Abab owned gogos in soi cowboy
Many senior experinced brothers have advised to avoid go go bars in soi cow boy. Request any fellow brother to identify these bars by name for benefit of we all. Thanks.
It could be an Apples to Oranges comparison in my situation though
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2991749]Visited Thermae Bar last night to see how the scene is holding up. It was busy, with the usual mix of Japanese and Korean men, and some Westerners. Westerners were the sure minority.
Observations:
I saw one middle-aged Russian guy strike out with at least 10 different girls. Most weren't interested, and one didn't even bother looking up from her phone while he tried talking to her.
From what I saw, Asian guys (especially Japanese / Korean) still have a clear advantage. Girls are more responsive to them.
If you're non-Asian, it's best to wait for eye contact. That's the only real sign of interest that means something. Approaching random girls who haven't looked at you first is a waste of time.
It took me about an hour to find a girl I liked and who showed interest back.
Engagement:
Once we connected, things moved quickly.
Agreed price: 2,500 baht for short time.
I paid an additional 1,000 baht for BBFS CIP which I just paid up in the room as a tip. We never discussed it beforehand, but we had good chemistry. I took her for a quick drink on Soi 11 at Oskar and she loved the bottle of wine. Taking selfies with her glass held up half the time.
Thermae hasn't changed much. Success depends on chemistry, not just money. If you're a Westerner, don't expect girls to jump at you. Watch for eye contact, be patient, and don't chase uninterested ones. The scene still works, but you have to play it smart. Posters like Koryu who have accurate reports about this place being more friendly for Asian dudes are spot on.
What could he have done? Wait for eye contact before moving in to speak.
[B]So, about Thermae guys. Listen to the posters who are actually boots on the ground. By the way, Tooms is way more experienced in Thermae than I am and he knows how to lock the girls down in there with the least chance of getting shot down. Learn from guys like him with constant boots on the ground.[/b]
For me, I enjoy the bar scene or Thai Friendly me than Thermae. However, this place offers a change of pace that I enjoy every once in a while.[/QUOTE]Hi EThai. Thanks for the mention but I should remind my fellow Thermae punters that I have been all about getting an upfront agreement from the girl that she will engage in BBFSCIP or at minimum BBBJCIM before I tell her "Yes, Let's Go" for quite some time now. Maybe even for DATY and DFK if her big broad smile has not already turned into a grimace of horror and dread and she hasn't removed her hand from my hand or arm like it just turned into a turd at the mere suggestion that I want to engage in BBFSCIP with her. LOL.
That approach has a spotty enough success rate when I am in a gogo bar, a beer bar or on the street. But, as I have mentioned in the past, my absolute worst success rate for getting an upfront agreement for BBFSCIP from the, imo, rather wide range of acceptable looking and pleasant demeanor sex partner prospects, would have to be in Massage Shops, so-called Porn Sex Experience / Anything Goes Happy Ending Shops such as Tulip and Snow White in Bangkok, virtually anywhere in Pattaya and, yep, inside and right outside of Thermae.
And I think this mission of mine to get an upfront agreement for BBFSCIP, before I say "Yes, let's go" to any girl anywhere, before a barfine is paid, eons before bottles of wine are bought at a different bar, certainly well before we are "going with the flow" in the room or at crunch time when I am poised for entry with my bare back dick a centimeter away from her bare back pussy puts me in a totally different category of punter from 99% if not more of all other punters in Thailand, who for the most part would never go about their punting mission my way and, from what I have read and heard, by far prefer the "go with the flow and see what happens in the room" approach. An approach I largely but I admit did not 100% abandoned years ago.
Therefore, we might be comparing Apples to Oranges when it comes to what I lock in or not, especially in Thermae, vs most other punters. My observation of what passes for upfront "negotiation" in Thermae among practically every other punter except me is that it seems to be only about how much and for how long. Maybe for how many pops. But I see very little evidence of any discussion about "for what", least of all for anything resembling BBFSCIP or even BBBJCIM.
It is a completely different game on a completely different playing field from what I am up to.
However, I do think a reasonable comparison or point of reference can be made between me and other punters with regard to locking in an awareness of likely positive response from the above average lookers in Thermae. But only right up until we get to my particular upfront agreement approach. As a 71 year old white guy in reasonably good shape, having showered and put on clean conservative style clothes, armed with a big inviting smile and perhaps a "sawatdee krup" or two, I can honestly say I get pretty darn good positive initial response and even a reach out or four from many except the most determined Asian Customers Only elite hookers in the place.
Perhaps more to the point, my very high rate of eventual rejection from Thermae girls for what I consider to be Real Sex as I described above in context of my much preferred upfront agreement for it approach has never led me to believe less than 90% of the girls in Thermae would absolutely without hesitation agree to go with me in front of god and everyone else present in and outside of Thermae if the only things I mentioned or asked them in the bar was "How much? How long? And how many pops"?
Doki Doki is not what it used to be
Visiting BKK after 4 years. All the previous 5 visits were before I discovered this wonderful platform. Thank you for this trove of knowledge and wisdom LOL.
Went to Doki Doki massage earlier today. Had good memories from my last visit, so decided to repeat. It has gone completely downhill. I visited around 1:30 in the afternoon. The place was deserted and I was the apparently the first customer of the day, or at least that's what the lady on reception told me. She showed me pictures of 3 women who were available, but I asked for a lineup. All 3 were nothing like their pictures, all atleast above 35, and at best, rank no more than 4 on a scale of 10. Since I was there for nostalgia sake, I decided to go ahead, hoping that the performance will live up to my past experience. Chose the leanest one from the 3 for an hour and paid 3 K. Her name was Sonya, if memory serves me right.
Inside the room, it was a familiar ambiance, large room, clean bed, and a large bathing area with an air mat. She asked me to lie down on the mattress, and started with a decent soapy massage which lasted for about 15 minutes. So far so good, at least in the performance. But then, things went south. She prepared the nuru gel, and poured all over me, and started rubbing it with hands. I remember they used their tongue all over the body, right from your toes up till the ears. This lady just licked my back for 2 minutes and asked me to flip. There was no rimming, no toe sucking, and no balls licking. When I asked for them, she said she has never done that! I told her she was in the wrong profession in that case.
The horror continued when she pulled out a condom and started putting it on. I asked about the blowjob, and she said she has braces and she will suck me with a condom! When I resisted, she started licking my balls gently with her tongue and within 2 minutes, again went to the condom. I lost all hope by then, asked her to wash off the gel and end the session. She offered me a massage for the rest of the hour, but I politely declined. She then cleared me up, I got ready and came out in about 30 minutes.
Never going back to Doki Doki again. Will try Aries next, and hope will be able to recover from the utter disappointment.
Will provide by 2 cents on the places I visit and women I meet through the day. Ciao!
