Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=JayWonEm;3013303]After a few months of reading this forum and sitting on the fence, I finally made the decision to come out. I am over 70, in southern Florida, with plenty of short, affordable flights to Colombia, so I needed a shove to get off my ass for an 11 time zone trip. As it happens, I will be in SF for the Dead & Co. Golden Gate shows 8/1-3 with my SA girl, her Spearmint Rhino stripper friend, and more psychedelics than can possibly be healthy for a man my age. I will keep on going to Bangkok, returning in about 3 weeks, with a couple of days in Tokyo in each direction. I put it together as 3 r/t flights (MIA-SFO, SFO-NRT, NRT-BKK), all non-stop, for around $1600 total airfare. When I looked at the logistics, price, and the fact that I was already going to be in SF, I couldn't pass it up. Got to do as much as I can while I still can.

I have a friend here who lived there and has encouraged me to go, and who has offered to set me up with a local contact. We didn't explicitly talk about girls, but I am pretty sure we are on the same page. He suggested an AirBNB as a base of operations, and just take an overnight bag for any side trips (definitely Angor Wat, possibly Pattaya and/or Phuket). I plan on bringing a number of women back over the course of the trip, so would welcome thoughts on AirBNB vs. Hotels. I want something somewhere between "clean and comfortable" and "affordably luxurious".

I think there is more than enough information about hobbying options, pricing, and logistics. I am likely to mix it up between blowjob bars, massage parlors, freelancers, and maybe a go-go girl. I like to repeat if I find a girl I like and get along with, but that is more likely if we can communicate without Google Translate. Can someone give me an estimate of the percentage of girls who speak "transactional" English and the percentage that speak "conversational" English? I'm not looking for Socratic dialogues, but I would like to find a girl I can talk to a little bit at dinner without Google Translate.

I already downloaded the Line app, which apparently is essential for texting. I have the TDAC form and from comparable experience in Colombia I know better than to use any of the "Sponsored" sites which charge you to enter the same information that is on the free form. My phone plan should be fine, I assume I can use ATMs as needed (decline conversion, of course), I have electrical converters, I have downloaded Thai on Google Translate so I can use it offline. Anything other apps or logistical arrangements specific to Thailand?

I am also curious about the recent changes in cannabis regulations. I figured most stores would have a workaround like Nyezhof mentioned, but if anyone has current info I would appreciate it.

Looking forward to some completely new experiences.

J1 M.[/QUOTE]Grab App, if you don't already have it.

Surf ThaiFriendly, Smooci and MR.

On funds. Make sure your bills are crisp and not damaged, 100.00 bills gets a better exchange rate. Do Not Exchange Dollars at the Airport. Expect ATM charges of 220 Baht per transaction, unless your bank specifically refunds these charges. I use AMEX, as the charge per transaction is only 50 Baht.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;3013294]I prefer Patpong to the madness of Suk / Nana / Cowboy. It's just more chilled. Sure, as a non-Asian punter walking down Thaniya you get some pretty odd looks like "what are you doing here". But you just brazen it out, go to the mamasans or papasans at some of the fabulous KTVs with the rows of girls outsides in costumes, ask the prices and make your selection (s). Once they realise that you might have a few bhat to spend, are not baulking at the (reasonable) prices, they are fine. Some of the girls look a bit sceptical but I've never had one refuse to be selected. If you are there for a few nights they start to recognise you as a reliable returning punter and you are welcomed not only by the same bar but by the others as somehow the jungle drums seem to beat along Thaniya that you are a good punter.

The Silom area, for me, is head and shoulders above the mayhem of Sukhumvit. Lumpini is great in the daytime, there are lots of good massage places, it's easy getting Bolts or even Tuks and the traffic is not crazy. BTS available and quite apart from Thaniya some of the side roads have reasonable options. If you're a gogo fan (I'm not particularly) you've got Kings Castle I and II and Radio City. The Irish bar has a great band. I could go on. I won't. I just prefer it. If I'm in BKK for say 7 nights I'll do 2 only at Skyview on Suk 24 for the Alley / massage / soapies. I might still venture to Nana or Cowboy for a walk around but for me it is akin to Walking St in Pattaya. Go see, enjoy some sights but you are unlikely to get drawn and have much better service options in Patong, Thaniya, Suk 24.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the thoughtful response. Interesting difference of opinion between you and Nyezhov. I suppose at the end of the day is may just be a matter of preference.

Quick follow up question: what is the setup at those establishments on Thaniya? I've walked the street before and it's a cool area that gives me Japanese vibes. But most of my time and $ has been spent at the nearby patpong gogos. You mentioned they have KTVs. How is a KTV really any different from a gogo bar? How do the prices compare? How do the girls compare? They have any other worthwhile options on Thaniya besides KTV? I am after the hot young pussy, college girls basically. Patpong gogos have been pretty good for that so far.

BTW I definitely noticed the phenomenon you described where, over the course of a few nights, all the bars seemingly welcomed me. There were a few bars where I walked in for first time but it felt like they already knew me and were giving me the VIP. I assume these places all share info on the customers. The popular incall agencies in NYC to do the same thing.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;3013294]I prefer Patpong to the madness of Suk / Nana / Cowboy. It's just more chilled. Sure, as a non-Asian punter walking down Thaniya you get some pretty odd looks like "what are you doing here". But you just brazen it out, go to the mamasans or papasans at some of the fabulous KTVs with the rows of girls outsides in costumes, ask the prices and make your selection (s). Once they realise that you might have a few bhat to spend, are not baulking at the (reasonable) prices, they are fine. Some of the girls look a bit sceptical but I've never had one refuse to be selected. If you are there for a few nights they start to recognise you as a reliable returning punter and you are welcomed not only by the same bar but by the others as somehow the jungle drums seem to beat along Thaniya that you are a good punter.

The Silom area, for me, is head and shoulders above the mayhem of Sukhumvit. Lumpini is great in the daytime, there are lots of good massage places, it's easy getting Bolts or even Tuks and the traffic is not crazy. BTS available and quite apart from Thaniya some of the side roads have reasonable options. If you're a gogo fan (I'm not particularly) you've got Kings Castle I and II and Radio City. The Irish bar has a great band. I could go on. I won't. I just prefer it. If I'm in BKK for say 7 nights I'll do 2 only at Skyview on Suk 24 for the Alley / massage / soapies..[/QUOTE]Shit let me get those Suk 24 massage / soapie recs too. I'm here until Friday. Been focusing on gogos so far but going to force myself to hit a few soapies before I leave. Last time I tried la belle and Dozo. Both seemed pretty good. Most important thing for me is the quality of the girls, I. E. Youth and beauty. Thanks.

Hello friends,

Yesterday night was my first night in Bangkok and was strolling around Thermae cafe.

Two girls around 25 year age caught my attention were standing infront of Thermae. Had a little chit chat with them. They quoted 8 K for LT.

Got shocked with the rate and asked to lower but the girls don't agree.

So left the scene.

Are these regular rate here. Even pattaya not cost this much.

Regards.

Viv.

First of all: girls outside Thermae are not biological girls. They are Lady Boy. If you like LB is ok, otherwise not really.

In Thermae entrance for girls are free, but staff check if they are really girls with ID card. So Lady Boy stay out.

About price, I think 8 k LT now can be normal in Bangko, if you found a LT.

Inside Thermae girls now use to ask 4 k for short time, that is very short. Maximum 1 hour from the time in Thermae, plus in the room after the shot if the hour is not left.

Girls would live all the same. To back to Thermae for another client.

So simply ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Vivphab;3013400]Hello friends,

Yesterday night was my first night in Bangkok and was strolling around Thermae cafe.

Two girls around 25 year age caught my attention were standing infront of Thermae. Had a little chit chat with them. They quoted 8 K for LT.

Got shocked with the rate and asked to lower but the girls don't agree.

So left the scene.

Are these regular rate here. Even pattaya not cost this much.

Regards.

Viv.[/QUOTE]

Gio's comments are mostly true. Not all the girls outside LB but a good majority. I've seen ladies inside sometimes waiting outside, maybe waiting for friends to go in together or got banned for a bit for doing something shady. A lot of them I feel don't get a customer every night so maybe they don't feel its worth the fee to wait inside. Heard other say you can complain to Thermae about them but not sure if they do actually ban or anything.

The ladies do not get in for free, they pay like a 40 baht fee IIRC. When they return they get a stamp on their hand so they don't have to pay the fee again. So if you don't want to be sloppy seconds check her hand first LOL. When I was there a few months ago I got quoted mostly 3 k but it depends their quote can vary depending on the customer. Like most people say they prefer asians but I've read some westerners have had luck getting the normal quotes. I've also got lucky and had a few stay longer than the hour for ST. Just all depends on the girl but his comments would apply for majority of the time.

[QUOTE=Vivphab;3013400]Hello friends,

Yesterday night was my first night in Bangkok and was strolling around Thermae cafe.

Two girls around 25 year age caught my attention were standing infront of Thermae. Had a little chit chat with them. They quoted 8 K for LT.

Got shocked with the rate and asked to lower but the girls don't agree.

So left the scene.

Are these regular rate here. Even pattaya not cost this much.

Regards.

Viv.[/QUOTE]Indians get quoted more, that's the way it is.

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;3013423]Gio's comments are mostly true. Not all the girls outside LB but a good majority. I've seen ladies inside sometimes waiting outside, maybe waiting for friends to go in together or got banned for a bit for doing something shady. A lot of them I feel don't get a customer every night so maybe they don't feel its worth the fee to wait inside. Heard other say you can complain to Thermae about them but not sure if they do actually ban or anything.

The ladies do not get in for free, they pay like a 40 baht fee IIRC. When they return they get a stamp on their hand so they don't have to pay the fee again. So if you don't want to be sloppy seconds check her hand first LOL. When I was there a few months ago I got quoted mostly 3 k but it depends their quote can vary depending on the customer. Like most people say they prefer asians but I've read some westerners have had luck getting the normal quotes. I've also got lucky and had a few stay longer than the hour for ST. Just all depends on the girl but his comments would apply for majority of the time.[/QUOTE]Ladyboys usually line up closer to the street, the girls on the short rail near the entrance are mixed girls and LB.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3013417]First of all: girls outside Thermae are not biological girls. They are Lady Boy. If you like LB is ok, otherwise not really.

In Thermae entrance for girls are free, but staff check if they are really girls with ID card. So Lady Boy stay out.

About price, I think 8 k LT now can be normal in Bangko, if you found a LT.

Inside Thermae girls now use to ask 4 k for short time, that is very short. Maximum 1 hour from the time in Thermae, plus in the room after the shot if the hour is not left.

Girls would live all the same. To back to Thermae for another client.

So simply ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I lucked out and found a real nice one outside Thermae over a year ago. Perfect body: DD cups and flat belly on a small frame with nice little pussy. Not ugly, either. I think I paid 4 K for all night. I would pay anything to see her again but alas she was working to get a phone. I had to sneak pics of her because she didn't like to be photographed but OMG what a body!

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3013417]First of all: girls outside Thermae are not biological girls.[/QUOTE]Wrong!

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3013417]In Thermae entrance for girls are free[/QUOTE]Wrong!

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3013417]Inside Thermae girls now use to ask 4 k for short time[/QUOTE]Wrong Again! LOL. Don't sound like you've been anywhere near the Thermae. Going rate that most all quote has been 3 K with only a few exceptions.

I've been a few times recently and can confirm that your report maybe exaggerated. I've talk to Biological Women outside of Thermae. I'm just saying.

It's true that there are girls who will wait outside, mainly "runt of the litter" who tries to grab guys before they go inside. Regardless what guys say, it's ruthless for girls inside, there is a LOT of competition and guys openly treat them like a sack of meat.

I think also girl's price will vary depending not only on the customer (ethnicity, looks.) but also if you're the second or third of the night, or if she wasn't able to land a customer and really wanted to leave the "meat market" that is Thermae.

Seasoned girls will also know from experience how they "rank" among other girls and this will also influence their price (positive or negative).

I no longer go to Thermae, I prefer the more relaxed experience of massage places.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;3013417]First of all: girls outside Thermae are not biological girls. They are Lady Boy. If you like LB is ok, otherwise not really.

In Thermae entrance for girls are free, but staff check if they are really girls with ID card. So Lady Boy stay out.

About price, I think 8 k LT now can be normal in Bangko, if you found a LT.

Inside Thermae girls now use to ask 4 k for short time, that is very short. Maximum 1 hour from the time in Thermae, plus in the room after the shot if the hour is not left.

Girls would live all the same. To back to Thermae for another client.

So simply ridiculous.[/QUOTE]Was in Thermae less than 2 weeks ago, never quoted more than 3 k for ST (not less than 3 k either). Never any issue ever as a Westerner on any of my visits over 3-4 years now.

It's a lot more to do with you, your manner, personality, demeanor, behaviour etc than your nationality. If they quote you more, take the hint, they either a) don't want to go with you or b) they think you are a sucker with your cash.

I do use TF a lot more often now than going to Thermae, once again scored every time with TF. You always get out what you are willing to put in effort wise.

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;3013423]
The ladies do not get in for free, they pay like a 40 baht fee IIRC. When they return they get a stamp on their hand so they don't have to pay the fee again. So if you don't want to be sloppy seconds check her hand first LOL. [/QUOTE]It seems more logic to me that they get the stamp right away after paying the fee. Not when they return from a customer.
So this means they all have this stamp.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;3013534]It seems more logic to me that they get the stamp right away after paying the fee. Not when they return from a customer.
So this means they all have this stamp.[/QUOTE]Oh yea I meant to say they have a stamp so they can return w / out fee. IIRC the guy outside stamps them as they leave the first time. The ones I saw my last visit didn't come back so didn't see the stamping process.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;3013294]Sure, as a non-Asian punter walking down Thaniya you get some pretty odd looks like "what are you doing here". But you just brazen it out, go to the mamasans or papasans at some of the fabulous KTVs with the rows of girls outsides in costumes, ask the prices and make your selection (s).[/QUOTE]OK, can someone tell me a bit more about the KTVs? It seems like something that is more fun to do with a group. Or am I taking the karaoke part too seriously? Because I WILL sing LOL. What is the experience like, from start to finish?

Still going back to find the comments regarding blowjob bars. If I find a good one I may not leave.