So, I've been super active here lately, it gets hot outside here, so this is my break
So, I gots some questions as to the pricing with Soi 4 walkers, and of course, me looking like a 6 foot plus stork walking around like the most obvious tourist you've ever seen. Still dressed to impress and clean cut, but I know what I look like and the sort of response it gets with these ladies (let's drain this bozo of his money).
Anyhoo, I am get quoted, the exact same amount from these Soi 4 girls that I weed out as looking just as good as the ones I find in Thermae, but they are also quoting me the same exact number I get quoted in Thermae! 3 K for short time. It's not a bad deal, but I here you guys are left and right pulling these honeys for 1,500 Baht. I'm not a bargain hunter and don't like to haggle, so it's not the end of the world, but are these Soi 4 sweeties just taking me for a ride with the 3 K request?
Short field report. Upon returning to Soi 4 many nights to see what was out and about I recant my previous opinion that there isn't talent worth taking from there. The first one was vietnamese, early 20's, tiny frame, enhanced breasts (why do they ALL have to have fake boobs, just keep your A sized boobs, you weigh 100 pounds for the love of god you look fine! So she had some large be salad bowls bolted on, which again is disappointing when the clothes come off. Maybe I will start requesting a short and discreet squeeze of the goods for 50 Baht before I consider taking one next time, I digress. I requested BBFS, and she agreed somewhat reluctantly, but asked that I finish outside, which is fine. I will say that little hotel that's 300 baht is not my favorite place to go inside, but its whatevs. We shower up real quick, she gives me a blowjob to the degree I'm assuming she's never watched porn before AT ALL, anyway, who cares because the main course is coming up. Haha, I'm getting all excited typing this just thinking about it, plowing away in that sweet ravine as god intended, and then unfortunately withdrawing to blast as god did not intend, LOL. Perfect session. Total damage 3 K, plus 300 for the room, and I let her keep the 700 Baht in change. She was a serious cutie, so I felt I got my moneys worth.
Second girl I took, who knows what nationality, probably Thai, don't really care. Early 20's, again probably 100 pounds, light skinned, and again you guessed it: 3 K Baht requested right out of the gate and I just don't have it in me to haggle with a young sweet thing over 45 USD extra over market value as discussed here (1500 Baht). So off we go to that hotel I'm not a fan of for 300 baht, (whatever, maybe that's just the dumb tourist price don't' care). This one wants to use a condom, I offered 1000 baht extra but she declined, so I let her blow me raw for an extra long time (by that I mean 5 minutes for me, haha) then I suited up and pumped away. She was cool with the whole hand on the throat jazz, which I'm super into, and she was like a champ trying to getting into any position I wanted as fast as possible. I guess that probably behooves her in her line of work, "let's get this guy to cum as quick as possible. " A very nice girl, she took care of me. So again 3 K Baht, 300 for the hotel, and to her the 700 in change.
If I was still in a hotel close to Thermae, I would just keep going there honestly, but I really wanted to explore as many avenues as possible here, "street meat" being one of them. I still can't bring myself to enjoy the Soi Cowboy, Crazy House, etc. Model of taking women. I fucking hate it. I tried to walk up to a girl on Soi Cowboy and basically just say, hey you're fucking hot let's do this, some woman comes over who I guess was the "mamasan" or whatever, and was just seemingly doing everything in her power to not communicate well and throw a wrench in my plan of trying to pay a sex worker for money, like seriuosly, god damn. I'll pay the fucking barfine, I'll pay for some drinks I won't even drink, whatever, "I want boom boom with you" - hot girl nods yes. Mamasan is just completely confused by this and I tell her "I pay, how much, go inside?" "Barfine how much?" Hot girl is obviously not free to make her own decisions despite her grabbing my arm and stopping me to say Hello, to her. I literally got my wad of money out like a fucking chump and was like "have money, will pay" and mamasan is again just not doing anything to usher my very obvious request into a financially beneficial situation for her and this poor girl who missed out. Where did I go wrong, I dunno, but Soi Cowboy just seems like an unecessary shit show for me at least. I've got shit to do. I want to find a girl, offer her some money, shower up, fuck, shower again, say a quick goodbye while we both dress with some light chit-chat, and be on my way. I suppose that's not happening there. Ugh, I'm ranting again.
Hey there, glad to see I can still offer some info.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2987074]Yeah the mamasans are robots and dictatorial. Go outside their stated "routine" of actually going into the bar, buying girl drinks and then negotiating they take a hissy fit like you're some sort of criminal. Some girls are like that too. Particularly in massage shops. Don't follow their massage routine then it's like you committed murder.
Curious, you negotiated BBFS with girl 1 on street, but did not with girl 2 until hotel. Was she giving you a submissive vibe on the street so you didn't think it would be an issue?[/QUOTE]So yes, essentially the girl that I got BBFS just kinda seemed more easy to negotiate with and submissive right from the start, some people are just easy to deal with and I feel like I can just go with it. She seemed a bit dismayed at first at my request of BBFS, but I think her concerns were more fear of prenancy than anything else, which is understandable for a young woman. I was happy to oblige her request to pull out for the pop. I don't know how to put this mildly, so I will just say it, I'm not sure that her education level would have allowed her to understand that I have a vasectomy, or what a vasectomy even is or a possible reality in her world, and thusly I can't have kids. I told her I can't have kids to make it simple, but still no CIP, no big deal. And honestly, I'm still getting my "sea-legs" here in Bangkok, I'm a bit of a mess socially, as has become painfully obvious on this forum, but such is life.
Girl 2, was a hustler, should have put that in the report but I figured since there's no way to really "identify" these girls in a way to where one of you gents could find them and have a go, I left that part out. Walking to the hotel, suddenly she's facetiming some girl who shows up in I shit you not 15 seconds fucking flat. And they start trying to pull this let's have a threesome jazz. I wasn't born yesterday, no fucking way. I was mildly annoyed at this point. So honestly, after that, it's not like I was happy to "suit up" but we're obviously dealing with a harderned pro here, so a condom insn't the worst idea in the world I thought, and her head game was on point so I chalked it up to a "win" even sans BBFS.
Thanks for the insights on the whole mamamsan jazz. That's exactly how I felt, like I just want to fuck this woman and I have money can we make this happen? I am willing to pay whatever the standard rate is. Nope, this mamasan wasn't having it so I just walked away, obviously annoyed, and I bet she could give a fuck less and thought I was being an arrogant asshole. It was going fine until she showed up, the girl I was into was hot, and was like "yeah, boom boom, we go. " Oh well.
This ain't your therapy session
Seems like you are using this forum for your therapy.
RTFF and you will know what you did wrong!! Very much possible that you are making all these encounters (as lot of members see your inaccuracies) or you have some real issues (as you said yourself).
In short keep your shit together. This ain't your therapy session.
[QUOTE=Interstella;2986972]So, I gots some questions as to the pricing with Soi 4 walkers, and of course, me looking like a 6 foot plus stork walking around like the most obvious tourist you've ever seen. Still dressed to impress and clean cut, but I know what I look like and the sort of response it gets with these ladies (let's drain this bozo of his money).
Anyhoo, I am get quoted, the exact same amount from these Soi 4 girls that I weed out as looking just as good as the ones I find in Thermae, but they are also quoting me the same exact number I get quoted in Thermae! 3 K for short time. It's not a bad deal, but I here you guys are left and right pulling these honeys for 1,500 Baht. I'm not a bargain hunter and don't like to haggle, so it's not the end of the world, but are these Soi 4 sweeties just taking me for a ride with the 3 K request?
Short field report. Upon returning to Soi 4 many nights to see what was out and about I recant my previous opinion that there isn't talent worth taking from there. The first one was vietnamese, early 20's, tiny frame, enhanced breasts (why do they ALL have to have fake boobs, just keep your A sized boobs, you weigh 100 pounds for the love of god you look fine! So she had some large be salad bowls bolted on, which again is disappointing when the clothes come off. Maybe I will start requesting a short and discreet squeeze of the goods for 50 Baht before I consider taking one next time, I digress. I requested BBFS, and she agreed somewhat reluctantly, but asked that I finish outside, which is fine. I will say that little hotel that's 300 baht is not my favorite place to go inside, but its whatevs. We shower up real quick, she gives me a blowjob to the degree I'm assuming she's never watched porn before AT ALL, anyway, who cares because the main course is coming up. Haha, I'm getting all excited typing this just thinking about it, plowing away in that sweet ravine as god intended, and then unfortunately withdrawing to blast as god did not intend, LOL. Perfect session. Total damage 3 K, plus 300 for the room, and I let her keep the 700 Baht in change. She was a serious cutie, so I felt I got my moneys worth.
Second girl I took, who knows what nationality, probably Thai, don't really care. Early 20's, again probably 100 pounds, light skinned, and again you guessed it: 3 K Baht requested right out of the gate and I just don't have it in me to haggle with a young sweet thing over 45 USD extra over market value as discussed here (1500 Baht). So off we go to that hotel I'm not a fan of for 300 baht, (whatever, maybe that's just the dumb tourist price don't' care). This one wants to use a condom, I offered 1000 baht extra but she declined, so I let her blow me raw for an extra long time (by that I mean 5 minutes for me, haha) then I suited up and pumped away. She was cool with the whole hand on the throat jazz, which I'm super into, and she was like a champ trying to getting into any position I wanted as fast as possible. I guess that probably behooves her in her line of work, "let's get this guy to cum as quick as possible. " A very nice girl, she took care of me. So again 3 K Baht, 300 for the hotel, and to her the 700 in change.
If I was still in a hotel close to Thermae, I would just keep going there honestly, but I really wanted to explore as many avenues as possible here, "street meat" being one of them. I still can't bring myself to enjoy the Soi Cowboy, Crazy House, etc. Model of taking women. I fucking hate it. I tried to walk up to a girl on Soi Cowboy and basically just say, hey you're fucking hot let's do this, some woman comes over who I guess was the "mamasan" or whatever, and was just seemingly doing everything in her power to not communicate well and throw a wrench in my plan of trying to pay a sex worker for money, like seriuosly, god damn. I'll pay the fucking barfine, I'll pay for some drinks I won't even drink, whatever, "I want boom boom with you" - hot girl nods yes. Mamasan is just completely confused by this and I tell her "I pay, how much, go inside?" "Barfine how much?" Hot girl is obviously not free to make her own decisions despite her grabbing my arm and stopping me to say Hello, to her. I literally got my wad of money out like a fucking chump and was like "have money, will pay" and mamasan is again just not doing anything to usher my very obvious request into a financially beneficial situation for her and this poor girl who missed out. Where did I go wrong, I dunno, but Soi Cowboy just seems like an unecessary shit show for me at least. I've got shit to do. I want to find a girl, offer her some money, shower up, fuck, shower again, say a quick goodbye while we both dress with some light chit-chat, and be on my way. I suppose that's not happening there. Ugh, I'm ranting again.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2987154]To get a good experience, you need to adjust to where you are, and show some respect to the people here who know better than you (Mr. Enternational, Nyezhov, etc.), and can offer you some tips if they bother spending the time to write it.
I'm sure you've heard the expression "when in Rome ..." Maybe you can go in to a go-go bar and go out with a girl without paying for a drink, but before you can do that you need to understand how things normally work there. When learning to drive, you need to do things by the book. After enough experience, you start adjusting and understand how and when you can break the rules.
In Thailand, after you enter a go-go, if you're going to say much more than "Hello, how are you, short-time with you how much?*" to a girl, it is expected you buy both her and yourself a drink. She and the bar make money from that, and the girl normally also has a quota of "lady drinks" she needs to sell every month, or it will be deducted from her salary. During that one drink, which costs around 200-250 baht, you evaluate her. Some go-go bars have a scam going where they make you pay for two drinks. One with the alcohol, and one for mixing. Like "whiskey coke" is actually a glass of whiskey, and a separate glass of coke at these places. If they try that, tell them "one drink only". During the drink you chat and fondle the girl a bit, figuring out if you want her to go with you or not. Then you pay the barfine at the bar, ignoring any requests for buying one more drink unless you want to, and pay the girl at your place /after/ you have finished banging her.
There are other places where you can "point and shoot", but go-go bars are not it, and so you need to adjust. Maybe you can take the go-go girl out without buying a drink if you're quick, know what you're doing, and the girl and mamasan also agree you know what you're doing, but then, in addition to coming off as a bit original, you'll be paying 1000+ in barefine, then 3000+ for short-time, plus taxi, plus having spent an hour+ going to the go-go bars, finding your girl, and back to your cave in the hills. All that without having much of an idea of whether the girl you choose is overly drunk, crazy, an annoying idiot, a cold fish, someone who thinks you are disgusting but she will fuck you with a minimal performance anyway, or something else that would have made you change your mind had you spent 5-10 minutes and 250 baht on having a drink with her.
I see the drink price of 250 thb as the price I have to pay to reduce the chance of 30 minutes later feeling I wasted 4,000+ and an evening. That's why I'd only skip the drink it if it was a girl I already knew, but in that case I'd just invite her over before or after work via private messages instead, saving both the price of the barfine and getting a cheaper rate for the short-time.
And stay away from the arab's bar on Soi cowboy.
*I recommend asking this before buying the drink only because some go-go bars, for some reason, have girls who do not go with customers. Or as has happened with me, the girl is on her period that night. 10 minutes later, she will not care or remember she already told you her price, and you can instead suggest a different price yourself if you want.[/QUOTE]That's a great walkthrough / overview and will employ that upon my next return. As far as giving my respect to the "greats" or otherwise, those who have been reknowned here to have trod upon these paths I wish to travel so many times before I, I couldn't agree more. I'm going to limit myself in the future on this forum, to trying to give factual reports, and hopefully lending actionable information when I can. For example, I believe I learned on the trip a method for telling if a woman is a genetic woman or not quickly by just inspecting her foreram quickly for a distinct variation in "carrying angle. " This can be done while saying "Hello," to a respective streetwalker, go go, or whatever. I know you may have 100 percent ladyboy detection, but I would rate mine at a 99%, because I took one from Soi 4, and right before we enter that ol' 300 Baht hotel, I ask her "are you ladyboy. " She blew the fuck up! She started demanding 100 Baht, because I was now, no longer interested for having made her walk, I dunno 50 yards, and wasting 2 minutes of her time. Funny thing I probably would have thrown "her," or him a 500 baht not for my inability to tell the differnce if "she" hadn't grown so irrate so quickly. I hear two different stories about ladyboy's here, story one is that they will alll warn you that is what they are, story 2 is watch the fuck out for ladyboys paradaing as genetic women. The one that I grabbed, seemed all woman to me. I have no defense, not to tall, no adams apple, normal voice, effeminate body, the list goes on. Heavy makeup though, realy fucking heavy makeup, maybe that should have been a warning. I just wish that these transgender women, can accept that, most straight males (I don't really care about labels, just trying to hint at a "truth") are not interested in sleeping with a transsexual, I know that I am not. Oh well, yet another mistake, but seeing as I have met just one lovely ladly here, that I will see as long as she cares to upon my subsequent returns, I'm happy! Thanks agian, and I will try my best to be respectful to all here going on, and hope that I can gain respect in kind over the years. Cheers. That is is I don't get banneed in the next 24 hours for some wild ranting in the rant section. Fingers crossed.
Recommendations on Mamasan at the PIMP
I really appreciate the beginners guide on the PIMP. I plan to hit it up mid March on my next visit. I know it's important to have a good Mamasan or manager to take care of you at these kinds of establishments. It's been a while since I've hit the strip clubs in Houston but when I used to have a good waitress that you could count on always paid off. Is there any recommended Mamasan or Manager to reach out to when visiting the PIMP? Obviously the key is taking care of them to make sure one gets taken care of by them.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2984860]Before I get started: The Pimp in Bangkok is very different from the gentlemens clubs in Pattaya, both in atmosphere and how the girls interact. In Pattaya, clubs tend to be more relaxed, with a focus on immediate intimacy girls are often more forward, and bar fines are openly discussed. The Pimp, on the other hand, operates more like an upscale VIP party lounge, where the focus is on drinking, socializing, and having fun with beautiful hostesses rather than outright negotiations. While flirting, lap-sitting, and light touching are common inside, its not a gogo bar where girls can be taken out easily. Any after-hours arrangements are more discreet and depend on the girls interest, rather than a set bar fine system. The experience at The Pimp is more about creating a high-end, playful party vibe rather than instant gratification.
The Pimp Club is one of Bangkok's most high-end and well-known gentlemen's clubs. It's a mix of a party lounge and a VIP club, where men can enjoy private rooms, premium drinks, and the company of attractive Thai hostesses. The club is known for its lively atmosphere, good music, and a reputation for being one of the top spots for entertainment of this kind in Bangkok.
Getting There.
The Pimp is located in Town in Town, which is slightly outside central Bangkok. Since it's not near a BTS or MRT station, here are the best ways to reach it:
Bolt or Grab Taxi: The most convenient option. Just enter "The Pimp Bangkok" as your destination. Expect to pay 150-300 THB depending on traffic and starting location.
BTS Yellow Line: Get off at Lat Phrao Station, then take a short taxi or Bolt (10-15 minutes).
MRT Blue Line: Get off at Lat Phrao MRT Station and grab a taxi from there.
Airport Rail Link: The closest station is Ramkhamhaeng, but you'll need a taxi from there (15-20 minutes).
Motorbike Taxi: If you're coming from a nearby area, this can be a faster option in traffic.
Tip: Since Town in Town isn't a tourist area, some taxi drivers may try to overcharge. Use Grab or Bolt for a fair price.
Pricing System & Budgeting.
Unlike standard bars or gogo clubs, The Pimp operates on a bottle-service system, meaning you need to buy a bottle of alcohol to get a table and enjoy the company of girls.
Basic Costs:
Entry: Free, but a bottle purchase is required for a table.
Bottles: Start from 4,000-5,000 THB (whiskey, vodka, gin, etc.). Higher-end bottles go up to 30,000+ THB. You can prepay for a membership that can be used over a period of time, which include bottles and bottles can be stored.! You can also buy sets with alcohol and snack foods and some other Thai food and western style snacks.
Mixers: Usually included.
Hostesses:
Per drink: 300-500 THB per lady per drink.
Sitting Fee: 1,500- 2,500 THB per girl to stay with you for the night.
Lady drinks rack up fast, so keep track if you're on a budget.
VIP & Private Rooms:
For more privacy and a better experience:
Small VIP Room: 10,000- 15,000 THB minimum spend.
Large VIP Room: 30,000+ THB minimum spend.
Budget Suggestion:
Minimum for a good experience: 6,000- 10,000 THB.
VIP night with 2-3 girls: 15,000+ THB.
High-roller experience: 30,000+ THB for a private room and top-tier girls.
The Girls & Hostess Quality.
Pimp is known for high-end girls, many of whom are above average in looks compared to Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy bars.
Girl Quality & Categories:
1. Regular Hostesses (Standard Tier): Cute, friendly, and flirty. Usually mid-tier looks.
2. Top-tier Girls: Models, influencers, and Instagram-type girls. Expect a higher sitting fee and more expensive drinks.
3. University Girls: Many work part-time to fund their education. Often shy at first but warm up quickly.
Most girls are in their early to mid-20's, with a few younger or older ones mixed in. They dress elegantly, and unlike gogo bars, they aren't dancing on poles it's more about companionship and the vibe. However, there is live music and many of the top tier girls are dancing on stage doing sexy shows.
The Naughty Factor: How Wild Can It Get?
Inside the Club:
The Pimp isn't a gogo bar, but it's not just a drinking club either it's a hybrid.
Some light touching and flirting are common, but the club has an elegant atmosphere.
If you book a VIP room, you'll get more privacy, and things can get wilder inside.
After the Club:
Taking a girl out ("Freelance Option") depends on the girl. Some will, some won't.
Negotiations are not openly done in the club, but girls will hint at their availability.
Usual Costs: Expect 5,000- 10,000+ THB if a girl agrees to go with you after the club.
Final Tips for a Great Experience.
✔ Go with a group if possible it makes the party vibe better and costs can be split.
✔ Pick your bottle wisely some are much better value than others.
✔ Be clear with the mamasan (hostess manager) about what kind of girls you prefer.
✔ Don't overspend too fast lady drinks add up, and so do hostess sitting fees.
✔ Use VIP rooms for more fun better privacy and control over the atmosphere.
✔ Be respectful to the girls many are working to support themselves through school.
✔ If a girl likes you, you'll know the best connections happen naturally.
Final Verdict.
The Pimp is one of Bangkok's best high-end gentlemen's clubs, offering a premium experience, great-looking girls, and a stylish environment. It's not the cheapest place, but if you have the budget and know how to navigate the pricing, it can be a fantastic night out.
Would I recommend it? Yes, if you're looking for a classy but fun night in Bangkok with top-tier hostesses.
How to Dress.
While The Pimp is a fun and lively venue, it also has a high-end and stylish atmosphere, so dressing well will enhance your experience and help you make a better impression.
Dress Code Basics.
The Pimp is not a nightclub with a strict dress code, but it is an upscale gentlemen's club. Aim for a smart-casual to semi-formal look to blend in with the VIP vibe.
What to Wear (Recommended Outfits for Men).
✔ Smart Casual (Minimum Standard).
Polo shirt or button-down shirt.
Dark jeans or well-fitted chinos.
Loafers, clean sneakers, or dress shoes.
✔ Semi-Formal / VIP Look (Best for a Great Impression).
Fitted button-down shirt (long or short sleeve).
Slim-fit trousers or dark-colored jeans.
Blazer or stylish jacket (optional but looks great).
Leather dress shoes, loafers, or stylish sneakers.
✔ High-Roller Look (If You Want to Stand Out).
Designer or well-fitted dress shirt.
Tailored blazer or suit jacket.
High-end jeans or dress pants.
Luxury loafers or dress shoes.
What to Avoid (Don't Wear This).
✔ Flip-flops or sandals Not allowed for men.
✔ Tank tops, gym wear, or sleeveless shirts.
✔ Ripped or baggy jeans, sweatpants, or cargo pants.
✔ Dirty, old sneakers or cheap plastic sandals.
✔ Overly flashy or loud outfits (you want to look classy, not tacky).
Tip: If you're coming from a casual outing and wearing shorts or sandals, bring a change of clothes, or you might be denied entry.
Why Dressing Well Matters.
The girls take you more seriously Well-dressed men attract better attention.
Helps you blend into the VIP environment Looking the part improves your overall experience.
More respect from the staff The club caters to high-end clientele, and looking sharp gets you better service.
Confidence boost Dressing well puts you in the right mindset to enjoy the night.
Final Advice.
If in doubt, dress slightly better than you think you need to. A nice shirt, dark jeans, and good shoes will always work. You don't need a full suit, but looking clean, stylish, and put-together will ensure you have the best experience at The Pimp.
Pictures of some of the girls are attached. I had a great night with one but wont tell which one it was.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2984887]To go along with my below newbie guide, here is an older post that will give you a good idea about what to expect here. Enjoy.
Sorry for the late reply. I forgot I started a user blog and I didnt see your question. I will answer in the Bangkok thread for you to compliment this post and the newbie guide I posted below.
I have a girl there who always takes care of me so she knows what girls I like. Before I come in I call her and she arranges the line up for me to choose in line. I choose and then when I arrive, they are there waiting for me. I usually choose two or three. Then narrow it down to my choice at the end of the night. All the girls know this in advance and are cool with it. I choose the one I most vibe with and the other one or two are happy to of had the fun and drinking.[/QUOTE]