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[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2781948]Are you paying in dollars? That seems crazy. But maybe I misunderstand.[/QUOTE]He's talking about SA (Seeking Arrangements) where gringos go to overpay. It's probably the same women you can find on mileroticos or photoprepagos just showing up in a fancier dress and charging 4 x more money.
I don't know if my opinion will help but I just wanted to share.
I am kind of in the same mindset but here in Greater Seattle area the "talent" is absolute shit, grannies in the AMP's, super entitled hoes on the blade that charge an arm and leg and give shit performance, odor, pimp shenanigans, the list goes on here in pussy prison. I was so sick of the talent here (or lack there) that I went to Cartagena in Sept 2022 for a week and man it was soooo good and haven't partaken in any services at home since I came back to save up. I went alone, and was safe but at times didn't feel safe like in some of the dark streets leading to my hotel. Granted I took precautions I Ubered everywhere (no problems and cheap), I took the girls to my room and kept my eye on them, didn't drink at all with them, and just banged them. I came across only one bad experience as far as smell and service but all the other chicas I was with were great I even had fun with hot 20 year old that I still think about it hahaha. I am honestly addicted to the atmosphere there, girls in bikinis where I could approach them near Stall 4 on the beach (I think? Walk around the street with latinas in tight dresses. I was able to meet some fine ass women.
That being said I hear you. I really want to go to Medellin because of what I am reading here and seeing on youtube, la isla, casa, etc. But I share your concerns about the getting scoped.
I am currently researching going to Rio or Medellin, I feel like you can find some hot younger girls in Medellin in the parques and el centro but hey I may be wrong. At this point its between Rio, and Medellin. I may pull the trigger for March. The only reason why I haven't pulled the trigger yet is the safety.
I did have to walk away from quite a few girls in Cartagena because of their pricing. I did feel that they have gotten accustomed to getting paid more than they are worth because some dudes just pay anything or have poor negotiating skills and then there is the damn simps out there.
Curious what part of Spain or you speaking of where there are hotter girls, is it a red light area?
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2781876]Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2782064]We have huge inflation all over the world, not just in Colombia. So no it's not much cheaper than Spain anymore, I can see how top shelf girls in Medellin can get $200+.[/QUOTE]So how much would the same girl be getting in Spain where the cost of living is higher? If it ain't 5 times more than the $200 you say they get in Medellin then something is off. Why would chicks go work in a far off foreign land where the cost of living is higher, in order to make the same money? Or are chicks no longer branching out to Europe, Panama, etc to sell pussy because they can get the same money at home?
I got a question I want to bring a girl and her friend to Ibiza love motel she is over 18 because I've known her for a long time but she hasn't got her permanent cédula she has the contraseña and her friend has a cédula. What's the process of getting into Ibiza? Are they going to ID the girls or do they just drive in the car with me through the gate? I'm not sure how this one works. Can someone please explain thank you.
I don't need any lectures on trying to get away with something illegal because it's not what I'm trying to do. I've been around a long time. This is a legitimate question.
I just got back from there and had a blast during my 2 week stay. I'm not sure where you are finding these $200 girls, must be Gusto's and I would suggest getting them somewhere else. I did not pay more than $65 for anywhere between a couple of hours to overnight. Getting Scoped is from being stupid and putting yourself in that situation. I have spent quite a bit of time down there and love the Colombian women, most are awesome to spend time with and are not Divas in any means.
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2781876]Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2781876]Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.[/QUOTE]Then go to Spain. See how easy that was. In less than the time it took you to write your post, you could have booked a flight and found a place to stay.
This works for any place in the world. If you don't want to go there and would rather go somewhere else, just go where you want to go. There's no reason to come here and list all the reasons why you would rather go somewhere else. If you decide to buy tools at Home Depot do you first stop by Lowes to yell "I don't want to shop here?
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2781876]Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2781876]Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.[/QUOTE]Dig, I'the stay home bro. Especially if you have some self respect which a lot of guys are clearly lacking here. Especially if you are just going for the pussy and not the culture. It's obvious a few here on this forum have gone native down there in Medellin. A hundred tourists could get robbed, drugged and killed and Medellin still isn't that bad. My "wife" is from a third world country and when I go to visit her family we have to watch out how we move, what neighbourhoods we visit, and at what time of the day, can't leave the house after a certain time, etc. The whole day revolves around security and it's fucking exhausting. After a week of that shit I can't wait to come home to Toronto. Why anyone of us would choose to visit Medellin for a vacation now, while there is clearly an organized group of criminals specifically targeting our group (mongers) is obvious. Let's just call it what it is, it's total and complete desperation. I realize I'm being judgemental and my situation in terms of bitches is better than most, but it still has to be said. Last thing, I wonder how many of these so called Medellin vets are moving the same way as my girls family. Just basically stuck in one spot never venturing out here or there, always watching their back and the like. That is a fucking prison cell. I'm not saying all are moving like that but I'm willing to bet a lot of them are. The fact that our society in North America has made it so inhospitable to men is what I'm most upset about. The fact that some would rather risk their own safety to fuck a ***** than stay home speaks volumes. There are other spots where you can happily monger without worrying about this bullshit that's going on in Medellin (Cartagena, Dominican Republic (the whole country not just Sosua) Brazil, Mexico, Costa Rica, Thailand, Europe, etc. Sorry for the rant. Thanks.
A Canadian was a victim but the girl was arrested.
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She even tried to steal his electric razor. That's cold blooded. The tramadol they found on her is no joke. That shit can kill someone with an overdose.
[QUOTE=Sun08;2782172]A Canadian was a victim but the girl was arrested.
[URL]https://www.minuto30.com/mujer-drogo-canadiense-para-robo-laureles/1400295/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2781876]Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.[/QUOTE]Yeah its worth it, people just need to stop inviting girls over they don't know to their place like why'all BFFs.
[QUOTE=Mongo1;2782112]I just got back from there and had a blast during my 2 week stay. I'm not sure where you are finding these $200 girls, must be Gusto's and I would suggest getting them somewhere else. I did not pay more than $65 for anywhere between a couple of hours to overnight. Getting Scoped is from being stupid and putting yourself in that situation. I have spent quite a bit of time down there and love the Colombian women, most are awesome to spend time with and are not Divas in any means.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go to Spain over Colombia for the girls. But cannot argue the costs in Colombia have gone up, $100 per night accommodation prices are compatible to those in the EU are common and there are a lot of dudes now throwing money around!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2782119]Then go to Spain. See how easy that was. In less than the time it took you to write your post, you could have booked a flight and found a place to stay.
This works for any place in the world. If you don't want to go there and would rather go somewhere else, just go where you want to go. There's no reason to come here and list all the reasons why you would rather go somewhere else. If you decide to buy tools at Home Depot do you first stop by Lowes to yell "I don't want to shop here?[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to shit on medellin, it's just that the main allure for me was being able to bang young hot chicks for less than $50 and even cheaper but now the girls who are hot at a minimum are charging higher than a $100? And the cost of the airbnbs and other things seems to have exploded. Combine this with the crime reports and the stigma against gringos I just am swayed off by it, rather do Mexico or Thailand where the prices are still okay for what you get.
[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2780734]Hi all, this is a pretty stupid post for some, but I really really have the itch to try BBFS. Never done it before, and I am getting into my 40's soon. So, was really hoping to get some BB action once or twice atleast during this upcoming trip to Medellin. Need your advice.
I realize that there is a risk factor that is not zero for sure. But, I am trying to minimize HIV risk as much as possible. So, was hoping to see only selectively someone who is having a family, has kids, is not a 'professional' who is visiting strip clubs etc. I. e. Someone who is homely person and not going out for sex every other day with strangers. I think I have found a few FB girls like that profile. I am planning to carry the oraquick hiv test kit with me and have the girl do a quick saliva test before the act.
Any ideas on what the risk factor could be in the above for contracting hiv? Sorry I know I am being too paranoid / asking a stupid question, but hopefully you understand from the pov of someone who has never had BBFS before.[/QUOTE]Look into FC-2 (or FC2) internal (female) condoms. All the sensation. None of the risk.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2781338]Incoherently written first timer recap by a hobbyist seasoned around the globe.
I try to RTFF but also Colombia threads bloated with users off topic flame war each other really threw a wrench in my conquest.
A week before my flight I did the ISG strat to send friend requests on FB and out of 80 requests, 2 confirmed me day before flight. That's when I knew this might get a little bumpy.
Ultimately my past hobby xp of parachute into a locale, check into hotel, and meet girl an hour later kind of ruined me. That approach simply doesn't exist in Medellin.
Medellin is not a quick strike setting. It requires time, commitment, other re $ources to a point to indulge you have to plan on Medellin being your only hobby destination and have no time to hobby outside of Colombia.
The ISGers speaking highly of Medellin didn't bud overnight. Their black book took months or years or expat abroad status to have connections they're enjoying. If you're one of those congrats. Keep doing what you're doing and I salute and envy you.
However if you're a casual once every 3-5 years type visitor, Medellin might not bear the results you were hoping to indulge. There are options, but they're geared more towards locals who are too drunk to care if the girl doesn't match girl in pics. And overpriced escorts too.
Know Spanish. Have some game. And most importantly plan on visiting 3-4 times / year. Even your first visit will require additional planning of some way some how getting contacts weeks before your arrival to make sure your starting point goes smoothly, which starts to sound like a Catch 22. If this is for you, then by all means.
I don't know how else to explain it.[/QUOTE]It was a different scene back in the late 2000's: Pre-FaceBook or WhatsApp, no smart phones, etc.
[QUOTE=DigLicker;2782204]I didn't mean to shit on medellin, it's just that the main allure for me was being able to bang young hot chicks for less than $50 and even cheaper but now the girls who are hot at a minimum are charging higher than a $100? And the cost of the airbnbs and other things seems to have exploded. Combine this with the crime reports and the stigma against gringos I just am swayed off by it, rather do Mexico or Thailand where the prices are still okay for what you get.[/QUOTE]Ridiculous. Hot girls can easily be gotten for (well) under the equivalent of $100 USD. I'm pickier than the vast majority of mongers and I have never paid over 250 mil pesos (for short-time). Of course some girls may "ask" for that much, but I don't care about what they ask. I tell them what I'll pay and most accept. If they don't, I move on to the next.
If you actually meet the girl in person and chat with her a bit, that makes a ton of difference. A smile and a few witty comments can go a long way. A lot better than contacting them on FB or Seeking and asking "Hi, how much do you charge for a stupid Gringo?" Though I will grant you the online options can be convenient.
As far as crime / danger, I'll grant you Spain is safer (I mentioned Germany in an earlier post which is safe and the FKKs are awesome). But if you follow a few basic rules, you'll likely be safe in Colombia.
1. Do not leave your drink out of your sight, whether it's booze or Diet Coke.
2. Stay in a place with a reception that registers guests and calls you upon your guest leaving.
3. Don't play the big shot and throw money around. No need to advertise how rich you are.
4. Don't use Tinder.
Also as far as Colombia, Medellin is hardly the only place. Plenty of other cities that haven't been overrun by Gringos.