Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I think this is the most important thing to remember here.

If a girl rates her looks & services (package) at a certain price, then bargaining could result in forcing her to drop her service level (looks can't change).

The only thing that works well for me in the bars or for Freelancers is to always undercut her price by 500 but offer a 500 thb extra as tip if she is great. Example: she quotes 3, 000. I will give her 2, 500 and an extra 500 if she is great. That way I am sure she will work hard for her 3, 000.

But I am not an experienced Bar hopper, more like a massage guy.[/QUOTE]it's an excellent idea! Why didn't I think to do like you

Thank you, nexte time I will try this.

[QUOTE=Mauldid]Times are hard but there are standards, don't want to mess it up for everyone else. Can't give in. LOL

Mal[/QUOTE]Thanks, keep fighting the good fight.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]If a girl rates her looks & services (package) at a certain price, then bargaining could result in forcing her to drop her service level (looks can't change).[/QUOTE]This is funny, because if you are after a good GFE, money doesn't matter too much.

In my experience, when they like you they don't' care about money, and when they stop liking you (hate you), they don't go with you whatever you offer them.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]
As far as I am concerned, I use them a lot and not because of the price, but because it gets me from Point A to Point B in a very short time no matter how dense the traffic is .[/QUOTE]
Best to use motorcycle for short rides only when no other method available. The simple reason is that although the driver maybe skilled, its still dangerous.
Take the BTS or MRT when possible. Use motorcycle to connect to those when haven't got time to walk.

There are a very large number of motorcycle accidents in Thailand and little protection.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Best to use motorcycle for short rides only when no other method available. The simple reason is that although the driver maybe skilled, its still dangerous.
Take the BTS or MRT when possible. Use motorcycle to connect to those when haven't got time to walk.

There are a very large number of motorcycle accidents in Thailand and little protection.[/QUOTE]

Everything we do in life can be dangerous, hell even the water we drink.

Don't be spooked by the numbers, most accidents are in the suburbs or on the islands because some drunks can't drive their pickup properly or because the 10 year old who is riding the motorcycle has no clue what he is doing.

I have taken Motorcycles every day for the last 4 years... sometimes many times a day... that's a minimum of 1,500 trips and not a single scratch so far.

In my books, P4P is more dangerous, let me borrow your words (a little modified): "very large number of prostitutes in Thailand and little protection"

I was planning to try both Eden Club and Bangkok Sisters during my previous Bkk visit. The Eden Club experience was great with Nok and Na. Next day with Nok and Ow. Everything in the place was clean and well maintained. The location near Bier Garten was perfect for me.

Despite all that I wanted also experience Bangkok Sisters. To get PatPong I needed to take the Skytrain. During walk from train stop to Patpong on early Sunday afternoon at least ten ugly dudes tried to sell a massage with some girl pictured brochure in their hand. It was annoying. I had some diificulties to locate the alley named PatPong 2. Finally I found the doorway. If it would not have been daytine I would not have had courage to walk in. The opening led to dark hallway. No lights. Walls and elevator covered with graffities. I ended up to fouth floor. Same darkness continued and couple of stray cats circuled my legs. From nowhere you could deduct you have entered correct place. No signs. Nothing. Even closed dirty metal plated door had no indication what could have had been behind it. I know I was in correct address but the place was closed. Time was around 2pm (14:00) on Sunday. I am an European so 24 hour clock is more familiar to me. In their web page it is said to be open from 12am to 12pm. What that is in 24 hour clock? If it is 0:00 to 12:00 that would not make much sense.

Why would someone want to go to Bangkok Sisters instead of Eden Club? The prices are same. Eden Club premises are immaculate. Girls line-up in EC is adequate at least for my preference.

Bangkok sisters is closed from a long time, it seems.

[quote=nicfrenchy]i have taken motorcycles every day for the last 4 years... sometimes many times a day... that's a minimum of 1,500 trips and not a single scratch so far....in my books, p4p is more dangerous, let me borrow your (soap's) words (a little modified): "very large number of prostitutes in thailand and little protection"[/quote][i]nic:[/i] and i bet you wear a helmet every time? very few things in life are more dangerous than riding a motorcycle...especially in thailand.

i love it in bangkok when the traffic is snarled and the "oh so smart" [i]motosi[/i] taxi men jump the curb and ride down the sidewalk...

from [i]emedicinedotcom...[/i]
[b]motorcycles, bicycles, and head injury[/b]

the increase in bicycling and motorcycling has focused attention on injuries sustained during these activities. most of these injuries are traumatic brain injuries (tbi), caused by the lack of rider head protection. this exposure of the rider accounts for the particular types of injuries seen during these activities.

* although the crash scenario often dictates the area of the body injured, fatal crashes are most often a result of traumatic brain injury. often these are isolated head injuries with no other serious injuries.

* fatal traumatic brain injury occurs more often in adults than children, although children are more often injured in bicycle crashes. this simply reflects the greater proportion of children using bicycles, as well as the lack of experience of younger riders.

* many studies have documented the particular risk of brain injury when riding a motorcycle. the increased speed of a motorcycle and use in vehicle traffic adds risk of injury far beyond that of a bicycle.

* traumatic brain injury certainly can cause death, but it also can cause disabling injury requiring extensive and costly rehabilitation. for many people, a brain injury triggers a significant change in lifestyle and function. brain injury can vary from essentially minor disability to prolonged dependence on a ventilator to breathe and permanent loss of normal function. these serious brain injuries take their toll on families caring for an injured loved one.

* studies examining the rates of brain injury and deaths before and after the passage of a mandatory helmet law showed a significant reduction in the number of both head injuries and deaths. the reduction held true even when controlling for age, sex, and severity of crash.

[url]http://www.emedicinehealth.com/bicycle_and_motorcycle_helmets/article_em.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Fon Tok][i]Nic:[/i] And I bet you wear a helmet every time? Very few things in life are more dangerous than riding a motorcycle...especially in Thailand.

I love it in Bangkok when the traffic is snarled and the "oh so smart" [i]motosi[/i] taxi men jump the curb and ride down the sidewalk...

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mmmhhh... yeah, I always refuse the helmet when they offer it to me, it's kind of gross, I mean, would you wear someone else's condom? :D

And yes, I love it when they ride on the sidewalk, makes my trip faster ;)

Anyway, Thais are used to this, only Farangs bicker over moto taxis getting on the sidewalk. My advice to you is to let them go and not argue. One Farang tried to prevent a moto taxi from passing on the sidewalk close to emporium (2 years ago) and in a matter or seconds he was surrounded by 10 other moto taxi drivers. YES, he was right, but this is Thailand, it's not about what's right. The poor Farang got scared and walked backwards.

Want to make a difference in LOS? here's the news: you can't!! ask OTH. They are how they are so better to accept them that way.

I was a little bored yesterday (dayltime) and decided to go for a stroll up Sukhumvit 22

Starting at the Davis Soi 24 (where I had a meeting) I walked to soi 22, close to Rama4 is the new AIYARA Massage place [url]http://www.raku2.tv/mbdetail_massage.php?id=R010745[/url]
2 real cute girls (looks like WA and BEE) came out as I walked by and started flirting with me. It is clear this place offers extras and they are hungry for customers because their location isn't ideal.
I told them I had to go somewhere and they looked disappointed but, I will certainly be back to explore things further with this massage place.

Many many TTM joints with girls outside trying to get just about anyone to enter and spend money.

Hana was still there and Rin was busy (isn't she always?)

Passed by Rose Massage but did not go inside, something about this place that turns me off, I don't know what though... I am crazy I guess.

Across are 3 TTM/Oil shops and the one with the girls dressed in pink polo shirt caught my eye. A young good looking girl grabbed my arm and begged me to go with her for a massage. I asked her if she would pay me to massage her? she and her friends laughed and they all said yes (teasingly). She said that she would pay me 300 for massage but I would pay dinner for her and her friends tonight. Sounded very interesting but I told her I would be back. I think her name was Tam or Tum.

Arriving at the Famous Lavender! now THIS is what I was strolling for, I wanted to feel miss JOJO's E-cups on my face. Unfortunately, some other asshole (sorry) was already enjoying her.

Arriving closer to Sukhumvit 2 ladies were sitting on some steps eating Som-tum and threw me the Typical Thai prostitute line: "hansum man, where you go?" I smiled adn was ready to pass them but one lady said 1,000 for 2 lady for everything. I stopped, in need of more information so I repeated:

"1,000 for you 2 and everything, many shot? even back? (showing Anal)" They were positive. One of them looked quite do-able while the other was very average. This deal sounded good as I could have paid 1,000 only for the best looking one and would have gotten as an added bonus an extra lady to wipe the sweat off my forehead and change the condoms between shots.

Then the wake up call came: the more challenging looking one said "No condom can do, ok sir?" yeah, thanks but no thanks.

I think I'll go back today adn try that Aiyara massage place (they have some 10% discount in the afternoon).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]mmmhhh... yeah, I always refuse the helmet when they offer it to me, it's kind of gross, I mean, would you wear someone else's condom? :D...My advice to you is to let them go and not argue....Want to make a difference in LOS? here's the news: you can't!! ask OTH. They are how they are so better to accept them that way.[/QUOTE]So...dirty hair is worse than a brain injury. I follow your logic...[i]it's so Thai![/i] Your co-workers would be proud of you.

Who me, argue? Not in the land of [i]Muay Thai.[/i] I always bring my own...condoms and helmet. I have a very big head!

[i]Motorsi taxis?[/i] The fastest way to fly in the City of Angels! [i]Adn,[/i] I don't have a problem with the taxi jockeys riding on the sidewalk, or anywhere for that matter. I just like to get where I'm going. Nic, just know that if you crash and hit your head you could be on the same intellectual level as bad [i]som tam![/i]

Now, smug French tourists in Thailand...hmmm...that's another story. ;)

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Nic, just know that if you crash and hit your head you could be on the same intellectual level as bad [i]som tam![/i][/QUOTE]

It started as a joke but now is turning into a lecture and I'm bored so I'll leave you to your pictures, research and will have my fun somewhere else ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]It started as a joke but now is turning into a lecture and I'm bored so I'll leave you to your pictures, research and will have my fun somewhere else ;)[/QUOTE]Touche'...lol.

On a different note, I did take two girls once at Akane Chitlom and it was a lot of fun...lovely Syo (aka Pooky) was one of them. I wonder what happened to her? A better picture, n'est pas?

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Touche'...lol.

On a different note, I did take two girls once at Akane Chitlom and it was a lot of fun...lovely Syo (aka Pooky) was one of them. I wonder what happened to her? A better picture, n'est pas?[/QUOTE]

Now THIS is the kind of posts I love :D

Fon Tok, you truly made my day! Man oh man Syo was such a sweetheart (and a great performer), I have not seen her since she left Akane 33 :(

My all time Fav was still Manami, what a woman... an attitude that would make a Tulip girl blush!!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Now THIS is the kind of posts I love :D ...My all time Fav was still Manami, what a woman... an attitude that would make a Tulip girl blush!![/QUOTE]OK, one more picture so we end on an up note...

Btw, seems we like the same neighborhood. I had another nice session with Rin the other day. She's still very snug for an old gal. No pictures, though :p