GT pricing structure is still the same
[QUOTE=Londonbasketcase]Meindorfer,
I take it what you say about GT pricing is correct as I have not been there since the end of May 2008. That is, for the second half hour now it is standard that a girl charges €50 and no longer €25 for the second half hour.
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[QUOTE=Uhclem]
The session was one hour, two shots with one of them CIM.
As I was leaving the club I spoke with the lady at the front desk about the pricing structure. I found out rate should have been 100€. [/QUOTE]
LBC, the lady at the desk stated 100 euro's for an hour with CIM... (50+25+25) That was just posted below. So the 25 euro's for the second half hour is still in effect for the club.
Im not sure what would happen if the girl told you the second half hour would be 50 euro's before you went in the room and you only gave her 25...would the second 50 be a private agreement and overrule the clubs 25 euro second half hour charge?
Now if you went with a girl and she didnt mention the higher rate...then I'd just give her 75 for the hour. If she complained, then id take it up with the front desk.
God gave you a pair of balls for reasons other than fucking...use them for something else for a change. Girl tells you the second half hour is 50 euro's, say ok and ask the girl sitting next to her if she'd go with you to a room for an hour for 75. If she says no then move on down the line until one says yes...and make sure the first girl see's all of this. Most of their time is waiting for a customer, they make no money sitting on their ass.
Pricing model at Goldentime
guten morgen Breadman,
[QUOTE=Breadman] LBC, the lady at the desk stated 100 euro's for an hour with CIM... (50+25+25) That was just posted below. So the 25 euro's for the second half hour is still in effect for the club. [/QUOTE]
Good to know as for a bit I was worried that it had moved to the full €50+€50 for each half hour since on my last visit I heard girls saying that the entire club would move to 50+50+50 pricing like Hessen but this was not until 2009.
[QUOTE=Breadman]Im not sure what would happen if the girl told you the second half hour would be 50 euro's before you went in the room and you only gave her 25...would the second 50 be a private agreement and overrule the clubs 25 euro second half hour charge? [/QUOTE]
I don't think that situation would happen to me. If a girl says €50 extra for extra half hour then I pay €50 for the extra half hour. I am more worried about under paying the girl than over paying the girl as underpayment of girls does not bring you brownie points next time you visit as the girls will talk and say that LBC is cheap or a tight arse. I just want to be fair and reasonable.
[QUOTE=Breadman]Now if you went with a girl and she didnt mention the higher rate...then I'd just give her 75 for the hour. If she complained, then id take it up with the front desk.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I agree that without any indication to the contrary I too in NRW would pay €75 for a hour's service.
However, if the girl complains that the one hour service was €100 I may confirm with her that I was not told and should have been advised putting the onus back on her but I think once again if she insisted I would pay the extra €25. Remember I am a foreigner in a foreign land and as such an auslander. It is not the done thing for an auslander to kick up a fuss and direct attention to themselves lest they may not be welcome in future.
I am not a local German with all the rights and privileges of a Citizen. although I am a citizen of the European Union but there are different rights and privileges accorded to us. What makes it worse is the passport I hold. We are not well loved.
[QUOTE=Breadman]God gave you a pair of balls for reasons other than fucking...use them for something else for a change. Girl tells you the second half hour is 50 euro's, say ok and ask the girl sitting next to her if she'd go with you to a room for an hour for 75. If she says no then move on down the line until one says yes...and make sure the first girl see's all of this. Most of their time is waiting for a customer, they make no money sitting on their ass. [/QUOTE]
A good technique and yes you are correct that doing that requires Eiers (balls). I need to really be putting myself outside my comfort zone to be trying on that stunt.
My main concern is that the girl down the line that finally says yes to 50+25 session is not my kind of girl and end up being a bad session not because of her but because my heart is not in it. In this respect I am like a girl or a cow I need to be in the mood.
I agree, normal economics suggests that sitting a girl sitting on her cute arse and not using it for provision of sexual services is not a gorgeous arse that is making remunerative returns. Then on the other hand there is structural inelasticity in that some girls will refuse to work and offer their arse for insertion of a male schwanz unless a certain minimum amount of euros is involved.
Though seriously Breadman I do understand what you are saying and this is a common theme that we punters shsould try to uphold lest the inflation of €50 for extra half hour becomes the standard. Like I said I thought for a moment that GT had moved to full 50+50+50 pricing.
Take care,
Londonbasketcase
Dick Travel’s 3 days of fun in NRW and Hessen
The prologue………
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“Good evening, my names Dick Travel and I’m an FKK addict”
Well, maybe not quite, but it’s a slippery slope, I’m on it and wooohoo wahay… clear the way I’m coming down….
This forum is not your normal self help group, more a group for people who like to help themselves, to gorgeous women the world over, but heck, we only live once, I think, and even if we get another go I think I’d just spend more time mongering ;-)
It’s not my fault entirely; I blame the rise of the internet, the addition of GPS navigation to mobile phones and recently the low cost airfares from UK to Europe. Back around 1997 I started using the internet at home, around 2002 I began digging about reading about the mongering fun on offer outside the somewhat limited and extortionate UK scene. Now, a few years on I’ve barely dabbled but have already enjoyed many lovely young ladies in several countries.
I have to date been “mongering in Moscow” (see my posts in Moscow around 2004), “cumming in Crakow” and “fkkking in FKK land.
The FKK’s of Germany though have been my best find, not the cheapest but value for money.
Since discovering FKK’s I’ve been out in Germany 4 times more times.
1-7 September 2006: Oase, World, Heavensgate and PT Dorsten
8-11 September 2007: Oase and Palace
27-29 October 2007: World, Oase, Palace
26/27 January 2008 Oase
28-30 July 2008 Goldentime, World and Livingroom
I’ve only just got back from the last trip, a 3 day visit to NRW and Hessen where I visited three establishments, one I’d been to previously and two new ones.
To continue my “frequenting of the forums”, I’m going to recount my from this last trip adventures and hopefully temporarily ease the urges of fellow readers who are still some time from their next FKK fix !
The trip………
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Flights
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Easyjet flights from London Gatwick to Koln/Bonn
arriving Sat 28th @ 1730hrs local
departing Mon 30th @ 2055 local
Easyjet are ok, no frills, no food etc (well snack trolley – non-inclusive)
I’ve flown back with them a couple of times though and there seems to be a fairly regular “delay” of the aircraft leaving Gatwick to come to Koln on the return journey, hence departure is always late. I found myself sitting in Koln/Bonn departures thinking darn it I could have stayed at Living Room for another hour which I’d have probably spent shagging Kim (see report later) !
Also be aware, if you book through Lastminute.com they fail to inform you that your Easyjet flights are hand luggage only, if you then try and check in a bag at the airport it costs you another tenner each way !! (£10 outbound and E15 inbound)
Car
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I hired a car for 3 days from Avis through lastminute.com for £80.
One might be able to get better but that’s fine by me. Although public transport in Germany is excellent and you can get around between clubs easily with a little planning, I hadn’t afforded myself the time and armed with GPS this is a no brainer easy option. I do enjoy the autobahns too, so much better than Britain.
Hotels
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This time I opted again for the cheap, clean, efficient ETAP hotel chain. I didn’t book ahead and stayed one night at Koln Porz and one night at Linden. The price was around E40 per night including the buffet breakfast.
Day 1………Sat 28th June.
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Easy5375 thundered down the runway at Gatwick at 1510hrs and lifted into the sky, I was smiling, I had a wad of Euros in my wallet and in 1hr and 20 minutes I’d be on the ground in FKK land!
Around 1730 we landed at Koln/Bonn airport and by 1800hrs I had collected my shiny Vauxhall/Opel Astra Twintop transport and was outta there.
First stop was just 15 minutes away at ETAP Koln Porz. I checked in and paid E42 for the night and breakfast. I dropped my bag in the room, did the 3 s routine, (shower, shave and it yourselves guys) and threw the FKK essentials into my bag, those being deodorant, toothbrush/paste. I was set to go. I think it is well worth taking these bits to freshen up between sessions, I’m sure the girls appreciate nice smelling men with minty breath and it might improve the service one receives.
So, by 1930hrs I was on the road, the GPS said 1 hour to Goldentime, Bruggen. I actually stopped off and had some food at a Servways café/restaurant in one of the service stations. Pretty good food actually at a reasonable price.
The GPS took me to Goldentime easily, although I did drive past it. It’s situated on the corner of a side lane and a fairly busy main road. The frontage faces into the side road and I’d whizzed past it.
There is some parking in its frontage and once full people park along the lane. Tip, if it’s not busy when you arrive turn around so you are facing out to the main road, turning around in the lane in the dark later when it’s full of cars is less easy.
I pushed the button on the metal framed security gate and was let in and walked through the front door into the foyer. First impression was it seemed busy, men were coming and going from the changing room on the left and girls were coming and going from behind reception which seemed to be their changing room.
Several men were waiting at the desk. Now, I don’t speak German but soon gathered the place was full as a man came out of the changing room and handed his bracelet in and this was immediately given to the next man in queue along with a robe. This happened three times before my turn. Ok I thought, place must be good to be so popular, but, might be a poor ratio. Entrance charge was E50.
The changing room is good, decent showers, decent sized lockers with good hooks and an electronic lock activated by your wrist band. One keeps belongings and cash in here unlike Hessen clubs with the separate cash lockers.
One nice thing here was that as the girls came to the locker room to be paid you can get a chance to check out the talent and observe the last customers demeanour/expressions and make a judgement on service level ! Plus of course having scantily clad young women wandering about no doubt oozing the female pheromones of recent sex adds to the anticipation of the night to follow
I changed and wandered through to the main bar/lounge. It was busy, lots of men. Comfortable seating, a big 3 sided bar at one end, games machine and seating alcove at other end. Compared to my usual haunts it seemed cramped but then Oase/Palace/World do have lots of space. There were a few goos seating choices to view the door from lobby and observe girls/men returning after sessions.
The club is kind of set in a four sided shape around a central courtyard. Three sides have a corridor the 4th side is the main lounge. Off side 2 corridor is the Kino , side 3 I think had some bedrooms and the girls changing area/showers off it, side 4 was back to reception and locker room.
The courtyard is covered with a glass roof and contains the Jacuzzi (nice, warm and powerful) and the sauna.
Off to the outside of the building on the lounge side is the garden which has a nice lawn, lots of loungers, seating areas, beer fridge and to the right side a village of cabins.
Back from my wandering I grabbed a drink and assessed the line up. To be honest initially I was a bit disappointed, to my eyes perhaps 20 girls, mainly 6’s and a few 7’s and 5’s. The male:female ratio (excluding those in rooms of course) was maybe 3.5:1 at this time around 2130hrs. This ration did improve an hour or so later but the lineup did not, in fact I think the hotties had been very busy and as the male numbers diminished they left leaving mainly 6’s. Also here some of the girls were not naked but wearing bikinis or skimpy outfits. Sometimes I find this more enticing sometimes not, depends on the figure beneath. It can dress mutton as lamb ;-)
At some point food was served, pizza I think, it seemed popular, but I had eaten and didn’t partake.
It took me a while to notice that none of the free girls were approaching guys ! I am used to getting circled by sharks and accosted by corridor hunters. Anyway, within an hour or so of arriving I’d recovered a bit from my travel weariness and seen enough flesh to be feeling a bit horny and it was time to play.
Goldentime Girl #1
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Sat in the lounge on one of the bar stools along the courtyard window side. I’d clocked her from an oblique angle and moved to be the opposite side of the room where I was leaning against the table where food had been served directly opposite her to get a better view. 5’7” or 5’8” tall Fake but very good C cups, lightly tanned skin, slim, but a little extra padding making for a nice set of curves and bum.
I caught her eye and smiled, then nodded my head in a come here gesture, she grinned and with a wicked grin shook “no” and gesture me to her with a “come here and do me” finger waggle and accompanying eyes. I obeyed !
Name: forgotten, how rude of me !
Age: mid 20s
Nationality: Bulgarian
Hair: died blonde with darker highlight/streaks, shoulder length, funky cut
Body: slim, little padding, fake Cs, but soft. 5’7” or 5’8
We spoke a couple of minutes, but I don’t do German and her English wasn’t great.
Light DFK only, said would get more in room when I asked. Deal done and she went off to the reception and came back with a key.
2 minutes later and we were naked on the bed in one of the cabins. She looked great !
Some fairly good kissing, but no tongues in mouths, more tongues out playing and then lips meeting without tongues, not full DFK as such, but nice. Next some BBBJ, this was ok, not great but I didn’t need much this being my first session! First position was doggy, my favourite for girls with great asses, then a little DATY and on to missionary. In this position she tilted her head down and never made eye contact, in fact she avoided this throughout which is a bit off-putting, I guess one can act like you are enjoying yourself or you cant, if you cant then the eyes will always give the game away, she must know that. Next she climbed on top and boy she looked great bouncing up and down breasts bouncing. However, I wasn’t getting the vibes I need for finishing inside her. So, having a liking for finishing over faces or if not allowed (as in this case) then over breasts, I changed to straddling her nice chest. The culmination of 8 days starving myself resulted in one almighty sensation and an eruption which shot a wad straight passed her breasts and to her face (oops), I sensed she was not amused but I was still unloading more all over her breasts
Day 1, girl 1, mission accomplished!
Looks: 6
Attitude: 6
Sex: 5
BJ: 6
Repeatability: 0
Total: 23/50 DT points
Time: 30mins
Services: BBBJ, COF(oops), DFK(light), DATY
Cost: E75
After showering I took a jacouzzi and watched the girls passing for half an hour, then I returned to the bar for a cold drink. The numbers of men had fallen so the m/f ratio was better, but the offerings were not appealing to me much. I was tired and satisfied after a long day and left around 0030.
I drove back to ETAP Koln Porz for a good nights sleep – the next day was to be FKK World. See other report to follow soon.
