What is a reasonable amount? In the eye of the beholder
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2782404]What makes 200,000 - 300,000 pesos a reasonable amount?[/QUOTE]It seems to be the number that many FB girls will accept but it does not mean that girls will not accept less. Personally, it is a number that I am comfortable with and don't mind spending if you are a young attractive girl and will give me GFE for at least an hour and a half to two hours. I don't like a lot of back and forth in negotiations and for me personally, 150 mil for FB girls got a lot more pushback than 200 mil.
You can say, well, that is much higher than the 40 mil streetwalker in El Centro but it is also less than the girls in the higher priced nightclubs. Pay what you are willing to pay and don't worry about what the other guy is paying. That is my motto.
Report part I: p4 p Casas and strip clubs
I just got back from 8 days in Medellin and want to share my experiences with dating, semipros, casas and strip clubs. It helps me put my thoughts down as I process things and hopefully can be helpful to all of you who want current intel. I'm going to start off with the more straight-up P4 P casas, strip clubs, and photoprepagos girl as that's relatively easy to chronicle.
I visited a number of Centro casas with another member who I've known for a while including Zandaly, Sexy Amigas, Dulce Compania, New Life and Aiffe. I also went to Ellas Erotic in Luareles and visited Cristal a PSE photoprepagos provider I'd seen before.
In terms of Centro casas, Zandaly was by far my favorite. The girls there were thinner and more to my taste and there are a couple that have nice faces too. I tried a couple providers a tall dark Venezualan called Charlotte and a whiter girl called Andrea. Both of them gave good service with uncovered CIM etc for extra. Zandaly's was also the cheapest spot covering 55 k for half an hour 50 k bbj and 20 k CIM. Both girls I saw were borderline GFE with open-mouth kissing and caressing. Charlotte was able to deepthroat me and let me face fuck her a bit. My friend and I went three times and we ended up getting to know and talking to the manager a bit as we both speak Spanish. They have a VIP room you can take girls into to talk to them which is free of cost. It also has natural light so you can see facial or body flaws better. The rooms are standard but there is a nicer one on the main floor. My buddy had a good connection with one of the girls and ended up paying her 400 k to go to La Piscina swingers club with him another night.
I visited Sexy Amigas, Dulce Compania, New Life, and AIffe each once and was less impressed. New Life has a lot of girls and a couple ok looking ones but they were worse than Zandaly's talent in my opinion so I just paid the 3 k viewer fee and left. Dulce Compania looked like it had nice facilities and was full of Colombians. But the girls were all thick to downright fat so I left. Most of the girls were heavier at Dulce Compania too (there were only four the time we visited). Finally, Aiffe is downright scary. It looked like at least two of the girls were almost crying when they did the presentation and the manager looked like a bona fide pimp. Those are not things that enhance a casa experience, for me at least. The other casas also charge more than Zandaly (60 k to 80 k if my memory serves).
In terms of strip clubs, I went to the Hilton Grill, which is a local spot my friend was a big fan of. He had some luck with a dancer there that we hung out with. I'm not a big fan of the strip club model in Medellin or generally (though I've had some fun at Mexican strip clubs), but I decided to give it a shot with my friend and spent a night there. We ordered a bottle of Ron Caldas and a couple of drinks for his girl he already knew and a good-looking, slim white paisa from Bello for me and spent a couple of hours talking and listening to the music. The culture here seems to be that they hang out and talk but don't sit on your lap or do crazy things as much as my experience in Mexico. Drinks were pretty reasonable (7 k for beers for girls) and the bottle we split was 100 k. I didn't have much of a connection with the girl, which normally would cause me to send her off, but my buddy told me that it had taken him a while to win over his amiga so I kept her around. So I figured what the hell, its pretty cheap why not see where things go. After a couple hours hanging out, I took my girl to the back for 80 k and gave her 20 k more for BBBJ. She gave me a selfish hot girl sort of performance where we fucked a bunch in the positions she wanted. She was touching herself while we fucked and seemed to be enjoying herself but was less attentive to me. Did some BBBJ but not a load. I have issues cumming sometimes, especially if I feel things are off so I didn't cum. She did offer uncovered sex but I declined (not going to do that with a cheap stripper). Anyway, she seemed pissed at the end of the night that I hadn't cum. It probably punctured her image of herself as hot shit. Anyway, all this reinforced my poor impression of strip clubs even though I know some of you are into them. I've been to three now in Medellin (Conejitas and Barra Executiva) and they are not for me. The normal fee to take a girl to the back at Hilton Grill is 70 k by the way but my girl was apparently the top earner in the club so she charged a little more. The rooms are pretty low-end.
I also tried a higher end casa Ellas Erotic in Luareles. They have a couple of locations one of which is near the church of the Americas and is 5 minutes from where I was staying in Santa Monica. It's definitely a bit more upscale than the Centro spots but I'd also recommend it, rough edges and implementation aside. They have a website [URL]https://ellaserotic.com/[/URL] which lists the girls in their two locations and their extras. They cover 80 k half hour and 140 k for the hour. You send a WhatsApp and make an appointment with the chica you want to see. I found the whole website and system to be clunky and confusing, especially with the two locations. The girl's names aren't listed on the main page (you have to click on photos). I asked who was available the day I went and it was hard to quickly settle on a choice given the two locations and lack of names on the landing page. Because of these issues, I ended up booking a girl at the wrong location. Luckily they were willing to give me a lineup when I arrived at the Americas location. The facilities are definitely more upscale and the girls were generally a bit hotter as well. I ended up going for an hour with Zoe. She is a cute morena clara with a nice tight body and is studying business. I had a pleasant hour with her and we had sex for most of the hour. We hit it off well and seemed to have a good connection as I made her laugh repeatedly. I asked her to show me the craziest positions she knew and we invented a few together as well. She has anal and BBBJ as extras. She wouldn't do anal with me due to my size / thickness but she said she does it with most guys. Definitely a pro but in a good way. She'd punch my arm when I teased her and made her laugh and accuse me of making her look unprofessional / abandon her image and decor.
Finally, I mentioned Cristal from Photoprepagos before. I still highly recommend her as she's the most PSE pro I've been with in Medellin. She charged me her grandfathered rate of 200 k for a PSE hour, though apparently, prices are going up. Did anal with her and you can face fuck her like in a porno (with the sound and all). She does CIM and Cum on her face and likes you to smack her in the face with your dick. She also talks really dirty to you if you ask. She's no longer the freakiest girl I met in Medellin (more to come in the second part), but is close. I tried to invite her to La Piscina (the biggest swinger club in town) and she was very enthusiastic when I saw her in person. She even said she'd love to come with a friend of mine who'd gone with me before and she'd eat her out. But when it actually came time to take details and set it up she seemed to chicken out. I think she's most comfortable in her work apartment vs. Outside of her apartment in Laureles. She told me a bit more about her other business and her life outside escorting this time, which was interesting. I could probably easily develop a borderline friendship, as far as clients go, with her if I invested the time.
Overall, the only bad experience I had was at the Hilton grill with the stripper. Everything else was great. I do recommend talking with a chica you are interested in a bit before pulling the trigger (especially if you speak Spanish) as that gives you a hint of how things will go down. It's usually worth bailing if you don't feel there is much of a connection between you.