Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2834572]She is not that desirable when you meet her in person.[/QUOTE]That new fashion upper lip surgery is a disaster. I wonder if any of these girls get prettier after going through such a surgery.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2834613]It's great to have a huge tit in your mouth while another girl sucks your dick.[/QUOTE]I've only had a single 3-way in Thailand and my favorite position was similar. I like receiving oral from one girl and DFK from the other.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2833737]This guy is doing a great job of covering the soi daily, he walks the soi up and down multiple times a day.

He interracts with the girls, and they all like him. Strangely the girls that usually cover their faces in other videos have no problem to show their faces with him.

Good way to see the state of the soi, how many girls, which girls, how busy the soi is in live.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF8bcg8CvyQ[/URL][/QUOTE]Doing a great job? I've lived in Pattaya for nearly a decade, these low life creatures are despised by the expats. One way to get you in to trouble for sure is being seen on a camera by your Mrs.

Making money out of filming guys having fun. They make me sick.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2834730]...Making money out of filming guys having fun. They make me sick.[/QUOTE]Agree with you 100%. That will force me to wear a mask, when I plan to be in Pattaya in 6 weeks. And it is not only Mrs, but friends and colleagues at work, who will know that I am in Thailand snorkeling.

On the other hand, as these guys are already there and do their evil most producing no information, having a BM pointing to informative ones have value. Just point to the time fragment, as the movie is 7+hour long. For example, the girl I liked is seen on [URL]https://www.youtube.com/live/SF8bcg8CvyQ?t=1h35m01s[/URL] (constructed as the youtube link followed by? T=1 h35 m01's for the start time at 1 h 35 m and 1 second).

I'm not sure why this guy would spend all his time posting YouTube videos of Soi 6. He will never be monetized for any of these videos because of copyright laws on the music in the bars. I film a bunch of Soi 6, LK, and Walking Street stuff too but rest assured none of it will be found on the internet.

Someone like a customer, girl, or bar owner will confront him soon enough. Lots of let's just say wanted felons on Soi 6 so this guy better have his head on a swivel. Seen quite a few fights on Walking Street over the years of vloggers getting beaten up.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2834730]Making money out of filming guys having fun. They make me sick.[/QUOTE]

Isn't there currently some TikTok or Instagram influencer who is facing 5 years in a Thai prison for doing this? He has threatened to kill himself if he is sent to jail.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2834730]Doing a great job? I've lived in Pattaya for nearly a decade, these low life creatures are despised by the expats. One way to get you in to trouble for sure is being seen on a camera by your Mrs.

Making money out of filming guys having fun. They make me sick.[/QUOTE]If that makes you sick and you think these guys are low life creatures just for that, you must have lived a very sheltered life.

[QUOTE=CaptainSalami;2834651]Hi all.

Also. How rare are the squirters in Pattaya? Can you ask for this in the bar?

[/QUOTE]Out of 100 ladies, 2 are squirters, and a 3rd sort of pulses water out of her pussy.

To be avoided.

I "discovered" all 3 the same way, in a 3 some, with one lady giving me a BJ while the squirter hopped onto my face for a ride. Since I was immobile, the squirting was down my throat. Not fun.

[QUOTE=CaptainSalami;2834651]Hi all.

Am counting the days to arrival now in 12 days. Am keen to do some action filming. Any advice on how to broach this? Can I ask in the bar if ok? Any expectation of extra $ for this? Will it offend?

Anyone around the area 24th to 28th keen for a beer?

Also. How rare are the squirters in Pattaya? Can you ask for this in the bar?

What's the latest on the windmill not being nude?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I made a video with a girl from Beach Road with no problem. She was comfortable with me and we hit it off pretty good. Nice shower and then made the production. I like making videos.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834772]I'm not sure why this guy would spend all his time posting YouTube videos of Soi 6. He will never be monetized for any of these videos because of copyright laws on the music in the bars. I film a bunch of Soi 6, LK, and Walking Street stuff too but rest assured none of it will be found on the internet.

Someone like a customer, girl, or bar owner will confront him soon enough. Lots of let's just say wanted felons on Soi 6 so this guy better have his head on a swivel. Seen quite a few fights on Walking Street over the years of vloggers getting beaten up.



Isn't there currently some TikTok or Instagram influencer who is facing 5 years in a Thai prison for doing this? He has threatened to kill himself if he is sent to jail.[/QUOTE]All charges Dropped. Weird but they say he and his crew have to go to court still. Passport s not returned till that is done.

I saw the incident in Real Time.

Ice Poseidon. Not hard to see what happened if you Google.

It was far from Filming on Soi 6 that got him in Trouble.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2834710]That new fashion upper lip surgery is a disaster. I wonder if any of these girls get prettier after going through such a surgery.[/QUOTE]No.

Girls need to know if they aren't all that attractive to begin with Surgery will not Help.

If anyone is familiar with Arisa of Sexy Bar Livestream fame check her before and after nos job photos.

Went from not the best Nose in Thailand to a bottom 10% Nose. No offense. Just absolutely Horrible.

P.S. . She is a Drunk to boot.

Scripted or Not.

It just can't be. Use Pattaya as location in Thailand.

Last night you Tuber SUSpendas had dinner with his fiance's Mommy. Apparently she is one of Those girls,. Never went with customers. Hahaha.

During dinner the topic of Real Estate came up. Of course GF wants a big house, she said so.

I guess it's the right time for Mommy to pull up photos on her phone to show our Boy of what kind of real estate she wants. Looks like she wanted income producing Property.

Weird or not weird. To me it all made sense. Meme of marrying girls of he Bar is true.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834772]I'm not sure why this guy would spend all his time posting YouTube videos of Soi 6. He will never be monetized for any of these videos because of copyright laws on the music in the bars. I film a bunch of Soi 6, LK, and Walking Street stuff too but rest assured none of it will be found on the internet.

Someone like a customer, girl, or bar owner will confront him soon enough. Lots of let's just say wanted felons on Soi 6 so this guy better have his head on a swivel. Seen quite a few fights on Walking Street over the years of vloggers getting beaten up.



Isn't there currently some TikTok or Instagram influencer who is facing 5 years in a Thai prison for doing this? He has threatened to kill himself if he is sent to jail.[/QUOTE]Many people seem to think these Korean live streamers are live streaming 6 or 7 hours daily for zero money. That is not true. These guys may be immoral narcissists for exploiting the bargirls and filming people with total disregard for privacy. But they are not dumb guys that are aimlessly wondering around Pattaya all day. They know what they are doing.

Youtube is not their main platform because their type of content cannot be monetized in Youtube (nightlife content, music copyright issues). Their primary platform is some Korea-based platform which is monetized through platform money called "balloons" or "coins". During the livestream, their Korean viewers send them "balloons" or "coins" and these guys keep most of the money for themselves and use some of it to buy drinks for the bargirls.

But they live stream simultaneously on Youtube to increase their exposure because no platform is larger than Youtube. If a Korean viewer discovers them on Youtube and then switches to the Korean Platform and sends them "balloons" or "coins". Then that is passive income to them via Youtube. Youtube probably does not know that they are being exploited as well, although I'm not 100% certain about this.

These guys only interview pretty girls because the prettier the girl, the higher the chance of viewers sending platform money. You will notice that sometimes they ignore the bargirls completely and concentrate on the viewers in his live stream chat window. The guy is constantly talking to his viewers during the 6 or 7 hours of live stream because the viewers are the ones sending the "balloons" or "coins". And that's all they care about. They do not care about the bargirls. They are only using them. They only care about the "balloons" or "coins" that the viewers send.

In my opinion, these live streamers are the worst lowlifes. Just look at the guy. He looks like a social reject. If you were the president of a company, would you hire this guy to be your employee? I would not. He looks totally unrealiable. If someone tried to stop him from live streaming, he will probably become belligerent because most likely this is his only form of income currently.

Hope this clears up the mystery.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2834623]I am sorry but did you pay her or she paid you to bang her. LOL![/QUOTE]You bring up a very interesting point.

Come to think of it, it certainly felt like I was the service provider and she was acting like she was the customer.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2834569]If you say she looks and fucks like a man, she is going to get a lot of customers from this forum.[/QUOTE]I said, without clothes, she looks like a man.

I did not say she fucks like a man. I said it felt like fucking a man.

If she fucked like a man, then she would be leading and doing all the work. It was quite the opposite.

Or perhaps you are referring to having sex with a ladyboy?

I must say thank you for all the stuff you guys put on here, makes me ready to go to Thailand. November can't get here any faster.

I have probably read through 80 pages at all yall have said.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2834886]I said, without clothes, she looks like a man.

I did not say she fucks like a man. I said it felt like fucking a man.

If she fucked like a man, then she would be leading and doing all the work. It was quite the opposite.

Or perhaps you are referring to having sex with a ladyboy?[/QUOTE]I go with all sorts of ladies, some I fuck, some fuck me.

One lady I know is basically a ladyboy in a woman's body, I won't take a shower with her because she is too aggressive. And she doesn't fuck. Her former Farang boyfriend would go with other bargirls before she come home after work.

She licks pussy far better than I do.

Concerning 3 somes: the best are unplanned. A couple of ladies drinking Tequila, and then things happen. Unfortunately, it sometimes means that I am ignored, although things generally work out at the end.

[QUOTE=CaptainSalami;2834651]Hi all.

Am counting the days to arrival now in 12 days. Am keen to do some action filming. Any advice on how to broach this? Can I ask in the bar if ok? Any expectation of extra $ for this? Will it offend?

Anyone around the area 24th to 28th keen for a beer?

Also. How rare are the squirters in Pattaya? Can you ask for this in the bar?

What's the latest on the windmill not being nude?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I had pretty good luck in Phuket and Pattaya with asking girls to film. There were some girls who said no and then also refused to meet with me because they were afraid I would do it secretly (I would not do that). But the first girl in Phuket said yes. She was an escort and said it actually turned her on. She asked for a tip for it. I gave her an extra 500 and she was very happy with it.

Then I got 4 different girls to agree to it from Thai Friendly. The one girl said I couldn't film her face, but I had a nice video of her ass as she bounced up and down on me reverse cowgirls. Another girl I saw once and she had done some stuff that was on a couple porn sites. She wasn't that attractive, but she rubbed my cum all over her face and said it was good for her skin. She was a little nuts and I didn't see her again. The other two girls I saw multiple times and both seemed very comfortable. One seemed to get a little shy at times, but both would open their mouths and show me the cum on video. The one in particular looked great doing DT. I miss that girl.

I actually uploaded the videos to my gmail drive, but they disappeared. The other porn I uploaded is still there, so I'm not sure what happened. I assume google took it down for violating policy or something, but that doesn't explain why the other stuff is still there. Anyway, I'm bummed that it's lost forever, unless I can figure out how to get it off my phone after it was deleted.

I showed a couple stills to monkeypaw, if he's still on this site.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2834634]Read what you originally wrote.

You said "you" to me. You did not say that she has no clue.

So you've been living in Pattaya for the last twenty years.

Now, it makes sense why you are angry, incoherent, and sound half-drunk.[/QUOTE]Maybe you missed the post where I acknowledge it! " gave you too much credit ".

What you are missing when I'm basically messing with you just like the others but trying to get past the Bam Boom Bam, by the way, thanks for posting and sharing so when I'm not angry, incoherent, and sound drunk. Being human I do get angry and at my age incoherent but drunk never living here that is the worse thing you should do.

To be clear, when you talk about Soi Six, what you don't seem to realize from your original post you make reference to the girl looking like a man, it felt like fucking like a man, but you " don't know anything about that " it sounds a bit funny as if you are gay, in the closet or something curious " so you are curious? Just walk over to the next Soi 6/1, there are choices there for you to find out and no translation is needed to tell " it " how to treat a customer. Let's be clear to each his own but LBM doesn't play that shit I can 100% say I don't know anything about it or remotely have a clue! I usually park my bike in the small path between the two Soi, I guess the " its " see I being angry, incoherent enough to not approach and just leave me alone.

You come across as very young and naive, be glad you got an angry old dud like me to set you straight I would be the first to admit I don't write well explained it here a number of times but it doesn't bother me nor do I run away from it. Funny though it seems those who write well educated well in a good profession get what they are reading but just don't like what is being said enjoy and I hope I don't need to provide you more clues?

[QUOTE=Cbear13;2834890]I must say thank you for all the stuff you guys put on here, makes me ready to go to Thailand. November can't get here any faster.
[/QUOTE]Nothing you read on here will make you ready for the shock known as Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Bam Boom Bam;2834876] Their primary platform is some Korea-based platform which is monetized through platform money called "balloons" or "coins". During the livestream, their Korean viewers send them "balloons" or "coins" and these guys keep most of the money for themselves and use some of it to buy drinks for the bargirls.[/QUOTE]

What are the site url's?

[QUOTE=Cusland;2834730]Making money out of filming guys having fun. They make me sick.[/QUOTE]This particular guy is not filming other guys having fun, unless you talk about the people just walking in the soi.

He doesn't enter bars with customers, he film the girls and put his crowd in contact with them, a bit different from all the walkers who film whatever they see.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834955]Nothing you read on here will make you ready for the shock known as Pattaya.



What are the site url's?[/QUOTE]I only know of one Korea-based platform. There may be a few others. The one I know is called Afreecatv (note the spelling) ([URL]afreecatv.com[/URL]).

Most of it is in Korean so it's hard to navigate through the site. I can't either.

Maybe you can speak a little Korean? During Covid, I remember you saying you were in Korea and unable to enter Thailand.

Was that you or am I confusing you with someone else?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834955]Nothing you read on here will make you ready for the shock known as Pattaya.



What are the site url's?[/QUOTE]Yeah live steaming is very common since TiK Tok, it's all over Asia now and many make massive money from it from dancing singing cosplay to advertising. There's multiple millionaires like a guy testing selling and recommending lipstick to women by using it himself live online.

Others you just buy some kind of coin and send them virtual car planes Ballon is whatever which has different monetary value, they give the platform a cut and then keep the rest. Nothing really new. Him using YouTube, is like using IG (insta) with sexy pics to promote your OF (onlyfans) with your nude pics.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834772]Someone like a customer, girl, or bar owner will confront him soon enough. Lots of let's just say wanted felons on Soi 6 so this guy better have his head on a swivel. Seen quite a few fights on Walking Street over the years of vloggers getting beaten up.[/QUOTE]Not sure about that.

They are also doing some non recorded stuff live inside the bar that can be viewed only to live watchers.

Girls are being lined up in front of the camera and performing some serious ass shaking for around ten minutes, the winner gets a 100 baht note tip and looks happy with that.

Then comes the tab, a very long one filled with tens of LDs, like the pictures we see posted on facebook to lure customers spending more on drinks and to show girls that customers spend a lot on drinks and there is money to be made out of it. I always wondered who come and spend so much just on LDs in these bars (apart from managers of other bars in that same soi), now I've got a partial answer with these guys.

Then it's the turn of the manager to come show his face on camera and get rewarded with a 1 K note with a big smile.

At the moment the guy leaves the bar every body is happy.

Cashier's?

Look closely at the Playpens Cashier. That's what guys are getting when they say they get FREE. Hahaha. They all look alike.

[QUOTE=FreeDude;2834557]Ha, I took her upstairs in Kawaii as well. She obviously has no idea what she's doing, but to go off on her like that tells me more about you. She is sweet and tries, and was very willing to go upstairs with me. Doesn't know how to kiss, but tries a lot anyway. A lot of tongue and saliva involved. Her body is tight and she does have pretty a cups, I am not sure what a guy looks like for you. She allows herself to be fingered deeply, while slobbering all over me, which went over into sex pretty naturally. I have had better and worse on the 6.[/QUOTE]Good for you if you were happy with her.

You wouldn't be so happy if, after the session, she demanded that you buy her five tequila rose shots at 180 Baht each.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834955]Nothing you read on here will make you ready for the shock known as Pattaya.

[/QUOTE]Just a positive slant on this true comment. The "shock" is a good one. If you are a guy who likes a LOT of options, the land of smiles has a lot of them. If optics (beauty) are important then you'll be disappointed. Finding gems amongst a lot of average to below average girls is not that easy. But them gems are out there. I was criticised in this forum last October for commenting on a 10/10 in a gents club. High Rollers. I'm actually very picky, and in now 30 years of mongering I've maybe rated 4 or 5 girls as true 10's. So I don't bandy high ratings easily. But there was that one. So much so that VERY unusually for me (I like to savour the choices having been in several bars / clubs in one evening), I saw this girl and was no longer interested in any other that night.

What is SO good about Pattaya are the mongering options. From the agogos of WS and elsewhere, enjoying the shows, to the Gents Clubs, afternoon offerings, BJ bars, normal bars with a lot of WGs to even street walkers and then of course the soapies and "normal" massage places. The options abound. If, like me, you are now sadly past the stage where your refractory period is only 20 minutes, so can have 3,4 or more shots in a session or even a day, the options here make for difficult choices. Had I been coming to this place 25 years ago I suspect I would have engaged in 3 or more of those activities daily! But I'm a two pops max per day older guy now. But that also makes Pattaya excellent. Nice massage / soapie after a workout in the daytime, ready for evening and change of scene to GCs or other bar options for a longer session. You'll love it.

All that said, there isn't a lot else to do unless you like scooters, shopping malls, or playing pool! As I typed that I'm thinking "what are you talking about"? Standard day for me in Pattaya. Long walk before breakfast, eat, relax, gentle stroll to Centre Point 21 or a market, bit of shopping, maybe a foot massage. Nothing naughty. Just to relieve the feet. Workout before lunch. Eat, swim, sunbathe, afternoon Gents club, bit of pool, early evening non-naughty professional massage for peanuts when the sun is going down, hotel, shower, ready for the night, dinner, visits to the some of the hundreds of bars / agogos / clubs / bit of live music, selection and sleep. Had far far worse options / trips.

You'll love that "shock" of Pattaya.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2834808]If that makes you sick and you think these guys are low life creatures just for that, you must have lived a very sheltered life.[/QUOTE]LOL. Absolutely the opposite. I spend my time having fun. I don't live it vicariously through the eyes of a YouTuber.

What they see through their camera is seen globally. By peoples relatives, by the authorities etc. The only people who it serves is those making the videos and the people living sheltered lifestyles at home and need this sort of crap. Take a good look in the mirror. See who is being sheltered from the real world.

I see more 600-800 baht ads on twitter from the same type of girls that normally ask 1500-2000 from tourists. This is the prices directed at the local market. Not these rip-off tourist prices of 2000-3000 baht etc.

The increase of this ads can be a sign that there a few customers and prices are heading down. I also want to inform readers about the prices local thaimen pay when it comes to the price you should pay. Should a tourist really pay 1500-2000 if a Thai pays 600-700?

[QUOTE=Cusland;2835030]What they see through their camera is seen globally. By peoples relatives, by the authorities etc. The only people who it serves is those making the videos and the people living sheltered lifestyles at home and need this sort of crap.[/QUOTE]Trust me, I don't have a dog in this fight but I can't imagine my friends, kids or co-workers spending hours looking at Pattaya videos on the off chance that they may see me; especially when they don't have the attention span to watch a 15 second TikTok video.

[QUOTE=Fmojo;2835084]Trust me, I don't have a dog in this fight but I can't imagine my friends, kids or co-workers spending hours looking at Pattaya videos on the off chance that they may see me; especially when they don't have the attention span to watch a 15 second TikTok video.[/QUOTE]I have said the same thing in other threads. In the Medellin thread people swear that that streetwalkers' families have seen them standing around soliciting people on obscure videos placed on youtube by a foreigner. What are the chances? If not zero, then way close to zero.

I live in Pattaya and have never watched such videos that people are talking about here. As Cusland said, I live it, no need to sit around and watch other people's take on it. I also have not watched any gardening videos and would not sit and watch them for hours on end because I am not interested in gardening. Likewise, I most certainly do not have any friends and family that are going to waste hours of their lives watching shit they are not interested in (eg Pattaya bar crawl videos), thoroughly inspecting it enough to just happen to see me in 2 seconds of it.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2835030]LOL. Absolutely the opposite. I spend my time having fun. I don't live it vicariously through the eyes of a YouTuber.

What they see through their camera is seen globally. By peoples relatives, by the authorities etc. The only people who it serves is those making the videos and the people living sheltered lifestyles at home and need this sort of crap. Take a good look in the mirror. See who is being sheltered from the real world.[/QUOTE]I'm in Rio right now and there's a lot more people here who I'd consider scum over some guy making YouTube videos. I've mongered here, Sao Paulo, Bogota. Medellin and more and gone to the local red light areas such as Vila Mimosa and Santa Fe. There's people in these places who would happily rob you at gun or knife point if they got the chance, that's who I consider scum, not some guy filming people on a public street.

I think it's perfectly reasonable not to like the YouTubers, I just think calling them scum is a large exaggeration. How do you feel about the people who post naked pictures of the working girls on here or other forums without the girls permission? That's worse than filming people in public in my humble opinion.

[QUOTE=Fmojo;2835084]Trust me, I don't have a dog in this fight but I can't imagine my friends, kids or co-workers spending hours looking at Pattaya videos on the off chance that they may see me; especially when they don't have the attention span to watch a 15 second TikTok video.[/QUOTE]It's not the matter of someone actively looking for "your" image, but somebody casually looking at a video and casually see a person they shouldn't.

A case in a million? Maybe, but I wouldn't be the one.

I once was in the upper deck of a TG 747 bound to BKK.

The night after landing I saw in NEP a guy who was sitting in my row on the flight.

Like it or not, both BKK and Pattaya are visited by rather famous or recognisable people who attend their nightlife with some degree of discretion. They might not necessarily identified by the crowd on the ground but might be seen in a video by someone who can recognise them.

True someone might ask "why the hell are you looking at those videos about Pattaya night life?" It's a legitimate YT video, not a porn movie you'the be embarrassed to tell you are watching.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2834964]I only know of one Korea-based platform. There may be a few others. The one I know is called Afreecatv (note the spelling) ([URL]afreecatv.com[/URL]).

Most of it is in Korean so it's hard to navigate through the site. I can't either.

Maybe you can speak a little Korean? During Covid, I remember you saying you were in Korea and unable to enter Thailand.

Was that you or am I confusing you with someone else?[/QUOTE]I for one would be adverse to an increase in the Korean presence in Pattaya. (I know they're already there and your groups have deals with bars).

They're starting to complain about the scene in Angeles city despite them being the dominant demographic there for a decade now, and running the place to shit. They've completely priced themselves out of the market there by bringing their expensive mongering practices from home, and now might be looking for a new playground to ruin.

The Thais are far more organized than the Filipinos and are less likely to let Koreans do to Pattaya what was done to Angeles, but I still can't shake that worrying feeling.

Sometime in the future facial recognition will be able to scan videos. Your grandkids might google search you just for fun and see you at some nude bar in soi 6.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2835112]It's not the matter of someone actively looking for "your" image, but somebody casually looking at a video and casually see a person they shouldn't.

A case in a million? Maybe, but I wouldn't be the one.

I once was in the upper deck of a TG 747 bound to BKK.

The night after landing I saw in NEP a guy who was sitting in my row on the flight.

Like it or not, both BKK and Pattaya are visited by rather famous or recognisable people who attend their nightlife with some degree of discretion. They might not necessarily identified by the crowd on the ground but might be seen in a video by someone who can recognise them.

True someone might ask "why the hell are you looking at those videos about Pattaya night life?" It's a legitimate YT video, not a porn movie you'the be embarrassed to tell you are watching.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fmojo;2835084]Trust me, I don't have a dog in this fight but I can't imagine my friends, kids or co-workers spending hours looking at Pattaya videos on the off chance that they may see me; especially when they don't have the attention span to watch a 15 second TikTok video.[/QUOTE]This is a two-sided argument for me. I've been going to Pattaya and / or Bangkok since 2010; once or twice a year. Being single I have that luxury. That said, I get odd looks from family (daughter) and friends when I tell them I'm going to Thailand again (or Costa Rica for that matter). I'm certainly not saying that I'm going to these countries looking for young pussy. So, it may get them to go onto YouTube to see where I'm headed. Thailand sure seems to be a far trip because they have "beautiful golf courses"! I sure can't say they have nice casinos, like I say when going to Costa Rica. So nowadays I pretty much keep my travel plans to myself.

True story: When I was living in Florida, I went to a favorite hangout of mine. In comes a nice looking youngish woman who sits beside me. I'm in the middle of telling the bartender that I'm headed to Costa Rica soon. The woman asks, what am I going to Costa Rica for; I respond for the "fishing"! She replies that it's a coincidence as her husband is in Costa Rica at that very moment, "fishing". She goes on to clarify that he is staying in the famous Hotel Del Rey, the biggest bordello in Latin America at that time. The bartender and I both turned our faces away to not bust out in laughter. Guys know why guys go to Costa Rica. Sure fishing is one reason, but the Hotel Del Rey is not near any body of water for anything other than "pussy fishing". Now, all one has to do is to look up the HDR to know what goes on there. By far though, there are more videos of Thailand as far as I've come across. Now I'm just talking about YouTube. I'm not savvy enough to look much deeper, but I'm sure they're out there.

Costa Rica put into place a law that you can't promote the sex trade of their country. It was primarily aimed at one vlogger; "Cuba Dave"; who did regular visits that promoted where you could go to find pussy, how much it cost, what hotels to use, etc. He was arrested on landing in CR and did some serious time in a rough CR jail. Don't be surprised if Thailand comes up with something similar.

Going to Pattaya and being incognito is getting harder and harder. On any given day in any of the known bar areas that foreigners frequent, you can see 1 to 100 cameras a night being used to take videos of the bar areas. In fact, when a guy asks me why I go to Pattaya, I just say; "look up Soi 6 or Walking Street" and watch some of the videos. Trying to explain what is available in those venues is just too hard to describe!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2834900]Concerning 3 somes: the best are unplanned. A couple of ladies drinking Tequila, and then things happen. Unfortunately, it sometimes means that I am ignored, although things generally work out at the end.[/QUOTE]Almost on cue: I selected 2 ladies last night, they drank Tequila, and then double-teamed me. No interaction between them, though.

One oddity: one lady fucked me with a condom, and then the second hopped on. Using the same condom.

[QUOTE=Fmojo;2835084]... I can't imagine my friends, kids or co-workers spending hours looking at Pattaya videos on the off chance that they may see me; especially when they don't have the attention span to watch a 15 second TikTok video.[/QUOTE]Unannounced to me, in 2021 one of my prior holiday girlfriends posted a TikTok of me. A bit later, one of my 2020 holiday girlfriends saw that video and told me about it. I didn't believe her, so she did a screen capture for proof. I confronted my prior holiday girfriend about what she posted and she ghosted me; haven't heard from her in almost 2 years now.

I have no idea how of my pictures and videos appear on social media. It can happen to all of us.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2835140]

I have no idea how of my pictures and videos appear on social media. It can happen to all of us.[/QUOTE]That's why I have a policy of never appearing in photos from anyone while I'm travelling for fun.

I can't think of any positive ramifications of having photos of me in a red light district or surrounded by barely dressed hookers.

I do believe that. But I guess it can't be much different then going to Colombia, or Philippines.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834955]Nothing you read on here will make you ready for the shock known as Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Goferring;2835144]That's why I have a policy of never appearing in photos from anyone while I'm travelling for fun.

I can't think of any positive ramifications of having photos of me in a red light district or surrounded by barely dressed hookers.[/QUOTE]I stopped bargirls showing me on social media a few year back. They love to show their friends that they have a customer, especially if the customer is stupid enough to go to their village.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2835144]That's why I have a policy of never appearing in photos from anyone while I'm travelling for fun.

I can't think of any positive ramifications of having photos of me in a red light district or surrounded by barely dressed hookers.[/QUOTE]Me, too, buddy but I have a legendary status with some former mongers in USA to maintain ha!

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2835058]I see more 600-800 baht ads on twitter from the same type of girls that normally ask 1500-2000 from tourists. This is the prices directed at the local market. Not these rip-off tourist prices of 2000-3000 baht etc.

The increase of this ads can be a sign that there a few customers and prices are heading down. I also want to inform readers about the prices local thaimen pay when it comes to the price you should pay. Should a tourist really pay 1500-2000 if a Thai pays 600-700?[/QUOTE]Well, if 1500-2000 baht gets me an upfront agreement for no hurry, no hassle, no further discussion DFK, DATY, BBBJ along with either a BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW finish while Thai men are fine without any of that, yeah, I'd pay the additional 800-1300 baht in a heartbeat and be happy about it.

In fact, I would repeat on those terms often. And I'm not even a tourist.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2835159]Well, if 1500-2000 baht gets me an upfront agreement for no hurry, no hassle, no further discussion DFK, DATY, BBBJ along with either a BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW finish while Thai men are fine without any of that, yeah, I'd pay the additional 800-1300 baht in a heartbeat and be happy about it.

In fact, I would repeat on those terms often. And I'm not even a tourist.[/QUOTE]The Thai discount: yesterday, I had a lady LT at my condo. She stayed 4 hours, would have stayed longer, but I had 2 ladies coming. I paid 2000 baht.

Later, she went overnight with a Thai customer. He paid 1000 baht. She would have gone for free if he were younger and single.

If you visit Pattaya, or live in Pattaya for that matter, it is impossible to avoid being filmed by one of these Youtubers.

There are probably at least a few dozen of them.

Even the Youtubers themselves get filmed by other Youtubers.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2835121]I for one would be adverse to an increase in the Korean presence in Pattaya. (I know they're already there and your groups have deals with bars).

They're starting to complain about the scene in Angeles city despite them being the dominant demographic there for a decade now, and running the place to shit. They've completely priced themselves out of the market there by bringing their expensive mongering practices from home, and now might be looking for a new playground to ruin.

The Thais are far more organized than the Filipinos and are less likely to let Koreans do to Pattaya what was done to Angeles, but I still can't shake that worrying feeling.[/QUOTE]Can you explain more as to what you meant that the Koreans did in Angeles?

And if it was making it pricier, why would the Thais not like that as it would mean more income.

Already in Bangkok Korea Town mall and Thermae across the road in Sukhumvit are heavily geared to Korean prices.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2835121]I for one would be adverse to an increase in the Korean presence in Pattaya. (I know they're already there and your groups have deals with bars).

They're starting to complain about the scene in Angeles city despite them being the dominant demographic there for a decade now, and running the place to shit. They've completely priced themselves out of the market there by bringing their expensive mongering practices from home, and now might be looking for a new playground to ruin.

The Thais are far more organized than the Filipinos and are less likely to let Koreans do to Pattaya what was done to Angeles, but I still can't shake that worrying feeling.[/QUOTE]Koreans are already number one mongers in Walking Street. Pretty soon, they will become number one mongers in all of Pattaya.

About them taking over Pattaya bars like in Angeles City, that may not be as easy because Pattaya is a much bigger area and the nightlife areas are spread apart in clusters.

But I can imagine them taking over a whole soi and turning it into a little Korea Town of bars.

I just hope that soi is some obscure soi, and not Soi 6.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2835121]I for one would be adverse to an increase in the Korean presence in Pattaya. (I know they're already there and your groups have deals with bars).

They're starting to complain about the scene in Angeles city despite them being the dominant demographic there for a decade now, and running the place to shit. They've completely priced themselves out of the market there by bringing their expensive mongering practices from home, and now might be looking for a new playground to ruin.

The Thais are far more organized than the Filipinos and are less likely to let Koreans do to Pattaya what was done to Angeles, but I still can't shake that worrying feeling.[/QUOTE]I don't think the Koreans are going to Pattaya and intentionally raising prices.

It's the girls overcharging the Koreans and other East Asians in general.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2835159]Well, if 1500-2000 baht gets me an upfront agreement for no hurry, no hassle, no further discussion DFK, DATY, BBBJ along with either a BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW finish while Thai men are fine without any of that, yeah, I'd pay the additional 800-1300 baht in a heartbeat and be happy about it.

In fact, I would repeat on those terms often. And I'm not even a tourist.[/QUOTE]I don't care to pay more than Thai men! I've money. If the girl is young and sexy, and I really want fuck her I can pay without hesitation 3000 or even 4000/5000 bahts, but I always fuck her bareback! This is the condition. I hate condoms, I'm very careful of the girl I take with me. And I love to come inside their pussy if it's possible! I go Pattaya for over 10 years, I never got any problems with that! Last may I was in Pattaya, and I can tell you that girls even don't ask me to wear a condom today.

And right now, I just come back from my second trip to Colombia, and it's same! I fuck 99% girls bareback!

[QUOTE=Horatio;2835129]Sometime in the future facial recognition will be able to scan videos. Your grandkids might google search you just for fun and see you at some nude bar in soi 6.[/QUOTE]In the future? That tech exists now.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2834955]Nothing you read on here will make you ready for the shock known as Pattaya.
[/QUOTE]Have to say that the first time I visited Walking Street was not merely shocking, it was unpleasant. And I'm no prude. I've mongered all over the world. What made it unpleasant for me was the sheer sensory overload. Too much too fast all at once. First time I have ever felt that way, almost a panic attack. I could think of nothing more important than yo get the fuck out. And our group actually had gone there to eat at one of the highly regarded waterfront seafood restaurants there, not to monger!

The girls I saw were attractive. But there was just too much. Touts, noise, smells. All the senses being overloaded all at once.

If you've been to Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza and think you've seen it all, you haven't seen anything.

Just got back from LOS.

A night in Bangkok where I auditioned a potential ThaiFriendly girl for an open holiday girlfriend position. She failed the interview. No talent in the sack, it was all about her and not about me, as it should be in a right & proper world. Ducking her was like tossing a hotdog down a hallway, which didn't help. Sent her packing the next morning with tears and a bottle of duty free perfume.

Called up a ThaiFriendly gal from last year. She'the done well for me but I had been hoping to upgrade. But old reliable had embarked on a self / improvement initiative over the past year. Diet & exercise. Actually gained a bit of weight, by adding muscle mass, but lost fat. So, much more shapely, fantastic muscle tone, and she now has a fantastic ass. Her best feature and she knows it. She should have been choice #1 from the get go, but my Johnson got greedy.

Her day job is as a medical health masseuse. Not "relax massage. " 40 yo MILF with a see-section scar. Nipples you could hang your hat on adorning shapely natural be-cups.

For those of you preaching a 3-day rule, you just aren't choosing well. I personally find ThaiFriendly to be excellent hunting grounds. But, I'm not looking for an 18-25 yo girl. I want a 30-40 yo girl who knows what she's doing, knows she has to earn her keep, has decent English skills, and is willing to spoil me outrageously 25/7. Careful pre-trip screening and communication are key. If they aren't willing to invest some time before you even arrive, they aren't the right gal. Narrow the field, rank order, then try them out. Don't be afraid to catch & release, then try again. By day 2, you should know enough if you should toss her back or keep her.

What can you get by making the time and effort? A magnificent, relaxing holiday. I ended up being outrageously pampered and having every whim catered to, 24/7. I was massaged, bathed, sucked, and fucked on demand, any way I wanted. Tightest pussy I have every fucked, even going back to my high school days. Benefit of see-section delivery. Positive attitude every minute.

Private villa with pool? $75/ day for my half (travelled with a wingman).

Food & entertainment: Maybe $20/ day for me and my girl.

Gift: 2000 baht / day, less than $60 USD.

GRABcar rides: Maybe $10/ day.

Total: $150-160 USD plus airfare.

Result. The most enjoyable and relaxing holiday I have ever had.

Just finished off a great 7 days in pattaya and 2 in Bangkok. LAst trip was a year ago.

Been following the forum. And other than explorers "she sucked my balls and we drank" posts (I'm still not as literary skilled as he is) , was expecting a low in pattaya. IT STILL ROCKS.

Between soi 6 , beach road and walking street = enough latent to have a diff girl every night. (some repeated).

Beach roads. Good variety. Short fat thin tall lady ladyboy. Summin for everyone. Loved the density. Compared to BKK around thermae. ID say 1: 10 ratio in choice.

TF: good variety and selection again. But quoting higher prices but settling for less.

Prices on average paid 1000 bht for ST. About 2 paid 1500. But asking was as high as 3000 to start.

Agogos and bars. Didn't pick anyone from there. Find them noisy and sensory overload. Not really my scene but I do check it out. Did pick a chick from food court in central pattaya after paying for her water!! A simple lunch and a good afternoon in bed with her it turned out to be.

Otherwise great food as always, hot weather (would have preferred slightly cooler) and just the convenience of pattaya punting makes it tops cf bkk where I struggled to find gals between nana, thermae and soi cowboy. One trip to koi san road felt like it had better stocks LOL.

Stayed at the LK Empress. Fits the bill. Very convenient location. Bad advertising on the balcony which is just a 2 ft cubicle with 1 chair and an ac extractor that blows such hot air, you can't stand a minute there!! Otherwise good breakfast, no issues with girls coming (except one who was refused as she was 19 and apparently under 20's not allowed) - anyone know this rule??

9 nights. About 13 girls. A bad bad hangover and I'm already missing it. Planning return trip already.

On last years visit I thought there we alot of indians. Now I know they taking over!

So other than the indians seen everywhere, the restaurants, the indian clubs on the ground, it seem the street working girls have started the language as well now (for obvious reasons). All the "honey / darling / my love / come we go fuck / hey handsome" and alot of other indian words I don't understand got thrown at me!! Who would expect that from thai working girls LOL.

Just FYI: I'm of indian descent but not "indian" as I've only set foot in that country once for a work trip. I have some comprehension of the language but can't speak it. Most people think I'm hispanic / arab but clearly in pattaya I was seen as an idian first LOL. Found that bit quite interesting, for obvious reasons.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;2835320]Have to say that the first time I visited Walking Street was not merely shocking, it was unpleasant. And I'm no prude. I've mongered all over the world. What made it unpleasant for me was the sheer sensory overload. Too much too fast all at once. First time I have ever felt that way, almost a panic attack. I could think of nothing more important than yo get the fuck out. And our group actually had gone there to eat at one of the highly regarded waterfront seafood restaurants there, not to monger!

The girls I saw were attractive. But there was just too much. Touts, noise, smells. All the senses being overloaded all at once.

If you've been to Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza and think you've seen it all, you haven't seen anything.[/QUOTE]I don't care for walking street, either. But beach road and other sois are fine and loaded with available Thai twats.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2835190]The Thai discount: yesterday, I had a lady LT at my condo. She stayed 4 hours, would have stayed longer, but I had 2 ladies coming......[/QUOTE]Don't you get fed up of all that copulation?

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2835253]I don't think the Koreans are going to Pattaya and intentionally raising prices.

It's the girls overcharging the Koreans and other East Asians in general.[/QUOTE]Inflation adjusted Soi 6 as a whole have gone down.

Old ugly fat girls don't have pricing power.

Chill people. How many times do you see Asians taking 2's and 3's.

Hint. None.

Broke You Tuber Cris Travel s coming to Pattaya maybe for a few days.

Don't engage nothing but Trouble. ,. Hahaha.

Stocky short ish South American fellow.

I warned you.

Lbm please respond.

2 tier pricing. Charge Farang 2,000 ,. Thai Man 1,000.

Just don't make sense.

Unless girl is just unattractive then it makes sense.

If I'm getting 2 k regular I'm not giving 1 k to CEO of Thai Anything. L.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2835440]Don't you get fed up of all that copulation?[/QUOTE]I change it up. Did 3 ladies the day before yesterday, but had 2 ladies last night for drinks only. Today, I have a lady coming in the afternoon for a fuck, and then a drinks only lady at night.

Pre-booking ladies a few days ahead of time allows me to mix it up.

Of corse, a drinks only lady can become a fuck if I am in the mood.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2835248]Koreans are already number one mongers in Walking Street. Pretty soon, they will become number one mongers in all of Pattaya.

About them taking over Pattaya bars like in Angeles City, that may not be as easy because Pattaya is a much bigger area and the nightlife areas are spread apart in clusters.

But I can imagine them taking over a whole soi and turning it into a little Korea Town of bars.

I just hope that soi is some obscure soi, and not Soi 6.[/QUOTE]There has been a Korean bar on 3rd Road for some time. The customers want light skinned ladies with East Asian features, and pay top dollar.

I lost one very promising lady to a Korean boyfriend customer.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2835208]Can you explain more as to what you meant that the Koreans did in Angeles?

And if it was making it pricier, why would the Thais not like that as it would mean more income.

Already in Bangkok Korea Town mall and Thermae across the road in Sukhumvit are heavily geared to Korean prices.[/QUOTE]There was a sudden influx of Korean bar owners who pushed their western counterparts out by offering landlords higher rent and at least a year's payment upfront. Of course the Filipino landlords couldn't resist and some even terminated the leases they had at the time just to cater to the Koreans. In time, barfines went up and girls (especially those in Korean run bars) became more choosy as to who they would go with. Girls who were known to go with non-Koreans would be blacklisted on the K-versions of ISG. K-run bars would pretty much be emptied out at opening time, either by groups k-mongering groups who turn up, or by k-customers who make advanced bookings through media we westerners aren't privy to, with very few to no girls remaining for the night they would either close for the night or try to stay open for drinks. In the short term it was great money for the girls, mamasans and landlords, but medium to long term people (non-Koreans) are voting with their feet and wallets and are venturing out to other places. As I said before, even the K-forums are now complaining that AC is shit and no longer value for money, no shit Sherlocks, who would've thought paying double the going rate and telling girls not to go with other demographics would work out well.

Walking street in angeles and the surrounding perimeter is now a shell of its former self and bars are slowly being replaced by coin arcades, KTVs, k-cafes and restaurants and whatever other business a K-entrepreneur wants to try their hand at.

I could go on and on but you get the jist. K-dudes just don't like to share when it comes to our hobby, and will look to carve out the biggest and best piece for themselves wherever they go, leaving crumbs for everyone else.

By the way TGT, thank you for your your informative posts in the Phuket forum. I'll be there in 2 weeks and will be looking to visit your shop.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;2835329]Just got back from LOS.

A I personally find ThaiFriendly to be excellent hunting grounds. But, I'm not looking for an 18-25 yo girl. I want a 30-40 yo girl who knows what she's doing, knows she has to earn her keep, has decent English skills, and is willing to spoil me outrageously 25/7. Careful pre-trip screening and communication are key. If they aren't willing to invest some time before you even arrive, they aren't the right gal.
Private villa with pool? $75/ day for my half (travelled with a wingman).

Result. The most enjoyable and relaxing holiday I have ever had.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you hit the "sweet spot" in more ways than one. I'll admit the one of the benefits of having a fair bit of "life experience" is that I have discovered my personal sweet spot for companions is about 28-35 ish. The can still look well put together and are very appreciative to have someone treat them well. They also know for the most part what it means to be a lady when a gentleman shows his interest. I am not adverse to make up and when they know what they are doing it can be remarkable, plus for the most part when they are face down in the pillow the view is pretty consistent in my experience. The other part is I find is easier to make conversation with someone who has lived past 25, again with a few few exceptions. I don't deny that seeing a 21 yr old hard body with a face to match still moves the needle, but I have found the maintenance to be more than I am willing to deal with. I made my first trip to Pattaya a couple of weeks ago and will return in a month. TF was a good resource, but I was surprised at the number of ladies that were only interested in ST deals. I did find one gal at a GClub that is worth a chat about a holiday trip, but that won't be free, but I suspect it will be worth the investment.

I do have a question, can you tell me which agency you used to book your villa and approximate location? Thanks for the report, enjoy the memories, until you can create some more.

Sky.

[QUOTE=NemanLion;2835396]Just finished off a great 7 days in pattaya and 2 in Bangkok. LAst trip was a year ago.

Been following the forum. And other than explorers "she sucked my balls and we drank" posts (I'm still not as literary skilled as he is) , was expecting a low in pattaya. IT STILL ROCKS.

Between soi 6 , beach road and walking street = enough latent to have a diff girl every night. (some repeated).

Beach roads. Good variety. Short fat thin tall lady ladyboy. Summin for everyone. Loved the density. Compared to BKK around thermae. ID say 1: 10 ratio in choice.

TF: good variety and selection again. But quoting higher prices but settling for less.

Prices on average paid 1000 bht for ST. About 2 paid 1500. But asking was as high as 3000 to start.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the actual report and insight as to how things are in Pattaya, much appreciated.

Most of the commentary on this thread has been fluff. Who gives a shit about Korean customers and the girl's Thai BF's and all this nonsense.

I'll be in Pattaya in less than two months and I think my trip and experience will be very similar to yours.

I also have a week long stay at a nice hotel utilizing points which will essentially make my daily ST session free. At least that's how I'm looking at it.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2835449]Inflation adjusted Soi 6 as a whole have gone down.

Old ugly fat girls don't have pricing power.

Chill people. How many times do you see Asians taking 2's and 3's.

Hint. None.[/QUOTE]The soi is already filled with few pretties but when K-streamers spot them they put them out of business quickly.

Latest victim is this new girl in 3 Angels (seventh girl from the left with red dress).

The manager called him over, told him he got two new pretties early twenties, this one plus the eleventh from the right side.

K-streamer called her over and flooded her with drinks and racks of 5 tequilas.

She looks very good, face is nice (but wears braces), body looks excellent (but short, 154 cm).

Why would they even go upstairs with anyone when they are flooded with drinks just for dancing and sitting in front of a camera?

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2835552]Sounds like you hit the "sweet spot" in more ways than one. I'll admit the one of the benefits of having a fair bit of "life experience" is that I have discovered my personal sweet spot for companions is about 28-35 ish. [/QUOTE]We all have our personal sweet spots. For me, it under 30 for ST but over 40 for vacation girlfriend (1 to 5 weeks). I seldom do LT, though I did about 7 of them in March.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2835552]TF was a good resource, but I was surprised at the number of ladies that were only interested in ST deals.[/QUOTE]That really fucks me up too, but it actually seems the whole mongering world is moving toward that.

I had a 35 yr old lady come over tonight, but she was drunk and hungover, so I sent her home.

A year ago, she was a major hottie, but now is getting heavier. Her ass is losing its form, and her arms and legs are getting thicker. Accordingly she is not getting as many customers as before.

And gets drunk every night. Her Thai boyfriend ran off with another lady (who has more money), and her English husband has gone home.

So, yeah, I might cross her off my list.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2835552]I do have a question, can you tell me which agency you used to book your villa and approximate location? Thanks for the report, enjoy the memories, until you can create some more.

Sky.[/QUOTE]AirBnB.

Lots of villas in Jomtien stretching from north Pattaya to Sattahip. This year we we down closer toward Sattahip.

Thoughts on the above? Have an upcoming 10 day trip to Thailand. Have to do 4 nights in BKK for business (and pleasure! 6 nights in or around Pattaya (which I've been to many times). Never spend any real time in Jomtien. Worth it or not? One night? Two? Best place for mongering in Jomtien? Would appreciate any guidance. I'm pretty familiar with Pattaya, know most of the Agogos and Gents clubs well, but really no idea about Jomtien and would be grateful for some thoughts on whether its worth going, and in particular, should I bother to stay in a hotel there or just get a cab from central Pattaya and back?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2835646]T Jomtien. Worth it or not? ?[/QUOTE]If you are a Soy6 and Beach Road and high energy club monger l- I would say Pass. Jomtien is laid back, and quiet with more older crowd and not much in your face exhibition. If you have a nice lady and want to take her "out" maybe Jomtien is nice. But I always find myself back in Pattaya. Pass on Jomtien. That's my two cents.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2835570]The soi is already filled with few pretties but when K-streamers spot them they put them out of business quickly.

Latest victim is this new girl in 3 Angels (seventh girl from the left with red dress).

The manager called him over, told him he got two new pretties early twenties, this one plus the eleventh from the right side.

K-streamer called her over and flooded her with drinks and racks of 5 tequilas.

She looks very good, face is nice (but wears braces), body looks excellent (but short, 154 cm).

Why would they even go upstairs with anyone when they are flooded with drinks just for dancing and sitting in front of a camera?[/QUOTE]Sorry for you LOSS.

Bad Boys Bad Boys what Cha Going to do when the Koreans come for you. Hahaha.

5 drinks is $10 commission to girl. 2,000 barfine is 2,000. $60 is more than $10. Connect the dots.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2835563]Thank you for the actual report and insight as to how things are in Pattaya, much appreciated.

Most of the commentary on this thread has been fluff. Who gives a shit about Korean customers and the girl's Thai BF's and all this nonsense.

I'll be in Pattaya in less than two months and I think my trip and experience will be very similar to yours.

I also have a week long stay at a nice hotel utilizing points which will essentially make my daily ST session free. At least that's how I'm looking at it.[/QUOTE]1,000 baht guys. Pattaya is your Oyster. Nothing's changed in that sense.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2835563]Thank you for the actual report and insight as to how things are in Pattaya, much appreciated.

Most of the commentary on this thread has been fluff. Who gives a shit about Korean customers and the girl's Thai BF's and all this nonsense.

I'll be in Pattaya in less than two months and I think my trip and experience will be very similar to yours.

I also have a week long stay at a nice hotel utilizing points which will essentially make my daily ST session free. At least that's how I'm looking at it.[/QUOTE]If the current trend continues, the Koreans could make Pattaya worthless for you. I am seeing signs that the process is having an effect. There is one bar on Sai Sam where Farangs are not welcome.

Also, the Koreans are moving beyond Walking Street and Soi 6 to Soi Chaiyapoon.

As for Thai boyfriends, the significance is for those losers who fall in love with a bargirl, hand her huge amounts of cash, and then wonder why she doesn't love him. Don't be one of those guys.

My new squirter lady sends me a "good morning " message every day at 07.00. Because she has to wake up at 5 am to take her boyfriend to work.

I can see atleast a dozen girl who I can barfine and bang for ST and half a dozen for LT, nice lineup.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2835570]The soi is already filled with few pretties but when K-streamers spot them they put them out of business quickly.

Latest victim is this new girl in 3 Angels (seventh girl from the left with red dress).

The manager called him over, told him he got two new pretties early twenties, this one plus the eleventh from the right side.

K-streamer called her over and flooded her with drinks and racks of 5 tequilas.

She looks very good, face is nice (but wears braces), body looks excellent (but short, 154 cm).

Why would they even go upstairs with anyone when they are flooded with drinks just for dancing and sitting in front of a camera?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2835646]Best place for mongering in Jomtien? [/QUOTE]Not sure why you are considering staying in Jomtien and looking for "action" places. It's not like Jomtien is miles away. It's not even a 10 minute baht bus ride from Walking Street. If you're lucky you may find a gem in some massage shops but that's a lot of walking for a pipe dream. I believe Rompho is either closed or on its last legs. Only real place to hobby at the G Clubs with Passion, Kit Cat, Seahorse, and Kinnaree nearby. I'm sure I missed a couple and there's a new one called Pussy Galore (wasn't there a Pussy Galore with very nice girls on Soi 6 before?) or something like that but it's quite a ways away.

Now if you want to relax, take strolls along the beach, eat at some decent outdoor restaurants then Jomtien is a nice place to hang out for a day. Then take the baht bus to Walking Street at 8 pm.

[QUOTE=Chan Chalupa;2835454]Broke You Tuber Cris Travel s coming to Pattaya maybe for a few days.

Don't engage nothing but Trouble. ,. Hahaha.

Stocky short ish South American fellow.

I warned you.[/QUOTE]

Does he go to the bars and gogos? Have you actually seen him in one?

She has a baby but I was wondering if anyone has taken her upstairs or if she is only hostess?

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2835760]She has a baby but I was wondering if anyone has taken her upstairs or if she is only hostess?[/QUOTE]She's been working there for years, I would be in shock if she says she doesn't go upstairs.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2835760]She has a baby but I was wondering if anyone has taken her upstairs or if she is only hostess?[/QUOTE]If she is a baby mama, then she will go upstairs.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2835760]She has a baby but I was wondering if anyone has taken her upstairs or if she is only hostess?[/QUOTE]Looks like a Soi 6 bar, so not a hostess. Even if she is a hostess, she will go upstairs.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2835661]5 drinks is $10 commission to girl. 2,000 barfine is 2,000. $60 is more than $10. Connect the dots.[/QUOTE]Not just ten dollars commission.

She can fulfill her drinks quota and secure her 15 K baht salary easily plus the tips she gets, because they give 1 K tips for nothing too.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2835760]She has a baby but I was wondering if anyone has taken her upstairs or if she is only hostess?[/QUOTE]Did she used to work previous Barnum and Bailey, Thai edition. No offense.

Seriously though I can't see clear. Must be Hot in Person.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2835671]If the current trend continues, the Koreans could make Pattaya worthless for you. I am seeing signs that the process is having an effect. There is one bar on Sai Sam where Farangs are not welcome.

Also, the Koreans are moving beyond Walking Street and Soi 6 to Soi Chaiyapoon.

As for Thai boyfriends, the significance is for those losers who fall in love with a bargirl, hand her huge amounts of cash, and then wonder why she doesn't love him. Don't be one of those guys.

My new squirter lady sends me a "good morning " message every day at 07.00. Because she has to wake up at 5 am to take her boyfriend to work.[/QUOTE]I could never fall in love with a girl let alone a bargirl. It amazes me when I hear stories about guys falling in love with bargirls. All the time I've spent in Thailand, I've repeated with a girl maybe 2-3 times total. With all the variety I just haven't seen the point in repeating. I have also never even done LT.

Having said all that, I hope to force myself to LT and repeat and maybe even travel with a girl, just as a change of pace since I've never tried it. We'll see.

Former Sexy in the City girls. Back during COVID lockdown, I got to sample all 3 for 1000 each. My favorites were Janny and Pamareen (Pam). I think I passed one of them on to XXL as well. Forgot which. They were all hurting for cash during those two years. Now the girls are out doing bigger and better things including covertly filming mongers. The game has evolved and so has the better looking Soi 6 girls. Give a Thai girl just a 1000 baht, she will eat today. Teach her the online hustle and she will say fuck you and your 1000 baht, and eat forever. Really should check out Janny's channel.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME1102Xh66s&t=165s[/URL]

[QUOTE=BogieMaker;2833938]I read on redit that the Devils Den is reopening in the next month. Supposed to be the same format from what I understand. There was no indication on the location. Not a massage place but had an A+ lineup.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Pattaya/comments/14pxbtk/devils_den_is_returning/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's great news! Although I'm one month early with my Pattaya trip. Devil's Den used to be one of my favorites.

Hey mongers, I'll be in pattaya for 4 days (22-26 July) for bachelors party. Staying at the Royal Cliff with friends separate rooms for each. Any recommendations, most appreciated. Happy to entertain high end / beautiful girls only not cheap ones. 1 girlfriend a day with no repeats. Any recco, budget is 5000-8000 / day. Let the fun begin.

[QUOTE=NemanLion;2835396]
Stayed at the LK Empress. Fits the bill. Very convenient location. Bad advertising on the balcony which is just a 2 ft cubicle with 1 chair and an ac extractor that blows such hot air, you can't stand a minute there!! Otherwise good breakfast, no issues with girls coming (except one who was refused as she was 19 and apparently under 20's not allowed) - anyone know this rule??
[/QUOTE]Yes, some hotels do not allow under 20's. The only other one I know is the Dynasty Grande in Bangkok.
But there are more hotels with this rule, but not that many as far as I know.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2835972]Yes, some hotels do not allow under 20's. The only other one I know is the Dynasty Grande in Bangkok.
But there are more hotels with this rule, but not that many as far as I know.[/QUOTE]My last stay at LK the Empress was 6 years ago. I had no problems bringing in a 19 year old and a 20 year old at the same time. Gave IDs at front desk, very normal procedure without problem. Perhaps things have changed.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2834876]Their primary platform is some Korea-based platform which is monetized through platform money called "balloons" or "coins". During the livestream, their Korean viewers send them "balloons" or "coins" and these guys keep most of the money for themselves and use some of it to buy drinks for the bargirls.[/QUOTE]Thanks much to Mr. Bam for edumacating me on how that guy makes money when there are zero ads on his YouTube content. From time to time he does feature some girls who to my eye seem to be rather more attractive than the typical inked-up chubettes found on the Six. I suspect he compensates them well by purchasing multiple lady drinks, and perhaps with a few extra baht here and there. I also suspect that some of the girls he showcases are "drinks only."

As I've written before, the girls are endlessly creative when it comes to finding ways to make money without actually putting out. Assisting this loser in fleecing Korean incels has to be less work than gobbling falang dick. Mr. Paolo has some good thoughts on this development here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2835570&viewfull=1#post2835570

Bunky

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2835671]If the current trend continues, the Koreans could make Pattaya worthless for you. I am seeing signs that the process is having an effect. There is one bar on Sai Sam where Farangs are not welcome.

Also, the Koreans are moving beyond Walking Street and Soi 6 to Soi Chaiyapoon.[/QUOTE]According to what I hear is that you are welcome to "korean places" in Philipines. What is this talk about closing the gates for farangs? What kind of bar is this.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2835449]Inflation adjusted Soi 6 as a whole have gone down.

Old ugly fat girls don't have pricing power.

Chill people. How many times do you see Asians taking 2's and 3's.

Hint. None.[/QUOTE]Are you saying prices are droping on soi 6 or some girls have restrained thier asking prices?

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2836030]My last stay at LK the Empress was 6 years ago. I had no problems bringing in a 19 year old and a 20 year old at the same time. Gave IDs at front desk, very normal procedure without problem. Perhaps things have changed.[/QUOTE]When I was there last year, all of the LK properties were 20 years and older. So was the Areca Lodge. At my age 20 is quite young enough.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2835968]Hey mongers, I'll be in pattaya for 4 days (22-26 July) for bachelors party. Staying at the Royal Cliff with friends separate rooms for each. Any recommendations, most appreciated. Happy to entertain high end / beautiful girls only not cheap ones. 1 girlfriend a day with no repeats. Any recco, budget is 5000-8000 / day. Let the fun begin.[/QUOTE]Stayed at Royal cliff on 2022 visit. Very nice place, very girl friendly - 1 week and many girls, not a single one had to engage front desk.

Overall great place, but didn't stay there this time as I felt it was a little out of town. Had met a few chicks in town and even when you tell them Royal cliff, they want more for the return taxi!

[QUOTE=BogieMaker;2833938]I read on redit that the Devils Den is reopening in the next month. Supposed to be the same format from what I understand. There was no indication on the location. Not a massage place but had an A+ lineup.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/Pattaya/comments/14pxbtk/devils_den_is_returning/[/URL][/QUOTE]The article said, "they had bang bus that picked you up from the airport" -- any info would be appreciated. I am coming in September and would love to enjoy the taxi trip after I've had many hours on the plane to start my vacation right.

__Y.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2836103]According to what I hear is that you are welcome to "korean places" in Philipines. What is this talk about closing the gates for farangs? What kind of bar is this.

Are you saying prices are droping on soi 6 or some girls have restrained thier asking prices?[/QUOTE]Adjustable for inflation definitely dropping.

1999 ugly girl cost 1 k. 2023 ugly girl still cost 1 k.

Ok. I wasn't Barfining in 1999. But you know what I'm saying.

[QUOTE=YuriB;2836145]The article said, "they had bang bus that picked you up from the airport" -- any info would be appreciated. I am coming in September and would love to enjoy the taxi trip after I've had many hours on the plane to start my vacation right.

__Y.[/QUOTE]I can't remember the exact cost but I remember it being expensive. Personally after a long journey I'd at least want a shower first before any action.

[QUOTE=YuriB;2836145]The article said, "they had bang bus that picked you up from the airport" -- any info would be appreciated. I am coming in September and would love to enjoy the taxi trip after I've had many hours on the plane to start my vacation right.

__Y.[/QUOTE]It would be best to contact DD directly. My expectation is that it will not be available for quite some time if ever again. First they have to find a new location and then restaff it which I expect is in progress.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2836103]According to what I hear is that you are welcome to "korean places" in Philipines. What is this talk about closing the gates for farangs? What kind of bar is this.

Are you saying prices are droping on soi 6 or some girls have restrained thier asking prices?[/QUOTE]Boots on the ground are saying more and more that 1 k for ST is becoming the norm again. Too many ladies and not enough customers.

I haven't been there since Oct so I personally can't speak to this. But judging by YT vids there doesn't seem to many customers around.

[QUOTE=YuriB;2836145]The article said, "they had bang bus that picked you up from the airport" -- any info would be appreciated. I am coming in September and would love to enjoy the taxi trip after I've had many hours on the plane to start my vacation right.

__Y.[/QUOTE]Even after a 24 hour flight itinerary from the USA, a 1. 5 hour taxi to Pattaya is a piece of cake. The last thing I want to be on is a booze fueled van driving 80 mph during the rainy season (September).

Mate got back from Pattaya. Said he paid 10,000 for a Russian girl. I think that was just the girl fee not BF or drinks.

I've heard of 8 k max but surely he was ripped off.

[QUOTE=NemanLion;2835396]
Stayed at the LK Empress. Fits the bill. Very convenient location. Bad advertising on the balcony which is just a 2 ft cubicle with 1 chair and an ac extractor that blows such hot air, you can't stand a minute there!! Otherwise good breakfast, no issues with girls coming (except one who was refused as she was 19 and apparently under 20's not allowed) - anyone know this rule??

.[/QUOTE]Stayed at LK about two weeks ago. My balcony didn't matter since it faced Soi 12 and the hotel across the street. I never stopped at the front desk when I brought a lady with me. The only time they interacted with a lady was when I had an outcall visit. To be fair, none of the ladies I was with looked 20 either. I will stay again, but ask for a different view, I was kind of hoping to doggy one of the ladies as she hung onto the balcony railing. Got to have a goal!

Sky.

Quick Hits.

Monday. Tantra next to Palace got some decent looking Class be Talent.

Korean You Tuber is no chump. He organizes girls, telling them where to stand for his photoshoot s. 1,000 bahters in back Please. I saw it in two separate Soi 6 places on Monday.

In return he rings the Bell. Maybe $175 a bell ring. Bars have like 20 nor more girls.

Walked up and down Soi 6 3 tinmez. Nothing, zip, you know the drill.

Xxqc next to XS closed again.

Ago go 79. Walk Street.

Well worth $3.00.

One of the best faces I've seen in a while. Full back tattoo, not a fan.

Kind of Small. Hahahaha. 49 pounds? Breast kind o small too.

Everything is Small.

But that face is Superior. She a freak of nature.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2836284]Even after a 24 hour flight itinerary from the USA, a 1. 5 hour taxi to Pattaya is a piece of cake. The last thing I want to be on is a booze fueled van driving 80 mph during the rainy season (September).[/QUOTE]"Piece of Cake"? Really? This concept seems like the equivalent of the overpriced photo they have printed out for you after you get off the logjam water ride at 6 flags. A tourist gimmick geared towards aw shucks yokels and cash flush newbies looking to flush baht from time stamp zero. Last thing I want to do after a 26 hour ride is have some random 5.5 play with my sleep deprived worm for probably 3000 baht followed by 1.2 hours of awkward silence until we finally get to P. Chill the duck out and at least drop your bags and take a shower. You'll have plenty of time to blow those baht on more enjoyable if less "made a great story" experiences. Only exception here is if you are coming from somewhere reasonably close. Otherwise ctfo.

First night was Walking Street, I notice lots of tour guides with groups and tons of girls but not many John's. I did not find any to my liking and just too much going on. The second night was soi 6 and the same thing with tons of girls and few guys but no tour groups. I did approach one who wanted 2500 baht and another who wanted 1500 but I felt she was the prettiest but no one approached her because maybe she was a ladyboy. I passed on all but did enjoy cheap massages and a boat ride to ko lan.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2836312]Korean You Tuber is no chump. He organizes girls, telling them where to stand for his photoshoot s. 1,000 bahters in back Please. I saw it in two separate Soi 6 places on Monday.

In return he rings the Bell. Maybe $175 a bell ring. Bars have like 20 nor more girls.

Walked up and down Soi 6 3 tinmez. Nothing, zip, you know the drill.[/QUOTE]They easily blow over 1 K dollars per night with drinks and tips (they tip everybody, maid, cashier, girls, mamasan, manager). It's a good promotion for all Korean guys, no doubt the girls will favor Korean customers over every body else in the future, at least in the bars these guys are spending in.

K-streamer almost got a fight with a dumbass Farang in front of Kawai tonight, he was very funny to watch.

[QUOTE=SkyRyder;2836293]Stayed at LK about two weeks ago. My balcony didn't matter since it faced Soi 12 and the hotel across the street. I never stopped at the front desk when I brought a lady with me. The only time they interacted with a lady was when I had an outcall visit. To be fair, none of the ladies I was with looked 20 either. I will stay again, but ask for a different view, I was kind of hoping to doggy one of the ladies as she hung onto the balcony railing. Got to have a goal!

Sky.[/QUOTE]The "pool view", rooms are worth the extra baht and if you really want to impress, go for the "sea view" rooms.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2836286]Mate got back from Pattaya. Said he paid 10,000 for a Russian girl. I think that was just the girl fee not BF or drinks.

I've heard of 8 k max but surely he was ripped off.[/QUOTE]I'm not as Cynical.

Benefit if the doubt time.

What if he got Miss Russia 2013.

999 girls on Soi 6 worth 1 k. 1 is worth 3 k. Stats might be a bit off. Sorry. Recency Bias.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2836286]Mate got back from Pattaya. Said he paid 10,000 for a Russian girl. I think that was just the girl fee not BF or drinks.

I've heard of 8 k max but surely he was ripped off.[/QUOTE]10 K baht for anyone is a ripoff in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2836326]Ago go 79. Walk Street.

Well worth $3.00.

One of the best faces I've seen in a while. Full back tattoo, not a fan.

Kind of Small. Hahahaha. 49 pounds? Breast kind o small too.

Everything is Small.

But that face is Superior. She a freak of nature.[/QUOTE]The girl was $3.00 and weighed 49 pounds?

[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2836329]"...Last thing I want to do after a 26 hour ride is have some random 5.5 play with my sleep deprived worm for probably 3000 baht followed by 1.2 hours of awkward silence until we finally get to P. ....[/QUOTE]I agree: I do not want an awkward silence either, and neither do I expect to perform before a decent shower. What I would like is something as I reported last time:

[QUOTE=YuriB;2275948]Yuri-Lima-2019 Part 2.[/QUOTE]A Senior BM recommended a 25 yo model-like with a decent English who made the taxi trip like heaven, and I felt loved and taken care of during the trip, the shower, the overnight sleep, which included everything I wanted and dreamed and a breakfast (my treat). And, yes, it cost me twice more than the last night, I hired her again in the last night of the trip for twice less, as it was only 6 hours, not 18. So if a BM provides a recommendation, I can take a risk. And so can the BM as we all have a reputation to keep. PM me if you have anyone in mind. I treat people well and they usually reciprocate. Thank you!

__Y.

Can anyone identify this club? Is this two different places? All the girls wear these tank tops with name tags and the other place with the leather sofas have girls in gowns with illuminated name tags, but it also looks like the same location.

[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2836103]According to what I hear is that you are welcome to "korean places" in Philipines. What is this talk about closing the gates for farangs? What kind of bar is this.

Are you saying prices are droping on soi 6 or some girls have restrained thier asking prices?[/QUOTE]When business isn't going well, you're welcome in Korean places. Of course you'll only be offered the leftovers and women the Korean men don't want.

When business is good, Korean bars will be more selective with who they service. They'll still let you in and allow you to buy drinks, but you'll largely be ignored by everyone till you get the point and leave.

Right now business is bad because as I said in an earlier post, Korean men are complaining that angeles is no longer the fun place with cheap, hot pootang it used to be. What they fail to realise is that it's all thanks to them and their mongering practices.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2836152]I can't remember the exact cost but I remember it being expensive. Personally after a long journey I'd at least want a shower first before any action.[/QUOTE]If you go to website the price is listed at 14,500 if you want to choose the two girls that will be with you and 12 K if you let them choose.

Baitoey.

Looks check out. Not sure if she wears a bit too much make -up. Not appropriate to stare. She was barfined.

Asked if I could short time her. She said Yes and quoted a reasonable Price.

Not speak a lick of English. Needed help from a roly poly co worker.

She kind of small. Not midget small but small. Not surprising her Chimichangas look smallish too.

Will I try. Yes. Problem is it looks like she always busy.

Also.

There was a girl sitting on a pick_up truck. Quite attractive but Small. What turn me off was she look like maybe just at legal age so I passed.

She quoted 1,500 plus 500 room.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2836581]Also.

There was a girl sitting on a pick_up truck. Quite attractive but Small. What turn me off was she look like maybe just at legal age so I passed.

She quoted 1,500 plus 500 room.[/QUOTE]Baitoey is 18 too.

Are there hourly room hotels around LK Metro?

[QUOTE=Davey1965;2836530]If you go to the website the price is listed at 14,500 if you want to choose the two girls that will be with you and 12 K if you let them choose.[/QUOTE]It has been a long time, but I use to have a friend back home who passed away a few years before Covid, that used the place Exclusively for the few weeks he was here. Through him is how I once met the owner and tried a number of girls.

As for the Van, it is nothing really special just a modified Van more of added attraction to the establishment. I remember the guy telling me since he spent a lot with the. The. A VIP basically picked him up once pretty much a limo-type service with girls of your choice. What sticks was the price 10,000 plus?

It was kind of an offshoot of Eden in Bangkok, as I remember something happened the guy died or something but the name changed to the. The. I tried Eden once the experience was good but too much work for me to keep up. You walk in there was a line up with a yellow or red line down the middle one side line those girls did anal the suggested routine was to pick one that did anal if that was your thing have the other girl pick another from the other side that she might work well together.

Don't quote me but each girl was 2500-3000 baht, you could also book a girl from 10 pm to 6 pm in the morning. In the beginning, they really had a nice lineup through the recommendation of my friend I met a number of the girls and took a liking to one and booked her a number of times for the evening before she retired. They have trained exceptionally well no games like Escorts how to behave and socialize and handle themselves at least the one I had the website lists the things they specialize in, anal, S&M, peeing, and fisting.

I remember the I took the first time I noticed she was a bit hungry so took her to a local Thai place that was well known for food, drink, and Thai entertainment on 3rd Road, she had a blast bit drunk when back at my place she opened up a tool kit and ask what I like I basically decline but they are trained to take care of you then the price was 10-6 am, 3800 baht. The girls were loyal to the place trying to meet them on the side was impossible.

As time went by many of the original girls who made the place popular left, and the place started to go downhill even before Covid.

Ndtvi.

I troll him about his Empty Bars like so many others.

But his Hotel is fine.

Went to Kink tonight second floor not too busy.

The mamasan brought me a pretty naked girl with huge natural gonzagas.

But I told mamasan I leave in five minutes.

30 minutes later, I'm in Bronx Pizza enjoying a slice.

Who walks in with her new beau of the night? The pretty naked Kink girl with the huge natural gonzagas.

She and I stare at each other for five seconds.

Must be love at first sight.

Actually, it's love at second sight.

But who's counting? LOL.

Water Bottles.

79 Agogo has bottle s with their name on it.

Anyone go to 79 Agogo? Small girls. Nice face and some nice bodies.

Medium girls same same.

Didn't see any Cows. No 49 year old with teenagers. No offense.

Got to hand it to Human Relations. Thumbs up.

Thailand before tigers crisis 1997 not cheap.

For Europe supereuro 2008-9 49 bath for a euro was a top.

Same years saw the decline of English sterling.

Soon followed by the decline of English in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2836804]Water Bottles.

79 Agogo has bottle s with their name on it.

Anyone go to 79 Agogo? Small girls. Nice face and some nice bodies.

Medium girls same same.

Didn't see any Cows. No 49 year old with teenagers. No offense.

Got to hand it to Human Relations. Thumbs up.[/QUOTE]I venture into 79 two weeks ago, I was lucky to get there when the Model was on stage Models are the ones who take their tops down. The problem with the place it is long and narrow similar in design to Skyfall as I remember along with a number of places on the waterfront side. There are 3 stages so the best viewing is sitting in front of the middle stage it was a nice change to see some tops down at GoGo's and as noted there are a number of small-frame girls (4'11-5'0 with small tits not complaining. I remember one that caught my eye I think her number is #341 small or petite, with small tits, a nice round firm butt and go pair of legs.

Spoke to Mamasan and confirm to me Barfine was 2500, as usual, I say nothing agree or disagree.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2836603]Baitoey is 18 too.[/QUOTE]Have you seen her Naked. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2836726]Ndtvi.

I troll him about his Empty Bars like so many others.

But his Hotel is fine.[/QUOTE]The guy doesn't care that his bars are empty.

He's not in the bar business in order to sell lady drinks and barfines.

He's only interested in selling his bars for a huge profit later on.

The Quest.

For acceptable Barfines on Soi 6. It might help if one actually sits in a Bar. It's really hard to gauge a Girl by just walking by.

I got one very acceptable compared to Baitoey. Same 1,500 plus400 baht.

Lessor quality Face but better body. LOL.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2837000]The guy doesn't care that his bars are empty.

He's not in the bar business in order to sell lady drinks and barfines.

He's only interested in selling his bars for a huge profit later on.[/QUOTE]But that's the businessmodel of EVERY bar in Pattaya? Whats kinda crazy because its just a lease / inventory that's being sold. Staff / revenue / buildings are never included. This Is Thailand.

I'm currently in Bangkok and I'm going to Pattaya in 2 days. I've already started to match with several girls on Tinder, what are the prices on Walking Street in normal bars? What price can I expect for 1 evening if I pay for myself and the girl who accompanies me? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2837129]But that's the businessmodel of EVERY bar in Pattaya? Whats kinda crazy because its just a lease / inventory that's being sold. Staff / revenue / buildings are never included. This Is Thailand.[/QUOTE]And nobody asks themselves if the business is doing good, then why is the person selling? Or are they thinking they can do it better?

Talking to a chick yesterday that just sold her nail salon and went to Bahrain the other day. She was paying 5000 to rent the place and 2300 for electric and water. Like you said no building or anything is ever including. But she was able to push a couple of chairs and a few bottles of nail polish off on some fool for 60,000 baht. I guess people have hopes and dreams and you can usually thank foreign boyfriends for making it all happen.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2836993]Have you seen her Naked. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]No, that's what she said in the video.

Body doesn't look Good? How was she in the sack if you took her?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2836524]When business isn't going well, you're welcome in Korean places. Of course you'll only be offered the leftovers and women the Korean men don't want.

When business is good, Korean bars will be more selective with who they service. They'll still let you in and allow you to buy drinks, but you'll largely be ignored by everyone till you get the point and leave.

Right now business is bad because as I said in an earlier post, Korean men are complaining that angeles is no longer the fun place with cheap, hot pootang it used to be. What they fail to realise is that it's all thanks to them and their mongering practices.[/QUOTE]Koreans and thier spending habits is a plague for this buisness.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2837090]The Quest.

For acceptable Barfines on Soi 6. It might help if one actually sits in a Bar. It's really hard to gauge a Girl by just walking by.

I got one very acceptable compared to Baitoey. Same 1,500 plus400 baht.

Lessor quality Face but better body. LOL.[/QUOTE]Do the girls on soi 6 don't accept 1000 baht anymore? Or do you don't dare to ask them? I hear that in many cases it is working with 1000-1200.

4 day short trip to pattaya.

Booked nam taxi from bkk to pattaya for 1 k baht.

2. 1 k baht per day LK empress.

Day. 1 little tired, so didn't even looked at the walking street. Joined two bkk girls drinking beer at the beach at 3 am (they asked me to Join, so please after reading this don't disturb the people sitting at the beach). Little chit chat couldn't score went to sleep. (Not freelance, girs).

Day2 got a freelance from tinder for 1. 2 k in the evening. And at night went to kamma club with the bkk chicks. Went back with 1 and best night spent.

Day3. Went to Russian strip club, at around 8, 400 cover charge. Around 1 k inside tips + beer. Good 1-2 hours.

Went to another gogo bar, a girl was drooling over me. She joined my table as soon as I sat on it. Sadly her english sucks. Had fun for another 2-3 hours. Spent around 3 k baht lady drinks etc.

Went back to kama, Sheeha with beer with thai nurse. Got her to my hotel around 3. Another night went pretty good. Got line ID of another girl at the club.

Day4. Got some beers and relaxed on the beach with the girl who shared her line ID last night. Good 2-3 hours. Went to another club. Since it was the last day, only visited 1 club and somehow. MAnaged to get the girl back to my hotel. .

During the day, everyday, just relaxed on the beach, took a 100 baht chair and cold beer.

Will be back again for more.

Tip for Indians, go for kama club, Good Sheeha pocket friendly. Janna t is way more expensive, crowd is very bad, talking about the other Indians there (little embarrassed t).

For Delhi peeps reading this.

Kama Sheeha 750 double commissioner.

Janna 930 starts apple mint (basic).

Pro tip, If you have good body muscles, just hit the gym before going to the clubs and get that pump in your body,Thai girls love big muscles.

Cheers
Sheikh

I took 2 bargirls on a short trip abroad. I will omit the tourism details, and focus on the relevant part: the sex. I paid my usual 2000 baht per day. In return, the ladies provided sex while we were in the hotel room, mostly BBBJs during the day, and 3 somes at night.

Last night, we drank after 9 pm, after a couple of hours, the ladies got naked, and then cleaned me in the shower. Then, it was onto bed, they double teamed me, with one fucking my face, and the other climbing onto my dick.

The only downside was one lady who had to report to her sponsor twice a day to tell him that she was in Pattaya, not going with customers.

Last night, while one of my 2 ladies was taking a shower, the other paused from drinking, dropped her bathrobe, climbed up on my chair and face fucked me.

It is very rare for a Thai lady to pro-actively engage in pussy licking, most just passively accept it. So, if the man doesn't offer, the lady doesn't get her pussy licked. And most are afraid to ask, fearing getting beaten if they do.

I'm a Believer.

Had a session with a Girl I met earlier in the week. Soi 6. 1,500 very acceptable as far as body and Face. 1,500 baht plus 400 room.

I keep thinking to myself this can't be right. Why so economical for young and Hot.

She volunteered she has a 2 year old Son. She is 24. This is the 2nd one that I would not have guessed they had a Baby.

No marks of Stretch or nothing.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2837169]No, that's what she said in the video.

Body doesn't look Good? How was she in the sack if you took her?[/QUOTE]8 seconds.

Just strolling thru. No intention of any barfing as I had one the night before.

As I get to Playpen Baitoey is standing outside. Boom a guy takes her in for a Drink.

As an exception I would have Barfined her right there.

She is quite Popular. Some girls are like that. Maybe even less than some.

Will try again in August if some Korean hasn't locked her up in his Dungeon by then.

I tried my best.

Agogo 79. Very friendly grill. I informed her that in Bangkok barfine is 1,000 baht. I figured she would say I'll bring it up with management. Hahaha. OK maybe not.

She say this Pattaya not Bangkok. I left it at that.

P.S. 2,500 barfine is confirmed there.

[QUOTE=Sheikh69;2837210]Day3. Went to Russian strip club, at around 8, 400 cover charge. Around 1 k inside tips + beer. Good 1-2 hours.[/QUOTE]Am I reading this right? 8400 baht cover charge to Russian bar? What's included in that?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2837633]Am I reading this right? 8400 baht cover charge to Russian bar? What's included in that?[/QUOTE]Which bar? Galaxy on walking street?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2837633]Am I reading this right? 8400 baht cover charge to Russian bar? What's included in that?[/QUOTE]I read that he went there at 8 PM and paid 400 baht cover.

Was 400 baht

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2837646]I read that he went there at 8 PM and paid 400 baht cover.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2833737]This guy is doing a great job of covering the soi daily, he walks the soi up and down multiple times a day.

He interracts with the girls, and they all like him. Strangely the girls that usually cover their faces in other videos have no problem to show their faces with him.

Good way to see the state of the soi, how many girls, which girls, how busy the soi is in live.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF8bcg8CvyQ[/URL][/QUOTE]Fellas been enjoying the reading on here so I thought I contibute a little something to this side of the board. Paolo99 a few pages back had share a korean youtuber showcasing the girls on soi 6, well now there another guy that's showing soi 6 girls as well. And I think hes thai because he speaking to girls in their language. And just to show how small the world is becoming while hes filming and talking to the girls you can see where he sees the korean youtuber videoing and talking to the girls as well LOL.

In any case here's another video where you can see the current talent of soi 6 in all its heavenly glory.

Peace.

[URL]https://youtu.be/almg6iYa-yo[/URL]

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2837735]Fellas been enjoying the reading on here so I thought I contibute a little something to this side of the board. Paolo99 a few pages back had share a korean youtuber showcasing the girls on soi 6, well now there another guy that's showing soi 6 girls as well. And I think hes thai because he speaking to girls in their language. And just to show how small the world is becoming while hes filming and talking to the girls you can see where he sees the korean youtuber videoing and talking to the girls as well LOL.

In any case here's another video where you can see the current talent of soi 6 in all its heavenly glory.

Peace.

[URL]https://youtu.be/almg6iYa-yo[/URL][/QUOTE]He is not Thai.

The girls wouldn't let themselves being filmed by a Thai man.

He's got an Eastern European accent, maybe Russian? In some of the vids you can briefly see him in a mirror, or you can see him in other youtuber's videos.

I've been watching him from his first vid, it can be funny at times but he gets confronted to the same problem as we do when we go there on a daily basis. He ends up interracting with the same people over and over again and it makes new encounters more difficult, and the all stuff becomes boring.

Now look to which kind of girls he is saying "you're beautiful", look which kind of girls he is going for and compare that to the korean guy. The difference is abysmal.

They are currently 3 Youtubers doing the soi up and down dayly, plus all the boring walkers.

Here is the last one, Korean also. He is doing the big spending, lining up the girls to shake their booties and tipping everybody.

His stuff is not recorded, so one has to look him live only to see the interresting part (most of the time he's there from 7 pm Thailand time), but he ends up in the same places most of the time (Butterfly, Kawai and one of the bars near second road).

These Korean guys have been there for monthes already, every girls know them and all hope they are going to come in their bars.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFuPCuuMIMA[/URL]

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2837735]Fellas been enjoying the reading on here so I thought I contibute a little something to this side of the board. Paolo99 a few pages back had share a korean youtuber showcasing the girls on soi 6, well now there another guy that's showing soi 6 girls as well. And I think hes thai because he speaking to girls in their language. And just to show how small the world is becoming while hes filming and talking to the girls you can see where he sees the korean youtuber videoing and talking to the girls as well LOL.

In any case here's another video where you can see the current talent of soi 6 in all its heavenly glory.

Peace.

[URL]https://youtu.be/almg6iYa-yo[/URL][/QUOTE]No way in San Jose would a manager or Owner let a random Thai Boy do this. Just asking for TRUBBLE.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2837461]I'm a Believer.

Had a session with a Girl I met earlier in the week. Soi 6. 1,500 very acceptable as far as body and Face. 1,500 baht plus 400 room.

I keep thinking to myself this can't be right. Why so economical for young and Hot.[/QUOTE]It's never too late.

Hopefully one day you'll find one like her for 1 K and stop the 1000 bahters trashing.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2837461] volunteered she has a 2 year old Son. She is 24. This is the 2nd one that I would not have guessed they had a Baby.

No marks of Stretch or nothing.[/QUOTE]They are always pride when in comes to talking about their kids, even showing the pics instantly. Just ask them and they will gladly talk about that matter.

I've met a few like that one too, with perfect pussy, zero stretch mark and great body.

It makes me wonder what kind of alimentary hygiene the girls with destroyed bodies had during their pregnancy.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2837645]Which bar? Galaxy on walking street?[/QUOTE]

You're more likely to get a response if you quote the OP, not a person who was replying to him.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2837646]I read that he went there at 8 PM and paid 400 baht cover.[/QUOTE]Oh, I thought the space between the "," and "4" was one of those autocorrect spaces.

BTW Admin, you can fix vBulletin's autocorrect issue of leaving unwanted spaces.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2837589]
As I get to Playpen Baitoey is standing outside. Boom a guy takes her in for a Drink.

As an exception I would have Barfined her right there.

She is quite Popular. Some girls are like that. Maybe even less than some.

Will try again in August if some Korean hasn't locked her up in his Dungeon by then.[/QUOTE]Try to get there in the afternoon, things are looking quiet there before 6 pm especially these days with the rain.

Eventually you should be able to find her available.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2837788]It's never too late.

Hopefully one day you'll find one like her for 1 K and stop the 1000 bahters trashing.

They are always pride when in comes to talking about their kids, even showing the pics instantly. Just ask them and they will gladly talk about that matter.

I've met a few like that one too, with perfect pussy, zero stretch mark and great body.

It makes me wonder what kind of alimentary hygiene the girls with destroyed bodies had during their pregnancy.[/QUOTE]I'm not Trashing the 1,000 baht Girls. I'm trashing the guys who say quality is available at that Price point.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2837788]I've met a few like that one too, with perfect pussy, zero stretch mark and great body.

It makes me wonder what kind of alimentary hygiene the girls with destroyed bodies had during their pregnancy.[/QUOTE]What makes you think they did or did not do something? Many things with humans are simply genetics and nature.

So I'm actually watching Baitoey. Maybe she is 1,500 because her teeth point in every which way but the normal way. Chill people.

In Bangkok thread a guy thinks high end places give good service. Hahaha. See why I Harp on looks per 1000 baht. There is a Correlation.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2837920]What makes you think they did or did not do something? Many things with humans are simply genetics and nature.[/QUOTE]Difference can be huge. We cannot put everything on genetics and nature.

I made a rare visit to Walking Street last night.

On the way, I saw that south 2nd Road was swarming with ladies standing around, waiting for South Asian customers. One lady was negotiating with 7 men.

I hit Skyfall first. It was quiet, and the loss of talent was striking. Even the top tier ladies were hit and miss.

Then I went to Palace, which was crowded, and had loads of dancers, including some hotties.

Of course, 90% of the customers are Koreans. Those are the guys who hold their cigarettes weirdly.

Then, on to Windmill. I guess the old Annabelles is now Windmill 2, but I went to the original site. Both floors open. I sat by the shower tub. There was a Korean man with his Korean wife, and he was handing out cash and playing with the ladies. Judging by the wife's facial expression, she would make his life a living Hell in the morning.

Again, mostly Korean customers in Windmill.

I am planning my first trip end of Aug / Sept. I had a few questions hopefully seniors and locals can help.

After reading about 40 pages this is what I got.

I will be flying into Bangkok so that would be a taxi ride of 2 hours. *.

Any suggestions?* That will make is easy and smooth. Or do just get a taxi, if so what is a good amount to pay?

The hotel I would like to stay at is Hoilday Inn which is off of Beach road and a 10 minute walk to Soi6. * Using points.

Is this a good idea or not?

Would like to bring some FL if possible.

Anyone have experience with this hotel?

If not a good option any recommendations. Looking for something that is quite and not far from action.

Once service I really need is laundry.

Amenities good wifi, AC and fridge.

Speaking of FL I looked up and signed up for TF looks like you have to pay to access the popular profiles. * $10 for a year.

I am assuming you would just contact them let them know what your looking and see if what happens.

Beach Road is basically "street working" girls. * Start a conversation, let them know what you are looking for. * Make sure everything is clear and let her know I will be paying after service.

If all works outs take her to your room? Or will I need to get a ST room?

Best times to go would be when it's cooler or right before evening.

Bar girls.

Go to bar walk around see if anyone interest you either approach or ask mamasan. * I would like to get to know them and let them know what I am looking for so 1 drink for them would be good enough.

Bar fine is going to depend on Bar could be 1000 to 2000 baht? I don't think this is quite right.

ST rooms are about 600 to 800 baht?

ST is an 1 or 2 hours or less?

Is this something I need to clarify with the girl?

If 1 or 2 hours should I expect to get the whole time or is it like restaurants in Japan once the meal is done GET OUT. Or can you do multiple rounds?

Girls fee seems to be 1500 baht some can be had for 1000 baht. I surmise this is for your average looking girls. * Are the more attractive ones higher if so how much.

Is there anything important I have missed?

Message places and BJ places.

I feels this is just like any message place. * Get a rub down and service. * Choose a girl that is in front.

What I could not find is the pricing.

I am assuming there is set price for time and an additional fee for the girls services?

Same question about the BJ places. * Would it be with or without cover? I can figure out the rest.

Any places to be recommended?

I have read there are Russian or Europeans available aswell but not much info. * Any info would be great.

Money exchange.

Any recommendations?

Any tricks to watch out?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

It would be great if I could meet some of you experts while on the trip. *.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]Speaking of FL I looked up and signed up for TF looks like you have to pay to access the popular profiles. * $10 for a year.
[/QUOTE]Looks like I have been had!

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]I am planning my first trip end of Aug / Sept. I had a few questions hopefully seniors and locals can help.

After reading about 40 pages this is what I got.

*.[/QUOTE]Are you sure you read 40 pages of the Pattaya forum or something else?

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]I am planning my first trip end of Aug / Sept. I had a few questions hopefully seniors and locals can help.

After reading about 40 pages this is what I got.

I will be flying into Bangkok so that would be a taxi ride of 2 hours. *.

Any suggestions?* That will make is easy and smooth. Or do just get a taxi, if so what is a good amount to pay?

The hotel I would like to stay at is Hoilday Inn which is off of Beach road and a 10 minute walk to Soi6. * Using points.

Is this a good idea or not?

Would like to bring some FL if possible.

Anyone have experience with this hotel?

If not a good option any recommendations. Looking for something that is quite and not far from action.

Once service I really need is laundry.

Amenities good wifi, AC and fridge.

Speaking of FL I looked up and signed up for TF looks like you have to pay to access the popular profiles. * $10 for a year.

I am assuming you would just contact them let them know what your looking and see if what happens.

Beach Road is basically "street working" girls. * Start a conversation, let them know what you are looking for. * Make sure everything is clear and let her know I will be paying after service.

If all works outs take her to your room? Or will I need to get a ST room?

Best times to go would be when it's cooler or right before evening.

Bar girls.

Go to bar walk around see if anyone interest you either approach or ask mamasan. * I would like to get to know them and let them know what I am looking for so 1 drink for them would be good enough.

Bar fine is going to depend on Bar could be 1000 to 2000 baht? I don't think this is quite right.

ST rooms are about 600 to 800 baht?

ST is an 1 or 2 hours or less?

Is this something I need to clarify with the girl?

If 1 or 2 hours should I expect to get the whole time or is it like restaurants in Japan once the meal is done GET OUT. Or can you do multiple rounds?

Girls fee seems to be 1500 baht some can be had for 1000 baht. I surmise this is for your average looking girls. * Are the more attractive ones higher if so how much.

Is there anything important I have missed?

Message places and BJ places.

I feels this is just like any message place. * Get a rub down and service. * Choose a girl that is in front.

What I could not find is the pricing.

I am assuming there is set price for time and an additional fee for the girls services?

Same question about the BJ places. * Would it be with or without cover? I can figure out the rest.

Any places to be recommended?

I have read there are Russian or Europeans available aswell but not much info. * Any info would be great.

Money exchange.

Any recommendations?

Any tricks to watch out?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

It would be great if I could meet some of you experts while on the trip. *.[/QUOTE]I'll take an EZ one.

Barfines ZERRo on Soi 6. Up to 2,500 baht at Major Walk St. Agogos.

Many of your? Can be answered with a big fat Maybe / Depends.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2838264]Are you sure you read 40 pages of the Pattaya forum or something else?[/QUOTE]I guess I read something else. Thanks buddy.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]I am planning my first trip end of Aug / Sept. I had a few questions hopefully seniors and locals can help.

After reading about 40 pages this is what I got.
[/QUOTE]* Taxi is about 90 min from BKK to your hotel. YOu find ton of taxi's on facebook. Should cost about 1000-1200 THB.

* Hotel reviews? Check google or agoda. Much easier. For a quiet hotel I would recommend Acqua hotel or Intimate hotel. Halfway all the action and close to LK Metro.

* Laundry services are all around. YOu probbaly stumble upon one easily when in town.

* Cost for TF might be different per country. Same applies for tinder.

* 90% of the ladies on datingsites are freelance or work bar / massage so just send them a message and go with the flow.

* Freelancers can be taken to your room or you can find a ST room (the girl will know a ST hotel).

* ST is max 1-2 hours and is one pop. If you cum she goes. Unless you agree otherwise (however she might charge extra).

* LT is normal till next day however some agogos now seem to limit LT to 5 hours (incl 2 pops).

* Prices for ST are between 1000-3000 depending in girl and location (agogo girl would ask 3 K ST easily exc barfine).

* BJ Bars are soi 13/1 and 13/2. Uncovered. Prices ask when there.

* Massage; 1000-1500 for ST (1 HR) is normal price.

* Skip all European / Russian chicks.

* All yellow exchanges have the better rates. However rates change so don't make it too complicated for yourself. Avoid ATMs if possible because of the fees.

* Watch out? Don't do pingpong shows, don't fall in love, check your bin or pay after your drinks, don't get wasted and respect the Thai culture. Don't be a jerk.

* don't focus to much on soi6 only. There is so much more in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838267]I guess I read something else. Thanks buddy.[/QUOTE]It seems that way.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]I will be flying into Bangkok so that would be a taxi ride of 2 hours. *.[/QUOTE]90 Minutes, best to book with Nams Lady Drivers [URL]https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]Speaking of FL I looked up and signed up for TF looks like you have to pay to access the popular profiles. * $10 for a year. [/QUOTE]It's more that that for one month, the cheapest way is to install the app on your phone and use the phone app to get a subscription which you must cancel when you no longer need it.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]I am assuming you would just contact them let them know what your looking and see if what happens.[/QUOTE]These girls get 1,000's of messages from time wasters, wait until you are in Pattaya and send a message "ST now, 1500 THB".

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]Go to bar walk around see if anyone interest you either approach[/QUOTE]That's all you need to do.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]Bar fine is going to depend on Bar could be 1000 to 2000 baht? I don't think this is quite right.[/QUOTE]On-site you pay 300 - 400 for the room and another 1000+ to the girl. Bar fines could be 300 - 3000 depending on the time and the bar.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]I have read there are Russian or Europeans available aswell but not much info. * Any info would be great.[/QUOTE]Extremely rare, europe prices and poor attitude and quality.

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]Money exchange.[/QUOTE]TT Currency exchange.

I hit some bars yesterday. In all cases, customers were few and far between. Plenty of ladies in the bars, though.

Even when there were customers, they mostly talked to each other instead of interacting with the ladies (the "wingman" effect).

[QUOTE=Jayree;2838256]

I have read there are Russian or Europeans available aswell but not much info. * Any info would be great.

[/QUOTE]There was a bar on walking street down one of the side roads with enough Russian and Ukrainian girls that me and my 3 friends all got one for drinks.

The Ukrainian girl was literally so mind-blowingly beautiful to me I'd pay $500 in an instant to experience it, if it was guaranteed that the money could buy me an experience like the top 30% of Asian girls give. But alas there is no guarantee of anything, to my understanding way too many women from that part of the world have the heart of a scammer if working in this industry. Because of that, I wouldn't risk more than the cost of a Soi 6 quickie. But alas hell will freeze over before a Russian or Ukrainian offers you anything at that rate, so it's all a fantasy to me that will never happen. There are better ways to waste my time and money. My friend somehow got his girl to meet us for dinner at no cost but the dinner. I don't know what her angle was but it was highly suspect, he never got to bang her. Again, just a waste of time. The amount of money men are willing to throw at them is way beyond what 95+% of us on here can afford, and the girls know what will be thrown at them for minimal effort and act accordingly. A poisoned well of sorts, you can't fix it. You can only go to their own countries yourself, learn the language, and stick to small towns.

[QUOTE=Parasitius;2838511]There was a bar on walking street down one of the side roads with enough Russian and Ukrainian girls that me and my 3 friends all got one for drinks.

The Ukrainian girl was literally so mind-blowingly beautiful to me I'd pay $500 in an instant to experience it, if it was guaranteed that the money could buy me an experience like the top 30% of Asian girls give. But alas there is no guarantee of anything, to my understanding way too many women from that part of the world have the heart of a scammer if working in this industry. Because of that, I wouldn't risk more than the cost of a Soi 6 quickie. But alas hell will freeze over before a Russian or Ukrainian offers you anything at that rate, so it's all a fantasy to me that will never happen. There are better ways to waste my time and money. My friend somehow got his girl to meet us for dinner at no cost but the dinner. I don't know what her angle was but it was highly suspect, he never got to bang her. Again, just a waste of time. The amount of money men are willing to throw at them is way beyond what 95+% of us on here can afford, and the girls know what will be thrown at them for minimal effort and act accordingly. A poisoned well of sorts, you can't fix it. You can only go to their own countries yourself, learn the language, and stick to small towns.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Russia is off the table now, and Ukraine is dangerous. I did try Kazakhstan, but found no action.

Back in the day, I did travel to Russia many times, and used my pidgin Russian in smaller cities to go with Russian ladies for $20-$30. And they had a super work ethic.

But that was then and this is Pattaya. Now drinks for a Russian lady may cost that much. My advice is: don't go to Pattaya and look for Russians or Africans or anyone but Thai ladies.

Drink working girls, I hate them.

So, yesterday I went to an empty bar, ie plenty of ladies, no customers. I was with an unemployed Thai lady, she grabbed one of the many available ladies and asked questions about employment. I bought them both drinks. Since they were talking, the drinks lasted a long time.

I spotted a lady just sitting around, no customer. She was pouring large amounts of Sangsom into a glass and drinking slowly. So I bought her a drink. Unfortunately, she was a drink working girl, which means she ordered a soda water (claiming it was vodka), and downed it with one gulp.

Fortunately, I was prepared for that move, and told her the next drink would come when the other ladies finished. And no one drinks more slowly than a Thai lady talking with another Thai lady.

[QUOTE=Parasitius;2838511]The Ukrainian girl was literally so mind-blowingly beautiful to me I'd pay $500 in an instant to experience it, , But alas hell will freeze over before a Russian or Ukrainian offers you anything at that rate, so it's all a fantasy to me that will never happen. There are better ways to waste my time and money. My friend somehow got his girl to meet us for dinner at no cost but the dinner. I don't know what her angle was but it was highly suspect, he never got to bang her. Again, just a waste of time. The amount of money men are willing to throw at them is way beyond what 95+% of us on here can afford, and the girls know what will be thrown at them for minimal effort and act accordingly. A poisoned well of sorts, you can't fix it. You can only go to their own countries yourself, learn the language, and stick to small towns.[/QUOTE]You seem to be overthinking women. They are not all hookers. Why not try saying Hello, to one of the Russian tourists in town? Things are not as complicated as you are making it out to be. Everything is not always about money or an angle.

[QUOTE=Parasitius;2838511]There was a bar on walking street down one of the side roads with enough Russian and Ukrainian girls that me and my 3 friends all got one for drinks.

The Ukrainian girl was literally so mind-blowingly beautiful to me I'd pay $500 in an instant to experience it, if it was guaranteed that the money could buy me an experience like the top 30% of Asian girls give. But alas there is no guarantee of anything, to my understanding way too many women from that part of the world have the heart of a scammer if working in this industry. Because of that, I wouldn't risk more than the cost of a Soi 6 quickie. But alas hell will freeze over before a Russian or Ukrainian offers you anything at that rate, so it's all a fantasy to me that will never happen. There are better ways to waste my time and money. My friend somehow got his girl to meet us for dinner at no cost but the dinner. I don't know what her angle was but it was highly suspect, he never got to bang her. Again, just a waste of time. The amount of money men are willing to throw at them is way beyond what 95+% of us on here can afford, and the girls know what will be thrown at them for minimal effort and act accordingly. A poisoned well of sorts, you can't fix it. You can only go to their own countries yourself, learn the language, and stick to small towns.[/QUOTE]So why don't you tell us how much the girls wante?? Why be vague?

In pattaya next week. Planning to do a threesome. 2 guys and 1 girl. Anyone interested?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2838488]I hit some bars yesterday. In all cases, customers were few and far between. Plenty of ladies in the bars, though.

Even when there were customers, they mostly talked to each other instead of interacting with the ladies (the "wingman" effect).[/QUOTE]Ladies I keep in contact with on Line report the same. Not much customers and business is slow for everything. Looking at hotel prices, they don't seem to have come down much as of yet. Perhaps it's the Thai logic of keeping prices high to make up for less guests.

I imagine if the dearth of customers / tourists in Pattaya carries on, one will find better deals for LT.

Continuing to watch night beach Road videos and the selection on offer looks solid to me and 1 k baht seems like the going rate still.

[QUOTE=MDave1981;2838579]In pattaya next week. Planning to do a threesome. 2 guys and 1 girl. Anyone interested?[/QUOTE]That is called a train, not a threesome; unless you plan on getting down with the dude too. Threesome is when all 3 people have contact with each other. If you are only touching 1 of the 3 people involved then it ain't a threesome.

I read on this forum somewhere the way to make that happen is to tell a mamasan what you're wanting and ask her to help find a partner.

[QUOTE=MDave1981;2838579]In pattaya next week. Planning to do a threesome. 2 guys and 1 girl. Anyone interested?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MDave1981;2838579]In pattaya next week. Planning to do a threesome. 2 guys and 1 girl. Anyone interested?[/QUOTE][B]Actually it is called a Threesome.[/B]

Because you can have a threesome with MMF or FFM. And in the FFM the girls may not get down with each other and just focus on you. In certain circles sexual acts the MMF is referred to as [I]Split Roasting[/I] and [I]Double Penetration[/I]. I am uncertain as to why the definition is so important. In a threesome the MM or the FF have to be bisexual in order to interact with each other. At lease that has been my personal experience. And before one of you nasty mother fuckers go there, I have am not Bi. But I have done plenty of threesomes where the girls are. But it really does not do much for me. Guess I am the selfish type. LOL!

[B]Threesome[/B] - [I]"an occasion on which three people engage in sexual activity together."[/I].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2838686]That is called a train, not a threesome; unless you plan on getting down with the dude too. Threesome is when all 3 people have contact with each other. If you are only touching 1 of the 3 people involved then it ain't a threesome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2838655]Ladies I keep in contact with on Line report the same. Not much customers and business is slow for everything. Looking at hotel prices, they don't seem to have come down much as of yet. Perhaps it's the Thai logic of keeping prices high to make up for less guests.

I imagine if the dearth of customers / tourists in Pattaya carries on, one will find better deals for LT.

Continuing to watch night beach Road videos and the selection on offer looks solid to me and 1 k baht seems like the going rate still.[/QUOTE]1,000 baht will be the Going rate for Beach Road beauties till the end of time. No worries Bro.

Just like 600 baht ok Hotels will be available till the end of time.

Example. I stayed at ndtvi recently. His rooms are fine for 600 but I'm not so sure people would stay at $20 at nd over. All that quality and stuff.

I'm not so sure remodeling is the correct play. He said in a video that was the Plan.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2838516]My advice is: don't go to Pattaya and look for Russians or Africans or anyone but Thai ladies.[/QUOTE]My experience in Pattaya when talking with African girls is that they demand higher than average rates.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2838730]I read on this forum somewhere the way to make that happen is to tell a mamasan what you're wanting and ask her to help find a partner.[/QUOTE]If you are like the guy in Bkk who knows mamacita intimately I wouldn't get my hope up to high.

A newbie will be recommended the Ugly Munters who get no customers. LOL. Hahaha.

Remember Mama's are they for the Girls not us.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2838811]My experience in Pattaya when talking with African girls is that they demand higher than average rates.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. Whilst Thais are working to make a living, support the family and have a home country network, farang WG have to earn money, live in an unfamiliar environment, bring back home money for them to live for sometime with little to no income. Not to mention supporting family. Farang girls are in LOS for a limited amount of time, so must capitalise their time there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2838686]Threesome is when all 3 people have contact with each other.[/QUOTE]To misquote Woody Allen, I don't like threesomes with men of my own gender.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2838887]Whilst Thais are working to make a living, support the family and have a home country network, farang WG have to earn money, live in an unfamiliar environment, bring back home money for them to live for sometime with little to no income. Not to mention supporting family. Farang girls are in LOS for a limited amount of time, so must capitalise their time there.[/QUOTE]Where did you hear that from? Yeah they wish that they were capitalizing on time. Most of those chicks are slaves, just like when Thai chicks go to Bahrain. They have to bring back the money to whoever is holding on to their passport and paid for them to go there.

You have to figure that [B]if they had enough money to travel to Thailand (or any other country) to sell pussy, then they would not need to go to Thailand to sell pussy in the first place.[/B] So they will ask for a higher rate because someone that is not them is controlling the price.

The chick I posted about in another thread that sold her nail shop in Pattaya and went to Bahrain said she has to pay US $5300 if she wants to leave there and go back home. She is not there to freely do what she wants. She is there as a slave. Claims she does nails and sells drinks there. Nobody in their right mind is paying for a ticket for someone in Thailand to travel to do nails. Maybe I just look stupid. But she definitely was stupid.

Frankly I do not get how they keep falling for the shit. Seems like one person would come back and say NEVER do that. But maybe one person gets some kind of commission for talking other chicks into going. You can see that she she went because her friend said it was good money. But bich if you already starting $5300 in the hole, what could be good about that? THINK!

Same with guys that think they are going to travel and because they are foreigners that free chicks are going to be waiting at the airport to grovel over them. As my buddy says, that country does not exist. Same as the country does not exist for poor people from another country to enter and magically all their money problems are solved. You got to think that if there is so much legit money to be made, then it would be the locals that are making it, not your foreign ass that knows nothing about the place and can not even speak the local language. They must be listening to too much Jesse Jackson when he said keep hope alive or Obama when he said yes we can. No bich, we can't! Experience is definitely the best teacher.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2838740][B]Threesome[/B] - [I]"an occasion on which three people engage in sexual activity together."[/I].[/QUOTE]That is exactly what I said. It would not be a threesome unless [B]all 3 people engaged in sexual activity together[/B]. If each guy is only engaging in sexual activity with the girl but not with each other then that is just a train. If not, the only thing you would be doing different with the extra dude there is watching. Fucking a chick and watching another dude fuck the same chick is not a threesome.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2838516]Unfortunately, Russia is off the table now, and Ukraine is dangerous. I did try Kazakhstan, but found no action.

Back in the day, I did travel to Russia many times, and used my pidgin Russian in smaller cities to go with Russian ladies for $20-$30. And they had a super work ethic.

But that was then and this is Pattaya. Now drinks for a Russian lady may cost that much. My advice is: don't go to Pattaya and look for Russians or Africans or anyone but Thai ladies.[/QUOTE]Never been with a Russian but I've had five experiences with different black women between Bangkok and Pattaya and they've all been really good sessions.

IMHO, it's hard to find facially attractive African women but when you do they are definitely worth taking as on average they f*ck much better than Thai girls.

Always paid between 1500-2000ST, they might ask for more but can usually be bargained down.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2838740][B]Actually it is called a Threesome.[/B]

Because you can have a threesome with MMF or FFM. And in the FFM the girls may not get down with each other and just focus on you. In certain circles sexual acts the MMF is referred to as [I]Split Roasting[/I] and [I]Double Penetration[/I]. I am uncertain as to why the definition is so important. In a threesome the MM or the FF have to be bisexual in order to interact with each other. At lease that has been my personal experience. And before one of you nasty mother fuckers go there, I have am not Bi. But I have done plenty of threesomes where the girls are. But it really does not do much for me. Guess I am the selfish type. LOL!

[B]Threesome[/B] - [I]"an occasion on which three people engage in sexual activity together."[/I].[/QUOTE]It's called a Devil's threesome if it's M,M,F.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2838730]I read on this forum somewhere the way to make that happen is to tell a mamasan what you're wanting and ask her to help find a partner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2838846]If you are like the guy in Bkk who knows mamacita intimately I wouldn't get my hope up to high.

A newbie will be recommended the Ugly Munters who get no customers. LOL. Hahaha.

Remember Mama's are they for the Girls not us.[/QUOTE]I have zero interest in the aformentioned MFM threesome, but I do know that mamasan can be helpful in finding what I want. Be friendly and tip her for her recommendation (maybe 100 to 200 baht). It might take a couple visits (and tips) to get on mama's good side, but you can be rewarded with good recommendations and appropriate instructions to the girl regarding what is required in the room. I have had times where mama was disappointed that I didn't want the first girl she recommended, but she works it out because she wants happy customers who come back again and again. I have no idea why Chalupa wrote what he did.

On the topic of tipping, I always tip the hotel reception when the girl's ID is turned over. I want that person to have my back when the girl comes downstairs to collect her ID. This is another 100 to 200 baht tip from me.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2838740]
Because you can have a threesome with MMF or FFM. And in the FFM the girls may not get down with each other and just focus on you. In certain circles sexual acts the MMF is referred to as [I]Split Roasting[/I] and [I]Double Penetration[/I]. I am uncertain as to why the definition is so important. In a threesome the MM or the FF have to be bisexual in order to interact with each other. At lease that has been my personal experience. And before one of you nasty mother fuckers go there, I have am not Bi. But I have done plenty of threesomes where the girls are. But it really does not do much for me. Guess I am the selfish type. LOL![/QUOTE]It's [B]spit roasting[/B], not split roasting, and it refers to a method of roasting (food preparation) particularly associated with whole pigs. Double penetration is only when two men stick their dicks into one woman's vagina and / or anus at the same time (in any combination). "Train" as a sexual practice means men are lined up in a queue (line) of sorts and take turns having sex individually, this is stereotypically associated with one of the ethnic groups visiting Pattaya.

Let's stick to "threesome": "An instance of sexual activity involving three people. ".

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2838965]I have zero interest in the aformentioned MFM threesome, but I do know that mamasan can be helpful in finding what I want. Be friendly and tip her for her recommendation (maybe 100 to 200 baht). It might take a couple visits (and tips) to get on mama's good side, but you can be rewarded with good recommendations and appropriate instructions to the girl regarding what is required in the room. I have had times where mama was disappointed that I didn't want the first girl she recommended, but she works it out because she wants happy customers who come back again and again. I have no idea why Chalupa wrote what he did.

On the topic of tipping, I always tip the hotel reception when the girl's ID is turned over. I want that person to have my back when the girl comes downstairs to collect her ID. This is another 100 to 200 baht tip from me.[/QUOTE]I did write unless you know one and Greased their Bank Account previous they are pretty much useless. My editor might have failed me.

You wrote the same thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2838686]That is called a train, not a threesome; unless you plan on getting down with the dude too. Threesome is when all 3 people have contact with each other. If you are only touching 1 of the 3 people involved then it ain't a threesome.[/QUOTE]A "train" is when multiple men fuck the same girl, one after the other.

A MMF coupling is a "threesome"; regardless of whether there is any bi play. It could also be referred to as a DP; double penetration.

Multiple men taking on a girl at the same time (3 hole play) is a "gangbang".

I know my porn, LOL.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2838749]1,000 baht will be the Going rate for Beach Road beauties till the end of time. No worries Bro.

Just like 600 baht ok Hotels will be available till the end of time.

Example. I stayed at ndtvi recently. His rooms are fine for 600 but I'm not so sure people would stay at $20 at nd over. All that quality and stuff.

I'm not so sure remodeling is the correct play. He said in a video that was the Plan.[/QUOTE]My rule of thumb is pay more for daily hotel than daily ST. Really I'the say the two costs are at worst equal for me on the daily at around $30 to $40 max.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2838740][B]Actually it is called a Threesome.....[/I].[/QUOTE]I've heard it referred to as a ménage à trois.

[QUOTE=Parasitius;2838511]There was a bar on walking street down one of the side roads with enough Russian and Ukrainian girls that me and my 3 friends all got one for drinks.

The Ukrainian girl was literally so mind-blowingly beautiful to me I'd pay $500 in an instant to experience it, if it was guaranteed that the money could buy me an experience like the top 30% of Asian girls give. But alas there is no guarantee of anything, to my understanding way too many women from that part of the world have the heart of a scammer if working in this industry. Because of that, I wouldn't risk more than the cost of a Soi 6 quickie. But alas hell will freeze over before a Russian or Ukrainian offers you anything at that rate, so it's all a fantasy to me that will never happen. There are better ways to waste my time and money. My friend somehow got his girl to meet us for dinner at no cost but the dinner. I don't know what her angle was but it was highly suspect, he never got to bang her. Again, just a waste of time. The amount of money men are willing to throw at them is way beyond what 95+% of us on here can afford, and the girls know what will be thrown at them for minimal effort and act accordingly. A poisoned well of sorts, you can't fix it. You can only go to their own countries yourself, learn the language, and stick to small towns.[/QUOTE]Just go to Germany. Hit up one of the big "Hessian 3" FKK clubs near Frankfurt. Lots of stunning Ukrainians & Romanians. Apt to be more with the Ukraine economy in the tank. After peace breaks out, I'the expect Russians too.

Another way to do it is to invite 2 ladies to your place and givem tequila to drink. That worked for me last night.

The only problem is that I drank too much tequila along the way.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;2838990]Just go to Germany. Hit up one of the big "Hessian 3" FKK clubs near Frankfurt. Lots of stunning Ukrainians & Romanians. [/QUOTE]Are you saying there are lots of Ukranian girls working at Sharks, Oase, and Palace(?) these days? About how many? Are they young?

A lot of ladies come to Pattaya to find a foreign "boyfriend". But, they don't intend to find a real mate, they are looking for a 2 week millionaire who will send them movie when he goes home. They want enough so they can go back to Isaan to build a house and live with their Thai husband. And they view the daily messages with their sponsor as their job.

Of course, some ladies can't leave Pattaya because their real boyfriends don't want to go back to Isaan (mostly because they can't see other women back in the village). So, maybe they do some freelancing to make extra money.

Bottom line: don't get trapped into sending money to a bargirl.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2839027]Are you saying there are lots of Ukranian girls working at Sharks, Oase, and Palace(?) these days? About how many? Are they young?[/QUOTE]None that I know of.

With the Buddhist lent religious holidays anticipated 1st & 2nd Aug 23, these will be dry days with most, if not all, bars / clubs closed. Therefore I assume the freelance scene greatly picks up on beach Road, LK Metro, Soi Buakhao, etc? I also assume the online hook up sites (TF, Tinder, etc) break the internet? If anyone is in the know (Pattaya & Bangkok) please enlighten me.

[QUOTE=BlakTea;2839088]With the Buddhist lent religious holidays anticipated 1st & 2nd Aug 23, these will be dry days with most, if not all, bars / clubs closed. Therefore I assume the freelance scene greatly picks up on beach Road, LK Metro, Soi Buakhao, etc? I also assume the online hook up sites (TF, Tinder, etc) break the internet? If anyone is in the know (Pattaya & Bangkok) please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Why do guys assume that hookers work 24/7 and are always about money? Hoes like holidays too. Beach Road or the internet sites will be no busier than usual. Remember most of the chicks that are online and also work in bars are already connected while working in the bars.

And a question I like to ask is how many do you plan to fuck? If there are already 200 girls on Beach Road and 1500 chicks on the dating site on any given day, what difference would it make to your dick if on a holiday there are 250 on Beach Road and 1800 on the dating site?

[QUOTE=BlakTea;2839088]With the Buddhist lent religious holidays anticipated 1st & 2nd Aug 23, these will be dry days with most, if not all, bars / clubs closed. Therefore I assume the freelance scene greatly picks up on beach Road, LK Metro, Soi Buakhao, etc? I also assume the online hook up sites (TF, Tinder, etc) break the internet? If anyone is in the know (Pattaya & Bangkok) please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]Most will be closed August 1/2. Seems the police wasnt too happy about creative solutions before (open late, close early etc) so its now just closed for 2 days.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2839118]Why do guys assume that hookers work 24/7 and are always about money? Hoes like holidays too. Beach Road or the internet sites will be no busier than usual. Remember most of the chicks that are online and also work in bars are already connected while working in the bars.

And a question I like to ask is how many do you plan to fuck? If there are already 200 girls on Beach Road and 1500 chicks on the dating site on any given day, what difference would it make to your dick if on a holiday there are 250 on Beach Road and 1800 on the dating site?[/QUOTE]Or even "just" 120 and1000 respectively.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2839118]Why do guys assume that hookers work 24/7 and are always about money? Hoes like holidays too. Beach Road or the internet sites will be no busier than usual. Remember most of the chicks that are online and also work in bars are already connected while working in the bars.

And a question I like to ask is how many do you plan to fuck? If there are already 200 girls on Beach Road and 1500 chicks on the dating site on any given day, what difference would it make to your dick if on a holiday there are 250 on Beach Road and 1800 on the dating site?[/QUOTE]Thank you, so pretty much no change to the freelance numbers. The post was simply to understand the lay of the land over the religious holiday period as I'm sure it would be of interest to the unenlightened. Yes, hoes like holidays too but only if they've made enough money to enjoy it back home (or elsewhere), if not, these imposed religious (or otherwise) holidays can be an inconvenience to them, at least from my experience in talking to them. I'm not following the question you like to ask, it's not about how many I want to fuck? Its about who will be available to fuck? In my assumptions, I had no idea whether 1 or 1000 freelancers work over the period and if the loyal bar / club patronage, having their den closed for a couple of days, would add to the competition for freelancers or not. It was a post based on assumptions looking for understanding.

[QUOTE=BlakTea;2839088]With the Buddhist lent religious holidays anticipated 1st & 2nd Aug 23, these will be dry days with most, if not all, bars / clubs closed. Therefore I assume the freelance scene greatly picks up on beach Road, LK Metro, Soi Buakhao, etc? I also assume the online hook up sites (TF, Tinder, etc) break the internet? If anyone is in the know (Pattaya & Bangkok) please enlighten me.[/QUOTE]No it's the opposite. They are important religious holidays. It's also a 6 day weekend so the beach will be packed with Thai families.

I did another bar trek yesterday, and in all cases I was virtually the only customer. One bar did have a South Asian customer who was buying ladydrinks.

The good news is that I had the pick of the ladies, the bad news is that the pickings were slim. Most of the higher tier ladies are sponsored up, some lonely guy is paying a lady to sit home with her Thai boyfriend.

I managed to find a couple out here in Pattaya. If anyone wants them. I'd be willing to give their info. But they will want me to ask them first. They're reluctant to give out the information on ads.

PM me if you want.

Does anyone know Pattaya or Bangkok ladies that are fun-sized, really short, etc? Respectfully, no ladyboys or trans.

[QUOTE=BlakTea;2839206]Thank you, so pretty much no change to the freelance numbers. The post was simply to understand the lay of the land over the religious holiday period as I'm sure it would be of interest to the unenlightened. Yes, hoes like holidays too but only if they've made enough money to enjoy it back home (or elsewhere), if not, these imposed religious (or otherwise) holidays can be an inconvenience to them, at least from my experience in talking to them. I'm not following the question you like to ask, it's not about how many I want to fuck? Its about who will be available to fuck? In my assumptions, I had no idea whether 1 or 1000 freelancers work over the period and if the loyal bar / club patronage, having their den closed for a couple of days, would add to the competition for freelancers or not. It was a post based on assumptions looking for understanding.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I am taking a couple of bargirls to Koh Lipe for the holidays. I have to stock up on beer and whiskey, since they won't be available in shops.

Find a dating app that let's you search by height. I think thai friendly allows that but can't remember for sure. Otherwise just walk down soi 6 and look for short women. They aren't really difficult to find if you mean just a bit shorter than 5 feet.

[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2839318]Does anyone know Pattaya or Bangkok ladies that are fun-sized, really short, etc? Respectfully, no ladyboys or trans.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2839357]Find a dating app that let's you search by height. I think thai friendly allows that but can't remember for sure..[/QUOTE]Yes, but only if you are a premium member.

[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2839317]I managed to find a couple out here in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Only a couple? All one needs to do is go to 808, Flexx, or walk down Soi 6.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2839346]Yeah, I am taking a couple of bargirls to Koh Lipe for the holidays.[/QUOTE]Is there anywhere you recommend staying? Heading down at the end of next month and looking at the Mali or Ananya.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2839027]Are you saying there are lots of Ukranian girls working at Sharks, Oase, and Palace(?) these days? About how many? Are they young?[/QUOTE]I know in 2019 Palace was dominated by Romanians. Thought there was a sprinkling of Ukrainians as well, but memory fades before virility does. I'd expect after the war settles, there may be a larger influx of Ukrainian and Russian poon. But the Germans might make it hard for the Russians, and I'd definitely expect the Ukrainian and a Romanian girls to do so.

[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2839318]Does anyone know Pattaya or Bangkok ladies that are fun-sized, really short, etc? Respectfully, no ladyboys or trans.[/QUOTE]I identified a place where there are Girls like you describe. Read back like 79 pages. LOL. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;2839435]I know in 2019 Palace was dominated by Romanians. Thought there was a sprinkling of Ukrainians as well, but memory fades before virility does. I'the expect after the war settles, there may be a larger influx of Ukrainian and Russian poon. But the Germans might make it hard for the Russians, and I'the definitely expect the Ukrainian and a Romanian girls to do so.[/QUOTE]There and zero non-Thai girls working in the gogos on walking street with the exception of the two E. European ones. Palace agogo has never had any. They are white skinned Thais targeting a predominantly Asian audience. I take customers sometimes. Some real hot girls.

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It is Low Season in Pattaya, so even some of higher tier ladies have few customers. So, I will take ladies for short trips to other countries, trying not to break the 3 day rule. Because after 3 days, bargirls pine for their boyfriends.

But, before a trip abroad, I usually do a couple of nights in Bangkok, just to make sure they will actually go.

The easiest international destination is Kuala Lumpur, its close enough for a 2 night holiday.

It is common for older ladies to have traveled. Once, to some place where they worked room, and didn't see much other than customers. Side note: ladies who have worked room in other countries often have zero interest in sex afterwards, they typically don't have a real boyfriend, and mostly do BJs, due to psychological and / or physical damage to their pussies. Working room in other countries is a big red flag for me.

[QUOTE=Ebauche;2839435]I know in 2019 Palace was dominated by Romanians. Thought there was a sprinkling of Ukrainians as well, but memory fades before virility does. I'the expect after the war settles, there may be a larger influx of Ukrainian and Russian poon. But the Germans might make it hard for the Russians, and I'the definitely expect the Ukrainian and a Romanian girls to do so.[/QUOTE]2019, since it opened I've not seen Palace being Dominated by Romanians or any white group. If in fact your are talking about Palace Agogo.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2839239]I did another bar trek yesterday, and in all cases I was virtually the only customer. One bar did have a South Asian customer who was buying ladydrinks.

The good news is that I had the pick of the ladies, the bad news is that the pickings were slim. Most of the higher tier ladies are sponsored up, some lonely guy is paying a lady to sit home with her Thai boyfriend.[/QUOTE]I know you weren't in a Ndtvi Bar. There are usually 2 or 3 customers per BAR.

Tell me if this is Funny or what?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2839503]2019, since it opened I've not seen Palace being Dominated by Romanians or any white group. If in fact your are talking about Palace Agogo.[/QUOTE]They are talking about some place in another country, for some unknown reason.

Palace Agogo is dominated by Korean men.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2839503]2019, since it opened I've not seen Palace being Dominated by Romanians or any white group. If in fact your are talking about Palace Agogo.[/QUOTE]For some strange reason they are talking about German FKKs in the Pattaya thread and not a Go Go bar in Pattaya.

Is there a saloon in pattaya where I can get inner thigh / cock shaved?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2839503]2019, since it opened I've not seen Palace being Dominated by Romanians or any white group. If in fact your are talking about Palace Agogo.[/QUOTE]They are talking about clubs in Germany.

A few nights ago, one livestreamer (Korean) has been beaten up by two Thai men on beach road and left with a broken nose.

One of the Thai guy plus the livestreamer has been fined 1 K bahts.

Story available on the Pattaya news web site but the video is available only on their facebook page it seems.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/30/pattaya-man-fined-1000-baht-for-punching-south-korean-live-streamer/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Thepattayanews[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2839578]A few nights ago, one livestreamer (Korean) has been beaten up by two Thai men on beach road and left with a broken nose.

One of the Thai guy plus the livestreamer has been fined 1 K bahts.

Story available on the Pattaya news web site but the video is available only on their facebook page it seems.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/30/pattaya-man-fined-1000-baht-for-punching-south-korean-live-streamer/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Thepattayanews[/URL][/QUOTE]Can't say I have any sympathy for the Korean guy. YTers and live streamers are the scourge of Thailand. Just too many of them constantly video recording at this point. If someone asks them not to record them they should be nice enough to not do so instead of agitating them more. The police should have booted this Korean out of the country.

And the Korean is lucky all he got was a broken nose. As a male farang in Thailand, safety 101 dictates you never get into it with Thais because there will be a decent chance you get jumped by a group of guys and end up in the hospital or worse dead.

[QUOTE=MDave1981;2839545]Is there a saloon in pattaya where I can get inner thigh / cock shaved?[/QUOTE]Darun Barber shop on Soi Bukhao has a sign offering thus service for B500. Only one of their girls provides this service. I have not done this but am considering it.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2839635]As a male farang in Thailand, safety 101 dictates you never get into it with Thais because there will be a decent chance you get jumped by a group of guys and end up in the hospital or worse dead.[/QUOTE]A buddy brought me to Thailand for my first visit and that was the first thing he ever taught me. If you have a legal right to do something, it really doesn't matter when you are on the receiving end of punches and kicks.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2839578]A few nights ago, one livestreamer (Korean) has been beaten up by two Thai men on beach road and left with a broken nose.

One of the Thai guy plus the livestreamer has been fined 1 K bahts.

Story available on the Pattaya news web site but the video is available only on their facebook page it seems.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/30/pattaya-man-fined-1000-baht-for-punching-south-korean-live-streamer/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Thepattayanews[/URL][/QUOTE]Maybe part of Ice Poseidons crew? I see they picked up a new Korean. They were in Pattaya about that time.

If it was can't be good for Ice Poseidons Thai Court case.

Note. Ice crew consist of 5 or 6 streamers.

[QUOTE=Allover;2839638]Darun Barber shop on Soi Bukhao has a sign offering thus service for B500. Only one of their girls provides this service. I have not done this but am considering it.[/QUOTE]Where about soi buakhow as it is pretty long?

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2839707]Where about soi buakhow as it is pretty long?[/QUOTE]Just past Witherspoon towards Pattaya klang on left side.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2839707]Where about soi buakhow as it is pretty long?[/QUOTE]It's listed as Darun Barber and Salon on Google maps. Between Treetown and Pattaya Klang (Central Rd). Left side of Bukhao going north from Treetown. It's where Bukhao curves sharply to the left as you go north. There is a sister shop next door called Barun Barber Shop. Both shops operate as one. Please let us know if you get this done and how it went.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2839569]They are talking about clubs in Germany.[/QUOTE]Thanks, WTF do we need to start another thread? LOL.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2839635]YTers and live streamers are the scourge of Thailand. Just too many of them constantly video recording at this point.[/QUOTE]Yes everything might be recorded nowadays.

New video of some viril action recorded on Walking street. It's quite embarrassing to see oneself in such a position.

Seems like they say he didn't pay his bill.

At least his girl was loyal and stood on his side the whole time (maybe be that's what saved him from being beaten), I would say she is wife material at this point.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokRnZKoqUE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2839876]Yes everything might be recorded nowadays.

New video of some viril action recorded on Walking street. It's quite embarrassing to see oneself in such a position.

Seems like they say he didn't pay his bill.

At least his girl was loyal and stood on his side the whole time (maybe be that's what saved him from being beaten), I would say she is wife material at this point.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokRnZKoqUE[/URL][/QUOTE]Guy from the sub-continent apparently wanted to impress his girl but went a little over board.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2839578]A few nights ago, one livestreamer (Korean) has been beaten up by two Thai men on beach road and left with a broken nose.

One of the Thai guy plus the livestreamer has been fined 1 K bahts.

Story available on the Pattaya news web site but the video is available only on their facebook page it seems.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/30/pattaya-man-fined-1000-baht-for-punching-south-korean-live-streamer/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Thepattayanews[/URL][/QUOTE]Good on the Thai guys. These people invading peoples privacy and working without a work permit should have the shite kicked out of them.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2839876]Yes everything might be recorded nowadays.

New video of some viril action recorded on Walking street. It's quite embarrassing to see oneself in such a position.

Seems like they say he didn't pay his bill.

At least his girl was loyal and stood on his side the whole time (maybe be that's what saved him from being beaten), I would say she is wife material at this point.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eokRnZKoqUE[/URL][/QUOTE]He's lucky she was with him and stood up for him.

With these recent incidents it's just a good reminder to always remember you're a guest in their country so follow and mold to their ways.

I've never had any issues in Thailand due to tbe following:

I don't drink.

I don't stay out late at night.

I smile and say no thank you when someone is trying to sell me something (motorbike taxi offering ride, bar girls, etc).

If I'm ever in a dispute about $, I'll pay the difference as it would be negligible anyways. But I have never had a dispute about $ yet.

Getting mad over minor things that are out of your control is just going to ruin your holiday. Maintain sobriety and a positive attitude. Don't let the humidity and heat and the feeling of being a walking ATM to Thais get to you; remember it's your holiday so enjoy it.

[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2839317]I managed to find a couple out here in Pattaya. If anyone wants them. I'd be willing to give their info. But they will want me to ask them first. They're reluctant to give out the information on ads.

PM me if you want.[/QUOTE]Very interested but don't have pm. Are they posted on a site like finfaws or massageRepublic.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2840013]Very interested but don't have pm. Are they posted on a site like finfaws or massageRepublic.[/QUOTE]There Everywhere!

Just a matter of time before we see one of these vloggers murdered or joining the flyer's club. Said it before and will say it again there are a lot of bad people in Pattaya, especially on Soi 6.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2839905]Good on the Thai guys. These people invading peoples privacy and working without a work permit should have the shite kicked out of them.[/QUOTE]Invading someone's privacy in public? How does that work? So a guy deserves to be assaulted or put out of the country for taking pictures at the beach? Yet nobody has a problem when the news does it or with the video cameras the police have on Beach Road, or the video cameras pretty much everywhere else that people go these days. When people are making videos I try to get in it for at least a couple of seconds. I am doing nothing wrong and I have nothing to hide. Maybe that is what separates me from those wishing ill on someone for making a video.

Where I come from, if you are in public then everything is public. When I took a photography class at the university one assignment was to go out and take pictures of people going about their daily routine. You just snap away. No need to ask permission because in a public space there is no expectation of privacy.

[QUOTE=Allover;2839638]Darun Barber shop on Soi Bukhao has a sign offering thus service for B500. Only one of their girls provides this service. I have not done this but am considering it.[/QUOTE]That is actually the barber shop that I go to (not for that service though). The sign they have up says something about shaving ass.

There is also place on Soi New Plaza that has a sign up on the metal pull down advertising it, but I have never seen it open. I thought I had a picture of both signs but I can't find them. Found them!

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840031]There Everywhere![/QUOTE]I'm thinking our definition of a phat ass maybe different. I've fuct almost 100 women the 5 times I've been to pattaya / bkk and maybe 5 had phat asses. I remember every single one of them too. 2 off tinder and 3 pros. A petite girl in usa is a curvy Thai and a curvy usa Is a BBW Thai. To find any size Thai woman with a disproportionately phat ass is very rare. Thai women just aren't built like that. That body type very common in blacks, Latinas, and whites. Small waste with thick thighs and phat ass?! Not saying it don't exist in Thailand it's just rare.

Which BJ Bar is worth it these days?

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2840341]I'm thinking our definition of a phat ass maybe different.[/QUOTE]If that's your thing go in soi 6 in the "Lust" bar. Ask the girl named "Baytoei", pay her a Sangsom Coke and see if her ass is phat enough for you.

Upside, she is tall and has a very pretty face and is a very nice and funny 24 years old girl.

Downside, a little English and wears braces.

That soi has many phat assed girls, if you don't want that one in particular, you'll probably find one that suits you (look at Liquid bar too for example).

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2840545]If that's your thing go in soi 6 in the "Lust" bar. Ask the girl named "Baytoei", pay her a Sangsom Coke and see if her ass is phat enough for you.

Upside, she is tall and has a very pretty face and is a very nice and funny 24 years old girl.

Downside, a little English and wears braces.

That soi has many phat assed girls, if you don't want that one in particular, you'll probably find one that suits you (look at Liquid bar too for example).[/QUOTE]Oh Lord I miss Baitoey. She was nice to me in my 20 second interaction. I'm talking the Playpen one.

Priew of Desire.

Any comments on the 2. I'm in Fukuoka heading to Pattaya today.

Thailand 7,11's are light years ahead of those in Japan. Weird.

Plus. Baitoey wears Braces.

P.S. I'll reiterate Fat Azzes are everywhere usually connected to ugly Fat faces. No offense. Hahaha.

LaToya. LaQueesha. Precious (Charles Barkley hooker was named Precious). The Ethiopians.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840561]
P.S. I'll reiterate Fat Azzes are everywhere usually connected to ugly Fat faces. No offense. Hahaha[/QUOTE]If you honestly believe that, then I gather your reality is so warped that you're the type that would take a sexy ladyboy in heels over a regular full fledge female. NO offense 😂.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2840572]If you honestly believe that, then I gather your reality is so warped that you're the type that would take a sexy ladyboy in heels over a regular full fledge female. NO offense 😂.[/QUOTE]Challenge Sir.

Go do a survey on Soi 6. Ask around are Fat girls in demand?

Hahahahaha. Dark skin white skin and everything in between. Plump girls just can't Pull customers.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2840545]If that's your thing go in soi 6 in the "Lust" bar. Ask the girl named "Baytoei", pay her a Sangsom Coke and see if her ass is phat enough for you.

Upside, she is tall and has a very pretty face and is a very nice and funny 24 years old girl.

Downside, a little English and wears braces.

That soi has many phat assed girls, if you don't want that one in particular, you'll probably find one that suits you (look at Liquid bar too for example).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Paolo99. I will be in pattaya last week of October and bkk first week of November and I will definitely be looking her up. If I can fill my docket with PAAG I'll be in hog heaven. That's something I have yet been able to do. Thailand is far from Colombia or brasil when it comes to readily available phat asses.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840578]Challenge Sir.

Go do a survey on Soi 6. Ask around are Fat girls in demand?

Hahahahaha. Dark skin white skin and everything in between. Plump girls just can't Pull customers.[/QUOTE]Someone smart once said, "what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right". That quote is especially accurate when talking about a man's personal preference in women. We're on a website sharing info on smashing hoes all around the world, we're all deviants in here, cut the high school BS out.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2840600]Thanks for the info Paolo99. I will be in pattaya last week of October and bkk first week of November and I will definitely be looking her up. If I can fill my docket with PAAG I'll be in hog heaven. That's something I have yet been able to do. Thailand is far from Colombia or brasil when it comes to readily available phat asses.[/QUOTE]I'll check out Lust tonight. Mind you they have a lot of girls but rarely in a Blue mOon do I see an attractive one.

A bubble BUTT would stand out.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2840876]Someone smart once said, "what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right". That quote is especially accurate when talking about a man's personal preference in women. We're on a website sharing info on smashing hoes all around the world, we're all deviants in here, cut the high school BS out.[/QUOTE]Chill. There's 2 of us saying you won't have any trubble finding Fat Azzes in Thailand. Hahaha. If you want Lizzo size then maybe.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840578]Challenge Sir.

Go do a survey on Soi 6. Ask around are Fat girls in demand?

Hahahahaha. Dark skin white skin and everything in between. Plump girls just can't Pull customers.[/QUOTE]Wait I thought even skinny girls are having a hard time pulling customers as well. Simply because theres not alot of customers at the moment. And we were discussing a woman with a fat ass that is still pretty NOT a fat obese woman. On Earth there's a galactic difference. So here's a hint of a recent pretty woman with a fat ass that's NOT obese at Desire.

P.S. I'm pretty sure from the photos that most likely you still consider these 2 girls fat and ugly and/or have a fat ass but still ugly BUT no worries theres plenty of grown men with the necessary tools from here to Endor ready to go froggy style in that beautuful thai princess with a fat bubble.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840881]I'll check out Lust tonight. Mind you they have a lot of girls but rarely in a Blue mOon do I see an attractive one.

A bubble BUTT would stand out.[/QUOTE]Here are some pictures of her so you won't have to go and ask mamasan to talk to her.

She's got a huge rack so most probably you'll not find her attractive, but others asked for phat asses girls, that's why I shared this girl's contact.

Don't be a cheap ass tonight, now that she's got her face pictured on a pervert's site, at least pay her a few rounds of Sangsom and Coke, she deserves it, she's got a really nice personnality.

I've also included a picture of the girl you claim is the second prettiest of the soi, so every one can compare if Baytoei has a pretty face or not.

Note that I haven't taken any of these pictures.

We were a group of friends in Pattaya for 3 nights and had a fantastic time. Landed and one of the boys called his lady contact who said don't worry just hit the room and enjoy the massage in the room. She sent about 6-7 girls to choose from. Well they were all selected as I took 2 in the room for massage and fun. Massage shower sex conversation all for 2. 5 hours. After a while we went to the beach for a relaxing walk and came back to the room to get ready for the evening fun. Like fire word got around crazy rich Indians have landed to fuck and party and were approached by many including LB's. We went to walking street and soi6 and enjoyed. Went to one of the bars, don't remember the name. Bought 1 bottle each of vodka whisky and tequila and girls acted like honey bees. Long story short we all took 1 girl each. Quality was very decent, I say 7/10 which is certainly bangable in my book. Asking was 2. 5 k-3. 5 k ST and LT 4 k-5 k. I picked a girl for the latter however sent her home after 2 finishes. Wanted to sleep well. Banged her pretty well though and treated her well with affection and respect. Suddenly she became a 3 holer but I wasnt in the mood if I see her again will not disappoint her. The same was repeated for the next 2 evenings. Stayed at royal cliff which is GF and pretty good, thumbs up. Lots of girls on offer, quality is subjective and what you like I may not and vice versa. But I strongly believe if you have money in the pocket Pattaya has plenty to offer. I came across one beauty an absolute stunner like a 9/10. She asked for 10 k with no mention of ST / LT, I was down a few shots already for the day, like in the room and in the bar. Really wanted her for the next day but my bad she was taken by a Korean. Absolutely gutted with that. Pattaya is a great place, it was a fun trip. I hope I am back soon. I hope we kept prices in check. In 3 days I banged like 7 chicks and in each I paid 2 k-3 k ST and 4 k-5. 5 k LT. Special thanks to mongers out here who messaged me on PM and shared experiences and words of wisdom. Cheers & enjoy this vibrant city!

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2840925]Wait I thought even skinny girls are having a hard time pulling customers as well. Simply because theres not alot of customers at the moment. And we were discussing a woman with a fat ass that is still pretty NOT a fat obese woman. On Earth there's a galactic difference. So here's a hint of a recent pretty woman with a fat ass that's NOT obese at Desire.

P.S. I'm pretty sure from the photos that most likely you still consider these 2 girls fat and ugly and/or have a fat ass but still ugly BUT no worries theres plenty of grown men with the necessary tools from here to Endor ready to go froggy style in that beautuful thai princess with a fat bubble.[/QUOTE]If that is Fon from desire.

Definitely consider her un Attractive. No offense.

Other opinions on Fon please, don't be shy if you think she is HOT.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2840925]Wait I thought even skinny girls are having a hard time pulling customers as well. Simply because theres not alot of customers at the moment. And we were discussing a woman with a fat ass that is still pretty NOT a fat obese woman. On Earth there's a galactic difference. So here's a hint of a recent pretty woman with a fat ass that's NOT obese at Desire.

P.S. I'm pretty sure from the photos that most likely you still consider these 2 girls fat and ugly and/or have a fat ass but still ugly BUT no worries theres plenty of grown men with the necessary tools from here to Endor ready to go froggy style in that beautuful thai princess with a fat bubble.[/QUOTE]Gotdayum that's some serious cheekage. Thanks for the tip. Hopefully she'll still be around in October. Tbh I've haven't done the bar thing I've stuck to tinder, escort websites, soapies, and picking up women where ever, at work in the mall or market ect. Some are freelancers some hungry and curious.

Took me about 9 hours door to door. Didn't sleep well last night, a bit tired. Decided on a FL on beach road 10 pm. Big boobs, light skin, chubby but cute. I really wanted to fondle some boobs. BBBJ CIM. Porn star experience. Really got lucky she was a server. 1000 Baht 8/10.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2840987]We were a group of friends in Pattaya for 3 nights and had a fantastic time. Landed and one of the boys called his lady contact who said don't worry just hit the room and enjoy the massage in the room. She sent about 6-7 girls to choose from. Well they were all selected as I took 2 in the room for massage and fun. Massage shower sex conversation all for 2. 5 hours. After a while we went to the beach for a relaxing walk and came back to the room to get ready for the evening fun. Like fire word got around crazy rich Indians have landed to fuck and party and were approached by many including LB's. We went to walking street and soi6 and enjoyed. Went to one of the bars, don't remember the name. Bought 1 bottle each of vodka whisky and tequila and girls acted like honey bees. Long story short we all took 1 girl each. Quality was very decent, I say 7/10 which is certainly bangable in my book. Asking was 2. 5 k-3. 5 k ST and LT 4 k-5 k. I picked a girl for the latter however sent her home after 2 finishes. Wanted to sleep well. Banged her pretty well though and treated her well with affection and respect. Suddenly she became a 3 holer but I wasnt in the mood if I see her again will not disappoint her. The same was repeated for the next 2 evenings. Stayed at royal cliff which is GF and pretty good, thumbs up. Lots of girls on offer, quality is subjective and what you like I may not and vice versa. But I strongly believe if you have money in the pocket Pattaya has plenty to offer. I came across one beauty an absolute stunner like a 9/10. She asked for 10 k with no mention of ST / LT, I was down a few shots already for the day, like in the room and in the bar. Really wanted her for the next day but my bad she was taken by a Korean. Absolutely gutted with that. Pattaya is a great place, it was a fun trip. I hope I am back soon. I hope we kept prices in check. In 3 days I banged like 7 chicks and in each I paid 2 k-3 k ST and 4 k-5. 5 k LT. Special thanks to mongers out here who messaged me on PM and shared experiences and words of wisdom. Cheers & enjoy this vibrant city![/QUOTE]Nice report. So all the people who say Indians are treated poorly are not accurate. Indians who are willing to spend money seem to have no problems at all!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2841036]Nice report. So all the people who say Indians are treated poorly are not accurate. Indians who are willing to spend money seem to have no problems at all![/QUOTE]Yes when you pay 2.5 K or 3.5 K for ST when others pay between 1 K and 1.5 K it seems quite logical that you won't have a problem.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0yg2wXKrSo[/URL]

Much better view of the 2nd prettiest girl on Soi 6.

If you say I need glasses please say so. I get it its all subjective.

She does get a lot of SIMPs on theit Livestream.

P.S. Never noticed her TEETH could use a little work. Oh my. I stiil like her.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840578]Challenge Sir.

Go do a survey on Soi 6. Ask around are Fat girls in demand?.....[/QUOTE]I understand that nationals from the sub-continent and Middle Easterners demand fat girls.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2840578]Challenge Sir.

Go do a survey on Soi 6. Ask around are Fat girls in demand?

Hahahahaha. Dark skin white skin and everything in between. Plump girls just can't Pull customers.[/QUOTE]On Soi 6, I'm convinced there are so many girls and so few patrons that most girls aren't pulling customers at this point, and Soi 6 simply ain't your cream of the crop girls anyways. I feel everytime I'm on Soi 6 its like 1000 girls, none of which really are that interesting, maybe one here or there, they are all basically the same range, but there's like so few customers it hardly matters, you can pick and choose whatever you fancy and since its a set price, whatever. I expect a lot of girls sit there all day for days on end with no action, unless they are top top talent, like top 1%.

Also, if you're looking for big boobs, the gogos have fakies, if you want natural, you're probably grabbing a chubby girl on Soi 6 or beach road, they have their purpose. Not everyone is angling for the ultra skinny girl.

[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2841119]On Soi 6, I'm convinced there are so many girls and so few patrons that most girls aren't pulling customers at this point, and Soi 6 simply ain't your cream of the crop girls anyways. I feel everytime I'm on Soi 6 its like 1000 girls, none of which really are that interesting, maybe one here or there, they are all basically the same range, but there's like so few customers it hardly matters, you can pick and choose whatever you fancy and since its a set price, whatever. I expect a lot of girls sit there all day for days on end with no action, unless they are top top talent, like top 1%.

Also, if you're looking for big boobs, the gogos have fakies, if you want natural, you're probably grabbing a chubby girl on Soi 6 or beach road, they have their purpose. Not everyone is angling for the ultra skinny girl.[/QUOTE]I know Soi 6 viewpoints are subjective.

Having said that if you disagree with this Synapses you are wrong.

Can be Fun though.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2840987] Stayed at royal cliff which is GF and pretty good, thumbs up. Lots of girls on offer, quality is subjective and what you like I may not and vice versa[/QUOTE]Great report. Specifically which Royal Cliff did you stay in? There seems to be 4 different Royal Cliffs to choose from.

1. Thailand is a dirty place.

2. Bangkok has only street food and no top serving restaurants.

3. Every girl in Thailand is a WG.

4. Thailand is visited by only sex mongers.

And so on, I hope I can make you understand. I let you decide mate, you see only what you want to see. If one is willing he is successful. One night of partying cost us max TB 15-18 k and we were treated like gods, its nothing. This will not get you 2 hours in a bar in Europe or as a matter of fact in India leave alone the entire night.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2841036]Nice report. So all the people who say Indians are treated poorly are not accurate. Indians who are willing to spend money seem to have no problems at all![/QUOTE]

Bro, I don't haggle. If I like her I'll take her if not I'll move on. I am well served in the room with no hidden charges, mighty important. Sorry if I bruised your mongering budget. Raise your quality standards and bring your A game! Have a good weekend.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2841038]Yes when you pay 2.5 K or 3.5 K for ST when others pay between 1 K and 1.5 K it seems quite logical that you won't have a problem.[/QUOTE]

Beach hotel, very comfy and smooth.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2841188]Great report. Specifically which Royal Cliff did you stay in? There seems to be 4 different Royal Cliffs to choose from.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2841198]If one is willing he is successful. One night of partying cost us max TB 15-18 k and we were treated like gods, its nothing. This will not get you 2 hours in a bar in Europe leave alone the entire night.[/QUOTE]Firstly thanks for the fun report. Hope others are to follow. This sentence I have cut out from your response encaptures entirely the right perspective for a tourist in Thailand. I have made many trips to Thailand directly from Dubai and before there from Europe. So having had a fabulous night in Club Vive Madrid last September (total cost for 2 hours with a stunning Romanian, including two lady drinks and small entry fee = 650 euros /25,000 THB) I fly to Dubai and have 2 fabulous nights. The amazing Club B night cost me nearly 3000 AED /28,000 THB, and Jules cheaper at 2000 AED /19,000 THB. My maths says I boarded a flight to Thailand having just spent a total of circa 72,000 THB in three (excellent) nights. Average spend for 2 hours max with very attractive girl was circa 24,000THB.

I get to Pattaya and decide to go to Soi 6 first, having been many times. Having RTFF I had learned that normal prices were around 1400-1500 (1000 for the girl and rest for the room) for ST. I recall seeing a very pretty young slim girl who 2 nights before I would happily have paid the 3000 AED /28,000 THB for. She quotes me 2000 THB ST and I protest it should be only 1500. She stands firm. What did I do? Like a total idiot I walk away. Over a pathetic 500 THB which is about 13 euros!! What a fool I was.

It is all well and good local mongers saying "don't come here flashing your money you will push the prices up". I obviously understand that if everyone had the 2 week millionaire mentality it would push prices up everywhere for everyone. Not good. Some respect is necessary for the greater good of all. But balance is needed here. It is easy to get wrapped up with what the local price should be when in instead, the sensible monger (you and your friends were) should switch into “I’m in a candy shop with really cheap prices” mentality and exploit that to the full to have a total party/ capitalise on incredibly inexpensive pussy available.

I returned to Soi 6 once I had given my head a wobble determined to find that pretty girl and offer her 6000 for LT (which would still have been crazy cheap) but of course I didn't find her at all during the rest of that trip. Oh sure lots of other (good options) but I forfeited a peach for a measly few bahts/euros.

I return to the Land of Smiles in a few weeks and I will not be haggling over 13 euros, nor for that matter over 53 euros.

Get to Thailand if a tourist and just feast on the low cost opportunities.
Find the girl (s) you think are the best for you, whatever shape or size (happily we are all different in our tastes or otherwise there would not be many girls available!) and pay a good price to secure great service. Have firmly in mind what the same service in other parts of the World would cost. That latter part means for me, in a few weeks time, I will have a totally different mentality this time and will not haggle once. The options in Thailand are many, cost a fraction of what the same costs nearly anywhere else in the World and I fully intend to have that in mind when making my selections and tipping generously for great service.

Penny wise pound foolish or penny foolish pound wise. For me one has to invest. Either you invest in time and chat them up for days before the trip (TF / baddoo / bumble / Tinder) and there are high chances you can score for free or take another route. Invest in TB pay the asking and do justice to your evening and do it your way. Always get good service. Don't be a cheap charlie, for heavens sake drink one less pint and get what you deserve, give it a thought!

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2841229]Firstly thanks for the fun report. Hope others are to follow. This sentence I have cut out from your response encaptures entirely the right perspective for a tourist in Thailand. I have made many trips to Thailand directly from Dubai and before there from Europe. So having had a fabulous night in Club Vive Madrid last September (total cost for 2 hours with a stunning Romanian, including two lady drinks and small entry fee = 650 euros /25,000 THB) I fly to Dubai and have 2 fabulous nights. The amazing Club B night cost me nearly 3000 AED /28,000 THB, and Jules cheaper at 2000 AED /19,000 THB. My maths says I boarded a flight to Thailand having just spent a total of circa 72,000 THB in three (excellent) nights. Average spend for 2 hours max with very attractive girl was circa 24,000THB.

I get to Pattaya and decide to go to Soi 6 first, having been many times. Having RTFF I had learned that normal prices were around 1400-1500 (1000 for the girl and rest for the room) for ST. I recall seeing a very pretty young slim girl who 2 nights before I would happily have paid the 3000 AED /28,000 THB for. She quotes me 2000 THB ST and I protest it should be only 1500. She stands firm. What did I do? Like a total idiot I walk away. Over a pathetic 500 THB which is about 13 euros!! What a fool I was.

It is all well and good local mongers saying "don't come here flashing your money you will push the prices up". I obviously understand that if everyone had the 2 week millionaire mentality it would push prices up everywhere for everyone. Not good. Some respect is necessary for the greater good of all. But balance is needed here. It is easy to get wrapped up with what the local price should be when in instead, the sensible monger (you and your friends were) should switch into Im in a candy shop with really cheap prices mentality and exploit that to the full to have a total party/ capitalise on incredibly inexpensive pussy available.

I returned to Soi 6 once I had given my head a wobble determined to find that pretty girl and offer her 6000 for LT (which would still have been crazy cheap) but of course I didn't find her at all during the rest of that trip. Oh sure lots of other (good options) but I forfeited a peach for a measly few bahts/euros.

I return to the Land of Smiles in a few weeks and I will not be haggling over 13 euros, nor for that matter over 53 euros.

Get to Thailand if a tourist and just feast on the low cost opportunities.
Find the girl (s) you think are the best for you, whatever shape or size (happily we are all different in our tastes or otherwise there would not be many girls available!) and pay a good price to secure great service. Have firmly in mind what the same service in other parts of the World would cost. That latter part means for me, in a few weeks time, I will have a totally different mentality this time and will not haggle once. The options in Thailand are many, cost a fraction of what the same costs nearly anywhere else in the World and I fully intend to have that in mind when making my selections and tipping generously for great service.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2841229]Firstly thanks for the fun report. Hope others are to follow. This sentence I have cut out from your response encaptures entirely the right perspective for a tourist in Thailand. I have made many trips to Thailand directly from Dubai and before there from Europe. So having had a fabulous night in Club Vive Madrid last September (total cost for 2 hours with a stunning Romanian, including two lady drinks and small entry fee = 650 euros /25,000 THB) I fly to Dubai and have 2 fabulous nights. The amazing Club B night cost me nearly 3000 AED /28,000 THB, and Jules cheaper at 2000 AED /19,000 THB. My maths says I boarded a flight to Thailand having just spent a total of circa 72,000 THB in three (excellent) nights. Average spend for 2 hours max with very attractive girl was circa 24,000THB.

I get to Pattaya and decide to go to Soi 6 first, having been many times. Having RTFF I had learned that normal prices were around 1400-1500 (1000 for the girl and rest for the room) for ST. I recall seeing a very pretty young slim girl who 2 nights before I would happily have paid the 3000 AED /28,000 THB for. She quotes me 2000 THB ST and I protest it should be only 1500. She stands firm. What did I do? Like a total idiot I walk away. Over a pathetic 500 THB which is about 13 euros!! What a fool I was.

It is all well and good local mongers saying "don't come here flashing your money you will push the prices up". I obviously understand that if everyone had the 2 week millionaire mentality it would push prices up everywhere for everyone. Not good. Some respect is necessary for the greater good of all. But balance is needed here. It is easy to get wrapped up with what the local price should be when in instead, the sensible monger (you and your friends were) should switch into Im in a candy shop with really cheap prices mentality and exploit that to the full to have a total party/ capitalise on incredibly inexpensive pussy available.

I returned to Soi 6 once I had given my head a wobble determined to find that pretty girl and offer her 6000 for LT (which would still have been crazy cheap) but of course I didn't find her at all during the rest of that trip. Oh sure lots of other (good options) but I forfeited a peach for a measly few bahts/euros.

I return to the Land of Smiles in a few weeks and I will not be haggling over 13 euros, nor for that matter over 53 euros.

Get to Thailand if a tourist and just feast on the low cost opportunities.
Find the girl (s) you think are the best for you, whatever shape or size (happily we are all different in our tastes or otherwise there would not be many girls available!) and pay a good price to secure great service. Have firmly in mind what the same service in other parts of the World would cost. That latter part means for me, in a few weeks time, I will have a totally different mentality this time and will not haggle once. The options in Thailand are many, cost a fraction of what the same costs nearly anywhere else in the World and I fully intend to have that in mind when making my selections and tipping generously for great service.[/QUOTE]I can never understand why people compare prices in their home country, or Dubai for example to Pattaya. The average wages and cost of living are worlds apart.

Its true that it is only a 500 baht difference but once everyone accepts that, then they will ask for 2500 then 3000 and so on.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2840987]In 3 days I banged like 7 chicks and in each I paid 2 k-3 k ST and 4 k-5. 5 k LT. Special thanks to mongers out here who messaged me on PM and shared experiences and words of wisdom. Cheers & enjoy this vibrant city![/QUOTE]Great report.

What bars or street do you recommend visiting?

Fellow mongers -.

After covid first time going to Bangkok and Pattaya from tmw for 10 days. Any suggestions on where to pick freelancers for ST and LT. Will keep you posted all my experiences.

TIA.

Pin Ups Sat Night.

Like Soi 6 quality. Not one attractive girl at all.

I saw that girl famous with braces. She has a cute face and wouldn't believe she was a mother because her flat stomach and arched ass. He boobs did have some stretch marks.

She was drinking with some bloke with her back to the soi and then a guy walked in and went to the back, turned around and walked to the front and kicked a chair over when he saw her drinking with a customer. He sat at the bar alone, no drinking, looking at his phone, waiting for her to come back downstairs after smashing.

The Korean IRL streamer showed up wearing his Reds hat and bought a carafe of shots and did his interviews.

A pretty faced 20 y / o at The Spot seduced me. She was from BKK, pretty face and small slim body but had cold vibes so I bounced.

Went to Central Festival for the first time since 2015. Wow that place has changed. Last I was there the ground floor was a swap meet of clothes made in China.

That's all I have for today.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2841307]a guy walked in and went to the back, turned around and walked to the front and kicked a chair over when he saw her drinking with a customer. He sat at the bar alone, no drinking, looking at his phone, waiting for her to come back downstairs after smashing.[/QUOTE]Most probably Mr Chalupa wanting to pay his rounds of Sangsom Coke.

No offense Chan.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2841303]Pin Ups Sat Night.

Like Soi 6 quality. Not one attractive girl at all.[/QUOTE]This is kinda surprising?

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2841276]I can never understand why people compare prices in their home country, or Dubai for example to Pattaya. The average wages and cost of living are worlds apart.

Its true that it is only a 500 baht difference but once everyone accepts that, then they will ask for 2500 then 3000 and so on.[/QUOTE]I can only agree 100%!

I think I bought some fake Sildenafil at a pharmacy on second road because it didn't work. Pharmacy says it's authentic but it looks too thick.

Anyone advise.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2841397]I think I bought some fake Sildenafil at a pharmacy on second road because it didn't work. Pharmacy says it's authentic but it looks too thick.

Anyone advise.[/QUOTE]I've twice had fake vardenafil (Levitra), but never fake sildenafil. The fake vardenafil came from a pharmacy in Tijuana and from a street vendor along Sukhumvit (labeled Levitra and Bayer). I now bring my ED meds from USA and the generics have always worked fine for me.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2841397]I think I bought some fake Sildenafil at a pharmacy on second road because it didn't work. Pharmacy says it's authentic but it looks too thick.

Anyone advise.[/QUOTE]Buy the one produced by a Thai company, the name is "Sidegra" (around 200 bahts for 4 pills of 100 MG), they won't counterfeit this one.

It is available in every pharmacy, just don't go to the big chains like Boots or Watson.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2841307]I saw that girl famous with braces. She has a cute face and wouldn't believe she was a mother because her flat stomach and arched ass. He boobs did have some stretch marks.

She was drinking with some bloke with her back to the soi and then a guy walked in and went to the back, turned around and walked to the front and kicked a chair over when he saw her drinking with a customer. He sat at the bar alone, no drinking, looking at his phone, waiting for her to come back downstairs after smashing.

The Korean IRL streamer showed up wearing his Reds hat and bought a carafe of shots and did his interviews.

A pretty faced 20 y / o at The Spot seduced me. She was from BKK, pretty face and small slim body but had cold vibes so I bounced.

Went to Central Festival for the first time since 2015. Wow that place has changed. Last I was there the ground floor was a swap meet of clothes made in China.

That's all I have for today.[/QUOTE]Famous LUST girl with Braces. Who?

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2841307]The Korean IRL streamer showed up wearing his Reds hat and bought a carafe of shots and did his interviews.[/QUOTE]Guess we'll see you in his video.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2841433]Guess we'll see you in his video.[/QUOTE]You'll immediately recognize me as Brad Pitt's doppelganger.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2841276]I can never understand why people compare prices in their home country, or Dubai for example to Pattaya. The average wages and cost of living are worlds apart.

Its true that it is only a 500 baht difference but once everyone accepts that, then they will ask for 2500 then 3000 and so on.[/QUOTE]Agree 1000%.

Soi6 Plus Sized girls.

Sunday 8 pm. I spotted one 400 pounder. 3 300 pounders. Attractive -ness is commiserate with Girth. Hahaha.

P.S. Baitoey still in Bar. Not bought out if there is such a Thing. They aren't Slaves. I could be in err on this one.

Not all of my barfines are great.

I took a bargirl to Bangkok yesterday, but by 9 pm, she was antsy. She asked if she could go alone to Soi Cowboy. I wrote off the night at that point, she left, and didn't come back to the hotel until 5 am. So, yeah, it was a busted night for me.

She posted on Facebook in the middle of the night that she hooked up with a young Farang on Khaosan Road. Good for her.

When we got back to Pattaya, I dropped her off, and paid her zero baht. Obviously, she is out of my rotation.

Later in the day, she sent me a message stating that her rent is due and she needs 5000 baht.

How would you respond?

[QUOTE=BonMonger;2841287]Fellow mongers -.

After covid first time going to Bangkok and Pattaya from tmw for 10 days. Any suggestions on where to pick freelancers for ST and LT. Will keep you posted all my experiences.

TIA.[/QUOTE]BKK: Sukimvit Road; Soi 7 - Soi 11 area and outside Nana Plaza.

Pattaya: Beach Road (aka "Coconut Bar".

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841575]How would you respond?[/QUOTE]Three options come to mind:

1. No reply.

2. Too late.

3. 555.

I see no reason to be supportive to someone who treats you like shit.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841575]Not all of my barfines are great.

I took a bargirl to Bangkok yesterday, but by 9 pm, she was antsy. She asked if she could go alone to Soi Cowboy. I wrote off the night at that point, she left, and didn't come back to the hotel until 5 am. So, yeah, it was a busted night for me.

She posted on Facebook in the middle of the night that she hooked up with a young Farang on Khaosan Road. Good for her.

When we got back to Pattaya, I dropped her off, and paid her zero baht. Obviously, she is out of my rotation.

Later in the day, she sent me a message stating that her rent is due and she needs 5000 baht.

How would you respond?[/QUOTE]Block her and move on. Not complicated. You rode back together from bkk to patts? Must have been a long awkward ride haha.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841575]Not all of my barfines are great.

I took a bargirl to Bangkok yesterday, but by 9 pm, she was antsy. She asked if she could go alone to Soi Cowboy. I wrote off the night at that point, she left, and didn't come back to the hotel until 5 am. So, yeah, it was a busted night for me.

She posted on Facebook in the middle of the night that she hooked up with a young Farang on Khaosan Road. Good for her.

When we got back to Pattaya, I dropped her off, and paid her zero baht. Obviously, she is out of my rotation.

Later in the day, she sent me a message stating that her rent is due and she needs 5000 baht.

How would you respond?[/QUOTE][URL]https://hackspirit.com/signs-shes-not-into-you/[/URL]

[QUOTE=David2;2841638][URL]https://hackspirit.com/signs-shes-not-into-you/[/URL][/QUOTE]I always ghost ghosters, anything else lacks self respect.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2841670]I always ghost ghosters, anything else lacks self respect.[/QUOTE]I worry about our Friend in that he needs to ask what is Proper protocol. No offense.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2841452]You'll immediately recognize me as Brad Pitt's doppelganger.[/QUOTE]Oh so like every other guy in Pattaya. Got it.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841575]Not all of my barfines are great.

I took a bargirl to Bangkok yesterday, but by 9 pm, she was antsy. She asked if she could go alone to Soi Cowboy. I wrote off the night at that point, she left, and didn't come back to the hotel until 5 am. So, yeah, it was a busted night for me.[/QUOTE]So what was your discussion like when you asked her to go to BKK with you? Maybe her expectations were different than yours. I remember planning a trip to Japan with a gogo girl in 2016. I bought the plane tickets but when we started discussing the things we both wanted to do they were the exact opposite of one another. I wanted to hang out in Shinjuku and Akihabara. She wanted to go see all the temples and see the rural areas outside of Tokyo. We decided it was best for us to go separately. She paid me for her ticket and I cancelled mine. She posted on Facebook a few weeks later of all the exact places on where she said she wanted to go. I'm still very good friends with her but clearly would not have been if we actually went on our trip.

9 pm on a weekend night this girl is in BKK. Maybe she doesn't get up there often and wanted to party and all you wanted to do was lay around inside a hotel room. Maybe she wanted to go to gogo and ladyboy bars to get horned up then give you the night of your life. Maybe she just wasn't having fun with you.

I don't get it, she left you in your hotel room alone and then you let her back in the room later that night or in the morning? I would have packed up her shit, gave it to reception in the lobby, and checked out. If I were feeling generous I would have left 140 baht for her to take the bus back to Pattaya. Then book a second room and go to Thermae and bang 3 different girls before they close.

As for how to respond? Clearly I broke off my relationship with her last night so there is no need to think of how to move forward with her.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2841632]Block her and move on. Not complicated. You rode back together from bkk to patts? Must have been a long awkward ride haha.[/QUOTE]Oh, yes.

Very quiet.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2841722]

So what was your discussion like when you asked her to go to BKK with you? Maybe her expectations were different than yours. I remember planning a trip to Japan with a gogo girl in 2016. I bought the plane tickets but when we started discussing the things we both wanted to do they were the exact opposite of one another. I wanted to hang out in Shinjuku and Akihabara. She wanted to go see all the temples and see the rural areas outside of Tokyo. We decided it was best for us to go separately. She paid me for her ticket and I cancelled mine. She posted on Facebook a few weeks later of all the exact places on where she said she wanted to go. I'm still very good friends with her but clearly would not have been if we actually went on our trip.

9 pm on a weekend night this girl is in BKK. Maybe she doesn't get up there often and wanted to party and all you wanted to do was lay around inside a hotel room. Maybe she wanted to go to gogo and ladyboy bars to get horned up then give you the night of your life. Maybe she just wasn't having fun with you.

I don't get it, she left you in your hotel room alone and then you let her back in the room later that night or in the morning? I would have packed up her shit, gave it to reception in the lobby, and checked out. If I were feeling generous I would have left 140 baht for her to take the bus back to Pattaya. Then book a second room and go to Thermae and bang 3 different girls before they close.

As for how to respond? Clearly I broke off my relationship with her last night so there is no need to think of how to move forward with her.[/QUOTE]There is no relationship other than customer / bargirl. I pay 2000 baht for Long Time. Unless the lady runs off, then I pay zero.

If you barfine ladies while looking for a girlfriend, you are dead already.

If I were cruel and stupid, I would have advised her to borrow money from the guy she slept with the night before. But I live in Pattaya and will likely run into her again.

As to why I didn't pack up her stuff, first off, I didn't know if she would come back in an hour or the next day. So I just went to sleep. I had just come back from a holiday on Koh Lipe with 2 ladies, so I was pretty tired and fucked out.

Last note: this lady asked to borrow money because she had an emergency. Her rent was due. As if she didn't know that a week ago. By far, the major emergency for bar girls is a sudden demand from their Thai boyfriends for cash.

I sometimes look for a mongering location comprable or better than Pattaya. No luck so far.

The 1,000 baht ST /2,000 baht Long Time structure in Pattaya seems cheaper than just about anywhere in the world right now.

Someone will inevitably claim that Tijuana, Mexico (2000 peso ST at Hong Kong bar) or Colombia ($120ST) is better, but they are dreaming. I used to go to Kuala Lumpur, but that scene has dried up.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2841561]P.S. Baitoey still in Bar. Not bought out if there is such a Thing. They aren't Slaves. [/QUOTE]Who what where is Baitoey?

How is Bolt these days? Back to normal quick availability? Prices still cheap?

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2841760]Who what where is Baitoey?[/QUOTE]Playpen.

I'm having 2nd thoughts. She kind of small. Not a fan of her Hair Style. Hahahaha.

Bro the entire city is happening, don't lock yourself up for a particular soi or area. I recommend just walk around and wherever you see nice pussy stop drink enjoy and barfine her / them. Where else do you get this but Pattaya. Opportunities are in plenty!

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2841281]Great report.

What bars or street do you recommend visiting?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2841276]I can never understand why people compare prices in their home country, or Dubai for example to Pattaya. The average wages and cost of living are worlds apart.

Its true that it is only a 500 baht difference but once everyone accepts that, then they will ask for 2500 then 3000 and so on.[/QUOTE]Yes, and that is exactly what has happened. Still som guys want to show off, don't care or can't help themselves comparing with thier own country even if they just vought a flight ticket for 2000 USD (minimum).

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841753]I sometimes look for a mongering location comprable or better than Pattaya. No luck so far.

The 1,000 baht ST /2,000 baht Long Time structure in Pattaya seems cheaper than just about anywhere in the world right now.

Someone will inevitably claim that Tijuana, Mexico (2000 peso ST at Hong Kong bar) or Colombia ($120ST) is better, but they are dreaming. I used to go to Kuala Lumpur, but that scene has dried up.[/QUOTE]You don't have to pay 120 USD for ST in Colombia. That is just bullshit for morons that can't bother to negotiate och check local prices. Complete bullshit! Its something like 30 USD.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841753]I sometimes look for a mongering location comprable or better than Pattaya. No luck so far.

The 1,000 baht ST /2,000 baht Long Time structure in Pattaya seems cheaper than just about anywhere in the world right now.

Someone will inevitably claim that Tijuana, Mexico (2000 peso ST at Hong Kong bar) or Colombia ($120ST) is better, but they are dreaming. I used to go to Kuala Lumpur, but that scene has dried up.[/QUOTE]HaHaaaa! Obviously quoting those rates, you haven't been to Mexico, Colombia, Cuba, Costa Rica, Brazil or in fact Europe lately or maybe ever.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841753]I sometimes look for a mongering location comprable or better than Pattaya. No luck so far.

The 1,000 baht ST /2,000 baht Long Time structure in Pattaya seems cheaper than just about anywhere in the world right now.

Someone will inevitably claim that Tijuana, Mexico (2000 peso ST at Hong Kong bar) or Colombia ($120ST) is better, but they are dreaming. I used to go to Kuala Lumpur, but that scene has dried up.[/QUOTE]The mongering in Sao Paulo is just as good IMHO, especially if you speak Portuguese.

Abbobora clinica has the best value mongering I've ever seen and the average Brasileira f*cks much better than the average Thai.

Apart from Sao Paulo, I agree with you though and as an overall destination, taking into account food, safety, amount of women etc, Thailand is definitely the best.

[QUOTE=David2;2841638][URL]https://hackspirit.com/signs-shes-not-into-you/[/URL][/QUOTE]The things written on this website cannot be applied in a paid relationship with a bargirl.

Of course she is not into him, she is into his money mostly and he knows it.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2841764]How is Bolt these days? Back to normal quick availability? Prices still cheap?[/QUOTE]Bolt is quick, but prices have gone up a little in the last few months.

Typical session for me:

Lady comes to my condo, and we drink. After a few shots of Tequila, she gets naked.

Like many ladies, she wants to talk about personal relationships, who is on drugs, who has a new boyfriend, why she left her Thai husband, a couple of hours of that.

Then, off to the bedroom. I usually will lick pussy to get them started. Most can't cum, but it wakes them up a bit. This one was a bit weird, since most ladies like it soft or hard, and sometimes soft and then hard. This one was okay with soft, and then started pushing my head down for hard, and then pulling it up for soft. When she realized she wasn't going to cum, she gave me a quick BJ and climbed on top for a quick fuck.

Since she's an older lady, Cowboy is not her best position, but I came quickly.

2000 baht for maybe 3 hours of drinking and fucking. Plus, she cleaned my kitchen.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2841764]How is Bolt these days? Back to normal quick availability? Prices still cheap?[/QUOTE]Quick, cheap, Reliable working normally.

If an extra 500-1000 THB helps me stand out from the rest of the crowd and (almost) guarantees me a better service in the room then I am happy to do so, everyday of the week and twice on the weekend.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2841038]Yes when you pay 2.5 K or 3.5 K for ST when others pay between 1 K and 1.5 K it seems quite logical that you won't have a problem.[/QUOTE]

Friend, I totally agree with you on this one. But when you spend €$300-500 in europe albeit for few hours and you can get the same in Thailand for a fraction of that my sense is, its wise to think again compare and go for the difference. Its nothing, BTW one is spending far less and not the other way around. Definitely far more satisfying for me.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2841276]I can never understand why people compare prices in their home country, or Dubai for example to Pattaya. The average wages and cost of living are worlds apart.

Its true that it is only a 500 baht difference but once everyone accepts that, then they will ask for 2500 then 3000 and so on.[/QUOTE]

Unimaginable.

4 girls on a Stage who would be absolute Superstars in Nana Plaza.

Instead they work in a side street on Walking Street.

I don't get it.

I mean one week in Nana they get 14 Barfines. In Current place maybe less than that- I just don't see them making much.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2841433]Guess we'll see you in his video.[/QUOTE]The Thai guy who gives out candy to the girls was given a bit of a stern warning from a farang who was passing by; warning him about including other guys in his videos who may not like the fact that they're showing up on vlog sites. It is getting a bit ridiculous how many cloggers you see walking the same routes every day, most showing nothing during daytime walks. The one Nightwish bar manager seems to encourage his inside "Seduction" bar. It may get messy on Soi 6 soon.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2841863]If an extra 500-1000 THB helps me stand out from the rest of the crowd and (almost) guarantees me a better service in the room then I am happy to do so, everyday of the week and twice on the weekend.[/QUOTE]Nope.

Extra money does not provide extra service.

In fact, you might get worse service because the bargirl thinks you are a sucker.

Koreans often pay 3000 baht for ST. You think they are getting better service?

I have ladies who work Korean bars come to my condo for 2000 baht LT. They want to fuck ass, and fuck long time. But they go with Koreans for short time, 3000 baht, 3 minutes.

And, of course, bargirls will go with older Thai men for 1,000 baht LT. Younger men are free.

I'm not saying I am anything special, just that paying more money does not provide more service.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2841793]The mongering in Sao Paulo is just as good IMHO, especially if you speak Portuguese.

Abbobora clinica has the best value mongering I've ever seen and the average Brasileira f*cks much better than the average Thai.

Apart from Sao Paulo, I agree with you though and as an overall destination, taking into account food, safety, amount of women etc, Thailand is definitely the best.[/QUOTE]I have been to Sao Paolo many times, and can speak Portuguese.

Can you really get decent women in Sao Paolo for 200 reais ST? I get quoted 350+ all the time.

[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2841276]I can never understand why people compare prices in their home country..... to Pattaya......[/QUOTE]We must always remember to factor in the cost of airline tickets and hotel accommodation which we do not have to pay in our home country.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841937]I have been to Sao Paolo many times, and can speak Portuguese.

Can you really get decent women in Sao Paolo for 200 reais ST? I get quoted 350+ all the time.[/QUOTE]Prime, Enjoy, Tangara, Yankin, Miruna I believe are all around that price range for 30 minutes.

Thats just the ones I've been too, there's loads more that are cheaper.

Don't want to hijack this thread with loads of Sao Paulo posts though.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841937]I have been to Sao Paolo many times, and can speak Portuguese.

Can you really get decent women in Sao Paolo for 200 reais ST? I get quoted 350+ all the time.[/QUOTE]Yes definitely at Clinicas but not outcall to your room.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2841863]If an extra 500-1000 THB helps me stand out from the rest of the crowd and (almost) guarantees me a better service in the room then I am happy to do so, everyday of the week and twice on the weekend.[/QUOTE]I have never understood people that say this. In order for this to be even remotely true you would have had to do testing. Was there a time when you were paying 500-1000 baht less and the service was constantly worse, then you started paying the higher amount and the service got better? Usually the answer is no and people just assume that since they pay more the service is better. You are not standing out from any crowds. The first guy that comes into contact with the girl and agrees on a price is gone with her. She is not waiting around for anyone to stand out from everybody else that is also paying the amount she will accept. You talk as if the guys are in a lineup and placing bids and the girl is choosing the highest one to make the sale to.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2841909]Unimaginable.

4 girls on a Stage who would be absolute Superstars in Nana Plaza.

Instead they work in a side street on Walking Street.

I don't get it.

I mean one week in Nana they get 14 Barfines. In Current place maybe less than that- I just don't see them making much.[/QUOTE]Agree! 20 girls outside the bar and only six seats in the whole bar. Nightwish bars can absorb some losses because they have plenty of bars on the Soi to rotate the girls. The others, not so much. I'the like to see their books!

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2841774]Playpen.

I'm having 2nd thoughts. She kind of small. Not a fan of her Hair Style. Hahahaha.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.instagram.com/playpenbarpattayasoi6/[/URL]

Which girl is she?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2841939]We must always remember to factor in the cost of airline tickets and hotel accommodation which we do not have to pay in our home country.[/QUOTE]I feel, unless you are in Thailand or SEA already, then the plane ticket and hotels can't really be lumped together in the same cost of getting a girl.

Sure $2000 for a ticket and hotel, but what if you only see five girls at 1000 thb each? And decide you don't need to eat at all during your stay (but that's another thing)? Do you say that you spent 5 k thb / $140 on 5 girls? Or do you say you spent $2140 on five girls?

Girls and girls, travel is travel. You need to travel to see the girls, but you really can't compare the two. There's also the fact that it is. Well, travel too.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842022][URL]https://www.instagram.com/playpenbarpattayasoi6/[/URL]

[/QUOTE]I like the girl with the butterfly tattoo on her chest.

I've seen her on the live stream a few times, wonder if anyone on the forum has banged her.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842022][URL]https://www.instagram.com/playpenbarpattayasoi6/[/URL]

Which girl is she?[/QUOTE]1. Top Left. Looks bigger in this shot. In person she so Teeny Tiny.

2. I can't believe Koreans are after old Bargirls with 20 year old kiddos.

3. One night Jacks. The old Pascha.

What looks like a newbie Chocolate Man. Boy was he being skooled in Lady Drinks. Hahaha. He buys a drink for a girl. Then the Shot girl comes around,. His girl says she wants a Shot, ok he gets one. Then the girl say the 2 Shot servers need Shots, ok. Then the Mommas are thirsty too. Then the servers. Then the mascot Cat wanted one too.

That done. The Mama were in what looked like negotiations, maybe a Barfine or maybe selling him a piece of the Bar.

How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2842032]Do you say that you spent 5 k thb / $140 on 5 girls? Or do you say you spent $2140 on five girls?

Girls and girls, travel is travel.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Do you turn down a job offer because you need to buy a car, gas, and pay insurance in order to work? Do you subtract that amount and say well it costs me this much money to work?

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2841863]If an extra 500-1000 THB helps me stand out from the rest of the crowd and (almost) guarantees me a better service in the room then I am happy to do so, everyday of the week and twice on the weekend.[/QUOTE]Dude, if you don't mind throwing money down the drain, Phuket gogos would be the place for you! The girls are stunning and will ask you for up to 10 k baht including drinks, so you can really feel good when spending that amount of money. Plenty of high spenders like you there, so you guys can all try to outspend each other and see who will take the most expensive girl home.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]Almost every single guy I know! You can't think there's any other reason to visit places like Phnom Penh, Jakarta, Saigon, Thailand more than once. Oh, I have a group of guys who go to Thailand to golf every single year. They're leaving one of the nicest golf areas in the world with world class golf courses and telling their wives they are going to golf in 45 Celsius heat.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2842044]1. Top Left. Looks bigger in this shot. In person she so Teeny Tiny.[/QUOTE]This girl? She's easily the best one. Does she DFK well?

How could you turn this down for 1400 baht? Only on Gaito or one of the bars in Jakarta would you find a better deal.

From my recollection changing money from USD to BHT in money exchange produced more favorite rate than taking them from ATM.

1) is it still the case?

2) do they accept $100 bills or it would require 20's.

Thank you!

Hahahahahaha well then I am an exception, I always make sure I get top service if I end up with extra 500-1000 TBH. You should know Indians are far better than Koreans to get their money's worth and are of course better deal makers as well.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2841935]Nope.

Extra money does not provide extra service.

In fact, you might get worse service because the bargirl thinks you are a sucker.

Koreans often pay 3000 baht for ST. You think they are getting better service?

I have ladies who work Korean bars come to my condo for 2000 baht LT. They want to fuck ass, and fuck long time. But they go with Koreans for short time, 3000 baht, 3 minutes.

And, of course, bargirls will go with older Thai men for 1,000 baht LT. Younger men are free.

I'm not saying I am anything special, just that paying more money does not provide more service.[/QUOTE]

Mr E, well when I say spend TBH 500-1000 extra it doesn't mean handing over the extra cash. It means not being a cheap charlie and use the extra cash to serve them lady drinks, pay for taxi, give them a gift. Honestly it has worked well for me in the past in other destinations. Worked well for me again when I was in Pattaya. Try it yourself once and see the results. When I have met indies its nice to start on a good note, helps build the evening. Cheers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2841991]I have never understood people that say this. In order for this to be even remotely true you would have had to do testing. Was there a time when you were paying 500-1000 baht less and the service was constantly worse, then you started paying the higher amount and the service got better? Usually the answer is no and people just assume that since they pay more the service is better. You are not standing out from any crowds. The first guy that comes into contact with the girl and agrees on a price is gone with her. She is not waiting around for anyone to stand out from everybody else that is also paying the amount she will accept. You talk as if the guys are in a lineup and placing bids and the girl is choosing the highest one to make the sale to.[/QUOTE]

The IG accounts are great, but in reality I rarely see any of the girls from IG at the bar. I've been to Soi 6 the past 3 days looking for specific girls from Playpen and Desire. They are not there. What am I missing?

[QUOTE=YuriB;2842101]From my recollection changing money from USD to BHT in money exchange produced more favorite rate than taking them from ATM.

1) is it still the case?

2) do they accept $100 bills or it would require 20's.

Thank you![/QUOTE]If you are exchanging in Pattaya, from my research and experience plenty are located on Soi Buakhow yellow shacks T&T, they are pretty much set rates throughout except the one located at Big see Extra which is slightly lower. There is one not know the name but it is between Treetown and Soi Diana, it is a Green shack not one of the banks but independent I noticed this shack is slightly lower but not so low I would walk in the hot sun to get it.

Personally don't bring Twenties bring one hundred so they don't get kicked back they pretty much have to be in real good condition like new, Bens picture needs to be cleared and only new addition they will kick back the old 100'S.

[QUOTE=YuriB;2842101]From my recollection changing money from USD to BHT in money exchange produced more favorite rate than taking them from ATM.

1) is it still the case?

2) do they accept $100 bills or it would require 20's.

Thank you![/QUOTE]Withdrawing from the ATM and declining the conversion should yield you the best rate. Just find a bank account that will refund you ATM fees.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842076]This girl? She's easily the best one. Does she DFK well?

How could you turn this down for 1400 baht? Only on Gaito or one of the bars in Jakarta would you find a better deal.[/QUOTE]It seems like she said she want 1. 5 K for her so it's at least 1. 9 K to get her.

When you see her on video she looks very childish and small, I wouldn't consider her personnaly.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2842123]The IG accounts are great, but in reality I rarely see any of the girls from IG at the bar. I've been to Soi 6 the past 3 days looking for specific girls from Playpen and Desire. They are not there. What am I missing?[/QUOTE]Go there in the afternoon, if you still can't find them come back at different times of the day.

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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2842123]The IG accounts are great, but in reality I rarely see any of the girls from IG at the bar. I've been to Soi 6 the past 3 days looking for specific girls from Playpen and Desire. They are not there. What am I missing?[/QUOTE]Playpen Baitoey is there and so is her Chubby friend, the one we all saw on the Korean Boys Livestream recently.

Desire Star Fon is downstairs now and then,. Rating 3 or 4 (on a good hair day). Priew can be called down if you buy her drinks, don't know if minimums are required.

Other desire Livestream girls no where near the quality of Priew can be seen downstairs, who- don't know I just recognize them by face.

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[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2842123]The IG accounts are great, but in reality I rarely see any of the girls from IG at the bar. I've been to Soi 6 the past 3 days looking for specific girls from Playpen and Desire. They are not there. What am I missing?[/QUOTE]If the photos are more than 2 weeks old there is a good chance that the girl is no longer there, especially if she's hot. Recruited by a Thai karaoke bar, led by a white knight to a gogo bar, scooped up for 2 weeks by a guy seeking a GF, or hooked her Sponsor(s) already. Always look at the date of the photos. Even if they were just posted it may just be an old photo. At least I see you know that these girls can work under any of the sister clubs too. Show some of the Nightwish girls this is the girl you're seeking and you may find her or at least figure out she hasn't been on Soi 6 for months.

Personally I rarely look at IG and FB of these bars. Curiosity just got the better of me so I Google'd Playpen Soi 6 for a photo of Baitoey. I prefer to walk in the hot sun and hope and pray I find something even close to a girl I would go with.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]Most of the countries I've travelled to I would not have visited if it wasn't for the sex.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842076]This girl? She's easily the best one. Does she DFK well?

How could you turn this down for 1400 baht? Only on Gaito or one of the bars in Jakarta would you find a better deal.[/QUOTE]I would bang her for 1400 baht if she does not have bad breath.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2842111]Hahahahahaha well then I am an exception, I always make sure I get top service if I end up with extra 500-1000 TBH. You should know Indians are far better than Koreans to get their money's worth and are of course better deal makers as well.[/QUOTE]Talking like you know it all but your acts don't backup your words.

Many on this forum said your strategy won't get you ahead of other punters and you still believe you know better.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]Me. At least within the past 3-4 years, the ability to get clean, sane, safe, non-gilf girls has gone down hill. No way will I ever justify spending $500 or more on a chubby girl who is nearly as old or older than me. Massage joints are ALL operated by grannies and they still want at least $100 for a handshake.

I started to monger shortly before covid killed everything. There were some nice girls in their 20's I saw, for reasonable prices. But then it all went down hill.

I find that spending a large lump sum on a plane ticket and hotel to go to Thailand, then spending what basically amounts to pocket change on girls, food and drink is by far a better value. Sure most of the months I'm living the normal life are dry and boring, but a trip to Thailand is not only for girls, but it is also a damn good vacation too.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]Well I never travel internationally just to have sex. When I travel I will always do non mongering things too like tours, sightseeing, trying food, hiking, boating, relaxing on the beach, ancient areas, culture, festivals and venues, meeting new friends, etc. Just traveling to only have sex is boring and can be disappointing. If you travel to another country and you don't even care to experience the culture or anything else the country has to offer other than mongering I find your reasoning very flawed and jaded. Probably a little narcissistic too.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2842134]When you see her on video she looks very childish and small, I wouldn't consider her personnaly.[/QUOTE]Is there a link to this video? I don't like it but I thought lots of guys like childish and small. Is she popular for rooms? My negative about her is she doesn't look busty.

Does anyone know where to buy Viagra or Cialis, for sure?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842289]Is there a link to this video? I don't like it but I thought lots of guys like childish and small. Is she popular for rooms? My negative about her is she doesn't look busty.[/QUOTE]I don't know much about her, never met her, but she said (in that stream from a few weeks ago) she is 18 and still student, and Chan Chalupa said she goes upstairs for 1,5 K (plus room which is 400 there), girl on the left at 1 hour 36 min.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF8bcg8CvyQ[/URL]

You can see her in today's stream too (though she doesn't look too childish in this one) at 1 hour 38 min 23 sec, the girl on the left again.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OWeSV7K3Y[/URL]

There are other videos where one can see her too but it's a pain in the ass to go and find them again.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842289]Is there a link to this video? I don't like it but I thought lots of guys like childish and small. Is she popular for rooms? My negative about her is she doesn't look busty.[/QUOTE]Trust me I've interacted with Baitoey for 5 seconds or so she is Small, very much so.

She doesn't speak English so how she acts is how she acts.

Bher 1,500 fee could be due to 2 possible reasons.

1 She had Triplets and has Baby Damage.

2. She is Flat like the Earth. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]I think it's basically impossible to travel for hours by plane just to have sex with the locals.

For me it's a (big) part of the fun, but I do like to know the country also. The food, festivals and so on.

Coming November I will travel to Buriram for a few days. Last April I was a few days in BKK. I don't like cramped cities but I wanted to visit the Palace and what Pho for a long time.

I did not do that before because of budget and (the lack of clear) possibilities. Now you have Grab and Bolt. Taxi's / Drivers can be ordered by Line.

And I my budget is way bigger now (just like my gut).

It was not just sex, but meeting other people. And having fun.

Although, I sometimes go to Germany by car to visit a FKK. But even then I will do some shopping which is way way cheaper than in the Netherlands.

But in my opinion that's something completely different.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]When I was younger and hornier and the Asia scene was 10 X cheaper and 10 X better, I did on occasion fly all the way from the US for a fuck fest. But mostly they would be side trips to Thailand or Philippines while I was in Asia anyways for business. I have done touristy Thailand with wives, kids and friends. My solo trips are mostly about fucking now, although if I can get in some diving as well that's a plus.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]Not me. Choosing Thailand is based on the totality of what is offered, P4P is just a part of it. Though I must admit that without P4P I would probably seek another destination. Excluding my international flights, the girls represent about 30-35% of my vacation budget. The remaining 65-70% goes to Thai business such as hotels, restaurants, street food, bars, medical, domestic travel, and touring.

Other key reasons for choosing Thailand are the affordable prices of nice hotels and resorts, the congeniality of the Thai people (nearly all of them), plus the ease of meeting interesting farang to spend time.

[QUOTE=Garoto;2842291]Does anyone know where to buy Viagra or Cialis, for sure?[/QUOTE]Vloggers attest that a pharmacy on Second Road by Tim's Boutique hotel sell it. That would be near Soi 10. Green sign.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]Most places I visited was NOT 4 P4 P. But just happened to find it there also (Berlin, USA etc). For Thailand its a big different. Its not JUST P4 P but the fact its a great holiday destination as a solo-traveler. People are friendly, hotel / food is cheap as fuck. Basically 2 weeks in Europe will cost me about the same as flying 12 hours to Thailand.

If it would be JUST for P4 P. A lot cheaper to go Germany for most Europeans.

It appears this guy was standing out with a chick that he just left the disco with at 4:30 am. He did not want to share his catch with fellow countrymen, so they kicked his ass and broke his arm.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/08/09/indian-tourist-in-pattaya-injured-in-a-brawl-with-fellow-indian-nationals-over-a-thai-woman/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]I've taken jobs specifically because they afforded the opportunity to travel all over the world, with a heavy rotation in typical mongering spots. As a result, I have visited, for business, 5 of 6 inhabited continents and fucked my way across 4 of them.

Personally, I have taken holidays alone or with a close buddy specifically to visit mongering destinations. Costa Rica. Montreal. Dominican Republic. Spain. Germany. Hungary. Czechia. Thailand. Indonesia. Vietnam. Philippines.

[QUOTE=Garoto;2842291]Does anyone know where to buy Viagra or Cialis, for sure?[/QUOTE]Walk down Soi Honey, when you get to Soi Buakhow, take a left, and you will see people on the street selling Kamagra and the like.

Most of my trips have been for sex mongering only. Culture food drinks weather vacation golf comes second and I have repeated regularly over the years. So much so I've ear marked 40-50 % of my salary for mongering purposes.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842165]At least I see you know that these girls can work under any of the sister clubs too.[/QUOTE]Are you (or anybody else) aware of any rules about that?

I've seen recently some bars have recruited some new girls and some of their previous staff have moved to another NW bar a few meters away, sometimes even the adjacent bar.

They don't look like trouble makers so I ruled out the odd problem with the managment. One could think they cannot compete with the other girls of the bar but they are far from being the ugliest of the place too and they were working in that bar for some months already, the only thing that I think of is they were too picky and finally couldn't bring in enough lady drinks for the bar (they're not the kind to jump on every guy that past in front of the place) or the new place they work for is short of staff (but it doesn't look like that).

[QUOTE=Garoto;2842291]Does anyone know where to buy Viagra or Cialis[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2842619]Walk down Soi Honey, when you get to Soi Buakhow, take a left, and you will see people on the street selling Kamagra and the like.[/QUOTE]Many drug stores in the area sell Kamagra. I'd rather buy from a drug store since many medications lose its effectiveness when not kept near room temperature. I personally have not looked into the effects of heat on Kamagra and similar meds so maybe someone can let me know if the chemicals in the pill are not affected by 40 Celsius weather.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2842590]It appears this guy was standing out with a chick that he just left the disco with at 4:30 am. He did not want to share his catch with fellow countrymen, so they kicked his ass and broke his arm.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/08/09/indian-tourist-in-pattaya-injured-in-a-brawl-with-fellow-indian-nationals-over-a-thai-woman/[/URL][/QUOTE]Lately, Thai news are broadcasting many problems with tourists (the Kuwaitis are in the news everyday, the Spanish guy on Phan-gnan, Indians fighting each others.).

Let's hope they don't take these incidents as pretext to tighten the visa rules again.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2842619]Walk down Soi Honey, when you get to Soi Buakhow, take a left, and you will see people on the street selling Kamagra and the like.[/QUOTE]There is a pharmacy on Soi Honey that sells Kamagra for 1200 baht / box of 50.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842289]Is there a link to this video? I don't like it but I thought lots of guys like childish and small. Is she popular for rooms? My negative about her is she doesn't look busty.[/QUOTE]Don't even bother she looks like she's asians only.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2842055]How many of you guys travel across the world just to have sex and for no other reason than that?[/QUOTE]My trip to Thailand will be my first trip where fucking prostitutes is my main goal. But I am going to meeting good friends there and would not have gone just on my own. But the chance to visit that part of the world and chill with my boys is a once in a lifetime opportunity that I could not pass up. Otherwise I like to keep my flight times down to 2 -3 hours max.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2842713]Don't even bother she looks like she's asians only.[/QUOTE]How can you be sure without asking her in person?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2842590]It appears this guy was standing out with a chick that he just left the disco with at 4:30 am. He did not want to share his catch with fellow countrymen, so they kicked his ass and broke his arm.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/08/09/indian-tourist-in-pattaya-injured-in-a-brawl-with-fellow-indian-nationals-over-a-thai-woman/[/URL][/QUOTE]It is customary in that country to share everything, including women. The wife might be off-limits. But I'm not 100% sure about that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2842590]It appears this guy was standing out with a chick that he just left the disco with at 4:30 am. He did not want to share his catch with fellow countrymen, so they kicked his ass and broke his arm.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2023/08/09/indian-tourist-in-pattaya-injured-in-a-brawl-with-fellow-indian-nationals-over-a-thai-woman/[/URL][/QUOTE]About the dumbest thing a guy can do in Pattaya is fight over a girl LOL. There happens to be thousands on offer and you're fighting over one. Dumb af.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2842737]How can you be sure without asking her in person?[/QUOTE]I asked her in person yesterday at 4:30 pm. I had two drinks with her, took a couple of pictures, but she would not do ST with me because I'm American. She waits for Korean men.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2842678]Many drug stores in the area sell Kamagra. I'd rather buy from a drug store since many medications lose its effectiveness when not kept near room temperature. I personally have not looked into the effects of heat on Kamagra and similar meds so maybe someone can let me know if the chemicals in the pill are not affected by 40 Celsius weather.[/QUOTE]+1 on the go to the drug store recommendation. A few years ago I could not believe the "great deal" available on a box of Kamagra jellies on Sukhumvit in BKK. 50% of the price I pay in Europe for even more. I bought a large box. That night took two out and when I had selected my favourite in Thermae decided to head to the gents to take one of the two new Kamagras I had taken out.

Instead of that nice feeling of warmth / glow that comes after taking ED medication normally around 10 minutes after digestion, instead I got nothing but a blinding headache. Back to the room and it go so intense I could not think of sex. Paid the girl off without her even undressing and quickly got to a pharmacy for strong headache paracetamol which cured it. Immediately compared the Kamagra in the box to the remaining 5 sachets I had brought from London. The copy print on the sachet was pretty good to an unsuspecting eye. Then I started to notice differences in font, size, and even some spelling mistakes. Took the rest of the box back next day and tried to protest that they were fake and dangerous and that there was something else in them. Vendor almost laughed at me, told me "everything here in Thailand is fake. Do you think that Rolex on the next stand for 800 baht is real?" he was brazen and suggested I call the police. It was tempting because I have no doubt these are not the real product but I really doubted that a Thai officer would side with me over the local. Chalked it down to experience. God only knows what I put in my body that night but it was not pleasant. I offered to sell him the box back (less the one I had taken). He offered me 50% of my cash back. Great deal for him as he could then sell it again to another idiot like I had been.

So. As BB correctly advised. Don't buy ED drugs off the street. Go to a pharmacy. Cheap enough in the LOS.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2842845]....A few years ago I could not believe the "great deal" available on a box of Kamagra jellies on Sukhumvit in BKK.[/QUOTE]I also had bad experience with Sukhumvit street vendor Kamagra jellies. Some packets worked and others didn't. I noticed that some packets seemed larger than other, so when I got home I weighed them on my laboratory scale. There was a substantial difference in weight from one packet to the next. I gave a friend a few packets and he was not satisfied and said: "they packed a wallop!" I must have given him some of the overfilled packets.

I bring all my ED meds from USA, they are plenty cheap now and USA generics are reliable.

Allow me to explain since they are from my country, they are assholes:

1. petty minded and scumbags.

2. international travel exposure is nil.

3. uneducated / illiterate class.

4. probably drunk, most Indians can't handle alcohol and make a fool of themselves.

5. this guy must be flaunting his chick to his friends not realizing there are millions there.

6. never seen such kind of an atmosphere, in thailand its out in the open and in your face.

One or more of the above could be reasons for the streetfight.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2842750]About the dumbest thing a guy can do in Pattaya is fight over a girl LOL. There happens to be thousands on offer and you're fighting over one. Dumb af.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2842750]About the dumbest thing a guy can do in Pattaya is fight over a girl LOL. There happens to be thousands on offer and you're fighting over one. Dumb af.[/QUOTE]They are not fighting over a girl. The girl is irrelevant. They are angry at the guy for not sharing. They beat him up because they think he is being selfish.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2842681]Lately, Thai news are broadcasting many problems with tourists (the Kuwaitis are in the news everyday, the Spanish guy on Phan-gnan, Indians fighting each others.).

Let's hope they don't take these incidents as pretext to tighten the visa rules again.[/QUOTE]Sadly, hope I'm wrong on this one. But I'm one who thinks and feel these leaders are some of the stupidest MF on the face of this earth. I say that because I haven't been to much places as many of you so it is easy for me to narrow it down. Saying their thinking is backward would be doing them a favor. If I was ever given the opportunity to get them in the room I would tell it to them in their face and then put them out of their miserable life that would surely do their people a big favor and save them from having more fake ass elections.

You know Big Joke, his dad knew exactly how to name the idiot due to all the farang chopping up cases he hates farangs now making a recommendation to change the Immigration extension for expats saying putting only 800,000 in a bank is too easy for us that is the reason for all the gangs and problems. See facing the truth isn't part of these guys' DNA, the true problems all exist because of their greed for corruption. Their biggest problem has always been the so call agents who circumvent the process by providing a stack of passports each morning on Window 8, and a large brown envelope.

This last year even before all the problems the last ten years fellow brothers from Hong Kong and Mainland China Triads have been pouring money into this country and economy prior to Covid they were laundering money to develop Condos in the Bang Na area along with the Taiwanese. After Covid, a young and stupid broke the cardinal rule of the Triads don't stand yourself out. He took over a venue back of Central Marina Big Eye, paid the boys on Soi 9, and Bunglamung police an amount they couldn't refuse brought in his own Chinese staff, drugs, and gambling.

This was nothing new Bangkok has already been taken over by the Traids along with 35 out of 72 of their provinces, Big Snitch Chuwit former MP couldn't take it that he no longer had any influence like most Thais they are very patriotic so he started to snitch on everyone that brought all the attention. They had no choice it was out they raided the place shit hit the fan it was big news 6 months ago so big goes so far to the top it is getting swept under the rug.

So like most Asian countries, it is " the art of the war "that distract with all the stories and problem foreigners are creating it is them they are dirty sounds familiar Covid exist because of the dirty farangs. All they got to do is look in the mirror where the problems are created.

You can buy ED stuff all over the place like on Sukhumvit in Bangkok, years back I brought a small box to compare with one I got at a Pharmacy the box itself is printed pretty close to one or another. Even if you buy at a pharmacy you might not be getting the real thing I compared the boxes it is pretty darn good. Personally, I don't have the balls to any from the streets although as mentioned the guy and lady on Soi Buakhao, just outside the entrance to Purple Sawasdee Hotel the lady who I converse with a bit told me it is real but black market not copies.

I use to buy from the pharmacy as mentioned on Second Rd, next to the Avenue, this place is noted to sell steroids to bodybuilders way before covid and Viagra they got busted after every time I went in they gave me a hard time thinking I was a ghost cop for the BIB. Then they wouldn't see me just a few packs I had to buy cases I have no problem admitting I'm no stud, a case are you kidding!

My go-to place for years now, a pharmacy on Soi Buakhao just past Soi 15, Soi Boomerang, there is a 7/11 at the corner right next to it is a pharmacy. I just buy Kamagra Gel, in what they call a party pack of 5-6 for 250 baht. Other pharmacies have tried to sell exactly the same for 450-500 baht their standard line can't too low. Although I haven't I stood and waited behind others who have purchased Viagra.

Good luck fellas.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2842777]I asked her in person yesterday at 4:30 pm. I had two drinks with her, took a couple of pictures, but she would not do ST with me because I'm American. She waits for Korean men.[/QUOTE]I went back a bit to try to research the Bar on Soi 6, but didn't notice it, she is a bit too young for me but maybe I'm in luck, I'm Chinese American but I can play whatever they want me to be to get what I want if I want it? Maybe I'm in luck? Someone mentioned flat-chested doesn't bother me.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2842750]About the dumbest thing a guy can do in Pattaya is fight over a girl LOL. There happens to be thousands on offer and you're fighting over one. Dumb af.[/QUOTE]Sunday, I was in a restless mood so I hopped on the bike and did my restless cruise all over town, Soi 6, up and down the beach road, Soi 7,8, Soi Buakhao, Soi Pothole, LK, ended up at W. S. From beginning to end. Stopped at IIVY, Fehrenhelt, Pin Up, came up the drums were banging Jaanut? Standing there was not my thing but the girls going in Man every chick entering had some of the biggest asses I have ever seen ever in Pattaya talking about Montana mules with saddle bags. I'm no fan of Indian or MidEastern places standing there watching the drums banging the barkers just stirred at me like saying back up, old man? I would never stay long in a place like that cause the stink BO just from the barkers had my head spinning! I walked further down to Panda, being Asian they wanted me to go upstairs I decline, Tony hasn't changed still the same crowd going in walked up Soi 16,15 years ago use to have some bang-up places now the walk through Soi 16, was in a whole different world.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2842999]I went back a bit to try to research the Bar on Soi 6, but didn't notice it,[/QUOTE]Playpen bar on soi 6.

A tall beautiful 20 y / o Isaan girl with no baby called me into Butterfly Bar. It was very lively because of a birthday party. Every table was occupied except 1. Suddenly, a girl pulled the horn and it was Pattayablack. The girls lined up and drank their shots (at least 25). He focused the camera on the birthday girl while she danced for an hour. I walked on down to Foxy because there is a girl there that enthusiastically deep throats. I needed another round with her to make sure I don't have any regrets when back home when I have daydreams and flashbacks.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2842777]I asked her in person yesterday at 4:30 pm. I had two drinks with her, took a couple of pictures, but she would not do ST with me because I'm American. She waits for Korean men.[/QUOTE]She actually told you that she is waiting for Korean men? Assuming that she did, I'm guessing that she's implying young Korean men.

People don't bother to write stories these days. Yes, I'm complaining.

Anyway, this is Lady Love story time.

I barfined this girl at Lady Love Agogo in LK Metro. #43 in the photo. The girl with the chest tattoo. (But #14 is also cute.) #43 Her name is Two. I guess her older sister's name is One. Since Lady Love agogo is very popular, I guess many members here will recognize Two.

Two tells me that she wants to be barfined by me. Actually, her English is not that good. I tell her we go to Walking Street first and then boom boom in my hotel. She agrees. I pay her barfine and we head to Soi Buakhao and get on a Baht bus. Two then opens her handbag, pulls out two ten Baht coins for the fare, and gives them to me.

When we reach Walking Street, we try to enter Palace agogo. But the security guard won't let us in. Later I would learn that Palace agogo does not let couples in. They want single guys who buy lots of lady drinks and barfine a lady or two. So we go to XS agogo. They let us in. It was a lot of fun drinking in XS with a girl I brought. I didn't feel pressure to do something that I did not want to do. But now I hear XS also does not allow couples in.

Next, we go to Insomnia Club. That's the one on the upper floor for those who are confused. It's packed inside. Maybe we stayed at Insomnia too long because when we get back to my hotel, it is close to 3 am. I take a shower first. When I finish my shower, I tell Two to take a shower. She refuses. She actually says that she is going home. But since she's lying down on the bed, I take the opportunity to DFK her. Then I manage to stick my dick in her mouth. I kind of get a blowjob for about ten seconds. Then she gets up and says she's leaving again. She utters "motortaxi" about two or three times. I think she wants taxi fare. With no reaction from me, Two just leaves.

The next day, I go back to Lady Love. I don't know why. When I enter, I see Two sitting down with a customer. Two says something to the guy and the guy looks at me. Then he says something to her and looks at me again. Then, in submission, he motions to me that Two will sit with me. About a minute later, Two comes over and sits next to me. I like it when the girl ditches the guy she is sitting with and comes to sit with me. And I didn't even call her over. I feel it is power that I never yearned for. I tell Two let's go to Walking Street again. Of course, she's not going to say no. I'm paying her barfine again.

We go to Insomnia again and later we end up in Muzzik Cafe. The speakers are Muzzik are way too loud. Drinking with a decent girl in Walking Street is quite fun, as long as the girl is not expensive. But it would be a nightmare with a demanding girl. It's almost 3 am. Now, I don't need to fuck her. It would add nothing to my life. Also, I don't want to fuck a girl whose Thai husband is impatiently waiting for her. Yes, I'm 100% sure that Two has a Thai husband. I spent a lot of time with her on two consecutive nights. I can feel she's worried about getting home too late. I can also sense her painful cries for help. But I'm not going to get into that today. I'm not Batman. I'm only a Baht-Man.

I give her 1,000 baht for her time. But she doesn't want to accept it. So I open her handbag and put it inside. I walk her to a motorbike stand and make sure she grabs one and watch her leave. I walk all the way to my hotel near Soi Chaiyapoon, loveless and penniless. That is the story of many guys in Pattaya.

Next time, I go to Lady Love, I'm going to barfine Two's friend and fuck the friend. Fuck Walking Street next time.

Classic bargirl story:

Some lonely man fell in love with a bargirl, gave her a monthly stipend of 30,000 baht and paid for a house for her. He shows up every few months for 2 weeks.

Meanwhile, the bargirl continues to work bar and go with customers. And now another customer bought out her contract, and she is staying in his condo indefinitely (no, it's not me).

The problem is her sponsor is coming next week, but she can't leave the current customer.

Meanwhile, she loves another customer, but fortunately, his wife stops him from coming to Thailand.

Not that this lady is a 10, I wouldn't look at her twice. It's just that there are so many lonely men who lose their minds if a lady talks to them.

Don't be a lonely guy. There are 25,000 bargirls in Pattaya, try fucking a dozen on your next trip, not just one.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843173]She actually told you that she is waiting for Korean men? Assuming that she did, I'm guessing that she's implying young Korean men.[/QUOTE]You do understand Baitoey is a Working girl. Older the Better.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843192]Classic bargirl story:

Some lonely man fell in love with a bargirl, gave her a monthly stipend of 30,000 baht and paid for a house for her. He shows up every few months for 2 weeks.

Meanwhile, the bargirl continues to work bar and go with customers. And now another customer bought out her contract, and she is staying in his condo indefinitely (no, it's not me).

The problem is her sponsor is coming next week, but she can't leave the current customer.

Meanwhile, she loves another customer, but fortunately, his wife stops him from coming to Thailand.

Not that this lady is a 10, I wouldn't look at her twice. It's just that there are so many lonely men who lose their minds if a lady talks to them.

Don't be a lonely guy. There are 25,000 bargirls in Pattaya, try fucking a dozen on your next trip, not just one.[/QUOTE]SUSPENDAS on Kick stream platform.

Ugly AZZ Bargirl. He in over $75,000 in 4 months.

In process of buying $75,000 house. It's said he put down $15,000 and applied for mortgage. Sounds not right but who knows.

Is it real or staged. You make the call. Looks real to me.

P.S. Mommy goes everywhere with Bargirl Daughter and SUS. Appears to be making sure SUS doesn't find another Bargirl.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843188]People don't bother to write stories these days. Yes, I'm complaining.

Anyway, this is Lady Love story time.

I barfined this girl at Lady Love Agogo in LK Metro. #43 in the photo. The girl with the chest tattoo. (But #14 is also cute.) #43 Her name is Two. I guess her older sister's name is One. Since Lady Love agogo is very popular, I guess many members here will recognize Two.

Two tells me that she wants to be barfined by me. Actually, her English is not that good. I tell her we go to Walking Street first and then boom boom in my hotel. She agrees. I pay her barfine and we head to Soi Buakhao and get on a Baht bus. Two then opens her handbag, pulls out two ten Baht coins for the fare, and gives them to me.

When we reach Walking Street, we try to enter Palace agogo. But the security guard won't let us in. Later I would learn that Palace agogo does not let couples in. They want single guys who buy lots of lady drinks and barfine a lady or two. So we go to XS agogo. They let us in. It was a lot of fun drinking in XS with a girl I brought. I didn't feel pressure to do something that I did not want to do. But now I hear XS also does not allow couples in.

Next, we go to Insomnia Club. That's the one on the upper floor for those who are confused. It's packed inside. Maybe we stayed at Insomnia too long because when we get back to my hotel, it is close to 3 am. I take a shower first. When I finish my shower, I tell Two to take a shower. She refuses. She actually says that she is going home. But since she's lying down on the bed, I take the opportunity to DFK her. Then I manage to stick my dick in her mouth. I kind of get a blowjob for about ten seconds. Then she gets up and says she's leaving again. She utters "motortaxi" about two or three times. I think she wants taxi fare. With no reaction from me, Two just leaves..[/QUOTE]Why are you barfining a girl and taking her to walking street to party instead of taking her to your room and smashing? Makes no sense.

You're wasting your time and hers. And you get nothing out of it but a wasted night and blue balls.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843192]Classic bargirl story:

Some lonely man fell in love with a bargirl, gave her a monthly stipend of 30,000 baht and paid for a house for her. He shows up every few months for 2 weeks.

Meanwhile, the bargirl continues to work bar and go with customers. And now another customer bought out her contract, and she is staying in his condo indefinitely (no, it's not me).

The problem is her sponsor is coming next week, but she can't leave the current customer.

Meanwhile, she loves another customer, but fortunately, his wife stops him from coming to Thailand.

Not that this lady is a 10, I wouldn't look at her twice. It's just that there are so many lonely men who lose their minds if a lady talks to them.

Don't be a lonely guy. There are 25,000 bargirls in Pattaya, try fucking a dozen on your next trip, not just one.[/QUOTE]I have no sympathy for guys that get played like this. Perhaps they enjoy being put in such an emasculated position? I don't know. Pattaya is for one thing and that is exchange of $ for boom boom; generally speaking one can say the same for all of Thailand. Don't be the moron that falls in love with a bar girl.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843188]People don't bother to write stories these days. Yes, I'm complaining.

Anyway, this is Lady Love story time.

I barfined this girl at Lady Love Agogo in LK Metro. #43 in the photo. The girl with the chest tattoo. (But #14 is also cute.) #43 Her name is Two. I guess her older sister's name is One. Since Lady Love agogo is very popular, I guess many members here will recognize Two.

Two tells me that she wants to be barfined by me. Actually, her English is not that good. I tell her we go to Walking Street first and then boom boom in my hotel. She agrees. I pay her barfine and we head to Soi Buakhao and get on a Baht bus. Two then opens her handbag, pulls out two ten Baht coins for the fare, and gives them to me.

When we reach Walking Street, we try to enter Palace agogo. But the security guard won't let us in. Later I would learn that Palace agogo does not let couples in. They want single guys who buy lots of lady drinks and barfine a lady or two. So we go to XS agogo. They let us in. It was a lot of fun drinking in XS with a girl I brought. I didn't feel pressure to do something that I did not want to do. But now I hear XS also does not allow couples in.

Next, we go to Insomnia Club. That's the one on the upper floor for those who are confused. It's packed inside. Maybe we stayed at Insomnia too long because when we get back to my hotel, it is close to 3 am. I take a shower first. When I finish my shower, I tell Two to take a shower. She refuses. She actually says that she is going home. But since she's lying down on the bed, I take the opportunity to DFK her. Then I manage to stick my dick in her mouth. I kind of get a blowjob for about ten seconds. Then she gets up and says she's leaving again. She utters "motortaxi" about two or three times. I think she wants taxi fare. With no reaction from me, Two just leaves.

The next day, I go back to Lady Love. I don't know why. When I enter, I see Two sitting down with a customer. Two says something to the guy and the guy looks at me. Then he says something to her and looks at me again. Then, in submission, he motions to me that Two will sit with me. About a minute later, Two comes over and sits next to me. I like it when the girl ditches the guy she is sitting with and comes to sit with me. And I didn't even call her over. I feel it is power that I never yearned for. I tell Two let's go to Walking Street again. Of course, she's not going to say no. I'm paying her barfine again.

We go to Insomnia again and later we end up in Muzzik Cafe. The speakers are Muzzik are way too loud. Drinking with a decent girl in Walking Street is quite fun, as long as the girl is not expensive. But it would be a nightmare with a demanding girl. It's almost 3 am. Now, I don't need to fuck her. It would add nothing to my life. Also, I don't want to fuck a girl whose Thai husband is impatiently waiting for her. Yes, I'm 100% sure that Two has a Thai husband. I spent a lot of time with her on two consecutive nights. I can feel she's worried about getting home too late. I can also sense her painful cries for help. But I'm not going to get into that today. I'm not Batman. I'm only a Baht-Man.

I give her 1,000 baht for her time. But she doesn't want to accept it. So I open her handbag and put it inside. I walk her to a motorbike stand and make sure she grabs one and watch her leave. I walk all the way to my hotel near Soi Chaiyapoon, loveless and penniless. That is the story of many guys in Pattaya.

Next time, I go to Lady Love, I'm going to barfine Two's friend and fuck the friend. Fuck Walking Street next time.[/QUOTE]So you spent thousands barfining a below average looking fat girl with an ugly tattoo on her chest and you didn't even get to creampie her? I'm not trying to insult you I'm saying this out of love but the fuck is wrong of you? Even if you are inexperienced I understand not getting what you paid for we all been there but going back for seconds and then doubling down by giving her 1000 baht as a reward for not fucking you? Do not go back to that bar you just ruined your reputation there. The girl already told everyone there that you are an idiot and you paid her 1000 baht without sleeping with her (thai girls are quite mean behind the customers back) also why the fuck are you even barfining. Cut the middle man and get a freelancer.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843188]we try to enter Palace agogo. But the security guard won't let us in. Later I would learn that Palace agogo does not let couples in. They want single guys who buy lots of lady drinks and barfine a lady or two. [/QUOTE]Not true at all. I've taken plenty of working girls on their night off to Palace cause they want to see it. Never had an issue. In fact, treated like gold likely cause they saw my girl as a potential dancer there.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2843312]Why are you barfining a girl and taking her to walking street to party instead of taking her to your room and smashing? Makes no sense.

You're wasting your time and hers. And you get nothing out of it but a wasted night and blue balls.[/QUOTE]

A gogo girl tactic to kill time and show their friends they are barfined. Also to have the John buy drinks for her friends. In return, when her friend gets barfined she visits your gogo girls bar to order drinks. You buy a drink for your girl and her friend and that counts as 2 drinks to her friend's quota.

It's something that Japanese, Korean, Chinese men, and newbies do. The Asian men love showing off they have cash. The newbies are just clueless. I admit I fell for this stuff on my first trip to Pattaya too. Since then I only take working girls to other bars on their nights off and it will only be to bars I can put up with. I also don't buy their friends drinks unless the friend is hot and I get something out of my drink.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843353]Not true at all. I've taken plenty of working girls on their night off to Palace cause they want to see it. Never had an issue. In fact, treated like gold likely cause they saw my girl as a potential dancer there.



A gogo girl tactic to kill time and show their friends they are barfined. Also to have the John buy drinks for her friends. In return, when her friend gets barfined she visits your gogo girls bar to order drinks. You buy a drink for your girl and her friend and that counts as 2 drinks to her friend's quota.

It's something that Japanese, Korean, Chinese men, and newbies do. The Asian men love showing off they have cash. The newbies are just clueless. I admit I fell for this stuff on my first trip to Pattaya too. Since then I only take working girls to other bars on their nights off and it will only be to bars I can put up with. I also don't buy their friends drinks unless the friend is hot and I get something out of my drink.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insight into this matter. The idea of showing off and losing face and all that is very foreign to westerners, even a non-caucasian westerner like me.

I could care less about showing off. My main objective in Pattaya is to smash holes, eat good food and generally just relax by myself. Could care less about impressing anyone or losing face. I live a dull, borderline depressing life in the US as an office drone with no female companionship. So, whilst in Thailand, it's about me and enjoying my time off from life back home.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843192]Classic bargirl story:

Some lonely man fell in love with a bargirl, gave her a monthly stipend of 30,000 baht and paid for a house for her. He shows up every few months for 2 weeks.

Meanwhile, the bargirl continues to work bar and go with customers. And now another customer bought out her contract, and she is staying in his condo indefinitely (no, it's not me).

The problem is her sponsor is coming next week, but she can't leave the current customer.

Meanwhile, she loves another customer, but fortunately, his wife stops him from coming to Thailand.

Not that this lady is a 10, I wouldn't look at her twice. It's just that there are so many lonely men who lose their minds if a lady talks to them.

Don't be a lonely guy. There are 25,000 bargirls in Pattaya, try fucking a dozen on your next trip, not just one.[/QUOTE]I wasn't talking about a generic bargirl story that could come from anyone. I meant a personal story.

But if that's what you have, then I appreciate the effort.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2843273]You do understand Baitoey is a Working girl. Older the Better.[/QUOTE]The pure Korean-only girls go with young Koreans only. But most Korean mongers are young anyway.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843353]A gogo girl tactic to kill time and show their friends they are barfined. Also to have the John buy drinks for her friends. In return, when her friend gets barfined she visits your gogo girls bar to order drinks. You buy a drink for your girl and her friend and that counts as 2 drinks to her friend's quota.[/QUOTE]Not just a gogo girl tactic. My first time in Pattaya was to see a girl I met online. She worked in a salon. She took me and my wingman to the Rooftop bar which was at the entrance of Walking Street on the right side. Yes she had friends there and we had drinks. I knew something was fishy when she ordered Hennessey. I asked what the hell do you know about Hennessey? She said she had a boyfriend from Texas before and that is what he used to drink.

Then she took us to Lucifer. That is when we found out Pattaya was the place to be. We were with chicks but girls were still pulling on us. Some chicks even got into a fight in the club about one girl trying to get another girl's guy. When we left out of Lucifer we went to some other bar where another friend worked. She tried to order drinks there and I said bullshit, we are going back to the room. So we went to the room. Don't think you have to run all over buying drinks because that is where you are led. I saw that shit early and nipped it in the bud. And this chick was not even a hooker.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843353]Not true at all. I've taken plenty of working girls on their night off to Palace cause they want to see it. Never had an issue. In fact, treated like gold likely cause they saw my girl as a potential dancer there.[/QUOTE]It worked for you because you are a regular at Palace and the security guards know you.

I'm telling you, for the average guy, it is not possible to enter Palace with a girl.

I tried it. It didn't work.

But either way, it's not that important.

I do not know if anyone remembers but this is a photo of Panda the 18 year old girl from Crazy Story posted a while back. Actually, her name is not Panda. I don't remember her name now. She might be 19 now. So if anyone wants to fuck a slim young girl, then go to her bar and tell the mamasan you want the 18 year old girl. But you will need a lot of money. And most likely, you will have to pay everything upfront. Now, where does she work? The answer is in the photo.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843421]It worked for you because you are a regular at Palace and the security guards know you.[/QUOTE]I only became a regular at Palace from 2017/18 after meeting MP. At the same time some of my girls moved over to Palace as it became the go to gogo bar. I never liked Palace before that. I was a Beach Club, Happy, Sensations, Fahrenheit, YES!, Nui 2, Glass House, and Baccara guy. Went to all of those more than Palace. But my 2 main gogo bars were in LK Metro. I took girls in to Palace before and after being a regular. No, I am not close to any of the bouncers, waitresses, or mamasans. I am a nobody and a very small player in Palace. I have my handful of 6 girls I'll occasionally buy a drink for and don't talk to the rest of them.

Was Palace packed? Sometimes if there are no seats available the waitresses will tell us that at the door. Not sure if your girl was pretty but that may be a factor to if she gets in as well. Palace is likely the strictest club on which girls are allowed to work there.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843469]I only became a regular at Palace from 2017/18 after meeting MP. At the same time some of my girls moved over to Palace as it became the go to gogo bar. I never liked Palace before that. I was a Beach Club, Happy, Sensations, Fahrenheit, YES!, Nui 2, Glass House, and Baccara guy. Went to all of those more than Palace. But my 2 main gogo bars were in LK Metro. I took girls in to Palace before and after being a regular. No, I am not close to any of the bouncers, waitresses, or mamasans. I am a nobody and a very small player in Palace. I have my handful of 6 girls I'll occasionally buy a drink for and don't talk to the rest of them.

Was Palace packed? Sometimes if there are no seats available the waitresses will tell us that at the door. Not sure if your girl was pretty but that may be a factor to if she gets in as well. Palace is likely the strictest club on which girls are allowed to work there.[/QUOTE]It wasn't packed. But the security guard said it was full. But I could see through the curtain that there were empty seats inside. I posted the girl's photo in the story.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843412]I wasn't talking about a generic bargirl story that could come from anyone. I meant a personal story.

But if that's what you have, then I appreciate the effort.[/QUOTE]No lack of personal stories from me here. But I don't send money to ladies in Thailand, so no sponsorship stories from me.

I can't tell you how many times I have a naked lady on my sofa who was getting messages from lonely guys.

Here are some hints for newbies:

Don't send money to ladies in Thailand. It makes them think you are stupid.

In Thailand, ladies give money to their boyfriends, even if it comes from sex customers.

Keep messages to ladies on point (short): where and when you are going to meet.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843469]I only became a regular at Palace from 2017/18 after meeting MP. At the same time some of my girls moved over to Palace as it became the go to gogo bar. I never liked Palace before that. I was a Beach Club, Happy, Sensations, Fahrenheit, YES!, Nui 2, Glass House, and Baccara guy. Went to all of those more than Palace. But my 2 main gogo bars were in LK Metro. I took girls in to Palace before and after being a regular. No, I am not close to any of the bouncers, waitresses, or mamasans. I am a nobody and a very small player in Palace. I have my handful of 6 girls I'll occasionally buy a drink for and don't talk to the rest of them.

Was Palace packed? Sometimes if there are no seats available the waitresses will tell us that at the door. Not sure if your girl was pretty but that may be a factor to if she gets in as well. Palace is likely the strictest club on which girls are allowed to work there.[/QUOTE]Let me tell you from the Heart.

Palace now have some Soi 6 quality on stage. Not the Baitoey type.

The FON of desire type.

Hahaha. No offense. I'm not beholden to any Agogo.

Sharks right now has 5- 6 girls equivalent to the top Palace girl. P.S. I don't even know who the top Palace girl right now is. There is no standout.

[QUOTE=Falcon95;2843440]I do not know if anyone remembers but this is a photo of Panda the 18 year old girl from Crazy Story posted a while back. Actually, her name is not Panda. I don't remember her name now. She might be 19 now. So if anyone wants to fuck a slim young girl, then go to her bar and tell the mamasan you want the 18 year old girl. But you will need a lot of money. And most likely, you will have to pay everything upfront. Now, where does she work? The answer is in the photo.[/QUOTE]I speak for everyone. These type of photos are USELESS. LOL. I'm trying to figure out what kind of phone she has.

3 nights surveillance of Soi 6. Nothing and I mean nothing.

Sunday night. Glad to see the Hot girls entertaining Customers. Did they get barfined. I doubt it. Them Korean s not that Crazy.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843420]Don't tell me what to do. I didn't ruin my reputation there.

Also, how do you know that the girl told everyone that I'm an idiot? It sounds more like a personal insult from you.

Where is your proof that the girl thinks I'm an idiot?

And no barfining? Tell that to everyone here. And not just to me.[/QUOTE]"An egocentric narrow-minded guy like you wouldn't understand. ".

Seems like you're the one hurling personal insults at other commenters.

[QUOTE=BamBoomBam;2843419]An egocentric narrow-minded guy like you wouldn't understand.

You think you are right about everything and if anyone deviates from your beliefs, you are quick to shoot them down.

Not everyone goes to Pattaya for pussy. Pussy might play a large role. But Pattaya does not equate to pussy. You wouldn't understand because you think about pussy 24/7.

And if you truly think that I wasted the girl's time, then between you and me, you are the clueless one.[/QUOTE]That's telling him! I always say. You do you and I will do me. Nevertheless, with respect to advice I take the wheat and throw away the chaff.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2843529]Let me tell you from the Heart.

Palace now have some Soi 6 quality on stage. Not the Baitoey type.[/QUOTE]Good that means a certain someone won't drag me to Palace any more. When "cat ears, the Baccara one" and "cutest girl ever" went missing I found Palace unbearable other than to say Hi to "Panda".

Good I like Sharks. Used to be a regular there. Mamasan there loves me.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843521]Don't send money to ladies in Thailand. It makes them think you are stupid.[/QUOTE]

I sent money to a cute, petite girl who works at an Amazon coffee a couple of days ago. Her hamster died so she asked me for 260 baht to buy a box at B2S to bury her hamster. I was so overwhelmed by her sorrow I sent her 300 baht, 40 baht more than asked. Let's see if I was stupid or a genius after banging her next month.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843651]I sent money to a cute, petite girl who works at an Amazon coffee a couple of days ago. Her hamster died so she asked me for 260 baht to buy a box at B2S to bury her hamster. Let's see if I was stupid or a genius after banging her next month.[/QUOTE]See to me that is a red flag. What the hell was wrong with the box it was already living in? Next month she will be working in Korea.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843521]No lack of personal stories from me here. But I don't send money to ladies in Thailand, so no sponsorship stories from me.

I can't tell you how many times I have a naked lady on my sofa who was getting messages from lonely guys.

Here are some hints for newbies:

Don't send money to ladies in Thailand. It makes them think you are stupid.

In Thailand, ladies give money to their boyfriends, even if it comes from sex customers.

Keep messages to ladies on point (short): where and when you are going to meet.[/QUOTE]It's a Blessing you don't spend excess money on Old Ladies with teenage Sons who don't like you. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843651]
I sent money to a cute, petite girl who works at an Amazon coffee a couple of days ago. Her hamster died so she asked me for 260 baht to buy a box at B2S to bury her hamster. I was so overwhelmed by her sorrow I sent her 300 baht, 40 baht more than asked. Let's see if I was stupid or a genius after banging her next month.[/QUOTE]I am sure that her Thai boyfriend appreciated you when she handed him your money.

Next time, you can cut out the "middleman" and just send him the money directly.

Someone asked me about threesomes, and so here are my suggestions for making it happen. Note that I never ask the ladies up front whether they will play with each other, in fact, everything a lady does with me is her idea, I never tell them what to do.

So, I start off with drinks, they will get naked when they get a bit drunk. If one plays with me, I will respond. Sometimes, its fairly intense, so I suggest we go the bedroom, but they will shower on the way.

Whether on the sofa or in the bedroom, I will invite a lady to climb onto my mouth for pussy licking. Very few decline, for some reason. That leaves the other lady next to my dick, and she will invariably show me her skills. Or many just jump on and smash my dick. I can't say or do anything, since my mouth is busy and I have a lady on my chest.

After a while, I will turn my attention to the lady on my dick, I will wriggle away from the lady on top, and lay the other lady down, getting ready to lick her pussy. This is when the first lady may get there first, and then I can take a break. No, really what I will do is to sidle up to the lady getting her pussy licked, and stick my dick in her mouth.

After that, there are many possible permutations, depending on the ladies.

But not all ladies will play like that, and I don't force them. So, there are fallback techniques. And sometimes if I am on a trip, the ladies don't want to play together the first night, but will the second night.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2843651]
Good I like Sharks. Used to be a regular there. Mamasan there loves me.
[/QUOTE]Haha Aon loves everyone! But if you talk about her. Yeah she is great fun! Same for Meena (left unfortunally) who was a stunning model there and enough tingtong to have fun.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843710]I am sure that her Thai boyfriend appreciated you when she handed him your money.

Next time, you can cut out the "middleman" and just send him the money directly.[/QUOTE]You could also copy paste these two sentences each time a member reports giving money to a girl after fucking her.

Absolutely Disturbing.

During my walk last night on Soi 6 I noticed several Bars with girls in T shirts. No way in San Jose is it possible to judge a Girls Body.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2843875]You could also copy paste these two sentences each time a member reports giving money to a girl after fucking her.[/QUOTE]Fee for service is okay. Giving ladies money for services rendered makes the world go round.

Giving ladies money for nothing is stupid. That's where the ladies may stop work, and just hang out in the village with their Thai husband.

3 some report from last night:

No interaction between the ladies, but they weren't shy. No prompting from me for them to have fun on the bed.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843710]I am sure that her Thai boyfriend appreciated you when she handed him your money.

Next time, you can cut out the "middleman" and just send him the money directly.[/QUOTE]What was I supposed to do? Her HAMSTER died and needed a cardboard box for its coffin! Poor little guy.

I was just emotionally distraught by the loss of a hamster's life. I know 300 baht is life changing money to some of us guys but in this case I had to sacrifice lunch at McDonald's and make sure this hamster had a good afterlife. He deserved nothing less.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844012]What was I supposed to do? Her HAMSTER died and needed a cardboard box for its coffin! Poor little guy.

I was just emotionally distraught by the loss of a hamster's life. I know 300 baht is life changing money to some of us guys but in this case I had to sacrifice lunch at McDonald's and make sure this hamster had a good afterlife. He deserved nothing less.[/QUOTE]A lady just sent me a message asking for 300 baht this morning:

" I got into an argument with someone in the Anzac bar and haven't been working for 5 days. And I've been sick for 3 days. Symptoms include fever and cough and sore throat. More tired today What I fear is Will asthma come back again?

I don't have any money now. If you are convenient enough to lend me 300 baht now, I'm very grateful. And if you're inconvenient, that's fine, I understand. ".

The problem is once a lady sees you as an ATM for free money, it never stops.

The best response is no response.

Meanwhile, I am in Phuket with 2 young ladies.

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[QUOTE=Falcon95;2843440]I do not know if anyone remembers but this is a photo of Panda the 18 year old girl from Crazy Story posted a while back. Actually, her name is not Panda. I don't remember her name now. She might be 19 now. So if anyone wants to fuck a slim young girl, then go to her bar and tell the mamasan you want the 18 year old girl. But you will need a lot of money. And most likely, you will have to pay everything upfront. Now, where does she work? The answer is in the photo.[/QUOTE]I fucked her 4 days ago. She's working at Pink Baby on Soi Boomerang. She is not using the Panda name anymore. The girls at this place have western nicknames like Anna, Alice and Apple. She was friendly when drinking, and she did her job in the room, but the pain and agony she endured made it unenjoyable. She tried hard to keep me from going balls deep.

She is slim and pretty, but overall service was a 6/10. 3000 ST upstairs, paid upfront to Mamasan. Do not recommend.

Just got back from Pattaya. Parked my motorbike on Soi6/1 (Ladyboy alley) and walked to Soi 6. As soon a I entered 1st bar on the left had stunner standing.

I said Hi, She smiled and didn't respond. I tried to speak little Thai, she said no English. Grabbed her and went inside to buy her drink.

She was fresh out of Isan, 5. 4 dark skin (My fav), Full lips. Finished Drink and paid 600 Bar fine 1500ST.

She changed her dress, and hopped on my motorbike. We took shower together and off to bed.

A lot of DFK, and very good sucker. She dident asked for condom so I went raw (don't try this at home), After 2 minutes of fucking I pulled out of tried to change position she was bleeding.

I asked her if she is on period, she said no. Her pussy for not so loose or tight but why bleeding? I don't think so my dick was too big for her. This did turned off my mood, and I asked her to finish me while sucking.

I know I haven't done my report here yet, but really nothing to brag about, I did mostly BJ bars in Bangkok and in Pattaya in the morning, and I got lots of freelancers off Thaifriendly so didn't need to do gogo bars or beer bars. I love Thailand, but I wish I could stay longer.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;2844049]She is slim and pretty, but overall service was a 6/10. 3000 ST upstairs, paid upfront to Mamasan. Do not recommend.[/QUOTE]Sounds expensive, did you try to negotiate? Or it was a special price for that particular girl?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2843987]Giving ladies money for nothing is stupid. That's where the ladies may stop work, and just hang out in the village with their Thai husband.[/QUOTE]We don't know if he gave her money for nothing, I don't send money over so I don't have much experience in these matter, but he may also get her sympathy, who knows.

Only the future will say if he was wrong or right, if she asks money again, or if he meets her again in the future.

My point is, to the contrary of what many thinks on this forum, all these girls are not evil. Girls that are living there for a long time are mostly fucked up, but they are not all arrived at that point, and some of them are still very nice people and can act accordingly with people they consider good.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2844075]
My point is, to the contrary of what many thinks on this forum, all these girls are not evil. .[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. Some people here act like all ladies have thai boyfriends and all ladies are evil.

Of course you have to be careful and being a bit skeptical helps a lot. However I know enough stories that are solid proof those biased opinions are not always the case.

Yeah some (maybe even a lot) might consider us tourist ATM's. But same. Not ALL. Keep in mind the "farm fresh" girls are learning from girls who work Pattaya a longer time. And of course they are not giving the best advice (aka advice in OUR / customer favor!) how to make MONEY. They work in a bar. It's their job to make money.

So yeah they help eachother with ladydrinks (can you buy drink for my sister / friend?) but can you blame them? For doing. Their job?

On average a girl need to do 4-6 drinks a DAY in agogo. If not? Less salary. They simply have a SALES TARGET.

Keep in mind these ladies there. Are well, people. Human beings. They come to Pattaya with (false / high) hopes. They fall in love with some tourist (who just fucks her for free and ghost her when back home). Of course after a few bad experiences they take a different attitude. Same as for us, it's also for them a steep learning curve.

Pattaya is a trap. For us but also for them. 90% of the ladies I know (in over a dozen visits in the last 5 years) don't like their job and want to get out. However they make so much money they "can't". Its a bit what all working ladies have everywhere. Hate it, addicted to the cash.

A decent looking gogogirl makes 100-200 K a MONTH. Thats 10-20 x the minimum wage in Thailand. Go figure.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844012]What was I supposed to do? Her HAMSTER died and needed a cardboard box for its coffin! Poor little guy.

I was just emotionally distraught by the loss of a hamster's life. I know 300 baht is life changing money to some of us guys but in this case I had to sacrifice lunch at McDonald's and make sure this hamster had a good afterlife. He deserved nothing less.[/QUOTE]You could have used the Big Mac container broke even!

Some people give bar girls money to have them come over and get drunk and be pains in the ass. Then act like it's foolish beyond words to send a woman you like a couple thousand baht because she says she needs it. I've met some real sweet women in thailand and some schemers. It's not like it's a fortune. It's just part of the game.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2844075]We don't know if he gave her money for nothing, I don't send money over so I don't have much experience in these matter, but he may also get her sympathy, who knows.

Only the future will say if he was wrong or right, if she asks money again, or if he meets her again in the future.

My point is, to the contrary of what many thinks on this forum, all these girls are not evil. Girls that are living there for a long time are mostly fucked up, but they are not all arrived at that point, and some of them are still very nice people and can act accordingly with people they consider good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844020]A lady just sent me a message asking for 300 baht this morning:

" I got into an argument with someone in the Anzac bar and haven't been working for 5 days. And I've been sick for 3 days. Symptoms include fever and cough and sore throat. More tired today What I fear is Will asthma come back again?

I don't have any money now. If you are convenient enough to lend me 300 baht now, I'm very grateful. And if you're inconvenient, that's fine, I understand. "........[/QUOTE]If its a lady I've fucked many times before I'd send her the 300 Baht.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2844171]Agree 100%. Some people here act like all ladies have thai boyfriends and all ladies are evil.

Of course you have to be careful and being a bit skeptical helps a lot. However I know enough stories that are solid proof those biased opinions are not always the case.

Yeah some (maybe even a lot) might consider us tourist ATM's. But same. Not ALL. Keep in mind the "farm fresh" girls are learning from girls who work Pattaya a longer time. And of course they are not giving the best advice (aka advice in OUR / customer favor!) how to make MONEY. They work in a bar. It's their job to make money.

So yeah they help eachother with ladydrinks (can you buy drink for my sister / friend?) but can you blame them? For doing. Their job?

On average a girl need to do 4-6 drinks a DAY in agogo. If not? Less salary. They simply have a SALES TARGET.

Keep in mind these ladies there. Are well, people. Human beings. They come to Pattaya with (false / high) hopes. They fall in love with some tourist (who just fucks her for free and ghost her when back home). Of course after a few bad experiences they take a different attitude. Same as for us, it's also for them a steep learning curve.

Pattaya is a trap. For us but also for them. 90% of the ladies I know (in over a dozen visits in the last 5 years) don't like their job and want to get out. However they make so much money they "can't". Its a bit what all working ladies have everywhere. Hate it, addicted to the cash.

A decent looking gogogirl makes 100-200 K a MONTH. Thats 10-20 x the minimum wage in Thailand. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Not to be underestimated.

The majority are not good looking and the Greater Moral Majority are nowhere close to making 100,000 baht a month.

Let's be Real. Going to Bangkok or Pattaya or Hua Hin is just like going to Hollywood looking to be a Star of Movies.

Yes you hear about Amber Heard. But what about the millions we don't hear about.

Trust me most are not Pulling in the Big Buddha Bucks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844224]If its a lady I've fucked many times before I'd send her the 300 Baht.[/QUOTE]I've had regular s who I've seen many many times. Not once has anyone asked for money for Buffalo Medicine.

If you are being asked you must be a SIMP.

Watch you tube videos on why it's not good to be a SIMP. I think our Friend is a SIMP. No offense. The Girls have no respect for him. Double no offense.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844224]If its a lady I've fucked many times before I'd send her the 300 Baht.[/QUOTE]Once you send them money for nothing, you're just an ATM with a cellphone.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2844075]We don't know if he gave her money for nothing, I don't send money over so I don't have much experience in these matter, but he may also get her sympathy, who knows.

Only the future will say if he was wrong or right, if she asks money again, or if he meets her again in the future.

My point is, to the contrary of what many thinks on this forum, all these girls are not evil. Girls that are living there for a long time are mostly fucked up, but they are not all arrived at that point, and some of them are still very nice people and can act accordingly with people they consider good.[/QUOTE]I know one lady who posts photos of herself (when she was 18) on Facebook, collects Facebook friends from lonely men (she has 5,000), and then sends messages to them claiming poverty and she just needs 1,000 baht for food. When she amasses 30,000 baht, she buys gold for her Thai boyfriend.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2844216]Some people give bar girls money to have them come over and get drunk and be pains in the ass. Then act like it's foolish beyond words to send a woman you like a couple thousand baht because she says she needs it. I've met some real sweet women in thailand and some schemers. It's not like it's a fortune. It's just part of the game.[/QUOTE]Obviously, your bargirl is different.

My advice: pay for services rendered, nothing more. Remember, there is no such thing as gratitude in Thailand, its an alien concept. "Jai dee" = " good heart" = "sucker".

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2844171]Agree 100%. Some people here act like all ladies have thai boyfriends and all ladies are evil.[/QUOTE]I believe guys who always keep saying this are guys who have been burned badly before.

I personally don't care if the 300 baht went to get the hamster a nice coffin or went to her Thai BF. My goal was to be a "jai dee" to steal her heart then see if I get "freebies" from a young civilian girl next month. I ordered Wagyu beef instead of Kobe beef tonight to make up the money I spent on my "jai dee" experiment.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2844176]You could have used the Big Mac container broke even![/QUOTE]Her hamster was too fat for a Big Mac box. Good idea though.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844224]If its a lady I've fucked many times before I'd send her the 300 Baht.[/QUOTE]If you / we are in town near the girl, her request to "borrow" relatively small money like 300 baht is often merely a pretense to initiate contact in her hope to repeat and see us again. Especially if it is a girl who has enough attributes going for her that it is highly unlikely that she is so desperate for 300 baht.

Mind you, I'm talking about a scenario where you and the girl are near enough to actually meet and the girl is clearly not a typical charity case.

She wants to see you again, not somebody else. Right now if possible. For whatever reason and unless you lavished her with money way over the going rate previously it very well might be for reasons other than just the money. Ok, in addition to the money. And in those cases it would not be because she considers you a sucker or a chump.

Many times that out-of-the-blue Line message where "Hi" is followed by, "Sorry if I am disturbing you but can I borrow 300 baht for my hamster's coffin?" it moves right into "Or I can come see you now. ".

Am I flattering my own ego by saying, hell, I have even gotten out-of-the-blue Line messages from hot young ladies I sessioned with previously asking to "borrow" as little as 50 baht that led directly to the next request to come to her bar to see and take her tonight or for her to come over for LT right now! LOL. Maybe.

I have had many such small money "borrow" requests that were really about just making contact with me again to meet again.

Of course, the first thing that needs to happen in order for it to go there is for many girls to want to repeat and see you again that much. Which is where the ego self-flattering part comes in.

But, hey, I suppose that particular scenario is at least as good a reason to flatter my own ego about it as the guys who flatter their own ego by thinking the reason none of their past session girls ever contact them to "borrow" money in that way is because they are champions at not coming across as suckers or chumps rather than that none of those girls really wants to repeat a session with them very much.

As always, YMMV.

Policy a New at Palace.

Girls of your wet dreams can come off the stage as soon as you give the OK.

Quite a pain in the AzZ for the mommy as she having to juggle the girls stage to stage to balance them out.

Man. All you guys getting results from TF make me jealous. I will try one more time. But this trip, I will try this strategy:

1- Short Messages -such as. Lets meet ST now.

2- Will not message until I am there and ready.

Previously I had literally 30 of the same type of "Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. You cute Hi Hello Hi Hi" I tried to line up ladies but none could read I guess.

And as previously posted Nothing I said got them to say anything other than the "Hi Hi Hi " shit.

I have plenty of prospects that are still in my TF account. But have Zero results. I have Never hooked up with a Thai lady via TF. So I'll try one more time.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2844305]

I have plenty of prospects that are still in my TF account. But have Zero results. I have Never hooked up with a Thai lady via TF. So I'll try one more time.[/QUOTE]Not sure. But maybe you just aim on the 9/10's and they are busy? The real beauties can be picky themselves (you might be to old for them or just not their type).

I never go for OPTIK fucks. I prefer ladies who speak english and can hold a conversation for more than 2 minutes.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2844305]Man. All you guys getting results from TF make me jealous. I will try one more time. But this trip, I will try this strategy:

1- Short Messages -such as. Lets meet ST now.

2- Will not message until I am there and ready.

Previously I had literally 30 of the same type of "Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. You cute Hi Hello Hi Hi" I tried to line up ladies but none could read I guess.

And as previously posted Nothing I said got them to say anything other than the "Hi Hi Hi " shit.

I have plenty of prospects that are still in my TF account. But have Zero results. I have Never hooked up with a Thai lady via TF. So I'll try one more time.[/QUOTE]Just ask how much ST / LT and include your line, that's about all you need to do. If they don't respond then whatever. You are speaking to a handler a lot of the time as well.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2844305]I have plenty of prospects that are still in my TF account. But have Zero results. I have Never hooked up with a Thai lady via TF. So I'll try one more time.[/QUOTE]You must be doing something wrong but sending messages when you are out of town is going to damage your opportunities. Most of the messages girls get are from time wasters who are not able to meet.

I use premium as it puts my message at the top of the stack and I [B]never[/B] send a message to a girl until I want to meet. And I tell them that so that they know I am serious. The only exception is the odd reply to a girl who messages me and I am interested in. These girls may not understand much English either so I keep it short and clear: "ST? I want to meet now, send me your LineId. ".

It's also a good practice to be sure that the girl you are messaging is currently online too, I don't waste my time messaging anyone that has not been active in the last 10 minutes.

The one on the right looks good, any chance to see her from the front. I mean the face and chest size! Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844020]A lady just sent me a message asking for 300 baht this morning:

" I got into an argument with someone in the Anzac bar and haven't been working for 5 days. And I've been sick for 3 days. Symptoms include fever and cough and sore throat. More tired today What I fear is Will asthma come back again?

I don't have any money now. If you are convenient enough to lend me 300 baht now, I'm very grateful. And if you're inconvenient, that's fine, I understand. ".

The problem is once a lady sees you as an ATM for free money, it never stops.

The best response is no response.

Meanwhile, I am in Phuket with 2 young ladies.[/QUOTE]

Pick your best picture, Most Thai Freelancers don't care how you look and how old are, they only care how much you will pay them short time.

I leave alone girls who say "looking for relationship, friends or looking to go out for dinner or date", This type of girls are in for big bucks or wealthy falangs, Koreans, Japs.

Freelancers generally have good pictures, with most blank profile or little to no info.

Start with Message " Hi, I am in Pattaya on Soi 8 " Are you free?

They will quickly reply, "Yes you pay"? Most of them same girls that are in beach road, beer bars, go go bars drop outs, or newly moved to Pattaya for quick money.

They all will ask you or give you line, and will avoid to discuss money on TF. Freelancers want your money now, not later, or tomorrow.

So if you not ready, don't message them. My TF was bombarded with likes and messages not cause I am Handsome Falang, just cause I wrote, In Pattaya on Vacation.

Most common Short time Price is 1500-2500.

Most of them will happily take 1500 average to ok looking Thai freelancer.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2844305]Man. All you guys getting results from TF make me jealous. I will try one more time. But this trip, I will try this strategy:

1- Short Messages -such as. Lets meet ST now.

2- Will not message until I am there and ready.

Previously I had literally 30 of the same type of "Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. You cute Hi Hello Hi Hi" I tried to line up ladies but none could read I guess.

And as previously posted Nothing I said got them to say anything other than the "Hi Hi Hi " shit.

I have plenty of prospects that are still in my TF account. But have Zero results. I have Never hooked up with a Thai lady via TF. So I'll try one more time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2844305]Man. All you guys getting results from TF make me jealous. I will try one more time. I have Never hooked up with a Thai lady via TF.[/QUOTE]That is shocking. TF must be the easiest app to meet chicks (hookers and nonhookers) in the history of the internet. As the said, you need to have the premium first off. Most chicks message me first. If I message them first then I usually just say you cute or either reference something from one of their pictures. Then I ask what is their work and what soi they stay. Then I may say when I can see you. Then get their Line. I have noticed that most activity on TF is during the night and late night at that. Maybe 2 am. If you are putzing around on it during the day or early evening then my experience is not many chicks send likes or.

Respond at these times.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844268]Remember, there is no such thing as gratitude in Thailand, its an alien concept. "Jai dee" = " good heart" = "sucker".[/QUOTE]Wrong, if it was an alien concept they wouldn't have created a Thai word to describe it, Jaidee is a typical Thai word.

Your definition of JaiDee is the one between a working girl and her customer, not the same as used in the Thai society.

And they have empathy for others too, remember around 2013-2014 the German guy with the big foot disease begging in Bangkok? It went viral on the social media and so many Thai tried to help the guy because they thought he was genuinely in trouble.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2844305]Man. All you guys getting results from TF make me jealous. I will try one more time. But this trip, I will try this strategy:

1- Short Messages -such as. Lets meet ST now.

2- Will not message until I am there and ready.

I have plenty of prospects that are still in my TF account. But have Zero results. I have Never hooked up with a Thai lady via TF. So I'll try one more time.[/QUOTE]Dude!

TF is the easiest way to get a fleelancer in your room! But, only AFTER 6 PM or 7 PM to be sure! Most of these girls sleep all day like vampires, bc they tend to wake up when the sun goes down, Hahahaha!

Please try again! And pick two or three girls, bc some 'need 1/2 hours to be ready' even if it's a 15 minute ride on the motobike-taxi.

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2844064]Just got back from Pattaya.

I know I haven't done my report here yet, but really nothing to brag about, I did mostly BJ bars in Bangkok and in Pattaya in the morning, and I got lots of freelancers off Thaifriendly so didn't need to do gogo bars or beer bars. I love Thailand, but I wish I could stay longer.[/QUOTE]Don't we all wish to stay a little longer in Paradise?

I was winding up the night at Kink Agogo on LK Metro in early May, about midway through a 9-day Pattaya visit, the first I had been back in a decade. As I watched from upstairs the platform with the multi-girl lesbian tableau act descend to the ground floor, it occurred to me that this voyeur-ing was my most wholesome activity that day. Which makes the trip a success in my book, but my "want to have it all" mongering spirit makes me yearn for all the options that time and stamina made it impossible to pursue. Most of my past posts have been day-by-day accounts, but I'll put these trip reports together differently, by kind of venue, a bit like a certain Pattaya bar's discord site I had been devouring for weeks leading up to the trip, and since.

I got to Pattaya after 9 on a Friday night in early May and checked into my room at Flipper Lodge on Soi 8 near Beach Road. That location was quieter than expected with most of the bar complex below closed for renovations. Sitting on the streetside terrace at breakfast (great buffet with different Thai dishes every day, allowing me to sample the local fare while indulging in pub food and Hunger Pangs' mouth-watering burgers for dinner), I looked over at the old-school bars across the street (The Flintstones Bar's name probably does not resonate with many these days! Giving a glimpse of Pattaya's charmingly unglamorous and kitschy past.

I didn't have ambitious plans for my first night, and looked for options close to home. From YouTube the Buzz was that among the week's activities was a party at Shooters Bar on Soi 7 that night. Defining nightlife venues in Pattaya can be confounding; with girls dancing on a stage I'm not sure how Shooter's isn't considered an agogo, but no matter, the place is pure fun. It was a costume night, with nurses, schoolgirls, and policewomen, among others up on the small stage strip and mingling with the guests.

A cutie, Ing, in an undefined but sexy lacy outfit, came up to me and a couple of lady drinks resulted in raunchy grinding belied by her fresh face. She was smiley and had a great sense of humor (pantomimed, we needed Google translate to communicate verbally for the most part) which sold me on her. I paid the barfine of 1,500, and was surprised when the mamasan required the short time payment of 2,000 up front, justifying it on the grounds that it was Ing's first night at the bar and her first barfine. Who knows. At that point I was ready to see the maxim I had heard long ago, "if you can dance you can fuck," play itself out in my room.

Alas, the phrase did not ring true, as once in the room Ing was kind of shy and not the kisser or engaging lover I had expected. She was a real sweetheart, so I felt bad that over the course of the week I ghosted her Line messages and avoided returning to Shooters since I just didn't want to invest in meh sex again, or deal with the drama of barfining another girl there.

But I did return on my last night, Ing's eyes lighting up when I strolled past her sitting outside Shooters at 11 pm, and we commenced a couple of hours of handsy, grindy fun inside the bar, where costumes were again the rage. Shooters is such a fun place and I would say that of any place I visited (which to be fair did not include many agogos) it was the best looking set of girls I saw together in one place on my trip. Hell, it's just worth it to go for the buttered popcorn, which probably ranks with crack for addictiveness.

Besides the aforementioned Kink, another agogo I checked out as a break from trawling Beach Road (see below) was Tahitian Queen. I went in as a nod to Pattaya's history as it supposedly is the town's oldest or original agogo. And I rank it as another very fun place, with some alcohol-fueled shenanigans between the women and gents, and thecor the epitome of tropical island kitch. But it was definitely on the other end of the spectrum vs. Shooters when it came to the vintage and appearance of the ladies. Still, I felt good about having a drink there to absorb some of Pattaya's living history.

One of the best things about Flipper Lodge's location, besides the great sunset views, was the easy access to the nightly Beach Road freelancer market. I made the stroll most nights, even when I was not looking for company either worn out from the day or just wanting to get back to my room to relax just to check out the scene.

On Saturday night, my second in town, I was looking for a bedmate and across from around Soi 10 or 11 I spotted this adorable caramel-hared spinner under a coconut palm. She was friendly and agreed to 1,000 for short time, but then wrote me a message in Google translate about whether I had a "public" hotel. This seemed strange, until she indicated that she did not have her ID card with her. That was not necessarily a no-go at Flipper, as Ing did not have one and so the clerk had me sign a waiver for any losses and she was allowed up, but this girl proposed a short time alternative.

It turned out to be a tiny strip of rooms on a soi just across the street; I paid the manager 200 and we were in. It did occur to me the reason she did not have an ID, although she told me she was 18, and so the whole time I was with her I was kind of wary of having a police sting operation come bursting through the door. But by all evidence this cutie was properly seasoned springing from this spinner body were an Indian-temple caliber set of full, round, boobs. As for the session, mai pen rai with the authorities.

The sex did match my expectations though, as she was pretty tight down there and my equipment was flagging after an earlier body massage (more on that later) and a long beach day on Koh Larn. But this girl was smiley and playful, coming from the shower to the bed in her towel and asking if it was ok that she was a ladyboy (she was joking, but a similar comment over a decade ago on nearly the same spot was all too true, a shock for me lo those many years ago). She also agreed to pics, which will help fuel some fantasy daydreams even if the reality didn't live up to the anticipation.

But I would rank my Beach Road freelancer experience a success thanks to one lady, BB, whom I encountered the next night, Sunday. At 33 (an age that surprised me when she said it) she had more than a decade on the teenie from the night before. But her cleavage-revealing dress and soulful eyes had me hooked, and she agreed to a 1,000 for short time but no anal, as apparently some subcontinental clients' group appointments with her got a little too eager in that area.

BB had pretty good English, as she had worked overseas in this biz, including Panama of all places. But our tongues had other duties that night, in a variety of anatomical locations, and it was the kind of romantic-style mongering I really go for.

A few days later I was in my hotel in the afternoon, and was hoping for a nice session before dinner, so I sent BB a Line message about coming over. After a greeting I heard nothing else, until a slew of apologies the next day. I didn't have many expectations about seeing BB again after that, but I found myself making the Beach Road stroll on my second to last night. I had her Line in my phone but I didn't call her, but I was actively looking for her, passing on some pretty faces along the way. Maybe I wanted a romantic fairy-tale ending?

Which I suppose it was, since my eyes eventually landed on her, sitting next to a friend under a palm tree. I approached, we hugged, and immediately proceeded back to my hotel together. There we had the kind of sweet session I wanted toward the end of the trip to indulge the Thai girlfriend desire.

I kind of regretted not having a lady back in the room every night I didn't miss long time stays, because that seemed like too much fuss and I wanted my alone time mostly because of all the opportunities out there. But in the end it came down to factors like online work commitments to deal with, and ultimately how much energy I had at the end of busy days, and the need for sleep. But some good memories with BB make her visits seem like just enough.

Part of the meaning of that title is that I feel like I was lax in not going for enough massages. Soi 7 near my hotel was saturated with them, but I never partook there. And I mean both for the bodily pampering as well as the sexual play. But I suppose I got my share in, although I never succeeded in having a daily morning massage parlor fuck to start the day.

Massages were a key element on my first two days. I arrived just before the first day of the Saturday evening-Sunday daytime bar closures on account of the elections. My first full day was a beautiful blue-sky Saturday and my desire for a tropical white sand beach (somehow) overcame carnal ones. So I had no bar options after a long day on the beach at Koh Larn (where it was pleasant to see the surely Instagram-inspired craze for Thai girls doing amateur swimsuit photo sessions).

Instead, I opted for a soapy massage, something I hadn't done in years. Around 9 pm I hopped on a Second Road Baht Bus and got off at Sabai Dee (getting off at Sabai Dee, coincidentally, was my intention). Discretion is not SD's thing, with the bright outdoor lighting and row of advertising signs enticing onlookers to indulge their naughty desires with multiple ladies.

On entering a male manager guided me to the seating area to choose my lady from behind the glassed-in L-shaped fishbowl, a selection of mostly busty ladies, with MILFs (in the best sense) well represented. Everything I had read recently about soapy massages advised choosing for a session a lady who interacted with you. Well, a few of the ladies really laid on the sales pitch, in particular one curvy 30-something with cleavage on display. I scanned the lineup and my eyes inevitably met hers when I looked around, drawn to her gestures and pointing at her number tag. Since she had the kind of body that I like in a soapy masseuse, and reminded me if a sexy former work colleague, I decided to see if her performance lived up to her marketing.

I paid the B3,800 fee and when the smiling lady soon appeared I followed her into the elevator upstairs, hand in hand. After ordering drinks she told me that she had worked at Sabai Dee several years, and this became apparent as she went through her routine: she had mastered the art of the soapy, with a seamless sequence of activities and talented moves, especially in the body slide. She also through in some surprises, like a frozen blow job in the tub (thanks to the ice cubes in the drink I bought her), and setting me up with a snack by letting me lick her berry-flavored yogurt-covered breasts. This was topped off with her riding me (the mirror on the ceiling was a bonus here) and me finishing in missionary. She serviced me professionally and wearing a smile at every moment.

The next day, Sunday, was dry. Not rain-wise, although the skies did not open, but booze wise and so I opted for a day of massages while the bars and gentleman's clubs were closed. I headed to Soi Honey as the epicenter of these activities, my second stop being Honey Body Massage. The lack of customers surprised me, given the skimpy options for mingling this day. A manager sat by me and claimed that he knew the kind of girl I would pick. Sure enough, when I selected a 20-something girl with an almost Arab look to her he crowed that this fairly petite lady was a typical farang choice, that the Indians and Chinese would pick a plumper girl. His prediction skills aside, this time it had nothing to do with interaction through the glass (or was there no glass?) since she did not gesture or otherwise market herself like the previous day's lady. I paid my B2,800, and I became even happier with my choice when I met Dao and found that she spoke almost fluent English.

The room had seen a fairly recent renovation, a bit nicer than Sabai Dee, though it was on the cold side and the music station on the television distracted me a bit. Throughout much of the undressing and washing that followed up in the room we conversed about all things Pattaya, and her cooking delivery business during COVID. Dao also had a good grasp on all the soapy sequence steps, but a session down the street an hour before meant that despite several positions I was slow to cum which I think tried her patience a bit, and I could only finish with a hand job.

I think it's best to treat soapy massages as you would an encounter with a skilled and service-oriented nurse, or other non-mongering professional. They're there to get the job done effectively and with skill, but don't expect a passion-filled experience. I didn't do any more soapies this trip, they were too time consuming and it was a been there, done that thing.

The session I had done before the soapy was at Paradise at the Soi Bukhao end of the street. I had walked down past the shops to scope out the talent, and on the way back I walked right up to a sexy, slender MILF and proposed a special massage. She was Nico, and she looked familiar because I had seen her photo on another forum. We went two flights up and occupied one of the cubby-holes and closed the curtain, though we seemed to be the only ones on the floor. Nico sported a friendly smile throughout, but I was processed through fairly quickly a little kissing, a BJ, some riding and another position or two and I soon spent my first shot of the day. Cost: B1,100.

After Honey I had time for one more massage before the bars opened (as it turned out, I just took a freelancer from Beach Road after dinner). I saw an appealing offering at Ava Massage midway down the street. Ammy had called out to me earlier as I was strolling the street, and after my soapy I decided I wanted another Thai-specific experience. Ammy was prettier than others in her category I had seen on Soi Honey, and to put it discreetly, she had something extra to offer. Slender with underdeveloped boobs, I liked this tall, lithe body.

Inside Ava has no rooms, and no cubbyholes like Paradise, just curtains separating low massage beds. This time the soundtrack was the guy on the next table over loudly snoring away, clearly relaxed from his massage! Mine was less relaxing. After I returned from a shower I entered the curtained area with Ammy, dropped my towel, and planted a tongue kiss on their lips, reciprocated nicely. A sensual blow job followed, transitioning into some hot 69 ing. Boom boom was not part of the package I had chosen, which was just as well since I was completely satisfied with cumming in Ammy's mouth as our eyes met (possible the best BBJCIM of the trip). Cost: B1,100.

A couple of days later I was doing an afternoon excursion to Soi Chaipoon / Pothole and saw what looked to me a Brazilian queen outside Meena Massage, sporting darkish skin, frizzy hair, and a flowing floral skirt. (I do like the diversity I see in Thai looks). With a tall, lithe frame balanced by rock hard bolt-ONS, Lin offered exotic kisses and a sensual BJ and 69. With anal on the menu, it was well worth the B1,200 for the hour.

The nice thing about the oily massage places is their efficiency. No chat or drink prelude, no ritual soaping, etc. This was key when I had an hour and a half break between two remote work meetings a few days after my initial Soi Honey spree. I stuck with Honey and this time walked right up to the cleavage I saw in front of Up to You Massage sorry, I mean walked up to the girl who introduced herself as Milky and immediately offered a special massage.

Milky didn't get this name for her Snow White appearance. Dark and covered in tats, she was Latina-style thicc, had a sweet face, and little puppy-dog pony tails made her look super cute. One word comes to mind for Milky: Babe-a-licious. She had the look of the kind of groupie an 80's heavy metal rocker would fuck. I mean this in the best possible way, I was stoked for this session.

The place felt newer inside than Paradise, but still had curtained cubby holes instead of rooms, and the sounds of another massage girls at work, groaning away, were in the air. I got a surprise right away when I stripped and lay on my front, when Milky gave me an excellent real massage, the best I had all trip. But of course we soon transitioned to the reason I was there, and Milky laid on a fine BBBJ and rode me with ferocity. Best was eyeballing and grabbing her round ass, whether I was pumping her in lazy doggy or when she did reverse cowgirl. True to her name, she coaxed the milk out of me (cowgirl, looking at her smile helped me fill the condom), well worth the B1,200. She got the job done on time (I made my second meeting in time), and with a smile I sure had one on too.

And that was actually it for massages on this trip. I really feel like I did not take proper advantage of this resource. I had dreams of rolling up at Sweet's Lounge on Soi Honey every morning at 8 AM to see Ola, but that never happened. Daily I passed so many parlors on Soi 7, but never had the experience of getting "extras" from a uniformed lady, to contrast with Soi Honeys' clear offerings. My biggest regret was that on my last afternoon after a good time at La Poste, I walked over to a massage place on the west side of Buakhao near the Lengkee intersection, to see if the insanely fit and big-boobed cutie I had spotted a few days earlier was still there. She was sitting outside, but I simply had no time left for a session, I had to catch a Baht bus to my hotel where my taxi to Bangkok airport would shortly be waiting. Why did I torture myself?

I didn't go into this trip with Walking Street agogos as a major destination, since there were so many other options like Gentleman's Clubs that I wanted to sample. Plus their overpriced reputation preceded them. Still, I had to make the pilgrimage to Walking Street, at least to soak up the scene.

The side sois off Walking Street are more interesting to me, for their literally more shady atmosphere; to me, when it comes to mongering, the less Disney-esque the better. Windmill and Sapphire agogos had been my semi-seedy Walking Street side-soi experiences in the past, and this time I tried another venue just a few yards down Soi Diamond from Windmill.

There's a lot of discussion online about the best lineups, but soon after I stepped in on a Wednesday night I was convinced that here was possibly the best concentrations of lookers I had seen. The vivacious, friendly mamasan (who playfully rubbed against me when I bought her a drink, she was older and chunky but it was all in fun), and the entertaining vibe (attempts to dance vs. Just shuffling on stage) made it easy to settle into a seat.

I like the Latina resemblance that Thai ladies sometimes have, and one with a Brazilian look showing off her ass attracted me. But I quickly switched gears when I saw another dancer with a short, blue tinted hairstyle preening in front of the mirror on one wall. I didn't blame her for taking in the view: right there I had the Wayne's World moment where Mike Myers sees the hot Asian rocker on stage and goes catatonic to the strains of "Dream Weaver," before snapping out of it and declaring "Schwing! She's a babe!" Tall, tanned, with perfectly shaped breasts and a juicy ass, I was smitten with T; model body aside, it was her most amazingly glistening lips and seductive eyes that hooked me. When I made eye contact she came over, and over drinks we watched the show on stage, with T stealing my attention by placing my hands on her boobs and serenading me between kisses.

Not surprisingly, I barfined T (B500) short-time, going to the fairly plush Green View hotel reached out the back of the club (B500 for the room). There T revealed more to her than meets the eye, with a sensual performance I'll remember for a long time (B1,500 for her). In a new twist on the three-day rule, I was so smitten that I returned and we repeated our rendezvous the following two nights.

On my trip ten years ago, Soi 6 was my new discovery, and I maxxed out my time there. This trip Gentleman's Clubs played that role, and so I didn't dedicate much time to the naughy Soi. Looking back, that was a shame, since I saw lots of talent there, and I would have like to have had a trip defining experience there like last time.

Midway through my trip I decided to make Soi 6 my nighttime entertainment. Starting by Beach Road, I made the full walk down the street to check out the offerings, the north side to my left offering substantially better options. Midweek and past high season, there were not many guys shopping, so I got plenty of attention from the ladies. Indecisive as usual, I walked all the way back, and back not far from where I started I let myself get talked into a small agogo by a couple of cuties (I think the name was MJ Kitty but I am not sure). I spotted one dancer who looked new to the job (she wore a dress, not the uniform others had on), but when I called her over after her shift I was surprised to be told that the place did not have rooms on site; I figured all Soi 6 places did.

Annoyed at losing almost half an hour, I made my way through the gauntlet of girls hawking for their bars. I eventually spotted a really fit, petite girl outside Sexy in the City. I walked up to her and said we should go to a room, and she said I would have to buy her a drink first. I understand the point of building some rapport with a girl prior to the room, but a decade ago my m. O. Was just point and shoot: see one I liked and take her right upstairs. Maybe it was partly May's idea, maybe it was bar policy, but that wasn't going to fly here.

It turned out alright because I had fun drinking and chatting with May, made possible by the fact that more than any girl I met on the trup, she spoke fluent English; not just that, she sounded as American as I did, with no accent that would suggest she was Thai; in her mid-20's, she apparently had spent time in a university program studying with teachers and students from the USA This American voice, coupled with her caramel colored hair, gym habits (very evident from her fit body), wide smile and fun-loving attitude, made her the quintessential California girl. She was unique in my Thai experiences, more like an exchange student than a local. That was refreshing, and I really enjoyed her dancing in front of me and rubbing up against my crotch.

That, plus the good music and party vibe at Sexy in the City, made me linger with May, but this had its drawbacks. First, she asked for B2,000 short time, but at this late hour I was not in the mood to negotiate and possible have to start from scratch (I rationalized the cost on the grounds of her being more educated and English fluent than most Soi 6 girls). The place closed at 1 AM and the time was approaching midnight, so we had to get going with finally getting to a room. We had to go to a nearby sister Nightwish chain bar as the ones at SITC were being renovated. In retrospect, the session with May was less fun than hanging out in the bar. Her fit frame was even more impressive without clothes, and she was energetic and flexible, but it all seemed rushed, with her expressing concern about getting back to SITC before closing.

I only got back to Soi 6 one other time on the trip, a couple of nights later. Early one evening I hailed the Baht Bus on Second Road, and ended up with a married Australian couple and their female friend as travel companions (they were talking the whole way). As we approached the bright lights and sounds of Soi 6, one of the women asked something along the lines of "isn't this the street with that nasty reputation?" while the other woman clucked with disapproval. That's when I hopped out, and I heard one of them comment something like "I wonder what he's getting up to here!" I wondered what the husband (a recent visitor maybe?) was thinking!

This time I had a destination: King Kong, for a BJ bar experience, for the first time in year. Back then, I forget if it was in Bangkok or Paytaya, it was in a closed room, but this time I wanted to blow my load down in the bar.

As I walked up I saw a brace-faced cutie sitting outside among a couple of MILFS (more appealing than those I saw when I looked into Pirate Bar on Soi Bongkot 8 a couple of days later), and motioned her inside.

I paid my 800 Baht and ordered a drink, and the bartender / mamasan told me that the was newly arrived from Isaan as she led us to a couch area in the back of the shop past the bar. The mama pulled a curtain shut around the area, although I would have preferred an exposed BJ in the barroom, even if I was the only customer.

It was clear that the was a newbie, as the mamasan gave her step by step instructions on how to position the pillow between my feet on the ground to kneel while sucking me. This the did well, though I had to guide her on the rhythm I liked (to be fair, that can be needed whatever the blower's age). It was clear the wanted to get it right, and she did as 20 or so minutes in I shot a load into her mouth. The mama then reappeared to give a tutorial on cleanup, wiping me down to show the how it was done. Nothing like on-the-job training! As I left I hugged and handed the trainee a little tip.

My goal for this trip was to try out the Gentleman's Club scene, which did not figure into my last visit a decade ago, and in fact which I had not heard of until I watched some YouTube videos preparing for this visit. With a Koh Larn excursion and the Saturday night-Sunday alcohol ban, it took a couple of days for me to dive in.

I dove in deep, into Camel Toe on Monday afternoon. It can only be described as the ultimate old school roadhouse, something like a trucker bar. At first glance things seemed pretty tame, with only a handful of girls present, but when I eventually noticed a topless girl playing pool I knew I was in the right place.

Sitting back in a barstool on a high table at the back of the bar, soon Nan approached me, a cute, thick-bodied girl, and a lady drink opened the door for some French kissing and feeling the boobs she released from her shirt. While I did that I made eye contact with another girl playing pool, taller, cuter, and a bit thicker than Nan. She came over and Nan told me this was her sister plausible, but maybe she was just a cousin.

Either way, I couldn't resist the idea of getting it on with two sisters in public, so I bought a drink for Poi and unzipped my pants to let my hard on pop out. The sisters took turns bending over to apply their lips and stroking it when not sucking. This was perfection: drinking a cold beer while getting blown to the sounds of Kenny Rogers "The Gambler. ".

We had no privacy curtain around us here, but I wanted to go deeper with these kissing cousins (or whatever they were) and so we waited for the new bedroom at Camel Toe, just opened that day, to become available. When it did we occupied it and started in on hot threesome. I mean hot literally, because the air conditioning in the room was not working. We made due with a fan, while keeping the door open, covering the doorway with a curtain. I wonder if that did anything to prevent sounds from escaping and scandalizing the other patrons, the genteel clientele they seemed to be.

The fan and semi-closed door didn't do too much in terms of keeping us cool. Nan, Poi, and I got very sweaty as they alternated sitting on my face and sucking me off or riding me. These curvy cuties had a lot of energy, and I expended a lot of my own as I slapped their asses doing them in doggy. Well worth the thousand Baht for each of them plus 300 room fee. Camel Toe turned out to be the perfect way to dip my own toe into Pattaya's gentleman's club scene.

After Camel Toe I bolted for Catflaps, part of the same ownership group. If there was ever a "same same but different" deal, this was it. The fun of Camel Toe, but with an elevated air to it (girls in elegant red dresses, and a gleaming, modern lounge interior, plus cider on tap! A much less intimate place than CT, Catflaps had many more girls, at least 20 on a late weekday afternoon, and maybe that many guests. I had only two girls approach me in the first hour I was there, which was fine as I wanted to relax a bit without having to engage, but after a while I felt a little neglected. So a double edged sword. I eventually took notice of a girl sitting near the door, and as I craned my next around a column to check her out she noticed me and I motioned her over.

"Champagne," (surprisingly not her real name) had kinky hair and an almost Pacific-islander look to her (think sexy Moana). Plus very nice cleavage shown off by her low-cut dress. I bought her a sequence of drinks and we sat on a couch together, where she proved to be very charming and funny. Even better, she laid on the sexy kisses there in public, while I pawed at her tits and reached around to fondle her round ass. Not as raunchy as Camel Toe, but the kind of gentleman's club interaction I had hoped for. With a venue change to a room upstairs, the fun continued with a fun fuck, well worth the 300 Baht for the room and 1,500 for this bubbly girl.

This was the night I finished at Kink Agogo, mentioned in my opening post. But before that I was over on Soi Pothole not at a Gentleman's club, but at a lounge, specifically Whisky Lounge. There as I sipped a beer at the bar, I was approached by silky-haired, fair-skinned Nip. Sporting a fishnet outfit that showed off a lovely set of ass cheeks, and did nothing to hide a firm set of fake tits (red-heart-shaped pasties were needed to cover the nipples and ensure modesty), I readily bought a lady drink. Cambodian Nip was soft spoken and more reserved than I thought someone so fine looking would be. Ass grinding against my crotch was persuasive in convincing me to opt for a session with Nip in Whisky Lounge's only bedroom, which seemed to double as storage (I was impressed by the stock of ladies' shoes by the the very basic adjacent bathroom and shower). A sensual encounter followed (the phrase "nip it in the bud" now takes on new meaning for me), taking me in some new and pleasurable directions. (B400 for the room, 2,000 for short time).

Midway through my visit, I had barely scratched the surface of the Pattaya gentleman's club scene (not that I could have in a visit of just over a week). The one I really wanted to see was Maggie May on Soi Chaipoon, based on videos I had seen online and Discord group posts, but mostly because the Rod Stewart classic song was stuck in my head. I sought it out this afternoon as much a refuge as a playground, as I dashed from one bar doorway to the next dodging the rain, finally making it across the street to get underneath Maggie May's sheltering porch.

In my rush to get inside I did not get a good look at the girls sitting on the porch, and none were inside, after ordering a cider I figured I would have to go outside again and scout. No need, as I was brought a girl in her mid-20's with a bright smile, Ying. She and I sat down in and over her lady drink to chat and watch music videos. Well-spoken in English, she told me, that she had just come from Isaan at the suggestion of her friend who worked there.

While we sat close, this was no Camel Toe, as my arm around her was as forward as Ying let me get. So when I arranged to take her upstairs (300 for the room, 1,000 for her afterward), I was not surprised when the mamasan said that I was her first customer. But Ying lived up to the saying about the quiet ones being the wildest. Once she got me in the shower she knelt down and gave me an introductory blowjob. When we eventually moved to the bed, then came the rolling like thunder (more British '70's music on my mind, thanks Elton. . .). Literally in this case, since outside the window the rain came down as lightning flashed, making for a romantic setting as we cozied up, Ying was not shy here either, kissing deeply and riding me energetically, a scene I won't soon forget since the mirrors on the walls on either side of the bed produced a view of Ying after Ying bouncing on my cock as they receded into infinity.

On returning downstairs, I declined Ying's suggesting to sit for a while (and buy her a lady drink, naturally), because I had more clubs to see. I decided to stretch my legs and find one that does not get a lot of attention, Club M. The walk down a lane off Third Road passed some roadside shrines, and it was amazing how rural it felt a couple of blocks off the busy street.

Club M though was located on the ground floor of a newish looking residential building, and the interior was just as modern, with the feel of a chic lounge. It was to Maggie May's neighborhood bar atmosphere what slick Catflaps was to rough-around-the-edges Camel Toe. A handful of guys were there, paired up with ladies for the most part, and I followed suit when a lady came over to me. Fon was from Laos, around 30 years old, and her English was quite good. This and her friendly manner made for some good conversation at first, but eventually I wearied of the small talk, and while Fon was not bad looking at all, I just wasn't feeling a connection.

Another GC I read about was King's, and it sounded like it had Camel Toe's old school vibe. After making the walk to its Third Road location I discovered it did have a lot in common with CT it wasn't glitzy, and there was some raunchy activity with topless girls playing billiards. It had probably 10 women there, but unlike CT I didn't see any I liked, most older than I was looking for.

The next night I sampled another homey place, Hangover Lounge on an alley off Second Road. It was 11 PM and the neon lights and noise coming from inside suggested it was open, but it took a while for someone to let me in. It became clear that this was because of the good time being had inside, and the level of inebriation. It was a small group, the very friendly Australian owner and his Thai wife and a couple of Europeans, one of whom was interacting with one of the two girls on hand, a hottie stripped down to thong panties. The company was fun, the only disappointment being that after the other guy left and I bought Som a lady drink, she put her clothing back on. When the owner's wife asked if I wanted to go to a room with Som I begged off, seeing her level of booziness as a sure recipe for disaster. I think this would be a go-to place for me if I was a resident or regular visitor, it's very welcoming and fun, especially if you share the owner's taste in classic rock.

For my last two days in Pattaya I decided to go all out in exploring the Gentleman's Clubs. On a Friday morning I sought out Babylon Club on Soi Bong Koch, to find that it was the other Babylon that opened before noon. So I went a couple of minutes walk around the corner to the strip of GCs on Bong Koch 8. Some were open here in the 11:00 hour. At Purple I wasn't discerning enough and sat quickly with a slim slightly older and plain-ish lady and bought her a drink for her time and her willingness to feel me and let me feel hers, but I wanted to keep my powder dry for more appealing targets. I had the opposite problem at Amsterdam a couple of doors down, where the one available girl of the two there was rather cute, but though friendly (wiping my face with a cold towel on entry), even when I bought her a drink she acted like we were at a Sunday School picnic, resisting any hands-on exploration. It was just as well that this prudish encounter did not lead anywhere, since as we were sitting at a table the power on the whole block went out, leaving the place stifling, and any physical activity in an uncooled room on this scorcher of a day would not have been viable.

Things did not get any better at my next stops: I popped into Pirates to see an overly-seasoned crew, and at Bada Bing only one lady. I thought my fortunes had turned at 007, where pretty, slender young thing Ing happily accepted a lady drink offer, but clammed up like an awkward first date, and when I proposed some alone time she said that she did not go to the room. She was clearly just honey to attract the flies, but at least flies get a taste!

By this time Babylon Club was open so I returned there, and things improved a lot. The place was not busy but still had an energy to it. It also had ladies in slutty schoolgirl outfits, and I perved on a busty brace-faced cutie named Sunny, who has a smile to match her name. On the couch I had plans to liberate her titties from Sunny's tight white shirt, but she alerted me to a sign on the wall mandating tequila shots be purchased for this privilege. Forget that, I just took her upstairs, where in the excellent room (large, with big bed and a wall mirror; B350, B1500 for Sunny), where I got further than third base, a step beyond my record when I was in high school.

My main afternoon destination was Maggie May to see Ying, with whom I had been Line-ing about a reunion. But I had more exploring to do, and checked out Excite Club, just a bit down the soi that splits off Soi Pothole at Triangle Bar. At midafternoon it had a bunch of ladies outside the front door, a mix of ages and generally appealing; even the older ones were pretty damn sexy in hot outfits, like one in a kind of fishnet bodysuit. As I entered a friendly, slender 30-ish lady, Gip, joined me at the bar and I ordered a drink; she was very hands-on in all the right places (and me returning the favor on her) as we sat watching other amorous couples and scantily dressed ladies. As I mentioned getting a room, I saw across the bar a petite adorable doll of a girl, and asked Gip if we could invite her to join us for a threesome. Gip quickly called Urn over where we got cozy over another drink, and then moved upstairs (room B600, B1,500 for each girl). I lay down and the girls alternated sitting on my face and riding my cock. I made sure that Urn (who looked a lot younger than her 25 years) had the last turn playing cowgirl so I could look up at her super-cute face while she bounced her tiny body up and down to make me cum.

I didn't have far to walk to get to Maggie May, where Ying was expecting me. This time we ended upstairs in a huge room, and made good use of the big bed. This sequel had the same energy as the first, although maybe we were a little too active, as at one point we knocked on top of us a panel of a three-part painting of a near-naked lady.

The next was my final day in Pattaya, and I wanted to check off some final Gentleman's Clubs. I had to contend with the second-straight election weekend bar closure, which meant that a number of GC's were taking the day off and I had to find ones that were open.

Babylon Lounge of Third Road was one, and I turned up around noon. Three or four were on hand, and I went with the youngest looking of the bunch, curvy Ammy. Her fabulous big boobs and round ass wowed me as we shared a solid session.

But some girls in this business take you to the next level. That was the case with the last stop on my trip, LaPoste on Soi Lengkee (a street I was familiar with from having stayed in a hotel there years ago, and on this trip from my several burger meals at the incomparable Hunger Pangs). LaPoste gave off a neighborhood bar vibe, but unlike Cheers I wasn't greeted with a shout of my name, but with the 5 or 6 girls present lining up and calling out a Hello,. I knew what was in store from their skimpy outfits, and having seen two of them shirtless with boobs out and doing shots with other customers before they joined the receiving line. As I drank a cold beer, ladies came up to me one by one, either a little too chunky or otherwise not my type.

Until along came Wan, a slender, attractive lady in her late-20's. I invited her to sit with me, and as soon as I bought her a lady drink she slipped off her shirt to reveal very pretty breasts. Fondling ensued, as well as some of the most spine-tingling tongue kissing I could remember. The electricity extended to the room upstairs, where Wan showed off impressive BJ skills and flexibility. This was a session worth extending, and we ended up going two hours (B300 per hour for the room, B1,000 each hour for Wan), an ideal way to close out this Pattaya reprise.

[QUOTE=Frankypanky;2844515]Dude!

TF is the easiest way to get a fleelancer in your room! But, only AFTER 6 PM or 7 PM to be sure! Most of these girls sleep all day like vampires, bc they tend to wake up when the sun goes down, Hahahaha!

Please try again! And pick two or three girls, bc some 'need 1/2 hours to be ready' even if it's a 15 minute ride on the motobike-taxi.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]Ok. Thanks. This might be another factor because I am a mid afternoon tourist -and I wake up EARLY. So I will need to force myself to change.

Yeah I have had good luck in other countries online and my profile is very boring and same same but different. I'll be boots on the ground in a week!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844264]Once you send them money for nothing, you're just an ATM with a cellphone.[/QUOTE]Once you pay a girl 2000 baht for LT at your home you are labelled as an ATM. What's the difference?

I'll refer to my younger days when I used to date strippers from where I'm from. The second you have given them $20 for a lap dance it becomes EXTREMELY difficult for them to see you as anything more than a customer. It was MUCH easier to date a stripper who I never spent a cent on. Not even buying them a drink while they were working.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844268]
My advice: pay for services rendered, nothing more. Remember, there is no such thing as gratitude in Thailand, its an alien concept. "Jai dee" = " good heart" = "sucker".[/QUOTE]What about all the alcohol you buy your girls who drink at your place and pass out. Isn't that over and above paying for services rendered?

As someone else posted, you are only referring to Jai Dee from a bar perspective. Thai girls always want to help out other Thais in need. It's how they are brought up. They are extremely proud to be Jai Dee.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844265]I know one lady who posts photos of herself (when she was 18) on Facebook, collects Facebook friends from lonely men (she has 5,000), and then sends messages to them claiming poverty and she just needs 1,000 baht for food. When she amasses 30,000 baht, she buys gold for her Thai boyfriend.[/QUOTE]We really must hobby in a totally different Thailand. Maybe a different scale of girl quality and earning capabilities? Higher end gogo girls vs Soi Pothole girls? Anyone else see a difference in girl quality and behavior?

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2844242]I've had regular s who I've seen many many times. Not once has anyone asked for money for Buffalo Medicine.[/QUOTE]EXACTLY! Let me guess none of these girls are from Soi Pothole!

[QUOTE=IbnButtita;2844532]For my last two days in Pattaya I decided to go all out in exploring the Gentleman's Clubs. [/QUOTE]Great series of posts. My plans for next time visiting Pattaya were also for the GCs that I've recently seen some you tube videos on, but haven't visited previously. Sounds like an even better experience than I'd imagined they'd be. Almost like a visit to Bogota's Santa Fe clubs without the feeling that I might get killed. Only thing that could make it better would be if Pattaya was 70 degrees F. LOL Big in Pattaya favor is Thai food and massages too. LOL I only wish I was going to get there sooner!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844560]I'll refer to my younger days when I used to date strippers from where I'm from. The second you have given them $20 for a lap dance it becomes EXTREMELY difficult for them to see you as anything more than a customer. It was MUCH easier to date a stripper who I never spent a cent on. Not even buying them a drink while they were working.

What about all the alcohol you buy your girls who drink at your place and pass out. Isn't that over and above paying for services rendered?

As someone else posted, you are only referring to Jai Dee from a bar perspective. Thai girls always want to help out other Thais in need. It's how they are brought up. They are extremely proud to be Jai Dee.

We really must hobby in a totally different Thailand. Maybe a different scale of girl quality and earning capabilities? Higher end gogo girls vs Soi Pothole girls? Anyone else see a difference in girl quality and behavior?

EXACTLY! Let me guess none of these girls are from Soi Pothole![/QUOTE]You are thrashing around, trying to make a point about something.

Let me make it easy for you:

If a bargirl sends you a message with a sad story about needing money, the best response is no response. Once you respond, you will get more sadness. And if you send money, you get zero in return, and the bargirl will likely use the money for her gambling habit.

One lady I know racked up 2 million baht in gambling debts. Her Thai husband sold his farm to pay the debt. Once his money was gone, the bargirl left him for another man who has more cash.

As for "jai dee" among bargirls, nope. It's common for bargirls to borrow from other bargirls and never pay back.

I have 2 ladies sleeping next to me now. One is a borrower, the other is a lender. I guess the lender just accepted that she will never be paid back.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2844385]That is shocking. TF must be the easiest app to meet chicks (hookers and nonhookers) in the history of the internet. As the said, you need to have the premium first off. Most chicks message me first. If I message them first then I usually just say you cute or either reference something from one of their pictures. Then I ask what is their work and what soi they stay. Then I may say when I can see you. Then get their Line. I have noticed that most activity on TF is during the night and late night at that. Maybe 2 am. If you are putzing around on it during the day or early evening then my experience is not many chicks send likes or.

Respond at these times.[/QUOTE]Okay cool. Two comments about timing. And I am asleep at 2 AM. That must be the reason I suck at TF and I did have the premium paid version. I will simply change sleep patterns and message them at late night. Thanks!

[QUOTE=IbnButtita;2844521]I was winding up the night at Kink Agogo on LK Metro in early May, about midway through a 9-day Pattaya visit, the first I had been back in a decade. As I watched from upstairs the platform with the multi-girl lesbian tableau act descend to the ground floor, it occurred to me that this voyeur-ing was my most wholesome activity that day. Which makes the trip a success in my book, but my "want to have it all" mongering spirit makes me yearn for all the options that time and stamina made it impossible to pursue. Most of my past posts have been day-by-day accounts, but I'll put these trip reports together differently, by kind of venue, a bit like a certain Pattaya bar's discord site I had been devouring for weeks leading up to the trip, and since.[/QUOTE]All great reports. Thanks.

Excellent reports on Pattaya GCs.

My MO is similar, except I almost never use the onsite rooms, I take the ladies back to my place.

FYI, when a bargirl says she just came from Isaan, she might mean that she took a break from the bar to go home for a holiday, and literally just came back. But, I don't know "Ying" from Maggie Mays, so she either is using a new name, or is recently arrived.

BTW, there is no mamasan at Maggie Mays these days, one of the cashiers is sort of in charge.

My Thai girlfriend asked me to send her $1000 because the family buffalo is sick and the family is experiencing hard times. Should I send her the money?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844722]My Thai girlfriend asked me to send her $1000 because the family buffalo is sick and the family is experiencing hard times. Should I send her the money?[/QUOTE]I don't see why not. Is there a difference in paying old ladies with teenage Sons who only see you as a payday.

My post about Mr sins was in real time. 3 hours later he still at it-. Total Bill must be approaching 1,000 USA Dollars.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844722]My Thai girlfriend asked me to send her $1000 because the family buffalo is sick and the family is experiencing hard times. Should I send her the money?[/QUOTE]Wait till her grandads breath for the last time, so you can maximise the support with just one banking fee for three contributions at once. LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844722]My Thai girlfriend asked me to send her $1000 because the family buffalo is sick and the family is experiencing hard times. Should I send her the money?[/QUOTE]I thought all trolls are busy on facebook these days.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844722]My Thai girlfriend asked me to send her $1000 because the family buffalo is sick and the family is experiencing hard times. Should I send her the money?[/QUOTE]No, never! But if a girl asks for 300 baht for a coffin for a hamster who can resist that? Hamsters are so cute and fluffy!

Sorry IBN I haven't had time to read your stuff yet. I'm sure it's excellent as always. Nice to see you back on the forum.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844611]Excellent reports on Pattaya GCs.

My MO is similar, except I almost never use the onsite rooms, I take the ladies back to my place.

FYI, when a bargirl says she just came from Isaan, she might mean that she took a break from the bar to go home for a holiday, and literally just came back. But, I don't know "Ying" from Maggie Mays, so she either is using a new name, or is recently arrived.

BTW, there is no mamasan at Maggie Mays these days, one of the cashiers is sort of in charge.[/QUOTE]How much is the barfine normally to take them to your room instead of using the onsite room?

Hey guys,

I'm trying to educate myself on the scene there, and the bar girl concept seems like a decent way to go.

Any recommendations in Pattaya for some lower bar fines, but good quality of women? Is waking street pretty much the only play?

I know there are freelancers, and I'm sure I'll try that as well, but I don't want to overspend before we even leave the bar.

Any advice is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2844722]My Thai girlfriend asked me to send her $1000 because the family buffalo is sick and the family is experiencing hard times. Should I send her the money?[/QUOTE]You would think that a mature adult wouldn't be fooled by a request like that, but, in real life, loads of mongers get swindled by bargirls.

Especially lonely guys who go back home with fond memories of a bargirl and then send her money.

Don't send money to a bargirl.

Don't fall in love with a bargirl.

Don't buy gold for a bargirl.

Concerning marrying a bargirl, I know one lady who married a German, and went to live with him. But he gave her a month off for good behavior and she is in Pattaya, blowing her money on a couple of young Thai guys. And tomorrow, she is coming to my condo.

Note: I don't fuck bargirls who have Farang boyfriends or husbands, but I can have a little fun.

So, don't marry a bargirl.

Another "don't":

If you barfine a lady long time, don't let her take you to another bar on the way to your hotel. Bargirls will only take you to 1 of 2 kinds of bars:

#1: bars where ladies go to find customers. If you already have a lady, these places are usually boring.

#2: bars where the bargirl has friends, and she will hound you to buy them drinks.

If you must go to a bar with your bargirl, you pick the bar.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2844811]No, never! But if a girl asks for 300 baht for a coffin for a hamster who can resist that? Hamsters are so cute and fluffy!

Sorry IBN I haven't had time to read your stuff yet. I'm sure it's excellent as always. Nice to see you back on the forum.[/QUOTE]I would have done it. It is amazing what small gifts will do for a Thai ladies sex drive. I picked up a Thai lady in a bar in Hua Hin last year. While I was sitting there with her, an old lady came by selling lottery tickets. So I spent 100 baht on a lottery ticket for her. Her enthusiasm level increased 1000%. Well worth the 100 baht.

Got turned down by You Know Who last week.

She is Superior Looker. Up close and personal checks out.

Thanks for the kind words, it was good to recall the fun when writing these!

I was in town a bit too soon for the openings of Eden Lounge (the daytime GC at Escape Agogo in Treetown) and, and for Buzzin Lounge GC on Soi Pothole, anyone have any reviews on these? I obviously see a lot about these on the YouTube and Discord channels connected with the proprietors, but I was wondering about any firsthand experiences.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844611]Excellent reports on Pattaya GCs.

My MO is similar, except I almost never use the onsite rooms, I take the ladies back to my place.[/QUOTE]I think CaliGuy also asked this: in which case. How much do you barfine?

Also. As some of the GCs close early. Why would you bar fine rather than come to an arrangement with the girl to meet you outside later? I suppose if you are a regular at these clubs (and from your many posts in this thread that is entirely likely) you would not want to get yourself banned for avoiding a bar fine or two. But I would imagine many tourists would arrange to see a girl later without paying the barfine. Would still be interested to know what the rate is. Must be lower than agogos?

[QUOTE=IbnButtita;2844932]Thanks for the kind words, it was good to recall the fun when writing these!

I was in town a bit too soon for the openings of Eden Lounge (the daytime GC at Escape Agogo in Treetown) and, and for Buzzin Lounge GC on Soi Pothole, anyone have any reviews on these? I obviously see a lot about these on the YouTube and Discord channels connected with the proprietors, but I was wondering about any firsthand experiences.[/QUOTE]I am joining the list of those applauding your excellent reports on CGs. I tried several of them last October (and return in a few weeks) and my preference was High Rollers which I don't think was on your list but its almost next door to Maggie Mays (which I found too small). Whilst HRs is more expensive that the others I felt it showed. Two floors, two excellent standard pool tables and quality of the girls was good though that is obviously transient. The topless pool players in CT sounds fun. Need to try that! Did you go to Passion in Jomtien?

Based on your experiences of trying so many, I would be really interested to know what your listing of your top three would be and reasons for those choices.

Thanks again. Great reports. Very useful.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2844803]I thought all trolls are busy on facebook these days.[/QUOTE]FB does not have mongers who are afraid of guys sending girls money because those mongers believe that it would cause girls to not do P4P and result in them not getting any pussy.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2844949]I think CaliGuy also asked this: in which case. How much do you barfine?

Also. As some of the GCs close early. Why would you bar fine rather than come to an arrangement with the girl to meet you outside later? I suppose if you are a regular at these clubs (and from your many posts in this thread that is entirely likely) you would not want to get yourself banned for avoiding a bar fine or two. But I would imagine many tourists would arrange to see a girl later without paying the barfine. Would still be interested to know what the rate is. Must be lower than agogos?[/QUOTE]Besides that, those hoes go to the disco after work where you can get them for as little as 1000 long time.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2844863]If you must go to a bar with your bargirl, you pick the bar.[/QUOTE]THIS!

Fulfilling 10 characters minimum.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2844854]How much is the barfine normally to take them to your room instead of using the onsite room?[/QUOTE]It depends on the bar.

But, when I barfine a lady, it's usually for Long Time. So I may pay up to 1,000 baht for the barfine.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2844949]I think CaliGuy also asked this: in which case. How much do you barfine?

Also. As some of the GCs close early. Why would you bar fine rather than come to an arrangement with the girl to meet you outside later? I suppose if you are a regular at these clubs (and from your many posts in this thread that is entirely likely) you would not want to get yourself banned for avoiding a bar fine or two. But I would imagine many tourists would arrange to see a girl later without paying the barfine. Would still be interested to know what the rate is. Must be lower than agogos?[/QUOTE]Some GCs on Soi Chaiyapoon have 1,000 baht LT barfines.

If you want to avoid paying that, you can wait until the bar to close, and the lady to come visit you afterwards.

But sometimes the GCs don't close at 1 am if there are still customers in the bar. Or sometimes your honey will get barfined before the bar closes.

And I am not a big fan of starting the fun with a lady at 2 am. I generally pull the trigger much earlier in the evening.

[QUOTE=OktoberMan1;2844859]Hey guys,

I'm trying to educate myself on the scene there, and the bar girl concept seems like a decent way to go.

Any recommendations in Pattaya for some lower bar fines, but good quality of women? Is waking street pretty much the only play?

I know there are freelancers, and I'm sure I'll try that as well, but I don't want to overspend before we even leave the bar.

Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]No such thing as low cost and quality.

Fat, old and ugly is what you get when go go 1,000 any kind of time. Long, short, medium. It don't Matter.

Believe me I speak Truth. No Agenda.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2845179]Some GCs on Soi Chaiyapoon have 1,000 baht LT barfines.

If you want to avoid paying that, you can wait until the bar to close, and the lady to come visit you afterwards.

But sometimes the GCs don't close at 1 am if there are still customers in the bar. Or sometimes your honey will get barfined before the bar closes.

And I am not a big fan of starting the fun with a lady at 2 am. I generally pull the trigger much earlier in the evening.[/QUOTE]I'm far too old to be starting at 2 am also but as some GCs end as early as 9 or 10 pm that would be fine to wait until then but then as you rightly say, very possible the girl will have found an alternative who is guaranteed as she is in his company and a 1000 bar fine is not at all unreasonable.

Is there any GC in Pattaya with karaoke? Lots of bars/clubs in BKK where you can go to play pool/darts/other games then have a bit of fun with karaoke before hitting the private room - great fun (e.g. Pimp/Elite/even Sena in Thaniya) but didn’t come across any last time in Pattaya with that fun twist. Think there is a video on YouTube of this in Amsterdam GC but its on Bong Koch 8 - bit far out of town and very small. Wondered if any of the main GCs have this?

You know you are spending too much money in GCs when investor pitches for new bars mention you by name.

Theses stroll s on Soi 6 are getting excruciating painful. Is. Not finding what I'm looking for.

I am however seeing an uptick in Heavy Girls. Hahaha. Hahaha.

Bargirls love to talk about their customers. You would be amazed how many stories are about customers who go long time but don't fuck.

I had 2 different ladies yesterday tell me their Farang husbands don't fuck.

One lady told me her #1 customer has stopped fucking, his preference is to be fucked in the ass by a dildo.

Almost every lady is delighted to have a customer who is blowjob only, they get enough fucking at home.

I did go long time with one lady for 10 days and didn't fuck her, because I didn't like her pussy. And it turned out I didn't like her ass, either.

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2845203]No such thing as low cost and quality.[/QUOTE]In all my years of paying for sex in countries around the world I have never found any correlation between cost and quality. I've had both good and bad times when paying the same price and learned that paying any kind of premium is no guarantee of better service. A $200 girl from an agency might wow you while a $400 girl in a sex club could leave you with blue balls.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2845478]In all my years of paying for sex in countries around the world I have never found any correlation between cost and quality. I've had both good and bad times when paying the same price and learned that paying any kind of premium is no guarantee of better service. A $200 girl from an agency might wow you while a $400 girl in a sex club could leave you with blue balls.[/QUOTE]Narrow it down sir.

Thailand is Weird. The 1,000 baht and under crowd are always without a doubt unattractive.

You can have the best service ever. The next time you will pay the same 1,000 baht. They didn't suddenly get Attractive overnight.

Quality to most refers to Looks. Even I can't tell service aspects till after payment is agreed.

[QUOTE=IbnButtita;2844523]
One of the best things about Flipper Lodge's location, besides the great sunset views, was the easy access to the nightly Beach Road freelancer market. I made the stroll most nights, even when I was not looking for company either worn out from the day or just wanting to get back to my room to relax just to check out the scene.

On Saturday night, my second in town, I was looking for a bedmate and across from around Soi 10 or 11 I spotted this adorable caramel-hared spinner under a coconut palm. She was friendly and agreed to 1,000 for short time, but then wrote me a message in Google translate about whether I had a "public" hotel. This seemed strange, until she indicated that she did not have her ID card with her. That was not necessarily a no-go at Flipper, as Ing did not have one and so the clerk had me sign a waiver for any losses and she was allowed up, but this girl proposed a short time alternative.

It turned out to be a tiny strip of rooms on a soi just across the street; I paid the manager 200 and we were in. It did occur to me the reason she did not have an ID, although she told me she was 18, and so the whole time I was with her I was kind of wary of having a police sting operation come bursting through the door. But by all evidence this cutie was properly seasoned springing from this spinner body were an Indian-temple caliber set of full, round, boobs. As for the session, mai pen rai with the authorities.

The sex did match my expectations though, as she was pretty tight down there and my equipment was flagging after an earlier body massage (more on that later) and a long beach day on Koh Larn. But this girl was smiley and playful, coming from the shower to the bed in her towel and asking if it was ok that she was a ladyboy (she was joking, but a similar comment over a decade ago on nearly the same spot was all too true, a shock for me lo those many years ago). She also agreed to pics, which will help fuel some fantasy daydreams even if the reality didn't live up to the anticipation.

But I would rank my Beach Road freelancer experience a success thanks to one lady, BB, whom I encountered the next night, Sunday. At 33 (an age that surprised me when she said it) she had more than a decade on the teenie from the night before. But her cleavage-revealing dress and soulful eyes had me hooked, and she agreed to a 1,000 for short time but no anal, as apparently some subcontinental clients' group appointments with her got a little too eager in that area.[/QUOTE]Would you recommend beach road experience? I have read so many different views on that and in some youtube videos I really saw a few hotties there. Your experience sounds great! Better than some of the negativ reviews I read.

Do you mind if I dm you?

[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2845203]No such thing as low cost and quality.[/QUOTE]What about all the Gaito girls in Ho Chi Minh for $10 to $20 US? What about all the Jakarta clubs that charge under 400,000 rupiah? No quality at any of those?

No one is forcing anyone to go to or remain in Thailand. Not like Vietnam is expensive to get to and stay. 25 USD for eVisa if one is needed at all, $100-150 US round trip flight. Hotels at $20 US per night in a prime location. Taxis dirt cheap.

You know Soi 6 has been shit starting maybe 2018. You have to walk up and down that Soi many times to find anyone remotely close you want to go with.

So I matched up with a decent looking civvie on a popular dating app and she works a factory job in the town of Siracha apparently. She says she can meet only in Pattaya on Saturdays which is her weekly off. I tried inviting her to BKK and offering her the taxi fare but she is not too keen on taking up the offer. I'm going to be in BKK next month only for 4 days. No plans of exploring outside of BKK.

Is it worth my time travelling all the way to Pattaya or her town Siracha for a date and returning back to Bangkok in the evening? Not sure if boom boom is on the table.

My gut feeling tells me its an utter waste of time.

[QUOTE=BigBootyLover2;2845483]Would you recommend beach road experience? I have read so many different views on that and in some youtube videos I really saw a few hotties there. Your experience sounds great! Better than some of the negativ reviews I read.

Do you mind if I dm you?[/QUOTE]I would not really consider it an "experience. " If you are going to Walking Street you can just go from your hotel, walk over to Beach Road and then head down. Can just look for girls along the way. Not sure about your standard but I do not think girls along that road are good looking. If you find a girl that you think is alright then I would just take her because it does not get better.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2844952]I am joining the list of those applauding your excellent reports on CGs. I tried several of them last October (and return in a few weeks) and my preference was High Rollers which I don't think was on your list but its almost next door to Maggie Mays (which I found too small). Whilst HRs is more expensive that the others I felt it showed. Two floors, two excellent standard pool tables and quality of the girls was good though that is obviously transient. The topless pool players in CT sounds fun. Need to try that! Did you go to Passion in Jomtien?

Based on your experiences of trying so many, I would be really interested to know what your listing of your top three would be and reasons for those choices.

Thanks again. Great reports. Very useful.[/QUOTE]Thanks, PFI. It is really hard to rank them, since they are so different in their setting and atmosphere; I am glad that I saw a nice range. Another factor is the number of girls available, and because I went early to some they were pretty depopulated. And naturally I liked best the ones where I had the best sessions, which is really dependent on the luck of the draw with the lady and our chemistry.

That said, my favorite for facility plushness was probably Catflaps (some of the small Bong Koch places hold their own despite their size), my most fun bawdy atmosphere was Cameltoe, LaPoste, and Excite (tie).

I do regret I never got to any of the stand alone villa type places in Jomtien like Passion, or even to any place on Soi Boomerang, but I just ran out of time!

[QUOTE=BigBootyLover2;2845483]Would you recommend beach road experience? I have read so many different views on that and in some youtube videos I really saw a few hotties there. Your experience sounds great! Better than some of the negativ reviews I read.

Do you mind if I dm you?[/QUOTE]Strolling Beach Road was a good way to mix up my activities, and you can't beat the price and simplicity. I was pleasantly surprised by the looks, though I did have to be selective. I wouldn't make it the core of my trip activities, but especially if you are staying nearby why not give it a try? Sort of like a Pattaya rite of passage.

Feel free to send a private message.

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2845556]So I matched up with a decent looking civvie on a popular dating app and she works a factory job in the town of Siracha apparently. She says she can meet only in Pattaya on Saturdays which is her weekly off. I tried inviting her to BKK and offering her the taxi fare but she is not too keen on taking up the offer. I'm going to be in BKK next month only for 4 days. No plans of exploring outside of BKK.

Is it worth my time travelling all the way to Pattaya or her town Siracha for a date and returning back to Bangkok in the evening? Not sure if boom boom is on the table.

My gut feeling tells me its an utter waste of time.[/QUOTE]Dude, Listen to your Gut.

Maggie Mays on Soi Chaiyapoon has purchased the unit next door, and will be doubling in size soon.

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2845556]Is it worth my time travelling all the way to Pattaya or her town Siracha for a date and returning back to Bangkok in the evening? Not sure if boom boom is on the table.
[/QUOTE]You coming to Thailand to meet a GF or are you coming to bang girls? If the former then yes this is a better hope on your short 4 day trip than going around banging P4 P girls. My guess is this girl already works at a bar in Pattaya even though she tells you she's a civvie in Sriracha.

For me on a 4 day trip just concentrate on the tens of thousands of available women in the Bangkok area. If she is truly a civvie ask yourself does it seem reasonable that this young cute girl has chosen me over the million men who travel to Thailand annually? Maybe you're under 30, fit, with a full lock of hair? If so, then maybe she truly is after you. If not, you really need to start wondering why me if not for money.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2845417]Bargirls love to talk about their customers. You would be amazed how many stories are about customers who go long time but don't fuck.[/QUOTE]

That's usually because the bar girl isn't attractive enough. More likely, looked good in clothes but when the they undressed the customer gagged. It's happened to me in Soi 6 when I decided to have a "headache" when the girl undresses. Save my energy for another hour.

[QUOTE=BigBootyLover2;2845483]Would you recommend beach road experience?[/QUOTE]

Of course you should try Beach Road! It's an eye opener. If there weren't so many ladyboys on Beach Road I'd be more open to it. It's the first thing I did in Thailand. Walked along Beach Road from Soi 7 to Walking Street. Went to Sapphire and Windmill and Beach Road became non-existent for me.

Remember when Soi 7 and 8 were good guys? There were gems galore in 2015 and 2016. I miss that. Then the ladyboys took over and now it's more or less dead.

[QUOTE=IbnButtita;2844932]I was in town a bit too soon for the openings of Eden Lounge (the daytime GC at Escape Agogo in Treetown) and, and for Buzzin Lounge GC on Soi Pothole, anyone have any reviews on these? [/QUOTE]I'll check all these out for you in a couple of weeks and let you know if they are really G clubs or a glamorized bar. Just give me the addresses on here or by PM. Willing to try others you want me to as well. I assume they're all afternoon bars since I only do G Clubs in the afternoons. I will not go to Pussy Club in Jomtien though cause it's just too far away even if I'm already in Jomtien.

Mr. Buzzin opened a G Club in addition to his bar on Soi Buakhao?

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2845556]So I matched up with a decent looking civvie on a popular dating app and she works a factory job in the town of Siracha apparently. She says she can meet only in Pattaya on Saturdays which is her weekly off. I tried inviting her to BKK and offering her the taxi fare but she is not too keen on taking up the offer. I'm going to be in BKK next month only for 4 days. No plans of exploring outside of BKK.

Is it worth my time travelling all the way to Pattaya or her town Siracha for a date and returning back to Bangkok in the evening? Not sure if boom boom is on the table.

My gut feeling tells me its an utter waste of time.[/QUOTE]Who can answer that? Nobody but you and her know the kind of connection you have and what you two are trying to establish.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2845639]You coming to Thailand to meet a GF or are you coming to bang girls? If the former then yes this is a better hope on your short 4 day trip than going around banging P4 P girls. My guess is this girl already works at a bar in Pattaya even though she tells you she's a civvie in Sriracha.

For me on a 4 day trip just concentrate on the tens of thousands of available women in the Bangkok area. If she is truly a civvie ask yourself does it seem reasonable that this young cute girl has chosen me over the million men who travel to Thailand annually? Maybe you're under 30, fit, with a full lock of hair? If so, then maybe she truly is after you. If not, you really need to start wondering why me if not for money.[/QUOTE]Damn man. So you are asking him what makes him think he is worthy to date a normal woman? He said she was decent looking. He never said she was young and cute as you put her. If she was working in a bar in Pattaya, how would she be off Saturday, and why would she have to tell him Saturday to meet? I have met plenty of chicks that work in factories and the shipyard in that area and yes they are always only available to come to Pattaya on a Saturday after work or a Sunday. No idea why you put her to be working in a bar in Pattaya. There are millions of normal chicks in Thailand that are not bar girls who do not mind dating foreigners.

[QUOTE=BigBootyLover2;2845483]Would you recommend beach road experience? I have read so many different views on that and in some youtube videos I really saw a few hotties there. Your experience sounds great! Better than some of the negativ reviews I read.

Do you mind if I dm you?[/QUOTE]Great experience s on Beach Road are few and far between. Again think Price Points. The Dreaded 1,000 baht.

Guys just want to Believe. Santa Claus, Tooth Geary does not operate on Beach Road.

One added thing about Beach Road Babes. You don't know who the Criminals are. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2845651]I'll check all these out for you in a couple of weeks and let you know if they are really G clubs or a glamorized bar. Just give me the addresses on here or by PM. Willing to try others you want me to as well. I assume they're all afternoon bars since I only do G Clubs in the afternoons. I will not go to Pussy Club in Jomtien though cause it's just too far away even if I'm already in Jomtien.

Mr. Buzzin opened a G Club in addition to his bar on Soi Buakhao?[/QUOTE]Buzzin does a Livestream every week from his Lounge. You can check out his Beauties Live and in Color.

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2845556]So I matched up with a decent looking civvie on a popular dating app and she works a factory job in the town of Siracha apparently. She says she can meet only in Pattaya on Saturdays which is her weekly off. I tried inviting her to BKK and offering her the taxi fare but she is not too keen on taking up the offer. I'm going to be in BKK next month only for 4 days. No plans of exploring outside of BKK.

Is it worth my time travelling all the way to Pattaya or her town Siracha for a date and returning back to Bangkok in the evening? Not sure if boom boom is on the table.

My gut feeling tells me its an utter waste of time.[/QUOTE]Otter waste of Time. You know what the avg factory worker looks like.

Think Maid. Not the French ones.

Jometiem Immigration. Massive fail.

They want number4. Rental of contract.

Number 5. House Registration.

Number 6. ID card if the owner.

I give up. Will try Bangkok Lak Si-. Was so easy a few months ago.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2845651]I'll check all these out for you in a couple of weeks and let you know if they are really G clubs or a glamorized bar. Just give me the addresses on here or by PM. Willing to try others you want me to as well. I assume they're all afternoon bars since I only do G Clubs in the afternoons. I will not go to Pussy Club in Jomtien though cause it's just too far away even if I'm already in Jomtien.

Mr. Buzzin opened a G Club in addition to his bar on Soi Buakhao?[/QUOTE]The bar is in Tree Town and is in fact up for sale now as part of the complex that includes Eden and Escape. See: [URL]https://www.escapegogo.com/[/URL].

All venues are apparently still operating as usual until they are sold.

The Buzzin Lounge is on Soi Pothole and has a completely different vibe. I went there once and left after one beer. The couple of ladies I had any interest in were not working that day. Just a personal preference, but I don't particularly care for how dark some of the gents clubs are--Buzzin Lounge included. I promptly went across the street to Amon's Bar and had a great time.

It's not just the Koreans.

After walking Soi 6 about a week I inquired about NIKI, smaller bar in Desire area. Not quite Baitoey s look level, more on par with Priew. Hot body to go with Very good face.

Seems she got bought out by Man from Japan. Happens People.

They do come and go. Here today not there tomorrow.

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2845556]So I matched up with a decent looking civvie on a popular dating app and she works a factory job in the town of Siracha apparently. She says she can meet only in Pattaya on Saturdays which is her weekly off. I tried inviting her to BKK and offering her the taxi fare but she is not too keen on taking up the offer. I'm going to be in BKK next month only for 4 days. No plans of exploring outside of BKK.

Is it worth my time travelling all the way to Pattaya or her town Siracha for a date and returning back to Bangkok in the evening? Not sure if boom boom is on the table.

My gut feeling tells me its an utter waste of time.[/QUOTE]Just hope the date turns to a fun filled night of sex. Maybe explorer can share some of his tactics on how to let little Johnny into the clam!

PART 2: Pattaya. Part 1 is in Bangkok thread. I was in total for about 3 weeks in Pattaya on 2 separate parts of the trip. First time in pattaya was just after BKK, second time was my last part in Thailand. I stayed both times very close to Subway intersection on Soi Boukhao. Which is a fantastic location.

Oh boy. I don't even know where to start. My plan before coming was to go to Soi 6 every day. Since for months I was watching videos of all those Soi6 videos on YT. I also watched almost every guide from Everyday Pattaya YT. Dude really drops so much knowledge about Pattaya it's insane. My plan before coming there was 1. Soi 6, 2. Gentlements Clubs, 3. Walking street.

First time I was in Pattaya I went every night for the following route. Soi 6 for drink or two, fuck one girl in the room above, go to Walking street to get something to eat, grab a few drinks in few bars in Walking street. Then go home either with bath bus or walking looking for a late night massage.

Both time I was in Pattaya I fucked in total I would guess around 15 girls in Soi6. Every bar I went to has short time rooms for 400 baht or maybe a little less. They all asked for 1500ST, I just smiled and said 1200ST. They all accepted that except one. She asked for 1500ST and wouldn't budge. But in retrospect. She clearly did not like me, I was just too stupid to understand that then. About their looks. You definitely have to pick between the uglies that jump at you. But there are pretty decent looking girls. With some you can even have a simple conversation. But to be honest most interesting part about them is fucking them upstairs. Almost all gave me excellent service. BBJ, CIM, Covered FS. Out of those 15 girls. I only had 1 bad experience with one girl that called me literally for days every time I walked. And I finally came to fuck her. And idk what the fuck happened in bed. But she almost started crying while I was fucking her. I don't know If I hurt her because my dick is really big for Thai ladies or what. Still finished in her mouth, gave her 200 tip and gtfo out of that bar just in case. Overall 14/15 pretty good experiences. Room, girl, and drinks in total can be 2000 baht. Which is a steal IMO. Only thing I wish in Soi6 was that girls could hold a conversation better before sex. But it's literally impossible because they sit 12 h a day drinking, and getting railed 3 times a day. I highly recommend Soi6 as by far the best value for money in Thailand. Just don't kiss them.

During that first time in Pattaya. Every night after Soi 6 I was in walking street going for drinks. But didn't take that many girls there. I only took one from another bar, I was paying for drinks. And somehow we simply ended up in my hotel. I never paid her for LT, she never asked. But I did pay for drinks night before, and morning after she took me to some "bar" where here friend worked. So I guess that was payment. Highly recommend walking home at night during closing hours on the road parallel to beach road (Sai Song I think), the one where baht buses drive to Terminal 21 direction. As one great man said "Drive slow homie, you never know home, you might meet some hoes homie". I was walking one night at 3 AM to my hotel to sober up since I don't normally drink. And massage girl grabbed me inside and took me upstairs for massage. Everything around was closed, and we were alone upstairs so she offered to fuck me. I was so surprised that I of course accepted. She asked how much I would give her. I said 2000, but in retrospect I was stupid. Could've said 1000. We used a condom she had. But it was laughably small for me, so she said quickly take it off, and I fucked her bareback. I aint stopping at that point even if God came from the heavens. First and only time I barebacked a girl in Thailand. CIM ofc. It's memorable to me because it looked like a completely normal legit massage place, girl was even in those traditional massage girl robes. But they do fuck there. Don't remember the name of the place though, but I guess it doesn't matter.

Out of gogos. I went to Pin Up and XS I think. And both times I didn't like it. Some prettier girls in Pin up were not interested in me. Only Koreans. Also. Some of the girls in Pinup were really sketchy looking age wise. I would not be surprised if some of them are not legal. I didn't take no girls there.

Now second time I came to Pattaya was the ending of my whole trip in Thailand and oh boy. I was definitely out of control this time and spending too much. I went to Soi 6 for a few times. But I decided to try Gentlemens clubs. I was so stupid for not trying it earlier. It's so relaxing, naked girls sit next to you while you drink, most of them even speak decent english and can hold a conversation. I learned a lot about Thailand in general from them. Only thing that maybe ruined my experience was that this part of the trip was just before Big Buddha. So I don't know how many girls left Pattaya for home during that period and how that affected availability. I tried Soi Bongkot and I think it's shit personally. Most of them were closed, I went to one club. All girls were pretty ugly and not interested. I went to Amsterdam GC. There was literally only one girl there, small thing, I ended up fucking her upstairs. Decent rooms, decent experience. BBJ, CIM, Covered FS. I can't for the life of me remember how much it costed. I guess around 2000 for the girl, and "pizza" (that's how it says room on receipt) is 300. I don't know if I came at a wrong time. Because Big Buddha was very soon. But my advice is to avoid Soi bongkot. I went to some other GCs not in Soi Bongkot after. I don't mention them, because I don't want to be too negative. But let's just say two key words. Old and fat.

After that I went to Soi Pothole. And I tried Highrollers and Den. Den was empty from customers, I took one girl for 2000ST I think. But I really don't remember anything about that, really unmemorable. Except the room which has 16 m2 shower. Wtf. High rollers looks incredible inside. Best decor I've seen, and pretty good atmosphere. Problem is that only 2 girls there are actually fuckable by my standards. One is younger sweet thing, and second one is. Oh boy. I took the second one, we agreed 2000ST and 400 room across the street. Jesus christ. That girl is something else. She is definitely top 3 of my Thailand experiences. We literally started fucking maniacally as we got into the room, she jumped all over me, she likes harder fucking, we didn't even close the curtains. Anyone could see us. I fucked her normal, doggstyle, legs up, pulled hair hair, arms, however the fuck you want, threw her around, slapped her ass tits, wherever. I was slapping her face. But she said I have to work tomorrow. "If I didn't work you can do whatever you want". I spit in her mouth and face and she liked it, I choked her with my dick until she was all slobbery. Most hardcore sex I ever had with a girl. Even more hardcore than Tulip in BKK. And the best part of it is, after sex she got all girly on me, and showered me thoughtfully, and we had 15 min conversation about life and stuff. I literally gave her 1000 baht tip. That's how much I liked experience with her. She went home day after that, and I left Thailand soon after. I don't think she works at High rollers anymore since she updated her Line with another bar. But what a great woman. I definitely plan to keep in contact with her.

Next day I discovered Heaven Above GC. Lord have mercy. I spent way too much time and money just sitting there and drinking with the girls, kissing them, fingering them, licking their tits, getting lapdances. I don't want to go into too much details because it is incredibly easy to doxx myself by telling my experiences there. But let's just say I tried 5 ladies upstairs, all DKF, BBJ, CIM, covered FS, 2000ST, room is 400 I think, all great experience. I don't remember how much is the actual room since I ran up the bill every time to 2-3 k just for the drinks. All the girls speak pretty decent english, can hold a conversation, I had drinks with at least 15 ladies there. Few at a time. None of them are pushy, when they bring you a drink. They show you the receipt. Every time. Incredibly well run place. Best atmosphere I experience in Thailand by far. Girls have pretty little costumes on, which goes off after some time. There are shows every hour where girls pretend to fuck each other, but they are really just kissing and messing around playfully there. Which IMO makes it more horny for me. I paid 2000ST but I didn't even haggle, I guess it could probably be lower. But I was out of control at that part of the trip. No regrets, it's just money. Again, I don't want to go into too much details because I don't want to doxx myself. This is must see / do / fuck in Pattaya IMO.

I definitely recommend Pattaya for mongering. Soi 6 and Gentlements clubs especially. I didn't even try normal beer bars. Didn't have time, didn't try Tree Town bars either. One thing I fucked up was not going to the clubs and ibar more and taking advantage that I'm in my 20's and getting freelancers there. Also, I don't believe there are "normal" girls in Pattaya. Only p4 p.

One thing I do have to say is. If you are weak mentally or not disciplined. I advise you all to stay the fuck away from Pattaya. This city will most definitely chew you up if you are weak. First time I was there. I felt I was in complete control. But second time I definitely went overboard. I don't regret it. But I'm also glad my visa was running out. Also. If anyone here is under 30 I highly recommend them coming here for some time. I don't know how to to say this more respectfully. Seeing some farangs in Pattaya. It made me go to the gym, work harder on my business. And generally motivated me to try harder in life. It's kinda eye opening when you see consequences of many bad life choices in a row in real life. Of course. Don't trust my word. Make your own decisions.

Part 3 coming in Phuket thread.

[QUOTE=Colin3124;2845743]The bar is in Tree Town and is in fact up for sale now as part of the complex that includes Eden and Escape. See: [URL]https://www.escapegogo.com/[/URL].

All venues are apparently still operating as usual until they are sold.[/QUOTE]There ya go. The only way to make money in Pattaya from a bar is by SELLING it. 16 M+. Thats 400 K euro for some inventory. HA!

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2845845]Just hope the date turns to a fun filled night of sex. Maybe explorer can share some of his tactics on how to let little Johnny into the clam![/QUOTE]I would advise telling her you are getting a hotel room in Sriracha. If she responds negatively, then you will know what to expect.

[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2845889]There ya go. The only way to make money in Pattaya from a bar is by SELLING it. 16 M+. Thats 400 K euro for some inventory. HA![/QUOTE]No way in San Jose are they Breaking even.

I will be visiting pattaya with my brother and his family and I'd like to sneak out one or two evenings for you know what. I'm wondering if there's a short term hotel someone could recommend that's a bit nicer than a typical short term hotel, but still not as expensive as a regular hotel. I will stay maybe 6 hours and have two girls, one early in the stay and then one later. I miss TF in Pattaya and plan to invite a couple girls to the hotel. I don't want it to be gross, but I also don't want to spend full hotel price when I'm already paying for the other hotel.

Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2846018]I will be visiting pattaya with my brother and his family and I'd like to sneak out one or two evenings for you know what. I'm wondering if there's a short term hotel someone could recommend that's a bit nicer than a typical short term hotel, but still not as expensive as a regular hotel. I will stay maybe 6 hours and have two girls, one early in the stay and then one later. I miss TF in Pattaya and plan to invite a couple girls to the hotel. I don't want it to be gross, but I also don't want to spend full hotel price when I'm already paying for the other hotel.

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Just book a normal hotel. Travelodge (soi15) is 1 K THB a night.

[QUOTE=SwiftyTillWild;2845888]PART 2: Pattaya. Part 1 is in Bangkok thread. I was in total for about 3 weeks in Pattaya on 2 separate parts of the trip. First time in pattaya was just after BKK, second time was my last part in Thailand. I stayed both times very close to Subway intersection on Soi Boukhao. Which is a fantastic location.

Oh boy. I don't even know where to start. My plan before coming was to go to Soi 6 every day. Since for months I was watching videos of all those Soi6 videos on YT. I also watched almost every guide from Everyday Pattaya YT. Dude really drops so much knowledge about Pattaya it's insane. My plan before coming there was 1. Soi 6, 2. Gentlements Clubs, 3. Walking street.

First time I was in Pattaya I went every night for the following route. Soi 6 for drink or two, fuck one girl in the room above, go to Walking street to get something to eat, grab a few drinks in few bars in Walking street. Then go home either with bath bus or walking looking for a late night massage.

Both time I was in Pattaya I fucked in total I would guess around 15 girls in Soi6. Every bar I went to has short time rooms for 400 baht or maybe a little less. They all asked for 1500ST, I just smiled and said 1200ST. They all accepted that except one. She asked for 1500ST and wouldn't budge. But in retrospect. She clearly did not like me, I was just too stupid to understand that then. About their looks. You definitely have to pick between the uglies that jump at you. But there are pretty decent looking girls. With some you can even have a simple conversation. But to be honest most interesting part about them is fucking them upstairs. Almost all gave me excellent service. BBJ, CIM, Covered FS. Out of those 15 girls. I only had 1 bad experience with one girl that called me literally for days every time I walked. And I finally came to fuck her. And idk what the fuck happened in bed. But she almost started crying while I was fucking her. I don't know If I hurt her because my dick is really big for Thai ladies or what. Still finished in her mouth, gave her 200 tip and gtfo out of that bar just in case. Overall 14/15 pretty good experiences. Room, girl, and drinks in total can be 2000 baht. Which is a steal IMO. Only thing I wish in Soi6 was that girls could hold a conversation better before sex. But it's literally impossible because they sit 12 h a day drinking, and getting railed 3 times a day. I highly recommend Soi6 as by far the best value for money in Thailand. Just don't kiss them.

During that first time in Pattaya. Every night after Soi 6 I was in walking street going for drinks. But didn't take that many girls there. I only took one from another bar, I was paying for drinks. And somehow we simply ended up in my hotel. I never paid her for LT, she never asked. But I did pay for drinks night before, and morning after she took me to some "bar" where here friend worked. So I guess that was payment. Highly recommend walking home at night during closing hours on the road parallel to beach road (Sai Song I think), the one where baht buses drive to Terminal 21 direction. As one great man said "Drive slow homie, you never know home, you might meet some hoes homie". I was walking one night at 3 AM to my hotel to sober up since I don't normally drink. And massage girl grabbed me inside and took me upstairs for massage. Everything around was closed, and we were alone upstairs so she offered to fuck me. I was so surprised that I of course accepted. She asked how much I would give her. I said 2000, but in retrospect I was stupid. Could've said 1000. We used a condom she had. But it was laughably small for me, so she said quickly take it off, and I fucked her bareback. I aint stopping at that point even if God came from the heavens. First and only time I barebacked a girl in Thailand. CIM ofc. It's memorable to me because it looked like a completely normal legit massage place, girl was even in those traditional massage girl robes. But they do fuck there. Don't remember the name of the place though, but I guess it doesn't matter.

[/QUOTE]Great reports, which city in Thailand was your favourite for mongering?

In your opinion, what is the best bar in Soi 6?

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2846133]Great reports, which city in Thailand was your favourite for mongering?

In your opinion, what is the best bar in Soi 6?[/QUOTE]All in all. Strictly for mongering, ignoring everything else - 1. Pattaya, 2. Bangkok, 3. Phuket.

Take that with following caveats. If I had more money or was aiming for best looking girls I would definitely put BKK first. But I was aiming for quantity and attitude over quality of looks.

I have no idea how any bar is even called on Soi6. Prices and services are all the same as far as I know. Only thing I was looking at is best ratio of looks / interest in girls.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2846018]I'm wondering if there's a short term hotel someone could recommend that's a bit nicer than a typical short term hotel, but still not as expensive as a regular hotel. I will stay maybe 6 hours and have two girls, one early in the stay and then one later. I don't want it to be gross, but I also don't want to spend full hotel price.[/QUOTE]How about booking a room at one of the guesthouses? They usually offer clean comfortable accommodations for less than 1,000 Baht per night. Lots of them to choose from east of Soi Buakhao on Soi Lengkee and Soi Chaiyapoon. There are also a few guesthouses near the Areca Hotel.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2846018]I will be visiting pattaya with my brother and his family and I'd like to sneak out one or two evenings for you know what. I'm wondering if there's a short term hotel someone could recommend that's a bit nicer than a typical short term hotel, but still not as expensive as a regular hotel. I will stay maybe 6 hours and have two girls, one early in the stay and then one later. I miss TF in Pattaya and plan to invite a couple girls to the hotel. I don't want it to be gross, but I also don't want to spend full hotel price when I'm already paying for the other hotel.

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]If only there were a section here called "Pattaya Hotels". Then you could find the answer to your question.

[QUOTE=Bunky;2846154]How about booking a room at one of the guesthouses? They usually offer clean comfortable accommodations for less than 1,000 Baht per night. Lots of them to choose from east of Soi Buakhao on Soi Lengkee and Soi Chaiyapoon. There are also a few guesthouses near the Areca Hotel.[/QUOTE]NDVti. Soi 7. 600 baht.

This is not a bad time to come to Pattaya. Rain seldom seems to last long.

A pity they tore up half of 2nd road. This is enough to create traffic jams even outside peak hours. The (unnecessary) resurfacing on Beach road is not finished either. Pattaya is going to become the city of endless road works and building sites.

I had been expecting to see the odd new doable black girl on TF but I saw none. I fear visas for Africans may have been getting even harder to get.

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2846018]I will be visiting pattaya with my brother and his family and I'd like to sneak out one or two evenings for you know what. I'm wondering if there's a short term hotel someone could recommend that's a bit nicer than a typical short term hotel, but still not as expensive as a regular hotel. I will stay maybe 6 hours and have two girls, one early in the stay and then one later. I miss TF in Pattaya and plan to invite a couple girls to the hotel. I don't want it to be gross, but I also don't want to spend full hotel price when I'm already paying for the other hotel.

Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]This is my recommendation, On Soi Honey down around the middle is a very small hotel called " New Star " I use the place during Covid there are only a few rooms in this little shop house. Coming from Soi Baukhao it is on the left side. The first time to my surprise I felt this was a nice design and style as any ST room place I have ever been in and I've been in a lot of them. Although the Love INN rooms are bigger I felt the Western design far exceeded my expectation. I think the rooms are like 600 baht a night. If you know Soi Honey a step or two away is a new American Hamburger place with a good selection menu.

So, headed to LOS next week. Have been many times before and partaken in many ST and LT situations before Covid. In a situation with a freelancer, these days, where drinks and food are provided over say 4 - 5 hours, then ack to my hotel for sex; what would you say is just compensation?

Same situation with a freelancer invited over to use the pool and hang out in the room, with refreshments provided. Assuming it's another 4 - 5 four day of fun and relaxation.

Just curious and don't want to set a new precedent.

Thanks.

Freelance Long time is 2,000 per Explorer.

Inexpensive I know. You figure it out.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2846434]In a situation with a freelancer, these days, where drinks and food are provided over say 4 - 5 hours, then ack to my hotel for sex; what would you say is just compensation?[/QUOTE]1200 baht.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2846434]Same situation with a freelancer invited over to use the pool and hang out in the room, with refreshments provided. Assuming it's another 4 - 5 four day of fun and relaxation.[/QUOTE]1000 baht per day.

Didn't see many lookers yesterday afternoon. Sucked too strong on the cannabis, scary. Really thought at one point I wouldn't make it down those steep stairs. Had to hang around waiting for the high to abide somewhat, in spite of my hotel being near Beach Road on Soi 12. In other mongering countries I'd have got robbed blind. Ended up doing 3 girls, 5 sessions in all (one girl 2 hours).

[QUOTE=XXL;2846482]Didn't see many lookers yesterday afternoon. Sucked too strong on the cannabis, scary. Really thought at one point I wouldn't make it down those steep stairs. Had to hang around waiting for the high to abide somewhat, in spite of my hotel being near Beach Road on Soi 12. In other mongering countries I'd have got robbed blind. Ended up doing 3 girls, 5 sessions in all (one girl 2 hours).[/QUOTE]Did you just hang around Soi 6 for the entire day? I'm surprised you got so much done.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2846458]1200 baht.

1000 baht per day.[/QUOTE]I invariably pay 2,000 baht to ladies to come over for a few hours (or the night). The ladies know its going to be 2,000 baht.

So, how do you arrive at 1,200 baht? Is there negotiation?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2846217]If you know Soi Honey a step or two away is a new American Hamburger place with a good selection menu.[/QUOTE]Best burgers in Pattaya. Right in front of the soapy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2844385]That is shocking. TF must be the easiest app to meet chicks (hookers and nonhookers) in the history of the internet. As the said, you need to have the premium first off. Most chicks message me first. If I message them first then I usually just say you cute or either reference something from one of their pictures. Then I ask what is their work and what soi they stay. Then I may say when I can see you. Then get their Line. I have noticed that most activity on TF is during the night and late night at that. Maybe 2 am. If you are putzing around on it during the day or early evening then my experience is not many chicks send likes or.

Respond at these times.[/QUOTE]About TF? How important is Verified Photos?

[QUOTE=SwiftyTillWild;2846143]All in all. Strictly for mongering, ignoring everything else - 1. Pattaya, 2. Bangkok, 3. Phuket.

Take that with following caveats. If I had more money or was aiming for best looking girls I would definitely put BKK first. But I was aiming for quantity and attitude over quality of looks..[/QUOTE]Interesting as I am trying to decide between BKK and Pattaya for my first 3 days in Thailand. So lookers in BKK, where exactly? I read your BKK report but couldn't really tell.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2846868]Best burgers in Pattaya. Right in front of the soapy.[/QUOTE]Nice I'll give it a shot.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2846856]I invariably pay 2,000 baht to ladies to come over for a few hours (or the night). The ladies know its going to be 2,000 baht.

So, how do you arrive at 1,200 baht? Is there negotiation?[/QUOTE]I arrive at 1200 baht because it used to be 1000 baht but I gave them a 20% raise. Sometimes there is negotiation and sometimes there is not. Whatever the case, I am not paying more than 1200 for LT. I have showed it time and time again. Same out at the discos. Sometimes a chick asks how much you give me but when they do not I still give them the same 1200 the next day (sometimes only the old 1000 when I do not have 200 loose baht.).

Also a chick yesterday would not come after I told her no makeup. Must be trying to hide something.

Chick that came last night said there are a bunch of chicks on Thai Friendly where they do not handle the app. There are managers. In her case she is actually gay and it was actually her girlfriend who I was chatting with and made the deal through. She did not even have our TF chat in the phone that she brought with her. She said there are 3 phones that they use.

Chick that came 2 nights ago was extra GFE and was trying to come back again last night. I am pretty sure she is a 3 holer too because when I rubbed lube on her asshole with my finger she did not flinch.

[QUOTE=Gtocrzy;2846884]About TF? How important is Verified Photos?[/QUOTE]No idea. I have been on it 13 years and have never changed my pictures and they are not verified. I do not think that is a thing to worry about in Thailand. Somewhere like Colombia where there are a lot of drugging that may be a concern. But there people will have verified pics and still drug your ass.

Since we are talking of TF I thought this could be a good post. I was in Thailand last month, had my share of fun and most of it was all arranged by a friend. I have no contacts now and was advised to spend time on TF to yield max results for a trip in September. Please pardon my ignorance & allow me to ask my set of Q's, your answer will help many out here.

1. not a premium member and it takes only 10 minutes for another message to be dropped, copy paste messages on an average 7-10 girls each day. I have a dozen on Line now.

2. confirmed with all (100% girls) but can they still turn out as LB's or post ops during meet, I want to avoid both.

3. I understand photos are touched up. How much should one discount them in terms of facial looks & body, how important is Verified Photos in their profile.

4. Going rate in Pattaya ST 1.5 k and LT 3 k-3.5 k, Bangkok 3 k and 5 k, some are in smaller cities or villages and want me to pay for their taxi + daily allowance. What is advisable.

5. What are the chances of bumping into a bad girl, I mean like bad intentions or where scene can turn ugly in the room, either they are on powder or have a man looking out for them.

6. Many have insta accounts which are private & locked, what's the purpose. Is it just to add followers or there is more to it.

7. Some are neither WG's or FL's just civvies, they want me to take them out to nice places. How easy is to get them to room. Are they really civvie's: because one girl was avoiding me and just to check I dropped a message saying I was in Bkok and and an hour later she wanted to join me in the room.

8. What does No ONS mean in their profile.

[QUOTE=Gtocrzy;2846884]About TF? How important is Verified Photos?[/QUOTE]Kinda important. At least you know most chicks are the same as on the photos (and this goes visaversa for them about guys). Just keep in mind this does not mean photos can not be filtered. However for verification you need to send a photo with a random hand gesture. So it's harder to use fake photos.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2846868]Best burgers in Pattaya. Right in front of the soapy.[/QUOTE]I like Prime Burger but I will give it a try next time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2846458]1200 baht.

1000 baht per day.[/QUOTE]Good luck getting a 2000 LT. I mean it's perfectly possible with the old unattractive girls. If you want the 20 years old spinner you are looking at 2000ST. Even average girls on TF won't accept 1000st anymore. Soi6 girls are 1500 baht now.

[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2846434]So, headed to LOS next week. Have been many times before and partaken in many ST and LT situations before Covid. In a situation with a freelancer, these days, where drinks and food are provided over say 4 - 5 hours, then ack to my hotel for sex; what would you say is just compensation?

Same situation with a freelancer invited over to use the pool and hang out in the room, with refreshments provided. Assuming it's another 4 - 5 four day of fun and relaxation.

Just curious and don't want to set a new precedent.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]In my experience thai girls want to come and leave as soon as possible.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2846868]Best burgers in Pattaya. Right in front of the soapy.[/QUOTE]As you know Jims burger is pretty good on 3rd, Road close to Klang. Out in Jomtien way down the beach, Justin who played softball his place on Soi 19 has much improved " just burgers " he has expanded his menu.

I was surprised to see the place while cruising up Soi Honey also haven't tried it yet but the menu at American Bar and Grill looks good on Soi Lengee.

I love this dude, he drops so much info about Pattaya it's insane.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-bjXBUkE8Q[/URL]

[URL]https://www.gentsclubs.com/gc[/URL]

Pattaya 1:

One of my ISG friend knew one Indian guy who stays in Pattaya and we connected in whatsapp. He made a very detailed iternary from hotel, cab from BKK to Pattaya and even the clubs we will go and also mentioned about LT with a super good looking girl for just 2500 TBH. This was too good to be true. He came to meet us in our hotel. We took a very decent guest friendly hotel which was slightly away from the loudness of walking street but actually it was wise decision. The rooms were really good and we probably paid approx 1500 TBH per person per day max. We booked two cabs and reache LKK metro.

We were a bit early so went to buy some ganja and again came back. Now the clubs were about to open. We roamed around a bit and enter Honey Massage building. Saw one side there is a stage and verious well dressed girls wearing various color tags. On the other side there were couches and when we entered some people in suites greeted us and told that prices for different badge colors. Price was short time 2. 5 k to 4 k ish most likely, I did not pay that much attention as I only went there because one of my other ISG friend was very curious about it and requested me to see it in ground once and report to him. Not my cup of tea though. Either I will pay more money to get LT or I will get a sensual BKK style massage. Just paying that much for short time sex does not make sense. In Sonagachi in Kolkata, I pay 3-5 k INR for 90 minutes but there I get a full package like striptease dances and sex, but only sex for 1 hour is a bit boring and not VFM for me.

Saw many girls on street. He knew the people at Kink quite well, so we first entered Kink. There were many nude and non nude girls playing with guys and many dancing on poles. When I sat one nude girl came and sat on my lap. I bought her a lady drink. It was not costly. All girls were wearing badges with number and I started making a short list. Earlier my friend mentioned that taking lesbian girls from Kink and doing LT with them is must do experience in Pattaya. The girls were well mannered but not very young but still on first day I decided I will do whatever my friend suggests. My other friends were not that impressed and they wanted to see other gogos. Our guide friend called the mamasan and asked her among the noted numbered girls who will do lesbian. But I think non agreed and then she recommened some girl. She had good makeup and in the nightclub light was not looking bad. She found another girl who is willing. Also while these discussions were happening some show started. We were at the first floor and there was a stage where a lot of girls were playing with each other and suddenly the stage was lowered. My friend asked me to go down and see. It was something that I have only seen till now in highend movies. I could not count and was neither in a position to count, but huge huge number of naked girls playing with each other in the stage and doing lesbian acts and rich people from the first floor are throwing notes on them. I will suggest to everyone, You take girl for LT / ST or not, visit Kink once to see this. This might not be new in Pattaya clubs, but to me it was a new chapter of my life written directly in front of me with wet ink.

Now my friend made a deal with the mamasan that the girls will leave the club at 12 and will reach Myst club at walking street and will party with us there till 3 AM. Then they will go to our respective rooms and stay there till 2 PM. I never saw that long LT. In kolkata my LT girls leave max at 8 AM and some even at 5 AM, so I was just listening the conversation. Anyways they agreed to stay till 12 PM. The price initial quoted was 5. 5 k for each girl and 1 k Bar fine or 5 k and 1. 5 k I did not rememeber much, but my friend negotiated all in 10 k and confirmed with the girls in front of mamasan that they will do lesbo stuff. So my deal was done.

Then we roamed some other gogos in that area to find girls for my other friends. One of them took two girls from Mamasans dolls near Kink, I think he paid 7 k to each girl including bar fine and similar deal structure. Other two people visited almost all the gogos and then again came back to Mamasans dolls and took girls for 7 k each more or less.

It took quite some time to do all these deals and we reached MYST at around 12 30 AM. My girls were already there but I could not locate them. It was very crowded and also it was super loud. I thought I won't be able to find them. The mamasan gave some contact on a piece of paper, I was calling them but they were not picking up, But suddenly out of nowwhere my girls came and I was happy. We took a VIP section at Myst by paying 12 k TBH. It was split among 4 people and I felt its fine as first I have two ladies and also I saved 3 k already in the negotiation for me. Next we partied for 2 hours, a lot of humping and cock grinding and kissing also. We felt literally like kings in the club from the VIP section. I never thought it will be this much fun. Initially when my friend proposed about the VIP box idea I was a little bit reluctant due to the cost but I was glad that aI trusted him.

After that me and my girls had some lebanese food in a tourist trap restaurants and we reached hotel. Here some unfortunate events started happening which was almost about to derail our plants (and actually derailed my two friends plan). The hotel rooms were very much identical and in our room keys the room numbers were not mentioend and I was a bit confused about my room number. Suddenly I saw other friends also arriving with their ladies and they also forgot their room numbers but somehow we logically deduced about our room numbers from past memory and one of the room opened. However my room was not openning. I had to call reception to get a service man to open it. We avoided the walk of shame but the service person judged us a lot.

Room opened and my grils went to take shower. While coming back they asked me to buy razors from a 7 11 and now I understood why. They came from bathroom after taking shower together and looking very nice and smelling good. I also felt I should take shower as I don't want to get called our a unhygenic smelly cheap (this I am proud of, but the unhygine calling matters) Indian.

Now finally it was the actual party time. I decided to be shameless and fulfil fantasies. My very last LT in India was not that successful as one girl got drink. Here girls finished multiple bottles but they were normal. I think pattaya girls have now got tolerance like irrish dockworkers. Actually even SG girls are also like that when I think back. But again now back to action, I asked them to not to fully strip rather dress sluttily and keeps boobs almost out of dress and I will strip them later. Now as agreed about the lesbian part, we decided we will play with one of the girl first. I started kissing her and another girl started kissing her lower lips. Then We also went to the triangle position. Now I had a fantasy of getting facesitted by lesbian girls. So I explaiend them and they obliged. I lied on the bed, On of them sat over by dick and started gridning and the other sat over my face and I started licking her pussy first over her panty and then I removed her panty to the sides. And they both were kissing and playing with each other. I played some sensual music on my laptop but I could hear the sound of their wet kisses and smooches. It was too much and I cummed once.

Then We cuddled on bed keeping them on each side of mine. I did a lot of motorboating and in many times was almost out of breadth. I have some autoerotic asphitiation fantasies and they had ample boobs and it was also done and cummed again. Then we cuddled and slept off. Morning our sleep broke at the sound of house keeping. One of the girl wrapped a towel and requested to come later, But I think they could see us in the bed nude. Then we agian started cuddling and kissing and more smelling and licking their body by me. Then I turned to one girl. I asked another girl to hug me from behind lick and bite me and also play with my dick by wrapping her hand around me. Me on the other hand had kissing the neck of the beautiful girl and also did some more breadthplay in her boobs. It was now almost 12, I did not have much energy and my standup call was also about to happen. The girls could stay more looking at their mood but I did not have much time. I asked both of them to hug me tightly and jerk me together synchronously. One was playing with my shaft and another was playing with my balls. Then I kissed the more beautiful one and looked into her eyes and blasted in a huge cum again. They dressed up and left and I started doing my standup call from bed.

Now a funny tragic thing happend. It seemed two of my friends who took single ladies were scammed. When they reached hotel around 4 am in morning they realised that they did not have condoms. So they kept the girls at room (after our room / key fiasco) and together went to buy condoms and when they came back the girls were kaput. However my guide friend assured me that he will get most of the money back, I was skeptical but I am willing to see what happens next. Finally day 1 at pattaya got concluded as one of the craziest nights I had ever, but little did I know that the next couple of nights will be more crazier than this. Continued not next FRs.

Pattaya 2:

After the fuckathon, we were all very tired and decided to take a rest. Also we had to get money back for the girls who dumped us. Evening time we went to LKK again but our local mentor was yet to arrive. We took a stroll to the beach area. Saw many girls. Also ventured to walking street again just for a walk. Yestreday did not give enough attention, this time looked it into detail. Saw russian clubs as well as Indian clubs like jannat and Kama with their irritating sales persons on road. Our friend called and we went to LKK again to argue with the mamasan. Our friend brought some of his friends for support as well. They told they won't give the bar fine as its loss for them also but will return the girl money. They returned part money on the agreed amount and told rest they will return after 2 days. Now next day we had a huge trip planned so did not do anything much and slept after coming to hotel.

Woke up in morning. My girl was apparently aligned for just 3500 TBH for the day. It was still difficult for me to believe till the girl arrives. Waited in the hotel reception and 2 girls from my threesome also arrived, apparently they were now for my mentors. One had to return though as per mother expired (legit verified later). One of our guys girl dumped him for a white guy and mentor somehow was arranging another girl for him. Also came to know we got 2 more girls for a club though for a very steep price approx 7 k tbh each. Anyways I was eagerly waiting for my girl. Mentor massage she arrived at the lobby but I was not able to find her and sent her my photo and then she came. She was wearing a jeans shorts, so tight that her bums could tear them anytime and she was wearing a green top. From the poking nipples it was very evident that she was not wearing any bra under the top. Finally the agnostic in me is turning atheist gradually and my belief in karma is getting solidiied.

We left for Reyong in a van and a SUV. Our great trip finally began. My girl sat beside me. Now I was in reality that this is really happenning. She was exactly my type also, not fat, not too skinny. While going she kept her head on my shoulder making the ride even better. Finally we reached Reyong and we took a private speedboat to Kho Samet where we had our rooms booked. Each of us crashed in our rooms. My girl was very tired so she wanted to sleep a bit, My daily workout was left so I was finishing that. Took a shower and I started doing some lite cuddling with my girl. She seemed horny also was grabbed my dick over my shorts which she removed after sometime. After workout I was also tired and decided to save things for night. Heard boys in their rooms already finished one round. Mentor earlier told the girls that we will go to swim and also take their photos in bikinis. So girls brought multiple bikinis. My girl changed to a pink one and we headed to the beach just outside our cottege. We swam for sometime, not much time for photo as we did not have much time as it was almost dark.

My girl mentioned that there is some fireshow in beachside restaurants. So while others went to swimming pool, we two took one of our rented bikes. The roads were good but till now in my adult life I have driven a motorized two wheeler only once. So decided that she will ride the bike and I will just site behind her. It sounded unmanly but I have a quote from Zombieland that don't be a Hero so went with that. Also just before ride, she took a shower also and I held her tightly (I was scared as well, though she seemed like an experienced rider). We reached the public beach. We strolled in the beach area for sometime holding hands. I felt like a boy who just found a girl friend. Found a fancy restaurant where fire show was supposed to start and our folks also joined us soon. The fire show though seemed enjoyable for girls more. As it was mostly super well built thai guys and boys douing various acts with fire.

After the nice seafood dinner I rode again the bike with my girl. I was holding her handbag, at this moment the unmanliness of this act was overcome by enjoyment the smell of her hair coming to my face due to the wind. I felt it is one of my luckiest monering days. But little did I knew that it would actually be one of the most dramatic mongering days of my life. Stay tuned please.

We reached home, my girl want wanted to drink little bit but not with group. But mentor wanted to have some drink party. It started nicely with girls drinking. Boys did lot of kiss and cuddling with their girls. I was also getting very intimate with my girl. She became extremely sigh when I took her feet and licked it publicly in front of everyone. All these was going good, suddenly one of the other girl stripped her dress and came all over me. In the meantime my girl went to washroom and now the other girl actually came on my lap and took my head in her boobs. I thouht as a courtsey I should engage in the behavior but I should have known that these will lead me to my doom. Suddenly when my girl came back her attitude changed. She started avoiding me. I was completely clueless. She started drinkiing heavily. She wrote something in her phone and showed me that I does not like that I was playing with the other girl and if I feel sleepy I just just go to some room and sleep. I was very confused and told her I will sleep with her and wait for her. She kept on ignoring me. Lot of further crazy things happend. One of our boys got extremely drunk and started smoking ganja also. Only one guy was still enjoying properly with his lady. Now other the girls started completely ignoring us and the girl who stripped became extremely crazy she was saying if someone is getting drunk she will rub her pussy over his mouth and almost about to do that with my drunk friend. The party was out of hand. It was almost 3 am now and mentor somehow decided that he does not want to have sex and rather he wants to give way his lady to one of us boys so that the boy can get a lesbian threesome. One of us took her and they three went to a room. But forgot to close the window curtains and many of the acts were visible from outside.

We came back to my room. Mentor adviced me to play play mental trick with my girl now by ignoring her. Initially I came and I asked should I take shower and she told "upto you" in her thai accent. As a person who is still in a on off relationship with my ex wife I know where this is going. She is going to pussy / sex deny me as a punishment. And similar to my ex wife, I am now getting punished for something which I am not explicitly forbidden. Anyways I mentally wrote off, took shower and went outside the cottage to see some sea. Actually I do miss these troplical places. It seemed now the trick was getting work. She came out and asked me when I plan to sleep. We came to bed. I saw she now has changed to a black satin night dress without panties. But she turned to the other side of the bed and starting doing things with her phone. I asked her can I hug her and she said "upto you" again. She lightly hugged her and also started playing with her hair. She was still in Karen mode. And I know today no point being a Chad. So asked her lets solve it and after a lot of discussion she finally turned partly and started lieing facing upwards. I am stilling careesing her. Now suddenly I see her mood is changing. Note she is not drunk even after she drank most of the whiskey and soju and voka, its surprising. Next she turned facing me now and hugged me tightly putting her head in my chest. We were not fully nude yet. Next we started kissing slightly and very soon it became wild. I also kissed her neck and now she was getting horny. I was too tired though to have fun now as it was almost 5 am now but felt lets do something interest and lets torment her. She undressed and removed my clothes also. At this time, she was in tigress mode. Now I did something which I have not done long. I started going down on her. She was perfecty shaved, and her vagina was smelling like nice fruits. May be due to the soap or whatever. All the mobility / fotness that I got and all the workouts that I did was now coming to test. I held her hands tightly and started licking her pussy. She started screaming (nothing was forced, it was all pleasure scream). I changed hand positions occasionally. Fondled her breasts and sometimes chocked her also safely and while my fingers or tongues continously worked on her. She was now begging to suck my dick. Honestly don't enjoy BBBJ that much. So instead inserted my other fingers in her mouth. She became wet multiple times and I inserted my 3 fingers in her vagina. Later I came to know that I almost reached the second stage of female oral orgasm. These activies went on till 7 am I think. Finally our bodies could not give any effort further and we slept hugging each other and set alarm for 9 as we wanted to shoot photos in the beach.

We both woke up. She got dressed in a very bright yellow bikini while I was in bed and I became extremely horny. I asked her to come to bed again. We fondled each other, licked and biten each other neck, She was now playing with my dick and I cummed. We went to the beach area. I followed her like a puppy with a camera. Took a lot of photos of her and together. Came back to Pattaya. Reached hotel, she rode away in her scooter giving flying kiss to me.

Pattaya 3:

After coming to hotel I was too tired. So did not do anything that day. Next day went to Soy 6 with folks. Roamed aroubd in multiple bars. After that We went to walking street. First we went to XS. Initially we were denined entry. But my friend knows the club manager and then we entered. I have been to some strip clubs before as I mentioned, but this was like no other experience. The place was huge but the girl per square meter was very high. Multiple rows of girls standing side by side with no gap but yet moving so smoohtly. Their skin is touching each other but I think laws of physics do not apply as there was like no firction at all. I was imaging how does it feel to rub my dick between them by creating some space. It was too hot just by looking. Almost all of the girls were looker. I have never seen so many good looking girls in one place under a roof. Also they were all dressed similar one row girl in black lingerie and another row in white lingerie. Music was also nice. I was very sad in my mind, why Indians are so bad behaved. I don't blame the club. Couple of days ago in a separate trip I sent my father to Pattaya also. In his google photo sync I saw he took non consensual photos. Anyways at least I am lucky to have a friend who made this experience possible. Next the music changed. All the girls removed their tops in a unison and started moving their bodies synchronously. It was a sight to see. I was not only full off lust and also sensual feelings, it felt divine, Like just took at them for eternity and sip my diet coke. Next we went to another club called Pinup. There also we had issue to enter but my friend helped to enter and again got similar experience. But personally I liked XS more than Pinup. After that we went to Jannat. Now compraed to what we have seen till now, this looked very lame. There is a WWE kind of ring and 4 girls dancing there in bollywood songs. I have nothing against my culture. See the babydoll song by sunny leone once. But compared to what I saw earlier this was worthless. But my friend told many thai girls come here to get guys and we parked it for our next pattaya trip tentatively in October. Also another thing I felt disgusted is seeing children there. I am myself raised in a very liberal household (imagine taking your father to thailand with you), but what the fuck! If you want to spend family time go to phuket, worst case Bangkok or fucking bali. Why crowd like this! We went to LKK after that, I wanted a massage. Was thinking honey but felt expensive. Then went to another so called parlour, but got to know unlike BKK it was only sex. So cancelled. Went to walking street area again and took a normal massage at aree massage. A nice young thai lady came. I was not in mood for anything just wanted a massage now. Here also I got bugged by my own culture people. Its clearly mentioned to be quite on the massage place and Indian uncles are speaking with each other across the curtains. Anyways my therapist was nice and I gave her a 50% tip also which made her super happy.

Pattaya 4:

This was my final night at pattaya this time. My choice was to get a girl from beach or call my drama queen lady. I thought lets do the beach girl in future trip and call my girl again. She arrived very late at 10 pm to my hotel. My friends already called older girls and they also reached walking steet. They went to aree massage to get a foot massage witht the girls. Looking at my girl in the reception my jaw dropped. She was dressed ina super sluttyone piece. Again no bra of course, and the dress was cut in so many placs it seemed what the dress was born modest and later it was given a punishment of lingchi to make kill all of its modesty. We reached walking street. While getting down from the taxi her dress moved up a bit and at least I (along with many on looker) were relieved that she was wearing panties at least. She was actually wearing a very lacy black panty and many things were visible (my word knowledge of female anatomy is still very limited). Me and my girl had a light dinner. We spoke very freely now. When we were eating it rained I was a bit worried that how I will show off my girl. But the rain god were gracious, just before the dinner was over the rain stopped. I felt very fortunate, in my entire trip let it be mongering or speed boat trips and swimming in sea, it never rained. People wanred me about traveling in may, but I took the gamble and it paid off. Our group assembled and we started going towards mist again. Now I also held my girls hand and was walking beaming with happiness like a boy in disney land whose mother just bought him a long cherished cotton candy. Saw many eyes looking towards my girl, well they SHOULD.

We took VIP again and had a lot of drinking fun. Given this was my last day I also drank some Jack Daniels. Tasting alcohol after many days makes you high very soon. So before that I took 4 shots of espresso. So was only feeling euphoria and I do not want to sleep also. Unlike these thai godesses who party whole night and somehow in morning resets, I am a mere mortal. Again lot of cock grdining dance, Me being a puppy in front of her and licking her leg and humping her leg in a public place. My friends removed their guards and tried to fulfill as much fantasies possible with their ladies. Around 3 am, we left the club and had dinner in a thai restaurant. Saw a white guy there itself in loud places, attending a slack call and doing some work on AWS console. I was amused at his work ethic, and also was seeing my immediate future from tomorrow. But at this time I have accepted in my life a saying that "This too shall pass"/ So enjoy as much possible while it lasts. We had modest fun conversations in the dinner and then we headed back to our rooms. Took shower and started making love with my girl. Even after drinking so much she was not drunk yet. I licked her pussy again in very detail. This time used my fingers also as per my friends instructions. Ie first phase just lick it and make it loose. Then lick and also at the same time enter my fingers and rub the other side of the clitoris which as per my friend stimulates the most. In practice, it paid off she had her orgasms very early this time. We slept in each other arms but I set alarm after couple of hours as morning around 10 am my car for BKK airport arrives.

I woke up early. Saw my thai beauty lieing beside me facing me hugging me. He smooth body touching my body. Her smooth thigh over my dick and my dick is try to be free but the warmth of her thigh keeping it wanting to be there. I saw my watch. Had almost 1 hour. I cuddled with her. She woke up and proceeded to give me a handjob. I asked her to kiss me and look me into the eye. Our eyes locked at each other which her hand without getting tired beating me off. I am about to cum multiple times she slows down. Finally I cum. She cleaned me up with a tissue and hugged each other again. I see my watch time moving towards the end. For a moment I am pray that my fake rolex at least for today gives a inaccurate reading and hope that their are more time left. But those chinese superclones are brutal. They don't have time for human emotions. I look at the second hand, till now it was one of the most smoothest motions I have seen. I rub the girls body and was thinking which was smoother. The fair thai girls cleaning waxed backed seemed smoother than my 28800 bph motion.

Took shower, dressed up and went towards the lobby. Kissed her one final time and left. I put on my googles in the car. After many times I got a girl with whom it was not just lust but I felt a connection. Not only the way her muscles contract when I give her a oral but also they way she makes funny conversation with me. I invited her to visit me in desert country, may be she will come, I know it will be a bad decision, but should we be calculatve in all decisions of life? While going to the airport alone in the car (friends had flight at different times, one of their girl even drove them from pattaya to BKK for free), I was reflecting on the past 2 weeks. Before covid I used to travel to random places In India a lot and I spent a good amount of time in US also just before covid. But Somehow covid restricted my vision. My life was just like earn some money and blow it in kolkata. I am not saying blowing money in kolkata is bad, but there is so much to see. The whole thailand trip I planned multiple times in past but each time due to some professional or personal commmittment it was cancelled. This time I was just talking with one of my this trips friends about workout advice and suddenly the topic channged and there were booking flights 5 days after and started this trip after a month. All the imagery was coming over my eyes while I was looking at the pattay roads and mountains, from the sensual massages in BKK, to having edibles worry free, and then having a angry working girl to giving her oral without protection, and not only mongering the boat trips to various islands, the snorkling, taking my old father also with me who in his all life took me to numeraous cheap places (taking parents to a forign trip is a very big thing in India, and I am quite sure his friends will tease him about the trip as well) - I felt this 2 weeks seemed like magic and I was desparately feeling it never ends. So anyone who feels whether to do trips like this or not, my only suggestion is please do. Be lucky that you survived covid, be grateful that the world has come back to normal again and enjoy like its the last 5 year of your life.

Similar things happen every year with me on durga puja holidays in kolkata. But Similar to that I knew I have to let it, because once you let something go then only you cherish how good it is and how different it is than the lone wank you have looking at porn alone in your house. So tears started to form at my eyes, but from the heart I was happy that I could FEEL love again, I could be HAPPY again. Thank you land of smiles. I will be back (Sorry terminator fans). For now I will just remember the ride in kho samet, holding my girl in the scooter at a almost full moon night while her hair waves on my face.

If anyone wants to join me in October (I will be traveling to Kolkata + Thailand), and August-September (I will be in US, Mexico, Columbia, Peru and Chile) please dm for mongering and travel both.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847068]In my experience thai girls want to come and leave as soon as possible.[/QUOTE]It has tended more that way for some years now. But there are still plenty who will stick around if they like you and if you show them a good time. By this point usually I'd just as soon have them go.

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2845556]So I matched up with a decent looking civvie on a popular dating app and she works a factory job in the town of Siracha apparently. She says she can meet only in Pattaya on Saturdays which is her weekly off. I tried inviting her to BKK and offering her the taxi fare but she is not too keen on taking up the offer. I'm going to be in BKK next month only for 4 days. No plans of exploring outside of BKK.

Is it worth my time travelling all the way to Pattaya or her town Siracha for a date and returning back to Bangkok in the evening? Not sure if boom boom is on the table.

My gut feeling tells me its an utter waste of time.[/QUOTE]So I mistakenly told this girl on line that there are plenty of scammers on bumble posing as beautiful Thai girls and how I know that I'm being catfished. After some time she immediately told me you are chatting to other Thai girls right. Sorry I can't meet you when you come to Thailand. Don't Easter your time on me etc etc.

She's already jealous even before we meeting!

Thailand plans to start giving away free money. Enjoy while it last, one day girls won't need your money.

'The Pheu Thai Party intends to reintroduce its 10,000-baht digital wallet programme once the government it is forming takes office, says deputy secretary-general Paopoom Rojanasakul. The policy involves a 10,000-baht digital handout to every Thai aged 16 and over, delivered to a smartphone. The digital money can only be spent within a four-kilometre radius of recipients' homes'.

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/politics/2627787[/URL]

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2847073]As you know Jims burger is pretty good on 3rd, Road close to Klang. Out in Jomtien way down the beach, Justin who played softball his place on Soi 19 has much improved " just burgers " he has expanded his menu.

I was surprised to see the place while cruising up Soi Honey also haven't tried it yet but the menu at American Bar and Grill looks good on Soi Lengee.[/QUOTE]Hunger Pang's on Soi Lengkee near the intersection with Bukhao is hard to beat, and is perfect for people watching.

[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2847116]So I mistakenly told this girl on line that there are plenty of scammers on bumble posing as beautiful Thai girls and how I know that I'm being catfished. After some time she immediately told me you are chatting to other Thai girls right. Sorry I can't meet you when you come to Thailand. Don't Easter your time on me etc etc.

She's already jealous even before we meeting![/QUOTE]Are you male or female? Are you 18 yet?

[QUOTE=XXL;2846482]Didn't see many lookers yesterday afternoon. Sucked too strong on the cannabis, scary. Really thought at one point I wouldn't make it down those steep stairs. Had to hang around waiting for the high to abide somewhat, in spite of my hotel being near Beach Road on Soi 12. In other mongering countries I'd have got robbed blind. Ended up doing 3 girls, 5 sessions in all (one girl 2 hours).[/QUOTE]Funny I found the Thai buds to be lacking quality in March. The majority being reject weed from the USA West Coast. Next time you get too high eat something sweet followed by caffeine. This Dutch remedy works well. I do miss the Thai weed from the 1970's.

Best.

Guido88.

[QUOTE=RedIce7;2847142]Thailand plans to start giving away free money. Enjoy while it last, one day girls won't need your money.

'The Pheu Thai Party intends to reintroduce its 10,000-baht digital wallet programme once the government it is forming takes office, says deputy secretary-general Paopoom Rojanasakul. The policy involves a 10,000-baht digital handout to every Thai aged 16 and over, delivered to a smartphone. The digital money can only be spent within a four-kilometre radius of recipients' homes'.

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/politics/2627787[/URL][/QUOTE]A half decent looking TG makes 20-30 k per month working in a bar minimum. Add drinks, ST and her freelance activities and she's probably doubled her money. Ain't no way she's going to give all that up plus the party lifestyle for 10 k.

A very good looking Thai girl in Pattaya would easily be on 100 k+ baht per month.

Beware my South East Asians brothers. I got into a agogo on Walking Street but since I was not Splurging I got told to leave after 30 minutes. Good lord.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847066]Good luck getting a 2000 LT. I mean it's perfectly possible with the old unattractive girls. If you want the 20 years old spinner you are looking at 2000ST. Even average girls on TF won't accept 1000st anymore. Soi6 girls are 1500 baht now.[/QUOTE]Its a wonder what kind of girls M are E goes for.

P.S. I know exactly. God help us all.

[QUOTE=RedIce7;2847142]Thailand plans to start giving away free money. Enjoy while it last, one day girls won't need your money.

'The Pheu Thai Party intends to reintroduce its 10,000-baht digital wallet programme once the government it is forming takes office, says deputy secretary-general Paopoom Rojanasakul. The policy involves a 10,000-baht digital handout to every Thai aged 16 and over, delivered to a smartphone. The digital money can only be spent within a four-kilometre radius of recipients' homes'.

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/politics/2627787[/URL][/QUOTE]All that this wallet will generate is inflation.

No impact on the bar scene except higher prices (but the baht will decline in value, so it would be a wash for Farangs).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2847015]I arrive at 1200 baht because it used to be 1000 baht but I gave them a 20% raise. Sometimes there is negotiation and sometimes there is not. Whatever the case, I am not paying more than 1200 for LT. I have showed it time and time again. Same out at the discos. Sometimes a chick asks how much you give me but when they do not I still give them the same 1200 the next day (sometimes only the old 1000 when I do not have 200 loose baht.).

Also a chick yesterday would not come after I told her no makeup. Must be trying to hide something.

Chick that came last night said there are a bunch of chicks on Thai Friendly where they do not handle the app. There are managers. In her case she is actually gay and it was actually her girlfriend who I was chatting with and made the deal through. She did not even have our TF chat in the phone that she brought with her. She said there are 3 phones that they use.

Chick that came 2 nights ago was extra GFE and was trying to come back again last night. I am pretty sure she is a 3 holer too because when I rubbed lube on her asshole with my finger she did not flinch.[/QUOTE]1200 LT for gogo girls?

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2847172]Are you male or female? Are you 18 yet?[/QUOTE]Trans, 18 going on 80..

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2847231]1200 LT for gogo girls?[/QUOTE]This has been covered before.

Take Palace last night. Maybe a Handful can command 7 k or higher for LT,. I doubt they go but that's here nor there.

A whole lot more than a Handful would chomp at the bit for 1. 2 k. Maybe not but you get the idea.

Mr E, can you show some pics of these girls who are willing to do LT at 1200. Since they are on TF its out in public space and you can share easily. Lets not inflate the asking, benefits us all. Qucik Q's, what age bracket do they fall in and are you regular with them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2847015]I arrive at 1200 baht because it used to be 1000 baht but I gave them a 20% raise. Sometimes there is negotiation and sometimes there is not. Whatever the case, I am not paying more than 1200 for LT. I have showed it time and time again. Same out at the discos. Sometimes a chick asks how much you give me but when they do not I still give them the same 1200 the next day (sometimes only the old 1000 when I do not have 200 loose baht.).

Also a chick yesterday would not come after I told her no makeup. Must be trying to hide something.

Chick that came last night said there are a bunch of chicks on Thai Friendly where they do not handle the app. There are managers. In her case she is actually gay and it was actually her girlfriend who I was chatting with and made the deal through. She did not even have our TF chat in the phone that she brought with her. She said there are 3 phones that they use.

Chick that came 2 nights ago was extra GFE and was trying to come back again last night. I am pretty sure she is a 3 holer too because when I rubbed lube on her asshole with my finger she did not flinch.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedIce7;2847142]Thailand plans to start giving away free money. Enjoy while it last, one day girls won't need your money.

'The Pheu Thai Party intends to reintroduce its 10,000-baht digital wallet programme once the government it is forming takes office, says deputy secretary-general Paopoom Rojanasakul. The policy involves a 10,000-baht digital handout to every Thai aged 16 and over, delivered to a smartphone. The digital money can only be spent within a four-kilometre radius of recipients' homes'.

[URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/politics/2627787[/URL][/QUOTE]Most bargirls are from Isaan, which is more than 4 kilometers from Pattaya. So, they will give their digital wallets to their mothers to use back in Isaan.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]Since we are talking of TF I thought this could be a good post. I was in Thailand last month, had my share of fun and most of it was all arranged by a friend. I have no contacts now and was advised to spend time on TF to yield max results for a trip in September. Please pardon my ignorance & allow me to ask my set of Q's, your answer will help many out here.

1. not a premium member and it takes only 10 minutes for another message to be dropped, copy paste messages on an average 7-10 girls each day. I have a dozen on Line now. [/QUOTE]
Take a premium membership. It's only 25 USD, which is less than the price for a ST. Those 10 minutes waiting time will be really annoying and impractical, and with a premium membership you get more features.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]2. confirmed with all (100% girls) but can they still turn out as LB's or post ops during meet, I want to avoid both.[/QUOTE]
You can select in the settings that LB's are not allowed to see your profile. And you will not see their profiles either. However, there are LB's who have selected 'female' when they signed up, but they are usually easy to spot. And you can block them, if necessary.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]3. I understand photos are touched up. How much should one discount them in terms of facial looks & body, how important is Verified Photos in their profile.[/QUOTE]
Verified photos can be helpful, but it's often only one or two in a series of photos they have uploaded. And we all know how different people can look in their photos. I have met really nice and good looking girls with only one or two pictures in their profile, and I have met rather disappointing girls with many pictures in their profile.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]4. Going rate in Pattaya ST 1.5 k and LT 3 k-3.5 k, Bangkok 3 k and 5 k, some are in smaller cities or villages and want me to pay for their taxi + daily allowance. What is advisable.[/QUOTE]
I've never tried a girl from another town, but paying for their taxi or bus fare, plus maybe 100 or 200 baht for drinks and food, seems only logical to me.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]5. What are the chances of bumping into a bad girl, I mean like bad intentions or where scene can turn ugly in the room, either they are on powder or have a man looking out for them.[/QUOTE]
Almost zero, I would say. I've never had problems like that with TF girls. In fact, I've hardly had serious problems with any Thai girl in almost 20 years of mongering there.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]6. Many have insta accounts which are private & locked, what's the purpose. Is it just to add followers or there is more to it.[/QUOTE]
Could be to add followers. Or they have more sexy and revealing pictures in their IG account, as these are not allowed in TF.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]7. Some are neither WG's or FL's just civvies, they want me to take them out to nice places. How easy is to get them to room. Are they really civvie's: because one girl was avoiding me and just to check I dropped a message saying I was in Bkok and and an hour later she wanted to join me in the room.[/QUOTE]
Difficult to say, it depends on what they are looking for. Some civvie's only want a serious relationship, and will not come to your room, and some are (also) looking for fun and ONS.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847035]8. What does No ONS mean in their profile.[/QUOTE]No one night stands.

[QUOTE=Ssseeking;2847098]

Similar things happen every year with me on durga puja holidays in kolkata. But Similar to that I knew I have to let it, because once you let something go then only you cherish how good it is and how different it is than the lone wank you have looking at porn alone in your house. So tears started to form at my eyes, but from the heart I was happy that I could FEEL love again, I could be HAPPY again. Thank you land of smiles. I will be back (Sorry terminator fans). For now I will just remember the ride in kho samet, holding my girl in the scooter at a almost full moon night while her hair waves on my face.

If anyone wants to join me in October (I will be traveling to Kolkata + Thailand), and August-September (I will be in US, Mexico, Columbia, Peru and Chile) please dm for mongering and travel both.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the trip reports.

If I had 11 days in Thailand, how many days should I split between Bangkok and Pattaya?

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2847261]This has been covered before.

Take Palace last night. Maybe a Handful can command 7 k or higher for LT,. I doubt they go but that's here nor there.

A whole lot more than a Handful would chomp at the bit for 1. 2 k. Maybe not but you get the idea.[/QUOTE]To be clear, you have paid 1200 baht to go with gogo girls LT?

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2847218]Beware my South East Asians brothers. I got into a agogo on Walking Street but since I was not Splurging I got told to leave after 30 minutes. Good lord.[/QUOTE]Which gogo and how much had you spent in 30 minutes?

Do you think you should be able to sit and watch for free given the huge overheads the bar faceS?

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2847348]To be clear, you have paid 1200 baht to go with gogo girls LT?[/QUOTE]I have no idea what he said. Like at all.

Superlove,

How are you getting them to ask you about dinner and nice places? They are conversing with you? Are you using a Thai English translator?

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2847341]Thanks for the trip reports.

If I had 11 days in Thailand, how many days should I split between Bangkok and Pattaya?[/QUOTE]I would say between 1-10 days.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2847447]Superlove,

How are you getting them to ask you about dinner and nice places? They are conversing with you? Are you using a Thai English translator?[/QUOTE]Google translate. It's on your phone if you have an Android. The girls are doing the same if their English is lacking a bit. Easy to notice if a response sounds / looks a bit weird. That's translated from Thai to English.

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2847341]Thanks for the trip reports.

If I had 11 days in Thailand, how many days should I split between Bangkok and Pattaya?[/QUOTE]It depends on your budget, goals and personal preferences. BKK is a bit more expensive than Pattaya. I went for a extended weekend (Fri till Sun). But I would not recommend that. Too crowded. Try Mon. To Wed. Or similar. Weekend can be very busy in BKK. So, three days approx. For me. Went to visit what Pho and the Grand Palace, plus Nana Plaza.

I like the Sea and Beachlife of Pattaya / Jomtien. BKK is too big, too busy, whereas in Pattaya everything is at walking distance.

But that MHO!

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847276]Mr E, can you show some pics of these girls who are willing to do LT at 1200. Since they are on TF its out in public space and you can share easily. Lets not inflate the asking, benefits us all. Qucik Q's, what age bracket do they fall in and are you regular with them.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=842758547451054&set=gm.1713832399088541&idorvanity=358560547949073[/URL]

To Be Fair. This doesn't even make the BOTTOM 10%. You guys who have been to PATTAYA know what I mean.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2847203]A half decent looking TG makes 20-30 k per month working in a bar minimum. Add drinks, ST and her freelance activities and she's probably doubled her money. Ain't no way she's going to give all that up plus the party lifestyle for 10 k.

A very good looking Thai girl in Pattaya would easily be on 100 k+ baht per month.[/QUOTE]You guys have a really inflated sense of what these chicks make. If that was the case then more of them would be riding around town in a Mercedes instead of on the back of a motorbike taxi. I have even met chicks that live in fancy places like Unix. Sure you may think they are living high on the hog until they tell you they live there piled in with 5 other chicks. 100,000 baht would pay my rent for the next 2 years. This is Thailand.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2847393]Which gogo and how much had you spent in 30 minutes?

Do you think you should be able to sit and watch for free given the huge overheads the bar faceS?[/QUOTE]It is common curtsy to buy drinks. He is occupying a seat that very well could be used by a paying customer.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2847348]To be clear, you have paid 1200 baht to go with gogo girls LT?[/QUOTE]Yes. What is the big deal about someone working in a gogo? Hookers are hookers. If you stood hookers from Soi 6, Beach Road, Thai Friendly, gentlemen's club, and whatever gogo next to each other in Central Festial, you are not going to know which one works where. There is nobody looking at chicks and separating them into venues when they get off the bus on Pattaya Nua.

I sent all a copy / paste message for a meeting & their LineID. Many replied successfully with ST rate and confirmed that they are FL. A few of them asked me to take them out for coffee or wine. I did not use any translator and they messaged on their own. See screenshot attached. Why does this surprise you, may I ask!

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2847447]Superlove,

How are you getting them to ask you about dinner and nice places? They are conversing with you? Are you using a Thai English translator?[/QUOTE]

I'll take premium membership 3-4 weeks before my confirmed trip, yeah the 10 min wait time can really get on to my nerves. I have changed my profile setting for LB's accordingly. Most photos on TF and Line match and I would assume the gap should not be much in real life. Basically get some sense of their looks. Some girls insist I should call them to bigger towns, I see this as an opportunity. If all is paid for they will provide good service in room and good company in city sightseeing, especially most cannot afford such a lifestyle on their own. Noted on the safety, but my guard will still be up. Probably want to become influencers or flaunt their IG following to others. One woman claimed to be a civvie changed her mind immediately when I told her I was in Bangkok. All this while I told her I was in Singapore for a holiday. She sent me a picture of her friend / sister, I believe she wanted me to team up. Thanks mogwai. One WG from a bar in pattaya quoted 2500 bar fine. I asked her to meet me directly in room. She quoted 1500ST day time only. Sounds like a good proposition, I can easily convincer her to go 1 k-1. 2 k. Just from their pics most girls are above average say 6/10 in my book and certainly bangable, some are even 8 and a few 9. Yes TF is a good bet and I do recommend to all mongers. BTW I get instant reply / answers from most chicks during the day and not at 1-3 am (Thailand time) one monger mentioned they reply seriously when they are at work which is during the late night sessions.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2847328]Take a premium membership. It's only 25 USD, which is less than the price for a ST. Those 10 minutes waiting time will be really annoying and impractical, and with a premium membership you get more features.


You can select in the settings that LB's are not allowed to see your profile. And you will not see their profiles either. However, there are LB's who have selected 'female' when they signed up, but they are usually easy to spot. And you can block them, if necessary.


Verified photos can be helpful, but it's often only one or two in a series of photos they have uploaded. And we all know how different people can look in their photos. I have met really nice and good looking girls with only one or two pictures in their profile, and I have met rather disappointing girls with many pictures in their profile.


I've never tried a girl from another town, but paying for their taxi or bus fare, plus maybe 100 or 200 baht for drinks and food, seems only logical to me.


Almost zero, I would say. I've never had problems like that with TF girls. In fact, I've hardly had serious problems with any Thai girl in almost 20 years of mongering there.


Could be to add followers. Or they have more sexy and revealing pictures in their IG account, as these are not allowed in TF.


Difficult to say, it depends on what they are looking for. Some civvie's only want a serious relationship, and will not come to your room, and some are (also) looking for fun and ONS.

No one night stands.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2847341]Thanks for the trip reports.

If I had 11 days in Thailand, how many days should I split between Bangkok and Pattaya?[/QUOTE]I'm coming next week for 11 days and my split is 2 days Bangkok 7 days Pattaya 2 days Bangkok.

It all depend on what you want. I personally like Bangkok massage parlors and nuru things and you won't find those in pattaya but I also like TF and freelancers in pattaya. If it's your first time in thailand do 2 days Bangkok and 2 days pattaya to see which city you like more.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2847348]To be clear, you have paid 1200 baht to go with gogo girls LT?[/QUOTE]I'm not Claiming Nothing. It's mRE.

What s fun is 2 guys getting long time at Cheap rates and one guy wants the price the other guy is Getting.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847563]I personally like Bangkok massage parlors and nuru things and you won't find those in pattaya[/QUOTE]They are found in any of the 6 soapies in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2847569]They are found in any of the 6 soapies in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Not even close. Bangkok is on a whole another level.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847572]Not even close. Bangkok is on a whole another level.[/QUOTE]In which case I'm missing out. Which soapies do you go to in Bangkok which are on another level. Or if not Soapies do you mean the likes of La Belle and Maria?

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847563]I'm coming next week for 11 days and my split is 2 days Bangkok 7 days Pattaya 2 days Bangkok.

It all depend on what you want. I personally like Bangkok massage parlors and nuru things and you won't find those in pattaya but I also like TF and freelancers in pattaya. If it's your first time in thailand do 2 days Bangkok and 2 days pattaya to see which city you like more.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

Let us know how you get on with your trip.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847548]I'll take premium membership 3-4 weeks before my confirmed trip, yeah the 10 min wait time can really get on to my nerves. I have changed my profile setting for LB's accordingly. Most photos on TF and Line match and I would assume the gap should not be much in real life. Basically get some sense of their looks. Some girls insist I should call them to bigger towns, I see this as an opportunity. If all is paid for they will provide good service in room and good company in city sightseeing, especially most cannot afford such a lifestyle on their own. Noted on the safety, but my guard will still be up. Probably want to become influencers or flaunt their IG following to others. One woman claimed to be a civvie changed her mind immediately when I told her I was in Bangkok. All this while I told her I was in Singapore for a holiday. She sent me a picture of her friend / sister, I believe she wanted me to team up. Thanks mogwai. One WG from a bar in pattaya quoted 2500 bar fine. I asked her to meet me directly in room. She quoted 1500ST day time only. Sounds like a good proposition, I can easily convincer her to go 1 k-1. 2 k. Just from their pics most girls are above average say 6/10 in my book and certainly bangable, some are even 8 and a few 9. Yes TF is a good bet and I do recommend to all mongers. BTW I get instant reply / answers from most chicks during the day and not at 1-3 am (Thailand time) one monger mentioned they reply seriously when they are at work which is during the late night sessions.[/QUOTE]I've also bought premium, will probably contact them closer to my trip.

You've picked a good time to travel to Thailand, since its low season you will have loads of options available. I do find that there are more freelancers in Pattaya compared to Bangkok on TF.

[QUOTE=Frankypanky;2847463]It depends on your budget, goals and personal preferences. BKK is a bit more expensive than Pattaya. I went for a extended weekend (Fri till Sun). But I would not recommend that. Too crowded. Try Mon. To Wed. Or similar. Weekend can be very busy in BKK. So, three days approx. For me. Went to visit what Pho and the Grand Palace, plus Nana Plaza.

I like the Sea and Beachlife of Pattaya / Jomtien. BKK is too big, too busy, whereas in Pattaya everything is at walking distance.

But that MHO![/QUOTE]I think you're right, will spend more time in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2847642]I've also bought premium, will probably contact them closer to my trip.

You've picked a good time to travel to Thailand, since its low season you will have loads of options available. I do find that there are more freelancers in Pattaya compared to Bangkok on TF.[/QUOTE]Don't contact them before you are ready to meet. Just message them "Hello, can you meet me for ST now?" if they say yes follow up with "1000 baht" then negotiate the price. For a young good looking girl the price for a short time is 1500-2000 that's why you start lower than that and never ask her how much because she will most likely ask for 2000+. If a girl tells you she will meet you after work or she's busy now and will message you later don't waste your time waiting for her she might never show up.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2847615]In which case I'm missing out. Which soapies do you go to in Bangkok which are on another level. Or if not Soapies do you mean the likes of La Belle and Maria?[/QUOTE]Soi 24/1 and soi 23, doki doki, kokoro, picasso, aurora. There are many more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2847486]You guys have a really inflated sense of what these chicks make. If that was the case then more of them would be riding around town in a Mercedes instead of on the back of a motorbike taxi. I have even met chicks that live in fancy places like Unix. Sure you may think they are living high on the hog until they tell you they live there piled in with 5 other chicks. 100,000 baht would pay my rent for the next 2 years. This is Thailand.[/QUOTE]Inflated? LOL have you seen the salaries these girls get paid just to turn up in these bars? I haven't even mentioned agency girls or the ones smart / capable enough to rope a farang into a sponsorship situation.

Is it really that hard to believe a girl working 25-27 days a month, doing anything from 3-5 STs per day plus drinks and basic bar salary isn't pulling in 6 figures in baht monthly? And of course with most of these girls the money gets spent as quickly as it comes in. Tattoos, boob jobs and other bits of surgery, Thai boyfriend, family debt, credit card etc. And yes, many of these girls do cruise around town in brand new cars, I've been in them (the cars and the girls).

And did I say every bar girl earns 100 k? No.

Hi seniors, I'm a newbie and have found about K Blog. I want to try out one of his birds but since I'm a newbie, I don't have much experience on how things work. Would appreciate some guidance.

1. Do I have to book hotel or does he provide incall service too?

2. Should I pay before or after the deed?

3. If it's incall, should I give my ID to hotel staff before going to the room?

Any other thing I should be generally careful about with SPs?

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2847643]I think you're right, will spend more time in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]When I go to Thailand now I go straight to Patts. Maybe Chang Mai.

[QUOTE=Ssseeking;2847098]......I invited her to visit me in desert country, may be she will come.....[/QUOTE]Pay for her return ticket, accommodation and other expenses and I don't see why she shouldn't come.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2847672]Inflated? LOL have you seen the salaries these girls get paid just to turn up in these bars? I haven't even mentioned agency girls or the ones smart / capable enough to rope a farang into a sponsorship situation.

Is it really that hard to believe a girl working 25-27 days a month, doing anything from 3-5 STs per day plus drinks and basic bar salary isn't pulling in 6 figures in baht monthly? And of course with most of these girls the money gets spent as quickly as it comes in. Tattoos, boob jobs and other bits of surgery, Thai boyfriend, family debt, credit card etc. And yes, many of these girls do cruise around town in brand new cars, I've been in them (the cars and the girls).

And did I say every bar girl earns 100 k? No.[/QUOTE]You are conflating some different jobs in your post.

Very few bargirls outside of Soi 6 are getting 3 to 5 customers a day. Most customers sit with the bargirl for an extended period before pulling the trigger, which limits her barfines.

More to the point, the top earners are those with multiple sponsors, and they typically stop working bar.

In general, income in Pattaya is like a pyramid, those at the top get big money, but they are few. At the bottom are many ladies just scraping by. So, its hard to generalize. And yes, there are Soi 6 ladies making 100 K a month, but they burn out quickly.

I am talking about gross income, but the more money a lady makes, the more she spends. I know one lady with 5 sponsors who gives her family 50 K a month, plus buys cars and homes for them. More commonly, Thai boyfriends (or Tomboys) are expensive.

Its the sponsorship that is the real moneymaker for bargirls, money for nothing. But, impossible for some ladies, such as those who mainly do ST, or work BJ bars. It is generally necessary for a lady to go Long Long Time to hook a sponsor.

So, don't think that your bargirl working on Soi Buakhow has a million baht in the bank. Even if she makes a million baht this year, it goes fast.

I'm visiting pattaya with wife next week need to know is she allowed in gogo and gentlemen clubs.

She very open and do they have any male stripclubs for her?

[QUOTE=LoveOne;2847765]I'm visiting pattaya with wife next week need to know is she allowed in gogo and gentlemen clubs.

She very open and do they have any male stripclubs for her?[/QUOTE]No problem taking her with you to gogos. I've already barfined at one gogo and taken her with me to another gogo. It's not at all unusual to see females with guys in gogos in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=LoveOne;2847765]I'm visiting pattaya with wife next week need to know is she allowed in gogo and gentlemen clubs.

She very open and do they have any male stripclubs for her?[/QUOTE]Yes. Yes.

I have seen solo Farang ladies in gogos.

I realized in this short time no need to get TF membership. Lots of girls are on basic membership and you can see their IG / Line or what's app no, get in touch with them directly through a personal message. Most girls are quoting 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT. Idea is to get hold of their contacts and make a database so when you land you know who and how many to ping if you land up with an unsuitable one. An example of this a girl quoted me 1500 for ST she is quite decent 6 or 6.5/10 and I countered with 1000 for 3 hours and 2 shots. At first she said 1 time finish is routine but I said am a seasoned monger plus lots of choices in Patt. She finally gave in and asked for a meeting. Had to pull out an excuse saying banging another chick at the moment. I mean there are tons & tons out there, best is to get your share of negotiation. Oops if you don't believe in it, my money is hard earned and I seem to have time for it. Already in talks with a girl to arrange an orgy (5-6 girls) with music and unlimited alcohol in my serviced apartment. No harm in disclosing fantasies and fulfilling them although at a slight premium. I say well worth it my friends. Attaching some photos, was careful tried to hide their identity as all claim ST- FL in their profile. Feel free to comment on them so I know where I stand.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2847734]You are conflating some different jobs in your post.

Very few bargirls outside of Soi 6 are getting 3 to 5 customers a day. Most customers sit with the bargirl for an extended period before pulling the trigger, which limits her barfines.

More to the point, the top earners are those with multiple sponsors, and they typically stop working bar.

In general, income in Pattaya is like a pyramid, those at the top get big money, but they are few. At the bottom are many ladies just scraping by. So, its hard to generalize. And yes, there are Soi 6 ladies making 100 K a month, but they burn out quickly.

I am talking about gross income, but the more money a lady makes, the more she spends. I know one lady with 5 sponsors who gives her family 50 K a month, plus buys cars and homes for them. More commonly, Thai boyfriends (or Tomboys) are expensive.

Its the sponsorship that is the real moneymaker for bargirls, money for nothing. But, impossible for some ladies, such as those who mainly do ST, or work BJ bars. It is generally necessary for a lady to go Long Long Time to hook a sponsor.

So, don't think that your bargirl working on Soi Buakhow has a million baht in the bank. Even if she makes a million baht this year, it goes fast.[/QUOTE]Dude, I didn't conflate anything. I didn't even mention Soi 6, Buakhow, Chaiyapoon, walking street, 13/2 or anything of the like. The statement was simply a good looking bar girl in Pattaya can and will clear 100 k baht per month if she wishes.

It's at least good that we've reached the agreement that 100 k is a very attainable figure for girls in Pattaya, particularly if they are younger, fitter and easier on the eyes. Those grannies at the beer bars though (the ones with geriatric farangs and live bands), I wonder if they even clear 15 k baht in a month.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2847814]Dude, I didn't conflate anything. I didn't even mention Soi 6, Buakhow, Chaiyapoon, walking street, 13/2 or anything of the like. The statement was simply a good looking bar girl in Pattaya can and will clear 100 k baht per month if she wishes.

It's at least good that we've reached the agreement that 100 k is a very attainable figure for girls in Pattaya, particularly if they are younger, fitter and easier on the eyes. Those grannies at the beer bars though (the ones with geriatric farangs and live bands), I wonder if they even clear 15 k baht in a month.[/QUOTE]Why the fook are you guys worried or interested in what working ladies make? Who cares.

The Bangkok thread is droning on about YT videos filming the streets and the Pattaya thread about ladies salaries and money.

WTF! Haha.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847661]Don't contact them before you are ready to meet. Just message them "Hello, can you meet me for ST now?" if they say yes follow up with "1000 baht" then negotiate the price. For a young good looking girl the price for a short time is 1500-2000 that's why you start lower than that and never ask her how much because she will most likely ask for 2000+. If a girl tells you she will meet you after work or she's busy now and will message you later don't waste your time waiting for her she might never show up.[/QUOTE]Yes, I meant to write that I would contact them on arrival in Thailand.

Thanks for the tips.

[QUOTE=DCups;2847701]When I go to Thailand now I go straight to Patts. Maybe Chang Mai.[/QUOTE]Why Chiang Mai?

[QUOTE=RainMania;2847814]Dude, I didn't conflate anything. I didn't even mention Soi 6, Buakhow, Chaiyapoon, walking street, 13/2 or anything of the like. The statement was simply a good looking bar girl in Pattaya can and will clear 100 k baht per month if she wishes.

It's at least good that we've reached the agreement that 100 k is a very attainable figure for girls in Pattaya, particularly if they are younger, fitter and easier on the eyes. Those grannies at the beer bars though (the ones with geriatric farangs and live bands), I wonder if they even clear 15 k baht in a month.[/QUOTE]Don't underestimate the earning Power of the Grannies and Aunties. Hahaha.

They have the skillset and Time to get Sponsored by multiple men.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847661]Don't contact them before you are ready to meet. Just message them "Hello, can you meet me for ST now?" if they say yes follow up with "1000 baht" then negotiate the price.[/QUOTE]Yep. It is like herding cats. Talking to them now telling them you will contact them 3 months down the road will be a big waste of your time. Half the time they don't even answer 5 minutes later.

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2847842]Why Chiang Mai?[/QUOTE]Frankly, it is cooler although the selection of girls is far less than Bang my cock or Patts.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2847822]Why the fook are you guys worried or interested in what working ladies make? Who cares.

The Bangkok thread is droning on about YT videos filming the streets and the Pattaya thread about ladies salaries and money.

WTF! Haha.[/QUOTE]And you come with a WTF post. Readers just can't win.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2847814]Dude, I didn't conflate anything. I didn't even mention Soi 6, Buakhow, Chaiyapoon, walking street, 13/2 or anything of the like. The statement was simply a good looking bar girl in Pattaya can and will clear 100 k baht per month if she wishes.

It's at least good that we've reached the agreement that 100 k is a very attainable figure for girls in Pattaya, particularly if they are younger, fitter and easier on the eyes. Those grannies at the beer bars though (the ones with geriatric farangs and live bands), I wonder if they even clear 15 k baht in a month.[/QUOTE]I was just clearing up the idea that bargirls are doing 3 to 5 customers a day, outside of Soi 6.

There are indeed top of the line gogo girls making 100 K a month, much from lonely men sending money for nothing.

The average bargirl on Soi Buakhow makes a lot less. 10 K in salary minus any cutbacks from not making her drink quota plus infrequent.

Barfines plus a small chance of getting a little money for nothing sent by a lonely man.

The actual amount is irrelevant because a big chunk gets handed over to her Thai boyfriend. Another chunk gets sent to her mother for taking care of the baby. Plus money sent to her adult son.

So, at month end, zero goes in her savings account.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847801]I realized in this short time no need to get TF membership. Lots of girls are on basic membership and you can see their IG / Line or what's app no, get in touch with them directly through a personal message. Most girls are quoting 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT. Idea is to get hold of their contacts and make a database so when you land you know who and how many to ping if you land up with an unsuitable one. An example of this a girl quoted me 1500 for ST she is quite decent 6 or 6.5/10 and I countered with 1000 for 3 hours and 2 shots. At first she said 1 time finish is routine but I said am a seasoned monger plus lots of choices in Patt. She finally gave in and asked for a meeting. Had to pull out an excuse saying banging another chick at the moment. I mean there are tons & tons out there, best is to get your share of negotiation. Oops if you don't believe in it, my money is hard earned and I seem to have time for it. Already in talks with a girl to arrange an orgy (5-6 girls) with music and unlimited alcohol in my serviced apartment. No harm in disclosing fantasies and fulfilling them although at a slight premium. I say well worth it my friends. Attaching some photos, was careful tried to hide their identity as all claim ST- FL in their profile. Feel free to comment on them so I know where I stand.[/QUOTE]1. Hard to judge when you scribble on their Faces. Is it a Computer Glitch. Hahaha.

2. From what I see they look like Soi 6 quality. Certainly not a Baitoey Level.

3. Now I think I know why these online Girls are inexpensive. Hahaha. The aren't that HOT. Just same thing you can get in Buzzin Lounge, ndtvi Bars, etc etc etc.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2847661]Don't contact them before you are ready to meet. Just message them "Hello, can you meet me for ST now?" if they say yes follow up with "1000 baht" then negotiate the price. For a young good looking girl the price for a short time is 1500-2000 that's why you start lower than that and never ask her how much because she will most likely ask for 2000+. If a girl tells you she will meet you after work or she's busy now and will message you later don't waste your time waiting for her she might never show up.[/QUOTE]Do you risk getting kicked off the app? I've had girls threaten to report me.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847801]I realized in this short time no need to get TF membership. Idea is to get hold of their contacts and make a database so when you land you know who [/QUOTE]Wrong. I get that you are bored and excited at home, but once again you are wasting your time. Most of those chicks are going to be nowhere around when you land and the ones that are around more than likely will not answer. TF (pattaya hookers in general) is for the most part a here and now app, not for arrangements sometime in the future.

Thanks guys, seems my sleeping patterns, long winded replies and quantity of requests have been my problem along with a riffle approach strategy . Not a shotgun approach - which is what I will start doing. So todays Note to Self:

TF:

Thai ladies are extremally Fickle.

Need to Order 3 and expect 1 to show.

"ST Now" is the new strategy. No more "Hi. Hello. Hi. Hello. ".

More Requests / More Likes.

Download Line / Figure out Line.

Order only when ready to Nut - This is the hard part. I am not patient. And why last trip I just said the hell with TF and went with Soy 6.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2848033]Thanks guys, seems my sleeping patterns, long winded replies and quantity of requests have been my problem along with a riffle approach strategy . Not a shotgun approach - which is what I will start doing. So todays Note to Self:

TF:

Thai ladies are extremally Fickle.

Need to Order 3 and expect 1 to show.

"ST Now" is the new strategy. No more "Hi. Hello. Hi. Hello. ".

More Requests / More Likes.

Download Line / Figure out Line.

Order only when ready to Nut - This is the hard part. I am not patient. And why last trip I just said the hell with TF and went with Soy 6.[/QUOTE]Yes sir. It doesn't matter if you're setting standard dates or ST dates, they'll be late and some just won't show and they'll have a plethora of excuses.

I recently got a message from a girl I was supposed to go on a date with that her mom was in an accident and needed immediate surgery and that shee needs 15 k baht LOL. I played a long for fun and told her I'll meet her and also bring her lunch. Her reply was thanks and if I wanted a drink from 7-11 hehe. These gals are vultures, treat them as such.

Line is everything in Thailand. It's used by 99 percent of people. The most important app you'll use while here.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2848009]And you come with a WTF post. Readers just can't win.[/QUOTE]Readers deserve better!

[QUOTE=LoveOne;2847765]I'm visiting pattaya with wife next week need to know is she allowed in gogo and gentlemen clubs.

She very open and do they have any male stripclubs for her?[/QUOTE]Are you some kind of a cuckold.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2848033]Thanks guys, seems my sleeping patterns, long winded replies and quantity of requests have been my problem along with a riffle approach strategy . Not a shotgun approach - which is what I will start doing. So todays Note to Self:

TF:

Thai ladies are extremally Fickle.

Need to Order 3 and expect 1 to show.

"ST Now" is the new strategy. No more "Hi. Hello. Hi. Hello. ".

More Requests / More Likes.

Download Line / Figure out Line.

Order only when ready to Nut - This is the hard part. I am not patient. And why last trip I just said the hell with TF and went with Soy 6.[/QUOTE]You are a quick study. Instead of ST though say LT. That is why the game is getting ruined. Many guys are asking for ST and paying the price they could be getting LT with. So since the guys are ordering ST the ladies are only wanting to do ST. Yeah you can leave all the pleasantries by the wayside. Once you know someone is a freelancer it is time to make your offer.

In this example from a few hours ago you can see I led by saying what are you doing in Thai (tam arai). She responded that she is freelance. I then said 1200 LT to which she responded 1500. That is probably a steal for most of you guys, but I know this is Thailand so I tell her I can not pay 1500 because I am not a rich holiday man so I can only pay 1200. She said okay let's take it to Line. No brain surgery involved.

As far as your sleeping pattern, I am now starting to see the most action around 8 pm, so do not change it just yet. I can have a chick over by 10, do the business and be asleep by midnight and wake up at 7 or 8 to hit again before sending her off with a funky fresh 1200 baht.

I was in Thailand from 13th till 23rd August. First 3 nights in Bangkok where no play; it was all work and was hell busy. I did manage to squeeze in some private time for myself. I have shared my report on BKK forum.

I had kept my schedule open without any bookings and was very keen on Phuket this time for 7 nights as have been to Pattaya umpteen times and this is my 3rd trip to Thailand in 8 months. Bkk Phuket return ticket was approx 2000 to 2500 THB, around same money I pay for BKK Airport to Pattaya 2 ways to my beach road hotel. But, then ultimately decided to get back to Pattaya as I like the vibe of the city and it's like a third home. Been umpteen times. My clarity was to have a relaxed and chilled out kind of 7 night and 8 days of Pattaya with a few sex sessions thrown in but not the only motive. I always stay in Sandalay Resort on main Beach Road, Soi 2. The staff knows me well and the property is right across the beach. [URL]Booking.com[/URL] upgraded my room but I was not happy as I like a particular room on 5th and 6th floor. I told them to change it and luckily my desired room was empty for which I paid another 1400/- THB for 7 nights which is a 505 Sq. Feet of ocean view room. Honestly guys, I have splurged the maximum on my trip out of the three in 8 months and it was the best. My office guys back in country was informed well in advance to only bother me one time before lunch and one after. I would reply to all their whatsapp messages, queries and Emails. My team handled my work well in my absence. I did a lot of things which I do not do at all in New Delhi; Yes, I am an Indian. I met only 4 chicks in pattaya; 2 are my old time regulars and 2 new chicks. I was a big fan of Indian clubs, all 4 of them and there too a few staff recognizes me but I did not go or spend much time there this time. They were jam packed and full to the brim. I hate jostling for space and like to listen to music with my whisky in a relaxed atmosphere. Cannot stand and keep adjusting my body to let others pass. I did go to Jannat, Kama, Tony and Raas but hardly for 15 minutes each. Yeah, Jannat one time tipped a waitress and she got me a stool to sit and placed it near the stairs wherein I could sit comfortably and rest my back behind at the wall. Them Mother Fuckers, a black label drink for 505/- Baht, that's the most expensive Indian club with a Heineken or a Budweiser for 305/- THB and cursed them. Believe me Gents, liquor was flowing freely at these prices, both beer and whiskey and the club being jam packed. Did have my 2 drinks there as was enjoying the music and conversing with a businessman who happened to be there for 3 days, his first trip to Pattaya. I spent my maximum time in Insomania, Lucifer and Republik. Only farangs visit them and there were hardly any guys especially in Lucifer and Republik. Republik is the cheapest and good as I had my 4 JDs with coke on my last night there and spent 2 hours. The manager took good care of me as I was there for 2 nights and he recognized me and informed that he had seen me umpteen times in Tony bar on my last 2 trips. Ibar you get a 50% discount if you happen to order a drink before 11 PM from Mon to Thu. I got my bills raised at the counter myself and encashed them even after 11 PM as I did not know about their offer beforehand. I do Love the music and ambiance of that Bar.

I picked up 2 new chicks, one from Club Raas and another one from Insomania. The IBar chick quoted me 2 K for full night and honestly I did not believe or trust her. I then asked her as to what time she would go back and she said 2 noon. Oh my god, I was not all keen to hold her till 2 PM. I thought that this might be a communication gap and she clarified the same on her phone. There was no question for me to bargain at this price. Although clarified the service part including DFK, BJ without condom and CIM. Ordered a beer for her and on the way to my hotel she picked up another 8 changs and a few almond packets from seven eleven. She drank 4 of them in one hour before I fucked her once and a CIM early morning before told her to leave. The 2nd chick was not pretty as could not see her face properly in dim club lights but decent service. A mom at 25 both chicks which I realized after they undressed but I am fine with that as I get what I want. After the first session with this chick, I paid her for full night as my body was hell tired and I wanted to catch up on my sleep and rest. She was snoring like crazy. The other 2 are my regulars and one of them dropped a client of 3. 5 K as I pinged her at 11.30 PM that I am in town and wish to meet her. In 5 minutes, was with her with my arms playing with her. I have always paid her 2 k for full night. I clarified with her and she just took my hand and got me out of the club saying that I know you well and you do not have to tell me. She had her breakfast with me as all my bookings are double occupancy with breakfast. This chick even joined me for 30 minutes upon my request in evening as I wanted to do some shopping at MIK Mall on beach road. I did want to go to Gentleman clubs to try them but my initial answer was not yes, hence did not go. Been to BKK ones couple of years ago like Pimp and all. That's expensive shit. My friend is a member of Pimp and he took me there. The 2nd chick I matched on Bumble when I was there last time and my FR is there. She stays in Rayong if I remember correctly and came in her own car. I got matched with 2 fashion models one on bumble and another one on Tinder. The bumble chick I was very keen on fucking her and she said 3 K for 1 hour and 6 k long time. I agreed on her 3 K price but the bummer was no DFK as she needs intimacy before that and a condom BJ as a gift to me as I am a nice man. I agreed on the no BJ part but put my foot down on DFK as cannot perform and have an erection without it. We continued to chat for 3 days but she did not relent so gave up on her. That chick was sexy as hell. A mixture of Thailand and Brazil. I even tried to convince her about the intimacy part as has done a lot of dating shit through seeking and Bumble here in my hometown and invited her for a drink, breakfast or a dinner before we proceed with private time. 2nd day she herself pinged me if I had changed my mind, so she wished me good luck and a bye. I got a lot of pings on Tinder, a few on Bumble and TF, although I did not take premium membership of TF. My idea was different as I was in a different zone. I did not meet anyone this time from any of these apps.

I had a chill time as I drank every day, slept in the afternoon for 1. 5 hours with not a care in the world, massages on all days; sometimes twice, 2 or 3 chocolate ice-creams every night, those sausages made on coal from a cart near my hotel post my evening massage, 2 cups of coffee from a coffee cart called Young Daily on Beach road just after Soi 4 outside the Mall where starbucks and Mcdonalds located and did my customary 2 hour reading below the umbrella and chatting with other tourists from different countries. That's my hobby, getting to know people and about them. Trust me guys, I do not happen to indulge into all of these activities in my country especially in New Delhi as I am hell busy in my work and business travels. It really is precious to me what I did this time. At 3 am on the last day post my JDs, I had 3 ice creams. Craving and greed it is, I know went overboard. Priceless for me, this kind of experrience and activity. Have put on a few Kgs. Will get back in shape in a month. Sex I get in plenty here in my country, no worries on that front. My FR is not sex laden but honestly, one of my best Pattaya trips with least sex of all that I have made to the Pussy land.

Regards.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2847276]Mr E, can you show some pics of these girls who are willing to do LT at 1200. Since they are on TF its out in public space and you can share easily. Lets not inflate the asking, benefits us all. Qucik Q's, what age bracket do they fall in and are you regular with them.[/QUOTE]SL this is a 22 year old gogo chick at what guys were saying before is one of the premier gogos in Pattaya, Sapphire. And this is the same chick when she is not at work. Just looks like a normal ass Thai chick like everybody else to me. When any of those gogo chicks are out at the store during the daytime, nobody is looking at them and saying wow she must work in a gogo so she will not accept less than 3000 baht. It is only under the club lights that this superior above-all-the-rest gogo phenomenon exists. Yeah you keep paying her 3000 while she is happy on her time off with 1200 from people that know better.

Now if people will show the same type pictures of 3000 baht chicks when they are not in the club.

It's hard to overstate the value of a "customer before" (previous customer) to a bargirl. If you keep social media contacts from a trip to Pattaya, if you return, your previous barfines will react to your more positively than the first time.

I know 3 ladies with Thai husbands who cannot go with customers Long Time (they allegedly "only drink") but can go with me indefinitely, because I am a "customer before". Plus, no condoms.

What you shouldn't do with social media contacts is have long conversations with bargirls. Just send messages about where and when you will see them. Once you are in Pattaya. Long conversations inevitably lead to money requests.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2848033]Thanks guys, seems my sleeping patterns, long winded replies and quantity of requests have been my problem along with a riffle approach strategy . Not a shotgun approach - which is what I will start doing. So todays Note to Self:

TF:

Need to Order 3 and expect 1 to show.

"ST Now" is the new strategy. No more "Hi. Hello. Hi. Hello. ".

More Requests / More Likes.

Download Line / Figure out Line.

Order only when ready to Nut - This is the hard part. I am not patient. And why last trip I just said the hell with TF and went with Soy 6.[/QUOTE]That will get you better results, it's the way I work to call them over and then wait a long time for them to show up. It can take 20 minutes to 2 hours so I use TF before the bars open.

I have had no problems with Thai Friendly. I make appointments with the girls and they show up. They even send my progress reports on getting a taxi and their route to get to me. I found a "regular girl" of Thai Friendly who supports herself with a real job. And we are having a great time together. Maybe I'll share how I did it in a later report.

On the other hand, I got girls that I met on Thai Friendly that I have moved over to line and WhatsApp that are asking me for appointments. I don't need to fuck five girls a day. I don't need them to be in their 20's and I cut to the chase in my conversations. Highest request I have received is 2000ST 5000 LT. Most ST offers 1000 - 1500. I have a girl friend for long term.

[B]Remember, I am ok and you are ok. You experiences do not invalidate mine and mine do not invalidate yours.[/B]

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2848039]Are you some kind of a cuckold.[/QUOTE]That never entered my mind, I was thinking his wife was a cuckquean.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2848051]SL this is a 22 year old gogo chick at what guys were saying before is one of the premier gogos in Pattaya, Sapphire. And this is the same chick when she is not at work. Just looks like a normal ass Thai chick like everybody else to me. When any of those gogo chicks are out at the store during the daytime, nobody is looking at them and saying wow she must work in a gogo so she will not accept less than 3000 baht. It is only under the club lights that this superior above-all-the-rest gogo phenomenon exists. Yeah you keep paying her 3000 while she is happy on her time off with 1200 from people that know better.

Now if people will show the same type pictures of 3000 baht chicks when they are not in the club.[/QUOTE]Not my type I wouldn't give her 1200 regardless.

They all look like shit in the daytime.

Nope. No brain surgery at all.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2848051]SL this is a 22 year old gogo chick at what guys were saying before is one of the premier gogos in Pattaya, Sapphire. And this is the same chick when she is not at work. Just looks like a normal ass Thai chick like everybody else to me. When any of those gogo chicks are out at the store during the daytime, nobody is looking at them and saying wow she must work in a gogo so she will not accept less than 3000 baht. It is only under the club lights that this superior above-all-the-rest gogo phenomenon exists. Yeah you keep paying her 3000 while she is happy on her time off with 1200 from people that know better.

Now if people will show the same type pictures of 3000 baht chicks when they are not in the club.[/QUOTE]Even at her Best this girl isn't that Hot. Hahaha.

Now you know why Mr E gets good prices. No offense.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2848175]Not my type I wouldn't give her 1200 regardless.

They all look like shit in the daytime.[/QUOTE]Yep, remove the the night time and dim lightiny effects and place them in the sunlight without their makeup on and the girl that looked like an 8 (10's don't exist) last night, looks like shit in the sun light, a girl you wouldn't even break your neck for. Only morons are tricked by the night time shiny lights and glitz and dropping fat stacks on average women their mind perceives to be notches.

Explorer's Pattaya Rule #1:

Don't get fixated on one lady in Pattaya.

There are 25,000 working ladies in Pattaya, don't get hung up on one.

You see it all the time, a lonely guy drinking alone in a bar, waiting for another guy to stop buying drinks for "his" bargirl.

Or going into a bar to barfine a lady, only to find she isn't there. Of course, the staff will say she has gone out to the pharmacy for a while, so the guy will buy drinks while waiting for her.

Don't be that guy.

Plenty of fish in the sea.

Yes, I know: your bargirl is different. Please.

Try out ladies in different areas, don't just go to the same bar or the same street.

South Asians come to Pattaya during Low Season, because many ladies don't have customers, and these guys are hoping prices will come down.

A typical opening bid might be 1000 baht for ST for 3 guys. Not 1000 x 3, but 1000 baht for 3.

These same guys might pay $200 for a dance with a South Asian lady in India.

[QUOTE=LoveOne;2847765]I'm visiting pattaya with wife next week need to know is she allowed in gogo and gentlemen clubs.

She very open and do they have any male stripclubs for her?[/QUOTE]Male strip clubs? Go to Boyz Town in jomtien.

It's coming to the end of Low Season, during which I have been doing 2 LTs a day. So now, I am cutting back my schedule of ladies coming to my condo for drinks and sex.

The plan is to only schedule ladies if they ping me, and then only if its convenient. No more 2 ladies per day.

Although the number of returning customers for the ladies in September is small, they will notice the uptick, and stop asking me to come to the condo. So, my schedule will be clear, and I can go out to a bar if I want a lady.

No, I won't be using Thai Friendly. I don't mind paying barfines.

You are absolutely correct, I guess I will not spend time anymore and will get in touch with them 1 week before confirmed travel plans. Great to get a perspective from a monger who is actually on the ground, thanks. What do you think on the quality of girls, just check out the pics so I know if I am on the right track.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2848027]Wrong. I get that you are bored and excited at home, but once again you are wasting your time. Most of those chicks are going to be nowhere around when you land and the ones that are around more than likely will not answer. TF (pattaya hookers in general) is for the most part a here and now app, not for arrangements sometime in the future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2848175]They all look like shit in the daytime.[/QUOTE]You never seen a natural beauty in Pattaya during the daytime?

Hahaa. You're over exaggerating big time or just mad at life.

Thanks Mr E, finally a picture. Nah, I am not turned on with her and I understand what works for you may not for me and vice versa. For me there is no difference between 1200 or 2000 bahts. The only thing that matters are the looks / body of the girl and the service provided in room. I don't care what I pay her because on the grand stage I am there to fuck her multiple times and that happens when she is desirable.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2848051]SL this is a 22 year old gogo chick at what guys were saying before is one of the premier gogos in Pattaya, Sapphire. And this is the same chick when she is not at work. Just looks like a normal ass Thai chick like everybody else to me. When any of those gogo chicks are out at the store during the daytime, nobody is looking at them and saying wow she must work in a gogo so she will not accept less than 3000 baht. It is only under the club lights that this superior above-all-the-rest gogo phenomenon exists. Yeah you keep paying her 3000 while she is happy on her time off with 1200 from people that know better.

Now if people will show the same type pictures of 3000 baht chicks when they are not in the club.[/QUOTE]

I wanted to upload their photos and wanted to hide their identities too. So Baitoey scores over Soi 6 good to know. They are not expensive at all and thousand to choose from. They themselves know that, I say they are not hot but definitely bangable for sure. At 1-2 k no brainer for me. An average girl is a 6 for me and I am in touch with a few 7 and 8's. A 9 has hit. Just trying to get more from her. LOL.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848016]1. Hard to judge when you scribble on their Faces. Is it a Computer Glitch. Hahaha.

2. From what I see they look like Soi 6 quality. Certainly not a Baitoey Level.

3. Now I think I know why these online Girls are inexpensive. Hahaha. The aren't that HOT. Just same thing you can get in Buzzin Lounge, ndtvi Bars, etc etc etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2848345]It's coming to the end of Low Season, during which I have been doing 2 LTs a day. So now, I am cutting back my schedule of ladies coming to my condo for drinks and sex.

The plan is to only schedule ladies if they ping me, and then only if its convenient. No more 2 ladies per day.

Although the number of returning customers for the ladies in September is small, they will notice the uptick, and stop asking me to come to the condo. So, my schedule will be clear, and I can go out to a bar if I want a lady.

No, I won't be using Thai Friendly. I don't mind paying barfines.[/QUOTE]According to Moogle High Season starts November.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2848332]South Asians come to Pattaya during Low Season, because many ladies don't have customers, and these guys are hoping prices will come down.

A typical opening bid might be 1000 baht for ST for 3 guys. Not 1000 x 3, but 1000 baht for 3.

These same guys might pay $200 for a dance with a South Asian lady in India.[/QUOTE]Have these South Asians ever hit Jackpot. I see them negotiating but never see them following a Girl. Got to Love the South Asians.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2848389]Thanks Mr E, finally a picture. Nah, I am not turned on with her and I understand what works for you may not for me and vice versa. For me there is no difference between 1200 or 2000 bahts. The only thing that matters are the looks / body of the girl and the service provided in room. I don't care what I pay her because on the grand stage I am there to fuck her multiple times and that happens when she is desirable.[/QUOTE]I gave that one particular person as an example. I did not say all or only chicks that look like this one.

Does anyone know of a clinic in Patts where I can get the testosterone shot? I want to try it. Thanks for any replies. I know it's available in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848467]According to Moogle High Season starts November.[/QUOTE]Yes high season officially starts in November, the effects of high season likely start some time in October, but certainly not in September.

I was in Pattaya last September and it was low season for sure.

I just put my location on TF as Pattaya and immediately got blown up with messages and likes from the Pattaya working girls, to the point where I had to turn my TF profile off as it was too much; so yes, I'd say it's still low season if the ladies are that desperate for customers. I had around a hundred likes and messages in an hour before I turned my profile off.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848467]According to Moogle High Season starts November.[/QUOTE]Yes, but.

In August, its the depths of Low Season, and the ladies feel like its never going to end. In September, customers come trickling back, and the ladies can sense the increase. This totally changes their mood, even if its just one or two more barfines.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2848332]South Asians come to Pattaya during Low Season, because many ladies don't have customers, and these guys are hoping prices will come down.

A typical opening bid might be 1000 baht for ST for 3 guys. Not 1000 x 3, but 1000 baht for 3.

These same guys might pay $200 for a dance with a South Asian lady in India.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately they were in full force last December when I was there. I am going back this December and hoping it won't be a repeat experience from last year.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2848347]You are absolutely correct, I guess I will not spend time anymore and will get in touch with them 1 week before confirmed travel plans. Great to get a perspective from a monger who is actually on the ground, thanks. What do you think on the quality of girls, just check out the pics so I know if I am on the right track.[/QUOTE]A week out is too soon.

Ping the ladies when you are in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2848389]Thanks Mr E, finally a picture. Nah, I am not turned on with her and I understand what works for you may not for me and vice versa. For me there is no difference between 1200 or 2000 bahts. The only thing that matters are the looks / body of the girl and the service provided in room. I don't care what I pay her because on the grand stage I am there to fuck her multiple times and that happens when she is desirable.[/QUOTE]What works for our Fine Friend doesn't work for most of us.

I think we are coming close to de-bunking the Hot girl for 1,000 baht MEME once and for all.

Soi 6 is so much better than Nana Plaza.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848468]Have these South Asians ever hit Jackpot. I see them negotiating but never see them following a Girl. Got to Love the South Asians.[/QUOTE]They don't get 3 for 1000 baht, but often multiple guys will pay 500 a shot. I have seen lots of ladies going with 4 South Asians.

One lady told me she did 8, at 1000 apiece, but she was probably lying, and got 500 per.

It's well known that top tier ladies make big money, but most don't realize how much they spend.

I know a MILF who makes big money from sponsors and customers. But she doesn't have 1000 baht in her bank, despite having an English husband.

She's got a Thai boyfriend up in Isaan, she buys cows for his farm, and is paying off a car she bought for him.

But now she has a live in 20 year karaoke boy, and he is expensive. She has to pay his barfine if she wants to sleep with him.

So, she is so broke that she has to come to my condo for small money.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2848471]I gave that one particular person as an example. I did not say all or only chicks that look like this one.[/QUOTE]This is a lady who often comes to my condo (I got this from her Instagram).

Following walking street agogo closed.

Lighthouse.

Electric Blue Doll house.

Heaven above.

Nice Agogo.

Red Car bar at the entrance of walking street closed.

Hangover bar next to nasha club closed.

In LK metro area.

Live music open air bar next to Areca lodge demolished.

Friends and Champagne closed.

A new Fever gogo opening in LK.

High season fast approaching.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2848331]You see it all the time, a lonely guy drinking alone in a bar, waiting for another guy to stop buying drinks for "his" bargirl.[/QUOTE]Some feminized guys take pleasure in being cuckolded, they like seeing their girl being handled by another guy.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2848331]Or going into a bar to barfine a lady, only to find she isn't there. Of course, the staff will say she has gone out to the pharmacy for a while, so the guy will buy drinks while waiting for her.

Don't be that guy.[/QUOTE]What's the big deal? If she's not there just move to another spot, nobody force you to take a drink or wait for her.

[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2848677]Following walking street agogo closed.

Lighthouse.

Electric Blue Doll house.

Heaven above.

Nice Agogo.

Red Car bar at the entrance of walking street closed.

Hangover bar next to nasha club closed.

In LK metro area.[/QUOTE]Do you know what happen to Pulse? Has it reopened? I was there for a few nights in July and had a great time. Then it closed without warning.

[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2848677]
Heaven above.

Nice Agogo.


In LK metro area.

Live music open air bar next to Areca lodge demolished.

.[/QUOTE]Is it the one at the corner of LK metro? Or the one nearly opposite AL?

Coming from Jakarta, from the airport I used Nam's taxi to Pattaya. It is now $1200 for this trip. Stayed at the Blackwoods hotel see hotel section. Soi 7&8 are slowing coming back to life so that made staying there so much better. Last year not too many bars open, this year more bars are open and yes, many with older talent but gems are to be found. One example, my friend and I were kicking back in the lobby when this hot chick comes out of the elevator and walks across the street to the bar. She gets snatched up by a customer and me and my friend are saying we'll get her tomorrow. After that day, we never saw her again. Just older chicks at that bar. The bars around the hotel are pretty cheap and many had live bands playing. Didn't pull any girls from any gogo's but did take some from the gentlemens club. First was Passions. Kind of out of the way but just used grab to take us there. We got there about 14:00 and the place was pretty full. Good mix of young and old girls. I took a girl to the room, I think her name was Pepe or something like that. The cost was $1500 for the girl and $400 for the room. The room we had was huge and the session was good. Second club was Kinnaree. Again took grab and this place is easier to get to. Like Passion, it was pretty full with many older girls. Seems like most of the guys were regulars. I did like one girl but she was with a customer and didn't free up until just before we left. We actually had lunch here and it was decent. Anyways, the girl frees up and I talk with her. Tell her I would like to gone to the room with her but I had to leave for a suit fitting. I did buy a suit at Ama tailors. I asked her if she would like to come to my room after work. She said yes, exchanged line and off I went. She got off of work around 19:30 and came to my hotel about 20:00. Took her to dinner then back to the hotel. We did our thing and I was thinking I would go meet my friend at the bar he was at. Instead the girl never left the bed, not even to shower after the deed. I then asked is she wanted to stay overnight, which she replied yes. So much for plans. We did do it again in the morning, had breakfast and sent her on her way with $2000 baht. Never negotiated a price and she seemed happy with it, so all was good. One bar I do recommend near the hotel is Shooters bar. If you like friendly girls that are very hands on, you will like this place. I could have spent many hours here but didn't discover it until the last night. Some of the negatives of the bar is they play the music too loud. You basically have to shout to the girl to communicate anything. Second and this isn't the bars fault but there was one asian guy who wanted to be the man for the night. He got on stage with the girls trying to dance with them. After a while he took a wad of cash from his pocket and made it rain. Other than that, this was my favorite bar this trip. Soi 6 was decent but it's weird, one night I saw many 3 or 4 girls that I would do. The next night, I didn't think any made the cut. One night we went to LK metro and last year I had fun at kinks so took my friend there. Not sure if it was because it was to early or what, but this place sucked. We got there around 20:20 and went upstairs and order drinks. There were maybe 6 girls on stage just sitting there naked. Last year they were dancing and interacting with the customers but this time, they just stayed seated and looking bored. Mind you, we were the only customers at the time but still. Anyways my friend didn't like the vibe so we left without coming close to finishing our drinks. Headed for tree town mainly just to see the talent. Very hit and miss there. Even though it was so hot and muggy, we still had a blast and can't wait for our return trip.

My first trip to LOS is coming this December. Basically flying in late on a Friday night for 15 days. Since I'm coming in late at night, I booked myself in a Bangkok hotel for the weekend. I've also booked a hotel for Mon through the following Sunday in Pattaya. That leaves me with 6 more nights. Do I book more time in Pattaya? Go back to Bangkok? Or go someplace like Chiang Mai? Special note is I'm I long time hobbyist but I also like to experience the countries I visit. Any advice?

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2848811]Coming from Jakarta, from the airport I used Nam's taxi to Pattaya. It is now $1200 for this trip. Stayed at the Blackwoods hotel see hotel section. Soi 7&8 are slowing coming back to life so that made staying there so much better. Last year not too many bars open, this year more bars are open and yes, many with older talent but gems are to be found. One example, my friend and I were kicking back in the lobby when this hot chick comes out of the elevator and walks across the street to the bar. She gets snatched up by a customer and me and my friend are saying we'll get her tomorrow. After that day, we never saw her again. Just older chicks at that bar. The bars around the hotel are pretty cheap and many had live bands playing. Didn't pull any girls from any gogo's but did take some from the gentlemens club. First was Passions. Kind of out of the way but just used grab to take us there. We got there about 14:00 and the place was pretty full. Good mix of young and old girls. I took a girl to the room, I think her name was Pepe or something like that. The cost was $1500 for the girl and $400 for the room. The room we had was huge and the session was good. Second club was Kinnaree. Again took grab and this place is easier to get to. Like Passion, it was pretty full with many older girls. Seems like most of the guys were regulars. I did like one girl but she was with a customer and didn't free up until just before we left. We actually had lunch here and it was decent. Anyways, the girl frees up and I talk with her. Tell her I would like to gone to the room with her but I had to leave for a suit fitting. I did buy a suit at Ama tailors. I asked her if she would like to come to my room after work. She said yes, exchanged line and off I went. She got off of work around 19:30 and came to my hotel about 20:00. Took her to dinner then back to the hotel. We did our thing and I was thinking I would go meet my friend at the bar he was at. Instead the girl never left the bed, not even to shower after the deed. I then asked is she wanted to stay overnight, which she replied yes. So much for plans. We did do it again in the morning, had breakfast and sent her on her way with $2000 baht. Never negotiated a price and she seemed happy with it, so all was good. One bar I do recommend near the hotel is Shooters bar. If you like friendly girls that are very hands on, you will like this place. I could have spent many hours here but didn't discover it until the last night. Some of the negatives of the bar is they play the music too loud. You basically have to shout to the girl to communicate anything. Second and this isn't the bars fault but there was one asian guy who wanted to be the man for the night. He got on stage with the girls trying to dance with them. After a while he took a wad of cash from his pocket and made it rain. Other than that, this was my favorite bar this trip. Soi 6 was decent but it's weird, one night I saw many 3 or 4 girls that I would do. The next night, I didn't think any made the cut. One night we went to LK metro and last year I had fun at kinks so took my friend there. Not sure if it was because it was to early or what, but this place sucked. We got there around 20:20 and went upstairs and order drinks. There were maybe 6 girls on stage just sitting there naked. Last year they were dancing and interacting with the customers but this time, they just stayed seated and looking bored. Mind you, we were the only customers at the time but still. Anyways my friend didn't like the vibe so we left without coming close to finishing our drinks. Headed for tree town mainly just to see the talent. Very hit and miss there. Even though it was so hot and muggy, we still had a blast and can't wait for our return trip.[/QUOTE]Just a recommendation to use paragraphs when you post, it's hard to read a glob of writing like this.

[QUOTE=TnJed;2848829]My first trip to LOS is coming this December. Basically flying in late on a Friday night for 15 days. Since I'm coming in late at night, I booked myself in a Bangkok hotel for the weekend. I've also booked a hotel for Mon through the following Sunday in Pattaya. That leaves me with 6 more nights. Do I book more time in Pattaya? Go back to Bangkok? Or go someplace like Chiang Mai? Special note is I'm I long time hobbyist but I also like to experience the countries I visit. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Wait until you have been in Pattaya a few days before making any further plans.

A classic case of a lonely guy:

Last night's lady has a customer who is a long time Pattaya visitor, and he is smitten with her. He calls all the time, sends money, but had to go to Isaan for a few days, giving her time to attend to other customers (like me).

He barfines her Long Time, but in the morning she goes home to her Thai boyfriend.

Don't get fixated on one lady in Pattaya, it will cost you big time.

My only problem with the bargirl last night was, instead of going home when time was up, she begged me to have another lady come over. This lady never worked bar, and had no English. Worse, she was obviously the girlfriend of the bargirl's brother, so she wouldn't play at all. Waste of time, Tequila and money.

Another live streamer has infiltrated Soy 6. Dumbbritabroad last night set up shop,. He does spent a lot of his time Focusing on street views.

He isn't Popular so for you uptighties. No worries.

P.S. I don't want to be filmed either but whatCha going to do.

[QUOTE=TnJed;2848829]My first trip to LOS is coming this December. Basically flying in late on a Friday night for 15 days. Since I'm coming in late at night, I booked myself in a Bangkok hotel for the weekend. I've also booked a hotel for Mon through the following Sunday in Pattaya. That leaves me with 6 more nights. Do I book more time in Pattaya? Go back to Bangkok? Or go someplace like Chiang Mai? Special note is I'm I long time hobbyist but I also like to experience the countries I visit. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Good plan. But just wait and decide when you are in Pattaya what to do. With a couple of days in Bangkok and a week in Pattaya you will know if you want to stay in that part of Thailand are go somewhere else. While your sitting in the bars drinking iced tea you can chat with expats and other customers about what are good options for the rest of your visit.

Met a chick on Thai Friendly last night and went to pick her up. 15 hours later we just went to get a bite to eat and I handed her money. She was like what is this for? Doh!

Nice shot 939. Great and oopmh body, desirable, probably looks like mid 30's. I'll take her even if she has half a decent face. May I ask what do you give her and any chances of seeing her face.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2848638]This is a lady who often comes to my condo (I got this from her Instagram).[/QUOTE]

I am having come over tonight who has a 12,000 baht a month sponsor, but still needs cash because of her craving for young hansum men. Her MO is to go out late with the intent to get a 2000 baht LT customer, get smashed, and then go for free with a young Indian or Arab.

So she runs through the 12,000 pretty quickly.

Unfortunately, she's a low quality fuck, pretty much what you get on Soi 6.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2848849]A classic case of a lonely guy:

Last night's lady has a customer who is a long time Pattaya visitor, and he is smitten with her. He calls all the time, sends money, but had to go to Isaan for a few days, giving her time to attend to other customers (like me).

He barfines her Long Time, but in the morning she goes home to her Thai boyfriend.

Don't get fixated on one lady in Pattaya, it will cost you big time.

My only problem with the bargirl last night was, instead of going home when time was up, she begged me to have another lady come over. This lady never worked bar, and had no English. Worse, she was obviously the girlfriend of the bargirl's brother, so she wouldn't play at all. Waste of time, Tequila and money.[/QUOTE]Observation an Just.

You say a lot of your ladies are a waste of time and money. How is this any different than Guys Simping issarn girls with Money.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848852]Another live streamer has infiltrated Soy 6. Dumbbritabroad last night set up shop,. He does spent a lot of his time Focusing on street views.

He isn't Popular so for you uptighties. No worries.

P.S. I don't want to be filmed either but whatCha going to do.[/QUOTE]Did you get caught up in the livestream?

[QUOTE=CityHunter77;2848979]Did you get caught up in the livestream?[/QUOTE]Some of these guys are better at walking the line than others. Seems like more of the newer ones lately not being so subtle about it. I imagine that eventually all this publicity isn't going to go down well with the authorities. These guys are probably going to start getting arrested for working without permission. You could make the argument that they're taking jobs that Thais could be doing. With so many of these guys around I bet they'll start fighting amongst themselves for their youtube bucks too. Becoming a vlogger seems to have over taken becoming a bar owner in life goals. LOL

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2848856]Good plan. But just wait and decide when you are in Pattaya what to do. With a couple of days in Bangkok and a week in Pattaya you will know if you want to stay in that part of Thailand are go somewhere else. While your sitting in the bars drinking iced tea you can chat with expats and other customers about what are good options for the rest of your visit.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm looking forward to meeting some expats and picking their brains. I'm retiring in 5 yrs and Thailand is high on my list for landing spots.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848852]Another live streamer has infiltrated Soy 6. Dumbbritabroad last night set up shop,. He does spent a lot of his time Focusing on street views.

He isn't Popular so for you uptighties. No worries.

P.S. I don't want to be filmed either but whatCha going to do.[/QUOTE]Heh. After my trip, a few months after I returned, I spent a good amount of time skimming through vloggers and walkabouters on youtube trying to see if I was recorded. I can't say that I really noticed any vloggers during my trip, except one twat who was almost bumping into people on soi 6 while recording.

Funny feeling when you see someone that almost looks like you, but then you realize 'no I never did walk down that street'. One video it happened 2-3 times, but it wasn't me.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848852]Another live streamer has infiltrated Soy 6. Dumbbritabroad last night set up shop,. He does spent a lot of his time Focusing on street views.

He isn't Popular so for you uptighties. No worries.[/QUOTE]His pseudo suits him well, he's been beaten by a 20 year old girl from Korat at his own game.

In Foxy bar, the first girl he brought (dread locks) was interesting (good personality and looks better on video than on their facebook pics), then he asked a young cute one to come over, paid her a drink but she just sat and did nothing (no English, she didn't understand a word). He thought he was going to losen her up with their bullshit racks of 5 tequilas (750 bahts at once). The girl sipped them in a few minutes and didn't change a iota. He was pissed and eventually moved in another bar, he didn't realize she is too inexperienced to be entertaining and in the other hand she can handle easily their shot containing little tequilas.

The soi looked strangely dead for a Friday night to the opposite of many videos I saw these last few weeks.

[QUOTE=TooDirty;2849079]Some of these guys are better at walking the line than others. Seems like more of the newer ones lately not being so subtle about it. I imagine that eventually all this publicity isn't going to go down well with the authorities. These guys are probably going to start getting arrested for working without permission. You could make the argument that they're taking jobs that Thais could be doing. With so many of these guys around I bet they'll start fighting amongst themselves for their youtube bucks too. Becoming a vlogger seems to have over taken becoming a bar owner in life goals. LOL[/QUOTE]They are not that much if you don't consider the walkers pretending to show some touristy places.

I know only the Koreans who do it correctly, and so far they are only two persons. Not surprisingly they are also the ones spending big bucks in the soi.

Most Westerners I saw doing this were not very well received, one even seems like had quit after receiving too much trash from his last stream in the soi a few weeks ago (an American gym rat for guys who might know him).

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2848971]Observation an Just.

You say a lot of your ladies are a waste of time and money. How is this any different than Guys Simping issarn girls with Money.[/QUOTE]I go through a lot of ladies. Once in a while, I try a new lady, and she isn't very good.

The ones who are a waste of time and money aren't invited back. The good ones are invited back.

I don't know why you would think that's the same as some lonely guy sending money to a lady in Isaan.

After spending my initial week in Thailand I made the BtS ride to Ekkamai and boarded a bus for Thailand. Bus ride cost is 131 baht.

The bus was half empty at prime time. It was a quick smooth ride down to Pattaya as the seat next to me was empty. Happy to save 1,000 baht not taking a taxi.

It's always a good feeling when you first arrive in Pattaya, it's just so different than BKK, I love it.

My first day consisted of getting settled in and walking around the old stomping grounds of CF and Buakho.

Price for foot massage in BKK is 300 baht HR. Price for foot massage in Buakho is 100-150 baht HR; man I love Pattaya.

I had a one night hotel stay at a hotel that I stayed at for around two weeks last year. Last year the hotel cost on average 20-25 usd a night, now it's in the $40 range.

The rest of my stay in Pattaya I'm using hotel reward points for a hotel that is normally around 40 usd a night; nice to be able to use that 40 usd saved for ST or massages.

On day 2, I checked in to my new hotel and strolled down Buakho, a slightly chubby, round faced, braces wearing gal summoned me over. Something about her was just cute. Her name was Beam. She said oil massage, 200 baht one hour. I said "have special massage na". She didn't understand and so asked her better English speaking colleague the meaning. Anyways, we settled on a one hour massage with HJ finish for 700 baht. The massage was good and the HJ finish was meh, but nice to bust a load to start the day. Inl forgot to mention, she had humungous, natural jugs with is probably what really allured me, not her round face.

In the evening I wanted an ST session in the friendly confines of my room, not in some dingy, nasty, cum filled ST room above a bar. And I wanted said ST session for 1,000 baht. Sent out messages on Line, "can do ST now, 1,000 baht". Most respondents obliged, with some countering with 1,200 or 1,300 and a few at 1,500. Point being, you can get 1,000 baht off TF. I decided on a chick named Nok. She showed up on time. She had a nice, petite and tight body. Face was above average and sexy. The sex was great. She was reserved initially but got into it, initially not kissing but eventually she was in DFK mode. She forced me to do round 2, she wanted it that bad, even though I'm not a two pop guy, I summoned the strength to grant her another pop. She ended up being over for around 3 hours and stated at least five times that she wants to stay the night with me tomorrow. CaliGuy usually doesn't repeat or do LT, but this one may be a keeper.

It is strange to see guys paying so much for ladies in Pattaya. Take the advice of Mr. Int and Explorer, stop over paying these ladies, YOU set the price, not them. If you haven't noticed, Pattaya is dead with monger tourists, it's dry out there and these ladies are desperate for customers. You don't need to pay more than 1,500 for ST, I'm personally drawing the line at 1,000 for ST. 29 usd for an hour of work is plenty fair.

Random observation, I've noticed barely any soi dogs in bkk and Pattaya compared to before. The govt must have done something as I used to see them everywhere.

Random observation, in both BKk and Pattaya, seems like everytime I come here there is more and more LBs, must be a national and international trend.

Random observation, don't get the comments about their being a lot of tourists, it's pretty dead from what I see.

Random observation, damn the passport bro thing has taken off, seeing a lot more brothas than just last year.

Random observation, Indians really need a tutorial on comportment. At the breakfast buffett these dudes are just yelling and talking loudly with their bros as if it's a club, with all other guests just looking pissed and annoyed.

Life is good outside the cesspool matrix of the west.

-CaliGuy.

Went to a massgae shop on Soi Buakhao yesterday for a 3 hour massage. 550. I ended up fucking the chick. For a 3 hour massage I will usually give 200 tip. There was a special room with a mattress on the floor, night stand, and black light to go to for fucking. The girl said she has to give the shop 200 baht to use the room. But funny she did not want me to say anything to the boss about fucking. Well if you used the room wouldn't it mean you were fucking? Thai logic I guess. Besides paying the shop, I transferred 850 to the girl's bank account. Minus the 200 for the room and the 200 for the massage tip, that came out to 450 to fuck.

Funny I was first trying to get her to fuck for 500 and she was saying 500 would only get me some head. Hell I ended up paying less. She kept trying to get me to pay 2000 total, but 1400 worked just fine.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2849109]They are not that much if you don't consider the walkers pretending to show some touristy places.

I know only the Koreans who do it correctly, and so far they are only two persons. Not surprisingly they are also the ones spending big bucks in the soi.

Most Westerners I saw doing this were not very well received, one even seems like had quit after receiving too much trash from his last stream in the soi a few weeks ago (an American gym rat for guys who might know him).[/QUOTE]Patpong last night. 2 dummy Livestreamers set up in a Bar having a good time. Gay Bar but that's neither there or here.

They were streaming for well over 30 minutes before being told to Leave. I think the issue is they only bought one drink each.

Sam Panday on Kick. John what's going on on Kick.

Watch them they need all the Help they can get.

OK, after a few years of self bagging Pattaya as not being for me, and hence staying away.

Circumstances have me there in a few days for a 4 D3 N long weekend, so I may as well play around.

I have done Soi 6 before so with that and knowledge here I understand there pretty well.

I also know the gogo scene well enough from pre covid, and from Bangkok visits, so time spent there will be fleeting.

Soi LK / Metro and the massage scene are also well understood.

So that leaves freelancers / ThaiFriendly, any sideline stuff like FiwiFans in Pattaya and Gentlemen's Clubs.

I know there are many GC's.

SO PLEASE, give me the pick of the bunch.

Mostly I'm after playful, not pretties at inflated prices.

But I definitely have an age range, 18 to under 40 (by at least looks of face and body, if not years).

Once I saw mention of a genuine mother and daughter both working in a GC, and I'd be interested in that (a tick on the bucket list).

Any info on sideline action that is quality and cheap would also be appreciated.

Feel free to post here or message me.

Happy to return the favor on Phuket action if interested.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2849190]Went to a massgae shop on Soi Buakhao yesterday for a 3 hour massage. 550. I ended up fucking the chick. For a 3 hour massage I will usually give 200 tip. There was a special room with a mattress on the floor, night stand, and black light to go to for fucking. The girl said she has to give the shop 200 baht to use the room. But funny she did not want me to say anything to the boss about fucking. Well if you used the room wouldn't it mean you were fucking? Thai logic I guess. Besides paying the shop, I transferred 850 to the girl's bank account. Minus the 200 for the room and the 200 for the massage tip, that came out to 450 to fuck.

Funny I was first trying to get her to fuck for 500 and she was saying 500 would only get me some head. Hell I ended up paying less. She kept trying to get me to pay 2000 total, but 1400 worked just fine.[/QUOTE]Photo is a must. Pick a similar quality one if you must.

Right off the Bat I'm thinking older wider Bangkok Chinatown girl. Hahahaha.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/@redlighttravel7472/videos[/URL]

Just came across this video in my recommendations. Something every newbie should watch. It's all been posted on here before but a good video for the newbies. Whether we feel it's accurate or not will depend on situations we have experienced. I wanted to add a little extra to one of his points. When you are looking over your bill after every drink order make sure the girls and waitress SEE you checking the bills. If they know you're aware of the possible scams they will not pull one on you.

No idea how this guy has over 13,000 subscribers when his first video was posted under an hour ago.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2849167]After spending my initial week in Thailand I made the BtS ride to Ekkamai and boarded a bus for Thailand. Bus ride cost is 131 baht.

The bus was half empty at prime time. It was a quick smooth ride down to Pattaya as the seat next to me was empty. Happy to save 1,000 baht not taking a taxi.

It's always a good feeling when you first arrive in Pattaya, it's just so different than BKK, I love it.

My first day consisted of getting settled in and walking around the old stomping grounds of CF and Buakho.

Price for foot massage in BKK is 300 baht HR. Price for foot massage in Buakho is 100-150 baht HR; man I love Pattaya.

I had a one night hotel stay at a hotel that I stayed at for around two weeks last year. Last year the hotel cost on average 20-25 usd a night, now it's in the $40 range..[/QUOTE]Red Planet is $15.75 a night this week. Not a Random Observation.

I want to stay at Mood Hotel for a week but just can't do it, their price is either 30 $ or 40 $ a night. Hell yes Price matters.

Not to be negative Nancy.

Last high season was non existent. My prediction this year's high season will be worse than that.

Just as an example. Las Vegas is setting tourists records every month while Thailand has fallen and can't get up.

Yes I do consider comparing Vegas and thightland apples to apples comparison.

Revenge Travel is real.

[QUOTE=TnJed;2848829]My first trip to LOS is coming this December. Basically flying in late on a Friday night for 15 days. Since I'm coming in late at night, I booked myself in a Bangkok hotel for the weekend. I've also booked a hotel for Mon through the following Sunday in Pattaya. That leaves me with 6 more nights. Do I book more time in Pattaya? Go back to Bangkok? Or go someplace like Chiang Mai? Special note is I'm I long time hobbyist but I also like to experience the countries I visit. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Would you even consider going to Chiang Mai? The area North maybe but the city itself has no redeeming features. Unless you like being surrounded by Chinese tour buses and unwashed backpackers with elephants on their trousers.

Head to Samui, Koh Phangnan, Koh Chang ect. Anywhere except Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2849412]Red Planet is $15.75 a night this week. Not a Random Observation.

I want to stay at Mood Hotel for a week but just can't do it, their price is either 30 $ or 40 $ a night. Hell yes Price matters.

Not to be negative Nancy.

Last high season was non existent. My prediction this year's high season will be worse than that.

Just as an example. Las Vegas is setting tourists records every month while Thailand has fallen and can't get up.

Yes I do consider comparing Vegas and thightland apples to apples comparison.

Revenge Travel is real.[/QUOTE]I agree, I think this coming High Season is going to be shit, Thai tourism is in for a rude awakening, specifically Pattaya and monger tourists. The global recession will hit eventually and travel numbers will come down, even in the US. Saw a statistic that 40 percent of US adults have less than $1,000 saved up LOL.

I've stayed at two Red Planets in Bangkok, they're good value. But in Pattaya you can pay like $10 more and get much nicer accomodation, albeit not so central like the Red Planet Pattaya.

The hotel prices are odd. I guess it's the Thai logic thing, not enough tourists so increase prices to make up the difference. Once my stay with points ends, I'll likely head to a cheaper city in Thailand for nicer and cheaper accomodation, especially if I find a lady worth taking with me.

Any chance you can post her pic from her TF account. I agree standard price is what the monger pays for the ST / LT and not what the girl asks. In the latter she will ask for the moon, the job of the monger is to show her the reality of earth. She insisted on another session of LT the next day, to my mind either you treated her very well or there are'nt enough mongers in the city.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2849167]In the evening I wanted an ST session in the friendly confines of my room, not in some dingy, nasty, cum filled ST room above a bar. And I wanted said ST session for 1,000 baht. Sent out messages on Line, "can do ST now, 1,000 baht". Most respondents obliged, with some countering with 1,200 or 1,300 and a few at 1,500. Point being, you can get 1,000 baht off TF. I decided on a chick named Nok. She showed up on time. She had a nice, petite and tight body. Face was above average and sexy. The sex was great. She was reserved initially but got into it, initially not kissing but eventually she was in DFK mode. She forced me to do round 2, she wanted it that bad, even though I'm not a two pop guy, I summoned the strength to grant her another pop. She ended up being over for around 3 hours and stated at least five times that she wants to stay the night with me tomorrow. CaliGuy usually doesn't repeat or do LT, but this one may be a keeper.

-CaliGuy.[/QUOTE]

He says in comments that all his old videos were deleted by youtube.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2849277][URL]https://www.youtube.com/@redlighttravel7472/videos[/URL]


No idea how this guy has over 13,000 subscribers when his first video was posted under an hour ago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2849477]Any chance you can post her pic from her TF account. I agree standard price is what the monger pays for the ST / LT and not what the girl asks. In the latter she will ask for the moon, the job of the monger is to show her the reality of earth. She insisted on another session of LT the next day, to my mind either you treated her very well or there are'nt enough mongers in the city.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SuperLove;2841199]Bro, I don't haggle. If I like her I'll take her if not I'll move on. I am well served in the room with no hidden charges, mighty important. Sorry if I bruised your mongering budget. Raise your quality standards and bring your A game! Have a good weekend.[/QUOTE]If I get it right, when you're at home, you consider the guy is right to stand his ground and not overpay by giving the girl what she is asking, but when it's your turn to be on the ground, suddenly you think it's better to not haggle over a few thousand bahts and prefer giving her whatever she asks even when it's twice or three times the standard price. And then you pretend you're not in the same bracket than guys who stay firm with their rewards.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2840987]Lots of girls on offer, quality is subjective and what you like I may not and vice versa. But I strongly believe if you have money in the pocket Pattaya has plenty to offer. I came across one beauty an absolute stunner like a 9/10. She asked for 10 k with no mention of ST / LT, I was down a few shots already for the day, like in the room and in the bar. Really wanted her for the next day but my bad she was taken by a Korean. Absolutely gutted with that![/QUOTE]Same goes for you constantly asking others to share a pic of their girl (often resulting in a comment suggesting she is a low quality girl) but when it's your turn to be on the ground, suddenly quality becomes subjective and obviously no pic to accompany the report.

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One downside of going to a Thai bar:

Last month I went to a Thai bar and drank with a bargirl. Which is pretty much all you can do in a Thai bar (the ladies call these "bar host", meaning drinks only. This includes karaoke boy bars, where the ladies buy drinks).

So, no fooling around, no barfines.

Last night, the lady told me her Thai boyfriend was there, sitting at another table, watching us.

You don't want to play with a lady in front of her Thai boyfriend.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2849477]Any chance you can post her pic from her TF account. I agree standard price is what the monger pays for the ST / LT and not what the girl asks. In the latter she will ask for the moon, the job of the monger is to show her the reality of earth. She insisted on another session of LT the next day, to my mind either you treated her very well or there are'nt enough mongers in the city.[/QUOTE]Don't know what purpose it would serve to post her pic on here. Haven't seen her since that night, but planning to go to the movies with her today. I'm kind of mongered out. Need a few days of just activities outside the bedroom.

I think the weekends a lot of Thais from bkk come down to party and travel. Monday got noticeably quieter in Pattaya. The hotel staff confirmed that weekdays tend to be less busy. My hotel went from being buzzing on the weekend to being pretty dead during the week thus far.

Haven't hit up beach road freelancers, GCs or any bars; it's been all TF and massage shops for me thus far. I took a stroll down soi 6 yesterday for the first time, crap ton of ladies but little mongers. I'the say ten percent of the ladies were worth a bar fine with maybe only five total being really attractive. Room prices are 400 and lady prices ranged from 1,000 to 1,500; so you are looking at anywhere from 1,400 to 1,900 total to take a lady upstairs. Just not good value given the lack of quality. Would rather just see ladies off TF in my room for 1,000. But the 6 is still fun to walk down, where else is a man ever going to get that kind of attention from women? And it's fun spitting some goofy game at the ladies from the curb and plenty grab your junk whilst passing by.

Strolling through Central Festival saw an absolutely gorgeous girl working the front of a retail shop. My jaw dropped at her beauty, one of those girls where you can't tell where she's from, just that exotic look. I spoke with her about random shit for a minute or two and then shot my shot asking for her number. She gently rejected my shot. I wasn't suprised, she's a bkk girl and could probably get any man she wants, why select this loser monger.

Life is good in LOS and outside the west.

P99, I concur, I should be more restrictive. Thanks for the alert brother.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2849588]If I get it right, when you're at home, you consider the guy is right to stand his ground and not overpay by giving the girl what she is asking, but when it's your turn to be on the ground, suddenly you think it's better to not haggle over a few thousand bahts and prefer giving her whatever she asks even when it's twice or three times the standard price. And then you pretend you're not in the same bracket than guys who stay firm with their rewards.

Same goes for you constantly asking others to share a pic of their girl (often resulting in a comment suggesting she is a low quality girl) but when it's your turn to be on the ground, suddenly quality becomes subjective and obviously no pic to accompany the report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2849724] meaning drinks only.....So, no fooling around, no barfines.....Last night, the lady told me her Thai boyfriend was there, sitting at another table, watching us. You don't want to play with a lady in front of her Thai boyfriend.[/QUOTE]No barfines in the bar correct but if you have some charm and a bit, not much, of perseverance they will go out with you and not necessarily for money but because you're a guy they like. Vietnam bars work the same way especially in Little Japan. I'm there a long time so I have time to play the long game. I'd rather have the hot chick I put a bit of work into than an ugly Soi 25 girl who I can bang for 1000 baht or less.

Yes, their freaking Thai BF's are in the bar too. So weird. Not hard to figure out which ones they are. Just go for DFK and if you get a major head turn move on to next girl. Thai BF does not even mean a real BF it could mean a Thai guy who spends a lot on her may be on their way too. Had lots of Thai bar girls bolt on me once one of their regulars show up. Can't blame them I buy them 1-3 drinks per hour these guys are buying bottles and tons of chips for them. I'm like that with gogo girls too. I tell them if they want a drink go to the guy they were sitting with before they saw me.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2849866]No barfines in the bar correct but if you have some charm and a bit, not much, of perseverance they will go out with you and not necessarily for money but because you're a guy they like. Vietnam bars work the same way especially in Little Japan. I'm there a long time so I have time to play the long game. I'd rather have the hot chick I put a bit of work into than an ugly Soi 25 girl who I can bang for 1000 baht or less.

Yes, their freaking Thai BF's are in the bar too. So weird. Not hard to figure out which ones they are. Just go for DFK and if you get a major head turn move on to next girl. Thai BF does not even mean a real BF it could mean a Thai guy who spends a lot on her may be on their way too. Had lots of Thai bar girls bolt on me once one of their regulars show up. Can't blame them I buy them 1-3 drinks per hour these guys are buying bottles and tons of chips for them. I'm like that with gogo girls too. I tell them if they want a drink go to the guy they were sitting with before they saw me.[/QUOTE]I am talking about a Thai bar.

Which means little or no hanky panky in the bar, even if the Thai boyfriend is not around. The Thai BF will know the owner, the servers, or the ladies, and everything is noted.

So, no DFK in the Thai bar.

Your option is to arrange offsite romance the next day.

I'm not a big fan of happy endings in massage shops, so I made a date wiyh an older massage lady to come to my condo.

She showed up after work, drank very little, and, unfortunately mostly talked about money. Apparently she is deeply in debt. She is 2000 baht richer today.

She claimed to be 50, but had the body of a 30 year old, and a great work ethic. She spent the night, and was ready for seconds in the morning.

I would much rather spend 2000 baht for an allnighter than 500+ baht for a HJ.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2849980]I am talking about a Thai bar.[/QUOTE]And so am I. Which Thai bar are you talking about where there is no mutual groping with the girl even without her Thai BF there? When you never name bars it's difficult to know if it's a bar I ever visited. Maybe the one(s) you visited really don't allow contact and I've never been to them.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2850054]And so am I. Which Thai bar are you talking about where there is no mutual groping with the girl even without her Thai BF there? When you never name bars it's difficult to know if it's a bar I ever visited. Maybe the one(s) you visited really don't allow contact and I've never been to them.[/QUOTE]Ask and ye shall receive. Attached is the location on Google Maps and a screen shot of the Facebook page.

I have been to a few Thai bars, never seen any hanky panky.

Since you seem to. Know about this can you name a Thai bar that has onsite short time rooms?

I had a bargirl over for drinks today.

I barfined her a year ago, and she was close to useless. Although she managed a standard ST service at the end, she was obviously nervous. She had a karaoke boy as a boyfriend and was messaging every five minutes to make sure he was fucking some other lady.

This time around, she was relaxed. She drank a boatload of tequila, got naked, and was great fun.

Going with a lady Fresh Off the Boat indeed has some downsides. Better to go with a lady with some experience.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2849412]Red Planet is $15.75 a night this week. Not a Random Observation.

I want to stay at Mood Hotel for a week but just can't do it, their price is either 30 $ or 40 $ a night. Hell yes Price matters.

Not to be negative Nancy.

Last high season was non existent. My prediction this year's high season will be worse than that.

Just as an example. Las Vegas is setting tourists records every month while Thailand has fallen and can't get up.

Yes I do consider comparing Vegas and thightland apples to apples comparison.

Revenge Travel is real.[/QUOTE]I don't understand what your are saying. I was in Pattaya for high season last year and it was crammed. I've never seen a busier high season.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2850102]Ask and ye shall receive. Attached is the location on Google Maps and a screen shot of the Facebook page.

I have been to a few Thai bars, never seen any hanky panky.

Since you seem to. Know about this can you name a Thai bar that has onsite short time rooms?[/QUOTE]Nope I've never even been to Soi Noen Plub Wan. Never saw a reason to go there. Bars look dumpy. Area looks dumpy.

As for Thung Klom-Tan Man 9, what is this place? An open air restaurant? There are PR girls here? If I went here I'd never find my way back home!

What does having an onsite room have to do with being able to take a girl home from a bar or DFK her in a bar? No onsite rooms at 98.325% of the gogo bars I've visited. Does that mean nothing goes on in the bar or you can't meet a girl from there on her day off? But to answer your question no I don't know any Thai bars with onsite rooms. Not saying there aren't any I just never ask.

[QUOTE=Grego62;2850107]I don't understand what your are saying. I was in Pattaya for high season last year and it was crammed. I've never seen a busier high season.[/QUOTE]I can't actually Recall. I do know Bangkok was dead as can be this past high season.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2850162]Nope I've never even been to Soi Noen Plub Wan. Never saw a reason to go there. Bars look dumpy. Area looks dumpy.

As for Thung Klom-Tan Man 9, what is this place? An open air restaurant? There are PR girls here? If I went here I'd never find my way back home!

What does having an onsite room have to do with being able to take a girl home from a bar or DFK her in a bar? No onsite rooms at 98.325% of the gogo bars I've visited. Does that mean nothing goes on in the bar or you can't meet a girl from there on her day off? But to answer your question no I don't know any Thai bars with onsite rooms. Not saying there aren't any I just never ask.[/QUOTE]There is saying that Thailand begins east of Third Road. At least, that's where there are lots of Thai bars.

Now it's your turn to provide info on a Thai bar that has hanky panky and barfines.

I never understand why you think a bargirl "drinking a boatload of tequila" is fun. I would much rather have a nervous fresh girl over a slobbering drunk experienced girl. But to each their own I guess.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2850104]I had a bargirl over for drinks today.

I barfined her a year ago, and she was close to useless. Although she managed a standard ST service at the end, she was obviously nervous. She had a karaoke boy as a boyfriend and was messaging every five minutes to make sure he was fucking some other lady.

This time around, she was relaxed. She drank a boatload of tequila, got naked, and was great fun.

Going with a lady Fresh Off the Boat indeed has some downsides. Better to go with a lady with some experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2849412]

Not to be negative Nancy.

Last high season was non existent. My prediction this year's high season will be worse than that.

Just as an example. Las Vegas is setting tourists records every month while Thailand has fallen and can't get up.

Yes I do consider comparing Vegas and thightland apples to apples comparison.

Revenge Travel is real.[/QUOTE]Last High Season, things were so busy that I couldn't get a Bolt taxi. Bargirls were inundated with customers. Good luck finding a seat in popular gogos, too many customers.

It was so busy in January, I went on a tfip to Brazil to get away from the crowds.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2850244]I never understand why you think a bargirl "drinking a boatload of tequila" is fun. I would much rather have a nervous fresh girl over a slobbering drunk experienced girl. But to each their own I guess.[/QUOTE]Bargirls can drink a lot, so she was far from a slobbering drunk.

After a couple of hours of drinking, they are just getting loosened up.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2850162]Nope I've never even been to Soi Noen Plub Wan. Never saw a reason to go there. Bars look dumpy. Area looks dumpy.

As for Thung Klom-Tan Man 9, what is this place? An open air restaurant? There are PR girls here? If I went here I'd never find my way back home!

What does having an onsite room have to do with being able to take a girl home from a bar or DFK her in a bar? No onsite rooms at 98.325% of the gogo bars I've visited. Does that mean nothing goes on in the bar or you can't meet a girl from there on her day off? But to answer your question no I don't know any Thai bars with onsite rooms. Not saying there aren't any I just never ask.[/QUOTE]There is another kind of Thai bar, where bargirls go to hook up with Thai men. Since the ladies aren't working, they are there to secure a boyfriend.

This one is on Third Road, but there are dozens scattered around Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2850244]I never understand why you think a bargirl "drinking a boatload of tequila" is fun. I would much rather have a nervous fresh girl over a slobbering drunk experienced girl. But to each their own I guess.[/QUOTE]To Horatio and Explorer. You are both correct. However, the winner goes to the one with the best and biggest tits!

[QUOTE=Horatio;2850244]I never understand why you think a bargirl "drinking a boatload of tequila" is fun. I would much rather have a nervous fresh girl over a slobbering drunk experienced girl. But to each their own I guess.[/QUOTE]What I want to know is where is he picking up all of these drunks? I have bottles of liquor that have literally been here over 10 years. That is only because the cleaning lady once threw some of the even older ones out. 9 point9 times out of 10 when a chick comes over here all she wants to drink is water.

Only girls out at 1. 40 am in my experience are the ones that are either too ugly to have been taken or just returned from a premature punter! Better to wait for the next evening shift.

I didn't post above. But I approve the ConTeNt.

This is a Problem. Only plus is you can get them for 1 k.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2850244]I never understand why you think a bargirl "drinking a boatload of tequila" is fun. I would much rather have a nervous fresh girl over a slobbering drunk experienced girl. But to each their own I guess.[/QUOTE]I worry about the BFs more than an uninterested BARGIRL, Guys and girls on Drugs do unorthodoxx things.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2850162]Nope I've never even been to Soi Noen Plub Wan. Never saw a reason to go there. Bars look dumpy. Area looks dumpy.

As for Thung Klom-Tan Man 9, what is this place? An open air restaurant? There are PR girls here? If I went here I'd never find my way back home!

What does having an onsite room have to do with being able to take a girl home from a bar or DFK her in a bar? No onsite rooms at 98.325% of the gogo bars I've visited. Does that mean nothing goes on in the bar or you can't meet a girl from there on her day off? But to answer your question no I don't know any Thai bars with onsite rooms. Not saying there aren't any I just never ask.[/QUOTE]I've been out on the dark side for 20 years, I know the Soi of Nern plud wan like the back of my hand. Out here main roads would include Soi Siam, Nern pludwan, Soi Khao Noi, and Soi Khao Talo. The reference of the Soi by E is spelled incorrectly I believe might be Soi Tungkom Talang in correct is South of Sukhumit left side into Soi 89, This road in length is about 6 KM, There are places that open daily and close daily.

Not blowing my horn but I used to cycle daily out here and once did a review and map for a guy on the PA site with bars on the dark side I would update him yearly. But since Covid with places closing by the hour, what was the point of an update? Many of the best places are located on the top portion of Soi Khao Talo, these places are pretty much like places on Soi Boomerang. When reference to Thai owned majority of them are owned by former bar girls. Some of the outdoor bars enclosed are farang back with a front of a Thai lady. In all my years, I've not been confronted by any Thai man at any of these places or had to watch one sit nearby.

There was a time when Nernpludwan had a number of bars today barely a handful, one in mind is Red Bar still open. Many farangs out here get big heads and want to own a bar easy to do, but realize after a few months the money isn't so small when they start to kick out 50,000 plus a month and bring in zero. When they open it is packed party it up then when the friends leave driving by one can predict the end. A few still operate and you never see anyone inside, they are laundering money or in a backroom gambling house. There are two such places on Nernpludwan, I met one years ago a farang who purchased it for his ex-wife said to give her some business got some nice-looking girls inside Even with my low standards I nearly threw up there were a few young kids outside playing with their phones I ask the wife what's up with that, protection because she running a gambling house upstairs. I told the Farang to tell your wife to decide if the club is for fucking or gambling get the punks out if it is fucking.

Today, just off Nernpludwan there is still one place worth visiting and that is Aqua Demi, has a pool and ST rooms in the back a really nice setup 15 years ago it was packed, especially on Sundays. Girls used to dance naked and swim in the nude. There are a number of places on Soi Khao Talo, past the Gym and Siam Puri food store. One lady owner has been there for years she passes drugs out of her place. Otherwise, there aren't really any notable places There are a number of outdoor bars on surrounding Soi not worth mentioning open today and closing tomorrow.

Out of Siam near the Taco House Soi 27? There are two GCs named Rt. 66 and Darkside that look interesting but never any sitting outside but at times loads of bikes.

One place I've wanted to try for a long time on Nernpludwan a Thai Karaoke club from 9 pm on have from a distant best looking girls in the area. I don't venture on the Darkside too close to home never know if I might run into a neighbor. Out to the Lake don't bother but if you stay a long time can ride a big it is worth looking into in the old days I found some of the best GF experiences out here but if you are looking young don't bother.

How many of the Khao Talo bars are still open? Booze was the best one by a mile imo. Problem with Booze is that the guys who live in the area go every single day so the girls are just with them or waiting for them.

Are there nice looking girls at these Thai bars (not farang owned bars) Explorer is talking about on Soi Noen Plub Wan? Are they like girls from Palace and Pin Up (where I find my girls) or more like girls from Soi 25 (where Explorer finds his girls)?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2850291]Many of the best places are located on the top portion of Soi Khao Talo, these places are pretty much like places on Soi Boomerang. When reference to Thai owned majority of them are owned by former bar girls.[/QUOTE]Yep. And usually I am meeting one of those chicks on Thai Friendly and going to pick her up there after work for 1000 baht all night. That is exactly who the owners that I have been introduced to are.

[QUOTE=Grego62;2850107]I don't understand what your are saying. I was in Pattaya for high season last year and it was crammed. I've never seen a busier high season.[/QUOTE]I agree. I had my first ever trip to Thailand last January-February and I really expected it to be slow and barren after reading a lot of the doom and gloom (the global economy slowing down is hurting tourism!) reports here. Maybe it wasn't as busy as previous high seasons, but Bangkok and Pattaya were absolutely PACKED. I would take reports stating that Thailand is going to be hurting and slow with a grain of salt. People have been saying that for a long time on here it seems, but Walking Street was still packed, bars were packed, malls were packed, etc.

I'the love for things to slow down as I hate crowds, but let's be honest with our reports, fellas. The crowds of Chinese and Koreans are still very much flooding the streets of Bangkok and Pattaya, particularly for high season. I bet you could even watch YouTube videos / streams that will confirm this. I am going again this December and I'll report back.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2850300]How many of the Khao Talo bars are still open? Booze was the best one by a mile imo. Problem with Booze is that the guys who live in the area go every single day so the girls are just with them or waiting for them.

Are there nice looking girls at these Thai bars (not farang owned bars) Explorer is talking about on Soi Noen Plub Wan? Are they like girls from Palace and Pin Up (where I find my girls) or more like girls from Soi 25 (where Explorer finds his girls)?[/QUOTE]There are tons of Farang bars in the Darkside. A few have high quality ladies. The Darkside bar on the main drag of Khao Talo, has some hotties.

Among the Thai bars, you will find loads of housewife types, instead of a day job, they work bar at night ("only drink" Not so hot. And low earnings, because of the no hanky panky thing.

Rarely, some young Thai guy will show up as a customer, a bargirl falls for him, sometimes with tragic consequences.

Bottom line: mongers can skip Thai bars, and Darkside Farang bars, and stick to Pattaya.

[QUOTE=BPalacio;2850334]I agree. I had my first ever trip to Thailand last January-February and I really expected it to be slow and barren after reading a lot of the doom and gloom (the global economy slowing down is hurting tourism!) reports here. Maybe it wasn't as busy as previous high seasons, but Bangkok and Pattaya were absolutely PACKED. I would take reports stating that Thailand is going to be hurting and slow with a grain of salt. People have been saying that for a long time on here it seems, but Walking Street was still packed, bars were packed, malls were packed, etc.

I'the love for things to slow down as I hate crowds, but let's be honest with our reports, fellas. The crowds of Chinese and Koreans are still very much flooding the streets of Bangkok and Pattaya, particularly for high season. I bet you could even watch YouTube videos / streams that will confirm this. I am going again this December and I'll report back.[/QUOTE]My guess for why last high season was packed and high tourists numbers was the pent up demand from people not being able to travel due to Covid. We're well over a year now since the world reopened so to speak and travel across the globe has seen record numbers. But I think that post Covid demand starts to fizzle soon and places like Thailand won't see as busy high seasons for a while.

Global recession incoming, people's savings from Covid and government stimulus checks are about exhausted. Saw a stat that almost half Americans only have $1,000 or less in savings. I think that is likely indicative of the rest of the world.

Pattaya currently is pretty dead, especially compared to this time last year. I took a walk down Soi Pothole the other night and no customer in sight but a crap ton of ladies working and hollering for handsome man to buy drink. Honestly the ladyboys were better looking than the ladies on Soi Pothole.

I get multiple massages a day and all the ladies complain about a lack of customers and how slow it is.

Generally speaking, not a ton of lookers in Pattaya, but a ton of average looking ladies. It's fairly dry out there but I'm still having a good time.

Still amazes me on how many ladies insist on 1,500-2,500 for ST with so little customers. They're in for a rude awakening once the global economy really starts to melt, they'll be begging for 800 baht ST soon enough. Just my humble prediction.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2850300]How many of the Khao Talo bars are still open? Booze was the best one by a mile imo. Problem with Booze is that the guys who live in the area go every single day so the girls are just with them or waiting for them.

Are there nice looking girls at these Thai bars (not farang owned bars) Explorer is talking about on Soi Noen Plub Wan? Are they like girls from Palace and Pin Up (where I find my girls) or more like girls from Soi 25 (where Explorer finds his girls)?[/QUOTE]On the lower part of the Khao Talo there are a bunch of new open bars very small. As for Booze I've been there a few times precovid only because of friends not impress ever. They try expanding once they had a place on Soi Buakhao, another different name on Soi Landoffice up from Tiggybits restaurant all gone before Covid.

Actually, there are more bars open today top portion of Khao Talo than in pre-COVID. There is another road leading up South from Nernpludwan that has a number of small bars nothing special. As for Ex remarks and picture I'm not familiar with this building it doesn't look like property on Nernpludwan. Based on the map it is Spelled wrong but it looks like a Soi called Tungkom Tulang which is south of Khao Talo. On the Darkside, Thai ladies with farang backing usually are funded by farangs I hear this a lot " small money " This is all they know after the grand opening friends are gone six months down the road door shuts. Those that stay open like Monkey Bar, Pussy Cat are doing things they shouldn't. Although it is small money to Thais it adds up when you start to kick out each month and bring in zero even the farang who thinks they are rich due to the exchange rate get a reality check these are basically grey businesses of what the Triads are being accused of but on a much larger scale.

In the years I was running around updating the places on the darkside for a guy in town I did this for a reason didn't get paid but allowed me to stop at each place to take a pee maybe I just might find a gem. In all that time I can only remember once a Thai guy confronted me and it wasn't a BF, The majority of these places have to pay to operate once a month a car pulls up, and payment is made usually to the district cops so having your own protection a Thai guy isn't good business or appearance out here.

As for looks, I would compare it to personnel on Soi Pothole, you aren't going to find Go-Go types out here. In the past, I've been more attracted to female Thai managers, owners, and even cashiers.

Further out to the Lake even rare about a dozen are ventured by local expats. Yes if you visit at bad timing you can easily get cock block but a regular that buys drinks all night long. The ones on Khao Talo top portion have ST rooms on site. The place I used to enjoy is Aqua Deyme down off Nernpludwan I've had a few really good rolls in the hay there they have a pool, pool table, and rooms in the back very nice setup. Right now two popular places out on Soi Siam Country around 5 KM off Sukhumvit, Soi 27? Next to the Taco House, a place called Darkside Bar, across the road Rt. 66 I see lots of traffic in and out while I chuckle down tacos.

If backrooms bother you and you have your own transportation you can head back up to Sukhumvit Soi just before between Nernpludwan and Siam is a ST resort call what else " Love Inn " one of the best clean, 280 for 3 hours 580 VIP for the night.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2850384]On the lower part of the Khao Talo there are a bunch of new open bars very small. As for Booze I've been there a few times precovid only because of friends not impress ever. They try expanding once they had a place on Soi Buakhao, another different name on Soi Landoffice up from Tiggybits restaurant all gone before Covid.

Actually, there are more bars open today top portion of Khao Talo than in pre-COVID. There is another road leading up South from Nernpludwan that has a number of small bars nothing special. As for Ex remarks and picture I'm not familiar with this building it doesn't look like property on Nernpludwan. Based on the map it is Spelled wrong but it looks like a Soi called Tungkom Tulang which is south of Khao Talo. On the Darkside, Thai ladies with farang backing usually are funded by farangs I hear this a lot " small money " This is all they know after the grand opening friends are gone six months down the road door shuts. Those that stay open like Monkey Bar, Pussy Cat are doing things they shouldn't. Although it is small money to Thais it adds up when you start to kick out each month and bring in zero even the farang who thinks they are rich due to the exchange rate get a reality check these are basically grey businesses of what the Triads are being accused of but on a much larger scale..[/QUOTE]Per Google Maps, the address of the bar is:

91/15 Pattaya City, Bang Lamung District, Chon Buri 20150.

Again, I am not recommending anyone go there, as its a traditional Thai bar. There are Farang bars in the Darkside, where fun can be had. One example is the Darkside Bar on Khao Talo road, just before it turns into Khao Talo 9. Lots of doable ladies, but I rarely get out there.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2850371]My guess for why last high season was packed and high tourists numbers was the pent up demand from people not being able to travel due to Covid. We're well over a year now since the world reopened so to speak and travel across the globe has seen record numbers. But I think that post Covid demand starts to fizzle soon and places like Thailand won't see as busy high seasons for a while.

Global recession incoming, people's savings from Covid and government stimulus checks are about exhausted. Saw a stat that almost half Americans only have $1,000 or less in savings. I think that is likely indicative of the rest of the world.

Pattaya currently is pretty dead, especially compared to this time last year. I took a walk down Soi Pothole the other night and no customer in sight but a crap ton of ladies working and hollering for handsome man to buy drink. Honestly the ladyboys were better looking than the ladies on Soi Pothole.

I get multiple massages a day and all the ladies complain about a lack of customers and how slow it is.

Generally speaking, not a ton of lookers in Pattaya, but a ton of average looking ladies. It's fairly dry out there but I'm still having a good time..[/QUOTE]It's typical that, in the depths of Low Season, many people feel its never going to end. Then High Season comes, Pattaya is jammed, and then people are surprised when May 1 comes and Pattaya is dead again.

Because there were so many customers last year, some will come back, and new customers will come, so any lady that maintains social contacts with last year's customers will do very well this High Season.

Of course, the smart guys come for Low Season.

Not sex related but some in Pattaya like me actually liked this place. Huge fire at Pattaya Floating market a couple of hours ago. What a shame. One of the nicest areas of Pattaya to walk around even though I had to pay a Farang surcharge. The market was never the same since COVID.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2850351]There are tons of Farang bars in the Darkside. A few have high quality ladies. The Darkside bar on the main drag of Khao Talo, has some hotties.[/QUOTE]Cool thanks. I'll check this bar out. Haven't been to the Dark Side since pre-COVID. Due for a visit, good or bad.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2850384]Right now two popular places out on Soi Siam Country around 5 KM off Sukhumvit, Soi 27? Next to the Taco House, a place called Darkside Bar, across the road Rt. 66 I see lots of traffic in and out.[/QUOTE]

Thanks LBM. Will check out Route 66 as well.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2850395]Of course, the smart guys come for Low Season.[/QUOTE]

I've always said go in Low Season. Skip from December to after Songkran. Girl:Guy ratio drops so much. May to November are good albeit hotter and a lot more rain. Go from June to mid-September and have all the girls to yourself.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2850300]How many of the Khao Talo bars are still open? Booze was the best one by a mile imo. Problem with Booze is that the guys who live in the area go every single day so the girls are just with them or waiting for them.

Are there nice looking girls at these Thai bars (not farang owned bars) Explorer is talking about on Soi Noen Plub Wan? Are they like girls from Palace and Pin Up (where I find my girls) or more like girls from Soi 25 (where Explorer finds his girls)?[/QUOTE]Explorer is taking a Beating. No offense Bro.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2850395]It's typical that, in the depths of Low Season, many people feel its never going to end. Then High Season comes, Pattaya is jammed, and then people are surprised when May 1 comes and Pattaya is dead again.

Because there were so many customers last year, some will come back, and new customers will come, so any lady that maintains social contacts with last year's customers will do very well this High Season.

Of course, the smart guys come for Low Season.[/QUOTE]Correct answer is go when you want. Soi 6 looks the same every day of the year and especially on Sunday's.

Not a knock on anyone. No offense.

There must be 65% who are into Bargirls who don't give a Bleep about looks.

You see it everyday in Pattaya just walking around. I think it goes hand in hand with Price. There can be no other Explanation.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2850395]Of course, the smart guys come for Low Season.[/QUOTE]Yesterday my buddy was telling me that he started the lease on his condo during low season, so that every year when he reups the price will be low. I never understood why people wanted to come when there are more guys either. Super-low season (covid) was where it was at!

Inviting ladies to come to your place (as opposed to bringing them yourself) has one drawback. Sometimes they show up with a friend. And that's not good. I never let the friend into the condo.

Yesterday, an invited lady showed up with her sister. I sent the sister packing (she drove my friend to the condo, and I guess she figured it was worth a try to get a paid session).

You don't want the 2nd lady, because what will happen is the 2 ladies will drink and talk and ignore you. Even if they get a little drunk, they will be "too shy" to do anything.

So, the lady came up alone. She's a cashier, but claimed she does go ST with customers (she lives with her Thai boyfriend so can't go Long Time) infrequently, and only HJ and BJ.

After some drinking, I did some pussy licking, after that, she was raring to go. I guess she forgot about her boyfriend for a while.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2850393]Per Google Maps, the address of the bar is:

91/15 Pattaya City, Bang Lamung District, Chon Buri 20150.

Again, I am not recommending anyone go there, as its a traditional Thai bar. There are Farang bars in the Darkside, where fun can be had. One example is the Darkside Bar on Khao Talo road, just before it turns into Khao Talo 9. Lots of doable ladies, but I rarely get out there.[/QUOTE]The address you give, in Pattaya it is useless unless you provide the Moo? There is Moo 1- 10 plus, 1 is further north as you work you way up to Khao Noi that is close to 10. Based on your address the Thai Post office guy wouldn't leave the barn to make the delivery.

Yes there are lots of bars and clubs spread out here, too many most are a waste of time. The bar you noted change of name or new owner, but it use to be KiKi bar. It is a walking distant from Castor Gym Pass the Gym there are another dozen more than what it use to be. Curious what is your definition of a Thai Bar?