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[QUOTE=Breadman;1366647]How does the Frankfurt RLD's compare to those in Amsterdam? What's the difference in the quality and quantity of the women? I've never been to Amsterdam yet but I'm thinking about doing a side journey on an upcoming trip. I've been to the Frankfurt RLD by the main train station and one down in Stutgart, I liked being able to walk down the hallways and look over the women right then and there. Hated the walk up and down the stairs though. Pricewise I was quoted 30 euro's for a basic CBJ in the Frankfurt Rld's.[/QUOTE]Breadman,

I would go to Amsterdam for all other things (like smoking stuff) it offers but not for girls.

I just came back to Frankfurt (my final leg of 2 and half week trip) from a 3 day Amsterdam trip. I was disapointed in spite of having RLD at the bottom of my Amsterdam todo list. It is an interesting experience to walk through Amsterdam RLD and talk to the window girls.

Standard rate for Window girl is 50 Euro for a 20 minute suck and fuck session (mostly no kissing, and with limited to no touching). You can negotiate kissing, touching or any other services for additional charge. I tried 2 window girls: first one from Romania was good and the second one from Poland just sucked me a bit and asked me 50 more Euros for sex. There is nothing you could do when you get into such situation. Its not like FKK where you can complain to the management. Dealing with Amsterdam RLD Window girls is like a crapshoot. You can try your luck.

I would just stick with FKKs.

At Frankfurt RLD you can get BBFS for 20 EUR, depending on the house and the girl.

HB

Agree with Cane, compared to best FKKs or thermas or best spots in Thailand, Amsterdam RLD is really nothing to write home about.

It is ok if you are already there for visiting that beautiful city and you feel the need to empty your balls. That's all.

Frankfurt RLD is better, at least from the perspective services / price.

Dear readers,

I was wondering if anyone has ever done a tour to FKK clubs in Germany, there are a few websites that offer that kind of service, I like the fact that things are taken care of, transport, nice hotel etc. But does anyone here have the experience. I found some information using google and in the classified Ads section is some information, but I would really like some feed-back from the experienced visitors, I am a newbee so every info is welcome.

Willy (just started) Walker

[QUOTE=Willy Walker; 1368109]Dear readers,

I was wondering if anyone has ever done a tour to FKK clubs in Germany, there are a few websites that offer that kind of service, I like the fact that things are taken care of, transport, nice hotel etc. But does anyone here have the experience. I found some information using google and in the classified Ads section is some information, but I would really like some feed-back from the experienced visitors, I am a newbee so every info is welcome.

Willy (just started) Walker[/QUOTE]All enjoyed and think posted on Argentina Private.

[QUOTE=Willy Walker; 1368109]Dear readers,

I was wondering if anyone has ever done a tour to FKK clubs in Germany, there are a few websites that offer that kind of service, I like the fact that things are taken care of, transport, nice hotel etc. But does anyone here have the experience. I found some information using google and in the classified Ads section is some information, but I would really like some feed-back from the experienced visitors, I am a newbee so every info is welcome.

Willy (just started) Walker[/QUOTE]You pay for your own flight. They pack you as many guys in a room as they can to keep their profits high. They get a kickback from each club, so to maximize that they'll run you thru two clubs per day.

Your better off flying into Frankfurt and booking a hotel near Oase and take a taxi direct to the hotel. Then taxi to any club in Frankfurt, the taxi drivers know all the hotels and the clubs. You'll pay some $$'s for the taxi's but ten times less than you would for a tour. Best of all no fat bugger snoring in the bed next to you.

Breadman nailed it. I've not gone on one of those tours but I've read what they offer and what they charge. They are clearly profiting off of newbies insecurities about going it alone. To keep things simple you can use Expedia to find hotels near your FKK's of choice and rent a car with a GPS. It's easy and you will have a *much* better time.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1368162]You pay for your own flight. They pack you as many guys in a room as they can to keep their profits high. They get a kickback from each club, so to maximize that they'll run you thru two clubs per day.

Your better off flying into Frankfurt and booking a hotel near Oase and take a taxi direct to the hotel. Then taxi to any club in Frankfurt, the taxi drivers know all the hotels and the clubs. You'll pay some $$'s for the taxi's but ten times less than you would for a tour. Best of all no fat bugger snoring in the bed next to you.[/QUOTE]Hi Breadman, it doesn't sound like too bad deal. Hotel, transport for 250 a day, if I take taxi I can spent easily 100 per day, and then a hotel charge is 100 per night. Leaves 50 for that service, I am not a "stay in 1 club" guy. So I would like to see more then just 1 club. If I look at Frankfurt I see around 10 clubs. But the further away from Frankfurt I go, the higher my taxi cost will go.

They say you have your own room, unless you travel with a buddy and want to share a room, but then the cost is lower. But did you ever do a tour and had this experience, or are you just assuming

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1368263]Breadman nailed it. I've not gone on one of those tours but I've read what they offer and what they charge. They are clearly profiting off of newbies insecurities about going it alone. To keep things simple you can use Expedia to find hotels near your FKK's of choice and rent a car with a GPS. It's easy and you will have a *much* better time.[/QUOTE]Hi Neurosynth,

I understand, I know how to use a GPS, but I also like to drink a few beers. However in Oase their beer prices seems to be pretty high like 10 euro per beer or so, I might catch up with some folks from the forum here. I do not like to be my self, maybe I am a little insecure and like to around with others, but I also think it is more fun when you are with a "small" group.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1368162]You pay for your own flight. They pack you as many guys in a room as they can to keep their profits high. They get a kickback from each club, so to maximize that they'll run you thru two clubs per day.

Your better off flying into Frankfurt and booking a hotel near Oase and take a taxi direct to the hotel. Then taxi to any club in Frankfurt, the taxi drivers know all the hotels and the clubs. You'll pay some $$'s for the taxi's but ten times less than you would for a tour. Best of all no fat bugger snoring in the bed next to you.[/QUOTE]Just found this, so if you go clubbing for 2 days with a buddy, you can share a room, if you want to have a room for yourself, you pay only 15 more.

FOR 2 PERSONS. 2 DAYS. 1 HOTEL NIGHT:

Package 05 – 220 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 2 rooms)

Package 06 – 205 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 1 room)

Package 07 – 190 pp / day (normal transport. 2 rooms)

Package 08 – 175 pp / day (normal transport. 1 room)

(*) Normal transport is BMW330D E46

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1368263]Breadman nailed it. I've not gone on one of those tours but I've read what they offer and what they charge. They are clearly profiting off of newbies insecurities about going it alone. To keep things simple you can use Expedia to find hotels near your FKK's of choice and rent a car with a GPS. It's easy and you will have a *much* better time.[/QUOTE]I've talked to guys who went on these tours, so my 'generalization' is very close to what goes on. Three or four guys to a room (with those nice rollaway beds) is not my idea of a sex tour. Throw in some strange food that isn't as easily digested and you know snoring isn't the worst thing that can happen. You've basically got 5 clubs in Frankfurt: World, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and Sharks. Find their locations and find a hotel close to dead center of these clubs. Land in Frankfurt, grab a taxi and hand him the address to your hotel.

Now if we don't hear a word out of Willy, we have to assume its just another tour promoter trying to drum up business. They don't get along well with the members on this board, we tend to help out the rookies so they can avoid getting overcharged.

Instead of a FKK tour, I'd offer to pay HB his entry fees and a few sessions each night and have him pick you up from your hotel and go to a club. :)

I'd like to point out Samya's website, its a great tool to judge what really goes on during the Christmas holidays. Guys always ask the same question during this time "how's the lineup's going to be late in December or early in January?". I've been checking samya's website every few wednesdays for the last 6 months or so, trying to gauge the talent level. Almost every Wednesday they list over 50 girls working. The last few Wednesday's that numbers been in the low 20's. 60% drop in available talent is pretty drastic. Yes, samya is a small club but it offers a tool to gauge just how bad some of the other clubs might be over these holiday weeks.

[QUOTE=Breadman; 1368313]I've talked to guys who went on these tours, so my 'generalization' is very close to what goes on. Three or four guys to a room (with those nice rollaway beds) is not my idea of a sex tour. Throw in some strange food that isn't as easily digested and you know snoring isn't the worst thing that can happen. You've basically got 5 clubs in Frankfurt: World, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace and Sharks. Find their locations and find a hotel close to dead center of these clubs. Land in Frankfurt, grab a taxi and hand him the address to your hotel.

Now if we don't hear a word out of Willy, we have to assume its just another tour promoter trying to drum up business. They don't get along well with the members on this board, we tend to help out the rookies so they can avoid getting overcharged.[/QUOTE]Hi Breadman, thanks for the club list, and thanks for the warnings, I go by myself and let you know how things work out, I will share my experience here on the forum, probably nothing new for you guys, but for me it is. Talk to you later and.

Tx Neurosynth.

Tx HB.

Tx Breadman

Tx Ableyone.

Willy (have to get used to this forum) Walker

[QUOTE=Willy Walker; 1368275]Just found this, so if you go clubbing for 2 days with a buddy, you can share a room, if you want to have a room for yourself, you pay only 15 more.

FOR 2 PERSONS. 2 DAYS. 1 HOTEL NIGHT:

Package 05 – 220 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 2 rooms)

Package 06 – 205 pp / day (BMW 5 series transport. 1 room)

Package 07 – 190 pp / day (normal transport. 2 rooms)

Package 08 – 175 pp / day (normal transport. 1 room)

(*) Normal transport is BMW330D E46[/QUOTE]Again, the key is rushing thru 2 clubs in a day and dealing with jet lag. That package doesn't include cover charges to the clubs, your hotel will be the cheapest place a tour operator can find. 220 per day for a hotel that costs 25 euro's, the other 195 goes to the guy driving you around for the day. If you show up with a buddy, then the both of you pay 410 euro's combined to this guy for the same 25 euro room and a ride to two clubs per day. Now the tour guides making 385 euro's off the two of you.

If you are really going with a buddy, the two of you should have no problems splitting the cost of the taxi's and doing a tour on your own for a quarter what these tour's charge. Fyi your driven to the club in a Mercedes, but id much rather be driven to the clubs in an Audi. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PogGd90yLb8

[QUOTE=Ableyone;1368321]
Just waiting now for 'Mr Tour Operator' to chime in and plug his services.[/QUOTE]

My bet is Willy's the tour operator, funny how he quoted only one of the websites he found.