Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Rstoff;1744677]I would also like to ask Aske Aske (I value your option). If a Hostess leaves the Bar of her own freewill with no explanation to the Bar owner, lets say in the Low season May. Can she return to the same Bar in the High season lets say November and continue her employment in the same Bar with no penalties. Or doe's the Bar owner say NO you owe $10 Bar fine for every day you where absent?. Will she have to find work in another Bar and explain why she left her last employer. Sorry for being naive but this is all new to me.[/QUOTE]Hi Rstoff.

In most bars the girl can leave and come back after some time. If she only leave for maybe two days with no explanation she owe the bar the BF.

[QUOTE=Rstoff;1744594]I was last in PP in March this year for just 10 days. I have always been a little embarrassed and coy when asking a BG all the important questions that needed addressing for a good night in my Hotel. E. G: DOGGY, BBBJ, GFE, DATY. So towards the end of my stay I just asked them if they were a " Starfish ". This approach was very successful, as all who said they were not Starfish lived up to my expectations in the sack. It was only the young 20/24 year old girls who seemed not to understand the concept of Starfish. Do you find this is the case with most girls or was I just a little unlucky? I will use the same approach when I come back to PP in November.[/QUOTE]I don't know why, but in Cambodia many girls are starfish. I have not spend much time in Thailand, so I don't know how it is there. In the Philiphine girls are much better. You ask the girls "are you a starfish". Brilliant. I will do that next time.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1745329]I don't know why, but in Cambodia many girls are starfish. I have not spend much time in Thailand, so I don't know how it is there. In the Philiphine girls are much better. You ask the girls "are you a starfish". Brilliant. I will do that next time.[/QUOTE]Yes It worked well with me. 69 bar on Street 136 certainly lived up to it's name. I remember I BF a cute 23 year old from there in March and she was awesome. Never shy, just GFE all night for $60. Unfortunately it was my last night in PP, otherwise I would have had a 2nd helping. I was a little surprise when she understood the meaning of the word "Starfish". A lot of the younger girls did not. I also noticed if you dress well (I had shirt and loose tie most nights) the girls seem to go crazy for me. Just shows women appreciate someone who makes the effort no matter where they in the World.

So I've been here for about 2 weeks and so far I will say PP is not the premier location for P4P, at least for black guys. If you are looking for great options and good service then BKK is the best in SEA. KL is probably next and then Manila.

My scenario: it had been a long night on town and I had a want to find a companion for the night. As mentioned in my earlier posts, I like big butts. Really big butts. But this isn't BKK or KL so for the most part I'll have to settle for a Khmer. Girl.

Night started out nice. Went out to a few regular bars just to juice up. Got down to Pontoon around 1:30 am when the club was fully ablaze. Started off well, danced and made some good convo. Then I went in for the kill.

I went to the bar and looked at girls who seemed interested. Found some decent looking girls but nothing with that wow factor. Finally spotted 2 ladies who were willing for a 3 some. Damage, 60 a piece. Not bad, not bad. We agree and head back to my place. From the moment I got back I knew I picked the wrong deal.

The girls were very picky about minute things. One would suck while the other one watched. They were very disengaged and when it got time for the actual sex, they would just watch one as the other one looked. There wasn't much by the way of mutual fondling or touching. The head was lackluster and they always wanted to wipe by Johnson every single time. To top it all off I could not stroke properly because they complained I'm too large. This is not the first time.

After about 15 min of BS I decided enough was enough. I paid them both and accepted the night for what it is.

So unless I'm find myself an African lady or an attractive Khmer girl that is good with her service, I think I'll stick to BKK and the other hot spots in SEA.

This is my personal experience, I know many guys that have had better.

By the way, what is a "starfish".

[QUOTE=Mozam;1745612]
By the way, what is a "starfish".[/QUOTE]A starfish is girl that has no talent or technique for sex. That is, she just lays there spreed out dead in the water, like a starfish.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1745612]So I've been here for about 2 weeks and so far I will say PP is not the premier location for P4P, at least for black guys.[/QUOTE]As a black guy who will be visiting SR+PP in a little over a week from now, I'm curious by what you mean when you say this--is it because girls in general /9-10's don't take Black customers as proactively as they do White guys, or is it just that you don't think Khmers have the body type Black dudes stereo typically prefer (e. G. - Dominicanas)?

No tone on the internet, so it's worth noting I'm not saying this with any implied malice or spite towards your tastes (I like 'them thick too, but variety is the spice of life); I just would really like a head's up as to what I'm getting myself into, and a lead as to whether or not I should divert any of my PP / HCMC days to a KL side-trip.

Gentlemen:

I will be in PP for 3 nights in mid-August for 3 nights and I am looking for a hotel. I'd like something girl friendly, in the Riverside area and my budget is around $50 a night. Can anyone recommend a place?

I've RTFFed but there really isn't much hotel info here.

Many thanks and I will post my adventures (as always)!

Uncle V.

UV, I stayed at a place called BJ's House near the river in PP in 2012. Look it up on agoda. As I recall, it was inexpensive, clean, good staff and close to bars like Dream Bar and Rose Bar (where they use to have a busty one named Dina and maybe she is still there. Good luck.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1746553]Gentlemen:

I will be in PP for 3 nights in mid-August for 3 nights and I am looking for a hotel. I'd like something girl friendly, in the Riverside area and my budget is around $50 a night. Can anyone recommend a place?

I've RTFFed but there really isn't much hotel info here.

Many thanks and I will post my adventures (as always)!

Uncle V.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1746553]Gentlemen:

I will be in PP for 3 nights in mid-August for 3 nights and I am looking for a hotel. I'd like something girl friendly, in the Riverside area and my budget is around $50 a night. Can anyone recommend a place?

Uncle V.[/QUOTE]Uncle V,

Check out the Riverside Suites. I just noticed that Agoda has a deal on the deluxe suite with a large riverside balcony for $67/ night. I have stayed at this hotel in this room and it is very good for the money. The hotel is girl friendly AND very secure.

You should also check out the Lux Riverside Hotel and Apartments. I have not stayed here, but a friend has and he highly recommends it. Rooms start on Agoda for $40/ night, but I would recommend upgrading to a one bedroom apartment for $53/ night. The Lux ain't fancy, but it is nice, friendly, and clean plus it is right in the heart of the action. But so is the Riverside Suites.

Have a great trip. I know you are going to enjoy Phom Penh.

NB.

[QUOTE=Advantageous;1746406]As a black guy who will be visiting SR+PP in a little over a week from now, I'm curious by what you mean when you say this--is it because girls in general /9-10's don't take Black customers as proactively as they do White guys, or is it just that you don't think Khmers have the body type Black dudes stereo typically prefer (e. G. - Dominicanas)?

No tone on the internet, so it's worth noting I'm not saying this with any implied malice or spite towards your tastes (I like 'them thick too, but variety is the spice of life); I just would really like a head's up as to what I'm getting myself into, and a lead as to whether or not I should divert any of my PP / HCMC days to a KL side-trip.[/QUOTE]Hey Advantageous,

I'm glad you're deciding to check out the PP area for your time down here. I'll use this time to clarify my statement.

So as a black guy (6'0 ft, in pretty good shape, still pretty young) , it's not so much that you won't score with Khmer girls, but just be prepared for an upsell in their services. I have a buddy who wingman with me sometimes (he's white, same physical stats as myself) and he pays 30% less for the same girls (we've both tested this numerous times at Pontoon). You will score no doubt, but you may have to go an extra mile, and you may not get as many of the outward "signs" of intent from the freelance girls. No lie, I had a situation where both of us went to a girlie bar and he got the attention and I got the attention from the lesser looking girls.

So a theory as to why this might be the case. Many of the black guys found in Phnom Penh and SEA for the matter of fact, are usually from Sub-Saharan Africa and have come here looking for better opportunities. Often time, those opportunities they hope for don't come as expected and these men are forced to "other" sources of income. It reflects negatively on them and from there the stereotype is born. Mind you, I'm from the states, but get clumped into the same category. Also, my friend told me that one of the girls that didn't want to come back with me was scared because she'd never been with a black guy and was "intimidated". I guess she's been watching too many pornos if you get my drift.

So I'll leave you with this. Still come to PP. Even with my hiccup I've still scored and no I can still score easily, just with a little more effort in comparison to BKK or KL (where the girls are a bit more "seasoned" PP has the charm of being easily navigable but still being large enough to explore. Obviously the market isn't has famed as BKK, Pattaya, Angeles City or KL, but it will do you plenty of fun (I have yet to encounter a street like Sukhumvit Road in BKK that has an abundance of Freelancers). Just follow this guide and hit the spots people talk about (51st, Pontoon, 136 etc).

Lastly, yes, I love them thick. I'm still looking forward to finding a girl of that frame. I will still look and I'm sure if / when I find. It will be well worth the wait.

Thanks for the tips Natty and the-Cups.

I think I may try Lux or one of the options next to it, LE Grand Mekong, River 108 Boutique Hotel or the Ohana Phnom Penh. Does anyone know if these two are Girl Friendly?

Thanks for the help!

Uncle-V.

[QUOTE=Mozam;1746599]Hey Advantageous,

I'm glad you're deciding to check out the PP area for your time down here. I'll use this time to clarify my statement.

So as a black guy (6'0 ft, in pretty good shape, still pretty young) , it's not so much that you won't score with Khmer girls, but just be prepared for an upsell in their services. I have a buddy who wingman with me sometimes (he's white, same physical stats as myself) and he pays 30% less for the same girls (we've both tested this numerous times at Pontoon). You will score no doubt, but you may have to go an extra mile, and you may not get as many of the outward "signs" of intent from the freelance girls. No lie, I had a situation where both of us went to a girlie bar and he got the attention and I got the attention from the lesser looking girls.SNIP[/QUOTE]Thanks for the handy primer! As a fellow Black guy (5'10, kinda-let-himself-go-after-becoming-a-vet-but-not-completely-fucked-yet, sub-30's) that's a bit of a relief to hear, seeing as PP is pretty much dead in-between my arrival airport of SR and my departure point to AC / intermediary stop, HCMC. I'm really interested in Pontoon based on all the TRs I've read--if you don't mind me asking, what were you averaging in there? I hope dressing half-decent and some spritzes of Jimmy Choo can help differentiate me from the average African castaway pimp lurking the back alleys of BKK, but I'm expecting my wallet to do 90-97.5% of the heavy lifting, depending on the girl.

Also, any chance you have experience in the area of Vietnam? I've noticed that I haven't been able to find a Black perspective on comparative rates and general reception from girls (at least not from someone who has openly disclosed their race in their description or story), and I'd be a little relieved to hear that moderate price bumps will be the most of my worries ("The locals are always getting it cheaper" is one of my mantras).

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1746835]Thanks for the tips Natty and the-Cups.

I think I may try Lux or one of the options next to it, LE Grand Mekong, River 108 Boutique Hotel or the Ohana Phnom Penh. Does anyone know if these two are Girl Friendly?

Thanks for the help!

Uncle-V.[/QUOTE]Hi Man,

Stayed already twice there. Girls no problem. Need to register the Girl and once she will leave you will be called by the receiption.

However Ohana is undergoing a Renovation Right now. Was there 3 weeks ago and the noise was totally disturbing.

Hi guys,

I am sorry if this topic has already been discussed in previous posts, but I am new to the PP scene. And I am thinking of locating to PP one day (Maybe?). So I just wondered. Do PP ex pats ever take a Hostess from a bar, to go and live with them permanently? If so, what percentage do? I was thinking, maybe it makes economic sense to take a girl of your choice, away from the bar scene. I'm sure the girl would jump at the chance at least. Surely she would do everything a man asked of her. (Boom Boom on tap every night WOW). Then maybe just take her out on the town once a weekend. Or do you prefer your bar hopping Macho image too much.

Rstoff

[QUOTE=CardBoy;1746974]Hi Man,

Stayed already twice there. Girls no problem. Need to register the Girl and once she will leave you will be called by the receiption.

However Ohana is undergoing a Renovation Right now. Was there 3 weeks ago and the noise was totally disturbing.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I think I will avoid and call some of the other places to see if they are GF.

I hope I find enough good action to make some good posts for you guys.

Uncle-V.