Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2787980]One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.

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Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.

Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?[/QUOTE]The organized gangs that do this pose as prostitutes or not. Whatever suits the situation. But when there are standing offers to working girls to scope their clients I would say that of the thousands of cases most involve working girls. That is where the opportunity is.

Working girls are contacted and told that if they can scope a customer and then call the number and let the gang in the door they will get a much larger payoff than just what they have been paid. Even if only a small percentage of working girls become part of this it is a huge risk factor for potential customers. And this is happening.

Some casa's have only staffed girls and some have staffed and independents that will rent space there. Some Casas are only space that independents rent with no management. If you have a certain girl that you would like to session with you it would be wise to make an appointment with the casa or girl beforehand. Hours would depend on the Casa and girls typical hours could be all over the place, part time, full time, independent.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2788229]What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Tasss;2788229]What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.[/QUOTE]Its usually around 9/10 am to 6/7 pm. Might be 5/6/7 days per week.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2788231]The organized gangs that do this pose as prostitutes or not. Whatever suits the situation. But when there are standing offers to working girls to scope their clients I would say that of the thousands of cases most involve working girls. That is where the opportunity is.[/QUOTE]Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.

I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.

Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.

Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2788304]Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.

I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.

Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.

Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.[/QUOTE]It was several years ago when I read somewhere on a Colombian site about the 50 to 100,000 scopolamine poisonings per year in Colombia. So certainly many, or most, would be Colombian. Every person I know of that has been scoped it was by working girls. But, being that all of those people are mongers that also is not surprising. We were also told by a police captain in Medellin that this is very common with working girls in Parque Lleras, for example. Someone else on this site also mentioned that girls had told him that they were given a standing offer, that if they would do the scoping then the gang would give them a piece of the profit, so basically they could scope someone if the opportunity arose, or perhaps if they were pissed at that client. They carried the drug, and all they needed to do was slip it in a drink, call these guys, leave the door open, and leave.

Anyway, I read your initial post to suggest that working girls are less likely to be involved in scoping. I don't think that is a safe assumption, as they are more likely to be in a position to drug clients than anyone else.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2788304]Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.

I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.

Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.

Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.[/QUOTE]Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5. The number of posts on this site only indicates that guys are more likely to post about Medellin on this website and not that it is the world's biggest sex tourism destination.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2788351]Every person I know of that has been scoped it was by working girls. But, being that all of those people are mongers that also is not surprising. We were also told by a police captain in Medellin that this is very common with working girls in Parque Lleras, for example.
Anyway, I read your initial post to suggest that working girls are less likely to be involved in scoping. I don't think that is a safe assumption, as they are more likely to be in a position to drug clients than anyone else.[/QUOTE]That makes sense to me. After all if you're a WG why settle for $60 from sex when you can get $6,000 from robbery? It's just interesting that not one of those victims to my knowledge has put their story on the internet. I would expect to seek in capital letters all over this forum and the rest of the internet: AVOID COLOMBIAN WOMEN EXCEPT IN A BROTHEL. You can assume, hopefully, that the brothel (or strip club, massage clinic or whatever they choose to call it) manager won't want to destroy his business with a drugged and robbed incident. But anywhere else, who knows? Are you going to stop consuming liquids during your entire visit?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2788374]That makes sense to me. After all if you're a WG why settle for $60 from sex when you can get $6,000 from robbery? It's just interesting that not one of those victims to my knowledge has put their story on the internet. I would expect to seek in capital letters all over this forum and the rest of the internet: AVOID COLOMBIAN WOMEN EXCEPT IN A BROTHEL. You can assume, hopefully, that the brothel (or strip club, massage clinic or whatever they choose to call it) manager won't want to destroy his business with a drugged and robbed incident. But anywhere else, who knows? Are you going to stop consuming liquids during your entire visit?[/QUOTE]Mongers are not ready to tell the world that they are mongers. So you won't find these stories on the internet very often. Guys I know that got scoped barely will admit it to their best friends let alone wife, family, kids back home, etc.

The casas, and clubs, generally would be safer. I know the bars tend to watch out for their customers as well. They will open drinks in front of you so you know it wasn't tampered with, and try to protect their clients in general.

So with consuming liquids. Open the bottle yourself then you know if it was properly sealed. Don't let anyone bring you an open drink. It is very hard to get scoped if you don't ingest it in a drink. Take your drink with you if you go to the bathroom. Or get the bartender to put it in a safe place for you until you get back.

And if you want to risk a date on Tinder or something make sure you get a picture of the ID and the woman and send them to a friend. Adds a bit of disincentive if a chica may be thinking of something harmful to you. See the chica in a place that takes pictures and verifies the cedula of anyone with you. These don't guarantee safety, but go a long ways.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2788355]Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5.[/QUOTE]You do not need to know where to go in Thailand. You simply show up and you are in the middle of everything.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2788401]Mongers are not ready to tell the world that they are mongers. So you won't find these stories on the internet very often. Guys I know that got scoped barely will admit it to their best friends let alone wife, family, kids back home, etc.[/QUOTE]On this forum I think no one would be embarrassed to say that they met a WG and got drugged and robbed. But no one has said it. The one person here who tells his story specifically says it was a non-pro. It's strange.

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About drinks, this fellow says that he went to a hotel room with a non-pro whom he had met on Tinder. He was given a sealed aluminum can of beer. He wiped the top of the can with his shirt then opened the beer and drank. He awoke three days later with $7,000 missing.

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Anyway, here is my personal plan. Land in Medellin. Take a taxi which I have reserved in advance through [URL]booking.com[/URL] to my airbnb in El Poblado. Stay there for a week with a girl who I have already met through [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. Probably go out to some clubs with her if she wants to. Give her a million pesos at the beginning of each day. That sounds fair to me for the company of a beautiful college aged girl. Take the taxi back to the airport and go home.

As soon as I arrive in my room but before anyone else shows up, I'll take some duct tape. Put my passport and $200 into an envelope. Tape that to the back of a picture or the back of the TV screen. If anything horrible happens, I will have money for food and I will be able to board my return flight.

Not sure if anyone brought tickets for Super Bowl party, but I just received email saying only quests now can attend, something to do with with fire department estipulations, their now not allowed to have more then 100 people at a time on property! Hmmmmm,

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2788355]Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5. The number of posts on this site only indicates that guys are more likely to post about Medellin on this website and not that it is the world's biggest sex tourism destination.[/QUOTE]Colombia is such a beautiful country. In the top 10 (or so?) in the world for stupid gringos to go on marriage tours. ([URL]https://loveme.com/tour/order/latin-tour-order.shtml[/URL]) yet answer me this. Why do girls (madams) refer their girlfriends to me when I am there? Is that not considered pimping?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2788470]Why do girls (madams) refer their girlfriends to me when I am there? Is that not considered pimping?[/QUOTE]Is it pimping for guys here to recommend chicks to each other?

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2788470]Colombia is such a beautiful country. In the top 10 (or so?) in the world for stupid gringos to go on marriage tours. ([URL]https://loveme.com/tour/order/latin-tour-order.shtml[/URL]) yet answer me this. Why do girls (madams) refer their girlfriends to me when I am there? Is that not considered pimping?[/QUOTE]You are a client and they want their girlfriends to make some money with you. I also suspect that they are getting a commission from girlfriends if they see you. When I turn down a girl or we can't come to an agreement, sometimes they will recommend a girl who will agree to my terms. I rarely see the referrals because I prefer to do my own research on a girl.