[QUOTE=Cruiser D]On the other hand don't be surprised if she objects going to McD to eat.[/QUOTE]Not when there's a perfectly good TGIF near Bessarabska.
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[QUOTE=Cruiser D]On the other hand don't be surprised if she objects going to McD to eat.[/QUOTE]Not when there's a perfectly good TGIF near Bessarabska.
[QUOTE=Explorer69]I absolutely agree regarding the professional daters: keep away. And with a certain experience you can recognize them - they are usually demanding from the first minute.[/QUOTE]
My landlady inadvertantly set me up with one of these in Yaroslavl. She showed up drunk at my place at 2AM on 2 January, insisting on going out. No place was open, and she got a cab (not inquiring as to whether or not I have a ca)r, which, of course, suggested the most expensive place in town. I basically ran away from the cab, leaving her bewildered. I consider the 200 rubles that I paid the cab driver a Noviy God present to my landlady.
At the moment, I'm in Lvov. Accomodations here are amazingly reasonable. Renting a flat costs 250g, and I'm paying 150g for Soviet hotel accomodations in the center (Hotel Lvov) - I have my own bathroom, although I have to turn the hot water on 30 minutes in advance. I haven't looked for p4p options although the city itself is beautiful. Truskavec, a spa-town in the Oblast, has a nice little strip club in 'Millenium', a multifunctional nightclub. The strippers have a 'mammochka', and you may take the strippers home for an hour for 500g (as of Oct 2009). I've found this to be, by far, the most comfortable set-up for *****mongering. You pay 70g to 'start the show' if you're the only one there, then the girls get topless and you tip them 20g each. The girls were all in the 6-8 quality range.
I stayed in Higina Spa ([url]www.higinaspa.com.ua[/url]), which is very-un-Soviet in terms of ammenities - as in, you don't have to pay extra to use the pool, steam-room, and sauna.
Hello,
Can someone be kind enough to inform us about the situation in River Palace after the recent police raid?
Is the place still a p4p scene?
(The last information posted about RP in this forum was on Dec. 24, 2009)
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Fijiman, you made a big mistake in posting the girl's mamba url. Some twit from ISG will send her a message. 1) hitting on her 2) telling her everything you wrote about her.
Buddha Bar isn't the new RP.
Ten years ago a girl would have fucked your brains out for a week if you bought her a $20 dinner and/or spoke to her in English in Kyiv. You got scammed by a couple of professional daters, I know a lot of girls like this in Kyiv, they do it for fun. But they didn't ask for $100 for the taxi, a mobile phone or other gift so I guess it isn't that bad. Call it a learning experience so you can see the signs next time and cut your loses.
IL, can you take me to Buddha Bar and then Decedence? I promise to keep it under $135. :)
To all - I've started using this website as an alternative to Mamba/Flirt I get $40 worth of free translations with VIP my membership and I can use the translation services on Mamba/Flirt too.
[url]http://www.russian-dating-site.net/[/url]
Just thought I'd give you guys a little help. I'm booked up solid for my upcoming trip. :)[/QUOTE]
Please share your results when you can... I'm always interested in how effective sites are. For me LL has paid off on first try. Since though I had my own economic crisis in a sense so I haven't been "chasing" anybody to avoid any expectations of visiting.
[QUOTE=Blaked]
At the moment, I'm in Lvov. Accomodations here are amazingly reasonable. Renting a flat costs 250g, and I'm paying 150g for Soviet hotel accomodations in the center (Hotel Lvov) - I have my own bathroom, although I have to turn the hot water on 30 minutes in advance. I haven't looked for p4p options although the city itself is beautiful. [/QUOTE]
Hi, please give info about Lvov regarding p4p, in case you figure out.
Usually I am going to Nikolaev thru Kiev, but because of cheap flights from Germany to Lvov, too, I am interested to make a stopover there.
Is hotel Lvov girl-friendly ?
[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]Hi, please give info about Lvov regarding p4p, in case you figure out.
Usually I am going to Nikolaev thru Kiev, but because of cheap flights from Germany to Lvov, too, I am interested to make a stopover there.
Is hotel Lvov girl-friendly ?[/QUOTE]Hotel Lviv is a very bad hotel. Normally not made for tourists. If you are just looking for a place to sleep: Stay there. If you like nice places: Don't try this hotel. And with apartments it's the same. 250 Gr....? No problem. But no chance to get an apartment that is nice. Somebody posting links to an apartment site in Kiev a few days ago. Don't expect standard like this. There are maximum 10 short term rent apartments in Lviv with that kind of standard. Price starts from 450 Gr. - But don't expect big chance to rent them in the summer.
And about prostitutes in Lviv: Officials try to close all model-apartments and internetsites with pros from Lviv. One girl from "girls" agency told me they move to a new apartment every second week. Many of the pros don't understand english language. If you call those girls or agencies they finish call because you don't speak russian/ukrainian. At this moment I only know two sites with professional girls: [url]http://www.kyrtizanka.org[/url] and dosug.cz ...
[QUOTE=Fijiman]IT, there are a lot of posters here who have recommended BB as the new RP. I took their advice, and I wish you had spoken up sooner. Perhaps you could suggest one or two of these equivalent restaurants in the centre?
Also, it appears then that you have never, ever spent $135 on a girl in Russia/Ukraine and gotten no action? Not once?
I applaud your success![/QUOTE]
Some high levels restaurant in the central area... I know lots, but I do not remember the names (Ukranian) not west name, so a typical normal restaurant...just that... I know where they are, one is surely Shato. ([url]http://kiev.shato.com.ua/[/url]) It's like RP (not for the girls, but you all Italian Soccer! Try the wild forest mushrooms...
By the way I spent much more than 135 USD for a girl, but I was drilling her holes for the whole day too :D
One very good and classy restaurant is Pervak [url]www.pervak.kiev.ua[/url] (in English too, only a part of the menu) with wonderful food and specialities (local, No American, No West European food in general, huge service and fascinating place with Jewish minds from 1900-1910) but no kosher food... UA traditional, soups, pickled, beefs stroganoff, fish etc. etc tec..
On Rogodieninskaya #2 at the corner, 100 meters from Bessarabski Rinok...
A sample of menu? No Hamburgers, No Spaghetti ;)
In laid pork fat (wonderful lard like italian inlaid one) 18.00 portion
Soup 30.00
Tenderlonin Steak 167.00 with vegetables
Half liter Warsteiner (one of the best german beers with Stauder and a couple of others) 28.00
Butter, cake, coffee, etc etc etc... it's 350... and you get out that you have eaten too much to make sex...
Went several times with a lot of girls, but semnding here 125 USD (1000 grivnas) if you do not drink as a Russian Sailor seems really impossible... I usually go for 600-800 grivna for two..
I'm Italian, i love food (specially mine...) but wherever I go I eat almost 100% local... By the way I hate fusion kitchen... some of the best restaurants in Kiev are the small eateries in Podol... May be not the right places to impress a professional dater... but... you find Georgians, Armenians, Jewish, Kiev kitchen etc etc... and often wonderful food.
IT
PS I'm not in the pro dating system, I hate this things... as I hate lap dance.
[QUOTE=Irish Lad]Anywhere but Decedence and BB! My gigs are Avalon and Shooters. Bring your sunglasses and you're barred!
I agree, mistake to post links to Mamba here. She'll have several messages by now, some of which will be a copy and paste of your post from here.
Happened IT and myself a few years back.[/QUOTE]
Oh I rememeber I was putting in order both pages!!! Your and Mine... miss U. was very angry... and miss L. tooo for mine late report (you imagine who, red, very slim and wonderful BBBJ and sex... you drilled her too).
That is the reason I post only links of girls I did not drill or links of pros, some are happy with that (free ads... like sextalk un Russia)... MT (Mystery Tramp) was a surprise... she was not happy with the ads, who made her probably the most drilled girl in Kiev... She could have 100.000 of USD but she is too stupid and/or always too drunk!
IT
[QUOTE=It Travel]
Half liter Warsteiner (one of the best german beers with Stauder and a couple of others) 28.00
[/QUOTE]
Hey, that is an insult to "Bitburger, Jever, Veltins ..."
Warsteiner is considered "Womens Beer" :-)
[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]Hey, that is an insult to "Bitburger, Jever, Veltins ..."
Warsteiner is considered "Womens Beer" :-)[/QUOTE]
Yes I understand but I hate Jever.... I like Konig Pilsner, Warsteiner, Stauder etc...
But, dear friend, we are here for sex, and trying to explain our friend that nearly 100 € for dating a girl (not for drilling her holes) is a shame!!!
I think you agree destpite our different tastes in beers.
For going on joking ;) my bottled favourites are: Duvel and Orval... (Belgian)
But in UA I usually drink Chenigov beer, in Russia Baltika 3, how sall I say... local products, cheaper, not so bad quality etc etc... and mostly I fuck local girls!!! These not for some local reason, but simply because FSU teens are the best!
:D :D :D
IT
[QUOTE=Blaked]At the moment, I'm in Lvov. Accomodations here are amazingly reasonable. Renting a flat costs 250g, and I'm paying 150g for Soviet hotel accomodations in the center (Hotel Lvov) - I have my own bathroom, although I have to turn the hot water on 30 minutes in advance. [/QUOTE]Hotel Lvov, is on wikipedia: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Львов_(гостиница,_Львов)
[QUOTE=It Travel]Some high levels restaurant in the central area... I know lots, but I do not remember the names (Ukranian) not west name, so a typical normal restaurant...just that... I know where they are, one is surely Shato. ([url]http://kiev.shato.com.ua/[/url]) It's like RP (not for the girls, but you all Italian Soccer! Try the wild forest mushrooms...
By the way I spent much more than 135 USD for a girl, but I was drilling her holes for the whole day too :D
One very good and classy restaurant is Pervak [url]www.pervak.kiev.ua[/url] (in English too, only a part of the menu) with wonderful food and specialities (local, No American, No West European food in general, huge service and fascinating place with Jewish minds from 1900-1910) but no kosher food... UA traditional, soups, pickled, beefs stroganoff, fish etc. etc tec..
On Rogodieninskaya #2 at the corner, 100 meters from Bessarabski Rinok...
A sample of menu? No Hamburgers, No Spaghetti ;)
In laid pork fat (wonderful lard like italian inlaid one) 18.00 portion
Soup 30.00
Tenderlonin Steak 167.00 with vegetables
Half liter Warsteiner (one of the best german beers with Stauder and a couple of others) 28.00
Butter, cake, coffee, etc etc etc... it's 350... and you get out that you have eaten too much to make sex...
Went several times with a lot of girls, but semnding here 125 USD (1000 grivnas) if you do not drink as a Russian Sailor seems really impossible... I usually go for 600-800 grivna for two..
I'm Italian, i love food (specially mine...) but wherever I go I eat almost 100% local... By the way I hate fusion kitchen... some of the best restaurants in Kiev are the small eateries in Podol... May be not the right places to impress a professional dater... but... you find Georgians, Armenians, Jewish, Kiev kitchen etc etc... and often wonderful food.
IT
PS I'm not in the pro dating system, I hate this things... as I hate lap dance.[/QUOTE]
Hello all, RP in Kiev is for me clear and I know this place, but what is BB? is a new place? where? what they offer? location? prices? please more details
[QUOTE=Reiner Otto]Hey, that is an insult to "Bitburger, Jever, Veltins ..."
Warsteiner is considered "Womens Beer" :-)[/QUOTE]Ya soglasen...
Warsteiner tastes like dishwashing liquid.
Jever or Veltins is a man's beer... )[QUOTE=It Travel]Yes I understand but I hate Jever.... I like Konig Pilsner, Warsteiner, Stauder etc...
For going on joking ;) my bottled favourites are: Duvel and Orval... (Belgian)
But in UA I usually drink Chenigov beer, in Russia Baltika 3, how sall I say... local products, cheaper, not so bad quality etc etc... and mostly I fuck local girls!!! These not for some local reason, but simply because FSU teens are the best!
IT[/QUOTE]Chernigov is the best Ukrainian beer in my opinion.
And we agree on the girls, too.
The only beer I have in Ukraine is the stuff at Arena Bar and only when IL is buying. :D
When are you coming to Kyiv Dr S? I'll be there Thursday till Feb 10th.
Blaked, how much does a Western apartment cost in Lvov? I've always wanted to go. I've been everywhere in Ukraine except for Lvov and Odessa.
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]The only beer I have in Ukraine is the stuff at Arena Bar and only when IL is buying. :D
When are you coming to Kyiv Dr S? I'll be there Thursday till Feb 10th.
Blaked, how much does a Western apartment cost in Lvov? I've always wanted to go. I've been everywhere in Ukraine except for Lvov and Odessa.[/QUOTE]
The local classifieds paper is called something like 'vash magazin' - there you can find apartments for rent for 250g/day and up. You should be able get something euro-style and central for 400. If you arrive here, look me up.
I second IT with respect to Pervak - a very good restaurant indeed and the business lunch is extremely reasonable. Izumi is a good sushi place near Maidan and has free wifi, but you have to ask where the outlets are. Wifi in McDonalds is totally unreliable. )) My favorite UA beer is Bili Nich.