FKK Artemis - Berlin

I will be visiting the great Artemis soon and was wondering if anyone knows if this girl I was with last time is still there and which days she is usually there cause had a good time with her! The only problem is I don't remember her name but here's a description, hopefully it's enough:

She says she's Moldovan (said her parents moved from Romania to Moldova when she was small) so she's basically Romanian. About 23, has a nice slim tanned body, tallish and long black / brown hair. Natural boobs and some small tattoos, I think she said they were names of her family (one at the back of her neck, on wrist, I can't remember where else). Nice to chat with although her English is not that good. I noticed she also has some OCD tendencies sometimes like popping in-out of the room doorway a few times before gooing in, things like that! Oh yeah I remember her saying she's also studying I think medicine so she only does Artemis 2-3 days every couple of weeks.

If you remember her name and know if she's still working in Artemis that would be great news!

Thanks

Took the plunge last night, Saturday. Quiet night-less than normal. Went with the sure thing, super curvy and hot Bella, my connection to Castro, and had the usual very nice time. Then RB broke the rules he swears never to break (as he does every time he does this) , knowing it will lead to disaster. Norina (or something like that) kind of a mix of Bulgarian, Romanian and or Turkish, she would not say-big girl, light skin, very nice D naturals, blond curls, tats on the lower back-we had been flirting for weeks. She made it clear no kissing, but being in a kind of "Top Gear" mood, I agreed. I did ask "so everything else is on the menu, right?" and she said of course. Lots of touching and flirting in the hallway, so it was gentlemen, start your engines.

Once behind the door, she allowed 1 minute of DATY, then only CBJ (no discussion even when I reminded her what is standard) , with the skills and grace of a brontosaurus foraging for ferns and leaves. She did offer some encouragement "why don't you get hard, then we have sex". All one mood killer after another, which had the predictable effect. 20 min later, RB rubbed one out hiseff and she was 60 EUR richer. She asked if we would repeat as she had fun and next time, I could squirt on her as she rubbed herself. No doubt.

Of course some girls at the olde Bahnhoff are not interested in any sort of real contact, just lay, spray, and pay. RB does require more, and while I sort of knew this was coming, stupidly, I did not listen to my gut. Being with her was the closest you could come to not having sex while pretending this was sex. YMMV but never again.

Why didn't you cancel the session as soon as she started CBJ? What's Artemis' policy on that?

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1535579]Why didn't you cancel the session as soon as she started CBJ? What's Artemis' policy on that? HB[/QUOTE]Hi- well I probably could have complained but by then we were well into it (like 15 min) , it was 0100, I thought maybe it would still be ok, It is for sure a grey area. Policy wise I do think BBBJ is standard but girls surely have the right to decide - they just ought to say so up front, that's all. The issue never comes up so I was quite surprised when it happened.

If we had been in the room 2-5 minutes only, that would have been different. Plus, I hate making scenes. Perhaps I could have gotten out for 30 EUR or so but you know, it is just part of the game. Sometimes you're the windscreen, some times you're the bug.

You can't really ask a new girl to go right down some detailed list of do's and don'ts, wills and won'ts-just not practical and itself a mood killer as you know. You just can't always predict bad chemistry and even a girl by agreeing is signaling it will be ok. You just assume a certain standard, feel the vibe, and decide. Normally I am fairly confident things will be fine once I decide to go for it. As I said, my senses were flashing warning warning and still, I chose to go. My bad really. Shit happens. It was cliché night.

Just a small lesson in mongering - if you have doubts, don't, however attractive the packaging.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1535583]Plus, I hate making scenes.[/QUOTE]I agree.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1535583]Policy wise I do think BBBJ is standard but girls surely have the right to decide - they just ought to say so up front, that's all.[/QUOTE]Yes, and she didn't tell you up front. But I can understand that after 15min into the session you thought it wasn't worth the hassle.

HB

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1535576]She asked if we would repeat as she had fun and next time, I could squirt on her as she rubbed herself. No doubt.[/QUOTE]LOL. Sounds like she has lots to learn. I guess you're a repeatable punter. lol.

Mine is worse. My disaster was with a new girl at ACA, she said she would kiss, then in the room totally avoided it. She had the session outlined in her mind and went step by step to her liking, I wasn't in the script planning process. LOL. 40e loss. 1/3 less damage than a mistake at big Art.

Never had a girl not do in the room a service that was agreed prior. I can understand if I agreed kissing (wasn't specific if it should be DFK) , and she doesn't DFK, and just some lame lip to lip (which is still disappointing). First for me. Even if the are hookers, I've never been lied to before going in the room.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1535583]Hi- well I probably could have complained but by then we were well into it (like 15 min) , it was 0100, I thought maybe it would still be ok, It is for sure a grey area. Policy wise I do think BBBJ is standard but girls surely have the right to decide. They just ought to say so up front, that's all. The issue never comes up so I was quite surprised when it happened.

If we had been in the room 2-5 minutes only, that would have been different. Plus, I hate making scenes. Perhaps I could have gotten out for 30 EUR or so but you know, it is just part of the game. Sometimes you're the windscreen, some times you're the bug.

You can't really ask a new girl to go right down some detailed list of do's and don'ts, wills and won'ts-just not practical and itself a mood killer as you know. You just can't always predict bad chemistry and even a girl by agreeing is signaling it will be ok. You just assume a certain standard, feel the vibe, and decide. Normally I am fairly confident things will be fine once I decide to go for it. As I said, my senses were flashing warning warning and still, I chose to go. My bad really. Shit happens. It was cliché night.

Just a small lesson in mongering. If you have doubts, don't, however attractive the packaging.[/QUOTE]You don't have to make a big scene. I just March the girl up to the receptionist, tell the receptionist I will pay the girl, but the service was not acceptable. Then I pay her in front of the receptionist and leave it at that. If the club gives a damn, they will have a talk with the girl and she will know she is put on notice. It is a polite way of weeding out the non-performers. It appears that the girl does not even feel she has done anything wrong.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1535576]Once behind the door, she allowed 1 minute of DATY, then only CBJ (no discussion even when I reminded her what is standard) ,[/QUOTE]Did you remeber to install the usual sub skin chip for future identification?

Looks like we need to place a new order because we are kind of running low lately. Going back to the old method of putting a gps through the dorsal fin is not an option. LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino;1535726]Going back to the old method of putting a gps through the dorsal fin is not an option. LOL.Kimino[/QUOTE]Well Kimino-san, just remember to bring the harpoon with you next time (no not the one under your robe.). It wasn't really sharking, or even up-selling. More like down-selling as PL experienced.

Aki-B- you are probably right but in my universe, that would count as "a scene". I was just glad to be done with it vs revenge or scoring points.

Anyway the point is I knew this could easily go south and really have only myself to blame. It was, to put it mildly, not the first time in the old Bahnhoff. Finis

[QUOTE=Akibono;1535697]You don't have to make a big scene. I just March the girl up to the receptionist, tell the receptionist I will pay the girl, but the service was not acceptable. Then I pay her in front of the receptionist and leave it at that.[/QUOTE]I am trying to envision this: Do you put handcuffs on her first and then "March" her up to the receiption? Then do you pay her like Sonny throws the bills at the photographers early on in the Godfather Part 1? :)


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When I was at Mainhattan, a girl tried to Hustle me on promise of DFK in the room. She tried to charge me extra for kissing with tongue. Then I told her I want to call off the whole thing. Then she said she will DFK, and it killed my mood. I could not go ahead with a session even if she would DFK or not. I told her let's leave, and she said I must pay even If she didn't touch my dick with her mouth. I just walked out on her. She of course followed, and the receptionist took my side and didn't have to pay. Although, I wanted to teach her a lesson, it did kill her mood that night and didn't feel very good about that.

I was glad because her breath stank real bad.

Well the girls that intentionally try to scam you, they count on the fact that you don't want to make a scene. In a sense, it is like a game of bluff. Some clubs are more lenient than others though.

Was there a time in the interaction when "the change" occurred?

Or was she totally gormless and amoral so as to really not to ge it?

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1535576]Took the plunge last night, Saturday. Quiet night-less than normal. Went with the sure thing, super curvy and hot Bella, my connection to Castro, and had the usual very nice time. Then RB broke the rules he swears never to break (as he does every time he does this) , knowing it will lead to disaster. Norina (or something like that) kind of a mix of Bulgarian, Romanian and or Turkish, she would not say-big girl, light skin, very nice D naturals, blond curls, tats on the lower back-we had been flirting for weeks. She made it clear no kissing, but being in a kind of "Top Gear" mood, I agreed. I did ask "so everything else is on the menu, right?" and she said of course. Lots of touching and flirting in the hallway, so it was gentlemen, start your engines.

Once behind the door, she allowed 1 minute of DATY, then only CBJ (no discussion even when I reminded her what is standard) , with the skills and grace of a brontosaurus foraging for ferns and leaves. She did offer some encouragement "why don't you get hard, then we have sex". All one mood killer after another, which had the predictable effect. 20 min later, RB rubbed one out hiseff and she was 60 EUR richer. She asked if we would repeat as she had fun and next time, I could squirt on her as she rubbed herself. No doubt.

Of course some girls at the olde Bahnhoff are not interested in any sort of real contact, just lay, spray, and pay. RB does require more, and while I sort of knew this was coming, stupidly, I did not listen to my gut. Being with her was the closest you could come to not having sex while pretending this was sex. YMMV but never again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1536010]Was there a time in the interaction when "the change" occurred? Or was she totally gormless and amoral so as to really not to ge it?[/QUOTE]Brother Bearsk-once the door closed and some preliminary caressing started, I could just feel it all going awry. Normally my tongue lashings sort out most problems but no chance was really allowed. So 10 min in I knew we were heading south and then out came the condom with no discussion and basta la pasta. Once a session becomes dominated by constraints vs pleasure, you know it is toast.

I don't think it was out of mal intent. She just wasn't really comfortable with the whole thing-perplexing as there was so much flirting going on for weeks about it. I actually don't think she is comfortable in her own skin. At the end of the day, all unknowable and inexplicable-things are just the way they are, it happens, one will never really understand it, and best is to just move on. Money can't buy you love.

My intent here was just to alert others-mission accomplished.

Back in Berlin for the week, and had some spare time this afternoon so paid Artemis a visit.

Arrived at around 4pm. And it was probably the quietest I've seen it. Once changed I had a wander round, and there were a fair number of girls about considering how few guys, but nothing really grabbing my interest straight away so I got my kindle and went and sat downstairs for a read. Every now and then someone would wander past, but seeing me reading they left me alone. I had a sauna, and as it wad now approaching 6pm, I thought I'd pop upstairs to see who was about. It seemed suddenly like there were fewer girls about, and quite a few sharks, so I retreated to the smoke free zone downstairs again.

There then wandered into the downstairs bar. My ideal. Long dark hair, slim body and small breasts. I was even more interest when she didn't do the wander round when she just sat a the bar and ordered a drink. After a few minutes she caught my eye, and came over. She introduced herself as Fatima from Slovakia. We chatted a bit, and she agreed that she didn't like the smokey upstairs bar, which can get bad. She asked if I wanted to go upstairs, I asked her if she was ok with kissing, and she was so we headed up.

We then had a great half hour. Lots of kissing OWO on me, RO on her and then some great sex.

I happily paid up, wished her well and headed off.

A successful trip.