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Hola Amigos,
I wonder is the MP '235T' in SS2 PJ still operating? I was a regular with the infamous Hani last time, but I'm just afraid that wind is quite strong in Kelana Jaya these days. Reports in newspapers said they raiding MPs in PJ.
Have any of u guys been visiting '5hynn' MP in DJ lately? I wonder if they still hot in action or not..
Adios.
[QUOTE=Fly Guy II]Hi All,
A poor student needs some financial aid with her Uni fees..poor thing.. So this chubby little, C cup unexperienced girl is on a 1 month fund raising exercise. She is in KL and her performance reflects her lack of experience. Not really my cup of cha but happy to pass the details to those who have the time and energy to train her up. Cost per lesson is $188... Trusted members PM me for details
Later all,
FG II[/QUOTE]Hi bro,
I couldn't PM you. Can you PM me? Where she work? Her name and contact.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Newbie07]Hi bro,
I couldn't PM you. Can you PM me? Where she work? Her name and contact.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Tried to pm you - got an auto reply that reads:
[i] 1. Newbie07 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.[/i]
Guess you gotta become paid subscriber if you want to monger...LOL
[QUOTE=Pj Brat]Have been to prescot hotel, klang. Hmmm let tell you guys the direction for those that have not been there, its actually my first time there. Okie from the federal highway, after paying the second toll go straight passing through the bukit raja interchange and drive towards klang. After the toll u need to pass 2 flyover and u can see hokkien association on left hand side. The hotel is just opposite of the federal highway of the association. So find your way to make a U-turn infront.
Call this girl, give by one of my friend. Then she ask to come, when arrive she told us the room number and ask how many person. Basically was 2 of us, then proceed to the room given. Then was greeted by this PRC, looks around 7/10. Then she said another friend is working beside and there wil be another just few room away. And i went over to other room while my friend stay.
Okie back to the FR: she will be here for a month only and she have 3 more weeks to go.
Name:winly (PRC)
Size: Small and short size
Looks:7.5/10 cute looking
Catbath:just run thorugh only
Daty:yes
BBBJ:7/10 some deep throat
FJ:7/10
GFE:9/10 very friendly and chat with you after the session. Talk about the homeground and all stuff.
And my friend one name ping ping (if not mistaken) was almost smiliar, just abit rush.
Haha come to contact i think need the moss code again
Winly : XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ping ping: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Happy cheonging.[/QUOTE]Its my first time reporting but have been a long time reader of ISG.
This happened only hours ago (its 4am now and have been on this issue since I got back fr Prescott at 1. 30am)
It was because of this report that I went to look up Winly of Prescott.
Called Winly- she invited me up to her Room is 308 Reached room. RM130 for one session but she eagerly persuaded me for RM400 for an overnighter. It was then 12am but without asking or agreeing on fully. Perhaps I gave a subtle 'ok' for one session only. She immediatel took off everything. Directed (not invited) me to the bathroom. Washed me while I stood in the tub but she stood outside. Very clinically not sexually at all!
The room was the last thing from looking or smelling clinical. Untidy and smell badly of stale smoke. 2 super-single bed. The one on the right was the business one, the left was where she had slept in this room for almost a month. In Between the beds is a Dustbin of spit and dirty tissues. (she kept on spitting into this bin while she does you a BBBJ)
In no time, she went to the BJ and had a very rush attitude. Zero on GF attitude.
It was minutes that I got really furious bcos of the rush attitude. Told her off saying that if money is all she wanted. Threw RM150 at her (on the floor) and while wearing my clothes said something abt getting the police to raid her. Didn't think at all that she was equally hot tempered. She immediately stood at the door blocking my way out. Made some calls for help to come to the room ASAP. Basically. In < 5 mins, 1 thin guy (tame in nature) came in, 1 big black indian bouncerlike and then the pimp came the last.
He was very very hot tempered (like how I myself can easily be). But he was Big sized abt 6feet, meaty, patchy formed eyebrows, protuding eyes, no specs, spoke only mandarin and I repeat. Very very hot tempered.
Immediately without warning attempted to hit and slap me. I stepped back fast and he missed but he managed to grab my right index finger and twisted it. Heard cracking sounds. Very very painful sting. Its very very swollen now as I type this and can't bend it more than 45deg.
Threatened me accusing me of daring to make a police report on them. That this was their rice bowl etc. Demanded for my IC or get whacked. His fist was already in my face pushing me to the wall. I complied and the big indian guy took down the details while the pimp continued to threaten me with all kinds of harm and at one time he said he will kill me. Shoved me to a chair and took out his hp to snap a pic of me. Didn't work. He got Winly's hp to do that. Flash and flash. Got 2 face portrait of me.
Reason? "if this place is reported or raided by the polis, I'm going to hunt you down kill you". Quite convincing since he had a very menacing look and bad temper and was readily able to raise his hand for multiple assults on me.
All the while I was explaining the situation to him but to no avail. Was continuing to lament to him to not do harm me further, "don't be aggresive don't beat me etc". Flashed in my mind this was the way I myself always treated my wife and kid. With such similiar violent and aggresive nature. This time its back at me! He asked for the RM130 payment before I could leave the place. Citing that she had already disrobe, thus it's considered a service. In turn I said ok, if I have to pay, then I will still play (despite the 20 min assult, my broken finger, pics of me and IC details of mine taken).
Unexpected to me, they agreed. BTW by this time, I think I was convincing (that I was harmless) that the big black Indian gave me back the sheet that contain the details of my IC back to me. Of course this was also bcos I had given my biz name card to him to show that I meant no harm to their activities. Just that I was really pissed with Winly for her rush attitude
So I think all they had on me was 2 pics on Winly's hp and my biz namecard with office and hp no. But my index finger really really hurt a lot. I think its broken, at least some hairline fractures and badly twisted.
They guys left when I paid Winly RM130. I had to pay to leave. Whether I played or not. I told her my finger hurt and she even did some Chinese sinseh massage and pulled on it. Some kind of straightening swipes action. Hurt like hell even more! Calmed my mind. Ok I've paid RM130 for her. Despite everything, the wise thing is to get some of my money's worth. Went into it. HJ, DATY and eventually my limp FJ. You would be totally unhard too because my mind was on how the pimp threatened me. I couldn't think of anything else but how to get back at him. Eventually I did a DATY on her and she had the mood to come!. It looked genuine and honestly I believe it was bcos she didn't have to fake it. Afterall I wasnt in the mood anyway. But she was? !
I settled for a HJ to finish me off. But already my mind was planning for a tit for tat on her pimp that broke my finger.
Got 15 mins left. So got dressed and sat down to chit chat with her. She let her friend called Mei Mei from adjoining room come in while she pretended to listen to my explaination of the incident. Tried asking her abt the taikor just now and found out that he was indeed her 'boss' and got a cut fr her activities. Oh forgot to mention that while he was verbally assulting me he showed me a stack of RMB China money from his pouch. Demonstrating how he could whack me with the stack of money like how I threw the cash to Winly. Eventually I got a spy picture of Winly for which I will post later. Left the hotel and being very bitter of the incident with the pimp, with my finger still throbbing in pain, I call PDRM HQ KL. Talked to Sgt Salmiah and related the whole incident to her. 20 mins later she called back giving me Insp Salmi's no. He is in charge of arrest operations in the Klang area.
Unfortunately Salmi had a Bad attitude and care less abt me. Only focussed on me making an official assult report. For which he insisted I get to a hospital to treat my finger and of course. Get the report. It was 1. 20am When I got back home, had a long chat with Insp Salmi on his mobile. Got even more rude. Minutes later (2am) he called to say that he had arrested the pimp and Winly of room 308!
Not caring the slightest bit abt my safely when I repeatedly explained that they had my pic somewhere in one of the phones and my biz card. All he wanted was me to press charges by making a report regarding assult on me resullting in a broken index finger. Using this as the case to arrest- which he dare tell me is bailable.
I stress umpteen times that the point was that these guys will go free in a very short period of time (in days) and I will be in danger. "suka hati you la mau cakap apa" and he eventually shut my phone off.
I called the Insp again and he seemed irritated with his constant ' habis you nak saya buat apa' and 'saya pergi tangkap saje la' That was the last I heard from this idiot of an Inspector! Called back Sgt Saadiah of KL HQ and shared with her the Insp's attitude. But as expected, birds of a feather flock together and the last words fr her was "terpeluanglah Encik nak buat lapuran ke tidak" and agreed that I will be in danger anyway, that this is not 'case bunuh' and polis will not be there to protect me if and when the gangsters come. At this stage of writing this, I can only hope and pray that the Insp was lying when he said he arrested the pimp and Winly and that if he really did, all the gangsters have on me was my pic and my biz card. And my finger hurts like hell now. At around 3am an Insp Zul of Klang called and told me that he wll be the OC for this case and not Salmi as he 'buat operasi tangkapan saja'.
Zul was very well mannered and heard me out. He reiterated that he clearly understood my situation. That is if I indeed went ahead to press charges on assult, it would drag into court case and may even be just a fine for the pimp. The charges are not on pimping but on assult. On a finger. I would have to go through the whole deal. From police line up (one way mirror joke? ) to eventual court case. If I didn't go ahead with the charges. They would just be taken in for mug shots and released. He told me that they arrested 2 guys as I narrate this. I told him that I won't go ahead with the case because eitherway, my life would possibly be in danger. Either way they may come get me someday. I would just be another case to the polis. So I asked that Zul be my contact and that I could call him directly if I was in danger. This is just an 'IF' and a 'When' thing.
The long story short - and in summary:
1. I went to look for kai.
2. Brought my home temper with me.
3. Got the kai upset and she called for backup.
4. Backup came, assulted me, got my ic details and pic - threatened my life if they got raided.
5. I played nice and somehow offered my biz name card.
6. They mellowed and gave me back the chit that had my ic details but took my biz card.
7. Still got my pic in one of their camera phones.
8. Had to pay but decided since i had to pay, id play too anyway.
9. Played and left not before also damaging the keypad of one of the kai's phone.
10. Snapping a pic of the kai herself - blur shot but i have it.
11. On the way back still felt angry and wanted dendam.
12. Called KL HQ - got in contact with Salmi - then eventually Zul.
13. Learned lesson that the polis cant help you - when youre involved with bad guys - youre always the victim either way and that there's no justice anyway.
Its 4:30 am and I can only look back at what started out as a short cheong with Winly (Polis said she's arrested) to now my life possibly in the hands of some gangster that may come to my office compound one day with a bullet for me.
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[QUOTE=Cmddata]Its my first time reporting but have been a long time reader of ISG.
This happened only hours ago (its 4am now and have been on this issue since I got back fr Prescott at 1. 30am)
It was because of this report that I went to look up Winly of Prescott.[QUOTE]
You did the right thing reporting to the police about the incident. Gangsterism could not be tolerate associating with this kind of service. Let the police raid the place, the pimp and that biatch winly. You should teach them a lesson or two. Sorry to say, this kind of 'gangster' usually done by chinese or indian pimp.
Sorry mates,
if I read all that 6* nonsense, broken fingers and rushy Bj's....
Really can't understand, that anyone goes for that bullshit,
there are so many hotties in KL.
I've never used such ridiculous escorts or those weird pimps in BB,
and I definitely avoid them forever.
Acerboy, DaThinMan, Viper Z, Kaki and Zimzum, thanks for the info about the KTV.
Too bad that the guy still had things to work on, so we had to give it a miss.
However, I might just try those places out myself! :)
Cheers!
The autobot Editor's Note is PRICELESS
>>>
Cmddata
Its my first time reporting but have been a long time reader of ISG.
........
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[QUOTE=Cmddata]Its my first time reporting but have been a long time reader of ISG.
This happened only hours ago (its 4am now and have been on this issue since I got back fr Prescott at 1. 30am)
It was because of this report that I went to look up Winly of Prescott.
Called Winly- she invited me up to her Room is 308 Reached room. RM130 for one session but she eagerly persuaded me for RM400 for an overnighter. It was then 12am but without asking or agreeing on fully. Perhaps I gave a subtle 'ok' for one session only. She immediatel took off everything. Directed (not invited) me to the bathroom. Washed me while I stood in the tub but she stood outside. Very clinically not sexually at all!
The room was the last thing from looking or smelling clinical. Untidy and smell badly of stale smoke. 2 super-single bed. The one on the right was the business one, the left was where she had slept in this room for almost a month. In Between the beds is a Dustbin of spit and dirty tissues. (she kept on spitting into this bin while she does you a BBBJ)
In no time, she went to the BJ and had a very rush attitude. Zero on GF attitude.
It was minutes that I got really furious bcos of the rush attitude. Told her off saying that if money is all she wanted. Threw RM150 at her (on the floor) and while wearing my clothes said something abt getting the police to raid her. Didn't think at all that she was equally hot tempered. She immediately stood at the door blocking my way out. Made some calls for help to come to the room ASAP. Basically. In < 5 mins, 1 thin guy (tame in nature) came in, 1 big black indian bouncerlike and then the pimp came the last.
He was very very hot tempered (like how I myself can easily be). But he was Big sized abt 6feet, meaty, patchy formed eyebrows, protuding eyes, no specs, spoke only mandarin and I repeat. Very very hot tempered.
Immediately without warning attempted to hit and slap me. I stepped back fast and he missed but he managed to grab my right index finger and twisted it. Heard cracking sounds. Very very painful sting. Its very very swollen now as I type this and can't bend it more than 45deg.
Threatened me accusing me of daring to make a police report on them. That this was their rice bowl etc. Demanded for my IC or get whacked. His fist was already in my face pushing me to the wall. I complied and the big indian guy took down the details while the pimp continued to threaten me with all kinds of harm and at one time he said he will kill me. Shoved me to a chair and took out his hp to snap a pic of me. Didn't work. He got Winly's hp to do that. Flash and flash. Got 2 face portrait of me.
Reason? "if this place is reported or raided by the polis, I'm going to hunt you down kill you". Quite convincing since he had a very menacing look and bad temper and was readily able to raise his hand for multiple assults on me.
All the while I was explaining the situation to him but to no avail. Was continuing to lament to him to not do harm me further, "don't be aggresive don't beat me etc". Flashed in my mind this was the way I myself always treated my wife and kid. With such similiar violent and aggresive nature. This time its back at me! He asked for the RM130 payment before I could leave the place. Citing that she had already disrobe, thus it's considered a service. In turn I said ok, if I have to pay, then I will still play (despite the 20 min assult, my broken finger, pics of me and IC details of mine taken).
Unexpected to me, they agreed. BTW by this time, I think I was convincing (that I was harmless) that the big black Indian gave me back the sheet that contain the details of my IC back to me. Of course this was also bcos I had given my biz name card to him to show that I meant no harm to their activities. Just that I was really pissed with Winly for her rush attitude
So I think all they had on me was 2 pics on Winly's hp and my biz namecard with office and hp no. But my index finger really really hurt a lot. I think its broken, at least some hairline fractures and badly twisted.
They guys left when I paid Winly RM130. I had to pay to leave. Whether I played or not. I told her my finger hurt and she even did some Chinese sinseh massage and pulled on it. Some kind of straightening swipes action. Hurt like hell even more! Calmed my mind. Ok I've paid RM130 for her. Despite everything, the wise thing is to get some of my money's worth. Went into it. HJ, DATY and eventually my limp FJ. You would be totally unhard too because my mind was on how the pimp threatened me. I couldn't think of anything else but how to get back at him. Eventually I did a DATY on her and she had the mood to come!. It looked genuine and honestly I believe it was bcos she didn't have to fake it. Afterall I wasnt in the mood anyway. But she was? !
I settled for a HJ to finish me off. But already my mind was planning for a tit for tat on her pimp that broke my finger.
Got 15 mins left. So got dressed and sat down to chit chat with her. She let her friend called Mei Mei from adjoining room come in while she pretended to listen to my explaination of the incident. Tried asking her abt the taikor just now and found out that he was indeed her 'boss' and got a cut fr her activities. Oh forgot to mention that while he was verbally assulting me he showed me a stack of RMB China money from his pouch. Demonstrating how he could whack me with the stack of money like how I threw the cash to Winly. Eventually I got a spy picture of Winly for which I will post later. Left the hotel and being very bitter of the incident with the pimp, with my finger still throbbing in pain, I call PDRM HQ KL. Talked to Sgt Salmiah and related the whole incident to her. 20 mins later she called back giving me Insp Salmi's no. He is in charge of arrest operations in the Klang area.
Unfortunately Salmi had a Bad attitude and care less abt me. Only focussed on me making an official assult report. For which he insisted I get to a hospital to treat my finger and of course. Get the report. It was 1. 20am When I got back home, had a long chat with Insp Salmi on his mobile. Got even more rude. Minutes later (2am) he called to say that he had arrested the pimp and Winly of room 308!
Not caring the slightest bit abt my safely when I repeatedly explained that they had my pic somewhere in one of the phones and my biz card. All he wanted was me to press charges by making a report regarding assult on me resullting in a broken index finger. Using this as the case to arrest- which he dare tell me is bailable.
I stress umpteen times that the point was that these guys will go free in a very short period of time (in days) and I will be in danger. "suka hati you la mau cakap apa" and he eventually shut my phone off.
I called the Insp again and he seemed irritated with his constant ' habis you nak saya buat apa' and 'saya pergi tangkap saje la' That was the last I heard from this idiot of an Inspector! Called back Sgt Saadiah of KL HQ and shared with her the Insp's attitude. But as expected, birds of a feather flock together and the last words fr her was "terpeluanglah Encik nak buat lapuran ke tidak" and agreed that I will be in danger anyway, that this is not 'case bunuh' and polis will not be there to protect me if and when the gangsters come. At this stage of writing this, I can only hope and pray that the Insp was lying when he said he arrested the pimp and Winly and that if he really did, all the gangsters have on me was my pic and my biz card. And my finger hurts like hell now. At around 3am an Insp Zul of Klang called and told me that he wll be the OC for this case and not Salmi as he 'buat operasi tangkapan saja'.
Zul was very well mannered and heard me out. He reiterated that he clearly understood my situation. That is if I indeed went ahead to press charges on assult, it would drag into court case and may even be just a fine for the pimp. The charges are not on pimping but on assult. On a finger. I would have to go through the whole deal. From police line up (one way mirror joke? ) to eventual court case. If I didn't go ahead with the charges. They would just be taken in for mug shots and released. He told me that they arrested 2 guys as I narrate this. I told him that I won't go ahead with the case because eitherway, my life would possibly be in danger. Either way they may come get me someday. I would just be another case to the polis. So I asked that Zul be my contact and that I could call him directly if I was in danger. This is just an 'IF' and a 'When' thing.
The long story short - and in summary:
1. I went to look for kai.
2. Brought my home temper with me.
3. Got the kai upset and she called for backup.
4. Backup came, assulted me, got my ic details and pic - threatened my life if they got raided.
5. I played nice and somehow offered my biz name card.
6. They mellowed and gave me back the chit that had my ic details but took my biz card.
7. Still got my pic in one of their camera phones.
8. Had to pay but decided since i had to pay, id play too anyway.
9. Played and left not before also damaging the keypad of one of the kai's phone.
10. Snapping a pic of the kai herself - blur shot but i have it.
11. On the way back still felt angry and wanted dendam.
12. Called KL HQ - got in contact with Salmi - then eventually Zul.
13. Learned lesson that the polis cant help you - when youre involved with bad guys - youre always the victim either way and that there's no justice anyway.
Its 4:30 am and I can only look back at what started out as a short cheong with Winly (Polis said she's arrested) to now my life possibly in the hands of some gangster that may come to my office compound one day with a bullet for me.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]
This is a very disturbing story and you were right not to keep quiet out of fear of reprisals. Why don't you report to Bkt Aman to verify the arrests have been made? The Klang MIB are probably the OKT's buddies.
On my second last day in KL. I decided to give peter another call. Asked for yet another big boob PRC babe and the usual process of waiting started. To my surprise, the gal came all the way up to my door. Somehow, she managed to get passed the need to a key card to get up to my room.
Then, all are SOP lah. Strip naked, get bath together and catbath. DATY her a while and then give me BBBJ and then the cap is on and follow by cowgal, missionary, doggy and (i dunno wat the style is called). Finished with cowgirl.
Chit chat abit during the sex. Found out she was here before a few year back and just arrive in KL 2 days ago. She was booked for photoshot by a singaporean for 2 hours last night and another 2 hours session tonight after my session. She has a big pair but sadlly it had submitted to the force of gravity. However, it is still good to play around it. The nipples are long and chocolatd in colours.
Overoll a good shag. told me i am paying too much to peter as she only got Rm 70 out of it( not sure if it is true or just a tactic to get some tip out of me)
Name: Pau Tzi
Origin: PRC
Age: 2X (can't remember)
Face: 6/10
Body: 6/10 (a bit meatty)
Boob: 6.5/10 (big but a bit sagging)
Tits: 5/10 (long and chocolate but a bit soft for my liking)
BBBJ: 8/10
DATY: 5/10 (can't finger her)
FJ: 7/10
GFE: 7/10
Damaged: 310 ( 280+30 transport)
WIR: No, plenty of other fish around
Next time i should have stay somewhere in the city center area to save me on the transport cost. A few more of those i could have get another session with a gal.
P/S: will be in Kl again next month. Hope to try out others gals. Anyone have any contact for outcall services. Prefer to do it in my hotel really as don't have transport in Kl and taxi there is a rip off.
until then, enjoy ur cheong bros. Oh ya. going to put Pau tzi pic on the photo section as well.
Regards
Waterfish7788
[QUOTE=Cmddata]....All the while I was explaining the situation to him but to no avail. Was continuing to lament to him to not do harm me further, "don't be aggresive don't beat me etc". Flashed in my mind this was the way I myself always treated my wife and kid. With such similiar violent and aggresive nature. This time its back at me!...[/QUOTE]
Cmddata, there is something good coming out of this experience. Perhaps now you will make a conscious effort to be less fierce with your own wife and kid, and more balls to stand up for yourself against external threats. A sore index finger is cheap price to pay for this lesson.
I agree going head to head with this OKT is a bad idea. But why the fuck did you let Winly kept you in till OKT arrived. So what if she stands in the way of your exit door. For a "home fierce" guy like youself, you could have easily walk over Winly. Are you waiting for her to become more GFE because you threaten to report her? Whoaaa!!!!!
GJB
[QUOTE=Chongster]This is a very disturbing story and you were right not to keep quiet out of fear of reprisals. Why don't you report to Bkt Aman to verify the arrests have been made? The Klang MIB are probably the OKT's buddies.[/QUOTE]
So true.... :D
[QUOTE=GeorgeJBush]Cmddata, there is something good coming out of this experience. Perhaps now you will make a conscious effort to be less fierce with your own wife and kid, and more balls to stand up for yourself against external threats. A sore index finger is cheap price to pay for this lesson.
I agree going head to head with this OKT is a bad idea. But why the fuck did you let Winly kept you in till OKT arrived. So what if she stands in the way of your exit door. For a "home fierce" guy like youself, you could have easily walk over Winly. Are you waiting for her to become more GFE because you threaten to report her? Whoaaa!!!!!
GJB[/QUOTE]Agreed with you george.
If you're not satisfied with her service, no need to treat her like that, just go away. Share you unsatisfaction with us, and for sure she will got less business.
[QUOTE=Cmddata]All the while I was explaining the situation to him but to no avail. Was continuing to lament to him to not do harm me further, "don't be aggresive don't beat me etc". Flashed in my mind this was the way I myself always treated my wife and kid. With such similiar violent and aggresive nature. This time its back at me! [/QUOTE]All I can say is that what goes around, comes around.
BTW dewd, how is the taste of your very own "medicine"?
Well giving them your ID and contact details even by force is something very against you but if what the police say is true that they indeed caught those guys the more you have to lodge a formal report that they know who you are and in possesion of your pict. This may deter them from coming hard on you because they know the police are watching their backs.
Anyway, whatever you may do. Providing info in this forum is the best way of warning all our fellow cheongster. After reading your ordeal I believed everyone will steer clear of that place and in return those guys suffer because of bad business.
This is the best weapon of the forum...communication!
Anyway, good luck and take care...no fingering for a while ya.