American Politics

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2652733]1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.[/QUOTE]I agree with Canada and I am a registered democrat. Democrats, independents and Republicans don't agree with the socialists, communists or whatever you call yourselves. Fake news, wokeness, racist and lies define the socialists on this site. Americans are tired of socialists like you. Americans know the pitfalls of socialism and what it has done to other countries. Stop hating America.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2652733]1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.[/QUOTE]If one goes back 4 to 5 years and looks at every post from [B]every rightwingnut[/B] who has posted on this board, at least one of these 5 items is used in their response.

They get these tactics from the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, who got it from the fascist dictator who ran Germany 80-some-odd years ago. So the tactics aren't new by any means. What is really scary is that the fascists who post here don't recognize the tactics. Anyone who went to school past grade school was taught that these things happened.

The one-term, twice-impeached former guy (and our current crop of fascist representatives and fascist posters) also use some other tactics common to what was used in Germany. 1. Always deny that you said it or did it, even though there is a video or audio record of you saying it or doing it. Keep denying until it is no longer newsworthy; 2. Move the goal posts when you get backed into a corner. This is especially important as it gives you time to dream up another lie; 3. Always attack; 4. Always belittle. Use derisive nicknames if possible because people with a low IQ will think it is funny, and, most importantly, 5. Keep repeating the lie until it becomes acceptable. It doesn't make any difference if it is a small lie or a whopper. In fact, the bigger the lie, the louder and longer you must yell. Eventually the sheep will believe anything.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2652746]If one goes back 4 to 5 years and looks at every post from [B]every rightwingnut[/B] who has posted on this board, at least one of these 5 items is used in their response.

They get these tactics from the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, who got it from the fascist dictator who ran Germany 80-some-odd years ago. So the tactics aren't new by any means. What is really scary is that the fascists who post here don't recognize the tactics. Anyone who went to school past grade school was taught that these things happened.

The one-term, twice-impeached former guy (and our current crop of fascist representatives and fascist posters) also use some other tactics common to what was used in Germany. 1. Always deny that you said it or did it, even though there is a video or audio record of you saying it or doing it. Keep denying until it is no longer newsworthy; 2. Move the goal posts when you get backed into a corner. This is especially important as it gives you time to dream up another lie; 3. Always attack; 4. Always belittle. Use derisive nicknames if possible because people with a low IQ will think it is funny, and, most importantly, 5. Keep repeating the lie until it becomes acceptable. It doesn't make any difference if it is a small lie or a whopper. In fact, the bigger the lie, the louder and longer you must yell. Eventually the sheep will believe anything.[/QUOTE]Yep! Anyone who wants the "proof" of Trump's lack of originality in his "fake news" shtick can simply google "Lügenpresse". The Nazis were extremely proficient in that technique, and even they were hardly the first.

And Trump's disciples parroting that ridiculous, discredited slogan every time they have a chance -- what an embarrassment!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2652803]Yep! Anyone who wants the "proof" of Trump's lack of originality in his "fake news" shtick can simply google "Lgenpresse". The Nazis were extremely proficient in that technique, and even they were hardly the first.

And Trump's disciples parroting that ridiculous, discredited slogan every time they have a chance -- what an embarrassment![/QUOTE]It is the year 2022 Biden is an incompetent president. Realists talk Biden. Socialists talk about Trump. Yes we all agree things would be better if Trump was president and you keep reminding us. You are in fantasyland and can't accept the reality of the Biden presidency. Ignoring it won't make Biden go away.

Four new subpoenas went out today from the January 6th insurrection investigative committee.

Subpoenas were served today on Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, Boris Epshtevn and Rudolph Giuliani.

"the four individuals we've subpoenaed today advanced unsupported theories about election fraud, pushed efforts to overturn the election results, or were in direct contact with the former President about attempts to stop the counting of electoral votes. " - Chairman Bernie Thompson of Massachusetts.

[QUOTE=Canada;2652632]Everything you said is true but you made a mistake. You were talking about the democrats and Biden. Are you still glowing about Biden and the stock market down 4% already this year? Biden inflation is affecting the market not just the poor. And Biden policies driving oil prices and oil stocks higher. Oil at $88 a barrel double what it was under Trump administration. America is waking up. They see the mess Biden got us into. Only the fools avoid talking about it. The fools still want to talk about the past because the future is looking grim.[/QUOTE]Wow. Now you're beaten down to the "I know you are but what am I?" argument level.

There is no history of Dems producing and presiding over the half dozen or so major economic downturns of the past century, only Repubs. There is no history of Repubs producing and presiding over the half dozen or so major economic expansions of the past century, only Dems.

I think your response is the most convincing evidence yet that the wingers' political party preference is more about stupidity and incompetence rather than intention when it comes to the Repubs' consistent economic failures.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2652729]Further proof Biden has created zero jobs in a year. Only four states are back to employment levels pre pandemic when Trump was president. Biden needs 5 million more jobs created to get to Trump record employment numbers.

Texas has bounced back after two years of pandemic-related unemployment spikes and is currently outperforming its pre-COVID-19 levels of unemployment.

Arizona, Utah and Idaho are the only other three states to regain all the jobs lost to the pandemic, The Wall Street Journal noted Tuesday.

New York, on other hand, is lagging far behind the Lone Star State. New York State Budget Director told reporters on Tuesday that the state has recovered less than two-thirds of the jobs lost due to the pandemic. The economy is still 5 million jobs under the peak reached before the pandemic, according to Forbes.[/QUOTE]I posted this link for the official source of Jobs Created vs Jobs Lost before to substantiate the Jobs Created under Biden but will post it again:

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/home.htm?view_full[/URL]

The United States Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't count "people who returned to work after calling in sick" as an added job.

All Great Repub Crashes that wipe out millions of jobs, as Trump's did, are counted as jobs lost. All Great Dem Recoveries and Expansions that recover and create jobs, as Biden's is doing at a historic pace and level, are counted as jobs gained.

[QUOTE=Canada;2652707]Socialists mentality. People are leaving these states because they pay the highest wages and get the best returns on real estate. They don't leave because of the high taxes, high crime rates and woke democrat leadership. Makes sense to me. LOL.[/QUOTE]No, many wouldn't leave for any of those reasons. The states that pay the highest wages, mostly blue states and cities are not coincidentally also the states and cities with the highest real estate costs and values.

Anyone whose mortgage was paid off on that high ticket real estate thanks to their higher incomes over decades are sitting on a relative gold mine at retirement. They could relocate to any pissant red state, buy outright for cash and play on the internet from now on if they want.

Oh, and thanks solely to Clinton and the Dems in Congress but zero thanks to even one Repub, a married filing jointly retired couple would pocket the first $500,000 in equity on the sale of their primary residence 100% tax free.

Yep, just another example of a truly meaningful, positive life-altering tax cut enacted by Dems and not Repubs whose only tax cuts are a joke by comparison. And a sick joke at that considering every time Repubs enact their disproportionately high tax cuts for the already wealthy it comes at the price of another Great Repub Crash, Plunging Property Values and Massive Jobs Destruction.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2652736]I agree with Canada and I am a registered democrat. Democrats, independents and Republicans don't agree with the socialists, communists or whatever you call yourselves. Fake news, wokeness, racist and lies define the socialists on this site. Americans are tired of socialists like you. Americans know the pitfalls of socialism and what it has done to other countries. Stop hating America.[/QUOTE]"Woke." The favorite fascist label. It means "Here is somebody who is educated and can think for themselves. I hate them because I am uneducated and I know that Tucker "Nobody in their right mind can believe anything I say" Carlson is right all the time."

The only people who hate America are supporters on the one-term, twice-impeached former guy. In other words, fascists.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2652729]Further proof Biden has created zero jobs in a year. Only four states are back to employment levels pre pandemic when Trump was president. Biden needs 5 million more jobs created to get to Trump record employment numbers.

Texas has bounced back after two years of pandemic-related unemployment spikes and is currently outperforming its pre-COVID-19 levels of unemployment.

Arizona, Utah and Idaho are the only other three states to regain all the jobs lost to the pandemic, The Wall Street Journal noted Tuesday.

New York, on other hand, is lagging far behind the Lone Star State. New York State Budget Director told reporters on Tuesday that the state has recovered less than two-thirds of the jobs lost due to the pandemic. The economy is still 5 million jobs under the peak reached before the pandemic, according to Forbes.[/QUOTE]If Biden hasn't created any jobs (your words from above), then how are Texas, Arizona, Utah and Idaho back at full employment? Are you suggesting that everybody in those states who wasn't working during the pandemic magically went back to their old job? Because the Texas Tribune says that your contention is, as usual, horse hockey.

[URL]https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-unemployment/[/URL]

Furthermore, your contention that only 4 states have recovered all of their jobs is, again, false. "Fourteen states have fully recovered jobs lost since the beginning of the pandemic and have jobs numbers higher than they did in February 2020. On average, the USA Is 3% below pre-pandemic employment levels, with Hawaii and Nevada still missing 9% of jobs.

Blue states grew jobs 37% faster than red states as of July 2021. When vaccines became widely available from April to July, blue states increased their jobs twice as quickly as red states. " [URL]https://www.moneygeek.com/coronavirus/states-most-jobs-lost-coronavirus/[/URL].

You cultists can't seem to help yourself. You lie when it is easier to tell the truth. Do you think that you can just spout BS that nobody else will check? You and the rest of the fascists might believe everything that Tucker "Nobody in their right mind would believe anything I say" Carlson says. But when you let somebody else do your thinking for you, you forget that there are other people who can actually think for themselves.

You wingers are truly pathetic.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2652699]There is so much hyperbole and left wing exaggeration in your rant. You are the opposite of what an educated liberal is or once was. I asked before: do you have any idea what Liberalism stands for? The answer is, No you don't. The evidence is in all you posts on this forum. But unlike yourself, I have a life and therefore I do not have the time to go into every one of your ridiculous and unfounded accusations. I will just explain a few. Try to concentrate. And maybe take a Prozac before you read this.

1. "Woke". The favorite fascist label. It means "Here is somebody who is educated and can think for themselves. I hate them because I am uneducated and I know that Tucker "Nobody in their right mind can believe anything I say" Carlson is right all the time."

Where the fuck do find the BS to assume my education level? I most likely have far more education than you and I most likely received my education from better schools and universities than you as well. It also seems apparent that you watch Carlson a lot more than I. Why are so so fixated on this person? And why do you need to vilify people with whom you disagree politically by attempting to attach them to this person who may or may not deserve the vilification? This is an old Communist ploy.

2. "According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of speech" yet Repugs continually muzzle people who don't tow the party line (see Cheney, Liz).[/QUOTE]1. Woke is exactly what I say it is. Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it wrong.

2. Look up what the judge in Tucker Carlson's lawsuit said.

3. You are deflecting. Republicans don't support freedom of speech. See Cheney, Liz. And the fact that you brought up all lives matter shows that you are blind.

4. Republicans want to go back to when only white males could vote. You have no idea what voting rights are or what they mean. But sure, let's discuss the voting rights act anytime you want. Maybe you ought to read the act. The fact that you think that it guarantees that Democrats will always win shows that the former guy does your thinking for you because that's exactly what he said!

5. The fact that you edited my list proves you are a fascist. You hate America and any American who isn't white, straight, male or Christian.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2652803]Yep! Anyone who wants the "proof" of Trump's lack of originality in his "fake news" shtick can simply google "Lgenpresse". The Nazis were extremely proficient in that technique, and even they were hardly the first.

And Trump's disciples parroting that ridiculous, discredited slogan every time they have a chance -- what an embarrassment![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.aol.com/news/why-biden-presidential-reset-may-202448526.html[/URL]

Isn't this supposed to be a 3rd term for Barry Hussein?

Boy he picked a winner, his VP of 8 yrs.

He had the nomination handed to him in 2020.

All that for this? LOL.

How years has Joe been in Washington? 48?

I remember Trump saying during a debate in 2020.

He had done more in 47 mos than Biden did in 47 yrs.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2652734]Claiming that blacks and Hispanics are moving from California are deplorables because they want to get away from high taxes and crime. Racist and disgusting.[/QUOTE][B]Here is the post I commented upon:[/B] "The whole world knows the ratings are down. These liberal channels have lost significant amount of advertisers and viewers. It's a google away sir!

Red states are seeing more number of migrations from blue states. Wonder why? Political scenarios at the moment under Biden is just very bad. My family voted for Biden but never again will. This country is ruined in just one year. We don't USA to be like Canada or Australia. Those are the extreme senseless liberals. I want US to be sensible liberals. There is a huge difference."

[B]Here is my comment on the above post:[/B] "There are two (2) reasons for the internal migration.

One is that xenophobic uneducated wingers are moving from states with high populations of immigrants to low education states like Florida and Texas where they'll fit in better with their fellow deplorables.

The second reason is taxes. Wingers would rather move to a low tax state so that they can get freebies from the federal gummint. 'Cause that's what wingers do. They talk a good game but states with the largest influx of federal dollars are red.

But, if the wingers get their way and we have a national divorce, blue states can lower their tax base because they don't have to give back to the red states. We can then build a wall around the red states and let them rot."

[B]Here is what you responded:[/B] "Claiming that blacks and Hispanics are moving from California are deplorables because they want to get away from high taxes and crime. Racist and disgusting."

What is readily apparent in your post is that you can not read for comprehension. Nowhere in my post did I mention Blacks. Nowhere in my post did I mention Hispanics. But, like a good little winger, you ignored what I said and made up something. That's what is disgusting. Just like the former guy. Just like FUX "News."

If you can't respond on point, why respond at all?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2652837]If Biden hasn't created any jobs (your words from above), then how are Texas, Arizona, Utah and Idaho back at full employment? Are you suggesting that everybody in those states who wasn't working during the pandemic magically went back to their old job? Because the Texas Tribune says that your contention is, as usual, horse hockey.

[URL]https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-unemployment/[/URL]

Furthermore, your contention that only 4 states have recovered all of their jobs is, again, false. "Fourteen states have fully recovered jobs lost since the beginning of the pandemic and have jobs numbers higher than they did in February 2020. On average, the USA Is 3% below pre-pandemic employment levels, with Hawaii and Nevada still missing 9% of jobs.

Blue states grew jobs 37% faster than red states as of July 2021. When vaccines became widely available from April to July, blue states increased their jobs twice as quickly as red states. " [URL]https://www.moneygeek.com/coronavirus/states-most-jobs-lost-coronavirus/[/URL].

You cultists can't seem to help yourself. You lie when it is easier to tell the truth. Do you think that you can just spout BS that nobody else will check? You and the rest of the fascists might believe everything that Tucker "Nobody in their right mind would believe anything I say" Carlson says. But when you let somebody else do your thinking for you, you forget that there are other people who can actually think for themselves.[/QUOTE]I will try to explain this to you like I would to my grandchildren so that you can understand. Let's make it kindergarten simple. If there were 100 people working at their job before the pandemic and the business closed so none of them had a job. Then after pandemic the business reopened and the 100 people went back to work then no new jobs were created. It does not matter if the same people returned to the 100 jobs. The jobs were already there. Not rocket science.

[QUOTE=Canada;2652812]It is the year 2022 Biden is an incompetent president. Realists talk Biden. Socialists talk about Trump. Yes we all agree things would be better if Trump was president and you keep reminding us. You are in fantasyland and can't accept the reality of the Biden presidency. Ignoring it won't make Biden go away.[/QUOTE]The reason wingers continually harp on Biden is because you want to turn the spotlight away from January 6th. Everybody in their right mind knows that January 6th was an attempted coup. Even Republican legislators admitted as much during the first week-or-so after the insurrection.

But, after pressure from Cheeto McBonespurs and his base, they changed their tune. Repubs are scared spitless of what the January 6th committee will uncover. Why else are most of Cheeto's henchmen refusing to honor subpoenas? Why else are most of them refusing to testify? After all, anybody can "take the 5th" during testimony. But most people, even Cheeto himself, views "taking the 5th" as admission of guilt. Hell, Cheeto even said as much. [URL]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-innocent-fifth-amendment/[/URL] And the last thing the fascists want is televised hearings where their refusal to answer even the simplest question is met by "I am invoking my 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination. "

Imagine this exchange:

Committee member: "Is your name Lindsay Graham?

Graham: "I am invoking my 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination."
Committee member: "Are you a US Senator?

Graham: "I am invoking my 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination."

Committee Member: "Did you say, on the floor of the Senate, that then-president Trump, bore responsibility for the events on January 6th?

Graham: "I am invoking my 5th Amendment rights against self-incrimination."

So, fascists talk about Biden to distract from the January 6th insurrection and the investigation into it. Democrats talk about the one-term, twice-impeached former guy so that fascists know we're keeping the focus where it belongs. Democrats also talk about the former guy because he was a putz who thought that the US Army took over airports during the Revolutionary War and other jenius (mis-spelling intentional) remarks like that.

If, by some miracle, the former guy wins again, expect America to look and feel a lot different. Sort of like Germany in the 30's and 40's. Only worse.