Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2985535]I recommend a walk down soi 22 if that is what you like.[/QUOTE]It sounds as if you skipped out on the not so legit massage places in the alley's off Soi 22. Cherry, Kiss, and Honey Bee to name a few.

[QUOTE=JoshAllen;2985562]Heading over in April. This really sounds up my alley. What are the logistics though? Do you ask the provider at the beginning? Do they ask you towards the end? Is it like getting a massage then tagging a qv (quick visit) onto the end? I mean how long is the FS typically? I am guessing it's pretty quick? I am not sure.[/QUOTE]I tried to find some posts of mine from summer a year and a half ago, where I posted some detailed reports, but for some reason search only went back to middle of August 2024 for me. Don't know why.

Anyway: I have the normal massage, as that's what I'm there for, and near the end of it either the girl will try to offer a handjob (no interest from me), or I will, ever so gently and slowly, pull her hand down to my dick if I see we are starting to run out of time. Gauging her reaction and depending on whether I want a BJ or to fuck her, I'll then proceed to pull her on top of me if I sense she will not run out screaming rape when I do that. When she's on top of me, I'll basically proceed as if we were on a normal date first date with a girl I don't yet know if I'm going to be fucking or not. I. e. , grinding my dick against their pussy, putting my hands on their ass, brushing my lips gently against them. At this point they know what I want, but will usually ask me anyway what I want.

You need to have some "people skills" to do this obviously, or you will just come of as a creep, or worse. Since I greatly enjoy thai massage and probably have had close to a thousand of them over the years, I have a lot of of experience by now, and also feel when I should very much keep my hands to myself (though, I think that's in less than 1% of the cases). Until you're sure of things, I recommend doing everything very slow and step by step, so the girl can politely reject your advances. Slowly take her hand and see her reaction. Does she pull away in disgust? Obviously you don't do anything more and just lay back and enjoy the end of the message. If she does not pull away, slowly lead her hand to your dick and see what happens. Then slowly pull her closer to you, slowly pull her on top of you.

Like with a dog you don't know. You want to do everything very slow so it does not suddenly bite you until you have enough experience to know what you can safely do and with who.

There's no fixed limit on the FS, but if you pay for one hour of thai massage, obviously you have to finish in that time. I usually start when there's about 15 minutes left of the time, unless the girl is really superhot and I want to bang her for a long time, or unless the girl has herself started before by asking me if I want "special". There will also normally be other customers there, perhaps even farang women, so obviously you can not be banging the girl like you're in one of the many sex shops in the same area. Quiet and discreet, and sometimes some other customer will enter behind the curtain directly next to your mattress, and the girl will refuse sex, often even refuse a BJ, due to that.

8:15 PM. The place is half full already. On the way in 4 ladyboys standing to the left of the entrance and 2 to the right. Inside the majority of the punters are Japanese. There are 3 western guys including me, 2 Indians and about 50 or so Japanese guys. The number of them keeps growing every few minutes. Will report on what happens next in my next post. Quality of talent seems excellent tonight.

Plant Smoke is in Chiang Mai where massage parlours (at least the one last night) hit you up with a two page menu at the reception. In this case daisuki by lolitas.

That is not any fun is it?

I need a quick Bangkok massage tutorial 101 by someone. I arrive in Bangkok tomorrow:

1. I don't like these "packages" massage parlours try to sell (all inclusive) which gives the girl nothing to work for.

2. I do like paying the establishment a massage fee; where after the session turns into a freelance session with the girl with negotiation.

Please reply with brief summaries about protocol in massage parlours in the Huai Khwang, Sukhumvit, and other areas I need to know about.

Anyone bother heading up to sukhumvit soi 78 to that small area down there?

Thanks a bunch.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2985733]8:15 PM. The place is half full already. On the way in 4 ladyboys standing to the left of the entrance and 2 to the right. Inside the majority of the punters are Japanese. There are 3 western guys including me, 2 Indians and about 50 or so Japanese guys. The number of them keeps growing every few minutes. Will report on what happens next in my next post. Quality of talent seems excellent tonight.[/QUOTE]Left and right of the entrance? Are you in the right place? Oh I guess you mean standing outside of the steps sitting on the railing and congregating around the spirit house where the dude sells his tourist t-shirts. There is no right side of the entrance, there was a wall with the sign and the security guard and the stairs leading downstairs, on the left are the steps leaving up to the hotel, so I guess you are referring to the lady boys that sit by the bar sign on the left side of the hotel near the steps? Your description is a little unclear since in 30 years, I've never seen ladyboys congregating around the stairs to Thermae.

Was there around 8 ish and can confirm that somebody resembling Sharon Marsh was really there. Our buddy did spend way too much time physically checking the ElBees to make sure they were in their right spots. But I understand the need to be 100% sure. If you got to squeeze them by all means grab life by the horns and pull hard. He also forgot wash his hands and tip the bathroom lady. No bueno.

[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2985934]Was there around 8 ish and can confirm that somebody resembling Sharon Marsh was really there. Our buddy did spend way too much time physically checking the ElBees to make sure they were in their right spots. But I understand the need to be 100% sure. If you got to squeeze them by all means grab life by the horns and pull hard. He also forgot wash his hands and tip the bathroom lady. No bueno.[/QUOTE]I thought it was a little odd that the OP gave a "breaking news" real time, on the spot update on the brothel in question, mentioned the ethnic diversity of the all the male clients and paid particular attention to the exact post up location of the 6 Lb's. No mention of any chics there, which I would have thought was the info most mongers would be interested to know!

Odd that!

[QUOTE=Larbmoo555;2985401]Yeah I think the "asians / Japanese only" thing is a misconception. If you look even halfway presentable (well-groomed + not wearing a Chang singlet or cargo shorts & flip flops), my experience is that almost any shop there is excited to have you. Treat it as if going to a gentleman's club and you won't go wrong.[/QUOTE]

Thanks to everyone for the intel and information, really helpful. I'll definitely try one of those two places. Maybe I'll start with The Trendy One, as suggested.

I'm already laughing because I don't like singing, and I can't stand listening to someone who isn't the original artist singing a song. So, I hope I'll still have the fun I'm expecting. Hopefully, you can just sit in the room, listen to music, chat, and maybe dance. That sounds much better.
Renting a room seems like the best option too. Hopefully, you can already get a little taste of the companion in there (or better yet, she can get a taste of me:-))). I also liked the idea I read in another poststarting with two girls for the first hour, then choosing one and letting the other go to finish the night with your favorite. Just an idea, but it sounds interesting.

As for BBFS, I'm a bit too worried to go for it, so I never ask and always use protection. Only once, I took a girl from a gogo, and I don't know why (too many tequilas?) But I found myself inside her BB. Well, since I was already there, I just went with it. She told me not to CIP because she wasn't on the pill, so I just finished outside. Whatever.
Anyway, plan is to go there next week, and I'll let you know how it goes unless some other stories come up in the meantime. You know, BKK always has surprises in store.

Thanks again for the tips to all!

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2985600]Don't take any one or two responses here as anything more than interesting anecdotal information or anything to do with a trend or what will probably happen with the next girl you meet and have BB sex with.

In all those years and through the thousands of different girls, from "real" girlfriends to one-night-stands, street girls, beer bar girls, gogo bar girls, online girls, you name it, I have gotten a dose of exactly one (1) STI. It was a case of trichomoniasis that I picked up at age 20 from my then 19 year old university girlfriend. Not a bargirl or hooker. I exhibited no symptoms but she did. She apparently got it from her previous boyfriend.

Anyway, we both took a tablet of antibiotics for about 5 days and all was fine.

That's it. So far. Again, just as it is for you, there is no 100% guarantee that I won't pick up something else with the very next girl I have sex with. Well, not from my GF, of course. Because she's different. LOL.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I'm in same situation. I wish I could finish with condom but those days are long over. It's complete time waster for me so I'd rather not even attempt it. I'd recommend prep before monger trips. I do it and my thought is if one limits hiv most of the other stuff is generally resolvable with antibiotic.

[QUOTE=Larbmoo555;2985401]Yeah I think the "asians / Japanese only" thing is a misconception. If you look even halfway presentable (well-groomed + not wearing a Chang singlet or cargo shorts & flip flops), my experience is that almost any shop there is excited to have you. Treat it as if going to a gentleman's club and you won't go wrong.

Most girls I've had from Thaniya did BBBJ at no extra charge. CIM I am less sure about as I usually prefer to finish with a hard pounding in doggystyle, but I have had a few do CIM when I've had trouble finishing. Definitely not guaranteed though nor is BBBJ. I generally ask the girl about BBBJ within the first hour of drinking, figure I have a higher chance at success if they know me first (I. E. , that I'm not batshit crazy & I live nearby so chances of repeat business are high for the right girl). I choose a girl that's pretty enough that even if only CBJ is on offer, I still consider it a good night. CIP I don't do as I've not been snipped yet, hopefully this year. After meeting a girl for 2-3 times I will ask for BBFS. [/QUOTE]Agree totally with Japanese thing. I've seen so many American / European tourists in BKK dress like they're going to a backyard bbque while generally the asians who are likely split business people too dress decently. It doesn't take much. Think from girls perspective who you would want to fuck.

As far as the BBFS I do envy you who live in BKK and can let multiple "dates" play out into this arrangement. A 4-6 day tourist strategy needs to be different obviously. I always agree to a reasonable pathway to BBFS upfront with girl and obvious never pay upfront. Reasonable pathway is either I flat out ask in very plain terms or say stuff like "boyfriend-girlfriend sex, natural" which is pretty obvious. If she questions later I can point to text and it usually resolves quickly, maybe with a little more cash but who cares as long as everyone feels good about it. Last thing I want is argument at hotel. If that happens I just open door, give them a couple baht for taxi or train and send them on their way. Shitty attitudes = no hard on for me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2985565]So if she would have waited 5 more minutes before offering it, then it would have been fine? Dude, it is no red flag. She is a hooker. What do you think hookers are for? She is used to guys asking about this, so she can already tell you what she offers and how much it costs before you ask.[/QUOTE]This is true Mr E. Haha. Even girls who are using TF part time to supplement income have had more guys that week who paid them for sex then tourist mongers in BKK have socks in their suitcase.

I guess it's don't ask if you don't want a good answer.

[QUOTE=PlantSmoke;2985829]
I need a quick Bangkok massage tutorial 101 by someone[/QUOTE]It sounds like you prefer the negotiation to be with the girl, rather than the shop. It gives you a chance to see how you click with your girl before you decide what service you want.

Here's my advice: head to the shops on Soi 22 (near the head of the Soi, not the side sois) or Soi 23 (partway down past Cowboy and on left side). There you will find girls sitting outside the massage shops catcalling you. They will usually have a 1-page menu with prices that appear too good to be true. This is because the menu price (e. G. 300-400 Baht for an hour massage) is ONLY a massage. You will negotiate the rest with the girl in the room. Her price can vary wildly depending of how she perceived herself, you and her financial station that day. Be forewarned: the negotiation can be a royal pain and, yes, it may even interrupt your session as she tries to haggle with you some more. It's also possible (rare, but it happens) that the girl will not be open to anything beyond the massage: avoid older ladies or ones who simply look unenthused about you at the door (duh).

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2985535] I recommend a walk down soi 22 if that is what you like. As long as you don't disgust her too much and do not seem to desperate, 1000 is my standard price for sex if negotiating, though I've been forced to pay up to 2,000. If they do not bring up money, but just go with the flow and let me fuck them, I tip them 2,000. Most of these shops are immediately before and after the big Marriot hotel, 4-5 on each side, though there are also two shops on the right handside at the start of the soi,

Soi 23, one of the exits / entrances to Soi cowboy has somewhat similar shops, and there sex is almost a given at most shops I'd think, but quality of women is considerably lower, so I rarely looked there.

if my intention was to get a decent thai massage from a decent looking girl / woman, which may or may not be followed by a BJ or sex, depending on the girl and my wallet. If you're going to feel you wasted two hours on a thai massage if it did not end in sex, rather than had some of the most relaxing time in the world at the cost of 1/10 of what I'd have to pay at home for thai massage or sports massage, it's not the place as the girls here are selling massage (often with a HJ), not pussy.[/QUOTE]Haha. Agree. Luckily, I dress well, fit, polite, so don't think I've disgusted too many thai ladies. I've walked around those Soi alleys last year so know what you're saying. I took a bike tour of BKK and the bike shop was right next to them. But believe it or not haven't gone into any yet. I've tried to read massage thread but alot of it seems YMMV or hit or miss. Any specific shops you recommend from recent visits?

I'll have to pay a little more attention to Soi 23 and area around Cowboy this trip. Honestly I stayed at Sheraton Grande last year to experience Soi Cowboy and found the gogo bars and street was not my scene. So I migrated to Thermae, street, online. But I need to branch out a little as it's getting boring. Hence the mix of massage this trip.

1,500 Thb.

Midway down on the west side of Soi 4, in front of a small park with a low wall where lots of them sit on. A bro decoded it as #45.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2984745]How much was the damage to get her?

As soi 4 is pretty much crowded, where was she stationed?[/QUOTE]

So, I don't want to dox myself, but fuck it, I've been going to Thermae the past 4 or 5 nights and wrecking shop after my initial failure at that venue.

I just love the setup of walking in circles as many times as I fucking please, while at most a woman might say "Hello, or maybe just gently tap me with the tip of her fingernail. I know this is grotesque, but there is a streetwalker on Soi 4 with what I assume is a "full-blown" something situation, like a 0 out of 10, who tried to grab my arm as I passed, and I must have looked like neo from the Matrix dodging that shit. I digress. I love the Thermae way. I take my time. I find what I want and I go for it. So far, I have only run into one woman who very politely refused my company (I look like a fucking white 6 foot plus peacock standing out as compared to most of the dudes there).

The second gal I took was a real sweetie, 24 but looked 19, ample breasts that were augmented, but she had enough "meat" on top of the implants that they looked quite nice and were enjoyable to the touch. She had medium-light dark skin, maybe 100 pounds and some change, around 5'4" I'm assuming, perfect straight dark hair, and just that college girl cutie look. I would say a very weak 7, but once I'm in the 7 territory I don't really give a fuck, it's all about service at that point. She was quite sweet and accommodating, no rushing, good blowjob skills, eagerly willing in her participation to make me blow my load. If the entrance of Thermae as you walk in is south, being behind you, I have seen her standing on the outside of the western wall, midway in the lineup of women that seem younger than those in the middle. I have seen her there multiple nights in about the same spot. Best I can do to help locate this one. Damage was 3 K.

The third gal I took was a fucking knockout. 8 out of 10 for sure, not a doubt in my mind. Maybe 100 pounds, 5'2", slender, natural small be size breasts, medium-light "dark" skin, and just classy looking. Like I felt proud to be seen out and about with her. Super sweet, dressed like a lady, funny, spoke decent English, gracious, etc. Again, if the downstairs entrance is South, as in you walk in and South is at your back, she would have been on the North side of the cafe, standing on the outside and a little off to the right where there's some seating. I have only seen her once there, so don't know about her return to that same place in the lineup. She looked 21 but ended up being 29. She quoted 4 K for ST, and something like 7 K for LT (which to her meant 5 hours, and like 2 shots, but really more if you want to grab a bite with her or have drinks instead of getting straight to it). I actually liked and hung out with this chick after our time together. Funny thing, she REFUSED to use my Japanese ultra thin condoms. She's super concerned about her health and I can appreciate that, but the one's she had felt alright so no biggie. So, damage was 4 K, but I got the extra hanging out with dinner and drinks for free, and those WhatsApp deets.

The fourth gal, was a fucking nightmare. She was cute, but upon further inspection I had agreed to 3 K for ST with a 6. But she's kinda voluptuous with light-white skin and ample breasts so I was still excited. Oh my god, was it cocaine, was it Adderall, who knows. She was like this strange little over-energetic ferret. I should have bounced before we got to the hotel, but I dunno, I wanted to see those titties no matter what I guess. Super weird energy, but we got down to the sex and it was an alright experience. She gave me the best service I believe she was capable of in her overly energetic state of existence. Avoid at all costs. She was standing on the "inside circle" if that makes sense on the northeast part of the cafe. But doesn't matter, don't do it!

The fifth gal I took tonight was an absolute delight. She was a bit "larger" by the standards around there, maybe 135,5'4", with banging titties and a nice juicy ass. Light skinned, and with a nice "shimmer" with whatever metallic flake product she had on body and face. Her service was fucking on point one hundred. And she had the perfect sort of boobs for a good damn boob-job, which is rare in my experience. It's either that bigger boobs aren't "taut" enough, or the taut boobs you do find are too small to comfortably fit a dick between, but hers, oh man, she just lubed those bad boys up and held them together with one hand and I held on for dear life. Moving on to the sex, she's just perfect, eagerly accommodating all requests, and just kinda feeling what I want along the way too as far as eye contact, and me placing my hand on her throat and all that jazz. Perfect session. Super happy to get those whatsapp deets. Damage was 3 K. I would rate her a weak 7, but then again, who gives a fuck, unless you're hunting 9's and 10's, and I wish you godspeed in that endeavor.

I love Thermae, but in my few remaining nights in Bangkok, I'm going to fuck up Soi Cowboy / Crazy House. As what I saw tonight on a Friday walking through, there are definitely one's there I want. I just failed to see the talent before. I tried looking up Flamingo to no avail, not sure if it's actually called Flamenco? Anyway, thanks to EverythingThai for the recs. Also thanks to all the gents whom have helped me on this first trip to Bangkok, and if there is anyway I can help in the future, I hope I can. As soon as Ukraine opens up sometime in the future for example, I'm heading there to see if any ladies would like to "hang out," haha, and will report on that or something. It's a lifestyle.