Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=New Old Guy]There is no 3G in Thailand. A court has blocked the concession bidding by the the telecommunication authority (I would be digressing).

So whatever it is, 2 or 2.5, etc it's not 3G, that is still far away.[/QUOTE]
I've used it (on my iphone and 3G dongle). TrueMove has recently expanded coverage in Pattaya too. 3G is available because it's in a trial phase and I think the companies are going [url=http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/telecom/188585/cat-relents-on-private-firms-3g-plans]through CAT[/url] and even though there's been complaints, and no official bidding, the network continues to grow and I don't see it stopping.

TrueMove has had 3G up and running for over a year now and I've been using it. [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1073372&postcount=6118]You should click those links I posted[/url] and you'll see the coverage map, etc. AIS offers 3G in Chonburi and parts of BKK for a higher price and less area coverage (doesn't have coverage in Pattaya)
Link: [url]http://www.ais.co.th/mobileinternet/Network.html[/url]

Also they state on their site:
[url]http://www.truemove.com/en/service-3g-4.html[/url]
"TrueMove is currently operating a 3G service on the 850 MHz frequency on a non-commercial trial basis and is waiting for approval to launch the service on a commercial basis. An auction will also be held by the government in the near future of 3G licenses on the 2.1 GHz frequency. "

On a side note - I mentioned Hutch in a previous post. I went into the shop yesterday and asked if their white EVDO dongle works in BKK. They said yes and it works around the BTS line and confirmed Nana, but when I was there along the BTS line it didn't work.

Well so far, when I get to the hotel with the 2 companions that meet me at the airport, I did ST with one Tuk-ta one of the Kittens from Kitten Club. After that, showered up and wanted to check out Devils Den. There spoke to the guy running the place and filled me in on the deal here. I have a appointment with Gek and Bang in a couple of hours. Possibly looking for a religious experience. After talking to Devils Den manager, went to check out Champagne Agogo. BF a lady from there and she was very energetic (sorry don't remember name or number). We hit Lucifers, Angelwich and Misteys. Walking street is f'ing nuts.

Day 2 After waking up at 4pm mind you go for a 4th round with champagne girlie she takes off when I did some looking around as well as grab a bite at Beer Garden great food and place to meet. I do some bar hooping and scouting all the go-go's. Chatted up with Ao from Tiger. Very hot girl and talkative, but unfortunitely not possible to BF because she claims that her back was bothering her from an accident. Ok shit happens on to Baccara I go. Girls in here very hot in my opinion. Tried to chat up with a hot blonde girl, but she didn't seem interested so I just moved on to another joint. Interesting happens at next gogo, But I do not remember the name of the place. Later tonight I will walk by get the name. I have a warning for all of you.

Beaverhunter

As I am staying at the LK Renaissance I have to walk up and down Soi Diana, Last night I stopped into a bar I have visited before, they seem to have more women than last year and prices for drinks are very reasonable. The bar is called little Susies and is mainly frequented by Englishmen. Met a really friendly nymphomaniac called Cai, teeth like a race horse but attractive none the less, she told me in no uncertain terms if I bar fine her I have to fuck her 5 times during the night. A really nice girl who truly loves boom boom.

Had a great time with her and bar fined her again tonight, I know I will not make the 5 times but she really tries to help you.

Attitude 10/10
Performance 9/10
Looks 6/10
Pussy tightness 9/10
BJ 8/10

May the force be with you.

[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]....amazing that the NY Times cannot get a simple definition straight. That is a tuk-tuk not a "samlor".[/QUOTE]To be fair, the terms are often used pretty interchangeably. If it has three wheels it is, by definition, a samlor.

Anyhow most people in that part of Isaan would call that model a "Skylab".

Some sick bastard has just spoilt my fun, just had a jacuzzi with Cai. She said she could do with a quick trim, being the gent I am I pulled out my Braun rechargeable to mow the grass. She was terrified and wouldn't come anywhere near me, when I calmed her down she said it was shock machine!

Apparently a few weeks ago a guy came into the bar with what must have been one of the cheap stun guns they sell on beach road, he wanted somebody to try it out. I can imagine Cai would volunteer, any way she tried it out and is shit scared of anything that buzzes or is electric. I had to use a conventional razor on the landing strip. Never forget these girls are human beings, cattle prods are for cattle. I hope the sick bastard is not a subscriber to ISG.

May the force be with you.

On my maiden trip to Pattaya and LOS back i think in 2007 I stayed at secrets which was great. I think at that time it was new?

I visited the bar once but could never understand it. All the girls were in a corner with a bunch of guys. Nothing seemed to happen. It wasn't a go go, no mamasan. It looked like a bar for some chaste fun in Pattaya

I searched the forum and could not find any reviews on it.

What is it about/what is the rule here? Can you barfine? How does it work or is it all chaste as it looked to me in 2007?

[QUOTE=Must Stop][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me[/url]

Worth reading for those visiting thailand for the first time. A lot is a rehash of what people have already mentioned in the forum. Just look at the quotes on what they are saying.[/QUOTE]Money can't buy love but it can definitely rent pussy.

[QUOTE=Betong]To be fair, the terms are often used pretty interchangeably. If it has three wheels it is, by definition, a samlor.

Anyhow most people in that part of Isaan would call that model a "Skylab".[/QUOTE]Nope.

[url]http://www.3wheelers.com/tuktuk.html[/url]

[url]http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~dwa/Samlor1.html[/url]

There is much citation on this. "samlor" does mean 3 wheels. But in common usage. The use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle. Invented by Loean Pongsopha. Tuk-Tuk is the motor driven one.

But that is the Skylab indeed!

[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]the use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle....[/QUOTE]Or as a common abbreviation for สามล้อเครื่อง. If anyone wants to buy one, here's the website of one of the biggest manufacturers: [url]www.atipongmotor.com[/url]. (For the record they call it a สามล้อเครื่องสกายแลป or, on their English pages, 'Samlor Skylab'.) I especially like their newest model, the 'Obama USA'.

Can we now return to our regularly scheduled programming?

[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Outstanding! My plans exactly.[/QUOTE]
Oakwood (and others)

Please don't quote a entire humongous trip report just to make a one sentence comment. Actually, don't quote the whole thing for any reason.

No, I'm not the Administrator but it just makes sense.

[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]...but in common usage...the use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle....invented by Loean Pongsopha. Tuk-Tuk is the motor driven one...[/QUOTE]The "human powered tricycle" is nowadays called "samlor thip" ("สามล้อถีบ") and when Thai people say only "samlor", they actually refer to the "samlor kruang" ("สามล้อเครื่อง") most of the time ("kruang" specifies that there is an engine in this context).

It's a little bit like the term "guitar". Nowadays, if someone says that he or she plays guitar, many people would think that it's an electric guitar (by default), if nothing else is added. Guitarists would often have to specify that their instrument is an acoustic guitar when it is not an electric one.

Nowadays, when nothing else is added, a "samlor" is (by default, in Thai people's mind) the "samlor kruang", not the "samlor thip".

A tuk-tuk is a different vehicle, even if it has also three wheels, you can notice (among other differences) that those wheels are shorter and wider on a tuk-tuk (on a "samlor thip", the wheels are similar to those of a bicycle, and on a "samlor kruang", they are like those of a motorcycle).

The bar I ended up BF a girl was Living Dolls and the girls name is May. She has a small back tatoo as we as a tatoo and her left leg. Very thin girl. When BF her she informs me that she didn't know the BF price or a $ to charge me. So mamasan tells me 500 bht. and it's up to the girl about her price. This would be her first BF and all the girls and mamsan are happy for her. Anyway we agree to 1500 bht plus a tip if worthy of such. Long story short, what a pain in the ass. First she wouldn't shut the hell up about her family and life. Then back at the room she is very shy and nervous about sex being supposively her first BF. I get her relax and the her we go. She informs me that she never blew before and I am like wtf you kidding me. Ok we will work this it's like 4 am and I want to sleep. She tells me that she wants me to go all out on her and I do so without question for about 2 hours. Ok it's about 6 am and I want sleep, BUT she starts watching TV and calls her mom. I finally pass out maybe 7:30. At 9am, she wakes me shaking me saying she has to go and now. Now I am pissed and with pleasure agree that she must leave. I get dressed and throw her 1000 bht. With this she looks at me and is not happy. I told her look, you didn't want to suck. I am not getting a second hit at the puss and you kep me up all night with the tv and your phone calls. When I finally get to sleep you wake me up. So I said lets go and now. I led her down to the reception and basically throw her out the door.

Night 3 and tonight happens tomorrow

Beav.

woke up at around 5:30 in the morning and wanted something to eat. i headed out to see if any breakfast joints were open only to run smack dab in the middle of the marine club and other joints that were either closing or looked to me to still be in full swing. i felt kind of underdressed in my shorts and t-shirt but decided to check things out anyway. again noticed a lot of what i suppose was russian chicks, many i had seen hours earlier the previous evening out on walking street who were by now looking very much the worse for wear. i noticed one of them, cute youngish looking blonde, giving me the eye but she appeared to be with a group of other women who were on the receiving end of a tongue lashing by another older member of their group. her look said "get me out of here" but i declined. russian chicks aside, there were plenty of other girls still hanging out who mostly seemed to be hardcore partying, drunk as hell, and looking for business, company, or both. i got propositioned by six thai gals who were all pretty little' stunners but i really wasn't in the mood, just wanted to eat.

i asked a guy leaving a bar with a hottie where the nearest breakfast joint was; he didn't know so i asked him what was with all these hot chicks still hanging out this time of the morning. he told me that many were girls getting off of work from the go-go getting their drunk on and now really ready to party! in essence, their shift over at the go go where they presumably don't drink much, they really cut loose after work; sort of like nyc cops who work the night shift then hit the cop bar at 6am. so this is an f. y. i to ya'll; check out the after hours joints near soi's 12-13 up those little alleys off of walking street for some off duty go-go hotties. that is if you don't mind waiting until 5 or 6 in the morning. it's also loud, very loud, so caveat emptor (sp?).

got some subway and hit the rack and woke up around 4pm to oum calling me to see if i wanted to see her. it was raining like a mother**cker which meant i wasn't going out so i told her to get a taxi to bring her cute little ass on over and a half hour later she was in my suite, naked and practicing her sword-swallowing act on my johnson. for some reason i was not really in the mood for a regular screw but just wanted to blow in her mouth but she wasn't up for it. she got me almost to the point that i must have squirted a little because she abruptly stopped slob- bobbing, looked at me kind of weird, then took a quick swig of water and reached for a condom. i asked her if she got "some" in her mouth and if she was ok; she just replied that it tasted sweet and put the condom on me. it was kind of a boring go this round since i wasn't really into it; we started and finished in missionary and i could tell by the way she was looking at me (over already?) that she didn't get her nut. didn't really care since i'm the one paying so she pretty much just showered and left. but not before she made me promise to call her again tomorrow (500baht btw).

rain had stopped so i showered and hit the streets to see what else was available. not much on beach road, probably due to the earlier weather but for some reason i had a hankering for a decent bbbj to cim. called a buddy and he suggested the bar u, lick me or something like that on soi 6. kind of put me off since i didn't want to do the lady drink or bar fine think but after recalling some of the reports about how relatively inexpensive the soi 6 places are, decided to relent and check it out. quick baht bus to the 6 found the place and was immediately picked up by a sweet little tight body named nit who led me into the bar where i ordered a double gin and tonic from the world weary looking dude behind the bar. oh yea, while this was going on, nit was busy unzipping my shorts, reaching in and stroking jr all in front of the other customer at the bar and the bartender, each of which i suppose did not give two shits. i however wasn't cool so nit led me over to a darkened room off to the side behind some beads. we sat on the couch and she proceeded to continue her earlier ministrations. she didn't say much other than comments about how big my "little brother" was getting and i think was almost about to give me head right then and there but i stopped her and asked about short time and where to get some privacy. at first i though she said 1000 baht but i heard her wrong because when i said "what? " she explained 300 for the bar fine and 400 for the lady; 700 baht! what! really?! i asked her again for clarification and she repeated the same figures so i said wtf and went for it. then i thought more about it and my friend did tell me that the place was mainly for blowjobs so i guess that explains what i figure are lower prices.

anyway, went out the back and into another door that led to a very steep staircase that i sort of worried how nit would safely navigate in her porno/stripper high heels. we safely got to the top and into a modestly furnisher room; bed, towels, couple of pillows and a tv set. we got undressed and just the sight of her tight little naked body was almost enough to end if for me then and there! she took out some wet knaps and began cleaning little' man while at the same time licking and sucking my nipples. after about a minute of this i lie down on the bed and she got to work licking balls, ass, and sucking shaft. man oh man this girl knows what she is doing! she started kind of slow and increased her speed by gauging my reactions. she even tried to deep throat me to the hilt! she twisted her head back and forth on the head while using her hands to jerk the shaft; this was real porno sucking only minus all that bullshit spitting and gagging. after awhile she began moaning exxxstatically as if fellatio was the most wonderful thing she could be doing! i mean this girl really got into it! i was about to blow but wanted to try something first; asked her to stop for a minute and if we could try anal, she asked how much i'd give her for the ass and i told her another 400 for at least trying (not bragging when i say i have a biggun' and if she did manage to get it in, she'd be earning it and to be honest, i'd probably give her more).

i watch as she ky's first my now condom covered cock and then she flips over on all fours and lubes up her tight little rosebud of an asshole. she then takes hold of my dick then slowly backs her ass onto it, she takes a deep gasp as first the tip pushes its way in then lets out a yelp as the rest slowly follows. i have as yet to do anything on my own; at this point she is doing all the work. once i'm pretty all the way up her ass i begin a slow rhythmic pumping as she also pushes back. it was hot and tight and i had to spread her cheeks to see my johnson disappearing up her rectum because i couldn't believe she took it. she lay on her stomach and began sucking my fingers as i pounded her asshole. as good as it felt, i still for some reason wanted to finish with the cim so after a few more minutes i stopped, pulled out and told her what i wanted. she took the condom off wiped my dick off with another wet knap and recommenced her previous suck job. as can probably be guessed i didn't last too much longer and finally got my wish by blasting a right and proper full load into her mouth of which she did not miss a drop! she get sucking and stroking until she was sure i was spent then took my john thomson out of her mouth and before doing anything else, wiped me off. since i didn't see her spit it out yet, i was watching to see what she did with the cum. i'm still not sure because i asked her a question about something and first she began talking with her mouth full but then when we were getting ready to hit the shower, i noticed she was talking normally. i didn't see her spit it out nor anywhere she could have so i think she accidentally swallowed my load while trying to talk with it still in.

she washed me in the shower and remarkably enough, began sucking me again! i could not believe it and had to stop her, telling her that she was killing me and taking all my power. she tried it a couple of more times as we were getting dress and seemed to get a kick out of getting me hard again. of all the girls i've been with over here i have never met one as enthusiastic about bj's as this girl! anyway, i gave her a 600 baht tip since she swallowed and seemed to enjoy what she was doing, told her i'd see her again tomorrow then left.

i ended up hitting walking street from there since it is on the way back to my hotel and got caught in the rain. took shelter at one of the bars there and sat next to a white chick who was sitting alone. she was fairly attractive, 5, 2, probably mid 30's, nice figure, brunette with brown eyes. she was drinking what i guessed was a crème de menthe shot along with a beer so seeing an open, asked her what the green drink was. in a thick russian accent she replied "mint" and if i would like to try some? i told her she could keep hers since it was almost finished but i'd like to do another shot with her to which she agreed and i ordered up. after the shots she asked me what i was doing in thailand and i told her vacation, when asked her she said she was here on business. i then asked her what business she was in to which she looked at me and replied "fucking, dahlink". i jokingly then asked if she was buying or selling and that got a laugh. i told her i was interested in her business and how much an investment would be; 1500 baht for st.

now i really wasn't t that horny since blowing my load a half hour earlier but i never had any of these russian (or anything else but asian) in pattaya and something told me to give this a whirl. i agreed to her price, we get a moped taxi then head to my suite. get there and she wants to smoke first and have a drink so i fix us both some g&t's and she proceeds to tell me a little about herself; name's natalya, from kiev, has one daughter, been in thailand for two years. she bugs me about why i'm still single and paying for p**sy; i tell her i'm not really paying for the p**sy per se', but rather for the lady to kindly leave once i'm done with it. she laughs and we retire to the bedroom, she strips revealing a decent looking body; about a 7 i'd say.

we rub our naked bodies against each other then she pushes my head down between her legs for some daty action. i oblige but i have a two minute limit when i'm paying so when the time was up, suckled her teats before lying on my back with my willie pointing to the ceiling begging for some attention. she got the hint and began a decent bb bj but i guess she has the same two minute rule because she quickly finished then reached for the condom.

condom on and i started humping away. she was a good lay; loud and moaning things in russian, maybe cursing. she pushes me out and flips over on her hands and knees and we begin a vigorous and rough doggie style screw that brought her to orgasm and me to pain. i rolled her back over for missionary and begin a nice steady rhythm. after a few minutes i could feel climax approaching then she muttered something into my ear that i thought was "f*ck me". i didn't think much of it because she had said it already many times before but she repeated louder and what she actually said was "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me". i actually stopped humping and said "what, you want me to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you? " "yes, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me! " now i have no idea how, or desire to, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] anyone, willing or not, so i just winged it and talked dirty while banging her really hard. truth be told, she kind of put me off when she said that but i still managed to bust a nut by putting her legs over my shoulders and watching her eyes roll back into her head.

afterwards she started smoking again, i'm a non-smoker and the smell makes me sick, and was taking forever to leave. i really wanted her out of there since it was coming up on 04:30 and she was stinking up the joint with cig smoke so told her i was getting ready to sleep. she got the hint but wasn't too happy about being rushed. i told her that she was the one who said short time and that is all i wanted, i also reminded her about the earlier reason i told her about paying the ladies to leave, not stay. she actually laughed but got dressed and shortly left.. so i'm down a bit of baht today and had i stopped at just screwing oum i would have only spent 500.. i'm still a believer in popper's philosophy but my own particular quirks and cravings forced me to do otherwise. all in all and expensive day (3800 baht) given my original budgetary intent but no regrets due to the insinuating circumstances; rain, unexpected enthusiastic bbbj/cim/swallow, and unexpected russian chick.

I popped in there earlier to dodge the rain, have a drink and check the place out for a possible future stay but it seemed to me that except for the ladies at the door, most of the dancers there were ladyboys.

To each their own but they really should let people know if this is the case, especially since the banner ads on this site don't give any indication (I was hoping to see chicks like the one one in the advert pic). They should at least ask a customer's preference at the door; I ended up leaving without drinking anything after being surrounded and sat on by three katooeys.

Again; I have nothing against them or those that like em', I just don't get the whole assumption by them that just any straight man looking for girls is just going to say eff it and accept and desire them as women. Maybe they figure nothing ventured, nothing gained?

This conversation took place in a Pattaya bar with coyote dancers and hostesses. The characters are me (EP) and one of the dancers (D)

Scene: A bar I won't name, around 11 p.m. in the evening. I'm sitting in a corner, talking to several hostesses. During her off-stage time, D comes over uninvited and sits next to me.

D: I want you bar fine me tonight.

EP: That's a nice introduction. I'm happy to meet you, too.

D: What you say?

EP: I don't think I have met you before.

D: You talk to me two nights before.

EP: I don't think so.

D: You too drunk. Not remember.

EP: I wasn't drunk enough to not remember you.

D: You say hello, watch me dance.

EP: Oh, a one-word conversation.

D: What you say?

EP: We didn't talk long.

D: Not long, but you watch me dance.

EP: Did I like it?

D: Yes

EP: I'm glad you're so clear on the details of our relationship.

D: What you say?

EP: You remember many things I don't.

D: Never mind. I want you bar fine me.

EP: And how much do you want to stay overnight?

D: 5,000 baht.

EP: That's optimistic.

D: What you say?

EP: You are feeling lucky tonight. Are you joking?

D: You think I joking? I not joking.

EP: I don't think you are joking. (I then put on an exaggerated sad face)

D: (After a pause) Why sad?

EP: I don't think you like me.

D: Why you say that?

EP: Lady sometimes says silly money to make man go away if she not like him.

D: I like you.

EP: No, I go away now.

D: OK. 4,000 baht.

EP: Chek bin

D: ...For two ladies

EP: Two ladies???? What two ladies?

D: Me, friend (points to one of the hostesses)

EP: I don't see.

D: She there (pointing)

EP: I don't see

D: She THERE!

EP: (pretending I don't see) You are the only lady I see in this bar. (then a big smile)

D: Bakwahn!

EP: If my breath reeked of vinegar, you would still be the only lady for me in this bar, in all of Pattaya. (gesturing broadly)

D: What you say?

EP: If I had drunk a bottle of vinegar, you would still be the only lady for me.

D: What vinegar?

EP: Very sour, put on food, cannot have sweet mouth if drink.

D: You tingtong.

EP: But I have a good time.

D: (laughing) I tingtong too. I like tingtong man.

EP: Maybe I am not tingtong enough to bar fine you.

D: I want you bar fine me.

EP: And how much do you want to stay overnight?

D: You only want one lady?

EP: Yes, only you.

D: You bar fine many ladies before. Friend tell me you bar fine five one time. Why you Cheap Charlie tonight?

EP: (in a sterner tone) I am getting tired of this conversation.

D: OK, OK. (names a reasonable price)

EP: I'll think about it.

D: Why you think? You think too much! I only joking before.

EP: I worry it not be so good for me - you talk too many strange things.

D: I tingtong! (laughing) But it good for you.

EP: Maybe I am really tingtong, but OK, I do it.

And it was very good! She stayed with me for about a week.

I can't imagine the above conversation taking place anywhere but a bar in Thailand. It's one of the reasons I love my vacations in LOS.

This little episode also illustrates some advice I got all the way back in 1979: if the girl suggests an absurd price, it is her way of rejecting a customer without causing him to lose face. Instead of saying, "You're so repulsive I can't bring myself to fuck you even for money," she says "3,000 baht" (or 4,000 or 5,000, whatever). That way, the customer rejects her and no face is lost.

For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.

Evil