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Ok, so I'm in an officetel in Gangnam. And every night when I go home late there are girls sitting outside on the steps or around it. Not just any girls. The kind who dress trashy and hold designer handbags. There's also the occasional older man who works out entirely too much and is just hanging around.

This is crazy. What do I do? I speak no Korean.

[QUOTE=Bradley1;1165514]1. Dabang. BBFS available and gets the edge over RLD due to better attitude (in my opinion).[/QUOTE]I really want to try out Dabangs. Can you writeup a quick guide how to? Also, I speak no Korean. Think I could get a friend to order me one and then be like,"surprise!"?

Yarichin, I don't mean to be blunt, but there's a point where you'll have to stop asking and start trying. If you want to try getting a Korean friend to order at a dabang and then substitute with you, then go ahead and try it. I guess the worse that can happen is that the girl will walk out. The more time you worry about finding a guarantee score, the less time you have left in Korea (didn't you say you're here for only a month?).

I guess I'm the one to talk about trying, because I just asked about RECENT experiences at the RLD's in Miari and Cheongnyangni, having never been to either place. But regardless of if there are any replies here, I intend on going to Miari soon. I know how to get there, and I know the basic lay of the land, thanks to the previous posts on this thread. We'll see how it goes.

Also, if your lack of speaking Korean is such a problem, then can't you learn some? I'm actually taking a Korean language class in Seoul, and while I'm saw the girl@Cheonho on Sunday night, I was able to practice speaking Korean to her. It was fun.

[QUOTE=Yarichin; 1166115]Ok, so I'm in an officetel in Gangnam. And every night when I go home late there are girls sitting outside on the steps or around it. Not just any girls. The kind who dress trashy and hold designer handbags. There's also the occasional older man who works out entirely too much and is just hanging around.

This is crazy. What do I do? I speak no Korean. [/QUOTE]Say "Yah!" or "Kori Gah!" loudly.

@Jojo407: LOL!

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Well, I went to Miari last night, and it was a learning experience. First, there were a lot of pushy ajumma's. I got tired of saying "I'll look around more and come back" in Korean. I hardly saw any ajummas at Cheonho.

I ended up going to the first place I passed, which was the first one on the left when you go into the left entrance. The ajumma there thought for some reason that I was Japanese. That was a first. Unfortunately, upstairs in that place reeked of smoke and pot. Mistake number one. I was not able to choose the girl, and I was given the oldest of the three who were there, probably early 30s, her body a 6 or 7. Mistake number two. Said girl was super rushed, even though I chose short time. Mistake number three. I had opportunities to walk out, but I simply didn't. I didn't want to deal with a pissed off girl and / or an ajumma. The girl was somewhat tight, so I was able to get off.

Here's my question. If you go to a house in a RLD with multiple girls, can you pick the girl or not? Because so far, I haven't picked the girl when I first enter such a house. At a house with multiple [email]girls@Cheonho[/email], one of the girls would stand up and lead me upstairs. I've been rather passive about all of this; should I have been more assertive, look at the selection, and March up to the one I want?

I haven't heard much about this place outside of the protests, so I decided to check it out today. I got there a little early and only saw ONE woman out there. On top of that, she didn't want to deal with a foreigner like me. Too bad because she was VERY busty. I got some dinner and came back a little later when it was darker, and it was busier. Is it me or are the plastic surgery noses simply disgusting on Korean women? It was so obvious. I was turned off to some of the A-row girls. Anyway, I wandered around the corner to the B-team.

I saw a decent looking older woman sitting down in front of a small hallway and she greeted me with a smile. Like I said in previous posts, if a woman's first reaction doesn't have that "Oh no, not a foreigner" look on her face, I'm ok. She asked me in Korean how much I had, so I replied with a simple,"How much is it?". She says 50K. I'm thinking this is getting better. We went to her room.

When I get there, she has me undress and leaves for a sec. She came back in and as she took off her clothes, she said for an extra 20K, she'd go down on me. She seemed nice enough, so I said sure. She started to put the condom on, and I asked her if we could go without it. She said no, so I asked for my 20 back. She asked if I had any STD (in Korean) to which I answer no. She reluctantly went down on me, but it was the worst. She went no further than the tip and just looked like wasn't having a good time. I knew this was going nowhere so I just asked her to get this over with.

She got on her back and motioned me to enter her. I guess she thought I wanted to do bareback sex! NO no no. I threw the condom on and did missionary. This is where it went from bad to TERRIBLE. As I came-or rather near the end of me cumming-she pulled back and left me finishing in the condom. WITHOUT a pussy around it. It was as if she was afraid of me coming IN her! That's what the condom is FOR. Duh! I was PISSED off. I didn't have enough Korean in me to convey my rage, but I told her in Korean that next time I'm picking another girl. I wouldn't come back.

This was such a bad experience that I not only want to ever go back to Youngdengpo, but I'm pretty salty about the P4P experience totally, at the moment. Waiting for a week or two for this kind of treat only for it to go terribly wrong is not something that leaves a good taste in one's mouth. I'm sure that'll change in a couple of weeks though.

In short, I don't know about your experiences, Gentlemen, but I'd steer clear of Youngdengpo. Miari is still the best RLD. I will go the extra distance there for the better service and honestly better looking ladies.

[QUOTE=Eum Yang;1167387]Here's my question. If you go to a house in a RLD with multiple girls, can you pick the girl or not? Because so far, I haven't picked the girl when I first enter such a house. At a house with multiple [email]girls@Cheonho[/email], one of the girls would stand up and lead me upstairs. I've been rather passive about all of this; should I have been more assertive, look at the selection, and March up to the one I want?[/QUOTE]Yeah, you should definitely have been more assertive. However, sometimes you have to gauge the mood. I'd rather have a decent looking girl that WANTS to be with me vs. A HOT chick who I choose who just obliges because she's getting paid.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Bradley1; 1165514]Okay, I tried a couple of B-row girls at the RLD and. Ugh, I can see the foreigners have it bad. If they made up for their lack of looks in service, I could understand but. One girl was litterly having seizures while blowing me and having sex, I think she thought it was sexy or something. I didn't even manage to pop, but she insisted I keep trying and she kept jerking me and making grunting noises. I seriously think she thought she was being sexy. One girl just stopped when I went limp, thinking I came. Which I didn't.

Well, here are my current thoughts now. [/quote]This post is quite comprehensive, and I appreciate the time you took in writing it up. Just a couple of comments.

[quote][b]Where to go for Attitude[/b]

4. RLD. They'll act all interested, but once you're inside it's wham-bam. [/quote]I only pay for "short time" visits. At Miari, the girl was [B]way[/B] Rushed. At Cheonho, I actually have't felt rushed, despite paying for "short time."

[quote][b]Where to go for Cost[/b]

1. RLD. 70, 000 won for 15 minutes. Cheapest. [/quote]I thought "short time" was 20 minutes. Anyway, the price can vary. When I went to Miari Friday night, it was 80, 000 for 20 minutes.

[quote][b]Where to go for Service[/b]

3. Anma. CFS but a lot of anal rimming. [/quote]I've been to two anmas. I'm not a fan of AR, so at the 2nd anma, I actually told the girl (in my broken Korean) [B]not[/B] To do AR, and she agreed. (I also asked her if we could do BBFS, but she said no. Can't have everything, I suppose.)

[QUOTE=Dissolved Boy; 1167535]Yeah, you should definitely have been more assertive. However, sometimes you have to gauge the mood. I'd rather have a decent looking girl that WANTS to be with me vs. A HOT chick who I choose who just obliges because she's getting paid.

Good luck! [/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. And kudos to you for being a foreigner and speaking some Korean. I just don't know how anyone can learn the language. And I'm a gyopo! .

Does anyone know of any places that do BBBJ with CIM?

I've been to Belle once. It was great, but no finish in the girl's mouth.

[QUOTE=Looking Inrok; 1169229]Does anyone know of any places that do BBBJ with CIM?

I've been to Belle once. It was great, but no finish in the girl's mouth.[/QUOTE]Most of Hooker Hill in Itaewon, negotiate before hand about what you want and price. Establishments that do this for foreigners, nope.

In nearly twenty years, I've never been to an anma or room salon that accepted foreigners where BBJCIM was not readily available; the problem with domestic-oriented establishments is getting in the door; as we all know those that accept round-eyes are few and far between.

As for the 'ville, BBBJCIM has been and remains a standard feature of the repertoire unless, I suppose, you are a nasty piece of work and / or looking for a deep discount off a girl's regular pricing, in which case you understandably are going to get a lower level of service, if any at all. The only time in my experience when a girl expressed any hesitation she was a very young newbie on her first night and when she watched her equally young and inexperienced friend step up. Or should that be "kneel down" . And take a combo CIM / facial she was quick to demand an encore for herself. Bottom line is that you may want to confirm it's on the menu before parting with your dosh, but it's never a priced extra; if a girl asks extra she's either trying to see what she can get over with or she's not much interested in you as a customer, and it's best to move on.

[QUOTE=Jojo407;1169277]Most of Hooker Hill in Itaewon, negotiate before hand about what you want and price. Establishments that do this for foreigners, nope.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Looking Inrok; 1169229]Does anyone know of any places that do BBBJ with CIM?

I've been to Belle once. It was great, but no finish in the girl's mouth. [/QUOTE]

Anyone have any recent information on Hotel Capital. Went there a long time ago (3 Years) and service was good. RTFF and found nothing new. Will be heading up their in a month or two, would like to get a recon report from someone if possible before I make a visit.

Last night in Korea, went to Itaewan for some good times. Spent most of the night drinking at Debut (very cool "regular" bar with some friendly ladies) , intermittently scoping out some select spots: I was looking for Mi-hae at ING based on intel from a fellow hobbyist, but I never saw anything going on there. Also was keeping an eye on Texas based on an awesome experience I had with Nara my last time in town, but ever didn't see anyone there either. A few hours and many beers later, went looking for Cherry at Happy Days based on some glowing reviews of her oral skills throughout ISG. Turned out great. She said $100 for BJ, and then I asked about AR, she said $300. Negotiated to $200 (long time) with promise of $50 tip if she was good. She took me back to her apt and washed me up nicely, and we got to it. Now, I am a connoisseur of AR and I typically request it from an SP, but Cherry's performance was like nothing I had experienced before (it was just amazing the way she went at it with reckless abandon). I had high expections of her BJ skills based on other reviews. I would say these were a bit overrated (IMO she was over-aggresive and couldn't go very deep. She dramatically improved when I asked her to slow down, but IMO her BJ skills don't compare to Nara@Texas). Although Cherry may not be the hottest girl on the hill (real thick, even by American standards, but with some huge tits and an attractive face) , the overall experience was truly top notch, so much so that I tipped $100 instead of the $50 I had promised. Afterwards, she asked me about how I knew of her, and I told her about ISG. She was pretty alarmed at first but calmed when I told her there were no pictures. I'm surprised that SP's wouldn't know about these forums (also had similar discussion from Nara before). Shouldn't these girls know about their profession and hobbyist tools? I generally try to spread awareness so girls consider the importance of delivering good service (benefits us all right?). Anyways, experience was great and I will definitely seek out Cherry again next time I'm in town.

[QUOTE=I Miss Millenium;1170264]Last night in Korea, went to Itaewan for some good times. Spent most of the night drinking at Debut (very cool "regular" bar with some friendly ladies) , intermittently scoping out some select spots: I was looking for Mi-hae at ING based on intel from a fellow hobbyist, but I never saw anything going on there. Also was keeping an eye on Texas based on an awesome experience I had with Nara my last time in town, but ever didn't see anyone there either. A few hours and many beers later, went looking for Cherry at Happy Days based on some glowing reviews of her oral skills throughout ISG. Turned out great. She said $100 for BJ, and then I asked about AR, she said $300. Negotiated to $200 (long time) with promise of $50 tip if she was good. She took me back to her apt and washed me up nicely, and we got to it. Now, I am a connoisseur of AR and I typically request it from an SP, but Cherry's performance was like nothing I had experienced before (it was just amazing the way she went at it with reckless abandon). I had high expections of her BJ skills based on other reviews. I would say these were a bit overrated (IMO she was over-aggresive and couldn't go very deep. She dramatically improved when I asked her to slow down, but IMO her BJ skills don't compare to Nara@Texas). Although Cherry may not be the hottest girl on the hill (real thick, even by American standards, but with some huge tits and an attractive face) , the overall experience was truly top notch, so much so that I tipped $100 instead of the $50 I had promised. Afterwards, she asked me about how I knew of her, and I told her about ISG. She was pretty alarmed at first but calmed when I told her there were no pictures. I'm surprised that SP's wouldn't know about these forums (also had similar discussion from Nara before). Shouldn't these girls know about their profession and hobbyist tools? I generally try to spread awareness so girls consider the importance of delivering good service (benefits us all right?). Anyways, experience was great and I will definitely seek out Cherry again next time I'm in town.[/QUOTE]The first rule of ISG is. Don't tell providers about ISG. I'm happy you had a good time, but don't tell providers about this thing we got here. And I'm surprised she did AR. Every provider is a little different with their customers. For instance, I got quoted for a BJ cheaper and I was told no AR when I saw her. AR, next time. Next time.