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[QUOTE=Canonade; 1318823]Not to insult anyone, as that has not been my intentions at all, but since this seems to be the way of life on this board, I also suggest you take a reading comprehension course, as I clearly stated my intentions were to visit tourist things, since it will be my first venture into Southeast Asia, AS WELL AS TO ENJOY THE ENTERTAINMENT / WOMEN. Hopefully by putting this part in capital letters you flamers with reading comprehension disorders will be able to understand, that my holiday is not just about visiting tourist areas, but a combination of enjoying the tourist type things, AS WELL as the beautiful girls.

I have read about the bars and so forth, and I know several of the tourist sites, but my point of my initial post was to see what cities would provide me with the better overall experience in experiencing both the cultural sites, and the girls, as I would like to visit multiple destinations, and not just be stuck per se in Manila or a Davao in the two week time frame I have set a side for the Philippines. An example would be would it be wise for me to visit Manila and spend some time in Boracay or Puerto Galero, or Palawan, or would I be better served going to Manila, Angeles City, and, or would it be best to spend a few days in Manila, and then go to Cebu or Davao, or that city called Baguio which I read is a mountainous area people go to excape the heat.[/QUOTE]In my view, the Philippines isn't exactly a tourist mecca, by which I mean that the types of things that attract many tourists are in short supply here. There are some reasonably old churchs from the Spanish occupation, and the ocassional old fort and there are some nice natural areas if you're into what's now called eco-tourism. But there's little here that you can't find in greater abundance, and often in a better state of preservation elsewhere. That said, the places you might find most interesting depend to a large extent on the types of things that interest you. If you can give us a better idea of that these are, then we could probably be of greater help.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1318923]there are some nice natural areas if you're into what's now called eco-tourism. But there's little here that you can't find in greater abundance, and often in a better state of preservation elsewhere. GE[/QUOTE]I disagree a little with this. Some of the best scuba diving plus some of the best relatively undeveloped beaches left in the world are found in the PI. The natural PI really turns me on. It reminds me of Costa Rica in the 70's before all the investment and development came south. These days Thailand, Costa Rica, and many other seriously beautiful beach destinations have been pretty much plowed under. The first time I visited Phi Phi back in the '80's there were no hotels and no inhabitants. It was spectacular! But the loss of natural treasure has been going on for at least 60 to 75 years. I recently saw John Huston's "The Night of the Iguana" again on Turner Classic Movies. The film was shot in 1964 and boy does Mismaloya, the small town just south of Puerto Vallarta where Ava Gardner's hotel was located, looks great. You really can't find that pristine shit anywhere on the Pacific Central American coast anymore. Huston must have had a gas coming down to Mexico in those days.

I have been working my way north in Palawan on three succesive trips to the PI. The scenery just keeps getting better. I highly recommend Port Barton and San Vicente (Long Beach). After checking out the rest of northern Palawan, I think I might head up to Saud Beach, Pagudpud in the most northern part of Luzon. I hear the beaches up there are very good plus there are only a few rustic bungalow type resorts on the beach. It is all very laid back and natural. I know it is a long trek from AC and Subic. Maybe I will run into a very young Filipina version of Ava Gardner and settled down there like Richard Burton in Puerto Vallarta 1964. LOL.

Now the tie in to the previous conversation:

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1318923]If you can give us a better idea of [what you are looking for] then we could probably be of greater help.[/QUOTE]Yes people come to the PI for a lot of different reasons, with different budgets, and different time constraints. How can we give you, a newbie, informed advice if we don't know what you are specifically looking for? Boracay, Subic, and Port Barton are all beaches, but that is about the only thing they have in common. Same same for AC, Makati, Malate, Cebu City, and Subic on Filipina trail. RTFF then tell us what you are looking for !

[QUOTE=Canonade; 1318827]I would be happy to pay my twenty dollars, as twenty dollars is nothing, but I was attempting to familiarize myself with the board and get a hang of things first, to see if it was going to be something that would be beneficial to me, but from what I have experienced from several of the members such as the arrogant self made moderator / internet forum police, rodger, it has turned me off, which is exactly what several of the forum bullies want to happen, as this only discourages new members, and keeps the board a playground intact for the likes of those who felt a need to flame me, and flame other new members on other parts of the forum.

With all this being said, much appreciate your attempts to help me Westcoast1, instead of just assuming things and flaming away.[/QUOTE]Recognise that there are many of us, who are present (and play) on various boards in various cities / locations. We regularly see the " I'm new here tell me what to do where to go " type questions. We all come to these boards to share info, tell our stories, etc. And we were all new, and did our homework first, which is why we came to these boards.

The smarter type guys are the new ones who come to a board and say " I've read about this price structure, is that still correct? Or Ivbe read aboyut this bar being hot, is it still recommended." Taking that route wil earn you far more responses.

[QUOTE=Canonade;1318823]I have read about the bars and so forth, and I know several of the tourist sites, but my point of my initial post was to see what cities would provide me with the better overall .[/QUOTE]Have you heard of the saying "one Man's meat is another's poison?"

Well, there you go.

Personally I have had a lot of fun in Manila, and Peurto Galera, and for cheap. While AC was never awe inspiring. But then a lot of friends skip Manila and land in Clark, since, for them, it is AC or bust.

And a few have enough drama in AC and Manila, they swear by Cebu. Oh, by the way, Philippines isn't the best "touristy" destination. Despite all claims by the Dept of Tourism and all.

You get fleeced, near robbed or robbed, or constantly harassed, simply because the majority of the natives firmly believe that foreigners are rich and it is ok to relieve foreigners off their burden. I. E. The too much money you and me are carrying.

Then again, I had to find my sea legs and I know how to avoid such hassle and harassment. Which takes time. I remember my first visit. 12 years or so ago, when the Customs Lady wanted to charge me "Importation Tax" on a laptop I had. My mistake being it was wrapped nicely and the customs lady insisted that I was bringing it into Philippines to sell it. It was comical, when I said it is only worth 200 $ and she worked out a tax of 15 $ and I was like "you want me to round it up to 20 $ as I don't have change." should have seen her red face. Before she 'warned me' sternly and told me to inform customs upon departure that I am taking the old laptop back out of the country.

Natty Bumpo: as a diver, the nicer spots are freaking painful to reach, and I frown on spending half my money on flying there, or spending days in travel. Some monopoly the resort operators have. So much so, Bora is so over sold I don't want to be seen anywhere near Bora. In my last trip, I bumped into 6 people I have met in Singapore. And well, that was getting too crowded for me.

Canonade: Any forum on the internet requires something: the contributors spend time and effort to post, update and prune useless info: so before coming in guns blazing, you should show some humility. Which you have done so. Comparing to a few other forums, you got away easy. I visit a forum where a few guys from certain countries 'demand' information, and instead of replying, either there is absolute silence, or the person goes into the 'ignore' list pretty fast. Or totally useless replies pop up.

Have fun mate

This is my first post here. I booked three internal flights today for £55 ($85) in the month of December! There's a sale on at Cebu Pacific but you have to book by August 26th for travel between 1st Oct and 31st Dec, international destinations as well as domestic. I have no connection with CPac, just a customer.

Also I noticed that Airphilexpress are very sneaky with their baggage charges. Free allowance is only 10kg and then 150P per kg on top of that!

[QUOTE=Econo Tech; 1318985]Canonade: Any forum on the internet requires something: the contributors spend time and effort to post, update and prune useless info: so before coming in guns blazing, you should show some humility. Which you have done so. Comparing to a few other forums, you got away easy. I visit a forum where a few guys from certain countries 'demand' information, and instead of replying, either there is absolute silence, or the person goes into the 'ignore' list pretty fast. Or totally useless replies pop up.

Have fun mate[/QUOTE]I really admire your patience EconoTech, This is your 10th or so post advising newbies in PH in couple of months, that you go all over again, explaining the stuff that newbies are lazy enough to go back pages and read what you have said before many times over. You are really trying to be helpful here. However, how many times, we seen, the newbies soak all the info. Never giving it back.

Canonade. You made the same appeal from your past posts in Kiev and Thailand forum few days back and you were blasted away from there and you still did not learn and thought I would try my luck in PH forum and you did get blasted here as well but good members helped you out. Still, your arrogance and disrespect to other members is beyond newbie like. You are a brat. I don't think you are planning to come to PH, you just need some quick info to compare with other countries that you plan to visit on a weeks holiday and then make a decision. If, so then you should have really made an effort to know the country before asking for advice that has been said 1000 times before.

Keiv.

[quote]Nice post, and appreciate the information, as I am planning my first trip which will take place in October if my work schedule permits allows me to have time off.[/quote]Thailand.

[quote]Hello,

If going to Thailand for a 2 week holiday for tourist things, as well as for the entertainment, what would be the best timeline for me if I want to see several different areas / cities, and what areas / cities would you recommend in this length of time period?

Thank you![/QUOTE][quote]Hi Again,

I made a post yesterday about trying to get some help in developing an itinerary for a two week holiday. I am hoping the post does not get lost amid all the others that were made. I am coming to Thailand for tourist things, as well as for the entertainment, but would like some idea on what cities would be recommended for me to see during a two week period.

Thanks[/quote][quote]Hi Again,

I made a post yesterday about trying to get some help in developing an itinerary for a two week holiday. I am hoping the post does not get lost amid all the others that were made. I am coming to Thailand for tourist things, as well as for the entertainment, but would like some idea on what cities would be recommended for me to see during a two week period. Thanks.

If this appears twice I apologize as it did not appear to go through the first time I hit the send button.[/QUOTE]Philippines.

[quote]Itinerary help

Hi,

I am posting trying to get some help in developing an itinerary for a two week holiday in the Philippines. Actually my holiday is for a 4 week period, but two of those weeks I am hoping to spend in Thailand. I am coming to the Philippines for tourist things, as well as for the entertainment, but would like some idea on what cities would be recommended for me to see during a two week period.

Thank you for any help you can provide me in securing an itinerary.[/QUOTE][quote]I am sorry rodger but respect on a sex mongering forum is not something that is a priority in my life, and I see by the number of posts you have that it takes up a good share of your life, so go and carry one with your arrogant attitude, and I will continue to do my best to gain the information I am seeking so I can make an itinerary that will be best for my first trip to the Philippines.[/quote][quote]Reading comprehension problem Hatboy? I clearly wrote that I will be in Thailand and the Philippines for a two week holiday in each country, and was seeking the same guidance in both countries to put an itinerary together that will allow me to get the most out of vacation, as this will be my first time entering Southeast Asia.

To the others such as Mr. Arrogant, and the self appointed moderator of the forum, I have read quite a bit of information here on the Philippine and Thailand boards, but it has not helped me put together an itinerary, as I would like to visit different areas. As I also clearly stated, my holiday is a holiday that will allow me to see tourist related things, as well as enjoy the entertainment.

Get off your high horses before you fall, and it will happen.[/QUOTE][quote]Not to insult anyone, as that has not been my intentions at all, but since this seems to be the way of life on this board, I also suggest you take a reading comprehension course, as I clearly stated my intentions were to visit tourist things, since it will be my first venture into Southeast Asia, AS WELL AS TO ENJOY THE ENTERTAINMENT / WOMEN. Hopefully by putting this part in capital letters you flamers with reading comprehension disorders will be able to understand, that my holiday is not just about visiting tourist areas, but a combination of enjoying the tourist type things, AS WELL as the beautiful girls.[/quote]You see, the guys arrogant level changing in the Philippines forum, as he was not getting any troll feed in other threads and the guy had the audacity to say." respect on a sex mongering forum is not something that is a priority in my life" and still expects info from a sex mongering site. Are you for real. All his soft words seems to be just to get the info. Once he doesn't he shows his real nature. If he was really a good guy. He would say. Sorry I understand some of the negative comments as I have not contributed anything. But if someone would be kind enough to share info I would be grateful.

Seems like the boat has already sailed. No point in feeding the troll.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1319261]Seems like the boat has already sailed. No point in feeding the troll.[/QUOTE]Well said SC. He has probably sailed to yet anither country and thread. 14 posts all totally useless.

How many times do newbies do this and never give back. We are not rude or arrogant just pragmatic and sensible. I get loads PMs asking for "digits" which I ignore as newbies think am a nice giving guy LOL (well I am but depends who I am giving too and what I am giving LOL)

When are you next in the Philippines SC? Maybe we should host a newbies party LOL

[QUOTE=Mistral Blue;1319129]This is my first post here. I booked three internal flights today for £55 ($85) in the month of December! There's a sale on at Cebu Pacific but you have to book by August 26th for travel between 1st Oct and 31st Dec, international destinations as well as domestic. I have no connection with CPac, just a customer. Also I noticed that Airphilexpress are very sneaky with their baggage charges. Free allowance is only 10kg and then 150P per kg on top of that![/QUOTE]I just want to point out that the local airlines flying domestic routes in the Philippines are charging very low rates, and you are allowed all the add-on charges. That you want to use. These include PAL, Cebu Pacific, Air Philippines, Sea Air, Zest Air. You should note that when you are making a booking thru their websites, they always show and allow you to choose the "Checked-In Baggage Fees". Which runs P150 for 15 kg, P250-280 for 20 kg, etc. Some of them will also charge you P90-250 for seat select. This is what you mean by unbundling. The airfares today are even less than 10 years ago.

For example: Manila. Kalibo roundtrip used to cost about P4, 500. P5, 500 pesos total. I just checked the September fare for all these airlines. The price ranges from P2, 500. P3, 900 total. And just an FYI, I am a Balikbayan, and not a newbie.

No dis-respect given. Just be aware that airlines are UN-BUNDLING their fees. All of them allow a Free Carry-On bag of 7 kg limit.

Newbie and selfish newbie, so be it. I personally worry much more that someone asking for "details" may in fact be much more sinister than a newbie. I recommend that names, images, locations, details always be left somehow vague or hidden.

Back to newbie or semi-newbie behavior. If you see a gal you played with in the picture forum, posted by someone, don't type something asinine like,"hey, I know her, is that Ima Hore from Buttfk Bar on Rizal avenue?" Don't do it!

Short time rooms and VIP rooms. Don't put that on the Internet. One of my fav bars in the Cebu area was recently raided. Okay, I better stop. I'm getting depressed just typing this sht. X.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1319314]Well said SC. He has probably sailed to yet anither country and thread. 14 posts all totally useless.

How many times do newbies do this and never give back. We are not rude or arrogant just pragmatic and sensible. I get loads PMs asking for "digits" which I ignore as newbies think am a nice giving guy LOL (w ell I am but depends who I am giving too and what I am giving LOL)

When are you next in the Philippines SC? Maybe we should host a newbies party LOL[/QUOTE]

BM, I have been posting this info for some time, since a heated discussion on this forum suggesting that guys who do not glove up are certain to get the clap, because all pinay are diseased. It can be seen from my posts on this subject that these kind of statements are just not true.

I am a hard nosed physical scientist, with a pretty solid background in applied statistics. And I get really pissed off when governments create fear campaigns by deliberately mis-informing their constituencies. So I started to use my own experiences as a case study, to inject some real truth into the discussion. After every trip into SE Asia, where I sex women, I get a full set of tests done for all STIs. My doc now has this down to a standard procedure.

Unfortunately, you seem to have no understanding of statistics, risk, probability, likelihood. What I am doing is to put some reality into the discussion. And if I get a positive result from my next test, after my next trip, then I will post that too.

Thanks for reading my post.

G

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1318806]I don't want to be judgemental, but what if.

A) the next time you get tested and it is positive?

B) if there is 1 chance over 1000, what will you do when you reach 999th time? Stop BB, go condom for the 1000th and then go back to BB from 1001 onwards?

Statistics are not working this way.

There is people never having a car accident in 5 years and there is people crashing their car 5 times in the same period. It does not mean the first one crashed 2. 5 times.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Canonade; 1318619]Reading comprehension problem Hatboy? I clearly wrote that I will be in Thailand and the Philippines for a two week holiday in each country, and was seeking the same guidance in both countries to put an itinerary together that will allow me to get the most out of vacation, as this will be my first time entering Southeast Asia.

To the others such as Mr. Arrogant, and the self appointed moderator of the forum, I have read quite a bit of information here on the Philippine and Thailand boards, but it has not helped me put together an itinerary, as I would like to visit different areas. As I also clearly stated, my holiday is a holiday that will allow me to see tourist related things, as well as enjoy the entertainment.

Get off your high horses before you fall, and it will happen.[/QUOTE]Dick head. YOU can't even get my name right. Go away troll. We all couldn't give a shit. Now that you are owned by the crew here are you done? What a waste of time!
The words of officer Barbrady come to mind. Move along! Nothing to see here.

Since we report here... MBC 2nd floor seems to be more about locals hanging out than P4P. This is just my observation. If you want company stay down on the 1st floor for FLs.

Hello CS, thanks for the comment. But rather than post the question to me, how about you do your own research into the numbers. Say for the countries that we frequent, such as Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia. Get the numbers of infections per 1000 population, FOR STI TRANSMITTED BY HETEROSEXUAL SEX. And preferably by non anal heterosexual sex.

And also get the infection rates for some of the developed countries, like USA, UK, Canada, Australia. And then post the comparisons here, in the form of a table, so that everyone can see. If I recall correctly, the most dangerous country among that lot, with the highest infection rate, and hence highest risk of HIV is the USA.

But don't believe me, do it for yourself. Just do the best that you can to get unbiased numbers. When you are collecting rates for HIV infection, just make sure that you do not include infections through homosexual activity, nor intravenous drug users. Only heterosexual sex.

Good luck, and I am anticipating some interesting numbers.

G

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1318149]Are we meant to be impressed by your statistics? I would congratulate you but on what I'm not too sure. It rather like applauding the guy successfully playing Russian roulette knowing that the very next try he might blow his fucking brains out.

Have you read any good statistics lately on STD / HIV infection rates in developing countries?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mistral Blue; 1319129]This is my first post here. I booked three internal flights today for £55 ($85) in the month of December! There's a sale on at Cebu Pacific but you have to book by August 26th for travel between 1st Oct and 31st Dec, international destinations as well as domestic. I have no connection with CPac, just a customer.

Also I noticed that Airphilexpress are very sneaky with their baggage charges. Free allowance is only 10kg and then 150P per kg on top of that![/QUOTE]Be carefull about the baggage charges. If you paid for 15 KG it has to under that. Once I had 15. 5KG and the girl made me take 0. 5KG and out and put in my carry on. She weighed my carry on also to make sure it is not overweight.

[QUOTE=Genuis8;1319413]No dis-respect given. Just be aware that airlines are UN-BUNDLING their fees. All of them allow a Free Carry-On bag of 7 kg limit.[/QUOTE]No dis-respect taken. (smile) I was merely pointing out that on Airphilexpress 20kg checked luggage will cost you 1, 500P, whereas on CPac it typically costs 280P. Quite a difference. The free carry-on bag is great if you can get away with 17kg total (10kg checked + 7kg carry-on) but I'm flying halfway across the world for 5 weeks, so I need more than that.

I will be sure to keep to the limits, Sammon, thanks for the heads-up.

[QUOTE=Gangles;1319428]Hello CS, thanks for the comment. But rather than post the question to me, how about you do your own research into the numbers. Say for the countries that we frequent, such as Philippines, Thailand, Cambodia. Get the numbers of infections per 1000 population, FOR STI TRANSMITTED BY HETEROSEXUAL SEX. And preferably by non anal heterosexual sex.[/QUOTE]Why should I want to do that? I'm not a barebacker. I take all reasonable prophylactic precautions when indulging in P4P sex. I know that there is some nasty shit out there and with the emergence of antibiotic-resistant strains, its getting nastier by the day. It is my personal opinion that anyone who is cognizant of the risks but still insistent on uncovered sex with prostitutes is borderline insane and a danger to themselves and others.