Medellin Reports

It will be interesting to see how long the barricading of ground zero will be in effect for since initiated. Almost a ghost town albeit a few scattered walkers inside the barricaded areas with everyone on the other side of the barricades and the glass covered walkway area is very crowded.

Kind of surreal walking inside of the barricaded area and not seeing walkers all over the place and the business's inside are getting hammered with hardly any foot traffic passing thru. And although getting access into the area thru the manned police entrances may entail being searched, you can enter the area thru the complex adjacent to the Metro without being searched. And business at the short time hotels like Premium Plaza has to be way down along with all the eateries having way less customers.

Oh well.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2789247]I must video chat with her before I arrive in Colombia.

How much would you offer? 800 k? 700 k?

I don't want to be cheap and annoy her however I also don't want to drastically overpay. It may even sound suspicious "For so much money, what does he want to do with me?[/QUOTE]It's really easy. But it does require you to actually use advice, instead of insisting you know better than the accumulated decades of experience that has already chimed in.

You tell her you want to meet her. Tell her your basic plan, not the "I want you to stay with me for a week" plan, the "we'll have dinner then go to my hotel" plan. Tell her you will be in town for a few days, maybe a week. If she agrees to the initial date, ask her how much she wants.

You don't know the market and you keep insisting on looking at it from a US standpoint. Which means you're practically guaranteed to pay a ridiculous price if you make an offer.

Here's the good part. Once she gives you a price, you can play it 3 ways.

1. Ask if the price includes taxi. If she says yes, offer 20% less. If she says no offer her 20 k more for taxi.

2. Tell her that you always pay 20% less. If she doesn't accept, offer her price but tell her it includes the taxi.

3. Ask her if the price is for toda la noche, all night. If not, you can either agree to her price, offer 20% less, or offer 20% more for all night.

Whichever way you go, after the first fuck decide if she's worth keeping all night. If you keep her all night, decide in the morning if you want to offer her the 1 week deal. A more than fair price for all night is around 400 k. If you want to give her more, offer it as a tip at the end.

Under no circumstances should you pay her until the agreed upon date (or night) is complete.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2789233]I think the fact that you are fluent Spanish speaking and are dating age appropriate women puts you in a different category than 90% of the Americans visiting Medellin.[/QUOTE]I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?

90% of americans vistiting? I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?

Are you saying most american visitors are old and don't speak spanish?

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2789357]I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?

90% of americans vistiting? I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?

Are you saying most american visitors are old and don't speak spanish?[/QUOTE]Not sure about "most american visitors" being old but personally I didn't consider paying for sex until the girls I wanted to fuck were less than half my age and it was the only way possible to fuck the same type girls I was fucking as a young guy. It does suprise me how many younger guys I see in Medellin and most probably looking for P4 P. Hell I'm in Pattaya now and it shocks me that in the best gogo most young asian guys appear to be about the same age as the girls dancing on stage. Not being judgemental but I just couldn't have imagined doing that myself. So yeah I'm guilty of often being in Medellin as an older guy haha.

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2789357]I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?
I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?
[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think most of us here are in our mid-30's and fluent in Spanish. That's what I tell all the girls.

I can't pretend to have any interest in the demographics of this web site's membership. Nonetheless, it is a very frequent discussion topic.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2789416]Yeah, I think most of us here are in our mid-30's and fluent in Spanish. That's what I tell all the girls.[/QUOTE]

Tostao disappeared not long before the latest barrier project. Since then, a new 5,000 peso store that sells Chinese made plastic goods took over one of the storefronts across from Premium Plaza. The official word from City Hall is the barrier is supposed to be in place 45 days or more. I think that leaves about three weeks until the end of the 45 day period. Personally I don't see why this one will be any more sustainable than the previous iterations. This week I noticed some of the regulars inside the barrier but dressed in civilian clothing. I assume that is a ploy to gain admission and ply their trade as before. A girl I know who used to work the sculptures complained to me that there are "a lot of women" concentrated along the glass walkway side of the church and behind it. The concentration of cart vendors beneath the metro viaduct and in areas outside the barrier is overwhelming. They and their bluetooth public address systems should never have been allowed in the plaza in my opinion. I agree the low end fast food joints and the short time hotels inside the barrier have to be hurting.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2789283]It will be interesting to see how long the barricading of ground zero will be in effect for since initiated. Almost a ghost town albeit a few scattered walkers inside the barricaded areas with everyone on the other side of the barricades and the glass covered walkway area is very crowded.

Kind of surreal walking inside of the barricaded area and not seeing walkers all over the place and the business's inside are getting hammered with hardly any foot traffic passing thru. And although getting access into the area thru the manned police entrances may entail being searched, you can enter the area thru the complex adjacent to the Metro without being searched. And business at the short time hotels like Premium Plaza has to be way down along with all the eateries having way less customers..[/QUOTE]

I included the story about the 21-year-old law student girl I met who was dating a 50-year-old gringo because those sorts of age gaps in dating aren't that uncommon either. Speaking the language will help a lot, though I've had a couple of nonpros who were ready to play the translator game with me before they knew I spoke Spanish. My point is you'd be surprised at what is possible in Medellin and you might be holding yourself back. I'm still modifying my approach as I come back and learn more.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2789233]I think the fact that you are fluent Spanish speaking and are dating age appropriate women puts you in a different category than 90% of the Americans visiting Medellin.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Recondite;2789219]This last time I was in Medellin I went on a date with a 21-year-old law student .... who spoke fluent English.[/QUOTE]Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?

[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2789357]I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?

90% of americans vistiting? I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?

Are you saying most american visitors are old and don't speak spanish?[/QUOTE]I'd say that's about 1/3 of the forum.

I've found the following rough groups:

1) Retired 60+ gringos w / pension or steady retirement income (live in country, or take longer trips, basic Spanish, often stick to 1-3 'regulars'.

2) 30-45 year olds that are still working (do 5-10 day trips, often divorced, conversational Spanish fluency, split of guys who travel solo and those that travel in groups on guy trips, try to fit in as many girls as possible. Used to go to Brazil, Costa Rica, or DR).

3) < 30 year olds that are digital nomads (live in country due to low COL, building a business or side hustle, often fully fluent or have parents that were native, trying to get local girlfriend but enjoy the P4 P opportunities).

Outside of those buckets I meet the occasional one-offs that are married to a Colombian or are ex-military, retired early, and exploring.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2789487]Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?[/QUOTE]So why not learn Spanish? When I was interested to have proper conversations with people in various countries, I learned their languages.

How many board members are there and how many of us have you met?

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2789498]I'd say that's about 1/3 of the forum.

I've found the following rough groups:

1) Retired 60+ gringos w / pension or steady retirement income (live in country, or take longer trips, basic Spanish, often stick to 1-3 'regulars'.

2) 30-45 year olds that are still working (do 5-10 day trips, often divorced, conversational Spanish fluency, split of guys who travel solo and those that travel in groups on guy trips, try to fit in as many girls as possible. Used to go to Brazil, Costa Rica, or DR).

3) < 30 year olds that are digital nomads (live in country due to low COL, building a business or side hustle, often fully fluent or have parents that were native, trying to get local girlfriend but enjoy the P4 P opportunities).

Outside of those buckets I meet the occasional one-offs that are married to a Colombian or are ex-military, retired early, and exploring.[/QUOTE]

There are quite a few of them behind the check in counters in the airport and hotel reception desks.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2789487]Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?[/QUOTE]

I found her on Facebook. Just luck of the draw in terms of who I friended and who friended me and who I was chatting with. She peaked my interest when she told me she lived in Laureles and was studying law. I always like to ask what barrios they are from and their jobs / studies.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2789487]Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?[/QUOTE]

How do I go about finding MDE girls on facebook? Does anyone have links to profiles which have more female MDE friends listed?