a couple of times and the ladies were trying to wave me in. Really handy to the Hilton. Go south on Changshu to Changle, and turn right. Look for the green foot massage sign.
[QUOTE=Lost In Shanghai;1166831]Be sure you are signed in. Go to the Shanghai Thread. Up at the top right is a box listed "Search Thread". Click there and type Red Rope. You should see about 100 posts. Anyway, I recall a recent post saying it could still be had at Hailang, but you better ask when you arrive, to make sure you get someone who can do it.[/QUOTE]I'm not looking for anything at the minute, but I wanted to pipe in here. The search function on here sucks unless I'm using it wrong. The box at the top right corner says "advanced search", and entering "Red Rope" into this pulls up a list of THREADS, not posts, with the words Red and Rope highlighted in yellow. So all this accomplished is showing that there is the reference to "red rope" in the 1000s of pages of the Shanghai thread. I clicked on the Shanghai thread and it took me right here where I started. Is there another function for "search thread" that I'm missing? I don't see it.
SCRATCH THAT. I FOUND IT. It's not a box, it's a small drop menu in a white bar. That works much better.
Anyone know this hotel Kingtown Riverside Hotel Plaza Shanghai is GF-friendly?
Onyone know is it Kingtown Riverside Hotel Plaza Shanghai girl-friendly?
Thanks for the answers to my previous questions. Would have felt like an idiot bringing swimming trunks. Alas, I have another quick trivial question about saunas.
Do they take credit card?
[QUOTE=Dave_Far; 1167143]Thanks for the answers to my previous questions. Would have felt like an idiot bringing swimming trunks. Alas, I have another quick trivial question about saunas.
Do they take credit card? [/QUOTE]Yes, they do take credit cards.
Sometime in Asia (not so sure abou tPRC venues) there might (repeat might) be an overcharge for hte use of CC.
Anyhow, back on the swimming trunk subject, something is for sure: do not be shy and do not be homofobic.
Common shower will see naked men around, in the pool and so on.
In Macau when you take the japanese shower, despite the cubicle the attention fo the gilrs on your nuts and little head is quite obvious, same as when they stroke it a bit. And when in some sauna in macau they perform the famous deep vein massage or thigh massage in the main and common lounge, it is quite obvious what the girl is doing under the towel.
China sauna are more discrete in this, I have never seen large relax lounges, but small rooms
[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide;1166473]I. Big Bamboo is a sportsbar, but around you also will find Manhattan, Excalibur Girls bar, and around the corner other Girls Bars (Gogo China, Woodstock, Lady Gaga bar, Flying Dragon Bar).[/QUOTE]And in them you will find older, worn looking, out-of-shape philippinas.
[QUOTE=Stegram; 1166853]I'm not looking for anything at the minute, but I wanted to pipe in here. The search function on here sucks unless I'm using it wrong. The box at the top right corner says "advanced search", and entering "Red Rope" into this pulls up a list of THREADS, not posts, with the words Red and Rope highlighted in yellow. So all this accomplished is showing that there is the reference to "red rope" in the 1000s of pages of the Shanghai thread. I clicked on the Shanghai thread and it took me right here where I started. Is there another function for "search thread" that I'm missing? I don't see it.
SCRATCH THAT. I FOUND IT. It's not a box, it's a small drop menu in a white bar. That works much better.[/QUOTE]I'm not finding it, but the only place in town since G18 closed has been Hailang.
I tihnk we'll check the Bodi off the list, and then maybe come back for the red rope later.
The legendary Shanghai Hotel in Puxi always offered Red Rope. You had to tell the girl not to it and wave her off, or it was part of the script.
Located on 505 Wulumuqi Lu North, the Shanghai Hotel had / has both normal rooms upstairs and a wet lands downstairs. You get the wet lands with Red Rope if you request (ed) VIP when you walk in the door of the sauna. Price was 800 rmb for VIP.
Uncertain if it is now open, but given it's legendary history, it's an even money bet that it is.
Here is a link to a taxi card for all those who want to take a shot a old school institution known for it's Red Rope offering.
[url]http://www.smartshanghai.com/venue/2873/Shanghai-Hotel_shanghai[/url]
Here is a link to a photo from post #2135 under China / Photo Galery.
[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=135509&d=1276846706[/url]
This is standard equipment using the hand grip bars in the ceiling. This is what the Shanghai Hotel always offered.
Here is a link to photos Post #1101 that shows a more advanced piece of gear. Not sure where this could have been.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2690-2006-Photo-Gallery&p=517201#post517201[/url]
Hi Shanghai Guide,
Is Merrylin back to operation? Would like to know as I was a regular there before.
Also, according to your site Shanghai hotel's operation is far smaller than before.
Thanks.
Stephen
[QUOTE=Shanghai Guide; 1166117]Hey Guys,
We found a lot of useful informations for our webpage.
[url]www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com[/url]
Here, so I also want to give something back. A lot of people here ask how to find the place. In the attachment you find location cards of some important places you should know. If you load the pictures on your mobile phone, you can show it to the taxi driver and he will bring you there, even you can not speak any Chinese (and you don`t have to ask anyone for help)
Attached location cards:
- 999 Jiu Yian Sauna.
- Sacrosa Sauna.
- Manhattan Club (Pickup Place)
- Zabatas (Pickup Places)
- Bar Rouge (Pickup Place)
- Hai Lang (Sauna)
- Nanjing Market (fake Market)
- Hong Mei Lu (Restaurant and Bar Street)
- Feng Ding Sauna.
- Golden 18 Sauna (even closed now, we all hope it will open again)
Hope it will be helpful for you guys. If you like Sauna places, we also add a new service on our side yesterday. We builted up a interactiv google map on the page, where you can find most important Sauna and Massages places in Shanghai, so you can easily find out which one is next to your place (if you know, where you are.)
[url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/massage-sauna/?nid=691956[/url]
Thanks for all the informations here and enjoy Shanghai Nightlife. [/QUOTE]
Went to Malone's for dinner on Saturday, then had a drink at Big Bamboo and later Manhattan.
The girls at Malone's were trollish, BBB looked pretty good, although there were not very many.
Manhattan was ridiculous, more girls than I have ever seen before, and at least one for every guy. Range from haggard to stunning, tall to tiny, big tits to nothing. Lots of Thai and philipinas, no Chinese that I noticed. I was with colleagues so no buying, just looking. There were some young Brits in there douching the place up, completely overserved and out of control.
We left at midnight and it was packed with a steady stream still arriving. My one colleague will most certainly be going back unsupervised.
This is my first report so be gentle. I made a few mistakes tonight to learn from.
After a tough week, tonight seemed like the right time for a massage and, maybe, something more. I called someone advertising just as "Full Body Massage" in the Shanghai Daily (18 June) and organised a girl to visit my hotel, after being quoted 280RMB for the massage. My plan is to see how the massage goes before talking about any extras. As this is my first time in Shanghai, having a girl come to the hotel seemed the safest option.
The girl arrived fairly quickly. Was probably about 25 or a little more and 7/10 for looks.
After she sat down launched straight into trying to sell FS for 2000 RBM and didn't like the idea that I wanted to just start with a massage. There were other options suggested but she kept coming back to FS when I considered them. She demanded the money up front which had now climbed to 400 RBM for basic massage, with taxi fare included. Not a good sign but I paid up. If her attitude was more friendly I would have taken another option.
It was about the worst massage I'd had. No skills at all and constantly trying to sell FS which I gradually got down to 1400 RMB. She wanted the money up front again. Her attitude was really getting on my nerves at this point so I sent her home instead. She was not happy at all. Better to cut my losses than live to regret handing over more money for bad service.
Mistakes. Next time I call a few places and find out their rates for the all services first.
I've been to a couple of KTV bars and had a good time, with Chinese speaking associates, but don't have their details so cannot start out my first report with a positive experience. I'll be in Shanghai for a few more weeks and hope to have much better to report.
Anyone know or have experienced Massage at Radisson Hotel at Nanjing Road.
Do they provide FS or any other service?
Will be visiting Shanghai soon and have booked this hotel.
[QUOTE=Target123;1167928]Mistakes. Next time I call a few places and find out their rates for the all services first.[/QUOTE]No, no, no. Next time, don't call anyone from a magazine or newspaper. You'll get the same bad experience every single time. Go back to page 50 of this thread and spend a few hours reading. You'll get most of what you need to know.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1168265]No, no, no. Next time, don't call anyone from a magazine or newspaper. You'll get the same bad experience every single time. Go back to page 50 of this thread and spend a few hours reading. You'll get most of what you need to know.[/QUOTE]And try saunas. .
Is Merrylin back to operation? Would like to know as I was a regular.
No. Heavy reconstruction work is ongoing. Thr entire third floor looks like a war zone. It remains uncertain when the construction will be complete. Rumors. And I stress rumors from management and some of the girls who worked there say July 1. I'll believe it when I see it, given what I saw on my little walk through the other day. Given the scope and scale of the renovation, it will not bear any resemblace to what it looked like. Totally new and improved. Only time will tell.
Stay tuned.
You are much better off reading through the forum to find a MP. Or if you want to explore, look for MPs that have girls in short uniforms and high heels standing around the entry. Most will give a good oil massage for 2 hours with a HJ or some cases BJ (I have had BBBJ with CIM). Cost : rmb400 to the house and a tip. If you go back a second time, you can do take away where FS is possible (or probable). Just talk to the massage girl your first time in and find out what she is open to.
[QUOTE=Target123; 1167928]This is my first report so be gentle. I made a few mistakes tonight to learn from.
After a tough week, tonight seemed like the right time for a massage and, maybe, something more. I called someone advertising just as "Full Body Massage" in the Shanghai Daily (18 June) and organised a girl to visit my hotel, after being quoted 280RMB for the massage. My plan is to see how the massage goes before talking about any extras. As this is my first time in Shanghai, having a girl come to the hotel seemed the safest option.
The girl arrived fairly quickly. Was probably about 25 or a little more and 7/10 for looks.
After she sat down launched straight into trying to sell FS for 2000 RBM and didn't like the idea that I wanted to just start with a massage. There were other options suggested but she kept coming back to FS when I considered them. She demanded the money up front which had now climbed to 400 RBM for basic massage, with taxi fare included. Not a good sign but I paid up. If her attitude was more friendly I would have taken another option.
It was about the worst massage I'd had. No skills at all and constantly trying to sell FS which I gradually got down to 1400 RMB. She wanted the money up front again. Her attitude was really getting on my nerves at this point so I sent her home instead. She was not happy at all. Better to cut my losses than live to regret handing over more money for bad service.
Mistakes. Next time I call a few places and find out their rates for the all services first.
I've been to a couple of KTV bars and had a good time, with Chinese speaking associates, but don't have their details so cannot start out my first report with a positive experience. I'll be in Shanghai for a few more weeks and hope to have much better to report. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shmitty; 1167898]Went to Malone's for dinner on Saturday, then had a drink at Big Bamboo and later Manhattan.
The girls at Malone's were trollish, BBB looked pretty good, although there were not very many.
Manhattan was ridiculous, more girls than I have ever seen before, and at least one for every guy. Range from haggard to stunning, tall to tiny, big tits to nothing. Lots of Thai and philipinas, no Chinese that I noticed. I was with colleagues so no buying, just looking. There were some young Brits in there douching the place up, completely overserved and out of control.
We left at midnight and it was packed with a steady stream still arriving. My one colleague will most certainly be going back unsupervised.[/QUOTE]Was there Friday with local mates and some visitors. Packed with good Viet talent, but pricing was high. One of my visitors arranged a 1:00AM hook-up a his hotel. He reported he was well served. Another local had take-away. Again good report on service. But both paid 2K for LT. I jump an incoming cab on Tongren Lu with a Viet gal where we quickly settled on a lower price for LT, but as we started on the road, she wanted to renegotiate. I turn the taxi around to jump back out at Manhattan. Stuck her with the 100rmb taxi bill she had rung up. She expected me to pay. NOT. Instead, at 1:30AM grabbed a waimai (takeout) from my local MP that included FS. Finished at 5AM. A much better bargain with more enthusiasm.
Hey guys,
I recently started looking into the Chinese websites (I. E. Aish001) that were mentioned on this board a while ago. Seems like quite a bit of potential goodies on those sites.
Only thing is that all the info are in Chinese and I can't read Chinese. I used google translate and am able to get the general meanings.
However, there are a lot of abbreviations (which I assume are derived from Chinese) and I'm not able to find online what they mean.
"Some" of the abbreviations are:
ZY.
LY.
XC.
YY.
MY.
XT.
FL.
Can anyone here help? Much appreciated!
BJ
[QUOTE=Black Jack; 1168848]Hey guys,
I recently started looking into the Chinese websites (I. E. Aish001) that were mentioned on this board a while ago. Seems like quite a bit of potential goodies on those sites.
Only thing is that all the info are in Chinese and I can't read Chinese. I used google translate and am able to get the general meanings.
However, there are a lot of abbreviations (which I assume are derived from Chinese) and I'm not able to find online what they mean.
"Some" of the abbreviations are:
ZY.
LY.
XC.
YY.
MY.
XT.
FL.
Can anyone here help? Much appreciated!
BJ[/QUOTE]Can you copy more information, please.
Perhaps a sentence or a phrase in the original language / terminology containing the abbreviation would also help.
P13
[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1168876]Can you copy more information, please.
Perhaps a sentence or a phrase in the original language / terminology containing the abbreviation would also help.
P13[/QUOTE]Hi Pushkin. I'll have to look back to the pages to get original language. But from the context that I remember, most (if not all) of the abbreviations refer to services offered. A few may refer to the "type" of establishment.
For example, the abbreviation FJ. I concluded refers to HJ (fei-ji).
[quote=laowei137;1165197]after entering the dressing room i was getting a bad feeling about sacrosa. the floor of the clothing room looked like an ashtray with many holes in it from burned sigarettes. entering into the wet area the bad feeling stayed: a smell of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] and an overall look of dirtyness.[/quote]sorry my bad. i usually like to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] after doing the deed and the urge sometime doesn't come until after i get in the shower. don't want to step out just to go. anyways i figured drains leads to pipes and pipes all go to the same place so why not just take care of business while i'm cleaning up. guess sac's drainage system is not well designed. just call me george costanza, the urinator.
This is an interesting list that I ran across recenly posted in another area.
LY. Lang You. Equivalent of "Cheongsters" (Mongers)
JS. Ji Shi. Massage Girl.
FL. Fa Lang. BarberShop aka BBS.
FJ. Fei Ji. Hand-Job.
TY. Tui You. Oil Massage
MY. Man You. Cathbath.
DL. Du Long. Ass Rim.
ZJ. Zhu Jiao. Foot Job.
XT. Xiong Tui. Breast Massage.
ML. Make Love.
KB. Kou Bao. Cum in Mouth.
ISO. So-called SOP.
HJ Hand Job. DaFeiji
[QUOTE=ShangHangin;1168605]Was there Friday with local mates and some visitors. Packed with good Viet talent, but pricing was high. One of my visitors arranged a 1:00AM hook-up a his hotel. He reported he was well served. Another local had take-away. Again good report on service. But both paid 2K for LT. I jump an incoming cab on Tongren Lu with a Viet gal where we quickly settled on a lower price for LT, but as we started on the road, she wanted to renegotiate. I turn the taxi around to jump back out at Manhattan. Stuck her with the 100rmb taxi bill she had rung up. She expected me to pay. NOT. Instead, at 1:30AM grabbed a waimai (takeout) from my local MP that included FS. Finished at 5AM. A much better bargain with more enthusiasm.[/QUOTE]How do you know when takeout is available from a MP?
[QUOTE=Troc;1168899]. . . . Anyways I figured drains leads to pipes and pipes all go to the same place . . . . Just call me George Costanza, the Urinator.[/QUOTE]Does it mean the pipings go in the pool? LOL
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1168937]How do you know when takeout is available from a MP?[/QUOTE]You ask the papasan. Or the girl.
[QUOTE=Shaun Palmer;1168937]How do you know when takeout is available from a MP?[/QUOTE]As Chill Out says,"ask" and the girl is the best one to ask. But it helps if it is not you first time to the MP. Like all things in China, relationship is key. In my case, I am a long time client, have introduced my mates.
[QUOTE=Applecrate; 1168907]This is an interesting list that I ran across recenly posted in another area.
LY. Lang You. Equivalent of "Cheongsters" (Mongers)
HJ Hand Job. DaFeiji[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. LOL, some of my guesses were way off!
Guys, avoid the Lady Gaga Bar!
I was in the Lady Gaga Bar with one girl and the barkeeperin put knockout drops in my beer. The beer tasted somehow different than usual, more bitter. After the first two sips I felt something going wrong with me. Immediately I asked a American for help, he recognized the situation an we ran outside to the street, where I collapsed. Actually he collapsed some minutes later, cause he was full of food. Itwas a really hard night! But we had luck that I recognized so early the knockout drops and that the American collapsed later than me.
[QUOTE=ChrisToffel;1169204]the barkeeperin put knockout drops in my beer.[/QUOTE]WTF? Knockout drops?
[QUOTE=ChrisToffel;1169204]Actually he collapsed some minutes later, cause he was full of food.[/QUOTE]What are you smoking?
[QUOTE=ChrisToffel; 1169204]Guys, avoid the Lady Gaga Bar!
I was in the Lady Gaga Bar with one girl and the barkeeperin put knockout drops in my beer. The beer tasted somehow different than usual, more bitter. After the first two sips I felt something going wrong with me. Immediately I asked a American for help, he recognized the situation an we ran outside to the street, where I collapsed. Actually he collapsed some minutes later, cause he was full of food. Itwas a really hard night! But we had luck that I recognized so early the knockout drops and that the American collapsed later than me. [/QUOTE]This same story with the same details was posted back on the 11th, on that site that was advertising here. I have to post the link unfortunately so you can read it (it's made as a comment on that site) : [url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/girls-bars/lady-gaga-bar/[/url]
It's suspicious to me because it seems unreasonable that a well known bar could do this more than once and not get into ridiculous amounts of trouble. Its suspicious that it's being posted here today. It's suspicious that two sips were enough to render you barely able to escape. It's also suspicious that the entire internet doesn't contain any complaints about this bar doing this other than this one story. Google "knockout drops" +"lady gaga bar" to see for yourself.
I call BS.
Was out wandering and ran across three promising MPs. They are in Pudong on LaoShan Lu and WieFang Lu. As you walk from Weifang down LaoShan, they are on the right side of the street. I stopped in and chatted with each but had no time to sample. Here is my take:
First from the corner is Classic Age: I am not sure if the name refers to the decor or the girls. The decor is white marble, massage rooms are huge with a proper massage table, shower and tub. I have had smaller hotel rooms. The girls in waiting look like they had some road miles on them. 200rmb / hour oil massage.
Second from the corner is LeiLei Foot Leisure Hall. Don't let the name fool you. Place is clean, smaller rooms, shower in each. 200rmb / hour oil massage. When I asked the girl who showed me the room if take-away was available, she quickly smiled and give me her phone number. Will give it a go later and let you know.
Third one is Rong "something". Had a stable of very cute girls. Did not get to see a room. Again. 200rmb / hour oil massage.
With the Merrylin Hotel sauna closed for construction (and I doubt the July 1 re-open date) , these places are a long block from the InterCon and Purple Mountain.
thanks to laowei137 for the tip. unfortunately the girl i choose ended up giving sub-par service (could be that i just made a bad choice / bad chemistry).
the enterance to dream spa is on the right side, if you are facing the main enterance of the jingjiang hotel. i learnt this the hardway because i guessed left side, and had to walk all the way back. you have to walk arround the hotel, to the right side, where the suana enterance is (big glass doors). otherwise previous discription is spot on. light lobby, clean and modern shower / changing facilities. lock-up your stuff, shower, dry up. then i walked up the stairs to second floor. they sat me down in sofa, and after a few seconds i heard the sound of a high-heel stampede. mamasan brought in a line-up of about 15-17 girls. i had previously not been asked about different menu options, and dit not ask now, figured i would notice if the rooms had the extras, then i would ask for the regular. anyhow girls were bodywise all pretty hot, but none really standing out face-wise. 3-4 really smiling at me, but hard none that i really digged. finally took one, who for some reason was not wearing a. tag (she said she had forgot it). from what i could figure, her number was 873.
it was awkward from the go, as she naturally did not speek english, but i have managed well with my limited mandarin at with girls from bodi or sarcosa. but with her it felt like she didn't want to understand anything. anyhow not not sure what is standard at dream spa, but there was no catbath, ice / fire bj etc. i had to tell her initiate action, so started with bbj, which actually was performed well, after some initial hesitation. then various positions, and completion after about 15-20 mins. now, since i read that there were multiple shots, and i am used to this from sarcosa (2-3 usually) and bodi (2 usually) , i was hoping for the same.
but no, she was acting as it was done now, and started filling out some receipt with a pen, when there clearly was more time left, and oddly did not understand at all that i wanted one more shot. i naturally insisted, and managed to get her to peform once more for a second shot, much to her disappointment.
call to the desk / mamasan, and unlike other places i was not allowed to report on the experience. i think i heard her saying something about me now speeking chinese, but this has never stopped management from asking in other places.
so not sure what to make of the place. could be just one bad apple in #873, so stay away from her (could be that she does not like foreigners). i personally might give it one more try, even if it the place is a little off for me.
at 750 rmb bodi is prolly a better choice for quality of girls, but selection was better than sarcosa (even if the girls attitude is good there, at least my experience).
22 years old, normal height for chinese.
face: 6-7.
body: 8.
boobs: 9 (nearly perfect, the best part of the deal, and real)
attitude: 4.
sex: 6 (good bbj, tight body, even if i was doing most of the work)
p. s. there is a street right oposite to hotel, with bbs / massage places, could be worth checking. i had a normal massage in one of them, and noticed they had a "pink-light" room with girls sitting in skimpy dresses.
[quote=laowei137; 1165504]after having left sacrosa i had the intention to return to bodi. the taxi driver was chatty and he told me that some of his previous customers went to a different high end spa. it was on the way to bodi, so no detour, and i could have a look if i wanted, he would wait outside. usually i do not endulge on these kind of proposals, but this time the driver seemed realy a honnest person.
this was probably the first time in china i was not "taken" by a cabby.
the taxi drove up to the jingjiang orient hotel (previously the pudong sofitel) , past the side of the hotel and to the back. it's the same building as the hotel, it just has a different entrance at the back.
upon entering: clean, well lit, hotel lobby look. i was asked which menu i preferred: the 750 rmb one or the 1200 rmb one. here's where being the foreigner comes in handy: i asked if i could be shown the difference. turns out the difference was just the type of rooms you are given. the 750 rmb menu is just a regular room (with porn on the tv) and the 1200 rmb version is a big room with your own jacuzzi, shower area and."a gynological chair". the line-up of girls in both sections are the same. this is china: you pay different for the same service, the difference is the entourage you get the service in.
i choose the 750 rmb version. the wet area is probably the best i've ever seen in shanghai (only topped by a realy top-of-the-line spa in beijing) clean, fresh, big pool with jet-streams. clean, fresh smelling showers with jets. a bubble bath that didn't look like someone had masturbated in it. upto then a big +++
i was directed up the stairs and into a clean waiting area and offered a drink. a mommy turned up with 30 little lasses in tow. each dressed differently: some in uniforms, some in beach-style pants and tops. the girls introduced themselves one by one and (with mommy's entheusiasm helping here) i had a chitchat with each of the girls. tough choise (for the first time!) about 5 girls stood out to my liking. ofcourse mommy proposed me to take 2 (no thanks). after a bit i made my choise and off we went into a clean (a bit small) hotel-room-like room. 90 minutes and 5 pops later the telephone rang and it was time to leave. exchanged telephone numbers with my lady and we walked hand-in-hand back to the stairs down.
the best sauna in shanghai upto now (albe-it i think g-18 was also a great one)
below the business card of dream spa and pictures of the 1200 rmb room. [/quote]
After my last let down, I needed somewhere reliable and Bodi seems to be a favourite on this forum. Tonight I grabbed a taxi and tried Bodi for the first time. I was not disappointed but it is an odd experience to strip off and walk around a lot fully clothed men and a bit strange to have one of them dry my back. Next time I don't expect it to put me off by it.
I wasn't in the waiting room for long before going to see a lineup of 20 girls. I was taken through with a group of other western guys. Most of the girls made eye contact and some waved. All were reasonably attractive, maybe 5-8.
I chose #557 because she seemed keen. I'd give here 7/10 for looks and 8/10 attitude. Not a perfectly firm body but there isn't much at all that she could lose. Services include a nice BBBJ, DATY and multiple positions for the main event. No complaints about my wondering hands at any time. The soapy massage unbelievable relaxing (she put a lot of effort into it) and better than I expected. Reasonable English skills. Tight fit. Friendly kisses, good service but not as much of a connection for a real GFE but that is probably more my fault. I'm in my mid thirties and fairly over weight so think she did well to convince me that she wasn't put off and seemed to get into it.
Next time I'll probably take a different girl for comparison but would still recommend #557. Definitely going back again at some point. Normally I prefer to have girls in my hotel room but I'm reconsidering that position now.
Thanks to all those providing helpful advice and great reports. My trip to Shanghai would never have been as much fun without this forum.
[QUOTE=EsotericHuangpu;1169256]Google "knockout drops" +"lady gaga bar" to see for yourself. I call BS.[/QUOTE]I also call BS. I've been to Lady Gaga multiple times and have never had a problem, and have found the girls there to be nothing but friendly. Better yet, they do not push the drinks so hard like other places. I recommend it.
[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1169526]Was out wandering and ran across three promising MPs. They are in Pudong on LaoShan Lu and WieFang Lu. As you walk from Weifang down LaoShan, they are on the right side of the street. I stopped in and chatted with each but had no time to sample. Here is my take:
First from the corner is Classic Age: I am not sure if the name refers to the decor or the girls. The decor is white marble, massage rooms are huge with a proper massage table, shower and tub. I have had smaller hotel rooms. The girls in waiting look like they had some road miles on them. 200rmb / hour oil massage.
Second from the corner is LeiLei Foot Leisure Hall. Don't let the name fool you. Place is clean, smaller rooms, shower in each. 200rmb / hour oil massage. When I asked the girl who showed me the room if take-away was available, she quickly smiled and give me her phone number. Will give it a go later and let you know.
Third one is Rong "something". Had a stable of very cute girls. Did not get to see a room. Again. 200rmb / hour oil massage.
With the Merrylin Hotel sauna closed for construction (and I doubt the July 1 re-open date) , these places are a long block from the InterCon and Purple Mountain.[/QUOTE]I had fairly good service at the one across from those three, called "Let's Together Massage." Really cute little spinners in there. 300RMB / 2 hours, plus 200 to the girl for extras. Good extras.
Dear Fellow Mongers,
First of all, apologies for barely ever posting any reports online for about 2-3 years. Previously, I had a registration and an account and posted a few, but, then lost track of it totally.
However, never lost track of reading ISG forums since I travel around the world very frequently and I must admit this forum has saved a lot of time for me since I always new the probably places.
Anyway, promising to post regularly from now on;
I will be traveling to Bangkok, Beijing, Shanghai and XiaMen in about a week's time. I will be in Beijing for 4 nights consecutive and looking for a wingman there as well.
Will be in Shanghai also for 3 nights and looking for a wingman. I am a die-hard fan of Eastern European chics but this would be the first time I will be traveling to Shanghai and know nothing about it. This time around, am thinking of mixing the nights with non-Eastern European chics as well but majority of the focus remains EEs as usual. If anyone is interested, my PM should be activated in a day or two and we should tie up. I am specially looking for someone who has an equal inclination towards EE girls.
Any help on this would be appreciated as well and I have posted this on the Beijing forum as well. Specifically, any info on the Eastern European girls and where can they be found in Shanghai would be immensely appreciated.
Cheers
Used to see a few of them regularly at the old Manhattan. But haven't seen any non-asian at the new Manhattan or quite awhile. I.
Think I remember someone mentioning some russians being at Bar Rouge awhile back.
I am not so much into EE's but I am here in Shanghai for the next week if you or anyone else wants to meet up. I wouldn't mind checking out Bar Rouge with you. I had scored a freebie from there last year and might try my luck again. I might check out Manhattan tonight if I survive the knockout drops from Lady Gaga beforehand. .
[QUOTE=AKRogger; 1169744]Dear Fellow Mongers,
First of all, apologies for barely ever posting any reports online for about 2-3 years. Previously, I had a registration and an account and posted a few, but, then lost track of it totally.
However, never lost track of reading ISG forums since I travel around the world very frequently and I must admit this forum has saved a lot of time for me since I always new the probably places.
Anyway, promising to post regularly from now on;
I will be traveling to Bangkok, Beijing, Shanghai and XiaMen in about a week's time. I will be in Beijing for 4 nights consecutive and looking for a wingman there as well.
Will be in Shanghai also for 3 nights and looking for a wingman. I am a die-hard fan of Eastern European chics but this would be the first time I will be traveling to Shanghai and know nothing about it. This time around, am thinking of mixing the nights with non-Eastern European chics as well but majority of the focus remains EEs as usual. If anyone is interested, my PM should be activated in a day or two and we should tie up. I am specially looking for someone who has an equal inclination towards EE girls.
Any help on this would be appreciated as well and I have posted this on the Beijing forum as well. Specifically, any info on the Eastern European girls and where can they be found in Shanghai would be immensely appreciated.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
So I took some recent advice form fellow posters and decided to check out Dream Spa behind the Sofitel in Pudong today. Short summary for me was, dud. I did not agree that the facilities are all that nice (not better thanm Heting, not as nice as Bodi or Riverview) , did not get any kind of offer for high level or low level (just asked "Massagee?") and the lineup was only 8 girls at 1:30 PM on Saturday.
I picked number 915, a very skinny thing who was the best looking in the face and has a hard body, although very skinny. Service was sub-par, with no BBBJ, and she even double covered me for FS, which I found odd. She also pulled out some kind of vibrator thing and made an attempt at sticking it fully in my ass. Never had that happen before.
After one pop, she dicked around with a bunch of stuff, and then jsut as I was getting ready to go again, she says time is up (after only one hour). The phone call was non-existent, they did not inquire as to how good it was. Then out we went (I was there with a buddy) and he was pushed out after 45 minutes (he was a non-speaking Chinese from abroad).
I thought the room was only mediocre, the wet area not awesome, and in my case the service was not good. My buddy's girl was much better and he was pretty happy, but they oversharged for the skinning-guy (was told 100, they charged 158).
Not impressed, and I don't recommend a repeat visit. My favorite is still Bodi.
[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1169526]Was out wandering and ran across three promising MPs. They are in Pudong on LaoShan Lu and WieFang Lu. As you walk from Weifang down LaoShan, they are on the right side of the street. I stopped in and chatted with each but had no time to sample. Here is my take:
Second from the corner is LeiLei Foot Leisure Hall. Don't let the name fool you. Place is clean, smaller rooms, shower in each. 200rmb / hour oil massage. When I asked the girl who showed me the room if take-away was available, she quickly smiled and give me her phone number. Will give it a go later and let you know.[/QUOTE]As promised, as report on my earlier find. In a word disappointing. I gave #1 call after picking up her number the other day. She was nice enough, a 22 year old Sichuanese with a hot bod, nice face, overall 8/10, but her skills were lacking. The oil massage was sub-par and quick, had to negotiate like mad on the HE price and to get top off (bottoms were out of the question. A women's day thing). I told her the place was too expensive, and she said all three on this side of the street were similar. Damage 230 for a one hour "massage".300 for extras. Won't be back.
[QUOTE=Shmitty;1169630]I had fairly good service at the one across from those three, called "Let's Together Massage." Really cute little spinners in there. 300RMB / 2 hours, plus 200 to the girl for extras. Good extras.[/QUOTE]Hi Shmitty, I also noticed this place (due to the name I guess.) , could you please elaborate on the "good extras", are you talking about HJ only or also FS? Thanks for your report.
Changlelu
Hi guys,
Heading to Shanghai tomorrow for a couple of days and staying at the JW Marriott. Was hoping to get some in room service. Found a site called expatch. Com with some rather ncie looking girls on it. Has anyone tried this service? Is it legit?
Would like to hear if there are any reputable sites one could order some in room service from.
TIA
Greeting fellow Mongers,
Got sent to Shanghai to ***** slap the GM of our local office here for fucking up badly. Company booked me in Huana hotel, been here since Friday night. Done the RTFF and found some good info about BODI, probably head out there later on but it seems quite far from where I am staying, anything closer for a good release on a Sunday afternoon.
Cheers,
Chuck
[QUOTE=Chuckster007; 1170061]Greeting fellow Mongers,
Got sent to Shanghai to * slap the GM of our local office here for fucking up badly. Company booked me in Huana hotel, been here since Friday night. Done the RTFF and found some good info about BODI, probably head out there later on but it seems quite far from where I am staying, anything closer for a good release on a Sunday afternoon.
Cheers,
Chuck[/QUOTE]I assume you're near the HongQiao airport. There are a couple places over there. One sauna over there is called Xin Yuping Hot Spring Clubhouse and it's at Lianhua Road and Yishan Road. The address is 1733 Lianhua Road. The price there is 880 RMB. That's where I'd go during the day or afternoon if I were staying where you are.
Late at night and up to 3 or 4am I'd visit the ChengJiaQiao BBS area (if you're into BBS) which is at ChengJiaQiao Road and Jinhui Road. Price there is negotiable, but is generally 200 a girl.
[QUOTE=Shmitty;1169821]So I took some recent advice form fellow posters and decided to check out Dream Spa behind the Sofitel in Pudong today. Short summary for me was, dud. I did not agree that the facilities are all that nice (not better thanm Heting, not as nice as Bodi or Riverview) , did not get any kind of offer for high level or low level (just asked "Massagee?") and the lineup was only 8 girls at 1:30 PM on Saturday.[/QUOTE]Shmitty: Your experience matches mine almost exactly. The main wet area is pretty nice. I like the pool they have, which some people were actually using. However, the room was small and dingy. Only three girls were in the line-up, and none that attractive or inviting. The girl worked on upselling to a "much better" service including anal (at 1, 300 RMB!). Don't remember the number, since it wasn't worth remembering as she was not really into it. All together just average to below-average service, and I've had much better in Shanghai.
[QUOTE=Shmitty;1169821]Not impressed, and I don't recommend a repeat visit. My favorite is still Bodi.[/QUOTE]Agreed!
Headed out to ChengJiaQiao and JinHui to warm up with some BBS girls. Nothing out of the ordinary, but satisfied because I found what I was looking for. Then on the way home I decided I wanted something again, but less rushed. So I had the taxi drop me at the Manhattan where I picked up some viet take-out. Her name was "ha" (no idea how to spell it, but sounded like ha). Big fake tits. Skinny girl otherwise with a little extra tummy fat, but still pretty good looking overall. Sex was typical, but I was surprised that she wanted me to cim. I figured that would be challenging because her BBBJ skills didn't jive with me too much, but made a note of her interest in cim should I ever need it.
BBS girl was 200.
Viet take-out was 800
Went to a massage parlor today about 500m away from Jing An Temple (Line 2). To get there, take exit 1 and cross the street, walking down huashanlu (?) until it becomes wanhangdu lu, and keep going until it intersects with wuning lu. On the left side, there's an alleyway with a large '24 hour massage' sign hanging over it.
Went in, asked for the Thai oil massage (208 yuan / 80 minutes) and a girl from Jiangsu in her early 30s walked in (face 6-7, body 7). Did not appear to have a choice, so it's a bit luck of the draw.
Started off with a decent massage, after about 15-20 minutes she went to the soft touch and started playing with my ass and balls. Asked me to flip to HJ. After about another 15-20 minutes, she got a bit impatient and told me to hurry up (bit of a turn off but whatever) , finished, massaged my thighs and legs for another 5 mins or so and then left me to shower. Was allowed to roam around her thighs and ass, but pussy was a no-no and breasts were an extra 100, which I declined. Shower was pretty clean, but since the directions were in Japanese I couldn't tell which was soap / shampoo / conditioner, LOL.
60 minutes later I walked out with a smile and paid the 208. There were about 20 different massage options on the menu – not sure which ones included the HE, since it wasn't any extra. I doubt the 68 yuan backrub would have included a HE without an additional cost.
Worthwhile experience, will be there again.
[QUOTE=Shmitty;1169630]I had fairly good service at the one across from those three, called "xxxxxx." Really cute little spinners in there. 300RMB / 2 hours, plus 200 to the girl for extras. Good extras.[/QUOTE]Hi Shmitty,
I'm also interested to know what "good extras" are.
I normally stick to the other side of the road, the place you mentioned seems susceptible to raids, it was closed down for a month recently when an 18 year old offered a HJ to a plain clothes LE. Directly across the street, as a regular, I normally take a two hour Taiwan massage. 70 per hour, (but 50 with my VIP card) , tips 200. Extras are also good, but limited to an exquisite, slow HE!
Now under renovation.
The Laoshan Lu area is booming, most MP are recently renovated or undergoing renovation. I understand the old Wenfeng hairdressers will soon reopen as a super MP.
At my last count there were 12 MPs in the section between Weifang Lu and Pudian Lu!
Fz
[QUOTE=Changlelu; 1169925]Hi Shmitty, I also noticed this place (due to the name I guess.) , could you please elaborate on the "good extras", are you talking about HJ only or also FS? Thanks for your report.
Changlelu[/QUOTE]Like most of these places, you're not going to get the brass ring on the first visit, plus I am language deficient, but the HJ was the best I can remember, really good technique and attention. No negotiation, just gave her 200 at the end and no issues.
Just got my subscription and PM should be activated soon. Anyone wanys to tie up, PM me.
What a disappointment if Shanghai is short on EE's. Can anyone else confirm bar rouge? Was reading somewhere that Judy's may have some too. Any info on this?
Oakley, I will PM you in a bit for tieing up a schedule.
Rogger.
[QUOTE=Oakley08; 1169811]Used to see a few of them regularly at the old Manhattan. But haven't seen any non-asian at the new Manhattan or quite awhile. I.
Think I remember someone mentioning some russians being at Bar Rouge awhile back.
I am not so much into EE's but I am here in Shanghai for the next week if you or anyone else wants to meet up. I wouldn't mind checking out Bar Rouge with you. I had scored a freebie from there last year and might try my luck again. I might check out Manhattan tonight if I survive the knockout drops from Lady Gaga beforehand.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
New visitor looking forward to my first visit to Shanghai.
Anything going on near the airport?
I'm staying in the Ramada.
[QUOTE=AKRogger; 1170383]Just got my subscription and PM should be activated soon. Anyone wanys to tie up, PM me.
What a disappointment if Shanghai is short on EE's. Can anyone else confirm bar rouge? Was reading somewhere that Judy's may have some too. Any info on this?
Oakley, I will PM you in a bit for tieing up a schedule.
Rogger. [/QUOTE]The more high end the club the more EE I have seen. But they don't look like working girls more like models. The only EE hookers I have seen in China, HK, and Macau were pretty ugly. Only the dancers in macao were hot but no clue if they were for hire.
[QUOTE=George North; 1170594]Hi,
New visitor looking forward to my first visit to Shanghai.
Anything going on near the airport?
I'm staying in the Ramada. [/QUOTE]Pretty far out. Nothing popular that far away. I would say take a taxi to bodi. It should be no more then 30 minutes.
Hey,
I am in SH for the day at the Mandarin and thinking of ordering in and then takeout later. Can you point me in the right direction for ordering in and best recommendations for takeout later. We provide full report from your suggestions and thanks guys.
Oakley,
Which ones are the high-end clubs? Models sound interesting and will be a good challenge :P.
I don't mind paying for the elite, but, should be worth the bucks!
As for the EE hookers, in Beijing, I have taken out 10ers from Chocolate. Absolutely stunning. Tall, curvy, long legs. Aah I love it. Once I also took out a pole dancer from there and she was absolutely out of this world.
[QUOTE=Osuul;1170601]The more high end the club the more EE I have seen. But they don't look like working girls more like models. The only EE hookers I have seen in China, HK, and Macau were pretty ugly. Only the dancers in macao were hot but no clue if they were for hire.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AKRogger; 1170698]Oakley,
Which ones are the high-end clubs? Models sound interesting and will be a good challenge :P.
I don't mind paying for the elite, but, should be worth the bucks!
As for the EE hookers, in Beijing, I have taken out 10ers from Chocolate. Absolutely stunning. Tall, curvy, long legs. Aah I love it. Once I also took out a pole dancer from there and she was absolutely out of this world. [/QUOTE]Try bar rouge, M1nt, Muse.
[QUOTE=Shmitty;1170379]Like most of these places, you're not going to get the brass ring on the first visit, plus I am language deficient, but the HJ was the best I can remember, really good technique and attention. No negotiation, just gave her 200 at the end and no issues.[/QUOTE]Agree with Shmitty, brass ring out the gate not likely. You need to build the relationship with the owner and girls. Most MPs have a VIP program. If you find one you like (and a girl you like) , drop the 1000 or so to become a VIP. It is essentially a pre-pay and a 20% discount. Usually the girl gets a cut. I have been going to the same MP for a few years, I reload the VIP card now and again. Have my few girls I like to rotate through. In house service includes an hour and 15 good quality massage followed 45 minutes of clothing optional fun, usually BBBJ / CIM and HJ, tip 200. But never FS in house, I don't even ask. Take out is a 2+ hour at home suana experience / GFE. FS, multiple pops, tip 300.
I've tried the saunas, BBS, club / bar take out, etc. I find that for consistency, a good MP relationship is a proven winner.
What is the word for BBS in Chinese?
Guys, across the road where Ramada Plaza Pudong is (not in front, but on a "diagonal" if you know what I mean) there are maybe 2-3 massage places. Have you been there? Legit or what?
Cheers,
Sauro
Hello,
I want to stay in a good hotel with FS in room service inside, if it si possible with spa / sauna, etc. Near the airport. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1170796]Guys, across the road where Ramada Plaza Pudong is (not in front, but on a "diagonal" if you know what I mean) there are maybe 2-3 massage places. Have you been there? Legit or what?[/quote]On the corner Sha Na Na is legit. Congen next to it. Also legit. And Bamboo next to it. Legit.
But.
You can turn right on hongfeng lu and walk for five minutes and find what you're looking for. As you walk along hongfeng lu, you will pass a church, then after that, a Parkway Health clinic. Another 100 meters and you are at the highway four lane yangao lu. Cross it. Just as you cross there are two newly renovated sports bars (usually with filipinas) on the right. Just past them is a massage joint. Look over to you left at the side street and you will see a couple more massage joints. If you contine stright ahead for another 3-4 minutes, you come to jintai lu. Turn right and walk down it to find four or five barber shops on the left hand side. A couple of massage joints on the right hand side.
This is area is local. Have fun with all the fres off the farm talent. They have the best "5s" and "6s" in town! Just don't expect any 7s or above unless it's really your lucky day.
[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1170796]Guys, across the road where Ramada Plaza Pudong is (not in front, but on a "diagonal" if you know what I mean) there are maybe 2-3 massage places. Have you been there? Legit or what?
Cheers,
Sauro[/QUOTE]I think they are mostly legit, but I has a buddy who had a HE in Shanana a while back. Not sure today.
Another place nearby is My Spa on MingYue Lu and BaihuaLu. It is next to a DVD shop. Have had a reasonable FS there. Number 9 was a good fun gal. From the Ramada, walk past Carrefour, turn left on YunShan Lu, then a right on MingYue Lu, then another block or so. On the righthand side.
This place used to be a fun area, but since the expo, entire luwan district has become Vatican city. Any one know of any places still to have fun? Even MPs with HE.
Can someone send me an invititation code please
[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1170717]Agree with Shmitty, brass ring out the gate not likely. You need to build the relationship with the owner and girls. Most MPs have a VIP program. If you find one you like (and a girl you like) , drop the 1000 or so to become a VIP. It is essentially a pre-pay and a 20% discount. Usually the girl gets a cut. I have been going to the same MP for a few years, I reload the VIP card now and again. Have my few girls I like to rotate through. In house service includes an hour and 15 good quality massage followed 45 minutes of clothing optional fun, usually BBBJ / CIM and HJ, tip 200. But never FS in house, I don't even ask. Take out is a 2+ hour at home suana experience / GFE. FS, multiple pops, tip 300.
I've tried the saunas, BBS, club / bar take out, etc. I find that for consistency, a good MP relationship is a proven winner. [/QUOTE]Agreed. The way the VIP was explained to me by my regular girl when I had one is that they have to get customers to open or re-up the card three times per month (meaning one from you, one from me, one from him). Failure to get that done is probation for one month, out the door if after two. I did have FS in the massage place, and I know a few others have as well. My regular place was the one just off the corner of Weifang and Pudong Nan Lu, across from The Max and next to the video store toward Shimao Riviera Gardens from Pudong Nan. I also had overnight takeout that was something like 300 to the house (no discount) and whatever else to the girl, sometimes cash, sometimes shopping, sometimes nothing.
The only reason it fell apart for me was the girl thought I was an ATM and wanted to borrow some cash, and by some I mean 5-figures USD. So I recommend having a stable of girls to rotate through, keeps them honest.